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2020-01-20 diana_coman whaack: is cl-irc that huge/gnarly that it's a huge project to look and find out how it handles those exact certain things that you don't know about but need? #ossasepia
2020-01-20 whaack diana_coman: my code and trinque's irclogger are clear to me. (btw trinque did you look into the reconnect bug I pointed out? I will confirm there's a problem and publish a vpatch for it later this week if I get the time.) how cl-irc handles certain things is a bit of a blackbox. #ossasepia
2020-01-20 whaack btw, i didn't implement the reconnect-on-kick feature intentionally. with cl-irc you set a nick to have a list of channels, and i found out cl-irc automatically rejoins the nick to a network when kicked. I will have to explicitly remove the channel from the nick's list when it gets kicked. #ossasepia
2020-01-20 whaack diana_coman: The query "select message, networkname from irclog where irc_message_type='CL-IRC:IRC-KICK-MESSAGE';" gave me the following results from vm1 http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=VvJp and from vm2 http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=Igiq #ossasepia
2020-01-13 snsabot Logged on 2020-01-13 21:54:40 Apocalyptic: asciilifeform, since you mentioned CL, I wanted to experiment with it in the past but could not emerge dev-lisp/clisp on gentoo. I ended up with a memory-related error and couldn't fix it, so dropped the matter #asciilifeform
2020-01-13 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-01-13#1005141 << afaik the only 2 reasonably-sane cl on pc are sbcl and ccl #asciilifeform
2020-01-13 Apocalyptic asciilifeform, since you mentioned CL, I wanted to experiment with it in the past but could not emerge dev-lisp/clisp on gentoo. I ended up with a memory-related error and couldn't fix it, so dropped the matter #asciilifeform
2020-01-13 asciilifeform dunno whether yer into CL, but there something very similar happened in '80s -- which is how the language ended up missing basic functionality like tcp/ip in its standard #asciilifeform
2020-01-12 asciilifeform Apocalyptic: i use (patched for keccakism) my orig. 'v.py' . the one linked from the articles, maintained by diana, orig. by mod6 also worx; shinohai is using a cl vtron by esthlos (rip) #asciilifeform
2019-12-31 whaack diana_coman: The work for that would be to setup ~10-20 proxy servers, and then find out how to set CL to route through different proxy servers on a per-thread basis. #ossasepia
2019-12-30 shinohai Will gladly modify cl-v to use this mechanism when battle-tested, etc. (As was mentioned previously, the verify portions are just gpg callouts, so should be trivial to implement). #asciilifeform
2019-12-30 whaack diana_coman: the discussion with trinque yesterday made me reevaluate my methodology with cl. cl+slime+emacs = the 'wonderful ability' to have a hotkey to take a function and put it inside the REPL so you can test it in isolation. but yesterday I bet I could point to hours lost 'masturbating' by firing off functions in the repl instead of reading my source and improving it #ossasepia
2019-12-30 ossabot Logged on 2019-12-30 03:48:02 whaack: diana_coman: EOD Report: Another long 12h+ grind on TheFleet that went into the night. I did my writing too but no Spanish. I can connect a fleet to small networks, but networks have a max-conn-per-host limit that when passed boots all my bots. So my max channels per ip is (max-conn-per-host * num-chans-per-nick) until I find some trick. Otherwise, I learned a bit about error handling and threading today in CL. I'll #ossasepia
2019-12-30 ossabot Logged on 2019-12-30 03:48:02 whaack: diana_coman: EOD Report: Another long 12h+ grind on TheFleet that went into the night. I did my writing too but no Spanish. I can connect a fleet to small networks, but networks have a max-conn-per-host limit that when passed boots all my bots. So my max channels per ip is (max-conn-per-host * num-chans-per-nick) until I find some trick. Otherwise, I learned a bit about error handling and threading today in CL. I'll #ossasepia
2019-12-30 whaack diana_coman: EOD Report: Another long 12h+ grind on TheFleet that went into the night. I did my writing too but no Spanish. I can connect a fleet to small networks, but networks have a max-conn-per-host limit that when passed boots all my bots. So my max channels per ip is (max-conn-per-host * num-chans-per-nick) until I find some trick. Otherwise, I learned a bit about error handling and threading today in CL. I'll publish the det #ossasepia
2019-12-29 whaack diana_coman: EOD Report: Not a successful day. I spent 4hr 15 min finishing my article, about 1hr on TheFleet (which was just reading CL notes) and then 1.5hr on the plan + review for this week. I surfed for 1hr for some exercise, I also had to do an operation to get the router hooked into my UPS when the power went out because my phone's backup internet ran out of data. (the router was previously placed in my landlord's home and I #ossasepia
2019-12-28 whaack asciilifeform: I am extending logbot which has reconnect logic, and also putting a restart mechanism in case one of the network's sends some message that makes cl-irc barf http://ztkfg.com/2019/12/thefleet-a-systematic-exploration-of-the-irc-space/?b=The+next+step+is+to+cre&e=they+sink#select #asciilifeform
2019-12-28 asciilifeform whaack: in all seriousness, this is good experiment ( tho you may want to add proper reconnect logic, which cl-irc off-the-shelf does not have ) #asciilifeform
2019-12-28 whaack dang, my alphabetical-order channel-grabber exhausted my cl's environment allocated memory at "ZwergenIRC" , so close! #ossasepia
2019-12-27 whaack diana_coman: noted. i'm running my code that iterates through all networks grabbing their channel list. there is a function grab-all-channels-for-network that takes a hostname port pair as a parameter. It is supposed to return a list of channels obtained from the server, but for various reasons it can fail. CL has a system similar to a "try / catch" block, except the "catch" can be a template with various options. when the operator #ossasepia
2019-12-27 diana_coman whaack: you'll have to keep me up to date on whatever CL does or does not do; I'm not all that into CL really (I enjoyed functional programming sometime ~15 years ago but even at that time it was more Scheme and Haskell than Lisp anyway); so make sure you communicate clearly on this, please. #ossasepia
2019-12-27 whaack diana_coman: I have the function that adds the list of all channels to each entry in the list above containing network names, hosts, and ports. however each network has a chance of failing for some reason or another. so it seems a perfect time to go through CL's famous restart system which i'm reading about here http://www.gigamonkeys.com/book/beyond-exception-handling-conditions-and-restarts.html #ossasepia
2019-12-27 whaack diana_coman: i got a channel list for freenode safe and sound in an sexpr via cl-irc, now to iterate through the other channels. First I need to get the list of all networks into an sexpr, then figure out how to connect to networks without registered nicks (logbot is config'd to require one), then I need to get as many chan lists for all of them as I did for freenode, then I need to see which networks failed to get a chan list (bec #ossasepia
2019-12-27 whaack but i believe i should have stuck with trying to do it with my bots, because even while stuck i'm gaining more familiarity with CL and the codebase i'll be using. I don't know if i'll benefit from learning a bit of about setting up scripts with irssi #ossasepia
2019-12-27 whaack diana_coman: yes it does but that command is in the cl-irc library.. and now I realize I should be searching for the /list command wrapper #ossasepia
2019-12-27 whaack diana_coman: the logbot doesn't have to issue commands. i tried for a second to have one of my bots issue the /list command and save the response, but i ran into a problem and then figured it would be easier to use irssi. but I have not had luck with irssi so I think I'm going to go back to using my bots + cl-irc, and anyways it will get me more familiar with the library. #ossasepia
2019-12-20 whaack want to read more about CL in general before I tackle it. I spent some time reading ircbot's source, I have a decent grasp of all its working - I can give it another read tomorrow/Saturday and then sign it and shortly after sign logbot as well. I dug into the cl-irc library it uses a bit, and started to read the rfc's for irc to get a better idea of the design of the system i'm exploring. Following thimbron's work I found the list #ossasepia
2019-12-14 trinque I don't think you expect to actually be yourselves patching acpica autoconf automake bash bc bison bzip2 cl-hyperspec clisp dash db flex gales-util gcc64 git gnupg less libevent libressl libusb links m4 man-pages man-pages-posix mandoc ncurses nginx ocaml openssh patch pciutils perl php56 py-setuptools python python-docs qmail readline redis sbcl sqlite sqlite-doc tmux ucspi-tcp vim xz zlib #trilema
2019-12-14 whaack trinque: Hey trinque. diana_coman has assigned me to go through your published sources. My background with CL is little and my knowledge of CLOS is ~nil, and I figure I should read about both in general before I embark on digesting your code. Do you have a recommendation as to where to start? Are the books that [http://blog.esthlos.com/towards-a-computer-science-education/ #trinque
2019-12-13 whaack t know it's worth figuring out what's wrong on my osx 10.9 as I should have my new computer anyways soon. Reading through trinque's code and playing around with it, I see there are a few topics I need to go over: CLOS, threading with CL and slime, and CL's exception handling tool/restarts. #ossasepia
2019-12-07 asciilifeform shinohai: afaik esthlos's vtron is still closest thing available to a working one in cl, but defo not complete. #asciilifeform
2019-11-28 asciilifeform shinohai: if you do it soon enuff, it'll be, afaik, the very 1st publication of a properly-working (i.e. w/out the oddball disconnect bugs) cl irc bot #asciilifeform
2019-11-03 * asciilifeform looking forward to working w/ cl proggy again. #asciilifeform
2019-11-01 ossabot (trilema) 2018-06-05 mircea_popescu: "thetarpit blog scaffolding is a few kLoC of CL, but lacks *any* editor-side interface" << understand something : i publish more than anyone, and by anyone we don't mean solo operators, we mean whole fucking outfits. there's a reason for this. the fact that trilema is comfortable to me provides those last edges of extra productivity and intellectual leverage that convert exceptional performance into mindblowing perfor #ossasepia
2019-10-27 whaack diana_coman: may i try to write it in CL? #ossasepia
2019-10-24 spyked http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-23#1947852 <-- quite. I did a search for cl jobs a coupla years ago and... derp (wtf, it took 10 mins to archive this) #trilema
2019-10-22 jfw of which, hmm, CL, Haskell, Mathematica (long ago), VB (likewise), x86/amd64 assembly, 6802 machine code. I'll not offend anyone by counting 'html' a prog lang #ossasepia
2019-10-13 whaack b.c. 1) it shows i've accomplished nothing 2) it is dishonest (most noteably i have proficient in CL) on it #ossasepia
2019-10-13 whaack also scheme, and i learned a bit of cl on my own #ossasepia
2019-10-04 bvt it's definitely not async, but it guess i'd have to find the thread where cl bot was discussed to see what the issue was #asciilifeform
2019-10-04 asciilifeform this is how the old cl bot sucked. #asciilifeform
2019-10-04 spyked http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/spyked/2019-10-03#1000297 <-- from http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-03#1939914 I gather that the problem might occur upstream in the socket implementation. still, asciilifeform's auto-reconnect pill seems to be the one that works best so far, so I'm prolly gonna post a cl ircbot version once I have some free hands (early next month, by the looks of it) #spyked
2019-10-04 snsabot Logged on 2019-10-03 12:46:59 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-03#1939710 << funnily enuff, the crypto-christians left behind in jp after missionaries expelled, mutated into such a bizarre fork chain that modern church does not recognize'em as anyffin at all ( they mutter unrecognizable chants , which at some pt in 17th c were latin , from phonetic crib sheets to this day... but elsewise resemble 'insular buddhist sect' very cl #trilema
2019-10-03 spyked if there's a fix for this, I'm contemplating using spykedbot's cl-irc/trilemabot instance as a logger backend for asciilifeform's logger, as there's still some relatively useful stuff there #spyked
2019-10-03 spyked hey trinque, iirc you solved this problem for cl-irc? if you post vpatch, I'ma defo use and sign #spyked
2019-10-02 lobbes In the meantime I stopped by spyked's castle to see if maybe he has a pill I'm not aware of for the cl-bot, since I'm pretty unversed in all things lisp #trilema
2019-10-02 asciilifeform lobbes: pretty neat. ( and you could prolly shorten it substantially by replacing the old cl bot with mine, but iirc you have a full plate w/ mp's wptronic item atm ) #trilema
2019-09-28 spyked if anyone wants to remove this or the cl-ppcre crap, will happily sign vpatch; thing was written in my "CL childhood" years, so it comes with quite a bit of kludge #trilema
2019-09-28 ossabot Logged on 2019-09-27 15:26:42 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-27#1938420 << spyked this is pretty interesting. is that a coupla 100kB of base64'd fontisms in there ? ( and, apparently buncha perl-genned ???! in 1 of the cl libs ?! ) #trilema
2019-09-27 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-27#1938420 << spyked this is pretty interesting. is that a coupla 100kB of base64'd fontisms in there ? ( and, apparently buncha perl-genned ???! in 1 of the cl libs ?! ) #trilema
2019-09-12 ossabot Logged on 2019-09-11 21:09:59 whaack: diana_coman: so my previous work is a just few qntra articles http://qntra.net/author/whaack/ . I started to do research on how many coins are in the segwit ecosystem but did not finish. http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-21#1741793 Stan mentioned from that thread that a sha256 in CL was needed, perhaps that is still an open task? http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-23#1742513 #ossasepia
2019-09-11 whaack diana_coman: so my previous work is a just few qntra articles http://qntra.net/author/whaack/ . I started to do research on how many coins are in the segwit ecosystem but did not finish. http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-21#1741793 Stan mentioned from that thread that a sha256 in CL was needed, perhaps that is still an open task? http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-23#1742513 #ossasepia
2019-09-09 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-09#1935119 << this is a deeper africanism than mircea_popescu suspects , and sadly not even limited to pythonisms. it comes from when hands grow out of arses, and folx write libs where the namespaces cannot be mixed, so yer stuck lib_a.foo lib_b.foo , cuz can't import a + b . seen it in adaisms , cl, elsewhere. #trilema
2019-09-07 asciilifeform re forth -- it's cemented in ANSI X3.215 (1994--current) (1st in 1980!), ISO/IEC 15145 (1997--current) . rather like ada, dead tree standard. and quite unlike e.g. python, php. ( and unlike cl , is actually possible to program in the lang as specified in the standard. ) #trilema
2019-09-07 snsabot Logged on 2019-09-06 21:23:35 trinque: I was by no means a lisp expert when I wrote the item, so in re: languages thread, I don't think it should reflect on CL #trilema
2019-09-06 trinque on the subj of CL webtrons, the approach I've used is to have the CL proggie write static html (from another place, even) to a toilet static www server. #trilema
2019-09-06 trinque (the various problems with it have been related to replication between pg instances, and not CL) #trilema
2019-09-06 trinque not even properly CL oopized. java-headed oop #trilema
2019-09-06 trinque I was by no means a lisp expert when I wrote the item, so in re: languages thread, I don't think it should reflect on CL #trilema
2019-09-06 asciilifeform apropos : http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934034 << this gripe is factual -- cl standard was written by 'tower of babel' and specifically excluded unix knobs. so all ~usable pc lisps in fact have nonstandard knobs for threads, sockets, etc. iirc this was detailed in prev. threads. #trilema
2019-09-06 spyked http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934029 <-- not sure thetarpit's current code is more than "php scripting in Lisp" either, it was written in my CL-noob years. the webpage generation bits are pretty nifty tho, on account of cl-who. #trilema
2019-09-06 spyked http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934030 <-- hm. who's that? can't seem to relate it to the subj. in any way (other than the post mentioning CL) #trilema
2019-09-06 mircea_popescu no, cl isn't the lang the fucktard knows best -- that's transparently excel/vb whatever. but whatevs. #trilema
2019-09-05 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: he does seem to have an almost-working (i.e. all but for comments) cl blogotron, unlike errybody else, tho. #trilema
2019-09-03 mircea_popescu i wasn't necessarily implying cl ; screen is iirc c #trilema
2019-09-03 spyked hm. would require doing tty stuff a la termios, and I expect (haven't looked, tho) the existing cl code for that is cffing to ncurses, which... ugh. #trilema
2019-09-03 spyked http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-02#1933263 <-- imo this oughta happen when irc bot returns from recv, a la http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-22#1930111 ; cl-irc oughta expose some event for when connection is abruptly ended, so that ircbot reconnects from there #trilema
2019-09-02 mircea_popescu not that i see the benefit of retargetting to say python or bash ; nor does it seem sensible to do php work in cl. but as a principle. #trilema
2019-08-29 asciilifeform even when i was sewing 'pehbot' , out of ben & trinque's cl logbot, found that it took substantial effort to get the req'd cl libs onto the box #trilema
2019-08-29 asciilifeform then thought 'cl', then noticed that will need 9000 unexplored (by asciilifeform) lib liquishits for pg, http, etc.; then 'fuck it, i'ma cut up phuctor and sew from its still-twitching living pieces' #trilema
2019-08-23 snsabot Logged on 2019-08-23 12:08:41 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-23#1930302 << i got distinct impression that trinque is ripping own hair out from grrr re bugs in the (quite gnarly, i think was written in n00b yrs) cl bot #trilema
2019-08-23 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-23#1930317 << this is The Right Thing (it dun need 'latency measurer' or any of that!) but only ~half~ . rip out the cl-irc thing. #trilema
2019-08-23 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i think trinque & ben also walked in with this, given as they used a heathen 'cl-irc' lib for some reason (thinking, i suspect, 'irc, grrr, gnarly to implement' ) #trilema
2019-08-23 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-23#1930302 << i got distinct impression that trinque is ripping own hair out from grrr re bugs in the (quite gnarly, i think was written in n00b yrs) cl bot #trilema
2019-08-22 asciilifeform trinque: i may be able to help w / bot ( would like a working cl bot at any rate ). how current is the published src ( that i used in pehbot ) ? #trilema
2019-08-20 trinque asciilifeform: not even just here; I wrote some production services elsewhere in sbcl, used cl+ssl as dep, same wedging #trilema
2019-08-16 snsabot Logged on 2019-08-16 20:56:57 trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-11#1927727 << precisely right. what wedges, from my investigation here and elsewhere, is the seam between cl+ssl and openssl. #trilema
2019-08-16 trinque http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-11#1927727 << precisely right. what wedges, from my investigation here and elsewhere, is the seam between cl+ssl and openssl. #trilema
2019-08-16 phf http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-16#1929100 << particular utf-8 otherwise latin-1 trick also exists in cl-irc for example (i believe the python irc logger i looked at long time ago also had it), so log messages that a111 gets are already converted in this way. #trilema
2019-08-14 * asciilifeform actually posted working coad for n-w . but, naturally, in CL.. #trilema
2019-08-14 mp_en_viaje if you're not spitting out the filesystem, and don't need apache to run the infrastructure of whatever scripting language for you (ie, use python's native interpreter, or cl, bash w/e, rather than php) then you don't, strictly speaking, need it. #trilema
2019-08-14 asciilifeform (i suspect answer lies deep in the CL libs that he used tho, and not necessarily in head.) #trilema
2019-08-13 asciilifeform iirc phf struggled with something not unlike this, when wrote his CL proggy #trilema
2019-08-12 asciilifeform prolly will remain 'teletype' until make caching mechanism per mp_en_viaje's algo (or rewrite in cl) whichever comes 1st #trilema
2019-08-11 snsabot Logged on 2019-08-09 12:55:26 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1926731 << not quite. if snsabot were a cl proggy, i would not need to restart it and lose connection to do knob turn. #trilema
2019-08-10 asciilifeform diana_coman: 'flask' is the py people's equiv. of 'hunchentoot'. eats the @app.route('/log/<chan>/<date>') etc sugars , does the 'html madlibs' thing on the 'templates' (a la 'cl-who') etc #trilema
2019-08-09 snsabot Logged on 2019-08-09 05:37:33 spyked: mircea_popescu, re. tmsr lang: could be one of two or three (or I dunno how many) langs, as long as tmsr owns 'em. atm there's no genesis for a cl compiler/interpreter (let alone e.g. networking code a la usocket, or a curl etc.), so... inb4 "fuck you spyked, I can't even compile sbcl, how do you want me to stand up your logotron" #trilema
2019-08-09 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1927033 << item pretty clearly begs, screams, to be rewritten in cl. but nao it is written, genesis'd, can be ~rewritten~ . #trilema
2019-08-09 snsabot Logged on 2019-08-09 04:45:56 spyked: also, I guess there's also the fact that despite all its problems, there's a pile of CL code (e.g. hunchentoot, cl-irc) that works... very similarly to how wordpress does the job, despite its size and other warts. maybe Ada could also find similar pieces of code for Ada, but tbh I haven't looked... yet? #trilema
2019-08-09 bvt true, but i don't find '80% of cl argument' too convincing; if want comfort, sure, use cl/python; want hard memory limits and gcc performance, can use ada, it won't be fundamentally dirtier (due to tcp and db stuff), just more boilerplate code #trilema
2019-08-09 bvt i would actually expect that pg protocol does not use 0terminated strings. re 80% of CL -- inside of it's implementation you'd find same shit. dunno how it would be different from using heathen libs #trilema
2019-08-09 asciilifeform bvt: imho it's just barely usable, and would defo benefit from rewrite in compiled lang where can turn knobs in realtime (i.e. cl) #trilema
2019-08-09 snsabot Logged on 2019-08-09 05:39:17 spyked: ah. yeah, not sure there's such a thing. as asciilifeform pointed out, cl seems to handle string'isms better... and as mircea_popescu pointed out, cl doing tcpisms is not much different from python #trilema
2019-08-09 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1926731 << not quite. if snsabot were a cl proggy, i would not need to restart it and lose connection to do knob turn. #trilema
2019-08-09 snsabot Logged on 2019-08-09 04:45:56 spyked: also, I guess there's also the fact that despite all its problems, there's a pile of CL code (e.g. hunchentoot, cl-irc) that works... very similarly to how wordpress does the job, despite its size and other warts. maybe Ada could also find similar pieces of code for Ada, but tbh I haven't looked... yet? #trilema
2019-08-09 mircea_popescu high q multithreading is one of the few things cl has arguing for it #trilema
2019-08-09 spyked ah. yeah, not sure there's such a thing. as asciilifeform pointed out, cl seems to handle string'isms better... and as mircea_popescu pointed out, cl doing tcpisms is not much different from python #trilema
2019-08-09 spyked mircea_popescu, re. tmsr lang: could be one of two or three (or I dunno how many) langs, as long as tmsr owns 'em. atm there's no genesis for a cl compiler/interpreter (let alone e.g. networking code a la usocket, or a curl etc.), so... inb4 "fuck you spyked, I can't even compile sbcl, how do you want me to stand up your logotron" #trilema
2019-08-09 snsabot Logged on 2019-08-09 04:42:15 spyked: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-08#1926421 <-- fwiw I personally use CL because it's the lang that allows me to eat most coad/hr; although looking at the "cl on pc is a dead end" thread, I'd throw it away without any remorse were there a "tmsr lang" #trilema
2019-08-09 spyked also, I guess there's also the fact that despite all its problems, there's a pile of CL code (e.g. hunchentoot, cl-irc) that works... very similarly to how wordpress does the job, despite its size and other warts. maybe Ada could also find similar pieces of code for Ada, but tbh I haven't looked... yet? #trilema
2019-08-09 spyked http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-08#1926421 <-- fwiw I personally use CL because it's the lang that allows me to eat most coad/hr; although looking at the "cl on pc is a dead end" thread, I'd throw it away without any remorse were there a "tmsr lang" #trilema
2019-08-08 asciilifeform diana_coman: 1 reason to use cl, is that ~50x faster, vs pythonisms. and can use actual machine threads. #trilema
2019-08-08 asciilifeform diana_coman: possibly CL, after spyked genesis's his cleaned up hunchen #trilema
2019-08-01 mp_en_viaje i thought this required gnu cl #trilema
2019-08-01 asciilifeform mp_en_viaje: cl (aside from egregiously retarded incarnations, e.g. gnu's) aint interpreted, lol #trilema
2019-07-30 a111 Logged on 2015-05-21 09:12 gabriel_laddel: CL. Additionally, I want people who have no prior knowledge of computing to develop taste. Gedankenexperiment: spend 10k USD, purchase stock PCs, preload with something somewhat sane (Actually complete Masamune/bitcoin-assets distro) and distribute to a class of kids "learning to program". IMHO they'll play around with it, do their work and then p #trilema
2019-07-30 asciilifeform hrm, prolly oughta disambiguate the sentence -- 'some proggies' 'in nuffin-but-the-paper-standard cl' #trilema
2019-07-30 asciilifeform jurov: i've actually written battlefield proggies in nuffin but the paper-standard cl. but admittedly this is rare. #trilema
2019-07-29 spyked http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-27#1925131 <-- ok. as far as I can see, this means that genesizing a CLtron should be next thing on the list after current item; otherwise can't run *any* of this CL code. #trilema
2019-07-22 a111 Logged on 2019-07-11 16:19 lobbes_field: Relatedly, I'm thinking that once I produce the mod_lisp vpatch, I may just leave the rest of the cl-www project to spyked, while I instead work on a 'python/php www kit. #trilema
2019-07-22 a111 Logged on 2019-07-11 16:18 lobbes_field: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-11#1922319 << currently there exists no logotron web publishing glue. spyked is currently making headway on the 'cl-www kit' tho >> http://www.thetarpit.org/posts/y05/095-cl-who-ii.html #trilema
2019-07-14 spyked mp_en_viaje, receiving trackbacks doesn't work yet, I have some scripts for sending them that I run once in a while. the plan is to make it a proper blog with comments and trackbacks, after I'm done stealing the cl www stack #trilema
2019-07-11 lobbes_field This on the grounds that a) after reading the various cuntoo ebuild threads, it isn't clear to me that pythonisms are actually not needed and b) I actually know python/php, whereas I do not know cl #trilema
2019-07-11 lobbes_field Relatedly, I'm thinking that once I produce the mod_lisp vpatch, I may just leave the rest of the cl-www project to spyked, while I instead work on a 'python/php www kit. #trilema
2019-07-11 lobbes_field http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-11#1922319 << currently there exists no logotron web publishing glue. spyked is currently making headway on the 'cl-www kit' tho >> http://www.thetarpit.org/posts/y05/095-cl-who-ii.html #trilema
2019-07-06 spyked http://thetarpit.org/posts/y05/095-cl-who-ii.html#fn4 <-- updated cl-who demo with mega-likbez on html generation mechanism using macros. #trilema
2019-07-06 spyked http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/goXZ4/?raw=true <-- macroexpanded "hello world" example of cl-who. the second coad is what's executed when generating page; the first is what I have to write. the second indeed looks like salad to untrained eye, but otherwise maps 100% to cl-who constructs #trilema
2019-07-06 spyked i think it's safer to say that cl-who is a compiler from a particular set of s-expr into html. and looking at my (yet-again convoluted!) explanation, I can now distinctly remember that most debugging issues I've had were caused by not understanding the language. #trilema
2019-07-06 spyked mp_en_viaje, I'm confusing some things in my explanation, namely html (as outputted by that coad) and the S-expr-html representation in cl-who. the two are separate, and this meta-embedded is done with the latter and is used to separate code macro-processed by cl-who from code that executes when the page is generated. #trilema
2019-07-06 spyked http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-05#1921771 <-- it's how html templating/pre-processing usually works, you embed one language into the other. php is perl (or whatever) interleaved with html; cl-who is very similar, only without the leaky abstractions, i.e. html trees are represented as s-exprs and can be correctly manipulated as such #trilema
2019-07-05 feedbot http://thetarpit.org/posts/y05/095-cl-who-ii.html << The Tar Pit -- CL-WHO demo: The Coad Pit #trilema
2019-06-22 asciilifeform there is even a (sad, disused, esthlos went to bottom of sea) but last i saw -- working -- cl vtron #trilema
2019-05-28 feedbot http://thetarpit.org/posts/y05/092-cl-who.html << The Tar Pit -- CL-WHO genesis #trilema
2019-05-09 a111 Logged on 2019-05-06 15:00 phf: mp_en_viaje: it's the shitsoup ecosystem, there's a handful of packages smartly written, like hunchentoot or cl-http, and then there's new wave of cffi-everything approaches, that stand tall and pretend to be people #trilema
2019-05-06 lobbes_field http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-06#1911352 << still digesting this morning's logs, but it seems that re: (c) - html gen, everyone is in general agreement that cl-who would be a good place to start #trilema
2019-05-06 asciilifeform given any particular cl relic, it is usually not difficult to say which half of the divide it fell into #trilema
2019-05-06 a111 Logged on 2019-05-06 15:00 phf: mp_en_viaje: it's the shitsoup ecosystem, there's a handful of packages smartly written, like hunchentoot or cl-http, and then there's new wave of cffi-everything approaches, that stand tall and pretend to be people #trilema
2019-05-06 asciilifeform i'm not aware of any previous cl httptron that made this particular cut, so it's defo worth attempting imho. #trilema
2019-05-06 mp_en_viaje ie, the interface will have to exist. now -- it'll either be a) "magic" in the sense of cl-http, whatever, graybeard asked thor and thor did him a personal fabvour ; or else b) "magic", in the sense of loli veira asked her daddy, and her daddy told her she's pretty, so clearly. african magic. #trilema
2019-05-06 phf mp_en_viaje: it's the shitsoup ecosystem, there's a handful of packages smartly written, like hunchentoot or cl-http, and then there's new wave of cffi-everything approaches, that stand tall and pretend to be people #trilema
2019-05-06 mp_en_viaje i think apache mod cl thing brings it up once per instance (of apache) #trilema
2019-05-06 asciilifeform mp_en_viaje: it's been tried, 'cl as script lang', bog slow cuz bringing it up ( cl on x86 is moar or less halfbaked lispm emulator ) takes time. #trilema
2019-05-06 asciilifeform for bonus ugly, it aint in the cl standard. #trilema
2019-05-06 a111 Logged on 2019-05-06 12:21 phf: well, wookie depends on cffi through cl-async which depends on cffi and cl-libuv, where libuv is a C async library. teepeedee2 also depends on cffi and is full of code like https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vii/teepeedee2/master/src/io/epoll.lisp #trilema
2019-05-06 jurov Lest I forget: cl-async does not support slime #trilema
2019-05-06 jurov I disrecommend. Messed with cl-async (via vim interface) and it's hell to debug. It also takes over debug and trace outputs and redirects then nooneknowswhere. #trilema
2019-05-06 phf well, wookie depends on cffi through cl-async which depends on cffi and cl-libuv, where libuv is a C async library. teepeedee2 also depends on cffi and is full of code like https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vii/teepeedee2/master/src/io/epoll.lisp #trilema
2019-05-06 spyked re ffi, in that older research I've tried to avoid fast-running code in favour of fits-in-head, but I'll make sure to double-check in this iteration. the only www-related cffi dependency I recall was in cl+ssl, which I will remove on sight before genesis #trilema
2019-05-06 spyked phf: I might have misread http://archive.is/iUlSp#selection-2259.0-2270.0 ; anyway, I've only used cl-http-server seriously so far and would highly appreciate input from phf and ben_vulpes on cl wwwtronics #trilema
2019-05-06 a111 Logged on 2019-05-02 15:23 asciilifeform: none of these currently on front burner, but will be 9000x easier to revive if meanwhile lobbes et al produce an edible cl 'wwwism kit' #trilema
2019-05-06 spyked http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-02#1910954 <-- same here. would defo sign cl-who genesis, and will genesis it myself if needed #trilema
2019-05-02 lobbes_field Bit as a practical start, I may just sit down and read some of the existing items out there (cl-who) and then eventually freeze/gebesis #trilema
2019-05-02 lobbes_field I.e. If, say, spyked writes a better cl-www-tron I'd still want to be able to fit the thing in my head. So any work I do toward 'building my own' will only aid me in that task (hence relatedly, I suppose, why 'build yer own v-tron' is a commonly recommended exercise). #trilema
2019-05-02 lobbes_field On dumbphone atm, heres rest of line "the worst outcome for me personally would be I learn more cl (i.e. not a bad thing at all). And we get some republican items made in either case." #trilema
2019-05-02 mircea_popescu oh, this is only specced as "in lisp" because the rest of the bot is in cl. #trilema
2019-05-02 mircea_popescu lobbes_field, what's the idea here anyway, like a sort of "script html in cl" ? #trilema
2019-05-02 a111 Logged on 2019-05-02 15:23 asciilifeform: none of these currently on front burner, but will be 9000x easier to revive if meanwhile lobbes et al produce an edible cl 'wwwism kit' #trilema
2019-05-02 asciilifeform none of these currently on front burner, but will be 9000x easier to revive if meanwhile lobbes et al produce an edible cl 'wwwism kit' #trilema
2019-05-02 asciilifeform ( and, earlier, with 'cl phuctor frontend' and possibly other minor proggies ) #trilema
2019-05-02 lobbes now somewhere in all THAT, I'll need something to *generate* the html with, so to come full loop I would not be sad if a spyked cl-http-generator existed. #trilema
2019-05-02 lobbes http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-02#1910594 << well, I was going to attack it in pieces anyways, so actually if you want to do the CL-based httptron portion, I'd happily read/sign/use. Ultimately, I figure I'm going to need to first build a 'backend' that pulls the log data from the postgres db (probably using postmodern), and then the 'frontend' or app server that handles client requests (e.g. GET + POST), #trilema
2019-05-02 a111 Logged on 2019-05-02 07:11 spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-01#1910378 <-- do you mean the http side of the logotron? I'm quite interested in reading&signing a CL-based httptron, for multiple purposes. is to be one of the high-priority items on my list, unless lobbes wants a stab at it #trilema
2019-05-02 spyked http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-01#1910378 <-- do you mean the http side of the logotron? I'm quite interested in reading&signing a CL-based httptron, for multiple purposes. is to be one of the high-priority items on my list, unless lobbes wants a stab at it #trilema
2019-03-26 asciilifeform then can talk to mysql etc. just like trinque's cl proggy does #trilema
2019-03-17 a111 Logged on 2019-02-04 12:54 spyked: more generally: although I've been tempted to switch to mp-wp, I'm still hoping to grow the current thetarpit code base into a minimal cl-based mp-wp-like blogotron. I'ma also put a genesis on the todo list. #trilema
2019-03-12 asciilifeform hey phf do you know of a cl ircd ? #trilema
2019-03-08 a111 Logged on 2019-03-08 10:50 spyked: moreover, the same item will be useful for adding comments to thetarpit's cl blogotron, implementing mp-wp-anti-spam for the same, etc. #trilema
2019-03-08 spyked moreover, the same item will be useful for adding comments to thetarpit's cl blogotron, implementing mp-wp-anti-spam for the same, etc. #trilema
2019-03-06 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes 's display not included i dunno why ; phf's not included for the stated reason, obscure cl machine ; lobbes 's not included because in order to be able to patch it, he had to fix various things first, you were here for the "techniocal debt" discussion last year. #trilema
2019-03-06 mircea_popescu not sure why phf hadn't, but possibly because it's a finnicky setup on a lispmachine he can't reproduce, ie, the "10 minutes" in that case'd have included a decade's worth of encuntoo-ating whatever cl pile he uses. #trilema
2019-03-01 mircea_popescu tcp, prospect of "wtf, mysql, postgres", prospect of wtf we do with xml, prospect of cl-php-replacement, prospects galore. #trilema
2019-02-10 a111 Logged on 2019-02-05 01:00 asciilifeform: the ultimate win would be to get something other than gnat ( say, an adatron implemented in cl... ) that can build something resembling a working gnat. but sadly i suspect this is yrs away. #trilema
2019-02-09 mircea_popescu is this basically your hand spun cl cms or what ? #trilema
2019-02-04 asciilifeform the ultimate win would be to get something other than gnat ( say, an adatron implemented in cl... ) that can build something resembling a working gnat. but sadly i suspect this is yrs away. #trilema
2019-02-04 a111 Logged on 2019-02-04 16:49 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-04#1892247 << see how comms trip you up ? had you ~said~ this much i'd have said very different things, because i entirely don't see the problem with a cl blogotron. #trilema
2019-02-04 * asciilifeform has at various times attempted cl blogotron, but broke teeth on acct of insufficient wwwfu. if spyked decides to genesis his, would seriously consider converting #trilema
2019-02-04 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-04#1892247 << see how comms trip you up ? had you ~said~ this much i'd have said very different things, because i entirely don't see the problem with a cl blogotron. #trilema
2019-02-04 a111 Logged on 2019-02-04 12:54 spyked: more generally: although I've been tempted to switch to mp-wp, I'm still hoping to grow the current thetarpit code base into a minimal cl-based mp-wp-like blogotron. I'ma also put a genesis on the todo list. #trilema
2019-02-04 spyked more generally: although I've been tempted to switch to mp-wp, I'm still hoping to grow the current thetarpit code base into a minimal cl-based mp-wp-like blogotron. I'ma also put a genesis on the todo list. #trilema
2019-01-05 asciilifeform i posted a complete needleman in cl ( also a draft, rather than troo genesis, nobody stood up and said 'i want this' so shelved ) 2y ago, also. #trilema
2019-01-02 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i have plain old tcp with 'pehbot' ( via trinque's cl proggy ) #trilema
2019-01-02 trinque I've noticed some problems with tls connections on openbsd using sbcl and cl+ssl, here and elsewhere actually. #trilema
2018-12-27 asciilifeform in asciilifeform's experience, gold standard for this is a cycle-accurate emul of luser-os , with kbd/mouse controlled by e.g. cl proggy. #trilema
2018-12-16 amberglint it's still mentioned on Allegro CL's site: https://franz.com/success/customer_apps/animation_graphics/nichimen.lhtml #trilema
2018-12-04 a111 Logged on 2018-11-27 18:40 asciilifeform: phf: interestingly, http://www.loper-os.org/?cat=51 is example of useful (if you will) proggy written 100% in standard cl #trilema
2018-11-27 asciilifeform phf: interestingly, http://www.loper-os.org/?cat=51 is example of useful (if you will) proggy written 100% in standard cl #trilema
2018-11-27 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: there was a short time when those folx played at cl, 2005-9 roughly, but long gone nao #trilema
2018-11-27 asciilifeform fwiw i prototype algos in cl, which later turn into ada , but this is 'harem' rather than forum #trilema
2018-11-27 asciilifeform mine was conceived with angle 'when we make wallets' and so cl was ruled out, can't gc #trilema
2018-11-27 phf mircea_popescu: i did, i believe the reaction at the time was "let's see what'll come out of it", nothing came out of it though: cl-bitcoin in it's half baked state is using cffi to openssl #trilema
2018-11-27 phf asciilifeform: apropos i've attempted two years ago to do a rewrite for my cl-bitcoin, got bogged down in group theory, at this point still trying to power through an "introduction to group theory" text book. #trilema
2018-10-16 asciilifeform kinda like cl's 'binary-types' thing, but as part of the language, rather than add-on hackolade #trilema
2018-10-14 asciilifeform phf: context : i was baking a noad walker / torturer, orig in python, little thing, thought it would be doable in a day or 2; then found that mass of prb etc all break protocol in 9000 interesting ways, an extra byte here an' there, and realized that it aint doable without adult condition handling/restarts, which means cl. #trilema
2018-10-14 asciilifeform it's actually one of the reasons i haven't ever finished rewrite of phuctor in cl. erry time i sat down to do it, barfed on one of these things #trilema
2018-10-14 asciilifeform the particular experiment here is a node exerciser, rather than block eater, in cl #trilema
2018-10-14 ben_vulpes it is pretty novice cl; heavily java-flavored clos #trilema
2018-10-14 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: unrelatedly, didja ever post yer cl block/tx eater src ? i seem to recall that you did, but can't presently find in l0gz #trilema
2018-10-14 ben_vulpes http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-14#1862478 i lost a few hours to cl-postgres/postmodern/simple date over the past two months; there is now some cl-postgres-simple-date-glue package that needs loading in order for postmodern to use its local-date set of classes. once upon a time loading simple-date after cl-postgres was enough to get the mechanisms in place. #trilema
2018-10-06 asciilifeform phf: if you already have the coad for this, let's have it; otherwise i have a cl needleman-wunsch routine that i will adaize. #trilema
2018-10-01 asciilifeform ~that~ is the Right Thing for cl packagetronics. #trilema
2018-10-01 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-01#1856349 << right nao it's asdf, yes. but hopefully soon asdf can be replaced by your vtron-in-cl ! #trilema
2018-10-01 a111 Logged on 2018-10-01 11:51 esthlos: trinque: asdf is used to join the pieces together (keccak, gpg, etc.) for use by the vtron proper. I tried to build the vtron modularly, and my understanding is that asdf is the standard for handling modules in common lisp. is there a better way to do package management in cl? #trilema
2018-10-01 esthlos trinque: asdf is used to join the pieces together (keccak, gpg, etc.) for use by the vtron proper. I tried to build the vtron modularly, and my understanding is that asdf is the standard for handling modules in common lisp. is there a better way to do package management in cl? #trilema
2018-09-14 deedbot http://blog.esthlos.com/esthlos-v-part-2-cl-keccak/ << esthlos - esthlos-v Part 2: cl-keccak #trilema
2018-08-24 asciilifeform i'ma write it up in cl if nobody else wants to. #trilema
2018-08-21 asciilifeform even somehow abstracting over these -- proglang with gc is simply not acceptable in safety-critical/crypto proggy. it is at least in principle possible to write cl without cons; but afaik this is not practical in erlang #trilema
2018-07-29 deedbot http://blog.esthlos.com/cl-keccak-week-3/ << esthlos - cl-keccak, Week 3 #trilema
2018-07-23 deedbot http://blog.esthlos.com/cl-keccak-2-week-progress-report/ << esthlos - cl-keccak 2 Week Progress Report #trilema
2018-07-18 mircea_popescu before tmsr-ghost-of-gost-cl, a full enumeration of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-18#1835880 is prolly in order. #trilema
2018-07-18 asciilifeform cl standard is substantially closer to an ~actual~ standard than, e.g., c++, in the it is ~actually possible~ to program in standard cl. but it really gotta be reopened ( perhaps one day, tmsr cl?? ) and completed. #trilema
2018-06-06 a111 Logged on 2018-06-05 16:50 mircea_popescu: "thetarpit blog scaffolding is a few kLoC of CL, but lacks *any* editor-side interface" << understand something : i publish more than anyone, and by anyone we don't mean solo operators, we mean whole fucking outfits. there's a reason for this. the fact that trilema is comfortable to me provides those last edges of extra productivity and intellectual leverage that convert exceptional performance into mindblowing performance. t #trilema
2018-06-05 mircea_popescu "thetarpit blog scaffolding is a few kLoC of CL, but lacks *any* editor-side interface" << understand something : i publish more than anyone, and by anyone we don't mean solo operators, we mean whole fucking outfits. there's a reason for this. the fact that trilema is comfortable to me provides those last edges of extra productivity and intellectual leverage that convert exceptional performance into mindblowing performance. t #trilema
2018-06-05 spyked http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-04#1820568 <-- I also suspect that that's much of the cost of "works". leaving comments aside, thetarpit blog scaffolding is a few kLoC of CL, but lacks *any* editor-side interface (an item such as e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-15#1799520 would have to be done the old-fashioned way, moving the files manually or through ssh and maybe script this somehow, but it would be a *separate* piece of #trilema
2018-05-31 spyked ave1, yep. the process is not refined yet (getting the encrypted OTPs from deedbot is a tad irksome, gotta sift through cl-irc messages), but getting there. #trilema
2018-05-25 spyked http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-24#1818005 <-- it's a few (2-3?) weeks away from deployability. full report: basic functionality is pretty stable now (cl-feed-parser library was throwing random errors and wasn't fittable-in-head; so I had to replace and rewrite a significant portion of the rss and atom parsing bits). I still need to implement a. self-voicing and b. an access control mechanism. #trilema
2018-05-21 a111 Logged on 2018-05-21 21:41 phf: some of the unicode indiancandy was spitting cl-unicode doesn't have names for http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-09#1767678 #trilema
2018-05-21 a111 Logged on 2018-05-21 21:41 phf: some of the unicode indiancandy was spitting cl-unicode doesn't have names for http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-09#1767678 #trilema
2018-05-21 phf some of the unicode indiancandy was spitting cl-unicode doesn't have names for http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-09#1767678 #trilema
2018-05-21 esthlos anyone have a good idea for generating unique identifiers for v's gpg keyring name? I just spent a painful hour debugging because CL's #'get-universal-time is only precise to the second #trilema
2018-05-08 asciilifeform and from where came the dependency on cl-ppcre ? #trilema
2018-05-08 phf i've skimmed it when it came out and i agree with your feedback. primarily making it self contained, i.e. getting rid of cl-ppcre for parsing (!!1) and needless dependencies like uiop by way of classical (defun run-program (foo bar) #+sbcl (sb-ext:...) #+ccl (ccl:...) #-(or ccl sbcl) (error ...)) #trilema
2018-05-08 ben_vulpes i just found my old cl v as well; gonna dust it off for lulz #trilema
2018-05-08 esthlos trinque: yesterday could not make it to irc. removing the dependancy on cl-ppcre shoudn't be too hard. sbcl comes with sb-ext:run-program, which wraps a call to execvp (http://www.sbcl.org/manual/#DOCF7). if somehow uiop is being thrown into the mix, then it shouldn't be #trilema
2018-05-06 mircea_popescu i thought phf mostly did cmu cl #trilema
2018-05-06 trinque ccl is "clozure cl" #trilema
2018-05-06 trinque I'd also like to see the cl-ppcre dependency drop (not only for the call out to quicklisp to obtain it) #trilema
2018-05-03 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/501EDD3762C7C292208E0349D5CDFDD04D05E56ED6F086FA029EFC3746DC05E1 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1430...5939 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '200.89.73.15 (ssh-rsa key from 200.89.73.15 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (dns1.fen.uchile.cl. CL RM) #trilema
2018-05-03 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/C6887176B6CDFC21327154C7CF9890A46E19CDED876A002CF2D2B83CB9BE27D5 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1738...3169 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '190.151.13.230 (ssh-rsa key from 190.151.13.230 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (nodo.delva.cl. CL RM) #trilema
2018-05-03 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/C6887176B6CDFC21327154C7CF9890A46E19CDED876A002CF2D2B83CB9BE27D5 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1669...1913 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '190.151.13.230 (ssh-rsa key from 190.151.13.230 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (nodo.delva.cl. CL RM) #trilema
2018-04-27 a111 Logged on 2018-04-27 13:34 spyked: good to know, I'll add an example using sbcl's run-program. iirc drakma (or one of the libraries it depends on) forced me to update to asdf3 because of uiop dependency, when getting cl-feed-parser to run. #trilema
2018-04-27 a111 Logged on 2018-04-27 13:34 spyked: good to know, I'll add an example using sbcl's run-program. iirc drakma (or one of the libraries it depends on) forced me to update to asdf3 because of uiop dependency, when getting cl-feed-parser to run. #trilema
2018-04-27 spyked good to know, I'll add an example using sbcl's run-program. iirc drakma (or one of the libraries it depends on) forced me to update to asdf3 because of uiop dependency, when getting cl-feed-parser to run. #trilema
2018-04-24 spyked http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-24#1804959 <-- /me can confirm. I have a toy prototype, irc side is in process of consolidation; rss grabbing and parsing side (the cl-feed-parser thing) is kinda brittle and might have to be replaced. #trilema
2018-04-24 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/992A25CDB4B0088C43ADE9593FE0CBA651B73178EC6470CFEB53392634F38D79 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 2257...9939 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '164.77.208.150 (ssh-rsa key from 164.77.208.150 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown CL RM) #trilema
2018-04-24 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/DEFC6FF1AC64CC8C373077F95ECA07184BB6F0E7C8119BE3F4E831257B572E3A << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 2257...9939 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '164.77.41.243 (ssh-rsa key from 164.77.41.243 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown CL RM) #trilema
2018-04-12 spyked trinque, yeah, I'm actually playing with cl-feed-parser to get an idea of what's required for the feed bot, going to spec it and all. I grabbed it off the githubs ( https://github.com/tkych/cl-feed-parser ) and the number of dependencies is irksome, so if you happen to know a better alternative other than building my own, I'm open to suggestions #trilema
2018-04-12 trinque could probably pretty easily bolt your cl-feed-parser to ircbot #trilema
2018-04-12 a111 Logged on 2018-04-12 04:24 mircea_popescu: and in other logs, "CL-Feed-Parser/0.0.00 (SBCL 1.4.5; Linux;" #trilema
2018-04-12 mircea_popescu and in other logs, "CL-Feed-Parser/0.0.00 (SBCL 1.4.5; Linux;" #trilema
2018-04-03 phf so cl-irc isn't "stripping away" faulty sequences, there's a state machine parser there that only accepts a valid irc protocol, likewise the renderer is not escaping html, instead the dom is constructed server side and where you have strings, you can only have strings. they will be serialized into html according to html escaping rules. #trilema
2018-04-03 mircea_popescu epic contributions from "paul nakata" (hey, nobody on a stick but has a keybase key), some dork who "programs in cl every day" and the whole menagerie of "nobody told us to shut the fuck up like, ever" #trilema
2018-04-03 phf i believe rainer joswig hosts his websites on some arm box with CL-HTTP on top of it #trilema
2018-03-27 ben_vulpes in other news, i think that fare broke the "simple-date" behavior in the cl "postmodern" postgresql client library #trilema
2018-02-02 asciilifeform trinque: that's exactly the kind of thing i wouldn't do. my hypothetical http serv would be strictly for fully adatronic app. like hunchentoot in cl world. #trilema
2018-01-20 spyked there are some dependencies on cl-who and a few other libraries, which for now are taken as they are (similarly to trb "deps") #trilema
2018-01-20 spyked shinohai, I use a self-rolled static page generator based on Common Lisp (CL-WHO) (and Pandoc for parsing Markdown, but pandoc and markdown are both optional, of course). I have the source code published on shithub, but it's mostly hacked together, so in this sense not very different from any static site generator. https://github.com/spyked/thetarpit.org <-- coad and text #trilema
2018-01-17 asciilifeform cl-http was notorious for its fuckyou-license #trilema
2018-01-17 fromloper Mallery didn't do much for Symbolics before he bought it, outside of supplying it with CL-HTTP #trilema
2018-01-16 a111 Logged on 2018-01-16 21:44 phf: in further fare news, "SBCL 1.4.3 ships with ASDF 3.3.1, and a number of Quicklisp projects have build problems as a result. Linedit, mgl, micmac, cl-string-match, and others are affected." #trilema
2018-01-16 phf in further fare news, "SBCL 1.4.3 ships with ASDF 3.3.1, and a number of Quicklisp projects have build problems as a result. Linedit, mgl, micmac, cl-string-match, and others are affected." #trilema
2018-01-05 asciilifeform this is not actually possible in a general way, it'd have to ~understand~ cpp, ada, cl, whatevers #trilema
2018-01-05 gabriel_laddel never pdf to text, but yes, archiver, NN via FG, RSA impl in CL, yes linux distro #trilema
2018-01-03 gabriel_laddel dumbass. the reason I say nothing is because there is nothing to say about it other than "WIP". What, you need to hear about how pleased I am with (ALIAS 'f 'cl::defun)? gtfo' #trilema
2017-12-30 asciilifeform ( ftr i did try cl-vecto, and barfed. why do i have to touch absolute coord ?! ) #trilema
2017-12-29 phf (fwiw ircbot is already sbcl specific, since it relies on a bunch of sbcl threading extensions, so pulling compat layer for cl-irc is a waste) #trilema
2017-12-29 phf one solution could be to, e.g. post cl-irc, but hard coded to a specific sbcl implementation. whoever wants to port it elsewhere (like cmucl or whatever) can just post a #-sbcl #+cmucl vpatch, etc. #trilema
2017-12-29 asciilifeform ^ by all indications, cl-irc is broken by something-or-other in the massive pot-o-liquishit #trilema
2017-12-29 a111 Logged on 2017-12-29 15:30 mircea_popescu: ll ANSI compliant CL implementations with specialized versions tuned for implementations that offer unboxed 64bit arithmetic, unboxed 32bit arithmetic and for implementations with efficient fixnum arithmetic, i.e. requiring fixnums that can represent (unsigned-byte 16)." #trilema
2017-12-29 mircea_popescu ll ANSI compliant CL implementations with specialized versions tuned for implementations that offer unboxed 64bit arithmetic, unboxed 32bit arithmetic and for implementations with efficient fixnum arithmetic, i.e. requiring fixnums that can represent (unsigned-byte 16)." #trilema
2017-12-29 asciilifeform iirc i posted a battlefield-worn one in cl #trilema
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