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00:54 ave1 re: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-26#1789669, yes i do.
00:54 a111 Logged on 2018-03-26 14:22 mircea_popescu: re http://trilema.com/2018/the-rivers-of-blood-article-or-the-lordship-list-fifth-year/ << spyked ave1 do you even want to be l1'd ?
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01:21 ben_vulpes !!deed http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/9gtOS/?raw=true
01:21 deedbot accepted: 1
01:21 ben_vulpes mod6: please approve ^^ and ping teh treasurer for payment
01:26 ben_vulpes !!invoice trinque 0.00890489 pro-rated march hosting
01:27 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/TlV44/?raw=true
01:27 ben_vulpes !!v E132D04C2B6FCB8A9BC5736A369297E0EE4E6533B6DB58FBCAC78A2E571790A5
01:27 deedbot Invoiced trinque 0.00890489 << pro-rated march hosting
01:28 ben_vulpes !!invoice trinque 0.11985394 server couriering
01:28 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/6n9le/?raw=true
01:28 ben_vulpes !!v 0D700B85EA72DF84CC0400E6947C3662D752AB337F7875B6E030916ADAB4E39F
01:28 deedbot Invoiced trinque 0.11985394 << server couriering
01:30 mod6 ben_vulpes: sure, I'll look this over and get back to you.
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01:46 ben_vulpes !!invoice hanbot .00067742 pro-rated march shared hosting
01:46 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/uWmQ5/?raw=true
01:47 ben_vulpes !!v 678DCA5FB9BE021DB7EDF4FB2EBD286217B0F68264E04268BF7FE9D397FEB902
01:47 deedbot Invoiced hanbot .00067742 << pro-rated march shared hosting
01:47 ben_vulpes !!invoice lobbes .00067742 pro-rated march shared hosting
01:47 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/UXleP/?raw=true
01:47 ben_vulpes !!v 8A2623E1A3F6A1A287AC79772D9EC3A3CE84FE941CE8A9FB81983BEA9693E573
01:47 deedbot Invoiced lobbes .00067742 << pro-rated march shared hosting
01:48 ben_vulpes spam over, thank you for your patience
01:51 mircea_popescu you know you should probably consolidate invoices, it'\s a pain in the ass to pay the same person 3 or n times in the same day/week
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02:29 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: i suppose the thing to do is invoice once with a link to the deeded linen items
02:29 ben_vulpes in other news, i think that fare broke the "simple-date" behavior in the cl "postmodern" postgresql client library
02:30 ben_vulpes > Fix .asd files so they work well with ASDF 3.3
02:30 ben_vulpes another delightful play date with little georgie open soros
02:45 deedbot http://deedbot.org/bundle-515352.txt
02:56 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes not such a good idea to introduce more moving parts. but simply "n = x for a + y for b + z for c"
02:56 ben_vulpes makes sense
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03:19 mircea_popescu and in other postmodern wonders, where japanese pixels meet http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-3-26#319805 ; or self-resolving inadequacy : https://chastityandcensorship.tumblr.com/
03:19 mimisbrunnr Logged on 2018-03-26 15:36 mircea_popescu: somehow, notwithstanding how san fernando valley dominated hollywood for half of the 80s and most of the 90s, the mpaa still reflects "the movie industry" views of state st, rather than either hollywood or porn valley.
03:21 mircea_popescu i would suppose this is why http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2017-11-3#232863 ; and apparently it fucking works, too. maybe if they get bored enough they'll self-vacupack and http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2017-11-8#235412
03:21 mimisbrunnr Logged on 2017-11-03 12:31 asciilifeform: i still dun fully grasp the middle kingdom's 'feed the enemy until he dies of old age' philosophy, so cannot comment
03:26 ben_vulpes http://logs.bvulpes.com/search?q=from%3Amircea_popescu+tits&c=trilema
03:35 ben_vulpes (mircea_popescu: "fromsearch" is live on my loggotron)
03:40 spyked http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-26#1789669 <-- of course, I'd be glad to! though I agree with diana_coman's observation that I'm a candidate but maybe not fit for lordship yet (perhaps a superfluous comment on my part, but since you asked)
03:40 a111 Logged on 2018-03-26 14:22 mircea_popescu: re http://trilema.com/2018/the-rivers-of-blood-article-or-the-lordship-list-fifth-year/ << spyked ave1 do you even want to be l1'd ?
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04:03 mircea_popescu oty!
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05:25 ben_vulpes aha, yw
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11:33 ave1 diana_coman: It seems that links posted my reply halfway, feel free to delete this one http://www.dianacoman.com/2018/01/11/eucrypt-chapter-5-c-m-e-mod-n/#comment-1132
11:38 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes : http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-3-27#320135 << it should read both lines.
11:38 mimisbrunnr Logged on 2018-03-27 07:13 mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2017-11-03 12:31 asciilifeform: i still dun fully grasp the middle kingdom's 'feed the enemy until he dies of old age' philosophy, so cannot comment
11:40 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: why so it should
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12:05 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes http://logs.bvulpes.com/search?q=walk+dogs&c=trilema
12:07 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: thx
12:07 ben_vulpes pfff
12:07 ben_vulpes k
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12:28 deedbot http://trilema.com/2018/the-snows-of-ten-years-ago-almost/ << Trilema - The snows of ten years ago (almost)
12:34 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: fixed, ty. i'll get to the multiple-links thing later
12:34 mircea_popescu np
12:40 deedbot http://qntra.net/2018/03/militia-veteran-of-oregon-liberation-campaign-ryan-bundy-running-for-nevada-governorship/ << Qntra - Militia Veteran Of Oregon Liberation Campaign Ryan Bundy Running For Nevada Governorship
12:41 mircea_popescu aaaahahaha
12:42 BingoBoingo 250 signatures is the bar for getting his name printed on the ballot. Bring da sutures for da pantsuit buttleakx
12:42 mircea_popescu that country's a whole other level of comedy gold.
12:43 mircea_popescu it'ds also strictly speaking not quite incoinceivable he actually wins. nevada is small.
12:43 BingoBoingo The best part is this isn't even the photogenic brother. This is the one whose face got run over by a car and droops. But yes he can win.
12:44 BingoBoingo Nevada is small except for the part where it holds vegas... Very winnable.
12:44 mircea_popescu depends how the campaign goes. but if people turn out to actually give a shit about "stood up in arms to federal govt and won", heck, he's got it.
12:46 BingoBoingo Right, nothing's a sure thing. Pantsuit is eating their Facebook of all things. US politics is getting deliciously weird on the way to the flush.
12:52 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/u8IKs/?raw=true
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13:19 mircea_popescu asciilifeform http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/WHHmi/?raw=true
13:21 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: 1) worx, will set it up nao 2) got it, will set it up asap
13:21 mircea_popescu works.
13:24 mircea_popescu trinque could the deedbot be strengthened with a) a rss page on the site, along the lines of http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-3-26#319646 ; whereby i can visit http://deedbot.org/6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452/feed where all items of interest (incoming payments and invoices as well as deeds signed by me) are announced (as rsa encrypted to my key items) ?
13:24 mimisbrunnr Logged on 2018-03-26 01:41 mircea_popescu: incidentally, "every shop must have a website (with ssl everywhere!!!)" and "every customer must have a loyalty card" trends of useless nonsense somehow haven't converged to the most basic sanity of, "give us your rsa pubkey, then download your data from our website whenever you want to, just go to shop.com/yourname"
13:24 mircea_popescu then b) becomes just having the bot subscribe to that feed.
13:32 trinque pretty hesitant to continue to build the republican dependency on the web browser.
13:33 mircea_popescu where does this depend on browser ?
13:33 mircea_popescu or do you mean take the rss thing out altogether ?
13:35 hanbot p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Sqn1u/?raw=true << anyone else ever seen this wonder?
13:35 mircea_popescu hanbot wtf ?
13:35 mircea_popescu i presume you have phf's key in ?
13:35 hanbot in .wot, i do.
13:36 mircea_popescu same behaviour for all nodes or just that ?
13:36 asciilifeform this looks like a classic missing-commandline-util barf
13:36 asciilifeform most likely sha512
13:36 trinque mircea_popescu: depends on "web" I should've said. I'd sooner skip the RSS feed part and have the bot directly message folks when interesting things happen. the usefulness of this is blunted by the fact that currently gossipd is implemented by gpg-paste.
13:36 hanbot just that node, mircea_popescu
13:36 asciilifeform ( iirc mod6 introduced a check in a recent edition of his vtron, but possible that hanbot has the old one ? )
13:36 hanbot i do have the old mod6 vtron, i'll look @ new, ty asciilifeform
13:37 mircea_popescu trinque there's two layers here. layer 1 : there's a lot of flexibility in letting it be rss ; i can have a rss reader read it for me rather than put all failure points in freenode-dns.
13:38 mircea_popescu layer 2, the general point : rss is very visible an irc-driven reaction to web idiocy. it's the web-less-est thing on the web, and for the very plain and evident consideration tha the web is wrong, EXACTLY in the way discussed here re alphabet etc, "do not ye pretend to tell the user how to display data".
13:38 asciilifeform hanbot: waitasec
13:38 asciilifeform hanbot: mod6's old vtron did not support 'verbose'
13:38 mircea_popescu i suspect that however you turn it, something LIKE rss we will have to have, and that like is so close as to not make the killing worth the bullets.
13:38 trinque mircea_popescu: this and also "I can't push you anything"
13:38 asciilifeform hanbot: so your press head in the args ended up word 'verbose'
13:38 mircea_popescu but i'd like to discuss this.
13:39 trinque certainly the thing is needed in the abstract. service exists and user wants a stream of happenings.
13:39 mircea_popescu right.
13:39 trinque just want to cogitate on which implementation will least obstruct future sanity
13:39 mircea_popescu then this makes it open season for that.
13:45 mircea_popescu nice catch there asciilifeform lolz
13:46 hanbot ooo ty asciilifeform, quite right. now how did i end up with old vtron and new usermanual, lol
13:48 hanbot oh man, you have any idea how much time you prolly just saved me? phew
13:49 asciilifeform np hanbot
14:01 mircea_popescu in other lulz, did you know pigs actually have lower fat ratios than human females ? 70% or so muscle dem ripped oinkers.
14:05 BingoBoingo Pigs also do more bad sports drugs than most ballsketsport players
14:06 mircea_popescu wait a damned second.
14:06 mircea_popescu phf does your new vdiff (that's supposed to introduce keccak into the build flow) actually REQUIRE the presser ALREADY HAVE keccak ?
14:13 deedbot http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/03/27/human-migration-in-uruguay/ << Bingo Blog - Human Migration In Uruguay
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14:37 asciilifeform !!up fromloper
14:37 deedbot fromloper voiced for 30 minutes.
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15:06 phf http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-27#1789989 << no, it's diffed with sha512 differ (a keccak vpatch wouldn't link into existing graph either, since hashes won't match)
15:06 a111 Logged on 2018-03-27 18:06 mircea_popescu: phf does your new vdiff (that's supposed to introduce keccak into the build flow) actually REQUIRE the presser ALREADY HAVE keccak ?
15:07 phf vtools graph that's on btcbase is all sha512
15:14 phf (but just to further clarify, vtools patchset is all SHA512, so pressing it will work with all the existing tooling. vtools's vdiff can be pressed to have either keccak or sha512 support. vtools's vpatch at the moment can be pressed to have keccak support only.)
15:18 phf right now keccak/sha512 vpatches are not differentiated in any way, so having both of them in the same workflow might result in confusion (in fact it did when i was testing things at some point). it might be worthwhile to introduce some kind of hash tagging scheme, eg keccak:<hash> vs sha512:<hash> and keep <hash> without prefix as sha512 for legacy reasons.
15:20 phf i've avoided any particular scheme, because it might introduce equivalence that doesn't exist. sha512 as an "alternative" vs. sha512 as aggressively deprecated.
15:20 mod6 <+hanbot> p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Sqn1u/?raw=true << anyone else ever seen this wonder? << you're missing a output directory
15:21 mod6 <+asciilifeform> hanbot: mod6's old vtron did not support 'verbose' << pretty sure always did -- at least going back 2 years, aha.
15:21 mod6 hanbot: should have been, perhaps: ./v.pl p v vtools vtools-vpatch.vpatch
15:22 mod6 or if you'd rather: ./v.pl press verbose vtools vtools-vpatch.vpatch
15:24 mod6 (where 'vtools' is the press output directory)
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16:27 mod6 <+hanbot> ooo ty asciilifeform, quite right. now how did i end up with old vtron and new usermanual, lol << oh, herp, didn't even see this.
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16:52 mod6 http://trilema.com/2018/the-rivers-of-blood-article-or-the-lordship-list-fifth-year/#comment-125099
16:58 mod6 http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-27#1789892 << looks good to me ben_vulpes.
16:58 a111 Logged on 2018-03-27 05:21 ben_vulpes: mod6: please approve ^^ and ping teh treasurer for payment
17:03 mod6 jurov^ The above is a Pizarro invoice for services rendered to The Bitcoin Foundation during the Month of March. Please remit the amount indicated to the address indicated in the deed. Thanks in advance! Please let me know if you have any questions.
17:13 jurov okay
17:17 mircea_popescu phf cool. and yeah, keeping an eye on this for now.
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18:09 shinohai http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-3-27#320406 <<< and I thank you for the hours of instruction not only on trb, but V as well. Has been a pleasure and an honour, Sir! o7
18:09 mimisbrunnr Logged on 2018-03-27 20:44 mod6: http://trilema.com/2018/the-rivers-of-blood-article-or-the-lordship-list-fifth-year/#comment-125099
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18:42 phf moar wrecker crypto code found in build stack here https://p11-glue.github.io/p11-glue/
18:45 mod6 shinohai: yvw
18:45 asciilifeform phf: where exactly in build stack ?
18:47 phf asciilifeform: building weechat on a work laptop using homebrew. i mean, that's deep behind enemy lines, so it's not surprising, but i'm fascinated by the increasing levels of fail
18:48 asciilifeform aah sslism
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