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00:30 mircea_popescu that looks 2001-terrible
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00:31 mircea_popescu "Bulletin Board As you may have discovered, our bulletin board has recently been overrun by garbage posts, contributing in part to the crash of the Mirai forum. "
00:31 mircea_popescu " As a result, we have decided to turn off the bulletin board while we search for a better product (hopefully one that will allow us to migrate our previous content). Just to let everyone know, we have been working quite busily over the past couple months, and will make announcements of any new product availability as soon as it/they become(s) available! "
00:31 mircea_popescu epic.
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00:53 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-16#1881098 << mid-'80s item
00:53 a111 Logged on 2018-12-16 05:30 mircea_popescu: that looks 2001-terrible
00:54 asciilifeform ( baked on 36xx-series bolixen, will add, where 4m was serious mem.. )
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05:20 amberglint Hello everyone
05:20 lobbesbot amberglint: Sent 2 weeks, 1 day, 6 hours, and 7 minutes ago: <BingoBoingo> your last line ties into the real estate thread. Easier to buy things than make things or have them made
05:21 amberglint http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-16#1881090 << not cppized, ported to Allegro Common Lisp actually
05:21 a111 Logged on 2018-12-16 04:44 asciilifeform: ( phunphakt to tie this into prev thread -- seems as if the bolix 3d engine, 1 of the 1st to be sold as such, still exists as commercial product, owned by some jp firm. naturally cppized and renamed. )
05:22 amberglint I have a copy if you are interested in it
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05:22 amberglint http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-16#1881097 << the most-well known item is the Lord of the Rings movie
05:22 a111 Logged on 2018-12-16 04:59 asciilifeform: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bTqWsVqyzE << the most well-known item produced with subj, afaik
05:23 amberglint Gollum was modeled and animated in Mirai
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05:26 amberglint the product was renamed twice, first to N-World, then to Mirai
05:28 amberglint N-World was relatively popular among 90s game developers, used in the development of Super Mario 64 and Final Fantasy VII which are probably the most popular console games of their time
05:31 amberglint it's still mentioned on Allegro CL's site: https://franz.com/success/customer_apps/animation_graphics/nichimen.lhtml
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06:32 mircea_popescu cool.
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10:30 BingoBoingo The afterlife is a helluva thing
10:30 BingoBoingo a vecwes
10:30 BingoBoingo a veces
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11:32 asciilifeform !Q later tell amberglint http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-16#1881109 << if you found the src, might be interesting , otherwise not imho esp. useful
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11:32 a111 Logged on 2018-12-16 10:22 amberglint: I have a copy if you are interested in it
11:32 lobbesbot asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
11:34 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-16#1881112 << interesting, and esp. from the pov where the bolixiana hoarders quite resemble him...
11:34 a111 Logged on 2018-12-16 10:23 amberglint: Gollum was modeled and animated in Mirai
11:35 asciilifeform '...my precious!'(tm)(r)
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12:57 phf also https://franz.com/success/customer_apps/animation_graphics/izware.lhtml
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13:24 feedbot http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2842 << Loper OS -- Finite Field Arithmetic. Chapter 14A: Barretts Modular Reduction. (Part 1 of 2)
13:30 * asciilifeform bbl,meat
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13:48 feedbot http://trilema.com/2018/post-malone/ << Trilema -- Post Malone
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14:14 mircea_popescu !Q later tell juliankunkel would you kindly spare us the join/part spamming ? can read the weblogs just fine, no need to be connected with nothing to say.
14:14 lobbesbot mircea_popescu: The operation succeeded.
14:15 mircea_popescu and more generally, if it's a "oh, #trilema is item #608 on my list of 1850 vaguely maybe interesting items i found on the internet, among which i read to pass the time waiting for the bus or w/e" sorta affair forget about it altogether, there's 0 interest in supporting that kinda imbecility/pluralism/skepticism.
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14:15 diana_coman I suppose log etiquette is not obvious
14:16 mircea_popescu i doubt the problem's etiquette. seems to me much deeper issue than that, civillian pantsuit expects anything can be taken in "at his own rate" because his personal golden veal promised him there will never be such a thing as the calling in this world.
14:18 mircea_popescu "nothing can ever be truly interesting" or w/e formulation.
14:19 diana_coman hm, I don't yet see it that way but it'll become clear one way or another quite quickly
14:21 * mircea_popescu defers, i see it from afar.
14:21 mircea_popescu apparently it's called the golden calf, in english. pity, seems a wasted opportunity.
14:25 diana_coman ah, I was scratching head re golden veal, lol; that'd be the steak basically
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15:10 feedbot http://ossasepia.com/2018/12/16/a-week-in-tmsr-3-9-december-2018/ << Ossasepia -- A Week in TMSR: 3-9 December 2018
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15:32 mircea_popescu http://ossasepia.com/2018/12/16/a-week-in-tmsr-3-9-december-2018/#selection-211.1-211.257 << maybe a bit of an overstatement. eg, turning off the checks will improve it still.
15:35 diana_coman right, no ways to improve the algorithms rather
15:35 mircea_popescu http://ossasepia.com/2018/12/16/a-week-in-tmsr-3-9-december-2018/#selection-263.110-263.118 << salve is the other one, from salus ("health", really though more like "indemnity"). cons rom reg phyrrh ~salutem~.
15:35 mircea_popescu there's two basic salutations, anthropo-objectively speaking : "i'm with you" and "may you be ok".
15:36 diana_coman ftr the whole thing took a bit less than 3 hours including some re-reading of stuff just-because
15:37 diana_coman this is not to say that any week would take the same, as I don't expect it would
15:37 mircea_popescu imo it's pretty good!
15:37 mircea_popescu and nicole is not in the slightest jealous at all.
15:38 diana_coman I thought she was anyway moving on to doing the ocr thing?
15:39 diana_coman anyway, this is mainly because of this repeated "oh, this was around for ages; uhm, no, actually since ~2 months ago"
15:40 diana_coman ah, ah, re time; well, it's the 3 hours after ..how many years
15:41 mircea_popescu :p
15:42 mircea_popescu "five dollars -- knob ; five grand -- the time it took to learn which"
15:42 mircea_popescu but yes, pretty good both as to time taken and as to content produced!
15:44 diana_coman the knob+time is always and forever as it was
15:44 diana_coman and thank you for all the feedback!
15:44 diana_coman corrections added with links in a comment too
15:47 mircea_popescu "The article is short, its embedded references are a den of rabbit holes. " << this last one has, (i counted), 22 links. half of which (exactly) are linked to-reference inside, and most of the reference indices are three digits. one's 4 digits (2781!). the average is 427 (exactly!) and considering that thing counts objects...
15:48 mircea_popescu i'd say my articles are getting better, or rather that it seems to me there was a quality jump sometime this year. but this is to me, from outside i suspect the complexity just exploded (again).
15:49 * diana_coman hasn't yet read the Post Malone thing
15:50 diana_coman but re articles on trilema in general I'd say that they certainly build a LOT on pre-existing stuff so yes, on one hand better and on the other hand more complex
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16:11 mircea_popescu and speaking of the db issue, because yes i've been mulling it though, it is ~probably~ an unresolvable conundrum. things like trilema laughing at http://trilema.com/2014/mircea-popescu-is-an-asshole/ slash 2014 douchebags entirely depend on its underlying database (and its usage thereof) being very well flattened into vanishing nothingness. meanwhile items like the search discussed last time, support for transactions (which
16:11 mircea_popescu a blog doesn't fucking need! at all!) and so on all come at a cost. which cost you strictly and unmitigatably can not afford in web-facing production environments, period and full stop.
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16:12 mircea_popescu ie, we're straight back to a http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-01#1877543 : when it comes to flight, the strategy must include separating the egg laying part out of the airplane. whereas when it comes to fit-in-head or what have you, elegance, self-containedness, the egg laying part must be included in the airplane.
16:12 a111 Logged on 2018-12-01 21:21 mircea_popescu: "the notion that airplanes could reproduce through laying eggs is merely a naive extension, in the vein of 'object A has properties a and b ; object B shares property a and therefore it is reasonable ~~~on a first approximation~~~ to expect it exhibit proerty b'. nevertheless, artifacts differ from nature in that one fundamental aspect, that they're inefficient, and therefore to achieve same ends end up heavy, and in the case
16:12 mircea_popescu these are contrary, and the contrast is unresolvable, either you go for tall girls or you go for light girls. there's no tall light girls.
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19:25 mircea_popescu meanwhile in trilema throwbacks thursday, http://trilema.com/2015/a-lunatic-with-a-bloodied-axe-could-be-ringing-at-your-door/
19:25 mircea_popescu ANOTHER three years.
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21:15 mircea_popescu meanwhile in wtf : iptables -nL works as expected ; iptables -Ln does not ; iptables -L -n does not either. dat "unix philosophy".
21:16 mircea_popescu remembering arbitrary random associations is not enough, gotta now remember their order, also. what -r is recursive and -v is version, grep wants -v to be invert match and curl wants -r to be "range", whatever the fuck yahoos come up with you're stuck learning.
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22:07 feedbot http://danielpbarron.com/2018/i-guess-well-know-for-sure-at-the-judgment/ << Daniel P. Barron -- I guess we'll know for sure at the judgment.
22:20 nicoleci diana_coman, your summary does look great! not as much jealous as amazed :)
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22:59 hanbot BingoBoingo, for yer consideration: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/qfiDP/?raw=true
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23:24 BingoBoingo tyvm hanbot
23:25 feedbot http://qntra.net/2018/12/euloras-new-all-time-high-jackpot-trebles-hits-3-5-btc/ << Qntra -- Eulora's New All-Time High Jackpot Trebles, Hits 3.5 BTC
23:30 mircea_popescu yeah, and it was mostly bod too, like 6k units high q.
23:35 BingoBoingo Nice
23:38 asciilifeform diana_coman: http://ossasepia.com/2018/12/16/a-week-in-tmsr-3-9-december-2018/comment-page-1/#comment-4601
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23:38 asciilifeform mightily nifty summary piece btw, diana_coman
23:38 asciilifeform my absolute fave to date in this genre
23:39 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-16#1881163 << fwiw in the end i tuned phuctor so has transactions + indices + fast + sliced bread
23:39 a111 Logged on 2018-12-16 21:11 mircea_popescu: a blog doesn't fucking need! at all!) and so on all come at a cost. which cost you strictly and unmitigatably can not afford in web-facing production environments, period and full stop.
23:39 asciilifeform ( all on postgres tho, and prolly not straight-portable to others, e.g. mysql )
23:48 mircea_popescu prolly should publish this then
23:49 * mircea_popescu certainly not against having magic postgres ver+config tested out for mp-wp. never stumbled on the magic combo, but also never looked too hard. the hooks are in though, can be switched ~effortlessly.
23:52 asciilifeform is anybody other than asciilifeform using postgres currently ?
23:52 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: ben_vulpes is
23:52 asciilifeform the only item i have that is intensely pgistic is indices
23:52 mircea_popescu trinque afaik, the original champion.
23:53 asciilifeform i'ma put on the conveyor, a piece re how to index ( supposing trinque dun get to it 1st )
23:54 asciilifeform i dun have much in the way of seriously deep departure from default global config ( the defaults are surprisingly sane in pg -- e.g., no 'eat infinite ram' default like apparently exists in mysql )
23:55 asciilifeform and, notably, ultra-stable, i planted the thing on pg in '16 and has ran at all times it had a box to run on, 100% duty cycle, no crashes
23:55 asciilifeform inserting a key ( of typical mass, coupla sub-FP's, etc) takes ~100msec.
23:56 asciilifeform search of whole orchestra takes 200-500ms
23:56 asciilifeform ( can try with 'curl' yerself )
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