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01:34 mats asciilifeform: i used the prev build. after updating to mainline, no issues getting a tx out
~ 4 hours 16 minutes ~
05:50 diana_coman http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-24#1882961 -> that's great to hear, thank you!
05:50 a111 Logged on 2018-12-24 23:12 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-24#1882923 << these are a delight to read, diana_coman
~ 6 hours 5 minutes ~
11:56 mircea_popescu kinda addictive to write, too, aren't they.
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~ 15 minutes ~
12:11 feedbot http://trilema.com/2018/the-outbridge-the-bitches-bow-the-various-things-you-didnt-know/ << Trilema -- The Outbridge, the Bitches' Bow, the various things you didn't know...
~ 19 minutes ~
12:30 asciilifeform guten tag, mircea_popescu !
12:30 mircea_popescu heya!
12:32 asciilifeform impressive dead bridge. a++ 'indiana jones' tropical hell.
12:34 * asciilifeform meanwhile got hold of a gigantic flatbed scanner, with afaik densest available sensor, '9600x9600 dpi', which in human units is ~3 micron / pixel. which'd be aaaalmost enuff to simply scan the die, if i had the naked die... but i'ma scan the pcbs with it, and the xray film, when i get hold of the latter.
12:35 asciilifeform after that , ch14b, where i found a ~20% (linear) speedup.
12:35 mircea_popescu diana_coman "even whe she" ; the rest ima comment.
12:36 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i'm just back from dumping a >500 word comment into diana's blog ; this thing is going critical
12:36 mircea_popescu btw diana_coman can i rely on <b><em><blockquote> working in your comment section ?
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12:37 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: neato
12:37 mircea_popescu (there's a special settings page for listing allowed tags, and i'm starting to suspect this should be standardized by now -- tho why the fuck is it <b> rather than <very-nice-and-thickly_bold> and wtf is <blockquote>, <bq> was taken ?!)
12:37 mircea_popescu aw shit, and it ate my links! god damn it...
12:38 mircea_popescu http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/1LlrA/?raw=true << orig.
12:39 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: for some a++ depression fuel, try sometime & tally up how much life html tags ate
12:39 * asciilifeform just in this month burned 2+ wks on fucking formattingism
12:39 mircea_popescu not depressing me, because being forewarned permitted me to organize my life around defense.
12:39 mircea_popescu i expect i spent <week total to date with them. which yes, since you ask, i am quite proud of.
12:40 mircea_popescu much like the man who didn't lose the house in MMM hysteria might be proud : naggum has a snippet with y2k
12:40 asciilifeform indeed does
~ 18 minutes ~
12:58 mircea_popescu and meanwhile in rotaku lulz, http://trilema.com/2012/doua-vorbe-in-directia-generala-a-unei-copile-vaitate/
12:58 BingoBoingo And in other Christmas stories https://www.elobservador.com.uy/nota/navidad-en-malvin-fiesta-que-termino-en-botellazos-y-piscina-en-la-calle-no-tenian-autorizacion-20181225135243
12:58 mircea_popescu that chick was ~so fucking hurt~ you couldn't believe.
~ 1 hours 41 minutes ~
14:40 mircea_popescu sometimes i think the ~only social product of females in this country is the yelling out of various names, sometimes interspersed with "venga" or something.
14:51 asciilifeform in other oddities and 'where on the net is this discussed? nowhere?', http://www.loper-os.org/pub/bolix/bolix_lamp_peek.jpg << old-fashioned 2layer pcbs are interestingly transparent to visible light. (obv. whole thing, aint, but give surprising amt of info otherwise not accessible )
14:53 asciilifeform http://www.loper-os.org/pub/bolix/bolix_chinesium_macro_test.jpg << 2nd peek from bolix torture room; chinesium macrolens testfire
14:54 asciilifeform ( the 'vertical' drams aint visible in flatbed, so therefore this )
14:54 asciilifeform possibly overkill, but i'm quite tired of 'oops, this 1 whisker aint visible in shitphoto, nao let's redo'
14:55 asciilifeform http://www.loper-os.org/pub/bolix/bolix_chinesium_macro_test_2.jpg << ditto.
14:55 asciilifeform the rest, will post when whole orchestra post.
14:57 * asciilifeform bbl,teatime
~ 26 minutes ~
15:24 diana_coman mircea_popescu, fixed the "whe" and thanks for the comment! Can you believe that summary is actually...5k words and a bit to spare too?
15:24 diana_coman from what I see in the paste you did not use "" for the links though?
15:25 diana_coman I'll try to recover it anyway
15:26 mircea_popescu "" ?
15:27 mircea_popescu oh wait, is the expected format <a href=""></a> rather than <a href=></a> ? (this'd be new to both the w3c and mp-wp_
15:28 diana_coman afaik it's always been <a href="felgjer">gjewpg</a> , no?
15:29 diana_coman in some parts you had "<a href=gwrg> gjw</a>" and in some parts no "" at all
15:29 diana_coman fixed now, seems to work fine
15:42 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> sometimes i think the ~only social product of females in this country is the yelling out of various names, sometimes interspersed with "venga" or something. << The retards here do "Vení" instead
~ 30 minutes ~
16:12 asciilifeform hmm, selections js thing dunwork for comments apparently
16:13 asciilifeform i'ma quote from the orig then:
16:14 asciilifeform http://ossasepia.com/2018/12/24/a-week-in-tmsr-10-16-december-2018/comment-page-1/#selection-95.505-95.623 << mircea_popescu is implication that this is an underhanded thing to do ? cuz i dun see any diff b/w trinque's wallet eating unsolicited coin for the glory of trinquedom, and asciilifeform swallowing unsolicited packets ( i.e. without valid customer ip as dest addr ) ditto
16:15 asciilifeform ( ftr nuffin interesting's shown up in the hopper of yet, possibly because BingoBoingo not yet gotten around to setting up the route )
16:19 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/SvW1o/?raw=true
16:20 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> hmm, selections js thing dunwork for comments apparently << Depends on how far the theme stretches the selectable area.
16:20 asciilifeform ty BingoBoingo
16:20 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: yea so i gather from reading the thing
16:20 * asciilifeform brb
~ 1 hours 25 minutes ~
17:45 asciilifeform in other noose, opensores photo 'stitchers' really suck.
17:46 asciilifeform ( even in most trivial case, flatbed with 0 distortion )
17:50 asciilifeform http://hugin.sourceforge.net for instance ( i dun even know of any serious alt- to the thing ) . author apparently is militantly retarded, thing feels free to cut pieces from the inputs moar or less randomly
17:56 asciilifeform the microscopists evidently use ~something~ other than this piece of shit.
17:56 asciilifeform if anybody knows ~what~, plox to write in.
18:02 asciilifeform i'ma share a pair of example inputs: http://www.nosuchlabs.com/pub/bolix/pic/ivory_bottom_a_super.jpg http://www.nosuchlabs.com/pub/bolix/pic/ivory_bottom_b_super.jpg (warning: 300MB! each!) .
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18:07 asciilifeform ( and , for completeness, a second, http://www.nosuchlabs.com/pub/bolix/pic/ivory_top_a_super.jpg , http://www.nosuchlabs.com/pub/bolix/pic/ivory_top_b_super.jpg , whynot . again ~300MB ea.! )
18:10 asciilifeform if there lives a hero who knows how to merge the 2cm of ugh that dun fit on the bed -- plox to write in. meanwhile i'ma attend to other items on conveyor.
18:13 * asciilifeform bbl,maffs room
18:19 amberglint hello everyone
18:19 lobbesbot amberglint: Sent 1 week, 2 days, 6 hours, and 46 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-16#1881109 << if you found the src, might be interesting , otherwise not imho esp. useful
18:19 amberglint asciilifeform: I'm not aware of alternatives, but maybe this advice from a microscopist will make Hugin useful: http://www.righto.com/2015/12/creating-high-resolution-integrated.html
18:19 amberglint btw, I was considering asking this microscopist if he wants to help you with the Ivory micrograph, but after the last attempt I'm not sure if it's a good idea
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18:21 amberglint http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-16#1881120 << unfortunately no src, I only have the binaries
18:21 a111 Logged on 2018-12-16 16:32 asciilifeform: !Q later tell amberglint http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-16#1881109 << if you found the src, might be interesting , otherwise not imho esp. useful
~ 50 minutes ~
19:12 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-25#1883039 << iirc i explained in prev thread: i have a veerry limited supply of samples. and so, i'd be willing to share 1 with a commercial lab, supposing i had with what to pay, or the proprietor were serious re 'pro bono'. but not so excited to give to some d00d who uses rust remover and layers,whatlayers, etc
19:12 a111 Logged on 2018-12-25 23:19 amberglint: btw, I was considering asking this microscopist if he wants to help you with the Ivory micrograph, but after the last attempt I'm not sure if it's a good idea
19:13 asciilifeform ( rust remover variant, i could do with ~own~ hands , whenever )
19:14 asciilifeform you wouldn't give stradivari to glue to some fella who maybe glued chair leg or 2 some time last yr.
19:20 asciilifeform 'ivory' aint much transistorwise by current-day measures, but at ~370,000 is slightly moar than its contemporary i386, and defo bigger than anyffing afaik that amateurs anywhere reversed to date.
19:22 asciilifeform ( e.g. 6502, had ~3.5k, z80 - ~8.5 )
19:23 asciilifeform density of 'ivory' is around 4x that of z80.
19:25 asciilifeform z80 of course not only costs fiddycents, but ~still made~ , and so has been photographed errywhere, prolly even in zimbabwe. whereas there's maybe 50 'ivory' remaining total.
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~ 1 hours 26 minutes ~
20:51 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i don't think it's underhanded in the sense i don't think underhanded means anything in the context. there's a very strict difference between the priviledged and the unpriviledged position, "only do those things specifically allowed" vs "do all things not specifically forbidden". while you'd expect a customer to only read mail addressed to him, it's iffy whether you expect the post office to read all mail it can
20:51 mircea_popescu 't route -- it all hinges on whether the post office is priviledged or not.
20:52 mircea_popescu in any case, the idea was that the thing neckbeards and assorted morons ("open source" or free ranged) MOST associate with "the bad" is merely a necessary function of a working system.
20:53 mircea_popescu much like the romanian morons imagined in the 80s they want to be "free", as opposed to "they want romanian industrial committments to better reflect their own personal committments [to irrelevancy, impotence and ultimately inexistence]".
20:53 asciilifeform aa
20:53 asciilifeform see i read 'how cia' and thought implies 'dirty trick'
20:54 mircea_popescu eventually someone has to do something about all the random piling up at the periphery. sad but true.
20:56 asciilifeform verily
20:58 asciilifeform the 'E' vs 'L' thing in http://ossasepia.com/2018/12/24/a-week-in-tmsr-10-16-december-2018/comment-page-1/ is interesting btw
20:58 asciilifeform there was an ancient heathen essay re subj, somewhere, in fact - but i've misplaced it
20:58 asciilifeform ( possibly the http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-01#1575661 item )
20:58 a111 Logged on 2016-12-01 17:51 phf: asciilifeform: it ~is~ the infamous mappers and packers thing, m&p is first chapter
20:59 mircea_popescu afaik it's new art ; but then again, novelty in this world.
21:00 asciilifeform iirc the terminology was diff but came quite close to discussion the actual concept
21:01 asciilifeform ( or even earlier , feynman had a 'some people do physics, others -- stamp collecting' thing )
21:02 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-25#1883039 << always a great idea. people ~should~ have ample opportunity to discover how insufficient, unimpressive, etcetera they are. i don't mean "fair" opportunity, ie, a 9mn% increase over what their environment currently provides. i mean fucking ample.
21:02 a111 Logged on 2018-12-25 23:19 amberglint: btw, I was considering asking this microscopist if he wants to help you with the Ivory micrograph, but after the last attempt I'm not sure if it's a good idea
21:03 mircea_popescu this is what the internet was even fucking sold as! "this'll be a place where every fucktarded murican, coolest-guy-in-his-town goes to find out he didn't even make the qualifying tops"
21:03 mircea_popescu let them do just that. "i know your wife thinks you're the best she could ever do, but truth be told a name's wasted on your dumb ass" is way the fuck more important, useful etcetera than whatever else they thought they were gonna do that evening.
21:04 mircea_popescu today's xmas and there's no contest. rest of the year...
21:07 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-26#1883049 << absolutely fucking not. "everywhere" ? are you fucking kidding me, reading university hasn't discovered the wonder of microphony, in 2018. i'm sure they had the (by then 20yo items) back in 1898, state of the art, too. but 120 years later... http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-05#1764531 and all that. costa ricans can't fucking merge, what "everywhere".
21:07 a111 Logged on 2018-12-26 00:25 asciilifeform: z80 of course not only costs fiddycents, but ~still made~ , and so has been photographed errywhere, prolly even in zimbabwe. whereas there's maybe 50 'ivory' remaining total.
21:07 a111 Logged on 2018-01-05 01:26 mircea_popescu: "oh, DO WE STILL HAVE TO DO THIS ?!?!?! IN 2018 ?!?! EPICYCLES ?!?!?". gimme a break, you can't light a fucking lightbulb.
21:10 asciilifeform well possibly not 'errywhere.' but in sov world defo.
21:10 mircea_popescu that's almost older than you.
21:11 asciilifeform possibly asciilifeform has distorted sense of time, but still thinks of it as 'recent'
21:11 asciilifeform perhaps cuz mentally stuck there
21:14 mircea_popescu meanwhile i don't even consider fettards delivered to this world in that same five year plan the "reforms" came.
21:14 mircea_popescu or in the next one.
~ 33 minutes ~
21:48 asciilifeform thinking moar re the 'sense of time' thing, i suspect that my clock stopped where ~anything last happened~. e.g. i'm posting from a 2009 comp.
21:48 asciilifeform ( and the only reason not from 2003 comp, was that i wanted moar bitness, back then, for address lines )
21:52 * asciilifeform 'moving backwards in time' technologically in other aspects also -- about to do some old-fashioned chemical b&w, for instance
21:52 asciilifeform 100 $ of largeformat b&w + enlarger beats shit out of 1000 $ of ccd...
21:53 asciilifeform ( possibly even out of 10,000 $ of ccd )
21:56 asciilifeform while on subj, i suspect that the pill for ye olde http://btcbase.org/log/2016-02-03#1394833 puzzler, if indeed one can exist, lies in some variation on chemical photography. ( observe that there is no known means of observing the latent image in silver nitrate without developing the film )
21:56 a111 Logged on 2016-02-03 01:53 asciilifeform: actually for many years i have thought about the ideal electric otp.
21:59 asciilifeform ( for instance, expose 2 overlapping films using spinthariscope. separate the films, and on each end extract pad bits via programmable lcd diffraction grate, where each grate pattern is determined by output of prev. )
22:00 asciilifeform 1 frame of ye olde 35mm potentially carries coupla 100MB of pad.
22:00 asciilifeform cost : ~1cent.
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