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00:17 asciilifeform i suspect that most of what's in mine, would be of very little help to folx who hadn't spent past 20y getting musclememoried to it
00:17 asciilifeform maybe 10% or so, worth publishing/vtreeing
00:17 asciilifeform ( supposing we even want to perpetuate emacsism... )
00:20 asciilifeform good chunk of it, has obvious, screaming dysfunctions that i never found satisfactory cures for, and learned to live with.
00:20 mircea_popescu this conversation is starting to veer most dildoesque.
00:20 asciilifeform really not a work of high art that asciilifeform is particularly proud of.
00:21 asciilifeform lol
00:21 asciilifeform i was thinking moar along the lines of prosthetic limbs
00:21 asciilifeform but dildo, wainot.
00:21 mircea_popescu if not prosthetic limb, what is a dildo.
00:24 asciilifeform possibly it is actually better to teach small children to smoke, than to teach new people emacs.
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04:20 spyked http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-30#1819960 <-- dunno why I was convinced that they go up to 4GB. would be quite disappointing otherwise, yes. /me is waiting for official release.
04:20 a111 Logged on 2018-05-30 21:18 asciilifeform: spyked: 1G of ram. weak.
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05:03 ave1 spyked, one module has a 4GB eMMC flash
05:07 spyked hm. yes, that might have been what got me confused
05:17 spyked dun dun dun
05:20 ave1 the bot is using a list of OTPs?
05:32 spyked ave1, yep. the process is not refined yet (getting the encrypted OTPs from deedbot is a tad irksome, gotta sift through cl-irc messages), but getting there.
05:44 ave1 very cool
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06:04 spyked hm. this extra +v wasn't supposed to occur. brb.
06:08 spyked apologies again for the noise. should be alright now.
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09:51 asciilifeform BreakingRae -> unbrokenRae -> UnbreakableRae -> unbrokenRae << lol
10:03 mod6 mornin
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10:49 asciilifeform ohai mod6
10:56 BingoBoingo Buenos dias
10:56 asciilifeform hola BingoBoingo
10:56 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: didja find a usable flat ?
10:56 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Found a strong candidate
10:57 asciilifeform neato
10:57 asciilifeform haggling over price nao ?
10:57 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Herding Latinos to determine what exactly needs to be done to who
11:00 asciilifeform aa
11:00 mod6 ah, cool
11:01 asciilifeform in other potential finds, https://irclog.whitequark.org/linux-rockchip/2018-05-03 << d00d claims to have clean uboot for c101pa . no complete srcball posted tho, as far as i was able to find, yet
11:02 asciilifeform or possibly i misread and it was the easier c201.
11:02 asciilifeform but theoretically should port, same chipset.
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11:28 mircea_popescu i'll be visiting a radio-dark zone today, so cya all tomorrow!
11:29 BingoBoingo Enjoy
11:33 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: give my regards to the ocelots
11:48 asciilifeform in other noose, unmodified pizarro pilotplant rootfs ( as published in http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2295 and to rc customers ) boots ( with, for the time being , heathen kernel ) on cp101pa .
11:48 asciilifeform phf ^
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12:21 asciilifeform http://btcinfo.sdf.org/blog/adios-o-la-bifurcacion.html << in other noose.
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12:41 asciilifeform !!up timella
12:41 deedbot timella voiced for 30 minutes.
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14:10 lobbes shinohai embarking on man-alone adventures eh?
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14:27 asciilifeform lobbes: imho better like this ( or for that matter, like, e.g., cazalla , in the past ) than to silently vanish
14:28 asciilifeform until/unless d00d is found to be consorting with enemy or whatever misdeed -- i recommend to see his retirement as a honourable discharge.
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14:53 trinque it'd be pointlessly wasteful to say falling out of lordship is the end of all productive life.
14:54 mod6 agree
14:55 mod6 One does not require lordship to mearly participate.
14:56 trinque esthlos here just cranked out a mighty fine vtron without a fancy hat
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15:17 ben_vulpes !!deed http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/2TGf0/?raw=true
15:17 deedbot accepted: 1
15:18 lobbes asciilifeform: Ftr, my original !!unrate of shinohai was reflective of the fact that I could not at the time discern if he was coming/going/passive-aggressively-whatevering. When I return to my key I'll rate the guy positively as this satisfies my earlier stated criteria of "there are ways to gracefully exit while preserving reputation"
15:19 lobbes And indeed, as per that trilema, titles (i.e. lordship) are merely pointers for convenience
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16:15 deedbot http://deedbot.org/bundle-525331.txt
16:25 diana_coman shinohai's blog looks slick and I wish him all the best but his post reads to me as a full-blown collection of strawmen (what "consensus decided"? what is "official reason given" even supposed to mean exactly? etc); at most I can read it as a mistaken "if not a lord then not a member either" but an honest mistake is just about the most positive reading I can do of that thing
16:26 diana_coman !!rated shinohai
16:26 deedbot diana_coman rated shinohai 1 at 2016/09/03 22:20:37 << Held many euloran noob hands.
16:27 diana_coman that much is certainly true so my rating stands as it is
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17:18 deedbot http://qntra.net/2018/05/populists-thwart-italian-president-candidate-for-finance-minister-found-who-hasnt-talk-about-leaving-eurozone-yet/ << Qntra - Populists Thwart Italian President Candidate For Finance Minister Found Who Hasn't Talk About Leaving Eurozone Yet
17:32 ben_vulpes BingoBoingo: talk -> talked ?
17:33 BingoBoingo ty fxd
17:39 phf http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-31#1819989 << i believe the only piece of "naggum emacs" that was available at any point is his patches against emacs 20 to remove MULE (and maybe also provide his own, unicode based alternative)
17:39 a111 Logged on 2018-05-31 03:22 esthlos: might as well ask: do you have a copy of naggum's emacs?
17:40 phf i remember seeing the archive.org version of the relevant page, but i think the correspond tar.gz was not in archive, and i gave up tryin to track it down
17:41 phf http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-31#1820052 << ah ty, is that boots, or with video/wifi/suspend?
17:41 a111 Logged on 2018-05-31 15:48 asciilifeform: in other noose, unmodified pizarro pilotplant rootfs ( as published in http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2295 and to rc customers ) boots ( with, for the time being , heathen kernel ) on cp101pa .
17:44 phf http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-29#1819488 << i vaguelly suspect that's something i need to do, but i don't know if i'm willing to go through the whole song and dance with american medical professionals (tm) to extract the medication out of them. might be easier to wait till my next trip to russia..
17:44 a111 Logged on 2018-05-29 16:28 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-29#1819451 << and if not, try antibiotics.
17:58 asciilifeform phf: do what errybody else does, veterinary pharma.
18:00 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-31#1820079 << currently, simply boots ( and runs, sans networking, but userland - gcc etc. -- work, and can emerge proggies from heathenos under chroot. ) the remaining iron is expected to work once i get a patched kernel (with baked-in mods) built.
18:00 a111 Logged on 2018-05-31 21:41 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-31#1820052 << ah ty, is that boots, or with video/wifi/suspend?
18:00 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-31#1820076 << supposing one could count it as part of emacs -- naggum's oddball kbd mappings are also known
18:00 a111 Logged on 2018-05-31 21:39 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-31#1819989 << i believe the only piece of "naggum emacs" that was available at any point is his patches against emacs 20 to remove MULE (and maybe also provide his own, unicode based alternative)
18:00 asciilifeform but afaik that's all.
18:00 asciilifeform the rest -- presumably went down with the ship.
18:15 phf right after his death his "estate" posted that the archives of naggum's work will be published "soon", outcome not surprising. i suspect somebody illiterate saw magic runes, decided that sits on lead to gold technology, "to be monetized when i retire"
18:16 asciilifeform phf: moar likely, some combo of simply leaving to gather dust, and throwing out
18:16 asciilifeform same thing that happens to most dead folx.
18:17 asciilifeform whatever the debt collectors didn't take.
18:19 phf there are bits and pieces of code in the usenet, i actually use one of naggum's functions extensively: https://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3115568738543631@naggum.no.html
18:20 phf (it's all the way in the end/signature)
18:20 asciilifeform incidentally phf , the keeper of ^ archive never answered asciilifeform's mail re providing a copy. so really oughta scrape it before it evaporates.
18:21 phf you mean copy of his renderer, or the original usenet messages?
18:21 asciilifeform messages. tho the renderer would be nice also.
18:21 asciilifeform can't exactly scrape the renderer tho.
18:21 phf http://data.xach.com.s3.amazonaws.com/cll.txt.gz http://data.xach.com.s3.amazonaws.com/naggum-articles.tgz
18:21 asciilifeform oh ha i missed this
18:22 asciilifeform ty phf
18:22 asciilifeform ( where was this originally linked ? )
18:22 phf https://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/notes.html
18:22 asciilifeform somehow i missed.
18:23 phf he also describes a nifty indexing strategy on same page, that i was thinking of using for logs even (very early on)
18:25 phf (to clarify it's completely useless for logs, for obvious reasons, but it was so simple and lispy i thought it can be modified somehow)
18:25 asciilifeform something like what he describes, is unavoidable when data set gets to weigh enough, if you still want reasonable search times
18:26 asciilifeform kinda why phuctor doesn't have an arbitrary string search
18:26 asciilifeform ( i elementarily haven't the memory to make this work reasonably )
18:27 phf right, the approach is sort of one step removed from naive brute force, and now you're paying with extra memory for the index
18:27 * phf afk
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19:53 asciilifeform in other... useful... links: http://natribu.org/en/ << multilingual!
19:56 danielpbarron !!v D814418CC2C6E0514157B897F842E5B34F765CA9C18DFE91A0E5133F339D63C0
19:57 danielpbarron trinque, what am i doing wrong? ^
19:58 trinque how bout a little more context there bud
19:59 danielpbarron trying to !!pay someone
19:59 trinque probably had the parameters reversed
20:00 danielpbarron it's pay nick amount ? no?
20:04 danielpbarron aha figured it out
20:04 danielpbarron caps matter on usernames
20:04 trinque correct
20:05 asciilifeform trinque: out of curiosity, why ? ( any derp can register, e.g., Trinque, or Mircea_Popescu ? what's the point of permitting this..? )
20:06 mod6 Lords and Ladies of The Most Serene Republic, The Bitcoin Foundation presents The State of Bitcoin Address : http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2018-June/000301.html
20:07 trinque !!gettrust DeeDboT AsCIIliFEforM
20:07 deedbot L1: 1, L2: 10 by 10 connections.
20:07 trinque asciilifeform: ^ it's just a wallet thing I haven't fixed yet
20:07 asciilifeform ah hm so not case-sensitive after all ?
20:07 asciilifeform aaaok
20:21 deedbot http://qntra.net/2018/06/qntra-s-qntr-may-2018-report/ << Qntra - Qntra (S.QNTR) May 2018 Report
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21:17 lobbes http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-5-31#366191 << You know, I was still going to rate you positively on the basis of your service to the republic, but then I thought "why?". You decide that on your way out the door you'll try and casually attack my reputation on the basis of... what exactly? Yeah, I made those comments. But then I sat, thought, came to my senses, left kako to rot, joined #t, built an auction bot, built an archive process, lea
21:17 mimisbrunnr Logged on 2018-05-31 19:07 shinohai: As for lobbes, I care little for your ratings or whatever other thoughts you may harbor - I haven't forgotten that < 2 years ago you said http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=27-05-2016#1449250 and http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-05-2016#1449253, which indicates to me you are little more than a yeasayer. I can find your type on reddit all day long.
21:17 lobbes rned basics of v operation, stood up a trb node, and I don't plan to stop there. So what's your point?
21:17 lobbes I don't even care for your point at this point. AdiĆ³s anciana, I hope you rot in heathendom.
21:17 lobbes !!v 9ABCFB3816A72BF7F6C61014C660C88AD19E93C9337A1DF9CEE6B11174AE7ED9
21:17 deedbot lobbes rated shinohai -2 << old woman. See also: http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=from%3Alobbes+rot+in+heathendom
21:17 * lobbes back to work
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21:53 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-01#1820132 << lol, i missed this !
21:53 a111 Logged on 2018-06-01 01:17 mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-05-31 19:07 shinohai: As for lobbes, I care little for your ratings or whatever other thoughts you may harbor - I haven't forgotten that < 2 years ago you said http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=27-05-2016#1449250 and http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-05-2016#1449253, which indicates to me you are little more than a yeasayer. I can find your type on reddit all day long.
21:55 asciilifeform to continue on this occasion the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-04#1809296 culture lesson thread : the 'i silently hated you for 2y' thing , was called 'to be a snake', i.e. 'coil up for long time and much later bite', and is a sin.
21:55 a111 Logged on 2018-05-04 17:02 asciilifeform: in ru prison argot, this is also called 'to be a mouse', and is seen as equally damning as 'to be a rat' ( steal from one's fellows , rather than the engl meaning of snitch )
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