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01:00 mircea_popescu aha.
01:07 mircea_popescu turns out there's no actual reads worth the mention online.
01:18 ben_vulpes !~ticker --market all
01:19 ben_vulpes !!up jhvh1
01:19 deedbot jhvh1 voiced for 30 minutes.
01:19 ben_vulpes !~ticker --market all
~ 17 minutes ~
01:36 ben_vulpes jurov: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/7YpUV/?raw=true
01:39 ben_vulpes jurov aaaalso http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/2TGf0/?raw=true
~ 3 hours 43 minutes ~
05:22 spyked http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-29#1819346 <-- funnily enough, one of the first (at least AFAIK) pointedly american pieces seen on tv in romania was promoted by http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-25#1728889 in its first year of existence, "die hard" w/bruce willis. they still air it every year in december. this completely ignoring the fact that romanians had their very own diehard-mcclane since the '70s, i.e. comisarul moldovan.
05:22 a111 Logged on 2018-05-29 00:58 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-27#1819266 << the shoemaker's favourite tv , allegedly
05:22 a111 Logged on 2017-10-25 18:27 mircea_popescu: anyway, to revisit the matter of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-25#1728843 : adrian sirbu, possibly the only romanian to have done anything since 1989 (he created the deliberate usg tool Pro Tv in 1995, a media company whose wikipedia page no longer mentions him -- very much a successful equivalent of the failed http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-05#1666048), has recently been accused of... you'll guess this not ? TERRORISM!
~ 2 hours 48 minutes ~
08:10 diana_coman esthlos, "is expected to read and understood before use" -> to read and understand the code?
08:11 diana_coman good work though, I'll give it a go
~ 2 hours 16 minutes ~
10:28 deedbot http://qntra.net/2018/05/outage-after-english-leader-sentenced-to-13-months-and-british-court-orders-media-blackout-cowardly-mainstream-publications-including-breitbart-withdrew-articles/ << Qntra - Outage After English Leader Sentenced To 13 Months And British Court Orders Media Blackout Cowardly Mainstream Publications Including Breitbart Withdrew Articles
10:32 mod6 mornin' TMSR~
10:41 BingoBoingo In local developments and Appification: https://www.elobservador.com.uy/una-guerrilla-nuevos-deliveries-montevideo-n1236034
10:51 spyked !!v 9E6F6B0FFA445BA0C5E02758B2BE677459BB0045720B2B45D1AC8CFB31A1E780
10:51 deedbot spyked rated spykedbot 1 << spyked's botworks playground
10:52 spyked ^ apologies in advance for any noise this little bugger may make.
10:53 trinque spyked: should I turn off deedbot RSS?
10:56 spyked trinque, no, the bot doesn't do anything yet. but there'll be likely some join/part spam. and I'm also wondering whether it should try to self-voice when it gets a -v
10:58 spyked but I will rebase the rss bot on top of this afterwards and I'll ping you right before I bring rss in-chan.
~ 16 minutes ~
11:14 asciilifeform !Q later tell ave1 your newest tarball barfs : http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/5FS6l/?raw=true << gmp demands a patch that can't be found, hangs with prompt
11:14 lobbesbot asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
11:19 asciilifeform in other lulz, via BingoBoingo's links, 'The Daily Stormer is being sued by Jewish terrorists. In order to survive, we need shekels. Send BTC or XMR. This site will be shut down if we don’t win this.'
11:19 asciilifeform ( if anyone forgot -- this is the weev crackpottery, that somehow oh-we-must-use-dns etc )
11:21 asciilifeform wtf is xmr anyway.
11:22 asciilifeform !#s xmr
11:22 a111 33 results for "xmr", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=xmr
11:22 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: XMR is the "ring signature" thing fluffypony defected to
11:22 asciilifeform ah lol that
11:23 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: iirc he perpetrated it, not simply 'defected to'
11:23 BingoBoingo That part is opaque
11:24 asciilifeform troo, more or less all usg scamola has a designated 'author' who, however, even if wired to the mains cannot give an arithmetically consistent statement of how it works
11:26 asciilifeform ( last time i bothered to look, it was also a sort of final refuge of botnet artists, being one of the few major shitcoins that has not yet been raped by chinese asic makers )
11:28 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-30#1819745 << >> http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-24#1703064
11:28 a111 Logged on 2018-05-30 09:22 spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-29#1819346 <-- funnily enough, one of the first (at least AFAIK) pointedly american pieces seen on tv in romania was promoted by http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-25#1728889 in its first year of existence, "die hard" w/bruce willis. they still air it every year in december. this completely ignoring the fact that romanians had their very own diehard-mcclane since the '70s, i.e. comisarul moldovan.
11:28 a111 Logged on 2017-08-24 17:24 asciilifeform: e.g. film 'diehard' ended up translated by one 'genius' to title 'умри тяжело'
11:31 asciilifeform !#seen fluffypony
11:31 a111 2016-03-24 <fluffypony> otherwise you learn nothing and you're forever forced to wallow in your own ignorance
11:43 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-03-05#1422814 << the , imho, revealing thread with subj.
11:43 a111 Logged on 2016-03-05 19:12 asciilifeform: fluffypony: solve how ?
11:57 trinque spyked: kk
~ 20 minutes ~
12:17 trinque !!v 9BCF81FBDBB069DE56DE9F721D8EE148E2B7584076BDA1F51CA07D4CAAAEC063
12:17 deedbot trinque paid ben_vulpes invoice 7
12:17 trinque !!v 1F6B436B038BCE18F364C4290E4CAAD32ED33BAFA9F7DA3831E31ABA30AB7118
12:17 deedbot trinque paid ben_vulpes invoice 8
~ 28 minutes ~
12:46 mircea_popescu spyked, not ignoring ; replacing. THAT is why diehard, otherwise who the fuck cares.
12:46 mircea_popescu "ax handle"
12:48 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo, holy shit, these morons. "oh we just want to get along". WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU HERE.
12:58 mircea_popescu asciilifeform, no, have not forgot. http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1756992 <<->> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-30#1819761 ; but somehow FORGOT the part where he comes here, explains he's been stupid and why and wherefore. much like ers is STILL to face the dysfunctional idiocy of his collaboration.
12:58 a111 Logged on 2017-12-22 17:18 weevlos: trinque: we are a media publication. our power and capital comes from the number of visitors we have to the site. we aim to transform through culture. if normal people cannot visit our site we are not accomplishing our goal
12:58 a111 Logged on 2018-05-30 15:19 asciilifeform: in other lulz, via BingoBoingo's links, 'The Daily Stormer is being sued by Jewish terrorists. In order to survive, we need shekels. Send BTC or XMR. This site will be shut down if we don’t win this.'
12:58 mircea_popescu being retarded has, over being THIS fucking stupid, the serious advantage of 50 or so IQ points.
12:58 mircea_popescu most people don't amount to much in this life ; but to manage to amount to ~ a negative value ~ it really fucking takes some negative IQ.
13:00 asciilifeform derp swallowed 'headcountism', all else follows, neh.
13:00 asciilifeform 'if normal people cannot visit our site we are not accomplishing our goal' etc.
13:01 mircea_popescu AND THEN DID NOT ACCOMPLISH GOAL.
13:02 mircea_popescu but yes, it is strictyly incorrect to measure IQ as a natural number. IQ is in R, and is defined as IQ = results ^ -1/(resources-results).
13:02 asciilifeform i find it a puzzler, what the cartoon these folx are watching inside their heads, even ~is~. (e.g. it ain't as if, say, lenin, 'accomplished' by 'normal people visiting')
13:02 asciilifeform what's the intended model.
13:03 mircea_popescu actually myeah, that's not corect.
13:03 asciilifeform results / resources
13:03 mircea_popescu asciilifeform : if results are negative, iq is a negative exponential the result- resource disparity ; if results are positive, iq is a positive logarithmic of same disparity.
13:03 asciilifeform ( oblig : http://www.loper-os.org/?p=405 ! )
13:04 mircea_popescu ie, if resources are 10, result of 1000 means iq of 10 ; result of 10mn means iq of 1k. result of -1 means iq of -100 and result of -10 means iq of -1k
13:05 mircea_popescu the iq this defined ~just abou sums~, meaning if a group of 101 peeps contains 100 ppl of iq 10 and one guy of -1k iq, the group net result will be 0.
13:06 mircea_popescu ("the net result of the group's activity")
13:09 spyked mircea_popescu, may be. but then I have no idea why mediapro filmed the last (bestest etc., according to them) movie in the series in 2008. musta been an attempt at revival.
13:12 mircea_popescu you still don't understand how stealing the having been stolen from works, huh.
13:13 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo, no, dude came to #b-a to see what's being said re monero / what can be used by monero / whatever. finger on pulse. the meet-up was http://trilema.com/2014/fuck-me-fuck-you/
13:15 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-30#1819770 << in this case, inexplicably enough refused to, http://btcbase.org/log/2014-09-09#823434 http://btcbase.org/log/2014-10-02#855842
13:15 a111 Logged on 2018-05-30 15:24 asciilifeform: troo, more or less all usg scamola has a designated 'author' who, however, even if wired to the mains cannot give an arithmetically consistent statement of how it works
13:15 a111 Logged on 2014-09-09 14:10 mircea_popescu: hey fluffypony do you plan to eventually sell the monero idea here once it reaches some sort of maturity or do you just plan to wait indefinitely for b-a to figure it out ?
13:15 a111 Logged on 2014-10-02 21:28 mircea_popescu: davidlatapie i have nfi idea what monero is because in spite of being invited fluffypony doesn't want to give the group a presentation. the comment is just as to the improbable nature of the name. why mew and what's someone not in on the jokes to make of it.
13:16 mircea_popescu by now this "won't do what mp says do" is such a bell...
13:16 asciilifeform see linked thread, d00d tapped out at 'go read paper', when asciilifeform:'yes i read paper, now say how ring sig doesn't slowly leak' and fluffypony:'[various squid ink]'
13:19 mircea_popescu that being the alternative available explanation, not that i credit it. "oh, it's too hard to explain to these people wtf, i'd rather just doodle".
13:20 asciilifeform he seemed puzzled by the very idea of an audience that demands an explanation of mechanism.
13:20 asciilifeform 'redditus loads up on doge without any such explanations; so why not these folk also' i suspect was it.
13:26 asciilifeform at any rate, in so far as i can tell 'monero' is simply 1 of 3 or 4 tor-style honeypots for the dimwitted 'death ray plot' candidates in the shitcoin space.
13:27 asciilifeform ( the others being the z-whatevers, 2 of'em and i can't recall how they differed, the one with 'z-snark' and other other, with the magical rng seed)
13:34 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-19#1658941 << in related vintagelulz.
13:34 a111 Logged on 2017-05-19 02:04 asciilifeform: '2017-02-21: The patch is surreptitiously snuck into the Monero codebase in pull request #1744. It is kept secret to prevent it being used to attack other CryptoNote coins.'
13:35 spyked mircea_popescu, aha, nao I get it! --> http://trilema.com/2017/a-story-about-romania-thats-totally-not-about-anything-else/#footnote_3_73978
~ 24 minutes ~
14:00 mircea_popescu spyked, first, you give injuns plastic beads, "just like" their bone beads. THEN you install "american bone bead factory". logix.
~ 27 minutes ~
14:27 ave1 asciilifeform, I'm sorry for this. I ran the build multiple times so I'm not sure how the patch found it's way into the last release. Fix is on it's way. (fix is to remove the patch, gmp-4.3.2-2.musl.diff from the patches directory)
14:27 lobbesbot ave1: Sent 3 hours and 12 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> your newest tarball barfs : http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/5FS6l/?raw=true << gmp demands a patch that can't be found, hangs with prompt
14:27 ave1 re, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-30#1819759
14:27 a111 Logged on 2018-05-30 15:14 asciilifeform: !Q later tell ave1 your newest tarball barfs : http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/5FS6l/?raw=true << gmp demands a patch that can't be found, hangs with prompt
14:28 asciilifeform ave1: you wouldn't be the first to tar up wrong dir for a release, lol
14:28 asciilifeform ave1: lemme know when you got the real deal ready for test.
14:29 ave1 Yes, will do!
14:29 * asciilifeform itches to supply folx with ready-to-eat gnat-on-rockchip, both on pizarro cluster and in the flensed c101pa box
14:29 ave1 I'll also post the resulting ada aarch64 compiler
14:29 asciilifeform ave1: that's specifically the item i'm interested in.
14:29 asciilifeform ( musl-outputting amd64 also, however )
14:30 ave1 K, build takes a while on my aarch64,
14:30 asciilifeform iirc diana_coman is waiting for the amd64 one.
14:31 ave1 the previous release does work, but needs -static flag at all times
14:31 ave1 the new one does not need that anymore (always static)
14:31 asciilifeform what do you mean, 'does work', it didn't produce anything i can run on arm64
14:32 asciilifeform ( nobody, presently, has a multronic gentoo for arm, so the dynamic-musl thing was 100% junk )
14:33 ave1 Yes, so in this version I changed the config of gcc so that it only and always produces static
14:33 asciilifeform ok, but it barfed during patching, ~2 seconds into build.
14:34 asciilifeform ave1: plz say specifically , what this builder will output ( what types of gnats? listed by 'runs on X' and 'builds Y-type executables' )
14:35 asciilifeform what's needed is : 1) runs-on-amd64-of-any-kind-builds-static-musl-for-amd64 2) runs-on-arm64-of-any-type-builds-static-musl-for-arm64
14:35 ave1 On AMD64 it will create 4 compilers; 1 bogus cross for amd64->amd64, 1 normal that runs on amd64 and creates amd64
14:35 ave1 1 cross for amd64->aarch64
14:35 asciilifeform right, unavoidable byproduct
14:35 ave1 1 normal that runs on aarch64 and creates aarch64
14:36 asciilifeform that last one, is what was broken in last build
14:36 asciilifeform it demanded a musltronic linux to run on
14:36 ave1 The script can also run on aarch64 with that last one
14:36 ave1 Yes, I know, should be fixed now
14:36 asciilifeform ok
14:37 ave1 On aarch64 it creates the last 2, for some reason (might be not enough memory on my aarch64) I could not get it to produce a aarch64->amd64 compiler
14:38 asciilifeform ave1: out of curiosity, what machine were you building on ?
14:39 ave1 I build that one on qemu (for further development I ordered an A64 from olimex, but the one I want is still out of stock)
14:39 asciilifeform aa if qemu, simply give it moar ram ?
14:40 ave1 Yes, but the machine the qemu runs on is also almost out
14:40 ave1 After release of this I'll try
14:42 asciilifeform once gnat-for-X builds gnat-for-Y , for all interesting values of X and Y, can declare victory.
14:43 * asciilifeform is also interested in a mips gnat, but will prolly end up doing this himself as a mod of ave1's script, later
14:44 asciilifeform ^ bare iron mips, specifically, rather than linux-
14:47 asciilifeform !Q later tell trinque didja ever succeed in getting a ppc64 gnat ?
14:47 lobbesbot asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
14:47 asciilifeform ( anybody else here with oddball archs ? )
14:48 asciilifeform ... sparc ?
14:49 asciilifeform then of course there is the 'holy grail', a cross-gnat for msdos.
14:49 asciilifeform supposedly this even existed at one time, based ob djgpp, but asciilifeform was never able to turn up a working copy.
14:49 asciilifeform *based on
14:50 asciilifeform ( i dun expect to see a full adult gnat ~on~ msdos; but to cross-compile a la nintendo, would satisfy this one )
15:00 ave1 the script can build a ppc64 little endian gcc cross compiler (I tried this a while ago, I'll have to do that again with the current state of the script)
15:00 * trinque has not used ^ and never finished building his own
15:00 lobbesbot trinque: Sent 13 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> didja ever succeed in getting a ppc64 gnat ?
15:00 asciilifeform aa ok
15:00 * asciilifeform does not presently have a ppc64 to try on
15:02 trinque while on the subj of gcc, it would be very nice to get ave1's version in as the default gcc on cuntoo.
15:02 asciilifeform really oughta be the default, aha
15:03 asciilifeform ( for n00bz -- gnat is superset of 'normal' gcc )
15:03 trinque and down the line I'd be thrilled to get reproducible build patches for it.
15:03 trinque https://wiki.debian.org/ReproducibleBuilds/ExperimentalToolchain << this has apparently evaporated.
15:03 asciilifeform trinque: ave1's whole orchestra is just that, a reproducible musltronic gnat
15:03 trinque I mean reproducible bins for same source
15:04 asciilifeform or at least will be, once we find and kill with fire whatever turd it is in gcc that shits current unix time into the bin
15:04 asciilifeform right
15:04 trinque awesome.
15:07 mircea_popescu its such a pleasure, reading these logs.
15:07 asciilifeform ( recall good ol' msdos dayz, back when 'reproducible bin for same src' was something you got from ANY and EVERY compiler, and wtf, how to even conceive of having this problem )
15:08 mircea_popescu 'oh look, the news." "mmmkay. so... did anything good/useful/cool happen today ?" "i dunno, let's check #trilema"
15:08 asciilifeform ( nor was 'dynamic linking' a thing at all )
15:08 mircea_popescu asciilifeform, oh, i recall. except weren't days of ms-dos, were days of dos and ms was barking at the edges to be let in.
15:09 asciilifeform well 'msdos' was ms- in same way as bsd is crapple, aha.
15:09 asciilifeform ( swallowed whole and largely undigested stone inside whale )
15:10 mircea_popescu ie, in the way "tech geniuses" of the empire genius their genius : stolen item with serials shaved off, or as it's known nowadays, "the black clock". http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-30#1806616
15:10 a111 Logged on 2018-04-30 18:06 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-30#1806515 << recall the black genius kid who made a clock out of "household materials" such as... a clock ?
15:10 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: or those misfortunate roman mosaics, etc
15:11 asciilifeform ( iirc mircea_popescu had a piece where 'barbarian cloinks with his hammer...' )
15:11 mircea_popescu for a while in the early 90s one could see local tinboxes with say mercedes wheel cover glued/wired to the hood.
15:12 mircea_popescu (not taped, tape still alien tech in 90s east)
15:12 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-30#1819882 << i'll bet you it's the "absolutely must have" dns resolver.
15:12 a111 Logged on 2018-05-30 19:04 asciilifeform: or at least will be, once we find and kill with fire whatever turd it is in gcc that shits current unix time into the bin
15:15 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: re mercedes wheels to glue : behold! >>> http://www.loper-os.org/pub/mvd_market.jpg
15:15 asciilifeform i was puzzled re wtf all of that was for. now apparerently mircea_popescu has the key.
15:15 mircea_popescu ehehe yep.
15:15 mircea_popescu existed in tm too, holdout from the 90s. i dunno if we visited or no time
15:15 asciilifeform ( pictured : typical market carpet in BingoBoingostan sunday market. hood ornaments, wheels, you name it. )
15:19 asciilifeform aaactually...
15:20 asciilifeform 1s
15:23 asciilifeform http://www.loper-os.org/pub/timis17/timis_gypsies_1.jpg http://www.loper-os.org/pub/timis17/timis_gypsies_2.jpg http://www.loper-os.org/pub/timis17/timis_gypsies_3.jpg http://www.loper-os.org/pub/timis17/timis_gypsies_4.jpg http://www.loper-os.org/pub/timis17/timis_gypsies_5.jpg
15:23 asciilifeform ^ timis '17, for comparison.
15:23 mircea_popescu aha there we go
15:23 asciilifeform BingoBoingo ^ might find lulzy.
15:24 BingoBoingo HOLY SHIT! The gypos are darker than the "Latino" Uruguayos
15:25 mircea_popescu l;ol
15:25 asciilifeform btw , in #5 , for extra lulzpoints, << КР140УД5 >> http://www.chipinfo.ru/dsheets/ic/140/ud5.html
15:26 asciilifeform su op amp.
15:26 BingoBoingo And what technology! Is that a plastic tarp?
15:26 asciilifeform certainly not a stone tarp lol
15:27 ben_vulpes and in other "we could never shoot a cop!"s https://pdxbillboardproject.com/
15:29 mircea_popescu dun load.
15:29 asciilifeform loads here but is deeply hermetic ameritard rubbish, asciilifeform currently can't be arsed to decode
15:30 asciilifeform ben_vulpes can summarize if he feels like.
15:30 ben_vulpes "PORTLAND...IS YOUR WHITE FRAGILITY SHOWING?"
15:30 ben_vulpes the splintering and setting of the electorate at itself continues apace.
15:31 asciilifeform BingoBoingo what didja think gypsies looked like.
15:32 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: A sort of Italianish pseudo-white folk.
15:33 * asciilifeform regrets not having bought the hdd's, betcha they were fulla lul
15:34 asciilifeform tho who knows how many, after N times of dumping into and out of the crate with rusty chainsaws, wrenches, etc, still ran
15:34 asciilifeform them gypsies gotta get with the times, start stealing ssds!111
15:36 asciilifeform also ftr they loudly curse when you photo'em but do not rise to fists.
15:36 ben_vulpes who knew hdds had souls
15:37 BingoBoingo Awe, the Uruguayos just mumblespeak when you photo them.
15:39 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-30#1819898 << it is absent in musl
15:39 a111 Logged on 2018-05-30 19:12 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-30#1819882 << i'll bet you it's the "absolutely must have" dns resolver.
15:39 asciilifeform sorta how asciilifeform even came to musl to begin with.
15:39 mircea_popescu hm.
15:40 asciilifeform musltronic static elf does seem to contain ~something~ that varies; looks to be the right size for timestamp turd. definitely on the conveyor.
15:41 asciilifeform ( time + gcc ver, iirc )
15:41 asciilifeform who thought this was a good idea, and why, i will leave as exercise for readers.
15:45 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: didja catch the related lul, where all of 'starbucks' ( amer. burned/ersatz coffee chain ) was 'voluntarily' closed for entire day, to atone for some clerk somewhere having thrown out black bum
15:46 ben_vulpes yeah righteous lolz
15:47 ben_vulpes complete with "gtfo, this won't change anything" from the normal blm suspects
15:47 ben_vulpes "of course, nothing's going to change until you start shooting cops"
15:47 asciilifeform https://archive.li/UpACF << subj
15:47 BingoBoingo AHA, Starbucks is getting into the homeless shelter business now!
15:48 ben_vulpes BingoBoingo: mcdonalds still wins on kcal/shitbuck
15:48 asciilifeform the related phunphakt, is that 1) shitbux is publicly traded 2) incident made ~no visible ding on the price
15:50 asciilifeform ( how did asciilifeform find out ? happened to walk by a door of a shitbux, there was an actual printed mea culpa affixed to the door ! )
15:50 ben_vulpes i wonder how many days of atonement they'd have to buy before the slippage showed up
15:50 asciilifeform why would it show up in the http://btcbase.org/log/2015-07-08#1193376 'markets' , lol
15:50 a111 Logged on 2015-07-08 17:08 mircea_popescu: mod6 "our free market is this thing you can only buy!!1"
15:50 ben_vulpes someone call the impact investors: for every XX dollars you bid up the starbucks stock, we'll take a day off to self-flagellate!
15:51 ben_vulpes social benefit!
15:53 mircea_popescu asciilifeform, "publicly" traded. it's gox-traded.
16:05 asciilifeform like erry other ameristock lol
16:06 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-23#1470731 in similar lulz.
16:06 a111 Logged on 2016-05-23 14:58 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform recall the thread about the ICBC that's about as large as the sum total of us banks yet trades in ny on the pink sheets ?
16:06 mircea_popescu "oh, this here pile of paper IS WORTH MORE THAN RUSSIA. oh that there item larger than russia is NOT WORTH ANYTHING!!!! hurr!!! MARKET!!!"
~ 47 minutes ~
16:53 mod6 Elliot's scraps of various colored paper with all sorts of flicks-of-the-pen (and many zeros!) are not compatible with the immutable machine. And thus, will not be honored.
17:05 spyked http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-30#1819855 <-- same here. and from what I understand, they're also planning to launch a RK3328-based board soon (announcement: https://olimex.wordpress.com/2018/01/16/a20-som204-and-som204-evb-preliminary-info-is-uploaded-on-our-web/ ). OTOH the specs look perfect for a ARM64-based trb machine.
17:05 a111 Logged on 2018-05-30 18:39 ave1: I build that one on qemu (for further development I ordered an A64 from olimex, but the one I want is still out of stock)
17:18 asciilifeform spyked: 1G of ram. weak.
17:19 asciilifeform certainly nogood for trb.
17:19 * asciilifeform found 2G to be the barest min. that can run continuously
17:20 asciilifeform and i'm still waiting for someone, anywhere, to make an arm box, of any kind whatsoever, with expandable ram.
17:20 asciilifeform seems as if 0 ever made, afaik.
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17:37 BingoBoingo https://www.cnx-software.com/2016/06/26/599-softiron-overdrive-1000-server-is-powered-by-amd-opteron-a1100-64-bit-arm-processor/ && https://archive.is/CVwS3 << Not sure if actually sold anywhere or vaporware
17:41 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: vapor + riotously overpriced
17:41 asciilifeform ( for < 2x of that figure, you get a dulap-class box, with 32 cpu, 256G ram, raid card, etc )
17:43 asciilifeform one would have to be a complete idiot to buy 2 of the linked golden toilets ( supposing they were in fact for sale, which they dun appear to be, tho vendor site still alive and claiming )
17:48 BingoBoingo Well, provided it ships thing is "of any kind whatsoever" with expandable RAM
17:58 asciilifeform for all i know, lockheed, or harris, or ibm, etc, ship one. i was speaking strictly of boxes priced to sell, not usg circus props.
18:01 asciilifeform understand, 600 usgbux buys whole ( minus power supply ) rc pilot plant ! incl disk !!
18:02 asciilifeform i.e. 6 boxen, or 24 cpu (4 per), however you like to cut it.
~ 1 hours 8 minutes ~
19:11 asciilifeform !!up BreakingRae
19:11 deedbot BreakingRae voiced for 30 minutes.
19:11 asciilifeform BreakingRae: who might you be ?
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20:06 asciilifeform meanwhile, in odd spams, https://rndmthts.com
20:07 mircea_popescu heh
~ 1 hours 46 minutes ~
21:54 mod6 evenin'
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22:34 esthlos http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-30#1819748 << yes, thanks
22:34 a111 Logged on 2018-05-30 12:10 diana_coman: esthlos, "is expected to read and understood before use" -> to read and understand the code?
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22:54 mod6 asciilifeform regrets not having bought the hdd's, betcha they were fulla lul << lol, srsly.
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23:14 asciilifeform know what asciilifeform won't miss at all when we dump fleanode ? how about the join/part vermin.
23:15 mod6 same
23:20 * mircea_popescu apologizes.
23:20 mircea_popescu tis a young domme working to shed it.
23:21 esthlos hey asciilifeform : I'm trying out ratpoison, and lovin it. Mind sharing your workflow/ratpoisonrc?
23:21 asciilifeform esthlos: not only will share, but it'll come standard on those c101pa boxen.
23:21 esthlos ooooh
23:22 esthlos might as well ask: do you have a copy of naggum's emacs?
23:23 asciilifeform esthlos: re: .ratpoisonrc : it is different on diff boxen, because screen res. here's http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/LmIrz/?raw=true the one from the box i happen to be sitting at just now.
23:24 asciilifeform esthlos: i do not have a copy of naggum's anything, aside from a few usenet posts
23:24 esthlos ah, sad
23:24 asciilifeform this is not to say that nobody does.
23:24 esthlos thanks for the rc
23:24 asciilifeform but i haven't any notion who.
23:25 asciilifeform esthlos: np
23:25 asciilifeform it isn't very useful, imho, my rc, this is intensely individual thing
23:25 asciilifeform (useful to others, i mean. to me -- very useful)
23:25 asciilifeform it is very particular to my display layout here in this particular room, for instance.
23:26 asciilifeform on lappies you'll want a key that shows battery status, for example.
23:26 esthlos based on "bind e exec emacs": you don't run as a server?
23:26 asciilifeform nope
23:26 asciilifeform what's to be gained from it ?
23:26 asciilifeform so that 1 emacs can wedge and hang ALL of them ? nothx
23:27 esthlos mostly protects me from stupidly closing last emacs frame
23:27 asciilifeform why would this be a problem ?
23:28 esthlos well, then I have to spin up my buffers again
23:28 asciilifeform if this is serious problem for you, write a save-restore elisp for yer buffers
23:29 esthlos ...never thought of that
23:29 asciilifeform my emacs does not have this problem. prolly on account of the MB or so of multigenerational elisp in'ere
23:29 * asciilifeform bbl,meat
23:30 mircea_popescu if only they had had the sense to v-tree it.
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