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00:29 TheNewDeal !up vexual
00:31 Vexual hi
00:41 BingoBoingo Vexual: Did Big Bird really try to make you a trophy?
00:42 Vexual yeah
00:43 Vexual i blame juliani
00:43 ben_vulpes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OydK91JjFOw
00:43 assbot FKA twigs - Papi Pacify - YouTube
00:44 ben_vulpes <kakobrekla> to prospective advertisers/spammers, one can no longer buy van ad on bitbet. we are back to classic rotator. << toll the bell
00:46 Duffer1 mmm twigs
00:46 Duffer1 love that song ben_vulpes
00:49 ben_vulpes ;;isitdown tumblr.com
00:49 gribble tumblr.com is up
00:52 ben_vulpes liar
00:54 BingoBoingo ;;isitdown vanads.com
00:54 gribble vanads.com is up
00:54 BingoBoingo 0.o
01:00 BingoBoingo !up Vexual
01:00 Vexual whats this paypal thing?
01:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 15776 @ 0.00005105 = 0.8054 BTC [-] {7}
01:02 BingoBoingo It's the thing the late moneypacks go into
01:02 xmj good morning
01:03 mod6 $proxies
01:03 empyex mod6: Proxies: mpex.ws mpex.bz mpex.co mpex.biz mpex.coinbr.com Current MPEx GPG-Key-ID: 02DD2D91
01:04 * mod6 scratches head
01:04 mod6 nm
01:06 empyex mod6: MPEx-Status: mpex.ws (error), mpex.bz (error), mpex.co (error), mpex.biz (error), mpex.coinbr.com (926 milliseconds)
01:06 mod6 o.O
01:07 mod6 hmm. works through tor.
01:19 Vexual <asciilifeform>does anyone still fly those 'suicide' choppers that consist of a chair and motorcycle engine ? <Yep, over 9000 time safer than walking about in the outback
01:20 Vexual that being said, at over 100 feet the biggest killer is gravity
01:23 BingoBoingo Vexual: Well, when you still have full sized velociraptors
01:31 BingoBoingo !up Vexual
01:31 Vexual yeah shits crazy
01:42 Vexual ;;google taipan bite survivors
01:42 gribble Survivors of Taipan bites - Sciencentre: <http://www.sciencentre.qm.qld.gov.au/Find+out+about/Animals+of+Queensland/Reptiles/Snakes/Survivors+of+Taipan+Bite>; Teenager bitten by inland taipan in Hunter Valley | The Australian: <http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/teenager-bitten-by-inland-taipan-in-hunter-valley/story-e6frg6nf-1226482315063>; Snake-bite victim could have been (1 more message)
01:54 ben_vulpes mod6: what's vol?
01:54 ben_vulpes $proxies
01:54 empyex ben_vulpes: Proxies: mpex.ws mpex.bz mpex.co mpex.biz mpex.coinbr.com Current MPEx GPG-Key-ID: 02DD2D91
01:55 empyex ben_vulpes: MPEx-Status: mpex.ws (939 milliseconds), mpex.bz (894 milliseconds), mpex.co (840 milliseconds), mpex.biz (1042 milliseconds), mpex.coinbr.com (911 milliseconds)
01:55 xmj hey ben_vulpes
01:55 ben_vulpes yessss?
01:55 xmj ben_vulpes: how's tricks?
01:56 ben_vulpes too busy for my own good
01:56 xmj ahah
01:57 ben_vulpes so busy i couldn't put enough time into van to make it work
01:57 ben_vulpes and yourself xmj?
01:58 xmj doing good
01:59 xmj still recovering from a month of travelling, apparently
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03:21 fluffypony xmj: around?
03:22 xmj fluffypony: yo
03:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17930 @ 0.00077193 = 13.8407 BTC [-] {2}
03:22 fluffypony xmj: if I have an app that already uses Clang over gcc on OS X then it should be able to use Clang on FreeBSD out the box, no?
03:23 xmj theoretically yes, what app are you talking about?
03:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25125 @ 0.00076689 = 19.2681 BTC [-] {2}
03:23 fluffypony http://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero
03:23 assbot monero-project/bitmonero GitHub
03:23 fluffypony I've just finished installing cmake from ports, so I think I have all the deps
03:24 fluffypony going to try compile and see what explodes
03:24 xmj fluffypony: lemme know once you have it running
03:24 xmj fluffypony: if you hand me a list of dependencies i can cook it into a port. also why are you using freebsd ;)
03:26 fluffypony xmj: I want compatability with fbsd from now and in a way that doesn't require a ports maintainer to patch stuff
03:26 fluffypony so that in future we can just maintain that compatability
03:26 fluffypony instead of having to work backwards
03:26 xmj well that's neat
03:27 xmj do you already have someone who might be able to maintain that port?
03:27 fluffypony we already maintain the Windows / *nix / OS X compatability, so this is just adding to it
03:27 fluffypony but not maintaining a port in the ports tree, no
03:27 fluffypony that you can definitely doa
03:27 fluffypony *do
03:27 xmj oh, but i want to recruit new folks
03:28 RagnarDanneskjol i can help
03:28 fluffypony well in that case can we host the port on our repo or how does it work?
03:28 xmj no no
03:28 fluffypony teach me your ways
03:28 xmj fluffypony: you guys host the software somewhere, e.g. on github or sourceforge or whatever
03:28 fluffypony *ticks box*
03:28 xmj someone (let's call him "new guy") maintains the port for it, you know, Makefile, pkg-descr, pkg-plist and distinfo
03:29 xmj every time a new release comes out he updates Makefile and distinfo with the new stuff, and checks that things still run.
03:29 fluffypony ok so kinda like the guy that maintains the Homebrew tap for us - https://github.com/sammy007/homebrew-cryptonight/blob/master/bitmonero.rb
03:29 assbot homebrew-cryptonight/bitmonero.rb at master sammy007/homebrew-cryptonight GitHub
03:29 xmj then sends a PR (problem report) to bugzilla with a patch attached, and someone like me comes, takes that patch, commits it to ports and all are happy
03:30 xmj fluffypony: bingo
03:30 xmj fluffypony: case in point, it's always awesome to get new people contributing, so if you know someone (else) who'd like to do that
03:30 xmj nag him to take maintainership.
03:30 fluffypony oh no, I don't have boost...building boost is going to take a few hours
03:30 fluffypony lol
03:31 xmj lol
03:31 xmj fluffypony: you can install it with pkgng
03:31 fluffypony xmj: in that case can't we maintain it ourselves?
03:31 xmj well, sure!
03:32 fluffypony ok - a bit later once I've gotten this working or exploding I'll ping you and we can figure out from there
03:32 xmj i figured you'd a) be too lazy to do that yourself and b) have someone else using freebsd you could nag into doing that
03:32 xmj awesome
03:32 * xmj goes compile webkit-gtk3
03:33 xmj see you in a few days.. ;)
03:33 fluffypony lol
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04:10 kakobrekla ben_vulpes was i not suppose to?
04:19 trixisowned http://youtu.be/eG5d6X-dLhM#t=2m49s
04:19 assbot ANGEL TEACHING HER GRAPEFRUIT TECHNIQUE - YouTube
04:34 Duffer1 omg lol i'm having a conversation with that vid in the background then all of a sudden 2:50 o.O
04:34 RagnarDanneskjol that is wrong in so many ways. that noise will haunt me
04:36 cazalla sounds like bullshit but im willing to try, brb shops
04:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73328 @ 0.00077556 = 56.8703 BTC [+] {2}
04:48 punkman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LUOY-v-bn8
04:48 assbot Penis Dating - YouTube
04:49 xmj fluffypony: you've got quite some code churn in that repo
04:49 xmj not bad :-0
04:49 fluffypony you should check the development branch, way more going on there :-p
04:51 xmj details.. ;)
04:51 xmj why is monero more awesome than everything else?
04:54 fluffypony well the privacy stuff is obviously quite cool
04:55 fluffypony and the stealth addresses are made up of two keys, a view and a spend key
04:55 fluffypony so you can offload your transaction processing by revealing your view key whilst still retaining control of your funds through your spend key
04:56 fluffypony and ring signatures (group signatures) on inputs on tx's makes transactions on the blockchain unlinkable, since an observer can never know whether a utxo has actually been spent or is merely included as part of a ring signature
04:57 fluffypony which leads to neat spin-off projects like this: https://github.com/monero-project/urs/
04:57 assbot monero-project/urs GitHub
04:57 fluffypony more details about that here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=768499.0;all
04:57 assbot Unique Ring Signatures using secp256k1 keys
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05:23 jurov http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2frou7/psa_if_you_are_invested_or_gambling_at/
05:23 assbot [PSA] if you are invested or gambling at dicebitco.in, please login and divest/withdraw asap! confirmed scam to players and investors : Bitcoin
05:28 kakobrekla lolk
05:31 RagnarDanneskjol http://www.diva-portal.org/smash/record.jsf?pid=diva2:742882
05:31 RagnarDanneskjol [A comparison between Bitcoin and other assets using an intraday Value at Risk approach]
05:44 cazalla jurov, such a shame, i like that dice site
05:44 mircea_popescu so buenos aires is completely fucking flooded
05:44 cazalla strange, so is melbourne
05:45 cazalla we had hail as well, my sugar snap peas are fucked
05:45 mircea_popescu yup it started raining with nightfall, then it hailed for like an hour
05:45 mircea_popescu by now the sidewalk is under a river
05:49 mircea_popescu kakobrekla "When did BitBet started?" rly ? anyway, he can come here and ask w/e. but otherwise no.
05:49 assbot yona__ +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
05:50 RagnarDanneskjol !up yona__
05:50 mircea_popescu who's yona__
05:51 yona__ well, here from bitcoin emBassy in Tel Aviv
05:51 RagnarDanneskjol dunno, someone who wanted voice apparently
05:51 kakobrekla mircea_popescu ur no fun. i sent him this way.
05:52 mircea_popescu no but i mean, zero effort fuckwits. "do my job for me please, what is the difference between bitbet and "other brands" ?
05:52 mircea_popescu what the fuck other brands for crying out loud.
05:52 mircea_popescu yona__ a hi. how's tel aviv ?
05:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00077442 = 3.5623 BTC [-]
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06:10 punkman https://twitter.com/Gotham3/status/508933188266098688/photo/1
06:10 assbot Abandoned Supersonic TU-144 in a Russian backyard. http://t.co/YP88qYyJD5
06:11 mircea_popescu punkman it's prolly a strip club
06:11 punkman sounds fun
06:14 yona__ well, Tel Aviv is humid, but it seems to bode well for bitcoin
06:14 punkman what does the embassy do?
06:15 yona__ www.bitembassy.org
06:15 yona__ we are an open source non for profit community hub
06:15 punkman server not found?
06:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.1868165 = 1.1209 BTC [-] {3}
06:17 yona__ it's like IRC but in real world :)
06:18 mircea_popescu uh.
06:18 RagnarDanneskjol what is this phrase "not for profit". what is the alternative
06:18 mircea_popescu i wonder why people think there's some sort of dichotomy between irc and irl.
06:19 punkman mircea_popescu: but gribble can't make coffee yet
06:19 mircea_popescu punkman so ? the next step is for the girlfriend at work to claim she's fucking you irl while the wife is somehow virtual, because you interact with her mostly through postits and phone calls.
06:19 mircea_popescu o look, pos-tits! who knew.
06:20 mircea_popescu !up yona__
06:20 RagnarDanneskjol !up yona__
06:21 punkman yona__: so describe a good day in the embassy
06:22 punkman do people trade? work on altcoins? just sit around drinking coffee and derping about bitcoin?
06:23 mircea_popescu it's not with people, it's in the real world.
06:24 mircea_popescu you know, they don't make these diplomats of the same substance they used to.
06:25 RagnarDanneskjol ahaha
06:25 punkman myeah
06:27 mircea_popescu im kinda surprised nobody's trying more productive paths of insanity. why claim to be whatever, the bitcoin chamber of commerce ?
06:27 mircea_popescu why not claim you're the empress of jormania or something
06:27 mircea_popescu the real niece of grace kelly, whatever.
06:28 mircea_popescu i guess these known affectations are overpopulated and so don't hold as much perceived cachet,. huh. random tramp invited for her tits and drunken antics at some party wouldn't get away with claiming she's the real niece of napoleon's first wife quite as well.
06:28 punkman https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BxChMibIYAAlkvU.jpg
06:29 mircea_popescu hm. actually, the fuck she wouldn't. of course she wouild, nobody cares *what* she claims.
06:29 xmj mircea_popescu: if she has nice tits..
06:29 xmj exactly, nobody cares
06:29 mircea_popescu i dun get it.
06:29 xmj she's invited for her tits, not for the witty statements she makes.
06:30 mircea_popescu punkman that is total bs. women don't walk on their heel. like, at all.
06:30 mircea_popescu unless it's some sort of land whale, the reason she has heels in the first place is because she walks on the ball of her foot anyway.
06:30 punkman walking on your heels hurts
06:31 punkman for me at least
06:31 mircea_popescu it'd fucking better, on high heels. the fucking point of them is for wrong girlwalk to hurt.
06:32 xmj that and to make legs longer, thereby faking better fertility.
06:34 mircea_popescu fuck the fertility, long legs look better.
06:37 mircea_popescu if only a mechanical apparatus could be devised to make every twennysomething derp hurt each time she posts something stupid on reddit
06:38 mircea_popescu life was better before the intellectual revolution. in these postmuscular times we're stuck with meta-meta bs.
06:44 mircea_popescu ;;seen Kleeck
06:44 gribble Kleeck was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 31 weeks, 2 days, 9 hours, 59 minutes, and 12 seconds ago: <kleeck> yeah... hilarious..?
06:46 mircea_popescu asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2013/america-and-intellectual-relevance/ << ever seen or before your time ?
06:46 assbot America and intellectual relevance pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
06:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1663 @ 0.00063633 = 1.0582 BTC [+] {4}
06:56 penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/views-from-argentina/
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07:34 kakobrekla so i fire up bitcoind to sync last n days and after only a few min i get traffic in 27 megs, out 50 megs
07:34 kakobrekla is this thing underfed?
07:36 kakobrekla (also my upload speed is one fourth of download)
07:37 kakobrekla i dont have hard data but over the thumb the experience was much better a year ago
07:44 kakobrekla seems like too many leechers in torrent speak
07:45 kakobrekla but dunno, last time i checked bitcoind node count was going down
07:53 mircea_popescu it;'s been underfed for a while.
07:53 kakobrekla its some weird shit
07:54 kakobrekla when in doubt, blame the usg?
07:56 mircea_popescu what's so weird about it tho ?
07:56 mircea_popescu this has been long said here, the #1 problem with the bitcoin protocol is that it has no specific payment for relays, and it allows separation of mining and relay.
07:57 kakobrekla so when i fire it up i would expect it to be heavy on the download not the upload especially with my line asymmetry , instead you get the opposite
07:57 kakobrekla now when its sycned up the upload is gone
07:59 mircea_popescu maybe you have bad pings or some obscure port block from trhe isp ?
08:00 kakobrekla not sure wtf but ill be keepin an eye out
08:02 kakobrekla node count over past 60 days seems kinda stable at 7k
08:02 kakobrekla at lest so is reported on bitnodes.io
08:03 mircea_popescu actually i just looked and it's not nearly as bad as it used to be
08:03 mircea_popescu mebbe peter todd's thing actually helped.
08:03 kakobrekla which part isnt as bad
08:04 kakobrekla node count?
08:04 kakobrekla sync speed?
08:05 mircea_popescu the bw flow
08:06 mircea_popescu "node count" isn't necessarily all that relevant
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08:31 mircea_popescu someone needs to figure out how to make a power distribution system that doesn't depend on not being flooded
08:31 mircea_popescu this is getting ridiculous
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08:48 jurov easy. don't live in flood prone areas.
08:50 mircea_popescu dude goes to doctor, "hey doc, if i do this it hurts" "so don't do that"
08:50 mircea_popescu i think you misunderstand what technology is for :D
08:50 Vexual blacklist
08:58 BingoBoingo http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2014/09/08/does-obtaining-leaked-data-from-a-misconfigured-website-violate-the-cfaa/
08:58 assbot Does obtaining leaked data from a misconfigured website violate the CFAA? - The Washington Post
09:00 Vexual depends if youre the government or not
09:00 Vexual ross is getting done for hacking tools
09:01 Vexual i doubt the fbi did anything longhand
09:03 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo short answer, "doing anything is illegal"
09:06 Vexual watch?v=swHXwZcW5Vg
09:06 Vexual better call saul
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09:24 Vexual prove it cunt. well, you siezed my computer, and then i was incarcirated.
09:37 Vexual 7Y6ihWvymwg
09:38 asciilifeform http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/in-dc-a-12-year-old-piano-prodigy-is-treated-as-a-truant-instead-of-a-star-student/2014/09/08/58962746-3727-11e4-bdfb-de4104544a37_story.html << another american lol
09:38 assbot In D.C., a 13-year-old piano prodigy is treated as a truant instead of a star student - The Washington Post
09:41 Vexual sounds jazzy, might be a felony
09:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00077664 = 7.1451 BTC [+]
09:45 asciilifeform http://cryptome.org/2014/09/firefighter-sovereign.pdf
09:49 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: intellectual-relevance << yes.
09:52 mircea_popescu !up guntha
09:52 mircea_popescu asciilifeform aok
09:55 mircea_popescu TheNewDeal: has any numbnut admitted fault to the btc/eur fiasco on btce last night? << nope.
09:56 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo: Job interview Wednesday < for what ?
09:57 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Library work
09:57 mircea_popescu hey if you get it, do me a favour, count heads. i'm curious what % of hot women in the library population.
09:58 mircea_popescu mod6: hmm. works through tor. << i think maybe proxy checker had a local connectivity issue
10:00 BingoBoingo Sure, can do
10:01 mircea_popescu assbot: [PSA] if you are invested or gambling at dicebitco.in, please login and divest/withdraw asap! confirmed scam to players and investors : Bitcoin <<< hey kako what is teh diff between bitbet and other brands!11
10:02 mircea_popescu RagnarDanneskjol: [A comparison between Bitcoin and other assets using an intraday Value at Risk approach] << "
10:02 mircea_popescu The promising cryptocurrency Bitcoin has attracted a lot of attention recently, but the high volatility of the Bitcoin price has so far been a barrier to widespread adoption."
10:02 mircea_popescu right, they know this.
10:03 mircea_popescu i also like to open research by postulating improbable but piously repeated nonsense, it makes reading it worthwhile
10:05 RagnarDanneskjol piously repeated, predictable conclusions - yes, but the research methodology appeared to be relatively sound and thourough
10:05 mircea_popescu once you know what you want the conclusions to be, making the methodology seem sound isn't much of a task.
10:05 mircea_popescu making the methodology be sound when you have nfi idea where you're going is a little harder
10:05 RagnarDanneskjol very true
10:06 RagnarDanneskjol I'm a sucker - appreciate academic research in the area however misguided it may be
10:06 mircea_popescu kinda why real research is so easily overtaken by government sponsored nonsense.
10:06 RagnarDanneskjol huh
10:06 mircea_popescu i'm a hater, all it takes me is one broken sentence and im gone.
10:06 RagnarDanneskjol hahah - so true
10:06 mircea_popescu RagnarDanneskjol well government wasn't the right word i guess. "establishment" ?
10:08 RagnarDanneskjol sure - all the same apparatus I suppose
10:08 mircea_popescu in other news, the chick that fell in love with a wolf http://www.apprendimentosociale.it/en/claudia-fugazza/
10:08 assbot Claudia Fugazza | Do as I do
10:10 RagnarDanneskjol a Degree in Dog Breeding -who knew such a thing
10:10 mircea_popescu you can get a degree in getting degrees by now.
10:10 RagnarDanneskjol yup
10:10 BingoBoingo ;;later tell strtp`fndr This hangover has lead me to a decision. I won't be investing in flappy airplane, so don't worry about that test.
10:10 gribble The operation succeeded.
10:10 mircea_popescu hey fluffypony do you plan to eventually sell the monero idea here once it reaches some sort of maturity or do you just plan to wait indefinitely for b-a to figure it out ?
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10:12 BingoBoingo ;;later tell strtp`fndr Also how do you profess to do anything IP related and not know that boat hull designs were kind of the big impetus for the stuff taking off.
10:12 gribble The operation succeeded.
10:13 rithm a degree in dog breeding sounds exciting
10:14 mircea_popescu rithm 12154jcphamguruvan432014-03-07 17:10:02-5defaulted on 100 btc loan << that bit. you never answered, what was it ?
10:15 rithm i'm not sure i understand the question
10:15 mircea_popescu can you tell me what the dispute with guruvan was
10:16 rithm i think your question arised from the time at which the rating was entered which is scewed from the statement in reality
10:16 rithm 4th dimensionally, speaking
10:16 rithm the statement being true, in any case
10:16 mircea_popescu well ?
10:17 rithm iirc i'm allowed to enter rating 3 years in retrograde
10:18 rithm it's part of the ponzi circle-jerk idk what else to tell you
10:18 assbot Last 6 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3CCFN0C.txt )
10:18 BingoBoingo !b 6
10:19 rithm you try to diversify, what do your borrorers do, ponzi on!
10:19 mircea_popescu rithm tell me something substantial.
10:19 mircea_popescu narrative form works. start somewhere and go with it.
10:19 rithm negative ghostrider, the pattern is full.
10:19 rithm do your fly-by elsewhere
10:20 mircea_popescu this is like talking to vexual.
10:20 * rithm is a dancer?
10:21 rithm i invoke.
10:21 rithm in any case.
10:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [BTM] 1000 @ 0.0017017 = 1.7017 BTC [+] {5}
10:21 rithm i could ;;unrate and wash it clean if you like
10:22 rithm but that doesn't seem very WoT
10:22 BingoBoingo <rithm> negative ghostrider, the pattern is full. << Imma have to use this pattern is full business sometime
10:22 mircea_popescu what i'd like most would be to discern meaning and structure in your activity. but that seems too much to ask, so im just gonna forge tabout it.
10:22 rithm BingoBoingo, are you Maverick or Goose?
10:22 BingoBoingo Iceman
10:23 rithm nice...
10:23 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo for the record, top gun is a parody, right ?
10:24 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Doesn't seem to have been intended as one.
10:24 BingoBoingo Seems to have been a propaganda piece
10:25 TomServo Ever heard Tarantino's explanation?
10:25 TomServo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzY9a-WmE6o
10:25 assbot Quentin Tarantino taking on Top Gun - YouTube
10:27 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Now if Top Gun was parody what does that make http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102059/
10:27 assbot Hot Shots! - Die Mutter aller Filme (1991) - IMDb
10:28 mircea_popescu TomServo never had ty
10:28 mircea_popescu TomServo you know his famous explanation as to what like a virgin is all about i imagine
10:29 TomServo I do.
10:31 mircea_popescu someone should pay that guy to write QT's Explanation As To What All Pop Culture Is All About.
10:31 mircea_popescu twelve volumes, bound in starlet leather.
10:40 rithm ;;rate guruvan -5 http://pastebin.com/M3FVL7sJ loan default
10:40 assbot for my hunny bunny mircea - Pastebin.com
10:40 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating for user guruvan has changed from -5 to -5.
10:40 rithm ;;balance 1Pu6DJjHVd35kWZRKKikbB41qiAyJPwhkx
10:40 gribble 0
10:42 mircea_popescu oic.
10:42 mircea_popescu ty.
10:43 rithm 1 month %15 interest seems legit
10:43 * rithm epic facepalms
10:44 rithm ;;balance 1KxguySN2W7DHasLGTjzoqP8VNpmUZu7HW
10:44 gribble 0
10:44 rithm https://blockchain.info/address/1KxguySN2W7DHasLGTjzoqP8VNpmUZu7HW
10:44 assbot Bitcoin Address 1KxguySN2W7DHasLGTjzoqP8VNpmUZu7HW
10:45 rithm interesting address for reference point
10:46 guruvan oh hey mircea_popescu that's a loan that I had quite some time ago ( took loan @ $6.50 or so) and haven't been able to repay yet. 70BTC still outstanding.
10:46 rithm yes i'm being interrogated about it guruvan
10:46 rithm how are you
10:46 guruvan good - who's interrogating you?
10:47 rithm mircea jesus
10:47 guruvan oic
10:48 rithm i thought some repyment was made as well but i'm not able to locate that at this time, although i'm sure i have a record of it somewhere
10:49 rithm ;;ident
10:49 gribble CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'rithm', with hostmask 'rithm!~rithm@unaffiliated/rithm', is identified as user 'jcpham', with GPG key id C71FB5ED6ACE04AF, key fingerprint F7299BD73879E866613EAB24C71FB5ED6ACE04AF, and bitcoin address 157CrafPv8oGC7f5vVFuLnE1BgDYUND4hq
10:49 guruvan Ah. I was about to ask this :)
10:49 guruvan I looked for your nick when I came back on irc
10:50 rithm i'm here but certainly not what you'd call active
10:50 guruvan lol. I've not been on irc in forever. but I'll be here all the time for some time now.
10:50 * guruvan will still repay this loan
10:50 rithm sweet!
10:50 rithm i'll remove the negrate!
10:51 guruvan awesome!!!
10:51 guruvan it still might take time, but it still will get repaid.
10:51 rithm 10-4
10:56 kakobrekla interest included? :)
10:56 kakobrekla 15 monthly since 2012 is something.
10:57 rithm hey, let's all be gentlemen
10:57 kakobrekla :D
11:01 mircea_popescu guruvan yeah i was asking. when old names show up after an absence there's always the suspicion of squatting, and then i saw the - and itwent from there.
11:01 mircea_popescu !up karma
11:05 guruvan thanks mircea_popescu - I should have authed in channel when I got in
11:05 guruvan kakobrekla: some kind of interest, of course! (maybe not the ridiculous APR we were all seeing back then!
11:06 mircea_popescu ;;calc 1.07 ** (52/12)
11:06 gribble 1.34069411581
11:06 mircea_popescu 34% per month!
11:06 guruvan lulz
11:07 guruvan on top of orders of magnitude in USD value ;)
11:07 mircea_popescu in 2012 ? nah mostly stable then wasn't it
11:07 mircea_popescu 5 to 10 range
11:07 rithm 5 -> 10 12 ish -> ponzi -> 3
11:08 rithm thank you to everyone for communicating with me
11:09 guruvan and me - and thanks for watching for imposters mircea_popescu (and everyone)
11:09 mircea_popescu http://38.media.tumblr.com/72e369812188cad1a99eabbedc0201f5/tumblr_naumi36gjB1trzasto1_500.jpg << not peeing all over one's butt, still the hardest part of womanhood
11:09 rithm i'm not unreasonable. the contract has no clause for usd repayment. contracts can be amended.
11:09 rithm arrangements can be made
11:11 guruvan The loan was in BTC, and should be paid in BTC, in full IMO
11:11 rithm i agree with you and thank you
11:11 guruvan lucky for you, I don't earn money in USD, so it's not so much an issue as it could be
11:12 guruvan lucky for you....lucky for ME
11:12 rithm but i'm not some usurious vulture preying on people here
11:12 guruvan no...also lucky for me ;)
11:15 artifexd ;;ident guruvan
11:15 gribble Nick 'guruvan', with hostmask 'guruvan!~guruvan@gateway/tor-sasl/guruvan', is identified as user 'guruvan', with GPG key id AF02B22DA54E87F2, key fingerprint 50C9ACA3898D561CEFE518FCAF02B22DA54E87F2, and bitcoin address 1GUruvanCg4gS62XCeD9VbCzJhT1cyn2a3
11:27 thestringpuller ;;tickers
11:27 gribble Error: "tickers" is not a valid command.
11:27 thestringpuller ;;ticker
11:28 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 464.03, Best ask: 464.92, Bid-ask spread: 0.89000, Last trade: 464.03, 24 hour volume: 10663.55223220, 24 hour low: 459.18, 24 hour high: 478.39, 24 hour vwap: 468.810668659
11:28 thestringpuller !l m s.mpoe
11:28 assbot Last trade for S.MPOE on MPEX was at 0.00077664 BTC [+]
11:39 ThickAsThieves what happened with vanads on bitbet? cant you just up the cost to mitigate asshats?
11:48 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves van ads are taking a sabbatical or something like that.
11:48 ThickAsThieves oh
11:50 mircea_popescu http://33.media.tumblr.com/cf2c9d6292eab1a3518f6420065870f6/tumblr_naunihztFQ1trzasto1_500.jpg << this is what a powerpoint presentation shuld have been in the first place.
11:50 mircea_popescu have this wooden lattice corner in every office, tie bad girls to it as need arises.
11:52 ThickAsThieves pallet porn
11:52 mircea_popescu lol
11:52 mod6 ha
11:55 ThickAsThieves in http://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/eastern-district-court-of-texas-holds-th-45049/ what does "The Court granted the Defendants’ motion to reconsider its prior decision on subject-matter jurisdiction, but denied the Defendants’ motion to dismiss for lack of subject-matter jurisdiction." mean?
11:55 assbot Eastern District Court of Texas Holds that Bitcoin Investments Are Securities | BuckleySandler LLP - JDSupra
11:55 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves starting where ? do you know what a motion is ?
11:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1290 @ 0.00063811 = 0.8232 BTC [-] {2}
11:56 ThickAsThieves they wont dismiss, but what does reconsideration of subject-matter jurisdiction mean?
11:56 mircea_popescu whether that court may or may not judge the subject in contention
11:57 rithm gotta love courts and judges
11:57 ThickAsThieves if they find they may not, then who might may?
11:57 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves if we were maried and i sued you for divorce and filed this with the admirality court
11:57 rithm lol
11:57 mircea_popescu they'd decide they have no subject matter jurisdiction and throw the case out
11:57 mircea_popescu and it's not their job to say that.
11:58 thestringpuller ThickAsThieves weren't you gonna make a BTC record label?
11:58 ThickAsThieves so the pros would have to refile with a court they feel might match?
11:59 mircea_popescu yes.
11:59 mircea_popescu generally there's a catchall jurisdiction, usually the appelate.
11:59 ThickAsThieves ah
11:59 ThickAsThieves but SEC wants East Texas
12:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.40915124 BTC to 15`372 shares, 9167 satoshi per share
12:00 mircea_popescu depends, on some subject matter the supreme court is the catchall
12:00 mircea_popescu and this may well be it.
12:00 mircea_popescu meaning they won't be able to convict for a coupla decades.
12:00 mircea_popescu not too likely tho. in general in the us a federal circuit court will pick weird stuff up rather than pass it up the line
12:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 2.98996880 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 260 satoshi per share
12:01 ThickAsThieves do you think Ulbricht should go to prison?
12:01 rithm is it legal to fuzz captchas
12:01 ThickAsThieves rithm there's an article on that in the NYTimes i think
12:01 ThickAsThieves or WashPost
12:01 ThickAsThieves i forget which
12:01 mircea_popescu in my country ? not on what i've seen so far. other countrikes can run whichever way they please.
12:02 rithm i'm just wondering how far technically a jury trial can go when we start talking about injection and fuzzing
12:02 rithm this is highly technical and should've/coul've been meticulously documented
12:02 rithm juries not so much any of that
12:02 ThickAsThieves not a new problem
12:03 jurov mircea_popescu when are F.DERP asks starting? or you just sold all of it to yourself? :D
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12:03 ThickAsThieves http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/09/08/leaky_captcha_behind_fbis_silk_road_rapture/
12:03 assbot Doubts cast over FBI 'leaky CAPTCHA' Silk Road rapture The Register
12:03 mircea_popescu jurov yeah atm im holding it all. prolly after there's decent bids.
12:05 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves fabulous, their parallel construction is collapsing and the matter's not even at appeal yet.
12:05 mircea_popescu this has the potential to turn into one of the most embarassing moments for us da's derpidity.
12:12 ThickAsThieves specifically: "In this scenario, the description of packet sniffers and 'inspecting each packet' is all a distraction from what the FBI really did. Technically, saying that a packet sniffer revealed the true IP address of the server is true – what isn't mentioned is the packet sniffer was picking up responses from a request to the login page that was forcing it to spit out the IP
12:12 ThickAsThieves address as part of a bug."
12:16 asciilifeform Ulbricht should go to prison? << nah. he should experience the 'five punishments.' not for dope, but for being a public idiot.
12:17 BingoBoingo http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_FRANCE_TOPLESS_ADIEU?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
12:17 assbot News from The Associated Press
12:18 mircea_popescu wasn;t the punishment for public idiocy public ridicule ?
12:18 mircea_popescu that's been exacted already.
12:19 mircea_popescu Sandra Riahi, 22, in a bikini, chimed in: "I've never done it. I'd be too embarrassed." <<< let the sand niggers in, get fucking burkas and "embarassed" women.
12:20 mircea_popescu also lol@the propaganda, hitching english "feminism" to french toplessness.
12:22 ThickAsThieves when will male toplessness go away?
12:22 mircea_popescu prolly as soon as armpit sweat goes.
12:24 mircea_popescu asciilifeform : Sĭ (死), death. Following the Sui and Tang Dynasties there were generally two options: strangulation (jiǎo 絞/绞) or decapitation (zhǎn 斩/斬). From the Song Dynasty (970–1279 CE) onwards, slow slicing (língchí 凌迟) along with beheading (xiāoshŏu 枭首) were also used. The death penalty could be remitted on payment of 42 guàn in copper cash.
12:25 Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "King Felix to Reign MLB Strikeouts" http://bitbet.us/bet/943/ Odds: 10(Y):90(N) by coin, 21(Y):79(N) by weight. Total bet: 1.815 BTC. Current weight: 26,346.
12:25 mircea_popescu they totally should have this. for speeding and for substance abuses. "buy your selection of pop starlets for 42 bitcents a head"
12:25 asciilifeform mircea_popescu, yes, these.
12:25 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: also see 'waist chop.'
12:26 mircea_popescu they totally need this "buy ex cons" thing for rich people.
12:26 ThickAsThieves at least give the convicted the option i guess, death or slavery
12:27 mircea_popescu for all the derpage about re=education, the only way reeducation happens is teh dungeon.
12:27 mircea_popescu !up maclane
12:28 mircea_popescu amusingly, the punishments for women include forced suicide and confinement to a room, but no mastectomy/hysterectomy, and the jail thing ranks above suicide in severity.
12:30 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: the chinese had little grasp of antisepsis. if i recall - death rate of eunuch production was around 1 in 3.
12:30 asciilifeform and that's just snipped balls.
12:30 mircea_popescu so ?
12:30 mircea_popescu these are convicts.
12:30 asciilifeform so: sepsis is an uninspiring and tedious death
12:30 asciilifeform in china, death is a spectator sport.
12:31 asciilifeform hence, 'ling-chi', etc.
12:31 mircea_popescu sepsis is an incredibly specatotor -friendly death.
12:31 mircea_popescu you ever smelled it ?
12:31 asciilifeform for some values of 'friendly.'
12:31 mircea_popescu well, it delivers a show.
12:31 ThickAsThieves well with all the feminism, who wants nuts anyway!
12:37 mircea_popescu http://33.media.tumblr.com/42baa81bb2efcd834a21e90145393246/tumblr_n9t1dilqy61sleb1eo1_1280.jpg
12:37 mircea_popescu black walnut!
12:40 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
12:40 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 464.35, Best ask: 465.75, Bid-ask spread: 1.40000, Last trade: 465.64, 24 hour volume: 9858.38067360, 24 hour low: 459.18, 24 hour high: 478.39, 24 hour vwap: 468.672764342
12:47 dub applolpocalypse?
12:58 ThickAsThieves "The Mayo Clinic will be giving Apple a hand at its launch event this evening, according to the Star Tribune. "
12:59 BingoBoingo http://www.gomerblog.com/2014/09/surgeon-general/
12:59 assbot Obama Replaces Surgeon General with Nurse Practitioner General - Medical Satire - GomerBlog
13:04 ThickAsThieves apple is nuts if it thinks i'm downloading safari just to watch their shit
13:05 dub yeah lol
13:07 ThickAsThieves last thing i need is a nude selfie scandal!
13:08 dub makes sense though, you dont want normal people to point and laugh at your latest tardphone
13:09 assbot Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3BZKK07.txt )
13:09 BingoBoingo !b 4
13:10 BingoBoingo I just can't wait for the media to reinvent the word "nudie" by combing "nude" and "selfie"
13:11 ThickAsThieves https://www.tradingview.com/x/fx464d25/
13:11 dub wow
13:11 dub iphone6, its a samsung
13:12 ThickAsThieves arent they all?
13:12 ThickAsThieves :)
13:13 xmj made in taiwan?
13:14 dub Phil Schiller tells the world about his cameltoe
13:14 dub sorry, gunt
13:14 dub ;;ud gunt
13:14 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Gunt | Bulging area found on large older women between the waist and the genital area . Not quite a gut, not quite a cunt... The Gunt.
13:14 dub bullshit
13:15 dub its a manletoe
13:15 rithm mantletoe ha
13:15 dub omg landscape view
13:19 kakobrekla ;;tslb
13:19 BingoBoingo %tslb
13:19 atcbot Time Since Last ATC Block: 0 hour(s), 56 minutes
13:19 gribble Time since last block: 31 minutes and 23 seconds
13:20 kakobrekla lol.
13:20 kakobrekla the diff is too god damn high.
13:20 dub chill, your iphone purchase will go through eventually
13:21 kakobrekla lol
13:21 ThickAsThieves Super Evil Megacorp is actually a cool name
13:22 BingoBoingo %d
13:22 atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 279961.07 in 1310 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -85.09
13:23 dub _up to_ 50% faster since 2007
13:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6327 @ 0.00077649 = 4.9129 BTC [-] {2}
13:24 ThickAsThieves i wonder how much work goes into picking the right blue jeans to present in
13:25 dub dude there is probably NLP best practise for which way to arrange your junk
13:25 ThickAsThieves lol
13:26 xmj NLP neuro linguistic programming?
13:26 ThickAsThieves please ensure no penis-shaped shadows are apparent
13:26 dub frank left beans right, makes sales go right
13:26 ThickAsThieves if penis is too large, please place along seam, between legs
13:28 dub all teh blogs are omg 50% faster!
13:28 dub less thank half of moores and light years behind competition!!!!1!
13:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15995 @ 0.00077768 = 12.439 BTC [+]
13:29 ThickAsThieves hilarious that wifi calling is a feature and only limited support
13:30 dub only connects to airports or whatever those things are
13:31 dub It.s always good to know your audience [are retarded].
13:32 dub black folk on a horse!
13:33 dub ahaha
13:34 dub iphone6, now with nigger detection
13:38 kakobrekla hm?
13:46 BingoBoingo http://www.wfla.com/story/26477486/drunk-new-port-richey-woman-tried-to-pick-up-kid-at-school-hit-2-cars-say-deputies
13:46 assbot Drunk woman tried to pick up kid at Trinity school, hit 2 cars, - WFLA News Channel 8
13:51 ThickAsThieves Cue says "we are not in the business of collecting your data."
13:51 ThickAsThieves nope, just leaking it
13:52 ThickAsThieves apple signed up an asston of merchants and banks for iPay huh
13:53 BingoBoingo ;;ticker
13:53 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 466.8, Best ask: 467.56, Bid-ask spread: 0.76000, Last trade: 466.81, 24 hour volume: 7181.99975766, 24 hour low: 459.18, 24 hour high: 478.39, 24 hour vwap: 468.624580322
13:53 BingoBoingo !t n apl
13:53 assbot Aren't those tins of tobacco right there behind you?
14:01 artifexd http://www.wired.com/2014/09/satoshi/
14:01 assbot Someone’s Threatening to Expose Bitcoin Founder Satoshi Nakamoto | Enterprise | WIRED
14:12 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: https://leaksource.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/satoshi-email-2.png << lol
14:12 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: now we know why they knocked on your door.
14:15 asciilifeform what's 'lancelot' ? evidently - this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=193129.0
14:15 assbot Ended CardReaderFactory Lancelot Group Purchase due to Seller Business Practice
14:16 asciilifeform fpga mining board (as late as 2013) advertised by 'cardreaderfactory', a firm which appears to sell 'card skimmers' (a type of cheating device, popular in usa, where credit card magstripes are secretly read from unsuspecting victim)
14:17 ThickAsThieves so satoshi is a scammer
14:18 asciilifeform or that disposable email popped open ages ago.
14:22 asciilifeform or good disinfo artist.
14:23 asciilifeform http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=113_1406258044 << 'hedsoff.com' !
14:23 assbot LiveLeak.com - Non Moderated beheaders claim behead many soldier on Division 17
14:26 The20YearIRCloud hello friend
14:26 thestringpuller iPay w poop
14:26 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Interesting, I wonder if I know anyone in 63101
14:26 asciilifeform http://i.imgur.com/y0Ee8cl.png << lol
14:26 thestringpuller i'm going to patent iPoop
14:31 BingoBoingo Lol that address isn't in the city it seems to be in the middle of the ghetto between Ferguson and Dellwood (also not that ZIP)
14:32 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: bozo orders $turd, uses 'satoshi' email addr, snore.
14:32 BingoBoingo Turd orderer seems to the the mailman
14:32 BingoBoingo http://www.usa.com/63101-mo.htm
14:32 assbot 63101 Zip Code
14:39 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Seems to be the case, except turd prolly wasn't ordered.
14:49 RagnarDanneskjol argh >> http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2014/09/apple-watch-everything-you-need-to-know/
14:49 assbot Apple Watch: Everything You Need To Know | Gizmodo Australia
14:55 The20YearIRCloud 5% better performance !
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15:25 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo it's what it always meant neh ?
15:25 mircea_popescu nudies, amateur naked ladies.
15:27 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves: Super Evil Megacorp is actually a cool name << foreal.
15:30 ben_vulpes ios watch: bubble season conspicuous consumption play?
15:30 * asciilifeform catching up on logs, wondering why 'van ads' was declared failed experiment
15:31 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: needs more time than i can give it.
15:31 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: time for what? i thought it was automatic.
15:31 ben_vulpes moar features.
15:32 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Indeed, just waiting for the media to present it as new
15:32 mircea_popescu oh that lancelot drama
15:34 mircea_popescu http://edge.liveleak.com/80281E/ll_a_s/2014/Jul/24/LiveLeak-dot-com-113_1406258044-BtU-rrQIQAAJ1cDjpglarge_1406258531.jpg.resized.jpg?d5e8cc8eccfb6039332f41f6249e92b06c91b4db65f5e99818bdd6964f4dd9d1a6e1&ec_rate=230 << star of david in fence ?
15:36 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: tap die holder.
15:45 mircea_popescu ;;bc,stats
15:45 gribble Current Blocks: 319881 | Current Difficulty: 2.7428630902257874E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 320543 | Next Difficulty In: 662 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 4 days, 23 hours, 27 minutes, and 31 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 29141322280.6 | Estimated Percent Change: 6.24417
15:45 mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/1028/btc-difficulty-over-31bn-before-october/
15:45 assbot BitBet - BTC Difficulty over 31Bn before October :: 82.76 B (93%) on Yes, 6.09 B (7%) on No | closing in 1 week 4 hours | weight: 26`860 (100`000 to 1)
15:45 mircea_popescu srsly, 13:1 ?!
15:48 BingoBoingo ;;bc,stats
15:48 gribble Current Blocks: 319881 | Current Difficulty: 2.7428630902257874E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 320543 | Next Difficulty In: 662 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 4 days, 23 hours, 27 minutes, and 31 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 29141322280.6 | Estimated Percent Change: 6.24417
15:50 mircea_popescu basically if the next diff isn't up 6.5% it's a no
15:50 BingoBoingo ;;tslb
15:50 gribble Time since last block: 6 minutes and 53 seconds
15:52 artifexd Seeing as mp has brought up the october bet a couple time and expressed surprise that it is so lopsided, I think he is expecting it to resolve as no.
15:53 RagnarDanneskjol hmm
15:54 mircea_popescu artifexd it's more of an academic interest.
15:54 mircea_popescu outrageous difficulty bitbets have a lengthy tradition of coming out yes.
15:55 thestringpuller ;;diff
15:55 gribble 2.7428630902257874E10
15:55 artifexd Working through this: 5 days from now is the 14th. If difficulty doesn't go up or down, the next readjustment would be on the 28th.
15:55 thestringpuller lol could very well be 31bn
15:56 thestringpuller ;;estimate
15:56 gribble Next difficulty estimate | 29148006151.2 based on data since last change | 28524041524.0 based on data for last three days
15:57 mircea_popescu thestringpuller it's been flagging lately. artifexd yeah, and that's the last one.
15:57 mircea_popescu there's no way to get crammed in the remaining 16 days
15:59 BingoBoingo <ozbot> 27.429 billion | Next Diff in 662 blocks | Estimated Change: 6.2322% in 4d 7h 20m 23s
15:59 artifexd You need, what, a 12% increase in the next two adjustments? That seems almost certain. Which the odds on the bet would confirm.
16:00 mircea_popescu why's it so certain ?
16:01 BingoBoingo Fuck me, this could resolve as no the time I don't have money on it.
16:01 artifexd The estimate for the current period is over 6%. That leaves, as you say, another 6.5% for the next period.
16:01 artifexd Hmmm...
16:02 artifexd Looking at http://bitcoin.sipa.be/ it does look like the increase is slowing down.
16:02 assbot Bitcoin network graphs
16:02 mircea_popescu well i mean sure, it could be over six. just as well, it could not be. on the yes side, the observation that diff keeps increasing. on the no side, the observation that no trend lasts forever.
16:03 mircea_popescu which is why 13:1 seems wild to me, but perhaps my odds brain is too steeped in fiat.
16:03 artifexd Yep. You sold me. I'm going to put a couple btc on no.
16:03 mircea_popescu it's rare for a horse to be at 13:1 for instance.
16:03 mircea_popescu and even 3:1 winners are rare
16:04 BingoBoingo Well, horses also tend to come with more names than "yes" and "no"
16:05 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo suppose you split the whole run into two teams or something, i dunno.
16:05 mircea_popescu http://38.media.tumblr.com/7b48e00dff87be1e7776655d88cc1502/tumblr_n7lckwocCE1tzcq6mo1_400.gif have a gif of a girl having fun instead.
16:08 artifexd ;;tslb
16:09 gribble Time since last block: 18 minutes and 56 seconds
16:10 RagnarDanneskjol you sure thats a girl
16:11 mircea_popescu hm.
16:11 RagnarDanneskjol iffy
16:11 mircea_popescu micropenis & tiniballs ?
16:12 RagnarDanneskjol could be
16:12 mircea_popescu well, i'm of the "if it feels like a girl it is a girl" school of heterosexuality.
16:13 RagnarDanneskjol ahahaha
16:13 asciilifeform 'eat recycled food...'
16:13 mircea_popescu all food is recycled, what do you think the plants do ?
16:13 mircea_popescu suck up the shit make an apple.
16:14 asciilifeform well, there's recycled and recycled.
16:14 asciilifeform (familiar with origin of english word 'shoddy' ?)
16:14 mircea_popescu quite my point.
16:14 mircea_popescu nope ?
16:15 mircea_popescu o look at that, apparently it's civil war for bad bandage
16:15 asciilifeform http://www.historyhouse.co.uk/articles/shoddy.html
16:15 assbot What is Shoddy?
16:19 kakobrekla so basically its 90% fertilizer and 10% cloth
16:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12402 @ 0.00077522 = 9.6143 BTC [-]
16:19 mircea_popescu pity they couldn't make social media sites out of it back them
16:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7598 @ 0.00077114 = 5.8591 BTC [-]
16:21 penguirker New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/solo-mine-bitcoin-without-node-ckpool-org/
16:23 Bet placed: 2 BTC for No on "BTC Difficulty over 31Bn before October" http://bitbet.us/bet/1028/ Odds: 91(Y):9(N) by coin, 88(Y):12(N) by weight. Total bet: 90.86707126 BTC. Current weight: 26,762.
16:28 artifexd ^ There's my bet
16:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 13 @ 0.177 = 2.301 BTC [-] {2}
16:38 ThickAsThieves sry for your loss
16:38 ben_vulpes betting against diff
16:38 ben_vulpes ye boyeee
16:39 ThickAsThieves ;;estimate
16:39 gribble Next difficulty estimate | None based on data since last change | 28524041524.0 based on data for last three days
16:39 ThickAsThieves gribble is not reliable
16:39 ThickAsThieves https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty
16:39 assbot Bitcoin Difficulty and Hashrate Chart - BitcoinWisdom
16:39 ThickAsThieves use that
16:41 mircea_popescu !up tryphe
16:41 ThickAsThieves shit i didnt realize i never placed a bet on that one
16:42 mircea_popescu lol
16:42 mircea_popescu you boys be getting complacent ? BingoBoingo said the same thing
16:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.17500001 = 1.4 BTC [-] {2}
16:43 ThickAsThieves i think what happened was i looked at it several times thinking, nah, no way it gets that high, and then feeling my brain pump chemical memories of when i bet against diff before and lost 50btc, so i abstained
16:44 ben_vulpes betting with btc
16:44 ben_vulpes call me a poorfag, but i don't get the risk.
16:45 ThickAsThieves it's not just betting (we tell ourselves)
16:45 ThickAsThieves you can hedge other invetsments, etc
16:45 ThickAsThieves i believe nubbins has done such explicitly by creating the bet he needed
16:46 ThickAsThieves i mean all investing is speculation, right?
16:46 ThickAsThieves just degrees
16:48 pete_dushenski labvakar (good evening) from riga!
16:48 artifexd bitcoinwisdom certainly paints a picture of "I be a fool". In their whole history of difficulty increases, there have never been two consecutive difficulty increases that added up to less than 12%.
16:49 ThickAsThieves <+pete_dushenski> labvakar (good evening) from riga! /// they have internet there?
16:49 pete_dushenski ThickAsThieves: after the wall came down, it's like a new country!
16:49 ThickAsThieves artifexd, it's not the worst risk/reward
16:49 ThickAsThieves but yeah, a tight one...
16:50 ThickAsThieves i tried to get nanotube to change how gribble does diff, but he's happy as it is
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17:11 pete_dushenski twas nice of mircea_popescu to (seemingly unintentionally) trick artifexd into contributing to the 31bn diff fund.
17:12 pete_dushenski that'd be incredible if hashrate went to sub-200k and stayed there for the next 5 days
17:12 pete_dushenski but ya never know
17:12 pete_dushenski ;;nethash
17:12 gribble 203975460.22
17:13 pete_dushenski artifexd:^ There's my bet << so giving to teh community, this guy
17:14 pete_dushenski so anyways, latvia...
17:14 pete_dushenski and, as it so happened, lithuania
17:14 penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/the-private-lives-of-pippa-lee-or-what-happens-to-the-old-whore/
17:15 pete_dushenski riga is worth a visit: fine food, reasonable prices, beautiful young women, appealing architecture
17:15 artifexd I remain satisfied with my bet. No regrets yet.
17:15 pete_dushenski definitely a few days worth of exploring to do here
17:15 pete_dushenski jurmala (not your mama) is just 20km west and is the wealthy beach resort/bedroom community for riga, also well worth a visit
17:16 pete_dushenski there's some of the most interesting residential architecture i've seen anywhere there
17:16 pete_dushenski artifexd: it's only been 30 mins ;)
17:17 artifexd Yeah. We'll see how I feel in 5 days.
17:18 pete_dushenski kaunas, lithuania was an unexpected surprise. picturesque layout and a couple of local universities made for a lively nightlife
17:18 pete_dushenski artifexd: mhm
17:25 mircea_popescu pete_dushenski fuck me i was just speaking extemporaneously
17:26 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: well maybe you'll be more careful next time
17:26 pete_dushenski some people actually give weight to your words ;)
17:26 asciilifeform http://cryptome.org/2014/09/nsa-14-0902.pdf
17:26 pete_dushenski in the logs, it reads like a fisherman toying with his catch before gutting him
17:27 asciilifeform mega-lol. might as well sue to get official naked picture of the fuhrer.
17:27 mircea_popescu <pete_dushenski> riga is worth a visit: fine food, reasonable prices, beautiful young women, appealing architecture << all true.
17:28 asciilifeform http://imgur.com/Gy3pLkp << de-pdf'ed
17:28 assbot suite a - Imgur
17:28 mircea_popescu o for crying out loud. gutting my foot.
17:29 pete_dushenski lol
17:29 pete_dushenski don't gut your foot now, i imagine it'd hurt
17:29 mircea_popescu asciilifeform lulzy
17:30 mircea_popescu "dear nsa. please give me cookies. ty."
17:30 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: one can see why riga's popular with the british stag parties, russian biznessmen, and german tourists
17:31 artifexd I don't want anybody to feel bad. If I lose the 2btc it is not going to come close to affecting my net worth at all. As tat says, the risk/reward seems about right.
17:32 asciilifeform if nsa were girl... 'suite a' would be - the whole orchestra. or not even sure what.
17:33 mircea_popescu asciilifeform if nsa were a girl, it wouldn't be asking for nudies, nor for a fuck, nor for a blowjob during superball, in the parking lot.
17:33 mircea_popescu it'd be "please cut off your clit, put it in a sushi roll and mail it to me"
17:33 asciilifeform lol
17:33 asciilifeform yes.
17:33 asciilifeform approximately - this.
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17:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1500 @ 0.00060147 = 0.9022 BTC [-] {7}
17:58 mthreat https://twitter.com/mthreat/status/509445812682649600
17:58 assbot Ok who's gonna be the first to put several Apple watches on his penis and make a teledildonics app?
17:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.1742419 = 0.5227 BTC [-] {3}
18:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.17266998 = 1.7267 BTC [-] {7}
18:04 RagnarDanneskjol !up RagnarsBitch
18:18 ThickAsThieves so this 1btcxe challenge is by CFIG, which is Havelock?
18:19 ThickAsThieves see latest post https://www.havelockinvestments.com/
18:19 assbot Havelock Investments
18:20 ThickAsThieves which is probly also these guys https://cryptocapital.co/
18:20 assbot Crypto Capital | Merging the Fiat & Crypto World | Exchanges, Investors, Traders
18:20 ThickAsThieves interesting scrolly web design...
18:21 ThickAsThieves must be a template cuz the logo sucks and doesnt match at all
18:28 penguirker New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/first-bitcoin-teller-machine-san-francisco/
18:35 TheNewDeal ;;ticker
18:35 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 474.2, Best ask: 474.87, Bid-ask spread: 0.67000, Last trade: 474.88, 24 hour volume: 8864.99346706, 24 hour low: 459.18, 24 hour high: 476.4, 24 hour vwap: 467.204371193
18:37 asciilifeform btc atm... 'Cash in and cash out' << clearly funded by u.s. mint, where they'd like to learn what the state of the art in fooling automated benjamin testers is.
18:38 TheNewDeal please explain
18:38 asciilifeform TheNewDeal: machine, in theory, pisses out btc when you insert usd ?
18:38 asciilifeform TheNewDeal: hooligan inserts counterfeit usd, walks away with btc.
18:38 TheNewDeal so the idea is to try and forge a benjamin and get a real currency in return?
18:39 TheNewDeal gotcha
18:39 TheNewDeal Although I think if you could produce that quality of a bill, you most likely wouldn't have a problem giving it out to others (non btc atm owners)
18:39 jurov do i see right the camera on top of that bitcoin-teller-machine ?
18:40 asciilifeform jurov: there's traditionally a camera on u.s. atms.
18:40 jurov til
18:40 asciilifeform jurov: this is why scammers, thieves, etc. put on mask.
18:41 asciilifeform TheNewDeal: the bar is considerably lower for fooling a machine. (until recently, the readers in american vending machines did not even contain colour cameras.)
18:42 asciilifeform TheNewDeal: likewise, if you give a sham benjamin to a living person, he might cry out for help before you can run off.
18:43 asciilifeform with machine - owner finds out, possibly weeks or months later, when he himself is prosecuted
18:43 jurov well, the same was said to my fellow lamassu owner someone will put colored bills from burglared ATM in, etc.
18:43 jurov surprise, apparently it did not happen yet in half a year
18:43 TheNewDeal what was said jurov?
18:44 asciilifeform right now, btc atm, as i understand, is scarce enough - and likewise scarce are the counterfeiters - that they have not yet met in 'true love' match.
18:44 jurov TheNewDeal: they told him everyone will try to fool the machine
18:44 asciilifeform but picture if you were a counterfeiter - could you even wish for a better place to make use of the fakes ?
18:45 jurov well, i suppose they're fachidiots
18:45 TheNewDeal I'm still surprised that you say it's easier to fake a machine than a person
18:45 TheNewDeal would like to see more backup on this
18:45 asciilifeform TheNewDeal: let's suppose you have no idea how the machine works
18:46 asciilifeform (it is, in fact, a well-documented mechanism. but imagine.)
18:46 TheNewDeal this is true, I haven't looked into it
18:46 asciilifeform it is considerably safer to experiment on the machine than on your local bank teller or other live set of eyes.
18:46 asciilifeform machine will accept or reject, but is unlikely to be programmed to rat you out (false alarms, terrible pr) and even if it were - has only a scarce idea who 'you' are (wearing your robber's mask.)
18:46 TheNewDeal I would most definitely agree that
18:47 asciilifeform you can try 1,000 variants until works.
18:48 asciilifeform there was precedent, if i recall: a casino cheat in las vegas, knew exactly what a particular make of usd scanner wanted.
18:48 asciilifeform caught, as one expects, the old-fashioned way - spotted by guard.
18:49 BingoBoingo ATM requires fortress, news at 11
18:50 TheNewDeal that seems risky
18:50 TheNewDeal with an atm, aren't you usually depositing into a bank account ?
18:51 TheNewDeal ;;nethash
18:51 gribble 203975460.22
18:54 jurov TheNewDeal what bank account?
18:54 TheNewDeal If I go to an atm at a casino, and I want to withdraw, where do i withdraw from?
18:55 TheNewDeal not sure how the guy was depositing bills. Maybe it spit out casino chips or something?
18:57 jurov yes. and this btm accepts bills and spits out a slip with btc address or such
18:57 jurov and the other way around
18:57 jurov no bank involved
18:58 BingoBoingo <TheNewDeal> If I go to an atm at a casino, and I want to withdraw, where do i withdraw from? << Not ATM at the casino, gambling machines
18:59 TheNewDeal ooo
19:01 BingoBoingo Casino is an interesting kind of fortress
19:03 cazalla gaming machines are used in au to launder hundreds of millions apparently
19:03 asciilifeform yes - it was: usd in, casino chips out.
19:04 cazalla i wonder if fakes get fed into the machines or if companies like aristocrat have great detection?
19:05 asciilifeform cazalla: read about how such cheats are normally caught.
19:05 asciilifeform cazalla: a casino is an example of a controlled environment. no one comes remotely near a machine - a door, hell, a toilet - without being filmed from several angles
19:05 asciilifeform and his path from the door, to machines, etc. and then out, and possibly to his car - all recorded.
19:06 asciilifeform likewise, with casino, cheat has two basic options - win a little, but have to return many times - or win gigantic barrels, but then intense scrutiny.
19:07 cazalla what they do here to clean the money is feed it in, have a couple spins, withdraw it from machine and it's deemed a win then
19:08 cazalla apparently it's like half the revenue from memory
19:08 asciilifeform unless i somehow misunderstand, btc atm that eats usd removes all of the element of risk from counterfeiting
19:09 asciilifeform which is one more reason why mircea_popescu's prediction from earlier (that the 'saecular authorities' will not molest those who plunder or destroy btc atms) is likely to come true.
19:09 asciilifeform the machines will be blamed for every faux benjamin that turns up, wherever.
19:13 cazalla what's to stop you buying a robocoin, print up some fakes and start draining the machine seeing you're not the one providing the bitcoins it dispenses?
19:13 asciilifeform wait - they actually franchise these ?
19:14 asciilifeform lol!
19:15 assbot Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3SK6EXX.txt )
19:15 BingoBoingo !b 3
19:15 jurov cazalla afaik owner is responsible for cash management himself
19:15 cazalla well they provide the liquidity from exchanges compared to say a lamassu where the owner provides the coins and it can go empty
19:15 jurov they are not that foolhardy
19:16 mircea_popescu <ThickAsThieves> must be a template cuz the logo sucks and doesnt match at all <<< looks like it.
19:16 jurov but do they exchange btc for cash? i doubt that, i think owner has to bring the cash to bank and wire them
19:16 cazalla why would you want cash though?
19:17 mircea_popescu <jurov> til << this is the case in slovakia too. look around.
19:17 jurov yes, but camera is not in the front of face
19:17 jurov it's usually nearby of atm
19:18 mircea_popescu well ok
19:18 mircea_popescu this must be a compact design
19:18 cazalla i guess you could always step a homeless guy through it and pay him for his time, handprint, ID etc
19:19 mircea_popescu <asciilifeform> with machine - owner finds out, possibly weeks or months later, when he himself is prosecuted << there's really no prosecution. i've had fake bills in the common course of business multiple times all over. it happens.
19:20 mircea_popescu <asciilifeform> you can try 1,000 variants until works. << you can buy one and try safely.
19:20 asciilifeform that also.
19:20 asciilifeform this is how most 'pro' machine diddlers of all kinds roll, incidentally.
19:20 asciilifeform what better than to saw it open and reverse at one's leisure.
19:22 jurov from #monero:
19:22 jurov <jurov> yea i spend 1.5euro/day to make 0.15 let's scale it up!
19:22 jurov <smooth> that's a good margin actualy
19:22 mircea_popescu !s "loss on every sale"
19:22 assbot 1 results for '"loss on every sale"' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=%22loss+on+every+sale%22
19:23 mircea_popescu ha!
19:24 mircea_popescu <cazalla> i guess you could always step a homeless guy << fun fact : police in timisoara started getting bonuses by total fine volume. total fine volume went up. total fine arrears went way up. city hall in hot water over it, turns out...
19:24 mircea_popescu all the bums owed massive fines for all sorts of things.
19:25 mircea_popescu romanian law is quite permissive : if he can't pay and has no income, you can convict the guy to community service.
19:25 mircea_popescu if he doesn't show up... well... that's a fine.
19:26 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: in usa, never such a problem. they'd simply confiscate houses, cars, mattresses of money, until shortfall vanishes.
19:27 mircea_popescu these were town cops, recently created, coed force, most of the girls ex hookers.
19:27 mircea_popescu i actually got blown by policewoman off main square just for the pedigree.
19:28 asciilifeform lol!
19:29 mircea_popescu so i leave there and come here, right ? guess what. the town is creating its own town police force, to escape from federal jurisdiction.
19:29 mircea_popescu it's like a time threadmill.
19:30 cazalla mircea_popescu, hilarious
19:30 mircea_popescu it's something else, their uniform actually included heels.
19:31 mircea_popescu the ro ones i mean.
19:31 jurov we even have an euphemism "social worker" exactly for this
19:31 mircea_popescu im all in favour, incidentally. what are the girls to do ?
19:32 * asciilifeform pictures a future, arabian btc atm, with built-in hand chopper for those who trip some alarm or other.
19:33 mircea_popescu nobody'd use it.
19:33 asciilifeform nobody'd use it << who the hell wants to use today's, with its palm scanner ?
19:33 asciilifeform almost as discouraging.
19:34 mircea_popescu uh ?
19:34 jurov i'd prefer it'd accept teeth.. iirc mircea asserted they are very hard to fake
19:35 mircea_popescu dude, you ever got blown ? palm scanner != hand chopper just like being sucked off != having your cock bit off.
19:35 mircea_popescu palmformation wants to be free damnit.
19:36 jurov actually needs not be cut off. just held fast by vacuum till reinforcements arrive
19:36 mircea_popescu also, to encourage the nwo fighters : here in argentina, you can't have a signature certified by any notary unless you leave a thumbprint on the paper. they have little ink things and errything.
19:39 mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/635/1btc-10-000-usd/
19:39 assbot BitBet - 1BTC >= $10,000 USD :: 75 B (9%) on Yes, 737.19 B (91%) on No | closing in 2 months 1 week| weight: 19`804 (100`000 to 1)
19:39 mircea_popescu 10:1 this and 13:1 that ThickAsThieves ? srsly nao.
19:40 asciilifeform re: automatic punishers, obligatory:
19:40 asciilifeform http://37.media.tumblr.com/ffcf65fd4cdffb7ad94b06e7f870be76/tumblr_moca4vfgiu1qz4yqio1_1280.jpg
19:40 asciilifeform (that's -exactly- how i pictured it. and why herr kafka never gets credit for inventing dot-matrix printer, i'll never understand. this confounded me as a schoolboy.)
19:41 jurov did you ask the teacher?
19:41 asciilifeform what teacher.
19:41 jurov o kafka was your extracurricular activity?
19:41 mircea_popescu you were schoolboy in the lake ?
19:41 asciilifeform lol
19:42 asciilifeform beautiful comic, but missing the gag pad, which is why i even remembered about der strafkolonie - jurov's toothmark authenticator.
19:43 jurov lol that would be good app for ipad
19:43 jurov in line with personal weight
19:44 jurov http://imgur.com/Hayx0
19:44 assbot Some asshole told me I could use my ipad to weigh myself - Imgur
19:46 * jurov goes on binge with crazy iApps: http://krapps.com/2010/04/23/wart-healer-iphone-app/
19:46 assbot Genital Warts? This Amazing iPhone App Can Help! | KRAPPS | a different and funny iPhone app review site
19:47 asciilifeform ''There are straps for the hands here, for the feet here, and for the throat here, to tie him in securely. At the head of the bed here, where the man, as I have mentioned, first lies face down, is this small protruding lump of felt, which can easily be adjusted so that it presses right into the man’s mouth. Its purpose is to prevent him screaming and biting his tongue to pieces. Of course, the man has to let t
19:47 asciilifeform he felt in his mouth—otherwise the straps around his throat would break his neck.” “That’s cotton wool?” asked the Traveler and bent down. “Yes, it is,” said the Officer smiling,“feel it for yourself.”''
19:48 asciilifeform (i. johnston's translation. lifted from http://www.cwrl.utexas.edu/~davis/crs/e321/Kafka-PenalColony.pdf)
19:48 assbot 404 Not Found
19:50 mircea_popescu space after url ftr.
19:50 asciilifeform aha
19:50 jurov http://krapps.com/2011/01/08/sexy-star-wars-pinups/ i'll leave this here
19:50 assbot Sexy Star Wars Pinups - EWWW! | KRAPPS | a different and funny iPhone app review site
19:51 mircea_popescu jurov btw that ro kid ever got in touch ?
19:53 jurov what kid? i forgot
19:54 mircea_popescu the one with the repackaged gentoo or what was it
19:54 mircea_popescu yeah, gentoo
19:55 jurov if he contacted me i'd likely remember
19:56 mircea_popescu kids today are too shy.
19:57 jurov clearly not beaten enough
19:57 assbot Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0KRYEZQ.txt )
19:57 mircea_popescu !b 2
19:57 mircea_popescu zing a zing ding ding ding
19:59 mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9H_vkhc6yFQ << check out this fucking derp.
19:59 assbot PNL: programacin neurolingstica - YouTube
20:00 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: hypnosis ?
20:00 mircea_popescu nlp.
20:06 BingoBoingo Apple naming is retarding, what the fuck is up with a watch, watch edition
20:10 devthedev Who knows? The device seems pretty feature rich though.
20:11 mircea_popescu o, they launched a new isomething ?
20:12 BingoBoingo Yeah, some sort of wrist screen. Three version. watch, watch sport edition, and watch watch edition
20:12 mircea_popescu i think it's a star trek trope this, the magic watch
20:12 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: looks quite like their smallest 'ipod' product, but with straps on.
20:12 mircea_popescu no wait. bond, was it ?
20:13 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: It really does.
20:13 mircea_popescu http://38.media.tumblr.com/927a6345b6090367454dd78b57cbd037/tumblr_n1dw775zW31rmrwgqo1_1280.jpg << somewhat related.
20:13 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: what waveform did you use ?
20:14 mircea_popescu lol not my pic, and it looks like dc.
20:14 asciilifeform banana jack colours can deceive.
20:14 mircea_popescu true this.
20:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HASH] 1000 @ 0.0015 = 1.5 BTC [+] {5}
20:15 mircea_popescu o btw, did i ever tell you how i illustrated the concept of current as a thing to bright young minds ?
20:16 asciilifeform use square wave with no dc offset (or your partner will grumble, chemical burns from hcl)
20:17 asciilifeform salt water is great for electric chair, where the action is over in minutes, but useless here. use the green gel that is sold for eeg machines.
20:17 asciilifeform concept of current ?
20:17 mircea_popescu myeah.
20:17 asciilifeform let's guess - explained via demonstration.
20:18 mircea_popescu get a steppable transformer. wrap packing tin foil around dildo, insert. set transformer to low voltage, short over dildo-clit.
20:18 mircea_popescu set transformer on high voltage, short idem.
20:18 mircea_popescu the burn being the same in both cases, shows that current is current.
20:18 mircea_popescu proceed to explain wattage, voltage, amperage.
20:20 asciilifeform bad demo. meat is not an ideal resistive load.
20:21 mircea_popescu so you only use it on feminist chicklets that think the cunt is an ideal material.
20:21 asciilifeform http://soundlab.cs.princeton.edu/learning/tutorials/sensors/img29.gif
20:21 asciilifeform lol
20:21 mircea_popescu anyway. experimentally it's pretty close, and when coupled with the subjectivistor inside the subject's skull it works fine.
20:22 mircea_popescu (ie, i didn't measure the effects, i inquired as to the effects)
20:23 * asciilifeform used a constant-current amplifier
20:23 asciilifeform http://www.eecs.tufts.edu/~dsculley/tutorial/opamps/opAmpCurrentSource.JPG << like this.
20:23 mircea_popescu was this as part of brain plasticity experiments ?
20:23 asciilifeform byproduct of different experiment.
20:24 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-02-2014#487646
20:24 assbot Logged on 07-02-2014 18:15:28; asciilifeform: confession: at one point when i was younger, i did succumb to the temptation to replicate various soviet experiments and put current through my brain.
20:24 asciilifeform had apparatus left over.
20:24 mircea_popescu lol
20:27 mircea_popescu since we're doing scary biostuff, http://33.media.tumblr.com/f63c5beaf6f9a4f8a2a229ed2e96ed0d/tumblr_n5b4pxJTPB1r4lyg6o1_400.gif
20:27 kakobrekla <assbot> Logged on 07-02-2014 18:15:28; asciilifeform: confession: at one point when i was younger, i did succumb to the temptation to replicate various soviet experiments and put current through my brain. < looks like it worked wonders
20:28 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: that's gotta be fake
20:28 mircea_popescu asciilifeform why ?
20:29 asciilifeform what kind of meat propagates wave like solid block of sorbothane.
20:29 mircea_popescu girlfat ?
20:30 mircea_popescu isn't sorbothane based on studying female thighs anyway ?
20:30 * asciilifeform showed to pet, who believes it's plausible
20:31 mircea_popescu im pretty sure it's factual.
20:31 kakobrekla asciilifeform any particular voltage / current one should aim for?
20:32 asciilifeform kakobrekla: in which experiment.
20:32 mircea_popescu kakobrekla you're not seriously going to do this ?
20:32 asciilifeform kakobrekla: if mircea_popescu's - why ask me. ask your playmates.
20:32 mircea_popescu now listen here kako. i can live with the cardano taking forever. but bitbet gotta stay online.
20:32 asciilifeform lol
20:32 mircea_popescu hehe
20:32 kakobrekla lol
20:33 kakobrekla well ok i wont do it now that you pointed that out
20:33 kakobrekla still curious about the values, ascii?
20:33 asciilifeform kakobrekla: again, values for which. girlfat, or for stage 4 sleep?
20:34 kakobrekla ah sorry i thought that got cleared out. the current through brain.
20:34 mircea_popescu lampelina run honey. i'll keep him busy.
20:34 kakobrekla lol
20:35 asciilifeform kakobrekla: for the latter, i never found a satisfactory setting where i could pronounce the old papers - replicated. but the usual idea is to set 100-200 Hz, square wave (some insist sinusoid instead), constant current (not constant voltage) output, and ramp up from zero.
20:35 kakobrekla logged
20:35 mircea_popescu anyone here know norman spinrad ?
20:36 kakobrekla perhaps we even discussed this in ro but i forgot
20:36 asciilifeform kakobrekla: used own replica of old soviet mask, anode on eyelids, cathode on occiput
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20:36 kakobrekla fun
20:37 mircea_popescu i'd have imagined it'd be temple to temple
20:38 asciilifeform nope. afaik that never worked.
20:38 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Current through the temporal lobes alone likely has undesirable side effects
20:38 asciilifeform americans, if i recall, tried ear-to-ear.
20:38 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo like ?
20:39 asciilifeform (there's a commercial product in usa with earclips, forget which.)
20:39 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Well, temporal lobe is where most of the electical dysfunctions happen in most forms of epilepsy.
20:39 mircea_popescu but you can't give yourself epilepsy
20:40 mircea_popescu hm. i guess if you stress a weak system it may come huh.
20:40 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: actually, there's a way.
20:40 BingoBoingo Called kindling effect
20:40 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i vaguely recall an experiment from the '70s where everyone who was placed in apparatus had seizure. from ordinary flash lamp - but not at the familiar 20hz which sets off known sufferers
20:40 BingoBoingo Accidently yourself enough seizures, they'll start coming on their own.
20:40 mircea_popescu pity one can't resolve vitus' dance by just putting current through to reset things
20:40 asciilifeform but tied to eeg peaks of victim.
20:41 mircea_popescu asciilifeform see, that'd be much better interrogation technique.
20:41 * asciilifeform read this many years ago, and wondered if anyone tried the obvious next step
20:41 asciilifeform that is, record what pattern of flashes is necessary, for average victim, and play back
20:42 asciilifeform Obligatory:
20:42 asciilifeform http://www.infinityplus.co.uk/stories/blit.htm
20:42 assbot BLIT - a short story by David Langford
20:57 mircea_popescu holy shit.
20:57 mircea_popescu apparently there was a case of a symptomatic rabies patient that survived.
20:57 mircea_popescu ;;google milwaukee protocol
20:57 gribble Milwaukee protocol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milwaukee_protocol>; Failure of the Milwaukee Protocol in a Child With Rabies: <http://cid.oxfordjournals.org/content/53/6/572.full>; Rabies may not be the invincible killer we thought - health - 21 June ...: <http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn20593-rabies-may-not-be-the-invincible-killer- (1 more message)
21:05 mircea_popescu "This was their part of town; the women flocked there each morning, twittering in their saris like bright alien canaries."
21:05 mircea_popescu asciilifeform twittering was a word ? who knew.
21:07 ThickAsThieves <+mircea_popescu> 10:1 this and 13:1 that ThickAsThieves ? srsly nao. // is that the 10000btcusd bet odds vs the 31b diff bet odds?
21:07 mircea_popescu yep
21:07 ThickAsThieves 10000btc seems much less likely imo
21:07 mircea_popescu exactly.
21:08 mircea_popescu and it's priced 10:1 which seems reasonable more or less.
21:08 ThickAsThieves i bet Yes
21:09 ThickAsThieves youre welcome whoever... maybe!
21:09 mircea_popescu lol
21:10 ThickAsThieves so i'm playing with this 1BRCXE challenge
21:10 ThickAsThieves where the fuck does the order book come from?
21:11 ThickAsThieves 1BTCXE*
21:11 ThickAsThieves https://1btcxe.com/buy-sell.php
21:11 assbot Login
21:11 ThickAsThieves seems like it might just be a random market excercise and not tied to real market at all
21:12 ThickAsThieves lol:
21:12 ThickAsThieves We won't allow placing buy-limit orders at 20% or more below the market price.
21:12 ThickAsThieves We won't allow placing buy-limit orders at a price below that of the user's sell-stop orders.
21:12 ThickAsThieves We won't allow placing sell-stop orders at a price above that of the user's buy-limit orders.
21:12 asciilifeform mega-lol >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfsWoNpHg2s << had no idea someone had an english translation of this.
21:12 assbot The Volga Boatmen - sung by Paul Robeson - YouTube
21:13 ThickAsThieves "circuit-breaker measures"
21:14 mircea_popescu weirdo arbitrary nonsense.
21:14 mircea_popescu anyway
21:21 thestringpuller !l m s.mpoe
21:21 assbot Last trade for S.MPOE on MPEX was at 0.00077114 BTC [-]
21:21 thestringpuller ;;ticker
21:21 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 474.17, Best ask: 475.47, Bid-ask spread: 1.30000, Last trade: 475.48, 24 hour volume: 9446.51164521, 24 hour low: 459.18, 24 hour high: 476.4, 24 hour vwap: 467.933946682
21:25 BingoBoingo http://valleywag.gawker.com/clinkle-ceos-statement-on-apple-pay-reads-like-a-eulogy-1632726709/+gabriellebluestone
21:25 assbot Clinkle CEO's Statement On Apple Pay Reads Like a Eulogy
21:35 * asciilifeform never heard of a 'clinkle' before - and guesses that it might be a service which lets you nominate people for the clink.
21:35 BingoBoingo It's payment fro smartphones, but by Sound!!!
21:35 asciilifeform snore.
21:36 BingoBoingo Exactly, but it raised 30 million dollars
21:36 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-08-2014#814484
21:36 assbot Logged on 29-08-2014 04:46:41; asciilifeform: mike church was ripped a new arse here, but he had a good piece on how such 'laundries' work
21:37 BingoBoingo Indeed
21:50 BingoBoingo Oh, apparently the brain electricity stuff for sleep et al is being commercialized https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cranial_electrotherapy_stimulation
21:50 assbot Cranial electrotherapy stimulation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
21:50 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: long ago.
21:51 BingoBoingo Well, introduced into the US with approvals recently
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22:13 kakobrekla since we are still on a brain frying subject, is there any explanation to why 100-200hz is the shit
22:13 asciilifeform kakobrekla: last i checked - none that had predictive power (i.e. worth bothering with.)
22:15 kakobrekla mkay
22:15 asciilifeform kakobrekla: latest fashion is magnetically-induced currents.
22:16 asciilifeform for good overview, see wassermann, epstein & ziemann - 'oxford handbook of transcranial stimulation'
22:16 kakobrekla sounds like a beach read
22:17 asciilifeform at this point there's probably a 'for dummies'
22:17 kakobrekla lol
22:17 asciilifeform the machines are now ubiquitous
22:18 asciilifeform (helmholtz coil with plumbing for water - must actively cool - and a power source similar to what one might find in a large stroboscope.)
22:18 asciilifeform i once set about building this one too - but life got in the way.
22:19 asciilifeform if you want one - 'ebay.'
22:20 asciilifeform re: 100hz - i do lean towards the soviet hypothesis that at least a third of the sleep cycle is a vestigial waste of time.
22:20 asciilifeform but i was not able to replicate the famous result of going straight 'to the goods'
22:21 The20YearIRCloud So shock therapy is old?
22:21 asciilifeform 'shock therapy' is entirely different affair
22:21 asciilifeform 10-100x the current.
22:21 asciilifeform induced seizures.
22:22 asciilifeform it, too, is still used. quite popular in usa, i'm told.
22:22 asciilifeform now with anaesthetics, so no more picturesque screaming madman in straps
22:23 asciilifeform just a fellow a few thousand $ poorer and with episodic memory loss.
22:29 TheNewDeal ding ding ding
22:31 The20YearIRCloud How is everyone?
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22:49 TheNewDeal grrrrrrrrreat
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23:48 The20YearIRCloud so how's the exchange doing?
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