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00:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 269 @ 0.00620204 = 1.6683 BTC [+] {4}
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00:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36500 @ 0.00075723 = 27.6389 BTC [-] {2}
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01:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10172 @ 0.00076502 = 7.7818 BTC [+]
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02:14 jdanks ben_vulpes: jdanks: do you wash your eggs? << I rinse them with water and scrub them with a brush if there is shit or yolk from borked eggs. no bleachin or anything unnatural
02:15 ben_vulpes im mostly interested in the shell + external coating integrity
02:16 jdanks you take them as calcium supplements?
02:17 BingoBoingo washed eggshells tend to be more permeable and allow enhanced opportunities for contamination.
02:17 jdanks that's what i hear, but what can ya do really? people don't like poop
02:18 jdanks i've heard of a few grandmas who will just crack an egg straight into a pan and scoop the poop out if it falls in accidentally. gross that i've heard that more than once imo
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02:48 punkman washed eggs don't keep long, 'tis folk wisdom
02:50 punkman jdans, just brushing them should be better
03:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30122 @ 0.00076064 = 22.912 BTC [-]
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03:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15578 @ 0.00076097 = 11.8544 BTC [+] {2}
03:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15521 @ 0.00076167 = 11.8219 BTC [+]
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03:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00076167 = 4.4939 BTC [+]
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04:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32000 @ 0.00076098 = 24.3514 BTC [-] {2}
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05:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10910 @ 0.00076167 = 8.3098 BTC [+]
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05:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 82 @ 0.179 = 14.678 BTC [-] {3}
05:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18200 @ 0.00076403 = 13.9053 BTC [+]
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06:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00075975 = 6.23 BTC [-]
06:54 mircea_popescu heh look at that, xapo traded. iiiincredible
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07:56 penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/bulwer-lytton/
07:59 xmj moin
08:06 nubbins` hi
08:07 nubbins` new blog post, in which mp discovers marijuana
08:13 mircea_popescu fu i discovered marijuana before you were born!
08:13 mircea_popescu eleventy
08:16 * nubbins` raises eyebrows
08:16 nubbins` 3yo romanian kid smoking weed
08:17 nubbins` eastern yoorup isn't what i thought it was
08:19 jurov what didja thought?
08:20 kakobrekla by 3 he got out of rehab
08:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12201 @ 0.00075991 = 9.2717 BTC [+]
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08:57 mircea_popescu !s roth
08:57 assbot 8 results for 'roth' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=roth
08:57 nubbins` "tim roth, pre-tupac"
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09:20 kakobrekla http://www.theverge.com/2014/9/15/6151477/microsoft-minecraft-mojang-acquisition
09:20 assbot Microsoft confirms it will buy 'Minecraft' for $2.5 billion | The Verge
09:26 mircea_popescu wtf. what's wrong with those suckers, didn't they hear some shitty app sold for 120 bn ?
09:27 mircea_popescu minecraft is popular and everything
09:28 penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/un-prophete/
09:36 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: do you know how many copies minecraft has sold?
09:36 thestringpuller ;;google minecraft sales
09:36 gribble Minecraft Stats: <https://minecraft.net/stats>; Minecraft - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minecraft>; Minecraft Console Sales Pass PC, Series Nears 54 Million Copies ...: <http://www.gamespot.com/articles/minecraft-console-sales-pass-pc-series-nears-54-million-copies-sold/1100-6420724/>
09:36 mircea_popescu i know watsapp sold ~0, so there is that.
09:36 thestringpuller exactly
09:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 394 @ 0.00172561 = 0.6799 BTC [-] {23}
09:37 thestringpuller lol minecraft is valued less though it generates more revenue than an application that doesn't generate any revenue at all...
09:37 mircea_popescu so why im saying, total idiots sellign for 2.5 bn. what's wrong with 1.5 trillion ?
09:41 thestringpuller cause notch isn't a ceo...
09:41 thestringpuller http://pastebin.com/n1qTeikM
09:41 assbot I'm leaving Mojang I dont see myself as a real game developer. I make game - Pastebin.com
09:42 thestringpuller notch is like the woz of games...
09:43 mircea_popescu poster child for the puritan failure to create a worldview.
09:44 thestringpuller how so?
09:45 mircea_popescu dja know who mehmed 2 was ?
09:46 thestringpuller the conquerer?
09:46 thestringpuller i learned about him in school...
09:47 mircea_popescu mkay. he was made a sultan at 13. the hungarians did some elaborate mental gymnastics to arrive at the conclusion that breaking their treaty was not really breaking their treaty.
09:47 mircea_popescu the 13 yo sultan wrote to his long retired father, "if you are the sultan, come and lead the army. if i am the sultan, i command you to come and lead my army"
09:48 mircea_popescu your english speaking "computer geek" is less able than a 13 yo barely literate ottoman.
09:48 thestringpuller i see.
09:48 thestringpuller yes. so he has microsoft lead his army?
09:48 mircea_popescu who actually lived before calvin was even invented.
09:49 mircea_popescu microsoft is a ladislaw-huniyad meld looking for its varna.
09:52 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: you remind me of Alhazen
09:53 mircea_popescu well i don't have the good hats.
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10:22 ben_vulpes hunyadi?
10:24 mircea_popescu yea that
10:25 ben_vulpes http://i.imgur.com/EdiGnlU.jpg
10:26 mircea_popescu why's obama being helped down the stairs lol
10:26 nubbins` putin dgaf about helping the queen down the stairs
10:26 nubbins` hahah
10:26 nubbins` they're starting a congo line, guy in the back left
10:27 mircea_popescu anyway, merkel kicks ass in that pic.
10:27 mircea_popescu if i were her that's what i'd put on twitter.
10:27 nubbins` yep
10:27 nubbins` calculating the fallout from a hard shove
10:28 mircea_popescu nah, she's like, being propositioned by the frenchies
10:28 mircea_popescu and she's like ^-*
10:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19199 @ 0.00076147 = 14.6195 BTC [+] {2}
10:29 nubbins` putin is funnier the more i look
10:29 nubbins` ;;google the cheese stands alone
10:29 gribble The Farmer in the Dell - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Farmer_in_the_Dell>; The Cheese Stands Alone - Gatherer - Wizards of the Coast: <http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=9773>; The Cheese STANDS ALONE!!!!!!! - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eetCbW2iI4Y>
10:30 mircea_popescu anyway, the queen totally fucking lost it. i mean seriously, capot inflorat with gloves and hat ?
10:30 nubbins` it's a shame they don't put that shit on the money
10:33 nubbins` guy in -otc looking for "investors" so he can buy some sort of mining hw
10:33 mircea_popescu wcpgw.
10:33 nubbins` his btcjam profile has two "recommendations" from friends. the second one commences thus:
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10:33 nubbins` "He is good at selling weed, fucking lolitas and doing magic with linux"
10:34 mircea_popescu o.O
10:34 nubbins` my sides
10:34 mircea_popescu is this the new street cool btw ? weed, lolitas and linux ?
10:34 mircea_popescu WLL, the MLLnium generation ?
10:34 nubbins` selling weed is only cool in the eyes of teenage girls
10:34 nubbins` ;;google willennium
10:34 gribble Willennium - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willennium>; Amazon.com: Willennium: Music: <http://www.amazon.com/Willennium-Will-Smith/dp/B000031XCS>; Will Smith - Will 2k (Willennium) - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6Rms5J7nGI>
10:39 pete_dushenski ;;later tell jurov is it still causing havoc? i'm using the only coinbr referral code i have…
10:39 gribble The operation succeeded.
10:39 pete_dushenski http://contravex.com/2014/09/14/peter-diamandis-is-a-lab-modified-organism/
10:39 assbot Peter Diamandis Is A Lab Modified Organism | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski
10:40 pete_dushenski ^because penguirker no me gusta
10:40 pete_dushenski affairs being tended to, good morning!
10:41 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: heh look at that, xapo traded. iiiincredible << yw ;)
10:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17450 @ 0.00075707 = 13.2109 BTC [-] {2}
10:50 pete_dushenski https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leZHiNnBpVk
10:50 assbot ABC "After These Messages We'll Be Right Back" Cowboy - 1988 Bumper - YouTube
11:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47900 @ 0.00075577 = 36.2014 BTC [-] {2}
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11:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16727 @ 0.00075551 = 12.6374 BTC [-]
11:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67381 @ 0.00075259 = 50.7103 BTC [-] {4}
11:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13800 @ 0.00075596 = 10.4322 BTC [+]
11:44 chetty http://welfaretales.wordpress.com/
11:44 assbot Benefit tales | stories from the frontline of benefit changes in the UK in 2013.
11:53 mircea_popescu http://welfaretales.wordpress.com/2014/09/09/212000-people-beaten-up-for-being-on-benefits-shocking-survey-reveals/
11:53 assbot 212,000 People Beaten Up For Being On Benefits, Shocking Survey Reveals | Benefit tales
11:53 mircea_popescu better link
11:53 mircea_popescu 200k is just the beginning.
11:58 pete_dushenski heh
12:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 5.18644588 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 451 satoshi per share
12:00 mircea_popescu sooo for some uncomp[rehensible reason, <a href=http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OlderThanTheyLook‎> from trilema does not lead to the page, but to the main page
12:00 mircea_popescu i guess tvtropes loses all its trilema links now.
12:01 jdanks could be some kind of apache mod_rewrite rules
12:01 pete_dushenski https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8nhAlfIk3QITzRldUlkaUgyR3c/edit
12:01 assbot PCParity3.pdf - Google Drive
12:01 pete_dushenski ^Unique Option Pricing Measure With Neither Dynamic Hedging nor Complete Markets, by Taleb
12:02 mircea_popescu jdanks yes, it is, quite clearly, because if you search for the page title and go from google it delivers it
12:02 mircea_popescu but if you go to the same url directly it does not
12:02 mircea_popescu which sort of idiotic ineptitude is exactly why things becoming popular has such a bad name.
12:02 mircea_popescu it used to be a great resource five years ago, back when nobody knew about it.
12:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.29789742 BTC to 15`398 shares, 8429 satoshi per share
12:03 mircea_popescu then derps started to edit articles, because hey, derps wanna be part of things, resulting in a marked decrease in quality over time. by now, derps are "managing" things, because hey, derp gotta derp.
12:03 pete_dushenski https://twitter.com/nntaleb/status/511306451919568897 << or with mircea_popescu to eradicate bitcoin
12:03 assbot The US partnering with Saudi Arabia to eradicate Islamic intolerance is equivalent to partnering with John Gotti to eradicate the mafia.
12:03 mircea_popescu im so sick of this equalitarian world it can't be put into words.
12:04 mircea_popescu pete_dushenski say wut ?
12:04 mircea_popescu o ic
12:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ROCK] [PAID] 4.55446000 BTC to 455`446 shares, 1000 satoshi per share
12:04 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: lol ya
12:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23653 @ 0.00075633 = 17.8895 BTC [+]
12:11 mike_c you think they put in a mod_rewrite for trilema that redirects to homepage? that makes little sense.
12:11 pete_dushenski jurov: “The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately 10% of the human race.” << this is dr. strangelove's mineshaft proposal, neh?
12:12 mircea_popescu mike_c more like, if not from our page or google, redirect
12:12 peterl and word on when F.DERP will start trading?
12:12 mircea_popescu tbh i don't care specifically what they did, they're not paying me to consult. i just care i clicked a link in an article and it doesn't go now where it go when i put it there, so that's that : out goes the link and the venue is banned
12:13 mircea_popescu peterl started a while back neh ?
12:13 mike_c link on this page works for me: http://trilema.com/2009/in-calitate-de-antropolog/
12:13 assbot In calitate de antropolog pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
12:13 mircea_popescu for me 2.
12:14 mircea_popescu http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OlderThanTheyLook‎ << where does this take you ?
12:14 assbot Home Page - Television Tropes & Idioms
12:14 mircea_popescu aha.
12:14 mircea_popescu ;;google OlderThanTheyLook‎
12:14 gribble Main/Older than They Look - Television Tropes & Idioms: <http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OlderThanTheyLook>; OlderThanTheyLook/REALLIFE - Television Tropes & Idioms: <http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/OlderThanTheyLook/REALLIFE>; 10 Celebrities Who Are Older Than You Think | Women's Health ...: <http://www.womenshealthmag.com/life/celebrities-older-than-they- (1 more message)
12:14 mike_c they banned assbot too! :)
12:14 peterl mircea_popescu: is it trading? it looks like there has been no activity since it was listed, and no asks?
12:14 mircea_popescu same fucking url.
12:15 mircea_popescu peterl well sure, that's entirely up to the market.
12:15 mircea_popescu technically it's trading, but in business terms it seems no one wants to buy
12:15 mircea_popescu which... i have nfi when will people want to start taking derp exposure, but possibly never.
12:16 peterl is jurov here?
12:26 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: 's quite vast. gargantua & pantagruel around the world in 80 days can even be done straight in french. for canadians. << would definitely enjoy this!
12:27 mircea_popescu maybe fart powered balloon to satisfy the south park canadian stereotype
12:28 pete_dushenski and celine dion cameo
12:30 mircea_popescu she could be credited as celine dijon.
12:32 rithm celine dion's body of talent as a singer is amazing.
12:32 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
12:33 mircea_popescu now with real mustard seeds!
12:33 rithm she has a sexy nose too
12:34 mircea_popescu that's just a jewish trick.
12:34 mircea_popescu her real nose is hidden away in a chest in her house.
12:35 ThickAsThieves http://dpaste.com/335P68J
12:35 assbot dpaste: 335P68J: Bitfinex Introduces Mining Contracts, by tat
12:35 ThickAsThieves you can short and leverage and margin etc
12:36 kakobrekla so another short only cex like asset
12:36 ThickAsThieves oh here's the real page https://www.bitfinex.com/pages/announcements/?id=23
12:36 mircea_popescu so basically they've just copied that havelock thing w/e it was
12:37 mircea_popescu https://www.facebook.com/LAFModel < not bad.
12:37 ThickAsThieves well they claim to actually mine
12:38 ThickAsThieves not sure why to bother
12:38 ThickAsThieves probly just one more place to skim
12:39 mircea_popescu the problem with this thing is you can't fucking deliver hashes.
12:40 mircea_popescu "Female genital mutilation is a bigger problem than male genital mutilation because women love their vaginas and men love vaginas"
12:40 mircea_popescu this is such bs. for one thing, dudes kinda love cocks, which is how all the faux gay stuff got started. for the other, all the women i know love the c0k.
12:40 mircea_popescu they like their vaginas, sure, about like a dude likes his cock
12:41 RagnarDanneskjol lol
12:41 kakobrekla you deliver hash to 'a pool'. you can own 'a pool'
12:41 mircea_popescu kakobrekla you can't. the pool doesn't actually know how much hash you do.
12:41 kakobrekla can make a good estimate
12:42 kakobrekla if you make sat hash - who cares
12:42 mircea_popescu see, here's the problem. suppose i contract to deliver you x hash. your only way to measure this is by how many blocks you solve, or by how much work i ask for.
12:42 mircea_popescu i can ask for as much work as i want
12:42 mircea_popescu !up qq1932
12:42 mircea_popescu and if i get lucky and solve more than the exact number, i just got some spare hash now
12:42 mike_c this is solved with shares, yes?
12:42 mircea_popescu not really that i know.
12:42 kakobrekla >or by how much work i ask for. < noone in the right mind does this
12:42 mike_c you report block solutions that aren't good enough but close.
12:42 mircea_popescu kakobrekla how would you meter it ?
12:43 mircea_popescu mike_c hmmm
12:43 kakobrekla you report back shares with diff larger than x
12:43 kakobrekla x is settable
12:43 qq1932 (hi, thanks. I'm the same startup founder as before previous, don't have anything specific to say but connected with a couple of people here.)
12:43 mircea_popescu yeah im totally wrong, you can actually deliver hash.
12:43 mircea_popescu hi qq.
12:43 qq1932 hi, mircea.
12:43 qq1932 what's new?
12:44 mircea_popescu so which one of you wants to run the atc p2pool for btc and do the delivery part of a mpex traded fully delivered hash future ?
12:44 mike_c interesting
12:44 ThickAsThieves intresting detail, the shorters have to pay the divs
12:45 kakobrekla lol
12:45 kakobrekla and leverage, over 9000?
12:45 mircea_popescu mike_c the problem, of course, being that instadelivery of hash is not possible.
12:45 ThickAsThieves 4:1 with 8:1 likely
12:46 mike_c also, that you actually need the hash to deliver, which is difficult because you have to keep adding power to be relevant.
12:47 mircea_popescu this is so fucking resistent, this problem.
12:47 kakobrekla i can see them turning off the supposed miners in a few months and let this be completely fictional
12:47 mircea_popescu i mean, the most you can get is a pre-sale or reserve-a-miner website, which already exists.
12:49 mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CB6TiRJNI-Q dad spiderwoman butt is not so bad
12:49 assbot Spider-Woman's Big Ass is a Big Deal! - YouTube
12:49 kakobrekla you have to keep adding power to be relevant. < this depends on the her Moore
12:49 kakobrekla herr*
12:49 mike_c he hasn't quit yet
12:53 kakobrekla id bet it will before the new block reward goes to 0
12:53 ThickAsThieves lol teenage boys like skin-tight supergirls "for the articles" news at 11!
12:55 ThickAsThieves http://www.coindesk.com/andreas-antonopoulos-joins-e-commerce-company-coinsimple/ this guy has more jobs than an SEO expert
12:55 assbot Andreas Antonopoulos Joins E-Commerce Platform CoinSimple
12:56 ThickAsThieves dude's noteriety is way past spent
12:56 ThickAsThieves notoriety*
12:57 mircea_popescu this is generally how it goes.
12:58 mircea_popescu my favourite example of this business is a gypsy guy by the name viorel lis. at one time the mayor of bucharest, a decade later he was living in the street, but still appearing now and again on tabloid television sets as "an expert" and "ex mayor" for the 2-300 euro fee that brought him
12:58 ThickAsThieves http://imgur.com/NrTEZdl "we can't accept users come form USA, Iran, Cuba and North Korea" lol
12:58 assbot imgur: the simple image sharer
12:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3401 @ 0.00075916 = 2.5819 BTC [+]
12:59 TomServo aha, that's good stuff
12:59 ThickAsThieves further added ""The only reason Iran, Cuba, and North Korea are on that list is because USA sanctioned them - we didn't really have a problem with their regulations." ~ Huobi
13:02 ThickAsThieves there are .29btc of swaps available to short the new bfx mining thing
13:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28000 @ 0.00076085 = 21.3038 BTC [+]
13:02 mircea_popescu the number can be adjusted as needed, i wouldn't worry.
13:03 ThickAsThieves heh
13:03 mircea_popescu http://thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=abc_classy << maddox being stolen from lol.
13:03 mircea_popescu And the Reddit link cites the source as... Reddit of course. Because apparently nobody creates anything anymore, and it all belongs to Facebook, Twitter, Reddit and Instagram, right assholes? Why bother doing journalism when you can wave a magic wand and say "INTERNET DID IT!"
13:10 ThickAsThieves news is no better than a cliche now, no one knows or cares where it comes from before using it
13:11 ThickAsThieves just a testament to its value, not sure if it's as damning as the guy makes it out to be
13:11 mircea_popescu only for the barbarian horde.
13:11 mircea_popescu in general, what distinguishes people from animals is the ability of people to trace history.
13:11 ThickAsThieves really who gves a fuck that some dude notices some shitty news agency being insenstive about some actor
13:11 ThickAsThieves this aint 'history' tho
13:12 ThickAsThieves it's trivia
13:12 mircea_popescu well that's not a fair statement of wat happened, and the noticing is noteworthy for the same reason it's noticed in the first place.
13:12 ThickAsThieves i mean i agree with how he sees it, in and of itself
13:12 mircea_popescu if you don't care about what was noticed it's one thing. to pretend to not care about who noticed tho, it's untenable.
13:13 mircea_popescu thus when bitfinex reimplements that guy's idea but fails to mention that guy, bitfinex is jkust placing itself outside the walls and that's all.
13:13 ThickAsThieves should every new lightbulb pay homage to edison or whomever he had make it?
13:14 nubbins` yes
13:14 ThickAsThieves and then, is not everything an iteration?
13:14 nubbins` i want my toilet to have a per-flush royalty
13:14 nubbins` rubber bands: who do i owe?
13:15 mircea_popescu everything is an iteration, yes. i don't personally care what anyone does, but the thing that distinguishes me from your run of the mill amoeba living on my penis
13:15 mircea_popescu is that my kid will have a name.
13:15 mircea_popescu !up sensorii
13:15 mircea_popescu it's not even a matter of "you must", any more than "you must read a fucking book" when you're 12.
13:15 mircea_popescu it's more a matter that you actually want to.
13:15 ThickAsThieves what is you 10th removed father's name?
13:16 mircea_popescu mircea :D
13:16 ThickAsThieves i figured
13:16 ThickAsThieves hehe
13:16 mircea_popescu lol
13:16 mircea_popescu still you know, showing weakness of implementation does not invalidate the principle
13:16 mircea_popescu pretending to interact with things of unknown origin is a ridiculous position to take.
13:16 ThickAsThieves i appreciate it as a value, just playing the other side here
13:16 mircea_popescu might as well run random code or w/e
13:17 ThickAsThieves the line blurs eventually
13:17 mircea_popescu right, that's what the guy signing for the rape-contract said
13:17 mircea_popescu "i know logix but the line bluered eventually."
13:17 mircea_popescu so now i'm paying for three cars to use one.
13:18 BingoBoingo http://www.people.com/article/urban-outfitters-kent-state-sweatshirt
13:18 assbot Urban Outfitters Kent State Sweatshirt Stirs Anger : People.com
13:18 ThickAsThieves yknow, i dont even know my father's father's first name?
13:18 mircea_popescu well so ask him
13:18 ThickAsThieves for realz
13:19 ThickAsThieves he died fairly young i think so never talked bout
13:19 mircea_popescu #b-a, the source of special father-son moments
13:19 ThickAsThieves his wife wore black her whole life
13:19 ThickAsThieves died in her 80s
13:20 nubbins` goth
13:20 ThickAsThieves portuguese
13:20 mircea_popescu "i know this woman who wore black for some dude her entire life. she was my grandmother. i dun recall the guy's name."
13:20 ThickAsThieves catholic, rather
13:20 nubbins` mp XD
13:20 mircea_popescu nubbins` i knowed a woman that killed herself when her (old) husband died
13:20 nubbins` ;;calc 12500/[ticker --last]
13:21 gribble 26.2687821793
13:21 nubbins` mircea_popescu imagine
13:21 ThickAsThieves my dad doesnt 'talk about shit'
13:21 ThickAsThieves anywho
13:21 mircea_popescu what am i imagining ?
13:21 nubbins` get him high
13:21 ThickAsThieves i'm workin on that
13:21 nubbins` mircea_popescu: uh... the thing you just remembered
13:21 mircea_popescu ah yeah.
13:21 nubbins` habit of speech, just ignore
13:22 ThickAsThieves he's got fibromyalgia after all
13:22 mircea_popescu speaking of high, the pot here is infucking credible.
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13:22 nubbins` oh really? crush up some aleve and sprinkle it in
13:22 ThickAsThieves the pot in Seattle was great
13:22 mircea_popescu what's an aleve ?
13:22 nubbins` mircea_popescu try canada some time
13:22 ThickAsThieves just one kind available tho
13:22 nubbins` aleve = naproxen
13:22 ThickAsThieves naprozen sodium
13:22 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves it may be the case that pot massively improved since i last had any back in the prehistoric times
13:22 ThickAsThieves x
13:23 ThickAsThieves pot is way diff now
13:23 nubbins` yeah, it's all genetics and shit now
13:23 nubbins` leafly.com
13:23 mircea_popescu aha. well then i guess that's what it is. anyway
13:23 ThickAsThieves it's too strong imo
13:23 mircea_popescu well done to potheads, this is like not having any coffee for a decade and then it being like... wait i didn't recall it being like this.
13:23 ThickAsThieves you cant just take a joint of 24% THC to the head, i mean wtf
13:24 nubbins` nooooo
13:24 nubbins` it's all about the one-hitter nowadays
13:24 nubbins` you get fried to death otherwise
13:25 nubbins` or vaporizing. now that's a gentle way to get killed
13:25 ThickAsThieves smoking a joint is just proper imo, the vapes taste nice n all, but make me feel like an addict
13:25 nubbins` mircea_popescu if you didn't have coffee since 2004, you'd probably be surprised that your local shop now offers Ethiopia Chelelektu Kochere instead of "medium roast"
13:26 nubbins` vape high is different, creeps up
13:26 mircea_popescu nubbins` i buy coffee at ouro preto. it's still mocca
13:26 ThickAsThieves nub that's like calling a butterfly a Rhopalocera
13:26 ThickAsThieves same shit
13:27 nubbins` hm
13:27 nubbins` re: coffee or re: pot?
13:27 ThickAsThieves coffee
13:27 chetty Ethiopia Chelelektu Kochere//hipster junks
13:27 nubbins` ah ah. nah man, these single-origin coffees are fucking amazing
13:27 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
13:27 nubbins` i roasted for the better part of a year
13:27 ThickAsThieves i'm no pro
13:28 nubbins` you wouldn't believe the breadth of flavors
13:28 nubbins` coffee has tons of varietals, just like weed
13:28 chetty well I am happy here if I can get it without sugar
13:28 nubbins` HEH
13:29 nubbins` chetty: the flavor descriptions are guaranteed to be over the top, but there's some seriously eye-opening shit out there
13:29 nubbins` i've roasted beans that have tasted like blueberries
13:30 chetty they roast coffee with sugar here ..to improve the flavor or smthin
13:30 nubbins` where's here?
13:30 mircea_popescu nah it's just because they're nuts
13:30 mircea_popescu with their dolce de leche and sugar generally
13:31 mircea_popescu but anyway. bll.
13:31 nubbins` i've heard of people adding salt to grounds to eliminate bitterness
13:31 nubbins` but a more sensible solution would be, y'know, to prepare your cup in such a way that it's not so bitter in the first place
13:35 ThickAsThieves even worse than bitter is a sour espresso
13:35 ThickAsThieves that's the extent of my noob coffee experience
13:37 nubbins` oo yeah, you've got what, 30s to get that espresso to your lips?
13:37 nubbins` shit, if they take too long pulling the shot you're fucked
13:38 nubbins` but srsly tho, if you're making coffee in a drip machine, try to find a pour-over device
13:38 nubbins` they're cheap as shit and they make the best coffee
13:42 ben_vulpes what the fuck is with outlook users and blue email text?
13:44 mike_c it's the default font. what's wrong with blue? it's soothing.
13:44 nubbins` ^
13:44 nubbins` blue 10pt calibri
13:45 nubbins` it's professional.
13:45 nubbins` big companies like blue. don't you want your company to be big? have some blue.
13:50 thestringpuller nubbins`: i got a connect with zumiez
13:50 thestringpuller when he meets with home office for the 2015 FY i may have a huge order for you
13:50 thestringpuller what is the max you can print in a single order?
13:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 800 @ 0.00066108 = 0.5289 BTC [-] {8}
13:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3276 @ 0.00076085 = 2.4925 BTC [+]
13:54 diametric mircea_popescu, asciilifeform: http://www.seeedstudio.com/wiki/FST-01
13:54 assbot FST-01 - Wiki
13:57 ThickAsThieves "We predict that Bitcoin’s lasting legacy will be the innovations it has spurred to payment technology, although the payment system will remain dominated by large processors because of economies of scale."
13:57 ThickAsThieves http://www.bostonfed.org/economic/current-policy-perspectives/2014/cpp1404.htm
13:58 assbot Bitcoin as Money? - Boston Fed
13:59 ben_vulpes thestringpuller i did a pile of bare metal automation for them once upon a time
13:59 nubbins` thestringpuller few hundred i suppose, there's a point where larger shops w/ automatic presses would offer better pricing
14:01 thestringpuller but i'd rather you get the benefit of the business nubbins`
14:01 nubbins` well tyvm!
14:01 thestringpuller if you can recommend a shop and they give you a cutback on the order "finders fee" or something i would consider
14:03 thestringpuller ben_vulpes: interesting
14:03 thestringpuller automated screen printing presses
14:04 asciilifeform diametric: FST-01 << useful for many purposes, but not crypto. on account of being reflashable via usb.
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14:05 asciilifeform diametric: likewise, no provision for powerline discipline.
14:05 diametric asciilifeform: seems like the TRNG they implement that can be utilized separately might be nice.
14:06 diametric I said might, so I defer to the experts.
14:06 asciilifeform diametric: an adequate trng is incredibly easy to build. but don't use adc noise on a general-purpose micro - is heavy on quantization bias, and easy to nudge from outside.
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14:18 thestringpuller weird tx's announced from my node are taking forever to be picked up by the network...
14:19 jurov thestringpuller: btc? atc?
14:20 punkman holy fucking cargo cult junkie farmers http://pipeline.corante.com/archives/2014/09/15/weirdly_tramadol_is_not_a_natural_product_after_all.php
14:20 thestringpuller jurov btc
14:21 punkman thestringpuller: bitcoin is racist, didn't you know
14:21 thestringpuller yes it is. against white people.
14:21 jurov and i wonder about nigger^W dust transaction spam in debug log
14:21 jurov so it's you!
14:23 thestringpuller in all seriousness my invoice expires in 3 minutes
14:23 punkman ;;seen poutine
14:23 gribble poutine was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 15 weeks, 4 days, 15 hours, 55 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: <poutine> No, but I am developing some cluster based transactional services for it
14:23 thestringpuller and this shit isn't being picked up by the network
14:23 BingoBoingo Nice find punkman
14:23 jurov paste it here, i'll try to feed it my node
14:24 jurov or pm
14:31 jurov by popular request, F.DERP was added to CoinBr
14:31 jurov (sry I forgot)
14:32 jurov ;;calc 4657.83/100000000
14:32 gribble 4.65783e-05
14:32 jurov you'd have to offer more than that for mp to consider selling his precious derp shares
14:36 thestringpuller i thought someone would want to sell derp shares and get rid of them
14:37 ThickAsThieves this is the other side of it
14:38 ThickAsThieves the short side is f.derp
14:38 ThickAsThieves the long is each individual listing
14:38 jurov thestringpuller only mp sold f.derp to himself
14:41 jurov http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-09-2014#823589 and 4 lines below mp answers
14:41 assbot Logged on 09-09-2014 16:03:20; jurov: mircea_popescu when are F.DERP asks starting? or you just sold all of it to yourself? :D
14:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51267 @ 0.00075391 = 38.6507 BTC [-] {3}
14:54 punkman http://cryptome.org/2014/09/giganews-fbi.htm
15:03 thestringpuller coinbase is officially a scam
15:04 thestringpuller ill post this chat into pastebin later
15:04 mike_c they cancel a tx?
15:07 ThickAsThieves you so high risk
15:12 thestringpuller mike_c: when an invoice expires and they generate a new invoice they still send forward coins sent to the expired invoice to the merchant
15:12 thestringpuller thus they create a situation where the merchant will have to refund a purchase if both invoices are filled
15:12 thestringpuller the proper thing to do would be to automatically refund the coins. or hold them in escrow to return to the sendee.
15:13 thestringpuller this is an easy way to create a fraudulent scenario.
15:13 thestringpuller ...
15:15 jurov http://ww2.cfo.com/capital-markets/2014/09/bitcoin-breaks-new-ground-first-regulator-approved-swap/
15:15 assbot Bitcoin Breaks New Ground With First Regulator-Approved Swap - CFO
15:15 jurov frist!
15:16 jurov Martin told the Wall Street Journal that a key to regulatory approval was the proprietary price index, which he called “a true neutral arbiter of the bitcoin price on a 24-hour basis that’s not susceptible to manipulation.”
15:16 jurov rofl
15:17 Apocalyptic I don't even...
15:17 jurov maybe they use that oracle of 9 chumps?
15:17 ThickAsThieves ha1
15:18 mike_c thestringpuller: so they say "send 1 btc to stringpuller in the next 10 mins to buy this book", and if it gets sent in 20 mins they still send along the coins?
15:18 thestringpuller not only that mike_c
15:18 thestringpuller but after 10 minutes
15:19 thestringpuller the original invoice "refreshes" with a new 10 minute window and a new address
15:19 thestringpuller what if I ddose'd the sender
15:19 thestringpuller so that the tx doesn't get announced to a large % of the network quickly thus coinbase doesn't hear it so it keeps refreshing invoices and I send 2 or 3 tx's
15:20 thestringpuller and sender sends*
15:20 mike_c and now the merchant is responsible for returning the coins.
15:20 thestringpuller then i the merchant decide "well i don't feel like refunding you"
15:20 thestringpuller what power does coinbase have?
15:20 thestringpuller except to say "we'll pay out of pocket and not do business with this merchant"
15:20 thestringpuller or whatever
15:20 thestringpuller sounds scammy
15:20 thestringpuller or at least to me ~_~
15:21 thestringpuller ;;seen Namworld
15:21 gribble Namworld was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 days, 8 hours, 37 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: <Namworld> Eh, not really. Day is the same lenght, regardless of sleeping hours
15:21 thestringpuller ;;later tell Namworld send me a ;;later or pm when you next come about
15:21 gribble The operation succeeded.
15:22 mike_c hm, it does sound wrong.. tough problem to get right.
15:24 thestringpuller bitpay at least does escrow
15:24 thestringpuller they also refund coins if there is an overpay
15:24 thestringpuller "this invoice has been overpaid"
15:24 thestringpuller so they recommend you send with an address that can receive change
15:24 mike_c but refund where?
15:24 thestringpuller to the sending address
15:24 thestringpuller like satoshi dice
15:25 thestringpuller they've been doing this for years...
15:25 mike_c to the sending address though, that can cause problems too. it is better, but not great.
15:27 Namworld thestringpuller, pm
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15:48 BingoBoingo http://www.whoisu2.com/
15:48 assbot Who is U2?
15:48 BingoBoingo https://twitter.com/Gladvillian_/status/510805346940895233
15:48 assbot the niggas that took "check out my mixtape" to a whole new level RT /p0psson: Who the fuck is U2?
15:59 jurov !up PeterL
15:59 PeterL jurov, I think you used the wron numbers for F.DERP price
16:00 jurov mp got 100`000`000 shares for 4`657.83 BTC, no?
16:01 PeterL ;;calc (7431-50)/22710945
16:01 gribble 0.000324997484693
16:01 jurov what's that?
16:01 PeterL total assets and total shares
16:01 PeterL from latest f.derp report
16:03 PeterL where did you get 100M shares from?
16:03 jurov oh he bought moar of them, for "nominal value of 32499 satoshi"
16:04 jurov 100M is from prospect
16:05 jurov ;;calc 7431.77251298/0.00032499
16:05 gribble 22867695.969
16:06 thestringpuller should be an even number no?
16:06 thestringpuller should be a whole number*
16:06 jurov you can't ask this from FP maths
16:09 jurov report says 22`710`945 shares
16:11 jurov either mircea_popescu ignored its own prospectus (100`000`000 shares for 4`657.83 BTC) or I'm getting crazy
16:11 jurov due to whole yesterday coding in haskell
16:13 assbot Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3STWPW2.txt )
16:13 BingoBoingo !b 2
16:16 jurov ;;rated PeterL
16:16 gribble You have not yet rated user PeterL
16:16 jurov ;;gettrust PeterL
16:16 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user jurov to user PeterL: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=jurov&dest=PeterL | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=PeterL | Rated since: Wed Apr 16 17:10:12 2014
16:17 jurov ;;rate PeterL diligent guy, deserves a voice
16:17 gribble Error: 'diligent' is not a valid integer.
16:17 jurov ;;rate PeterL 1 diligent guy, deserves a voice
16:17 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user PeterL has been recorded.
16:18 PeterL lol
16:21 jurov aren't you peter lambert?
16:22 jurov ;;seen plambert
16:22 gribble plambert was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 18 weeks, 3 days, 18 hours, 48 minutes, and 29 seconds ago: <PLambert> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2622919/UPS-accidentally-delivers-350K-US-government-DRONE-college-student-ordered-weightlifting-bench.html
16:22 jurov i guess not
16:24 PeterL me? yeah
16:25 PeterL well, I was Peter Lambert on the forum
16:25 PeterL I switched between PLambert and PeterL a few times before settling on PeterL here
16:26 PeterL (and sometimes if I am using webchat and don't log in fast enough I have to come up with a different username)
16:27 jurov and what do you do otherwise?
16:28 PeterL otherwise?
16:28 jurov work, or business
16:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20024 @ 0.00075328 = 15.0837 BTC [-] {2}
16:28 PeterL I'm a chemist, I dabble in bitcoin investments as a hobby
16:29 jurov dealing with explosives?
16:30 jurov !up PeterL
16:31 PeterL not usually explosives, but I have had a few things go up in flames (note: dumping pyrophoric powder into a container of flammable liquid is a bad idea)
16:32 jurov better pour the liquid into the powder...oh wait
16:32 PeterL better to have a nitrogen atmosphere
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16:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13017 @ 0.00075366 = 9.8104 BTC [+]
16:56 BingoBoingo %d
16:56 atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 291952.35 in 1119 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -84.46
16:56 BingoBoingo %p
16:56 atcbot No data returned from CoinMiner.net
16:56 atcbot [PityThePool Hashrate]: 48.87 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 1.04 TH/s
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17:15 RagnarDanneskjol BingoBoingo - is there anyone else to mine the pool other than Rob? Its going to be virtually impossible to validate pool functionality without at least 2 separate miners running non-stop for at least 24 (pref 48 or more) hours
17:16 BingoBoingo RagnarDanneskjol: I guess I can rent a miner.
17:16 RagnarDanneskjol i can too - just hoped someone was already doing it
17:16 RagnarDanneskjol let me see if i can identify some reliable renta-miner ppl
17:17 BingoBoingo What's the pool address. I'll get something aimed at it
17:17 RagnarDanneskjol hang
17:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.18999492 = 3.7999 BTC [+] {6}
17:18 chalbersma 104.131.60.126:8559
17:18 RagnarDanneskjol http://104.131.60.126
17:18 RagnarDanneskjol thx chris - forgot port
17:18 chalbersma You can also use http://72.135.98.192:8559/ as a backup.
17:18 assbot P2Pool
17:18 RagnarDanneskjol k
17:19 chalbersma The second one is running on my home connection I plan to keep it running until we validate and release the p2pool software and more people start running their own copies.
17:20 RagnarDanneskjol wtf i that advert on the bottom of pool?
17:22 RagnarDanneskjol wtf is*
17:22 chalbersma On me personal pool? I need to remove that but that was me initially testing the advertising idea.
17:23 chalbersma 104 shouldn't have an advert
17:23 RagnarDanneskjol I am EXTREMELY suspicious of any cloud-mining operation - they are a barrel or snakes
17:23 RagnarDanneskjol ok
17:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13184 @ 0.00075168 = 9.9101 BTC [-] {2}
17:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4498 @ 0.00075157 = 3.3806 BTC [-]
17:33 ben_vulpes http://thecurioustask.tumblr.com/post/97531244644/visualobscurity-salvador-dali-painting-la-cara << my life in computers
17:33 assbot visualobscurity: Salvador Dali painting La Cara... - Mystery of the Mundane
17:33 ben_vulpes i miss you, princessnell
17:34 BingoBoingo ;;tslb
17:35 gribble Time since last block: 19 minutes and 13 seconds
17:36 BingoBoingo ;;bc,stats
17:36 gribble Current Blocks: 320870 | Current Difficulty: 2.9829733124040417E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 322559 | Next Difficulty In: 1689 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 21 hours, 31 minutes, and 21 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 33095429580.1 | Estimated Percent Change: 10.94779
17:43 kdomanski http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-case-for-kill-switches-in-military-weaponry/
17:43 assbot The Case for Kill Switches in Military Weaponry - Scientific American
17:44 kdomanski next stop: killswitches in all guns (Judge Dredd style), so the "society" can disarm the oh so disagreeable individual
17:45 chalbersma I'm sure the hacking of kill switches will never be used against the soldiers in quesiton.
17:53 BingoBoingo ;;tslb
17:53 chalbersma Somthin something amazing.
17:53 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
17:53 gribble Time since last block: 38 minutes and 6 seconds
18:01 BingoBoingo Alright, rented a ~600gh/s rig and pointed it at the pool for 48 hours
18:02 chalbersma Nice. Thanks!
18:03 chalbersma Just out of curiosity where did you rent from?
18:03 BingoBoingo It's https://www.miningrigrentals.com/rigs/6653
18:03 assbot Mining Rig Rentals | Rigs
18:04 BingoBoingo Before we signed X-Rob it's where we got hash from during the ATC block constipation crisis
18:05 X-Rob I love the name.
18:05 chalbersma Bookmarked
18:06 BingoBoingo SOme rigs there were better than others.
18:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57300 @ 0.00075176 = 43.0758 BTC [+] {3}
18:17 chalbersma BingoBongo, did you miner go down?
18:18 BingoBoingo chalbersma: It's went down a bit
18:18 chalbersma Fair enough.
18:18 chalbersma I'll brb. Got to drive home.
18:20 ben_vulpes ;;calc 780/8
18:20 gribble 97.5
18:21 ben_vulpes why not just 99.99/hr, kid?
18:21 ben_vulpes ;;calc 780/5
18:21 gribble 156
18:21 ben_vulpes ;;calc 2*256
18:21 gribble 512
18:21 ben_vulpes dorp.
18:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41200 @ 0.00075667 = 31.1748 BTC [+] {2}
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18:49 BingoBoingo Wait, and mircea_popescu got banned for razzing Andreas to death? https://twitter.com/FeministaJones/status/511636675311960066
18:49 assbot According to /twitter /Support, a person is not in violation for tweeting things like this http://t.co/UNVkBftY02
19:01 thestringpuller Running the Bitcoin core daemon as a Docker container
19:01 thestringpuller https://medium.com/@abrkn/running-the-bitcoin-core-daemon-as-a-docker-container-7d290affa56b
19:01 assbot Running the Bitcoin core daemon as a Docker container Medium
19:01 thestringpuller http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2ggrgw/running_the_bitcoin_core_daemon_as_a_docker/
19:01 assbot Running the Bitcoin core daemon as a Docker container : Bitcoin
19:02 thestringpuller ben_vulpes: ^^^
19:02 ben_vulpes ya i saw that and was all "goddamnit why didn't i"
19:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1223 @ 0.00071 = 0.8683 BTC [-] {3}
19:04 kdomanski you've got to love how docker almost ships its own OS as bundled dependecies with the source
19:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22138 @ 0.00075142 = 16.6349 BTC [-]
19:12 ben_vulpes kdomanski: come again? i'm not familiar with this notion of "almost shipping"
19:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.18999991 = 0.76 BTC [+]
19:14 ben_vulpes thestringpuller: using EBS for multi-host blockchain is pretty neat
19:15 ben_vulpes now show me the one that builds 0.6 :D
19:16 kdomanski ben_vulpes: s/almost ships/ships what is almost/
19:16 ben_vulpes mhm
19:17 ben_vulpes dat black magic
19:17 kdomanski foreign language grammar?
19:18 ben_vulpes shorthand for "lots of things happening into which i have no insight"
19:21 kdomanski ben_vulpes: nvm, I thought you alluded to my grammar
19:21 ben_vulpes no, no.
19:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 15 @ 0.18999991 = 2.85 BTC [+]
19:22 peterl grammar looks fine to me in the first version
19:23 ben_vulpes docker: css 4.4%
19:23 ben_vulpes that's pretty funny.
19:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 50 @ 0.01055 = 0.5275 BTC [+]
19:28 kdomanski ben_vulpes: a funny conversation I had started with a colleague of mine saying it's a pitty there's no industrial programming language repos on github
19:29 ben_vulpes lolya where's my motoman plc badge!?
19:29 kdomanski so I inquire WTF is an industrial programming language
19:29 kdomanski turns out every vendor's custom scripting lingo is oh so industrial, oh so professional, oh so reliable
19:30 ben_vulpes to the matlab, engineers!
19:30 xmj don't forget robust and scalable
19:30 kdomanski xmj: sorry, my bad
19:30 jdanks matlab! :)
19:30 xmj definitely scalable. horizontally and vertically
19:30 kdomanski bacause you know, out there in the industry bugs kill people and they can't have bugs!
19:31 jdanks i'll start pushing my cfml to git just for you guys
19:31 xmj anyone called the exterminator?
19:31 xmj jdanks: completely fuckedup markup language?
19:31 jdanks haha, coldfusion!
19:31 ben_vulpes alive and kicking
19:32 kdomanski and while we're at it, writing code is so 20th century, it's 2014 - we have graphical techostuffs
19:32 xmj jdanks: saying the same thing in different words
19:32 jdanks i know there is a WTF license but there's a language called wtf?
19:32 xmj jdanks: there's a language called brainfuck.
19:33 jdanks i had a feeling xmj. it ain't so bad, but it is forcing me to learn the idiosyncracies of java
19:33 jdanks i've seen brainfuck!
19:33 kdomanski xmj: I was just typing that :P
19:33 xmj jdanks: brainfuck is oftentimes used to prove that other languages are Turing-complete.
19:33 kdomanski and the National Instruments sales representative said that with LabView you can bla bla herp-a-derp
19:33 X-Rob BingoBoingo: I just noticed this -- Best share: 33.9G -- not too long ago that would have been a btc block.
19:33 xmj jdanks: e.g. there's a brainfuck parser for LOLCODE (no joke) which makes LOLCODE by inheritance turing-complete too.
19:33 BingoBoingo X-Rob: Damn
19:33 X-Rob that one was found within the last 24 hours or so
19:36 kdomanski omg, lolcode is sweet
19:37 xmj +
19:38 kdomanski somehow I'm not suprised that JS gets a honorary place on the first "list of 10 weirdest programming languages" I found
19:40 jdanks you think js is wierd?
19:40 BingoBoingo X-Rob: This share difficulty = 1.0 definitely seems to be a problem
19:41 jdanks i guess it depends where you have started.
19:41 kdomanski it's inconvenient at the very least
19:41 X-Rob BingoBoingo: yeah, I'm solo mining again, for the moment.
19:42 BingoBoingo X-Rob: I've rented hash and pointed it there for 48 hours. Hopefully this drives the pool diff up or... chalbersma can do something to force it up
19:47 jdanks all js is useful for is node or bells and whistles client side. you can do some nice stuff that you would do in c with typed arrays. apparently that typed array stuff is new to js or so ive heard, kdomanski
19:48 kdomanski_ ssssh, I lost connection, waiting for logs to update :P
19:48 kdomanski_ I definitely saw MP speak, but it's not in the logs
19:50 jdanks anyone have any cheap hosting that takes btc? cheap being not namecheap
19:50 jdanks need to host a service similar to bit.ly
19:51 kdomanski_ mircea_popescu: something wrong with http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/ ?
19:51 assbot #bitcoin-assets log
19:52 kdomanski_ oh
19:54 mircea_popescu welcome backl everybody lol
19:54 kdomanski so mircea_popescu, before the netsplit I asked what did you do before bitcoin
19:54 mircea_popescu observe how i'm still voiced. this is because YOU split from me.
19:55 mircea_popescu let's resync.
19:55 mircea_popescu <mircea_popescu> hm, what's a normal temperature for a normal desktop videocard to normally run at ?
19:55 mircea_popescu <mircea_popescu> not mining or anything.
19:55 mircea_popescu <kdomanski> mircea_popescu: what did you do before bitcoin?
19:55 mircea_popescu <mircea_popescu> kdomanski i was retired before bitcoin
19:55 kdomanski <kdomanski> mircea_popescu: what did you do before bitcoin?
19:55 kdomanski [01:41] <mircea_popescu> hm, what's a normal temperature for a normal desktop videocard to normally run at ?
19:55 kdomanski [01:41] <mircea_popescu> not mining or anything.
19:55 kdomanski [01:42] <kdomanski> mircea_popescu: 40 celsius for me
19:56 mircea_popescu aha so this 46-47 business isn't actually all that extraordinary ?
19:56 kdomanski I don't think so
19:56 mircea_popescu kay
19:57 kdomanski retired? I thought you're somewhere in 30-40 yo range
19:57 mircea_popescu yes.
19:57 mircea_popescu i retired @24.
19:58 mircea_popescu well, the first time anyway.
19:58 kdomanski explain
19:58 mircea_popescu what am i explaining ?
19:59 kdomanski it was my understanding that bitcoin is what made you wealthy
20:00 mircea_popescu lmao how did you get that one ?
20:00 mircea_popescu no, i was rich long before btc.
20:00 kdomanski I stand corrected
20:00 mircea_popescu http://www.iambetterthanyourkids.com/images/inspirational/be_so_happy3.jpg << the main difference between russians and us people ? observe how evstafiev holds the woman's hand.
20:03 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves: even worse than bitter is a sour espresso << i think coffee tastes sour at a certain point of sweetening it.
20:03 nubbins` i recall giving a presentation at the place i had a work term once
20:03 mircea_popescu like, it's bitter, add sugar, less bitter, less bitter, wow sour, not bitter, a little sweet, sweeter etc
20:04 nubbins` in the brief introductory bio my manager asked me to provide, i said i planned to retire by age 35
20:04 nubbins` everyone had a nice lel
20:04 nubbins` i wondered why ;0
20:04 mircea_popescu nubbins` it's not all it's cracked up to be. i spent a while with old farts in costa rica, they bored me stiff.
20:04 mircea_popescu there's just so much bridge a person can play.
20:04 nubbins` ehh, retirement doesn't mean you stop working, just means you don't have to
20:05 mircea_popescu no, that's not retirement, that's being alive.
20:05 dub http://i.imgur.com/vKy5j.jpg
20:05 nubbins` don't tell me, tell the people who lelled at my plan
20:05 mircea_popescu hello people that lelled at ~leel@stjhnf0157w-142163081094.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOP.nl.bellaliant.net
20:06 mircea_popescu dub well she did say she was a stripper.
20:08 mircea_popescu !up Guest55668
20:08 mircea_popescu fu assbot.
20:08 mircea_popescu !up
20:08 mircea_popescu !up mircea_popescu
20:09 mircea_popescu diametric: mircea_popescu, asciilifeform: http://www.seeedstudio.com/wiki/FST-01 << ima let teh tech comment.
20:09 assbot FST-01 - Wiki
20:10 mircea_popescu thestringpuller: if you can recommend a shop and they give you a cutback on the order "finders fee" or something i would consider <<< what you're contemplating is actually fraud, and a hanging offense you know.
20:11 mircea_popescu punkman why was tramadol supposed to be natural ?!
20:11 mircea_popescu natural in what sense, it exists or what.
20:13 mircea_popescu thestringpuller: this is an easy way to create a fraudulent scenario. <<< i can actually confirm this. clueless intern paid .2 btc coinbase invoice, had to be slapped across head. the bitcents are and have been in limbo since friday.
20:14 kdomanski I suspect natural the way THC is natural and LSD is not
20:15 mircea_popescu PeterL: where did you get 100M shares from? << the confusion is mostly because originally F.DERP was going to have 10x as much money, but then i cut back because nobody was buying the derps, much to i guess no one's surprise.
20:16 mircea_popescu kdomanski turns out it was urine polution. you know, the way us males get estrogen in the drinking water from all the pills chicks take to not make more kids.
20:16 peterl I see. I guess you can't go back and change it, what with signatures and such
20:16 kdomanski mircea_popescu: yup, I read it
20:16 peterl If you had started on havelock you could switch it and nobody would know
20:17 mircea_popescu uh da fuck
20:17 mircea_popescu dude i can't believe this thing i edited one place but not the other and signed it like that o.O
20:18 mircea_popescu now the reports and the contract are fucking diverged and jurov has legitimate complaint #873
20:18 mircea_popescu thanks for saying something o.O
20:22 mircea_popescu PeterL: not usually explosives, but I have had a few things go up in flames (note: dumping pyrophoric powder into a container of flammable liquid is a bad idea) << one of my favourite "experiments" as a 12 yo with a chemistry lab was setting on fire a mix of potassium chloride and sulfur powder, with various metals mixed in for coloration.
20:24 nubbins` thestringpuller shirts finally arrived, printing films; your design doesn't have text converted to outlines
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20:25 nubbins` so now i have a large Arial TM in the middle of your image, instead of (probably) a tiny fun TM in the corner somewhere
20:25 mircea_popescu "This summer the insurgent group ISIS captured the Iraqi city of Mosul—and along with it, three army divisions’ worth of U.S.-supplied equipment from the Iraqi army, including Humvees, helicopters, antiaircraft cannons and M1 Abrams tanks."
20:26 mircea_popescu here's an idea for a kill switch : everyone in the pentagon is hanged.
20:26 mircea_popescu treason.
20:26 mircea_popescu !up notsakamoto
20:26 mircea_popescu grrr
20:27 mircea_popescu !up
20:27 mircea_popescu !up mircea_popescu
20:27 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: comment << http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-09-2014#829589
20:27 assbot Logged on 15-09-2014 18:06:25; asciilifeform: diametric: an adequate trng is incredibly easy to build. but don't use adc noise on a general-purpose micro - is heavy on quantization bias, and easy to nudge from outside.
20:27 mircea_popescu !up notsakamoto
20:27 notsakamoto sup
20:27 mircea_popescu asciilifeform ah yea i see.
20:27 asciilifeform and http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-09-2014#829585
20:27 assbot Logged on 15-09-2014 18:04:31; asciilifeform: diametric: FST-01 << useful for many purposes, but not crypto. on account of being reflashable via usb.
20:28 * asciilifeform loves the log, friend of the lazy man
20:28 ben_vulpes fuck. you. freenode.
20:28 mircea_popescu kdomanski i have nfi how they presume to act as if the tanks are the problem. no, the us general staff, from the chief to the cleaning lady are the problem. hanged all of them.
20:28 mircea_popescu asciilifeform ikr ?
20:28 ben_vulpes *months* of uptime and then what is this?
20:28 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes this is a soft system being attacked.
20:28 notsakamoto rumor has it ethereum selling 1/2 their holdings to pay for dev. 15,000 btc hitting market soon
20:28 nubbins` ben_vulpes get what ya pay for ;)
20:29 mircea_popescu rumor has it that the scam in question only exists as an attempt to pull this sort of manipulation.
20:29 mircea_popescu nobdy here gives a shit, on account of us being both richer and more powerful than the usg.
20:29 ben_vulpes ah that's awesome
20:29 ben_vulpes three hundred dollar coins by the end of summer?
20:29 notsakamoto mp; u think its scam? unlikely. vitalik is trustworthy
20:29 ben_vulpes no he's a moronic kid
20:29 nubbins` 300? pricey
20:29 mircea_popescu notsakamoto don't be a fuckwit and read the logs.
20:29 ben_vulpes and a worse programmer than i
20:29 mircea_popescu !down notsakamoto
20:30 nubbins` dat down
20:30 mircea_popescu minimum effort bs.
20:30 mircea_popescu i miss the days of spring, back when they were paying romanian loser starvation wages to try their noob psychology on here.
20:31 ThickAsThieves viva la serenisima!
20:31 mircea_popescu yeah well, when someone takes three divisions worth off tanks from my own hands we can revisit this topic.
20:32 mircea_popescu the us is by now that loser kid everyone "borrow" things from, and he doesn't mind if you'll just be his friend.
20:32 mircea_popescu THAT is hitting the market soon. gl with the nasdaq.
20:32 ThickAsThieves wall st took nice dump today
20:33 ThickAsThieves TSLA down 9%
20:33 mircea_popescu no dude, tesla is trustworthy.
20:34 BingoBoingo https://atc.blockr.io/tx/info/9b05a3c067c172fb44c563b0fb1e203e929081f945a47245ec1c0b6a967ec21a
20:34 nubbins` heh
20:34 mircea_popescu maybe they hire butterdik
20:34 BingoBoingo ^ P2Pool mined an ATC Block
20:34 ThickAsThieves Musk was repeatedly telling people the shit is overpriced
20:34 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo is it its 2nd ?
20:34 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves yeah musk is actually remarkably clean for the shit he's in.
20:34 BingoBoingo Well First on this instance, but yeah, second overall I believe
20:35 ben_vulpes "shit he's in" << what shit is this? bed with the USG?
20:35 ThickAsThieves car biz
20:35 nubbins` ^
20:35 mircea_popescu well yeah, selling stuff on glbse, selling stuff on wallstreet, what the hell's the difference.
20:35 nubbins` cars are greasy, it comes off on your hands real easy
20:36 chalbersma https://atc.blockr.io/block/info/45165 was the earlier one but we reset all the p2pool data in earlier testing.
20:36 ThickAsThieves he's also in solar, which is a quiet little goldmine these days
20:37 ThickAsThieves he's South African, heh
20:37 chalbersma https://atc.blockr.io/address/info/1Kz5QaUPDtKrj5SqW5tFkn7WZh8LmQaQi4 is forrestv's address and all p2pool block send at least 1 satoshi to his address. Someone apparently had a p2pool instance going earlier (or was randomly transfering him 1 statoshis.
20:37 mircea_popescu who is forrestv ?
20:38 BingoBoingo Oh lulzy site notsakamoto had in his hostmask http://blackcoinsquare.org/
20:38 assbot Home | BlackCoin BLKFeed - BlackCoin Digital Current Information HQ
20:39 BingoBoingo Blackcoin moon spaceship apparently next year
20:39 chalbersma He's the guy who created p2pool.https://github.com/forrestv/p2pool
20:39 ThickAsThieves how will all the anonycoins fit in one moonship tho?
20:39 nubbins` trailers
20:39 mircea_popescu i can't fucking believe scientificamerican seriously is advocating making tanks run windows.
20:40 mircea_popescu what the fuck is wrong with that country already
20:40 BingoBoingo I thought they already ran Windows CE or some shit.
20:40 kdomanski mircea_popescu: wat? URL?
20:40 chalbersma Well if they ran FreeBSD they'd never breakdown.
20:40 chalbersma :)
20:40 ThickAsThieves sometimes i feel like unconvertible Excel files are the only reason MS still exists
20:40 mircea_popescu kdomanski your own link from earlier.
20:41 mircea_popescu "timed expiration" and such bs. "let's make it work more like windows me"
20:41 kdomanski oh that
20:41 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves nah, the vast and growing population of useless office drones is the reason. they can be kept busy doing nothing which is the point.
20:42 ThickAsThieves well can we at least convert them to ChromeOS or someshit
20:42 mircea_popescu javatank
20:42 ThickAsThieves i guess theyll all be in iOS soon
20:42 mircea_popescu that'd be some awesome battlefield.
20:44 BingoBoingo Ubuntank
20:44 ben_vulpes BSDank
20:44 chalbersma Introducing iTank! The most friendly and easy to use Tank every invented. Just take civillians put them infront of the intiutive iTarget system and choose the enemy to iKill.
20:44 mircea_popescu iKll
20:44 chalbersma *Occassionaly spits out naked photos of Jennifer Lawerence*
20:44 mircea_popescu short for not really killed because killing is bad mkay
20:44 kdomanski mircea_popescu: the article's author is a lawyer specializing in technology law and a member of Senate Whatever Comittee of Inteligence, go figure
20:45 mircea_popescu kdomanski yeah, he's so clearly doing one of those faux-editorial advocacy pieces where some captured "intellectual" is workign to cover the scandalous govt acquisition from some company
20:45 mircea_popescu you can tell them from a mile away. mostly because while they make no sense, they proceed liniarly in a way that's not warranted by their internal logic.
20:46 ThickAsThieves wag the dog
20:46 mircea_popescu yeah.
20:46 mircea_popescu "this is a plant made out of cells that could not stand on their own, and if they did would form a circle pattern. it's macropattern is linear. clearly there's something external hodling it all in place"
20:47 ThickAsThieves i have some cows that shit circles
20:47 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo so what is this forrestv thing, does the guy have like a little leak programmed into the code ?
20:48 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo: X-Rob: I've rented hash and pointed it there for 48 hours. Hopefully this drives the pool diff up or... << i don't get it, the pool diff can't be arbitrarily set ?
20:48 chalbersma @mircea_popescu let me see if I can find an explanation of it.
20:48 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: I think it is just the guy who developed this thing hardcoded donations to himself.
20:49 mircea_popescu o.O
20:49 mircea_popescu wtf bs code is this.
20:49 BingoBoingo Which at 1 satoshi per block seems largely symbolic and unspendable
20:50 mircea_popescu that's not the point. the point is that if we discover this sort of shit by running it, who the fuck knows what else is in there
20:50 mircea_popescu and moreover, i'm not promoting this sort of behaviour.
20:50 chalbersma https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=18313.150;wap2 Here's an explanation of it. His address is in the code manually for donations.
20:50 assbot [3500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool
20:52 mircea_popescu chalbersma so why did you leave that in there ?
20:53 chalbersma I added the minimum to make the code work. It can be changed in the future.
20:53 mircea_popescu you added the minimum what ?
20:54 ThickAsThieves change the payout to something cooler
20:54 nubbins` effort
20:55 ThickAsThieves b-a doesnt have a proper nonprofit to give to
20:55 ThickAsThieves asbbot i guess
20:55 ThickAsThieves or b-a.com
20:55 mircea_popescu chalbersma did you know about this originally or did you discover it through reading up on it once people spotted it earlier ?
20:55 BingoBoingo Bitbet Donations...
20:56 chalbersma Noticed it with the first block and looked it up. 1 satoshi per block seemed harmless enough.
20:56 mircea_popescu chalbersma always a good idea to say, and to ask.
20:57 mircea_popescu anyway, the forum says .25 donated by default. did you change that or what ?
20:57 ThickAsThieves lol traders blaming BTCUSD price on United Way now
20:58 ThickAsThieves ;;ticker
20:58 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 467.02, Best ask: 468.37, Bid-ask spread: 1.35000, Last trade: 468.4, 24 hour volume: 6783.74875283, 24 hour low: 465.31, 24 hour high: 479.62, 24 hour vwap: 473.493207448
20:58 chalbersma Only if you leave the default donation is the .25 per block given. I've set the manual donation to 0.
20:58 asciilifeform hardcoded 'donation' << lulz. it's 2011 again!
20:58 mircea_popescu ic.
20:59 ThickAsThieves whats the difference between hardcoded donation and bitcoin wallet hacker virus?
20:59 mircea_popescu asciilifeform birdy in my ear whispers there's a legitimate reason for that thing. specifically, division errors.
20:59 ThickAsThieves documentation?
20:59 mircea_popescu if you have to split 5 apples equally between tim and mary easiest approach is to eat an apple.
21:00 asciilifeform the original 'salami slicer' thief, if i recall, stole the rounding error at a large bank.
21:00 mircea_popescu yup.
21:00 mircea_popescu course that was 2 digit rounding error, not 8 digit.
21:01 kdomanski <ThickAsThieves> b-a doesnt have a proper nonprofit to give to << how about Electronic Frontier Foundation?
21:01 ThickAsThieves they havent passed my sniff test
21:01 mircea_popescu actually, there's going to be the deeds registrar faucet
21:01 kdomanski I see
21:01 mircea_popescu there's also kako's beer fund
21:01 mircea_popescu and if/when we make our own freenode there's going to be that
21:02 ThickAsThieves that sounds like a good fund
21:02 * asciilifeform contributed
21:02 ThickAsThieves Free Freenode!
21:02 mircea_popescu so save up the pennies, charitable charities coming soon
21:02 assbot Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2SV5Z37.txt )
21:02 BingoBoingo !b 3
21:04 ThickAsThieves i liked the vanads project, but in reality i find myself being quite preoccupied with removing advertising from my life
21:04 ThickAsThieves gos bless america
21:04 ThickAsThieves d
21:05 nubbins` all about the posters
21:05 ThickAsThieves posters i still enjoy
21:05 mircea_popescu myeah, humane ads are like humane rape. a tough sell in the best of cases.
21:06 ThickAsThieves i'm such an old man about it too, we were in the plane and the screen on the seat just starts playing video ads
21:06 ThickAsThieves i was all offended
21:06 ThickAsThieves we're waiting to take off and they are milking me?
21:07 ThickAsThieves fukn hell
21:07 mircea_popescu at some point in tm they tried to introduce ad screens in cabs.
21:07 nubbins` keep turning em back on when you put the brightness all the way down too
21:07 mircea_popescu i stopped the car, got out and spent the next hour screaming at people on the phone.
21:07 ThickAsThieves in NY the cabs all have "news" playing
21:07 mircea_popescu it... never took off.
21:08 Bet created: "Bitcoin $817 or above before Christmas" http://bitbet.us/bet/1043/
21:08 ThickAsThieves 817? weird
21:09 ThickAsThieves kis that what it was last xmas?
21:10 ThickAsThieves nope
21:11 mike_c this one is 1,164. http://bitbet.us/bet/1033/btc-tops-all-time-high-before-christmas/ feels redundant.
21:11 assbot BitBet - BTC tops all time high before Christmas :: 0.3 B (8%) on Yes, 3.42 B (92%) on No | closing in 2 months 3 weeks | weight: 84`293 (100`000 to 1`000)
21:16 BingoBoingo http://www.gomerblog.com/2014/09/amantia/
21:16 assbot Super Mario in Critical Condition, Mistakenly ate Amanita for 1-UP Mushroom - Medical Satire - GomerBlog
21:17 mircea_popescu http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=buzzfeed << we continue our maddox appreciation day.
21:18 asciilifeform 'buzzfeed' ?? << no idea what it is/was, but can't escape images of folks being slowly fed into buzzing woodchipper
21:18 assbot Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/08ZBH0K.txt )
21:18 BingoBoingo !b 1
21:18 asciilifeform and, also related, 'kill switch' must only be a switch that kills someone when pressed.
21:19 mircea_popescu asciilifeform buzzfeed is hot topic for the web.
21:19 asciilifeform just as, in the words of an old sage, 'a kill file is simply a file containing list of people you are going to have killed.'
21:22 mircea_popescu at least that's how i use it.
21:22 mircea_popescu not to be confused with a bucket list.
21:22 asciilifeform list of persons to be drowned in bucket ?
21:22 mircea_popescu a bucket list being the list of things the assholes in question were hoping to do before i got to them.
21:23 assbot Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3NXXM2A.txt )
21:23 asciilifeform !b 3
21:24 mircea_popescu "TGI Friday's (often shortened to "Friday's" in most countries, previously stylized as "T.G.I. Friday's", and stylized "FRiDAY'S", or "T.G.I.s" in Ireland and the United Kingdom) is an American restaurant chain focusing on casual dining."
21:24 mircea_popescu what the fuck is "asual dining"
21:25 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Fast Food, but they make you wait for it.
21:25 mircea_popescu bwahaha
21:25 BingoBoingo McDonalds Food, but in a venue purporting to be a restaurant
21:27 mircea_popescu but... why ?
21:27 mircea_popescu location and tabletime costs more than fucking food.
21:27 mircea_popescu why not go the other way wtf is with this puritan hate of pleasure and enjoyment for crying out loud.
21:28 BingoBoingo Well, America hasn't had a Rochester yet.
21:28 mircea_popescu yeah, yet. totally, that's happening.
21:28 BingoBoingo So we're still stuck with Cromwell's legacy
21:28 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: eat an american bar of chocolate.
21:28 mircea_popescu noty.
21:28 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: or better, pay some wretch to eat it
21:28 mircea_popescu hershey won't even kill dogs.
21:29 asciilifeform erzats.
21:29 mircea_popescu it's ersatz unless you're hungarian
21:29 BingoBoingo !s New Reno
21:29 assbot 2 results for 'New Reno' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=New+Reno
21:29 mircea_popescu hungarians are allowed to sz zs all over the place
21:29 asciilifeform now, having done step 1 (american chocolate) - step 2 is to eat some 'premium' american chocolate.
21:29 asciilifeform notice that it is almost exactly the same substance.
21:30 mircea_popescu asciilifeform us "belgian" chocolates are pretty awful too.
21:30 asciilifeform them, yes
21:30 asciilifeform specifically.
21:30 mircea_popescu i suspect they're about as belgian as haagen dasz
21:30 BingoBoingo http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-07-2014#762111 << You said yourself you were planning a trip eventually
21:30 assbot Logged on 20-07-2014 08:41:26; mircea_popescu: maybe i visit after the fall. play fallout in new reno irl or some4thing.
21:30 asciilifeform and when you understand why, will also understand why 'casual dining' is a thing
21:30 asciilifeform the consumer - demands.
21:30 mircea_popescu demands my foot. nobody demands bad chocolate.
21:30 asciilifeform these people - do.
21:30 mircea_popescu i will not believe.
21:31 asciilifeform go ahead, catch one, try to feed it actual chocolate.
21:31 mircea_popescu the power of savarin compells you
21:31 mircea_popescu QUIT THIS BODY!
21:31 mircea_popescu choxorcism.
21:32 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i srsly never met a us born/bred woman that had trouble with good chocolate.
21:32 mircea_popescu even the more exotic 92% dark romanian stuff
21:32 mircea_popescu (it's bitter)
21:32 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: your filter is working correctly, then.
21:34 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: it's ersatz unless you're hungarian << or russian... >> эрзац.
21:35 mircea_popescu dude you got colonised by hungarians
21:35 mircea_popescu what's wrong with эрсац
21:36 mircea_popescu ;;google эрсац
21:36 gribble No matches found.
21:36 mircea_popescu o.O
21:36 asciilifeform see.
21:36 asciilifeform hell, try jp., where president. Biru Kurintonu.
21:36 mircea_popescu nowai, it exists. http://www.kleo.ru/webboard/wifeschool/archive-2005-10/davajte-pogovorim-o-prekrasnom-2958551.shtml
21:36 assbot ))) | |
21:36 mircea_popescu lol picassbot
21:37 ben_vulpes <ThickAsThieves> we're waiting to take off and they are milking me? << lol you should hear lady v on the topic
21:38 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes your filter is functioning correctly.
21:38 mircea_popescu (let's play your filter is functioning correctly tag)
21:38 asciilifeform yfifc.
21:39 mircea_popescu ;;ud yfifc
21:39 gribble Google found nothing.
21:39 mircea_popescu http://www.yfyfc.org.uk/ :D
21:39 assbot Yorkshire Federation of Young Farmers' Clubs - Yorkshire Federation of Young Farmers' Clubs
21:40 asciilifeform 'what's yer little ship's name?' 'the hero.' 'ain't ever been such a ship.' 'ain't been - will be now.'
21:40 ben_vulpes what is this reference mircea_popescu ?
21:40 mircea_popescu like ten lines up in the log.
21:40 mircea_popescu but basically, chocolate and womenz.
21:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00075138 = 3.2309 BTC [-] {2}
21:42 ben_vulpes subject of women
21:42 ben_vulpes the office brides have asserted that "retarded" is not okay
21:42 ben_vulpes assert*
21:42 ben_vulpes so to pique them we now say "poorly engineered"
21:42 ben_vulpes frequently with a...pregnant pause.
21:42 asciilifeform office brides ?
21:43 mircea_popescu why would you say something longer ?
21:44 asciilifeform !up DiabloD3
21:44 DiabloD3 okay so
21:44 DiabloD3 office brides?
21:44 mircea_popescu seems to me "female" is a good substitution for "retarded" for the company of females that think retarded's retarded.
21:44 ben_vulpes to pique irk and troll
21:44 DiabloD3 Im thinking, like, the 50s style office maidens
21:44 DiabloD3 that brought you coffee and donuts and blowjobs
21:45 mircea_popescu generally, whenever someone complains whatever they complain about should be replaced by something that's about a degree of magnitude more likely to bother them personally.
21:45 ben_vulpes yeah but only when the contractors arent around
21:45 DiabloD3 before all this fucking "women's rights" shit ruined it for everybody
21:45 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: that's the point of using "poorly engineered"
21:45 mircea_popescu aok
21:45 ben_vulpes they know we're saying the same thing.
21:45 DiabloD3 seriously, I know women who would be fired for sexual harassment of men
21:45 DiabloD3 and it'd be a legitimate firing
21:45 mircea_popescu hai DiabloD3
21:45 DiabloD3 the upper brass would just shut that whole thing down
21:46 DiabloD3 so to tell me women aren't willing participants in the whole office thing is bullshit
21:46 DiabloD3 there are many women who get off on men with power, and it is not our right as a society on who is allowed to get off on what (outside of bestiality and pedophilia and catholics
21:46 DiabloD3 )
21:49 mircea_popescu was this a prepared statement ?
21:49 DiabloD3 no
21:49 DiabloD3 its a work in progress
21:49 ben_vulpes grains?
21:50 mircea_popescu there also little girls who get off on men with power.
21:50 mircea_popescu anywhere between all and each and every last one of them.
21:51 Diablo-D3 there are also men who get off on women with power
21:51 Diablo-D3 and thats totally okay too
21:51 Diablo-D3 everyone should know what they get off to, and get off to it frequently
21:52 mircea_popescu actually a lot of men get off on not getting to get off frequently
21:52 mircea_popescu or at all.
21:52 nubbins` wat
21:52 mircea_popescu nubbins` more cock cages sold last year than iphones.
21:53 ben_vulpes bs
21:53 nubbins` ehh, more farts than kisses
21:53 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes how would you know ? you don't check people's peckers do you ?
21:53 mircea_popescu IMBATABLE ARGUMENT!!! ty homophobia!
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21:54 BingoBoingo !b 5
21:54 BingoBoingo Wait, now we know how MP retired the first time with all the money.
21:55 mircea_popescu we do ?
21:55 nubbins` yeah, PR wrote a tell-all book
21:56 mircea_popescu my pr back then could benchpress a car.
21:56 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: You sold all of the cock cages
21:56 mircea_popescu and im pretty definitely certain wrote no books
22:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 155 @ 0.01039978 = 1.612 BTC [-] {3}
22:02 mircea_popescu this country has the world's stupidest mosquitoes.
22:05 mircea_popescu by the way : chloroform can be trivially manufactured out of either acetone (nail polish remover) or ethanol through addition of chlorine bleach.
22:07 ben_vulpes wow!
22:07 mircea_popescu it is difficult to store, because if air gets to it they make phosgene and hcl ; however it can be trivially washed in a solution of baking soda, which removes the decomposition products safely.
22:08 mircea_popescu lethal dose is 45 grams, which is just about 1 mol, or ~22 liters of pure, unconstricted gas.
22:09 mircea_popescu mmm no. it's like 120g/mol. 1/3 of a mol, like 7 liters.
22:09 chalbersma mp. I've been looking at the bit that donation transaction that generates the donation to forrestv's address. I've found one alternative p2pool implementation that had a different coinbase script but I'm not sure how to generate it. I'll have to look more into it tomorrow.
22:10 kdomanski s/unconstricted/1 atm. pressure/
22:11 mircea_popescu ;;tslb
22:11 gribble Error: Problem retrieving latest block data.
22:11 mircea_popescu kdomanski well yeah.
22:12 mircea_popescu someone has to explain to me why both coinbase (10 minute) and bitpay (15 minute) use this idiotic "expiring invoice" model.
22:12 mircea_popescu what is it supposed to do ?
22:12 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Craetes room for them to be scammy fucks
22:13 mircea_popescu well that yes
22:13 mircea_popescu but i mean, bitbet works just fine without expiring addresses
22:13 BingoBoingo Do they needs another reason?
22:13 mircea_popescu yet there's a whole collection of reddit wailers derping about how bitbet is a scam and ty bitpay for having fixed your X error that cost me my business you're such a great company.
22:13 mircea_popescu what the fuck is wrong with people.
22:14 chalbersma It gives the donation address a satoshi and any leftover satoshi's after dividing between the active shares to that address too.
22:14 chalbersma I think.
22:15 mircea_popescu chalbersma suppose you just re-write it so it gives that to the highest ranking address.
22:15 mircea_popescu it's nice supporting foss authors and everything, but i doubt the guy can or would spend atc.
22:18 decimation diametric: I agree with asciilifeform re: that FST-01 device for TRNG - there are just too many potential gotchas with a low-quality ADC, why bother when a much simpler circuit would suffice?
22:19 decimation also if you are using an adc you are going to want careful signal separation and shielding like asciilifeform implied.
22:19 decimation random pcb hanging off a usb shell does not qualify
22:19 decimation all that being said it looks like a fun little toy
22:20 asciilifeform decimation: scores of similar toys (usb plus cheap micro on a 'keychain') exist.
22:20 asciilifeform why that particular one is being pushed 'for crypto!' - mystery.
22:20 chalbersma mp I'll take a look at it but I'm not entirely sure how to do it. I'll have to read more into the procedure of generating that coinbase.
22:21 mircea_popescu it is after all a learning exercise.
22:22 decimation asciilifeform: yeah if one is going to play with uC on a usb stick, might as well hack a usb storage card use the controller, because cheap
22:22 kakobrekla <mircea_popescu> but i mean, bitbet works just fine without expiring addresses < cause bb has to do with fiat as much as well.. with fiat.
22:22 asciilifeform decimation: cheap but i/o-poor.
22:22 decimation but storage rich :)
22:22 kakobrekla dunno why that needs to be pointed out.
22:22 asciilifeform and afaik there's exactly one brand known to work for that experiment
22:23 mircea_popescu kakobrekla the implication being that what exactly ? your weight is their fiat.
22:23 mircea_popescu what of it ?
22:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 50 @ 0.0103 = 0.515 BTC [-]
22:23 decimation asciilifeform: I suspect nearly all brands have such controllers, the fun part is learning how to access backdoor
22:23 kakobrekla well, its hard to pay for 90% of the car
22:24 chalbersma Indeed it is a learning exercise.
22:24 asciilifeform decimation: a good deal of the really dirt-cheapo chinese stuff has mask rom.
22:24 mircea_popescu "here is the address to pay to. if you pay in the next 10 minutes, you need to pay this much. if you don't and the price moves in your favour expect change in your originating address ; if it moves against you expect a new invoice generated for the difference"
22:24 mircea_popescu does not take any genius
22:25 mircea_popescu then you can just send 1 even for a .75 invoice if you absolutely must have it filled, and take .2whatever in change when it happens
22:25 kakobrekla too complicated for _people_, better to take the exchange risk for a few min
22:25 mircea_popescu and supposedly these things hire engineers and have ceos and market value. psssssst
22:25 decimation asciilifeform: with pictures! http://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=2946
22:25 assbot Where USB Memory Sticks are Born « bunnie's blog
22:25 asciilifeform yes that one.
22:25 mircea_popescu yeah right, too complicated, let's make it not work.
22:26 mircea_popescu relying on a 10 minute interval when blocks are routinely a half hour, help me rwanda.
22:26 kakobrekla also bitbet addresses expire after 3 days if unused or when bet is closed.
22:26 mircea_popescu sure.
22:26 mircea_popescu 3 days, you know what i'm saying ?
22:27 kakobrekla no
22:27 mircea_popescu brothel1 : if you fail to spend in 10 minutes, there's a surcharge. brothel2 : if you fail to spend in 3 days, there's a... nevermind.
22:27 mircea_popescu we just give you the girl.
22:27 kakobrekla but they wait zero conf
22:28 mircea_popescu even better o.O
22:28 mircea_popescu basically they picked a solution that fell out of the fail tree and hit every branch down
22:28 kakobrekla i dont see it as much problematic
22:29 mircea_popescu and they BOTH did it, hurray for us-style "competition" ==== "industry best practices"
22:29 decimation re: microsoft paying $2bn for mojang: I saw the news this morning and lol'ed. $3.2 bn for nest, $2bn for mojang; only $3 bn for high-power specialty manufacturer that has $1bn in revenue per year
22:29 kakobrekla they sell coins on bitstamp
22:29 kakobrekla when 0 conf hits the shit
22:29 kakobrekla if its not confirmed
22:29 kakobrekla buy coins back
22:29 mircea_popescu not really my problem, they'll learn some lessons in fragility once anyone gives enough of a shit.
22:30 mircea_popescu and they won't be able to get out of it by aggitating the "us legislation" dog, nobody cares.
22:30 mircea_popescu this isn't fiatbankland.
22:31 asciilifeform decimation: nest:
22:31 asciilifeform !s merit wash
22:31 assbot 7 results for 'merit wash' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=merit+wash
22:32 asciilifeform decimation: don't 'confuse the warm with the soft.'
22:32 mircea_popescu decimation that's not even the problem. all those together ? worth half a watsapp.
22:32 mircea_popescu what the fuck is that thing even
22:32 asciilifeform decimation: very different purposes for the two kinds of purchase.
22:32 decimation asciilifeform: yeah agreed. Although to mojang's credit they apparently make $240 mn per year. Yeah I forgot whatsapp
22:32 asciilifeform in one, they actually buy something vaguely useful. in another - launder usd.
22:33 asciilifeform somebody's idiot yacht-sailing son needed an extra $B.
22:33 kakobrekla mircea_popescu 99% of online betting/shopping volume doesnt know what 'originating address' could possibly be.
22:33 kakobrekla and this wont change
22:33 mircea_popescu yes, it would change, if "industry best practices" were aimed at best
22:33 kakobrekla not drastically
22:33 mircea_popescu rather than at worst.
22:34 mircea_popescu but no, why not try and microsoft all over bitcoin and then wonder why people hate you.
22:34 kakobrekla which people
22:34 kakobrekla not the one i mentioned before
22:34 mircea_popescu "we're a bitcoin company that's trying to make bitcoin work as badly as possible, and fail that as closely approximative of fiat as possible. because reasons. please invest."
22:35 decimation it would be nice if each dollar 'committed' in this spending were marked with the number of hands that held the dollar since being printed by the Fed
22:35 mircea_popescu kakobrekla i was using the term people in the limited sense of "people in bitcoin", not in the general sense of "mouthbreather kept on life support by usg"
22:35 mircea_popescu my bad.
22:36 kakobrekla bb is not a sheep company. bitpay is a sheep company. there are more sheep around than non sheep. by count, sheep company is hated less.
22:36 mircea_popescu look, your whole argument is based on the entirely insane proposition that "people could never know what an originating address is"
22:37 mircea_popescu they managed to not delete their wallet, right ?
22:37 kakobrekla only a few.
22:37 mircea_popescu yes well.
22:37 kakobrekla from a group that is already small as it is.
22:37 mircea_popescu nonsense. there is absolutely no reason to cater to idiocy.
22:37 mircea_popescu the argument that "people demand" is fallacious,.
22:38 mircea_popescu people would still demand huts and saddles if anyone asked them.
22:38 mircea_popescu there's no intrinsic reason to buy soap, nor any good reason not to eat the soap you bought, on the strength of this approach.
22:39 kakobrekla <mircea_popescu> nonsense. there is absolutely no reason to cater to idiocy. < broad statement. totally depends what ones goal is
22:39 mircea_popescu the only reason "people demand" pop music and buzzfeed derpage is because that's what mtv and buzzfeed want to sell.
22:40 decimation "my customers would have wanted a faster horse"
22:40 mircea_popescu kakobrekla yes. if one's goal is not to shit where one eats, then there's no incentive to cater to idiocy. if on the contrary, then on the contrary.
22:40 mircea_popescu the bitpay/coinbase invoice model is basically doing everything from the perspective of "what's the most we could do so bitcoin never works"
22:40 decimation http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/15297-if-i-had-asked-people-what-they-wanted-they-would
22:40 assbot Quote by Henry Ford: If I had asked people what they wanted, they wo...
22:42 kakobrekla yeah well those cars werent much better
22:42 mircea_popescu decimation note the change of apple, from the ipad 1 "fuck you, it's not going to come in white" to the ipad 6 "we're doing what the customers think they want"
22:42 decimation kakobrekla has a point, he did make shit cars
22:42 mircea_popescu it narrowly maps the makeover from "a good place to invest" to "a good thing to short"
22:42 decimation on the other hand, what has happened to apple is clearly the result of one man passing
22:43 mircea_popescu not just one man. the man with something to say. there was never anything of any value or utility come from listening "to people" and "their needs"
22:43 mircea_popescu the fuck do people know what their needs are, you might as well be the veterinarian that offers pet-managed pet care.
22:45 decimation the third estate was represented by the bourgeois lawyers who were 'of the people'
22:45 decimation another rambling example: http://www.forbes.com/sites/stevedenning/2014/09/14/roger-martin-how-the-talent-turned-into-vampires/
22:45 assbot Roger Martin: How 'The Talent' Turned Into Vampires - Forbes
22:45 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu> the fuck do people know what their needs are, you might as well be the veterinarian that offers pet-managed pet care. << Time to go long on bacon as dogs move over to a diet of pork and more pork
22:47 decimation the forbes 'article' (forbes < daily mail) is an example of a blind man feeling the bloated government elephant and declaring it to be a large plum
22:47 mircea_popescu who's roger martin
22:47 decimation no idea
22:48 nubbins` james bond
22:48 mircea_popescu i remember a time when newspapers were worth reading, they came in wet ink and you knew the names of the editors.
22:48 decimation "These questions are being raised, not in some anti-capitalist rag from the extreme Left, but in the staid pro-business pages of the Harvard Business Review, in a seminal article by Roger Martin, the former dean of the Rotman School of Business and the academic director of the Martin Prosperity Institute: “The Rise and (Likely) Fall of the Talent Economy.”"
22:48 decimation I skimmed that paragraph apparently
22:49 decimation as if Harvard has anything to say about how actual (non-bezzle) business is run
22:50 mircea_popescu wasn;t that lead by the very picturesque Richard Florida ?!
22:50 decimation heh maybe, he's all about derping on homosexual urban planning
22:51 kakobrekla also imho over 50% of bitcoin users do not even have access to their own private keys.
22:51 mircea_popescu guy being well tied into theatlantic and all that.
22:51 mircea_popescu you've stumbled on the very heart of the somethingawful forums over there.
22:52 kakobrekla means no return payment possibru.
22:52 kakobrekla unless you complicate it further, like bb does.
22:52 mircea_popescu kakobrekla acting as if this is a thing makes it a thing. not a good idea.
22:52 decimation http://www.theatlantic.com/richard-florida/
22:52 assbot Richard Florida - Authors - The Atlantic
22:53 mircea_popescu so, yes, quite as anticapitalist rag as it gets
22:54 asciilifeform death of apple << obligatory crackpot rant >> http://www.loper-os.org/?p=132
22:54 assbot Loper OS » Non-Apple’s Mistake
22:54 decimation "Moreover in a recent report from the Aspen Institute, which convened a cross-section of business thought leaders, including both executives and academics, the most important finding is that a majority of the thought leaders who participated in the study, particularly corporate executives, agreed that “the primary purpose of the corporation is to serve customers’ interests.” In effect, the best way to serve shareholders’
22:54 decimation interests is to deliver value to customers."
22:54 kakobrekla good or bad it takes the pain away for the _people_. and _people_ will always chose pleasure over pain.
22:55 mircea_popescu no, it doesn't.
22:55 mircea_popescu !up boolrap
22:55 kakobrekla less brain is used, therefore it does.
22:55 boolrap hi
22:55 TheNewDeal hedge funds extract value. gotta be shitting me
22:56 asciilifeform boolrap: damn it find your key
22:56 TheNewDeal one of the few industries where your pay is truly related to your success
22:56 boolrap well i know where it is
22:56 boolrap its just too far away
22:56 mircea_popescu kakobrekla how is less brain used ?
22:56 asciilifeform boolrap: buried it in the garden ?
22:57 boolrap nope
22:57 boolrap im at the place with real internet
22:57 asciilifeform ahaha
22:57 mircea_popescu how the fuck are "academics" thought leaders
22:57 mircea_popescu what thefuck fantasy land is this.
22:58 kakobrekla more brain is needed to complete a bb payment than to bpay payment. im to lazy to list all the details, but its there.
22:58 mircea_popescu kakobrekla not true.
22:59 mircea_popescu with bb, you need the address, send the payment, are done.
22:59 mircea_popescu with cb/bp you need the address, then you need to watch it make sure it went through
22:59 mircea_popescu then you need to write support in the 50% of cases it did not go throught
22:59 mircea_popescu 10x as much brainpower wasted.
23:00 kakobrekla you need to select between 2 options. now you need to understand both and on top make a decision. if you opt for the second one, you also need to fetch the return address, since you dont understand what originating fucking address is.
23:00 decimation asciilifeform: re: apple phone clones << still no qwerty-keyboard phone released recently as far as I know
23:00 mircea_popescu kakobrekla you can safely ignore all that
23:00 mircea_popescu after your first payment fails for whatever reason, you get a full node client, pre 0.7 and run that.
23:00 mircea_popescu takes you 20 minutes, helps the network, all further thinking is not needed.
23:01 kakobrekla 20 min + 10 days
23:01 mircea_popescu it's not the case anymore
23:01 mircea_popescu try it sometime.
23:01 TheNewDeal why does cb have to watch the address
23:02 TheNewDeal just send and forget
23:02 mircea_popescu TheNewDeal tis in teh log
23:02 TheNewDeal !s teh log
23:02 assbot 35 results for 'teh log' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=teh+log
23:02 kakobrekla i hear from people who i sent to use the thing
23:02 mircea_popescu kakobrekla i hear from people "using" coinbase.
23:02 mircea_popescu so do you.
23:03 mircea_popescu that spring water has complaints does not mean sprite doesn't have 500x that many complaints.
23:03 mircea_popescu "Florida's theory asserts that metropolitan regions with high concentrations of technology workers, artists, musicians, lesbians and gay men, and a group he describes as "high bohemians", exhibit a higher level of economic development."
23:03 mircea_popescu this guy is fucking epic.
23:03 mircea_popescu "move to florida, people live longer there"
23:04 boolrap so if there are more gays and lesbians the GDP will be huge?
23:04 mircea_popescu it's not that the lesbians flock to the places where rich people live, because they need that trickle down effect to survive in their incredibly inefficient lifestyle.
23:04 decimation he's communist who is a living mockery of communism
23:04 mircea_popescu boolrap well, you could export all the pronz the chinese could ever want
23:04 mircea_popescu in exchange for the dildos used in the making of.
23:04 boolrap thats alot of dildos
23:04 mircea_popescu "With the rise of Google, the gurus of Web 2.0, and the call from business leaders (often seen in publications such as Business 2.0) for a more creative, as well as skilled, workforce, Florida asserts that the contemporary relevance of his research is easy to see."
23:05 mircea_popescu this guy is basically a 9gag meme.
23:05 decimation mircea_popescu: there's a whole 'gentrification theory' based on gays moving to a neighborhood full of swarthy thugs and making it 'safe' for women and children
23:05 mircea_popescu seriously, gurus of web2.0 ?
23:06 mircea_popescu decimation looking forward to the special cosplay division of the nypd
23:06 mircea_popescu "catching bad guys through wearing spiderman suits"
23:06 boolrap yeah i heard that before
23:06 boolrap how if you have a gay uncle you are more likely to do well and reproduce because its like having another mom around.
23:07 decimation it's a classic case of cum hoc ergo propter hoc
23:07 mircea_popescu without even any cum
23:07 decimation heh
23:07 mircea_popescu boolrap more moms around are a benefit now ?!
23:07 boolrap im not sure
23:08 mircea_popescu i seriously never met anyone who regretted not having more mom.
23:08 mircea_popescu as far as i know, 99% of it is "i wish i had a dad"
23:08 boolrap haha
23:08 boolrap i think ur dad is more likely to take you out and get u killed.
23:08 mircea_popescu either for not having one at all, or for having had one that was too close to a mom
23:09 mircea_popescu and as far as womenz are concerned, they generally wish they had no mom at all anyway.
23:09 boolrap why
23:09 boolrap i dont see this.
23:09 mircea_popescu ask a teenager sometime.
23:09 boolrap well
23:09 boolrap they grow out of it
23:09 mircea_popescu not the point now is it.
23:10 kakobrekla there are also psychological effects - i wonder if we would see a diff if i added a fake 5 min timer at the last step of the bet address request.
23:10 kakobrekla prolly too much noise.
23:10 mircea_popescu even bob florida will eventually grow out of it, mostly by being dead.
23:10 mircea_popescu kakobrekla prolly, but meh. asshole move.
23:11 TheNewDeal ;;lastblock
23:11 gribble Error: "lastblock" is not a valid command.
23:12 TheNewDeal ;;timesincelastblock
23:12 gribble Error: "timesincelastblock" is not a valid command.
23:12 mircea_popescu ;;tslb
23:12 mircea_popescu and it's broken
23:12 boolrap so speaking of women
23:12 boolrap what kind of cake
23:12 boolrap are you eating tonight
23:12 gribble Time since last block: 7 minutes and 17 seconds
23:12 decimation lol Florida: "Washington’s economy has clearly prospered from federal spending; lobbying and government contracts are significant sources of its wealth. But its economy is not entirely or even predominantly parasitic. "
23:12 boolrap mircea_popescu: what % of your womens time is spent for meals?
23:13 mircea_popescu say about 45 minutes a day ?
23:13 mircea_popescu mebbe an hour, make it round
23:13 boolrap hrm
23:13 boolrap do they all prepare meals together?
23:13 mircea_popescu and mind you i have exactly no appliances here.
23:14 boolrap what do you mean no appliances, you have to make a fire to cook your meals?
23:14 mircea_popescu boolrap depends. but in general, unless you're making something like strudel it doesn't take that long to fix a meal.
23:14 mircea_popescu boolrap well obviously, i mean, no kitchen robots and the like.
23:14 hanbot kakobrekla how about people who need a timer don't get to bet
23:15 boolrap no blenders?
23:15 hanbot otherwise you'll end up sewing bitbet seatbelts and gluing do not eat labels and...
23:15 boolrap how is the food over there?
23:15 mircea_popescu pretty great.
23:15 boolrap whats in season right now, its spring time soon ?
23:15 mircea_popescu and no, no blenders, handmade mayo, etc.
23:15 boolrap right, the way it should be
23:15 mircea_popescu the winter rarely frosts, so really everything's in season.
23:16 boolrap i see
23:16 boolrap yeah i could not live there, i need winter time
23:16 boolrap to be harsh
23:16 boolrap not terribly harsh just, several blizzards every year would be great.
23:16 decimation I wonder how many folks 'commute' between hemispheres to avoid winter
23:16 boolrap i think if you do it 10 times you get transported to another world
23:16 mircea_popescu decimation it's not really worth it. plenty of places where there's no winter. go to san jose, cr, problem solved.
23:17 mircea_popescu commuting gets obnoxious.
23:17 decimation true. travel wears a man down
23:17 kakobrekla hanbot sure one can be like that. but dunno how can we be so naive, if you read logs you must be aware ascii listed countless superior tech solutions that ended up in the trash bin or forgotten.
23:18 mircea_popescu there's a difference between the babies dead of neglect in 1905 and the baby dieing of neglect right now.
23:18 mircea_popescu this one audibly screams.
23:19 kakobrekla dunno, 'right now' is totally biased.
23:20 mircea_popescu true.
23:20 mircea_popescu decimation http://www.weather.gov.hk/wxinfo/climat/world/eng/s_america/mx_cam/san_jose_e.htm << there you igo.
23:20 assbot Climatological Normals of San Jose
23:20 mircea_popescu land of perpetual spring.
23:21 mircea_popescu varies from 21.2 to 23.0
23:21 decimation sounds like tyrannical sameness to me
23:21 mircea_popescu minimums 17ish, maximums 28ish
23:21 mircea_popescu well, no winter.
23:21 mircea_popescu always spring.
23:22 mircea_popescu it's quite lovely, especially if you feel like ruining spring for yourself.
23:22 mircea_popescu by the principle "for every incredibly hot woman there's at least one guy totally sick of her ass"
23:23 decimation perhaps the best climate is the most random one
23:23 boolrap yeah i like something a bit more exciting
23:23 mircea_popescu everyone vouches for whatever they were born in.
23:23 mircea_popescu siberia or sahara, best is in the butt of the bestholder.
23:24 decimation it would be interesting to analyze weather data with this in mind
23:25 decimation yeah, I think the conditions of weather, population density, living arrangements, etc imprint themselves during childhood
23:26 mircea_popescu something about tits.
23:26 decimation !up boolrap
23:27 boolrap tyty
23:27 mthreat Top Gear is filming in Bariloche, Patagonia starting this week - http://autoblog.com.ar/2014/09/top-gear-argentina/
23:27 assbot Primicia: Top Gear grabar un episodio en la Patagonia argentina | ARGENTINA AUTOBLOG
23:27 decimation clarkson needs to get off his lazy ass and make more episodes
23:27 mircea_popescu mthreat you going ?
23:27 kakobrekla my closing point is, its not enough to have 'the best product'. history is full of such examples.
23:28 TheNewDeal better to have apple
23:28 mircea_popescu kakobrekla true, depends in whose hands it is.
23:28 mthreat mircea_popescu: we're going to patagonia, but in October....
23:28 Bet placed: 3.2969 BTC for No on "Bitcoin $817 or above before Christmas" http://bitbet.us/bet/1043/ Odds: 1(Y):99(N) by coin, 1(Y):99(N) by weight. Total bet: 3.3978 BTC. Current weight: 99,898.
23:28 mircea_popescu im sort-of thinking about it, but more like december
23:29 mircea_popescu atm pleasantly cool here.
23:29 mthreat ya. december and january are very hot here, and the "cortes de luz" (power outages) were a pain last year. Best time to get out in my opinion.
23:30 mircea_popescu supposedly macri fixed everything
23:30 mircea_popescu and he's going to run a budget without taxation or inflation too
23:31 mthreat tempting to do a BitBet on that...
23:31 mthreat "Dolarblue will reach 20 pesos by ...."
23:31 mircea_popescu not a bad idea.
23:32 mircea_popescu actually when is the election again ?
23:32 mthreat 2015 right, for presidente
23:32 mthreat not sure which month
23:32 hanbot mthreat http://bitbet.us/bet/445/argentine-blue-dollar-buy-price-to-close-above/ historix
23:32 assbot BitBet - Argentine "Blue Dollar" buy price to close above 10 pesos on May 31 :: 0.16 B (62%) on Yes, 0.1 B (38%) on No | closed 1 year 3 months ago
23:33 mircea_popescu oct, not decided yet
23:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00075147 = 1.8787 BTC [+]
23:36 nubbins` http://i.imgur.com/5xEspAc.jpg
23:37 mircea_popescu http://dolarblue.net/historico/
23:37 assbot Precio Historico
23:39 decimation nubbins`: lol
23:41 cazalla mircea_popescu, i had planned to forum post past weekend, came down with flu so didn't get the chance, fever is the worst
23:42 mircea_popescu sucks man.
23:42 cazalla i'll get back to it once i'm better, prob a few more days
23:42 mircea_popescu aite,
23:52 mircea_popescu nubbins` you know i don't get this general conspiracy to stuff monkeys down kids' throats
23:52 mircea_popescu there is little in nature more objectionable than a live monkey of any kind
23:52 mircea_popescu but especially so a chimp.
23:52 nubbins` sure, but the abstract idea of them is nice
23:52 mircea_popescu i have no idea why they're not yet extinct, but it's right there on my list after mosquitoes.
23:53 nubbins` look at how cute their tails are!
23:53 mircea_popescu what's the abstract idea of them ?
23:53 mircea_popescu hm.
23:53 nubbins` a furry shape
23:53 mircea_popescu so they did it for the cosplay ?
23:54 assbot Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1TXV5V8.txt )
23:54 BingoBoingo !b 2
23:54 nubbins` hey now
23:56 penguirker New blog post: http://www.btcalpha.com/blog/2014/hot-slanted-bets/
23:57 mircea_popescu woot btcalpha is not dead
23:57 mircea_popescu ok this is pretty cool.
23:58 mike_c worth the wait
23:58 mircea_popescu no way the 15% is hottest at 3 btc past 3 days ?!
23:58 mike_c it was until 5 minutes ago
23:58 mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/1043/bitcoin-817-or-above-before-christmas#b4 < over 3 just there
23:58 assbot BitBet - Bitcoin $817 or above before Christmas :: 0.05 B (2%) on Yes, 3.37 B (98%) on No | closing in 3 months 4 days | weight: 99`876 (100`000 to 1)
23:58 mike_c now it's second
23:59 mircea_popescu o stale data ?
23:59 mike_c no, that's the hottest on the analysis page. it just missed the publishing deadline.
23:59 mircea_popescu aha
23:59 TheNewDeal thanks to this guy
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