| 00:12 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22300 @ 0.00077256 = 17.2281 BTC [+] |
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| 00:28 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20100 @ 0.00077136 = 15.5043 BTC [-] |
| 00:38 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15400 @ 0.00077299 = 11.904 BTC [+] {2} |
| 00:40 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26270 @ 0.00077028 = 20.2353 BTC [-] {3} |
| 00:52 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.0007686 = 1.6909 BTC [-] {2} |
| 01:05 |
cazalla |
!up tpt_toolbox |
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| 01:55 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28550 @ 0.00076908 = 21.9572 BTC [+] {2} |
| 02:07 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9729 @ 0.00077312 = 7.5217 BTC [+] |
| 02:10 |
ben_vulpes |
http://prestonbyrne.com/2014/09/06/you-must-be-goddamned-kidding/ << annals of smart contract failure |
| 02:10 |
assbot |
Those who cannot remember last week are condemned to repeat it | Preston Byrne |
| 02:12 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11064 @ 0.00077312 = 8.5538 BTC [+] |
| 02:23 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2650 @ 0.0007732 = 2.049 BTC [+] {2} |
| 02:34 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00077401 = 1.161 BTC [+] |
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| 03:20 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14957 @ 0.00077401 = 11.5769 BTC [+] |
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| 04:32 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25650 @ 0.0007765 = 19.9172 BTC [+] |
| 04:33 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3481 @ 0.0007745 = 2.696 BTC [-] |
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| 05:46 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11777 @ 0.00077477 = 9.1245 BTC [+] {2} |
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| 07:43 |
assbot |
CheckDavid +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0 |
| 07:46 |
BingoBoingo |
!up CheckDavid |
| 07:47 |
CheckDavid |
Thanks BingoBoingo |
| 07:47 |
CheckDavid |
No idea what happenes |
| 07:47 |
CheckDavid |
*happened |
| 07:48 |
CheckDavid |
Lost my wot level ? |
| 07:53 |
BingoBoingo |
? |
| 08:02 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6577 @ 0.00077306 = 5.0844 BTC [-] |
| 08:03 |
CheckDavid |
BingoBoingo: I used to be able to voice |
| 08:05 |
mircea_popescu |
CheckDavid it happens |
| 08:07 |
CheckDavid |
Awe :( |
| 08:07 |
CheckDavid |
*aw |
| 08:12 |
CheckDavid |
I wanted to ask what you think about secureae.com |
| 08:14 |
thestringpuller |
;;gettrust assbot CheckDavid |
| 08:14 |
gribble |
Currently authenticated from hostmask CheckDavid!uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zpqgextiikcqxjxg. Trust relationship from user assbot to user CheckDavid: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=CheckDavid | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=CheckDavid | Rated since: never |
| 08:14 |
thestringpuller |
are you even in wot? |
| 08:17 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
re: secureae.com - please don't |
| 08:30 |
Azelphur |
;;ident CheckDavid |
| 08:30 |
gribble |
Nick 'CheckDavid', with hostmask 'CheckDavid!uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zpqgextiikcqxjxg', is identified as user 'CheckDavid', with GPG key id None, key fingerprint None, and bitcoin address 1Mhu1uch32kgZstHpJNnbo61soPRXLQrDE |
| 08:31 |
Azelphur |
;;ratingsystem getrating CheckDavid |
| 08:31 |
gribble |
This user has not yet been rated. Currently authenticated from hostmask CheckDavid!uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zpqgextiikcqxjxg . |
| 08:31 |
Azelphur |
CheckDavid: ^ guess that's why, someone might have unrated you |
| 08:31 |
Azelphur |
;;rate CheckDavid 1 Worked with him for a little while, seems like a nice guy. |
| 08:31 |
gribble |
Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user CheckDavid has been recorded. |
| 08:35 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25900 @ 0.00077414 = 20.0502 BTC [+] |
| 08:39 |
mircea_popescu |
i had never heard of this secure whatevs |
| |
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| 08:59 |
assbot |
CheckDavid +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0 |
| 09:03 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10950 @ 0.00077709 = 8.5091 BTC [+] {2} |
| 09:07 |
ThickAsThieves |
i do think US education is a major culprit (just read the Mike OCD article) |
| 09:08 |
|
Bet placed: 3 BTC for Yes on "BTC Difficulty over 31Bn before October" http://bitbet.us/bet/1028/ Odds: 92(Y):8(N) by coin, 89(Y):11(N) by weight. Total bet: 79.00227226 BTC. Current weight: 31,634. |
| 09:09 |
ThickAsThieves |
recall our conversation about schools beating into our heads "You can be anything if you really want it, President of the US even!" |
| 09:10 |
BingoBoingo |
!up CheckDavid |
| 09:10 |
ThickAsThieves |
now we have piles of ads convincing 30somethings to attend University of Phoenix |
| 09:11 |
CheckDavid |
Thanks Azelphur |
| 09:11 |
CheckDavid |
But I guess its still not enough to voice? |
| 09:11 |
Azelphur |
guess not |
| 09:11 |
Azelphur |
;;gettrust assbot checkdavid |
| 09:11 |
gribble |
Currently authenticated from hostmask CheckDavid!uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zpqgextiikcqxjxg. Trust relationship from user assbot to user checkdavid: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=checkdavid | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=checkdavid | Rated since: Mon Sep 8 08:31:15 2014 |
| 09:11 |
CheckDavid |
Such hassle this wot thing lol |
| 09:12 |
ThickAsThieves |
another interesting phenomenon is US media hammering the concept of "eat fatty foods, not carbs" |
| 09:12 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
CheckDavid - http://trilema.com/2014/bitcoin-assets-m/ |
| 09:12 |
assbot |
#bitcoin-assets +m pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
| 09:13 |
ThickAsThieves |
started as diet fads like Atkins and Paleo, but now it just feels downright progandist |
| 09:13 |
ThickAsThieves |
propagandist* |
| 09:14 |
chetty |
is that about carbs or gluten? asciilifeform |
| 09:15 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
well, there is something to the fatty propagandizing - brains are mostly fat |
| 09:15 |
ThickAsThieves |
i think it's more to do with consumer manipulation |
| 09:15 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
sure, that too |
| 09:18 |
ThickAsThieves |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_Ph1zvw_xE |
| 09:18 |
assbot |
Air Castle blown away on beach (Katamari edit) - YouTube |
| 09:18 |
chetty |
I been curious for sure about the anti-gluten propagandising, havent heard the +fat much |
| 09:18 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1550 @ 0.00077377 = 1.1993 BTC [-] {2} |
| 09:22 |
ThickAsThieves |
in my own estimation, the gluten thing is more of a phenomenon relating to health-enthusiasts fucking up their bodies and either exacerbating gluten intolerance, or misdiagnosing it as the problem, rather than the symptom |
| 09:22 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves well, there are some advantages to fat over glucose. |
| 09:22 |
ThickAsThieves |
but i'm being a typical symbol-reading, word-menaing-guessing, god-worshipper in that |
| 09:22 |
mircea_popescu |
but it's not as simple as all that. |
| 09:23 |
ThickAsThieves |
(i dont worship god, just saying i'm wildly guessing) |
| 09:23 |
mircea_popescu |
nono, you said! |
| 09:25 |
chetty |
perhaps its god by some other names? like money? or earth or |
| 09:26 |
BingoBoingo |
The gluten thing is just because some members of the species don't have genetic compatibility with this "agriculture" thing yet... |
| |
↖ |
| 09:26 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-living/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/in-depth/fat/art-20045550 |
| 09:26 |
assbot |
Dietary fats: Know which types to choose - Mayo Clinic |
| 09:27 |
ThickAsThieves |
the media seem to make body weight the focus |
| 09:28 |
ThickAsThieves |
which is of course, appropriate on the surface |
| 09:28 |
CheckDavid |
Thanks RagnarDanneskjol |
| 09:28 |
ThickAsThieves |
US is fat as hell n all |
| 09:29 |
nubbins` |
exacerbating the gluten thing is the immense amount of refined sugars people consume in their bread/baked goods |
| 09:30 |
nubbins` |
oh, you had three honey croissants for breakfast? no fucking wonder you feel like shit |
| 09:30 |
chetty |
sweetened croissants should be illegal |
| 09:30 |
nubbins` |
"but they're so good" |
| 09:31 |
chetty |
ugh, I can not eat them, and they are the standard breakfast here :( |
| 09:31 |
BingoBoingo |
http://www.huhcorp.com/ |
| 09:31 |
assbot |
We do stuff. |
| 09:32 |
nubbins` |
i was reading an article recently about gluten actually |
| 09:33 |
nubbins` |
talked about these things called FODMAPS |
| 09:33 |
nubbins` |
"Instead, as RCS reported last week, FODMAPS are a far more likely cause of the gastrointestinal problems attributed to gluten intolerance." |
| 09:34 |
nubbins` |
"Coincidentally, some of the largest dietary sources of FODMAPs — specifically bread products — are removed when adopting a gluten-free diet" |
| 09:35 |
nubbins` |
protip: Budweiser beer is the only major-label brand available in Canada that does not contain gluten |
| 09:35 |
chetty |
I can't believe anybody still listens to the food police |
| 09:35 |
* |
nubbins` nods |
| 09:36 |
nubbins` |
i know several people who actually have celiac disease |
| 09:36 |
nubbins` |
if you don't have to ask "what brand of ketchup is this?" at the restaurant, you're not celiac |
| 09:36 |
chetty |
well thats different, its the nuts that dont have any actual reason .. |
| 09:36 |
nubbins` |
nod. there are so many |
| 09:36 |
nubbins` |
"i can't eat wheat" |
| 09:36 |
nubbins` |
bull fuckin shit |
| 09:37 |
nubbins` |
picking the croutons out of their salads |
| 09:37 |
chetty |
and then of course ask why celiac is much more common now than 50 years ago .. |
| 09:37 |
nubbins` |
shit modern diets, better detection? 8) |
| 09:38 |
nubbins` |
i kid |
| 09:38 |
chetty |
I saw a thing where they tested blood stored 50 years ago so its not better detection |
| 09:38 |
nubbins` |
lower standards for medical degrees ;D |
| 09:38 |
nubbins` |
honestly, i find it baffling the type of stuff people shove into their mouths |
| 09:39 |
nubbins` |
new roommate, younger fella. the only food he has in the house right now is pizza pops |
| 09:39 |
chetty |
I am NOT gonna ask wtf that is |
| 09:40 |
kakobrekla |
wait, no pizza tards? |
| 09:40 |
nubbins` |
oh, sorry, as i'm reading up on them, i realize it's canadian only |
| 09:40 |
nubbins` |
it's a pillsbury-brand pizza pocket |
| 09:40 |
nubbins` |
lotsa sodium benzoate, phenylalanine, all that good shit |
| 09:41 |
nubbins` |
the older i get, the more confused i get about humans and their determination to poison their bodies and the world around them as rapidly as possible |
| 09:41 |
nubbins` |
what's wrong with us? |
| 09:41 |
BingoBoingo |
nubbins`: phenylalanine in its levorotary form is actually nutritionally essential |
| 09:41 |
chetty |
were are all born with original sin :P |
| 09:42 |
nubbins` |
i know, i kid ;D |
| 09:42 |
nubbins` |
aspartame: not a neurotoxin |
| 09:42 |
nubbins` |
chetty: i was raised catholic, no need to tell me ;D |
| 09:42 |
nubbins` |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FODMAP |
| 09:42 |
assbot |
FODMAP - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
| 09:42 |
ThickAsThieves |
well people like smoking too |
| 09:42 |
ThickAsThieves |
which has yet to show much health benefit |
| 09:43 |
nubbins` |
HEH |
| 09:43 |
nubbins` |
srsly, read the first paragraph of that FODMAPS article |
| 09:43 |
xmj |
ThickAsThieves: there are -some- rare health benefits to smoking. |
| 09:43 |
nubbins` |
and tell me if a slice of fuckin bread is the problem these people are having |
| 09:43 |
ThickAsThieves |
smoking helps you poop |
| 09:43 |
ThickAsThieves |
it has that at least |
| 09:44 |
BingoBoingo |
smoking prevents parkinsons |
| 09:44 |
nubbins` |
tat +1 |
| 09:44 |
chetty |
I quit listening to the food police way back when they said grilled meat causes cancer |
| 09:44 |
xmj |
chetty: +++ |
| 09:44 |
nubbins` |
was interested to know galactose was a FODMAP |
| 09:45 |
ThickAsThieves |
i'm interested to know something is called galactose |
| 09:45 |
nubbins` |
pascale gave herself lactose intolerance from binge cheese eating :/ |
| 09:45 |
ThickAsThieves |
best sugar name ever |
| 09:45 |
nubbins` |
inorite?!?! |
| 09:45 |
nubbins` |
it's where lactose comes from :0 |
| 09:45 |
nubbins` |
and galactus, destroyer of worlds |
| 09:45 |
nubbins` |
(batch) |
| 09:45 |
ThickAsThieves |
:) |
| 09:45 |
nubbins` |
*natch |
| 09:46 |
nubbins` |
anyway, interesting shit |
| 09:46 |
nubbins` |
she's taken to buying lactose-free cheese |
| 09:46 |
ThickAsThieves |
this conversation was so much more enjoyable without diablod3 |
| 09:46 |
nubbins` |
they mix in the enzymes that digest latose during the manufacturing process |
| 09:47 |
ThickAsThieves |
there's a local vegan cheesemaker here that isnt bad |
| 09:47 |
chetty |
manufacturing cheese .... that just sounds wrong |
| 09:48 |
ThickAsThieves |
http://sunrawise.com/ |
| 09:48 |
assbot |
Home - SunRAWise |
| 09:48 |
nubbins` |
"Since lactose occurs mostly in milk, in most mammals, the production of lactase gradually decreases with maturity due to a lack of constant consumption." |
| 09:48 |
nubbins` |
^ fodder for the "humans weren't meant to eat dairy" crowd |
| 09:49 |
nubbins` |
of course we were 8) |
| 09:53 |
jurov |
;;ident smickles |
| 09:53 |
gribble |
Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead. |
| 09:53 |
jurov |
werd |
| 09:53 |
jurov |
!up smickles |
| 09:54 |
jurov |
;;gpg info smickles |
| 09:54 |
gribble |
User 'smickles', with keyid EA62D7CEB2450C3F, fingerprint 96ACCA7C3B09EC61B0A6D7F9EA62D7CEB2450C3F, and bitcoin address 12NjnZTVeTJ3g5C7BqfS2aQ2rLkmwiqVz6, registered on Mon Jun 20 15:24:35 2011, last authed on Mon Jun 9 16:01:44 2014. http://b-otc.com/vg?nick=smickles . Currently not authenticated. |
| 09:55 |
mircea_popescu |
http://trilema.com/2014/the-perfect-pitch/ this goes for asciilifeform RagnarDanneskjol jurov wao |
| 09:55 |
assbot |
The perfect pitch pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
| 09:56 |
jurov |
nanotube: ^^ smickles says he did auth |
| 09:56 |
mircea_popescu |
and of course anyone who likes to read, but the four are actually involved :D |
| 09:57 |
nubbins` |
http://imgur.com/a/CmDUI |
| 09:57 |
assbot |
Dads at One Direction concerts - Imgur |
| 09:58 |
nubbins` |
the face of sadness |
| 10:00 |
nubbins` |
it seems like whenever i visit trilema in chrome incognito mode, it resets my credits cookie |
| 10:00 |
jurov |
smickles refuses to auth in chan - warning, it's an impostor! |
| 10:00 |
mircea_popescu |
odd. |
| 10:00 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` kinda what incognito does no ? |
| 10:01 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10000 @ 0.00005483 = 0.5483 BTC [+] {3} |
| 10:01 |
nubbins` |
er well, i mean when i exit incognito mode and use a regular browser window again |
| 10:02 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10000 @ 0.00005488 = 0.5488 BTC [+] |
| 10:02 |
nubbins` |
i guess the incognito tab doesn't give up the existing cookie, site can't find it, sends one over... but i'm surprised that'd overwrite the existing cookie |
| 10:02 |
mircea_popescu |
i guess this is then a chrome bug actually. |
| 10:03 |
mircea_popescu |
it should session cookies or something |
| 10:03 |
nubbins` |
i'mma look into it further |
| 10:03 |
mircea_popescu |
there's probably some attack avenue against the incognito mode through this. |
| 10:04 |
nubbins` |
anything unusual about how trilema sets/fetches cookies? |
| 10:06 |
mircea_popescu |
not that i know of. |
| 10:06 |
mircea_popescu |
tis php. |
| 10:07 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
mircea_popescu - fascinating as always you human being!. think I'll need to read that twice at least and start learning some Rom |
| 10:09 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
| 10:11 |
nanotube |
jurov: if he authed, then left the channel, he gets unauthed. |
| 10:12 |
mircea_popescu |
nanotube meanwhile it turns out someone was impostoring |
| 10:12 |
mircea_popescu |
tried to claim the system dun work. |
| 10:13 |
jurov |
just pasted me fake gribble output and insisted "this is proof im authed" |
| 10:14 |
nubbins` |
heh |
| 10:14 |
nubbins` |
classic -otc trick ;( |
| 10:14 |
penguirker |
New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/the-perfect-pitch/ |
| 10:14 |
nubbins` |
scammers gonna scam |
| 10:14 |
nubbins` |
;;view 21372 |
| 10:14 |
gribble |
#21372 Sun Aug 31 23:42:26 2014 nubbins` SELL 1.0 'What is Bitcoin?' silkscreened art print @ 45 USD (18x24", 5-color silkscreen on white Cougar acid-free paper, limited edition of 50 (only 8 left), shipping week of August 31, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=756955.0) |
| 10:15 |
nubbins` |
^ actually only 3 left now; hoping to get all outstanding packages mailed today |
| 10:15 |
mircea_popescu |
cool beanz. |
| 10:16 |
nanotube |
heh ic |
| 10:17 |
nubbins` |
meantime, what sorta rates do your uni kids offer? i've been doing a bitta research myself, seems $1/poster (plus printing) is average for traditional postering crews in large cities |
| 10:17 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29800 @ 0.00077245 = 23.019 BTC [-] {3} |
| 10:19 |
mircea_popescu |
i have no idea, ima ask teh person in charge. |
| 10:19 |
nubbins` |
kk |
| 10:20 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 9725 @ 0.00005488 = 0.5337 BTC [+] |
| |
~ 20 minutes ~ |
| 10:41 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24840 @ 0.000778 = 19.3255 BTC [+] {2} |
| 10:42 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2019 @ 0.00077869 = 1.5722 BTC [+] |
| 10:53 |
BingoBoingo |
http://trilema.com/2014/the-perfect-pitch/#footnote_25_56335 << Beautiful, very true |
| 10:53 |
assbot |
The perfect pitch pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
| 10:53 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10194 @ 0.00077173 = 7.867 BTC [-] {2} |
| 10:54 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2918 @ 0.00077071 = 2.2489 BTC [-] |
| 10:55 |
chetty |
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-banks-muslims-20140907-story.html#page=1 |
| 10:55 |
assbot |
Bank clients of Middle Eastern descent want answers on closed accounts - LA Times |
| 10:55 |
mircea_popescu |
chetty o.i |
| 10:55 |
mircea_popescu |
it's becoming a sport by now huh |
| 10:57 |
chetty |
apparently |
| 10:59 |
mircea_popescu |
!up yona_ |
| 10:59 |
BingoBoingo |
I didnt say that, did I ? << Amazing how saving something makes everyone think you favor it. |
| 11:00 |
mircea_popescu |
;;google billy mumphrey was a simple country boy |
| 11:00 |
gribble |
Seinfeld Scripts - The Doodle: <http://www.seinfeldscripts.com/TheDoodle.htm>; Billy Mumphrey | The Seinfeld Dictionary: <http://theseinfelddictionary.com/2008/05/21/billy-mumphrey/>; B | The Seinfeld Dictionary: <http://theseinfelddictionary.com/category/b/> |
| 11:02 |
mod6 |
%tslb |
| 11:02 |
atcbot |
Time Since Last ATC Block: 0 hour(s), 18 minutes |
| 11:03 |
mircea_popescu |
that's a wonder. |
| 11:03 |
nubbins` |
i was walking through a parking lot last night and as i passed this tracksuit-wearing guy, he shouts "GO FUCK YOURSELF, YA SLUT" at his phone and then starts walking really closely behind me |
| 11:03 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
ahahaha |
| 11:04 |
nubbins` |
for like 2 blocks! |
| 11:05 |
mircea_popescu |
did it make you horny ? |
| 11:14 |
assbot |
Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0QP4H1H.txt ) |
| 11:14 |
BingoBoingo |
!b 4 |
| 11:20 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20720 @ 0.00077051 = 15.965 BTC [-] {3} |
| 11:24 |
nubbins` |
unfortunately no |
| 11:29 |
ThickAsThieves |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF7HxLCFMeY&feature=youtu.be&t=8s :09 |
| 11:29 |
assbot |
PayPal Voices - YouTube |
| 11:30 |
ThickAsThieves |
"we can spend bitcoin with a tap" |
| 11:30 |
ThickAsThieves |
"we have magic money" |
| 11:33 |
Duffer1 |
if you play it backwards it says "kill your family" |
| 11:33 |
ThickAsThieves |
paypal be trollin |
| 11:35 |
kakobrekla |
and if you modulate it, you get "i am the great cornholio" |
| 11:37 |
ThickAsThieves |
get your D.BPAY while you can, before PayPal announces buyout! |
| 11:39 |
nubbins` |
heh |
| 11:40 |
nubbins` |
the enunciation is a little bit weird around that part |
| 11:40 |
ThickAsThieves |
indeed |
| 11:40 |
ThickAsThieves |
but the page looks legit |
| 11:40 |
nubbins` |
yeah, i can't think of anything else it'd be either |
| 11:46 |
mircea_popescu |
!t m d.bpay |
| 11:46 |
assbot |
Your actions are useless. |
| 11:46 |
mircea_popescu |
heh. |
| 11:47 |
nubbins` |
;;google we don't believe in anything |
| 11:47 |
gribble |
Kanye West & Jay Z (Ft. Frank Ocean) - No Church in the Wild ...: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M37VucWh06Y>; When Man Ceases to Worship God - The American Chesterton Society: <http://www.chesterton.org/ceases-to-worship/>; Myth: Atheists Believe In Nothing: Don't Atheists Care About Anything?: <http://atheism.about.com/od/atheismatheistsbeliefs/a/BelieveNothing.htm> |
| 11:47 |
nubbins` |
bah |
| 11:48 |
nubbins` |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AEMiz6rcxc |
| 11:48 |
assbot |
The Big Lebowski - Parking / Nihilists scene - YouTube |
| 11:52 |
nubbins` |
also: you can rent full movies on youtube now? wat? |
| 11:52 |
nubbins` |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgKhPObZeaw&src_vid=7AEMiz6rcxc&feature=iv&annotation_id=pfc%3A0 |
| 11:52 |
assbot |
The Big Lebowski - YouTube |
| 12:00 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 7.04942644 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 613 satoshi per share |
| 12:02 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9250 @ 0.00077294 = 7.1497 BTC [+] |
| 12:04 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.40915124 BTC to 15`372 shares, 9167 satoshi per share |
| 12:11 |
BingoBoingo |
%d |
| 12:21 |
BingoBoingo |
;;ticker |
| 12:21 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 470.74, Best ask: 470.75, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 470.74, 24 hour volume: 10125.52697634, 24 hour low: 456.3, 24 hour high: 480.99, 24 hour vwap: 467.950837666 |
| 12:27 |
BingoBoingo |
%d |
| 12:27 |
atcbot |
[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 276459.33 in 1344 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -85.28 |
| 12:42 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 820 @ 0.00062192 = 0.51 BTC [-] {8} |
| |
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| 13:01 |
nubbins` |
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/more-needs-to-be-done-to-prevent-moose-collisions-fire-chief-1.2758634 |
| 13:01 |
assbot |
More needs to be done to prevent moose collisions: fire chief - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News |
| 13:01 |
nubbins` |
(graphic pic) |
| 13:07 |
rithm |
;;later tell mircea_popescu y u disturb my slumber |
| 13:07 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 13:08 |
punkman |
http://www.kxii.com/home/headlines/GreenDot-to-discontinue-Moneypak-due-to-scams--274190441.html |
| 13:08 |
punkman |
teh lulz |
| 13:21 |
nubbins` |
!t h hif |
| 13:21 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK:HIF] 1D: 0.00010290 / 0.0001029 / 0.00010290 (15 shares, 0.00154350 BTC), 7D: 0.00006400 / 8.524E-5 / 0.00010290 (1800 shares, 0.15343332 BTC), 30D: 0.00004757 / 6.809E-5 / 0.00010290 (16212 shares, 1.10386301 BTC) |
| 13:25 |
nubbins` |
punkman: do you want your poster rolled or flat-packed? |
| |
~ 17 minutes ~ |
| 13:43 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25400 @ 0.00077239 = 19.6187 BTC [-] |
| 13:50 |
thestringpuller |
nubbins`: what is the timeline on the shirts? |
| 13:52 |
nubbins` |
we were aiming for them to be in your hands within 3 weeks of payment, so ~09/20-ish |
| 13:54 |
thestringpuller |
and the poster? |
| 14:07 |
nubbins` |
shipping today/tomorrow |
| 14:12 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23300 @ 0.0007723 = 17.9946 BTC [-] {2} |
| 14:25 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7950 @ 0.00077144 = 6.1329 BTC [-] |
| 14:37 |
kakobrekla |
who is managing s.mg on havelock ? |
| 14:42 |
nubbins` |
havelock is |
| 14:42 |
nubbins` |
tat gave it up back in feb |
| 14:43 |
nubbins` |
fun fact, it's actually running through a coinbr acct |
| |
~ 24 minutes ~ |
| 15:07 |
thestringpuller |
havelock is rogue as shit |
| 15:07 |
thestringpuller |
lol |
| 15:12 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12900 @ 0.00077118 = 9.9482 BTC [-] {2} |
| 15:15 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6536 @ 0.00077112 = 5.04 BTC [-] |
| 15:16 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4650 @ 0.00076889 = 3.5753 BTC [-] {2} |
| 15:20 |
nubbins` |
hey, at least their HIF expenses are right on par |
| 15:20 |
nubbins` |
income is off by orders of magnitude, but you can't have it all |
| 15:23 |
kakobrekla |
on par with what |
| 15:24 |
xmj |
do you guys have an intro doc for working with gribble and assbot ? |
| 15:25 |
kakobrekla |
!help |
| 15:25 |
assbot |
http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots |
| 15:25 |
kakobrekla |
prolly needs some updating but most is true |
| 15:25 |
xmj |
thx |
| 15:26 |
xmj |
im trying to nag the guy behind bettingblocks.com to join us |
| 15:26 |
xmj |
and he'll need that howto :-) |
| 15:29 |
kakobrekla |
then you need http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets |
| 15:29 |
assbot |
first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki] |
| 15:31 |
xmj |
forwarded, thx |
| 15:32 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28574 @ 0.0007726 = 22.0763 BTC [+] {2} |
| 15:40 |
xmj |
!up Rangerk |
| 15:40 |
Rangerk |
thx |
| 15:40 |
xmj |
there we go :-) |
| 15:41 |
xmj |
everyone, rangerk. rangerk, everyone. ;-) |
| 15:41 |
BingoBoingo |
Hello |
| 15:41 |
Rangerk |
Hello |
| 15:41 |
Rangerk |
:) |
| 15:41 |
Rangerk |
Betting Blocks ---> |
| 15:41 |
Rangerk |
goo.gl/7hDBxm Bet on the miners of future bitcoin blocks. |
| 15:41 |
xmj |
fluffypony: Rangerk would be the one behind bettingblocks.com |
| 15:42 |
fluffypony |
oh sweet |
| 15:42 |
fluffypony |
very cool |
| 15:42 |
Rangerk |
Already > 0.1 Btc on block #319777 :) |
| 15:42 |
Rangerk |
betting closes in 4.5 hours |
| 15:43 |
Rangerk |
Feedback is very welcome. We just launched. |
| 15:45 |
Rangerk |
xmj -- tell me about bitcoin assets plz. |
| 15:46 |
kakobrekla |
;;topic |
| 15:46 |
gribble |
http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com || http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com |
| 15:49 |
xmj |
Rangerk: ben_vulpes introduced me to this one given similar interests |
| 15:50 |
Rangerk |
Seems mircea_popescu is active on your blog. :) |
| 15:52 |
Rangerk |
Oh, this is MPEX. |
| 15:52 |
Rangerk |
Duh. |
| 15:59 |
BingoBoingo |
;;ticker --market all |
| 15:59 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 469.79, vol: 14485.98789274 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 471.646, vol: 5877.9332 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 472.01, vol: 16021.46251536 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 475.247718, vol: 14510.01560000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 488.76711, vol: 41.88066936 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 482.55159, vol: 81.70229466 | Volume-weighted last average: 472.289189203 |
| 16:01 |
BingoBoingo |
http://www.theverge.com/2014/9/8/6121363/reddit-is-a-failed-state |
| 16:01 |
assbot |
Reddit is a failed state | The Verge |
| 16:03 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11321 @ 0.00076906 = 8.7065 BTC [-] {2} |
| |
~ 15 minutes ~ |
| 16:18 |
mircea_popescu |
Rangerk hm ? |
| 16:20 |
mircea_popescu |
rithm cuz what's the loan thing ? |
| 16:20 |
mircea_popescu |
<punkman> teh lulz << quite. |
| 16:23 |
kakobrekla |
!up Rangerk |
| 16:24 |
punkman |
Rangerk, website was a bit unclear, if block ends up in Other, do I lose? |
| 16:27 |
jurov |
If the miner hasn't been determined by the above methods, we roll the prize money over into a future race as a cherry bonus. |
| 16:27 |
jurov |
• What happens if the miner is known, but wasn't one of the betting options? |
| 16:27 |
jurov |
Same thing. We roll the prize money over into a future race as a cherry bonus. |
| 16:27 |
jurov |
punkman ^ |
| 16:28 |
mircea_popescu |
isn't this kind-of vulnerable to miner collusion ? |
| 16:29 |
mircea_popescu |
i mean what's the advantage to rolling this dice as opposed to roling a proper, provably fair dice ? |
| 16:30 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26300 @ 0.00077015 = 20.2549 BTC [+] {2} |
| 16:31 |
mircea_popescu |
CEO Yishan Wong finally addressed the controversy on Saturday by releasing a remarkably clueless manifesto. Reddit, he wrote, is "not just a company running a website where one can post links and discuss them, but the government of a new type of community." So, then, what type of government is Reddit? It's the kind any reasonable person would want to overthrow |
| 16:31 |
mircea_popescu |
ayup, pretty much lifted straight from mp pr. |
| 16:32 |
jurov |
lol how would the miners collude? if they could they already would... |
| 16:32 |
mircea_popescu |
course the verge is then taking it exactly the opposite way, but hey. |
| 16:32 |
punkman |
miner can bet after he finds the block, no? |
| 16:33 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov you realise this is purely declaratory ? i can publish blocks on any ip i want. |
| 16:33 |
jurov |
but it does not use IPs |
| 16:33 |
mircea_popescu |
so here, i found a block, you publish it and we split the pot. |
| 16:33 |
mircea_popescu |
that's collusion innit ? |
| 16:33 |
punkman |
why collude in this case |
| 16:33 |
jurov |
miner can sign the block with his signature |
| 16:34 |
mircea_popescu |
punkman the pot, i mean the betting pot. |
| 16:34 |
jurov |
it's not dependent on who publishes it |
| 16:34 |
mircea_popescu |
"here, sign this block i found" |
| 16:34 |
mircea_popescu |
"we split the pot" |
| 16:34 |
punkman |
mircea_popescu: yeah but why wouldn't the miner bet on himself |
| 16:34 |
punkman |
o never mind, got it |
| 16:34 |
mircea_popescu |
because the logical outcome is for all pool ops to contriburte some btc, all make the same bet on the same one guy |
| 16:34 |
mircea_popescu |
then give him the found blocks whoever finds them |
| 16:35 |
mircea_popescu |
but whether this attack is practical or not, or even theoretically feasible : |
| 16:35 |
mircea_popescu |
what is the advantage of a reimplementation of a dubious solution to a solved problem ? |
| 16:35 |
jurov |
if they can collude about mutually signing blocks, they can collude over much worse things |
| 16:35 |
mircea_popescu |
that's no defense. |
| 16:37 |
jurov |
okay, but since operator is not affected it's not a worry for him |
| 16:38 |
jurov |
like, the same can be said about bitbet's difficulty bets |
| 16:38 |
jurov |
and you don't give a fuck |
| 16:38 |
mircea_popescu |
how can the same be said ? |
| 16:38 |
jurov |
miners can collude for difficulty bet to come out a certai way |
| 16:39 |
mircea_popescu |
but then the difficulty would actually have to be that. |
| 16:39 |
mircea_popescu |
there's a difference between purely declaratory statements and actually measurable objective reality. |
| 16:40 |
jurov |
also, is there any miner to explain - is the signature part of work given to minions or it can be slapped on afterwards? |
| 16:42 |
mircea_popescu |
!up xe4l |
| 16:48 |
jurov |
apparently the pool is assigned using newly mined coins' address |
| 16:48 |
jurov |
which tx is part of merkle root |
| 16:48 |
jurov |
and thus hardwired once block is found |
| 16:48 |
chetty |
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BxBIDdkCIAA1MtV.jpg:large -Phoenix no less |
| 16:49 |
jurov |
they would have to collude to divert newly minted coins to specific address beforehand |
| 16:49 |
jurov |
and everyone would see that |
| 16:50 |
jurov |
Rangerk you have no comment? |
| 16:51 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov if you can merge-mine for different chains, you can equally well merge-mine for alternative root addresses. |
| 16:52 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2948 @ 0.00055069 = 1.6234 BTC [-] {25} |
| 16:54 |
jurov |
i don't get this. changing "root" address will help how? |
| 16:54 |
chetty |
http://govtslaves.info/mastercard-rolls-orwellian-national-id-card/ |
| 16:54 |
assbot |
MasterCard Rolls Out Orwellian National ID Card - |
| 16:55 |
jurov |
still we're at point some OCD miner notices he's getting from ghash.io work with root address destined for some other pool |
| 16:55 |
BingoBoingo |
!up Rangerk |
| 16:56 |
mircea_popescu |
chetty lol is this the us dept solution to nigerian scammers ? |
| 16:57 |
jurov |
so, i assert it is not "purely declaratory" but actual work the miners have to chew on |
| 16:58 |
jurov |
but.. i'm not miner and maybe i;m mistaken. that there is none in this channel makes me a bit sad. |
| 16:58 |
chetty |
miners are all on a beach somewhere |
| 16:58 |
jurov |
no theyre in closet |
| 16:59 |
mircea_popescu |
nobody mines anymoar (tm) |
| 16:59 |
mircea_popescu |
hey X-Rob you there ? |
| 16:59 |
X-Rob |
mircea_popescu: Indeed I am |
| 17:00 |
mircea_popescu |
so, could the pool ops so collude as described ? |
| 17:04 |
* |
X-Rob scrolls back |
| 17:05 |
BingoBoingo |
Scrolling up should be a sport |
| 17:06 |
X-Rob |
Ah. BettingBlocks.com? |
| 17:06 |
* |
X-Rob reads up on them |
| 17:07 |
mircea_popescu |
the contention is whether "Who found a block" has any substance to it past "we say so" |
| 17:07 |
X-Rob |
mircea_popescu: Well, that's an interesting question. Several pools mine to an explicitly well known address. |
| 17:07 |
mircea_popescu |
sure, but what of it. |
| 17:07 |
X-Rob |
so you can look at the block and know that, 100%, p2pool mined that block, for example |
| 17:08 |
mircea_popescu |
other than making people with a soft understanding of the protocol make wrong assumptions |
| 17:08 |
mircea_popescu |
well no, you don't actually know that. |
| 17:08 |
X-Rob |
However. There are a large number of pools where you can only guess. And 'because I say so' is about as much certainty as you're going to get. |
| 17:09 |
X-Rob |
mircea_popescu: Well, p2pool is a specific case, and I probably shouldn't have used it, because that's one of the ones you /can/ be 100% certain about. |
| 17:09 |
mircea_popescu |
ok, p2pool aside. |
| 17:09 |
X-Rob |
but that's only 1%-ish of the network |
| 17:09 |
X-Rob |
so, let's disregard that |
| 17:09 |
X-Rob |
and say.. eligius. |
| 17:10 |
X-Rob |
There are two things that you can 'know' about a block. The destination of its mined coins, and the coinbase. |
| 17:10 |
X-Rob |
Both of those together can give you a good indication of who mined the block. If the destination of the coins is to a known pool address, then that pool ended up with the coins. |
| 17:11 |
mircea_popescu |
but the fact that the pool ended up with the coins is no sort of prof the pool mined the block. |
| 17:11 |
X-Rob |
Wether or not they MINED the coins is a different question, but I can't see any advantage in pool C mining coins for pool B |
| 17:11 |
mircea_popescu |
it's prima facie evidence, and absent any actual economic incentive to lie it may stand as acceptable "proof" |
| 17:11 |
mircea_popescu |
given actual economic incentive to lie however, it's worthless. |
| 17:11 |
BingoBoingo |
Well, depends on how big the pot on the who mines block X bet gets |
| 17:11 |
mircea_popescu |
X-Rob well the advantage would be that they win a bet, get more btc. |
| 17:12 |
X-Rob |
This would only be an issue in a closed pool, however. |
| 17:12 |
mircea_popescu |
why ? |
| 17:12 |
BingoBoingo |
%p |
| 17:12 |
X-Rob |
Why would I hash privately and mine at pool C, whjen I can just hash at pool B to start with? |
| 17:12 |
atcbot |
No data returned from CoinMiner.net |
| 17:12 |
atcbot |
[PityThePool Hashrate]: 830.74 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 1.44 TH/s |
| 17:12 |
BingoBoingo |
%d |
| 17:12 |
atcbot |
[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 276948.13 in 1338 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -85.25 |
| 17:12 |
X-Rob |
I'll earn my PPLNS, plus I'll win the bet. |
| 17:12 |
mircea_popescu |
and spare me with the "miners will know", there have been three times in history, including today and recently, pools which split their rewards across to pretend like they don't have 50% of the hash rate |
| 17:12 |
X-Rob |
which is more |
| 17:12 |
mircea_popescu |
and the miners never knew. |
| 17:13 |
mircea_popescu |
so no, they wouldn't "know" jack shit on a stick |
| 17:13 |
assbot |
Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3TSZAK3.txt ) |
| 17:13 |
BingoBoingo |
!b 2 |
| 17:13 |
BingoBoingo |
%t |
| 17:13 |
atcbot |
[X-BT] Bid: 205 Ask: 221 Last Price: 221 24h-Vol: 2k High: 221 Low: 221 VWAP: 221 |
| 17:13 |
BingoBoingo |
%ob |
| 17:13 |
atcbot |
8k@260 2k@245 32k@221 | 12k@205 85k@198 6k@194 |
| 17:15 |
punkman |
http://sourceforge.net/p/enigmail/forum/support/thread/3e7268a4/ "Still as a computer scientist I need an answer to which system I will teach in my class next week. Command-line PGP ?!?" |
| 17:15 |
assbot |
Enigmail / Forum / Enigmail Support:WARNING: Enigmail 1.7 *completely* *broken* |
| 17:15 |
punkman |
you were gonna teach them Enigmail? Fuck you. |
| 17:17 |
BingoBoingo |
Enigmail used to just work, but I dun trust the new "Ease of Use" update. |
| 17:17 |
X-Rob |
My idea is, if I had bet on pool B mining block, and I controlled access to hardware that would bias pool B to mine the block, why wouldn't I just mine at pool B? I would win the bet -and- I would earn whatever percentage of the block the hardware earned, which would probably be more than 25% of the block reward. |
| 17:17 |
X-Rob |
But, let's assume that the bet is massive. Say, a million USD. |
| 17:17 |
mircea_popescu |
<punkman> you were gonna teach them Enigmail? Fuck you. <<< word. |
| 17:18 |
X-Rob |
A sum large enough to tempt even the most honest of pool operators. |
| 17:18 |
mircea_popescu |
yes command line pgp. who is this fuckwit. |
| 17:18 |
mircea_popescu |
X-Rob because you're not you. you're the pool op, who has to make a buck, and who is friends with the other pool ops. |
| 17:18 |
X-Rob |
There would be several options. The simplest would be to /still/ mine at Pool B with the hashrate of the other pools |
| 17:19 |
X-Rob |
But, woe, your hashrate didn't mine that block. p2pool got it. |
| 17:19 |
X-Rob |
You still have a massive percentage of the hashrate of the entire btc network. |
| 17:19 |
X-Rob |
Time to orphan blocks. |
| 17:19 |
mircea_popescu |
right. |
| 17:19 |
X-Rob |
So. |
| 17:20 |
X-Rob |
tl;dr: It's possible, but unlikely for less than say 50 * block reward |
| 17:20 |
mircea_popescu |
unless the method we describe in theory is actually implementable cheaper than we estimate, of course. |
| 17:21 |
X-Rob |
Everyone's a whore. It's just the price that varies. |
| 17:22 |
mircea_popescu |
nah, some girls do it for free. |
| 17:22 |
X-Rob |
I saw an amusing comment on reddit yesterday, on a photo of someone climbing a massive radio tower. They said 'You couldn't pay me enough to do that', and someone responded with '72.6 billion dollars. Per hour'. |
| 17:22 |
X-Rob |
So. Yes. Turns out you COULD pay him enough to do that. |
| 17:23 |
mircea_popescu |
lol k |
| 17:24 |
X-Rob |
But if I was to be offered say... 10* block reward to get block 1234 mined by pool B, I'd probably take that bet. |
| 17:24 |
BingoBoingo |
I think the price for a lot of pool ops would be 25.01 to 25.03 BTC |
| 17:25 |
jurov |
how many other pools you'd need to collude? |
| 17:25 |
mircea_popescu |
betting is an odds game. if you win 1% more than you lose, but you can rely on that 1%, you may cycle thousands of btc for a profit that well exceeds say coinbase's |
| 17:25 |
BingoBoingo |
!up Rangerk |
| 17:26 |
mircea_popescu |
so #eulora just succeeded in an infrastructure upgrade, taking crystal space from 38 something to 40 something. this is a major tech victory. |
| 17:26 |
BingoBoingo |
http://jabirproject.org/ << Iranian wtf distro team |
| 17:26 |
assbot |
Jabir Project | Jabir Technologies Official Blog |
| 17:26 |
mircea_popescu |
anyone know what fresias are ? |
| 17:26 |
jurov |
flowers |
| 17:27 |
mircea_popescu |
yup. so little kiosk downstairs has them, two dozen for 10 pesos. |
| 17:27 |
X-Rob |
BingoBoingo: The issue is not having the pool owner say 'Yes, I found block 1234', it's other people going 'Uh, actually, no, I found block 1234, here, it's addressed to me, here's me signing a transaction' |
| 17:27 |
mircea_popescu |
i just bought a bucket, came to about five bux |
| 17:27 |
X-Rob |
So you'd need to ACTUALLY have the pool find a block, or, as I said earlier, have pool C find the block for pool B, but that's economically foolish. |
| 17:28 |
BingoBoingo |
X-Rob: Right, but you have to realize how much a casino can came at 1 or 2 percent house edge over time. |
| 17:29 |
X-Rob |
BingoBoingo: I'm talking more about the technical issues of claiming a block |
| 17:29 |
X-Rob |
And lying about who found it. |
| 17:31 |
jurov |
i understood mp's situation as some pool owners mining together so that one of them will claim the blocks, and betting accordingly |
| 17:31 |
BingoBoingo |
X-Rob: Right, but if betting we are talking about a set of any particular blocks. |
| 17:31 |
jurov |
then, house will actually profit from the volume |
| 17:32 |
X-Rob |
jurov: That's... quite likely. |
| 17:32 |
jurov |
only the other bettors may have a problem |
| 17:32 |
BingoBoingo |
Both the house and pool operators could profit |
| 17:33 |
BingoBoingo |
This is a people problem and a trust problem. |
| 17:33 |
jurov |
the question is, can/will miners detect something untoward here? |
| 17:34 |
X-Rob |
Can they? Possibly. Will they? Amazingly unlikely. |
| 17:35 |
X-Rob |
There is a stratum command 'gettransactions' |
| 17:35 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah i wouldn't bet on that. |
| 17:35 |
X-Rob |
that your miner can use to ask for the list of transactions you're mining against, and check them against the merkle hash |
| 17:35 |
X-Rob |
However: It's only supported by eligius, as every other pool hates it. |
| 17:36 |
X-Rob |
And no-one has actually written anything useful for it. |
| 17:36 |
BingoBoingo |
X-Rob: Is this the Get block template thing? |
| 17:37 |
X-Rob |
GetBlockTemplate is /better/, and you have more control over it, as a miner, but honestly, statistically, no-one cares. |
| 17:37 |
X-Rob |
BingoBoingo: GBT is another protocol. |
| 17:37 |
mircea_popescu |
X-Rob and then, the "community" derps all about how bad it is that they're getting squeezed out by the large farms. |
| 17:38 |
X-Rob |
mircea_popescu: the problem is, it's not that people don't care, is that' they don't want to learn. They go 'magic internet money', and that's pretty much it. |
| 17:38 |
mircea_popescu |
right. which is why they SHOULD be squeezed out. |
| 17:38 |
X-Rob |
'I'm going to buy 10 S3's and set them up!' |
| 17:38 |
mircea_popescu |
no coutnry for lazy stupid men. |
| 17:39 |
thestringpuller |
is hanbot a bot? |
| 17:40 |
hanbot |
not bot. |
| 17:40 |
mircea_popescu |
only metaphorically. |
| 17:40 |
jurov |
thestringpuller this is her blog: http://thewhet.net/ |
| 17:40 |
assbot |
The Whet | a place for appetites |
| 17:40 |
X-Rob |
heh |
| 17:40 |
BingoBoingo |
Only a bot in the way MP routinely turns us all into bots |
| 17:40 |
mircea_popescu |
the blogbot! |
| 17:41 |
jurov |
i don't think bot can write this |
| 17:41 |
thestringpuller |
ah. da semall-a-scope! |
| 17:41 |
thestringpuller |
smell-a-scope* |
| 17:41 |
jurov |
;;smell thestringpuller |
| 17:41 |
gribble |
Error: "smell" is not a valid command. |
| 17:42 |
hanbot |
lol |
| 17:42 |
X-Rob |
+1 for futurama quote, thestringpuller |
| 17:42 |
mircea_popescu |
http://trilema.com/2010/viata-grea-a-blogerului-incepator/ << botbits. |
| 17:42 |
assbot |
Viata grea a blogerului incepator pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
| 17:42 |
thestringpuller |
good news everyone I have found a way to smell people on the internet |
| 17:43 |
mircea_popescu |
1. one drop acid on sugar cube ? |
| 17:43 |
jurov |
*acetic acid |
| 17:44 |
X-Rob |
So, taking a step back, and answering the big question 'what is stopping pool owners colluding to ensure pool B mines block 1234?' -- The answer is 'nothing'. And to expand on that, 'Nothing, and it's unlikely that someone would even notice, as long as the miners keep getting their pennies' |
| 17:45 |
mircea_popescu |
ty. ever been expert witness in legal proceedings before ? |
| 17:47 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23650 @ 0.00076983 = 18.2065 BTC [-] {2} |
| 17:47 |
X-Rob |
Yeah, twice. I used to work in InfoSec at Cisco.au |
| 17:47 |
thestringpuller |
;;google law and order |
| 17:47 |
gribble |
Law & Order | NBC: <http://www.nbc.com/law-order>; Law & Order - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_%26_Order>; Law & Order (TV Series 1990–2010) - IMDb: <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098844/> |
| 17:47 |
thestringpuller |
lol |
| 17:47 |
mircea_popescu |
cool beanz. |
| 17:58 |
BingoBoingo |
;;rated X-Rob |
| 17:58 |
gribble |
You have not yet rated user X-Rob |
| 17:58 |
BingoBoingo |
;;rate X-Rob 2 Mines, testifies |
| 17:58 |
gribble |
Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user X-Rob has been recorded. |
| 17:59 |
mircea_popescu |
There was a young girl of Natchez who chanced to be born with two snatches.Now and again she'd say "Shit! I'd so give either tit for a man with equipment that matches." |
| 18:00 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2876 @ 0.00077294 = 2.223 BTC [+] |
| 18:08 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6314 @ 0.00077359 = 4.8844 BTC [+] |
| 18:14 |
X-Rob |
BingoBoingo: Thanks, but I'm actually 'xrobau' on gribble 8-) |
| 18:14 |
X-Rob |
;;ident |
| 18:14 |
gribble |
Nick 'X-Rob', with hostmask 'X-Rob!sid14615@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sithgwmwidmkkdgh', is not identified. |
| 18:14 |
X-Rob |
oh, wups. |
| 18:14 |
thestringpuller |
:P |
| 18:15 |
X-Rob |
;;ident |
| 18:15 |
gribble |
CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'X-Rob', with hostmask 'X-Rob!sid14615@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sithgwmwidmkkdgh', is identified as user 'xrobau', with GPG key id None, key fingerprint None, and bitcoin address 1F1pPNy6X86rUSKLqZAdsa7dSMoRy4KobG |
| 18:15 |
X-Rob |
yay |
| 18:27 |
BingoBoingo |
;;unrate X-Rob |
| 18:27 |
gribble |
Successfully removed your rating for X-Rob. |
| 18:28 |
BingoBoingo |
;;rated xrobau |
| 18:28 |
gribble |
You rated user xrobau on Sun Aug 17 20:38:19 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: Going to point his hash, issues corrections. |
| 18:28 |
BingoBoingo |
Eh |
| 18:30 |
X-Rob |
My hash is pointy |
| 18:31 |
BingoBoingo |
What hash isn't |
| 18:33 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
the plot thickens: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/bitcoin-open-source?commentId=2003008%3AComment%3A55276&xg_source=msg_com_forum |
| 18:33 |
assbot |
Bitcoin open source implementation of P2P currency - P2P Foundation |
| 18:33 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
bottom of page |
| 18:35 |
mircea_popescu |
herp. |
| 18:35 |
mircea_popescu |
who the fuck are these people. |
| 18:35 |
mircea_popescu |
"Thank you for this clarification Mr. Nakamoto. It has been an honor to be labeled by my friends as "Satoshi's Drunk Uncle" and it's a moniker I'll wear proudly until the day I retire from Crypto. The Goldcoin (GLD) developers truly admire your work and strive to continue improving upon its design as a tribute to your unparallelled genius. Your admirer and relative in spirit, MicroGuy." |
| |
↖ ↖ ↖ |
| 18:35 |
mircea_popescu |
really ? |
| 18:36 |
mircea_popescu |
With so many interested persons checking in here, I believe this would be a good time to again share Chris Cook's brief, simple and correct summation of the problem with bitcoin, from http://blablabla |
| 18:36 |
mircea_popescu |
sigh. |
| 18:38 |
mircea_popescu |
"we've got nothing but our desire to matter in spite of the void we stand for. and there's A LOT of us." |
| 18:38 |
mircea_popescu |
the internet is practically fucking gehenna. |
| 18:38 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
well, I was derpish enough to solicit him for recruitment. so I'm not much better than those creeps. I did get some very interesting encrypted respnses tho |
| 18:40 |
mircea_popescu |
are you the guy with "three weeks" ? |
| 18:41 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1878 @ 0.00077359 = 1.4528 BTC [+] |
| 18:41 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
the only recruiter there. posted back in march |
| 18:42 |
mircea_popescu |
have dev spend a week checking out and streamlining trilema code, obtain clear results, various bottlenecks resolved, lots of optimisation that should result in about 30-40% less load. |
| 18:42 |
mircea_popescu |
watch the load on the server excitedly as it increase slightly over a week or two as a result. |
| 18:42 |
mircea_popescu |
because why the fuck not. |
| 18:42 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
ok |
| 18:43 |
mircea_popescu |
RagnarDanneskjol i was talking about myself :p |
| 18:43 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
ok |
| 18:46 |
mircea_popescu |
;;bc,stats |
| 18:46 |
gribble |
Current Blocks: 319757 | Current Difficulty: 2.7428630902257874E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 320543 | Next Difficulty In: 786 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 4 hours, 6 minutes, and 18 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 29374054561.2 | Estimated Percent Change: 7.09268 |
| 18:52 |
BingoBoingo |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXS8ljif9b8 |
| 18:52 |
assbot |
Theo de Raadt (ruBSD 2013) - YouTube |
| 19:02 |
BingoBoingo |
Since Arizona is flooding http://www.azleg.state.az.us/FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/ars/28/00910.htm&Title=28&DocType=ARS/ |
| 19:02 |
assbot |
Format Document |
| 19:06 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=775174.0 |
| 19:06 |
assbot |
satoshin@gmx.com is compromised |
| 19:09 |
BingoBoingo |
And this is why the "killer app" for GPG is signatures |
| 19:15 |
cazalla |
http://sourceforge.net/projects/bitcoin/ heh buttcoin |
| 19:15 |
assbot |
Bitcoin | SourceForge.net |
| 19:17 |
Azelphur |
hehe |
| 19:22 |
BingoBoingo |
I'll take it this implies Hal prolly was Satoshi after all. |
| 19:25 |
BingoBoingo |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGOPj53r1Fc |
| 19:25 |
assbot |
Henning Brauer (ruBSD 2013) - YouTube |
| 19:27 |
X-Rob |
;;genrate 1000000 |
| 19:27 |
gribble |
The expected generation output, at 1000000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 27428630902.3, is 0.0183350936553 BTC per day and 0.000763962235639 BTC per hour. |
| 19:27 |
X-Rob |
;;genrate 1000 |
| 19:27 |
gribble |
The expected generation output, at 1000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 27428630902.3, is 1.83350936553e-05 BTC per day and 7.63962235639e-07 BTC per hour. |
| 19:27 |
X-Rob |
even |
| 19:27 |
X-Rob |
bah, |
| 19:27 |
X-Rob |
;;genrate 10000 |
| 19:27 |
gribble |
The expected generation output, at 10000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 27428630902.3, is 0.000183350936553 BTC per day and 7.63962235639e-06 BTC per hour. |
| 19:27 |
X-Rob |
ok, so, 18. |
| 19:29 |
BingoBoingo |
;;tickler |
| 19:29 |
gribble |
Error: "tickler" is not a valid command. |
| 19:30 |
BingoBoingo |
Why no tickler? |
| 19:32 |
BingoBoingo |
!tickle fluffypony |
| 19:33 |
mod6 |
<+mircea_popescu> so #eulora just succeeded in an infrastructure upgrade, taking crystal space from 38 something to 40 something. this is a major tech victory. << nice!! |
| 19:42 |
penguirker |
New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/spondoolies-tech-sp-20-jackson-mining-home-returns/ |
| 19:46 |
BingoBoingo |
;;later tell jborkl No words outside of the metalanguage can accurately describe how much I want to de-shit your blog's look |
| 19:46 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 19:47 |
BingoBoingo |
Also the satoshi email compromise in a wild speculative hypothesis hopefully is the death knell for any last gasps of third party authority on the matter of identity |
| 19:56 |
BingoBoingo |
http://sourceforge.net/p/bitcoin/mailman/bitcoin-security/ |
| 19:56 |
assbot |
Bitcoin / Mailing Lists |
| 19:56 |
BingoBoingo |
Oh, Satoshi hack day seems like such a splendid day |
| 20:04 |
BingoBoingo |
'This satoshi email hack simple means the Autum drama season has begun. |
| 20:08 |
kakobrekla |
Bitcoin is being illegalized by the Federal Reserve 2014. The DEA recently proposed a bill to Congress calling for its suspension and immediate criminalization due to the propagation of drug use. If you would like to depart with your Bitcoins legally and properly, please send this 0.01 Minimum we analyse them your balance in this moment to the following system Bitcoin address: BTC: 1sYSTEMQCbXykxa26a5h927WTZgvY7nzy we send your coins balan |
| 20:08 |
kakobrekla |
for you after 5 hours we guarantee It is recommended that this course of action be taken immediately. Thank you. Jack Lew Secretary of the Treasury Bitcoin address: Special System BTC: 1sYSTEMQCbXykxa26a5h927WTZgvY7nzy |
| 20:08 |
kakobrekla |
fyi. |
| 20:08 |
asciilifeform |
lol! |
| 20:10 |
justusranvier |
Why is gmaxwell so interested in making bitcoin-security private again? What's in those 240 emails they don't want anyone to seel? |
| 20:11 |
BingoBoingo |
Excellent question justusranvier |
| 20:11 |
BingoBoingo |
Better US treasury exit address: 1LvCuntsJyFFQsLuJhBXBPokbQa7SAyMr4 |
| 20:20 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16950 @ 0.00077468 = 13.1308 BTC [+] {3} |
| 20:26 |
* |
asciilifeform doesn't grasp why the supposed satoshi thing is exciting |
| 20:26 |
asciilifeform |
no evidence that, e.g., loch ness monster. |
| 20:29 |
kakobrekla |
same reason yellow press is still around. |
| 20:33 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Because if 500 wanna be satoshi trolls control satoshi email, but not keys. Myth-Man becomes Myth |
| 20:34 |
thestringpuller |
lol scammers be scammin |
| 20:37 |
justusranvier |
Maybe the reason they are unhappy about bitcoin-security being public is because it reveals there's an unfixed memory leak in bitcoind right now. |
| 20:39 |
asciilifeform |
reason... unfixed << or this - http://pastebin.com/CZ61FQY4 |
| 20:39 |
assbot |
pieceofshit - Pastebin.com |
| 20:40 |
asciilifeform |
!s msghand |
| 20:40 |
assbot |
1 results for 'msghand' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=msghand |
| 20:40 |
BingoBoingo |
%t |
| 20:40 |
atcbot |
[X-BT] Bid: 205 Ask: 221 Last Price: 221 24h-Vol: 0k High: 221 Low: 221 VWAP: 221 |
| 20:40 |
BingoBoingo |
You'd think this news would get people diversifying into Altcoin |
| 20:43 |
asciilifeform |
of all the things that have been written about 'satoshi' - not one is simultaneously interesting and provable. |
| 20:43 |
BingoBoingo |
Indeed |
| 20:47 |
artifexd |
!s satoshi compromised |
| 20:47 |
assbot |
2 results for 'satoshi compromised' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=satoshi+compromised |
| 20:58 |
mircea_popescu |
<justusranvier> Maybe the reason they are unhappy about bitcoin-security being public is because it reveals there's an unfixed memory leak in bitcoind right now. << this needed like revealing and anything |
| 20:58 |
mircea_popescu |
why, because literally nobody runs the code anymore or what |
| 20:58 |
BingoBoingo |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WgOWrT1yyI |
| 20:58 |
assbot |
Mum Tries Out TempleOS 1.06 (2013) - YouTube |
| 21:00 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22307 @ 0.00077334 = 17.2509 BTC [-] {2} |
| 21:02 |
justusranvier |
I still run bitcoind because it's the only way to make Armory work. |
| 21:03 |
justusranvier |
I keep it heavily sandboxed into a virtual machine though |
| 21:04 |
X-Rob |
mircea_popescu: btw, thank you. |
| 21:04 |
* |
mircea_popescu tips hat |
| 21:05 |
mircea_popescu |
dude look at a google page if you search bitcoin mining |
| 21:06 |
mircea_popescu |
hashop.io bitcoinaffiliatenetwork.com megamine.com groupbitcoin.com usbminers.nl best-miner.com ehsminer.com mining-asics-technologies.com |
| 21:06 |
BingoBoingo |
Electrum seems to do most of the Armory stuff without the part where it is such obvious shit. |
| 21:06 |
mircea_popescu |
all these schmucks have fiat to spend on outbidding each other on google ? and lemme guess, they're all first best largest ? |
| 21:07 |
justusranvier |
BingoBoingo: Electrum's GUI for offline transaction signing sucks, and by default it uses other people's Electrum servers which means you have no privacy. |
| 21:08 |
BingoBoingo |
justusranvier: But a private electrum server is so easy, and less disk space than Armory |
| 21:08 |
mircea_popescu |
mostly "hosted bitcoin mining", ie, buy a dumb bitcoin short. |
| 21:08 |
BingoBoingo |
justusranvier: Also Electrum has such powerful console |
| 21:09 |
BingoBoingo |
https://twitter.com/petertoddbtc/status/509145414008725504 |
| 21:09 |
assbot |
Interesting, got another forwarded email from "satoshi", from 2011 - indicates this was a hijacked account, not expired and re-registered. |
| 21:09 |
justusranvier |
BingoBoingo: Don't care about disk space. I'll switch cold storage clients once btcgui (from btcd) is out of alpha |
| 21:09 |
mircea_popescu |
look at that, #bitaffnet |
| 21:12 |
BingoBoingo |
justusranvier: Disk space in many cases is a stupid worry, but... Who knows how it will be in 5 years |
| 21:12 |
justusranvier |
I won't be using bitcoind/Armory in 5 years |
| 21:13 |
BingoBoingo |
Eh, in 5 years I might be wetware |
| 21:13 |
mircea_popescu |
i've been using the same wordpress for trilema for 6 years now. |
| 21:14 |
mircea_popescu |
i have boxes still running the same shit a decade later. |
| 21:14 |
mircea_popescu |
software that's worth changing ain't worth running in the first place. |
| 21:15 |
BingoBoingo |
I'm still looking for the right old WordPress version to chop on |
| 21:15 |
mircea_popescu |
2.something, prolly. |
| 21:16 |
BingoBoingo |
Yeah, I'm narrowing down to 1.8.x to 3.0.x |
| 21:17 |
mircea_popescu |
http://dpaste.com/206JR1H << check out this wonder, kid wants to mine, his miner is software. |
| 21:17 |
assbot |
dpaste: 206JR1H |
| 21:18 |
mircea_popescu |
you're gonna troll them now aren't you. |
| 21:19 |
BingoBoingo |
Mebbe |
| 21:20 |
mircea_popescu |
kay well, enough excitement for one day. laters. |
| 21:24 |
TheNewDeal |
;;nethash |
| 21:24 |
gribble |
215156605.763 |
| 21:25 |
BingoBoingo |
%d |
| 21:25 |
atcbot |
[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 276685.59 in 1334 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -85.27 |
| 21:29 |
BingoBoingo |
!up strtp`fndr |
| 21:29 |
strtp`fndr |
thanks, BingoBoingo (nothing to say). |
| 21:41 |
BingoBoingo |
Problems of using Plaster and spittle as structural materials http://deadspin.com/ray-lewis-theres-no-comparison-between-me-and-ray-ric-1632161715 << because remember, Ray Lewis Kills |
| 21:41 |
assbot |
Ray Lewis: "There's No Comparison Between Me And Ray Rice" |
| 21:42 |
penguirker |
New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/will-take-home-1btcxe-trading-challenge-prize/ |
| |
~ 25 minutes ~ |
| 22:08 |
TheNewDeal |
has any numbnut admitted fault to the btc/eur fiasco on btce last night? |
| |
~ 30 minutes ~ |
| 22:39 |
thestringpuller |
;;ticker |
| 22:45 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 462.77, Best ask: 464.27, Bid-ask spread: 1.50000, Last trade: 464.28, 24 hour volume: 13262.21280878, 24 hour low: 456.3, 24 hour high: 478.39, 24 hour vwap: 468.219193838 |
| 22:52 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.18397142 = 1.2878 BTC [+] {3} |
| 22:52 |
TheNewDeal |
!up ausbitbank |
| 22:52 |
TheNewDeal |
lets see how this goes |
| 22:53 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.1882997 = 0.5649 BTC [+] {3} |
| 22:54 |
Duffer1 |
ni hao |
| 22:55 |
asciilifeform |
ling-ch'ih. |
| 23:09 |
kakobrekla |
to prospective advertisers/spammers, one can no longer buy van ad on bitbet. we are back to classic rotator. |
| 23:09 |
BingoBoingo |
Ah |
| 23:10 |
kakobrekla |
talk to ben for refunds :) |
| 23:10 |
BingoBoingo |
!up maclane |
| 23:11 |
BingoBoingo |
:( |
| 23:11 |
kakobrekla |
hey, nothing i can do. |
| 23:11 |
TheNewDeal |
lol what? |
| 23:11 |
TheNewDeal |
how can you claim that you can do nothing? |
| 23:11 |
TheNewDeal |
don't you own the site? |
| 23:11 |
BingoBoingo |
What did the fox quit? |
| 23:12 |
BingoBoingo |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jofNR_WkoCE |
| 23:12 |
assbot |
Ylvis - The Fox (What Does The Fox Say?) [Official music video HD] - YouTube |
| 23:14 |
kakobrekla |
BingoBoingo thats the word. |
| 23:15 |
maclane |
hey BingoBoingo! Good to be here |
| 23:15 |
BingoBoingo |
Hello maclane, how are the Nakatomi TOwers? |
| 23:15 |
BingoBoingo |
kakobrekla: Indeed. I'v always heard the song as what the fuck's sake. |
| 23:16 |
TheNewDeal |
kako, how long does it take your mods to review a bet? |
| 23:16 |
maclane |
hard, very hard. ppl died |
| 23:16 |
BingoBoingo |
Damn maclane |
| 23:17 |
kakobrekla |
TheNewDeal see backlog and estimate |
| 23:17 |
TheNewDeal |
whereabouts? |
| 23:17 |
kakobrekla |
http://bitbet.us/propositions/ |
| 23:17 |
assbot |
BitBet Propositions |
| 23:17 |
TheNewDeal |
well I knew that |
| 23:17 |
TheNewDeal |
where's the estimate? |
| 23:18 |
kakobrekla |
make one? |
| 23:18 |
TheNewDeal |
gotcha |
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| 23:37 |
BingoBoingo |
!up Luke-Jr |
| 23:47 |
BingoBoingo |
!up jespern |
| 23:47 |
BingoBoingo |
Hello jespern |
| 23:48 |
TheNewDeal |
do you know these folks? or just in an uppity mood? |
| 23:49 |
BingoBoingo |
Uppity mood |
| 23:49 |
BingoBoingo |
Job interview Wednesday |
| 23:50 |
BingoBoingo |
So flexing the lordship nao |
| 23:50 |
jespern |
hi BingoBoingo |
| 23:50 |
BingoBoingo |
Hello jespern |
| 23:50 |
BingoBoingo |
Whachu sellin? |
| 23:50 |
jespern |
not selling. |
| 23:50 |
BingoBoingo |
Ah, lurkin? |
| 23:50 |
jespern |
something like that. :) |
| 23:52 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3927 @ 0.0007729 = 3.0352 BTC [-] {2} |
| 23:52 |
BingoBoingo |
;;ticker --market all |
| 23:52 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 467.37, vol: 13199.57056086 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 467.6, vol: 4753.48444 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 466.5, vol: 13596.18081924 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 470.41637, vol: 16642.41990000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 488.76711, vol: 41.13743715 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 482.8125, vol: 62.18825337 | Volume-weighted last average: 468.235600441 |
| 23:56 |
TheNewDeal |
!up mthreat |