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00:27 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/2CDAFA01E2E11B8BF049CA4B4C4B68B1FFF22C63AB036EC760BEF401C81DDB89 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1480...9347 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '194.50.254.109 (ssh-rsa key from 194.50.254.109 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown UA)
00:27 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/2CDAFA01E2E11B8BF049CA4B4C4B68B1FFF22C63AB036EC760BEF401C81DDB89 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1688...4909 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '194.50.254.109 (ssh-rsa key from 194.50.254.109 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown UA)
00:36 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/B66E57722558E2F0ED64F2AB2BDE34E493A3C309FE2CD38C1CF595C88BDA33AB << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1601...4317 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '69.70.43.158 (ssh-rsa key from 69.70.43.158 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (modemcable158.43-70-69.static.videotron.ca. CA QC)
00:36 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/B66E57722558E2F0ED64F2AB2BDE34E493A3C309FE2CD38C1CF595C88BDA33AB << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1609...5423 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '69.70.43.158 (ssh-rsa key from 69.70.43.158 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (modemcable158.43-70-69.static.videotron.ca. CA QC)
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01:11 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/AC17420673A4A209ADF729718C338E26CF3E0E4E4434B0563687CF8BE80F2591 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1660...6923 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '109.231.44.233 (ssh-rsa key from 109.231.44.233 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (109.231.44.233.koba.pl. PL)
01:11 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/AC17420673A4A209ADF729718C338E26CF3E0E4E4434B0563687CF8BE80F2591 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1775...0299 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '109.231.44.233 (ssh-rsa key from 109.231.44.233 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (109.231.44.233.koba.pl. PL)
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01:47 ben_vulpes make california great again: http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/article132358789.html
01:48 ben_vulpes pretty serious risk of losing the emergency spillway apparently
01:51 ben_vulpes dams are my favorite human folly
02:04 mircea_popescu also cheapest power there is.
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02:19 ben_vulpes that's what makes it so tempting!
02:20 ben_vulpes stand back everyone i'm just going to deform the crust to perform a bit of geoatmospheric arbitrage
02:24 mircea_popescu works where it works. not hydro power's fault all sorts of idiots wanna "make do with what they got"
02:26 mircea_popescu the great "march of progress" narrative is fed off discrete bits. for instance -- the nile created a flood plain. for tens of thousands of years. not anymore.
02:28 mircea_popescu every dick and jane's expectation that "we did it reddit" is the faint echo of, man walked on the moon and generally speaking drove a wedge forcing a reevaluation of the celestial peerage. "as eternal as the nile flood" is no longer equal to "as eternal as the tide".
02:29 mircea_popescu tide -- not dammed yet.
02:35 ben_vulpes progress!
02:41 mircea_popescu quite
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06:39 Reuel mircea_popescu your site seems to be down?
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08:05 mircea_popescu Reuel nah it's there. i suppose we've moved on to the 2017 testing of the infrastructure.
08:06 mircea_popescu consider that this is done on the very last limb of a huge apparatus of idle losers, maintained at very great expense by a tooth and claw fight to prevent trump appointments! the spy ustate rebells! etcetera!
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08:09 Reuel I like how you immediately take the mountaintop view there lol
08:09 Reuel But it is some kind ddos then?
08:09 mircea_popescu well, trilema has been online for a long time, eventually you get over the immediacy of it all.
08:10 mircea_popescu pretty much every year some bright young derp comes up with this.
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08:50 mircea_popescu Reuel meanwhile confirmed, bout 20gpbs classic syn flood ; gear will be up and running in ~hour, come back then.
08:53 Reuel Cool, will do
08:55 shinohai !~weather
08:55 jhvh1 stormy with a chance of packeting
08:55 shinohai still not chnaged
08:56 mircea_popescu lel
08:57 mircea_popescu props to Reuel though, i think he noticed the same second it happened or some shit.
08:57 Reuel Pure coincidence
08:59 Reuel I was looking for an article but forgot the name, in it you were talking about Eulora and most games being spreadsheets for people used to work spreadsheets or something like that
08:59 mircea_popescu ah yeah. sparked by eve lel
08:59 mircea_popescu and in other hippy dippy weatherman, it's raining here with a purely tropical intensity. the city's going to be flooded again.
09:00 mircea_popescu these idiots, they get entirely disrupted by admittedly heavy rains twice a year, they flail about helplessly on tv about it THAT DAY and that's that, that's it, go right back to their regularly scheduled dickholding and netflix.
09:09 diana_coman they get...disrupted? from what? by the sound of it, they just get one day of tv out of it; only twice a year, too, how unfair
09:10 mircea_popescu diana_coman can't get from point a to point b, what it usually means.
09:10 mircea_popescu admittedly, hard to actually disrupt 1-neuron hydra.
09:11 diana_coman but that supposes one actually has some businesses going from a to b, some aim as in going exactly to b etc
09:12 mircea_popescu well, perversely, it either presupposes THAT or else as the more commonly the case in socialist states (really argentina is what the us was aspiring to be with ronald mcclinton) that they have 0 business to do anyway. in which case not being able to do particular subset x of the pile of things you weren't going to do anyway somehow stands out.
09:12 mircea_popescu it's only the people in the middle who have alternative, as it were.
09:12 mircea_popescu if you do something now and again, flood can be welcome respite. if you do things all the time OR NEVER, floods are threatening, existentially.
09:17 diana_coman hm, in total stillness any change is potentially threatening on an existential level, I can see that, yes
09:18 diana_coman ftr each and every time I witnessed this sort of flailing it meant without exception that NOTHING was going to be done about it - people needed to let go of steam/put on a show/whatever but basically to avoid doing something about it
09:18 mircea_popescu ayep.
09:18 trinque isn't there some bureau for this? call the ministry of inconvenient weather. it's not like we're some poor country without one.
09:19 * trinque recalls the epic video of portlanders sliding down an icy hill one by one
09:24 mircea_popescu right-o.
09:25 mircea_popescu !~later tell peterl since you're both in the field and unlazy, here's a thought - i would like to see a quantitative history of life in terms of biopumps. i dunno that this was ever done, and it's a crying shame.
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09:25 jhvh1 mircea_popescu: The operation succeeded.
09:26 mircea_popescu what i mean specifically is that if we turned all biomass to ash today, life wouldn't be able to just start right back up with people in the way computers would. if i break all the computers nobody's making the pentium 1 all over again.
09:27 mircea_popescu but if i physically extinguish life, it will have to go through its whole ontogenesis, not strictly because of gnosis problem (ie, WHO is doing the jumps ? life's extinguished, there's n oreserve medium) but because of a purely physical problem.
09:27 mircea_popescu to have mammals, you need the citric pump. this may not exist, physically, until enough precursors have been built up. they can only be built up by specific metabolic processes.
09:28 mircea_popescu which is why that ancient trilema article about my encounter with the aliens and the discussions re the nth roman empire and the perennial nature of the english language as well as more recently http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-10#1612893 and the coal in soil discussion.
09:28 a111 Logged on 2017-02-10 06:04 mircea_popescu: (guru meditation : whence does a tree's mass come from ?)
09:29 mircea_popescu turns out that yes, there IS an endothermic reaction available for coal, but nevertheless that notwithstanding, there IS NO microorganism that takes soil coal and turns it into c02 and its own livelihood.
09:29 mircea_popescu coal must be taken in the form of live tree, or live leaf, or recently dead tree, or leaf, or bug, or somesuch. not as charcoal.
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09:30 mircea_popescu now some of these pumps i know, but some, especially at the very early bacteria/algae/protist early history we probably do not know.
09:31 mircea_popescu so therefore, a history of life in terms of "first, you gotta get natrium pump going, as seen in thiomargarita. then, when enough X is piled up, (no less than q) you can start xantophyl pump. when enough etc etc"
09:31 mircea_popescu does this make any sesne ?
09:35 shinohai someone has to keep the fires of auschwitz burning
09:35 mircea_popescu heh
09:36 mircea_popescu shinohai the auschwitz reference is oddly on point, because it was the first large scale encounter with a problem very much in this vein : if body goes long enough without sufficient intake, it eventually digests the proteins thatmake up the intake manifold for its protein digestion cycle, resulting in a situation where the body is alive but not for long, even if you feed it it can't digest anymore.
09:38 mircea_popescu anyway, the advantage of the above approach, at least from a "teach smart kids biology, physics and systems design" pov, is that it scales extremely well. discussion can be made as short or as infinitely complex as the bright young mind has patience for.
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10:22 BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: The truly amazing part is that Los Angeles is just going to drink that puddle dry again
10:30 * BingoBoingo enjoys reports saying "dam is fine, undamaged" While substantial parts of the dam (i.e. spillways) are damaged.
10:31 trinque danielpbarron: http://danielpbarron.com/2017/fuckgoats-for-sale/ << I was perhaps interested, but your old blog posts are all gone ?
10:36 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo the part that matters is undamaged! celestial empire in the sky, untouched by the corruption of matter!
10:46 trinque http://archive.is/T36Uj << nevermind, looks like they're more expensive from dpb
10:54 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Until the water does it's thing, topping and crushing dam with the weight of... mebbe 3 or 4 celestial hamplanets
10:59 BingoBoingo Anyway, what's the problem. California was dry, now has water. Problem solved!
11:01 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-13#1613468 << if mr.t on the throne for 8 yrs and at the end of the 7th same exact thing still happens -- still work of 'hangers on' ?
11:01 a111 Logged on 2017-02-13 13:06 mircea_popescu: consider that this is done on the very last limb of a huge apparatus of idle losers, maintained at very great expense by a tooth and claw fight to prevent trump appointments! the spy ustate rebells! etcetera!
11:02 asciilifeform now i dun have an intel agency, or even dirigible, but i did read mr.t's campaign brochure and 'surrender to bitcoin' wasn't in there.
11:05 BingoBoingo But loudly do nothing at all was!
11:06 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: 'loudly doing nothing at all' is a privilege of the brass. to grunts it remains to 'loudly feign activity'
11:08 asciilifeform meanwhile, in monkeystan, https://archive.is/372OG >> 'Francis Rawls, a former Philadelphia police sergeant, has been in the Philadelphia Federal Detention Center for more than 16 months. His crime: the fired police officer has been found in contempt of court for refusing a judge's order to unlock two hard drives the authorities believe contain child pornography. Theoretically, Rawls can remain jailed indefinitely until he complies.'
11:08 asciilifeform ^ iirc there are at least half a dozen of these nao, and these are just the ~known~ cases
11:09 ben_vulpes http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-13#1613506 << in none of the experimentation and blather through which i dug did anyone posit 'coal' as a carbon source. my limited understanding is that its role is threefold: surface area for bacterial colonization; surface area to ameliorate fertilizer runoff and leaching into the ground; and to improve porosity.
11:09 a111 Logged on 2017-02-13 14:29 mircea_popescu: coal must be taken in the form of live tree, or live leaf, or recently dead tree, or leaf, or bug, or somesuch. not as charcoal.
11:10 asciilifeform in quite other noose, https://archive.is/l7LmL >> e. voorhees apparently had been a loud, unabashed gavinist for ages
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11:14 mod6 mornin'
11:14 asciilifeform hey mod6
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11:33 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/9AC7FA97D5B4F4D807DDC44904CF658CA415EC45E2E0D092A08B071540704CB1 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1380...5359 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '166.111.26.2 (ssh-rsa key from 166.111.26.2 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (sparc.phys.tsinghua.edu.cn. CN)
11:33 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/9AC7FA97D5B4F4D807DDC44904CF658CA415EC45E2E0D092A08B071540704CB1 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1501...2429 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '166.111.26.2 (ssh-rsa key from 166.111.26.2 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (sparc.phys.tsinghua.edu.cn. CN)
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11:36 asciilifeform in other possible BingoBoingo/qntra fodder, https://archive.is/jMxrw >> 'TRENTON, N.J. (AP) — A state trooper was justified when he shot a 76-year-old man last summer inside a home mistakenly linked to a 911 call, an investigation by New Jersey's attorney general has concluded.'
11:45 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-13#1613534 >> 'We are a group of condensed matter theory. Our specific study targets are materials which possess novel quantum properties such as topological insulators, low dimension materials with strong quantum confinement, and new materials with excellent quantum transport properties. We focus on material electronic and phonon properties and their optical, electromagnetic, thermal responses. Our res
11:45 a111 Logged on 2017-02-13 16:33 deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/9AC7FA97D5B4F4D807DDC44904CF658CA415EC45E2E0D092A08B071540704CB1 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1501...2429 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '166.111.26.2 (ssh-rsa key from 166.111.26.2 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (sparc.phys.tsinghua.edu.cn. CN)
11:45 asciilifeform earch has a close relationship with industrial applications in its guidance on designing electronic devices.'
11:45 asciilifeform didjaknow.
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12:46 mircea_popescu asciilifeform well obviously not.
12:47 mircea_popescu 7th year of nigger != 8th year of nigger. same as with prikoke, the lifespan of domestic animals is a very peculiar nonliniarity.
12:47 mircea_popescu each day ~member of the family until the day it's member of the family meal.
12:48 asciilifeform well, member of latrine basement contingent until member of meal
12:48 mircea_popescu hey, a family by definition has different ranking members.
12:51 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes the pseudoscientific gunk you reviewed does not form part of this discussion though, they're as irrelevant to anything to do with people as the chirping of the birds.
12:51 mircea_popescu what, i'm going to engage it as if it were for reals, now ? they "posited" whatever random bullshit, might as well be on wikireddit for all the difference it can make irl.
12:53 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-13#1613530 << the experience with the sec formed him, i guess.
12:53 a111 Logged on 2017-02-13 16:10 asciilifeform: in quite other noose, https://archive.is/l7LmL >> e. voorhees apparently had been a loud, unabashed gavinist for ages
12:54 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-13#1613539 << hey, cvasitheoretical physicists will always exist. and they'll always say ~the same things.
12:54 a111 Logged on 2017-02-13 16:45 asciilifeform: didjaknow.
12:54 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: and, apparently, run botched debian.
12:54 mircea_popescu doh.
12:55 mircea_popescu and in today's wtf, home directory size 3022328952, full backup package 12619700949.
12:55 mircea_popescu guess what fails silently on "unexpected!!1" "too large!!" and your first choice is backup scripts.
12:56 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/4E308FEA20D21A62A5165DB316B50DBD6BD755919F6AB0B6A45C0D6BD90F6FAF << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1689...2349 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '192.162.98.175 (ssh-rsa key from 192.162.98.175 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (175.98.bartanet.cz. CZ KR 525)
12:56 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/4E308FEA20D21A62A5165DB316B50DBD6BD755919F6AB0B6A45C0D6BD90F6FAF << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1791...2169 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '192.162.98.175 (ssh-rsa key from 192.162.98.175 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (175.98.bartanet.cz. CZ KR 525)
12:58 mircea_popescu apparently i'm the first lightbulb to have come up with the theory that IF (and this is a very doubtful if in the first place) your backup process should fail according to the size backed up, then it is logical for it to faill for it being TOO SMALL, not for it being too big.
13:01 asciilifeform 'unix philosophy'!! includes 'it will break and you won't know why until the smell of cooked flesh'
13:01 mircea_popescu pretty much exactly.
13:02 asciilifeform at one time i wrote a proggy that generated a few million files every time it ran, for perfectly legitimate reason. it ended up breaking every script i've been habitually using for years, in exactly mircea_popescu's way
13:03 mircea_popescu this sort of thjing happens to me about every other project.
13:03 mircea_popescu "oh, things work" "do x" "uh...."
13:03 mircea_popescu now, SOMETIMES, it's like in the case of the lisp ai, where i was lazy and didn't actually provision properly.
13:03 mircea_popescu but this is relatively rare. generally, it happens because... uh...
13:03 mircea_popescu "we never thought of using a plane like a rocket"
13:03 mircea_popescu bitch. what the fuck DID you think of using it as, a dildo ?
13:04 asciilifeform 'didn't somebody tell you which three chairs are sittable on, from the 500 ?' etc
13:05 mircea_popescu myeah
13:18 asciilifeform in other lulz, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2KZaD7hFSM << 2 ru d00dz call u.s. congressmonkey, role play ukr, and convince her of 'war of the worlds'-style lulz
13:19 mircea_popescu heh
13:20 mircea_popescu fortunately it doesn't count.
13:31 mircea_popescu !!up pete_dushenski
13:31 deedbot pete_dushenski voiced for 30 minutes.
13:31 mircea_popescu !!up PeterL
13:31 deedbot PeterL voiced for 30 minutes.
13:31 PeterL ty
13:32 PeterL http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-13#1613498 << interesting line of thought,
13:32 a111 Logged on 2017-02-13 14:25 mircea_popescu: !~later tell peterl since you're both in the field and unlazy, here's a thought - i would like to see a quantitative history of life in terms of biopumps. i dunno that this was ever done, and it's a crying shame.
13:32 mircea_popescu aha!
13:33 PeterL when I google for "biopump", I just get a bunch of pictures of sexy womens' shoes
13:33 PeterL but I get the gist of what you are saying
13:33 mircea_popescu heh. but you understand what i mean yes ? biological processes are chiefly defined through turning one class of substance into a narrower other class
13:33 mircea_popescu it's what "forensics" and "pathology" and everything relies on, pumpage differentials.
13:33 mircea_popescu prolly high time all this patchwork was systematized.
13:34 PeterL The early earth astmosphere has been speculated to have been non-oxygen, before we could have aerobic metabolism first we needed a bunch of anaerobes shitting out oxygen, E.G.
13:34 mircea_popescu hence why my example started with thio*
13:34 mircea_popescu early respiration was doubtless N
13:35 PeterL more biochemistry than what I usually think about, but still interesting.
13:35 mircea_popescu or me, for that matter.
13:38 PeterL I'll put it on the list of stuff to think about.
13:38 PeterL Gotta run, will be reading the log.
13:39 mircea_popescu asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2014-12-10#949583 << did we ever find this ?
13:39 a111 Logged on 2014-12-10 00:51 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu had an article (or perhaps a thread here? but can't seem to find it...) about an archetypical u.s. expat. fellow keeps a pub somewhere in thailand, or cambodia, etc. the locals - drink for free. he fancies that if he begins to run out of dough, he can always start charging. but somehow in the back of his head he knows what will happen to his sorry arse if he were to do so.
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14:13 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: not afaik. and not from lack of try
14:13 asciilifeform (i end up digging for it every month or so)
14:20 deedbot http://trilema.com/2017/little-miss-sunshine/ << Trilema - Little Miss Sunshine
14:28 mircea_popescu darn.
14:29 mircea_popescu was like late 2013 - early 2014 too
14:37 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2015-01-09#970930 in other old lulz.
14:37 a111 Logged on 2015-01-09 07:49 mircea_popescu: "That's quite publicity for MP for a mere 5 BTC (he owns half bitbet), maybe less. (It's obvious that bitcoin will go up faster, so not many will bet no)"
14:37 * mircea_popescu is trying to dredge it up
14:40 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo http://btcbase.org/log/2013-03-28#-49508 if you need for qntra :D
14:40 a111 Logged on 2013-03-28 13:15 mircea_popescu: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/03/28/hundreds-of-armed-vigilantes-seize-mexican-town-arrest-local-police/
14:40 mircea_popescu could be played straight, title, description of the event, last line is "by the way this happened in 2013."
14:55 mircea_popescu o shit it gets better.
14:55 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2014-09-08#822992
14:55 a111 Logged on 2014-09-08 22:35 mircea_popescu: "Thank you for this clarification Mr. Nakamoto. It has been an honor to be labeled by my friends as "Satoshi's Drunk Uncle" and it's a moniker I'll wear proudly until the day I retire from Crypto. The Goldcoin (GLD) developers truly admire your work and strive to continue improving upon its design as a tribute to your unparallelled genius. Your admirer and relative in spirit, MicroGuy."
15:05 pete_dushenski http://btcbase.org/log/2014-02-19#515574
15:05 a111 Logged on 2014-02-19 06:21 mircea_popescu: an old american moves to a thai village.
15:06 pete_dushenski just searched 'thai'
15:06 asciilifeform pete_dushenski is a winner. asciilifeform must have spent 6+ hrs total to date digging, and never once found.
15:06 mircea_popescu no fucking way
15:06 mircea_popescu pete_dushenski well done eh!
15:07 pete_dushenski happy to help. took all of ten seconds
15:07 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i was here for the past half hour, ended up witha pile of other articles. for instance http://trilema.com/2010/a-fi-fraier/ whiuch i think ima atranslate comments and all.
15:08 mircea_popescu pete_dushenski first solid example of the tru power of crowd sourcing. except it's not exactly a crowd.
15:08 pete_dushenski 10 man crowd == small sports team
15:08 pete_dushenski teamsourcing has a ring to it actually
15:10 pete_dushenski in other teamwork, looks like j. trudeau didn't completely faceplant when meeting with agent orange today http://pm.gc.ca/eng/news/2017/02/13/joint-statement-president-donald-j-trump-and-prime-minister-justin-trudeau
15:10 mircea_popescu ahahaha is trump's secret agent codename "agent orange" ?
15:11 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: from your earlier rag : http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/02/13/rapper-busta-rhymes-slams-trump-as-president-agent-orange-during-fiery-grammys-performance/
15:11 pete_dushenski kinda lulzy
15:12 mircea_popescu pretty great.
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16:08 mircea_popescu !~later tell diana_coman http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/HN4Jw/?raw=true
16:08 jhvh1 mircea_popescu: The operation succeeded.
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17:14 ben_vulpes you guys
17:14 ben_vulpes ruby has an eigenclass
17:14 ben_vulpes what the FUCK
17:14 ben_vulpes "hi i have a rudimentary understanding that some words related to mathematics exist and have spent too much time glomming strings together. please kill me!"
17:15 mircea_popescu reminds me of those weirdo transforms in that weirdo wanna-be language we discussed recently.
17:15 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-27#1591144
17:15 a111 Logged on 2016-12-27 17:44 mircea_popescu: holy shit "Quaternion.Euler" is a full blown core function. and wait, there's more : http://answers.unity3d.com/questions/765683/when-to-use-quaternion-vs-euler-angles.html
17:17 ben_vulpes heh yeah
17:17 ben_vulpes hey i had a blast with quaternions once upon a time
17:17 mircea_popescu these however are spuriounions.
17:20 ben_vulpes "fuck, buddy. it's just a coordinate transform, you can handle those right?"
~ 16 minutes ~
17:36 BingoBoingo tyvm
17:41 ben_vulpes http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/yCTHc/?raw=true << ho ho ho god the pathologies on display
17:42 ben_vulpes "a line was crossed" nobody can use active voice anymore, saying your enemy's name doesn't give him power over you witchcraft isn't a thing
17:42 ben_vulpes "when core democratic ideals feel under attack" << core democratic ideals! feel! a+ "assuming the sale" right there
17:43 ben_vulpes "feel" hyu still cracks me up
17:43 BingoBoingo http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/02/13/singer-joy-villa-wears-trump-dress-to-grammys.html
17:43 ben_vulpes "on behalf of democracy, equality, human rights, social justice and sustainability" << sustainability!
17:43 ben_vulpes in with these other words whose meanings have drained from them at the hands of leftists bloodletters
17:43 BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: Do you know what provides surface area and that bacteria <3 more than charcoal? Peat moss
17:43 ben_vulpes BingoBoingo: do i hafta buy it from a factory?
17:44 ben_vulpes or does it come from some bog somewhere, extracted at rates far greater than the bog can replenish
17:44 BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: More you buy it from a mine of sorts, usually in Canada, and the fact of its extraction is why you must buy it while it still is cheap
17:45 ben_vulpes stockpile peat moss. k.
17:45 ben_vulpes thanks BingoBoingo
17:45 BingoBoingo Well not necessary pile, just load it up into the soil. Then mebbe pile some up.
17:46 ben_vulpes "are open to anyone who want to create a bright future that's rich with opportunity and freedom for all" << what if my bright future doesn't include towelheads, but it's still bright for everyone else, am i still welcome?
17:46 ben_vulpes BingoBoingo: i will keep that in mind for that oft-dreamt-of-day when i'm unlikely to relocate in five years
17:46 ben_vulpes not particularly interested in large scale soil amendment projects largely benefitting others
17:47 BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: Then make some raised beds and take it with you. Or buy bogmine in pete_dushenski fashion.
17:47 ben_vulpes BingoBoingo: funny you should mention raised beds, $girl finished the second yesterday.
17:48 ben_vulpes of course to effectively transport the dirt i'm going to need to buy a trailer
17:48 ben_vulpes oh no
17:48 BingoBoingo It's the way to do it. Concentrate the good dirt.
17:48 ben_vulpes more icefrastructure
17:49 BingoBoingo Anyways pete may know someone with a bogmine to sell
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18:34 asciilifeform !!up gabriel_laddel_p
18:34 deedbot gabriel_laddel_p voiced for 30 minutes.
18:36 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes rando eyeballs webshit trying to pr on top of the newsfeed. been going on since forever, not specifically more related ot the topic than the coca cola xmas edition
18:37 gabriel_laddel_p are there any links in the logs that need special treatment for archival? Current list: download youtube videos & pdfs.
18:38 asciilifeform gabriel_laddel_p: there are not so many youtube clips worth saving, and probably best handled on case by case basis, manually
18:38 mircea_popescu turning pdfs into proper (small, well formatted) html would be useful, cut adobe out of the document loop. videos meh.
18:38 mircea_popescu i never watch them.
18:39 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: this is demonstrably impossible in the general case (unless you count html turd with img tags and pages as bitmaps as 'well-formatted')
18:39 mircea_popescu what can i tell you. pdf gets displayed somehow. html is a notation for display. convert.
18:39 asciilifeform http://www.loper-os.org/pub/hl/hl.html << example.
18:43 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes so are we building the republican farms in costa rica ?
18:43 gabriel_laddel_p example of present html archive output: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bznn0f9Mk3KAY1JoVE1ybmx4UGc/view?usp=sharing
18:44 asciilifeform why is there js in there ?
18:45 gabriel_laddel_p is this an issue?
18:47 asciilifeform what do you think, gabriel_laddel_p ? i mentioned it because i needed to break in a new keyboard, or wut
18:47 asciilifeform noshit.jpg it's an issue
18:49 gabriel_laddel_p what I think: if someone has js turned on in their browser, it's because they want js. If turned off, they don't want it. I, at least, want an-accurate-as-possible archive of whatever shows up in the logs, including arbitrary files, videos etc.
18:50 asciilifeform gabriel_laddel_p: the current favourite, archive.is, is able to display the ~text~ of pretty much every linked turd (no matter how encrusted) without ~forcing~ viewer to enable js. can yours do this ?
18:59 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: 'we' are mitigating against the star topology in all sorts of stupid and entertaining ways
19:00 mircea_popescu kek
19:02 deedbot http://qntra.net/2017/02/pennsylvania-prosecutor-declines-to-charge-suspects-in-home-invasion-shooting/ << Qntra - Pennsylvania Prosecutor Declines To Charge Suspects In Home Invasion Shooting
19:04 ben_vulpes better dirt under your fingernails and a cupboard full of tomatoes than rubber food and children with no immune system
19:05 ben_vulpes "why have healthcare costs quintupled over the past three decades?" "did you roll your children in dirt today?" "no?" "well there you have it"
19:06 mircea_popescu you know, tomatoes don't keep.
19:07 mircea_popescu also there's
19:07 mircea_popescu !~calc 1.15 ^ 30
19:07 jhvh1 mircea_popescu: 1.15 ^ 30 = 66.21177195678574
19:07 mircea_popescu 66tupling.
19:07 ben_vulpes better throw out the family canning tools i guess
19:08 mircea_popescu (in fairness though, inflation didn't go over 10 before the monkey went into office)
19:08 ben_vulpes someone call the old witches and tell them the things they did all day were pointless
19:08 mircea_popescu ah, canned tomatoes. yeah. is the sun strong enough there to dry them well btw ?
19:08 ben_vulpes highly dependent on when the crop comes in
19:09 mircea_popescu now that's a way to make money as a etsy head, plant an acre of tomatoes, sell five or so tons of primo sundried tomato. 10k a ton or such.
19:09 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes tomato crop comes in from late july onwards into winter.
19:09 ben_vulpes depends on when mine come in relative to how strong the sun is at that time of year.
19:09 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: can you picture 'etsy head' harvesting an acre of something??
19:09 mircea_popescu ah. even worth making a mirror thing for this.
19:10 mircea_popescu asciilifeform yes, actually. i saw some harvest an acre of dicks, on their hands and knees.
19:10 ben_vulpes please not project mirror again
19:10 ben_vulpes oh god the microcontrollers
19:10 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes only mentioned it in the sense of "worth it moreso than for stupid solar power bs".
19:11 BingoBoingo http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=6591
19:11 asciilifeform !!up gabriel_laddel_p
19:11 deedbot gabriel_laddel_p voiced for 30 minutes.
19:11 gabriel_laddel_p Example text archive of http://slatestarcodex.com/2017/02/09/considerations-on-cost-disease/ -- https://raw.githubusercontent.com/gabriel-laddel/masamune/master/considerations-on-cost-disease.txt
19:12 ben_vulpes gabriel_laddel_p: i don't hate this!
19:12 ben_vulpes sure beats reading the source on over-modal'ed websharts
19:13 gabriel_laddel_p ben_vulpes: good to hear. If you or anyone else has something they want the archiver to do, speak now.
19:13 asciilifeform lulzy link btw
19:13 asciilifeform 'I worry that people don’t appreciate how weird this is. I didn’t appreciate it for a long time. I guess I just figured that Grandpa used to talk about how back in his day movie tickets only cost a nickel; that was just the way of the world. But all of the numbers above are inflation-adjusted. These things have dectupled in cost even after you adjust for movies costing a nickel in Grandpa’s day. They have really, genuinely dect
19:13 asciilifeform upled in cost, no economic trickery involved.'
19:13 ben_vulpes gabriel_laddel_p: don't set it in stone, things move very slowly in the republic.
19:14 gabriel_laddel_p one prior (many months ago) suggestion I liked: archive from that page to a depth of 2.
19:14 mircea_popescu gabriel_laddel_p if it could detect and wipe the idiotic wrap(80) thing that'd be great.
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19:15 ben_vulpes in other things i don't hate, this yamhill valley rose of pinots is not foul!
19:16 mircea_popescu but yes, it's actually a step in the right direction.
19:17 asciilifeform gabriel_laddel_p: the #1 thing i'd like from future archiver is duplicability
19:17 danielpbarron gabriel_laddel_p, do atruechurch.info
19:17 asciilifeform (i.e. that i can mirror the ~existing material~ and ~archiver itself~ immediately)
19:17 asciilifeform it is the thing most glaringly missing from archive.is
19:18 asciilifeform and i don't mean 'can mirror if i crawl the logs' but IN ONE SHOT
19:18 gabriel_laddel_p Sadly you will only be able to do this if you are running Masamune, as it is 100% dependent on its internals.
19:18 deedbot http://qntra.net/2017/02/resistance-leaders-wife-and-stepson-charged-after-body-found/ << Qntra - Resistance Leader's Wife And Stepson Charged After Body Found
19:19 asciilifeform gabriel_laddel_p: what part of the thing is something other than standard cl ?
19:19 asciilifeform and why ?
19:19 mircea_popescu and for the record, every film with michael douglas in it is a piece of shit ; but perhaps none as much as "the game". holy fucking shit, the premise is a dour dude who "has it all", including a disdainful relationship with his ex wife and two hotties vying for his attention at work nevertheless a) lives in a totally empty house. because how fucking hard & unthinkable it would be to get all the ex secretaries to live there hu
19:19 mircea_popescu rr ; b) goes to some derpy obscure "firm" and spends A WHOLE DAY of his apparently priceless-worthess time doing the equivalent of posting naked selfies all day on twitter.
19:19 mircea_popescu more contortedly idiotic nonsense "this is how rich dudes r, for srs guise" could scarcely be devised.
19:20 mircea_popescu dude fills in forms. i'm like "hey, when's the last time you saw me fill in a form ?". hilarity ensues.
19:20 mircea_popescu most of the girls never did, in their whole life.
19:21 mircea_popescu asciilifeform you would like the whole archive.is enchilada ? all the crap ~anyone~ ever saved there ? i imagine it's petabytes by now
19:21 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: maybe i would, or maybe not, but the ~option~ gotta be there.
19:21 asciilifeform or the thing is a glue trap.
19:22 gabriel_laddel_p danielpbarron: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/gabriel-laddel/masamune/master/atruechurch.info.txt
19:22 mircea_popescu myeah.
19:22 mircea_popescu shou;ld prolly download each link's zip i guess.
19:23 danielpbarron gabriel_laddel_p, does it not do the whole site?
19:23 gabriel_laddel_p danielpbarron: graphical version: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bznn0f9Mk3KAdWVrd3o0MmZfUnM/view?usp=sharing
19:23 gabriel_laddel_p danielpbarron: not yet.
19:24 gabriel_laddel_p asciilifeform: very little of this is CL. The save-page-complete and save-page-as-text comes as part of the conkeror browser, and I just drive it with CL.
19:25 ben_vulpes and to think, $girl wanted to move to .lt
19:26 BingoBoingo lol
19:29 mircea_popescu why did she ?
19:30 ben_vulpes mostly project explore-family-tree-and-meet-long-lost-branches
19:30 mircea_popescu if you're gonna move, go to ukraine. cheap and fertile.
19:31 ben_vulpes then i think slovenia was the next "what if"
19:31 asciilifeform lol kakolandia
19:31 mircea_popescu meh. buy it while it's cheap.
19:31 mircea_popescu slovenia was a move when she was 15.
19:32 mircea_popescu !up `_^gk`_^1wm`_^
19:32 mircea_popescu !!up `_^gk`_^1wm`_^
19:32 deedbot `_^gk`_^1wm`_^ voiced for 30 minutes.
19:32 mircea_popescu nice name.
19:33 ben_vulpes i'd not mind teh ukr, provided i could figure out where the shoosting is happening where it's likely to spread to etc etc
19:34 mircea_popescu think for a second : ukraine is as large as texas. if someone were firing 1mn rounds each and every single day, that's still about one round each million square meters.
19:35 mircea_popescu contrary to press reports, "dangerous" places are never practically dangerous.
19:36 ben_vulpes you don't have to convince me
19:37 mircea_popescu nevertheless, the ~only place in the world with land worth buying that you can afford to buy today is ukraina.
19:38 mircea_popescu now, whether they kick you out once it settles down is indeed a toss-up, but eventually at some point you're going to have to take a chance.
19:38 asciilifeform the mega-q is whether 'buying' does anything there
19:38 mircea_popescu right.
19:38 asciilifeform as per the thai pub thread
19:38 mircea_popescu except, he goes there to live. with woman. and small child. that MAY do something.
19:39 ben_vulpes appeals, but "or you could just move in upstairs" also appeals
19:40 mircea_popescu what, canada ?
19:40 ben_vulpes ancestral home
19:41 ben_vulpes you know what rankles?
19:41 ben_vulpes the room in which i grew up is larger than the house i rent today.
19:41 mircea_popescu myeah.
19:41 mircea_popescu anyway, i could never see the business case for canada.
19:41 ben_vulpes "surely come global warming all that land will be so farmable!"
19:41 ben_vulpes now that'd take a dyke system
19:42 ben_vulpes and that's coming from a guy who grew up in portland
19:42 mircea_popescu honestly i'd rather buy in africa. anyway.
19:42 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: which africa
19:43 mircea_popescu places inhabited by a thin sliver of idiots are essentially brackish water. canada, argentina, the us to a large extent. they're neither fucking nor will get off the pig.
19:43 mircea_popescu asciilifeform congo, subsaharan generally.
19:43 mircea_popescu shoot them like guinea pigs.
19:43 mircea_popescu kalash enforced land title.
19:43 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: been there yet ?
19:43 mircea_popescu briefly.
19:44 asciilifeform so somebody cancelled the tsetse fly, and other pleasures of 'climate not made for white man' ?
19:44 asciilifeform or mircea_popescu simply goes in for the taste
19:45 mircea_popescu eh. do you understand i produce about ONE QUARTER TON of water a week through diligent application of electric power in this god forsaken shithole ?
19:45 mircea_popescu there is no such thing as "climate made for white man". the thing with white man, unlike all other man, is that white man makes climate not the other way around.
19:45 asciilifeform living in the swamp -- i can easily picture this
19:45 asciilifeform maybe just me, but i like climates where i dun have to stay in the shielded dome, and can go out without a suit
19:46 mircea_popescu if you're going there to shoot people, you will be in a dome anyway.
19:48 ben_vulpes in other news, the wsj is approximately the only place not using a javascript paywall
19:53 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> anyway, i could never see the business case for canada. << Their crop (softwood lumber) is already grown!!!
19:53 mircea_popescu meh.
19:54 mircea_popescu if i wanted to be a girly just like my dear papa i might be more interested.
19:54 BingoBoingo Could take to Chicago, use as fuel for Hussein Bahamas Memorial Bio-Char plant!
19:58 ben_vulpes euphemism, BingoBoingo
~ 1 hours 54 minutes ~
21:52 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: by the way which was the article in which you related telling your father that if you ever saw him again you'd kill him?
21:54 trinque ben_vulpes: http://trilema.com/2014/how-i-was-wrong-cuckolding-or-a-story-about-sigmas/
21:54 ben_vulpes wao, trinque thanks
21:58 trinque yw
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23:48 deedbot http://qntra.net/2017/02/us-national-security-advisor-michael-flynn-blackmailed-into-resignation-by-us-deep-state/ << Qntra - US National Security Advisor Michael Flynn Blackmailed Into Resignation By US "Deep State"
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23:49 BingoBoingo ^ lizards score 1, only took them since December
23:54 mircea_popescu ahaha what!
23:54 mircea_popescu the soup's getting ready to boil!
23:56 BingoBoingo Flynn talked the the Russian ambassador in December as part of preparing for office. Unnamed bureaucrat has been slowly leaking details to press from wiretap. Flynn sinned by lying to Pence. Lying to Pence is a Cardinal sin.
23:56 mircea_popescu well yeah, why'd he do that.
23:57 mircea_popescu grab 'em by the pussy!
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