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04:40 whaack diana_coman: EOD Report: I did 4h of saltmines + the trip to Santa Cruz + wrote my article. the lost 4h on saltmines and no dedicated Spanish time are b.c. of going a little over time with my article and b.c. i was awake for fewer hours today
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08:29 diana_coman whaack: well, spill over is spill over, yes.
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14:00 whaack diana_coman: a previous report was a major overstatement - i have ~40,000 channels from ~200 networks rather than 700,000 channels from ~500 networks
14:00 ossabot Logged on 2019-12-28 02:17:11 whaack: just under 700,000 channels right now. I am missing channels from roughly 100 networks. They mostly offline, but some have a few rules that are messing up my script, such as "you must be connected for 60s before grabbing the channel list"
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15:05 diana_coman whaack: lolz, quite the difference there; how come? and are there in the end ~500 networks and you're missing ~300 or are there simply ~200 total or what?
15:07 whaack diana_coman: there are 597 listed networks on netsplit.de, but some of them appear dead (i can't connect via the advertised hostname/port)
15:09 diana_coman whaack: btw this is NOT programming ffs, it's monkeying at the keyboard, ugh.
15:11 diana_coman whaack: did you even spot-check those to see if it's perhaps just your bot(s)?
15:11 diana_coman it seems rather too large a chunk to be just bogus although it's not impossible nowadays either.
15:12 whaack diana_coman: i got the 500 networks-with-channels number because i ran an improper reduce on my list of networks. atm now i have nfi how i got the 700,000 channel total
15:12 diana_coman ahahaha
15:12 diana_coman well, at least it's funny.
15:13 whaack i think i did something like pipe it to wc and counted the words instead of the lines
15:15 whaack yup, that's what i did
15:16 whaack diana_coman: no i didn't spot check the networks where I received USOCKET errors
15:18 diana_coman it's just too many to leave it at that; one way or another it needs looked into; can still wait since there's a whole lot otherwise to get started on those you could connect to, but you can't say "they don't exist, netsplit.de is wrong" just on what you have so far; leave them for now in "??? category" perhaps, for laters.
15:21 whaack diana_coman: yes, I plan to investigate all the networks I was unable to connect to.
15:22 diana_coman all right; but it can wait.
15:22 whaack diana_coman: I think right now I need to design the pipeline that connects channel-snagger and fleetbot. So fleetbot can use what is available atm and begin logging, and then when new networks and channels appear it will start logging those as well
15:22 diana_coman sounds sensible, yes.
15:25 whaack diana_coman: For the issue regarding connecting enough bots to the bigger networks, it will take more time to build this - but I am willing to get enough ips and route through them.
15:29 whaack diana_coman: The work for that would be to setup ~10-20 proxy servers, and then find out how to set CL to route through different proxy servers on a per-thread basis.
15:32 diana_coman whaack: that can also wait though; first make at the very least a "test run" that fully works and you know what's going on in there.
15:33 diana_coman whaack: also re "silence", do notice that it might be due to the holidays time to some extent; it is New Year's Eve, after all.
15:34 whaack diana_coman: of course, two networks were in Bulgaria and it was late at night for the majority of the time i was connected
15:35 diana_coman whaack: does the bot log the join/parts too?
15:35 whaack diana_coman: no, would you like it to?
15:36 diana_coman I'd rather it did; ideally marked as a different category (so you can filter them out/in later, at analysis time)
15:36 diana_coman but it can give I suppose an idea of just how much of the whole imagined "activity" is nothing more than ...automated processes basically.
15:37 whaack diana_coman: okay. i will look into adding it
15:39 diana_coman cool.
15:39 whaack diana_coman: as for doing the "test run", should I connect a fleet to say ~50 or so small networks where I don't run into the max-connections-per-host problem?
15:43 diana_coman whaack: yes; and monitor it's run for at least several days/ a week, it's basically a first chance to get some idea of the practical issues; atm it's even unclear how much data you'll get for instance (and I expect that's anyway going to end up on some power law basically but still); test run indeed.
15:44 diana_coman its* ; ugh.
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17:01 diana_coman whaack: do select your sources better, really; that "definition" of codependency is worse than useless really; the first part is microsoft-style and the 2nd part reads more like a confusion than a definition; the core of it is the enabling of one's faults (hence the previous clue re don't use tmsr as a crutch)
17:04 diana_coman also, you glossed over/chose only some parts to answer to in that comment, lol.
17:04 * diana_coman will bbl
17:18 whaack diana_coman: okay i'll reread and comment addressing the points i missed. i had already waited 2 days to respond and i wanted to get _some_ response in.
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18:47 diana_coman whaack: why the delay anyway?
18:48 whaack diana_coman: i thought writing a reply would take a while
18:48 diana_coman you can always ack the point(s) otherwise and note you'll need to think it some more or something but even better maybe discuss it instead of just spinning around it.
18:49 diana_coman whaack: heh; did it take then more than alloted and so you cut out parts or how does this even work?
18:51 whaack diana_coman: i just addressed the points I saw most important to respond to and eventually decided i had spent enough time and hit the comment button
18:52 diana_coman basically "the rest is not worth my time" then?
18:52 whaack diana_coman: arg no i don't think that even if my actions say it
18:55 whaack diana_coman: but spinning on it is not worth my time, and i'm worried that i'll lose hours doing that
18:55 diana_coman heh, good; but yeah, that's what they say and why I said you should have at least explicitly stated that you need more time to consider the other points.
18:56 diana_coman whaack: so...don't; hence - discuss/ask/talk, do NOT spin.
19:02 whaack diana_coman: alright i will get back to that comment thread later today after some saltmines. writing the article and reading the comments helped me quite a bit. the most important discovery was from mp calling out the b.s. 'worthy-because-worthless' reasoning that was underlying my "his strategy to stay safely seated on his throne and keep the council well indoctrinated"
19:04 diana_coman whaack: ok; possibly "next year" even, no hurry.
19:08 whaack diana_coman: erm i need to clarify that is a light new years reference and not stinging sarcasm lol
19:11 whaack diana_coman: ^ that is a malformed q : you are saying that it's okay if I get to it tomorrow, correct?
19:16 diana_coman whaack: ahaha; yes, it's okay if you get to it tomorrow, no worries.
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19:54 dorion_road http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-12-30#1014287 - I wasn't using the &lt;, but I changed those << for &lt;&lt; and that indeed solved it, thank you!
19:54 ossabot Logged on 2019-12-30 04:53:15 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-12-29#1014265 - possibly it gets confused by those < < that remained as such, try making them &lt; since you do that for the rest anyway, right?
19:56 dorion_road http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-12-30#1014289 - yeah, I let myself get caught in, "this should be so simple, wtf am I overlooking ?"
19:56 ossabot Logged on 2019-12-30 04:57:24 diana_coman: dorion_road: also, don't bang head alone for that long - come in here and someone will bang your head for you if needed - or otherwise help you out way faster, you know?
20:08 BingoBoingo diana_coman: While I'm doing DNS things, did you have the minigame.biz restored anywhere?
20:15 diana_coman BingoBoingo: sadly no; it's only logs.minigame.biz that lobbes handles and so it's up.
20:16 diana_coman dorion_road: aren't those/the other &lt; normally handled by jfw's script? ie did you just find a bug in jfw's script in fact?
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20:35 dorion_road diana_coman I didn't use his logotron2wp script there, but won't neglect to use it moving forward.
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