#ossasepia | 2019-09-12

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http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-11#1002112 - the article describes a hierarchy of activities, not a "project"; ie you can do 1001 activities of type 1 (figuring out how stuff works) or not, it's not like a recipe of sorts

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ossabot

Logged on 2019-09-11 19:10:47 shrysr: stacked chairs...crude .. some holes...some dependent on user permissions in windows by admin. even this was deemed 'wont work'... worked for 3+ years. 1 year in my absence after i left mine... which is when they finally bought a fucking computing cluster for simulations iirc. the point is - the whole project and thought process --- very aligned to the layers described.

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02:57	diana_coman	http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-11#1002112 - the article describes a hierarchy of activities, not a "project"; ie you can do 1001 activities of type 1 (figuring out how stuff works) or not, it's not like a recipe of sorts
02:57	ossabot	Logged on 2019-09-11 19:10:47 shrysr: stacked chairs...crude .. some holes...some dependent on user permissions in windows by admin. even this was deemed 'wont work'... worked for 3+ years. 1 year in my absence after i left mine... which is when they finally bought a fucking computing cluster for simulations iirc. the point is - the whole project and thought process --- very aligned to the layers described.
02:58	diana_coman	in other words, it's a descriptive piece, useful to understand a part of human activities, not a prescriptive thing "you should follow those steps"
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02:59	diana_coman	but yes re alignment, that's why I've sent you to read it: because it fits and therefore you can use it as structure to start actually knowing yourself
03:03	diana_coman	http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-11#1002126 - ahahha; certifications, verifications, checks and all that - as long as there is nobody publicly and meaningfully taking responsibility, it'll be only empty labels, of course, what (and how) else.
03:03	ossabot	Logged on 2019-09-11 22:08:18 whaack: my recent job has me working with shithub. i uploaded code that i never signed that has a green sticker "verified" by me
03:04	diana_coman	http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-11#1002140 - it's not; the fact that you had the luck to find your way to just about the ~only place where yes, it is fundamental, doesn't mean that it's because "everyone knows it" or something.
03:04	ossabot	Logged on 2019-09-11 22:20:19 shrysr: well..even brief look at the ads is enough to confirm google does i guess? its prolly like treasure trove for em. ... same for shithub.. how cd they not peek? i guess if i had chance - i def would... but isnt - private key / encryption or atleast fundamentals kindda 101 for atleast comp sci ppl ?
03:06	diana_coman	http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-11#1002157 - inb8 shrysr wants to unleash machine learning on such data to extract precious knowledge out of the fudge :D
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03:06	ossabot	Logged on 2019-09-11 22:35:59 lobbes: I've lost count of how many times the 'reports' are changed/fudged before release, or how completely constructed ALL of the data is, or how many times I've heard that the various audit agents of the 'OCC' (office of comptrollers of the currency) literally just look for some % of issues boxes to tick on their sheet. It is all pretend, to make it look like something is happening. To justify the printing
03:07	diana_coman	I suppose if could be some fun to extract the patterns of fudging but I can't say I see much point/would be arsed.
03:10	diana_coman	http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-11#1002116 - mk but this is not at all the thing explicitly requested in http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-11#1001997
03:10	ossabot	Logged on 2019-09-11 21:09:59 whaack: diana_coman: so my previous work is a just few qntra articles http://qntra.net/author/whaack/ . I started to do research on how many coins are in the segwit ecosystem but did not finish. http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-21#1741793 Stan mentioned from that thread that a sha256 in CL was needed, perhaps that is still an open task? http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-23#1742513
03:10	ossabot	Logged on 2019-09-11 13:28:55 diana_coman: whaack: maybe make a summary with any tmsr-related things that you did so far and otherwise any tmsr parts/items you find interesting
03:12	diana_coman	whaack: you have a blog, right? Summarise there "I did x with y results; and z with t results etc"; link everything relevant, sure, but summarise the main points so that reader doesn't HAVE TO follow your links to figure out wtf you did
03:13	diana_coman	and part 2: take the time to go through all tmsr-things that you can find/figure out where to find and SUMMARISE that too: I looked in X and in Y and here's the list of things I found: t,p, r, etc. each of them with brief summary "this is my understanding re wtf this thing is"
03:13	diana_coman	and part 3: based on 1 and 2 above, I'm very much interested in a,b,c,d etc , in this order
03:14	diana_coman	whaack: ack the above and ask for help if you need it
03:15	diana_coman	understand though that you have to ask for help; you are not yet in a position to "how can I help" , at all.
03:15	diana_coman	fwiw I wish you were, sure; still, you are not.
03:16	diana_coman	shrysr: do you have any specific further questions re your draft? do you need anything else to revise it? there isn't all that much until Sunday, yes?
03:17	diana_coman	shrysr: you know, if I still have to pull out stuff of you like a fucking dentist, I'll get a drill at least.
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05:09	diana_coman	welcome bvt
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06:12	bvt	hello, diana_coman! you have very interesting discussion here
06:26	diana_coman	bvt: cheers! and feel free to join in.
06:30	diana_coman	by way of introduction to readers, bvt is Lord Verschlimmbessert as per http://trilema.com/2019/antiqua-sanctorum-patrum-or-the-lordship-list-sixth-year/?b=bvt&e=#select
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07:55	whaack	diana_coman: ack, I will list my previous work with their results/failures, do research on open tmsr-tasks and list them along with a summary of my understanding of them, and produce an ordered list of the ones i'm interested in
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08:32	auctionbot	B#1057 O=100mn LB=100mn E=2019-09-12 20:26:41.479316 (20h26) >>> item as described in http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934605 and following.
08:32	snsabot	Logged on 2019-09-07 04:57:27 mircea_popescu: so : who would like to do a spot of work for hire for me ? the ideea is to write and publish as a vpatch a stan logbot extension which a) processes search, through talking to a [presumably present] mysql server, and spitting out the results (formatted as in http://trilema.com/2019/
08:32	auctionbot	--- end of auction list, 100mn total bids ---
08:38	diana_coman	whaack: good; what's your deadline for that?
08:39	diana_coman	whaack: also, don't limit yourself to "open tasks", that's not the point; try to figure out directions/branches/parts rather; once that is clear, tasks can be found easily
08:40	diana_coman	I'd even say forget about "open tasks"; your goal is to map (even broadly) what is going on, so that you can then choose what matches you best
08:41	diana_coman	whaack: alternatively, if you want me to help you with matching, you'll have to say a lot more about yourself.