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07:46 spyked lobbes, hey ty!
07:48 spyked http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-05#1820740 <-- ftr, most of my names point to this address and I expect them to for the foreseeable future. I'll follow in trinque's footsteps and deed it.
07:48 a111 Logged on 2018-06-05 16:37 phf: resolves to 82.79.58.192 for me
07:53 spyked http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-05#1820744 <-- yes, although I'm personally not convinced one way or the other. my q is, should "allcomers" (e.g. people without WoT presence) even be able to comment? I don't know, maybe the question itself has no merit, mircea_popescu is of course much more qualified than me to establish this.
07:53 a111 Logged on 2018-06-05 16:42 mircea_popescu: spyked, the first portion is interesting imo. why shouldn't anyone be able to live comments ? something in the vein of "if every tree was carved any time anyone on the trail thought about some girl, we'd have toothpick forests" ?
07:57 spyked the question stemmed from "what are valid inputs for blogotron?", which led to "should comments be permitted for anons, or should they be predicated upon identity?". otherwise I very much like the current organization and I believe that venues that don't allow inline commenting (such as thetarpit in its current state) are only "half blogs", not fully.
08:01 spyked http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-05#1820747 <-- I dun disagree at all. as far as the thought experiment goes, I still wonder, though, whether those edges of productivity follow from *all* the lines of mp-wp code and is more than the sum of each, or whether there's a lot of extra crud in there. perhaps overly naively/boyishly at the time, I started my (still ongoing) experiment the other way around ("what is the minimum number of lines to
08:01 a111 Logged on 2018-06-05 16:50 mircea_popescu: "thetarpit blog scaffolding is a few kLoC of CL, but lacks *any* editor-side interface" << understand something : i publish more than anyone, and by anyone we don't mean solo operators, we mean whole fucking outfits. there's a reason for this. the fact that trilema is comfortable to me provides those last edges of extra productivity and intellectual leverage that convert exceptional performance into mindblowing performance. t
08:01 spyked spend to obtain sane blogging tool").
08:05 mircea_popescu spyked, you read the cherri&rae dialogue ?
08:05 spyked yeah
08:07 spyked will have to give it a second pass to make some notes, the variety of subjects discussed blew my mind a bit.
08:11 mircea_popescu so my question to you is : should someone who ~doesn't even own a computer~ (because no, her retarded "iPhone; CPU iPhone OS 11_2 like Mac OS X)" eminently is not a computer, nor anything even remotely LIKE mac os x) be allowed to comment ?
08:12 mircea_popescu should billiardaires even talk to the lowly bank clerks on the internets ? just how haughty shall we get before there's really nothing left to talk about ?
08:13 * spyked sees mircea_popescu's point
08:13 mircea_popescu (that, btw, is a reference. to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlVuu0nhiUw )
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08:33 spyked anyway, given my limited experience with wp (nowadays I just lul at the attackers from republic of moldova trying to gain wp-admin access for the old blog), I am ready to admit that mp-wp's may be the optimal permeability of this membrane. I was even tempted to switch to mp-wp, but I'm hoping to see trilema antispam implemented in Lisp at some point in the future.
08:34 spyked http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-05#1820781 <-- lol, I can't help it: http://thetarpit.org/posts/y03/05a-july-theses.html#selection-384.0-384.1 , http://thetarpit.org/posts/y03/05a-july-theses.html#selection-342.0-342.1 and other places in that piece.
08:34 a111 Logged on 2018-06-05 20:41 deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/06/miss-america-pageant-no-longer-a-pageant-or-about-beautiful-women/ << Qntra - Miss America Pageant No Longer A Pageant Or About Beautiful Women
08:34 mircea_popescu word. stalinism without stalin, how the fuck is this even possible.
08:34 mircea_popescu they miss daddy, these people.
08:36 spyked how did it go: "ceausescu e o scoala / ceausescu e o boala".
08:38 mircea_popescu myeah, ie o floare, ie un crin, ie parfumul cel mai fin.
08:51 mircea_popescu do you know, by the way, they've managed to do away with multitasking ?
08:51 mircea_popescu "smart"phones for dumb people ; can only do 1 thing at a time, and that's it. no remanence, let alone permanence.
08:52 mircea_popescu (not ~usefully~, obviously. it still runs all the various inca probing bullshit every cycle, of course)
08:59 mircea_popescu spyked, re the other thing, i expect the item can be both massively trimmed and significantly improved still. the discussion was carried in principle ("so manty lines!") not really objectively, "why this exact line for each line". i think it's entirely possible even the final product, as a conceptual ideal, may exceed (reasonable!) expectations of "how long code should be".
09:00 mircea_popescu take the obvious "wtf is with your >80 char lines omfg". well.. php is what's with it. hence the whole "it's a scripting language built atop a webotron, to glue it to a rmdbs, whadda ya want"
09:01 mircea_popescu ~hypertext preprocessor~. wtf are you going to do ? do you want hypertext or don't you ? do you want separable parts or don't you ? it's a triangle, right, a) well specified tasks ; b) separable parts ; c) no glue needed. pick two.
09:02 mircea_popescu alf picks ac and the web picks ab. these choices limit them respectively, because http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-04#1809002
09:02 a111 Logged on 2018-05-04 15:37 asciilifeform: asciilifeform does not say this to raise mircea_popescu's blood pressure, but strictly out of truth.
09:06 spyked mircea_popescu, re. smartphone, everytime I bring the "why use linux shitstack with so many layers of abstraction for mere phone" argument to certain ppl, they're all "oh, but it runs on so many devices". and I guess they're right in a certain way. gotta keep 'em busy, give 'em "choices", or at least the illusion thereof.
09:07 mircea_popescu i dunno that the item has anything to do with linux.
09:07 mircea_popescu by now it's a hoyota, son of used car lot owner built himself a car out of parts.
09:10 spyked afaik ios (the other smartphone os besides android) runs on 1 hardware platform and the os doesn't multitask (or maybe it does in the newer versions? hell if I know). while all other smartphones besides apple's run android, and there's some diversity in the hardware platforms, which is why they based the os on the kernel that "runs on everything".
09:11 mircea_popescu right. i was discussing the former. which, contrary to hopes&aspirations, owns the market.
09:11 spyked the downside is a horrible drain on battery (and there wasn't much of that to go with it in the first place), but eh, they made their choices.
09:13 spyked buuut... yeah, sometimes smartphone os lets user do 2 things at a time: listen to music while instagramming.
09:14 mircea_popescu just like in the old days of dos.
09:14 asciilifeform ipnoje? they have a split screen thing.
09:14 asciilifeform sorta like dos 'sidekick' i guess
09:15 mircea_popescu incidentally, when is the nsa computer ready ?
09:15 mircea_popescu im not gonna have her take nudies on her current shitstack.
09:16 asciilifeform on turdroid they have proper multi, and so typical plebe's pnoje resembles win98 box, with 9000 selfinstalled bg shitwares
09:18 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: c101pa? currently stuck on 'how the fuck to build even google's orig bootloader , out of the fragmentarily pseudo-opensrc pieces', before can even consider backporting their init to coreboot
09:18 mircea_popescu danielpbarron, you're still doing the eulora computer thing ?
09:21 spyked !!deed http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/eizdg/?raw=true
09:21 deedbot accepted: 1
09:23 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-06#1820837 << good % is simply rubbish, e.g. http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_genesis/hunk/blog/wp-admin/import/utw.php
09:23 a111 Logged on 2018-06-06 12:59 mircea_popescu: spyked, re the other thing, i expect the item can be both massively trimmed and significantly improved still. the discussion was carried in principle ("so manty lines!") not really objectively, "why this exact line for each line". i think it's entirely possible even the final product, as a conceptual ideal, may exceed (reasonable!) expectations of "how long code should be".
09:23 mircea_popescu ahh, the pleasure of ~being able to reference these~. thanks phf!
09:24 asciilifeform 'The Ultimate Tag Warrior Importer'
09:24 mircea_popescu asciilifeform, it's not directly evident to me this is rubbish, though i never used it.
09:25 asciilifeform or, say, http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_genesis/hunk/blog/wp-admin/includes/class-ftp-sockets.php
09:25 mircea_popescu (item is backwards compatibility obscura.)
09:25 mircea_popescu asciilifeform, idem.
09:25 asciilifeform why it needs ~own~ ftp server?!
09:25 asciilifeform because we host on winblowz box with no ftp??
09:25 mircea_popescu so you can run it without a ftp server.
09:25 asciilifeform it's outrageous
09:25 mircea_popescu it's what it is.
09:26 mircea_popescu in strict terms, i believe that is a pretty tight php implementation of ftp. "shouldn't exist", maybe, whatever. there it is.
09:26 asciilifeform lol, with regexps
09:27 mircea_popescu $go = !preg_match("/^([0-9]{3})(-.+\\1)? [^".CRLF."]+".CRLF."$/Us", $this->_message, $regs); <<
09:27 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_genesis/hunk/blog/wp-admin/includes/class-ftp-sockets.php#L23372 << lessee somebody prove this to have no false pos matches
09:28 mircea_popescu $ip_port = explode(",", ereg_replace("^.+ \\(?([0-9]{1,3},[0-9]{1,3},[0-9]{1,3},[0-9]{1,3},[0-9]+,[0-9]+)\\)?.*".CRLF."$", "\\1", $this->_message
09:28 mircea_popescu ahaha check that shit out.
09:29 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_genesis/hunk/blog/wp-admin/includes/class-wp-filesystem-ssh2.php << check ~this~ out. attempt to reimplement... ssh
09:29 mircea_popescu 500 lines! compare to the original!
09:29 mircea_popescu "but mp, none of this shit works" "shhh"
09:30 mircea_popescu asciilifeform, anyway, it's a wrapper, for a very hacky libssh.so
09:31 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_genesis/hunk/blog/wp-admin/includes/class-pclzip.php << 30+kloc reimplementation of pkzip
09:33 spyked so mp-wp is an operating system? ( http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-13#1798159 could then make a great corollary to greenspun's thing)
09:33 a111 Logged on 2018-04-13 16:20 mircea_popescu: spyked how about THIS definition for the operating system : "that set of code that is trusted implicitly". this then makes EVERYTHING on a windows machine operating system, which i contend is right and proper -- the necessary result of opaque monolith systems design is universalization of the os.
09:34 mircea_popescu spyked, there's a reason they put all the blogs on the same one box :D
09:34 mircea_popescu but yes, if you run a php interpreter you've got a windows box, pretty much. state of the art in empire.
09:49 mircea_popescu aaand in ancient trilemas, let's see today http://trilema.com/2011/de-ce-nu-plateste-lumea-ca-sa-citeasca-ziare-online/
09:49 mircea_popescu and perhaps http://trilema.com/2011/bun-si-mie-ce-imi-iese-la-faza-asta/ too.
09:49 mircea_popescu it's kinda lulzy for me to re-read what i was saying pre-bitcoin, and discover it's... not changed.
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10:08 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-06#1820855 << briefly returning upstack, once i find the uart pins and solder (under microscope, it will be a 1st class bitch) i can try starting with stock rk3399 loader, and welding on the c101pa peripherals init (which i've dug out of google's shitpile)
10:08 a111 Logged on 2018-06-06 13:18 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: c101pa? currently stuck on 'how the fuck to build even google's orig bootloader , out of the fragmentarily pseudo-opensrc pieces', before can even consider backporting their init to coreboot
10:09 mircea_popescu all the microscopy only needed for first debug unit though, rite ?
10:10 asciilifeform http://www.loper-os.org/pub/c101pa_dbg.jpg << it's in there.
10:10 asciilifeform and yes.
10:10 asciilifeform the soldering, ditto. strictly to make 'unbrickable' test unit for the bootloader attempts.
10:10 mircea_popescu aha.
10:11 asciilifeform for mass production, will still need to open up the boxen to do the write-unprotect magic (lift battery plug, boot on mains current, reflash, put back) but that's it.
10:13 mircea_popescu doesn't sound like a phd assembly line item.
10:13 douchebag I think I have lymes disease
10:13 asciilifeform interestingly, mb doesn't take up all of the space inside the case, there is room for maybe half a playing card's worth of iron (sadly not FG's worth..) inside
10:14 asciilifeform douchebag: bitten by tick just nao ?
10:14 douchebag I got bit by something
10:15 douchebag and now I have a bullseye shaped bite wound
10:15 mircea_popescu do you have the typical "coffee on blotter paper" erithrema, or what
10:16 douchebag It's red/black/blue at the center and redness surrounding the area
10:17 douchebag in addition to that I've been vomiting since I woke up
10:17 asciilifeform douchebag: are you on a mission in the taiga and there is no doctor or wat
10:17 mircea_popescu so go to the hospital, its treatable.
10:18 mircea_popescu asciilifeform, incidentally, part and parcel of the decay, all these eminently preventable diseases on marked rise in the us.
10:18 douchebag Yeah, I'm going in about an hour
10:18 asciilifeform douchebag: you have maybe a day or 2, before you end up with a decade+'s worth of ugh
10:18 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: verily
10:18 mircea_popescu such a sad soviet world.
10:19 asciilifeform african, not soviet.
10:19 asciilifeform su did not have this problem.
10:19 mircea_popescu ikr.
10:19 mircea_popescu soviet republic of angola.
10:23 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-06#1820853 << incidentally, the c101pa has a camera of some kind.
10:23 a111 Logged on 2018-06-06 13:15 mircea_popescu: im not gonna have her take nudies on her current shitstack.
10:23 mod6 mornin'
10:23 asciilifeform ohai mod6
10:23 * mod6 waves
10:24 mircea_popescu or just get a http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-19#1802801 like normal people.
10:24 a111 Logged on 2018-04-19 01:58 mircea_popescu: in unrelated news : i can't recommend the dsc-rx100 quite warmly enough. it's a splendid sony compact with zeiss lenses that's easily the best camera i ever saw.
10:24 * asciilifeform has that very same 'soapbox'
10:24 asciilifeform sadly enuff it loses to 3+ y.o. pnoje , somehow
10:25 asciilifeform despite the latter's fingernail lens
10:25 mircea_popescu i can't imagine how.
10:25 asciilifeform combination of the sensor and the stabilizer .
10:25 mircea_popescu i've seen the sort of pixelated bs the iphone spits out.
10:25 mircea_popescu ~no way.
10:26 asciilifeform speaking here of the 6th ipnoje.
10:27 asciilifeform ( which happily snarfs in, e.g., whole page of a4 text, legibly. ye olde minox nervously smokes in the corner )
10:27 asciilifeform granted it all goes straight to crapple.
10:28 asciilifeform i'd quite like to buy a standalone cam with equiv perfomance. but ( aside from kg brick of 'slr' ) they dun make them.
10:28 mircea_popescu you can't be serious, can you ?
10:28 asciilifeform pnojeism killed the soapbox
10:28 asciilifeform http://www.loper-os.org/pub/c101pa/button_0_big.jpg << ipnojecam
10:29 asciilifeform and ^ this is after scaling down from the ridiculous (4000x3000 or something close) orig res
10:29 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/antonio-29.jpg << sony.
10:29 mircea_popescu you can count the animal's tail hairs. the whole thing is a coupla mm in length.
10:30 asciilifeform it's a good pic
10:30 mircea_popescu i suspect problem may be rathere the operator than the performance of the hardware!
10:31 asciilifeform possibly. my rx100 is ~useless at palm's length distance.
10:32 mircea_popescu play with it, it's very customizable.
10:33 asciilifeform what i really oughta get, is a proper trinocular microscope. camera is great but can't really solder under camera.
10:33 mircea_popescu there is that.
10:35 asciilifeform the chinese ones are junk, however.
10:35 asciilifeform proper unit is serious $.
10:39 mircea_popescu maybe something by omax. afaik they were the standard budget item
10:40 mircea_popescu https://www.amazon.com/OMAX-40X-2000X-Trinocular-Microscope-Mechanical/dp/B00SGCG1XE << a few hundy.
10:42 mircea_popescu holy hell, you can actually buy them direct! http://omaxmicroscope.com/omax-40x-2500x-led-digital-trinocular-lab-compound-microscope-with-5mp-camera-and-mechanical-stage.html
10:45 deedbot http://deedbot.org/bundle-526297.txt
10:46 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo, seperation << it's separation you know. << ty fxd
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11:29 mod6 !!deed http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/wC07Y/?raw=true
11:29 deedbot accepted: 1
11:29 mod6 jurov: ^
11:36 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: bottom-light, and no boom , useless for electronics
11:37 mircea_popescu ah
11:37 mircea_popescu all my experience comes from fucking med students.
11:38 asciilifeform https://spectraservices.com/SP-S6D-BS.html << the type used in electronics work.
11:39 mircea_popescu maybe stuff like http://omaxmicroscope.com/special-microscopes/metallurgical-microscopes.html ?
11:40 asciilifeform can't really solder under those.
11:40 asciilifeform for chip reversing, yes, want metallurgist's microscope.
11:40 mircea_popescu aha
11:41 mircea_popescu in truth tho... something like a boomed magnifying glass may suffice here neh ?
11:41 mircea_popescu you're talking mms, nice large 3x, 5x, 8x glass is inexpensive.
11:41 asciilifeform it's what i use now
11:41 asciilifeform problem is glare.
11:41 mircea_popescu is it a low glare lens ?
11:42 asciilifeform not the problem. glare from the contacts on pcb. same reason pcb is such a bitch to photograph -- needs good low light sensor, if you simply up the lamp, you nuke exposure
11:42 asciilifeform ( all the au-plated junk )
11:42 mircea_popescu a yea...
11:42 mircea_popescu but have you tried colored light ?
11:43 asciilifeform the magic pill is polarizer
11:43 mircea_popescu quite.
11:43 asciilifeform (on proper scope)
11:43 mircea_popescu but ~color~ might actually do it too. metal is not uniformly reflective across spectrum
11:43 mircea_popescu get a battery of red leds say.
11:44 asciilifeform this is the classic case for polarizer, want only the diffuse light, not the orthogonal reflected
11:46 mircea_popescu true. but there's some merit in trying some combinations of fiddy bux solutions before springing the 3k
11:46 asciilifeform sorta what i do nao.
11:48 mircea_popescu yea
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12:21 mircea_popescu !!up BreakingRae
12:21 deedbot BreakingRae voiced for 30 minutes.
12:21 mircea_popescu go ahead, tell him.
12:23 BreakingRae Hey Spyked, I'd love to see your notes on what we discussed if you'll show me.
12:24 mircea_popescu did you ever apologize to alf for being such an orc, btw ?
12:24 asciilifeform she did!
12:24 mircea_popescu good thing you read pms.
12:24 asciilifeform weekly or so, lol
12:26 mod6 :D
12:26 BreakingRae I'm sure it won't be the last time I apologise to him for it too
12:27 mircea_popescu actually, he's hard at work with trictoscopes and things to make you a computer.
12:29 BreakingRae Step 1 in being slightly less of an orc maybe
12:29 mircea_popescu indeed.
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12:45 deedbot http://deedbot.org/bundle-526308.txt
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13:14 asciilifeform http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/237FBBA5B9D7D62EB0FEEC485D27209610B699FC1DCD47C73EB4AB2DFFDFC19D << in unrelated lulzies
13:15 mircea_popescu botnet sig ?
13:15 asciilifeform nfi
13:15 asciilifeform prolly embedded-linux rubbish
13:15 mircea_popescu or that.
13:15 mircea_popescu the difference though, is rather academic.
13:15 asciilifeform lotsa these sitting there 'green', waiting for their magic day.
13:16 asciilifeform this prolly is obvious, but if one gets a hold of 1 example of the router/etc in question, you have the priv
13:16 asciilifeform (it's an ssh pub)
13:16 mircea_popescu indeed.
13:17 asciilifeform speaking of which, it's still an open q, what to do re rng on c101pa
13:18 asciilifeform lesser evil is prolly the camera
13:18 asciilifeform ( and yes it will take an FG on the usb jack like any other box )
13:19 mircea_popescu it got no usb ports ?!
13:19 mircea_popescu right. that. what.
13:19 asciilifeform has 3 (1 normal, 2 weirdo 'usb-c')
13:19 asciilifeform right, i was speaking of the minimal unit.
13:19 mircea_popescu eh. fg.
13:19 asciilifeform also the 16GB onboard ssd is rather tight, for serious work i'd mount /home on a sd card.
13:21 asciilifeform ( re 'usb-c' -- it's an interesting item, worx as both usb and power in/out, the thing charges by being connected to mains brick through either of the 2 )
13:22 asciilifeform the schematics whisperer d00d suggested that it also has the uart brought out on hidden pins ; i have a test adapter cable due in this wk that will test this theory
13:25 asciilifeform ( somewhat unsurprisingly, d00d in q never returned with the promised docs )
13:37 asciilifeform speaking, upstack, of microscopy, did we ever do the 'why not gamma inspection, like for steel beams' thread ?
13:37 asciilifeform imho it's a promising (and afaik 100% unexplored, in re chip reversing) method, and , bonus, nondestructive (i.e. inspect and then ~use~ device)
13:38 asciilifeform given as they dun refract -- would need to use something like minksy's confocal method.
13:39 asciilifeform ( where a raster-scanning mechanical 'pinhole' is used, and the distance of source/detector from sample, is varied )
13:40 asciilifeform given as an ic is a relatively (vs e.g. steel beams, or cement) 'soft' material, you would not need the capsule-of-doom from http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-11#1812331
13:40 a111 Logged on 2018-05-11 16:40 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aaa the radar thing. funny story with these, the old-world version of this was the gamma-radiograph. in su they used them to evaluate cured cement prior to finishing a block of flat. aaand sometimes they'd forget the sr-90 brick inside the wall, and roast several generations of tenants
13:43 asciilifeform no need to decap, strip layers with acids, etc. potentially, just take 3d tomograph.
13:44 asciilifeform collimate the beam simply by selecting with long, thin lead tube.
13:47 asciilifeform *minsky's method
13:59 danielpbarron http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-06#1820856 << not really. i don't have any ready and i don't know if my recipe even works any more. i'm currently using a debian install for eulora
13:59 a111 Logged on 2018-06-06 13:18 mircea_popescu: danielpbarron, you're still doing the eulora computer thing ?
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14:33 BingoBoingo !Q later tell asciilifeform http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/lor9x/?raw=true Update on certain cats
14:33 lobbesbot BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
14:36 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: got it
14:36 lobbesbot asciilifeform: Sent 2 minutes ago: <BingoBoingo> http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/lor9x/?raw=true Update on certain cats
14:36 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: ty for the ack
14:42 phf i added a link on patch pages to "split hunks", which allows to render any patch the way mp-wp genesis is being rendered, e.g. http://btcbase.org/patches/genesis?inlinep=false
14:45 phf mostly a convenience since <patch name>/hunk/<path of hunk> works for all patches now, e.g. http://btcbase.org/patches/genesis/hunk/bitcoin/src/init.cpp
14:55 deedbot http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/06/06/6-months-in-montevideo-finding-a-clean-place/ << Bingo Blog - 6 Months In Montevideo: Finding A Clean Place
15:01 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: with the exception of the stove, this looks ~exactly like asciilifeform's hotel room
15:02 asciilifeform complete with oddball bathroom sink
15:02 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Also the sink placement
15:03 asciilifeform which chix is that in the coat ?
15:03 BingoBoingo The agencia's rep
15:04 asciilifeform aa
15:04 asciilifeform and srsly that's a japanese-sized flat
15:04 BingoBoingo And that's as big as they come before the carve out "bedrooms"
15:04 asciilifeform i think my dorm room at uni was bigger
15:05 asciilifeform does this place come with a net pipe ?
15:05 asciilifeform or will you need a sat dish, or what
15:07 BingoBoingo They have fiber here.
15:07 BingoBoingo https://tienda.antel.com.uy/categoria/internet
15:08 phf that's the cyberpunk future we've always wanted. 2sqm room (with bathroom) and a fat fiber line
15:10 asciilifeform lol
15:11 asciilifeform i was hoping he'd find something that can hold a crew of 2, at least on occasion
15:11 asciilifeform but if this is all that fits in the budget, then so be it
15:22 mod6 what are the rental terms? 1yr contract?
15:22 mod6 (could always find a bigger place later once we're above water)
15:25 BingoBoingo It's a one year contract.
15:27 mod6 Ok, cool.
15:34 BingoBoingo There is a point at which continuing to burn more time on the real estate thing yields diminishing returns. And when the days start getting longer, negative returns.
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15:50 ben_vulpes not just true for real estate!
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16:23 mircea_popescu danielpbarron, drat.
16:23 mircea_popescu what am i going to do!
16:23 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: issue the pet a rk3328 ?
16:23 asciilifeform these -- are ready to rock
16:23 mircea_popescu how ?
16:24 asciilifeform we have a shipments/logistics expert in the house, don't we
16:25 mircea_popescu who, dbp ? i thought he moved to rural ok to pursue a doctor in divinity thesis.
16:25 asciilifeform hey phf , didja ever put xorg on yours? how is performance ?
16:26 asciilifeform aa hm.
16:26 mircea_popescu anyway. i guess ima make her build a desktop, wtf can i do.
16:26 asciilifeform it's good for one's health, to build desktop.
16:26 asciilifeform junkyardwars. builds character.
16:27 mircea_popescu so instead of me aweing her with the might of tmsr, she gets to impress me with her digital dexterity ? ooookay...
16:27 phf asciilifeform: on a rok? no i haven't, yesterday i only had time to get a terminal out of it
16:27 asciilifeform phf: didja run into the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-03#1792708 lulgem ?
16:27 a111 Logged on 2018-04-03 22:23 asciilifeform: in other 'holyfuq, chinesium', 1500000 (!) baud default uart.
16:31 phf asciilifeform: yeah, i was going by various spec sites, but i have a dongle that handles that
16:31 asciilifeform phf: i had to go through several, before one worked
16:32 phf afaiu the special baud rate is rk exclusive
16:33 asciilifeform ( the only one that ended up speaking 1500000 baud, was ftdi's )
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17:59 deedbot http://qntra.net/2018/06/us-arrests-guy-named-ron-for-allegedly-being-chinese-spy/ << Qntra - US Arrests Guy Named Ron For Allegedly Being Chinese Spy
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19:40 * Mocky is picturing trying to fuck a med student with a microscope >> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-06#1820960
19:40 a111 Logged on 2018-06-06 15:37 mircea_popescu: all my experience comes from fucking med students.
19:40 asciilifeform lol
19:40 mircea_popescu they do have tinier snatches than average, i've noticed.
19:41 mircea_popescu some of the microscopy-est clits + clitoral hoods + labia arrangements i ever saw lived between the legs of med students.
19:43 asciilifeform in other noose, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-06#1821018 apparently requires a https://archive.li/9wxqo ( 'partners only' google proprietary dongle ) to enable uart; this, in turn, appears to be a usb-c 'debug accessory mode' magic-voltage set ; and it is deliberately (see below) poorly specced. i dug for the detail, turns out that it is likely being sat on by usg.google et al, because it also enables talking to recent intel iron ro
19:43 a111 Logged on 2018-06-06 17:22 asciilifeform: the schematics whisperer d00d suggested that it also has the uart brought out on hidden pins ; i have a test adapter cable due in this wk that will test this theory
19:43 asciilifeform otkit (r/w memory etc via usb jack)
19:44 asciilifeform ( various whisperings at https://archive.li/lQydM and elsewhere, for the expert entomologist only )
19:46 mircea_popescu heh
19:46 mircea_popescu so "it works until you try to", right.
19:47 Mocky http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-06#1821029 >> i tried your recipe (combination of your 2 recipes) 2 days ago and couldn't get the emerge @world to work to succeed. I didn't report since you mention your missing file and link to Trinque's post
19:47 a111 Logged on 2018-06-06 17:59 danielpbarron: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-06#1820856 << not really. i don't have any ready and i don't know if my recipe even works any more. i'm currently using a debian install for eulora
19:48 Mocky I figured I'd give it a try since I couldnt get my old 2014 version to install, nor my 2016 version
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21:48 deedbot http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2403 << Loper OS - Open Problem: Debug Accessory Mode on the Asus C101PA
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22:15 phf if you manage to build suzy-q replica at home you absolutely must name it siouxsie sioux
22:21 trinque Mocky: I'll have something for you to try out in a few days, if you like.
22:22 Mocky great, looking forward to it
22:22 * trinque got the cuntoo to build again, need to gather up all needed distfiles so we aren't fucked the next time shitworld's tectonic plates shift.
22:23 mircea_popescu good idea.
22:23 phf trinque: is cuntoo pure musl?
22:26 trinque yep, musl and libressl
22:36 mircea_popescu spyked, i will have you know that ~all~ the trainee sluts agree -- my version is good, yours isn't. SO THERE!\
22:38 phf asciilifeform: so the idea is to get into that npcx, which is running "chrome OS EC firmware"?
22:38 mircea_popescu !!up fromdeedbot
22:38 deedbot fromdeedbot voiced for 30 minutes.
22:39 mircea_popescu are you here for the sexy time fromdeedbot ?
22:39 fromdeedbot just stopping in.... i haven't read the logs from the last month
22:40 mircea_popescu your loss hehe.
22:40 mircea_popescu meanwhile in traps, https://78.media.tumblr.com/6b6f4f7fca17d852a510a64fa77b81d0/tumblr_p95alsJhPu1wlblsko1_1280.png
22:40 fromdeedbot where ever i go there i am, and all time is sexy on freenode
22:41 phf apparently that thing does everything, "ap power sequencing, battery charging, thermal management, keyboard scan matrix, buttons and switches, backlights, indicator LEDS, board-specific peripherals, USB-PD controller, case-closed debug controller, usb type-c power brick"
22:41 fromdeedbot if my aunt had a dick, she'd have been my uncle
22:42 fromdeedbot decepticons.... she needs a shave though
22:48 fromdeedbot namecoin is the new black..... as soon as earthlings sort their shit out
22:52 fromdeedbot namecoin and deedbot... i cant think of a better use case
23:03 asciilifeform phf: ec uart is separate and i dun need it
23:04 asciilifeform phf: idea is to get at the standard rockchip uart
23:05 phf hmm
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23:38 asciilifeform bahaha i have uart.
23:39 asciilifeform sbu1/sbu2 is a ~usb~ d+/d-.
23:39 phf hax
23:39 mircea_popescu win
23:39 asciilifeform well, possibly i spoke in haste, it ain't a cp201/ftdi/etc, but some google strange.
23:39 asciilifeform but 1st step.
23:44 asciilifeform article updated.
23:48 asciilifeform aajajajaja i have console...
23:50 phf what kind of console is it? does it respond to "version"?
23:50 mircea_popescu dun dun dun
23:50 mircea_popescu phf, i hope it's amiga :D
23:51 phf C64 of course
23:51 asciilifeform article updated again.
23:53 mircea_popescu nah, commodore was almost sane
23:54 phf well, it'll be like discovering alt-tmsr or lizard hitler, the way asciilifeform always wanted
23:57 asciilifeform http://www.loper-os.org/pub/c101pa/usb2spew.txt << spew.
23:57 * asciilifeform bbl.
23:57 phf "Console is enabled; type HELP for help."
23:59 mircea_popescu why not "Console might be enabled; type HELP ME LIZZARD HiTLER for finding out."
23:59 mircea_popescu or i guess HLTIER for max payn.
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