00:07 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5295 @ 0.00087029 = 4.6082 BTC [-] {2} |
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00:24 |
mircea_popescu |
;;later tell decimation mihaib sounds like quite the romanian name |
00:24 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
00:29 |
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Bet created: "Any European team to win 2014 FIFA Football World Cup" http://bitbet.us/bet/873/ |
00:30 |
mircea_popescu |
i gotta say i really like how btcalpha works. |
00:44 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43163 @ 0.0008695 = 37.5302 BTC [-] {3} |
00:56 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5832 @ 0.00086828 = 5.0638 BTC [-] |
01:07 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8067 @ 0.00086828 = 7.0044 BTC [-] |
01:18 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 16 @ 0.03030312 = 0.4848 BTC [-] {2} |
01:19 |
BingoBoingo |
;;bc,stats |
01:19 |
gribble |
Current Blocks: 303960 | Current Difficulty: 1.0455720138484837E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 304415 | Next Difficulty In: 455 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 7 hours, 25 minutes, and 53 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 11611667751.9 | Estimated Percent Change: 11.05565 |
01:20 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32356 @ 0.00086763 = 28.073 BTC [-] {3} |
01:21 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24361 @ 0.00086662 = 21.1117 BTC [-] |
01:23 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.21036645 = 0.6311 BTC [+] {3} |
01:24 |
BingoBoingo |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1707;sa=showPosts |
01:24 |
assbot |
Latest posts of: kslaughter |
01:25 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 20 @ 0.0304 = 0.608 BTC [+] |
01:28 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2101 BTC [-] |
01:29 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 8 @ 0.02811021 = 0.2249 BTC [-] {2} |
01:36 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 20 @ 0.02811015 = 0.5622 BTC [-] {2} |
01:39 |
dub |
lol |
01:39 |
lobbes |
It is a shitstorm in that thread. |
01:43 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 77 @ 0.00183002 = 0.1409 BTC [-] |
01:46 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00082843 = 3.3137 BTC [-] |
01:49 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00082843 = 8.2843 BTC [-] |
01:53 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 15 @ 0.02437999 = 0.3657 BTC [-] |
02:03 |
dub |
!t m s.mpoe |
02:03 |
assbot |
[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00082843 / 0.00087459 / 0.0008815 (1017982 shares, 890.32 BTC), 7D: 0.00080316 / 0.00087188 / 0.00090911 (6297303 shares, 5,490.53 BTC), 30D: 0.00080316 / 0.00090953 / 0.00101 (26331504 shares, 23,949.53 BTC) |
02:05 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07450141 = 0.3725 BTC [-] |
02:05 |
dub |
im struggling with how this person is profiting from all this manip^HHHrket making |
02:06 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 295 @ 0.07368519 = 21.7371 BTC [-] {15} |
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~ 15 minutes ~ |
02:21 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.02437999 = 0.2438 BTC [-] |
02:30 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00081 = 8.1 BTC [-] |
02:37 |
xmj |
Good morning. |
02:47 |
kakobrekla |
hi |
02:54 |
fluffypony |
gutentag |
02:56 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.21009006 = 0.4202 BTC [-] |
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~ 25 minutes ~ |
03:21 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00080218 = 0.8022 BTC [-] |
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~ 18 minutes ~ |
03:39 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 180 @ 0.02021789 = 3.6392 BTC [+] {5} |
03:40 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 30 @ 0.0202409 = 0.6072 BTC [+] |
03:43 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.0008 = 4.8 BTC [-] {2} |
03:52 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22947 @ 0.00080218 = 18.4076 BTC [+] |
03:53 |
benkay |
<BingoBoingo> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1707;sa=showPosts // what the fuck am i looking |
03:53 |
assbot |
Latest posts of: kslaughter |
03:53 |
dub |
with any luck the end of any need to further troll his victims |
03:54 |
dub |
its old now |
04:04 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.0202409 = 0.1417 BTC [+] |
04:05 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 327 @ 0.00210072 = 0.6869 BTC [-] |
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~ 16 minutes ~ |
04:21 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.07209 = 0.2884 BTC [+] {2} |
04:23 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 14 @ 0.0202409 = 0.2834 BTC [+] |
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~ 17 minutes ~ |
04:40 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00080143 = 2.4043 BTC [-] |
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~ 30 minutes ~ |
05:11 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 416 @ 0.02438471 = 10.144 BTC [+] {5} |
05:12 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.0245 = 0.1225 BTC [+] |
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~ 26 minutes ~ |
05:38 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4390 @ 0.0008 = 3.512 BTC [-] |
05:46 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 389 @ 0.0202409 = 7.8737 BTC [+] |
06:01 |
BingoBoingo |
benkay With any luck you were looking at someone's best efforts to spoil any money they might have already spent on lawyers. |
06:03 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.21100517 = 0.422 BTC [+] |
06:04 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.21100503 = 2.1101 BTC [-] {3} |
06:09 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.21910428 = 1.7528 BTC [+] {4} |
06:11 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 22 @ 0.22799999 = 5.016 BTC [+] {2} |
06:12 |
pankkake |
http://news.slashdot.org/story/14/06/03/0312232/seattle-approves-15-per-hour-minimum-wage notice the clever trick… it will be in 2021 |
06:12 |
assbot |
Seattle Approves $15 Per Hour Minimum Wage - Slashdot |
06:14 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.22 BTC [-] |
06:15 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.22 BTC [-] |
06:16 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.22 BTC [-] |
06:30 |
moiety |
good morning :D |
06:40 |
jurov |
hi moiety :) |
06:41 |
jurov |
you're up to a call to missouri, have you seen it? |
06:41 |
jurov |
(not anything urgent) |
06:47 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 48 @ 0.07201187 = 3.4566 BTC [-] {2} |
06:57 |
xmj |
!up |
06:57 |
xmj |
well, that worked. |
06:57 |
* |
xmj can recommend tilaa.nl for FreeBSD VPS. |
07:02 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 11 @ 0.021502 = 0.2365 BTC [-] {2} |
07:03 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.02111493 = 0.2111 BTC [-] |
07:17 |
* |
Naphex recommends using dedicated servers instead of virtual anything. |
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~ 22 minutes ~ |
07:39 |
* |
jurov recommends network of VPSes distributed to different suppliers |
07:39 |
jurov |
now if I can figure out how to sanely manage it |
07:48 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16650 @ 0.00079366 = 13.2144 BTC [-] |
07:49 |
xmj |
jurov: ansible ? |
07:49 |
Naphex |
why would you do anything on a hypervisor you don't control is beyond me. |
07:50 |
pankkake |
because it's THE CLOUD |
07:50 |
Naphex |
you can even skip thinking that anything stored there is secure. cause everything is available to the hypervisor and who runs it |
07:50 |
xmj |
Do you run a binary linux distribution like Fedora/EL6,7/Centos, Debian, Ubuntu, ...? |
07:50 |
Naphex |
your ram, your encryption, your keys, your storage, your IRQs |
07:51 |
Naphex |
i compile from source on verified sum packages |
07:51 |
fluffypony |
I'm moving all of my sites on to iCloud |
07:51 |
fluffypony |
I'll be writing them in Swift |
07:51 |
Naphex |
then snapshot that and use it to clone servers |
07:52 |
Apocalyptic |
fluffypony, sounds like a win |
07:52 |
fluffypony |
Apocalyptic: yeah it's really going to save me having to learn JavaScript and using Node, that seemed way too complicated |
07:52 |
fluffypony |
although I hear mongoDB is the best database because even CoinBase uses it |
07:53 |
Naphex |
"Objective-C without the baggage of C." |
07:53 |
Naphex |
so.. |
07:53 |
Naphex |
http://regmedia.co.uk/2014/06/02/swift_benchmark.jpg i like it how they beat python in it trololol |
07:54 |
jurov |
xmj when on every machine is potentially different distro, and even roles of the machines are different? |
07:55 |
Apocalyptic |
and they chose on the most used crypto algorithm today... behold RC4 |
07:55 |
Apocalyptic |
*one |
07:55 |
pankkake |
why would you use a different distro? |
07:55 |
jurov |
because they don't offer the one i want? |
07:55 |
pankkake |
oh, well, that sucks |
07:56 |
pankkake |
though yes I don't use Gentoo on VPSes |
07:57 |
jurov |
but it has some sweet upsides, part of coinbr infrastructure is down all the time, i can fix it later when I have the time |
07:57 |
jurov |
nobody noticed so far :) |
07:57 |
Naphex |
well, it shouldn't be down in the first place |
07:58 |
jurov |
well, since the part(s) running mpexagent is/are at physically hardly accessible place |
07:58 |
jurov |
some redundance is in order |
07:59 |
jurov |
are your keys physically inaccessible at secret locations, naphex? |
07:59 |
Naphex |
jurov: what keys? |
07:59 |
jurov |
coinbr needs gpg keys to trade on mpex, obv |
08:00 |
jurov |
and they must be online |
08:00 |
penguirker |
New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/knc-neptune-20nm-wafers-headed-packaging/ |
08:00 |
jurov |
so i had to hide them behind some layers... and using physical machines for all of them whould prohibitively expensive |
08:00 |
xmj |
jurov: as long as they have python installed, no problem |
08:01 |
xmj |
jurov: Ansible is pretty powerful even in heterogenous envs. |
08:01 |
fluffypony |
don't be sexist |
08:01 |
fluffypony |
even hetero servers need love |
08:01 |
xmj |
we use it from jenkins with different nix variants including centos and ubuntu |
08:02 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.22001595 = 0.44 BTC [+] |
08:02 |
Naphex |
jurov: i have a whole cluster of servers :p secret keys run on encrypted hardware, servers run bare and have several layers of security & apis for it. |
08:02 |
Naphex |
cold wallets can just be multisig |
08:03 |
xe4l |
Morning |
08:03 |
jurov |
xmj i'm still pretty much in the beginning, so far it seems saltstack has more fitting primitives |
08:03 |
Naphex |
everything is physical, on _owned_ hardware in special datacenters. |
08:05 |
jurov |
good for you |
08:05 |
xe4l |
I dont't understand the need for special datacenters |
08:05 |
Naphex |
well, don't know how much of a need it is |
08:05 |
jurov |
=DCs protected by specnaz |
08:05 |
xe4l |
unless your saying private colo, as in you alone have physical access |
08:05 |
xmj |
jurov: saltstack is brilliant if you want a master/client setup with at least one master configuring multiple clients |
08:05 |
xe4l |
otherwise an EQ or whatever is equally good |
08:05 |
Naphex |
but having datacenters with qualified professinals and an actuall account manger. + guarded access to the datacenter |
08:06 |
Naphex |
also you don't want shitty datacenter support running with your hard drives |
08:06 |
xmj |
Naphex: I like owned hardware. Co-location and self-owning is factually less expensive. but you'll have to maintain the hardware, which can suck. |
08:06 |
Naphex |
so you better make sure if its serious you pick a very good datacenter, with protection and other several high profile customers |
08:06 |
xe4l |
can always get a cage at EQ and swap the locks out |
08:06 |
Naphex |
xmj: if you pick good hardware and balance rightly there is not that much maintainance |
08:07 |
Naphex |
i mean replace and ocassional broken drive every year or so |
08:07 |
fluffypony |
xmj: please don't be sexist |
08:07 |
fluffypony |
master/slave is bad terminology |
08:07 |
xmj |
Naphex: yep, but definitely more so than when you outsource that whole thing to someone. |
08:07 |
Naphex |
and deprecate/switch some servers |
08:07 |
xe4l |
The trick is to have your dynamic capacity all on the cloud and use the hardware for things requring a high degree of trust |
08:07 |
xmj |
Naphex: obviously depends on your biz model. |
08:07 |
Naphex |
i mean, if you're making dough |
08:07 |
xmj |
if you're interested in building infrastructure, that's different |
08:07 |
Naphex |
you better hire a sysadmin |
08:07 |
Naphex |
and some coders and a designer |
08:07 |
Naphex |
to maintain your shit |
08:07 |
Naphex |
or just quit or sell it or whatever |
08:08 |
Naphex |
no point in delusioning yourself forever with outsourcing, and clouds, and virtual stuff |
08:08 |
xmj |
Naphex: we're in 2014 |
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↖ |
08:08 |
xmj |
clouds and virtual stuff _just works_ and has been for five years. |
08:08 |
xmj |
sysadmins are called 'devops engineers' |
08:08 |
Naphex |
well thats just washy washy |
08:09 |
Naphex |
too me it just sounds like lazy developers and lazy bussiness owners |
08:09 |
Naphex |
who just want to run their shit without every thinking about anything |
08:09 |
Naphex |
and meanwhile profiting |
08:09 |
pankkake |
the fact is that devops don't understand the first thing about unix |
08:09 |
pankkake |
my time at devops events = oh my god what am i doing here |
08:10 |
Naphex |
yes the webdevel generation |
08:10 |
xe4l |
there's a large disparity in the skillset of people with a devops |
08:10 |
pankkake |
it usually works fine until it doesn't |
08:10 |
jurov |
Naphex you do everything properly and they you get forced to surrender ssl cert to cloudflare anyway |
08:11 |
jurov |
upo thread of expulsion from the dc |
08:11 |
Naphex |
jurov: i've never heard of threat of explusion from dc, and if you get that just move. louzy dc |
08:11 |
pankkake |
that wasn't trolling? |
08:11 |
Naphex |
a dc should have proper ddos mitigations, and solutions for ddos/dos. and the worst case scenario they should cut your upstream |
08:11 |
xe4l |
I've never heard of that |
08:11 |
Naphex |
and recover after that |
08:12 |
jurov |
you have such dc in romania? |
08:12 |
xe4l |
Naphex: maybe if your dealing with bottom rate providers, why not build your own edge instead of using whatever blended they have |
08:12 |
Naphex |
jurov: yes |
08:12 |
Naphex |
i am very happy with my dc, they have everything <3 |
08:12 |
pankkake |
but do they have clouds? |
08:13 |
Naphex |
nowadays yeah |
08:13 |
Naphex |
my AM tried to sell me some cloud :) |
08:13 |
Naphex |
i told him to shove it |
08:13 |
Naphex |
but i still doubt they sell any cloud |
08:13 |
Naphex |
most of their customers are banks, and all kinds of srsfolk |
08:13 |
pankkake |
do romanians pronounce cloud in funny ways too? |
08:14 |
fluffypony |
butt |
08:14 |
Naphex |
caca |
08:14 |
Naphex |
cacacloud |
08:14 |
pankkake |
lol |
08:14 |
Naphex |
i mean, hey if you want some virtualizing buy 10 servers, host some hypervisor |
08:14 |
Naphex |
and run them up and down |
08:14 |
Naphex |
host your sendmail on vps1, http vps2, whatever |
08:14 |
pankkake |
http://youtu.be/sU8Sge0nNJU |
08:14 |
assbot |
Clouds - Radical Cutting Methods - YouTube |
08:15 |
fluffypony |
my biggest gripe with the cloud |
08:15 |
fluffypony |
is that a VPS of any measurably decent performance |
08:15 |
fluffypony |
costs me the same as a dedi box |
08:15 |
xe4l |
not really |
08:15 |
Naphex |
i mean whats this thing about costs nowadays |
08:15 |
xe4l |
there are quite a few inexpensive cloud providers |
08:15 |
fluffypony |
xe4l: oversold resources cannot compete with dedicated resources |
08:15 |
Naphex |
or just everyone poor?:) |
08:16 |
mircea_popescu |
am i the only one that most enjoys writing dismissal letters of all the letter types there are ? |
08:16 |
Naphex |
200eur/month for 32GBram sever, with 32 cores, and some fast storage |
08:16 |
Naphex |
run your shit forever |
08:16 |
mircea_popescu |
not even ransom notes are this much fun |
08:16 |
xe4l |
agreed, but that's not the use case of virtual servers really |
08:16 |
xe4l |
I wouldn |
08:16 |
xe4l |
run my main db on a vps, but I would run a bunch of read slaves, web servers, etc |
08:16 |
xe4l |
things I wanted to rapidly scale based upon demand |
08:17 |
mircea_popescu |
dub: im struggling with how this person is profiting from all this manip^HHHrket making << i don't see how it could be a single person, it makes no sense |
08:17 |
mircea_popescu |
also it's ^H^H^H |
08:17 |
mircea_popescu |
hi xe4l. who are you ? |
08:17 |
xe4l |
I doubt theres a single site in the alexa top 250 that runs purely off of cloud without basically purchasing the equiv of a physical box, eg: AWS provisioned vps |
08:17 |
fluffypony |
xe4l: last year I had to reindex a large database table (a necessary evil occasionally). I thought to offload it to a VPS provider, Linode or DigitalOcean or someone, so as to avoid needing to choke my db server. Needless to say, 12 hours in they shitcanned the VPS slice because of "excessive resource usage". |
08:18 |
xe4l |
friend of joecool, infosec/nix/network/etc person |
08:18 |
fluffypony |
so now if I need something like that I just fire up http://www.baremetalcloud.com and pay by the hour for a dedicated box to do the work |
08:18 |
mircea_popescu |
welcome. |
08:18 |
xe4l |
thank you |
08:19 |
mircea_popescu |
fluffypony, basically "the cloud" is just the new marketing gimmick, used to be "unmetered access shared servers" in 2004 |
08:19 |
fluffypony |
yeah |
08:19 |
mircea_popescu |
get INFINITE BANDWIDTH for $5 |
08:19 |
xe4l |
p.much |
08:19 |
* |
xe4l works for a very fast growing cloud hosting company |
08:20 |
mircea_popescu |
lmao |
08:20 |
mircea_popescu |
why in the hell. |
08:20 |
mircea_popescu |
*: Naphex recommends using dedicated servers instead of virtual anything. << im with him jurov. i would guess all the romanianz on the internet are with us. which means YOU ARE IN THE MINORITY. all of youse. |
08:21 |
jurov |
wut |
08:21 |
mircea_popescu |
fluffypony: I'll be writing them in Swift << and in a little while you can be known as rapedpony |
08:21 |
fluffypony |
hah hah |
08:22 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov, wut wut |
08:22 |
jurov |
trouble parsing that statement |
08:23 |
pankkake |
I've had to read it twice |
08:23 |
pankkake |
ovh really did have infinite bandwidth but they were apparently looking for it |
08:23 |
mircea_popescu |
pankkake, economics are economics. i get that the large peering networks mostly peer for free, but that "free" is a hidden cost |
08:23 |
mircea_popescu |
(you must offer equal capacity, which has a carrying cost on the books |
08:24 |
fluffypony |
Darkcoin fanbois eventually back down when cornered and admit there's no cryptographic grounding: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2751e8/psa_dont_fall_for_darkcoins_deceiving_marketing/chxy4wv?context=5 |
08:24 |
assbot |
Ozziecoin comments on PSA: Don't fall for Darkcoin's deceiving marketing and pump and dump. It's just a copy of CoinJoin (created by a Bitcoin core dev, for Bitcoin), and does not give perfect anonymity. |
08:24 |
mircea_popescu |
and even if you do make it huge, the ops will just start charging you for THEIR carry capacity, which you've now made a scarce resource through your managerial incompetence) |
08:24 |
mircea_popescu |
fluffypony, what i like is how "a core dev" is dropping the use of his actual name. |
08:25 |
fluffypony |
"Evan brings Darkcoin over 17 years of software development experience and an interest in artificial intelligence, financial markets and economics." |
08:25 |
fluffypony |
because when you want a cryptographically sound solution to anonymity |
08:25 |
fluffypony |
what you really want is a VB.net developer with an economics background |
08:26 |
pankkake |
that is 17 years old |
08:26 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov: so i had to hide them behind some layers... and using physical machines for all of them whould prohibitively expensive << actually the one secret in all of btc i;m most curious about is the complete schematics of the rat's nest jurov no doubt built. |
08:26 |
fluffypony |
https://www.darkcoin.io/meetteam.html |
08:26 |
assbot |
DARKCOIN |
08:26 |
fluffypony |
"Kyle brings over 25 years of experience in System Administration and Development. " |
08:26 |
fluffypony |
more relevant skills |
08:26 |
mircea_popescu |
i don't tend to spy on allies (unlike the us, let it be pointed out) and so i guess that's one thing to look forward to once he's extradited |
08:27 |
mircea_popescu |
ok you two im bashing that |
08:27 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, iirc coinjoin was gmaxwell's idea originally. ended up in a lengthy discussion with midnightmagic over its dismerits a year ago |
08:28 |
jurov |
mircea_popescu: it's kinda reverse of the schema of mpex proxies you have posted |
08:28 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov, i can't imagine there aren't piles of strange in there. |
08:29 |
mircea_popescu |
fluffypony, give them a link to that team of muppets, lemme find it |
08:30 |
mircea_popescu |
like "But was it <a href=http://trilema.com/2014/robert-keith-cristopher-jr-matt-sartain-kristian-thomson-cryptorush-much-comedy-lulzgoldmine/>built from the ground up with security in mind</a> ?" |
08:30 |
fluffypony |
OH they keep throwing that out |
08:30 |
fluffypony |
or is that the X11coin crowd |
08:30 |
fluffypony |
yes them |
08:31 |
fluffypony |
so I link them to mintcoin files in the X11coin github repository |
08:31 |
fluffypony |
and they're like "FUD! FUD!" |
08:31 |
mircea_popescu |
lolk |
08:31 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2000 @ 0.000081 = 0.162 BTC [-] {2} |
08:32 |
mircea_popescu |
i wonder what % of github traffic can actually boot a physical machine in any arbitrary os provided they get the distro. |
08:32 |
mircea_popescu |
(lowest qualification for any driver : can actually start any one car, irrespective of make or model) |
08:33 |
jurov |
lol when i got for first time a (rented) car with automatic gear |
08:33 |
jurov |
could not figure out how to put it in reverse |
08:34 |
jurov |
had to read the manual for 10mins |
08:34 |
mircea_popescu |
Naphex: jurov: i have a whole cluster of servers :p secret keys run on encrypted hardware, servers run bare and have several layers of security & apis for it. << i wager someone paid for a lot of brazilian waxing so far. |
08:34 |
fluffypony |
I find automatics very jarring and disconcerting to drive, lol |
08:34 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah, they're the mac os of cardom. |
08:34 |
pankkake |
reverse seems to be the only non standard thing in cars |
08:34 |
mircea_popescu |
all the fucking buttons are in unexpected places. |
08:34 |
pankkake |
as for github I'd say under 10% |
08:35 |
mircea_popescu |
pankkake, remember back when it was cool ? |
08:35 |
pankkake |
what was cool? |
08:35 |
fluffypony |
cats |
08:35 |
fluffypony |
cars |
08:35 |
jurov |
ponies |
08:35 |
fluffypony |
now moiety is going to get excited |
08:35 |
fluffypony |
jurov: ponies have never been cool, I'm the eternal hipster |
08:36 |
mircea_popescu |
xe4l: can always get a cage at EQ and swap the locks out << actually most midrange dcs don't let you swap locks out |
08:36 |
fluffypony |
"Q: Sometimes I get redirected to another site called “organicmoneyfarm”, what the?" LOL!! |
08:36 |
mircea_popescu |
some charge a fee for it. |
08:36 |
jurov |
waitwhat? bronies != hipsters now? |
08:36 |
pankkake |
indeed, cars used to be cool and got you the girls |
08:36 |
mircea_popescu |
pankkake, githoob. |
08:36 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 33 @ 0.07330533 = 2.4191 BTC [+] {3} |
08:37 |
pankkake |
I use giteub - teub is verlan for bite |
08:37 |
pankkake |
github is still cool, but I'm not |
08:37 |
mircea_popescu |
Naphex: no point in delusioning yourself forever with outsourcing, and clouds, and virtual stuff << exactly. and at this point i can't tell if xml is trolling or serious. |
08:37 |
mircea_popescu |
hey xml, you trolling or serious ? |
08:38 |
jurov |
you mean xe4l ? |
08:39 |
mircea_popescu |
no i mean http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-06-2014#699790 |
08:39 |
assbot |
#bitcoin-assets log |
08:39 |
mircea_popescu |
xmj i guess. not my fault he makes me thing of xml. |
08:39 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15574 @ 0.00079362 = 12.3598 BTC [-] {2} |
08:39 |
jurov |
oh he's clearly trolling |
08:39 |
mircea_popescu |
a ok. |
08:40 |
jurov |
but physical hw doesn't "just work" neither anymore |
08:40 |
mircea_popescu |
dude computers that "just work" are like girlfriends that "just fuck" |
08:40 |
mircea_popescu |
grow up. |
08:41 |
jurov |
i mean, that's fallacious argument |
08:41 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov: upo thread of expulsion from the dc << what shitcenter was this ? |
08:41 |
xmj |
mircea_popescu: if your girlfriend doesn't, then you're doing it wrong. |
08:41 |
mircea_popescu |
i don't have a girlfriend. |
08:42 |
xmj |
there you are |
08:42 |
mircea_popescu |
neither does jurov. |
08:42 |
mircea_popescu |
the reasons being, of course, outside of the realm of your priors. |
08:43 |
jurov |
what shitcenter was this ? most of faux-dcs i know about |
08:44 |
mircea_popescu |
Naphex: most of their customers are banks, and all kinds of srsfolk << that made my uvula bleed. when did banks become technologically apt omfg. |
08:44 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16350 @ 0.00079389 = 12.9801 BTC [+] |
08:44 |
mircea_popescu |
pankkake: do romanians pronounce cloud in funny ways too? << cloud in romanian sounds pretty much like duncan mcloud from the clan mcloud. |
08:45 |
pankkake |
by bank can't even configure their ssl properly |
08:47 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47350 @ 0.0007963 = 37.7048 BTC [+] |
08:48 |
xe4l |
most banks of a nice hardy shell and a gooey interior |
08:48 |
mircea_popescu |
im officially addicted to http://www.btcalpha.com/mpif-tracker/ nao |
08:48 |
assbot |
F.MPIF Live Tracker - Btc Alpha |
08:48 |
mircea_popescu |
mike_c you has ruined my internets productivity |
08:48 |
xe4l |
I obliterated my first fortune 10 pentest |
08:48 |
xmj |
mircea_popescu: case in point |
08:48 |
xe4l |
all in-scope systems in north america in 24 hours |
08:48 |
mircea_popescu |
xmj, im sorry ? |
08:48 |
xmj |
mircea_popescu: if you do a startup, with an idea in mind -- highlevel one -- and let yourself get distracted by hardware/network issues right in the beginning |
08:49 |
xmj |
mircea_popescu: then that's just you doing it very very wrong as those shouldn't be part of your business in the beginning. |
08:49 |
xmj |
s/business/core business/ |
08:49 |
jurov |
xmj, you should praise github then |
08:50 |
mircea_popescu |
the universe where a heroic twentysomething starts leinterwebs bizniss is a very interesting fictional metaverse. we revel in retelling the stories of adventure and glory much like some women enjoy watching telenovellas. |
08:50 |
xe4l |
github actually has a decent setup these days |
08:50 |
mircea_popescu |
but meanwhile, business is made by businessmen not by aspi[rational] kids |
08:50 |
Naphex |
xmj: hey distracted, since when do you do high level apps, and not think about the hardware they are running or the performance you want to get out of it |
08:50 |
Naphex |
picking hardware to run your shit should be one of the first steps |
08:50 |
jurov |
with decent 0days...just that anyone can commit anything |
08:50 |
Naphex |
and if you can't do it, hire someone who can |
08:50 |
* |
xe4l works with the people that previously worked at github |
08:51 |
mircea_popescu |
xe4l, does that mean all the women or what ? |
08:51 |
xe4l |
no women from github yet |
08:51 |
xe4l |
devops people mostly |
08:51 |
Naphex |
<+mircea_popescu> Naphex: most of their customers are banks, and all kinds of srsfolk << that made my uvula bleed. when did banks become technologically apt omfg. << Maybe but they can pick good datacenters ;] |
08:51 |
pankkake |
jurov: but that's the spirit of open source! :) |
08:51 |
mircea_popescu |
now this may be true. |
08:51 |
Naphex |
and they will have a big sec status on their servers |
08:51 |
xmj |
Naphex: no, thoughts like that right in the beginning are expensive, spin up two-three VPS until you have a customer base to warrant and pay for those thoughts. |
08:52 |
mircea_popescu |
xmj srsly, you;re being stupid. |
08:52 |
xmj |
Naphex: bro do u even lean? |
08:52 |
xmj |
do u even bootstrap? |
08:52 |
mircea_popescu |
i dunno why you think you're entitled to put forth that nonsense in the company of adults, but don't. |
08:52 |
mircea_popescu |
!up joesmoe |
08:52 |
mircea_popescu |
;;gettrust assbot joesmoe |
08:52 |
gribble |
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08:52 |
xmj |
mircea_popescu: Listen kiddo. I'm talking how it's really done in here. |
| |
↖ |
08:53 |
mircea_popescu |
joesmoe, you'll need to get in assbot's l2 trust |
08:53 |
xmj |
You do not think about hardware until you get to a point where you can reasonably say you've run into scaling issues. |
08:53 |
xmj |
75% of the startups I know run off AWS. |
08:53 |
xmj |
the others use heroku, rackspace or what-have-you cloud-based hosting. |
08:53 |
xe4l |
I ran my last venture off aws |
08:53 |
xe4l |
aws is terribly expensive though |
08:54 |
mircea_popescu |
i guess my ignore list was hungry. |
08:54 |
Naphex |
so basicly |
08:54 |
Naphex |
don't plan shit |
08:54 |
mircea_popescu |
;;rate xmj -1 meets my definition of marauding idiocy. |
08:54 |
gribble |
Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user xmj has been recorded. |
08:54 |
Naphex |
and run everything elsewhere not thinking about anything except your very nice hot new facebook app |
08:54 |
Naphex |
that you're doing high level expensive thinking on |
08:54 |
xmj |
;;rate mircea_popescu -2 has no idea about lean startup strategy |
08:54 |
gribble |
Error: You do not meet qualifications for entering ratings. |
08:54 |
xmj |
well that's a shame. |
08:55 |
fluffypony |
startup strategy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKQdlXvbWSU |
08:55 |
assbot |
Ford Raptor jumps 90 feet! - YouTube |
08:55 |
Naphex |
lean startup strategy == fail startup strategy? |
08:55 |
xe4l |
the startup strategy I'm the most fond of at this point is to get the MVP out the door asap so your customers can begin to use your product |
08:56 |
xmj |
exactly |
08:56 |
Naphex |
see, now it takes 2 days |
08:56 |
Naphex |
to buy some servers |
08:56 |
Naphex |
and install em |
08:56 |
xmj |
and thinking about low-level crap like hardware and network infrastructure just is not conducive to your MVP. |
08:56 |
xe4l |
sadly, as much as is I love building the perfect thing on the first go, it's not terribly pheasable unless it's a b2b business |
08:56 |
mircea_popescu |
xe4l, what's the rush anyway. |
08:56 |
xmj |
exactly |
08:56 |
xe4l |
b2c demands you begin to get feedback from your customers |
08:56 |
xe4l |
so you can start tuning the product |
08:56 |
mircea_popescu |
or to put it in another perpsective, if you're in any hurry either your product isn't in a good enough market or your financial structure is shit. |
08:57 |
Naphex |
what have this people been brain washed to do |
08:57 |
mircea_popescu |
fix both first. |
08:57 |
xmj |
I'm not talking about business services. |
08:57 |
xe4l |
I agree with that mircea_popescu |
08:57 |
Apocalyptic |
<Naphex> what have this people been brain washed to do // kinda been wondering the same |
08:57 |
xmj |
mircea_popescu: Bootstrapped lean startups have next to no financial structure. |
08:57 |
mircea_popescu |
i mean sure, everyone gotta eat, so plentry of people will habve to be employed in marginal businesses. |
08:57 |
mircea_popescu |
but if you're claling your marginal business "A start-up" you're basically begging to work for free |
08:57 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00079768 = 0.7977 BTC [+] |
08:58 |
mircea_popescu |
that's why salaries were invented : to pay for work in marginal businesses. |
08:58 |
Naphex |
i don't get most of the arguments anyway |
08:58 |
Naphex |
like its expensive to think about infrastructure |
08:58 |
Naphex |
and networking |
08:58 |
Naphex |
and bleah hardware |
08:58 |
Naphex |
the low level shit |
08:58 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11808 @ 0.0007963 = 9.4027 BTC [-] |
08:59 |
mircea_popescu |
"it's too expensive to do what we should nbe doing but are too lazy to do" |
08:59 |
jurov |
Naphex, good sysdamins are cheap? |
08:59 |
Apocalyptic |
it requires a brain, and it's getting expensive to fond one these days |
08:59 |
mircea_popescu |
or how the us turned itself from a world power into a competitor for nigeria. |
08:59 |
Apocalyptic |
*to find |
09:00 |
Naphex |
to me this sounds exactly like the markting bull in the oldies, where you buy shitty 12$ hosting |
09:00 |
xe4l |
haha Apocalyptic damn tooin |
09:00 |
Naphex |
for your super uber new online bussiness |
09:00 |
mircea_popescu |
now where's that link |
09:01 |
mircea_popescu |
http://www.27bslash6.com/p2p2.html |
09:01 |
assbot |
"It's like twitter. Except we charge people to use it." |
09:01 |
Naphex |
is U.S. not producing any more good sysadmins? |
09:01 |
Naphex |
import some mexicans |
09:02 |
xe4l |
if anyone has a desire for strong anonymity, pm me, someone I know is setting up something interesting |
09:02 |
Naphex |
on cloud hosting |
09:02 |
Naphex |
with everything you do readable to everyone |
09:02 |
Naphex |
developed using lean mean startup strategy of makeing the website, and hosting the vps on amazon aws |
09:02 |
Naphex |
VPN* |
09:04 |
chetty |
oy vey, some of the 'thinking' going on here explains all the recent big data breeches nicely |
09:04 |
Naphex |
i've seen 16 y/o with access to hacked vps supervisors on pretty big providers |
09:04 |
Apocalyptic |
haha, thanks for the link mircea |
09:05 |
mircea_popescu |
chetty, for some reason benkay figured we need live examples of the ycombinator-and-clones "businessmen" for further lulz. |
09:05 |
chetty |
I guess we all could use a refresher every now and then |
09:06 |
mircea_popescu |
at least usagi & co have the excuse that they insistently make nonsensical claims because their brains don't actually work |
09:06 |
Naphex |
http://www.lean.org/whatslean/ |
09:06 |
assbot |
What is Lean |
09:06 |
Naphex |
LEAN thinking |
09:06 |
Naphex |
so culty |
09:06 |
Apocalyptic |
Naphex, more like lean forward |
09:06 |
Naphex |
haha |
09:06 |
xe4l |
Naphex: hm, wonder how they got that access |
09:06 |
xe4l |
hypervisor escape exploit/ |
09:07 |
Naphex |
xe4l: probably hacked em with shitty brute force scans |
09:07 |
xe4l |
lol probably |
09:07 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26930 @ 0.00079827 = 21.4974 BTC [+] {2} |
09:07 |
mircea_popescu |
xe4l, nobody is going to drop such a valuable exploit on such a shitty thing |
09:07 |
xmj |
Note: I'm not saying how I'd do it. |
09:07 |
xe4l |
not very many elite 16 year olds these days |
09:07 |
xe4l |
eh you'd be surprised |
09:07 |
Naphex |
16:07 <+mircea_popescu> xe4l, nobody is going to drop such a valuable exploit on such a shitty thing << you don't burn exploits |
09:07 |
xmj |
I say it how I've seen it in countless incubators, coworking spaces, and the likes. |
09:07 |
mircea_popescu |
now this my nbe true, my experience is 2nd hand. |
09:07 |
* |
xe4l has had some z days |
09:08 |
xe4l |
it's not burning it if no one gets your exploit |
09:08 |
Naphex |
oh someone will |
09:08 |
mircea_popescu |
^ |
09:08 |
xmj |
mircea_popescu: how long do you usually ignore people? |
09:08 |
mircea_popescu |
talk about securing bitcoin being hard. |
09:10 |
chetty |
hey lets throw some spagetti at the wall and see if it sticks |
09:11 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17500 @ 0.0007991 = 13.9843 BTC [+] |
09:16 |
Mats_cd03 |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sF-YBfnappM |
09:16 |
assbot |
Eminem - Mom's Spaghetti (remix) Original - YouTube |
09:17 |
Mats_cd03 |
nvm this version sucks |
09:23 |
bitcoinpete |
;;rate usagi -5 milkman who can't back up .dat file. not to be trusted with coins. |
09:23 |
gribble |
Rating entry successful. Your rating of -5 for user usagi has been recorded. |
09:24 |
fluffypony |
heh |
09:26 |
bitcoinpete |
fluffypony: i got a kick out of those later comments on the bitcointalk thread |
09:26 |
bitcoinpete |
https://twitter.com/bitcoinpete/status/473818072474984448 |
09:26 |
assbot |
Lol funny watching /UsagiMeijin get his eyes pumped shut on the forums. What did he expect? https://t.co/UFbfHZzZqW |
09:27 |
fluffypony |
lol |
09:28 |
bitcoinpete |
so i've asked him to make his requests public on the comments section of my blog |
09:28 |
Mats_cd03 |
i dunno why any of you bother |
09:29 |
bitcoinpete |
we'll see if he follows through or if he wants to be be all plaintextprivate |
09:29 |
Mats_cd03 |
dude's sipping mai tais and lolling at a laptop somewhere in bermuda |
09:29 |
bitcoinpete |
Mats_cd03: and we're sipping manhattans and lolling at him |
09:30 |
bitcoinpete |
so? |
09:30 |
Mats_cd03 |
drama llama |
09:30 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28850 @ 0.00080244 = 23.1504 BTC [+] {3} |
09:31 |
Naphex |
"Actually I have to admit I am a little suprised at the negativity I'm getting over this, it's as if people automatically assume every failure is intentional." |
09:31 |
Naphex |
lol |
09:31 |
Apocalyptic |
is that an usagi quote ? |
09:31 |
Apocalyptic |
could be Karpeles |
09:31 |
Naphex |
its probably both |
09:31 |
Naphex |
hehe |
09:34 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 321 @ 0.07144737 = 22.9346 BTC [-] {8} |
09:35 |
Naphex |
"give him all your money. maybe the next failure could be due to some rats chewing on the cables ??" i lol'd |
09:36 |
fluffypony |
thestringpuller: "Don't be a "fucking" retard, and watch your language with me." - lol, you have incurred the wrath of usagi! |
09:36 |
fluffypony |
"Do you want me to pull quotes from #bitcoin-assets too?" |
09:36 |
fluffypony |
usagi reads logs - HI USAGI! |
09:37 |
Naphex |
"This" makes me seem totally irresponsible. But here's the deal; we had regular, weekly, off-site backups. Even if someone got a hold of the backups they would be unable to take money out of the wallet without the password. And despite people saying "RAID is not a backup"" |
09:37 |
Apocalyptic |
so fluffypony is allegedly a scammer now |
09:37 |
Apocalyptic |
this is getting better and better... |
09:37 |
Naphex |
too bad they can just grab your walletpassphrase from your code lolol |
09:37 |
Naphex |
or your bash history file, or just listening to your tty |
09:37 |
fluffypony |
Apocalyptic: I'm hoping to join the honoured ranks |
09:38 |
pankkake |
where are those quotes from? |
09:38 |
pankkake |
;;gettrust usagi |
09:38 |
gribble |
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09:38 |
Naphex |
was readying the usagi thread |
09:38 |
Naphex |
reading* |
09:40 |
mircea_popescu |
!up princessnell |
09:41 |
mircea_popescu |
<Mats_cd03> i dunno why any of you bother << cause their girlfriends have girlfriends of their own and so they get bored ? |
09:41 |
princessnell |
thx. morning all! |
09:42 |
mircea_popescu |
hey there. |
09:42 |
princessnell |
how goes it? |
09:43 |
mircea_popescu |
And despite people saying "RAID is not a backup"" << "... i classified it as off-site so it is in a sauna somewhere which is the highest security level there is." |
09:44 |
fluffypony |
"Did you know fluffypony is actually a well-known scammer who has ripped off dozens of people with his openrigs scam? I know -- what's he even doing here?" |
09:44 |
fluffypony |
lol |
09:44 |
fluffypony |
,,rate fluffypony -1 obviously I'm a well-known scammer |
09:44 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.22 = 1.54 BTC [-] |
09:44 |
Naphex |
well you do live in africa ;]]] |
09:45 |
fluffypony |
I haven't even told you that I'm a Nigerian prince yet |
09:45 |
fluffypony |
I was saving that for later |
09:45 |
Naphex |
hehe |
09:46 |
Naphex |
the new RS7/A7 looks gorgeus |
09:46 |
Naphex |
http://www.drivearabia.com/news/2014/06/03/2015-audi-a7-s7-rs-7-revealed-with-minor-facelift-uae-saudi-ksa-qatar-gcc/ |
09:46 |
assbot |
2015 Audi A7, S7 & RS 7 revealed with minor facelift | Drive Arabia : Dubai / Abu Dhabi [UAE, Saudi, Bahrain, Qatar, Kuwait, Oman & GCC] |
09:48 |
fluffypony |
pretty |
09:49 |
bitcoinpete |
more and more robotic looking |
09:49 |
bitcoinpete |
more like ironman's mask |
09:49 |
fluffypony |
they're deploying the transformers, bitcoinpete |
09:49 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 31 @ 0.02806454 = 0.87 BTC [-] {5} |
09:50 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 11 @ 0.0276 = 0.3036 BTC [-] {2} |
09:52 |
bitcoinpete |
robots in disguise lol |
09:52 |
mike_c |
mircea_popescu:im officially addicted to http://www.btcalpha.com/mpif-tracker/ nao << perhaps I should add a credits system :) |
09:52 |
assbot |
F.MPIF Live Tracker - Btc Alpha |
09:53 |
fluffypony |
lol! |
09:53 |
fluffypony |
paywall'd by mike_c |
09:54 |
mike_c |
hm.. all the #b-a blogs should charge the same credits, spend them to read the other blogs, get them when people read your blog. talk about a circle jerk. |
09:54 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0737999 = 0.738 BTC [+] |
09:55 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0738 = 0.369 BTC [+] |
09:57 |
mike_c |
xmj:;;rate mircea_popescu -2 has no idea about lean startup strategy << wait, shouldn't that merit a positive rating? |
09:58 |
xmj |
mike_c: not if he dislikes my stating how it is. |
09:58 |
princessnell |
lol so many ~lean startup~ lemmings in mordor |
09:59 |
xmj |
mike_c: if he shits on me for stating how other people do (and fail at) it, then yes, that does deserve negative ratings. |
10:00 |
mike_c |
well, i'm not looking to reignite that silly argument. "bootstrap lean fail-fast pivot" is a joke. |
10:03 |
asciilifeform |
is 'lean startup' a new euphemism for 'starving artist' ? |
10:03 |
chetty |
lean does not have to = stupid. Sadly most of them are. |
10:04 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00080433 = 5.8716 BTC [+] |
10:04 |
princessnell |
such a fuzzy buzzy term |
10:05 |
Apocalyptic |
asciilifeform, you may not be too far |
10:06 |
bitcoinpete |
princessnell: from your rt: my wife works in the same field as her dad and my mother works in a related field to hers. |
10:07 |
bitcoinpete |
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2014-06/03/silk-road-study |
10:07 |
assbot |
Study claims Silk Road reduced drug-related violence (Wired UK) |
10:08 |
Mats_cd03 |
https://soundcloud.com/felixjaehn/felix-jaehn-shine-feat-freddy-verano-linying-2 |
10:08 |
assbot |
Felix Jaehn - Shine (feat. Freddy Verano & Linying) by Felix Jaehn on SoundCloud - Hear the worlds sounds |
10:10 |
fluffypony |
ok so let me tell you about my new startup: it's going to be a one-click backup service called iWalletBackup. It will let you use Siri via raise-to-talk to back all your wallets up to iCloud. It's being written in Swift and will use mongoDB as a backend. It can scale nearly instantly because it will just fire up new AWS instances on-demand. Our development methodology is fail-fast-fail-often, where we'll write an iteration, and then once that |
10:10 |
fluffypony |
code has failed in production we'll shut the startup down, start a new one, buy the old one out, and then repeat. We call this Multi Startup Synergistic Prefailure, and it's inspired by the work of Tsukino Usagi. |
10:10 |
princessnell |
bitcoinpete i almost did the same and went into law. dodged a bullet there! |
10:11 |
bitcoinpete |
princessnell lol you definitely did! |
10:12 |
Mats_cd03 |
89baller |
10:12 |
bitcoinpete |
my choices were law and architecture |
10:12 |
Mats_cd03 |
^ baller, that is |
10:12 |
bitcoinpete |
bitcoin combines a bit of both, i suppose |
10:13 |
bitcoinpete |
fluffypony: step 1. blog, step 2. ipo |
10:13 |
princessnell |
ha, ya, it does |
10:13 |
princessnell |
also, re silk road, i love it when i beat <3science<3 by a few months: http://theumlaut.com/2013/08/13/silk-road-as-a-self-regulating-black-market/ |
10:13 |
assbot |
Silk Road as a Self-Regulating Black Market | The mlaut |
10:13 |
fluffypony |
oh damn I forgot we need an IPO step for every failure |
10:13 |
fluffypony |
we're planning on monthly failure->IPO->buy out iterations |
10:13 |
pankkake |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Sidekick_data_loss |
10:13 |
assbot |
2009 Sidekick data loss - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
10:13 |
bitcoinpete |
fluffypony: the ipo is only the most important part |
10:14 |
bitcoinpete |
it's where we get paid! |
10:14 |
* |
fluffypony feels ashamed |
10:14 |
bitcoinpete |
other than when we "forget to backup" |
10:14 |
bitcoinpete |
both = profit |
10:14 |
fluffypony |
as a KNOWN SCAMMER I should've known better |
10:14 |
fluffypony |
I have failed scammer-kind |
10:14 |
bitcoinpete |
ya why is openrigs still a private thing? |
10:14 |
fluffypony |
I have to commit scampukku |
10:14 |
bitcoinpete |
don't you want redditards to make money? |
10:14 |
Mats_cd03 |
https://soundcloud.com/fkj-2/fkj-lying-together |
10:14 |
assbot |
FKJ - Lying Together by FKJ on SoundCloud - Hear the worlds sounds |
10:15 |
fluffypony |
bitcoinpete: I think I'm the world's worst scammer |
10:15 |
fluffypony |
you guys have seen this, right - http://coingen.io |
10:15 |
assbot |
Coingen |
10:16 |
princessnell |
o ya, made a sweet novelty coin for my pug |
10:16 |
bitcoinpete |
fluffypony: heard of things like that. $50 for a coin or w/e |
10:16 |
fluffypony |
so I think we should do IPOgen - it can create a website, a logo, an IPO forum post, and list you on CryptoStocks |
10:17 |
jurov |
i'd do IPO for cryptostocks relief fund |
10:17 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SMG] 2219 @ 0.0000654 = 0.1451 BTC [-] {2} |
10:17 |
jurov |
and list it on CS, of course |
10:17 |
fluffypony |
and it could be recursive - the test of the code is that it must IPO itself |
10:17 |
mike_c |
coingen is how Altcoin was born |
10:18 |
bitcoinpete |
i don't think silbert could be any dumber: https://twitter.com/barrysilbert/status/473822123085950976 |
10:18 |
assbot |
Exciting bitcoin possibilities too MT /Recode: What Apples Fingerprint ID Changes Mean for Its Big Mobile Payments http://t.co/Hx8fneUHbA |
10:19 |
bitcoinpete |
mike_c: didn't know that about altcoin… i don't know why i thought it was a costlier project |
10:19 |
fluffypony |
I think it's a great idea - your private key is made from your fingerprint. That way if you don't put your finger down *just* right you get a whole new privkey and can't access the old one till you figure out how you put your finger down previously |
10:20 |
mike_c |
cost != value :) |
10:21 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33100 @ 0.00080169 = 26.5359 BTC [-] {3} |
10:24 |
fluffypony |
Mats_cd03: just letting it run through the recommended tracks is actually pretty awesome, Sound Cloud has gotten better and better for discovering music |
10:25 |
bitcoinpete |
mike_c: of course, you're right :) |
10:26 |
bitcoinpete |
fluffypony: or you could have 10 privkeys, one per finger. max! |
10:26 |
fluffypony |
great idea! |
10:26 |
bitcoinpete |
this will cut down on blockchain bloat |
10:26 |
bitcoinpete |
and make it so that iphones can carry the full blockchain |
10:27 |
fluffypony |
well the other nice thing is the harder it is for people to retrieve their privkeys, the more likely they are to be lost forever |
10:27 |
fluffypony |
which increases the value of Bitcoin by reducing the supply |
10:28 |
fluffypony |
so really they'd only be doing themselves a favour |
10:28 |
jurov |
cut all dem fingerz |
10:30 |
bitcoinpete |
finger thieves will replace haxxors |
10:31 |
bitcoinpete |
less scared of nsa, more scared of shop class |
10:31 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SMG] 4685 @ 0.00004 = 0.1874 BTC [-] |
10:38 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.21015158 = 1.6812 BTC [-] {8} |
10:39 |
fluffypony |
pankkake: we haven't discussed your fee yet, and u-saga wants to know how much we're paying you |
10:39 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 61 @ 0.20340599 = 12.4078 BTC [-] {14} |
10:40 |
fluffypony |
[̲̅$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅] |
10:40 |
fluffypony |
let me know if that's enough |
10:40 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [-] |
10:47 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19550 @ 0.0007991 = 15.6224 BTC [-] |
11:02 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.025499 = 0.1275 BTC [+] {5} |
11:03 |
Mats_cd03 |
https://soundcloud.com/octobersveryown/drake-0-to-100 |
11:03 |
assbot |
Drake ~ 0 to 100 / The Catch Up by octobersveryown on SoundCloud - Hear the worlds sounds |
11:03 |
Mats_cd03 |
fun fact: drake is a canadian jew |
11:04 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.025499 = 0.255 BTC [+] |
11:05 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.07100011 = 0.284 BTC [-] |
11:06 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 9 @ 0.0226 = 0.2034 BTC [+] |
11:09 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.216 BTC [+] |
11:09 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SF1] 247 @ 0.00060999 = 0.1507 BTC [-] |
11:13 |
bitcoinpete |
http://blogs.wsj.com/venturecapital/2014/06/02/bitcoin-startup-bitfurys-ceo-earlier-repped-notorious-market-ex-ua/ |
11:13 |
assbot |
Bitcoin Startup BitFury’s CEO Earlier Repped ‘Notorious Market’ Ex.ua - Venture Capital Dispatch - WSJ |
11:13 |
Mats_cd03 |
https://soundcloud.com/adultjazz/spook-1 |
11:13 |
assbot |
Spook by Adult Jazz on SoundCloud - Hear the worlds sounds |
11:13 |
bitcoinpete |
"He said that BitFury is slated to open the world’s largest data center aimed at producing bitcoin near Tbilisi. It will have electric power capacity of 20 megawatts" |
11:14 |
bitcoinpete |
$250 |
11:14 |
bitcoinpete |
$250M valuation for bitfury |
11:16 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.18670056 = 1.867 BTC [-] {4} |
11:17 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6823 @ 0.00080433 = 5.4879 BTC [+] |
11:19 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0224 = 0.112 BTC [-] {2} |
11:19 |
mike_c |
!t h smg |
11:19 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK:SMG] 1D: 0.00004000 / 4.833E-5 / 0.00006541 (7609 shares, 0.36772550 BTC), 7D: 0.00004000 / 4.921E-5 / 0.00007210 (8009 shares, 0.39413104 BTC), 30D: 0.00004000 / 6.26E-5 / 0.00009920 (22814 shares, 1.42811808 BTC) |
11:21 |
mike_c |
does nobody in here have a havelol account? i guess it's not worth picking up the bit-dime in arbitrage. |
11:23 |
bitcoinpete |
;;later tell jurov wondering if you can do transfer of s.mg from havelol to coinbr… |
11:23 |
artifexd |
mike_c: I have one. It's empty but it exists. What do you need? |
11:23 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
11:24 |
mike_c |
well, i don't need anything. just saying there is arbitrage available between havelock smg passthrough and mpex. |
11:25 |
mike_c |
but transferring shares off havelock is prohibitively expensive, which is probably why nobody bothers. |
11:27 |
artifexd |
1BTC minimum fee per transfer?! |
11:27 |
Mats_cd03 |
how long does it take for BB to deposit winnings following resolution |
11:27 |
artifexd |
Yeah. "Prohibitively expensive" is right. |
11:28 |
mike_c |
artifexd: so where does that leave the shares. owning a share of s.mg on havelock is only worth 50% as much as a share on mpex. crazy, huh. they are way overpricing those havelock shares :) |
11:29 |
bitcoinpete |
artifexd: blimey |
11:30 |
mike_c |
Mats_cd03: dunno, but i think less than a day in general. |
11:31 |
Mats_cd03 |
http://bitbet.us/bet/802/bitcoin-to-drop-under-300-before-june 2 days :( |
11:31 |
assbot |
BitBet - Bitcoin to drop under $300 before June :: 4.75 B (10%) on Yes, 41.24 B (90%) on No | closed 1 week 2 days ago |
11:31 |
artifexd |
You'd need over 25k shares to cover a 50% arb. There aren't that many shares for sell under .00009 on havelol. |
11:35 |
bitcoinpete |
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ballmer-brings-cheer-competitiveness-clippers-164905128--finance.html |
11:35 |
assbot |
Ballmer brings cheer, competitiveness to Clippers - Yahoo Finance |
11:35 |
bitcoinpete |
cheer > racism |
11:37 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 16 @ 0.20986614 = 3.3579 BTC [+] {6} |
11:43 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 65 @ 0.00351102 = 0.2282 BTC [+] |
11:44 |
mike_c |
Mats_cd03: that one has already been paid out.. |
11:47 |
Mats_cd03 |
mike_c: http://bitbet.us/bet/802/bitcoin-to-drop-under-300-before-june/#b58 i dont see the funds https://blockchain.info/address/17HvePmDqPnKjZ79FrB1yicZPqyxTN4BnR |
11:47 |
assbot |
BitBet - Bitcoin to drop under $300 before June :: 4.75 B (10%) on Yes, 41.24 B (90%) on No | closed 1 week 2 days ago |
11:47 |
assbot |
Bitcoin Address 17HvePmDqPnKjZ79FrB1yicZPqyxTN4BnR |
11:48 |
bitcoinpete |
huh |
11:49 |
Mats_cd03 |
am i high and missing something |
11:49 |
mike_c |
i don't think you are. |
11:49 |
bitcoinpete |
no, none have been paid yet |
11:50 |
Mats_cd03 |
ok |
11:51 |
mike_c |
well how the hell are you supposed to know that? it says it's been paid out. |
11:51 |
mike_c |
paging kakobrekla. |
11:52 |
nubbins` |
;;view |
11:52 |
gribble |
#20672 Mon Jun 2 11:57:18 2014 nubbins` SELL 1.0 OFFICIAL #bitcoin-assets t-shirt @ 0.03722 BTC (Worldwide shipping included. Optional '#bitcoin-assets / freenode' text on back. http://imgur.com/jmcSFTx) |
11:53 |
artifexd |
nubbins`: How many orders have you received for those shirts? |
11:53 |
nubbins` |
8 shirts so far |
11:55 |
bitstein |
I may order one soon. That looks awesome. |
11:56 |
kakobrekla |
;;later tell mircea_popescu <mike_c> paging kakobrekla. |
11:56 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
11:56 |
bitstein |
This happened to me once: https://i.imgur.com/k7lRM00.jpg |
11:56 |
mike_c |
that's confusing. |
11:58 |
bitcoinpete |
bitstein: lol classic |
11:59 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.03262148 BTC to 8`452 shares, 24049 satoshi per share |
12:00 |
nubbins` |
see, i understand "check your bitcoin privilege" to have an opposite meaning to the general "check your privilege" |
12:00 |
artifexd |
So what are the "reasons that BTC is overwhelmingly white and male"? And why does "it matter"? |
12:00 |
nubbins` |
artifexd: don't ask us, ask her :D |
12:00 |
artifexd |
Is she in here? |
12:00 |
nubbins` |
she's on twitter |
12:00 |
artifexd |
Ich |
12:01 |
* |
nubbins` shrugs |
12:03 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.18625552 BTC [-] |
12:05 |
chetty |
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/sec-charges-bitcoin-entrepreneur-for-share-offering-2014-06-03?mod=latestnewssocialflow&link=sfmw |
12:05 |
assbot |
SEC charges bitcoin entrepreneur for share offering - MarketWatch |
12:06 |
nubbins` |
HEH |
12:06 |
benkay |
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/sec-charges-bitcoin-entrepreneur-for-share-offering-2014-06-03?mod=latestnewssocialflow&link=sfmw |
12:06 |
assbot |
SEC charges bitcoin entrepreneur for share offering - MarketWatch |
12:06 |
benkay |
i got up to share no fair |
12:06 |
* |
nubbins` shrugs |
12:06 |
nubbins` |
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/sec-charges-bitcoin-entrepreneur-for-share-offering-2014-06-03?mod=latestnewssocialflow&link=sfmw |
12:06 |
assbot |
SEC charges bitcoin entrepreneur for share offering - MarketWatch |
12:06 |
fluffypony |
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/sec-charges-bitcoin-entrepreneur-for-share-offering-2014-06-03?mod=latestnewssocialflow&link=sfmw |
12:06 |
assbot |
SEC charges bitcoin entrepreneur for share offering - MarketWatch |
12:06 |
nubbins` |
hahaha |
12:06 |
chetty |
fluffypony, I beat you to it |
12:06 |
fluffypony |
chetty: I know, I was just trying to be cool like you guys |
12:06 |
fluffypony |
:-P |
12:06 |
benkay |
sec confirmed to be criminals, prosecuting people who do it all above board over the outright frauds |
12:07 |
nubbins` |
"Voorhees agreed to settle the charges by giving up the profits of $15,843.98 and paying a penalty of $35,000." |
12:07 |
chetty |
yeah, they are tryihng to look busy I guess, got to earn those bonus |
12:07 |
nubbins` |
VOORHEES AGREED TO FORK OVER 50BTC |
12:07 |
* |
nubbins` gasps at the horror |
12:07 |
fluffypony |
"giving up the profits of $15,843.98 and paying a penalty of $35,000" |
12:07 |
fluffypony |
oh ffs nubbins` |
12:07 |
benkay |
and in other, slightly related news, the creator of satoshi dice's daughter died in a plane crash |
12:07 |
fluffypony |
stop beating me to it |
12:08 |
chetty |
lmao |
12:08 |
nubbins` |
fluffypony: suid afrika needs fibre internet |
12:08 |
fluffypony |
lol |
12:08 |
nubbins` |
your bits are too slow |
12:08 |
benkay |
and you're running out |
12:08 |
fluffypony |
benkay: who created satoshi dice's daughter? |
12:08 |
fluffypony |
confused |
12:08 |
fluffypony |
oh - you mean the daughter of the satoshi dice creator |
12:08 |
fluffypony |
ffs my brain |
12:08 |
benkay |
i labored over the sentence for maximum confuse |
12:09 |
mike_c |
that must have been a great phone call. "Mr. Voorhees, give us 50 btc and it all goes away". "Uhh, seriously? Ok!" |
12:09 |
jurov |
bitcoinpete: that's question for havelol, not me, if they do s.mg transfers to mpex at all. |
12:09 |
benkay |
how did they come to the 15k number? |
12:09 |
benkay |
ipo raise in fiat? |
12:09 |
nubbins` |
who the fuck knows? |
12:09 |
nubbins` |
how did they come to $35k? |
12:09 |
nubbins` |
definitely took more money than that to get to this point |
12:10 |
chetty |
yeah it almost reads like a joke |
12:10 |
nubbins` |
"the sec is pleased to announce that it suffered a net loss of only $150,000 in securing mr voorhees' conviction" |
12:10 |
nubbins` |
maybe dr foreskin is their supervisor? |
12:11 |
chetty |
sec can't lose money, they just get more of yours |
12:11 |
bitcoinpete |
jurov: aok |
12:11 |
nubbins` |
well, not lose in the sense of "we can't find it" |
12:12 |
nubbins` |
more lose in the sense of "we paid a bunch of shitbags their wages for doing pointless work, and they blew their money on nail painting and chicken bowls" |
12:12 |
Mats_cd03 |
this cathy doesnt get it |
12:12 |
nubbins` |
if she got it, she wouldn't work for motherboard |
12:12 |
chetty |
http://www.sec.gov/litigation/admin/2014/33-9592.pdf |
12:14 |
chetty |
In anticipation of the institution of these proceedings, Respondent has submitted an Offer |
12:14 |
chetty |
of Settlement (the Offer) which the Commission has determined to accept |
12:14 |
fluffypony |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=635317 |
12:14 |
assbot |
Myth: the Payment Protocol is bad for privacy |
12:15 |
fluffypony |
reign of fire |
12:15 |
fluffypony |
"You wasted two years of time to develop this useless feature, while there were so much more important issues to address in the bitcoin software. |
12:15 |
fluffypony |
And here we are; few years later, the blocks are getting full and the only solution the bitcoin core lead dev has to address it, is still the same: we must increase the block size! " |
12:15 |
chetty |
At the time of the |
12:15 |
chetty |
SatoshiDICE |
12:15 |
chetty |
offerings, the USD value of the total |
12:15 |
chetty |
bitcoin |
12:15 |
chetty |
s |
12:15 |
chetty |
raised was |
12:15 |
chetty |
approximately |
12:15 |
chetty |
$ |
12:15 |
chetty |
7 |
12:15 |
chetty |
22,659 |
12:15 |
chetty |
. |
12:15 |
chetty |
In July 2013, |
12:15 |
chetty |
SatoshiDICE |
12:15 |
fluffypony |
much flood |
12:15 |
chetty |
bought back all outstanding SatoshiDICE sha |
12:15 |
chetty |
res from investors at a price of 0.0035 |
12:15 |
chetty |
bitcoins per share |
12:16 |
benkay |
oh chetty |
12:16 |
chetty |
, |
12:16 |
chetty |
for a total of 45,500 bitcoins |
12:16 |
chetty |
. |
12:16 |
benkay |
lol that comma |
12:16 |
chetty |
D |
12:16 |
chetty |
ue to the significant rise in the exchange rate of |
12:16 |
chetty |
b |
12:16 |
chetty |
itcoin, the total USD amount paid to investors in the SatoshiDICE buy |
12:16 |
chetty |
- |
12:16 |
chetty |
back transaction |
12:16 |
chetty |
(approximately $3.8 mil |
12:16 |
chetty |
lion) exceeded the total USD amount raised |
12:16 |
chetty |
oops sorry |
12:16 |
TomServo |
What kind of retarded clipboard you runnin' over there? |
12:16 |
chetty |
darn pdfs, anyway thats the SEC filing on Eric |
12:16 |
bitcoinpete |
fluffypony: http://www.coindesk.com/south-african-smart-meters-incorporate-bitcoin-prepaid-electricity/ you win! |
12:16 |
assbot |
Bitcoin Smart Meters Could Revolutionise How South Africans Pay for Power |
12:17 |
fluffypony |
bitcoinpete: nobody uses those fancy ones except in like brand new super-wealthy residential estates |
12:17 |
fluffypony |
we're still on post-paid |
12:18 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3980 @ 0.00080433 = 3.2012 BTC [+] |
12:18 |
bitcoinpete |
fluffypony: well, i just figured that with all the private jets... |
12:18 |
fluffypony |
lol |
12:18 |
fluffypony |
I like my electricity post-paid |
12:19 |
chetty |
paste bin isnt much better but for those non-pdf folks: http://pastebin.com/QDZhnsuh |
12:19 |
assbot |
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA Before the SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION SECU - Pastebin.com |
12:19 |
bitcoinpete |
like your womenz |
12:19 |
fluffypony |
bitcoinpete: exactly |
12:20 |
bitcoinpete |
and with that, i'm off for now. bbl fo sho |
12:20 |
nubbins` |
"The shares were listed on an entity known as the Global Bitcoin Stock Exchange (“GLBSE”), which purported to run a Bitcoin stock exchange." |
12:20 |
nubbins` |
lelel |
12:20 |
danielpbarron |
<+artifexd> So what are the "reasons that BTC is overwhelmingly white and male"? And why does "it matter"? << https://twitter.com/danielpbarron/status/473860965055078400 |
12:20 |
assbot |
The worst thing is there's actually a case to be made. But this is extraordinarily ignorant. http://t.co/BCWxgWZKLp /ARStrasser /Antiwar2 |
12:20 |
chetty |
The shares of SatoshiDICE were listed on MPEx, a |
12:20 |
chetty |
purported Bitcoin trading platform based in Romania |
12:21 |
mike_c |
who purported that? |
12:24 |
fluffypony |
the SEC couldn't get an official response because they're not in the WoT |
12:24 |
nubbins` |
[citation needed] |
12:24 |
nubbins` |
[who?] |
12:24 |
nubbins` |
etc |
12:24 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 62 @ 0.00351102 = 0.2177 BTC [+] |
12:24 |
chetty |
Respondent may pay by certified check, bank cashiers check, or United States postal |
12:24 |
chetty |
money order, made payable to the Securities and Exchange Commission and hand |
12:24 |
chetty |
- |
12:24 |
chetty |
delivered or mailed |
12:24 |
chetty |
to: |
12:24 |
chetty |
payment in USD not bitcoins |
12:24 |
nubbins` |
"hey guys, all i have is like 60k bitcoins... can i pay with these?" |
12:25 |
BCB |
http://www.sec.gov/News/PressRelease/Detail/PressRelease/1370541972520#.U432_vk7u-0 |
12:25 |
assbot |
SEC.gov | SEC Charges Bitcoin Entrepreneur With Offering Unregistered Securities |
12:26 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00080681 = 4.9215 BTC [+] |
12:26 |
chetty |
oh and he isn't allowed to play for 5 years |
12:26 |
fluffypony |
YOU'RE GROUNDED |
12:26 |
nubbins` |
"The SEC’s investigation was conducted by Daphna A. Waxman, Daphne P. Downes, and Philip R. Moustakis of the New York Regional Office. Ms Waxman's contribution was particularly unimpressive; she has left the SEC to pursue other ventures." |
12:26 |
artifexd |
danielpbarron: Thanks, but I just notice that conversation is over 3 months old. Probably a little late to get into it with her. |
12:28 |
danielpbarron |
artifexd, lol so what? this is twitter |
12:28 |
danielpbarron |
conversations can take place over any time period, between any number of individuals, and with any number of forks and sub-topics |
12:29 |
danielpbarron |
it's not stupid facebook where all replies are a big wall of tldr; under the original post |
12:29 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1199 @ 0.00012426 = 0.149 BTC [+] {2} |
12:30 |
princessnell |
danielpbarron she won't respond. she did write an addendum, though: http://bitcoinwoman.com/index.php/bit-woman/stories/126-bitcoin-s-actual-privilege-problems-by-cathy-reisenwitz |
12:30 |
assbot |
Bitcoins Actual Privilege Problems by Cathy Reisenwitz |
12:30 |
princessnell |
basically women can't code cause patriarchy and that's bad, mmkay |
12:31 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.02100011 = 0.21 BTC [-] |
12:33 |
benkay |
what a cloud war |
12:33 |
benkay |
my goodness |
12:33 |
bitstein |
Did she tell that to Ada Lovelace? |
12:33 |
benkay |
so a use case |
12:34 |
nubbins` |
i think the gist of that piece is "it behooves us all to get as many people as possible into bitcoin" |
12:34 |
benkay |
i have clients. they have applications and no employees running the applications. they have their own aws account, and their code gets provisioned onto that. |
12:34 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0738987 = 0.2217 BTC [-] |
12:34 |
nubbins` |
i'm not fully sure that that's a sound premise |
12:34 |
benkay |
but we're all derpy americans. |
12:35 |
chetty |
well women take absolute privilege - to never take responsibility and blame all on being women, or so they think |
12:35 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1403 @ 0.00016079 = 0.2256 BTC [+] {5} |
12:36 |
bitstein |
My issue is even if we were to assume that to be true, whining about it on Twitter and on blogs does nothing to solve the problem. If you want to address that, write software that makes Bitcoin easier to use and accessible to more people. If you can't code, learn a language and help translate. Essentially, do anything *but* whine on Twitter and your blog. |
12:36 |
pankkake |
it's weird to name yourself bitcoinwoman |
12:36 |
pankkake |
you're supposed to have a unique name |
12:36 |
pankkake |
there is only one bitcoin woman? |
12:36 |
pankkake |
well there is only one bitcoinpete |
12:36 |
TomServo |
wasn't there a wife too? |
12:36 |
pankkake |
other petes are forbidden from bitcoining |
12:37 |
TomServo |
thebitcoinwife.com |
12:37 |
princessnell |
nubbins' the gist of that piece is clickbait + feels |
12:37 |
bitstein |
There is "truebitcoingirl" - https://twitter.com/truebitcoingirl . princessnell is a phony. |
12:37 |
assbot |
Bitcoin Girl (TrueBitcoinGirl) auf Twitter |
12:37 |
chetty |
typical tard tho, blog and whine. Doing something takes work ya know |
12:37 |
princessnell |
pankkake there's a whole cottage industry of bitcoin lady #brands |
12:38 |
nubbins` |
i still think calling yourself "the bitcoin wife" is incredibly self-deprecating |
12:38 |
nubbins` |
but that's just me |
12:38 |
chetty |
and some of us (bitcoin women) are actually doing stuff even |
12:38 |
nubbins` |
^ |
12:39 |
jurov |
inb4 bitcoin grandma |
12:39 |
danielpbarron |
part of my argument comes from my belief in The Bible which clearly says that all women should submit to a man (whether their father or their husband) and they should only do something (like coding, for example) if their man ordered them to do so; it's not a very responsible man that delegates his programming needs to a woman (who is probably better suited for things like child-rearing (although exceptions may apply)) |
12:40 |
TomServo |
blowstampgrandma |
12:40 |
jurov |
(i can totally see something like that come from SA) |
12:40 |
pankkake |
I had no idea chetty was a bitcoin woman until a few weeks ago, which is how things should usually be on the internet |
12:40 |
pankkake |
nobody should know if you're a dog |
12:40 |
pankkake |
TomServo: lel |
12:40 |
princessnell |
i used to think to myself "well, these women are at least promoting the tech in a way that other women can understand." but they're only thinking of it as a consumption tool, which is worse than doing nothing at all. |
12:41 |
chetty |
well I don't make an issue of it, its not relevant |
12:42 |
nubbins` |
^ |
12:42 |
princessnell |
jurov http://bapka.com/grandma-bitcoin/ |
12:43 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1500 @ 0.0001914 = 0.2871 BTC [+] |
12:45 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 34 @ 0.02100011 = 0.714 BTC [-] |
12:45 |
jurov |
yup, polish bapka :) |
12:49 |
fluffypony |
I always figured this is pankkake - http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/disco-mann-4820691.jpg |
12:49 |
pankkake |
lol, not at all |
12:49 |
fluffypony |
:-P |
12:50 |
pankkake |
I am very boring looking |
12:50 |
fluffypony |
http://messynessychic.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/screen-shot-2011-04-05-at-04-23-43.png |
12:52 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6950 @ 0.00080681 = 5.6073 BTC [+] |
12:53 |
nubbins` |
i did a portrait of pankkake once |
12:53 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 87 @ 0.06220542 = 5.4119 BTC [-] {20} |
12:53 |
nubbins` |
forget where it ended up |
12:54 |
pankkake |
I didn't save it |
12:56 |
fluffypony |
pankkake: maybe BMF stands for "Backup My Funds" ? |
12:56 |
fluffypony |
:-P |
12:57 |
pankkake |
butt my fuck |
12:57 |
pankkake |
https://unsee.cc/mabozise/ for an actual drawing of me |
12:57 |
assbot |
Unsee — Free online private photo sharing |
12:58 |
fluffypony |
"draw me like one of your French girls" ? |
12:58 |
nubbins` |
^ |
12:58 |
nubbins` |
"rapper 50 cent accepts btc for new album; refuses to change name" |
12:58 |
pankkake |
he would have to change his name every week |
13:00 |
nubbins` |
nah man |
13:00 |
nubbins` |
think in btc |
13:00 |
nubbins` |
the usd/cad value fluctuates all the time, but we still call him 50 cent here |
13:01 |
pankkake |
fifty bits? fithy satoshi? |
13:03 |
pankkake |
;;ticker --market bitcoincentral --currency eur |
13:04 |
gribble |
Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR ticker | Best bid: 489.0, Best ask: 490.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.00000, Last trade: 489.0, 24 hour volume: 130.59839747, 24 hour low: 455.00021, 24 hour high: 489.0, 24 hour vwap: 476.29561153 |
13:09 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 4 @ 0.03019968 = 0.1208 BTC [+] |
13:13 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 30 @ 0.18334297 = 5.5003 BTC [-] {10} |
13:15 |
chetty |
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/277ohp/quick_statement_on_the_sec_erik_voorhees/ |
13:15 |
assbot |
Quick statement on the SEC - Erik Voorhees : Bitcoin |
13:19 |
fluffypony |
"Rune_And_You 0 points 4 minutes ago (1|0) |
13:19 |
fluffypony |
I think it's quite funny that a subreddit will end up becoming the center of the new financial reality. In a couple of years we'll have goldman sachs execs making sure to post all their bitcoin related announcements here. ;)" |
13:23 |
pankkake |
lol |
13:29 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.02100011 = 0.105 BTC [-] |
13:40 |
jurov |
wait what, sec officially posted the communique to reddit? |
13:43 |
fluffypony |
no |
13:43 |
fluffypony |
Erik did |
13:51 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19505 @ 0.00081801 = 15.9553 BTC [+] |
| |
~ 15 minutes ~ |
14:06 |
Naphex |
soo the sec investigators were named |
14:06 |
Naphex |
daphna and daphne? |
14:07 |
Naphex |
nice. |
14:08 |
moiety |
ya? well, I'm still CrazyBTCCatLady so no one forget that ok? |
14:08 |
Naphex |
http://www.sec.gov/News/PressRelease/Detail/PressRelease/1370541972520#.U44N5qX6irw |
14:08 |
assbot |
SEC.gov | SEC Charges Bitcoin Entrepreneur With Offering Unregistered Securities |
14:08 |
* |
moiety is reading the log btw |
14:09 |
moiety |
all these bitcoinwumins running around the place |
14:14 |
mike_c |
i don't know why everyone is so worried about women in bitcoin. the number of foreigners in bitcoin seems like a much bigger problem. |
14:15 |
xmj |
it does. |
14:15 |
xmj |
let's hate on all who do not reside in Luna Free Republic. |
14:16 |
Mats_cd03 |
lets skip to the part where bitcoiners use kinetic weapons against the surface |
14:17 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 14 @ 0.19842742 = 2.778 BTC [+] {6} |
14:17 |
benkay |
lets skip to the part where various bitcoiners have their own nukes |
14:17 |
benkay |
also i have 6 hours of driving today: audiobook suggestions? |
14:17 |
Mats_cd03 |
i like pimsleur if youre trying to listen to foreign language tapes |
14:18 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.19856332 = 0.5957 BTC [+] {2} |
14:18 |
jurov |
let's skip to the part where bitcoiners have personal drivers |
14:19 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4095 @ 0.00081801 = 3.3498 BTC [+] |
14:19 |
benkay |
<jurov> let's skip to the part where bitcoiners have personal drivers // sign my poor ass up |
14:26 |
moiety |
jurov: 1. can i skip the personal drive and just have a manul instead? 2. was it me you were looking for earlier? |
14:27 |
jurov |
moiety yes, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2014#699435 |
14:27 |
assbot |
#bitcoin-assets log |
14:29 |
moiety |
ah thanks jurov, i'm reading backwards, which hasn't turned out to be the best plan |
14:29 |
jurov |
and yes, i'm sure someone in russia will exchange nukes for manuls |
14:30 |
jurov |
or orbital platforms |
14:31 |
moiety |
totally fine! I'm sure i have a couple spare lying around |
14:31 |
Mats_cd03 |
is there anything you can't buy in russia |
14:34 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SF1] 589 @ 0.00046597 = 0.2745 BTC [-] {11} |
14:35 |
thestringpuller |
;;later tell nubbins` i misse you sorry |
14:35 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
14:35 |
thestringpuller |
fluffypony: usagi thinks I'm shit talking him here when all I'm doing is stating the obvious |
14:35 |
thestringpuller |
MPCD out performed NYAN |
14:36 |
thestringpuller |
MPCD.A wasn't even insured but lost no value |
14:37 |
moiety |
Mats_cd03: Putin's acceptance. |
14:43 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.199 BTC [+] |
14:44 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.07387999 = 0.5172 BTC [-] {3} |
14:44 |
midnightmagic |
our discussion centred on how you thought he was using a coinjoin'd transaction (re: "I taint the rich!" bitcointalk thread) to steal peoples' money or use the transaction as a historical proof that he had "access" to it in some form and thereby mislead less enlightened people for the purposes of loans or business shenanigans. |
14:45 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07389 = 0.2217 BTC [+] |
14:45 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.199 = 1.791 BTC [+] |
14:57 |
princessnell |
http://www.businessinsider.com/vital-named-to-board-2014-5 |
14:57 |
assbot |
VITAL Named To Board - Business Insider |
14:57 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.07389 = 0.7389 BTC [+] |
15:00 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.02100011 = 0.126 BTC [-] |
15:06 |
bitstein |
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2014/06/03/mastercoin-maidsafe-crowdsale/ |
15:06 |
assbot |
The First 'Bitcoin 2.0' Kickstarter-like Campaign Was A Wildly Successful $7 Million Disaster - Forbes |
15:07 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1000 @ 0.00030045 = 0.3005 BTC [+] {3} |
15:08 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 4402 @ 0.00030201 = 1.3294 BTC [+] {2} |
15:08 |
BingoBoingo |
xmj: mircea_popescu maybe revists his ignore list annually... |
15:09 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 17 @ 0.07389 = 1.2561 BTC [+] |
15:09 |
xmj |
Ok |
15:09 |
BingoBoingo |
xmj: I'm also contemplating dedicated hardware for a simple wordpress blog. |
15:09 |
xmj |
mutual plonking, then.. |
15:09 |
xmj |
BingoBoingo: I'm not saying dedicated is better, or virtualized is better. |
15:09 |
xmj |
I'm describing my experience with startups, and they do not care one iot about buying hardware if they can just rent/lease |
15:10 |
BingoBoingo |
xmj: Well, it is a little hard to weld a VPS shut before you drive it to the colo rack. |
15:10 |
xmj |
why would you drive to the colo rack :p |
15:11 |
xmj |
get a minion to do that for you. |
15:11 |
BingoBoingo |
xmj: You drive there yourself so you can see if the place is somewhere you can comfortably park a server. |
15:13 |
xmj |
yeah, that's what you do the first time.. |
15:13 |
mike_c |
%t |
15:13 |
atcbot |
[X-BT] Bid: 143 Ask: 185 Last Price: 143 24h-Vol: 144k High: 144 Low: 143 VWAP: 143 |
15:14 |
mike_c |
hey mod6, how come atcbot won't talk to me in query? |
15:14 |
BingoBoingo |
xmj: How many times do you need to replace well configured setups anyway? |
15:14 |
mod6 |
doesn't do priv chat |
15:15 |
xmj |
BingoBoingo: why replace when you can add :-) |
15:15 |
mike_c |
any reason? worried about spam or something? |
15:15 |
benkay |
http://www.mjfreeway.com/executive-team |
15:15 |
assbot |
Executive Team | MJ Freeway |
15:15 |
xmj |
BingoBoingo: seriously. i'm sure it's cheaper to have the server sent to the datacenter and hooked up by a technician |
15:15 |
Naphex |
is this the whole expensive thinking discussion again? |
15:15 |
Naphex |
its simple |
15:16 |
xmj |
no, this is opportunity costs and econ 101. |
15:16 |
BingoBoingo |
xmj: Why would adding happen at the same data center. "Rats Nest" is a perfectly defensible infrastructure strategy. |
15:16 |
Naphex |
if you need secure shit, or you want your data secure you don't use VPS |
15:16 |
Naphex |
period |
15:16 |
Naphex |
if you're working on any app that doesn't need that, host it wherever you like |
15:16 |
Naphex |
in ze cloud |
15:19 |
* |
BingoBoingo is thinking of Sun workstation case with rail kit, stuffed full of dev boards and ssds for "blog server", plastic stripped off, welded shut. |
15:19 |
Naphex |
sounds good! |
15:22 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 50 @ 0.07389913 = 3.695 BTC [+] {4} |
15:22 |
BingoBoingo |
Naphex: Basically, taking the "micro cloud" concept and adding a dash of shop class. Then when it's down to one functioning board and/or disk replacing the unit. |
15:24 |
mod6 |
mike_c: yeah, i think that was the reasoning. |
15:25 |
BingoBoingo |
%book |
15:25 |
atcbot |
40k@205 0k@200 10k@185 | 22k@143 100k@141 250k@140 |
15:26 |
mod6 |
mike_c: I'll add that to the list of stuff. I'll let you know. |
15:27 |
mike_c |
cool. thanks. didn't there used to be a way to get 30day vol? |
15:27 |
mod6 |
not that I remember... |
15:28 |
mike_c |
Apocalyptic: is 30day vol no longer available? or maybe it never was and i'm dreaming. |
15:28 |
BingoBoingo |
%diff |
15:28 |
atcbot |
[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 178842.38 Est. Next Diff: 768307.81 in 858 blocks (#34272) Est. % Change: 329.60 |
15:28 |
Apocalyptic |
mike_c, It never was |
15:29 |
mike_c |
ah, k. |
15:35 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 100 @ 0.02999995 = 3 BTC [+] {2} |
15:36 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.07398333 = 0.8878 BTC [+] {2} |
15:36 |
moiety |
fluffypony: http://www.macpages.ru/sites/default/files/img02/macosxsnowleorapd.jpg i think we can all see this is the way forward for mac people? |
15:37 |
fluffypony |
HAH AHAH AHAHAHA |
15:37 |
fluffypony |
omg that's brilliant |
15:37 |
Apocalyptic |
^ |
15:37 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.075 = 0.375 BTC [+] |
15:37 |
moiety |
:D i may need a bit of help from asciilifeform buti have a feeling it says "pet the OS, bitch" |
15:38 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 25 @ 0.07979516 = 1.9949 BTC [+] {3} |
15:39 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 85 @ 0.00184866 = 0.1571 BTC [+] |
15:39 |
BingoBoingo |
fluffypony: Is it just me or did Apple just rip of Xfce for Yosemite? |
15:40 |
fluffypony |
BingoBoingo: "you'll notice the gorgeous translucency on this window" |
15:41 |
BingoBoingo |
Oh, the logs. I'm catching up on. Looks like MP isn't getting extradited over S.DICE after all. |
15:41 |
fluffypony |
heh heh |
15:41 |
mike_c |
he didn't even have to kick in for the fine. |
15:41 |
BingoBoingo |
Erik got burned for using GLBSE, and... that's it |
15:42 |
Naphex |
https://imgur.com/a/Kj1oD so this is how a good scaled and tought out solution will look like if you planned stuff early |
15:42 |
assbot |
good scaled hardware - Imgur |
15:42 |
Naphex |
thats probably enough free space to scale for another 3 years |
15:42 |
Naphex |
while running nicely very fast and not on stressed hardware |
15:43 |
Naphex |
it will rape 2 days max of your time and insure you have a stable performant solution |
15:43 |
BingoBoingo |
Naphex: Let us not forget relaxed hardware lasts longer as well |
15:43 |
Naphex |
to serve those almighty precious customers |
15:43 |
Naphex |
the cost of that should be small enough for any decently running bussiness to aford |
15:43 |
Naphex |
and will have insanely higher reliability /performance then any cloud delivery |
15:47 |
Naphex |
https://i.imgur.com/YhddPNq.png a look on yearly average. peaks is attack and wall cliffs are optimizations |
15:49 |
BingoBoingo |
I still can't believe the SEC implicitly offered MPEx such a glowing endorsement today. |
15:50 |
diametric |
okay so i preordered this xapo. |
15:50 |
diametric |
someone tell me how terrible it is |
15:52 |
BingoBoingo |
diametric: Is that the one with the underground bunker? |
15:52 |
diametric |
The "Vault", yeah. |
15:52 |
diametric |
I should say I preordered the Xapo debit card wallet product. |
15:52 |
Naphex |
did they deliver? |
15:53 |
diametric |
Well, I just "pre-ordered" it now, though I have yet to deposit or pay for anything. |
15:54 |
diametric |
in fact, I got a whole 5k satoshis free with my account |
15:54 |
diametric |
i'm rolling in it now |
15:55 |
Naphex |
5k satoshis |
15:55 |
Naphex |
wow |
15:55 |
Naphex |
those like 2 free timely confirmations? |
15:56 |
diametric |
yeah! |
15:57 |
diametric |
I can get myself another 2K satoshis if I allow them these simple permissions to my Twitter: http://i.imgur.com/N6NmeAg.png |
15:57 |
Naphex |
why do they care about your twitter? |
15:57 |
diametric |
See the permissions it grants? they can basically spam as me. |
15:57 |
diametric |
As tempting as 2K SAT is, I'll pass. |
15:58 |
Naphex |
oh cool, so you don't already spam your friends about bitcoin? |
15:58 |
Naphex |
lol i gotta cheer up |
16:02 |
fluffypony |
"I can’t tell if the altcoin people are trying to deliberately scam people or just not thinking ahead to the logical conclusions of these schemes. They’re trying to hit another bubble. They regret not buying Bitcoin when they could have. So they want to replay it. It’s like replaying a childhood trauma to overcome it but you just make it worse." |
| |
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16:03 |
fluffypony |
that is my new favourite quote |
16:03 |
mike_c |
was that from pankkake? |
16:05 |
fluffypony |
no |
16:05 |
fluffypony |
Daniel Krawisz |
16:05 |
fluffypony |
the dude that wrote the "appcoins are fraudulent" article |
16:06 |
Naphex |
price needs to rise by bubbling up, to match demand though |
16:06 |
Naphex |
and too make the market available for bigger guys |
16:06 |
Naphex |
i want 100 mil of awesome bitcoins tomorrow |
16:10 |
moiety |
https://vine.co/v/M6hOQ9EJlQY |
16:10 |
assbot |
Dogs on Cinco De Mayo be like (Full version on my Instagram: moemamba) #salsa #cincodemayo |
16:10 |
pankkake |
well, it's the obvious. altcoiners want to be early adopters |
16:11 |
pankkake |
and altcoins are easier than time machines |
16:11 |
fluffypony |
;;gettrust assbot los_pantalones |
16:11 |
gribble |
WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user los_pantalones: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=los_pantalones | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=los_pantalones | Rated since: Thu Apr 24 17:43:40 2014 |
16:11 |
moiety |
jurov: are you guys really wanting me to call missouri?! |
16:12 |
BingoBoingo |
moiety: I believe so. |
16:12 |
pankkake |
who's missouri? |
16:12 |
moiety |
thought i had best check before doing it and you allbeing like, nooooo! |
16:12 |
BingoBoingo |
moiety: Just make sure to call from -assets hotline |
16:12 |
jurov |
moiety why not? |
16:13 |
fluffypony |
moiety: I loaded funds into Skype so you can call out as well as receive calls |
16:13 |
Naphex |
you guys want to hear something funny, youtube is probably the best place to advertise to engage bitcoin related / seeking audience ;o |
16:13 |
Naphex |
i am surprised |
16:16 |
moiety |
anything specific anyone wants me to say? |
16:16 |
thestringpuller |
sex weeks |
16:16 |
fluffypony |
seconded |
16:17 |
moiety |
lol i can't say that |
16:18 |
moiety |
ok i'll try and work it in |
16:18 |
fluffypony |
hah hah |
16:18 |
jurov |
say you;re interested about mpex stock exchange |
16:18 |
jurov |
if it's legal, if it should be reported to irs |
16:19 |
* |
moiety nods :] |
16:19 |
moiety |
can i finish with something about manuls? |
16:19 |
moiety |
kidding!! |
16:20 |
jurov |
if they start to be chatty, feel free :) |
16:20 |
jurov |
oh and if they know where else one can invest bitcoins in accord to all regulations and proper |
16:22 |
BingoBoingo |
moiety: Tell them you are looking forward to football this season and finish with a chant of M-I-Z. They should respond with Z-O-U. If they don't offer that response it is a reportable offense. |
16:23 |
BingoBoingo |
Also feel free to discuss any mutual dislike you and the corresponding party might share about Kansas (Quantrill should have burned it all). |
16:28 |
fluffypony |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=591114.msg7093916#msg7093916 |
16:28 |
assbot |
[ANN] [NAUT] Nautiluscoin - First Coin w/Stabilization Fund - Digishield |
16:28 |
fluffypony |
"Step 1. Build a Community. Step 2: Merchant Acceptance. Step 3: Oh, this is where we hire developers." |
16:29 |
pankkake |
stabilization fund :| |
16:29 |
fluffypony |
pankkake: I'll have you know, it was created by a CNBC contributor, so therefore. |
16:30 |
mike_c |
Altcoin is the best altcoin because the core dev hates altcoins. |
16:31 |
fluffypony |
SEE the power of the stabilisation fund: https://www.mintpal.com/market/NAUT/BTC |
16:31 |
fluffypony |
switch to Max zoom |
16:31 |
fluffypony |
and you can see how perfectly stable it is |
16:33 |
punkman |
that's a lot of log today |
16:33 |
punkman |
hello |
16:33 |
punkman |
mike_c: altcoin has a core dev? |
16:34 |
mike_c |
yes, but he won't admit to it (pankkake) |
16:34 |
pankkake |
call it a guy who made commits |
16:34 |
pankkake |
I'm Bernankoin's core dev though |
16:35 |
penguirker |
New blog post: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/06/03/the-sec-bares-its-gums-and-settles-with-erik/ |
16:37 |
punkman |
%diff |
16:37 |
atcbot |
[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 178842.38 Est. Next Diff: 780964.62 in 803 blocks (#34272) Est. % Change: 336.68 |
16:38 |
BingoBoingo |
http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&type=submission&id=3602771 |
16:38 |
assbot |
Bitcoin Securities Issuer Settles with SEC - Slashdot |
16:40 |
BingoBoingo |
Fuck it, might as well try this again. Got to beat Coindesk et al on this subject. |
16:41 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.18305816 BTC [-] |
16:41 |
jurov |
<Naphex> youtube - sauce? |
16:42 |
Naphex |
jurov: adwords/analytics for btcxchange.ro |
16:42 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 29 @ 0.18084523 = 5.2445 BTC [-] {15} |
16:42 |
jurov |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEtsPfQtjW8 from this or some other vid? |
16:42 |
assbot |
Cumpr Bitcoin prin intermediul btcXchange - YouTube |
16:43 |
Naphex |
jurov: no, google placement ads |
16:43 |
jurov |
hm interesting |
16:44 |
Naphex |
a lot of interest in tutorial videos |
16:44 |
Naphex |
so easy to engage audience |
16:44 |
Naphex |
miners will look for miners, etc |
16:44 |
Naphex |
also it is relativly cheap at 0.14eur/click |
16:44 |
los_pantalones |
yeah! |
16:44 |
BingoBoingo |
https://twitter.com/BBoingo/status/473928096324665344 |
16:44 |
assbot |
Trying this again, been a while http://t.co/EaicbSjV6f /hashtag/Bitcoin?src=hash |
16:45 |
diametric |
jurov: http://micropython.org/ re: the conversation yesterday. is only there had been a lisp machine like this |
16:45 |
assbot |
Micro Python - Python for microcontrollers |
16:46 |
jurov |
nah, trabant |
16:46 |
BingoBoingo |
diametric: Why did they just go for a board and not a workstation? |
16:47 |
jurov |
BingoBoingo: you prolly don't understand the appeal of such tiny machines |
16:48 |
jurov |
people want to do things on rpi just coz it's cute |
16:48 |
BingoBoingo |
jurov: Tiny machines exist only to assemble into large machines. Tiny machines are to easy to lose. |
16:48 |
BingoBoingo |
They get buried under large machines. |
16:49 |
jurov |
i was like "bitcoind node? onoes, just buy miniitx celeron and reuse old hdd" |
16:49 |
jurov |
they were like "but i must do it on piiii" |
16:51 |
jurov |
tinkerers and people who know how to do things right are such incredibly disjoint groups |
16:51 |
BingoBoingo |
Pi ought to be thing real computers eat. |
16:51 |
jurov |
that manu of the former never learn about the latter |
16:51 |
jurov |
*many |
16:53 |
jurov |
i'm not sure if it is similar on non-IT hobbies (maybe except audiophiles) |
16:57 |
BingoBoingo |
If Pi wasn't ARM, it might be a decent upgrade for a compact Mac case, but not much else |
17:00 |
jurov |
Tiny machines are to easy to lose. << your btc wallet is a semitrailer i guess? |
17:01 |
BingoBoingo |
jurov: One possibility. Other is maybe a controlled form of lost |
17:05 |
BingoBoingo |
jurov: Also who said anything about wallet being a machine? |
17:06 |
jurov |
paper wallet shouldn't be easy to lose either |
17:06 |
* |
jurov imagines stone megalith wallet |
17:07 |
BingoBoingo |
Maybe stone, maybe paper, maybe vintage green uranium glass used for consuming whiskey on special occasions... |
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~ 18 minutes ~ |
17:25 |
BingoBoingo |
moiety: When your phone call is over http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/06/03/the-problem-with-apple/ has Manul |
17:25 |
assbot |
The Problem with Apple | Bingo Blog |
17:36 |
Mats_cd03 |
;;bc,stats |
17:36 |
gribble |
Current Blocks: 304076 | Current Difficulty: 1.0455720138484837E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 304415 | Next Difficulty In: 339 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 23 hours, 1 minute, and 44 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 11657191762.4 | Estimated Percent Change: 11.49105 |
17:37 |
BingoBoingo |
And the last two days "No" on Bastille Day got very dangerous again. |
17:38 |
Mats_cd03 |
;;ticker |
17:38 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 668.57, Best ask: 670.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.43000, Last trade: 670.0, 24 hour volume: 17618.68361236, 24 hour low: 649.61, 24 hour high: 680.99, 24 hour vwap: 665.876747446 |
17:38 |
mike_c |
big spike in nethash last couple hundred blocks |
17:40 |
BingoBoingo |
I'm hoping Knc, "board can have problems too" kind of nethash |
17:42 |
mike_c |
it is truly amazing how it keeps doubling |
17:42 |
assbot |
AMAZING COMPANY! |
17:44 |
mike_c |
x.idiff.jun could be at management's discretion.. next diff bump may well be on settlement day. |
17:52 |
BingoBoingo |
;;ticker --market all |
17:52 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 667.1, vol: 17537.18824609 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 656.0, vol: 10303.8218 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 668.0, vol: 25046.49650475 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 679.9, vol: 43.63450786 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 663.895206, vol: 6963.03280000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 668.40406, vol: 19.58697317 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 667.772, vol: 112.92914708 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message) |
17:52 |
BingoBoingo |
;;more |
17:52 |
gribble |
665.209412526 |
17:55 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0205 = 0.1025 BTC [-] |
17:55 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.19753357 = 0.7901 BTC [+] {2} |
17:56 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.19957174 = 1.1974 BTC [+] {4} |
17:56 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 60 @ 0.00186777 = 0.1121 BTC [+] |
18:00 |
BingoBoingo |
https://twitter.com/taosecurity/status/473938787106430976 |
18:00 |
assbot |
If DARPA had insurgents fire anti-tank weapons at the autonomous vehicles in their land challenge, it would give them an idea about /hashtag/cyber?src=hash. |
18:02 |
BingoBoingo |
From ozbot in exile https://gs1.wac.edgecastcdn.net/8019B6/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdpwmewdyk1r1z9vzo1_1280.jpg |
18:03 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.0235103 = 0.2351 BTC [-] |
18:04 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 14 @ 0.0235102 = 0.3291 BTC [-] |
18:04 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 14 @ 0.02026 = 0.2836 BTC [-] |
18:05 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07000211 = 0.14 BTC [+] {2} |
18:06 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 123 @ 0.02026 = 2.492 BTC [-] {4} |
18:07 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20000 @ 0.00086158 = 17.2316 BTC [-] {2} |
18:07 |
BingoBoingo |
http://www.gomerblog.com/2014/06/lifestyle-modified/ |
18:07 |
assbot |
Patient's Modified Lifestyle Kills Doctor | Medical Satire - GomerBlog |
18:08 |
BingoBoingo |
^ The story of -assets |
18:09 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20150 @ 0.00085865 = 17.3018 BTC [-] {2} |
| |
~ 20 minutes ~ |
18:29 |
moiety |
D; they won't answer to meeeee |
18:30 |
moiety |
but i did realise i'm probably not within their hours now, will try again tomorrow |
18:30 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 11 @ 0.0235102 = 0.2586 BTC [-] |
18:32 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: the 'pi' would be neat if it actually... worked. (entirely aside from the evil closed blob running at all times.) try, for instance, using ethernet and usb at full throttle on your unit, see what happens. |
18:33 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 11 @ 0.0205 = 0.2255 BTC [+] {3} |
18:34 |
moiety |
BingoBoingo!! most epic blog post is epic! I'm reposting! |
18:35 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: i've a small collection of various cheapo 'arm' boards, just like everyone. the 'pi' collects dust. did recently get openbsd running on another one (beagle?) recently. |
18:36 |
Mats_cd03 |
cool |
18:36 |
asciilifeform |
still quite useless - they all have ridiculously slow bus |
18:37 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.021 = 0.21 BTC [+] {2} |
18:37 |
asciilifeform |
'real' microcontrollers are far more interesting. the proliferation of the cheap arm boards is really because today's hobbyists piss their pants at the thought of learning asm |
18:38 |
jurov |
i'm using pi just as an illustration that people you may want to get interested in lisp start by getting emotionally hooked onto coding, regardless of what's available being utter crap |
18:38 |
asciilifeform |
(a 'traditional' micro has a few kb of ram) |
18:38 |
jurov |
and then continue on the trajectory, never even getting to know there's something better |
18:40 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: clisp builds on arm. but sbcl doesn't (the latter has no interpreter mode, it has a high quality optimizing - real time - compiler on x86 and a few other archs.) |
18:41 |
asciilifeform |
lisp on a microcontroller that isn't optimized for high-level languages (a la the greenarrays forth chip) isn't much fun. it's like going back to the mid-80s, when microcomputer owners justifiably scoffed at 'slow' languages |
18:42 |
jurov |
python isn't either |
18:42 |
asciilifeform |
the python linked earlier (diametric?) isn't a proper python, where the interpreter is available at run time, but, as i understand, a simple batch-mode compiler. |
18:42 |
asciilifeform |
(anyone who read the entire manual, please correct me if i am mistaken) |
18:43 |
jurov |
idk, it boasts "REPL in 2K RAM" |
18:44 |
jurov |
but this discussion is getting derailed again anyway |
18:44 |
asciilifeform |
if they actually fit a python in 2kb, that's pretty neat. |
18:47 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07966853 = 0.239 BTC [+] |
18:48 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo, jurov: stone megalith wallet << if you buy a laser cutter, you can make actual stone wallet. |
18:48 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Traditional "bastard" file cuts stone well enough |
18:48 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: that sounds too much like work |
18:49 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Not if you carve in a shorthand |
18:49 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 62 @ 0.07969954 = 4.9414 BTC [+] {2} |
18:49 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8422 @ 0.0008571 = 7.2185 BTC [-] |
18:51 |
* |
punkman is thinking 1BTC coins made of 10kg marble slabs |
18:51 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07979979 = 0.2394 BTC [+] |
18:52 |
BingoBoingo |
moiety: You have to remember you have blog too nao. |
18:52 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.07979984 = 0.3192 BTC [+] {2} |
18:53 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: i don't really get the fixation with 'physical bitcoins.' care to try explaining ? |
18:53 |
asciilifeform |
it inescapably reminds me of the 1890s autos with reins |
18:53 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0799 = 0.3995 BTC [+] |
18:55 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: I'm not too sure about it either. I like the idea that they mean an intruder would have to scour my junk in addition to the computing and electronic equipment. People who pay for manufactered solutions and their reasoning elludes me. Maybe the husk of a Cascius has some collectible value? |
18:56 |
dub |
similar(ly stupid) ideas about spending them after fiat collapses as metals probably, libertardation |
18:56 |
BingoBoingo |
Any thing physical I may or may not do with individual private keys would probably be part of a rats nest strategy to avoid ever being completely robbed. |
18:57 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: this is not unlike the psychology of the folks who buy books on 'how to hide things' |
18:57 |
asciilifeform |
(which, if read literally, amount to a 'what not to do') |
18:57 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.08 = 0.16 BTC [+] {2} |
18:57 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.0008571 = 6.7711 BTC [-] |
18:59 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Seems that way. I dunno why properly concealed physically stored private key could not be a viable option for the post-rectothermal healthcare fund. |
19:00 |
mike_c |
would not rectothermal analysis provide the location of the stored key? |
19:00 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: the typical rectothermal session involves separation from one's worldly goods |
19:00 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00085673 = 4.2837 BTC [-] {2} |
19:00 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: No reason physical key of last resort need be within a hundred miles of anywhere you live or frequent |
19:01 |
BingoBoingo |
if properly concealed |
19:03 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.08 = 0.16 BTC [+] |
19:05 |
BingoBoingo |
New risks of loss are introduced, but... The scenario in which it would be useful is different as well. |
19:06 |
jurov |
http://mivoltma.444.hu/assets/sites/23/2014/05/kuczynskigif1-animated.gif |
19:07 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 25 @ 0.02109458 = 0.5274 BTC [+] {8} |
19:08 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: seems to me like the physical hiding place approach suffers from the same problems as 'brainwallet.' |
19:08 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29400 @ 0.00086456 = 25.4181 BTC [+] {2} |
19:09 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Definitely in terms of "wallet mining" |
19:10 |
asciilifeform |
a successfully 'mined' brainwallet is... a failed iq test. |
| |
↖ |
19:12 |
BingoBoingo |
And then there's also the problem of "place can have problems too" |
19:13 |
asciilifeform |
if herr torquemada is working on you, your wallet is lost, regardless of what kind (only real countermeasure is cyanide tooth or the like.) |
19:16 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Tooth must be dangerously fragile though, so one can have a standoff end with a swift movement of the tongue. |
19:16 |
asciilifeform |
actually, one possible technological countermeasure is: to carry around some gizmo that will transmit a transaction moving your coin to a trusted confederate, when the pin is pulled. |
19:17 |
asciilifeform |
easier said than done, though. |
19:19 |
asciilifeform |
(if you actually want to do this: have multiple allies, shamir-split a key, then set 'dead man switch' that broadcasts the magic tx if you fail to reset it for x days, etc) |
19:27 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [+] |
19:27 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Even if that isn't what's actually done, that may be the best thing to have people believe is being done. |
19:28 |
asciilifeform |
[insert standard discussion of the game theory of nuclear war by schelling & friends here.] |
19:29 |
moiety |
BingoBoingo: moiety: You have to remember you have blog too nao. << it's not mine though, I might start one, i'm seeing more things all the time i'd like to collate together |
19:30 |
asciilifeform |
i'll point out that it helps to have a clear picture of what your objective will be once you're hanging upside-down in torquemada's workshop. |
19:30 |
asciilifeform |
is it to persuade him to turn you loose? to transfer your coin to your fellow partizans asap, because you are certain to perish anyway? some other goal? |
19:31 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Reasonable option seems to be dead man switch sends the coins to Mugabe |
19:32 |
asciilifeform |
the 'only winning move,' of course, is 'not to play' - reducing your chances of ending up in that position in the first place, through convincing deterrent (or quick legs!) |
19:32 |
jurov |
turnig yourself in preventively to the right party |
19:33 |
asciilifeform |
the fine art of surrender. |
19:33 |
asciilifeform |
[insert obligatory barb at the french here] |
19:34 |
BingoBoingo |
You die, coins go to party inquisitor finds despicable. Simply hope the CIA isn't a frenemy of theirs and wants to fund them. |
19:34 |
asciilifeform |
there's definitely room for a 'dead hand' service/product. |
19:35 |
asciilifeform |
;;google dead hand |
19:35 |
gribble |
Dead Hand (nuclear war) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Hand_(nuclear_war)>; Dead Hand - Zelda Wiki: <http://zeldawiki.org/Dead_Hand>; Inside the Apocalyptic Soviet Doomsday Machine - Wired: <http://www.wired.com/politics/security/magazine/17-10/mf_deadhand?currentPage=all> |
19:35 |
BingoBoingo |
There's also the possiblity of multiple inquistors over time. |
19:35 |
BingoBoingo |
With varying aims. |
19:35 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12631 @ 0.00086494 = 10.9251 BTC [+] |
19:36 |
punkman |
asciilifeform: you mean like this? http://www.deadmansswitch.net/ |
19:36 |
assbot |
Dead Man's Switch |
19:36 |
* |
asciilifeform automatically recalls an ancient sf story about a very unlucky immortal fellow, who goes from dungeon to dungeon, ending up at torquemada's, the gestapo, on and on... |
19:37 |
jurov |
BingoBoingo you're preparing for the PARC or whatever colombia revolutionary movement encounter? |
19:38 |
BingoBoingo |
jurov: Not impossible that I am. |
19:38 |
* |
BingoBoingo should probably practice running |
19:38 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.04954094 = 0.1486 BTC [-] |
19:38 |
jurov |
i'm not sure they'll understand fine points of such complicated strategy as "i die, money goes to cia" |
19:39 |
jurov |
"okay, we'll use your corpse to extort cia" |
19:39 |
asciilifeform |
think of how funny it'd be, setting up elaborate dead man switch, then captured by a fellow who just wants to sell your organs. |
19:41 |
jurov |
or slipping up home in the bathroom |
19:42 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: I think at that point you have to play the Hannibal card and try purchasing organs yourself. |
19:42 |
BingoBoingo |
I'm also rather sure my organs aren't the sort to fetch top dollar |
19:42 |
asciilifeform |
deterrence weapon naturally doesn't make you immortal - the best possible use of it is to cool the enthusiasm of folks who'd like to hasten the inevitable. |
19:45 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: There was this Simpsons episode back in the day where it was revealed the elderly hero had the gift of immortality to the sheer number of terminal diseases he had forming a sort of homeostasis sustaining him. |
19:45 |
asciilifeform |
my organs aren't the sort to fetch top dollar << the 'i own just the shirt on my back' defense worked pretty well historically. if the enemy finds it convincing. |
19:46 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: I'll have to manage to keep a thick stench of cigarettes and booze sweat through the Darien. |
19:48 |
asciilifeform |
however, the reason why it is customary to sit a captured wretch on an anthill, or the like, without first inquiring about his assets, is that in such a situation the definition of 'assets' expands to everything the victim could potentially beg/borrow/steal |
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19:48 |
asciilifeform |
as described in an old book, 'how to collect illegal debts' (actual title) |
19:48 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.0202522 = 0.2025 BTC [-] {2} |
19:49 |
moiety |
asciilifeform: there's more music! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAP0h9Yl_hc // also, I have been playing with the microwriter emulator :D |
19:49 |
assbot |
- YouTube |
19:49 |
BingoBoingo |
I'd suck if they sent me back to 'Murica full of cocaine baloons |
19:50 |
moiety |
here, booze sweat is just a beer jacket: keeps you warm but it's not warm enough to sweat |
19:51 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: in the textbook 'rectothermal cryptoanalysis' of '90s russia, the purpose of the soldering iron was typically to help the 'patient'... 'remember' not only the locations of hidden goodies, but also places where he might yet be able to borrow/steal. |
19:52 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Assuming they don't want library books... Probably going to get drafted as a drug mule. |
19:53 |
asciilifeform |
i'd assume that a 'mule' gets an (unarmed) 'helper,' who ensures that he can't cough up the payload ahead of schedule. |
19:55 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: I'd assume so as well. Probably also a reception party. |
19:57 |
BingoBoingo |
bitcoinpete: Help spread the love http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&type=submission&id=3602771 |
19:57 |
assbot |
Bitcoin Securities Issuer Settles with SEC - Slashdot |
20:00 |
asciilifeform |
moiety: the emulator is a very ragged toy. the actual gadget works considerably better. |
20:01 |
asciilifeform |
at some point i'll get around to selling the actual microwriter |
20:01 |
asciilifeform |
(not much use for it here) |
20:01 |
bitcoinpete |
BingoBoingo: https://twitter.com/bitcoinpete/status/473977662294081537 |
20:01 |
assbot |
SEC, Voorhees, etc. http://t.co/AZIAh29FsN via /BBoingo |
20:02 |
BingoBoingo |
bitcoinpete: Thanks. Got to beat Coindesk to the aggragators |
20:02 |
BingoBoingo |
moiety: I'm guessing you aren't familiar serious humidity. |
20:03 |
bitcoinpete |
np |
20:04 |
BingoBoingo |
bitcoinpete: You seem to have the stronger social media presence |
20:05 |
asciilifeform |
taking joy in having 'strong social media presence' would be rather like rejoicing in living next to a swamp, to have 'strong mosquito presence' |
20:06 |
bitcoinpete |
BingoBoingo: lol seem? i'm happy to help :) |
20:06 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: It isn't that there is benefit derived from it. It is that when we can beat the Coindesks to the aggregators, it injures them in ways only they can rationalize. |
20:07 |
BingoBoingo |
bitcoinpete: Well, I'm gifting you that Canadian modesty. |
20:08 |
bitcoinpete |
asciilifeform: there's most certainly benefit derived from twitter and west nile isn't the half of it |
20:08 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: the buggers' traditional defense is to pretend that the event was a non-event - or, if this is impractical, to continue living in an imaginary world where they 'scooped' the story first, and all of the 'unsanctioned' discussion never happened. |
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20:08 |
bitcoinpete |
not saying it's much of a benefit… just non-zero |
20:09 |
asciilifeform |
think back to the purpose of the phoundation. |
20:10 |
asciilifeform |
or the myriad 'tame' seekoority blogs, which studiously avoid mention of nsa, etc. |
20:11 |
moiety |
BingoBoingo: not really, I don't think thailand for a fortnight, hopping from aircon to aircon counts lol |
20:12 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: I remember that time quite a while back when, maybe it was accident on your part, but you loosened the anus's of the various Apple Occultists with your hypercard post. |
20:12 |
* |
BingoBoingo realized this week he had indeed run into Loper well before -assets |
20:13 |
BingoBoingo |
Digging through archives I found hypercard setup VM exactly as asciilifeform described |
20:14 |
moiety |
asciilifeform: what should a microwriter cost now (approx)? |
20:21 |
asciilifeform |
moiety: no clue. got mine on ebay a few yrs back for about 100 usd |
20:21 |
asciilifeform |
moiety: it's rare enough that there is no ready source for it |
20:22 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: loosened the anus's of the various Apple Occultists << that might've been 'non-apple's mistake' |
20:24 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Well, the VM's name was one of the library school classes, so maybe I did the loosening during a presentation in a technology class. |
20:24 |
moiety |
you get modern usb ones :o i think the older ones look nicer though.definitely one for the collection |
20:25 |
BingoBoingo |
This was a crowd of the sort where "technology"=="social media" |
20:25 |
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Bet placed: 1.5 BTC for No on "Bitcoin over $1000 before September" http://bitbet.us/bet/866/ Odds: 57(Y):43(N) by coin, 58(Y):42(N) by weight. Total bet: 7.02379439 BTC. Current weight: 90,188. |
20:25 |
nubbins` |
BingoBoingo: i actually had wondered why $15k plus damages -- didn't realize until you pointed out that they didn't touch s.dice |
20:25 |
nubbins` |
ty |
20:26 |
BingoBoingo |
nubbins`: You're welcome. I mean the summaries suck when the ignore the SEC's endorsement of MPEx in the actual filing. |
20:26 |
nubbins` |
well, you're one upvote closer to the front page |
20:27 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00086494 = 4.5842 BTC [+] |
20:27 |
* |
BingoBoingo remembers the project as "present what three vendors have in the way of tools for advancing technology education" |
20:30 |
* |
BingoBoingo presented OS 7.5.1 with Hypercard, lynx, and Sun Ultra 80. |
20:30 |
bloctoc |
Financial Times has a paragraph today on mpex, alongside the SEC story on Erik Vorhees. |
20:30 |
nubbins` |
link? |
20:30 |
nubbins` |
this is actually hilariously epic |
20:31 |
nubbins` |
mp tells the sec to get stuffed, they shrug and then do exactly that |
20:31 |
bloctoc |
probably won't work, but here goes: |
20:31 |
bloctoc |
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/d918d732-eb33-11e3-8a5f-00144feabdc0.html?siteedition=intl#axzz33cnsgN8s |
20:31 |
assbot |
Financial Times | Error | Akamai Error |
20:31 |
BingoBoingo |
bloctoc: Paste? |
20:32 |
moiety |
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/d918d732-eb33-11e3-8a5f-00144feabdc0.html |
20:32 |
assbot |
Financial Times | Error | Akamai Error |
20:32 |
moiety |
whyyyy |
20:32 |
bloctoc |
can you yokels not afford FT subscription? |
20:32 |
nubbins` |
it's more a case of not being interested in supporting a paywall |
20:32 |
BingoBoingo |
bloctoc: Not can't afford. Can't conscience sending them money. |
20:33 |
BingoBoingo |
They aren't in my WoT |
20:34 |
bloctoc |
that may change. FT didn't mention the price or say btc is tulip, ponzi, scam. They're usually pretty abusive. |
20:35 |
bloctoc |
High quality global journalism requires investment. Please share this article with others using the link below, do not cut & paste the article. See our Ts&Cs and Copyright Policy for more detail. Email ftsales.support@ft.com to buy additional rights. http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/d918d732-eb33-11e3-8a5f-00144feabdc0.html#ixzz33cqGlqoz |
20:35 |
assbot |
Financial Times | Error | Akamai Error |
20:35 |
bloctoc |
A number of Bitcoin enthusiasts have been drawn to trading in shares of virtual currency companies, or other financial instruments such as Bitcoin derivatives, traded in Bitcoin on unregulated websites. MPex, the Romanian exchange where SatoshiDice used to trade, currently lists four stocks, one fund and five derivatives for trading. |
20:35 |
bloctoc |
was that paywall too? |
20:36 |
BingoBoingo |
bloctoc: yeah, they are writing out their possibility of being in my WoT with the inane engineering of their paywall |
20:37 |
nubbins` |
hahahah |
20:37 |
nubbins` |
bloctoc, view source |
20:37 |
nubbins` |
those bastards |
20:37 |
nubbins` |
i'll never give them money now |
20:37 |
bloctoc |
put me in your wot and I'll pm you |
20:37 |
nubbins` |
but i don't trust you D: |
20:38 |
bloctoc |
what? I'm a great guy! |
20:39 |
BingoBoingo |
bloctoc: Have you even looked at ft.com on lynx if you reject cookies? |
20:40 |
bloctoc |
that doesn't sound even remotely fun. |
20:40 |
nubbins` |
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-motorist-accused-in-two-deaths-said-she-was-helping-ducks-1.2663840 |
20:40 |
assbot |
Quebec motorist accused in two deaths said she was helping ducks - Montreal - CBC News |
20:40 |
mike_c |
http://www.dpaste.com/2FV2RAW/#wrap |
20:40 |
assbot |
dpaste: 2FV2RAW |
20:41 |
mike_c |
^ ft article |
20:42 |
BingoBoingo |
;;rate mike_c 3 liberator, analytic, numerical enforcer of honesty |
20:42 |
gribble |
Rating entry successful. Your rating of 3 for user mike_c has been recorded. |
20:42 |
mike_c |
grazie |
20:43 |
BingoBoingo |
mike_c: I'm not sure, but I think I just changed the text |
20:44 |
BingoBoingo |
;;rate asciilifeform 4 Realized I've been using his writings longer than I remembered |
20:44 |
gribble |
Rating entry successful. Your rating for user asciilifeform has changed from 2 to 4. |
20:44 |
moiety |
Paste of FT.com article for anyone wanting it: http://justpaste.it/030614 |
20:44 |
assbot |
Bitcoin business owner fined by SEC over share sales By... - justpaste.it |
20:44 |
moiety |
ah i'm too slow mike_c XD |
20:46 |
mike_c |
yours has nicer fonts though. |
20:47 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00086541 = 4.7598 BTC [+] |
20:48 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00086559 = 11.3392 BTC [+] |
20:48 |
bloctoc |
did satoshi dice really raise 10 million BTC? |
20:49 |
bloctoc |
with a 100 Million BTC valuation? |
20:49 |
bloctoc |
seems almost impossible |
20:50 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.2 = 0.4 BTC [+] |
20:50 |
nubbins` |
things were different back then |
20:51 |
mike_c |
that is still impossible. that would have been, what, ALL the btc? |
20:51 |
bloctoc |
there was a cap of 21 million btc back then |
20:51 |
bloctoc |
I think 100 million is all the doge |
20:52 |
mike_c |
nobody would have been able to play :) |
20:52 |
BingoBoingo |
bloctoc: I thought circulating Doge was in the Billions, either tens or hundreds of |
20:52 |
nubbins` |
wait, "back then"? |
20:56 |
bloctoc |
nubbins I'm saying the important things haven't changed since back then. |
20:58 |
nubbins` |
ah |
21:00 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.2 = 1 BTC [+] |
21:04 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4263 @ 0.00008018 = 0.3418 BTC [-] {8} |
21:06 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5139 @ 0.00007993 = 0.4108 BTC [-] {2} |
21:09 |
mike_c |
lol. wikipedia is not as creative as us. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber-hose_cryptanalysis |
21:09 |
assbot |
Rubber-hose cryptanalysis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
21:11 |
mike_c |
it's funny how many google queries lead back to stan |
21:11 |
mike_c |
;;google rectothermal cryptanalysis |
21:11 |
gribble |
Schneier on Security: Rubber-Hose Cryptanalysis: <https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2008/10/rubber_hose_cry.html>; Loper OS » Practical Cryptoanalysis of Elliptic Curve DSA.: <http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1061>; Cryptanalysis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptanalysis> |
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21:16 |
asciilifeform |
mike_c: searched for schematics of constant voltage transformer last night, in 'google images', ended up getting this - http://www.maxfarquar.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Oh-Fuck.png |
21:17 |
asciilifeform |
on account of it being in kako's channel log! |
21:17 |
mike_c |
i saw that earlier. cracks me up :) |
21:18 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: See this linking and getting linked thing is insidious... |
21:18 |
asciilifeform |
and then had a colleague look up 'dec alpha' machine, in same search, and he got... an old post of mine. |
21:18 |
asciilifeform |
surely i'm not the only person to post a picture of dec alpha. |
21:18 |
asciilifeform |
conclusion, is, inescapably, that google sucks. but this isn't a discovery. |
21:19 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44319 @ 0.00086494 = 38.3333 BTC [-] |
21:19 |
BingoBoingo |
I wonder if Oreilly would actually commision that title though. I'd buy it. |
21:19 |
mike_c |
it's like democracy. the worst except for the alternatives. |
21:19 |
asciilifeform |
i sort of suspect that google tries to feed people their own shit deliberately - by ip block if possible, or by relational inference of some form if not |
21:20 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: That it does |
21:21 |
mike_c |
damn, jd had a good day. |
21:21 |
mike_c |
!jd mpif |
21:21 |
assbot |
Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 167.34645873 BTC; +0.36335907 BTC (+0.2176%) since last check 1d 3h 29m 42s ago. |
21:21 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo, moiety: i didn't know vorhees might've been a spammer. is the accusation true? |
21:21 |
asciilifeform |
i.e. 'paid users in virtual currency when they retweeted promotional material on Twitter.' |
21:22 |
mike_c |
line between a marketer and a spammer is thin. |
21:22 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: It's basically what FeedZeBirds was |
21:23 |
asciilifeform |
damn, i was hoping it was a cruel lie. |
21:23 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Dunno what it really did. I think he bought it second or third hand |
21:24 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: You also have to understand. Of the relatively early Bitcoiners MP is practically a saint. |
21:25 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: understatement. practically the only participant whose product works 'as printed on the crate' |
21:25 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5209 @ 0.0000889 = 0.4631 BTC [+] {2} |
21:25 |
asciilifeform |
(to this day) |
21:26 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6981 @ 0.00086537 = 6.0411 BTC [+] {2} |
21:28 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.075 = 0.75 BTC [-] |
21:28 |
asciilifeform |
mike_c: the worst except for the alternatives << i sometimes use 'yandex.' it's encrusted with 1990s-style pestilential ad crapola, but mostly works. |
21:29 |
asciilifeform |
line between a marketer and a spammer << 'cold-caller' is a spammer, period. |
21:29 |
asciilifeform |
if successful cold-call, might be forgiven, 'treason prospers for the reason that if it prospers none dare call it treason...' etc |
21:30 |
asciilifeform |
but spam is spam. |
21:30 |
asciilifeform |
*never prospers |
21:34 |
peterl |
I used feedzebirds briefly |
21:34 |
peterl |
it seemed like a nice idea |
21:35 |
BingoBoingo |
peterl: Do you remember what exactly it was about? |
21:35 |
peterl |
you got to pick the retweets to send out, and so you could just use the interesting ones |
21:36 |
peterl |
you got paid based on how many followers you had |
21:38 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1777 @ 0.00007902 = 0.1404 BTC [-] {3} |
21:48 |
moiety |
!up Vexual |
21:49 |
moiety |
i'll make you shortbread if you ever get in the WoT Vexual :] |
21:50 |
Vexual |
why thankyou |
21:51 |
BingoBoingo |
https://bitcointa.lk/index.php?topic=504126.0 |
21:51 |
assbot |
[Cryptostocks]JDBIF another scammer that claims to have lost funds | Bitcointa.lk |
21:58 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2929 @ 0.00007605 = 0.2228 BTC [+] |
22:01 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5135 @ 0.00007439 = 0.382 BTC [-] {4} |
22:04 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: do you think it's possible to synthesize VHDL to a 7400 TTL netlist? |
22:05 |
Vexual |
usagi hotwallet method:to a hot array of failing hard disks is added a bitcoin wallet, and all backups. Hotter coffee is added splashwise until the hot wallet becomes cold. |
22:05 |
BingoBoingo |
lol Vexual |
22:06 |
BingoBoingo |
So. Meterologists are supposing a derechero is possible here in 7-12 hours. If I go silent after that time for a while cause is more likely power outage than rectotherm. |
22:06 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2476 @ 0.00007194 = 0.1781 BTC [-] {5} |
22:08 |
BingoBoingo |
!up Phinnaeus |
22:08 |
BingoBoingo |
Phinnaeus: Are you finally here, away from the forum? |
22:08 |
Phinnaeus |
i was just invited |
22:08 |
Vexual |
what are you making ascii? |
22:08 |
BingoBoingo |
;;later tell mircea_popescu I did it |
22:08 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
22:08 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 7 @ 0.07600001 = 0.532 BTC [-] {3} |
22:09 |
BingoBoingo |
Phinnaeus: Mp isn't on atm |
22:09 |
Phinnaeus |
k |
22:09 |
BingoBoingo |
Phinnaeus: But basically this is where him and Hanbot live now. |
22:09 |
Phinnaeus |
i bet she misses me |
22:09 |
BingoBoingo |
Indeed |
22:09 |
BingoBoingo |
Mircea does too |
22:09 |
BingoBoingo |
MP just moved to Argentina and is busy eating all the steak he can |
22:09 |
Phinnaeus |
it's been a while since I've used IRC. |
22:09 |
Vexual |
nsa cocktop? |
22:09 |
Phinnaeus |
I rarely use it. |
22:10 |
BingoBoingo |
Phinnaeus: I've moved away from the forum in favor of it after having only a few hours playing with it previously |
22:11 |
Phinnaeus |
Somebody else from the forum is in Argentina, if I'm not mistaken. |
22:11 |
decimation |
https://code.google.com/p/end-to-end/ |
22:11 |
assbot |
end-to-end - End-To-End - Google Project Hosting |
22:11 |
BingoBoingo |
Phinnaeus: I wouldn't be surprised if quite a few are |
22:12 |
BingoBoingo |
Phinnaeus: How is the northern part of our corrupt hellhole? |
22:12 |
Phinnaeus |
Does the name Florian Gasquez ring a bell for anybody here? |
22:12 |
decimation |
"Why do you only support Elliptic Curve (EC) key generation? Generating RSA keypairs is very significantly slower than generating EC-based ones. EC-based keys are just as secure. " |
22:12 |
decimation |
Eat recycled food etc. |
22:13 |
BingoBoingo |
Phinnaeus: Not atm for me |
22:13 |
Phinnaeus |
Look at the bottom of this page: http://web.archive.org/web/20040324225938/http://ff.st/fr/ He still keeps in contact with Mark Karpeles |
22:13 |
assbot |
FF.ST |
22:14 |
Phinnaeus |
yes, assbot |
22:14 |
BingoBoingo |
Interesting... |
22:14 |
Phinnaeus |
now go to his twitter account: https://twitter.com/un_geek/followers |
22:14 |
assbot |
Bei Twitter anmelden |
22:14 |
Phinnaeus |
followers was not important,,,, wrong link |
22:15 |
BingoBoingo |
Ah, Phin are you in the bitcoin-otc WoT yet? |
22:15 |
BingoBoingo |
!up Phinnaeus |
22:15 |
Phinnaeus |
but this part is: https://twitter.com/Weelya |
22:15 |
assbot |
weelya (weelya) auf Twitter |
22:16 |
BingoBoingo |
Moar interesting |
22:16 |
Phinnaeus |
Boy, I think I just figured out that assbot is not a real person. |
22:16 |
BingoBoingo |
it happens |
22:16 |
BingoBoingo |
kakobrekla is assbot's bot herder |
22:17 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07501054 = 0.3751 BTC [+] |
22:17 |
BingoBoingo |
!topic |
22:17 |
BingoBoingo |
http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com || http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com |
22:17 |
assbot |
#bitcoin-assets | You cannot stop the clouds by the building of a ship. |
22:17 |
assbot |
#bitcoin-assets log |
22:17 |
assbot |
#bitcoin-assets bash |
22:17 |
assbot |
Assets Assimilated |
22:17 |
BingoBoingo |
Phinnaeus: Anyways this channel has a log, and a bash and other shit |
22:17 |
Phinnaeus |
Now, go here and read the last few tweets (will only take a sec): https://twitter.com/sboj |
22:17 |
assbot |
Steve Boj (sboj) auf Twitter |
22:18 |
* |
BingoBoingo can't tell if nausea is the vodka or the tweet connections |
22:19 |
BingoBoingo |
!up Vexual |
22:20 |
Phinnaeus |
Then it all ties in to something call http://ape-project.org/ |
22:20 |
assbot |
APE (Ajax Push Engine) :: Comet server :: Real time data streaming |
22:20 |
BingoBoingo |
OMG AJAX is a scammer! |
22:20 |
Phinnaeus |
what the heck is a bot herder |
22:21 |
BingoBoingo |
Phinnaeus: He keeps the IRC bot in line and occasionally blesses it with new functions |
22:21 |
Phinnaeus |
http://goatsdoitonmounds.org |
22:21 |
Phinnaeus |
I think I just broke it. LOL |
22:21 |
BingoBoingo |
http://goatsonthings.tumblr.com/page/9 |
22:22 |
assbot |
Goats On Things |
22:22 |
Phinnaeus |
...so I thought |
22:22 |
BingoBoingo |
Yeah |
22:22 |
BingoBoingo |
The title thing is pretty new. ozbot used to do that and deliver porn to the channel |
22:23 |
Vexual |
what happened to that? |
22:23 |
BingoBoingo |
;;google site:trilema.com #bitcoin-assets +m |
22:23 |
gribble |
#bitcoin-assets +m pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/2014/bitcoin-assets-m/>; A virtual socioeconomic problem pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: <http://trilema.com/2014/a-virtual-socioeconomic-problem/>; The elitism memory hole effect pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: <http://trilema.com/2014/the-elitism-memory-hole-effect/> |
22:23 |
Vexual |
.d |
22:24 |
BingoBoingo |
;;gettrust Phinnaeus |
22:24 |
gribble |
WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user BingoBoingo to user Phinnaeus: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=BingoBoingo&dest=Phinnaeus | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Phinnaeus | Rated since: never |
22:25 |
Phinnaeus |
I'm curious as to when Micrea had that pic taken where he's in front of the pyramid on a horse. |
22:25 |
BingoBoingo |
Apparently that was years ago |
22:25 |
Phinnaeus |
2008 |
22:25 |
Phinnaeus |
When Brock Pierce was there? |
22:25 |
BingoBoingo |
I don't know for sure |
22:26 |
BingoBoingo |
Brock Pierce is a fucking chomo |
22:26 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [+] |
22:26 |
Phinnaeus |
What is this trust thing I'm asked to get? |
22:26 |
BingoBoingo |
Phinnaeus: You can register a GPG key or BTC address with gribble |
22:27 |
BingoBoingo |
then I can rate you and you can get auto voice for being Phinnaeus |
22:27 |
Vexual |
does gribble flip coins? |
22:27 |
BingoBoingo |
;;coin |
22:27 |
gribble |
heads |
22:27 |
BingoBoingo |
;;coin |
22:27 |
gribble |
heads |
22:27 |
BingoBoingo |
;;coin |
22:27 |
gribble |
tails |
22:27 |
Vexual |
can she flip 2? |
22:27 |
BingoBoingo |
http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/OTC_Rating_System |
22:27 |
assbot |
OTC Rating System - bitcoin-otc wiki |
22:27 |
BingoBoingo |
^ Phinnaeus |
22:27 |
Phinnaeus |
Okay. Gribble, send me some coins via the address I'm about to give you so that you truly know it's me. |
22:28 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 10 @ 0.0278007 = 0.278 BTC [+] |
22:28 |
BingoBoingo |
lol |
22:28 |
BingoBoingo |
If you BTC address auth it's the stupid signature thing... |
22:29 |
Phinnaeus |
I could reply to the person who sent me here via PM on BT |
22:29 |
BingoBoingo |
Phinnaeus: That's me. I'm Atruk on the forum. |
22:30 |
Phinnaeus |
Just sent you a PM |
22:30 |
BingoBoingo |
Tis indeed you |
22:30 |
Phinnaeus |
You can me me, too. 815-508-1668 |
22:31 |
BingoBoingo |
Phinnaeus: But if you know I'm 618 that's like... 3/5ths of the state's area I could be in |
22:32 |
BingoBoingo |
I also can't register you with the bots... Once you are registered I can rate you. |
22:32 |
BingoBoingo |
My powers though are limited. |
22:32 |
BingoBoingo |
MP probably can explain this all more elegantly |
22:32 |
Phinnaeus |
How important is to be registered? |
22:32 |
BingoBoingo |
Phinnaeus: Well, it is a huge convenience thing. |
22:33 |
Phinnaeus |
Ahhhhh |
22:33 |
BingoBoingo |
You can give yourself voice in channel |
22:33 |
mike_c |
asciilifeform: do you know if this is true? "EC-based keys are just as secure as RSA keypairs" |
22:33 |
BingoBoingo |
otherwise you ask people and they will probably give voice. |
22:33 |
BingoBoingo |
Phinnaeus: But the keys to give and take voice only are offered to registered people, because crypto |
22:34 |
Phinnaeus |
Bring me up to speed. What's "take voice" and what's the purpose of this IRC channel (any IRC channel)? |
22:35 |
BingoBoingo |
Well, this channel exists because... Maybe someone can explain it better... |
22:35 |
BingoBoingo |
Basically "Forum has problems" |
22:35 |
BingoBoingo |
Phinnaeus: Voice, giving and taking of it, is an idiot silencing and anti-spam measure. |
22:35 |
Phinnaeus |
Remember, I'm the Bitcoiner that doesn't mine, nor host a client. And, trust InstaWallet with my 1,132 BTC of which davout (staff of BT) now has in one of his fat-ass wallets. |
22:35 |
moiety |
BingoBoingo: re: goat on a cliff. "If you squint just right you can see how it got there" lolol |
22:36 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5800 @ 0.00006081 = 0.3527 BTC [-] {8} |
22:36 |
mike_c |
Phinnaeus: bingo linked you to a good post on the point of it all earlier. worth reading if you're thinking of hanging out here: http://trilema.com/2014/bitcoin-assets-m/ |
22:36 |
assbot |
#bitcoin-assets +m pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
22:37 |
BingoBoingo |
moiety: Did you see the sort of eldrich not Manul beast I encountered Monday? |
22:37 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 14765 @ 0.00004298 = 0.6346 BTC [-] {16} |
22:38 |
Phinnaeus |
thanks for the link BB |
22:38 |
BingoBoingo |
Phinnaeus: You are welcome. Pretty sure there's more stuff to get caught up on after spending so long in the Thermos ghetto. |
22:39 |
Phinnaeus |
They love me there! |
22:40 |
moiety |
i made a quick how-to in the wiki on the homepage too Phinnaeus in case thats of any help |
22:40 |
moiety |
no i haven't BB :o logged? |
22:40 |
BingoBoingo |
;;google alligator snapping turtle |
22:40 |
gribble |
Alligator snapping turtle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alligator_snapping_turtle>; Alligator Snapping Turtle - National Geographic: <http://animals.nationalgeographic.com/animals/reptiles/alligator-snapping-turtle/>; Alligator Snapping Turtle - National Zoo| FONZ: (1 more message) |
22:41 |
BingoBoingo |
moiety: Local was wrestling with one of these Pizza sized critters trying to get it off the road |
22:41 |
Vexual |
that thing is cooler than a goat on something |
22:41 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 18 @ 0.04622666 = 0.8321 BTC [-] {8} |
22:42 |
moiety |
that is not a turtle, that thing is from game of thrones or something |
22:42 |
peterl |
Phinnaeus: wow, suprised to see you here. You still feeding hungry people? |
22:42 |
BingoBoingo |
Thing is native to parts of Illinois, but there is a lack of evidence it was ever native to place I passed it, but "reintroducing species" and shit like that |
22:43 |
Phinnaeus |
I was surprised to see that Mircea was banned on BT a while back. |
22:43 |
moiety |
"lost/abandoned exotic pets" |
22:43 |
Phinnaeus |
Question: I met Goat in KC last year. Is he a good guy? |
22:44 |
* |
nubbins` blinks |
22:44 |
nubbins` |
BingoBoingo, you're Atruk on the forum? |
22:44 |
BingoBoingo |
Phinnaeus: Well... actually Hannah was banned |
22:44 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [FN] [F.MPIF] 10000 @ 0.00021548 = 2.1548 BTC [+] |
22:44 |
Phinnaeus |
@peter That's Jason King's outfit, that I was just helping out. |
22:44 |
BingoBoingo |
nubbins`: yeah, didn't you know... from like the signature... |
22:45 |
nubbins` |
never made the connection |
22:45 |
moiety |
I'd know that beard anywhere now! |
22:45 |
BingoBoingo |
Phinnaeus: My impression is he's friendly. Misguided. Opportunistic. Maybe one of stupid or self serving. |
22:45 |
Phinnaeus |
Was Hannah the one that had that pick of toes last year that Jack Off to very now and then? |
22:45 |
BingoBoingo |
Phinnaeus: That's the one |
22:45 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5000 @ 0.0000762 = 0.381 BTC [+] {5} |
22:45 |
BingoBoingo |
!up Phinnaeus |
22:45 |
nubbins` |
i've done some business with goat, nice enough guy, seems a bit scatterbrained |
22:45 |
BingoBoingo |
Phinnaeus: Still here? |
22:45 |
Phinnaeus |
y |
22:46 |
BingoBoingo |
Phinnaeus: Your 30 minutes of voice expired |
22:46 |
BingoBoingo |
Had to renew it. |
22:46 |
Phinnaeus |
I've been on here for 30 minutes already? |
22:46 |
BingoBoingo |
So it seems |
22:46 |
nubbins` |
time flies :D |
22:47 |
Phinnaeus |
...while you're taking a shit...literally! |
22:47 |
nubbins` |
you may also wish to use an actual irc client instead of the web interface, lots of handy features like tab-completion for nicks |
22:47 |
nubbins` |
for example, i just type "ph" and hit tab to get "Phinnaeus" |
22:47 |
BingoBoingo |
Phinnaeus: also, courtesy of asciilifeform here's Hannah and Mircea in the same picture if you haven't seen it already http://www.loper-os.org/wp-content/tri2.jpg |
22:47 |
nubbins` |
also, you can sort of just minimize it without worrying about timeouts etc |
22:48 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00087545 = 2.1886 BTC [+] |
22:48 |
Vexual |
oh mircea, zips on your boots! |
22:48 |
Phinnaeus |
I'm a noob when it comes to all this client stuff |
22:49 |
BingoBoingo |
Phinnaeus: We all still are |
22:49 |
Vexual |
tsk tsk |
22:49 |
moiety |
they are really handy once youve had a wee click about. it's all straightforward nick and pass stuff |
22:49 |
BingoBoingo |
!up Vexual |
22:49 |
moiety |
!up Vexual |
22:49 |
Phinnaeus |
But, I do okay with HTML, CSS and Google-fu |
22:50 |
BingoBoingo |
Phinnaeus: X chat may be a good client to try then |
22:50 |
mike_c |
i hate cloudflare as much as everyone, but this is actually a really useful primer on RSA and EC if you are new to the details of how they work: |
22:50 |
mike_c |
http://blog.cloudflare.com/a-relatively-easy-to-understand-primer-on-elliptic-curve-cryptography |
22:50 |
assbot |
A (Relatively Easy To Understand) Primer on Elliptic Curve Cryptography | CloudFlare Blog |
22:50 |
moiety |
then an irc client will be nothing :D |
22:50 |
moiety |
i have gone back to xchat and i have no idea why. i'm missing smuxi |
22:50 |
BingoBoingo |
Or smuxi's another good one. |
22:50 |
BingoBoingo |
moiety: Is it the SASL plugin? |
22:51 |
Phinnaeus |
I thought Hannah was the primer on elliptic curves. |
22:51 |
BingoBoingo |
lol |
22:51 |
BingoBoingo |
That's actually fluffypony's photoshopped wife |
22:51 |
nubbins` |
lel |
22:52 |
peterl |
nubbins`: wow, I didn't know that about tab completion. Learn something new every day! |
22:52 |
Phinnaeus |
I guess after a few more sessions here, I'll get up to speed as to how to use this IRC thingie. |
22:52 |
nubbins` |
peterl, hang around me and you'll learn a few new things every day |
22:52 |
Vexual |
i keep my left hand on tab always |
22:53 |
nubbins` |
Phinnaeus: a dedicated client can also highlight lines with your nickname, play a sound when you're mentioned, etc |
22:53 |
moiety |
BB, no what's actually bothering me is the colours. everyone had their own before and i guess i just got used to it. now its in blocks of i'm not sure but they are definitely shared |
22:53 |
Phinnaeus |
So that's where The Thinker keeps his left hand. |
22:53 |
Phinnaeus |
I do hear the sound part. |
22:54 |
Phinnaeus |
Got to go back to Google-fuuing, all. |
22:54 |
moiety |
i like how clients identify you automatically to nickserv when you open it |
22:54 |
Phinnaeus |
Or, is it fuing? |
22:54 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 7661 @ 0.000075 = 0.5746 BTC [-] |
22:54 |
nubbins` |
hard to say |
22:54 |
nubbins` |
peace |
22:54 |
Vexual |
love |
22:54 |
peterl |
happiness |
22:54 |
Phinnaeus |
Tell Mircea I stopped by, BB. |
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↖ |
22:55 |
peterl |
he will se it in the logs |
22:55 |
Phinnaeus |
Speaking of log, need to wipe now. |
22:55 |
Phinnaeus |
logs |
22:55 |
peterl |
or you can have gribble tell him later |
22:55 |
Phinnaeus |
late, guys |
22:55 |
Phinnaeus |
later |
22:56 |
moiety |
bye Phinnaeus nice to meet you |
22:57 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00087549 = 11.4689 BTC [+] {2} |
22:58 |
asciilifeform |
decimation: VHDL to a 7400 TTL netlist << certainly. i think brad parker (author of CADR, symbolics, and TI LM emulators) had a widget that does just this. |
22:59 |
decimation |
one could use a commercial tool and hack it, but it would be neat if there were a tool that took into account gate delays etc. |
23:00 |
decimation |
I'll see if I can find Mr. Parker's warez |
23:00 |
moiety |
he had to go fuuing BB, he said he would be back |
23:01 |
asciilifeform |
mike_c: EC-based keys << complicated subject. the only solidly established fact is that the american curves are to be avoided. |
23:01 |
nubbins` |
;;view |
23:01 |
gribble |
#20672 Mon Jun 2 11:57:18 2014 nubbins` SELL 1.0 OFFICIAL #bitcoin-assets t-shirt @ 0.039728 BTC (Worldwide shipping included. Optional '#bitcoin-assets / freenode' text on back. http://imgur.com/jmcSFTx) |
23:01 |
mike_c |
hehe. you mean the nsa recommended ones? |
23:01 |
decimation |
It is interesting that google "dropped support" of RSA in alpha for "performance reasons" |
23:01 |
Vexual |
asciilifeform:what are you making re: 7400s? no such lAptop? |
23:02 |
decimation |
no doubt, EC is better to implement in the hell that is javascript |
23:02 |
moiety |
just how big are these tshirts btw nubbins`? |
23:02 |
nubbins` |
moiety depends on the size ;) |
23:02 |
decimation |
but I suspect the majority of existing GPG keys use RSA (or maybe elgamal) |
23:02 |
asciilifeform |
Vexual: what are you making re: 7400s << nothing at present |
23:02 |
nubbins` |
we use regular gildan tees, sizes from small to xxl |
23:03 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4602 @ 0.000075 = 0.3452 BTC [-] |
23:03 |
moiety |
kk, makes sense lol thanks :D |
23:04 |
asciilifeform |
decimation: EC is a kind of 'devil's temptation' on account of compact keys. |
23:04 |
nubbins` |
i'll prolly print the current orders in the next couple days |
23:06 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: tri2.jpg << rng container at bottom left hand corner of photo. |
23:06 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 37070 @ 0.000075 = 2.7803 BTC [-] |
23:08 |
Vexual |
asciilifeform: sexy |
23:08 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [+] |
23:08 |
asciilifeform |
lol. in the pic, it's empty. |
23:09 |
Vexual |
0-3+-2 |
23:09 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Looks like a safe place |
23:09 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 10 @ 0.0295 = 0.295 BTC [+] |
23:10 |
BingoBoingo |
moiety: Heat related equipment problem |
23:10 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: interestingly, none of the customs inspectors in 3 countries had any wish to open it. |
23:10 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: They were probably taught better than to. |
23:11 |
asciilifeform |
Vexual: example of student cpu built with 74xxx logic: http://www.bigmessowires.com/nibbler |
23:11 |
assbot |
Big Mess o' Wires » Nibbler 4 Bit CPU |
23:11 |
asciilifeform |
(a bit of a cheat, uses modern sram and rom) |
23:11 |
Vexual |
neato |
23:12 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: still surprising. i did expect annoying questions. |
23:13 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: I imagine the inspectors get accustomed to annoying answers and learn not to ask |
23:13 |
moiety |
thought it must have been a crash of some sort BB |
23:13 |
BingoBoingo |
moiety: It was. |
23:15 |
asciilifeform |
i forget who here gave a shit about the CVT, but to round out the story: i did learn the cause of the voltage sags. ancient wiring, too many fat electrical appliances switching on in unison (air conditioner, water heater column) |
23:16 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [+] |
23:16 |
decimation |
looking at the end-to-end turd, it appears that they do support many ciphers: aes.js aeskeywrap_testdata.js blowfish.js cipher.js ciphertext.js ecdh.js elgamal.js idea.js rsa.js workerservice.js |
23:16 |
decimation |
aeskeywrap.js all.js cast5.js cipher_algorithm.js des.js ecdh_testdata.js factory.js key.js workercipher.js |
23:16 |
asciilifeform |
decimation: still subject to the 'toilet in the kitchen' problem (browser) |
23:17 |
asciilifeform |
it's hilariously funny how everyone is eager to go back to 1992 and ditch even the most elementary process memory separation. |
23:18 |
decimation |
no d00d chrome puts each window in it's own process! |
23:19 |
nubbins` |
alexander shulgin died today |
23:19 |
nubbins` |
it made me think of vexual |
23:19 |
asciilifeform |
nubbins`: afaik he's been out of commission for a while (blind?) |
23:20 |
nubbins` |
stroke, cancer, etc |
23:20 |
asciilifeform |
nubbins`: his book is neat (2nd volume mostly written by wife, afaik) |
23:20 |
nubbins` |
hard go these past few years |
23:20 |
asciilifeform |
!up Vexual |
23:20 |
nubbins` |
i've been meaning to pick up pihkal / tihkal for years |
23:20 |
asciilifeform |
he had an... interesting relationship with american gov. |
23:20 |
nubbins` |
yup!! |
23:21 |
nubbins` |
spent a long time in a very unique position |
23:21 |
asciilifeform |
crown license for making/taking whatever drug, in exchange for selling soul. |
23:21 |
nubbins` |
i recall reading years ago that he was doing the whole *ihkal thing with cacti |
23:22 |
asciilifeform |
i'd be very curious to hear, from a legal scholar, how this was arranged on paper. |
23:22 |
nubbins` |
experimenting with compounds, dosing, etc |
23:22 |
nubbins` |
afaik DEA exemption letter is all you need. would be cool to see |
23:22 |
asciilifeform |
these used to be... not exactly common, but not entirely unheard of. |
23:23 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [+] |
23:23 |
asciilifeform |
-- story interlude -- a lab i once worked in used to house such an experimenter. he was eventually caught in diverting his stash to the black market, and imprisoned. the next guy inherited a few kg of coke. |
23:23 |
asciilifeform |
he refused to sign for it. ended up contacting various commercial disposal companies |
23:23 |
asciilifeform |
none of whom wanted the liability |
23:23 |
asciilifeform |
finally, a funeral home agreed to cremate it. |
23:24 |
decimation |
lol. I'm pretty sure the DEA tracks that stuff to the mg |
23:24 |
asciilifeform |
(on account of it being exempt from air pollution regulations, as i understand.) |
23:24 |
nubbins` |
hah |
23:24 |
nubbins` |
"method of disposal: vacuum" |
23:24 |
asciilifeform |
the events took place long before my time, so story is to be taken with grain of salt. |
23:25 |
nubbins` |
i found it amusing that LSD was the only drug he didn't include trip reports for, on account of there being so many thousands in the literature already |
23:25 |
BingoBoingo |
http://gawker.com/new-york-times-columnist-maureen-dowd-is-very-bad-at-ge-1585770304 |
23:25 |
assbot |
New York Times Columnist Maureen Dowd Is Very Bad at Getting High |
23:26 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: all of the described sensations are documented side effects. |
23:27 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Of course they are. Question is why media outlet proceeds as though they aren't... |
23:27 |
nubbins` |
lel @ lady getting too high |
23:27 |
nubbins` |
didn't she know eating it is so much crazier?! |
23:28 |
asciilifeform |
probably took 'elephant dose,' too. |
23:28 |
nubbins` |
"i'll just eat a gram", said many stoners an hour before a night-long panic attack |
23:29 |
decimation |
it appers the google js crypto supports djb's 255 19 curve, I don't know javascript well enough to figure out what is set for the default |
23:29 |
asciilifeform |
decimation: at this point, it seems reasonable to think of google et al. as 'poisoned tree' and their crypto not worth the effort to audit. |
23:30 |
nubbins` |
;;google george jung |
23:30 |
gribble |
George Jung - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Jung>; 'Blow' Inspiration George Jung -- My First Post-Prison Meal Was ...: <http://www.tmz.com/2014/06/03/blow-george-jung-prison-release-first-meal-video/>; George Jung RELEASED From Prison -- Johnny Depp's 'Blow ...: <http://www.tmz.com/2014/06/02/george-jung-blow-inspiration-johnny-depp-released- (1 more message) |
23:30 |
BingoBoingo |
related link http://gawker.com/sex-doll-with-giant-cans-visibly-aroused-to-sell-used-c-1585671050 |
23:30 |
assbot |
Sex Doll with Giant Cans Visibly Aroused to Sell Used Car on eBay |
23:31 |
decimation |
well, the trouble is that even if the code in the repository is good, the user downloads the crypto every time he goes to gmail |
23:32 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25400 @ 0.00086614 = 22 BTC [-] |
23:32 |
decimation |
how does the user validate the dog pile of javascript he gets each time? |
23:32 |
decimation |
aside from your point about memory separation, this just seems kinda dumb |
23:33 |
decimation |
in the sense that it panders to the lowest common denominator of the webbrowser OS |
23:35 |
BingoBoingo |
!up Vexual |
23:36 |
Vexual |
whoa shulgin died |
23:42 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0213 = 0.1065 BTC [+] |
23:42 |
Vexual |
what a tripper |
23:45 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5646 @ 0.00086614 = 4.8902 BTC [-] |
23:46 |
nubbins` |
yup |
23:48 |
Vexual |
improve dmt, leave the coil for good |
23:49 |
Vexual |
to da moon |
23:50 |
nubbins` |
yeh, guy went to the moon long before btc did |
23:51 |
nubbins` |
his writings and work were a major influence in my formative years |
23:51 |
Vexual |
the vice article hints at a post humous book |
23:51 |
BingoBoingo |
What was wrong with the late Hunter S Thompson? |
23:51 |
nubbins` |
yeah, i know they were writing throughout the 2000's |
23:52 |
nubbins` |
BingoBoingo: how'd he die, you mean? |
23:52 |
nubbins` |
or what was his problem when he was still alive |
23:52 |
BingoBoingo |
nubbins`: I mean what is the problem with declaring him the Socrates of 20th Century drugging? |
23:53 |
Vexual |
socrates wsnt american |
23:53 |
nubbins` |
no real problems here |
23:53 |
BingoBoingo |
http://kotaku.com/creepypasta-had-to-issue-a-statement-saying-slender-man-1585713079 |
23:53 |
assbot |
Creepypasta Wiki Issues Statement Saying Slender Man Isn't Real |
23:53 |
Vexual |
oh yeah |
23:53 |
nubbins` |
ooh, that's gonna hurt the defence's case |
23:54 |
BingoBoingo |
Vexual: Athen was kind of a shithole at the time... |
23:54 |
Vexual |
i dig |
23:54 |
BingoBoingo |
"Fading Power' |
23:55 |
BingoBoingo |
I mean by Aristotle Athen was just that place Macedonians went for easy boys to rape. |
23:57 |
nubbins` |
hm |
23:57 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.02125 = 0.17 BTC [-] |
23:57 |
Vexual |
mm |
23:57 |
nubbins` |
something about this drum throne makes my dick fall asleep after a few minutes |
23:57 |
Vexual |
play that shit |
23:58 |
nubbins` |
it's a very odd feeling |
23:58 |
BingoBoingo |
nubbins`: That isn't healthy. Dick can have problems. |
23:58 |
nubbins` |
it's only on this chair |
23:58 |
nubbins` |
pins & needles now D: |
23:58 |
BingoBoingo |
Replace it. |
23:58 |
BingoBoingo |
Do you really want your favorite vascular organ getting ischemic from clots |
23:58 |
Vexual |
wait |
23:58 |
nubbins` |
just so we're clear, i don't sit on a drum throne all day |
23:59 |
nubbins` |
;;google drum throne |
23:59 |
gribble |
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23:59 |
nubbins` |
i'm just in the basement smoking ;( |
23:59 |
nubbins` |
('throne' is a bit of an embellishment) |
23:59 |
BingoBoingo |
nubbins`: Still sounds dangerous. More so now that you confess to a vasoconstrictor. Go to ER, get TPA shot just in case. |