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00:00 Adlai ok
00:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3805 @ 0.00054162 = 2.0609 BTC [-] {2}
00:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9030 @ 0.00053185 = 4.8026 BTC [-] {2}
00:08 TheNewDeal soso anyone interested in this S&P closing quarter 4?
00:13 joecool no
00:14 TheNewDeal k
00:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00053185 = 3.6166 BTC [-]
00:18 TheNewDeal ;;nethash
00:18 gribble 305738708.312
00:18 TheNewDeal ;;bc,stast
00:18 gribble Error: "bc,stast" is not a valid command.
00:18 TheNewDeal ;;bc,stats
00:18 gribble Current Blocks: 335798 | Current Difficulty: 3.945767130713873E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 336671 | Next Difficulty In: 873 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 6 hours, 58 minutes, and 54 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 39043287016.4 | Estimated Percent Change: -1.0502
00:22 decimation maybe 'honest' silicon valley is impossible, in the same way that it's impossible for the two prisoners to coorperate, even if it is in their best interests
00:22 decimation (I've been reading that slatestarcodex link)
00:25 decimation whoever is willing to 'cooperate' and produce hardware/software that actually serves only the customer, will be eaten both those who are willing to defect for a cheap buck
00:26 Adlai on the other hand, proper cooperation strategies could yield a strong enough ecosystem that it could survive defections of individual entities without the entire cooperative system collapsing
00:26 Adlai for increasingly speculative values of "could"
00:27 decimation this is something that underlies my yearning for 'hard currency': the idea that a hard currency would make defecting in this manner much less profitable
00:27 Adlai how so?
00:28 decimation presumably in a world funded primarily by investors actual capitol instead of made-up dollars, the loss of a bitcoin on an idiotic scheme is going to be a loss forever
00:28 decimation new bitcoins can't be printed up to ensure the solvency of the 'investor class'
00:28 Adlai and since you put it in scare quotes, how would you define 'hard currency'?
00:28 Adlai compromised silicon softens bitcoin
00:29 decimation but as asciilifeform has pointed out, the bezzlars (usg) control the entire silicon process stack
00:29 decimation I'm thinking of bitcoin, but any currency that is finite would suffice
00:30 decimation anyway, the pressure to not-lose would be much greater than the pressure to win-big in such a world
00:30 ben_vulpes https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8795280 << betwayal!
00:30 assbot No. It is a disgusting channel that is filled with white men who seriously advoc... | Hacker News ... ( http://bit.ly/1rjgBj2 )
00:31 decimation lol
00:31 decimation it's not entirely a surprise, this
00:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1042 @ 0.00119979 = 1.2502 BTC [+]
00:32 ben_vulpes "seriously advocate for slavery" << gosh, respect a woman's right to live in whatever kind of sin she wants!
00:32 ben_vulpes who knew sexy_saffron was such a vile slut shamer.
00:32 decimation if real, it is coming from someone who apparently makes slave porn all day long
00:33 decimation I guess we know what she thinks about her customers
00:33 ben_vulpes well who knows
00:33 ben_vulpes could just be pandering to another audience
00:33 Adlai the problem, and perfection, of irc is that it's just a bunch of words
00:34 Adlai but i guess butts get hurt sometimes
00:34 decimation but given that it was just created (the account) it could have easily been an account that was created by some spamming hobo who reads the logs
00:34 ben_vulpes how paranoid shall we get tonight?
00:34 Adlai lol then there is zero reason to believe it's really her
00:36 decimation it would be amusing if that draws in a crowd though (the HN thread)
00:36 ben_vulpes "business with keys", etc.
00:38 decimation actually, there's very good reason to think it isn't her
00:38 decimation if she actually 'is disgusted with irc', why would she continue to read the logs and follow bingo's link?
00:38 decimation otherwise, we are to believe that she trolls low-rated HN stories?
00:39 ben_vulpes follow BingoBoingo's link? read logs? i don't know that she did/does either.
00:41 Adlai are we still entertaining the notion that saffron reads HN, not just on the front page, but on the Ask HN page - but didn't have an HN account until now?
00:42 Adlai P(A) is reasonable, but P(A|~B) seems like a long shot
00:42 decimation I guess pretty paranoid is the answer ;(
00:43 Adlai If you think something is spam or offtopic, flag it by going to its page and clicking on the "flag" link. (Not all users will see this; there is a karma threshold.) If you flag something, please don't also comment that you did.
00:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12624 @ 0.00054319 = 6.8572 BTC [+]
00:43 Adlai (from https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html )
00:43 assbot Hacker News Guidelines ... ( http://bit.ly/13FSIHI )
00:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17100 @ 0.00054479 = 9.3159 BTC [+] {2}
00:51 Adlai http://greyhat.io/onions/dildosky53jnf5mt.onion.png
00:51 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/13FTx2Z )
00:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72300 @ 0.00055159 = 39.88 BTC [+] {2}
00:59 joecool dat background
01:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1090 @ 0.00120102 = 1.3091 BTC [+]
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01:31 BingoBoingo Twas not my link, but Jurov's link
01:39 xanthyos bitcoin is 322.23 and iirc captain kirk's birthday is 3/22/2233 and i've had some whiskey so i'm gonna buy some coinbase now for realz
01:39 assbot Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2XYEWBW.txt )
01:39 BingoBoingo !b 1
01:40 BingoBoingo So I apparently have an Android phone, but it is a shitty prepaid burner deal which is a plus. On the downside I am just now discovering all of the ways the Schildbach wallet sucks.
01:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 944 @ 0.00119978 = 1.1326 BTC [-] {2}
01:49 xanthyos i thought none of the android app wallets were safe. are you just testing it with a small amount?
01:50 joecool android
01:50 joecool nothign is safe
01:50 joecool nothing will ever be safe
01:52 xanthyos lot of the negative reviews refer to the receive address changing without their control
01:55 BingoBoingo I have no BTC on there at the moment. I can't even create a backup of my wallet file.
01:55 joecool BingoBoingo: that's a feature
01:57 BingoBoingo joecool: Well, considering the entire premise of an android phone is carrying around a demilitarized zone between yourself and google sure.
02:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37750 @ 0.00056041 = 21.1555 BTC [+] {2}
02:05 Unable to get details for bet 1089: Get http://bitbet.us/bet/1089/?json: dial tcp 185.56.137.194:80: ConnectEx tcp: A connection attempt failed because the connected party did not properly respond after a period of time, or established connection failed because connected host has failed to respond.
02:05 joecool o that looks quality
02:08 BingoBoingo ^ bot ppls
02:19 BingoBoingo OMG I never new startup vultures wer so self promoting on twitter https://twitter.com/BBoingo/status/548014069492752384
02:19 assbot What's updog?
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02:56 BingoBoingo RagnarDanneskjol: How is your winter holiday?
02:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57650 @ 0.00058035 = 33.4572 BTC [+] {2}
02:57 RagnarDanneskjol so far so good - its beach weather this week, so not quite wintery. you?
03:06 BingoBoingo RagnarDanneskjol: We were promissed an assload of snow and instead got a bit of drizzel so going good here.
03:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16400 @ 0.00058126 = 9.5327 BTC [+]
03:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47400 @ 0.00056644 = 26.8493 BTC [-] {3}
03:14 BingoBoingo http://slashdot.org/submission/4081935/mh370-shot-by-us-navy-in-march
03:14 assbot MH370 shot by US Navy in March - Slashdot ... ( http://bit.ly/1vqZEQ4 )
03:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49800 @ 0.00055253 = 27.516 BTC [-] {2}
03:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19700 @ 0.00056501 = 11.1307 BTC [+]
03:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4336 @ 0.00056501 = 2.4499 BTC [+]
03:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5014 @ 0.00056501 = 2.833 BTC [+]
03:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 978 @ 0.0011999 = 1.1735 BTC [-]
04:00 BingoBoingo !up axitkhurana
04:00 BingoBoingo !up austeritysucks
04:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22750 @ 0.00058277 = 13.258 BTC [+] {2}
04:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43100 @ 0.00058639 = 25.2734 BTC [+] {2}
04:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23800 @ 0.00056553 = 13.4596 BTC [-]
04:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27265 @ 0.00058972 = 16.0787 BTC [+] {2}
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04:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 5270 @ 0.00120341 = 6.342 BTC [+] {2}
04:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 4000 @ 0.0012036 = 4.8144 BTC [+]
04:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35850 @ 0.0005855 = 20.9902 BTC [-] {2}
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05:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47227 @ 0.00057592 = 27.199 BTC [-] {3}
05:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39419 @ 0.00060406 = 23.8114 BTC [+] {2}
05:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 25 @ 0.12499999 = 3.125 BTC [+] {2}
05:41 cazalla the fuck is this clams bullshit on just-dice, they really expect i will send them btc private key to claim clams?
05:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2566 @ 0.00060764 = 1.5592 BTC [+]
05:55 BingoBoingo cazalla: And now you know that scheme's greatest retardation
05:56 cazalla i vaguely remember clams being discussed before but did not know finer details until decided to check just-dice out again
06:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40013 @ 0.00060764 = 24.3135 BTC [+]
06:03 BingoBoingo Yeah, almost sucks as much as the Schilbach wallet which I can not yet evaluate
06:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.00058474 = 6.1982 BTC [-] {2}
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06:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1079 @ 0.00119041 = 1.2845 BTC [-] {5}
06:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 3868 @ 0.0011904 = 4.6045 BTC [-] {2}
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06:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1140 @ 0.0011904 = 1.3571 BTC [-] {5}
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06:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17450 @ 0.00059034 = 10.3014 BTC [+]
06:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.00058986 = 5.2498 BTC [-]
07:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00059022 = 3.3052 BTC [+]
07:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31271 @ 0.00059057 = 18.4677 BTC [+] {2}
07:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1002 @ 0.001202 = 1.2044 BTC [-] {2}
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07:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21550 @ 0.00058574 = 12.6227 BTC [-] {2}
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08:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5860 @ 0.00059555 = 3.4899 BTC [+]
08:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20950 @ 0.00060166 = 12.6048 BTC [+]
08:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10117 @ 0.00060145 = 6.0849 BTC [-] {2}
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08:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32200 @ 0.0006095 = 19.6259 BTC [+] {2}
08:52 decimation ;;ticker
08:52 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 318.91, Best ask: 319.5, Bid-ask spread: 0.59000, Last trade: 319.51, 24 hour volume: 5065.01275594, 24 hour low: 316.88, 24 hour high: 330.28, 24 hour vwap: 323.372420418
08:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37150 @ 0.00061364 = 22.7967 BTC [+] {2}
08:55 decimation Merry Christmas!
08:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13400 @ 0.00059645 = 7.9924 BTC [-] {2}
09:11 dignork BingoBoingo: even though giving private key is a stupid way to do it (you can prove the same by signature), normally I wouldn't care about leaked privkey, which ideally was used only once. Unless the key is also used for gribble, but then, who would use non-random key for grubble auth. Where do you see the problem?
09:12 dignork and Merry Christmas! :)
09:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36100 @ 0.00061681 = 22.2668 BTC [+] {2}
09:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43200 @ 0.00058425 = 25.2396 BTC [-] {2}
09:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1220 @ 0.00119106 = 1.4531 BTC [+] {2}
09:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29747 @ 0.00061813 = 18.3875 BTC [+] {4}
09:48 thestringpuller Merry X-Mas decimation!
09:49 thestringpuller is cazalla awake? or did the merriment wear him down already?
09:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33602 @ 0.00062294 = 20.932 BTC [+] {3}
10:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38448 @ 0.00063037 = 24.2365 BTC [+] {4}
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10:23 thestringpuller http://imgur.com/a/5afpv << coindesk without CSS
10:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13800 @ 0.00063595 = 8.7761 BTC [+]
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10:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2050 @ 0.0006284 = 1.2882 BTC [-]
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11:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5482 @ 0.000627 = 3.4372 BTC [-]
11:45 thestringpuller merry x-mas danielpbarron
11:45 thestringpuller :D
11:56 danielpbarron bah humbug!
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12:38 scoopbot New post on The Whet by han@thewhet: http://thewhet.net/2014/how-to-blame-others-and-entertain-people/
12:43 asciilifeform lol!
12:43 asciilifeform mr spam rides again!
12:48 jurov lol ben_vulpes he's fond of you ^^
12:51 jurov "I am sorry that I had such a bad experience with your community but I am being extremely negatively affected as a result." lolwut
12:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18050 @ 0.00062655 = 11.3092 BTC [-]
13:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 5300 @ 0.00119 = 6.307 BTC [-]
13:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1000 @ 0.00119 = 1.19 BTC [-]
13:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1060 @ 0.00119 = 1.2614 BTC [-]
13:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00062655 = 1.0651 BTC [-]
13:17 thestringpuller http://i.imgur.com/vP2zH8g.jpg << bitcoins not bombs ppl
13:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41193 @ 0.00061944 = 25.5166 BTC [-] {2}
13:23 dignork thestringpuller: "repeatoffender" keyword in their game, is a nice touch of insanity :)
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13:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17533 @ 0.00062347 = 10.9313 BTC [+]
13:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17000 @ 0.00062347 = 10.599 BTC [+]
14:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32350 @ 0.000617 = 19.96 BTC [-] {3}
14:05 thestringpuller shttp://techcrunch.com/2014/12/06/a-bitcoin-battle-is-brewing/ << LOL
14:06 thestringpuller "There is one company/cryptocurrency/platform which claims to occupy an interesting space between Bitcoin and altcoins, between DC and AC: Stellar, backed by Stripe. Its CTO, one Jed McCaleb, created Mt. Gox, the first big Bitcoin exchange (and sold it to Mark Karpelès long before Mt. Gox’s notorious implosion began.) He then created Ripple–which, he says curtly, “didn’t work out“–before moving to Stellar to “do
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14:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32650 @ 0.00062686 = 20.467 BTC [+] {3}
14:28 asciilifeform thestringpuller: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-06-2014#700916
14:28 assbot Logged on 04-06-2014 00:08:26; asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the buggers' traditional defense is to pretend that the event was a non-event - or, if this is impractical, to continue living in an imaginary world where they 'scooped' the story first, and all of the 'unsanctioned' discussion never happened.
14:28 asciilifeform ^ the fundamental theorem of the media apparat.
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15:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15550 @ 0.00061902 = 9.6258 BTC [-]
15:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31000 @ 0.00062931 = 19.5086 BTC [+] {3}
15:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31629 @ 0.00061339 = 19.4009 BTC [-] {2}
15:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45271 @ 0.00059909 = 27.1214 BTC [-] {2}
15:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11865 @ 0.00063332 = 7.5143 BTC [+]
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15:42 thestringpuller ;;gpg info cazalla
15:42 gribble User 'cazalla', with keyid 21B9818A468F4AD0, fingerprint FD9FB3F73B5AE8499A02F0C521B9818A468F4AD0, and bitcoin address 1cKiW19Jc2aQ2sdKGkkEkGnbVZT8kKLAK, registered on Wed Feb 26 07:21:04 2014, last authed on Tue Dec 2 16:05:59 2014. http://b-otc.com/vg?nick=cazalla . Currently not authenticated.
15:53 cazalla ;;ident
15:53 gribble Nick 'cazalla', with hostmask 'cazalla!cazalla@unaffiliated/cazalla', is identified as user 'cazalla', with GPG key id 21B9818A468F4AD0, key fingerprint FD9FB3F73B5AE8499A02F0C521B9818A468F4AD0, and bitcoin address 1cKiW19Jc2aQ2sdKGkkEkGnbVZT8kKLAK
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16:17 mircea_popescu hey there asseteers!
16:18 kakobrekla heya
16:18 mircea_popescu https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8795280 << i lol'd but somehow dun think it's her
16:18 assbot No. It is a disgusting channel that is filled with white men who seriously advoc... | Hacker News ... ( http://bit.ly/1CRONDI )
16:19 mircea_popescu too much of a sjw dude vibe to it.
16:19 mircea_popescu ;;seen sexy_saffron
16:19 gribble sexy_saffron was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 21 weeks, 4 days, 22 hours, 28 minutes, and 2 seconds ago: <sexy_saffron> I really like how my picture turned out :)
16:19 mircea_popescu ;;later tell sexy_saffron https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8795280 << is this ninjashogun posing as a woman again ?
16:19 assbot No. It is a disgusting channel that is filled with white men who seriously advoc... | Hacker News ... ( http://bit.ly/1CRP35T )
16:19 gribble The operation succeeded.
16:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19750 @ 0.00059902 = 11.8306 BTC [-]
16:21 mircea_popescu thestringpuller << re the techcrunch cadaver washing job in the case of mccaleb : mebbe someone should write a piece detailing how tech crunch bit a steel girder providing whitewashing services for well known bitcoin scammers.
16:21 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-12-2014#960322 << o.o does ben_vulpes have some splainin' to do ?
16:21 assbot Logged on 25-12-2014 17:38:41; scoopbot: New post on The Whet by han@thewhet: http://thewhet.net/2014/how-to-blame-others-and-entertain-people/
16:26 mircea_popescu asciilifeform: because - in all but one out of thousand cases - why??? << once the why is answered, the "make their own" is answered too, fiveseconds later .that's the point.
16:26 mircea_popescu there's no "control" involved when the two options are "give us stuff for free" and "disappear into the night"
16:28 mircea_popescu https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=sexy_saffron << heh no submissions one comment, created yest. derp.
16:28 assbot Profile: sexy_saffron | Hacker News ... ( http://bit.ly/1CRRk0L )
16:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5721 @ 0.00060027 = 3.4341 BTC [+]
16:29 kakobrekla too bad christmas isnt more often. now that chan is dead i finally got some real work done.
16:30 kakobrekla like taking out the trash for example.
16:31 mircea_popescu lmao
16:31 kakobrekla also worrying amount of covert christians here.
16:31 mircea_popescu how is covert xtianity ?
16:32 kakobrekla well i see them here on sundays ?
16:32 mircea_popescu maybe they're covert sunday drivers.
16:32 mircea_popescu pretending they're really christians
16:32 kakobrekla hmm
16:33 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: trolling trolls?
16:33 mircea_popescu this has been another eggnogg powered conversation.
16:33 ben_vulpes (slander, i'm sure)
16:33 mircea_popescu eggnogg, bringing the covert of christmas!
16:33 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes so is he quoting a convo that actually occured on irc or one that actually occurred in his head ?
16:34 ben_vulpes actually occurred.
16:34 jurov we all have slanderous moments
16:34 mircea_popescu lol
16:35 mircea_popescu what sort of a cult is this!
16:37 ben_vulpes dunno boss
16:38 ben_vulpes in any event it should be evident from the gross exaggeration of the lines in question what my intent was in that exchange.
16:38 ben_vulpes bitbet doesn't defraud people
16:39 ben_vulpes an mmorpg is a decade-long project
16:39 mircea_popescu nigger is one thing, that's like freedom of speech and shit like that. but saying the bad about mpex and shit ?
16:39 mircea_popescu THATS UNEMPATETHICAL!
16:39 * ben_vulpes shrugs
16:39 ben_vulpes http://runnahgirl.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/cartman-i-do-what-I-want.jpg
16:39 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1zC54OS )
16:39 mircea_popescu if we seriously mean to take over teh fiat world we imperatively must have forbidden words!
16:40 ben_vulpes no trollin plebs by shit talkin popescu properties
16:40 ben_vulpes got it
16:40 mircea_popescu i was thinking more of gluten
16:40 mircea_popescu tinny sort of word.
16:41 ben_vulpes next year when the keto freaks show up you'll want to ban glycogen or summat
16:41 mircea_popescu all words starting with g
16:41 mircea_popescu its an imperialist ploy to subdue the reaction.
16:41 mircea_popescu i mean communist.
16:42 kakobrekla good.
16:42 mircea_popescu good doesn't really start with g
16:42 mircea_popescu more like a q thingee
16:42 ben_vulpes anyways can i do ya for anything else before emptying the dog's tanks?
16:42 mircea_popescu moar eggnogg!
16:43 ben_vulpes me too plz
16:43 * mircea_popescu collapses in a pile
16:43 kakobrekla go away i got more trash.
16:43 ben_vulpes quickly, bahahara, send in the assasins! he's vulnerable!
16:44 mircea_popescu kakobrekla eurotrash ?
16:44 jurov wut, kako does trash once in year?
16:44 ben_vulpes anyways, merry christmas ninjashogun
16:44 mircea_popescu his address is 3, Augean Stables.
16:45 jurov oh. at least he gets fresh milk directly from udder
16:45 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes you mean robert viragh ?
16:46 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: i guess we do need some X-Mas day content.
16:46 mircea_popescu like ?
16:47 kakobrekla jurov actually i did it yest, a bunch of old computer stuff which cant be disposed in a home dumpster
16:48 thestringpuller re: mircea_popescu: mebbe someone should write a piece detailing how tech crunch bit a steel girder providing whitewashing services for well known bitcoin scammers.
16:49 mircea_popescu a a yes yes
16:49 mats http://www.businessinsider.com/warren-buffett-money-tips-for-2015-2014-12
16:49 assbot Warren Buffett Money Tips For 2015 - Business Insider ... ( http://bit.ly/1zC6EjJ )
16:50 mats “Stay away from it. It’s a mirage, basically. … It’s a method of transmitting money. It’s a very effective way of transmitting money and you can do it anonymously and all that. A check is a way of transmitting money, too. Are checks worth a whole lot of money just because they can transmit money?"
16:51 mircea_popescu lol buffett doesn't wish for the currency part of bitcoin to exist huh
16:51 mircea_popescu guess what ? 100 dollar bills are also a way of transmitting value , which is what he misuses "money" to signify.
16:51 mircea_popescu apparently people do think 100 dollar bills are worth 100 dollars just because they can reliably transmit 100 dollars.
16:52 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
16:52 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 319.06, Best ask: 320.16, Bid-ask spread: 1.10000, Last trade: 319.04, 24 hour volume: 4217.47189242, 24 hour low: 316.63, 24 hour high: 324.23, 24 hour vwap: 320.151987886
16:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10350 @ 0.00063203 = 6.5415 BTC [+]
16:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 956 @ 0.00118352 = 1.1314 BTC [-] {5}
16:53 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: nigger is one thing, that's like freedom of speech << for some reason the Chappelle show skit that involved a white family with the last name "Niggar" came to mind.
16:53 mircea_popescu pretty good skit
16:53 mircea_popescu was he their milkman or what ?
16:54 thestringpuller yup!
16:54 mircea_popescu "i know how you niggars are about paying debts" lol
16:54 thestringpuller XD
16:55 mircea_popescu incidentally, i've seen the prettiest black girl i ever saw.
16:55 mircea_popescu no ass to speak of, just this pouffed up hair and huge green eyes
16:56 mircea_popescu she basically looked like a melatonious lion.
16:57 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: once the why is answered, the "make their own" is answered too, fiveseconds later << typically this question gets 'answered' when too late. as in the case of the russian trans-siberian pipeline.
16:58 mircea_popescu mmmmm
16:58 mircea_popescu mmebbe
16:59 ben_vulpes ah that's right the virulent robert viragh
16:59 assbot Elio19 +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
17:00 ben_vulpes !up ELio19
17:00 mircea_popescu !up ELio19
17:00 mircea_popescu o.O
17:00 ben_vulpes !up ELio19
17:00 ELio19 I thought my rate was pretty good, what do i need to get auto-voice?
17:01 ben_vulpes ;;gettrust assbot ELio19
17:01 gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask ELio19!~elio19@gateway/tor-sasl/elio19. Trust relationship from user assbot to user ELio19: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=ELio19 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=ELio19 | Rated since: Thu Mar 8 00:37:21 2012
17:01 ELio19 <assbot> You need a better WOT rating. (level 2 with assbot >0)
17:01 ben_vulpes see the chart
17:01 ben_vulpes ;;rate ELio19 1 new blood
17:01 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user ELio19 has been recorded.
17:01 ben_vulpes easy come easy go
17:01 * asciilifeform admits he is at this very moment... doing his day job
17:01 mircea_popescu ELio19 who are you neways ?
17:01 ELio19 I'm a Cuban computer programmer.
17:01 mircea_popescu asciilifeform capitalists exploiting the workers eh ?
17:01 asciilifeform workers exploiting selves
17:01 ELio19 Came to -otc in '12 ( i think )
17:01 mircea_popescu o hey. what'd you think of the obama-castro thing
17:02 ELio19 umm, its pretty cool i guess
17:02 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: prelude to 'colour' revolution
17:02 mircea_popescu asciilifeform which one is that one again ?
17:02 ELio19 What does derp mean?
17:02 asciilifeform a few of them
17:03 asciilifeform ;;google coloured revolution
17:03 gribble Colour revolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colour_revolution>; Vladimir Putin: we must stop a Ukraine-style 'coloured revolution' in ...: <http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/11243521/Vladimir-Putin-we-must-stop-a-Ukraine-style-coloured-revolution-in-Russia.html>; Putin says Russia must prevent 'color revolution' | (1 more message)
17:03 mircea_popescu o wait, the us dept of state middle east efforts ?
17:03 asciilifeform aka cia coup
17:03 mircea_popescu aha
17:08 mircea_popescu aite, well, bottoms up fellow cultists!
17:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00063332 = 5.9532 BTC [+]
17:08 ELio19 What does derp mean?
17:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13650 @ 0.00063409 = 8.6553 BTC [+] {2}
17:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8729 @ 0.00063203 = 5.517 BTC [-]
17:17 kakobrekla derp.
17:26 Bet placed: 6 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire as an investment" http://bitbet.us/bet/786/ Odds: 28(Y):72(N) by coin, 46(Y):54(N) by weight. Total bet: 4045.40374824 BTC. Current weight: 15,224.
17:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00059902 = 4.9719 BTC [-]
17:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00060564 = 5.6325 BTC [+]
17:37 jurov ;;ud derp
17:37 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=derp | The contemporary DNC and GOP parties are one party. the DeRps. Ignore what they say, watch what they do! Your common DeRp wants government spending.
17:37 jurov hahaha
17:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38350 @ 0.0005956 = 22.8413 BTC [-] {3}
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17:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16350 @ 0.00060245 = 9.8501 BTC [+] {2}
18:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3428 @ 0.00059445 = 2.0378 BTC [-]
18:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38150 @ 0.00059432 = 22.6733 BTC [-] {2}
18:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20645 @ 0.00060619 = 12.5148 BTC [+] {2}
18:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9779 @ 0.00062993 = 6.1601 BTC [+]
18:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28100 @ 0.00061689 = 17.3346 BTC [-] {2}
18:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17300 @ 0.00059212 = 10.2437 BTC [-]
18:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11981 @ 0.00059212 = 7.0942 BTC [-]
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19:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31880 @ 0.0006189 = 19.7305 BTC [+] {3}
19:11 ben_vulpes has anyone ever messed around with sighash_anyonecanpay?
19:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61876 @ 0.00058446 = 36.164 BTC [-] {4}
19:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25262 @ 0.00061708 = 15.5887 BTC [+] {2}
19:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15900 @ 0.00063427 = 10.0849 BTC [+]
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20:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00063427 = 4.5667 BTC [+]
20:27 thestringpuller ben_vulpes: lol wut?
20:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00063112 = 3.9129 BTC [-]
20:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2950 @ 0.00063112 = 1.8618 BTC [-]
20:54 kakobrekla >I think OP_RETURN has shown itself to be seriously problematic; and we continue to have problems with people beleving that storing non-bitcoin related data in the chain (as opposed, e.g. to simple commitments or things like ECDH nonces) is an approved, correct, non-antisocial use of the system.
20:54 kakobrekla a non-antisocial!
20:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34200 @ 0.00063427 = 21.692 BTC [+]
20:56 ben_vulpes any way bitcoin can be used is a fine way to use bitcoin.
20:57 kakobrekla well, .. https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/5286
20:57 assbot Change the default maximum OP_RETURN size to 80 bytes by Flavien · Pull Request #5286 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/13yxXgE )
20:59 decimation kakobrekla: the guy writes in a normative way as if he was in charge of something
21:01 ben_vulpes https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/5286#issuecomment-63180444 << fucking rich
21:01 assbot Change the default maximum OP_RETURN size to 80 bytes by Flavien · Pull Request #5286 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/13yyb7s )
21:01 ben_vulpes Luke-Jr: "Perhaps we should set the default to a random value between 0-80 at startup, to incentivise miners making their own decision without actually forcing it explicitly."
21:02 kakobrekla the whole thing is pretty far out there.
21:02 danielpbarron what happens if one of these things gets included in a block? does a pre 0.6.* node reject the whole block?
21:03 kakobrekla one of whese things?
21:03 danielpbarron a transaction with a bigger OP_RETURN
21:03 kakobrekla .6 allows for 80 bytes prolly
21:15 BingoBoingo ;;bc,stats
21:15 gribble Current Blocks: 335934 | Current Difficulty: 3.945767130713873E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 336671 | Next Difficulty In: 737 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 4 days, 15 hours, 56 minutes, and 57 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 39418386145.2 | Estimated Percent Change: -0.09956
21:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37186 @ 0.00063468 = 23.6012 BTC [+] {3}
21:19 danielpbarron !up Luke-Jr
21:19 Luke-Jr danielpbarron: this OP_RETURN stuff has nothing to do with the consensus system or blocks
21:19 Luke-Jr it's just node policy - what the node in question will choose to relay, mine, etc
21:20 Luke-Jr so ideally it should be determined by each node operator, not a centralised group
21:22 kakobrekla currently if you mine with version x you allow for 80 bytes and with version y 40 ?
21:22 Luke-Jr kakobrekla: I think it's 40 in all released versions
21:22 Luke-Jr 0.10 will allow changing it, at least (I forget if it increased to 80)
21:22 Luke-Jr increased the default*
21:23 Luke-Jr actually, if that pull request is still open, the default must still be 40
21:23 kakobrekla why does the guy in the thread there talk about some 'change'
21:23 Luke-Jr kakobrekla: when OP_RETURN code was initially merged to git, it was 80; it changed to 40 prior to any release
21:24 kakobrekla a
21:25 Luke-Jr so since node operators are lazy and don't set their own policies, it puts a weird centralising pressure to try to make some kind of one-size-fits-all policy. which makes for lots of stupid political arguments
21:26 Luke-Jr so my idea there was to just have the default be some not-totally-absurd random value, so at least people who care about datacarrier support set it themselves
21:27 kakobrekla well if we are shifting the blame we can shift it on the miners for not giving shit and devs for not making it easy
21:28 Luke-Jr it's not a miner-only thing; each node has a policy
21:28 Luke-Jr I'm certainly working on trying to make it easy though - see my CNodePolicy pull request
21:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32860 @ 0.00063627 = 20.9078 BTC [+] {2}
21:29 Luke-Jr one of my goals right now is to make it so people can just drop a Python/Ruby/whatever script in their bitcoin directory for their policy
21:29 Luke-Jr without having to hack C++, recompile, or worry about accidentally breaking consensus code
21:29 kakobrekla anyway i dont think most pool ops are capable of making political decisions or code changes
21:29 Luke-Jr well, that's another thing :p
21:29 * Luke-Jr is also working on taking policy decisions away from pool ops
21:30 kakobrekla and bet on 'wisdom of the crowd' ?
21:30 Luke-Jr well, at the very least, people can outsource their policy to someone other than the pool
21:30 Luke-Jr let anyone run their own policy server, and others can use that
21:31 Luke-Jr no more "I have a good policy idea, but nobody will use it because I have 5 Mh/s"
21:31 Luke-Jr now miners will safely use your policy without losing out on their pooled earnings
21:32 kakobrekla rely tx policies is like you are temporarily covering yourself with a blanket
21:33 Luke-Jr in a centralised world, perhaps
21:35 kakobrekla want 30k bbet addresses to block?
21:36 Luke-Jr ?
21:36 Luke-Jr wtf is bbet and why do I care?
21:36 kakobrekla hehe
21:37 kakobrekla i thought you were blocking gambling stuff ?
21:37 Luke-Jr no
21:37 Luke-Jr just spam
21:37 kakobrekla idk where i got that idea then.
21:38 Luke-Jr trolls like to claim my spamfilter is gambling-related blacklisting or something
21:38 Luke-Jr they miss the fact that Catholics consider gambling moral
21:38 Luke-Jr :p
21:39 kakobrekla yeah but btc doesnt give a fuck about catholics
21:39 BingoBoingo Or that apparently popes are spam too now
21:40 kakobrekla anyway, i would not really give away the addys. not because of the damage you couldnt do but i was saying it to point out its a battle against infinity.
21:41 kakobrekla at some point your rules to save resources will eat up more resources than just eating what comes.
21:41 Luke-Jr kakobrekla: sure, but as long as some spam is easy to pick out, might as well
21:42 Luke-Jr and my point was that the trolls' claim is ridiculous, since I have no incentive to block gambling at all
21:43 kakobrekla yea lets not rehash this or else its gonna end in fuck you.
21:44 Luke-Jr lol
21:45 danielpbarron !down Luke-Jr might as well
21:47 decimation it's amusing to see an argument of the form "I'm doing action X which tends to result in Y, but only trolls would believe that I want the result Y because reason R"
21:51 assbot Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1FX51KJ.txt )
21:51 BingoBoingo !b 4
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22:28 cazalla there ya go, it was a rusemaster https://twitter.com/SexyMissSaffron/status/548319185202597890
22:28 assbot /SexyMissSaffron lol, is this really you? https://t.co/3FSQtTmE4w
22:41 thestringpuller funny article hanbot
22:41 thestringpuller when does your novel come out?
22:42 asciilifeform now which one of you jokers conceived of that one.
22:44 hanbot heya thestringpuller, thx, tho ninjaderpgun would be impossible to unfunnicize
22:46 hanbot & merry holiday greeting y'all
22:46 gribble Error: "merry" is not a valid command.
22:47 assbot Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0KSF75C.txt )
22:47 danielpbarron !b 2
22:48 hanbot lol gribbly humbug
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23:06 asciilifeform saffron << real puzzler here. who the hell pulls that kind of gag, and why ?
23:18 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: What sort of person cares enough to burn time spamming?
23:19 asciilifeform no ordinary spam. some bozo put in actual sweat for no immediately apparent purpose.
23:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16042 @ 0.00063491 = 10.1852 BTC [-] {2}
23:27 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> no ordinary spam. some bozo put in actual sweat for no immediately apparent purpose. << All spam involves those elements. This just takes it to a different level...
23:28 asciilifeform http://theweek.com/article/index/255243/how-to-kill-americans-with-geometry-a-north-korean-propaganda-film-for-kids << mega-lol
23:28 assbot How to kill Americans with geometry: A North Korean propaganda film for kids - The Week ... ( http://bit.ly/1zD4lNk )
23:30 asciilifeform (linked from a yet-greater megalol, http://cryptome.org/2014/12/hp-nk-cyber-threat.pdf )
23:32 asciilifeform can we get king of nk in the wot ?
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23:56 cazalla given BingoBoingo posted in the original thread, i am inclined to think he responsible for said hijinxs :P
23:56 BingoBoingo cazalla: Well, Jurov dropped the link. NinjaSpamzor is a moderator or some shit on that venue though.
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