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00:00 mircea_popescu lol
00:01 trinque queues queues everywhere
00:05 trinque http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-12#1749758 << nope, though I dunno where you saw http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-12#1749761 happen
00:05 a111 Logged on 2017-12-12 03:27 asciilifeform: trinque: i've wondered for some time , is the thing where your walletron throws pgpciphered matter into the greater void, as in e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-12#1749739 , without the addressee's name in the line -- deliberate design choice ?
00:05 a111 Logged on 2017-12-12 03:27 asciilifeform: often the link pops up hour or moar after the invocation, and i end up clicking, expecting traditional (i.e. plaintext) deedbot material
00:05 trinque there's no wallet op that takes an hour
00:06 trinque http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=from%3Adeedbot+bundle << possible you're thinking of this.
00:06 trinque pops up when a deed bundle's tx is confirmed
00:07 trinque http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-12#1749779 << but I don't oppose this, would be more convenient at no apparent cost.
00:07 a111 Logged on 2017-12-12 03:59 mircea_popescu: yeah. possibly though rule to always put addressee name in line when sending encrypted matter may be useful nevertheless.
00:09 mircea_popescu yee
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00:59 mircea_popescu aaand in other basics for the learners of romanian, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vEiR6Rb92M
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06:49 BingoBoingo <mats> i keep seeing 'traumatic brain injury' in your statements, BingoBoingo << Well, got anybetter short forms for "The Boingo ISP"?
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07:17 BingoBoingo !~ticker --market all
07:17 jhvh1 BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 16515.08, vol: 14391.09884846 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 16616.0, vol: 64100.4744167 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 16730.1, vol: 3598.77950646 | Volume-weighted last average: 16603.309971
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07:43 BingoBoingo !~ticker --market all
07:43 BingoBoingo !~bcstats
07:43 jhvh1 BingoBoingo: Current Blocks: 498897 | Current Difficulty: 1.590896927258E12 | Next Difficulty At Block: 499967 | Next Difficulty In: 1070 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 15 hours, 18 minutes, and 46 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
07:43 jhvh1 BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 16634.0, vol: 14446.13842017 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 16760.0, vol: 64436.5160404 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 16664.1, vol: 3618.62275037 | Volume-weighted last average: 16733.7308386
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10:42 asciilifeform meanwhile in pinoy spamola, http://peltebesining.tk/giwe/asic-bitcoin-miner-schematic-1634.php << image-embeds asciilifeform's lispm keyboard schematic as 'asic miner' . bonus : if loaded via archive.is, gives entirely ~different~ spamola, prolly based on ip block
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10:43 mircea_popescu ahaha
10:43 mircea_popescu ok this is fucking epic
10:44 mircea_popescu it redirected me to some kind of "option trading" scamsite.
10:44 asciilifeform www.loper-os.org/pub/spamola.jpg << for posterity.
10:44 asciilifeform ^ screenshit
10:44 asciilifeform bottom ~half~ of the white box is the item.
10:45 asciilifeform why htmlembedded, not copied -- is anyone's guess.
10:45 mircea_popescu http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/67Lt4/?raw=true << mine
10:45 mircea_popescu asciilifeform bw $$$. they're very sensitive to it, best way to hurt them.
10:46 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: your snapshot is ~= what archive.is gets .
10:46 asciilifeform they prolly have 2 buckets, 'ameritards' and 'other'
10:46 mircea_popescu o wow check it out, this was pretty advanced (class names randomgenerated strings to fool google etc)
10:46 asciilifeform aha, as far as these go.
10:47 mircea_popescu asciilifeform contains eg <img src="http://loper-os.nfshost.com/wp-content/mwredux/mw4_schem_small.png" />
10:47 asciilifeform yea subj
10:47 asciilifeform i suspect these get sucked out of google's image finder thing automagically
10:47 mircea_popescu so basically your blog is a subdomain on nfshost.com is why no ip addressing ?
10:48 asciilifeform if only that
10:48 asciilifeform ( the actual domain loads the thing. the nfs domain also loads. but each gets different ip ~every hour , they have in-house 1990s-era homebrew crapflare item )
10:49 asciilifeform could've sworn i described it here
10:49 mircea_popescu wtf nonsense dns do these people use ? dig doesn't produce an ip ?!
10:49 mircea_popescu asciilifeform nuts.
10:49 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-03#1720008 , http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-18#1726101 , http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-18#1726112 , possibly elsewhere.
10:49 a111 Logged on 2017-10-03 03:05 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-03#1719979 << gotta appreciate this peculiar fact : asciilifeform used nfs co. service since 2007. not misprint : a decade sharp as of a few mo. ago. with ZERO MAINTENANCE and ZERO hassle and ~zero downtime and laughed at GB/s ddoses and do i have to go on ?
10:49 a111 Logged on 2017-10-18 14:20 asciilifeform: and neither of these is a bug, or will ever be fixed, nfs co’s. ddosproofing relies on the dynamic ip shenanigans
10:49 a111 Logged on 2017-10-18 14:58 asciilifeform: ( the sad thing re nfs co, is that it is in fact a kolhoz, quite like amazon's and the rest, but more ancient and built by actual men, vs 'millenial' scum, and so it actually ~works~, and delivers on the promise -- you don't own your hdd, BUT you never have to go down from a dead hdd; you own no ip; BUT no ddos; etc. it however IS STILL A KOLHOZ , with the complacency and inevitable day of doom that comes with this. )
10:49 mod6 mornin'
10:50 mircea_popescu heya
10:50 asciilifeform ohai mod6
10:50 * mod6 waves
10:50 asciilifeform iirc somebody here recently also subscribed to nfsco
10:50 asciilifeform ( hanbot ? )
10:50 mircea_popescu asciilifeform seems very likely google images automated banditry.
10:50 mircea_popescu yeah, thewhet's there now
10:51 asciilifeform turns out, it knows how to eat btc, for a few yrs nao
10:51 mircea_popescu yeh that was part of it.
10:55 deedbot http://trilema.com/2017/the-ecu/ << Trilema - The ECu
10:58 ben_vulpes and in today's pretentions to relevance: https://www.sec.gov/news/public-statement/statement-clayton-2017-12-11
10:58 * mircea_popescu is not clicking
10:58 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: not missing anyffing
10:58 mircea_popescu which, amusingly, is less than rando spammer above managed.
10:58 asciilifeform it's a snore
10:58 asciilifeform the pinoy earlier muchly moarinteresting
10:59 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu forgoing the opportunity to cane the sec? will wonders never cease!
10:59 ben_vulpes they even talk about never having vetted 'crypto-' related securities!
10:59 ben_vulpes no exchange traded anything!
10:59 mircea_popescu eh...
11:03 * asciilifeform found the pinoy on a few other domains, there's a whole system
11:03 mircea_popescu im sure.
11:03 mircea_popescu gotta replace teh viagra spam with something.
11:07 asciilifeform meanwhile in 'The Internet of the Future' ( as pictured in http://www.loper-os.org/?p=208 ) noose : https://www.meo.pt/internet/internet-movel/telemovel/pacotes-com-telemovel << and also it lies to archive.is , so screenshit : http://www.loper-os.org/pub/plebenet.jpg
11:08 mircea_popescu ahaha
11:08 mircea_popescu four euro/month ?! srsly ?!
11:11 asciilifeform meanwhile, https://archive.is/uL4b5 << usg burns yet another of $infinity ssl decrypt methods, to push 'Disable RSA encryption!'
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11:11 asciilifeform ( not, naturally, because it matters worth a shit what pseudocipher plebe uses in sslolade. but to fudspray on rsa per se. )
11:13 asciilifeform ^ uses the 20y.o. nonconstanttimersa privkeyraper. which worx great still.
11:14 asciilifeform ^ and oblig hanno boeck.
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11:32 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-12#1749788 << this is a pretty interesting item, and i suspect a very similar problem in what'll remain of usa.
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11:32 a111 Logged on 2017-12-12 04:22 mircea_popescu: aaand in other ancient trilemas, http://trilema.com/2009/de-mogulibus/
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12:11 asciilifeform but meanwhile-er, in not-at-all-noose, asciilifeform briefly looked into the question of what-would-it-take to make a pci-e FG . found ( e.g. https://archive.is/dGtBI and elsewhere, for the curious ) that it is quite impossible to do with lattice 'ice' or any other small fpga; the complexity is bookcase-length ( supposing one could even ~get~ the req'd docs, many are not only payware but protected via disinfo-flooding )
12:13 asciilifeform i specifically exclude devices like xilinx and altera series with ~built-in~ pcie -- these are not, properly speaking, fpga
12:13 asciilifeform ( you wouldn't call an 'implementation' of e.g. ppc cpu that simply uses xilinx 'virtex' series' built-in ppc core, an implementation. apply same rule to pci.)
12:14 asciilifeform ftr supposed 'fpga' with built-in periphs are simply proprietary gluetraps.
12:14 asciilifeform any and all built-in periphs.
12:25 asciilifeform ( see also http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-21#1701433 and possibly elsewhere. )
12:25 a111 Logged on 2017-08-21 12:00 asciilifeform: 1 level below, x86/arm/pci,sata,usb, etc play same role as unix and microshit -- accumulated layer of sewage
12:26 BingoBoingo En otra cosas: A meeting scheduled for tomorrow morning y entonces the venezualas have referred another firm, meeting to be scheduled
12:29 asciilifeform ohai BingoBoingo
12:30 BingoBoingo Hola asciilifeform
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12:51 asciilifeform how go the adventures of BingoBoingo under the southern cross ?
12:52 BingoBoingo So far so fun. Gradually shifting from cold contacting to contacting the referred. The weather is still unbeatable, and the Brazilian stoners have departed.
12:52 BingoBoingo The hostel is far emptier, may start filling up again later in the week.
12:54 BingoBoingo Also, the local accent is beginning to break into discrete works as opposed to noise. The epic 2.5-3 hour AA meetings here have been an invaluable opportunity to listen to a variety of local speakers one at a time.
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12:57 BingoBoingo La Tienda Inglesia, wonderful source of food. Local fereterias... dismal affairs.
12:58 asciilifeform what's an orc aa meeting typically like ?
13:00 BingoBoingo Well, they keep the opening ceremonies short, there are no time limits on speaking, and the meeting ends when everyone who wanted to speaks. Other than the lack of time pressure much more the same than different.
13:00 asciilifeform this dun tell me anything
13:01 asciilifeform i was asking re subj
13:01 asciilifeform what do they speak about
13:01 BingoBoingo Also like back home they celebrate sober birthdays with various treats. So far there have been delicious brownies and giant chocolates
13:02 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Mostly the same things. Family, work, trudging the walk that is life, the programs, etc
13:03 BingoBoingo The meeting I have been frequenting occurs in giant catholic church, Dracaena trees outside
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14:15 deedbot http://deedbot.org/bundle-498948.txt
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14:49 ben_vulpes "don't keep your files /with/ you, keep your files /in/ you!" https://www.etsy.com/listing/267826934/mature-usb-micro-sd-card-reader-butt
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14:50 asciilifeform !#s arse safe
14:50 a111 4 results for "arse safe", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=arse%20safe
14:57 mod6 lol "plug and play"
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15:02 shinohai Custom orders also available.
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15:39 asciilifeform !!up nocko
15:39 deedbot nocko voiced for 30 minutes.
15:53 danielpbarron !~later tell trinque what's the eta on deedbot withdraw?
15:53 jhvh1 danielpbarron: The operation succeeded.
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16:19 trinque danielpbarron: hm, didn't get a printout. possibly that didn't come back up on the new drive.
16:20 * trinque will run it within the hour
16:21 trinque heh, cups was not set to start at boot, and the box's uptime was so long I never noticed
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16:48 trinque http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/0BSH9/?raw=true << meanwhile check out the worm-hydra chatting up one of my nodes
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16:49 danielpbarron i've been getting that too for the last day or so
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17:17 deedbot danielpbarron: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/ra1Ju/?raw=true
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17:37 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-12#1749913 << aha typical. ( looks like trinque uses malleus ? )
17:37 a111 Logged on 2017-12-12 21:48 trinque: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/0BSH9/?raw=true << meanwhile check out the worm-hydra chatting up one of my nodes
17:39 trinque yep, trb node with the mighty banhammer vpatch
17:40 mod6 boom
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18:13 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-12#1749875 << i imagined you'll enjoy. possibly also teh original to some reference in latest, http://trilema.com/2010/cum-am-ras-astazi/
18:13 a111 Logged on 2017-12-12 16:32 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-12#1749788 << this is a pretty interesting item, and i suspect a very similar problem in what'll remain of usa.
18:15 asciilifeform loox like post-sov-style privatizationvoucher neh
18:15 asciilifeform i suppose this story went the same way ?
18:15 mircea_popescu a, not at all. those existed, in the 90s.
18:16 mircea_popescu this is straight "living wage"-ism deployed by old marginal ro orc politruk trying to get back on horse.
18:16 asciilifeform aaaa i recall this was mentioned
18:16 mircea_popescu just in case victoria nuland needs something to pick.
18:17 mircea_popescu HOW exactly they do this is incomprehensible. but consider : guy who was 3rd echelon politruk under shoemaker ; guy who was too dumb / poorly connected to make anything of the 90s, resurfaces in 2010! with a "proposal" which consists of "here's this adaptation of usg-isms as i understand them".
18:17 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-01-28#1387591 << see also q
18:17 a111 Logged on 2016-01-28 12:46 asciilifeform: i do wonder, do the 'basic income' folks simply not understand the hierarchical role of money? or think that it can be magicked away? or do not, but lie about it ?
18:17 mircea_popescu very ethnologically interesting, but WHAT the fuck makes the orcs produce these ?
18:17 mircea_popescu it's a very similar disbelief to the "what the fuck makes epitelial cells admit ringworm?!?!?!"
18:19 mircea_popescu ie, we imagine "ringworm is a thing", independent and of itself, rather than correctly understanding "ringworm is the PRODUCT of epitelium cells, it is the long whisp remaining out of specific denials", VERY much a http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-11#1697164 item.
18:19 a111 Logged on 2017-08-11 18:37 mircea_popescu: this is how it manages the inapproximable "whisks" of meaning that latin-style then has so much trouble noting down.
18:19 asciilifeform recall phage thread
18:20 mircea_popescu similarily, we imagine the usg is a thing, independent and of itself, rather than correctly understanding "usg is the PRODUCT of what the orcs will believe, very much in the http://trilema.com/2014/la-florida-and-other-places/ sense ; usg is what's left after all the items impossible as far as orcs are concerned were removed ; much like byzantium was "what's left after we eliminated everything the bulgarians wouldn't buy".
18:20 asciilifeform ( renewed interest in phages, since '90s, because -- quite unlike synthetic antibacterial -- no meaningful resistance, the cat and mouse have been fighting for million+ yr )
18:20 mircea_popescu aha.
18:20 mircea_popescu more meaningful than mn+ years : bn+ generations.
18:21 mircea_popescu there will never be a bn generations of humans.
18:21 asciilifeform aha
18:22 asciilifeform tho one could posit that single generation of whatever organism 'counts' moar post-1945. prior, most mutation was afaik accounted for by k40
18:22 asciilifeform which is not so abundant
18:22 asciilifeform ( and not, contrary to schoolboy notion, 'cosmic ray', very little cosmic ray reaches surface )
18:22 asciilifeform but iirc we had this thread.
18:22 mircea_popescu anyway, i had no fucking idea, back in 2010, what a big deal a random photograph of mailboix spam will become in not even a decade. but it IS a huge deal. consider -- that guy, who IS NOT the proponent, WROTE!!! by hand!!! ie just like http://trilema.com/2017/of-ducks-and-lameness/ !! so as to stuff my mailbox with xerocopies.
18:23 mircea_popescu why ? why would a dude too dumb to distinguish facebook from the internet do this ?
18:23 asciilifeform gotta wonder why by hand. 'luxor centre' charged a funbux too much ?
18:23 mircea_popescu i doubt it's that. i suspect orc simply did not know what this wordprocessor thing is.
18:23 mircea_popescu he had a xerox in his mental space because readily available and cheap (lotta students live nearby) ; but not a wp.
18:24 asciilifeform but compared with current wordprocessor folx, betcha d00d knew some elementary grammar, say.
18:24 mircea_popescu he evidently didn't need a spellchecker.
18:24 * mircea_popescu looks over it again lesseew
18:25 asciilifeform reminds me, when su was a going concern, 'классическое образование' usually referred to pre-1917 gymnasium, latin, greek, etc. but apparently ~today~ folx on ru net refer to su-era school as classical.
18:26 asciilifeform because ~same level of sinkage towards africa.
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18:26 asciilifeform next stop -- africa proper.
18:26 mircea_popescu Dragi concetateni, Dupa cum stiti OTV-ul are campanie de culegere de semnaturi in sprijinul legii Cojocaru in cadrul emisiunii lui Tudor Barbu : "Se intimpla acum". Am pornit din proprie initiativa o mica campanie pe Bd. Gh. Lazar pentru ca sunt blocuri turn cu multe familii pe scara desi [...]
18:26 mircea_popescu it's clean romanian and well composed. also shockingly honest.
18:26 asciilifeform because actual person.
18:26 mircea_popescu likely, yes.
18:27 asciilifeform and so i won't laugh at him simply because he eschewed buying a comp.
18:27 mircea_popescu well, certainly in a way no redditard/hackernewstard/etc could ever be suspected.
18:27 asciilifeform real person. and they dun make'em nomoar.
18:27 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i am laughing at him because of many other things ; included among them that he DIDNT eschew buying comp, simply did not understand what it was.
18:28 mircea_popescu i eschew buying fucking apple laptop. he eschews nothing.
18:28 asciilifeform i imagine 1 simple litmus would be to learn whether d00d in the end did buy a crapple.
18:29 mircea_popescu well, litmi as the researcher decides. but to my eyes, the simple fact that he imagines this is how democracy works as a statal matter ("dragi concetateni" is "beloved fellow citizens", ie smacking very much of "les trois glorieuses", not that he'd know) is enough.
18:30 mircea_popescu this EXACT fellow, living in 2010, was in fact satirized in... 1880! by caragiale.
18:30 * asciilifeform recalls the trilema re subj
18:30 mircea_popescu you might greatly enjoy conu leonida fata cu reactiunea btw, ever read that one ?
18:30 asciilifeform dun think so
18:32 mircea_popescu the winner part for this discussion being "EFIMIȚA: Dacă n-o mai plăti niminea bir, soro, de unde or să aibă cetățenii leafă?
18:32 mircea_popescu LEONIDA (în luptă cu somnul): Treaba statului, domnule, el ce grije are? pentru ce-l avem pe el? e datoria lui să-ngrijească să aibă oamenii lefurile la vreme..."
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18:32 mircea_popescu https://ro.wikisource.org/wiki/Conu_Leonida_fa%C8%9B%C4%83_cu_reac%C8%9Biunea < whole thing
18:32 * asciilifeform puts in pipe.
18:33 mircea_popescu (dude's idea of the progressive republic that the reactionary evil men don't let good folk build is a state where it's illegal to pay your debts. his wife inquires whence will people be paid [because evidently everyone's employed by the state, it is after all 1880s romania], and he says that's the state's fucking problem, what's it for!)
18:34 asciilifeform iirc hanbot alluded to this item in 'shall be delivered'
18:34 mircea_popescu this understanding is judicious : unless "the state" manages to get dosh out of india or whatever the fuck to pay living wages for people at home to be "british citizens" there ain't gonna be no fucken empire!
18:35 mircea_popescu so to get back to mr crisan quoted above : the reason he isn't sitting atop a computer/car/hairblower/starbucks coffee cup is that he doesn't yet understand HOW such item would forward / is requisite for his notion of "a republic" == usgstan. because that is ABSOLUTELY ALL he is interested in, and will give no half a spare cycle to any other consideration, period and fuck you.
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18:36 mircea_popescu the dedication of the imperial peons is remarkable, worthy of a greater goal as it may find itself.
18:36 asciilifeform 'just want'
18:37 mircea_popescu but i am convinced that strictly, very and absolutely strictly the only reason why mr adrian crisan is spending his afternoon writing up that and then xeroxing it in preference of say "editing wikipedia" or "working for google" as a "moderator" is that he does not perceive how the later would deliver him more usg empire per unit effort than the former.
18:37 mircea_popescu so he's not eschewing anything, he's just as pantsuit as the pantsuited hilarity herself.
18:37 mircea_popescu just, he was born orc and she was born east coast hottie.
18:37 asciilifeform ( possibly interesting that the ancients knew about the sin of 'just wanting', and hence fables about wish-granting sessions Gone Horridly Wrong etc )
18:39 mircea_popescu it's not altogether clear to me that he wants anything for himself,
18:39 mircea_popescu above and besides the "worker's paradise" as described in badly penned fiction of the recently literate cca 1910s.
18:40 asciilifeform orc wants whichever paradise he conceives his orcistan as having been derailed from
18:40 asciilifeform i dun see the 'life was so inconceivably sweet before the fr rev' d00d as so different.
18:40 mircea_popescu i dunno.
18:41 mircea_popescu i suspect actual item orc wants is a land where there's no smart people.
18:41 mircea_popescu in the very strict sense of "anyone whose name you'd see in schoolbooks"
18:41 asciilifeform no 'carnivorous' smartpeople, at any rate
18:41 mircea_popescu he doesn't specifically care if it's 1500s german peasant life, ie, outright medieval peonage. just as long.
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18:42 mircea_popescu yeah, no offensive jews, as discussed in the http://trilema.com/2013/the-dead-jew-and-the-raped-girl/
18:42 mircea_popescu none of those "better than you" folk.
18:42 mircea_popescu right, that's it. he just dun want to there be any jews. clearly unites nazi antisemitism with soviet antisemitism with etcetera. socialism, ie, dear lord protect us dumbasses from our betters.
18:43 mircea_popescu "that's the state's job, man, to make sure!" ie, exact empire.
18:43 asciilifeform this is mircea_popescu's passive-and-active article all over again, neh.
18:43 mircea_popescu indeed.
18:43 mircea_popescu well this was a productive discussion!
18:45 asciilifeform speaking of passive actives, asciilifeform found that FG runs ok ( it wants just 8mA @ 5v, recall ) from a https://archive.is/P9vC1 contrievance . a la 1990s serial mice. this seems useless until you look inside server and notice the convenient two rs232 headers in there.
18:46 asciilifeform and incidentally i oughta ask the folx tuned in, whether there is demand for mass-produced mounting kit for FG-in-1U , that'd include this item + mechanical dildo for hanging from a pci slot bracket.
18:46 mircea_popescu meanwhile, in other productive discussions that never were, i expect NOT A SINGLE ONE of the various "experts" in their own mind, economists, political theorists, whatnot will actually engage http://trilema.com/2017/the-ecu/ ; much like buffett "couldn't find shorts" back in the days of http://trilema.com/2014/an-era-ends-today-a-new-era-starts-today/ and just as http://trilema.com/2015/the-harry-potter-challenge/ never happe
18:46 mircea_popescu ned for that yudkowsky character and just as so following.
18:47 mircea_popescu (speaking of which -- bitcoin DID overperform Berkshire over the interval. by... somewhat of a margin.)
18:47 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: their strategy is http://btcbase.org/log/2014-06-04#700916 solidly today as in 2014.
18:47 a111 Logged on 2014-06-04 00:08 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the buggers' traditional defense is to pretend that the event was a non-event - or, if this is impractical, to continue living in an imaginary world where they 'scooped' the story first, and all of the 'unsanctioned' discussion never happened.
18:47 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i dun know yet, gotta see what BingoBoingo comes up with.
18:47 mircea_popescu conceivably might sacrifice an u per rack to fgs ?
18:48 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: bad idea, you ~really~ dun want external cabling to these.
18:48 mircea_popescu ah right.
18:48 mircea_popescu antennaing
18:48 mircea_popescu anywya, this matter to remain open.
18:48 asciilifeform not only radiates. but makes life far too easy for the 'control vertical and horizontal' busybodies.
18:48 mircea_popescu as to the above : these are marginal schmucks! their only chance to matter is to go be meaningful in faraway lands.
18:49 asciilifeform mine are going into the boxes proper. q is whether it is worth turning into a catalogue item.
18:50 mircea_popescu in other sads, fetlife profile now getting >100 pieces of mail a day. da fuck am i gonna do, assign slave to manage it ?
18:50 asciilifeform lol they unkickbanned it ?!
18:50 mircea_popescu hm ?
18:51 mircea_popescu ah, different one. doh.
18:51 asciilifeform aaa
18:51 mircea_popescu "banning". you know.
18:51 asciilifeform for a sec i thought they did a formal surrender.
18:51 mircea_popescu pretty sure i'd have said something.
18:53 mircea_popescu anyway, turns out the under-30 female crowd is nuts about baby turtles
18:53 mircea_popescu who could have predicted, totally nao.
18:54 asciilifeform ye olde lolcatz obsolete or wut
18:54 mircea_popescu apparently.
18:54 asciilifeform nuts.
18:55 mircea_popescu anyway, "AI" consisting of hello-and-1-response is seeing > 50% success rate. can you imagine this ?
18:55 mircea_popescu even fucking eliza had a) less success and b) more preloads.
18:55 asciilifeform on which end this ai ?
18:55 mircea_popescu talk about http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-12#1749955
18:55 a111 Logged on 2017-12-12 23:26 asciilifeform: because ~same level of sinkage towards africa.
18:55 asciilifeform mircea_popescu's ? or the females-with-turtles-emulator-service
18:56 mircea_popescu asciilifeform just a simple "hello how goes it ?" ??? | grep for a "how about you" if found feed a "great, here's turtles". works shockingly well.
18:57 mircea_popescu in fact, it works so well i expect even idiocy a la http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-12#1749817 delivers. the quality of the chumps is so fucken low...
18:57 a111 Logged on 2017-12-12 15:42 asciilifeform: meanwhile in pinoy spamola, http://peltebesining.tk/giwe/asic-bitcoin-miner-schematic-1634.php << image-embeds asciilifeform's lispm keyboard schematic as 'asic miner' . bonus : if loaded via archive.is, gives entirely ~different~ spamola, prolly based on ip block
18:58 asciilifeform i'm still not convinced that spamism is anything but 'fat-powered' item . likely, the chumpers dun have a hundy between them, collectively
18:58 mircea_popescu <30yo females don't need a hundy.
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18:58 asciilifeform also not convinced that any flesh-and-blood females ever go near 'dating site'
18:58 mircea_popescu fetlife apparently exception.
18:59 asciilifeform interesting.
18:59 * asciilifeform wholly unequipped to even guess as to why.
18:59 mircea_popescu it's what they do 10-20 years before beaching over on okcupid, as best as my xenomorph psychology studies dept can explain
18:59 mircea_popescu asciilifeform because youth is fundamentally transgressive as part of what it even fucking means.
18:59 asciilifeform thing's about as transgressive as joining komsomol.
18:59 mircea_popescu 1980s teens gotta be "that chick from that mtv video "crazy"".
18:59 mircea_popescu and 2010s chicks gotta be on fetlife, apparently.
19:00 mircea_popescu asciilifeform you don't understand how the cuntbrain works.
19:00 asciilifeform apparentlynot
19:00 mircea_popescu it'd better not fucking BE transgressive. it has to just be transgressive, geddit ?
19:00 asciilifeform transgressive(tm)(r) eh.
19:01 asciilifeform 'learn 21 daring sex positions in 21 days'-sort
19:01 mircea_popescu suppose you're 16yo girl. are you going to a) tell your mom you hate her, which is transgressive except for how she read you were gonna do that in a book when you were 6 ; or b) join isis so as to shoot your classmate in the face by the time you're both 24 ?
19:02 mircea_popescu "she was a (((journalist))) (((working))) in irak, the dumb fucking bitch. man that wet thud of her brain on concrete was fucking satisfying, i went back into the foxhole and rubbed myself raw"
19:02 asciilifeform my understanding is that even the isis candidates do it to get fucked well
19:02 mircea_popescu mebbe
19:03 mircea_popescu but it sure is ~actually~ transgressive, as opposed to expectedly.
19:03 asciilifeform can count ~these~ on fingers of 1 hand.
19:03 mircea_popescu myeah.
19:04 asciilifeform ( as in, chix went to break heads on own power, with 0 prompting )
19:04 mircea_popescu incidentally, speaking of orc techs, could oyu believe that schmuck in new york ? so... in preference of walking into gun shop, buying gun, killing half the town, this dude "made" bomb, which sure as fuck cost more than a walk-in in terms of effort and more than a grand in terms of dough, to... burn himself with it.
19:05 mircea_popescu "i can scarcely apprehend the confusion of ideas" etc.
19:05 asciilifeform approx as lame as most of the small arms people , who (with a few notable exceptions ) manage to put entire crate of ammo to waste and maybe injure 4 or 5
19:05 mircea_popescu i can't conceive how this'd happen in times square
19:05 mircea_popescu (pro tip : buy AP ammo, kill 4-5 per shot. op is a thing.)
19:06 asciilifeform phunphakt, it's the cheaper type in usa
19:06 mircea_popescu aha!
19:06 asciilifeform fmj 7,62 is what folx practice with
19:06 mircea_popescu but seriously, metro! think about it, people line up to get in! and line up de facto once in! for like a quarter mile, like this! fire six bullets in enfilade, produce 50 dead and 500 wounded.
19:08 asciilifeform 1 type of idjit copies hollywood shootout, wastes crate of ammo, kill 0-dozen . other type of idjit copies camelfuckollywood, builds pipe bomb etc , kills ~0
19:08 mircea_popescu ikr ?
19:08 asciilifeform both fundamentally same thing, however. mindless copy.
19:08 mircea_popescu meanwhile, the fucking fun that could be had. "buy gun, carry on person, use metro all day long, wait for a power outage where train goes dark"
19:09 mircea_popescu or... wait for train to almost pull in, shoot, keep mental bets between your multiple personalities as to whether falling into pit from pressure of squirming mob will do more damage than gunfire./
19:09 asciilifeform one could easily fill a thick book with these. ( in 1970s someone ~did~, but usg unhappened it and composed 'anarchist cookbook' full of items optimized to kill user )
19:10 mircea_popescu anarchist jargon file of the elders of sinai hospital!
19:10 asciilifeform lol
19:10 asciilifeform incidentally afaik in every major arson fire, stampede killed moar than smoke/flame
19:10 mircea_popescu yup.
19:10 mircea_popescu unavoidable.
19:11 asciilifeform the derps can't wait to do ~themselves~ in.
19:11 mircea_popescu which is why yelling fire more dangerous than setting fire.
19:14 asciilifeform the rub is that typical 'postalist' is not a thinking agent, on a mission, but a d00d watching a sort of movie inside his head
19:14 asciilifeform even the 'slow and patient' vegas fella recently.
19:14 mircea_popescu indeed.
19:14 mircea_popescu oh, that one especially.
19:14 asciilifeform arguably 'had fun' but from a 'mission' perspective -- atrocious
19:14 mircea_popescu it is a sad comment on the general utility and efficacity of "the state" that had the officious intermeddler "security guard" not intervened, dood probably would have watched the whole concert off his fence.
19:15 mircea_popescu makes one wonder how many of these weren't disturbed by "security", never shot anyone.
19:15 asciilifeform quite a few barrels in usa. most never speak.
19:15 asciilifeform sit , instead, in a cellar, rust.
19:15 mircea_popescu (also amusingly, nobody, not even a latter day tsp, dared make the obvious point -- moral assassin, the hotel guard.)
19:28 mircea_popescu !~google 1986 miami shootout
19:28 jhvh1 mircea_popescu: 1986 FBI Miami shootout - Wikipedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1986_FBI_Miami_shootout>; The 1986 Miami Shootout : The gunfight that changed law ...: <http://www.guns.com/2011/08/24/the-1986-miami-shootout-the-gunfight-that-changed-law-enforcement-nationwide/>; 1986 Miami FBI Shoot Out - YouTube: <https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D04dUCT-qO3c>
19:28 mircea_popescu there's a list of cases where "attacked party produced more damage to attacker than sustained self". it's remarkably short, and it's remarkably tapering -- much more cases in the 80s than in the 2010s.
19:31 asciilifeform if folx were going for actual efficacy, they'd be arming themselves with petrol-in-pressurewasher, or at the most high tech -- gasses.
19:31 asciilifeform but nope. they are watching mental movie.
19:31 mircea_popescu not really. problem with those is no range.
19:31 mircea_popescu !#s die tired
19:31 a111 6 results for "die tired", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=die%20tired
19:31 asciilifeform not as if most of the shooters made use of max rifle distance.
19:32 mircea_popescu sure.
19:32 asciilifeform they've worked, typically, at musketry range.
19:34 asciilifeform fire truck with petrol could cremate, theoretically, whole streets.
19:34 mircea_popescu yes well. flamethrower effectual when enemy pinned down, such as in bunker, pillbox or clearing trenches.
19:35 asciilifeform what's urban man if not pinned.
19:35 ben_vulpes paging sergeant shaftoe!
19:35 asciilifeform and what's a e.g. block of flats, if not awkward kind of pillbox.
19:35 mircea_popescu the WTC made that point quite well.
19:36 asciilifeform aaha
19:42 pete_dushenski hola!
19:43 mircea_popescu how goes
19:43 pete_dushenski pretty swell, yourself ?
19:44 mircea_popescu lol.
19:44 mircea_popescu as per teh logs...
19:45 * pete_dushenski catches up
19:47 pete_dushenski http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-11#1749327 << BingoBoingo not sure i properly congratulated you on pulling the chute! digging the reportage thus far.
19:47 a111 Logged on 2017-12-11 13:20 deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2017/12/11/el-primero-domingo-en-montevideo-for-the-midwestern-rube/ << Bingo Blog - El Primero Domingo En Montevideo For The Midwestern Rube
19:47 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> mine are going into the boxes proper. q is whether it is worth turning into a catalogue item. << I see it hard to imagine how people could want to vacation here without such a contrivance in the box they leave behind to colocate
19:50 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-12#1749871 << https as entirely worthless as ever ; though evidently i don't expect smartypants a la eg http://trilema.com/2017/lets-revisit-the-google-is-irrelevant-discussion/#comment-123821 to perceive THEIR DUTY to now mourn / worship in compensation.
19:50 a111 Logged on 2017-12-12 16:11 asciilifeform: meanwhile, https://archive.is/uL4b5 << usg burns yet another of $infinity ssl decrypt methods, to push 'Disable RSA encryption!'
19:51 mircea_popescu they only perceive their duty to http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-12#1749979 ie push the empire ; their percived duty never is to personally change so as to fit the republic
19:51 a111 Logged on 2017-12-12 23:35 mircea_popescu: so to get back to mr crisan quoted above : the reason he isn't sitting atop a computer/car/hairblower/starbucks coffee cup is that he doesn't yet understand HOW such item would forward / is requisite for his notion of "a republic" == usgstan. because that is ABSOLUTELY ALL he is interested in, and will give no half a spare cycle to any other consideration, period and fuck you.
19:51 asciilifeform linked largely for the 'so you think constanttime is optional' lulz.
19:51 mircea_popescu i suppose this reduces the discussion to "there's two kinds of bipedals, the monkey and the human. the monkey dedicates itself to building wail groups, and the human to not needing to."
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19:53 mircea_popescu in other lulz, lol@terrorist tree in jail.
19:55 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-12#1749890 << this is actually so clever i think ima add it to the standard mp ops manual.
19:55 a111 Logged on 2017-12-12 17:54 BingoBoingo: Also, the local accent is beginning to break into discrete works as opposed to noise. The epic 2.5-3 hour AA meetings here have been an invaluable opportunity to listen to a variety of local speakers one at a time.
19:57 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-12#1749901 << considering i made ~the item artisanally... o hey check that out, anally!
19:57 a111 Logged on 2017-12-12 19:49 ben_vulpes: "don't keep your files /with/ you, keep your files /in/ you!" https://www.etsy.com/listing/267826934/mature-usb-micro-sd-card-reader-butt
19:57 mircea_popescu anyway, i expect there's a market.
19:57 asciilifeform 'Kraft knew a lot more than I did about wines, and he often brought home cobwebby treasures to go with a meal. But, even though Kraft always had a filled glass before him when we sat down to eat, the wine was all for me. Kraft was an alcoholic. He could not take so much as a sip of wine without starting on a bender that could last a month. That much of what he told me about himself was true. He was a member of Alcoholics Anonymous, h
19:57 asciilifeform ad been for sixteen years. While he used AA. meetings as spy drops, his appetite for what the meetings offered spiritually was real. He once told me, in all sincerity, that the greatest contribution America had made to the world, a contribution that would be remembered for thousands of years, was the invention of A.A.'
19:58 BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: ty
19:58 asciilifeform re BingoBoingo's item. ( from, naturally, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-30#1744671 )
19:58 a111 Logged on 2017-11-30 16:01 asciilifeform: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/Eznv2/?raw=true << whole thing, ftr. 31333337 w4r3z !111
19:58 mircea_popescu i was always suspicious of this "could not" business. really, you can't ?
19:59 mircea_popescu ran into this lots of times, most chicks are smokers, and most "can't" have a smoke like normal people without turning into their old x packs a day habit over time.
19:59 mircea_popescu then comes the first cold turkey + beating & berating for it, then the second...
19:59 mircea_popescu eventually once there's no hidey hole for "i just can't help myself" and no fucking benefit to binging whatsoever... they can./
20:00 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-12#1749890 << this is actually so clever i think ima add it to the standard mp ops manual. << Funny how incidental self care part of the plan becomes lynch pin.
20:00 a111 Logged on 2017-12-12 17:54 BingoBoingo: Also, the local accent is beginning to break into discrete works as opposed to noise. The epic 2.5-3 hour AA meetings here have been an invaluable opportunity to listen to a variety of local speakers one at a time.
20:00 asciilifeform loldunlookatme, i dun like developing dope tolerances at all
20:00 asciilifeform defeats the whole point , neh
20:01 mircea_popescu well... kinda the whole point of smoking, neh ? "it just... relaxes me, man" "and how do yo uthink it does that ?" "i don't know, there's some like brain receptors or something"
20:01 mircea_popescu mmmmmyeeah...
20:01 asciilifeform how to smoke -- is possibly the 1 item where the red man had right idea.
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20:01 mircea_popescu what was that ?
20:01 asciilifeform ~monthly
20:01 mircea_popescu liek religious ritual thing ?
20:01 mircea_popescu aha. yeah.
20:01 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> i was always suspicious of this "could not" business. really, you can't ? << Well advised not to. Once started who knows when stopping happens
20:02 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo i wouldn't avise "free agents" to try, that's for damn sure.
20:02 mircea_popescu but slavegirl is safe in that "tell you what, how about i crack your skull open ?" is very... relaxing.
20:03 BingoBoingo Anyways comparing/contrasting results of past two years vs previous ten makes the case
20:03 * mircea_popescu believes.
20:04 BingoBoingo But in a world full of stoned brazilians, one has to have a vice to be trusted, so tobacco returns for now.
20:04 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-12#1749904 << ahahaha and the one liner of the day award goes to...
20:04 a111 Logged on 2017-12-12 19:57 mod6: lol "plug and play"
20:05 asciilifeform re subj of link, seems like uniquely poor idea from opsec pov , for some reason usg likes to search arse ~first~ , sometimes even they leave the rest of the 'patient' alone. as with the famous fella pictured in old thread, who ate a pistol inside a police station, while already booked, on camera
20:05 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-12#1749913 << o ya, timing is extremely useful tool in teh arsenal.
20:05 a111 Logged on 2017-12-12 21:48 trinque: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/0BSH9/?raw=true << meanwhile check out the worm-hydra chatting up one of my nodes
20:06 mircea_popescu then again i guess a good third of all trilema convos are about that.
20:06 mircea_popescu asciilifeform it's for play pretend.
20:06 asciilifeform gotta wonder then , pretend-what.
20:06 asciilifeform pretend-i-am-a-disk-drive ?
20:07 mircea_popescu consider : take chick to restaurant, do things to her, on cam, then put the files on her buttdrive and have her carry it next time you eat at that restaurant.
20:07 mircea_popescu "hey... remember..." etc.
20:07 asciilifeform lolk.
20:07 mircea_popescu perversity longa.
20:07 BingoBoingo Anyways, after meeting with accountant tomorrow will likely publish first piece on developing annoyances with subsets of the locals.
20:08 mircea_popescu gotta bitch or else it's not a real blog!
20:08 BingoBoingo The fucking sniffling spasm, What the everloving fuck. Go home and leave polite society until you discover the handkercheif.
20:09 shinohai Hey BingoBoingo that little Pink Elephant guy was kinda cute.
20:10 BingoBoingo tyvm shinohai
20:10 mircea_popescu !#s brain fag syndrome
20:10 a111 0 results for "brain fag syndrome", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=brain%20fag%20syndrome
20:10 BingoBoingo When I saw it and the zoo I wondered if maybe they'd been trilema'd
20:10 BingoBoingo forget to look
20:10 mircea_popescu !~google brain fag syndrome
20:10 jhvh1 mircea_popescu: Brain fag syndrome - Wikipedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_fag_syndrome>; Brain fag syndrome : a culture-bound syndrome that may be ...: <https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4706136/>; Brain Fag Syndrome in Africa | ANP204 – Introduction to Medical ...: <http://anthropology.msu.edu/anp204-us13/2013/07/19/brain-fag-syndrome-in-africa/>
20:10 mircea_popescu ^ in other orc lulz.
20:11 asciilifeform is this another korean fan death
20:11 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo a painted elephant ? i have not really been literally everywhere already, cmon.
20:11 mircea_popescu asciilifeform aha! except it's a "school's too hard" somatization.
20:12 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: It's near the closed zoo in Montevideo
20:14 BingoBoingo Or as the locals call it "The planetaria"
20:15 shinohai I hadn't heard the term "Pink Elephant" in years ... last time was when I got a bunch of bennies to make sobering up from 3 day binge easier.
20:15 BingoBoingo Looks like you did the lilly shot better http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/ur-1-25.jpg vs www.thedrinkingrecord.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/P1000054-768x576.jpg
20:16 mircea_popescu well you know, works best if you get them in the shadow
20:17 BingoBoingo At the time, that stretch of street lacked shadow. This part of Montevideo has comfortable shaded walks full of sycamores and scorching sun galleries.
20:18 mircea_popescu oh, in other great eggogs : 走火入魔 ie "life energy cultivation error" aka "something has gone wrong in your chigong"
20:20 shinohai Sounds like a weaboo sex robot error.
20:20 mircea_popescu could be!
20:21 mircea_popescu "Holy shit Freud is spelled with an e not an a ? I had been spelling it wrong all these years and had no idea!"
20:21 BingoBoingo lol
20:21 BingoBoingo brb, voy a la cama
20:26 pete_dushenski http://archive.is/xnjyJ << kinda humorous. mostly for costco > standford for learning about best of amerikan kapitalism.
20:27 pete_dushenski "The Western Elite from a Chinese Perspective by Puzhong Yao"
20:33 asciilifeform 'We talked about microaggressions and feelings and empathy and listening. Sometimes in class the professor would say things to me like “Puzhong, when Mary said that, I could see you were really feeling something,” or “Puzhong, I could see in your eyes that Peter’s story affected you.” And I would tell them I didn’t feel anything. I was quite confused.' << lol
20:34 asciilifeform 'Eventually I was able to meet the chief financial officer of my favorite company, Costco. He told me that they don’t hire any MBAs. Everyone starts by pushing trolleys. (I have seriously thought about doing just that. But my wife is strongly against it.) Maybe, I thought, that is why the company is so successful—no MBAs!'
20:35 asciilifeform 'Warren Buffett has said that the moment one was born in the United States or another Western country, that person has essentially won a lottery. If someone is born a U.S. citizen, he or she enjoys a huge advantage in almost every aspect of life, including expected wealth, education, health care, environment, safety, etc., when compared to someone born in developing countries. For someone foreign to “purchase” these privileges, t
20:35 asciilifeform he price tag at the moment is $1 million dollars (the rough value of the EB-5 investment visa). Even at this price level, the demand from certain countries routinely exceeds the annual allocated quota, resulting in long waiting times. In that sense, American citizens were born millionaires!'
20:35 asciilifeform ahahahahahahahaha
20:35 asciilifeform born millionaires, didjaknow
20:36 asciilifeform which must be why it costs usa inmate 750k usd to trade his shitpassport for one in sad old europistan, for instance.
20:38 * asciilifeform looked at date of linked item. 2017. nope, not 1987, somehow.
20:38 asciilifeform not even '97.
20:38 asciilifeform nuts.
20:42 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2014-02-14#503954 << see also !
20:42 a111 Logged on 2014-02-14 17:26 mircea_popescu: ok, so school in soviet russia
20:57 mircea_popescu "really feeling" as opposed to, importantly, "not really" feeling. it's a matter of degree not of reality that's being spoken to
20:59 mircea_popescu the "lottery" theory is very much in the vein of "when one is born male, one gets advantages", ie, statistical retrofitting. the past 30 years have well proven that there's no causality there -- yes people who were born male i nthe past also coincidentally later developped into enviable positions. but the maleness was not germane, as proven by the sad scum that is just as biologically male born these days, and holds all the p
20:59 mircea_popescu ower and prestige of used dishwashing sponges.
21:00 mircea_popescu but as the old saying goes, "if anyobne's selling it, you don't want to buy it".
21:00 asciilifeform 'spiffy jet you got there. now let's see how well it flies WITHOUT ENGINES muhahahhaa'
21:01 mircea_popescu in other "lottery winning", for the past half hour while taking shower i've been mulling over the dilemma of whether i can be arsed to go over to fine restaurant have their absolutely fabulous porterhouse or not really.
21:02 mircea_popescu obviously puţong yao doesn't know what he doesn't know, and consequently his lowly herbivore status remains enviable in his mind only.
21:03 asciilifeform inevitable q, aha, is what exactly the dazed confucian d00d finds 'enviable'
21:03 mircea_popescu well, a lot of other women sitting around gossiping about how enviable she is, evidently.
21:03 mircea_popescu since i'm supposed to believe that "quotas are exceeded" is some kind of argument.
21:04 mircea_popescu tell you what, the pancreatic cancer quotas are routinely exceeded each year since 1972 also!
21:04 mircea_popescu that's why they're quotas in the first fucking place : undesirable activities, harmful for everyone. if they weren't, they... wouldn't be quotas, holy hell.
21:06 asciilifeform fwiw ( and supposing the item is true as written ) i dun get why usg would say no to an idjit willing to pay $mil to move to usgistan
21:06 mircea_popescu throws the curve. same reason kids dun want mp to move into their class.
21:06 asciilifeform hm.
21:06 mircea_popescu azn with 1mn to throw around is like salt for the ivy mills.
21:07 mircea_popescu at least if he's poor -- then some sort of kowtowing could perhaps be instilled. and even so...
21:07 asciilifeform that'd explain why the quota appears to be filled by camelfuckers
21:07 mircea_popescu yes.
21:08 mircea_popescu why the fuck would anyone with two neurons to rub together ~actually want~ to work for costco is impossible to divine. it's a dead, commoditized item, that's like research physicist desiring to work at cnc mill. wtf to do there ?
21:08 mircea_popescu makes me suspect entirely engineered item, it dun stand up to plain reading.
21:08 mircea_popescu ~every chinese mba i ever met however remotely wants to work for three-white-names-you-never-heard-of financfial firm.
21:09 asciilifeform aha, but in the linked item conveniently replaced with goldmansachs
21:09 mircea_popescu which doesn't either hire them or is sought by them
21:09 mircea_popescu gs hires ivy spew, and quite plainly and deliberately.
21:10 asciilifeform nomenklatura.
21:10 mircea_popescu if they had a kickbacks scheme with eg stanford bs i would be utterly unsuirprised.
21:10 mircea_popescu asciilifeform quite. whereas where the smart azn kids wanna go is into the firms "retired" ex gs doods start.
21:10 mircea_popescu the sort with 10 employees and 10bn in "cash".
21:10 mircea_popescu i guess actually this'd be the best approximation for tmsr currently, at that.
21:11 mircea_popescu in fiat terms
21:12 asciilifeform oh hey hey hey lbj
21:12 asciilifeform !!up gabriel_laddel
21:12 deedbot gabriel_laddel voiced for 30 minutes.
21:13 mircea_popescu i think this takes the cake. yo why TRIPLE on/off login wtf is this
21:13 asciilifeform ikr?
21:13 asciilifeform d00d must be on a propane-powered modem
21:13 gabriel_laddel Just got out of jail, in SF, scored & M install
21:13 gabriel_laddel not caught up on logs
21:13 asciilifeform lol!!
21:13 asciilifeform jail for what
21:14 gabriel_laddel on roof wasn't supposed to be on
21:14 gabriel_laddel (working)
21:14 mircea_popescu "farting and landing" patch on "breaking and entering" ?
21:15 gabriel_laddel I was computing so they stuck me into mental.. no charge
21:15 gabriel_laddel police were impressed with me
21:15 mircea_popescu well that's something.
21:16 asciilifeform lucky job, gabriel_laddel , iirc last d00d with laptop-on-roof was hanged ( aron schwarz )
21:17 mircea_popescu east coast neh ?
21:17 asciilifeform aha, mit
21:17 mircea_popescu shittier place, the east coast.
21:19 gabriel_laddel PG was right about CA fwiw. temp matters
21:20 mircea_popescu meanwhile somewhere else, http://78.media.tumblr.com/e06d70a0a8e20cf0f56b79e7c5a678a0/tumblr_nkha1dEwrj1tmf8ldo1_400.gif
21:21 asciilifeform gabriel_laddel: waiwat
21:21 asciilifeform matters for what
21:21 gabriel_laddel http://www.paulgraham.com/siliconvalley.html
21:23 mircea_popescu if that nonsense were true costa rica would consist of 50% of the world's tech minds.
21:23 mircea_popescu it isn't.
21:24 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-08#1748752 << obligthread
21:24 a111 Logged on 2017-12-08 15:01 asciilifeform: for some reason the beautiful equatorial mild valley bananistans, never grew anything in the way of interesting ~people~
21:24 mircea_popescu california exists principally out of having (accidentally, but nevertheless) well managed the gold rush.
21:25 mircea_popescu sparked off accidentally with actual gold, then supported pre and post ww2 by the choice of film industry to move away from the mob rackets (and they succeeded, when the mob caught on and tried to invade the movie folk got the usg to tear it a new hole) and finally post 1960 by the ic folk.
21:26 mircea_popescu the "web 2.0" "mobile" etc "revolutions" however failed to catch, so its port is getting sanded as we speak.
21:28 asciilifeform 100% printolade-powered, today.
21:30 mircea_popescu yes but so is zimbabwe
21:31 mircea_popescu anyuay, the quoted piece from a 1990s bit from a local landlord. as such it reflects the predominantly hopeful mood of the landed gentry at the time "yes, it's a downturn portion of a cycle but that's what cycles are".
21:31 mircea_popescu meanwhile however the 90s turned into the 00s and in turn into the 10s and well...
21:31 mircea_popescu no cycle.
21:32 asciilifeform printer prints, prints, nonstop tho. hence 'space station' square metrage price.
21:32 mircea_popescu sure.
21:33 * asciilifeform many times offered work in ca, equally many times refused. 'tell me why i should take the double pay , so as to pay 3x for flat, and it will have roaches , why ? '
21:34 asciilifeform what do folx need to have inside their crankcase, to swallow it.
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21:35 asciilifeform as it is, i haven't even mustered the givingashit to go there as pure tourist
21:35 mircea_popescu asciilifeform are you aware the colorful ( of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-08#1748888 lolz) manson fellow ended up with like two dozen under-20 chicks in tow ?
21:35 a111 Logged on 2017-12-08 20:34 mircea_popescu: incidentally, can anyone recount teh helter-skelter charlie mason scenario of risk, the game of world-diplomacy and international intrigue ?
21:35 mircea_popescu "what did they have in crankcase ?" you ask ? drugs, man.
21:35 asciilifeform aha, iirc d00d died recently
21:35 mircea_popescu yea
21:36 asciilifeform iirc also was never shown to have nailed anyone with own hands, or even contracted.
21:36 mircea_popescu indeed not.
21:38 mircea_popescu but i mean, REMARKABLY fucking idiotic. dude's idea was that rando movie star is important, on the basis of i dunno, all he ever read was vanity fair i guess
21:38 mircea_popescu or not even. fucking vogue, something. who even thought rando what's-her-husbands-name is important in the 60s ?
21:39 asciilifeform the heads of people-without-theorems, unless properly embedded into some variant of peasantry/army/slavery, will grow fungal bloom
21:39 asciilifeform and it will look like this, or like camelfuck variant, or like any other.
21:40 asciilifeform hell, bernstein et al ~with~ theorems still went to ~same place.
21:40 mircea_popescu so is your question answered then ?
21:40 asciilifeform possibly.
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22:11 mircea_popescu meanwhile in forgotten lulz, http://trilema.com/2012/lets-dig-a-little-deeper-into-this-entire-deflation-problem/#comment-92662
22:11 mircea_popescu apparently "goodbye" doesn't mean goodbye in EXACTLY the same way no doesn't mean no.
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