| 2024-03-29 | crtdaydreams | http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/pest/2023-09-12#1030804 << is this currently the only standing mirror of pentacle? |
| 2024-03-29 | * | signpost needs to shit out a depgraph of pentacle. thing's minimally intertwingled aside small. |
| 2024-03-29 | signpost | why I'm still grunting pentacle forward, albeit slowly. |
| 2023-10-06 | bitbot | Logged on 2023-10-05 19:35:46 signpost: pentacle builds a static bin of phf’s vtools |
| 2023-10-05 | gregorynyssa | Also, does Pentacle, as a whole, assume a sixty-four bit environment? |
| 2023-10-05 | dulapbot | Logged on 2023-10-05 19:33:52 signpost[asciilifeform]: pentacle builds a static bin of phf’s vtools |
| 2023-10-05 | signpost | pentacle builds a static bin of phf’s vtools |
| 2023-09-27 | crtdaydreams | you're refering to pentacle? |
| 2023-09-21 | * | shinohai has been behind curtain, experimenting with pentacle - got it running in a qemu vm after building custom initramfs and recompiling busybox to use `CONFIG_RUN_PARTS` so could ifup/down and ssh in remotely .... |
| 2023-09-14 | signpost | if you spelunk in the scripts comprising pentacle and the various builds, you'll see BUILD, HOST, and TARGET variables |
| 2023-09-14 | signpost | another option would be to see how cross-compilation goes from an already-built pentacle |
| 2023-09-14 | bitbot | Logged on 2023-09-12 14:17:52 shinohai[jonsykkel]: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-08-30#1030166 << In attempt to assist with this on the pentacle side of things, I mirrored it all here: http://btc.info.gf/devel/pentacle/ |
| 2023-09-12 | lobbes | I've very little experience with chroot, but from my initial research it seems that this is because debootstrap is trying to chroot into a amd64 filesystem, whereas my pinebook is aarch64. I'll abandon pentacle-on-pinebook for now if so, but wanted to see if I'm missing something simple here |
| 2023-09-12 | lobbes | has anyone tried bootstrapping pentacle on aarch64? I bought one of those pinebooks and was experimenting putting a pentacle environment on it |
| 2023-09-12 | shinohai | http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-08-30#1030166 << In attempt to assist with this on the pentacle side of things, I mirrored it all here: http://btc.info.gf/devel/pentacle/ |
| 2023-09-06 | gregorynyssa | billymg: signpost: I would like to download the files of Pentacle as well. |
| 2023-09-05 | signpost | pentacle torrent -> magnet:?xt=urn:btih:b075225228d8e6964bafe30e63b7e6e11d6206c1&dn=pentacle&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3A80 |
| 2023-09-05 | shinohai | GM Pestizens! If there is any reader here that tinkers with trinque's pentacle and would be so kind as to share a tarball of their `src/` vtree, I would greatly appreciate. |
| 2023-08-24 | dulapbot | Logged on 2023-08-24 01:08:12 signpost[asciilifeform]: I'm working on a swarm download mechanism that's less complicated than bittorrent (occ) and will eventually distribute pentacle over that. |
| 2023-08-24 | dulapbot | Logged on 2023-08-24 01:08:12 signpost[asciilifeform]: I'm working on a swarm download mechanism that's less complicated than bittorrent (occ) and will eventually distribute pentacle over that. |
| 2023-08-24 | signpost | I'm working on a swarm download mechanism that's less complicated than bittorrent (occ) and will eventually distribute pentacle over that. |
| 2023-08-24 | signpost | I'm intentionally only relying on things that can be done from pentacle. |
| 2023-08-21 | shinohai | awt: was the chroot issue only one you had during bootstrap of pentacle? I'm still getting debootstrap errors such as "E: Couldn't download file:debs/dists/stretch/main/binary-amd64/Packages" etc. Had to manually insert keys since apparently "deb.debian.org" wants to redirect to "archive.debian.org" - sadly I nuked last in |
| 2023-08-18 | asciilifeform | gregorynyssa: signpost's pentacle links statically, you can do precisely same thing there |
| 2023-08-18 | gregorynyssa | signpost: I would be glad to speak further about Pentacle since it has some commonality with my own work. |
| 2023-08-05 | gregorynyssa | signpost: What are some of the particular advantages of Pentacle? |
| 2023-07-30 | signpost | http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-07-30#1029255 << yes, phf's work. I collected his patches and subsequent authors' work in pentacle. |
| 2023-07-30 | gregorynyssa | Since the packages are .deb files, it means that Pentacle must be used on a Debian-based OS, is that right? |
| 2023-07-30 | gregorynyssa | http://problematic.site/src/pentacle/ << Pentacle consists of a shell-script and a set of Debian packages? |
| 2023-07-30 | gregorynyssa | awt: I fear not. Is Pentacle the name of a program? |
| 2023-07-26 | bitbot | Logged on 2023-07-25 19:04:41 awt[signpost]: asciilifeform: updated docs to remove references to virtulenv, and swapped out v.py for the bash v included with pentacle. Re-genesised with the updated docs. Gonna try and cut down on the number of patches. Blatta had way too many bugfix patches. |
| 2023-07-25 | awt | asciilifeform: updated docs to remove references to virtulenv, and swapped out v.py for the bash v included with pentacle. Re-genesised with the updated docs. Gonna try and cut down on the number of patches. Blatta had way too many bugfix patches. |
| 2023-07-25 | signpost | worked with the v.sh bundled in pentacle fwiw |
| 2023-07-18 | signpost | yeah, same goes for codegen like the automake cruft currently preserved on pentacle's dissection table. |
| 2023-07-09 | awt_akris | http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-07-08#1028046 << Looking forward to this. I may try to get python3 + tkinter building in pentacle. |
| 2023-07-07 | awt_akris | Pentacle built successfully! |
| 2023-07-07 | awt_akris | Ok after removing pentacle and unpacking again, getting further. |
| 2023-07-07 | awt_akris | Still trying to get pentacle to work on my system. Trying to figure out why chroot is not where it is expected to be. I don't see any attempts to symlink it. |
| 2023-07-06 | signpost | at any rate, if one wants to read some patches, the patches that actually comprise an e.g. built trb are there, in pentacle's /src/ dir. |
| 2023-07-03 | phf | the only reason i mentioned pentacle is because pentacle's approach is one other alternative to tarballs, and the people who are just tuning in might misunderstand the original intent. whether or not your approach is the valid one, from historic tmsr perspective, it's different, an |
| 2023-07-03 | awt_akris | http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-07-02#1027705 << Would like to add that I DO understand that pentacle solves this problem. Still working on getting pentacle to work on my system. Hopefully the solution will be helpful to others. |
| 2023-07-02 | asciilifeform | per asciilifeform's pov, awt's pestrons, or signpost's pentacle, or billymg's logger, are heroic feats, rather than some kinda 'fulfilled obligation' |
| 2023-07-02 | * | asciilifeform suspects fwiw that phf not has a box with signpost's pentacle yet, and so still on state of art circa '19. but not knows for certain |
| 2023-07-02 | signpost | pentacle is the state of the post-tmsr world, as was. |
| 2023-07-02 | phf | fwiw awt asked for "phf's vtools", but what's in pentacle is not phf's vtools, because it has a bunch of patches that were added later by people that i don't know, and that i don't think anybody has actually read. i'm giving a background on this sad state of things. |
| 2023-07-02 | phf | sible to the user like in pentacle were both originally seen as invalid approaches |
| 2023-07-02 | phf | dated with the patches that were produced by third parties after i quit tmsr, and that i haven't had a chance to integrate. cursory look those patches are of dubious quality, but they are included with e.g. pentacle |
| 2023-07-01 | shinohai | Nope, never had that issue. Pentacle built flawless for me (but on Gentoo, never PoopOS). |
| 2023-07-01 | awt_akris | signpost: currently seeing this error attempting to build pentacle: http://paste.deedbot.org/ |
| 2023-07-01 | awt_akris | signpost: perfect! ty. was aware it could do this but link between v <-> pentacle somehow was deleted in my mind. |
| 2023-07-01 | awt_akris | signpost: http://trinque.org is not loading for me at the moment. I am out of date on where you're hosting pentacle. |
| 2023-07-01 | signpost | It is present in my pentacle system |
| 2023-03-24 | signpost | and I'm in between projects over here so I'm gonna go ahead and work on a webpage for pentacle today |
| 2023-03-24 | signpost | all v trees I've collected into pentacle are in there |
| 2023-03-24 | signpost | I used it because it works with the busybox shell, didn't have to add python or a lisp to core pentacle deps |
| 2023-03-23 | * | signpost really owes a pentacle website since whole point was eliminating per-desk toolchain ??? of this kind |
| 2023-03-23 | signpost | this lineage as built by pentacle, iirc phf's plus work by bvt and possibly others |
| 2023-01-29 | * | signpost wrote pentacle for this, and even there one can go "omg, there's a perl in it" |
| 2022-12-28 | bitbot | Logged on 2022-12-28 18:27:14 signpost: once I shit down pentacle vpatches I'll take up a few gigs of everyone's chain just with that. |
| 2022-12-28 | signpost | once I shit down pentacle vpatches I'll take up a few gigs of everyone's chain just with that. |
| 2022-12-16 | * | signpost not ironically proposing that whatever deps get pulled into pentacle as vpatches |
| 2022-12-16 | * | signpost needs to fart the pentacle site out soon too, but will do this deedbot noob-outpost thing first |
| 2022-12-16 | signpost | could get pentacle farting out a static build of that easily |
| 2022-11-15 | * | signpost also needs to get a site up for pentacle, because it was trivial to drop the thing in and build. no reason I shouldn't have posted a vpatch of hac in the same sitting. |
| 2022-11-15 | signpost | nice, will pop it in pentacle and see if it builds. oughta |
| 2022-11-07 | shinohai | http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-11-06#1015670 << yeah was just gonna say he should use trinque's pentacle because it is far easier to get gnat that way. |
| 2022-07-08 | signpost | probably hold off on recommending pentacle as it's lacking a proper website and instructions yet. |
| 2022-07-08 | billymg | was about to propose updating those with pentacle build instructions |
| 2022-07-08 | billymg | i literally just took the binary that pentacle spit out, threw it on the server, and ran it -- no extra tweaking necessary (other than a few -addnode flags passed at startup to seed it with peers) |
| 2022-07-08 | billymg | btw if anyone here (or any log readers) don't have a trb node running yet, it was stupid easy using pentacle |
| 2022-07-04 | billymg | i used pentacle for generating the binary and just threw that up on the server, seems to be syncing at a good pace |
| 2022-05-30 | shinohai | Reminds me I gotta clean up python pbuild and see what signpost thinks about it - that w/ sqlite was all I needed to get it running under pentacle chroot. |
| 2022-05-25 | shinohai | Dicking about with signpost 's pentacle here. Smalpest running A++ from it. |
| 2022-05-20 | shinohai | Testing smalpest from pentacle .... |
| 2022-05-18 | shinohai | Yeah it got through configure fine on pentacle (for terminfo) - so far the tls lib thing is only wall I've hit. |
| 2022-05-18 | shinohai | jfc can't get an irc client working under pentacle - weechat: wants gnutls. irssi: wants glib-2.0. Mite be stuck with `ii` for now. |
| 2022-05-16 | * | shinohai also plans to mirror pentacle src tree soon .... |
| 2022-05-15 | * | shinohai still tinkering with x86 pentacle, haven't circled back to arm build yet. |
| 2022-05-10 | shinohai | fwiw bash 5.1 builds flawlessly on pentacle if ya build without malloc |
| 2022-05-10 | shinohai | I'm downloading pentacle to a shit phone w/ termux gonna see if it build there. (In 9+ hours when it finishes xD ) |
| 2022-05-09 | billymg | signpost: i'm building pentacle now. when i first tried i got the error "couldn't work out current architecture". i added '--arch=amd64' right after line 60 in bootstrap-debian.sh and now it seems to be working |
| 2022-05-09 | signpost | my intent is to make targeting another arch brain-dead simple on any pentacle instance; you'll see me passing BUILD/HOST/TARGET through pbuild to that end. |
| 2022-05-09 | signpost | will very much appreciate your and others help making pentacle more useful, and keeping the thing tidy/small. |
| 2022-05-08 | shinohai | pentacle is the shit isn't it? |
| 2022-05-08 | awt | Having v in pentacle is great for n00bs. So much easier to get started. |
| 2022-01-30 | * | signpost has been collecting these for an eventual pentacle poast |
| 2022-01-30 | signpost | in my own adventures on pentacle, got the vpatches separated out today. http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=feQp |
| 2022-01-28 | * | signpost has been grunting in his shitwaders in pentacle for what, 2yrs now, and fountaintron about same. |
| 2022-01-27 | signpost | yeah, that is reasonable, and in fact this is what "pentacle" is |
| 2022-01-27 | * | signpost dealt with this in pentacle, but considers software that "requires" empty files broken |
| 2022-01-27 | signpost | http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-01-27#1003218 << agreed, I use also to bootstrap pentacle on a system which doesn't yet have v. |
| 2022-01-27 | signpost | yeah, practically speaking I wish to lop of a lot of caked, gnarled hair-and-shit off pentacle after initial release. |
| 2022-01-26 | signpost | asciilifeform: cuntoo script wasn't debian-based, but I did add a dulap bootstrap script for ya on pentacle. |
| 2022-01-26 | signpost | alrighty, will keep pentacle. |
| 2022-01-26 | * | asciilifeform thinks 'pentacle' is a mighty fine title |
| 2022-01-26 | signpost | incidentally still haven't named the thing to my satisfaction, ended up "pentacle" because asciilifeform noticed the ansi art in a readme of early cut. |
| 2022-01-26 | * | signpost has vpatches for src and separate vpatches for musl compatibility for the items going into "pentacle" |