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07:00 gregorynyssa Hello.
07:01 gregorynyssa This is the Java implementation of Pest.
~ 39 minutes ~
07:40 awt wb gregorynyssa
~ 26 minutes ~
08:07 gregorynyssa awt: Great to hear from you again. Do you have any screenshots of your new program Akris Desktop?
~ 36 minutes ~
08:43 signpost neato awt, going to try it out now
08:48 awt gregorynyssa: screencast
08:57 signpost shinohai: didn't you have a pbuild for python pulled together?
08:57 * signpost has one sooomewhere, but if yours is handy
~ 20 minutes ~
09:18 signpost awt: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=jplV << how do I get this working?
09:22 awt signpost: if that .so file doesn't exist, you will need to do pip install -e . from the akris directory to build it.
09:22 signpost ah derp
09:23 signpost ty
09:23 awt np
09:26 signpost lol @ "staticx"
09:26 * signpost puts on wisconsin death trip
09:31 * awt checks spotify...
09:31 signpost it's total garbage
09:31 signpost but you know, I was a kid once
09:32 awt lol didn't click play but now I get the reference
09:33 signpost seems like desktop wants there to be images in a folder that aren't.
09:34 signpost started up regardless, just can't build a singular binwad
09:36 awt signpost: yeah - vdiff can't deal with image files. Haven't figured out how to distribute them.
09:37 awt You need python3.11 to be able to get a static build. You may be missing other deps. Can you post the output?
09:37 signpost static build worked, but for desktop `make dist` wants those images
09:38 signpost just didn't snip that part out
09:38 * signpost about to peer up the desktop client, sec
09:38 awt ah dang - yep.
09:40 s1gnp0st test from akris_desktop
09:40 signpost neato
09:40 awt sweet
09:40 signpost nice job awt!
09:41 awt ty signpost!
09:41 signpost it's chugging together the message history now
09:41 awt excellent
09:47 s1gnp0st !!ticker btc usd
09:47 deedbot $29,206
09:49 signpost man, I wish trb synced this well!
09:49 awt lol!
~ 39 minutes ~
10:29 asciilifeform http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-07-24#1028773 << a++! will try it tonight
10:29 bitbot Logged on 2023-07-24 22:28:51 awt[signpost]: Akris Desktop 99999 and Akris 99999
10:29 asciilifeform http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-07-25#1028775 << wb !
10:29 bitbot Logged on 2023-07-25 07:01:18 gregorynyssa[deedbot|signpost]: This is the Java implementation of Pest.
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10:59 awt signpost: missing images sig
11:04 gregorynyssa http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/pest/2023-07-25#1029220 << Thanks.
11:04 dulapbot Logged on 2023-07-25 08:47:17 awt[asciilifeform]: gregorynyssa: screencast
11:10 awt gregorynyssa: have you implemented address cast?
11:13 gregorynyssa http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/pest/2023-07-25#1029260 << Not yet but I have all of the necessary pieces.
11:13 dulapbot Logged on 2023-07-25 11:08:32 awt[asciilifeform]: gregorynyssa: have you implemented address cast?
11:15 awt Ah ok. In that case maybe update your port for my station to 54000 - IP should be the same.
11:17 gregorynyssa http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/pest/2023-07-25#1029263 << Sadly I no longer have our signing/encrypting key. I will generate another.
11:17 dulapbot Logged on 2023-07-25 11:14:17 awt[asciilifeform]: Ah ok. In that case maybe update your port for my station to 54000 - IP should be the same.
11:31 asciilifeform awt_akris: oddity while pressing the genesis
11:32 gregorynyssa http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/pest/2023-07-25#1029266 << Did you implement V in Ada?
11:32 dulapbot Logged on 2023-07-25 11:29:34 asciilifeform: awt_akris: oddity while pressing the genesis
11:37 awt asciilifeform: wat means?
11:43 awt asciilifeform: this is how I tested it: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=20t5
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12:08 asciilifeform a the patch aint got 'a'/'b'
12:08 asciilifeform awt: which v.py were you using ? ( asciilifeform's original chokes on such patches )
12:11 awt asciilifeform: not using v.py - just using vdiff and vpatch. Vpatch command is: vdiff -r -N akris akris-genesis > akris-genesis-$latest_version.vpatch
12:13 signpost worked with the v.sh bundled in pentacle fwiw
12:13 * signpost not sure whether that means bug in v.sh, or bug in ???
12:16 awt Ah yeah - blatta vdiff process involved a/b directories.
12:22 awt Why must this layout be used?
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12:37 asciilifeform awt: was following the instructions in http://v.alethepedia.com/akris_desktop/ , so assumed 'oh hey worx with v.py'
12:37 asciilifeform awt: the a/b thing was never hard-specified, but rather 'cemented in' ad-hoc in early days of vpatches
12:38 asciilifeform fwiw asciilifeform's v.py which he uses to this day does require the dirs to be different (not necessarily 'a' and 'b' tho)
12:38 awt asciilifeform: got it.
12:40 asciilifeform http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-07-25#1028826 << this was phf et al's vdiff
12:40 bitbot Logged on 2023-07-25 11:32:20 gregorynyssa[deedbot|signpost]: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/pest/2023-07-25#1029266 << Did you implement V in Ada?
12:40 dulapbot Logged on 2023-07-25 11:29:34 asciilifeform: awt_akris: oddity while pressing the genesis
12:41 * awt admittedly failed to get v.py working on my build system - tried porting it to py3, but required gnupg lib didn't support py3, - updated gnupg - api interface was not backward compatible. So I'm just doing it the old fashioned way patch by patch.
12:45 asciilifeform hmm awt why the dependency on virtualenv ?
12:46 awt asciilifeform: not a strict dependency.
12:46 asciilifeform ( wai can't simply run 'python3 bin/main.py' )
12:46 asciilifeform ( see eggog )
12:47 awt I find it very nice for development as a way to ensure a clean, up to date, indenpendent dependency tree.
12:47 awt asciilifeform performed pip install -e ../akris from within akris-desktop?
12:48 signpost oughta work just by installing w/e globally
12:48 * asciilifeform not likes 'installing' things, makes over9000x harder to fiddle with'em ad-hoc
12:48 awt if not using a venv, then yes, should work if akris is installed from anywhere. Haven't tried.
12:49 * asciilifeform liked how blatta not req'd any kinda installs
12:49 awt asciilifeform: the -e option fixes that for me. kind of "symlinks" the package so you can "live edit" from the project dir.
12:50 asciilifeform awt: i'ma try it as given, will take longer tho, haven't 'virtualenv' here and box is in a state where installing it is nontrivial
12:51 awt asciilifeform: ack
~ 1 hours 5 minutes ~
13:56 awt it may be possible to:
13:57 awt *python setup.py build
14:03 awt Alternatively, if you don't want to use virtualenv, you can use something like pyenv. If you use the -e (--editable) option with pip install, you can fiddle with the akris/akris-desktop source from where you've unpacked it, rather than deep inside wherever your python installs packages.
~ 30 minutes ~
14:34 * signpost wagers the approach most compatible with asciilifeform's box will be to emerge the pydeps, then run the coad directly with python3
14:36 asciilifeform unrealatedly, meanwhile, in heathendom lulz.
14:37 asciilifeform ^ straight-out 'internet of the future' hell, they took off the mask, etc.
14:38 asciilifeform ( archived copy )
14:40 signpost don't (be evil)
14:40 * signpost utterly unsurprised that this is being moved forward.
14:41 signpost soon only Trusted Devices on the public web
14:41 asciilifeform oblig endgame
~ 4 hours 8 minutes ~
18:50 asciilifeform meanwhile, in yet-other misc. lulz.
18:51 awt asciilifeform: looks like no need to install virtualenv. Can use the python -m venv venv command instead. Included with any recent py3. Updating the docs momentarily.
18:56 asciilifeform awt: ty, will look (for nao must bbl)
19:04 awt asciilifeform: updated docs to remove references to virtulenv, and swapped out v.py for the bash v included with pentacle. Re-genesised with the updated docs. Gonna try and cut down on the number of patches. Blatta had way too many bugfix patches.
~ 4 hours 11 minutes ~
23:16 awt billymg: what do you think about adding an "infographic" Pest protocol explainer to pestnet.io?
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