| 11:12 |
billymg |
!!ticker btc usd |
| 11:12 |
deedbot |
$29,420 |
| 11:13 |
billymg |
awt: am i going to need to fiddle with ports to get akris working from my residential isp? |
| 11:20 |
billymg |
hrm, nm, i see akris is using 8080 so it must be something else |
| 11:33 |
awt_akris |
peer billymg |
| 11:33 |
awt_akris |
lol - and I still managed to send a command as a message |
| 11:34 |
billymg |
awt: i think i need to set up port forwarding in my router(s) |
| 11:34 |
billymg |
isp modem -> router 1 -> router 2 (don't ask) |
| 11:37 |
awt_akris |
Ok. If you want to configure your at for awt it's the same IP address but at port 54000 now. |
| 11:42 |
billymg |
the default for akris is 8080 UDP, right? |
| 11:42 |
awt |
billymg: are you trying to get the osx build working on your laptop? |
| 11:42 |
billymg |
awt: no, on linux, i figured out why enter wouldn't submit |
| 11:42 |
billymg |
http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-07-28#1029106 |
| 11:42 |
bitbot |
Logged on 2023-07-28 13:58:08 billymg: turning off numlock fixed it |
| 11:43 |
awt |
oh sweet! yeah default pest port is 8080. |
| 11:44 |
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billymg brb |
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| 14:27 |
gregorynyssa |
awt: Have you tested Akris on Windows? |
| 14:28 |
gregorynyssa |
I asked two friends to test ChinaPestProgram on macOS. Unfortunately the GUI lags. |
| 14:30 |
gregorynyssa |
The problem likely originates in the way that Java's AWT subsystem is implemented upon macOS. |
| 14:30 |
gregorynyssa |
The program is still operable on macOS but the frame-rate of the GUI drops to 1-2. |
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| 14:30 |
gregorynyssa |
On Windows, even on a weak laptop, the frame-rate is around 60. |
| 14:40 |
gregorynyssa |
billymg: Are you the author of pestnet.io? |
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| 14:44 |
gregorynyssa |
If so, thanks for having hosted and reformatted the specification of Pest. |
| 14:51 |
gregorynyssa |
Vex: I can send you a copy of ChinaPestProgram if you want to join #pest. |
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| 15:08 |
gregorynyssa |
Vex: Do you have a GPG key? |
| 15:11 |
gregorynyssa |
I could not find your name in wot.deedbot.org. |
| 15:21 |
gregorynyssa |
asciilifeform: If I might ask, did the advent of GPT 3.5 and 4 exceed your expectations regarding what neural networks are capable of? |
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| 15:22 |
gregorynyssa |
Or did you know all along that these capabilities were coming (and that members of the general public would have access). |
| 15:22 |
gregorynyssa |
Sorry if this is a slightly grave question. |
| 15:25 |
gregorynyssa2 |
Testing again with a variant username. |
| 15:31 |
billymg |
http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-07-30#1029236 << yup and ty |
| 15:31 |
bitbot |
Logged on 2023-07-30 14:40:49 gregorynyssa[deedbot|signpost|PeterL]: billymg: Are you the author of pestnet.io? |
| 15:32 |
billymg |
awt: ok, so i stood up an akris station on my macbook and have it peering fine with my gentoo box over the local network |
| 15:32 |
billymg |
the two stations can talk to each other |
| 15:33 |
billymg |
so either a) my port forwarding is messed up somewhere upstream (with one of the routers or the isp modem), or b) my isp is blocking 8080 |
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| 16:29 |
gregorynyssa |
billymg: asciilifeform: I wanted to mention that I would be interested in sharing the source-code of my client. |
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| 16:29 |
gregorynyssa |
I sent a copy to `signpost` already (but since then I have done some important refactoring). |
| 16:30 |
signpost |
yeah consider releasing as vpatches |
| 16:30 |
gregorynyssa |
I have also created an .msi installer for Vex, assuming that he uses Windows. |
| 16:31 |
gregorynyssa |
signpost: I must confess that I have not yet used V. Later I will try it. |
| 16:33 |
gregorynyssa |
signpost: asciilifeform: Does any of the V programs contain its own implementation of the diff(1) algorithm? |
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| 16:46 |
awt |
gregorynyssa: I have not tried it on windows. Should work, but I don't know what needs to be installed in order to be able to compile the serpent encryption library. |
| 16:50 |
awt |
gregorynyssa: have you read about pentacle? You can build vpatch and vdiff with it. |
| 16:53 |
gregorynyssa |
awt: I fear not. Is Pentacle the name of a program? |
| 16:54 |
gregorynyssa |
http://problematic.site/src/pentacle/ << Pentacle consists of a shell-script and a set of Debian packages? |
| 16:54 |
gregorynyssa |
Is that right? |
| 16:54 |
awt |
billymg: another option (of which you may already be aware) is to build a linux binary, upload it to a server, and connect akris desktop to it using ssh port forwarding (gotta set the --remote option). Otoh, would be nice to figure out the port forwarding issues locally. |
| 16:57 |
awt |
gregorynyssa: as well as a set a vpatches. |
| 16:58 |
gregorynyssa |
Since the packages are .deb files, it means that Pentacle must be used on a Debian-based OS, is that right? |
| 16:58 |
gregorynyssa |
Would Ubuntu qualify? |
| 16:59 |
gregorynyssa |
My favorite distribution of Linux among the well known ones is Slackware. |
| 16:59 |
gregorynyssa |
I am required to use Ubuntu for work, though. |
| 16:59 |
gregorynyssa |
signpost: I just read this article of yours: http://trinque.org/2022/03/31/deadlock/ |
| 17:00 |
gregorynyssa |
That is not a bad summary of late German thought. Doctrines of this sort pervade Spengler's writings as well. |
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| 17:16 |
awt |
gregorynyssa: I don't believe a debian based system is required, since most here have successfully built pentacale on gentoo. |
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| 20:07 |
signpost |
thanks; I still think the wot is a necessary cultural tool in properly answering nietzsche. |
| 20:08 |
signpost |
btw I have begun a draft of the pentacle readme |
| 20:08 |
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signpost will continue to flesh this out |
| 20:09 |
signpost |
http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-07-30#1029255 << yes, phf's work. I collected his patches and subsequent authors' work in pentacle. |
| 20:09 |
bitbot |
Logged on 2023-07-30 16:33:08 gregorynyssa[signpost|deedbot|PeterL]: signpost: asciilifeform: Does any of the V programs contain its own implementation of the diff(1) algorithm? |
| 20:20 |
gregorynyssa |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/pest/2023-07-30#1029775 << The README explains a lot. |
| 20:20 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2023-07-30 20:06:19 signpost[asciilifeform]: btw I have begun a draft of the pentacle readme |
| 20:20 |
gregorynyssa |
This is similar to "sbase" from suckless.org. |
| 20:21 |
signpost |
yep apt comparison |
| 20:24 |
gregorynyssa |
Is the presence of the "dists" and "main" folders in /debs intentional? |
| 20:24 |
gregorynyssa |
http://trinque.org/src/pentacle/debs/ |
| 20:27 |
gregorynyssa |
This reminds me of when I went through the package-list of Slackware and tried to narrow down the most useful packages. |
| 20:29 |
signpost |
yeah, I had to provide those to satisfy debootstrap using that as a package source |
| 20:30 |
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signpost bbl |