00:03 |
mircea_popescu |
<undata> if I had a few mil, I'd try to build a greenhouse on a barge << barge powered by ethanol, lemme guess ? |
00:04 |
mircea_popescu |
<asciilifeform> try moving your only 1mil overseas, intact << if it makes you feel any better, when i left romania (the first time) i gave away large chunks of what otherwise'd been "wealth". |
00:04 |
mircea_popescu |
just like if al saud decides to leave saudi arabia he's not likely going to SELL it. |
00:07 |
decimation |
mircea_popescu: as to our conversation a few days ago about what King Louis XVI could have done about the socialist uprising, perhaps one answer is that actual people everywhere have an interest in damping the enthusiasm of this kind of mob |
00:07 |
mircea_popescu |
sure, so you have an interest. what now ? |
00:08 |
decimation |
I suppose these kinds of counterfactuals always factor down to 'should have killed private Schicklgruber' |
00:10 |
mircea_popescu |
looky here, dying empires don't dampen the mob. that's a job for the earlier times. |
00:10 |
mircea_popescu |
back when men still believed in the future of the entire construction, the effort and inclination to take children and wives over the knee can readily be summoned. |
00:11 |
mircea_popescu |
once it's fate is sealed, who can be bothered ? would you punish your children for misbehaving in a nuclear shelter ? |
00:11 |
decimation |
yeah that's a good point. especially if some homeless laut is peddling a false hope in the corner over there |
00:12 |
mircea_popescu |
let em have fun, what. |
00:12 |
decimation |
and so what comes is a generation of spoiled brats, willing to listen to whoever is promising bread & circuses |
00:21 |
mircea_popescu |
http://jim.com/killer.htm |
00:21 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1xW72Zq ) |
00:21 |
mircea_popescu |
"Let Gingrich and Gore hail the arrival of the information superhighway that "the people" can use to talk back to our "leaders." Their illusive dream of "participatory democracy" will be short-lived. |
00:21 |
mircea_popescu |
Because this highway doesn't lead to Washington." |
00:21 |
mircea_popescu |
quite. |
00:21 |
mircea_popescu |
no roads lead to washington, actually. |
00:21 |
mircea_popescu |
"The information revolution will transform the politics of power just as surely as the broadcast media did 70 years ago. Only this time, power will devolve back toward its sources, not inward toward demagogues seeking to gather it. The Net will subvert the centralized economic and social control mechanisms that allowed the great welfare-warfare states[33] of the 20th century to dominate our commerce, our psychic landsc |
00:21 |
mircea_popescu |
ape and even our definition of who we are." |
00:23 |
mircea_popescu |
Wait for the day when citizens, incessantly polled by leaders trying to jump out in front of each passing parade, don't even bother answering the questions. "Do you feel that your group is going to get its fair share of the booty your elected representatives plan to pilfer from that group?" Get lost. |
00:23 |
mircea_popescu |
I am an American, but my children will be free citizens of the Net. They may reside in this country[22] or that, but their economic and social intercourse will effortlessly span the globe. |
00:23 |
mircea_popescu |
this guy should get some sort of journalism reward. |
00:31 |
decimation |
yeah Jim has a point, it seems to me the Internet has a tendency to empower the periphery at the expense of the center |
00:31 |
decimation |
when communication between the outposts becomes cheap, a giant bureaucracy to 'coordinate' things suddenly seems redundant |
00:33 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.00042577 = 8.0896 BTC [+] |
00:40 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00042577 = 4.6409 BTC [+] |
00:44 |
undata |
mircea_popescu: I have no philosophical objection to burning gas |
00:44 |
undata |
whatever the cheapest power plant is at the time will do |
00:45 |
undata |
I'd plan on still making software for money in such a scenario |
00:49 |
undata |
I think I could stomach enough human contact to tank up. |
00:50 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71350 @ 0.00041602 = 29.683 BTC [-] {3} |
00:53 |
ben_vulpes |
<mircea_popescu> and im pretty sure isis is the first place with a serenissima embassy, for that matter. << this exists in point of fact? |
00:55 |
ben_vulpes |
i miss all the good logs. |
00:57 |
ben_vulpes |
<bagels7> can i use a credit card << no but he does accept payment in tits, albeit roundaboutly |
00:58 |
ben_vulpes |
;;later tell bagels7 can i use a credit card << no but he does accept payment in tits, albeit roundaboutly |
00:58 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
01:07 |
ben_vulpes |
ah hilarious |
01:08 |
ben_vulpes |
the RT iPhone app is a million times better than the WSJ's |
01:09 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18700 @ 0.00042577 = 7.9619 BTC [+] |
01:12 |
ben_vulpes |
ditto for al jazeera |
01:12 |
decimation |
I tried to use the deutsche welle app once, it crashed my phone |
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~ 15 minutes ~ |
01:28 |
ben_vulpes |
!up Vexual |
01:29 |
Vexual |
I was just saying, when you're emailing your local member of parliment, realise that it might not be he that reads it, and know what you're selling |
01:31 |
ben_vulpes |
<mircea_popescu> <cazalla> bagels7: the beatings were way worse than any bdsm "master" i had <<< lol same << lol wait, bagels7 is into bdsm ? << the funny thing here is that *cazalla* is XD |
01:31 |
cazalla |
am not |
01:32 |
Vexual |
senate comittee starts tommorrow |
01:32 |
ben_vulpes |
lady doth etc etc |
01:32 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33398 @ 0.00042883 = 14.3221 BTC [+] {2} |
01:35 |
Vexual |
free rabbits |
01:36 |
ben_vulpes |
i'll pay for some rabbit stew |
01:37 |
Vexual |
^ ditto |
01:38 |
Vexual |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4smim2MNvF8 |
01:43 |
Vexual |
i'd roast it up with some oranges |
01:43 |
Vexual |
sweet meat |
01:44 |
Vexual |
ive been vego for a while |
01:44 |
Vexual |
i'd eat a galah |
01:45 |
cazalla |
Vexual, ya mate zhenya fucked up |
01:45 |
cazalla |
http://qntra.net/2014/11/digital-btc-lose-bitcoin-com-au-by-mistake/ |
01:45 |
assbot |
Digital BTC Lose Bitcoin.com.au By Mistake | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1uzOQNX ) |
01:45 |
Vexual |
who now? |
01:46 |
cazalla |
i've dealt with the auDA fuck heads before, tried to take mah domains off me |
01:46 |
Vexual |
hes not a mate or an associate |
01:46 |
cazalla |
i emerged victorious! |
01:46 |
cazalla |
Vexual, yeah yeah :P it was a joke |
01:47 |
Vexual |
i read the anual report tho |
01:48 |
Vexual |
it's not his main business |
01:49 |
Vexual |
although the model is quite nice |
01:52 |
Vexual |
his bitcoin consulting fees were higher than his directors renumeration |
01:53 |
Vexual |
they made some good moves |
01:54 |
Vexual |
but theres still this interface between the bitcoin pace and the asx or whatever |
01:55 |
Vexual |
Yo can watch tmz and dcc, and that melbourne thing that never floated |
01:56 |
cazalla |
bitcoin group? that guy who is trying to float got social engineered lol and lost like 100 btc and he wants to run a company when he is so stupid to click emails |
01:56 |
Vexual |
really? |
01:56 |
Vexual |
i thought they were supposed to float a few weeks back? |
01:57 |
Vexual |
what form you do put in when you fail like that? |
01:57 |
cazalla |
nah, postponed he says |
01:57 |
cazalla |
medibank floated today |
01:57 |
cazalla |
another telstra scam by the looks of it, price is already under IPO on day one |
01:59 |
cazalla |
!up Vexual |
01:59 |
Vexual |
anyway zt doesn't mean zou tung anymore, this guy could buy his debt like me buying a cornetto |
02:00 |
cazalla |
i wonder if zt will just buy back the domain from new owner |
02:02 |
Vexual |
he might just ask nicely |
02:03 |
cazalla |
nah, new owner will prob want a pay day |
02:05 |
Vexual |
he might just get it |
02:05 |
Vexual |
i don't think zt needs it tho |
02:07 |
Vexual |
leaving 36k on the table might be a thing |
02:07 |
cazalla |
well, he bought it for digital BTC, so technically the company owns it, or did, not him |
02:08 |
cazalla |
so now he has to go to shareholders and tell them, at least i assume so |
02:08 |
Vexual |
yeah, ive read the annual |
02:09 |
Vexual |
it's obviously an oversight |
02:10 |
cazalla |
on his part yes but common way to get domains in .au |
02:10 |
cazalla |
auDA won't force new owner to return simply because of a mistake |
02:10 |
Vexual |
dog businnes |
02:11 |
Vexual |
but if you're not using it... eh |
02:11 |
cazalla |
few times people have taken it outside of auDA and to court though, ZT could do that or simply buy it back which i bet is likely to happen |
02:12 |
Vexual |
well h ecould verily claim he is bitcoin.com.au |
02:12 |
cazalla |
Vexual, perhaps new owner just uses it for email, there is no criteria stating he has to have a webpage |
02:12 |
Vexual |
im sure it will all sort out in the wash |
02:12 |
cazalla |
can claim, must prove |
02:14 |
Vexual |
anyway, that cunt can just hop n his aero and take a few more bitmain to iceland |
02:15 |
Vexual |
wot dhl? |
02:18 |
Vexual |
id guess he cares more about mining his own tx's than a domain name |
02:22 |
Vexual |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xS4BdvdRZk |
02:24 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00041926 = 4.9473 BTC [-] |
02:26 |
Vexual |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpmxrdN7Lg4 |
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02:52 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58650 @ 0.00041926 = 24.5896 BTC [-] |
03:02 |
cazalla |
!up Vexual |
03:09 |
Vexual |
i tell you wot, id consult for zt |
03:09 |
Vexual |
if he wasnt so scary |
03:12 |
Vexual |
if hes worth a mil pa id be 200k |
03:12 |
Vexual |
but with a loss like that, id recommend less |
03:15 |
Vexual |
here we go, it;s 20yearmoney to tell u sabout growth |
03:18 |
Vexual |
Jou Ma Se poes in a fish paste jar. |
03:19 |
Vexual |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBYd1MuFMgk |
03:20 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71400 @ 0.00042106 = 30.0637 BTC [+] {2} |
03:21 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36142 @ 0.00042523 = 15.3687 BTC [+] |
03:24 |
Vexual |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHD5nd3QLTg |
03:28 |
Vexual |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkhX5W7JoWI |
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04:15 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17300 @ 0.00041955 = 7.2582 BTC [-] |
04:25 |
mircea_popescu |
<decimation> yeah Jim has a point << it was actually one Bill Frezza. jad just reprinted it. |
04:25 |
mircea_popescu |
<undata> mircea_popescu: I have no philosophical objection to burning gas <<< sure, but if you're on a barge you can't conceivably drill for oil. so ethanol's left. |
04:26 |
mircea_popescu |
(moreover my point was that growing shit is taking care of the small problem, most of your energetic needs aren't "what to eat") |
04:26 |
mircea_popescu |
<ben_vulpes> and im pretty sure isis is the first place with a serenissima embassy, for that matter. << this exists in point of fact? <<< not quite, no. |
04:29 |
mircea_popescu |
!up orkaa |
04:33 |
cazalla |
bitcoin price after last years black friday sale? |
04:33 |
cazalla |
drop i mean |
04:34 |
cazalla |
ah never mind, went to moon soon after |
04:35 |
mircea_popescu |
by now "price" as reported by "exchanges" is pretty much a random value. |
04:36 |
mircea_popescu |
all the scams with "margin" and 90% fake trade volume get to report a "price". |
04:37 |
cazalla |
mircea_popescu, yes but i would prefer that random value be on the lower side either tmw or after black friday |
04:37 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
04:38 |
cazalla |
not usually something i worry about but i am sure there will be a long line of people handing over coins for useless shit on black friday |
04:39 |
mircea_popescu |
i have my doubts. |
04:40 |
cazalla |
namecheap 99c .com sounds ok though |
04:42 |
mircea_popescu |
i guess |
04:49 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00042533 = 1.914 BTC [+] {2} |
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05:08 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63047 @ 0.00041985 = 26.4703 BTC [-] {3} |
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05:37 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16550 @ 0.00041838 = 6.9242 BTC [-] |
05:40 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1000 @ 0.00122931 = 1.2293 BTC [+] {2} |
05:44 |
cazalla |
looks like bitcoin conferences are moving onto blockchain conferences now lol http://latitude.global/ sponsored by ethereum |
05:44 |
assbot |
Latitude 19.3N | INTERNATIONAL BLOCK CHAIN | January 2O,21,22 2015 ... ( http://bit.ly/1pih7N9 ) |
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06:06 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 74417 @ 0.00042486 = 31.6168 BTC [+] {2} |
| |
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07:04 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1156 @ 0.00122001 = 1.4103 BTC [-] |
07:04 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56000 @ 0.00042006 = 23.5234 BTC [-] |
07:15 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.09228782 = 1.0152 BTC [-] {3} |
07:16 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 89 @ 0.09008809 = 8.0178 BTC [-] {5} |
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07:32 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 55 @ 0.09001891 = 4.951 BTC [-] {2} |
07:33 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 75447 @ 0.00042336 = 31.9412 BTC [+] {3} |
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07:58 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61398 @ 0.00042449 = 26.0628 BTC [+] {2} |
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08:31 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43200 @ 0.00042397 = 18.3155 BTC [-] |
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~ 43 minutes ~ |
09:15 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40041 @ 0.00041502 = 16.6178 BTC [-] |
09:26 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 18 @ 0.1 = 1.8 BTC [+] |
09:33 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6137 @ 0.00041502 = 2.547 BTC [-] |
09:34 |
mats_cd03 |
aw, i fell asleep before all the activity |
09:34 |
mats_cd03 |
fergudishu, even. |
09:41 |
jurov |
;;ticker |
09:41 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 381.05, Best ask: 382.49, Bid-ask spread: 1.44000, Last trade: 382.49, 24 hour volume: 20437.64069085, 24 hour low: 372.91, 24 hour high: 395.11, 24 hour vwap: 0 |
09:52 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62186 @ 0.00041689 = 25.9247 BTC [+] {2} |
09:55 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00041953 = 1.4684 BTC [+] |
| |
~ 18 minutes ~ |
10:13 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23398 @ 0.00041953 = 9.8162 BTC [+] |
10:16 |
ben_vulpes |
office space is painfully tight in pdx |
10:17 |
ben_vulpes |
"tech bubble" top when? |
10:19 |
mats_cd03 |
my bets are on the next five years |
10:21 |
* |
ben_vulpes puts fuel in the product arm of the biz in a vain attempt to survive the music stopping |
10:22 |
mats_cd03 |
whaddya need office space for? |
10:22 |
ben_vulpes |
'Children’s need to be “stimulated, pushed and encouraged to take risks is as great as their need for stability and security,”' << merry go-rounds aren't a thing in the states any more, because children might get scraped up. |
10:22 |
ben_vulpes |
mats_cd03: i run a consulting shop. far easier to get contributors to contribute/consult when there's an actual place to go. |
10:23 |
ben_vulpes |
plus, i like to get out of the house. |
10:23 |
ben_vulpes |
plus, i'd like host client meetings somewhere that isn't a noisy-as-fuck coffee shop. |
10:23 |
ben_vulpes |
like *to |
10:24 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31095 @ 0.00041353 = 12.8587 BTC [-] {2} |
10:24 |
danielpbarron |
http://youtu.be/Rw4BCniDqD0 |
10:24 |
assbot |
Thrift Shop PARODY "I'm Obama" ~ Rucka Rucka Ali - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1HEriBO ) |
10:24 |
mats_cd03 |
struggle. |
10:25 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18879 @ 0.00041 = 7.7404 BTC [-] |
10:33 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21586 @ 0.00042164 = 9.1015 BTC [+] {2} |
10:45 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59500 @ 0.00040986 = 24.3867 BTC [-] {2} |
10:46 |
BingoBoingo |
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/in-ferguson-police-cars-businesses-on-fire-much-worse-than/article_47fc89b3-b0d2-5c41-a1fa-f4636673aac0.html |
10:46 |
assbot |
IN FERGUSON: Businesses burn, police cars torched as violence 'much worse' than August : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1HEt1XU ) |
11:00 |
gernika |
Some looting in Oakland: http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Late-night-looters-trash-Oakland-stores-5915959.php |
11:00 |
assbot |
Late-night looters trash Oakland stores - SFGate ... ( http://bit.ly/1HEu3mE ) |
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~ 15 minutes ~ |
11:15 |
BingoBoingo |
Nice work cazalla www.thedomains.com/2014/11/25/bitcoin-com-au-sells-for-31200-as-owner-loses-the-domain-due-to-bad-registrant-info/ |
11:19 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1003 @ 0.00122798 = 1.2317 BTC [+] {2} |
11:20 |
BingoBoingo |
Interesting pictures in this one http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/11/25/ferguson_protests_fires_follow_grand_jury_decision_not_to_indict_darren.html |
11:20 |
assbot |
Ferguson protests, fires follow grand jury decision not to indict Darren Wilson. ... ( http://bit.ly/1HEvGRk ) |
11:21 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1411 @ 0.00122948 = 1.7348 BTC [+] {2} |
11:22 |
mats_cd03 |
for whatever reason slate.com accepts left, right arrow keys as input changes the page... |
11:23 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 846 @ 0.00123 = 1.0406 BTC [+] {5} |
11:23 |
mats_cd03 |
as inputs, and* |
11:30 |
BingoBoingo |
!up Shakespeare |
11:31 |
BingoBoingo |
Fucking white folks http://www.digitaljournal.com/news/world/op-ed-protester-getting-ready-for-ferguson-shoots-herself-in-the-head/article/417008 |
11:31 |
assbot |
Op-Ed: Protester getting 'ready for Ferguson' shoots herself in the head ... ( http://bit.ly/1HEwsxJ ) |
11:35 |
BingoBoingo |
http://orbilu.uni.lu/handle/10993/18679 |
11:35 |
assbot |
ORBilu: Biryukov Alex - Deanonymisation of clients in Bitcoin P2P network ... ( http://bit.ly/1HEwJAI ) |
11:47 |
mats_cd03 |
the nature of the negligent discharge seems dubious |
11:47 |
mats_cd03 |
more likely the driver got into an accident while attempting to kill a nuisance. |
11:49 |
BingoBoingo |
Who knows. It isn't like more than half of clear homicides get solved in the StL metro. |
11:58 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 431 @ 0.00327579 = 1.4119 BTC [+] {3} |
11:58 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 75050 @ 0.00040852 = 30.6594 BTC [-] {3} |
12:06 |
pete_dushenski |
manual scoopbot incoming: |
12:06 |
pete_dushenski |
http://www.contravex.com/2014/11/24/bitcoin-year-in-review-2014-the-price-went-down-so-we-prepared-for-war/ |
12:06 |
assbot |
Bitcoin Year-In-Review: The Price Went Down, So We Prepared For War | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1vJCE4q ) |
12:06 |
pete_dushenski |
http://www.contravex.com/2014/11/25/an-ode-to-my-tygers/ |
12:06 |
assbot |
An Ode To My Tygers | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1vJCCtk ) |
12:18 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63500 @ 0.00040688 = 25.8369 BTC [-] {2} |
12:20 |
jurov |
https://twitter.com/magicaltux/status/537197032130084864 |
12:20 |
assbot |
Recent Sony Pictures hack seems to point toward China or Korea due to included file encoding. More details: http://t.co/ChxUj8PJfA |
12:21 |
jurov |
such expert |
12:21 |
pete_dushenski |
brofessional |
12:26 |
pete_dushenski |
https://twitter.com/nntaleb/status/537242267371978752 |
12:26 |
assbot |
Social, economic, & intellectual aristocracies have an almost error free mechanism by which members can identify each other very rapidly. |
12:26 |
pete_dushenski |
^eg. la serenissima |
12:29 |
jurov |
lol how do you identify e.g. Vexual? |
12:30 |
* |
jurov *sniff* *sniff* |
12:30 |
pete_dushenski |
how don't you? |
12:31 |
jurov |
lol pete doesn't like to get sniffed |
12:31 |
BingoBoingo |
http://qntra.net/2014/11/sony-pictures-suffers-targeted-cyber-attack/ |
12:31 |
assbot |
Sony Pictures Suffers Targeted Cyber Attack | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1vbWdPx ) |
12:36 |
BingoBoingo |
* jurov *sniff* *sniff* << On the internet everyone is Dog |
12:39 |
BingoBoingo |
!Up Fergudishu |
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13:07 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52700 @ 0.0004052 = 21.354 BTC [-] {2} |
13:17 |
BingoBoingo |
!up ParadoxBTC |
13:17 |
ParadoxBTC |
Why thank you :) |
13:22 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46883 @ 0.00040333 = 18.9093 BTC [-] {2} |
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13:43 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58200 @ 0.00041182 = 23.9679 BTC [+] {2} |
13:45 |
fluffypony |
Jurassic World trailer is out |
13:45 |
fluffypony |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFinNxS5KN4 |
13:45 |
assbot |
Jurassic World - Official Trailer (HD) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1vjTvsr ) |
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14:00 |
BingoBoingo |
TempleOS in the news http://motherboard.vice.com/read/gods-lonely-programmer |
14:00 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1vjUrNt ) |
14:02 |
thestringpuller |
Haven't seen fluffypony in a while |
14:03 |
fluffypony |
I'm like a ghost |
14:03 |
thestringpuller |
i thought that would imply you are dead but still alive (fake dead, but people believe it) |
14:04 |
fluffypony |
lol |
14:05 |
thestringpuller |
;;ticker |
14:05 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 378.08, Best ask: 379.42, Bid-ask spread: 1.34000, Last trade: 378.07, 24 hour volume: 19462.53412919, 24 hour low: 372.91, 24 hour high: 395.11, 24 hour vwap: 0 |
14:05 |
thestringpuller |
!l m s.mpoe |
14:05 |
assbot |
Last trade for S.MPOE on MPEX was at 0.00041182 BTC [+] |
14:05 |
thestringpuller |
ouch |
14:08 |
asciilifeform |
for those unfamiliar: |
14:08 |
asciilifeform |
!s terry davis |
14:08 |
assbot |
6 results for 'terry davis' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=terry+davis |
14:19 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 50 @ 0.09 = 4.5 BTC [-] {3} |
14:19 |
thestringpuller |
asciilifeform: i never new logic gates were so fun. |
14:23 |
asciilifeform |
!up diametric |
14:24 |
diametric |
http://rachelbythebay.com/w/2014/11/24/touch/ |
14:24 |
assbot |
Kill init by touching a bunch of files ... ( http://bit.ly/1vjWL7d ) |
14:24 |
diametric |
asciilifeform enables my laziness |
14:29 |
asciilifeform |
'Of course, this already happened: someone wrote a patch... in 2011... That said, the patch was rejected, and that's that. The bug lives on.' |
14:33 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69700 @ 0.00041399 = 28.8551 BTC [+] {2} |
14:33 |
adlai |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-10-2014#867321 << why? |
14:33 |
assbot |
Logged on 10-10-2014 04:18:11; asciilifeform: 1 of the 3 other monkeys, perhaps, knows russian (which imho is an absolute hard requirement for this particular stunt) |
14:34 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28350 @ 0.00041594 = 11.7919 BTC [+] {2} |
14:42 |
asciilifeform |
adlai: because that is the language in which fundamental research in computing continued, while in the west - died in 1950s. |
14:44 |
adlai |
madness, blasphemy. all research must be conducted and documented in english! |
14:47 |
mircea_popescu |
o.O |
14:47 |
mircea_popescu |
outside of biochemistry and perhaps some aeronautics, i struggle to think of a field where research is done in english |
14:49 |
cazalla |
fluffypony: Jurassic World trailer is out <<< i could not be more disappointed |
14:49 |
fluffypony |
cazalla: it just looks like a rehash of the first movie but with better CGI |
14:50 |
mircea_popescu |
We present an efficient method to deanonymize Bitcoin users, which allows to link user pseudonyms to the IP addresses where the transactions are generated. Our techniques work for the most common and the most challenging scenario when users are behind NATs or firewalls of their ISPs. They allow to link transactions of a user behind a NAT and to distinguish connections and transactions of different users behind the same |
14:50 |
mircea_popescu |
NAT. We also show that a natural countermeasure of using Tor or other anonymity services can be cut-off by abusing anti-DoS countermeasures of the bitcoin network. Our attacks require only a few machines and have been experimentally verified. We propose several countermeasures to mitigate these new attacks. |
14:51 |
mircea_popescu |
anyone bother actually read the pdf accompanying these tall claims ? |
14:51 |
cazalla |
fluffypony, the new male lead is no ian malcolm either |
14:51 |
adlai |
( http://arxiv.org/pdf/1405.7418.pdf ) |
14:51 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1vjZ4XQ ) |
14:51 |
fluffypony |
yerp |
14:53 |
cazalla |
BingoBoingo, hopefully it gets more traction in aus IT press, they love stuff stories like this |
14:53 |
mircea_popescu |
"a method for revealing IP addresses of Bitcoin wallet owners with success rate between 11\% and 60\%." ugh. my interest died. |
14:55 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: My take on it is if you connect to enough nodes, you can probably tell which one prodcasted a transaction first, sometimes. |
14:55 |
mircea_popescu |
so ? |
14:56 |
BingoBoingo |
Amazing the rather abvious shit people pass off as "research" |
14:56 |
assbot |
AMAZING COMPANY! |
14:56 |
mircea_popescu |
let me guess, 11 to 60% of times, where 40% is arbitrarily defined as equal to "those cases where users use private connect lists" |
14:56 |
mircea_popescu |
derpity derp. |
14:58 |
mircea_popescu |
in the same line, here's this extraspecial pair of glasses which removes clothes off women |
14:58 |
mircea_popescu |
success rate ? about 11 to 60% of cases where woman splays herself naked on display. |
14:58 |
mircea_popescu |
le win. |
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15:20 |
cazalla |
oh look at that, cointelegraph linking to qntra now as well |
15:20 |
cazalla |
http://cointelegraph.com/news/112988/if-you-bought-from-silk-road-coinalytics-may-have-you-mapped |
15:20 |
assbot |
If You Bought From Silk Road, Coinalytics May Have You Mapped ... ( http://bit.ly/1uCHfyb ) |
15:25 |
kakobrekla |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-11-2014#922794 < no, he just humble. |
15:25 |
assbot |
Logged on 15-11-2014 00:56:46; Adlai: assbot is immune to suicidal depression, because it doesn't even know it exists |
15:27 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24231 @ 0.00039922 = 9.6735 BTC [-] {3} |
15:37 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 144 @ 0.01115126 = 1.6058 BTC [-] |
15:46 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10656 @ 0.00039563 = 4.2158 BTC [-] |
15:48 |
kakobrekla |
bash flushed |
15:59 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11419 @ 0.00039849 = 4.5504 BTC [+] |
16:05 |
asciilifeform |
'de-anonymization' paper << mega-snore. |
16:06 |
asciilifeform |
in other news: usg's oceanic fiber tap catalogue apparently leaked. |
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16:25 |
BingoBoingo |
O.o https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=855130.0 |
16:25 |
assbot |
2014 Proof of Honor (POH) Awards - Official Voting begins December 1st (12/1)! ... ( http://bit.ly/15qmT6H ) |
16:32 |
asciilifeform |
http://rachelbythebay.com/w/2013/02/22/mac |
16:32 |
assbot |
I mortgaged my future with a Mac ... ( http://bit.ly/1yTADjh ) |
16:33 |
mats_cd03 |
16:06:20 <+asciilifeform> in other news: usg's oceanic fiber tap catalogue apparently leaked. << link? |
16:34 |
asciilifeform |
mats_cd03: buncha pdf turds on 'cryptome' |
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16:57 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46136 @ 0.00041169 = 18.9937 BTC [+] {3} |
16:57 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform may have been on to something http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2014/11/25/school-board-member-we-have-prepared-our-students-to-protest-in-ferguson/ |
16:57 |
assbot |
School Board Member: ‘We Have Prepared Our Students’ to Protest in Ferguson « CBS St. Louis ... ( http://bit.ly/1Cc93Uc ) |
17:11 |
BingoBoingo |
!up babbys_first_bit |
17:11 |
BingoBoingo |
Hello babbys_first_bit |
17:11 |
babbys_first_bit |
hi |
17:11 |
BingoBoingo |
What brings you around these parts |
17:11 |
babbys_first_bit |
trilema and the convalex |
17:12 |
babbys_first_bit |
contravex |
17:12 |
BingoBoingo |
Cool |
17:13 |
babbys_first_bit |
reddit is cancer and bitcointalk is semi-cancerous |
17:14 |
BingoBoingo |
More Tor Drama: https://twitter.com/Anonyzation/status/537185269011587072 http://dpaste.com/2BRBXP7 |
17:14 |
assbot |
Why is /puellavulnerata's account all locked up? /hashtag/tor?src=hashcc /yashalevine /paulcarr |
17:14 |
assbot |
dpaste: 2BRBXP7 ... ( http://bit.ly/1y9KFgO ) |
17:14 |
BingoBoingo |
Indeed, chemo needed |
17:14 |
BingoBoingo |
Atm though I think bitcointalk's cancer is probably more terminal |
17:15 |
The20YearIRCloud |
Well, today we closed on another loan, putting the company back to a state with plenty o extra cash laying around. |
17:18 |
babbys_first_bit |
anyway |
17:18 |
babbys_first_bit |
these sub 400 coins, they're cheap right |
17:18 |
BingoBoingo |
Probably |
17:19 |
BingoBoingo |
Just make sure you can actually move them to an address you have sole control over |
17:19 |
babbys_first_bit |
I've migrated from bitcoin core to Armory |
17:19 |
babbys_first_bit |
i have a shitty laptop that I've devoted to my cold storage, disabled wifi etc |
17:21 |
babbys_first_bit |
Those paper wallet backups I made, if someone were to get a hold of them , and somehow know what they meant, could they steal my coins, or would they need my password? |
17:22 |
BingoBoingo |
That's a very good queston. Haven't used Armory in years |
17:23 |
BingoBoingo |
I instead [censored] my [censored][censored] with [censored][censored][censored] under a [censored] mountain |
17:23 |
mike_c |
babbys_first_bit: the paper wallet gives access to coins sans password. |
17:25 |
babbys_first_bit |
I find it kind of odd how I'd need to use a USB stick combined with accessing my offline laptop with the password before I can send coins, yet if someone were to get my paper wallet and knew what those four letter words meant, they suddenly have the keys to the kingdom |
17:25 |
mike_c |
it's kinda the point |
17:25 |
mike_c |
if that bothers you, encrypt the paper wallet and then print it out. |
17:27 |
mike_c |
or ask BingoBoingo to stick it in his mountain. |
17:27 |
assbot |
Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3MPWE2S.txt ) |
17:27 |
BingoBoingo |
!b 4 |
17:28 |
babbys_first_bit |
I suppose unless I go around telling people IRL i've got a paper backup with my bitcoin wealth tied to it, nobody who happened to find it would even know what it meant. It's not like i wrote "ARMORY BACKUP FOR EXTREME BITCOIN WEALTH" on the backup |
17:30 |
BingoBoingo |
How do you know for sure you already didn't? |
17:31 |
babbys_first_bit |
i do tend to get falling down drunk on occasion |
17:31 |
babbys_first_bit |
i've hidden in a pretty gud place |
17:32 |
babbys_first_bit |
hidden it |
17:32 |
babbys_first_bit |
i dont hide myself |
17:38 |
BingoBoingo |
But with yourself and a soldering iron someone might extract the paper's location |
17:39 |
babbys_first_bit |
torture me? |
17:39 |
BingoBoingo |
Sure, someone could. |
17:39 |
BingoBoingo |
They insert soldering iron into a convenient opening and wait for it to heat up |
17:40 |
babbys_first_bit |
i think they'd go after the winkvoss twins bfore me |
17:40 |
mats_cd03 |
uh, ok |
17:41 |
babbys_first_bit |
what's your excuse for not owning 1% of all bitcoins |
17:41 |
BingoBoingo |
But there's two of them and they are in shape from all of that rowing at indistinguishable northeastern school. You on the other hand have baby in your IRC nick and infants suck at avoiding abduction. |
17:41 |
mats_cd03 |
a dubious claim |
17:43 |
BingoBoingo |
!up babbys_first_bit |
17:43 |
babbys_first_bit |
what happens to the channel if you automatically get to speak upon arrival |
17:44 |
BingoBoingo |
babbys_first_bit: Voice instructions http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/04/11_bitcoin-assets-new-wot-and-voice-model.html |
17:44 |
assbot |
#bitcoin-assets new WoT and voice model ... ( http://bit.ly/1xYGx5y ) |
17:45 |
babbys_first_bit |
hmm ok |
17:46 |
babbys_first_bit |
so that fat fucker from mt. gox, do u think he stole everyones coins or were they just "lost" |
17:47 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30400 @ 0.00040665 = 12.3622 BTC [-] |
17:51 |
BingoBoingo |
He prolly ate them. Maybe Jed from Ripple/Stellar/WTFBBQ stole them after he sold Gox to Karpeles. hard to know. |
17:52 |
babbys_first_bit |
is blockchain.info the only online wallet where the website owners can't just run off with my coins |
17:53 |
dignork |
babbys_first_bit: they can. |
17:53 |
BingoBoingo |
There's ways they can run off with coins too |
17:53 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21450 @ 0.00041847 = 8.9762 BTC [+] {2} |
17:54 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3802 @ 0.00041705 = 1.5856 BTC [-] |
17:55 |
dignork |
babbys_first_bit: and if you insist on comparing bad ideas, greenaddress is somewhat better. |
18:04 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35706 @ 0.00040111 = 14.322 BTC [-] {2} |
18:08 |
babbys_first_bit |
how many bitcoins will i need today to be a millionaire in 10 yrs |
18:10 |
kakobrekla |
ill tell you for a buttcoin. |
18:11 |
babbys_first_bit |
Why haven't the devs or the general userbase demanded we switch from BTC to micro BTC or whatever |
18:12 |
kakobrekla |
!down babbys_first_bit |
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18:38 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20962 @ 0.00039415 = 8.2622 BTC [-] {2} |
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18:56 |
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Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "BTC to reach $5000 or higher in Q2 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/1071/ Odds: 10(Y):90(N) by coin, 10(Y):90(N) by weight. Total bet: 1.821 BTC. Current weight: 92,629. |
18:56 |
asciilifeform |
http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2014/11/25/russian-official-ferguson-highlights-serious-challenges-to-the-american-society-and-its-stability << linked from BingoBoingo's link |
18:56 |
assbot |
Russian Official: Ferguson Highlights ‘Serious Challenges to American Society and its Stability’ « CBS St. Louis ... ( http://bit.ly/1vLpenU ) |
18:56 |
asciilifeform |
^ these folks need to invoice moscow for their orlov cheques. |
18:58 |
Apocalyptic |
asciilifeform, has it been established Mr. O is paid by Moscow btw ? |
18:58 |
asciilifeform |
Apocalyptic: lol, no |
18:58 |
asciilifeform |
Apocalyptic: but mircea_popescu once confessed that he suspected. |
18:59 |
Apocalyptic |
I was kind of wondering about it recently, it could make sense |
19:03 |
asciilifeform |
re: discussion of paper wallets: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-08-2014#817461 |
19:03 |
assbot |
Logged on 31-08-2014 18:52:01; asciilifeform: so, formula is: 'don't own. if you own, don't admit it. if you admit it, don't write about it. if you own and admit and write, don't sign your name. if you own, admit, write, and sign name, don't be surprised.' (apologies to rev. t. reese.) |
19:04 |
kakobrekla |
based also iirc. |
19:08 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: tor drama << i don't get it. what, exactly, was the linked thing about ? |
19:08 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: One of the tor devs drawing their USG funded paychecks was an operator of one of the "Anonymous" movement twitter accounts |
19:09 |
asciilifeform |
lol |
19:09 |
Apocalyptic |
heh |
19:09 |
asciilifeform |
this surprised - whom ? |
19:09 |
BingoBoingo |
This surprised, I guess the small number of anons who might not be from USG's vegetable garden |
19:09 |
asciilifeform |
tor project funding wasn't secret, either |
19:11 |
asciilifeform |
it was (originally - and semi-publicly) spun as a 'our spies need to do their thing under the cloak of a river of shit traffic so here's this free service' gizmo |
19:11 |
BingoBoingo |
Sure, but the Tor people hate bringing that up. |
19:11 |
asciilifeform |
then rebranded as a u.s. dept. of state 'dissidents need to plan their glorious democratic multi-coloured revolutions without interference from cruel orcish gestapos' gizmo. |
19:12 |
* |
BingoBoingo suspects .ru darknet markets survive because USG figures russian drugs are russia's problem. |
19:12 |
asciilifeform |
usg ships afghani opium directly into ru. |
19:13 |
asciilifeform |
fought a war partly to make this easier. |
19:13 |
BingoBoingo |
Sure, they ship Afghani opium pretty much everywhere for refinement into heroin. |
19:14 |
BingoBoingo |
CIA only hated Pablo Escobar because he was competition |
19:15 |
asciilifeform |
at no point may the orcs have a leader who is not an active muppet. |
19:15 |
* |
BingoBoingo under the impression USG uses drug money to fund all of its porcelain as opposed to golden toilets |
19:15 |
asciilifeform |
this is a top reptilian priority. |
19:20 |
BingoBoingo |
The big question this week is will the Bird that weighs 11 kilos clean and dressed thaw adequately by Thursday Morning. |
19:29 |
gernika |
May I ask where the reptilian reference comes from? (lizard hitler, et. al) I see some references to Hitler being a Lizard Alien Being on google, but nothing beyond a literal interpretation of that. |
19:30 |
asciilifeform |
!s lizard hitler |
19:30 |
assbot |
23 results for 'lizard hitler' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=lizard+hitler |
19:30 |
asciilifeform |
comes from an infamous crackpot whose name i've forgotten, who wrote a lengthy treatise on how planet has been secretly ruled by lizard-like aliens since time immemorial |
19:31 |
gernika |
Wonder if that's what inspired V. |
19:32 |
asciilifeform |
v? |
19:32 |
BingoBoingo |
I suspect actual alien influencers would be avian |
19:32 |
gernika |
Seemed to have a lot of references to the Nazis. 80s made for TV series in which lizards disguised as humanoids invade the planet. |
19:33 |
gernika |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_%281983_miniseries%29 |
19:33 |
assbot |
V (1983 miniseries) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1zs7H1T ) |
19:33 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo, other vintage hardware aficionados: http://www.ebay.com/itm/VERY-RARE-FERRITE-CORE-PLANE-MEMORY-4Pcs-BOARD-USSR-MILITARY-AVIATION-AIR-FORCE-/251698367737?pt=US_Vintage_Computers_Mainframes&hash=item3a9a644cf9 |
19:33 |
assbot |
Very RARE Ferrite Core Plane Memory 4pcs Board USSR Military Aviation Air Force | eBay ... ( http://bit.ly/1zs7Hia ) |
19:33 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Yes,a tv show. Reptilians in government was actual US pop culture artifact |
19:33 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: note the ics -and- ferrite combo. |
19:34 |
BingoBoingo |
Beautiful pictures. |
19:35 |
asciilifeform |
in usa, ferrite core memory was also manufactured well into the ic age |
19:35 |
asciilifeform |
why? because persistent. |
19:35 |
gernika |
There was even gassing of dissidents. |
19:35 |
asciilifeform |
and far more durable than spinning disk. |
19:36 |
* |
BingoBoingo would kind of like the rest of the plane too... |
19:36 |
asciilifeform |
(eeprom with blockwise electrical erasure did not exist en masse until mid-80s) |
19:38 |
asciilifeform |
if BingoBoingo like ancient russian airplanes, he should get in touch with city hall in timisoara |
19:38 |
asciilifeform |
there is a titanic pile of them at the little airport there. |
19:38 |
asciilifeform |
literally, piles |
19:39 |
asciilifeform |
seems possible that they might agree to part with them for price of scrap, if you arrange transportation. |
19:39 |
BingoBoingo |
I might have to make a trip there when I can convert BTC to pallets of local scrip |
19:39 |
asciilifeform |
incidentally, you can see some of these planes from 'google maps' |
19:39 |
asciilifeform |
they sit in open air, rusting. |
19:40 |
BingoBoingo |
Also might be fun to rent a hangar and extract them of their own power. |
19:40 |
asciilifeform |
https://www.google.com/maps/place/RoAF+93rd+Air+Base/@45.8063192,21.3396019,1645m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x4745615425540145:0x692938564f322ef8 |
19:40 |
assbot |
Google Maps ... ( http://bit.ly/1zs93tw ) |
19:40 |
BingoBoingo |
Dunno how many rusting planes it will take to convert to flying plane though |
19:41 |
asciilifeform |
ru-made interceptors though. |
19:41 |
asciilifeform |
won't be crossing any oceans. |
19:42 |
danielpbarron |
07:29 <+gernika> May I ask where the reptilian reference comes from? << probably from david icke |
19:42 |
asciilifeform |
aha yes that was him. |
19:42 |
BingoBoingo |
Ah, so too heavy/long to land on aircraft carrier |
19:43 |
asciilifeform |
really, the quintessential specialist's toy. |
19:44 |
BingoBoingo |
So, you suspect they wouldn't be useful for liberating Rhodesia? |
19:44 |
gernika |
danielpbarron: thanks |
19:44 |
asciilifeform |
with engine MTBF measured in tens of hours - doubtful. |
19:45 |
BingoBoingo |
Ah, shame |
19:46 |
asciilifeform |
have to understand, jet fighter is not really a complete machine. it is a tentacle of the larger industrial slave empire which produced and employed it. |
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19:46 |
asciilifeform |
much like your finger cannot function for long or very usefully unless attached to the rest of you |
19:47 |
asciilifeform |
as i understand, this is why countries that inherited, bought, stole, etc. some xxx quantity of soviet aircraft yy years ago, tend to fly some small handful z of them at a time |
19:47 |
asciilifeform |
the rest - are kept in parts graveyards. |
19:48 |
asciilifeform |
a greybeard and squad of monkeys parts them out, maintaining the handful in some semblance of working order. |
19:48 |
* |
asciilifeform not involved in this profession in any capacity, knows from thirdhand sources. |
19:49 |
BingoBoingo |
I thought generally that's how jet fighters work everywhere. Hundreds of planes maybe tens available at any given time if lucky |
19:49 |
asciilifeform |
only when collapse. |
19:50 |
asciilifeform |
think of a taxi or bus park. there's usually a handful of disabled vehicles, but they either await the scrapyard or a shipment of parts, given as the latter can be had |
19:50 |
asciilifeform |
but what if they cannot be had. |
19:51 |
asciilifeform |
then the situation is reversed - handful of working items, large and sometimes well-guarded lot of cannibalism |
19:51 |
BingoBoingo |
I thought even US aircraft now are just parts waiting to be consumed by their brothers and sisters |
19:51 |
asciilifeform |
if this is not yet, then only a matter of time. |
19:52 |
BingoBoingo |
Maybe not for all aircraft, but it seems the case for the ones the empire uses with regularity in anger |
19:53 |
asciilifeform |
interceptors and fighting jets in general are a special case of 'cold war' hardware, in that they were never expected to last. |
19:53 |
asciilifeform |
repairable - yes (at least in ru schools of design). durable - no. |
19:54 |
asciilifeform |
phun phact. you can download the repair manuals for most of the 'mig' machines. |
19:54 |
asciilifeform |
why is another question. but - there they are. |
19:55 |
dub |
I think my body is burning out |
19:56 |
dub |
brain seems mostly ok with long term sleep deprivation, body taking it harder |
19:57 |
dub |
some kind of pre-diabetes thing goiing on with suddenly running out of blood sugar |
19:57 |
undata |
so uh... go to bed? |
19:58 |
dub |
and muscle cramps worse than anything I've had |
19:58 |
* |
BingoBoingo pretty sure body needs sleep more than brain |
19:58 |
BingoBoingo |
dub: Eat banana, take diphenhydramine, go the fuck to sleep |
19:59 |
asciilifeform |
diphenhydramine << iirc, snips off stage 4. no thx |
19:59 |
undata |
dub: for you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E--R1n3O_m4 |
19:59 |
assbot |
Go The Fuck To Sleep - Narrated by Samuel L. Jackson - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1zscMqY ) |
19:59 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Varies from person to person. |
20:00 |
dub |
soft tissue recovery slow as fuck too |
20:00 |
asciilifeform |
http://international.sueddeutsche.de/post/103543418200/snowden-leaks-how-vodafone-subsidiary-cable << more re: fiber taps |
20:00 |
assbot |
International - Snowden-Leaks: How Vodafone-Subsidiary Cable & Wireless Aided GCHQ’s Spying Efforts ... ( http://bit.ly/1zsd019 ) |
20:00 |
dub |
wake up screaming with cramp in calf, still sore month later |
20:01 |
undata |
dub: why are you still complaining about this? |
20:02 |
* |
dub was in a rather large room full of taps this morning |
20:02 |
undata |
want someone to actually come over there and tuck you in? go to sleep |
20:02 |
dub |
its ok undata, I will sleep next month |
20:02 |
dub |
from the 10th or so |
20:02 |
undata |
dub: farming pitty in the meanwhile? |
20:02 |
undata |
*pity |
20:03 |
dub |
yes, pity |
20:03 |
dub |
from #b-a |
20:03 |
asciilifeform |
dub is in... war zone? programmer's death march? or where? why no sleep |
20:03 |
BingoBoingo |
Honestly after last week's broken dick hard to farm pity for health reasons for a while |
20:03 |
* |
undata guesses #2 |
20:03 |
undata |
BingoBoingo: who broke their dick? |
20:03 |
* |
undata checks logs |
20:03 |
BingoBoingo |
undata: Xanthyos |
20:03 |
dub |
buddy of mine broke his dick, no joke |
20:03 |
BingoBoingo |
!s disfigured |
20:03 |
assbot |
1 results for 'disfigured' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=disfigured |
20:04 |
BingoBoingo |
!s fracture |
20:04 |
assbot |
28 results for 'fracture' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=fracture |
20:04 |
asciilifeform |
!s but with meat we fell behind |
20:04 |
assbot |
0 results for 'but with meat we fell behind' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=but+with+meat+we+fell+behind |
20:04 |
dub |
asciilifeform: overkommitment |
20:04 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-04-2014#641294 |
20:04 |
assbot |
Logged on 24-04-2014 23:07:06; asciilifeform: 'when it comes to milk, we're even with america, at last; as for meat, they're still the leader - our bull broke his cock, alas.' |
20:04 |
undata |
"xanthyos: they won't even see me because i called the dr a faggot" << winrar right here |
20:05 |
undata |
I'm also rating the likelihood that this is true at 0.001% |
20:06 |
undata |
"xanthyos: i act and speak with total sincerity at all times" << pfffff |
20:08 |
dub |
dick break is apparently not that uncommon but limited to a subset of men |
20:08 |
dub |
the big dick having set |
20:09 |
asciilifeform |
the power tool fucking set ? |
20:10 |
undata |
asciilifeform: or people that think positions seen in porn are enjoyable for anyone who isn't a camera |
20:10 |
dub |
missionary in my friends case |
20:11 |
asciilifeform |
reminds of ilkka kokkarinen's 'alien problems': |
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20:11 |
asciilifeform |
'Id like to see one expression coined by the poker writer Matt Matros become common parlance, since it applies far more widely than only to poker. An alien problem means some problem that might be fun, interesting and educational to analyze, and it would be really important to know the solution if you ever found yourself in that situation, but the point is that you shouldn't even be having that problem in the first pl |
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20:11 |
asciilifeform |
ace, because it can only have resulted from you having made choices that are obviously wrong and easily avoidable. At the poker table, the description of an alien problem might begin So I called a raise and re-raise preflop from the small blind with my jack-three offsuit... Say no more. Dont call a raise and re-raise from the small blind when you have nothing but a measly jack-three offsuit, and you wont have to th |
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20:11 |
asciilifeform |
ink about how to get out of problems like that. Outside the poker table, consider any problem that starts with the words So, I have been having a steamy secret affair with the wife of this violent mob boss, and now she...' |
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20:11 |
BingoBoingo |
It's in the log, he did a persian penis trick compulsively to quash his boners, and this time it went wrong |
20:13 |
undata |
pics or gtfo |
20:13 |
undata |
gpg signed |
20:13 |
danielpbarron |
he put the pics on twitter, but it's a private account |
20:15 |
undata |
bah! hearsay! |
20:15 |
dub |
the break happened in another buddy of mine, her telling it was standard drunken missionary. Loud snap, deformation, severe bruising, hospital visit, months of rehab |
20:16 |
undata |
dub: am I supposed to believe every joker that claims he broke his dick? standards, man. |
20:17 |
danielpbarron |
months?? |
20:17 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: re: historic hardware: ever own a 'ibm workpad z50' ? |
20:18 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: I've never had that experience. |
20:18 |
dub |
danielpbarron: never torn a uscle? |
20:18 |
dub |
muscle* |
20:18 |
danielpbarron |
i guess not |
20:18 |
danielpbarron |
never had months of rehab |
20:18 |
danielpbarron |
and i had my appendix rupture |
20:18 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: odd little bugger. the usual nice 'thinkpad' keyboard, but inside - a 'mips' cpu. normally ran embedded winblows (yes, for mips!) from 16m rom. but easily hackable to use netbsd or linux. |
20:18 |
dub |
lucky you |
20:19 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: ~1kg weight, iirc. no built-in networking. |
20:19 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: also notable for the option of running on 'aa' batteries. |
20:20 |
dub |
undata: because I care http://www.the-bent-penis-website.com/broken-penis.html |
20:20 |
assbot |
Do I Have a Broken Penis? ... ( http://bit.ly/1zsgErV ) |
20:20 |
dub |
fuck that I cant even read that |
20:22 |
undata |
dub: I know it's a thing |
20:24 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: http://www.mars.dti.ne.jp/~ayase/tp/wpz50.htm << rom on 3rd photo from bottom |
20:24 |
assbot |
404 Not Found ... ( http://bit.ly/1zshuF8 ) |
20:25 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: http://djbnetbsd.drivehq.com/PC/NetBSD/Z50/index.html << netbsd on that machine. |
20:31 |
BingoBoingo |
Interesting. Might have to play with one some day. Probably worth it to keep one on hand because of the AA batteries deal |
20:32 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: did you ever play with an hp 200lx? |
20:32 |
asciilifeform |
decimation: yes. sold it many years ago though. terrible keyboard. |
20:32 |
decimation |
I remember back when my best portable computer was an hp-48 |
20:33 |
decimation |
I think the 200lx had a similar 'chiclet' keyboard |
20:33 |
* |
BingoBoingo about to order yet another replacement fan for X120e, doesn't trust the latest offering the Chicoms on Ebay shipped |
20:35 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: apparently the lady whose website you linked has an apco project 25 decoding system http://scanner.rachelbythebay.com/ |
20:35 |
assbot |
Super Trunking Scanner ... ( http://bit.ly/1zsj0qE ) |
20:35 |
asciilifeform |
aha. |
20:35 |
decimation |
or at least, wrapped someone else's |
20:35 |
asciilifeform |
many good essays in there, too. |
20:35 |
decimation |
apparently they implemented the 'tdma' version too, which allows a single 12 khz channel to be timeshared with two radios |
20:36 |
decimation |
because the FCC demanded that all these incumbant users reduce their bandwidth |
20:37 |
decimation |
another amusing post by the friendly nydwracu: http://nithgrim.wordpress.com/2014/10/21/the-web-of-dependency/ |
20:37 |
assbot |
The web of dependency | nydwracu niþgrim, nihtbealwa mæst ... ( http://bit.ly/1zsjhdc ) |
20:37 |
decimation |
"“In practice, technologies will be used by control systems to maintain their power and stability.” People subject themselves to the control system for some perceived (and perhaps even real) benefit, and then get bitten by the tradeoffs." |
20:37 |
asciilifeform |
(not a misprint! there were once intelligent, educated woman programmers in usa. but when the profession became 'blue collar' - akin to, e.g., cement mixer operator - they mostly disappeared.) |
20:38 |
decimation |
yeah there were many women in cs in the 80's |
20:38 |
asciilifeform |
not even talking about academiwank |
20:39 |
asciilifeform |
i have, for instance, 'programmer's guide to CLOS [common lisp object system]' on my shelf, by one sonya keene. |
20:39 |
asciilifeform |
it was a good book. |
20:40 |
asciilifeform |
'As long as genetic modification is being done primarily by big agribusiness, plants will be altered to make them more compatible with central control of the food supply.' |
20:40 |
decimation |
yeah she has an interesting post related to this point: http://rachelbythebay.com/w/2011/06/04/fireandforget/ << "When pressed for details, this individual thought for a while and then said that he expects such people to be "fire and forget". In other words, you send them off and they get stuff done." |
20:40 |
assbot |
Fire and forget, or sexism in software engineering ... ( http://bit.ly/1zsjYDu ) |
20:40 |
asciilifeform |
we did this one here. |
20:41 |
asciilifeform |
(re: plants) |
20:41 |
decimation |
yeah, many conversations here have parallels with his thoughts |
20:41 |
asciilifeform |
!s monsanto |
20:41 |
assbot |
42 results for 'monsanto' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=monsanto |
20:41 |
asciilifeform |
^ these. |
20:42 |
decimation |
in the comments he makes a useful summary: "Control toward reduction of violence, protection of property rights, etc. is good, because the consequences are good on net; you can’t have a civilized society when everyone is killing each other and looting the corpses. Progressive control is bad, because civilization is incompatible with progressivism, so folk culture should be protected against mass culture." |
20:42 |
asciilifeform |
but must not forget - things which cannot defend themselves - die. |
20:43 |
decimation |
well, so when it's 'easier' to sit down and eat a tv movie while having your brain manipulated by the tv, it's good to know why |
20:43 |
asciilifeform |
eventually - somehow - the hunter makes his way to the island of delicious flightless birds. |
20:43 |
asciilifeform |
or 'flightless' people. |
20:44 |
undata |
"I'm not going to be suppressed anymore" YOU HEAR THAT DAD?! |
20:44 |
decimation |
"The seductive appeal of such things was nearly irresistible, for each of these items can make a quantum improvement in a sylvan lifestyle. Acquisition of several or all of these goods is a transformative experience that makes contact essentially irreversible." |
20:46 |
undata |
I have a hard time processing how telling your underling to maximize thinking for him/herself is suppression |
20:46 |
undata |
-or- "stop talking about how shitty the code is and get it fixed" |
20:47 |
undata |
I loathe working with people who bitch about how bad the codebase that is ostensibly their "work" is |
20:48 |
decimation |
undata: I think it illustrates the 'people are replaceable parts' attitude common in 'tech industry' |
20:52 |
undata |
decimation: sure, but in the case above the worker could actually be over-communicating |
20:52 |
undata |
which runs counter to the point of hiring her |
20:53 |
undata |
if the boss has to check off every single decision she's going to make, why doesn't he just move her out of the way? at that point she's just a really slow intermediary |
20:55 |
decimation |
in practice, I've found that kind of attitude to result in workarounds on top of workarounds, because of the lack of coordination |
20:56 |
asciilifeform |
the layers workarounds happen regardless - because how could there possibly be coordination with previous programmers |
20:56 |
asciilifeform |
(i.e. those who built the layers of crud tortoises on which the elephants stand) |
20:57 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: so would it be better for the elephant-builders to take note of the shit foundation upon which they work, or simply 'get things done' new jersey style? |
20:57 |
asciilifeform |
this is why the only extant computerized gadgets that aren't total crud were built from, or virtually from, the ground up. |
20:58 |
asciilifeform |
decimation: the ultimate, inescapable fact is that most of the products don't need to exist at all. |
20:59 |
asciilifeform |
that in that world, we might all be doing (horror!) honest work (e.g., http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/141698.jpg ) - such is life. |
20:59 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1zsnHAL ) |
20:59 |
undata |
decimation: dunno, I'm on the other end, and despise people who over-rely on authority to think |
20:59 |
undata |
likely the situation was somewhere in the middle |
21:00 |
undata |
some software projects are irredeemably fucked, and maybe the boss didn't want to hear that |
21:02 |
asciilifeform |
where's that mircea_popescu article re: how the average plebe has no business pretending to run a computer. |
21:07 |
ben_vulpes |
good god |
21:07 |
ben_vulpes |
so many riot geared cops out tonight |
21:07 |
ben_vulpes |
all the fuck over, too |
21:09 |
BingoBoingo |
ben_vulpes: In your yard??? |
21:09 |
ben_vulpes |
"little beirut" |
21:10 |
ben_vulpes |
BingoBoingo: this afternoon i saw a jeep 'truck' and chrysler 'minivan' block traffic on burnside for no reason. two vehicles, completely unmarked, pulled out into traffic, turned on head/taillight mars signallers, blocked the street for two full minutes, then turned said lights off and peeled off |
21:10 |
ben_vulpes |
i also saw a van with outriggers packed with riot-geared cops |
21:10 |
undata |
that makes me want to go drive around |
21:10 |
ben_vulpes |
you crazy, mang. |
21:11 |
ben_vulpes |
i'm staying way the fuck out of their way. |
21:11 |
undata |
surely nothing too nutso is going on downtown? |
21:11 |
undata |
just people marching? |
21:11 |
ben_vulpes |
nominally 1k humans derping around |
21:11 |
undata |
that'll show 'em |
21:11 |
BingoBoingo |
"Guard Busses are not to be used to block traffic" |
21:11 |
ben_vulpes |
undata: let's stay in and drink |
21:11 |
asciilifeform |
https://twitter.com/search?v=stream&q=%23OCCUPYSTAMP&src=hash&mode=photos |
21:11 |
assbot |
#OCCUPYSTAMP - Twitter Photos Search ... ( http://bit.ly/1zspVQP ) |
21:11 |
ben_vulpes |
lady v's making pies with my younger brother tonight and i don't want to be around for it |
21:11 |
BingoBoingo |
Just turned on http://www.ustream.tv/channel/st-louis-county-police-scanner sounds interesting already |
21:11 |
assbot |
St. Louis County Police Scanner on USTREAM: This is an audio stream of the St. Louis County Police scanners.Ferguson PDRIOT-ARIOT-BRIOT-CRIOT-DRIOT-E... ... ( http://bit.ly/1zspWnS ) |
21:12 |
undata |
ben_vulpes: can't drink tonight; I'm rolling out updates this evening |
21:12 |
ben_vulpes |
stop working |
21:12 |
ben_vulpes |
it's 6:15 |
21:12 |
asciilifeform |
at umd, 'student union' (large bldg full of restaurants) is full of pr0t3st3rs |
21:12 |
ben_vulpes |
no deploys after 3pm or on friday |
21:12 |
asciilifeform |
'While we're hurting, we want to be very visible.' |
21:12 |
asciilifeform |
'People continued to sit and eat. So we took away their seats.' |
21:13 |
asciilifeform |
'This is what being apart of something bigger than yourself looks and feels like' << mega-lol! |
21:14 |
undata |
ben_vulpes: maybe in a bit; lets see if I don't screw everything up |
21:14 |
ben_vulpes |
you won't |
21:14 |
ben_vulpes |
if you do, you should license my hairball |
21:15 |
asciilifeform |
'"Hands up, don't shoot" #OccupyStamp the one girl on her phone at the table, different beliefs?' |
21:15 |
asciilifeform |
oh noez, a wrecker! |
21:17 |
BingoBoingo |
Map of last night's fires https://mapsengine.google.com/map/embed?mid=zSFWwiGyTGoo.k7ELQgmZ3bsA |
21:17 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1zsqQRg ) |
21:18 |
asciilifeform |
http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2014/11/the-only-way-to-stop-empire.html << does not disappoint loltron |
21:18 |
assbot |
ClubOrlov: The Only Way to Stop the Empire ... ( http://bit.ly/1zsr3nA ) |
21:21 |
asciilifeform |
^ mr. o actually calling for 'tax revolt' |
21:22 |
asciilifeform |
imho this clinches the moscow hypothesis. |
21:22 |
asciilifeform |
not even a down's syndrome case would post this from u.s. soil. |
21:23 |
asciilifeform |
scratch that. |
21:23 |
asciilifeform |
guest article. |
21:24 |
asciilifeform |
real question is whether mr o actually drinks the 'kool aid' re: riots being 'popular anger', or merely pretends to. |
21:30 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: what amazes me is why a tax revolt hasn't happened yet |
21:30 |
decimation |
how does usg so utterly dominate the masses? |
21:31 |
BingoBoingo |
Something SOmething 4 victims |
21:33 |
decimation |
BingoBoingo: it would be useful if someone had a copy of rachel by the bay's apco-25 widget running there |
21:33 |
BingoBoingo |
decimation: Getting within range to do that seems precarious |
21:34 |
decimation |
nah, that stuff is repeated over multiple high repeater towers typically |
21:35 |
BingoBoingo |
decimation: You have to understand I am safely on the other side of the Mississippi and would rather stay here atm. |
21:36 |
decimation |
BingoBoingo: within 10-20 miles should be easy range |
21:37 |
asciilifeform |
even if you could decode - what do you expect to find? |
21:37 |
asciilifeform |
of interest, that is |
21:38 |
BingoBoingo |
decimation: But if I go closer than my present 30 miles... I face the possibility of encountering either police or protesters |
21:38 |
decimation |
well, typically the feed that is being relayed on those websites comes from a 'track-tracker' scanner |
21:38 |
decimation |
which can usually only either receive the control channel or a data channel at any one time |
21:38 |
asciilifeform |
why a tax revolt hasn't happened yet: usg has old, reliable, well-oiled mechanisms for dealing with folks who didn't pay. |
21:38 |
decimation |
thus, one would miss conversations of potential interest |
21:39 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: yeah, that plus usg has generally used the power of printed dollars to make it such that most people don't pay taxes, making compliance a non-issue |
21:39 |
asciilifeform |
re: radio: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=25-11-2014#933930 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-11-2014#933935 |
21:39 |
assbot |
Logged on 25-11-2014 03:23:38; asciilifeform: the folks who care about intercept of grunt radios - are concerned with tactic, not strategy. |
21:39 |
assbot |
Logged on 25-11-2014 03:23:50; asciilifeform: that is, the immediate question of whether 'they' are on the way to your sector. |
21:39 |
asciilifeform |
don't expect to find 'juicy' conversation. |
21:39 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: nah, just soap-opera stuff |
21:40 |
asciilifeform |
not even. |
21:40 |
decimation |
actually because of police encryption, the fire dept. is more interesting |
21:40 |
asciilifeform |
mostly 'robot' commands. |
21:40 |
asciilifeform |
e.g., #x-yy at quadrant q. |
21:40 |
decimation |
many fire departments have resisted adopting the pure-digital radios |
21:40 |
asciilifeform |
what i'm saying is that even if one could decrypt the whole lot, it is rarely of interest |
21:40 |
asciilifeform |
unless you're actively engaged |
21:41 |
decimation |
because the shitty codec (made by a proprietary chip company called dvsi) sounds even more shitty while wearing oxygen mask |
21:41 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: yeah, it would really only be of interest to someone who is interesting to the police |
21:41 |
BingoBoingo |
<decimation> many fire departments have resisted adopting the pure-digital radios << Many firefighters/EMS prefer being able to use personally acquired radios |
21:41 |
asciilifeform |
police, incidentally, are the accomplished masters of 'need to know' |
21:41 |
decimation |
otherwise it's kind of an old-man hobby |
21:41 |
asciilifeform |
that is, grunt blocking off a street in dc, typically is telling the truth when says he doesn't know why |
21:42 |
decimation |
firefighters want the old full fm analog system, without compression |
21:42 |
decimation |
because when you want help in burning wearing a mask, you don't want to save bandwidth |
21:42 |
BingoBoingo |
"EMS is en route for child with a fever" |
21:43 |
BingoBoingo |
decimation: I know here firefighters prefer analog for "intelligible range" of transmissions |
21:43 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: wrt police need to know < I think there is some credibility to Mr. Y's thinking that urban police 'bridge the gap' between crazy usg policy and reality |
21:43 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: graceful degradation, yes. |
21:43 |
decimation |
right, the other problem with digital schemes is that they tend to work well down to a low SNR, and then utterly fail |
21:44 |
decimation |
whereas FM might drop out for a few microseconds and one wouldn't notice |
21:44 |
asciilifeform |
this behaviour is achievable on digital using error codes (e.g., trellis) but this - afaik - is not done in p25. |
21:44 |
decimation |
this is one reason why aircraft still use AM modulation |
21:44 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: yes, but that just pushes the 'wall' lower and makes it steeper |
21:45 |
decimation |
plus it implies memory in the system, which implies re-acquisition time |
21:45 |
decimation |
unlike FM, two people can 'speak' on AM radio simultaneously while being simultaneously intelligible to a third party |
21:46 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54550 @ 0.00040453 = 22.0671 BTC [+] {2} |
21:46 |
decimation |
typical FM receivers 'pick' the strongest signal upon which to lock their PLL and thus capture the full output. One can experience this with FM broadcast radio in the car, as you are on the edge of a station's coverage - you hear 'flutter' as your radio switches between two stations |
21:47 |
asciilifeform |
at any rate, anyone who isn't an active participant in the events, and expects to hear some 'interesting' secret over radio - will be disappointed. |
21:47 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Locally vehicle fitted with crazy antennas is one of firefighter or TempleOS app developer. Feds nevar have cool visible antennas |
21:47 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: I tend to agree. Did you see that USG banned flying over st. louis? For your safety. |
21:47 |
asciilifeform |
lol |
21:47 |
BingoBoingo |
decimation: Not over all of St Louis |
21:47 |
asciilifeform |
fire zone. |
21:48 |
decimation |
that's the ostensible reason |
21:48 |
asciilifeform |
usg choppers were supposedly fired upon during 'katrina' |
21:49 |
asciilifeform |
(i once spoke with a police chopper man during a local 'show & tell', asked about armour. he answered 'you gotta be kidding') |
21:49 |
decimation |
heh yeah too much weight for one thing |
21:49 |
decimation |
I don't think most us mil helicopters are armoured |
21:50 |
undata |
the no-fly thing reminds me of Joe Stack |
21:50 |
undata |
the guy that flew a plane into a TX IRS building |
21:50 |
asciilifeform |
no worries, the coming national gendarmerie will have 'apache'. |
21:50 |
undata |
too bad his manifesto was distinctly commie |
21:50 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 104 @ 0.01115126 = 1.1597 BTC [-] |
21:51 |
decimation |
the only armored aircraft I know usg flies is the A-10, and they are trying to get rid of them |
21:51 |
decimation |
apaches might have some too |
21:51 |
asciilifeform |
don't need elaborate armour against civilian small arms. |
21:51 |
BingoBoingo |
part of the traffic they stopped Yesterday in Stl County were passenger Jumbo Jets |
21:52 |
decimation |
generally commercial passenger jets are exempt |
21:52 |
BingoBoingo |
Because where runway is aimed, goes over Ferguson |
21:52 |
asciilifeform |
afaik no one has yet seen it fit to supply the pr0t3st3rs with heavier arms |
21:52 |
asciilifeform |
if moscow has a lick of sense - this is being worked on, there. |
21:53 |
asciilifeform |
all they'd need to do is tip off the right folks re: where the caches are. |
21:53 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Someone is prolly going through file cabinets in Moscow to find Stl metro stockpiles |
21:53 |
asciilifeform |
and how to open them without setting off the mine. |
21:53 |
decimation |
heh |
21:54 |
decimation |
it looks like they lifted the flight restriction in question |
21:55 |
decimation |
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/st-louis-county-police-ferguson-no-fly-zone-was-for/article_76a8ece7-f9de-5fb2-bcf4-9a79422b4f01.html |
21:55 |
assbot |
St. Louis County police: Ferguson no-fly zone was for safety, not to keep media away : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1xZmCUa ) |
21:57 |
decimation |
"“There is really ... no option for a TFR that says, you know, ‘OK, everybody but the media is OK,’ ” he said. The managers then worked out wording they thought would keep news helicopters out of the controlled zone but not impede other air traffic." |
21:57 |
decimation |
of course the carbinari would control air traffic FOR YOUR SAFETY |
21:57 |
BingoBoingo |
decimation: I wouldn't be surprised if that status is in flux. The way Lambert Intl's runways are set... peace in Ferguson is almsot a pre-requisite for safe departures |
21:57 |
decimation |
BingoBoingo: unless winds are bad, most airports have multiple runways |
21:58 |
ben_vulpes |
;;seen PinkPosixPXE |
21:58 |
gribble |
PinkPosixPXE was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 2 days, 15 hours, 40 minutes, and 33 seconds ago: <PinkPosixPXE> ;;gpg info adlai |
21:58 |
ben_vulpes |
;;later tell PinkPosixPXE hey friend got a minute? |
21:58 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
21:58 |
BingoBoingo |
decimation: Sure, but not all the same length and too frequently in the same orientation |
21:58 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1585 @ 0.00124895 = 1.9796 BTC [-] |
22:00 |
decimation |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIuS4qx9WE4 |
22:00 |
assbot |
Shortest runway in the world? - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1xCPbl9 ) |
22:02 |
ben_vulpes |
;;seen punkman |
22:02 |
gribble |
punkman was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 18 hours, 25 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <punkman> https://fuzzing-project.org/software.html |
22:02 |
ben_vulpes |
punkman: yo what's the story with deedbot and deeds.bitcoin-assets.com? |
22:02 |
ben_vulpes |
someone actually emailed *me* about the deeds site being down |
22:02 |
ben_vulpes |
albeit in the context of our derpy fundation, but still |
22:03 |
ben_vulpes |
derpy? i mean culty. |
| |
~ 31 minutes ~ |
22:34 |
BingoBoingo |
http://www.bbcamerica.com/anglophenia/2012/10/50-years-of-bond-george-lazenby-one-hit-wonder/ << Pussy |
22:34 |
assbot |
50 Years of James Bond: George Lazenby, One-Hit Wonder? | Anglophenia | BBC America ... ( http://bit.ly/1Fp8mow ) |
| |
~ 15 minutes ~ |
22:49 |
BingoBoingo |
!up justusranvier |
22:49 |
BingoBoingo |
Hello justusranvier |
22:50 |
BingoBoingo |
Been contemplating any anti-Tempest computer setups justusranvier |
22:55 |
decimation |
lol related: http://theworstthingsforsale.com/2014/11/25/whole-house-neutralizer/ |
22:55 |
assbot |
Whole-House Neutralizer » The Worst Things For Sale ... ( http://bit.ly/1rfRBcG ) |
| |
~ 26 minutes ~ |
23:22 |
asciilifeform |
!s placebocin |
23:22 |
assbot |
2 results for 'placebocin' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=placebocin |
23:23 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: at one point i needed some conductive cloth (the kind with silver strands) for an experiment. to my great surprise, i discovered that there is a large manufacturer in usa, and they do brisk business with folks suffering from precisely the kind of phobia described in decimation's link. |
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↖ ↖ |
23:24 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: It is amazing how many good things come from the demands of the misguided |
23:24 |
assbot |
AMAZING COMPANY! |
23:24 |
asciilifeform |
sticks and straw for cargo cult - amazing business. |
23:24 |
assbot |
AMAZING COMPANY! |
23:24 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: to actually 'seal' an entire room at high frequencies is actually pretty difficult |
23:25 |
* |
asciilifeform knows this well. |
23:25 |
decimation |
think how a cracked window makes a dark room 'light' |
23:25 |
decimation |
'pros' use full metal welded cages with special provisions for all holes |
23:25 |
asciilifeform |
aha. |
23:26 |
asciilifeform |
and with mu-metal for magnetics. |
23:26 |
decimation |
indeed |
23:26 |
asciilifeform |
(yes - magnetic transients exist) |
23:26 |
BingoBoingo |
Just remember to salt the ground around your ground |
23:27 |
decimation |
sure, E-M waves can be generated from either purely electric or purely magnetic fields in motion |
23:28 |
asciilifeform |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igcr5uPt5Hg << on topic |
23:28 |
assbot |
Del Cross B - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1zsMLYA ) |
23:28 |
asciilifeform |
^ for all students |
23:29 |
asciilifeform |
no one who hears it, will forget the equations. |
23:36 |
ben_vulpes |
ah that's fucking brilliant |
23:37 |
* |
mircea_popescu goes to read diligently what teh gents are on about |
23:37 |
ben_vulpes |
i can't believe that i've never seen that until today |
23:38 |
mircea_popescu |
https://www.quantcast.com/qntra.net BingoBoingo cazalla dude this thing's actually catching on! |
23:38 |
assbot |
Qntra.net Traffic and Demographic Statistics by Quantcast ... ( http://bit.ly/1zsOj4H ) |
23:40 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: Today cazalla found so many new incoming links from... actual other news sites |
23:40 |
mircea_popescu |
myeah. teamwork an' errything :) |
23:40 |
mircea_popescu |
you two write more! |
23:41 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: New must happen first. I'm not writing about a fucking image macro like Conde Nasty http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/11/western-union-doesnt-like-bitcoin-spoof-ad-files-dmca-takedown-claim/ Imma write moar though |
23:41 |
assbot |
Western Union doesn’t like Bitcoin spoof ad, files DMCA takedown claim | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1zsOQn8 ) |
23:42 |
asciilifeform |
qntra << lol, it's almost at the level of my own obscure site now. |
23:42 |
cazalla |
asciilifeform, always an optimist eh |
23:42 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo clearly. |
23:43 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Almost. Loper is a big site though. You are TempleOS without the Dopamine blockers. |
23:43 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform well, in some perspectives. |
23:43 |
asciilifeform |
except that qntra is not as forsaken, in that i get 100-200/day except for 1-2 days in a month, where it's 10-30k |
23:43 |
BingoBoingo |
The truth is though that Bitcoin is still an obscure thing |
23:43 |
asciilifeform |
and they're all from some moron reservation |
23:43 |
asciilifeform |
e.g. 'reddit' |
23:44 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Now that I've realized it some months ago I can't forget stumbling into loper well before stumbling into BTC |
23:44 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: how'd you do that |
23:45 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Hypercard Article |
23:45 |
asciilifeform |
aha. |
23:46 |
BingoBoingo |
Hypercard was the tool I used to sort the girls I wanted to fuck in High School... Because 80's movies |
23:50 |
asciilifeform |
lol mr. flood is still in business? |
23:50 |
BingoBoingo |
Perhaps> |
23:50 |
asciilifeform |
quite a few paired 'joined/quit' in today's log. |
23:51 |
BingoBoingo |
TaT joined earleir today but I didn't have time to warn about Mr. Flood before join/part storm affected him |
23:51 |
asciilifeform |
kakobrekla: perhaps add to channel message-line ? |
23:51 |
asciilifeform |
'we have mice' |
23:52 |
BingoBoingo |
Not Mice, whatever the plural of Geese is. Big, but thin neck. |
23:53 |
BingoBoingo |
Geese is threatening animal that any adult simian should be able to swiftly dispatch with bare hands |
23:53 |
kakobrekla |
'joined/quit' < ping timeouts? |
23:53 |
mircea_popescu |
<BingoBoingo> The truth is though that Bitcoin is still an obscure thing << quote. but for that matter, theatre is still a fucking obsscuire thing |
23:53 |
mircea_popescu |
only been around for 5000 years. |
23:53 |
asciilifeform |
kakobrekla: aha |
23:54 |
mircea_popescu |
<asciilifeform> and they're all from some moron reservation <<< how would it work so that a large crowd is anything else ? |
23:55 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: naturally. that's why i no longer even bother to check at most times. |
23:55 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: There's a utility to this though. There's a reason why men range counter tenor to contra bass and yet castrati are something else |
23:55 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla hey, can assbot pm change to |
23:55 |
asciilifeform |
i no longer give a damn if it was 'reddit', 'hacker news', or whatever. |
23:55 |
mircea_popescu |
-assbot- Welcome to #bitcoin-assets. To get voice (ie, to be able to speak), first identify with gribble and then send "!up" to assbot in a private message. If you do not have a WoT account, try politely asking one of the voiced people for a temporary pass. If you get flooded upon connection, go to #Freenode ask for a cloak come back under a different name. |
23:55 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71850 @ 0.00039723 = 28.541 BTC [-] {2} |
23:56 |
asciilifeform |
'or come back under' ? |
23:56 |
mircea_popescu |
o wow, under 40 huh |
23:56 |
kakobrekla |
i very much doubt diff name will halp |
23:56 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla how ? |
23:56 |
kakobrekla |
i mean, do anything |
23:56 |
mircea_popescu |
cloak | diff name ? |
23:57 |
kakobrekla |
diff name |
23:57 |
mircea_popescu |
but my msg says both. |
23:58 |
kakobrekla |
you think there is actually 'if cloak then look in logs for host' ? |
23:59 |
mircea_popescu |
yes. |
23:59 |
kakobrekla |
i doubt it. |
23:59 |
mircea_popescu |
;;isup log.bitcoin-assets.com |
23:59 |
gribble |
log.bitcoin-assets.com is down |
23:59 |
kakobrekla |
what |
23:59 |
kakobrekla |
its up here |
23:59 |
mircea_popescu |
i dunno it died while i was trying to read up on today's affairs. |
23:59 |
mircea_popescu |
;;isup log1.bitcoin-assets.com |
23:59 |
gribble |
log1.bitcoin-assets.com is up |
23:59 |
mircea_popescu |
is that down there ? |