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00:00 kakobrekla no
00:00 kakobrekla up
00:01 ben_vulpes up for me too
00:01 kakobrekla im not seeing anything out of the ordinary
00:01 mircea_popescu bizarre.
00:01 mircea_popescu ;;isup log.bitcoin-assets.com
00:01 gribble log.bitcoin-assets.com is down
00:01 kakobrekla ;;isup liar
00:01 gribble liar is up
00:01 mircea_popescu thanks god for gribble otherwise you'd be calling me teh liar :D
00:01 kakobrekla mhm
00:02 mircea_popescu PFFFF!
00:02 kakobrekla mebbe you bribed it who knows
00:02 ben_vulpes ntube's corruptible!
00:02 ben_vulpes scandal
00:02 mircea_popescu you know it's downforeveryoneelse.com
00:03 BingoBoingo ;;isup ferguson.happy
00:03 gribble ferguson.happy is down
00:03 mircea_popescu pity it doesn't say "went down"
00:03 kakobrekla ;;isup btcusd
00:03 gribble btcusd is up
00:03 kakobrekla arite
00:04 BingoBoingo Ferguson.happy spent 20 years going down. How Ferguson.happy is just down.
00:05 * BingoBoingo is dissapoint feruson burned and not Town and COuntry
00:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80250 @ 0.000392 = 31.458 BTC [-] {3}
00:08 BingoBoingo Clayton burning, even though it hosts county government is prolly impossibru this year
00:17 BingoBoingo !up hiddosme
00:17 mircea_popescu lol
00:18 mircea_popescu does it work ?
00:21 * BingoBoingo thinks kako gives his bait names of excessive obvious. What's Wrong with Tom?
00:23 kakobrekla yes it works
00:24 mircea_popescu assbot: 2014 Proof of Honor (POH) Awards << bwahahaa o god.
00:24 mircea_popescu pashtuncoin ?
00:25 kakobrekla peaked at about 1.2gbps
00:25 asciilifeform logs alive here.
00:25 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: You've been nominate nao https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=855130.msg9655184#msg9655184
00:25 assbot 2014 Proof of Honor (POH) Awards - Official Voting begins December 1st (12/1)! ... ( http://bit.ly/1vkMsQb )
00:25 mircea_popescu i dunno what this is ?
00:27 mircea_popescu https://i.imgur.com%2Fffg7VCp.png&t=546&c=30RGfn8AjBfL0g << who are all these people.
00:27 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Some spam asperzing site that wants to be BTC news is hosting "awards"
00:28 mircea_popescu "What is Proof of Honor? The turbulence in our cryptosphere has made it difficult at times to spot out the real leaders – the true innovators. We have introduced the Proof of Honor as an award to acknowledge the achievement of those who have brought to this environment something new and exciting."
00:28 asciilifeform http://blog.nexusguard.com/ssdp-ddos-attacks << intro to the type of idiot vulnerability used by mr. flood.
00:28 assbot SSDP M-Search Attack - Another Amplified Reflexive DDoS Attack Analysis - The Nexusguard Blog ... ( http://bit.ly/1vkMGHb )
00:28 mircea_popescu look at that, fight turbulence with turbulence!
00:28 mircea_popescu well, esl turbulence anyway.
00:32 BingoBoingo Well, ESL user that spams reddit with blog, doesn't get called out for it. Prolly because eSL
00:32 BingoBoingo https://www.reddit.com/user/TkHamed
00:32 assbot overview for TkHamed ... ( http://bit.ly/1vkN08E )
00:34 mircea_popescu !up Decima|
00:35 * ben_vulpes is still benefiting from decades of others good decisions buried in emacs - this week, proper connection and cloaking behavior in the irc client
00:35 kakobrekla btw BingoBoingo the thing is automated, and just like there is no searching the log for old ips, there is also no check if nick contains 'ddos' letters
00:36 mircea_popescu ^
00:36 ben_vulpes does anyone have experience compiling bitcoin from source on free or open bsd?
00:38 BingoBoingo kakobrekla: Ah, I wasn't sure they'd advanced to automating. Thought they'd still be mating with their hand.
00:38 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: loper-os.org/pub/flood.txt.gz << in case you missed
00:39 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: I saw, was overwhelmed. I'm still benefiting from great design decisions made in who knows the fuck what anymore.
00:41 BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: Dignork does
00:41 BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: danielpbarron also does
00:43 BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: There is evidence I've done it on sun OS, but no memory of having done so, so unproductive tree to bark up.
00:44 ben_vulpes lol sun os that's pretty good
00:44 BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: The useful versions are basically classical era BSD.
00:45 BingoBoingo Before divergence set in
00:45 mircea_popescu babbys_first_bit: i have a shitty laptop that I've devoted to my cold storage, disabled wifi etc <<< check out noob with solid plan.
00:45 BingoBoingo He really was on it until...
00:48 ben_vulpes ;;later tell dignork hey wouldja check in with me about your experiences with bitcoin on bsd?
00:48 gribble The operation succeeded.
00:48 ben_vulpes ;;later tell danielpbarron hey wouldja check in with me about your experiences with bitcoin on bsd?
00:48 gribble The operation succeeded.
00:49 BingoBoingo !up mikaeldice
00:49 asciilifeform http://www.art.net/~hopkins/Don/unix-haters/x-windows/disaster.html << good vintage h4t3f3st
00:49 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1vkOgZn )
00:49 asciilifeform 'The X-Windows Disaster: How to make a 50-MIPS Workstation Run Like a 4.77MHz IBM PC'
00:50 * asciilifeform a fan of the 'handbook'
00:50 BingoBoingo I really dunno who isn't
00:50 * asciilifeform reluctant to show it to modern folks on account of 'so you must like winblows then, aha'
00:50 ben_vulpes v -> w -> x
00:50 ben_vulpes really?
00:50 kakobrekla ddos cuts after 30min
00:50 BingoBoingo I spread it around at library school. The Linux people liked it. The system Z and Mac people who though Mac was *nix hated it
00:51 BingoBoingo The windows folk just weren't people
00:51 mikaeldice I reinstalled Windows as a dual boot after a couple years of solely Debian so I could play a game.. It felt dirty.
00:52 BingoBoingo mikaeldice: I run a windows instance as a game console, no shame as long as you protect the rest of the internet from it
00:52 mircea_popescu <kakobrekla> ddos cuts after 30min << yeah, cheapo least effort sorta thing
00:52 kakobrekla yup
00:53 asciilifeform cheapo least effort << think this way: there are not many chumpnets that can be sliced into N slices (one for each of us, 24/7) and still be of any use.
00:53 asciilifeform so gotta take turns.
00:58 ben_vulpes could one spam the spammorz? flood the channel with reasonable-ish nicks?
00:59 kakobrekla could as well be unreasonable.
00:59 * ben_vulpes shrugs
00:59 ben_vulpes flood the channel with connections?
00:59 kakobrekla as i displayed earlier
00:59 * ben_vulpes is only sort of paying attention over here
00:59 ben_vulpes other irons
01:01 kakobrekla well, allow me to enlighten you
01:01 kakobrekla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-11-2014#935196
01:01 assbot Logged on 26-11-2014 05:17:50; BingoBoingo: !up hiddosme
01:01 kakobrekla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-11-2014#935203
01:01 assbot Logged on 26-11-2014 05:25:02; kakobrekla: peaked at about 1.2gbps
01:01 ben_vulpes well there you have it
01:01 kakobrekla but my guess is it works single threaded.
01:03 kakobrekla someone with a fat pipe, rejoin every 30 min, problem fixed
01:04 ben_vulpes ;;ident mod6
01:04 gribble Nick 'mod6', with hostmask 'mod6!03e884ed7a@rider.us', is identified as user 'mod6', with GPG key id 721705A8B71EADAF, key fingerprint 027A8D7C0FB8A16643720F40721705A8B71EADAF, and bitcoin address None
01:04 ben_vulpes ;;ident
01:04 gribble Nick 'ben_vulpes', with hostmask 'ben_vulpes!~user@unaffiliated/benkay', is identified as user 'ben_vulpes', with GPG key id 2AFA1A9FD2D031DA, key fingerprint 4F7907942CA8B89B01E25A762AFA1A9FD2D031DA, and bitcoin address None
01:06 ben_vulpes hola punkman
01:07 mircea_popescu lol
01:07 mircea_popescu ;;seen peterl
01:07 gribble peterl was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 days, 2 hours, 30 minutes, and 11 seconds ago: <PeterL> Like you said, you can own a small piece, but nobody owns the whole thing
01:07 mircea_popescu ;;seen scoopbot
01:07 gribble scoopbot was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 5 days, 0 hours, 30 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: <scoopbot> New post on Qntra.net by Bingo Boingo: http://qntra.net/2014/11/isis-introduces-coins/
01:07 ben_vulpes whatsa deal with the notary?
01:07 mircea_popescu soooo... who wants to make an actual scoopbot ?
01:07 punkman ben_vulpes: it needs hosting
01:07 mircea_popescu punkman yeah waht was that hack all about ?
01:08 mircea_popescu what do you need, to host it ?
01:08 ben_vulpes what was the story on the hack?
01:08 punkman I got no idea, didn't find anything
01:08 mircea_popescu ugh so then how did it happen ?
01:08 ben_vulpes what was the result of the hack? flood from your IP?
01:09 punkman again, no idea. Hetzner sent email about kako's digitalocean instance. supposedly some network scan/attack originating from it.
01:09 mircea_popescu is that the only indication ?
01:09 ben_vulpes but db intact, btc safe
01:09 ben_vulpes gpg keyring unmolested
01:09 punkman yep
01:10 ben_vulpes were you doing full backups for comparison?
01:10 mircea_popescu ah so forgetr it then, they're idiots.
01:10 punkman mircea_popescu: well the b/w logs etc supported the theory
01:10 kakobrekla it could be someone fucked up the incoming and outgoing traffic again. would not be the first time. not even the second. probably not even the third. in a month.
01:10 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu lol shooting from the hip
01:10 mircea_popescu punkman so what do you need to host it ? an aws ? or what ?
01:10 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes he is literally correct incidentally. we have email where "isp expert" confused the incoming with the outgoing
01:11 BingoBoingo ;;ticker
01:11 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 377.0, Best ask: 377.48, Bid-ask spread: 0.48000, Last trade: 377.0, 24 hour volume: 14510.97122213, 24 hour low: 371.0, 24 hour high: 395.11, 24 hour vwap: 0
01:11 punkman mircea_popescu: well someone could further inspect the supposedly "hacked" instance, can keep using that
01:12 mircea_popescu i don't care what you use, but it's not online is the problem.
01:13 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo: He prolly ate them. << lawl.
01:13 kakobrekla this thing is a ba subdomain, its 'hot'. not for do. needs a different home.
01:14 mircea_popescu ah. yeah makes sense. "least effort hosting" specialists.
01:14 kakobrekla well its ok if you dont plan to offend the idiots. at least too much.
01:14 mircea_popescu punkman do you have any providers you like ?
01:15 punkman mircea_popescu: not really
01:16 mircea_popescu kakobrekla im kinda against giving any money to "least effort" sorta providers, because it narrows the pie for the legitimate guys. if i want 10 items of which one is rare, i WILL NOT buy the 10 from any of the shops that don't carry the 10th. that way that guy gets some nice business and the idiots get a valuable signal.
01:16 mircea_popescu punkman what do you need to run it, root on linux ?
01:16 mircea_popescu if you can live with a cpanel account i can spin you one up rightnao.
01:17 punkman don't need root, except for binding HTTP server to :80
01:17 mircea_popescu lol. okay, what's the domain ?
01:17 mircea_popescu or did it even have one ?
01:18 mircea_popescu !up ShaneDCC
01:18 punkman deeds.bitcoin-assets.com ?
01:18 mircea_popescu punkman aite brb
01:19 mircea_popescu punkman pm me an email.
01:19 punkman ben_vulpes: someone actually emailed *me* about the deeds site being down << is the foundation getting fan mail already?
01:21 ben_vulpes yes actually.
01:21 ben_vulpes not gpg signed, but w/e.
01:21 kakobrekla mircea_popescu it just has to do with the fact they are very over provisioned
01:21 kakobrekla for some things this is ok
01:21 kakobrekla for serious things its not
01:21 kakobrekla basta cosi
01:22 mircea_popescu punkman deed http://pastebin.com/et7WFdLZ
01:22 assbot -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) hQIMAwyIh9yLf - Pastebin.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1zWNq5c )
01:22 mircea_popescu kakobrekla you mean oversold ?
01:23 mircea_popescu but yeah, i know what you're sayin'.
01:27 BingoBoingo Another PD car down http://www.kmov.com/special-coverage-001/Demonstrations-continue-around-St-Louis-in-protest-of-grand-jury-decision-283921341.html
01:28 assbot Patrol car set on fire, rocks thrown at City Hall in second night of protests | KMOV.com St. Louis ... ( http://bit.ly/1vM2cxK )
01:28 * BingoBoingo wonder why still civil unrest in Ferguson and not CLayton or Town and Country.
01:28 BingoBoingo Even Maryland Heights.
01:29 BingoBoingo No, civil unrest in Ferguson and Dellwood again.
01:29 mircea_popescu what they're still going ?
01:31 BingoBoingo Well, they paused for daylight.
01:31 mircea_popescu Apocalyptic: I was kind of wondering about it recently, it could make sense <<< i said i suspected so, now he's haunting me with it.
01:31 BingoBoingo Less stuff to burn tonight, but still ongoing
01:32 ben_vulpes any suggestions on openbsd hosting?
01:32 BingoBoingo The "city" they were in as understood by a poor american is gone, but...
01:32 BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: physical box, cheap rack
01:32 mircea_popescu asciilifeform: usg ships afghani opium directly into ru. <<< opium wars 2.0 ?
01:32 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes generally, get a dedicated/colocated box, run w/e.
01:33 BingoBoingo Virtualizing OpenBSD is still not very pleasant or economical compared to colo-rack with boxen
01:34 BingoBoingo OpenBSD is slowly getting better at tolerating VMware and Qemu, but devs still primalirly target Iron
01:34 ben_vulpes BingoBoingo: you capitalize like a german.
01:35 ben_vulpes and maybe i can justify some steel and a rack for 2015.
01:35 BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: I grew up in a town that is white, but Kraut rather than Anglo trash
01:35 mircea_popescu asciilifeform: literally, piles << quite. for a while in the 90s the way to get a cessna or local clone was to go to the pile.
01:35 mircea_popescu if you could make it work it was yours.
01:36 * BingoBoingo thought about moving thedrinkingrecord.com to dedicated hardware, but probably leaching Dreamhost forever so DDoS is their problem
01:36 * BingoBoingo reminds now that I have not flown ON an aeroplane much less flown an aeroplane
01:38 mircea_popescu o.O
01:38 * BingoBoingo reminds exploring the Darien as a land route to freedom...
01:39 mircea_popescu asciilifeform: have to understand, jet fighter is not really a complete machine. it is a tentacle of the larger industrial slave empire which produced and employed it. much like your finger cannot function for long or very usefully unless attached to the rest of you << so very aptly put.
01:39 BingoBoingo I'll prolly ust wait until I can buy a fucking blue water capable boat though
01:39 ben_vulpes ;;gettrust mrjr
01:39 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user ben_vulpes to user mrjr: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=ben_vulpes&dest=mrjr | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=mrjr | Rated since: never
01:39 ben_vulpes lol well drivebys are drivebys
01:41 ben_vulpes http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=310
01:41 assbot #bitcoin-assets bash ... ( http://bit.ly/1vM4bCb )
01:42 ben_vulpes haw
01:44 mircea_popescu lol dat bash
01:45 ben_vulpes .butts is an excellent tld and serenissima.butts would be too perfect i say again
01:45 mircea_popescu why not .ba
01:45 ben_vulpes so conventional!
01:45 mircea_popescu anyway, im not spending a million dollars to buy into what's fundamentally a dead tech.
01:45 mircea_popescu i'd rather buy 1mn dollars' worth of betamax gear.
01:46 ben_vulpes ba's just so tightly bound to this particular irc instantiation
01:47 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: But the best videos are on Betamax
01:47 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo ikr ?
01:47 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes i sersiouly see more future for irc than for the web.
01:48 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: I mean Betamax has more porn with white girls who want to do pron.
01:48 mircea_popescu i dunno.
01:48 mircea_popescu porn of the period is ridiculous fail.
01:49 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: How is it fail. They do porn. You get off. They try not porn at all, you recover, and then they do porn again.
01:49 mircea_popescu any clits on betamax ?
01:50 BingoBoingo Sure, under the bush
01:50 mircea_popescu my point.
01:50 mircea_popescu i dunno how i could fuck an 80s woman without a three week prep course.
01:51 ben_vulpes for her or you?
01:51 * BingoBoingo had a girlfriend in High School who routinely wore shoulder pads
01:51 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes for her.
01:51 mircea_popescu they've not yet invented "forgetness education"
01:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 27 @ 0.0994545 = 2.6853 BTC [+] {5}
01:52 ben_vulpes <Vexual> here we go, it;s 20yearmoney to tell u sabout growth << some days i really can't tell if markov
01:53 BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: If you want true markov revelations, you really need to give templeOS a spin
01:53 ben_vulpes <mircea_popescu> (moreover my point was that growing shit is taking care of the small problem, most of your energetic needs aren't "what to eat") << so seaweed in giant nets?
01:54 mircea_popescu what if no seaweeds ? what if "seaweeed tax" introduced ? etc.
01:54 ben_vulpes holy shit how am i still 1k under
01:54 mircea_popescu 1k under what.
01:54 ben_vulpes log lines
01:55 mircea_popescu im almost caught up myself.
01:55 ben_vulpes what sort of scenario leads to no seaweeds? could one not grow them oneself? and who's to tax the tiny barge floating many many miles from nowhere?
01:55 ben_vulpes well you don't have a job anymore that's unfair and i'm going to call the communists on you
01:56 mircea_popescu by the way, the dark meadow is probably the best ipad game ever made. it's so good in fact it's definitely giving the platform a reason to exist.
01:56 mircea_popescu this is the first time
02:00 * BingoBoingo knows exactly why he exists, because 11kg bird and pre-Thanksgiving family fracture. I am going to up on 15lbs of weight in under an hour
02:01 * BingoBoingo offers 15lb figure based on an estimation that anything less than twice the bird's weight in stuffing is jsut impolite.
02:01 mircea_popescu asciilifeform: (not a misprint! there were once intelligent, educated woman programmers in usa. but when the profession became 'blue collar' - akin to, e.g., cement mixer operator - they mostly disappeared.) << chetty being one of them.
02:03 mircea_popescu http://rachelbythebay.com/w/2011/06/04/fireandforget/ << why exactly does any of this have anything to do with sexism, discrimination or gender ?
02:03 assbot Fire and forget, or sexism in software engineering ... ( http://bit.ly/11u19of )
02:04 mircea_popescu idiot manager. no further explanation necessary.
02:05 mircea_popescu undata: which runs counter to the point of hiring her << fwiw my read is exactly opposite. chick was fine, dude was inept.
02:05 mircea_popescu you seriously can't tell me one walk every coupla weeks is overcommunicating.
02:06 mircea_popescu fuck, back in the day if guys didn't hear a "walk with me" for a week or two straight they'd start worried they got fired and everyone forgot to tell em.
02:07 ben_vulpes ^^
02:08 ben_vulpes i do this with walks to the coffee shop
02:08 * BingoBoingo offers that aluminum filings do a lot to stiffen up concrete
02:08 ben_vulpes also firing decisions get made on day n and executed on n+1, but i understand that this is far more rigorous than my 'peers' could ever imagine pulling off.
02:08 ben_vulpes because...raised by single mothers i guess.
02:09 fluffypony fuck labour law
02:09 ben_vulpes <babbys_first_bit> trilema and the convalex << lol convalexent
02:09 ben_vulpes fluffypony: what does labor law have to do with anything?
02:10 fluffypony I have to give my domestic worker a written warning today for washing (and screwing up) leather pillows
02:10 fluffypony because the Basic Conditions of Employment Act won't let me fire her on the spot for that
02:10 ben_vulpes your fault for hiring her officially i guess.
02:10 fluffypony you don't have a choice
02:10 fluffypony the BCEA says that she's an employee even without a contract
02:10 ben_vulpes no, *you* don't have a choice.
02:11 mircea_popescu asciilifeform: real question is whether mr o actually drinks the 'kool aid' re: riots being 'popular anger', or merely pretends to. <<< fwiw, i also happen to think they're based on popular anger.
02:11 mircea_popescu just, not the sort of anger they like to ee there.
02:11 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes afaik that's standard practice.
02:12 mircea_popescu fluffypony aahahhaha gtfo.
02:12 mircea_popescu why live in a country you can't fire the help
02:12 * BingoBoingo actually thnks Micheal Moore circa 2005 was right, anger is mistargeted geographically
02:12 fluffypony mircea_popescu: because the help is cheap :-P
02:12 mircea_popescu how cheap ?
02:12 fluffypony we pay her $13 a day
02:13 mircea_popescu ok, that's cheap.
02:13 ben_vulpes ah come man
02:13 mircea_popescu course... how much were the leather pillows ?
02:13 ben_vulpes you've invested more in training.
02:13 fluffypony yeah and we're paying more than our neighbours
02:13 fluffypony about $150 each
02:13 mircea_popescu tbh, i wouldn't fire a 13 a day woman that fucked up something through not having a clue.
02:13 fluffypony well that's the thing, she didn't know better
02:13 fluffypony so a written warning should fix that going forward
02:13 mircea_popescu yeah, srsly. fuck the act, why do you want to fire her.
02:14 ben_vulpes fluffypony wants to complain about socialism
02:14 fluffypony I don't - but having to write the warning down and get her to sign it irritates me
02:14 ben_vulpes "mu labur"
02:14 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes if he does it backfired lol
02:14 mircea_popescu fluffypony why lol
02:14 fluffypony mircea_popescu: laziness :-P
02:14 mircea_popescu eh get out, be the master you wish to see in the world.
02:14 fluffypony I am the master of my own laziness
02:14 undata fluffypony: take the massive discount you're getting on her standard of living and get another pillow
02:14 mircea_popescu lol
02:15 ben_vulpes dude if you have multi hundo pillows you gotta instruct the staff w/r/t caretaking
02:15 undata then say "if you aren't sure whether something can be washed, ask me"
02:15 undata solved?
02:15 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes he's new at this entire being rich thing.
02:15 fluffypony heh heh
02:15 mircea_popescu lol
02:15 ben_vulpes lol 13 dollar a day help is rich nao?
02:15 ben_vulpes in south africa?
02:15 mircea_popescu hey, you pay going rate, what.
02:15 * fluffypony is rolling in the deep
02:16 mircea_popescu so anyone invited rachel by the bay over here yet ?
02:16 ben_vulpes undata: get it all derployed?
02:17 mircea_popescu decimation: how does usg so utterly dominate the masses? <<< you can't be serious ?
02:17 ben_vulpes <babbys_first_bit> "ARMORY BACKUP FOR EXTREME BITCOIN WEALTH" << lol get this character back in here
02:17 undata ben_vulpes: yep, nothing broke. fiddling with http-kit atm
02:17 ben_vulpes DITCH IT DRINK BUBBLES
02:17 mircea_popescu "the masses" exist thermodynamically because the government is giving them free stuff.
02:17 mircea_popescu what "rebel"
02:17 ben_vulpes nah fuggit's too late.
02:18 fluffypony is 9am too early for beer?
02:18 ben_vulpes plus there's not enough of this bottle left to properly share.
02:18 ben_vulpes fluffypony: HELL NO
02:18 BingoBoingo fluffypony: Never too early for beer. If you want to put a serious offer in on a butler though...
02:18 ben_vulpes i mean if you're willing to drink that gut ruining obesity inducing shit
02:18 punkman wine's better in the early hours
02:18 BingoBoingo ^
02:18 BingoBoingo Vodka forever
02:18 ben_vulpes wine is just better.
02:18 ben_vulpes always.
02:19 undata I prefer wine, cider, or liquor
02:19 BingoBoingo ANd by vodka I mean grain alcohol + Distilled water
02:19 fluffypony I only have red wine, and that's more an evening thing
02:19 ben_vulpes undata: american cider is just fortified fruit juice.
02:19 BingoBoingo BEst to mix one's own vodka
02:19 ben_vulpes scrumpy tho
02:20 undata ben_vulpes: this reverend nats is 6.9%, not too bad
02:20 ben_vulpes residual sugars: rotyourteeth%
02:21 ben_vulpes <babbys_first_bit> Why haven't the devs or the general userbase demanded we switch from BTC to micro BTC or whatever << okay okay i repent
02:23 * fluffypony demands it
02:23 fluffypony demand all of the things
02:23 ben_vulpes <asciilifeform> this is a top reptilian priority. << this lizard hitler thing requires too much competence to be plausible. i prefer by miles and acres the "bureaucracy controlled by their enemies" interpretation.
02:25 mircea_popescu !up supay
02:25 ben_vulpes oh a wild recruiter
02:25 ben_vulpes and supay
02:25 mircea_popescu who's supay ?
02:25 ben_vulpes fuck if i know
02:26 supay lol
02:26 supay thanks mircea_popescu :)
02:26 ben_vulpes lol http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-05-2014#654187
02:26 assbot Logged on 01-05-2014 22:07:24; supay: gee thanks benkay!
02:27 ben_vulpes ;;rated supay
02:27 gribble You have not yet rated user supay
02:27 supay i was wondering what is the speculation of the price per bitcoin by the end of the year
02:27 mircea_popescu ;;google bitcoin-assets rules and regulations
02:27 ben_vulpes gribble your state messages are totally stale
02:27 gribble IRS Notice 2014-21 - Internal Revenue Service: <http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-drop/n-14-21.pdf>; Is bitcoin legal? - CoinDesk: <http://www.coindesk.com/information/is-bitcoin-legal/>; New York Proposes Bitcoin Regulations | Money.com - Time: <http://time.com/money/3004751/new-york-bitcoin-regulations-benjamin-lawsky/>
02:27 mircea_popescu orly.
02:27 ben_vulpes is bitcoin legal?
02:27 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-assets-rules-and-regulations/
02:27 assbot #bitcoin-assets rules and regulations pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1HFrr8a )
02:27 * ben_vulpes blinks, rubs eyes.
02:28 supay nobody?
02:28 supay i dont think it can reach the $10,000 mark, not just yet
02:29 mircea_popescu supay read that, come back when you get the idea.
02:29 mircea_popescu !down supay
02:30 mircea_popescu asciilifeform: usg choppers were supposedly fired upon during 'katrina' << not supposedly. actual fact.
02:30 mircea_popescu which is what i mean by "anger" earlier. yea, anger. just, not the sort people talking of it would like to presume.
02:33 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes: derpy? i mean culty. <<< dude you may be the only head of a foundation that says such things.
02:33 mircea_popescu "oh you know, our derpy united nations thing"
02:33 mircea_popescu and how wildly appropriate'd it be!
02:34 ben_vulpes i eagerly wake every morning looking for reality to disprove my assumptions and contestations.
02:34 mircea_popescu asciilifeform re conductive cloth : easy cheap and pleasant anti-taser pill. watch the operator /whould police tough man get 3rd degree bunrs ? win.
02:34 ben_vulpes too many days without a rude correction and i start to worry i'm deep in delusion.
02:35 ben_vulpes by the by, what's your beef with sara sharp?
02:36 mircea_popescu shiiit, i caught up on the logs! WOW.
02:36 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes who ?
02:36 ben_vulpes !s sarah sharp
02:36 assbot 1 results for 'sarah sharp' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=sarah+sharp
02:37 ben_vulpes there are even trilema references
02:38 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes derpy anon chick with no contributions or redeeming qualities, woke up talking one day about torvalds. the old libtard story about how "words are bad mkay"
02:38 mircea_popescu no beef per se.
02:38 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-assets-rules-and-regulations/#footnote_2_49047 << pretty much the whole story./
02:38 assbot #bitcoin-assets rules and regulations pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1HFrXTt )
02:39 * ben_vulpes fumbles for cock joke, is tired and chewing through logs, gives up
02:39 mircea_popescu !up maustrapper
02:39 mircea_popescu ;;isup log.bitcoin-assets.com
02:39 gribble log.bitcoin-assets.com is down
02:39 mircea_popescu lol
02:39 kakobrekla what, it aint related
02:40 ben_vulpes nonsense.
02:40 mircea_popescu huh ?
02:40 ben_vulpes up for me
02:41 kakobrekla yea
02:41 mircea_popescu so apparently there's two lobes of the internets.
02:41 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu gets speshul attacks.
02:48 mircea_popescu http://rachelbythebay.com/w/2013/02/22/mac/ << this is actually an excellent piece.
02:48 assbot I mortgaged my future with a Mac ... ( http://bit.ly/1HFsoNA )
02:48 mircea_popescu With all of my music on there, suddenly I no longer needed to fight with whatever screwball music player was on my Linux box at the office. I just moved my headphones over to my laptop and kept them there. iTunes took over my music playing needs.
02:48 mircea_popescu That's pretty much how it went. Soon, I found myself sitting on the couch at home chatting with people from the laptop instead of sitting at my desk where the "real" computer (Linux box) was. It slowly wormed its way into my life, and before long, I was using it to browse my usual haunts
02:48 mircea_popescu that's EXACTLY what the plan is.
02:48 ben_vulpes blech
02:49 ben_vulpes if you have the opportunity to purchase "portuga" a wine from "lisboa" - don't
02:49 ben_vulpes "wine"
02:50 mircea_popescu !up hiddosme
02:51 ben_vulpes All I ever did with it was run Firefox and ssh around to actually do work on "real" machines << this is where my workflow's going
02:54 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes which is why all the nsa effort put into hijacking this particular workflow, five years ago.
02:58 kakobrekla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-11-2014#935270 < no cigar, bugger jumps ships on new joins.
02:58 assbot Logged on 26-11-2014 06:03:07; kakobrekla: someone with a fat pipe, rejoin every 30 min, problem fixed
02:58 mircea_popescu so do a protective rejoin.
02:58 mircea_popescu "As you can see, I mortgaged my future. Instead of staying with my wonky-but-free ways of doing things, I shifted all of my stuff over to the Mac. It gladly embraced all of it and jealously took it in, never to give it back. Now when I want to get back out, I have to do all of the work I thought I had managed to avoid by using a Mac in the first place." << WORD.
02:59 mircea_popescu "all the work usg agents are saving you ? it's work you still have to do. they're just persuasively and pervasively lying about it, while it collects interest undone."
03:00 kakobrekla right now im going to do body {position: horizontal;}
03:00 kakobrekla that not even valid
03:00 kakobrekla whatever.
03:00 mircea_popescu lol. nn.
03:00 ben_vulpes fuck a css
03:01 ben_vulpes <asciilifeform> a greybeard and squad of monkeys parts them out, maintaining the handful in some semblance of working order. << it was either the monkeysquad or computers for me
03:02 ben_vulpes managing a family of bolts in Musk's Rocket just didn't charm me.
03:03 ben_vulpes <asciilifeform> diphenhydramine << iirc, snips off stage 4. no thx << when in catastrophic sleep fucked uppedness, stage 4 not really a big deal so much as just getting some damn sleep.
03:04 ben_vulpes dub: are you at least using amphetamines?
03:05 mircea_popescu http://nithgrim.wordpress.com/2014/10/21/the-web-of-dependency/ < "This is the kind of thing Ivan Illich wrote about all the time, and it’s still happening today, to you. With the convenience of frozen dinners and restaurant meals, one quickly loses the knack for preparing food."
03:05 assbot The web of dependency | nydwracu niþgrim, nihtbealwa mæst ... ( http://bit.ly/1HFtkl8 )
03:05 ben_vulpes <undata> bah! hearsay! << hearsay and heresy
03:05 mircea_popescu this is fucking nonsense of the prime order. how come im unaffected ?
03:06 mircea_popescu "with the convenien ce of jacking off, one quickly loses the ability to pick up" ? something like that ?
03:06 mircea_popescu hint : it depends on the one. of course primitive fucktards in the amzon will keel over for any westerner. so they should, they're not human, they're junk.
03:06 ben_vulpes ;;later tell xanthyos until you share those photos you're a goddamn scammer
03:06 gribble The operation succeeded.
03:06 mircea_popescu that same process does not carry when actual humans are involved.
03:07 ben_vulpes oh and just who is fred then?
03:07 mircea_popescu the romans "conquered" the greeks and then a century later the toga was replaced by greek habits. herpity derp.
03:07 ben_vulpes surely just a fictional character.
03:08 mircea_popescu "Another example: the replacement of folk culture (decentralized/distributed, varying and variable, illegible to bureaucracies, difficult to control) with mass culture (centralized, impossible to edit, bureaucratic, easy to control) — less effortful and allowing for much higher production values and potentially much more talent, but in practice, buying in tends to mean letting your enemies put thoughts into your head
03:08 mircea_popescu ." << this is like the power of the press. it's "impossible to edit" for as long as you're not editing it.
03:09 mircea_popescu meanwhile if you do edit it you end up with trilema. which IS impossible to control, nearly illegible to bureaucrats yet immensely powerful.
03:09 mircea_popescu good approach to keeping a blog these days : edit mass culture.
03:10 mircea_popescu proceed from a folk paradigm, you're a trubadour of the 1300s. edit that bitch. retell it.
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03:30 ben_vulpes http://nodeps.shithouse.tv/
03:30 assbot nodeps ... ( http://bit.ly/1HFuzRi )
03:31 ben_vulpes ahahaha i think i'm logged up
03:31 ben_vulpes SUCKERS
03:31 ben_vulpes seriously how do you fuckers keep up with these heavy days
03:32 ben_vulpes dat feel when you start seeing your own lines in the log from today
03:33 ben_vulpes <decimation> asciilifeform: yeah, that plus usg has generally used the power of printed dollars to make it such that most people don't pay taxes, making compliance a non-issue << wat
03:33 ben_vulpes ;;later tell decimation please for to explain to retards like me "asciilifeform: yeah, that plus usg has generally used the power of printed dollars to make it such that most people don't pay taxes, making compliance a non-issue"
03:33 gribble The operation succeeded.
03:36 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes> dat feel when you start seeing your own lines in the log from today << srsly.
03:38 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: re "fundation", good artists steal etc http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-07-2013#120176
03:38 assbot Logged on 03-07-2013 19:32:03; mircea_popescu: the jig is up!
03:40 ben_vulpes <BingoBoingo> asciilifeform: Now that I've realized it some months ago I can't forget stumbling into loper well before stumbling into BTC << myself as well, but on the topics of lisp
03:40 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes what am i not getting here
03:41 ben_vulpes gotta say, set me up well for the drudgery of programming.
03:41 ben_vulpes can't quite agree that programmering is any worse than laboring on/in the production lines though.
03:42 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: ah shit that was the am link
03:43 mircea_popescu lol turns out asciilifeform is more responsible for the cult than i.
03:44 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2012/let-me-show-you-why-i-like-bitcoin/
03:44 assbot Let me show you why I like Bitcoin pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1HFvdy9 )
03:44 ben_vulpes mthreat: log search does not extend to 2012
03:44 ben_vulpes things that need doing:
03:45 ben_vulpes - scoopbot
03:45 ben_vulpes - deedbot
03:45 ben_vulpes - searchthinger
03:45 ben_vulpes deedbot is written
03:45 ben_vulpes scoopbot is written
03:45 mircea_popescu from what i recall mthreat had an open call for logs, got something, and that's what's up there.
03:45 ben_vulpes searchthinger is a matter of dumping logs into postgres and indexing for fulltext search.
03:45 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: well where are yours then?
03:46 mircea_popescu where are my what ?
03:46 ben_vulpes your logs backing that trilema post
03:46 mircea_popescu my logs didn't get included in there because i only log when im on obviously, and that's kinda hole-y.
03:47 * ben_vulpes refuses the bait
03:47 mircea_popescu oh oh i see what you mean lol
03:47 mircea_popescu itreallyhappened(tm)
03:47 ben_vulpes suuuuuuuure.
03:48 ben_vulpes
03:48 ben_vulpes http://tm.shithouse.tv/ << for future reference
03:48 assbot ™ ... ( http://bit.ly/1HFvr8H )
03:49 ben_vulpes k well with that adieu fair sirs
03:49 mircea_popescu enjoy.
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04:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52150 @ 0.00040872 = 21.3147 BTC [+] {3}
~ 41 minutes ~
05:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56300 @ 0.00040383 = 22.7356 BTC [-]
05:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1665 @ 0.001245 = 2.0729 BTC [-] {2}
05:27 mircea_popescu "a new kind of proof: Proof of Faucet"
05:34 cazalla !up mediaDCC
05:41 adlai https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dd/Moka_Animation.gif
05:41 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Cf0V5b )
05:42 adlai good morning freenode
05:45 adlai yknow lispland isn't all harmonious satori: http://ergoemacs.org/emacs/elisp_common_lisp_in_emacs.html
05:45 assbot Controversy of Common Lisp Package in Emacs Lisp ... ( http://bit.ly/1Cf1QCP )
05:46 adlai discuss: who is further afield, xahlee or losethos?
~ 20 minutes ~
06:07 * adlai stares for a few minutes at altcoin charts, trying to figure out how people can still be so stupid
06:11 adlai http://www.truthcoin.info/blog/altcoins-are-not-coins/ <- somebody (obviously not me, ain't nobody got time for this) should back this up with some of them colorful utxo age "info"graphics
06:11 assbot Altcoins Aren't Money, They're Bitcoin's Casino | Truthcoin: Trustless P2P Prediction Marketplace ... ( http://bit.ly/1Cf975C )
06:12 adlai it'd be nice to compare those graphs between the dead (samecoin?) and dying (gonero?)
06:23 fluffypony lol gonero, haven't heard that one before
06:25 punkman 70% down since I sold all my xmr, good call
06:26 punkman fluffypony: anything going on in the secret monero research labs?
06:26 fluffypony punkman: we had a mini conference when I was in the USA
06:26 fluffypony lots of interesting stuff on the boil
06:27 fluffypony I wrote about the three main things we bounced around a couple of Missives ago
06:28 adlai gonero, noun: early 21st century: via late Latin from Greek gonorrhoia, from γονος ‘semen’ + ροια ‘flux.’
06:30 punkman http://www.truthcoin.info/images/sidechains.png < lol did he just photoshop electrum img
06:30 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1CfevWp )
06:31 punkman err, blockstream
06:32 punkman "altcoins are a lie, here's my altcoin"
06:40 adlai sidechains aren't an altcoin, they're just a way to burn bitcoin faster
06:42 adlai on-sidechain bitcoin can't be accepted in place of on-homechain bitcoin without a significant amount of sufficiently advanced technology... although I guess at some point people will start building it
06:43 adlai truthcoin is a terrible name for his project, it sounds like a coin for 9/11 truthers
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07:06 mircea_popescu !up Ginux_
07:06 mircea_popescu !up saifedean
07:07 mircea_popescu is gonero based on proof of fucks ?
07:07 saifedean good day everyone
07:07 mircea_popescu hey there.
07:08 mircea_popescu i made myself lamb wellington in your honor.
07:08 saifedean well done! how did it come out?
07:08 mircea_popescu splendid.
07:09 mircea_popescu (local lout came up with "o, this is basically liver calzone, except the dough's crumblier". the ignorance i have to put up with!(
07:10 saifedean serves you right for ruining a perfectly good bit of lamb with sacrilegious dough!
07:10 mircea_popescu the dough is integral. it makes the meat softbake in steam.
07:11 mircea_popescu it's like, steambaked tenderlon.
07:11 saifedean yes, but with good grilling techniques, you don't need the dough... you're in argentina, get someone to build you a proper chulengo
07:11 saifedean then you can grill on low heat coals and close the lid
07:12 mircea_popescu what, an airtight chulengo ?
07:12 mircea_popescu pressure matters.
07:13 saifedean we need to have a proper grilling discussion over fire... possible in the next 2 months if i manage to swing by BA
07:13 mircea_popescu asciilifeform: qntra << lol, it's almost at the level of my own obscure site now. << actually, alexa thinks it's bigger. http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/qntra.net http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/loper-os.org for what (very little) that's worth.
07:13 assbot qntra.net Site Overview ... ( http://bit.ly/1Cfrg34 )
07:13 assbot loper-os.org Site Overview ... ( http://bit.ly/1CfriYR )
07:13 mircea_popescu baking != grilling
07:13 mircea_popescu !up Mantrid
07:14 saifedean baking is grilling for women :D
07:14 mircea_popescu indeed.
07:14 saifedean so you folks were discussing Isis and I tried to chime in but it wasn't working...
07:14 saifedean internet troubles
07:15 mircea_popescu not "internet troubles".
07:15 mircea_popescu some derp was in here ddosing noobs.
07:15 mircea_popescu told you to get a cloak like 5x. this'd be the sort of reason why.
07:15 saifedean i tried getting a cloak, but it doesnt work from webchat. I downloaded two irc clients, but neither of them really works for whatever reason
07:16 mircea_popescu lol the blessings of technology
07:16 mircea_popescu anyway, it should work from webchat just as well, provided you've registered the name.
07:17 saifedean I did register the name but the folks at freenode kept telling me a cloak wont work from webchat...
07:17 mircea_popescu ah well then they proll know best ?
07:17 saifedean my theory of isis is that they're better understood not as islamic fundamentalists, but as a byproduct of a socialist regime and diversity
07:18 saifedean anywhere socialism goes, it spreads destruction and death... but when it goes to places with significant population diversity, it must also start civil wars
07:18 mircea_popescu hm
07:19 saifedean for all the scaremongering about the evils of isis, they are still a tiny little sliver of what the glorious socialist regime of syria has achieved
07:19 mircea_popescu to me it just looks like normal nationbuilding. same shit that happened in yugoslavia. same shit really that happened in every nation, except the westerners were quicker with it.
07:19 saifedean wherein socialism was nation-destruction...
07:20 mircea_popescu i dunno. the larger parts of isis are not actually nationally represented in the extant european-sponsored map of the region.
07:20 saifedean well, empires and city-states were a much better workable model for everyone, westerners and occidentals,
07:21 mircea_popescu no kurdish state, for instance.
07:21 saifedean then the british decided to rule the world and found that spreading socialism and democracy is the ideal way to do so... first, give foreigners glorious revolution, then rule over the rubble
07:22 saifedean if you folks haven't, you must check out the work of Antony Sutton, particularly about the Bolshevik Revolution
07:22 mircea_popescu i think the pernicious influence of british "ideas" is well understood here lol.
07:22 saifedean this is the 'Bruce Willis was dead all along" a-ha moment of twentieth century history. The Bolsheviks simply worked for the British and American banks, to bring down the Romanovs and destroy Russia
07:23 saifedean full book available here: http://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Sutton_Wall_Street_and_the_bolshevik_revolution-5.pdf
07:23 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1uGw0or )
07:23 saifedean And here's an interview with the author: www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD_cJXOjYl8
07:25 saifedean the twentieth century was the century of spreading this model worldwide, burning all other human civilizations with the fatal acid of socialism, destroying their culture, society, religion and traditions, and then bringing in modern liberal democracy and its fiat central banks and IMF membership
07:25 mircea_popescu teh cult of teh useful idiot.
07:28 adlai http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-11-2014#935678 << since when does "more popular [among http clients]" imply "[above] the level of"?
07:28 assbot Logged on 26-11-2014 12:13:23; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: qntra << lol, it's almost at the level of my own obscure site now. << actually, alexa thinks it's bigger. http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/qntra.net http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/loper-os.org for what (very little) that's worth.
07:28 saifedean absolutely, this is the century of the useful idiots, and there are no idiots more useful than the socialist scum that has destroyed the world
07:28 mircea_popescu adlai i wasn't being serious eh.
07:28 saifedean how else could china turn into the west's dirty workshop, but through first burning its society with socialism
07:29 mircea_popescu saifedean the world doesn't seem to have been putting up that much of a fight, mind.
07:29 saifedean well, the tragedy is that the people who think they are putting up the fight are in fact the first line of attack of the enemies they imagine
07:30 adlai mircea_popescu: well then, time to get serious, and demand of your personal media megaphone that it host denser content than mere snarky commentary :)
07:30 saifedean fucking Hugo Chavez was selling his bonds to Goldman Sachs and Trotsky was getting paid by NY's bankers to launch revolution
07:30 mircea_popescu but i like snarky commentary!
07:31 nubbins` so buy a mad magazine
07:32 mircea_popescu Speaking of Yazidi women captured by ISIS, Nazand Begikhani said, "These women have been treated like cattle... They have been subjected to physical and sexual violence, including systematic rape and sex slavery. They've been exposed in markets in Mosul and in Raqqa, Syria, carrying price tags."
07:33 mircea_popescu heh. i imagine the porn based on this will last forever.
07:33 adlai speaking of personal media megaphones, something quite interesting is happening in israel
07:34 mircea_popescu i wonder how much 19yo prime (1.80, 80/60/80 or better) goes for in raqqa.
07:34 * adlai is trying to find a commentary on this issue written in english, rather than google translate of hebrew articles
07:34 nubbins` 1.80
07:35 nubbins` height in cm : weight in kg
07:35 nubbins` XD
07:35 mircea_popescu lol
07:35 mircea_popescu 1 meter 80 cm.
07:35 nubbins` but that'd put her at 100kg
07:35 nubbins` :D
07:36 mircea_popescu ... ?
07:36 adlai tl;dr: tycoon has a freely distributed "news"paper that gets handed out by the formerly homeless at bus and train stations... and now there's a bill passing through parliament to outlaw subscription-free distribution of newspapers
07:36 nubbins` at a 1.8:1 ratio
07:36 adlai it's a little subtler than that, but that's the general gist
07:36 nubbins` i kid. anyway
07:36 nubbins` i actually don't know my own height in meters
07:37 nubbins` nor my weight in kg
07:37 mircea_popescu adlai so what's the problem here ?
07:37 nubbins` such is the curse of the canadian, living under a system of conflicting measurement systems
07:37 nubbins` !up saifedean
07:37 nubbins` !up Ginux_
07:37 adlai here we go!
07:37 nubbins` !up bagels7
07:37 bagels7 uh thanks
07:38 adlai http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/.premium-1.626053
07:38 assbot Everything you need to know about the Israel Hayom (or anti-Sheldon Adelson) law - National Israel News | Haaretz ... ( http://bit.ly/1uGzwz4 )
07:38 nubbins` hey, no sweat
07:38 mircea_popescu nubbins` 1.80 is the 71 inches minimum height of a sexy woman.
07:38 nubbins` ah, 5'11"
07:38 mircea_popescu right.
07:38 bagels7 wow that must eleminate a lot
07:38 nubbins` it does
07:39 mircea_popescu 31 inches and a half hips and tits ; 23 inches and a half waistline.
07:39 nubbins` 'cept for dem amazons
07:39 mircea_popescu bagels7 kinda the point.
07:39 adlai mircea_popescu: freedom of "speech"... does this include the right to spend incredible wealth subsidizing propaganda rags that are killing the an already-dying business? (dead tree newspapers)
07:39 nubbins` where's that crumb illustration again?
07:39 mircea_popescu adlai in romania it was outlawed because littering.
07:39 nubbins` http://pigsarms.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/r-crumbs-ideal-woman.jpg
07:39 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1uGzMOI )
07:39 adlai adelson has been running this newspaper for over half a decade at a net loss, but he's rich enough to keep doing it indefinitely
07:40 nubbins` adlai dat paid article
07:40 adlai hmm it's not paywalled for me
07:40 saifedean anything that kills newspapers is good
07:40 nubbins` pastebin it
07:40 mircea_popescu nubbins` that's like the epitome of brutish lmao
07:40 nubbins` :D right?!
07:40 nubbins` the ideal woman should be able to demolish a brick wall of approx. 2 meter height, with bare hands
07:41 mircea_popescu course teh standards i espoused above are exactly opposite to this, so dunno what you're on about.
07:42 saifedean i don't find height to be important for women, she's not a ladder... what matters most is the hip-to-waist ration, followed by the size of the breasts and lips... the rest is details
07:43 nubbins` "she's not a ladder" lelelelelelel
07:44 adlai http://pastebin.com/JMvysU0G
07:44 assbot Israel Hayom Law - Pastebin.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1uGAY4E )
07:44 adlai no u gay
07:44 mircea_popescu saifedean if she's 1.80 or above she can wear heels so she can look you in the eye.
07:44 mircea_popescu this matters.
07:45 mircea_popescu (she can also fuck standing, but i repeat myself)
07:46 mircea_popescu and for that matter, what IS woman if not a ladder ?!
07:46 adlai http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-11-2014#935763 < I like that one, because it can be extended to all crap papers... any litterpaper is the responsibility of the entity that published the litter
07:46 assbot Logged on 26-11-2014 12:39:24; mircea_popescu: adlai in romania it was outlawed because littering.
07:47 saifedean i'd much rather a voluptuous shorty than a tall surfboard
07:47 mircea_popescu false dilemma.
07:47 mircea_popescu tall voluptuous was the standard.
07:48 saifedean what is the point of life if not for trade-offs!
07:48 adlai problem is, this law doesn't kill newspapers, it just adds a few legal hurdles which likely make it harder for "legitimate" actors but are easily avoided by the propaganda machine
07:48 saifedean which would you prioritize: height of voluptuousness?
07:48 mircea_popescu i don't prioritize. my tradeoff is like this : i trade off your tradeoff for no tradeoff.
07:49 adlai and the root problem is that literate monkeys just sponge up whatever they read
07:49 mircea_popescu what do you prioritize in cars, that the brakes don't work or that the engine doesn';t work ?
07:50 nubbins` broken engine is better
07:50 mircea_popescu adlai i find the pretense of the israeli middle class so amusing. AS IF they being exceptional, they'll manage to keep teh gawker.il at bay.
07:50 mircea_popescu nubbins` why ? good driver doesn't use the brakes.
07:50 nubbins` :o
07:51 adlai ... what pretense, of what middle class?
07:51 * adlai is not aware of either such thing existing
07:51 bagels7 I would rather not value myself by voluptuousness or temporal looks
07:51 mircea_popescu adlai the people that purport to make a law to prevent a rich guy from buying the government one bum at a time.
07:51 mircea_popescu bagels7 unless you meet the standard you may not discuss the standard.
07:52 adlai at least, not among the vast majority of my irl contacts. people seem pretty aware and accepting of / resigned to the system
07:52 mircea_popescu adlai so then what's that law suppost to do ?
07:53 bagels7 I am 183 cm but I don't have a vagina :p
07:54 mircea_popescu didja get 600 cc boob implants ?
07:54 fluffypony I thought everyone had one nowadays
07:54 fluffypony it's all the rage
07:54 adlai it's supposed to stop the continued indoctrination of the sponge-minded masses, because regulation always works perfectly the first time and never starts an arms race of circumvention
07:54 mircea_popescu fluffypony yeah but at one's fingertips
07:54 fluffypony ah
07:54 fluffypony :-P
07:54 mircea_popescu adlai hence "so amusing"
07:55 adlai such things are always more amusing when perceived from a safe distance...
07:56 mircea_popescu speaking of boobs, http://www.realself.com/forum/calling-500cc-600cc-girls
07:56 assbot calling all 500cc to 600cc girls... - Breast Implants forum ... ( http://bit.ly/1uGE2O9 )
07:56 mircea_popescu "decided to go in the middle and get 550cc high profile"
07:56 saifedean alright guys, it was fun but i have to go to lift and eat and do things with my life... do check out the Antony Sutton book I mentioned, you will not be disappointed!
07:56 mircea_popescu THAT is the middle nao. imagine, a century ago that middle was maybe... two per million ?
07:57 adlai who the fuck measures implants by volume
07:57 bagels7 [07:53] <+mircea_popescu> didja get 600 cc boob implants ? << No, it;s not in the plans
07:57 mircea_popescu adlai everyone ?
07:58 mircea_popescu how do you measure tits, by color ?
07:59 nubbins` HEH
07:59 adlai dunno, but that seems like it'd miss info
07:59 nubbins` "why would the doctors measure the volume of the liquids they're injecting?"
07:59 mircea_popescu well, they're basically "classic" and "high profile". you can prolly fill in.
07:59 adlai doctors ł everyone
07:59 mircea_popescu industrial process is industrial process, they're all the same shape.
07:59 adlai *≠
07:59 nubbins` dat elective surgery
08:00 nubbins` adlai how else would they describe the implants?
08:00 adlai "what electives are you taking this semester?" "surgery"
08:00 nubbins` heheh
08:00 nubbins` dicksurgery.ca is up for renewal
08:00 mircea_popescu http://www.simplybreastimplants.com/images/breast_augmentation_photos/breast_aug_revision42.jpg
08:00 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1uW2m3w )
08:00 mircea_popescu left is 300 right is 600
08:01 adlai if we're discussing the process itself, sure, talk about the delta. but if you're discussing the result, it seems more germane to discuss the result
08:02 mircea_popescu adlai you don't understand. there's some standard items involved.
08:02 mircea_popescu http://www.simplybreastimplants.com/breast_augmentation_photos/set42redo.html << earlier link.
08:02 assbot 600cc High Profile Silicone Breast Implant Photos | Breast Augmentation Redo Photos ... ( http://bit.ly/1uGFuQu )
08:02 nubbins` dat barbed wire tattoo
08:02 nubbins` dat obv line of work
08:03 adlai is it symbolic of the invisible fences keeping the customers close and the talent closer?
08:03 nubbins` dat heh
08:03 nubbins` i think it's symbolic of poor decision making skills
08:04 mircea_popescu lol
08:04 nubbins` http://www.simplybreastimplants.com/images/breast_augmentation_photos/Revis_revba42.jpg
08:04 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1uGFHDr )
08:04 nubbins` BEAUTIFUL
08:04 * nubbins` weeps
08:04 adlai the worst poor decisions are those made on your behalf before you're born
08:04 adlai equally, the best good decisions... are the ones made on your behalf before you're born :)
08:05 mircea_popescu nubbins` it's recent. they usually heal markless these days.
08:05 nubbins` the best good decisions are not the ones where you slice your tits open from the nipple downwards, stuff them full of window caulking, and sew em back up?
08:05 nubbins` ah
08:05 nubbins` well til
08:06 mircea_popescu big fucking deal, so woman gets to carry some scars.
08:07 nubbins` also, til fumed silica is produced by burning silicone
08:07 mircea_popescu imagine she got them in a war with her own ugliness, then they're just as respectable as w/e scars you might get fighting for isis.
08:07 bagels7 adlai: what do you know about pre birth?
08:07 nubbins` (fumed silica is a thixotropic agent used in printing inks, as well as toothpastes etc)
08:07 adlai bagels7: still trying to figure out what my face looked like
08:08 adlai !up bagels7
08:08 adlai ;;gettrust bagels7
08:08 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user Adlai to user bagels7: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=Adlai&dest=bagels7 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=bagels7 | Rated since: Tue Nov 11 00:46:41 2014
08:09 adlai interesting wot ratings there
08:09 nubbins` heh
08:09 nubbins` dpb bringing all the normals in
08:10 nubbins` bagels7 are you also going to snap your dick in half like xanthyos did?
08:10 bagels7 :he thinks I'm normal: lol, oh that was sarcasm, No I am not going to break my dick
08:11 nubbins` i don't think the other guy explicitly set out to do this either
08:11 adlai ;;google frankenpenis
08:11 gribble Frankenpenis (Video 1996) - IMDb: <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0140058/>; The Frankenpenis - The Frisky: <http://www.thefrisky.com/photos/the-top-10-most-amazing-penises/amazing-penis-g8-jpg/>; frankenpenis - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzQ2MI082MU>
08:11 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
08:11 nubbins` heh
08:12 nubbins` looks like assbot only selectively ignores gribs
08:12 adlai let's see
08:12 assbot Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2P7WYHE.txt )
08:12 adlai !b 5
08:12 assbot Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3WEZBMC.txt )
08:12 adlai !b 3
08:13 nubbins` i may replace the tubes in my exposure unit today
08:13 nubbins` finally tracked down a set of unfiltered blacklights
08:15 bagels7 Sooo many guys tell me to not get fake boobs. I don't have to feel bad!
08:15 nubbins` nobody *has* to feel bad. don't let that stop you.
08:20 bagels7 well I am pretty cute for someone that went physical through male puberty, too bad It shows I did drugs
08:28 nubbins` c'est la vie
08:31 bagels7 I believe in mara the demon that temps people with beautiful women due to real life experiences. The demon that leads people away from spiritual matters by distracting them with sex
08:33 nubbins` i believe i'm going to lay down some speedball acrylic white on these book covers
08:36 * bagels7 looks at the ashes fall on nubbins art as she passes him the fatty
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08:58 mircea_popescu <nubbins`> dpb bringing all the normals in << srsly.
08:58 nubbins` dread pirate barron
08:58 mircea_popescu bagels7 sex is a spiritual matter!
08:58 mircea_popescu !up hguux_
08:58 mircea_popescu !up ybit_
08:59 bagels7 Yeah, my job bothers me sometimes when people ask me for affection instead of something tyical
09:07 danielpbarron ;;later tell ben_vulpes I'm running bitcoind 0.7.2 on OpenBSD 5.5 as per BingoBoingo's instructions http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/05/02/building-bitcoin-0-7-2-on-openbsd/ -- it took several weeks to get my data up-to-date, and it frequently crashes
09:07 assbot Building Bitcoin 0.7.2 on OpenBSD | Bingo Blog ... ( http://bit.ly/1yX0E13 )
09:07 gribble The operation succeeded.
09:16 * bagels7 will do anything legal and ethiacl for bitcoins
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10:08 bagels7 "nice people" here: http://pastebin.com/w5g52cTa
10:08 assbot mandycandy - Pastebin.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1vNzUD8 )
10:08 bagels7 nice people like those black people kept telling who ended up robbing me
10:09 TomServo ;;later tell ben_vulpes I just recently started down a path similar to danielpbarron's, though I'm on 5.6. Only to block 216000 something so far, and also - frequently crashes.
10:09 gribble The operation succeeded.
10:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30150 @ 0.00040277 = 12.1435 BTC [-] {2}
10:11 bagels7 [09:37] <mandycandy> you have chosen this path, now face the consequences :) for your own good, do not step into #bitcoin-assets again because you do not know what some participants are involved in <<<< some hacker, with the patience of a two year old
10:18 mircea_popescu lol
10:18 mircea_popescu ayup
10:19 mircea_popescu funny how the "for your own protection" verbiage appeals to a particular sort of derp.
10:21 bagels7 when I go downtown I basically risk being stabbed or once i got robbed by this woman and 15 black guys, 97.6% of the times i was robbed was by black people. can I be racist now
10:22 bagels7 half the time was from "friends", is that what i get for being a whitey
10:32 Azelphur bagels7: I've always said there's a difference between racism and statistics, people have so much trouble differentiating
10:33 Azelphur Racism: All black people are thieves, Not racism: 97.6% of the times I was robbed was by black people (Assuming it's an accurate statistic, which it isn't)
10:35 bagels7 hundred dollars here and there, one time my whole rent... yeah it's more like 2/18
10:35 nubbins` two eighteenths of the time?
10:36 bagels7 i got my phone stolen twice by crackheads
10:37 Azelphur bagels7: heard of Cerberus? :P
10:37 Azelphur It'd be so funny if a crackhead stole my phone in UK
10:37 bagels7 no i have not
10:37 mircea_popescu for the 97.6% statistic you need 125 attempts and 122 successes
10:37 mircea_popescu somehow i doubt you got robbed 122 times.
10:37 Azelphur mircea_popescu: now now, maybe he lives in detroit.
10:38 Azelphur bagels7: if you have an android device and root it, it'll embed itself inside the firmware and let you track the phone
10:38 mircea_popescu even so. most people live their entire lives without fucking 100 times. let alone being mugged for crying out loud.
10:38 bagels7 well if I count all the times i got ripped off buying drugs...
10:38 Azelphur so if a thief does the normal thing of replacing the SIM card and factory resetting, then turns it back on again...you can still track it :)
10:39 mircea_popescu Azelphur so you know when to run ? "dude that stole my phone is around the corner gtg bye" ?
10:39 Azelphur haha
10:39 Azelphur mircea_popescu: I'm British remember, our police don't suck.
10:40 bagels7 azelphur: thanks for the rooting advice if I ever get an android
10:40 Azelphur yw
10:40 punkman Azelphur: and what if it shows up in Poland
10:41 Azelphur punkman: then you proceed to mess with it to annoy the person that stole your phone.
10:41 bagels7 but I doubt I will be falling asleep on some guys mattress while he brings a girl over and she robs me the 5 minutes he is gone. I had my phone beside me waiting for a call
10:42 danielpbarron you mean to annoy the patsy that bought your phone from the guy who stole it
10:43 bagels7 a lot of the hoodrats downtown are assoiated so they probably know each other on some personal level
10:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54600 @ 0.00040216 = 21.9579 BTC [-] {2}
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11:19 kakobrekla and it frequently crashes < memory leak?
11:21 BingoBoingo http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/two-fbi-agents-shot-wounded-in-st-louis-county-while/article_65b73d94-ae93-587d-822c-aed812515003.html
11:21 assbot Two FBI agents shot, wounded in St. Louis County while searching for fugitive : News ... ( http://bit.ly/11uQNEL )
11:21 BingoBoingo http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/tear-gas-used-after-protesters-burn-police-car-break-windows/article_4e930309-b1b5-581d-85ed-04cd0a8f7921.html
11:21 assbot Tear gas used after protesters burn police car, break windows at Ferguson city hall; 45 arrested : News ... ( http://bit.ly/11uQQQX )
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11:41 TomServo kakobrekla: I think so. std::bad_alloc == memory leak?
11:42 TomServo Also, many thanks for assbot's URL shortener.
11:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2313 @ 0.001243 = 2.8751 BTC [-]
11:54 mats_cd03 ;;ticker
11:54 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 373.79, Best ask: 374.62, Bid-ask spread: 0.83000, Last trade: 373.79, 24 hour volume: 11560.64745239, 24 hour low: 367.4, 24 hour high: 381.85, 24 hour vwap: 374.5673137
12:01 ben_vulpes danielpbarron, TomServo: thanks
12:05 kakobrekla !up ghtyujh
12:05 kakobrekla hi
12:06 ben_vulpes mornin
12:20 nubbins` FINALLY finished these covers
12:26 BingoBoingo !up ratpoison
12:27 BingoBoingo Hello ratpoison, is your nick in honor of the excellet window manager of the same name?
12:27 nubbins` http://imgur.com/F3ogQr1
12:27 assbot imgur: the simple image sharer ... ( http://bit.ly/1y1ObMA )
12:27 nubbins` the metallic inks are difficult to photograph in a way that does them justice, but this is as good an approximation as i can get with a phone camera
12:28 nubbins` 10 layers of ink
12:34 BingoBoingo http://qntra.net/2014/11/mtgox-trustee-moves-to-repay-creditors-work-with-kraken/
12:34 assbot MtGox Trustee Moves to Repay Creditors, Work With Kraken | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1y1PF9x )
12:36 BingoBoingo !up 18VABNRS9
12:37 nubbins` http://imgur.com/QQXnGsR
12:37 assbot imgur: the simple image sharer ... ( http://bit.ly/1y1QfUN )
12:37 BingoBoingo Hello 18VABNRS9 is that a radio call sign?
12:37 nubbins` call signs here follow the format V01xx
12:37 nubbins` not too many hams
12:39 BingoBoingo You never know for sure.
12:40 nubbins` not too many licensed ones, anyway
12:40 nubbins` less than 100 if the vanity plates are any indication
12:45 BingoBoingo Vanity plates are probably a poor indicator
12:53 BingoBoingo http://www.zdnet.com/senator-tom-coburn-agrees-that-bitcoin-is-not-legal-currency-7000036169/
12:53 assbot Senator Tom Coburn agrees that Bitcoin is not legal currency | ZDNet ... ( http://bit.ly/1y1TTxU )
13:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2150 @ 0.00124103 = 2.6682 BTC [-] {3}
13:09 xanthyos <gribble> Sent 10 hours ago: <ben_vulpes> until you share those photos you're a goddamn scammer << i haven't asked for any money. the pictures are aplenty on my twitter account. you need +3 trust in my L1 to read my tweets
13:10 BingoBoingo lol ben_vulpes isn't in xanthyos dick pic WoT
13:11 xanthyos oh +2 apparently has it too
13:11 xanthyos it's a reasonable goal to which he can aspire
13:12 BingoBoingo ;;gettrust ben_vulpes danielpbarron
13:12 gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask danielpbarron!~dpb@71.232.150.212. Trust relationship from user ben_vulpes to user danielpbarron: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 4 via 4 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=ben_vulpes&dest=danielpbarron | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=danielpbarron | Rated since: Thu Mar 21 17:26:04 2013
13:13 BingoBoingo Well ben_vulpes trusts danielpbarron, maybe he does so in a way that allows him to believe danielpbarron's testimony that the pictures exist.
13:14 xanthyos i showed the G rated pics of me in a hospital bed
13:14 xanthyos isn't that enough?
13:14 BingoBoingo Maybe ben_vulpes is just into the gore of it?
13:15 davout xanthyos: so, how's your cock doing
13:15 xanthyos i stopped taking the pain meds so i could end a week-long constipation
13:15 xanthyos just took one now after 2 days in agony
13:16 xanthyos the pain means the nerves aren't damaged
13:17 xanthyos it'd be more worrying if i felt numbness
13:19 davout that makes sense
13:20 BingoBoingo And people think pain is a bad thing.
13:21 xanthyos it does impede my functionality
13:22 davout pain is painful
13:30 jurov !up hiddosme
13:30 jurov !up ratpoison
13:42 BingoBoingo http://qntra.net/2014/11/ken-hess-bitcoin-illegal-tom-coburn-maybe-for-congress/
13:42 assbot Ken Hess: Bitcoin Illegal, Tom Coburn: Maybe for Congress? | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1zYnSVz )
13:45 BingoBoingo https://twitter.com/BBoingo/status/537678524166201344
13:45 assbot ZDNet's /kenhess /hashtag/Bitcoin?src=hash Illegal! Tom Coburn: Maybe for Congress? http://t.co/cJJlL6UgQX
13:51 BingoBoingo lol Bitcoin Magazine https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2nhafk/bitcoin_magazine_going_to_shut_down/
13:51 assbot Bitcoin Magazine going to shut down? : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1zYp4s2 )
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14:36 ben_vulpes xanthyos: aww i'm just trolling
14:36 ben_vulpes you'll note the absence of an actual negrating :p
14:39 * BingoBoingo remembers ben_vulpes flapping his hands over the matter
14:40 xanthyos ben_vulpes: do i get a positive rating for a post-op pic with stitches around the glans
14:41 xanthyos or a pre-op pic of a bent deformed shaft
14:41 xanthyos or btc? i'll sign a contract
14:41 mats_cd03 yes you can have a +1
14:41 xanthyos if you really want to see you can give me an incentive
14:42 xanthyos i'll do a webcam show with the bandaid and gauze off for .1
14:43 mats_cd03 show me the dong
14:43 xanthyos make an offer
14:43 mats_cd03 i already did
14:44 xanthyos ratings are reversible, i'll take btc though
14:44 mats_cd03 nope
14:44 danielpbarron ;;sell 1 "image of broken penis" at 0.1 BTC
14:44 gribble Order id 21699 created.
14:44 xanthyos .1 is for a live webcam show
14:44 xanthyos a jpg link is much less
14:45 ben_vulpes xanthyos: i'll rate you +1 for a year for that picture
14:46 xanthyos regardless of any emotional outburst that might make you want to retract your rating?
14:46 xanthyos i don't know if i should accept those terms as a picture will not increase the amount of trust you should have for me
14:46 danielpbarron make sure to use the deedbot for this contract
14:47 ben_vulpes actually upon consideration this is an abuse of the rating system.
14:47 xanthyos rate me up because you know i'm a genuine guy who wears his heart on his sleeve
14:47 xanthyos but if you want the pic it's better to settle in btc
14:47 ben_vulpes ;;rate xanthyos 1 genuine guy who wears his heart on his sleeve
14:47 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user xanthyos has been recorded.
14:48 xanthyos heh
14:48 xanthyos climbing the social ladder
14:48 xanthyos thanks
14:48 ben_vulpes ;;gettrust xanthyos assbot
14:48 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user xanthyos to user assbot: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=xanthyos&dest=assbot | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=assbot | Rated since: Fri Apr 11 02:04:55 2014
14:48 ben_vulpes eh what does it cost me
14:49 xanthyos why does it say i'm not authenticated?
14:49 ben_vulpes ;;ident xanthyos
14:49 gribble Nick 'xanthyos', with hostmask 'xanthyos!xanthyos@silenceisdefeat.com', is identified as user 'xanthyos', with GPG key id DF074A8E1242692B, key fingerprint AF3F0A9DD77A3B76411A95DBDF074A8E1242692B, and bitcoin address None
14:50 ben_vulpes ;;ident assbot
14:50 gribble Nick 'assbot', with hostmask 'assbot!~assbot@unaffiliated/kakobrekla/bot/assbot', is not identified.
14:50 xanthyos oh
14:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31975 @ 0.00039584 = 12.657 BTC [-] {2}
14:51 jurov ben_vulpes: best make him write hex string on the dick and give him 0.1btc for the trouble :)
14:52 xanthyos i'm seeing the urologist in a week. wonder what he'd comment if i had hex sharpied on it
14:53 jurov you're considered psychically insane anyway, why not have a little fun?
14:53 ben_vulpes 7714ad25
14:53 ben_vulpes i've reconsidered, and am not buying buttcoins
14:54 xanthyos if i write 7714ad25 along the side of my penis and take a picture that shows the numbers and the stitches you'l send me .1?
14:54 * jurov cackles
14:55 mircea_popescu <BingoBoingo> Hello ratpoison, is your nick in honor of the excellet window manager of the same name? << it's the andi-flood noobs pill kako made
14:56 mircea_popescu <assbot> Senator Tom Coburn << eh ?!
14:57 asciilifeform it's the andi-flood noobs pill << before long, we'll be hooking up elizas to mask decoys from the enemy. and then folks will start... talking to them
14:58 mircea_popescu asciilifeform that that'll be lulzy.
14:58 BingoBoingo http://drgrumpyinthehouse.blogspot.com/2014/11/tuesday-afternoon.html
14:58 assbot Doctor Grumpy in the House: Tuesday afternoon ... ( http://bit.ly/1xHdoXp )
14:59 punkman BingoBoingo: who the fuck is this ken hess character
15:00 BingoBoingo punkman: Columnist for ZDNet, normally writes on Virtualization and windows Sysadmin
15:00 mircea_popescu ;;rate Ken Hess -1 too stupid to understand what his questions mean.
15:00 gribble Error: 'Hess' is not a valid integer.
15:00 punkman did bitcoin kill his cat or something
15:01 mircea_popescu no, but it bothered his employer.
15:01 mircea_popescu and all through 2015 we will be seeing a shitton of 50-somethings with so-so credentrials going all weirdo on bitcoin.
15:02 mircea_popescu the perfect age to be stupid re what things are, whatthey mean and what to trust. locklin's their model.
15:02 xanthyos shrodinger's cat was killed by double-spent btc
15:03 TomServo From Hess' bio on zdnet: His first computer was a Commodore VIC-20, which he purchased because William Shatner was in the commercials.
15:04 mircea_popescu who's william shatner ?
15:04 TomServo heh, first enterprise captain?
15:04 mircea_popescu ugh.
15:05 xanthyos commodore vic 20 came out in 1980, so it was between the motion picture and the wrath of khan. shatner was a big deal.
15:05 mircea_popescu well i guess if you're 15 in the 70s it's a reasonable reason to be buying z80s
15:06 xanthyos <+TomServo> heh, first enterprise captain? << first enterprise captain was jonathan archer
15:07 TomServo Sorry, I should've said James T Kirk.
15:07 mircea_popescu http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Hess << a better ken hess ?
15:07 assbot Kenneth Hess - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1rlMmbE )
15:08 mircea_popescu aww seems so. dude the curse of #b-a. "say something stupid in some trade rag, they'll find a... better you ?"
15:09 punkman sold 2 million copies of family tree software before 1995, love it
15:09 BingoBoingo Seriously. ZDNet Ken Hess is unworthy of Wikipedia Ken HEss
15:09 mircea_popescu anyway, i'm a great fan of coburn, because
15:10 mircea_popescu ;;google site:trilema.com tom coburn
15:10 gribble No matches found.
15:10 asciilifeform 'We can rebuild him. We have the technology. We can make him better than he was. Better...stronger...faster.' - 'the six million dollar man'
15:10 mircea_popescu eh get fucked google!
15:10 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2010/politica-adevarata/
15:10 assbot Politica adevarata pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1xHgKK2 )
15:11 mircea_popescu !up heath
15:12 mircea_popescu "Barbie apparently fails as a computer engineer as Mattel removes 'Barbie: I can be a Computer Engineer' book from all sales outlets."
15:12 mircea_popescu clearly, it's because sexism in the industry o.O
15:13 ben_vulpes i always suspected: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_of_dimensionality
15:13 assbot Curse of dimensionality - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1xHhT4u )
15:14 mircea_popescu i don't get it ? sparsity due to high volumetric exponent ? wtf ?
15:16 ben_vulpes space typically grows faster than data?
15:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1029 @ 0.00099992 = 1.0289 BTC [+] {6}
15:17 ben_vulpes bayesian rocket guys were always going on about needing MOAR DATA
15:17 kakobrekla !up heath
15:17 mircea_popescu i dun get what you mean.
15:18 mircea_popescu and yes, one of the many different reasons bayesianism is little more than "a cult of ai without moon or minsky aka stupid"
15:21 mircea_popescu asciilifeform incidentally, i think i may have made a breakthrough here. your idea of a "program that fits in head" and my displeasure at the backwards way linux has been going have a common spot.
15:22 mircea_popescu "when in doubt, dike it out". this is the golden rule of all computer programming. logically, interfering with it is then evil.
15:22 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: dike it out ?
15:22 mircea_popescu you know, cut it out
15:22 mircea_popescu like with a wire clipper.
15:23 mircea_popescu so, if an absolute guarantee can be offered that any portion can be cut off, this probably satisfies both of us.
15:23 mircea_popescu the problem is that in any current shitstack, if you cut ANYTHING out it "stops working".
15:23 mircea_popescu ie, altogether.
15:23 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: http://electronicdesign.com/boards/whats-all-muntzing-stuff-anyhow
15:23 assbot What's All This Muntzing Stuff, Anyhow? | Boards content from Electronic Design ... ( http://bit.ly/1xHkAD6 )
15:23 mircea_popescu stuff that does that will never fit in any head, much like bridge pillars don't fit in any cunt.
15:24 asciilifeform it has a name!
15:24 mircea_popescu ha!
15:24 mircea_popescu the benefits of ignorance, i get to feel nine years old again :D
15:24 asciilifeform i learned of the man from locklin, incidentally
15:24 asciilifeform went most of my life 'muntzing' without knowing it had any name.
15:25 mircea_popescu anyway. yes. muntzing is the correct debugging approach.
15:25 mircea_popescu any software/stack/platform/anything interfering with this is evil, for that reason.
15:26 mircea_popescu hm.
15:26 asciilifeform though i must say, a correctly-designed system (minimal) is likewise unmuntzable.
15:26 mircea_popescu nah, this doesn't actually work. i recall this guy, the salesman dude. this isn't what's happening here.
15:27 asciilifeform in that removal of anything whatsoever - kills.
15:27 mircea_popescu he's an early exponent of the "80% of service with 20% of cost and try for 50% of price" thing,
15:27 mircea_popescu which i decried as the evil that it is earlier.
15:27 asciilifeform but one could argue that it should be readily apparent why kills.
15:28 asciilifeform i'm no great fan of what he did. but the basic act (if not the result) deserves remembering.
15:28 mircea_popescu anyway, i won't call this muntzing, but i will say that if i cut off include stdio.h from a program i expect it to a) compile and b) function ; without stdoutput.
15:30 mircea_popescu The story around the industry was that he would wander around to an engineer's workbench and ask, "How's your new circuit coming?"
15:30 mircea_popescu After a short discussion, Earl would say, "But, you seem to be over-engineering this - I don't think you need this capacitor." He would reach out with his handy nippers (insulated) that he always carried in his shirt-pocket, and snip out the capacitor in question.
15:30 mircea_popescu Well, doggone, the picture was still there! Then he would study the schematic some more, and SNIP... SNIP... SNIP. Muntz had made a good guess of how to simplify and cheapen the circuit. Then, usually, he would make one SNIP too many, and the picture or the sound would stop working. He would concede to the designer, "Well, I guess you have to put that last part back in,"
15:30 mircea_popescu ok, ok, maybe it's what it should be called.
15:31 ben_vulpes ./muntz.sh bitcoin
15:31 mircea_popescu ./muntz.sh the entire motherfucking world
15:31 ben_vulpes but what is our "picture"?
15:31 asciilifeform 'Every program has at least one bug and can be shortened by at least one instruction — from which, by induction, it is evident that every program can be reduced to one instruction that does not work.'
15:32 mircea_popescu this thing goes extremely deep, because honestly, what i don't like about i dunno, take your pick ? thins.
15:32 mircea_popescu asciilifeform the part where it concludes "but it shouldn't" is under dispute here.
15:32 mircea_popescu if it can, it should.
15:33 asciilifeform variant on the ancient 'things should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler'
15:33 mircea_popescu i guess i'm going to take a moment to pangloss all over myself, because imagine this! we live in the best world possible : just as the muntzing of the world is necessary, the collapse of the political is unavoidable.
15:33 mircea_popescu praise be
15:33 mircea_popescu hey, who's our cult worshipping ?
15:34 asciilifeform !s our god
15:34 assbot 13 results for 'our god' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=our+god
15:34 mircea_popescu praise obama!
15:34 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-11-2014#922406
15:34 assbot Logged on 14-11-2014 22:31:04; mircea_popescu: can this be like, our god ?
15:34 asciilifeform >>> http://worth1000.s3.amazonaws.com/submissions/183500/183879_8c00_625x1000.jpg
15:34 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1xHnHe7 )
15:34 ben_vulpes eris!
15:34 mircea_popescu hey, we could have a mentally inept sorta-black community organiser with a bunch of fake achievements and awards as a god can't we ?
15:34 mircea_popescu i say we worship hussein barrack obama.
15:34 ben_vulpes hail obama
15:34 ben_vulpes heil obama
15:35 mircea_popescu b-a worship is best worship.
15:35 asciilifeform Барак Хусейнович
15:35 mircea_popescu awww missed the huyportunity ?!
15:35 asciilifeform candidate for 'order of red star'
15:36 mircea_popescu Барак Хуйсейнович
15:36 asciilifeform l0l
15:36 mircea_popescu see ? much better.
15:37 mircea_popescu in romanian, "barack fiu pulii"
15:37 mircea_popescu "barack fiu' pulii"*
15:37 mircea_popescu (which is a very common deprecatory, calling someone "the son of cock" is like saying he'll be inheriting the kingdom of heaven)
15:37 ben_vulpes i have officially been on hold with the irs for an hour to get a number necessary to open their payment backend
15:38 mircea_popescu give yourself a deduction for the phone charge ?
15:38 ben_vulpes i'm amused at the every 2 minute "all of our representatives are on the line with other customers" spiel
15:38 ben_vulpes CUSTOMERS?!
15:38 mircea_popescu hahaha
15:39 mircea_popescu well... you do bring custom...
15:39 ben_vulpes implying i'm actually buying anything
15:39 ben_vulpes implying i have a choice in provider
15:39 ben_vulpes implying i could *not* buy the thing in question, whatever it is
15:39 mircea_popescu that's not what custom implies.
15:39 mircea_popescu it just implies you're bringing in teh dough.
15:39 * ben_vulpes is milchow
15:40 mircea_popescu ;;ud milchow
15:40 gribble Google found nothing.
15:40 assbot Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0E0J4EA.txt )
15:40 ben_vulpes !b 2
15:40 ben_vulpes ;;ud google
15:40 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Google | Google. The holy mother of all search engines. Is the most efficient, and reliable search engines. Can generate a few million results within a fraction of a second.
15:40 ben_vulpes ;;ud bitcoin
15:40 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bitcoin | bitcoin. A crypto-currency allowing for anonymous transactions and using a decentralized architecture. Go Nanotube! Nanotube was able to purchase many  ...
15:41 mircea_popescu wow srsly ? nanotube ?
15:42 mircea_popescu lol cusipzzz
15:42 mircea_popescu ;;seen cusipzzz
15:42 gribble I have not seen cusipzzz.
15:42 mircea_popescu orly ? so long long ago!
15:43 mircea_popescu Apr 05 22:50:39 {Cusipzzz} i, for one, welcome our stable bitcoin overlords << from the logs ben_vulpes never saw
15:43 * ben_vulpes ponders his first arrival date
15:44 ben_vulpes log search doesn't go past some 5000 responses
15:44 ben_vulpes i don't think i was persistently logging when i first showed up either
15:45 Apocalyptic mircea_popescu, cusipzzz is still in -otc
15:46 mircea_popescu cool!
15:47 * mircea_popescu goes to read 2011 pms about his "new thing" at the time.
15:49 mod6 :]
15:55 cazalla http://qntra.net/2014/11/bitcoin-com-au-update/
15:55 assbot Bitcoin.com.au Update | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1xHsFYl )
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16:27 ben_vulpes http://asshat.shithouse.tv/
16:27 assbot asshat ... ( http://bit.ly/1tjX11E )
16:38 thestringpuller !t m s.mpoe
16:38 assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00038988 / 0.00040207 / 0.0004188 (599574 shares, 241.08 BTC), 7D: 0.00038988 / 0.00043724 / 0.00050762 (8080579 shares, 3,533.22 BTC), 30D: 0.00036402 / 0.00056334 / 0.00086038 (23806032 shares, 13,411.01 BTC)
16:39 thestringpuller !l m s.mpoe
16:39 assbot Last trade for S.MPOE on MPEX was at 0.00039584 BTC [-]
16:50 mod6 $vwap s.mpoe
16:50 empyex mod6: S.MPOE 1 day: average: 0.00040208 high: 0.0004188 low: 0.00038988 volume: 599574 btc: 241.07533232 7 day: average: 0.00043725 high: 0.00050762 low: 0.00038988 volume: 8080579 btc: 3533.21532115 30 day: average: 0.00056296 high: 0.00086038 low: 0.00036402 volume: 23759737 btc: 13375.76738948
16:52 mod6 this one must be behind a bit.
16:53 mod6 it's behind on 30d by: 46`295 on vol & 36 btc
16:54 mod6 or thereabouts
16:56 mod6 maybe it just calcs that once every 24 hours or something.
16:56 mod6 *shrug*
17:00 asciilifeform http://cryptome.org/2014/11/nsa-ttp-2014.pdf << usg loves software patents; sells licenses!
17:01 asciilifeform 'Federal technology transfer exists, in part, to provide a return on investment for tax payers.' << lol
17:02 mircea_popescu this munzer story is quite sad if you look at it.
17:02 mircea_popescu back in the 60s, even clowns in napoleon costumes were accomplished engineers.
17:02 mircea_popescu fast forward 50 years later, even the president is a pretentiously dressed-up monkey.
17:02 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: what he did was snip out most of the amp. at the time, most tv owners lived in or very near cities, with powerful transmitters. hence - worked. mostly.
17:03 mircea_popescu yeah i know
17:03 asciilifeform whether this counts as 'engineering' - matter of taste.
17:04 cazalla so.. banned from twitter for sending "violent threats" of which i did not do lol, and people wonder why others stick to irc
17:08 mircea_popescu cazalla lol wut ?
17:09 thestringpuller it's all fun and games until you threaten someone!
17:09 mircea_popescu hey, the libtards want to make a mockery of rape, murder and everything else, i'm more than happy to oblige.
17:10 mircea_popescu which is why whenever anyone asks me, i killed andreas whatshisname. got the link to prove it too.
17:10 mircea_popescu honestly, being an internet-convicted murderer isn't really all that bad. kinda fun.
17:11 mircea_popescu maybe it should be a rule, "you can't run with the cool kids until you e-murder someone"
17:21 BingoBoingo !up Omeo_
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17:47 ben_vulpes syn
17:47 BingoBoingo ack
17:47 ben_vulpes !up cascadian_derper
17:47 cascadian_derper ack
17:47 ben_vulpes hm.
17:48 cascadian_derper why u no sasl
17:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21000 @ 0.00039508 = 8.2967 BTC [-]
17:57 jurov RST
17:58 mircea_popescu onoes jurov is in your tubes rsting your sockets
18:01 jurov http://freepdfhosting.com/0d53fc3f43.pdf
18:01 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1xU5T3m )
18:01 jurov ^ slaughter violated suff by selling securities
18:03 jurov lol they even explain how virtual currencies are risky for transacting business
18:03 cazalla mandycandy = fivezerotwo and is trans? lol
18:04 jurov 1. virtual currencies are not backed by a central bank and are not insured
18:04 jurov 2. virtual currencies can be hacked or stolen with little or no recourse;
18:04 jurov 3. there is no way to reverse a virtual currency transaction
18:04 jurov and it gets only better after that
18:05 BingoBoingo https://twitter.com/RusEmbassyUAE/status/537682306404589568
18:05 assbot /hashtag/US?src=hash demonstrates sham care for protesters in other countries but uses force at home http://t.co/77HsUgI2lt /hashtag/Ferguson?src=hash http://t.co/PlZ1gGptjA
18:07 jurov (oh it's 5 months old, sorry)
18:08 BingoBoingo jurov: Sure it is, but always interesting to see these things again
18:09 BingoBoingo http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/11/26/us-usa-missouri-shooting-gasstation-idUSKCN0JA1XF20141126
18:09 assbot In Ferguson, black residents stand guard at white-owned store| Reuters ... ( http://bit.ly/11vzzqF )
18:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40478 @ 0.00039651 = 16.0499 BTC [+] {2}
18:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2972 @ 0.00040098 = 1.1917 BTC [+]
18:20 mircea_popescu jurov lolk ?
18:25 xanthyos ;;rate thomas_d -10 abuser in all ways and betrayer do not trust and xanthyos dont' let yourself be decieved again
18:25 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating for user thomas_d has changed from 1 to -10.
18:26 cazalla xanthyos, dick pics leaked? i'm not done with logs yet so feel free to tell me now
18:26 xanthyos no he's an abuser
18:26 xanthyos i shared somethign very close
18:26 xanthyos and he used it to abuser mje
18:26 xanthyos after gaining my trust
18:26 xanthyos and he's laughting at me now whipe i'm cryting
18:27 xanthyos i'mn physical and emotinoal duredses
18:32 mircea_popescu !up moltenSEA
18:33 cazalla xanthyos, drunk too?
18:33 mircea_popescu am i the only one reading xanthyos as "shanty-os", as in you know, temple-os before it became a temple ?
18:35 xanthyos NOT AT ALL DRUNK
18:35 cazalla yeah, in the same way some might read mircea as mersaya
18:35 xanthyos NOT IN THE LEAST INTOXICATED
18:35 xanthyos I SAHRED SOMETHING VERY PERSONAL
18:35 kakobrekla messiah?
18:35 mircea_popescu !up LURKERSGTFO
18:35 xanthyos http://pastebin.com/GyBLK9cA << I AM "e" IN THIS TRANSCRIPT
18:35 assbot /help for a list of commands.* [5:59 PM] e: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0 - Pastebin.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1rmEoPt )
18:35 kakobrekla https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zjz16xjeBAA
18:35 assbot He's Not The Messiah - Monty Python's Life of Brian - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1rmEpmx )
18:35 mircea_popescu LURKERSGTFO you got something you wanna share with the group ?
18:36 xanthyos NOW THE WORLD CAN KNOW MY TRAUMA
18:36 mircea_popescu ;;gettrust assbot xanthyos
18:36 gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask xanthyos!xanthyos@silenceisdefeat.com. Trust relationship from user assbot to user xanthyos: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=xanthyos | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=xanthyos | Rated since: Tue May 13 21:36:26 2014
18:36 LURKERSGTFO mircea_popescu: yes i would like to share something
18:36 cazalla xanthyos, yelling at cops and saying it's going on youtube never helps
18:37 xanthyos i was awake for several days before they showed up
18:37 cazalla unless perhaps trained in the mircea_popescu school of disarming police officers
18:37 xanthyos when a firend of friend on facebook sent them beacuse "afk = dead" when someone's talking about depression to a stranger, apparently.
18:37 mircea_popescu cazalla airport security chicklets.
18:38 xanthyos his name is Dylan Wardwell of Waterford, Connecticut. the cops shared his dox with me so they're public on this statist narc
18:38 xanthyos i am addressing a trauma
18:38 hanbot lol attention hoing moar like it.
18:39 cazalla xanthyos, those cops are standing around like they don't even wanna deal with your shit
18:40 cazalla 15:04 cops is like, i hate my job, i hate my life
18:40 xanthyos i've been unable to watch this thing or edit it down at all for time
18:40 xanthyos the camera stopped recording when it was thrown on the floor
18:41 xanthyos or went for 15 minutes dark
18:41 xanthyos this is raw
18:41 xanthyos and now it's public
18:41 xanthyos i figured out this wally guy in the chat was a bootlicking submissive british male immediately
18:41 xanthyos by his response
18:42 xanthyos amazing how you can assess the statists immediately when you are keenly focused on the specific way their propaganda softens them
18:42 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
18:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18400 @ 0.00040098 = 7.378 BTC [+]
18:42 cazalla xanthyos, for cop to listen to your shit for 15m, that's a lot of patience
18:43 BingoBoingo http://www.deepdotweb.com/2014/11/26/silk-road-2-admin-blake-benthall-released-prison/
18:43 assbot Silk Road 2 Admin Blake Benthall Released From Prison?! - Deep Dot Web ... ( http://bit.ly/1rmGbUE )
18:43 hanbot lol turns out the evidence was bogus?
18:43 xanthyos they were free to leave at any point cazalla
18:43 xanthyos they were unwelcome at my place at dawn when i was awake for a few days
18:44 cazalla xanthyos, i dunno about you but if i hear a knock at the door, i cbf even going to see who it is let alone stand there an argue for 15m
18:46 cazalla xanthyos, this isn't traumatic at all unless perhaps a life spent wrapped in cotton wool
18:49 hanbot !up therealbv
18:49 therealbv thanks hanbot
18:49 therealbv would someone confirm that ben_vulpes' cloak is applied correctly?
18:50 hanbot ben_vulpes, it is.
18:50 BingoBoingo on ben_vulpes yes, on therealbv no
18:54 xanthyos everything's cvoming to the surface with my new take on life post penile surgery
18:55 xanthyos i'm not drunk, though i am on both a mild opiate and an ssri
18:55 xanthyos i felt it was time to just make it public to get over it
18:56 undata you still taking about your dick xanthyos?
18:56 xanthyos it's a personal experience that i can share
18:56 xanthyos that no one else here has experienced
18:56 xanthyos and it's leading to other old wouunds that need to come to the surface
18:56 mircea_popescu xanthyos i think teh plebs be getting restless, undata's like the third hinting to you.
18:56 mircea_popescu you keep count right ?
18:57 mats_cd03 would be nice to have a mechanism to remove voice through an L2 vote
18:58 xanthyos you can just ignore me too
18:58 xanthyos i genuinely thought i was contributing to an extent
18:58 xanthyos at least to the entertainment of other regulars
18:59 undata xanthyos: surely there's a hashtag out there waiting for you
18:59 mircea_popescu well yeah, yest.
18:59 mircea_popescu mats_cd03 there is, you identify the links and bitch at people.
18:59 BingoBoingo Oh, there's a bitbet proposition in the que
19:07 adlai nice one: https://twitter.com/kenhess/status/537683098453164033
19:07 assbot Senator Tom Coburn agrees that Bitcoin is not legal currency via /ZDNet, /kenhess http://t.co/eSpwmKOHbq
19:09 BingoBoingo adlai: Already dealt with http://qntra.net/2014/11/ken-hess-bitcoin-illegal-tom-coburn-maybe-for-congress/
19:09 assbot Ken Hess: Bitcoin Illegal, Tom Coburn: Maybe for Congress? | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1FtfA9n )
19:09 adlai BingoBoingo: look at the specific tweet linked
19:10 adlai this is like me asking mircea_popescu whether the reason that he talks so much about bitcoin is that he actually owns some himself
19:10 BingoBoingo Oh, lol
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19:31 BingoBoingo !up thomas_d
19:31 thomas_d hi
19:33 thomas_d xanthyos ?
19:35 BingoBoingo Lol, even the Obama Daughters can't take daddy Obola seriously http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--QbNEYid3--/yf6kfgkd6icyznsk3jya.gif
19:35 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1vmxtVZ )
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20:09 cazalla http://qntra.net/2014/11/gaw-lawyers-attempt-to-bully-coinfire/
20:09 assbot GAW Lawyers Attempt To Bully CoinFire | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/11vLAwt )
20:12 decimation that zdnet "ken hess" story is amusing. In their hind-brain, the "guardings of the revolution" who are the shock-troops of the left recognize the clear danger bitcoin poses to their entire world
20:12 BingoBoingo Text from the letter http://qntra.net/2014/11/gaw-lawyers-attempt-to-bully-coinfire/#comment-2412
20:12 assbot GAW Lawyers Attempt To Bully CoinFire | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1vPvNGv )
20:12 decimation s/guarding/guardians/
20:13 BingoBoingo What about Guar Dings.
20:13 decimation lol from the comments: "You obviously hate poor people, the elderly, children, minorities - the list likely goes on and on. Inflation has been at record low levels for many years now, so your scare tactics go nowhere. Bitcoins only allow the greedy rich to evade paying their FAIR SHARE in taxes and the like, and their evil transactions are hidden from those who are tasked with protecting the common folk, like the honorable senator
20:13 decimation from the article. Progress will not be impeded by the haters."
20:14 decimation "fair share"..."progress"... these are religious sentiments
20:14 BingoBoingo For people with free time http://underhandedcrypto.com/rules/
20:14 assbot Rules | Underhanded Crypto Contest ... ( http://bit.ly/1vPvY4K )
20:16 BingoBoingo !up OgNasty
20:17 kakobrekla bad time to join cloakless
20:17 BingoBoingo decimation: My favorite part is where nothing the Senator says supports the Author's claim in the way he thinks
20:26 decimation ;;later tell ben_vulpes re: explain "usg has generally used the power of printed dollars to make it such that most people don't pay taxes" << Well, I was thinking of the very straightforward sense in which the majority of humans on us territory receive more dollars from usg than give to usg.
20:26 gribble The operation succeeded.
20:28 decimation note that these 'payments' are mostly not direct transfers (checks from the treasury). They are mostly things like implicit guarantee to banks that usg will 'force solvency', health 'insurance' (free health care), and 'free' roads.
20:28 decimation One might protest: but they pay taxes too! Except - the eitc rebates much of the tax.
20:29 decimation BingoBoingo: yeah the way I read the letter it's pretty clear that the writer flipped the 'crazy bit'
20:32 BingoBoingo decimation: Either that or the lazy bit...
20:36 BingoBoingo Or the "Oh noes, my 401k" bit
20:43 decimation mircea_popescu: "all through 2015 we will be seeing a shitton of 50-somethings with so-so credentrials going all weirdo on bitcoin." << no they just realize that bitcoin == no free money for 'retirement'
20:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46100 @ 0.00039487 = 18.2035 BTC [-] {2}
20:56 BingoBoingo http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/ar--rifle-stolen-from-st-louis-county-police-car/article_81836345-b8b6-5dd5-8efd-b76be291afc7.html
20:56 assbot AR-15 rifle stolen from St. Louis County police car torched by rioters in Ferguson : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1rwg4oK )
20:57 decimation BingoBoingo: I like the story about the black folk who protect the white-owned gas station
20:57 BingoBoingo decimation: I thought that story was a gun store, not a gas station
20:58 decimation "One exception - a Conoco gas station and convenience store."
20:58 BingoBoingo Ah, Story
20:59 BingoBoingo 's more boring than I thought
20:59 decimation one wonders why more folks in Ferguson don't have a similar attitude - if for no other reason than the "don't shit where you eat" principle
20:59 mircea_popescu ahh the weather here is so pleasant
21:00 decimation in general, franchise businesses avoid setting up shop in us ghettos for exactly this reason
21:01 BingoBoingo decimation: Well you have to consider North St Louis COunty ghettos aren't THAT compartamentalized. Most people looting weren't hitting where they eat
21:01 mod6 decimation: from the other night, this is what sticks out in my mind: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=25-11-2014#934115
21:01 assbot Logged on 25-11-2014 04:00:03; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if the rats set fire to the lab, what'd you expect they'd burn ? the cages or the files ?
21:02 mircea_popescu Bruce Fenton @brucefenton · 7h7 hours ago @kenhess Do I own Bitcoin? I see your research into me is about as weak as your article.
21:02 mircea_popescu Ken Hess @kenhess · 7h7 hours ago @brucefenton I don't bother researching rancid Twitterati. And I don't care what you believe that you are. Again, do you own any Bitcoin?
21:02 mircea_popescu ahem. how come all poor research is always defended in the same manner,
21:02 mircea_popescu and with the same mannerisms ?
21:02 mircea_popescu relatedly, how would one distinguish ken from tim ?
21:02 decimation mircea_popescu: maybe this ken guy knows mr. flood
21:03 decimation they appear to have a similar attitude toward civilized behavior
21:03 BingoBoingo !up Vexual
21:03 Vexual assbot talks to me now
21:04 mircea_popescu <decimation> that zdnet "ken hess" story is amusing. In their hind-brain, the "guardings of the revolution" who are the shock-troops of the left recognize the clear danger bitcoin poses to their entire world << hence http://trilema.com/2013/valiant-prince-mp-explores-the-mother-of-all-echo-chambers-a-saga-of-our-times/
21:04 assbot Valiant prince MP explores the mother of all echo chambers. A saga of our times. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1rwhP5d )
21:04 mircea_popescu what else did you think the something awful interest in bitcoin is and has been powered by, all these years.
21:05 mircea_popescu roughly speaking, the progre's relation to bitcoin is fat ugly chick in your class that keeps calling you up and passing you notes in class, dozens of times a day. the content is all about how "women like to be treated" and "what makes a good man", but...
21:05 decimation mircea_popescu: the reaction to bitcoin (by non-bitcoin holders) seems to fall into two camps: 1 - bitcoin sucks because I don't have any or 2. bitcoin sucks so I need to steal some
21:05 mircea_popescu the hope is that you may give a shit.
21:06 mod6 haha
21:06 decimation mircea_popescu: yeah that sums it up nicely
21:07 mircea_popescu <decimation> mircea_popescu: "all through 2015 we will be seeing a shitton of 50-somethings with so-so credentrials going all weirdo on bitcoin." << no they just realize that bitcoin == no free money for 'retirement' << the problem there is that they actually DID work, and should have some money. problem is, in typical tardstalk fashion, they got scammed and having nothing left, are now siding with the scammer.
21:07 BingoBoingo decimation: Number 1 tends to be incredibly popular amongst people who have other things
21:08 decimation BingoBoingo: yeah pretty much as mircea just outlined
21:08 Vexual so 10 and twenties have more to worry about?
21:08 decimation "I got scammed so we are gonna scam you"
21:08 mircea_popescu decimation just look at all the glbse fanbois who TO THIS DAY prefer to derp instead of admitting that mpoe-pr was right and they were stupid.
21:08 Vexual surely the scamming wont continue forever, due to satoshi being a wizard
21:08 BingoBoingo Nah, 2 seems more popular amongst people who never had anything except through scams of their own
21:09 mircea_popescu then there was a period of ken slaugther powered nonsense, where the losers made threads about how mpex is teh scientology.
21:09 mircea_popescu and on it will go, for as long as there's something standing the zombies will try to crowd it out while pretending it ain't standing.
21:09 BingoBoingo I think the Ken SLaughter nonsense crowd moved on to GAW apologias, almost to a person
21:10 mircea_popescu the "i want to believe" crowd.
21:11 mircea_popescu the only spawn of democracy, really. they fit with the electoral cycle really well. today, derp goes "i shall make money out of cockroaches, just have to have a pile large enough". they spend a year piling up cockroaches. no money appears, but just in time for...
21:11 mircea_popescu 4 years from now, "different" derp, "i will make money out of frogs"
21:11 mircea_popescu they collect frogs for a while... whatever, if it works free money and if itdoesn't at least it wasn't work.
21:12 mircea_popescu this can keep on for as long as how did it go "evil people refuse to pay their fair share".
21:13 decimation When I read something like that I think of that little rat Marat
21:13 mircea_popescu fuck em, who cares. they can starve chanting whatever they please to chant.
21:13 mircea_popescu "fair share" or "hail mary", same difference.
21:14 decimation at least "hail mary" doesn't generally end with "let's break out dr. guillotine"
21:15 mircea_popescu ;;google "My law firm represents GAW Miners, LLC"
21:15 gribble GAW ZenCloud ZenPool Hashlet - does it really exist? ALWAYS MAKE ...: <https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=720844.3580>; CoinPrism to challenge Cloud Mining Giants | Bitcoinist.net: <http://bitcoinist.net/coinprism-to-challenge-cloud-mining-giants/>; CFO – GAW Miners – Bloomfield, CT - Coinality: <https://coinality.com/jobs/cfo-gaw-miners-bloomfield-ct/>
21:15 mircea_popescu dude this is broken somehow.
21:15 mircea_popescu a) none of those pages contains the string and b) as far as i can determine, the only site on the internet containing it is the qntra article.
21:16 mircea_popescu https://www.google.com/search?q=%22My+law+firm+represents+GAW+Miners,+LLC%22&complete=0&gws_rd=ssl << like so.
21:16 assbot "My law firm represents GAW Miners, LLC" - Google zoeken ... ( http://bit.ly/1rwkE6k )
21:17 mircea_popescu anyway, nice going you two.
21:18 BingoBoingo Thank you
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21:37 BingoBoingo !up Vexual
21:40 Vexual whats the story regarding the hostile ddos bot assbot mentions?
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22:08 BingoBoingo !up GrandHierophant
22:08 BingoBoingo !up Vexual
22:13 ben_vulpes hallelujah
22:14 ben_vulpes now to test new bouncer under laptop close and reopen scenario
22:15 ben_vulpes ;;ping
22:15 gribble pong
22:15 ben_vulpes ;;ping
22:15 gribble pong
22:16 Vexual you bought a man phone vuples?
22:17 ben_vulpes getting there, vex. getting there.
22:21 ben_vulpes well a day later and a new emacs/irc toolchain in place
22:21 ben_vulpes for the curious:
22:21 Vexual android?
22:21 ben_vulpes weechat has its own relay protocol, and someone wrote a half-decent emacs mode for it.
22:22 ben_vulpes Vexual: nah, i roll with iphones.
22:22 ben_vulpes !s mortgaged mac
22:22 assbot 3 results for 'mortgaged mac' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=mortgaged+mac
22:23 Vexual oh yes, i forget, but i was being facetious anyway
22:23 ben_vulpes we'll see how well it handles long disconnect periods.
22:27 ben_vulpes https://www.refheap.com/94079 << i wanted to make it a bit more functional, eg bind the return string from decryption to a thing but...elisp man.
22:27 assbot anonymous's paste: 94079 ... ( http://bit.ly/1rnFv1d )
22:28 ben_vulpes Vexual: when the "android" "platform" isn't a total shitshow, maybe then.
22:28 Vexual yeah
22:28 ben_vulpes more likely i'll have moved off of "smart" phones at that point.
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23:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32650 @ 0.00039643 = 12.9434 BTC [+] {2}
23:31 mats_cd03 the #1 thing keeping me on android is now the functionality i get with the moto x
23:31 mats_cd03 the always on mic, while creepy, is ungodly useful
23:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49400 @ 0.00039254 = 19.3915 BTC [-] {2}
23:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11854 @ 0.00038826 = 4.6024 BTC [-]
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