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01:57 gregorynyssa http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/pest/2023-08-16#1030300 << I suffered from this before.
01:57 dulapbot Logged on 2023-08-16 18:05:54 shinohai[asciilifeform]: In Windblowze lol: https://arstechnica.com/security/2023/08/windows-feature-that-resets-system-clocks-based-on-random-data-is-wreaking-havoc/
01:57 gregorynyssa However, I still use Windows on a daily basis.
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08:42 awt_akris !!ticker btc usd
08:42 deedbot $28,470
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09:45 asciilifeform http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-08-16#1029795 << if yer thinking of fg, wasn't exactly 'mass', each of the print runs at one pt fit on a tabletop (had to solder the pin headers manually, lol, factory hadn't done it as part was outta stock)
09:45 bitbot Logged on 2023-08-16 17:51:53 awt_akris[signpost]: reflects on asciilifeform actually mass producing a hardware item
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10:30 billymg http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-08-16#1029782 << this one?
10:30 bitbot Logged on 2023-08-16 16:48:03 signpost: recalls a good mp rant on the subj of folks popping in as though flipping through tv channels.
10:30 bitbot (trilema) 2018-02-20 mircea_popescu: no but i mean the fucking lameness of it. dood's got a "well rounded internet experience", he's got a mortgage and a boring wife and a boring job and a hp he bought at the store, and he "logs in" for a coupla hours four times a week or w/e. every nine weeks and a half we pop up again in the rotation, he's done 4chan, reddit, facebook, whatever, "i wonder what THOSE zany kids are up to these days".
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10:46 signpost yep that
10:59 asciilifeform aha, that was it
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15:23 asciilifeform http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-08-17#1029799 << what keeps you on winblows?
15:23 bitbot Logged on 2023-08-17 01:57:16 gregorynyssa[deedbot|signpost]: However, I still use Windows on a daily basis.
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17:58 billymg !!ticker btc usd
17:58 deedbot $25,630
17:58 billymg good lord
17:58 signpost the rip is here my dudes
17:59 signpost it'd be mighty entertaining if the hybrid world war results in all three megastates getting dead.
18:00 billymg if you look at the meme lines, you can see that the daily yesterday closed below support
18:00 billymg leading to today's mega dump
18:01 billymg signpost: yeah, isn't china now having trouble with their currency, prompting a fresh round of brrr over there?
18:03 signpost yep, they're just as fucked as we are.
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18:33 signpost btc's price action's still moving right along with difficulty fwiw
18:33 signpost would be nice to figure out a way to include energy prices in this somehow.
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19:29 asciilifeform ohlol 'cheap'coinz again eh
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19:46 unpx http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/pest/2023-03-17#1025202 <<< What makes me sad is that some people are looking...
19:46 dulapbot Logged on 2023-03-17 14:53:19 signpost[asciilifeform]: ripple's an overcomplicated proposed replacement for swift, not bitcoin.
19:48 unpx ...forward this kind of buzzwords
19:52 unpx ...and the most reasonable way there is piggybacking new, malleable standards
19:53 unpx ... ( vid of the slides Crypto&Privacy Village DEFCON31 Day 1 "Attacking Decentralized Identity" )
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19:56 asciilifeform loox unbearably tedious
19:56 asciilifeform ( wat the hell is 'decentralized' about 'decentralized identity'(tm)(r) ? )
19:57 unpx Instead of the centralized user-password pair, you have your agent with some pub-priv key pair and use t
19:57 asciilifeform actual decentralized identity == rsa pubkey, manually operated.
19:58 unpx ...and use _the agent_ (not the key directly) to authenticate on "Web5" (which is built on top of "Web3")
19:58 asciilifeform (well, private operations, manually operated.)
19:58 asciilifeform whythefuck 'agent'
20:00 unpx Cuz doesn't have to be a blockchain wallet, and it is not just a "here are the pub keys", it should be more like ssh-agent which choose which key to use with who and so on
20:00 unpx But this is just what I could picture, in the best scenario
20:00 asciilifeform endless variations on the theme of 'pubkey signatures without actual control', snore
20:01 asciilifeform fuck 'web n.0'. with red hot poker.
20:02 asciilifeform manually-triggered rsa ops or fulla shit.
20:03 unpx 'gov/corp signed pubkey' could summarize what they are trying to achieve, since it all goes back to certs sinkhole at some point, which is amusing
20:03 asciilifeform of course goes to escrowed sinkhole.
20:04 unpx Except with extra layers of confusion cuz 'semantic web'
20:04 asciilifeform or reich's tools wouldn't push it.
20:04 asciilifeform the confusion 'is feature, not bug'(tm)
20:04 unpx In the video they mention China already registered a DID method (if you know JWT, run away) that is pretty harmful
20:05 asciilifeform what diff does it make if the masterkeys are china's or usg's
20:05 asciilifeform a masterkeyed crock o'shit is a masterkeyed crock o'shit.
20:06 unpx https://www.w3.org/TR/did-core/#dfn-did-methods
20:06 unpx ``A DID method is defined by a DID method specification, which specifies the precise operations by which DIDs and DID documents are created, resolved, updated, and deactivated.''
20:06 asciilifeform see also etc.
20:06 asciilifeform ( and elsewhere. )
20:09 dulapbot (asciilifeform) 2020-02-13 asciilifeform: the purpose of e.g. ssl is to drive n00bz away from actual crypto.
20:09 dulapbot (asciilifeform) 2020-06-24 asciilifeform: anyffin, anyffin to keep folx from even thinking about actual (i.e. where the keyz live on yer hdd and nowhere else) crypto..
20:09 dulapbot (asciilifeform) 2020-12-31 asciilifeform: verisimilitude: imho it is a not unimportant detail, that the agitprop comes from folx whose actual aim is to drive functional, publicly-available crypto into extinction (and in fact largely achieved this)
20:09 dulapbot (asciilifeform) 2021-01-21 asciilifeform: as for encryption -- 99+% of what's 'out there' in the sense of 'readable by plebe armed w/ google' was written specifically to ensure that actual crypto aint there when you in fact do need it.
20:11 asciilifeform whythefuck even pay any attention to liquishit where 'your' pubkey 'not counts' unless some third party signed it? or 'stops counting' when again some third party 'revokes' ? or where some piece of shit can sign 'on your behalf' because 'court order' or whatever.
20:11 asciilifeform just piss on it.
20:12 asciilifeform ( not even speaking of the idiocy where 'your' key actually lives on some remote machine in its entirety )
20:13 asciilifeform none of it has anyffing to do with actual cryptography. y'know, the kind where you're in full control of your, actually private, privkey, and manually approve all computations involving it, erry single time.
20:14 asciilifeform and where pubkey is what you actually chose, consciously, to give yer counterparty.
20:19 asciilifeform http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-08-17#1029827 << will say for nth time, it's approx as interesting as 'attacks on ssl! newz at 11!'. the implication 100% of the time is that the fact that reich can do whatever it wants with the pki and effectively 'act on your behalf'(tm) whenever it wants, 'isn't an attack'
20:19 bitbot Logged on 2023-08-17 19:53:25 unpx[jonsykkel|signpost|deedbot]: ... ( vid of the slides Crypto&Privacy Village DEFCON31 Day 1 "Attacking Decentralized Identity" )
20:20 unpx Yup
20:20 asciilifeform actual crypto is when you can take cyanide and then 'all the king's horses and all the king's men' can go suck their thumbs.
20:20 unpx http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/pest/2023-08-17#1030361 <<< Heh, is this what to do when ppl are shooting at their feet?
20:24 dulapbot Logged on 2023-08-17 20:09:38 asciilifeform: just piss on it.
20:31 unpx (In other (licensing) news)
20:32 asciilifeform 'martian problem'
20:32 dulapbot (asciilifeform) 2021-07-04 asciilifeform: what ilkka kokkarinen called 'martian problem'. (iirc from pokerism, term of art.)
20:33 unpx Yes, ahah
20:34 asciilifeform definition of subj ftr.
20:34 dulapbot (trilema) 2014-11-25 asciilifeform: 'I’d like to see one expression coined by the poker writer Matt Matros become common parlance, since it applies far more widely than only to poker. An “alien problem” means some problem that might be fun, interesting and educational to analyze, and it would be really important to know
20:34 dulapbot (trilema) 2014-11-25 asciilifeform: ace, because it can only have resulted from you having made choices that are obviously wrong and easily avoidable. At the poker table, the description of an alien problem might begin “So I called a raise and re-raise preflop from the small blind with my jack-three offsuit...” Say no mo
20:34 dulapbot (trilema) 2014-11-25 asciilifeform: ink about how to get out of problems like that. Outside the poker table, consider any problem that starts with the words “So, I have been having a steamy secret affair with the wife of this violent mob boss, and now she...”'
20:34 asciilifeform ugh, that ended up mangled. but can read in orig log.
20:35 asciilifeform was 'alien problem'.
20:38 asciilifeform i.e. asciilifeform never heard of 'hashicorp'. had to look it up. and unsurprisingly found that the folx who care what it is and what it does, have certainly made 'wrong choices in life' that were imho avoidable, and for many not even too late to fix
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