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00:01 BingoBoingo Nah, one doesn't want to appear to be a dorky BTC Jesus. One wants to look like a simple blue collar actual jesus.
00:08 benkay or suits as the case may be.
00:08 benkay probably relatively high-profile from target perspective.
00:08 benkay "oh, dude has btc. let's breach his personal security and get 'em."
00:10 benkay but also it has to be a sustainable, fault-tolerant thing that a person can practice their whole lives.
00:10 kakobrekla basically you need some nut a wrench cant unscrew
00:10 benkay "personal crypto security: basically impossibly hard"
00:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.58 BTC [-]
00:11 benkay i'm thinking best practices for personal backup and recovery strategy for keys and private contracts and such.
00:11 dub BingoBoingo has it really, don't get caught
00:12 dub no amount of kit will protect you from a determined attacker
00:12 asciilifeform benkay: "personal crypto security: basically impossibly hard" << every time this is said, nsa cafeteria fillets and serves a white tiger kitten (or insert rarer and cuter animal)
00:12 benkay sure sure
00:13 B007 benkay: all your bitcoins are belong to me
00:13 benkay no i know asciilifeform, it's in quotes for a reason
00:13 benkay okay i have this gpg key
00:13 B007 just store your keys encrypted and offline, hope for the best?
00:13 benkay how do i best ensure i have access to it forever?
00:13 dub benkay: one thing I do is delete or hide any wallets im carrying across borders
00:14 benkay encrypted image with all important keys and files?
00:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 150 @ 0.0008829 = 0.1324 BTC [+]
00:17 BingoBoingo carry some microfiche that looks like a one time pad and you actual keys more discretely, misdirect the attention
00:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 300 @ 0.00088299 = 0.2649 BTC [+] {2}
00:18 benkay faugh
00:21 BingoBoingo perhaps find a "collectible" surplus or replica for the purpose
00:21 chetty fillup a lot of storage with random stuff, encrypted with different keys, lose it in the mess
00:22 benkay obfuscation
00:23 benkay i'm afraid of becoming an old man and actually losing it in the mess, though.
00:23 asciilifeform none of you seem to be thinking about the obvious
00:23 asciilifeform situation where enemy (willing to torture and kill) knows that you're loaded
00:23 asciilifeform and doesn't know (or care) where you keep the stash
00:23 asciilifeform but has your arse
00:23 asciilifeform and a soldering iron.
00:23 chetty cyanide
00:23 asciilifeform for some reason i thought that is what this line of thought was about.
00:24 benkay more along the lines of list of things to do that will reduce attack surface area
00:24 benkay maximize key durability
00:24 benkay and access
00:24 asciilifeform next lower class of attack: enemy willing to steal every single one of your identifiable possessions
00:25 benkay right. they got the backups.
00:26 benkay so the only thing to do is an encrypted drive with a memorized dicelist.
00:26 asciilifeform the only real defence is: obscurity
00:26 chetty #1 - don't be a target, #2 - don't be an easy target
00:27 benkay #3 make it hard to parse the possibility space, #4 have rock solid encryption as a last barrier?
00:28 benkay am i retarded or is this problem hard?
00:28 benkay is there a checklist for the professional keyholder i've failed to find?
00:28 asciilifeform wtf is a professional keyholder
00:29 benkay i have a wot key
00:29 benkay it is the sum of my identity 25 years from now
00:29 benkay my whole business is tied up in this thing
00:29 benkay i lose it, i lose everything
00:29 benkay i'm interested in best practices for this sort of scenario.
00:30 asciilifeform encrypt, using a process known only to you, and inject in the blockchain.
00:30 asciilifeform (if you are not willing to pay what this costs, the payload cannot be important)
00:31 benkay yeah, i'll buy that.
00:31 chetty in the end a key based id is no different than the various numbers and stuff we use now, how do you protect those?
00:32 asciilifeform 'pay' in the sense that stuffing bits in the blockchain costs.
00:33 benkay what is the going rate per kb?
00:33 asciilifeform benkay: depends on the actual mechanism used.
00:34 asciilifeform under no circumstances should you tell us - or anyone else - which.
00:34 benkay ah, right.
00:35 asciilifeform programmatically pissing out transactions is trivial, use your imagination.
00:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00085899 = 5.2398 BTC [+] {2}
00:42 benkay thank you, asciilifeform.
00:44 asciilifeform benkay: remember that steganography, unlike cryptography, cannot be simultaneously strong and standardized.
00:44 asciilifeform ('standardized stego' is the key hidden under door mat.)
00:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 3678 @ 0.00055795 = 2.0521 BTC [+] {8}
00:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00085948 = 5.6726 BTC [+] {2}
00:51 benkay mhm.
00:59 MisterE Crimerians are happy the Russians are there
01:00 benkay stuff like this as well: http://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-users/2005-December/027626.html
01:00 benkay thumbs up or down on revocation certs safely stored offline?
01:01 benkay i guess just another aspect of the problem we all face that we never talk about in public because just talking about it exposes your practices
01:01 benkay sheeeeit
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01:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 20 @ 0.0053666 = 0.1073 BTC [-]
01:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40150 @ 0.00085607 = 34.3712 BTC [-] {4}
01:34 Jakamoko looks like mtgox got hacked again
01:34 Jakamoko http://pastebin.com/W8B3CGiN
01:34 ozbot [PHP] <?php namespace Money; class Bitcoin { #const BITCOIN_NODE = '173.224.12 - Pastebin.co
01:38 ThickAsThieves sry of alrdy linked: http://two-bit-idiot.tumblr.com/post/78404559815/tbi-exclusive-more-resignations-coming-at-the-bitcoin
01:39 ThickAsThieves Matonis and Vess resigning
01:40 ThickAsThieves also, supposed gox leak http://pastebin.com/W8B3CGiN
01:41 ThickAsThieves "nanashi____ who posted the leaked recording between Mark Karpeles and the Japanese bank also says there is a 20GB MySQL database. An unknown group is trying to decode it and retrieve non-personal information at the moment, and may release a torrent later."
01:41 ThickAsThieves IRC log: http://pastebin.com/N7B5DC4d
01:42 ThickAsThieves audio http://picosong.com/Y7di/
01:43 ThickAsThieves supposedly boring conversation in japanese about laws
01:43 Jakamoko supposedly they got access to the user's aml documentation
01:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 56 @ 0.0053666 = 0.3005 BTC [-]
01:48 benkay kewl
01:54 chetty Tim Cook has shocked some in the US with an impassioned attack on the single-minded pursuit of profit – and a direct appeal to climate-change deniers not to buy shares in his firm.
01:55 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo ouch
01:58 benkay ;;gpg eauth freenode:#bitcoin-otc:dcc0be6c1a24011e376ab8d29c7bbd11ab3a913e394fd3f41913c798
01:58 gribble Error: This nick is not registered. Please register.
01:58 benkay
01:58 benkay buwaaat
01:58 benkay ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:dcc0be6c1a24011e376ab8d29c7bbd11ab3a913e394fd3f41913c798
01:58 gribble You are now authenticated for user benkay with key 39F274AFBC7ACAC7
01:58 benkay
02:06 KRS-One .bait
02:06 ozbot http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4rd4aKvSt1qkv4ajo1_500.jpg
02:07 mircea_popescu in new news : bitcoin scamdation running out of the us
02:07 KRS-One BREAKING NEWS: USD transaction maleability issue. News at 11.
02:07 mircea_popescu maybe this way they'll escape prosecution and everything
02:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.005602 = 0.112 BTC [+]
02:07 mircea_popescu you'd think bfl's vleisides is advising them.
02:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 25 @ 0.0054 = 0.135 BTC [+]
02:10 Apocalyptic damn, i've been off for a while and it seems the gox drama is keeping on
02:12 mircea_popescu o yeah, this is good drama, gotta keep it for at least a month.
02:13 Apocalyptic the AML data leak kinda bothers me
02:14 mircea_popescu because why ?
02:15 mircea_popescu it's great, it will encourage anyone who isn't an imbecile to not send his data to aml bs.
02:15 mircea_popescu bitcoin is here to kill aml anyway. why prolong its agony.
02:16 Apocalyptic yeah I can agree on that
02:17 joecool oh god i was missing this kind of scamming
02:17 joecool so good
02:17 mircea_popescu anyway. for the record : people quitting Bitcoin Foundation now are going to be getting exactly zero credit for it.
02:17 mircea_popescu they should have quit when i said it's a scam, not wait till after i killed their piggybank.
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02:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 171 @ 0.00540363 = 0.924 BTC [-] {7}
02:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 55 @ 0.0051002 = 0.2805 BTC [-] {7}
02:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 29 @ 0.00506247 = 0.1468 BTC [-] {4}
02:41 mircea_popescu benkay well yes, the icelanders are under insane capital controls. what's the surprise here ?
02:43 bitcoinpete hi
02:43 benkay and yet the aurora coin people are nominally going to give coins to icelandic folk?
02:44 benkay the surprise is that people buy this particular scam.
02:44 mircea_popescu people will buy anything.
02:44 mircea_popescu this is the problem with welfare : this sort of idiot should be on a starvation diet
02:44 mircea_popescu that way you ensure any resources they have are judiciously expended.
02:44 mircea_popescu if they have as much as one cent extra over what the bare minimum their sustenance requires,
02:45 mircea_popescu they'll spend it to buy britney spears records and aurora coins
02:45 mircea_popescu this is a serious problem, because one cent from one billion scum results in enough piled up money for shit like spears and aurora coin to pretenbd like they matter.
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03:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5831 @ 0.00085548 = 4.9883 BTC [-] {2}
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03:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.57 = 1.71 BTC [-] {2}
03:38 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=498002.new#new
03:38 ozbot Calling out the Bitcoin Foundation Scam.
03:43 benkay belabour
03:43 benkay neat coinage
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04:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00572531 = 0.2863 BTC [+] {5}
04:09 vexuall Can I get a link to pankkakes mpex charting?
04:11 azi` gah I hope the guys at gox didn't store the passwords in playintex
04:11 azi` plaintext*
04:13 vexuall Mark, ll keep running it from fraudblock on analdroid like nothings wrong
04:16 azi` have u guys seen that someone stole personal data from gox just recently?
04:18 benkay azi` you could check the logs
04:18 benkay they're linked in the message of the day.
04:18 benkay sorry nobody's around to tell you your news is stale on cue
04:18 vexuall Ben10 can you point me to pankakke, s sexiness?
04:20 benkay i think ihop's over thattaway baby doll
04:20 vexuall Ugg
04:20 benkay yo be a luv and hit us with some baile funk
04:21 vexuall Jailhouse rock. Elvis
04:21 benkay sounds like stupid old person music
04:23 benkay hey and what happened to your nick
04:23 benkay ;;gettrust Vexual
04:23 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user Vexual: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=Vexual | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Vexual | Rated since: never
04:23 benkay you know vex you can get in the wot with just a btc wallet
04:24 vexuall I dont have a notebook right now
04:26 vexuall ;; gettrust Benkay
04:26 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user vexuall to user Benkay: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=vexuall&dest=Benkay | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Benkay | Rated since: Sun Mar 10 13:57:45 2013
04:26 benkay yeah well how the fuck am i supposed to rate you if you're not even in the wot?!
04:27 vexuall Who gives a fuck what I think?
04:27 benkay you play sweet tunes
04:27 benkay give it three years you might talk mp into flying you out to dj the next secret bitcoinspiracy con
04:28 Apocalyptic mircea_popescu, "The only reason TradeFortress wasn't similarly has to do with cash" // I believe the foundation vouched for him in the sense they published some logo or whatever advertising for inputs.io
04:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.08491521 = 0.1698 BTC [+]
04:33 vexuall Tunnel time
04:34 vexuall .bait
04:34 ozbot http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m38ywxlyOX1qa9gago1_500.jpg
04:38 Apocalyptic amazingly it's still there : https://members.bitcoinfoundation.org/current
04:38 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
04:38 vexuall Apo: proof of hack was invented long ago
04:42 vexuall 2 year gox exploit? Bullshit
04:45 vexuall Good luck buying a corner to piss in dux
04:47 dexX7_ http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1zaqvy/bitstamp_email_list_used_to_spread_mtgox_malware/
04:47 ozbot Bitstamp email list used to spread Mt.Gox malware : Bitcoin
04:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 8950 @ 0.0002 = 1.79 BTC [+]
04:53 vexuall Such negligence
04:54 vexuall Wow
04:55 dexX7_ this is probably teh end of bitcoin :(
04:55 vexuall Such that an irc handle wont save you
04:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1900 @ 0.00020721 = 0.3937 BTC [+] {2}
04:56 vexuall ;)
04:57 vexuall Some dude said how the internet routs around fucktardery wnd cesorship
04:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3545 @ 0.00020999 = 0.7444 BTC [+] {3}
04:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.08495399 = 0.7646 BTC [+] {3}
04:59 HeySteve vexuall, yeah but he said it about usenet
05:00 vexuall Still a thing :)
05:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.08497585 = 0.3399 BTC [+] {4}
05:01 HeySteve Chinese might not agree
05:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.59988999 = 1.1998 BTC [+]
05:01 vexuall Do they have newsgroups?
05:05 vexuall Alt.binaries.blockchain
05:08 vexuall Not to be confused with atc. Altcoin
05:09 vexuall ;; ug altcoin
05:09 gribble Error: "ug" is not a valid command.
05:09 vexuall Gimme love assbot
05:10 vexuall .d
05:10 ozbot 3.816 billion | Next Diff in 1582 blocks | Estimated Change: 3.8253% in 10d 13h 23m 22s
05:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 50 @ 0.0055 = 0.275 BTC
05:11 vexuall Ugg
05:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 38 @ 0.08000553 = 3.0402 BTC [-] {5}
05:13 vexuall Binaries.blockchain
05:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.08 = 0.32 BTC [-]
05:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.02134426 = 0.1067 BTC [+] {2}
05:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 27 @ 0.0055 = 0.1485 BTC
05:21 vexuall +o
05:23 vexuall Fuck you assbot
05:24 wao-ender v00h, this is hell wimmie crazy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFdHe-_82Xc
05:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0802 = 0.401 BTC [+] {3}
05:30 chetty <dexX7_> this is probably teh end of bitcoin :( <<<<< what again???
05:31 dexX7_ hehe
05:31 dexX7_ it's different this time!
05:31 dexX7_ < kidding ;)
05:34 vexuall Ugg I need a blog
05:39 vexuall Warm yor cake hole corn hole sppooon fed fuckstick face by the fire
05:40 vexuall Laughing time is over
05:45 wao-ender any reccomendation on some bitcoin related-art?
05:48 cazalla people buy bitcoin related art?
06:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.08000001 = 0.32 BTC [-] {2}
06:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.08000001 = 0.32 BTC [-]
06:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9950 @ 0.00085672 = 8.5244 BTC [+]
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06:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0760015 = 0.228 BTC [-]
06:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.07600002 = 0.532 BTC [-]
07:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3832 @ 0.00021 = 0.8047 BTC [+] {2}
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07:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16950 @ 0.00085679 = 14.5226 BTC [+]
07:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 90 @ 0.005377 = 0.4839 BTC [-] {3}
07:21 ThickAsThieves yes the post is errored in that TF was a Silver Member of the BTCFundnation
07:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.00536625 = 0.2147 BTC [-] {5}
07:25 wao-ender TF?
07:25 ThickAsThieves TradeFortress
07:25 ThickAsThieves Inputs.io specifically
07:25 wao-ender ah inputs..
07:26 ThickAsThieves you can still see the Silver Member logo on his site today if you click thru www.inputs.io
07:32 nubbins` wow, so bitstamp lost their email list? lel
07:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 28 @ 0.005366 = 0.1502 BTC [-]
07:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 22 @ 0.00516003 = 0.1135 BTC [-] {4}
07:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.044499 = 0.267 BTC [+]
07:42 HeySteve we have the story of Karpele's fraud in France before he fled to Japan and started Gox - http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/2014/03/03/exclusive-tibanne-co-ltd-sentenced-2013-mark-karpeless-lies-new/
07:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 50 @ 0.0446 = 2.23 BTC [+]
07:46 ThickAsThieves <nubbins`> wow, so bitstamp lost their email list? lel /// I'm skeptical
07:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 11 @ 0.0447 = 0.4917 BTC [+]
07:47 nubbins` "some random guy" isn't exactly a reliable source for news, hey
07:49 nubbins` HeySteve, your site's layout is broken
07:52 ThickAsThieves Doge Tips? ...
07:52 ThickAsThieves way to lead an article...
07:54 ThickAsThieves "As a result of one’s legitimate desire not to pay for a job failing to comply with the original agreement"
07:54 ThickAsThieves that's leading
07:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4021 @ 0.00021049 = 0.8464 BTC [-] {2}
07:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 800 @ 0.0002105 = 0.1684 BTC [+]
07:55 ThickAsThieves who takes delivery of a web dev project and THEN tests it? what web dev refunds money just cuz job isnt finished?
07:56 ThickAsThieves so far this tells the story of every single web dev project ever
07:57 ThickAsThieves "Mark Karpeles blatantly lied so as to hide an inexcusable fact: no development work had been done. "
07:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00085665 = 1.8846 BTC [-] {2}
07:57 ThickAsThieves evidence?
07:58 ThickAsThieves "Mr. Karpeles’s lies now knew no limit." sic?
07:58 ThickAsThieves sorry
07:58 ThickAsThieves ignore that i read it wrong :)
08:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 64 @ 0.00515102 = 0.3297 BTC [-] {2}
08:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.07999283 = 0.32 BTC [+]
08:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.07999323 = 0.7999 BTC [+] {2}
08:11 HeySteve nubbins, what's up with the layout?
08:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 7 @ 0.13311598 = 0.9318 BTC [-]
08:24 ThickAsThieves "It's not a currency," he said. "I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't around in the next 10-20 years." "It's being priced off the dollar," Buffett added. "It is not a durable means of exchange."
08:31 taub_ heh
08:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800 @ 0.00085679 = 0.6854 BTC [+]
08:36 chetty <ThickAsThieves> who takes delivery of a web dev project and THEN tests it? what web dev refunds money just cuz job isnt finished? <<< The US Gov?
08:37 nubbins` big ol' whitespace breaks going down the page
08:37 nubbins` oh, actually, it's fine now. must've not loaded properly before.
08:37 nubbins` chetty XD
08:40 ThickAsThieves chetty 1, TAT 0
08:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.08 = 0.24 BTC [+] {2}
08:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28173 @ 0.0008568 = 24.1386 BTC [+] {2}
08:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.0905 = 0.181 BTC [-]
09:00 Neil I pointed out the >>= bug about 1 year ago. I got laughed at on the forums.
09:01 Neil It's undefined behaviour to shift by an amount greater than or equal to the bitwidth of the type in C and C++. No such care was taken in the bitcoind codebase.
09:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.080125 = 1.282 BTC [+] {3}
09:01 Neil The laughing was something like "Yeah we'll all care about that in 2200" which is fair enough; no way will the bug last that long. And you won't care before then.
09:02 nubbins` heh.
09:02 Neil But a bug it is; the code wouldn't pass muster in GCC which I used to maintain.
09:03 Neil The problem is most coders don't know the language they're writing, nor do they care. Hence the crap we deal with. We need more Dan Bernsteins and Matt Dillons.
09:04 Neil (though DJBs language conformance was pretty shit too)
09:04 Neil Lemme find the link
09:07 Neil https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=118796.msg1294137#msg1294137
09:07 ozbot So, what happens when bitcoins stop being produced?
09:07 Neil Yeah so I'm zebedee on the fora
09:11 ThickAsThieves "I can't think of any computer program that was running 130 years ago that is still running today." ...
09:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.091 = 0.182 BTC [+]
09:14 nubbins` half that sentence isn't necessary
09:15 Neil ThickAsThieves: The problem is, these are always signs that the dude that wrote it doesn't really know what they're doing. Hence why we're all running code with remote exploits.
09:15 nubbins` actually, you could remove everything past the first three words
09:15 Neil NSA doesn't have to try too hard.
09:16 Neil When I release my bitcoin implementation, it may suck in many ways, but it won't have things like that in it.
09:16 nubbins` twist: nsa foresaw digital currency and created bitcoin codebase so that a flawed implementation would ruin people on the idea
09:18 Neil I guess I can celebrate understanding sthg mircea doesn't / didn't 24 hrs ago. There is no problem with the compilers; whatever they do is good; it's all in the language spec and doing something with no defined semantics.
09:18 ThickAsThieves indeed, it also reminds me of the quantum mining guys somehow arguing that soliciting investors to create it would make them rich in bitcoins, while out the other side of their mouth saying that quantum invulnerable wallets can be made afterward
09:18 ThickAsThieves also they'd open source the miners after they mined "enough"
09:18 ThickAsThieves the whole thing was surreal
09:19 ThickAsThieves what's worse is they weren't even scamming
09:19 ThickAsThieves they believed it al
09:19 ThickAsThieves l
09:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45100 @ 0.00085612 = 38.611 BTC [-] {2}
09:20 ThickAsThieves this is of course why ethereum can't be taken seriously, etc
09:20 Neil Huh? They were claiming they'd be rich exploiting something whose value would go to zero being exploited? They'd have to be quick and smart in how they did said "exploiting".
09:21 ThickAsThieves they said so on a stage as well!
09:21 ThickAsThieves there's no smart quickness about it
09:21 ThickAsThieves the value would be zero
09:23 ThickAsThieves they were deadly focused on the sexiness of achieving psuedo-quantum mining and being geekchic
09:24 KRS-One quantum computing is teh sexy
09:24 KRS-One .bait
09:24 ozbot http://25.media.tumblr.com/4c040e08118610beb5c147f2f8af9cfc/tumblr_mt4lryKehL1s3pvr1o1_1280.jpg
09:24 ThickAsThieves (This was Vitalik Buterin and Jordan Ash, for the record)
09:26 ThickAsThieves http://noospheer.wordpress.com/
09:26 ozbot noospheer | The Quantum Graph
09:26 jurov http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1zf3di/bitstamp_and_kraken_can_you_respond_to_these/
09:26 ozbot Bitstamp and Kraken, can you respond to these allegations by your competitor that you aren't complyi
09:26 ThickAsThieves has Bitstamp responded?
09:27 jurov seems not
09:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 20 @ 0.021399 = 0.428 BTC [+]
09:30 ThickAsThieves i wonder how blurry the line is for getting banned from commenting at theverge
09:34 jurov am i blind or did it just vanished from /r/Bitcoin/ ?
09:34 jurov with >600 upvoes, it should be right there
09:34 jurov anyone can check?
09:36 ThickAsThieves [removed]
09:36 jurov iiiinteresting
09:36 jurov <davout> they told me i'm slanderous soul
09:36 jurov inb4 ^
09:37 ThickAsThieves does davout haz twitter?
09:37 davout @Bitcoin_Central
09:37 davout @davoutplantaire
09:37 ThickAsThieves thx
09:37 davout I used the former before, now I tweet under the latter
09:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 300 @ 0.000884 = 0.2652 BTC [+]
09:38 davout jurov: o, you linked to me buttraping jesse powell :D
09:40 ThickAsThieves davout makes mean posts on forums, therefore he is a liar and only trying to promote his business. Of course!
09:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 250 @ 0.0008848 = 0.2212 BTC [+]
09:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 170 @ 0.00088497 = 0.1504 BTC [+] {2}
09:42 ThickAsThieves people now trust the con- more than the -vincing
09:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.0914 = 0.457 BTC [+]
09:47 ThickAsThieves i wondered what happened to The Genesis Block blog. It looks like they gave up writing and moved on to data
09:48 ThickAsThieves good choice, i suppose
09:48 ThickAsThieves http://thegenesisblock.com/
09:48 ozbot The Genesis Block
09:50 ThickAsThieves Bitstamp Websocket API now available: https://www.bitstamp.net/websocket/
09:52 nubbins` http://filer.case.edu/dts8/thelastq.htm
09:53 nubbins` ThickAsThieves: http://thegenesisblock.com/research/
09:55 ThickAsThieves ah they just tucked it under a misleading name
09:55 ThickAsThieves they used to post more though
09:55 Neil KRS-One: good bait; I have a soft spot for the Asian ladies
09:55 nubbins` yeah, "research" is a misnomer
09:58 Neil Hmm discus fish goes from 56K blocks to 594K blocks.
09:58 Neil Or is blockchain.info full of it?
10:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 32 @ 0.00512 = 0.1638 BTC [-]
10:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.00511 = 1.533 BTC [-]
10:08 mike_c ok.. i give up. mpex turns off 70% of its revenue, the share price goes down basically 0%.
10:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 475 @ 0.00088668 = 0.4212 BTC [+] {3}
10:09 jurov give up what?
10:09 mike_c give up trying to understand.
10:10 jurov welcome in the club
10:10 jurov http://giant.gfycat.com/WholeCloudyConure.gif
10:11 mike_c ^ lol. love it.
10:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.5800001 = 1.16 BTC [-] {2}
10:13 ThickAsThieves lol
10:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 61 @ 0.00510601 = 0.3115 BTC [-]
10:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 228 @ 0.00088788 = 0.2024 BTC [+]
10:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 862 @ 0.00021245 = 0.1831 BTC [+] {2}
10:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 300 @ 0.000888 = 0.2664 BTC [+]
10:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 443 @ 0.00511 = 2.2637 BTC [-] {2}
10:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 90 @ 0.00510956 = 0.4599 BTC [-] {2}
10:28 ThickAsThieves http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRIJ_jpmwzo Ver says sorry for shilling
10:28 ozbot Roger Ver on MTGOX Bankruptcy and Bitcoin - YouTube
10:29 ThickAsThieves bets on how long before he apologizes for this one?
10:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17900 @ 0.00085612 = 15.3245 BTC [-]
10:31 ThickAsThieves lol he namedrops ethereum...
10:36 davout roger veere
10:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 250 @ 0.00088891 = 0.2222 BTC [+] {2}
10:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 21 @ 0.00523699 = 0.11 BTC [+] {2}
10:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 9 @ 0.021399 = 0.1926 BTC [+] {2}
10:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07800208 = 0.156 BTC [-] {2}
11:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0447 = 0.1788 BTC [+]
11:06 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all
11:06 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 617.07, vol: 34737.99747344 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 600.02, vol: 19273.94613 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 618.0, vol: 24450.39495296 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 617.62, vol: 141.42750145 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 600.553359, vol: 9473.99400000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 618.59, vol: 34.37330871 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 618.4077, vol: 193.3986179 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
11:07 BingoBoingo Looks like the drama rally might be heating up
11:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.58 BTC [-]
11:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0436004 = 0.218 BTC [-] {4}
11:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.091001 = 0.455 BTC [-] {3}
11:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.13311598 = 0.6656 BTC [-] {3}
11:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 40 @ 0.07794499 = 3.1178 BTC [-] {3}
11:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0432505 = 0.173 BTC [-] {3}
11:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.091001 = 0.364 BTC [-] {3}
11:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 4 @ 0.13311598 = 0.5325 BTC [-] {3}
11:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 85 @ 0.07307177 = 6.2111 BTC [-] {10}
11:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.58 = 1.74 BTC [-]
11:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 51 @ 0.00522999 = 0.2667 BTC [-] {2}
11:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 9 @ 0.0429 = 0.3861 BTC [-]
11:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.0890006 = 0.178 BTC [-] {2}
11:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.13311598 = 0.2662 BTC [-] {2}
11:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.089 = 0.178 BTC [-] {2}
11:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.13311598 = 0.2662 BTC [-]
11:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.0914999 = 0.183 BTC [+] {2}
11:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.13311598 = 0.2662 BTC [-] {2}
11:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.00088985 = 0.8899 BTC [+] {3}
11:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1118 @ 0.00021 = 0.2348 BTC [-] {3}
11:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 88 @ 0.00538988 = 0.4743 BTC [+]
11:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07300335 = 0.219 BTC [-] {2}
11:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.07186666 = 1.078 BTC [-] {3}
11:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 4180 @ 0.0055 = 22.99 BTC
11:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 17 @ 0.58 = 9.86 BTC [-]
11:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2504 @ 0.0002002 = 0.5013 BTC [-] {8}
11:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1268 @ 0.0001938 = 0.2457 BTC [-] {7}
11:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.072 = 0.936 BTC [+]
11:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5700002 BTC [-]
11:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41200 @ 0.00085577 = 35.2577 BTC [-] {3}
11:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.58 BTC [+]
11:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.36577410 BTC to 3`590 shares, 65899 satoshi per share
12:01 benkay it's a mystery to me as well, mike_c
12:01 benkay ready to play a game of catch-the-knife?
12:02 mike_c except the knife isn't falling!
12:05 ThickAsThieves while i'm not converted, mp did take the time to explain this already
12:07 mike_c you mean http://trilema.com/2014/no-its-not-the-revenue/ ?
12:08 Duffer1 good morning
12:08 the20year2 Nice big trade today, joy
12:08 the20year2 Does mircea_popescu have a contingency plan if Russia rolls through Romania too?
12:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 6 @ 0.13311598 = 0.7987 BTC [-]
12:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.58 BTC [+]
12:15 ThickAsThieves i dont recall which or how many articles covered the topic, but i recall them mostly boiling down to mpoe being the only sure thing in bitcoin to invest in.
12:16 ThickAsThieves if anything can remain irrational longer than the marker, it's surely a creation of mircea_popescu ;)
12:16 ThickAsThieves market*
12:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14350 @ 0.00085488 = 12.2675 BTC [-] {2}
12:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16185 @ 0.00085757 = 13.8798 BTC [+] {2}
12:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.090998 = 0.182 BTC [-] {2}
12:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.13311598 BTC [-]
12:35 benkay ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:d380847cecd5806627a3b3890957c8abf829b0f91c3111495607da04
12:35 benkay
12:35 gribble You are now authenticated for user benkay with key 39F274AFBC7ACAC7
12:36 lalusch casinobitco.in report online!
12:37 Duffer1 ?
12:37 benkay lalusch: well give us a link why dontcha
12:39 lalusch https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B2SWZWkGJ1V3UEo0Q0lESk5nd0k&usp=sharing
12:39 ozbot CasinoBitco.in - Public
12:39 lalusch here you go
12:40 Namworld These revenues suck
12:41 lalusch yes
12:43 ThickAsThieves http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1zadbh/stratfor_examining_the_future_of_bitcoin/
12:43 ozbot [Stratfor] Examining the future of Bitcoin : Bitcoin
12:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 400 @ 0.00512442 = 2.0498 BTC [-] {12}
12:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10412 @ 0.00085519 = 8.9042 BTC [-]
12:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.59990999 = 2.3996 BTC [+] {3}
12:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 55 @ 0.0052001 = 0.286 BTC [+]
12:50 copumpkin mircea_popescu: any luck with that key?
12:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00520011 = 0.26 BTC [+]
12:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 45 @ 0.0052001 = 0.234 BTC [-]
12:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 34 @ 0.00510012 = 0.1734 BTC [-] {2}
13:00 wao-ender vov 710
13:00 ThickAsThieves http://psychologicalinvestor.com/lib/real-markets/selling-bitcoin-froth-204/
13:00 ozbot Selling the Froth: A Simple Hedged Forex Strategy for Bitcoin-Denominated Returns
13:00 ThickAsThieves by Dr Greg
13:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 26 @ 0.00510014 = 0.1326 BTC [-]
13:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 145 @ 0.00510327 = 0.74 BTC [+] {4}
13:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 65 @ 0.00508463 = 0.3305 BTC [-] {5}
13:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 62 @ 0.00505001 = 0.3131 BTC [-] {3}
13:10 ThickAsThieves ;;ticker
13:10 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 669.34, Best ask: 669.72, Bid-ask spread: 0.38000, Last trade: 669.34, 24 hour volume: 51163.03455737, 24 hour low: 553.0, 24 hour high: 710.0, 24 hour vwap: 612.981668613
13:10 benkay "The fact that this type of strategy is ever viable at all seems to me to suggest at least one of two possible explanations: either the futures market is relatively inefficient and dominated by unhedged directional bets taken by gamblers and speculators, or the aggregate view of the Bitcoin capital markets is that the counterparty risk created by exchanges like ICBIT is too high to support strategies that require maintaining a position
13:10 benkay thru to settlement in order to ensure profitability."
13:10 ThickAsThieves nice
13:11 benkay no fucking joke
13:11 benkay little bit of column a, little bit of column b
13:11 BingoBoingo ThickAsThieves: It's the drama bump
13:12 asciilifeform http://cryptome.org/2014/03/amazon-macbook-fraud.htm
13:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 23 @ 0.00504804 = 0.1161 BTC [-] {5}
13:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 227 @ 0.00502 = 1.1395 BTC [-] {5}
13:14 BingoBoingo https://encyclopediadramatica.es/P-p-p-powerbook
13:14 ozbot P-p-p-powerbook - Encyclopedia Dramatica
13:14 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: this one is considerably funnier
13:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 300 @ 0.00055001 = 0.165 BTC [+]
13:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 600 @ 0.00055 = 0.33 BTC [-] {2}
13:16 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Indeed, but it must be established that Apple Products are a serious hotbed of fraud
13:17 asciilifeform the practical 'joke' in the piece isn't apple-specific
13:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 82 @ 0.00556126 = 0.456 BTC [+] {2}
13:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 29 @ 0.021399 = 0.6206 BTC [+]
13:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 110 @ 0.0056699 = 0.6237 BTC [+] {2}
13:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 19 @ 0.04259525 = 0.8093 BTC [-] {8}
13:19 BingoBoingo No, but the high sticker prices seems to encourage bad behavior
13:20 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: this is another one of those instances where the 'avoid ritually unclean things' formula is inadequate.
13:21 BingoBoingo Definitely. The ritual cleasing is roughly as effictive as one of those "dream catchers" with an overly coarse net on a round wooden frame
13:21 asciilifeform the only apple-specific detail in the plot is perhaps the difficulty of removing hdd in newer apple boxes for sanitation
13:22 asciilifeform but this is 'coming soon to a cheap x86 box near you' at any rate
13:22 asciilifeform soldered-down ssd is SOP on virtually all ARM boxes
13:22 asciilifeform and those are quickly overtaking the winblows pc portable
13:23 asciilifeform 'The Market Has Spoken' (TM) that disk doesn't need to be removable.
13:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 180 @ 0.00567497 = 1.0215 BTC [+]
13:23 asciilifeform or accessible independent of the machine it was bought in.
13:23 BingoBoingo For sure. Then there's the problem where business and education market products which seem to have longer time until then now usually come with firmware rooted by default.
13:24 asciilifeform thinking that problem with modern hardware is limited to 'rooting' is a failure of imagination.
13:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 36 @ 0.00500015 = 0.18 BTC [-] {3}
13:24 asciilifeform enemy does not need to remotely control the box if he can encourage you to voluntarily practice bad comsec.
13:24 asciilifeform and opsec
13:25 asciilifeform e.g. mailing a personal box with live (!) environment to somebody.
13:31 asciilifeform incidentally, hardware vendors are 100% solid wall behind this crap
13:31 asciilifeform they stand to win big from the fact of bureaucrats (government and corporate both) mandating destruction of a whole machine upon write-off
13:31 asciilifeform rather than merely the disk, with the remainder hitting the surplus market
13:32 asciilifeform there is probably already a custom hydraulic press on the market for puncturing 'ipads' and the like
13:33 FabianB ;;ticker --market all
13:33 asciilifeform with different punch settings for different brands
13:34 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 682.0, vol: 52866.12433201 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 658.0, vol: 31370.83532 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 679.99, vol: 40243.08080348 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 629.3236, vol: 14258.70400000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 663.98554, vol: 56.78902517 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 652.6025, vol: 346.6546334 | Volume-weighted last average: 670.529002883
13:34 BingoBoingo I kind of imagined an Ipad destruction machine would "fold" the thing over a few times before puncturing.
13:35 asciilifeform i have a dell laptop circa 2007 lying around in some box. it has a 'hammer here' target embossed on the bottom.
13:35 asciilifeform (near the hdd cavity)
13:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.00500008 = 2.5 BTC [-] {8}
13:36 asciilifeform military bureaucrats traditionally keep this simple.
13:36 the20year2 could always just blow it up
13:36 asciilifeform this was a machine with a deliberately non-standard (40mm?) mechanical drive
13:37 BingoBoingo Well, a hammer is usually the right tool for this kind of job
13:38 asciilifeform the point is, none of this is pushed by people concerned with actual security or whatnot
13:38 asciilifeform it's 100% revenue maximization
13:40 BingoBoingo OMG look what the Ripple shill and spyware guy said https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=498002.msg5485066#msg5485066
13:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 92 @ 0.005 = 0.46 BTC [-]
13:45 benkay BingoBoingo: impossibru
13:46 BingoBoingo Ya Rly
13:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.005 = 1.5 BTC [-]
13:51 benkay fuck you BingoBoingo i want my five minutes back
13:51 BingoBoingo benkay: You are welcome
13:51 benkay someone is sporting a foundation lifetime member badge in that thread
13:52 benkay fml
13:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 989 @ 0.00490001 = 4.8461 BTC [-] {2}
13:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 25 @ 0.00499999 = 0.125 BTC [+]
13:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] [PAID] 1.18344475 BTC to 13`595 shares, 8705 satoshi per share
14:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 4 @ 0.05900001 = 0.236 BTC [-] {2}
14:09 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: know what's sad? with all of the bitcoin phoundation's public goatfucking, the most commonly used client remains: the one put out by them, or whatever well-connected scammer picks up the torch.
14:10 asciilifeform at the moment, the idiots daren't take advantage of this fact
14:10 asciilifeform but at some point, they will
14:10 asciilifeform perhaps when qualified 'help' materializes.
14:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00085951 = 3.0942 BTC [+]
14:11 mod6 lol, goat-rapers
14:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1425 @ 0.000199 = 0.2836 BTC [-] {2}
14:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 3 @ 0.059 = 0.177 BTC [-] {2}
14:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 976 @ 0.0001901 = 0.1855 BTC [-] {2}
14:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21188 @ 0.00085954 = 18.2119 BTC [+] {2}
14:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2033 @ 0.00019 = 0.3863 BTC [-] {2}
14:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 777 @ 0.00019 = 0.1476 BTC [-] {3}
14:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 679 @ 0.00018909 = 0.1284 BTC [-] {3}
14:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5895 BTC [-]
14:29 kakobrekla well, i can still negrate, despite the ban. at least something.
14:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.5895 = 1.7685 BTC [-]
14:33 BingoBoingo I dunno if people really read the forum for things other than the neg ratings anyways
14:46 ThickAsThieves http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-03/former-central-banker-admits-they-are-making-it-they-go-along
14:46 ozbot Former Central Banker Admits "[They] Are Making It Up As They Go Along" | Zero Hedge
14:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00085883 = 10.1342 BTC [-] {2}
14:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 833 @ 0.00018283 = 0.1523 BTC [-] {5}
14:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.073 = 0.219 BTC [+]
14:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 577 @ 0.00518739 = 2.9931 BTC [+] {4}
14:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07299998 = 0.146 BTC [-]
15:05 copumpkin mircea_popescu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=j9cVWVcLU2w#t=351
15:06 BingoBoingo Why can't these news agencies specify timezones http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/russias-invasion-of-ukraine-march-3-live-updates-338232.html
15:07 copumpkin kyiv post
15:07 copumpkin I think we can tell what timezone they're talking about
15:07 copumpkin but yeah, I agree in general :P
15:08 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: since you seem to take an interest in the subject: http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2014/03/reichstag-fire-in-kiev.html
15:10 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Well my interest is largely due to http://bitbet.us/bet/769/crimea-2-electric-boogaloo/ which I hope to profit from on the "Yes" side by the arrival of Sradinian troops
15:11 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: betting on a proper, long-awaited nato vs. russian shooting war is great fun, but ww3 makes it a little hard to collect.
15:14 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: At the moment Bitbet seems the only real platform for hedging that risk which might deliver.
15:15 kakobrekla but bitbet is scam http://bitbet.us/bet/621/any-altcoin-will-surpass-litecoin-in-market-capitalization/#c2535
15:16 kakobrekla just ask reddit!
15:16 ThickAsThieves interesting
15:16 BingoBoingo kakobrekla: They forget that Bitbet and not Reddit is the court though.
15:17 ThickAsThieves so aurawracoin is already trading? before it's been distributed to every Icelandian?
15:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59 BTC [+]
15:17 ThickAsThieves which glorius exchange?
15:17 kakobrekla just you wait and see how fast people stop using this shit court.
15:18 BingoBoingo I wonder how much it costs people to retain this dude's services a'la med 20th century Boxing http://mlb.mlb.com/cutfour/index.jsp#contentId=68612078
15:19 ThickAsThieves .088btc for one AUR?!
15:19 BingoBoingo ThickAsThieves: Just like 0.032 BTC for a Novacoin!!!
15:20 ThickAsThieves i wish the bet was worded better though
15:20 BingoBoingo I February 2013
15:20 ThickAsThieves like must have 250BTC trades in a 30-day period
15:20 ThickAsThieves or whatever
15:21 ThickAsThieves it says "ends up"
15:21 ThickAsThieves wtf is that?
15:21 ThickAsThieves does it mean on that date of closure?
15:22 ThickAsThieves i guess thatd be the best way
15:22 kakobrekla it would imply so
15:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.0843275 = 0.7589 BTC [+] {2}
15:26 ThickAsThieves this twitter thing in no fun if no one responds
15:26 ThickAsThieves is
15:26 BingoBoingo ThickAsThieves: Who are you trying to engage?
15:26 ThickAsThieves scammers and shills
15:27 ThickAsThieves they so trollsilient
15:27 ThickAsThieves https://twitter.com/Bitcoin_Assets
15:27 ozbot Bitcoin Error Log (Bitcoin_Assets) on Twitter
15:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59 BTC [+]
15:32 BingoBoingo ThickAsThieves: Don't worry, they respond eventually.
15:33 BingoBoingo ThickAsThieves: You may also need to pick some better targets
15:37 ThickAsThieves suggestions?
15:39 BingoBoingo ThickAsThieves: Well you have to scope the people out a bit first and remember people like @maxkeister take the same approach to criticism Pirateat40 did, they ignore it.
15:40 ThickAsThieves meh too much work
15:40 deadweasel ^
15:41 BingoBoingo Like anything else the additional work is really very little when you know what to look for.
15:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5606 @ 0.00085998 = 4.821 BTC [+]
15:42 ThickAsThieves i take this very seriously
15:43 BingoBoingo ThickAsThieves: A nice first step is checking your feed for Maybe controversial tweets from people you follow. If there are a lot of responses call out some of the idiots.
15:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0424 = 0.1696 BTC [-]
15:44 ThickAsThieves that worked before i think
15:44 ThickAsThieves it's ok
15:44 ThickAsThieves i dont need acknowledgement from the targets though
15:44 ThickAsThieves i know they read it
15:44 ThickAsThieves and their heart hurts a little
15:45 mod6 troll those feeds!
15:45 Duffer1 pretty much anyone related to the bitcoin foundation or max keiser should provide you with ample work TaT
15:49 deadweasel what's the goal here, anyway?
15:49 ThickAsThieves no goal
15:49 ThickAsThieves just my first time twittering in any notable quantity
15:50 ThickAsThieves i'll probably bore of it in a couple weeks
15:51 ThickAsThieves i mean, to fix the world. that's my goal
15:51 ThickAsThieves by fix, i mean, make it what i think it should be at any given moment, ofc
15:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 163 @ 0.0055 = 0.8965 BTC
15:56 ThickAsThieves Ken Slaughter video http://www.news-leader.com/article/20140302/BUSINESS04/303020022/Bitcoin-Springfield-mining-machines-Slaughter
15:57 ThickAsThieves ;;genrate 7000
15:57 gribble The expected generation output, at 7000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 3815723798.81, is 0.000922589212592 BTC per day and 3.84412171913e-05 BTC per hour.
15:57 ThickAsThieves he says his avalons make $150/day
15:58 BingoBoingo ;;genrate 400000
15:58 gribble The expected generation output, at 400000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 3815723798.81, is 0.0527193835767 BTC per day and 0.00219664098236 BTC per hour.
15:59 ThickAsThieves "Well i called and talked to Ken today and he said Just Watch what happens in 3 weeks So i think that is the good news he is talking about, So i will wait the 3 weeks and reserve my judgement of everything till then"
16:01 ThickAsThieves The FCC has issued a $1.9 million fine against Viacom, NBC Universal, and ESPN for their promotions of 2013 action movie Olympus has Fallen. According to a filing, it started receiving complaints in March of 2013, when Viacom-owned Comedy Central aired a trailer containing the two-tone emergency signal. The trailer aired several more times on other channels over the following days, and
16:01 ThickAsThieves viewers weren't happy. "This is misleading and had our entire family running to the TV to find out what was going on, only to find it was a commercial," reads one complaint.
16:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 102 @ 0.0050004 = 0.51 BTC [-] {4}
16:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1498 @ 0.00500003 = 7.49 BTC [-] {3}
16:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 110 @ 0.005 = 0.55 BTC [-] {3}
16:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 20 @ 0.13311598 = 2.6623 BTC [-]
16:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61700 @ 0.00086145 = 53.1515 BTC [+] {4}
16:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.09099999 = 0.455 BTC [+]
~ 30 minutes ~
16:56 nubbins` ^ such a saucy quit msg :0
16:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 168 @ 0.00499839 = 0.8397 BTC [-] {5}
16:59 mircea_popescu Neil yah actually that article of yours is what my intel people hit me over the head with
16:59 mircea_popescu i remembered there's something amiss but didn't actually remember wtf it was so i ended up being all derpy about it.
17:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 24 @ 0.08916749 = 2.14 BTC [-] {3}
17:09 mircea_popescu Apocalyptic yeah, sorta what he could get.
17:10 mircea_popescu dexX7 yeah, they managed to lose their customer db a week or two ago. maybe that's all they lost, who's to know at this point.
17:10 cazalla reading the casinobitco.in feb report - if bitcoin price is lower, would it be right to assume people would be more bitcoin as it's worth less?
17:10 cazalla yet they seem to blame low price on less bets
17:11 cazalla and no - i did not buy any of this i just like to read what people are doing
17:11 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves on the other hand, i'd be fucking amazed if buffett is still around in 10 years
17:11 mircea_popescu let alone 20.
17:11 ThickAsThieves well that's how it happene dwith sdice
17:11 ThickAsThieves if it holds true it would be an indicator now that casinobit is dwindling
17:12 mircea_popescu cazalla if there's some such effect, it'd conceivably show slower than one month
17:12 jcpham dat gox shitshow
17:12 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Generally, advanced age can get people to go away
17:12 cazalla they are blaming lower volume on lower price but i would think vol would be higher with lower price
17:12 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo and before it does, it can get people to be unable to evaluate the future.
17:12 mircea_popescu o wow look at this, mpoe-pr forum heroin nao ?
17:13 mircea_popescu or how do you say, heroess ?
17:13 cazalla heroine?
17:13 jcpham mircea_popescu I told someone that MPOE-PR was light years ahead of mtgox the other day
17:13 cazalla heroiness?
17:13 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: I think now the trend is China White, or Heroine
17:13 jcpham pretty sure they agreed
17:13 kakobrekla cazalla got a link to that
17:13 mircea_popescu Neil when do you release such a wonder anyway ?
17:13 mike_c the guy is 83, he gets a pass. he has quite a track record of not being stupid.
17:14 cazalla kakobrekla: https://www.havelockinvestments.com/reportdownload.php?id=70 page 4
17:14 mircea_popescu mike_c he easily gets a pass from me too, he can say whatever the fuck he wants
17:14 mircea_popescu doesn't mean i'll agree with what he says tho
17:14 kakobrekla a pdf.
17:15 kakobrekla which includes google docs spreadsheet link.
17:15 mircea_popescu Neil at any rate, i wasn't saying there's something wron with the compilers, i said it depends how shit's implemented. basically, a write-out of "undefined"
17:15 kakobrekla why is the report not on facebook
17:15 mike_c which shows a complete lack of ability to run a sportsbook.
17:15 mircea_popescu kakobrekla because facebook is for porn
17:15 mircea_popescu o no wait.
17:16 mircea_popescu jurov wait, reddit deletes threads ?
17:17 mircea_popescu nah it's there, or at least i see it.
17:17 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Twitter is for porn http://deadspin.com/the-cardinals-are-very-embarrassed-by-carlos-martinezs-1530572369
17:18 mircea_popescu blergh.
17:18 mircea_popescu hopefully the idiot got told to get fucked by the team.
17:19 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Throws a baseball too good for that. Was told to just watch actual porn and skip the tweets
17:19 mircea_popescu not that idiot. the other idiot.
17:19 BingoBoingo Ah
17:19 mircea_popescu "Matheny told two reporters this morning that he spoke privately to Martinez and that he addressed the team again about their actions on social media this morning."
17:19 mircea_popescu matheny needs to be out of a job.
17:19 mircea_popescu this sort of irresponsible behaviour on his part is intolerable by a major.
17:20 mircea_popescu anyway, if i owned the cardinals he'd be fired.
17:20 BingoBoingo Problem is he is too good as well, at being grumpy and old.
17:20 mircea_popescu fuck him.
17:20 mircea_popescu you don't like porn, you don't get to work.
17:20 mircea_popescu queue at the soup kitchen.
17:20 BingoBoingo Well, when BTC tops $10,000 Maybe buy the Cardinals? Play at MPEx stadium?
17:20 benkay http://bitbet.us/bet/621/any-altcoin-will-surpass-litecoin-in-market-capitalization/
17:20 ozbot BitBet - Any altcoin will surpass Litecoin in market capitalization
17:21 benkay mircea_popescu: u gon have a headache with that one
17:21 mircea_popescu i'd rather buy something cool.
17:21 mircea_popescu benkay tell me about it.
17:21 benkay the "any coin" clause
17:21 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Make it a troll buy around $100k/BTC Matheny will prolly still be there by then.
17:22 mircea_popescu ;;google how much did the cardinals cost last time
17:22 gribble St. Louis Cardinals - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Louis_Cardinals>; Red Sox World Series Tickets 81% Higher Than Cardinals ... - Forbes: <http://www.forbes.com/sites/jesselawrence/2013/10/20/red-sox-world-series-tickets-81-higher-than-cardinals-tickets-for-fall-classic/>; St Louis Cardinals on the Forbes MLB Team Valuations List: (1 more message)
17:22 mircea_popescu meh
17:23 mircea_popescu mike_c i have no idea dood, i went to bed fully expecting to see it way lower. i come back... it's gone from 86-87 to what, 84ish
17:23 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: $150 million in 1995
17:24 mircea_popescu owch. even at $100k / btc, it'll prolly be 10k btcs or some shit. seems excessive.
17:24 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: You forget that whol 'Murica collapsing part.
17:26 mircea_popescu copumpkin can i get a summary ? i just fucking banned youtube.
17:26 BingoBoingo 100k/BTC might be as forgetable a milestone as silver parity
17:26 copumpkin mircea_popescu: the pope saying "cazzo"
17:26 copumpkin during an address
17:26 mircea_popescu haha
17:26 mircea_popescu wait
17:26 mircea_popescu isn't hte pope argentine ?!
17:26 mircea_popescu he cusses in italian ?!
17:26 copumpkin yeah, giving a speech in italian
17:27 copumpkin it was a mistake, he was trying to say "caso"
17:27 copumpkin :P
17:27 mircea_popescu holy perra hermano!
17:27 copumpkin but it was unambiguously cazzo
17:27 mircea_popescu o i c
17:29 mircea_popescu til : spanish is quite well gender balanced :
17:29 mircea_popescu Then I touched her cunt.
17:29 mircea_popescu Entonces le toqué la concha.
17:29 mircea_popescu Entonces le toqué el mico.
17:29 mircea_popescu Entonces le toque el coño.
17:29 mircea_popescu Entonces le toque la panocha.
17:29 mircea_popescu two masculine cunts, two feminine cunts.
17:29 mircea_popescu jic.
17:30 mircea_popescu lmao ken slaughter says THREE weeks ?
17:30 mircea_popescu scam.
17:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 137 @ 0.00495005 = 0.6782 BTC [-]
17:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 20 @ 0.00648 = 0.1296 BTC [+] {2}
17:35 Duffer1 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=462370.msg5480240#msg5480240
17:35 ozbot [ActiveMining] Official Shareholder Discussion Thread [Moderated]
17:36 BingoBoingo http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2014/03/03/kennesaw-state-orders-museum-remove-are-racist-past-woman-whose-land-was-given#.UxR6DSFZPmM.twitter
17:36 ozbot Kennesaw State orders museum to remove are on racist past of woman whose land was given to universit
17:36 Duffer1 common B-A injuries: severe bruising from facepalm repetition, permanent eyeroll syndrome
17:37 mircea_popescu wait women are a race ?
17:37 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Maybe to aspies?
17:38 mircea_popescu "Out of this cesspool of vice rises that hideous monster, a possible menace to every home in the South. He has the savage nature and murderous instincts of the wild beast, plus the cunning and lust of a fiend."
17:38 mircea_popescu ouch.
17:39 asciilifeform took a break from my usual doings, wrote psot:
17:39 asciilifeform http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1446
17:39 mircea_popescu "But her legacy has always been tarnished by the racist views that launched her career." / "but we've never managed to cope with the fact that people in the past did not think very much of the stereotypes we today hold dear"
17:39 ozbot Loper OS » Modern Chumpatronic Engineering.
17:39 mircea_popescu omgspam
17:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18552 @ 0.00085969 = 15.949 BTC [-]
17:39 BingoBoingo Ban SPAM!!!
17:41 kakobrekla sorry about that.
17:41 BingoBoingo Is Diablo-D3 still banned?
17:41 kakobrekla no
17:42 mircea_popescu is anyone still banned ?
17:42 kakobrekla no
17:42 mircea_popescu are you married ?
17:42 kakobrekla no
17:42 mircea_popescu do you mind if we keep asking you questions until you answer yes ?
17:42 kakobrekla no
17:43 mircea_popescu did you ever have sex with an eskimo and/or navy seal ?
17:43 kakobrekla no
17:43 mircea_popescu anything good on tv ?
17:43 kakobrekla no
17:43 mircea_popescu did you write a script for this yet ?
17:43 kakobrekla no
17:44 mircea_popescu did you accept jesus in your heart and other cavities ?
17:44 kakobrekla well, not at the same time.
17:44 mircea_popescu lol
17:44 mircea_popescu aite, i'm satisfied.
17:44 kakobrekla k
17:45 wao-ender lul http://blog.magicaltux.net/2010/06/27/php-can-do-anything-what-about-some-ssh/
17:55 BingoBoingo Texas since #BitcoinTexas is a hashtag http://gawker.com/family-that-gets-arrested-for-meth-together-makes-out-i-1535467958
17:55 mircea_popescu ahaha
17:56 mircea_popescu wait, so siblings may not kiss in the us ?!
17:57 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Generally not
17:57 mircea_popescu uh.
17:57 mircea_popescu fucking weird country that.
17:57 wao-ender indeed.
17:57 wao-ender such normal in Europe.
17:57 mircea_popescu She said the two had been living in a motel with her 2-year-old twin daughters
17:57 BingoBoingo Arised because another TwoBitIdiot like account https://twitter.com/ryanxcharles raised the issue of a Bitcoin Texas nonference
17:57 mircea_popescu dude wtf, living in a motel ? what's that, like 50 bucks a night?
17:58 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Depends on the motel, could go as low as $50 a week if the interstate is too fat.
17:58 BingoBoingo or far
17:58 mircea_popescu "How many incestuous half siblings does it take to screw in a lightbulb? You do the meth." << ahaha
17:58 mircea_popescu gawker comments way better than gawker
17:58 BingoBoingo For sure. Like Slashdot, or Ars.
18:00 mircea_popescu "wow! this website is a scam, can we get a link to reddit and bitcointalk.org protest time!"
18:00 mircea_popescu kakobrekla what the fuck are we doing with that retarded altcoin bet.
18:00 kakobrekla kill all humans.
18:01 BingoBoingo Flip a coin?
18:01 BingoBoingo Preferably on of thickastheives's altcoins?
18:01 mircea_popescu no but srsly.
18:02 wao-ender I like it
18:02 wao-ender huge pot in
18:02 kakobrekla first of all
18:02 kakobrekla what does "ends up" zactly mean
18:02 mircea_popescu first of all i'm banning that retarded site, it's a signal about as good as pissing in the snow.
18:03 wao-ender :D
18:03 mircea_popescu http://coinmarketcap.com/ bs.
18:03 ozbot Crypto-Currency Market Capitalizations | Bitcoin Ripple Auroracoin Litecoin Peercoin Dogecoin Nxt Ma
18:03 wao-ender I like art in snow.
18:03 wao-ender with piss
18:03 mircea_popescu kakobrekla it's... ambiguous
18:03 mircea_popescu 0.o
18:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0432 = 0.1728 BTC [+]
18:05 kakobrekla even more interesting is
18:06 kakobrekla that the bet does not exclude ripple
18:06 mircea_popescu ripple is not a coin tho
18:06 benkay what is a coin?
18:06 kakobrekla who am i?
18:06 mircea_popescu gotta have a blockchain at a minimum neh ?
18:06 kakobrekla they have some sort of blockchain
18:06 mircea_popescu i mean otherwise what, facebook is a coin
18:07 wao-ender it isn't ?!
18:07 mircea_popescu mk ima go take a coinpiss and brb
18:07 kakobrekla im selling all my facebucks then.
18:07 wao-ender use buttcoins only please.
18:08 mircea_popescu no but srsly, i have a serious problem just giving 15 btc to some dorks who went and did what basically ?
18:08 mircea_popescu aurora coin has nothing, atc is more fleshed out than it.
18:08 mircea_popescu "we are going to help iceland"
18:08 mircea_popescu it's not even fucking legal to trade btc in iceland.
18:08 kakobrekla but at the end of the day its what the bet sez and what you can prove not what the truth is.
18:08 wao-ender yeah
18:09 wao-ender but aur doubled, nice pump & dump
18:09 benkay it /is/ a coin.
18:09 kakobrekla bitfury was such example.
18:09 benkay just like atc and ltc and dgc
18:09 mircea_popescu kakobrekla this is also true
18:09 mircea_popescu "#2551 5,638 BTC volume."
18:09 mircea_popescu where is it even listed ?
18:10 kakobrekla i was wondering myself
18:10 kakobrekla didnt find it
18:10 decimation asciilifeform your blog post is good. I think the root of the issue (the reason why chumps bow prostrate to their masters) is that the chumps fail to distinguish fantasy from reality
18:10 decimation a trustworth bitcoin exchange should exist, this is an exchange, therefore it is trustworthy?
18:10 mike_c mircea_popescu: it at least makes me feel better that you were surprised too.
18:11 kakobrekla it could be the guys set up something nonpublic and gave the guy the feed
18:11 mircea_popescu decimation you ever read that grand tlp piece re trading ?
18:11 kakobrekla now they just herp derp there
18:11 kakobrekla while everyone is scratching heads
18:11 decimation not sure, possibly
18:11 mircea_popescu mike_c i capitulated re s.mpoe price making any sense like a year ago
18:12 mircea_popescu i dun claim to understand it. maybe better minds later on.
18:13 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=498522.0;all
18:13 ozbot MtGox source code leaked ...
18:13 mircea_popescu o hey look at that.
18:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.08916021 = 0.4458 BTC [-] {3}
18:14 joecool posting this so nobody loses sleep
18:14 joecool <MagicalTux> [07:10:14] <joecool> MagicalTux: kalyhost going to continue operations? <- that's the plan
18:14 mircea_popescu "Does Deutsche Bank use php? Does HSBC use fucking MYSQL??? Do any of those banks comment out lines in production code for debugging?!?!?!?"
18:14 mircea_popescu i suspek forum noobs would be mighty surprised.
18:15 decimation I would be shocked if they didn't
18:15 joecool probably all asp, the pinnacle of security
18:15 wao-ender no, fortran!
18:15 mircea_popescu joecool anyone use them other than forum ?
18:15 mike_c bank software is probably terrible. i highly doubt they have good programmers.
18:15 mircea_popescu anyway, commented out lines in production software are more common than web designers.
18:15 joecool mike_c: windows server 2003 is stable ok?
18:16 mircea_popescu heck, linux kernel has commented out lines
18:16 mircea_popescu (or at least had, i'm not really following)
18:16 joecool mircea_popescu: still does, i need to see how many uses of "fuck" they still have in source
18:16 mike_c commented out lines are pretty bad (or at least a pet peeve). that's what source control is for.
18:16 joecool used to have a tracker for that
18:16 decimation what's wrong with commenting out lines of code? they are crumbs for students
18:17 mike_c what's wrong is they make the code less readable, thereby making it harder for the 2nd programmer who has to touch the code.
18:17 joecool mostly scheduler stuff, because nobody can make up mind how how to schedule tasks for 64k cpu's vs. a typical desktop
18:17 kakobrekla i dont think forum is still on kalyhost
18:17 mircea_popescu joecool > 42
18:17 kakobrekla joecool well, he thought and say same for gox.
18:17 joecool kakobrekla: well its ok though, MT says kalyhost is staying in operation
18:18 joecool we have to believe him
18:18 mircea_popescu mike_c pet or nonpet, fact.
18:18 Bugpowder mircea_popescu: who cares about source code
18:18 Bugpowder 20GB of user docs leacked
18:18 kakobrekla am i the only one so retarded to read the footer of the forum
18:18 kakobrekla >Sponsored by Private Internet Access, a Bitcoin-accepting VPN.
18:18 mircea_popescu a ok
18:18 mircea_popescu wait vpn ?
18:18 mircea_popescu forum is on virtual hosting ?
18:19 kakobrekla vpn is not vps
18:19 mircea_popescu i guess that's kind-of impressing actually.
18:19 mircea_popescu o
18:19 kakobrekla but afaik they host them
18:19 mircea_popescu yeah my blind.
18:19 mircea_popescu Bugpowder this is re the very concerning leak at mtgox,
18:19 mircea_popescu in that ~20gb worth of idiots' passport scans are now in the wild.
18:19 Bugpowder yeah.... GOD DAMN IT
18:19 mircea_popescu these are EXTREMELY vulnerable people, because most of them have either forced their bank to accept "weird" txs
18:20 mircea_popescu or even signed ok's for "weird" txs.
18:20 mircea_popescu getting out of an identity theft mess will be a royal pain in the loins
18:20 Bugpowder http://pastebin.com/N7B5DC4d
18:20 ozbot Goxed - Pastebin.com
18:20 Bugpowder My friends are not happy
18:20 Bugpowder nor am I
18:20 mircea_popescu i can' read all that. exec summary ?
18:21 Bugpowder just find nanashi and read all his comments
18:21 mircea_popescu a ok
18:21 Bugpowder he didn't hack it
18:21 Bugpowder they may release a torrent
18:21 Bugpowder they say no personal info released of users
18:21 Bugpowder they won't release personal info
18:22 Bugpowder (probably they will sell that instead of leak it :(
18:22 Bugpowder That motherfuckering tool.
18:22 mircea_popescu derp.
18:22 mircea_popescu Bugpowder ya well who toldja to use gox.
18:22 Bugpowder You said OTC
18:22 TATrilllaInTehMi I think u gotta take 'ends up' as 'when this bet closes'
18:23 Bugpowder little did I expect OTC to be the SAFE routh
18:23 Bugpowder route
18:24 mircea_popescu yeah well.
18:24 decimation well, at the very least with OTC damage is limited and healing
18:24 mircea_popescu ^
18:24 Bugpowder The user data all stored in mySQL
18:24 mircea_popescu this is what strategic soundness is
18:25 Bugpowder Dude was more concerned with putting a frappachino cafe in his own fucking building than using svn.
18:25 mircea_popescu course, it IS possible the leaked thing is not actually their code.
18:25 asciilifeform http://pastebin.com/2QvBdNea
18:25 ozbot NameHomeMobilePersonal EmailEmergency ContactEmergency Number Adam Turner - Pastebin.com
18:25 asciilifeform karpeles had a wife?
18:25 mircea_popescu "I think what concerns me more than anything is that they're rounding some of their values."
18:25 mircea_popescu wow.
18:26 mircea_popescu asciilifeform https://picasaweb.google.com/100317866314689750892/ProfilePhotos
18:27 mircea_popescu lol o look, twitter beleeted, picasa beleeted, aww.
18:27 asciilifeform was something there?
18:27 Bugpowder borked
18:27 asciilifeform empty now.
18:27 kakobrekla maybe its his cat.
18:28 Bugpowder Apple Pie?
18:28 mircea_popescu kinda fun that everyone was acutally fucking japanese girls.
18:28 mircea_popescu imagine these kids, you know ? buncha weaboos start card trading website
18:28 mircea_popescu end up affording to move to japan and pork lolis all dai
18:28 mircea_popescu talk about living the dream.
18:28 asciilifeform well, 'first ecstasy, then laundry.'
18:29 TATrilllaInTehMi is the fill fox DB in the wild yet?
18:29 TATrilllaInTehMi full
18:29 decimation they never did the laundry apparently
18:29 mircea_popescu TATrilllaInTehMi afawk.
18:30 ivet can anyone direct me to a good irc channel for bitstamp trading?
18:30 TATrilllaInTehMi afawk=dunno?
18:30 BingoBoingo ivet: Maybe get a cloak first?
18:30 mircea_popescu as far as we know
18:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.07727271 = 0.85 BTC [-] {6}
18:30 mircea_popescu does #bitstamp exist ?
18:30 TATrilllaInTehMi I know
18:31 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=498002.msg5492674#msg5492674 << check out karpeles' sock doing damage control.
18:31 ozbot Calling out the Bitcoin Foundation Scam.
18:31 mircea_popescu such noobs, le wow.
18:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18600 @ 0.00085761 = 15.9515 BTC [-] {2}
18:31 BingoBoingo Oh, moar anti-porn n00bs http://deadspin.com/which-knbr-employee-is-downloading-huge-amounts-of-porn-1535336358
18:32 kakobrekla bitstamp tard came spamming re bitstamp back in 2012 or what was it, to such extent that he got a k-line
18:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 400 @ 0.00494475 = 1.9779 BTC [-] {4}
18:36 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all
18:36 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 680.0, vol: 65736.15109940 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 643.2, vol: 41149.86071 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 680.0, vol: 49700.76269936 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 644.809386, vol: 16392.57100000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 670.89335, vol: 67.80058344 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 663.4488, vol: 419.40543934 | Volume-weighted last average: 667.901191362
18:36 kakobrekla >Dj Dope
18:36 kakobrekla 12:32 AM (3 minutes ago) > hey guys can you resolve this as a yes, aurora already almost doubled and everyone else agrees? thanx
18:36 BingoBoingo Looks like BTC has serious drama support this week
18:36 kakobrekla ....
18:37 kakobrekla mp everyone else agrees.
18:37 kakobrekla that has to be THE merit.
18:37 kakobrekla what u say eh
18:37 ThickAsThieves i left a disagree
18:38 mircea_popescu kakobrekla yes everyone agrees, let's send the winners to gox.
18:39 BingoBoingo https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=339544.msg5491951#msg5491951
18:39 ozbot BitBet Stole ~$7,000 from me (10 BTC)
18:39 mircea_popescu i dunno, to me this entire shit looks like a transparent attempt of the quoted site to made 10 btc or w/e.
18:39 mircea_popescu the entire auroracoin thing looks like it cost less than what the bet would bring in.
18:39 BingoBoingo So verdict is "Yes" everyone gets beta access to Gox 2 Electric Bugabear
18:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00085703 = 3.9423 BTC [-] {2}
18:40 mircea_popescu no but seriously, anyone got a link to any place auroracoin thing is actually traded ?
18:41 ThickAsThieves add to the FAQ: In a circumstance where an accepted bet is determined to have unreliable determining factors, BitBet shall choose factors as best it can, or refund all bets at its own discretion.
18:41 BingoBoingo Refund everybody minus fee? "Poorly spec's BitBEt Med getting whipped"
18:41 ThickAsThieves www.cryptsy.com
18:41 ThickAsThieves https://www.cryptsy.com/markets/view/160
18:41 ozbot Cryptsy - AUR/BTC Market
18:42 mircea_popescu eh get the fuck out, cryptsy never saw 1k btc in its entire existence
18:42 ThickAsThieves surely it has
18:42 ThickAsThieves but i still agree
18:42 ThickAsThieves this is way fishy
18:42 ThickAsThieves and a scam
18:42 BingoBoingo It is a lesson in forcing better specs
18:43 ThickAsThieves should probably just refund everyone
18:43 mircea_popescu i dunno, i can't ok this. i mean i couldn't care less either way, it's bettors' btc on either side of the bet.
18:43 ThickAsThieves i have a bet in there
18:43 mircea_popescu but for the love of the sanctity of marriage...
18:44 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves i can't fucking push it either, it's a legitimate contention.
18:44 BingoBoingo I mean scamcoin tricks suggest forcing people to either spec better signals or kill MPOE bot
18:44 kakobrekla firstly, how will you handle 'ends up' ?
18:44 kakobrekla was there an answer to this
18:44 ThickAsThieves if it's legitimate it was from day 1
18:45 ThickAsThieves Yes
18:45 ThickAsThieves i think 'ends up' is important to define
18:45 kakobrekla secondly, it doesnt specify if it has to be minable/premined or to which extent that can be
18:45 BingoBoingo This might be a good time to suggest a BitBet, "Bitbet to not accept further Altcoin Marketcap bets in 2014"
18:45 ThickAsThieves 'ends' has a menaing after all
18:46 mircea_popescu kakobrekla nope
18:46 ThickAsThieves precedent at bitbet is to say 'above x rate at any time, or by a specific time' etc
18:46 mircea_popescu kakobrekla well it specifies "coin"
18:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 806 @ 0.00480085 = 3.8695 BTC [-] {3}
18:47 ThickAsThieves it specifies 'altcoin'
18:47 mircea_popescu aite.
18:47 ThickAsThieves in the headline at least
18:47 mircea_popescu most fucked up bet of 2013 award
18:47 ThickAsThieves hmm
18:47 ThickAsThieves where is AUR blockchain viewable?
18:47 mircea_popescu the sad irony of it all beinbg that i hazily recall mod asking me if i see a problem and me saying no.
18:47 ThickAsThieves can coins in circulation be confirmed?
18:47 mircea_popescu i guess i was right... it's not that there's A problem.
18:48 BingoBoingo Nah, most fucked up might get litigated around 12 UTC
18:48 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves i guess if someone can be bothered to install their wallet.
18:48 ThickAsThieves i'm not icelandic
18:48 ThickAsThieves :)
18:48 mircea_popescu maybe we should just crash it.
18:48 BingoBoingo x-bt doesn't trade it though
18:48 mircea_popescu "bitbet resolves dubious bet by crashing dubious altscam into the ground"
18:50 ThickAsThieves what websites has bitbet allowed as proof in the past?
18:50 ThickAsThieves btc-e
18:50 ThickAsThieves any others?
18:50 mircea_popescu asciilifeform for he record, Лохотрон is way better than "Chumpatron"
18:50 kakobrekla ThickAsThieves lots.
18:50 mircea_popescu bitcoincharts
18:50 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: but of course.
18:50 mircea_popescu blockchain
18:51 ThickAsThieves those dont have alts
18:51 ThickAsThieves sry
18:51 mircea_popescu well you askd
18:51 ThickAsThieves i meant for altcoin bets
18:51 mircea_popescu not really many alt bets allowed till recently.
18:51 asciilifeform 'you go to war with' the pidgin you have, not the literary language you wish you had...
18:51 mircea_popescu yeah.
18:52 mircea_popescu also i think tpoh does not even nearly map on the english tron
18:52 mircea_popescu which is more like... half of the tron troff pair than anything
18:52 BingoBoingo Fuck, Imma have to learn Russian by June aren't I
18:53 ThickAsThieves how about i tell which side i bet on and you just resolve it to that?
18:53 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: by april!
18:53 ThickAsThieves as good a criteria as any here !
18:53 mircea_popescu "russian by june" sounds like a good book
18:53 mircea_popescu provided june is a hawt ukrainian blondy
18:53 nubbins` ^
18:53 ThickAsThieves Only Fools Russian
18:53 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: If they come this fast I live way to close to a trascom outpost.
18:53 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves i imagine you're on the no side
18:53 nubbins` :o
18:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 20 @ 0.04242 = 0.8484 BTC [-] {2}
18:54 ThickAsThieves i wont tell you, otherwise Scam accusations
18:54 kakobrekla it cant resolve as no yet
18:55 asciilifeform once met a military type (american) who knew just one russian phrase, but knew it very well: 'don't shoot - i know secrets'
18:55 mircea_popescu jhahaha
18:55 ThickAsThieves nice
18:55 mircea_popescu good phrase to know.
18:56 mircea_popescu https://www.google.com/search?q=%D0%BD%D0%B5+%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BB%D1%8F%D0%B9%D1%82%D0%B5+-+%D1%8F+%D0%B7%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8E+%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%B5%D1%82%D1%8B&complete=0
18:57 BingoBoingo I've been learning in the wrong direction then. My first phrase was "Fuck your mother горничная"
18:57 copumpkin mircea_popescu: did that key work?
18:57 mircea_popescu copumpkin yeah. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-03-2014#541337
18:58 copumpkin oh, sorry, must've been offline or mentally impaired
18:58 copumpkin thanks!
18:58 mircea_popescu have fun
18:58 * copumpkin tries his magic stat
18:59 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: If you want a lower stakes pro sports team https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frontier_Greys is probably available for under 300 BTC and... No facilities to maintain
19:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23950 @ 0.00085861 = 20.5637 BTC [+]
19:00 mircea_popescu or alternatively i could hire twenty cocksucking "masseuses" for like 12 btc a season and have the porniest pro sports team in da werld
19:01 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: one of these days, you ought to write 'n00b guide' to sports bets. for instance, i grew up thinking of the whole concept as a chumpatron (lusers bet, the sports meisters throw matches & pocket the chumpatronium)
19:01 peterl didnt the "lingerie leauge" or whatever they call it try that?
19:01 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Well, Sauget Illinois is pretty much strip clubs and nothing else
19:01 mircea_popescu asciilifeform no, you're exactly correct,
19:01 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: That actually isn't far from the truth
19:01 copumpkin mircea_popescu: whee, it works!!!!!
19:01 mircea_popescu line betting is essentially someone getting in between bitbet and the luser, offering "services" and other customer supports.
19:02 mircea_popescu copumpkin wd!
19:02 asciilifeform ahahaa
19:02 mircea_popescu asciilifeform and i don't mean this stylistically. it is factually and quite mathematically exact.
19:02 copumpkin what are these strange cxbtc things I have
19:02 mircea_popescu copumpkin well if you had smpoe and didn't log in for a year you prolly got a buncha divs and whatnot
19:02 copumpkin oh sweet
19:02 mircea_popescu kinda how finance works.
19:03 copumpkin MPOE is by far the best investment I've ever made if you count how much I paid for it and how much it has grown and BTC has grown
19:03 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: SPorts betting at its essence boild down to finding players and ownership groups with such animosity towards one another that throwing the game isn't and option.
19:03 copumpkin investment/gamble :P
19:03 mircea_popescu so good for you.
19:03 copumpkin better for you :)
19:03 mircea_popescu i'm sure you can find a buncha daytrading lokhs that know way better.
19:03 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: seems like a serious amount of work to do, simply in order to make a fair gamble.
19:03 copumpkin lol
19:04 mircea_popescu "so far my best investment was, buy some mpex stocks and not logging in for a year"
19:04 mircea_popescu sounds like fightin' words in forum land.
19:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 20 @ 0.0424 = 0.848 BTC [-]
19:04 copumpkin mircea_popescu: oh, I'm an index fund kinda guy, and I scoff at daytraders
19:04 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: remember my 'test drive' of mpex? that's all i did...
19:04 * copumpkin scoffs at daytraders
19:05 mircea_popescu what do we know.
19:05 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: It can be. While winning a bet is the best outcome, the best expectable outcome is betting on a game that provides a decent "sweat"
19:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12650 @ 0.00085885 = 10.8645 BTC [+]
19:05 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: this is an interesting point
19:05 mircea_popescu anyway, this is a quite legitimate business endeavour. mpex is designed so that people can make their own brokerages and serve demographics on top of it.
19:05 mircea_popescu bitbet is so made that people can run their own line books backed on it
19:05 mircea_popescu etc.
19:06 mircea_popescu growth enabling strategy.
19:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.59909839 = 2.9955 BTC [+] {4}
19:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00479 = 0.479 BTC [-]
19:06 mircea_popescu course, this shit takes professionalism (of the actual kind), so there's not that much being done so far.
19:06 peterl copumkin: great way to invest if you have the patience to not get in your own way
19:06 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: The nature of how baseball works lends a lot of games to beign interesting sweats. Less so with hockey, still far less with Handegg, and almost never does an interesting sweat come from basketball.
19:07 mircea_popescu why is this ?
19:07 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: because of some intrinsic fact about the games? or mere historical happenstance?
19:07 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Intrinsic facts in this ordering.
19:07 mircea_popescu do tell ?
19:08 BingoBoingo Baseball's offense is based on an action that at best succeeds 1/3 of the time.
19:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 33 @ 0.0056745 = 0.1873 BTC [+] {2}
19:08 BingoBoingo Hockey similarly relys on accidental scoring.
19:08 BingoBoingo With Handegg, generally there is a better team and that team wins.
19:08 mircea_popescu so this makes them better sweats ?
19:09 mircea_popescu ah cause randomness ?
19:09 BingoBoingo With basketball pointshaving is a thing.
19:09 mircea_popescu ;;google pointshaving
19:09 gribble Point shaving - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_shaving>; Jo (pointshaving) on Twitter: <https://twitter.com/pointshaving>; What is Point Shaving? - Basketball - About.com: <http://basketball.about.com/od/collegebasketballglossary/g/point-shaving.htm>
19:09 ThickAsThieves by sweat you mean suspense?
19:09 peterl I seem to remember reading that good baseball teams lose to bad teams more often than good basketball teams lose to bad teams
19:09 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Yeah. Randomness makes more Interesting bets.
19:09 BingoBoingo ThickAsThieves: Exactly
19:09 BingoBoingo Even the Miami Marlins win some games
19:09 mircea_popescu oh i see
19:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 26 @ 0.02142205 = 0.557 BTC [+] {3}
19:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 735 @ 0.00475315 = 3.4936 BTC [-] {12}
19:10 BingoBoingo Bets are not investments
19:10 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo amusingly, i just rewatched every given sunday earlier
19:10 mircea_popescu miami... sharks was it ?
19:10 kakobrekla <BingoBoingo> mircea_popescu: Yeah. Randomness makes more Interesting bets. < that explains the just dice!
19:10 nubbins` ^ heh
19:11 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: In the movie. IRL the dolphins at that level.
19:11 BingoBoingo kakobrekla: The difference is dice players aren't patient enough to wait two hours to find out how they rolled.
19:12 mircea_popescu " According to the 1999 Gambling Impact Study, an estimated $80 billion to $380 billion was illegally bet each year on sporting events in the United States. This estimate dwarfed the $2.5 billion legally bet each year in Nevada"
19:12 mircea_popescu heh
19:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 125 @ 0.00469999 = 0.5875 BTC [-] {2}
19:12 ThickAsThieves "The CEO of Reddit has personally gone to bitcointalk to warn users to not invest in an IPO coin "Redditcoin" and warn they will take action if it is released."
19:12 ThickAsThieves take action how?
19:12 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Well, Nevada has no professional teams
19:12 kakobrekla coingen it tat
19:13 asciilifeform ThickAsThieves: imagine if technology were possible! he could simply whisper 'this turd will not bear my pgp signature' and be done.
19:13 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves sue, basically.
19:13 mircea_popescu asciilifeform that technology would basically be... imagine if poor people had no money.
19:13 mircea_popescu that's all the needed technology.
19:13 ThickAsThieves shit the last thing i need is reddit after me
19:13 ThickAsThieves i dont have enough firsts or walls
19:14 ThickAsThieves fists*
19:14 asciilifeform i mean, it is a deep mystery to me why it should ever remain in doubt whether 'X endorses Y'
19:14 asciilifeform given that we have public key crypto
19:14 mircea_popescu asciilifeform "It is of negative survival value in the context of financial collapse." << this is strictly untrue.
19:14 mircea_popescu trustfulness is actually always positive, and much more so in stressed environments.
19:15 ThickAsThieves so there's some kinda chatter about some bitcoin news tomorrow
19:15 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: only as 'part of a balanced diet!' with a working 'Friend Or Foe' detector.
19:15 ThickAsThieves could explain the rally
19:15 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves just ver & co trying to wash the foundation thing.
19:15 kakobrekla how ?
19:15 mircea_popescu asciilifeform no, i mean this. gedank :
19:16 ThickAsThieves https://twitter.com/niccary/status/440598582551674880
19:16 ozbot Twitter / niccary: This is going to be an exciting ...
19:16 mircea_popescu two sets of chumps, separated by semipermeable membrane. on left, trustfull, on right untrustful chumps.
19:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1774 @ 0.00460426 = 8.168 BTC [-] {7}
19:16 kakobrekla maybe its theseckritbitcoinproject.io
19:16 mircea_popescu simple minded sociopaths arise in both compartments with the same, god dictated frequency.
19:16 mircea_popescu sociopath on trustful side easily and frictionlessly builds army, wipes other side.
19:16 ThickAsThieves lol
19:16 mike_c haha. from that twitter page: "@niccary @marketmakers @Bloomberg @blockchain did the price of #bitcoin go up as to insider trading?"
19:17 mircea_popescu sociopath on trustless side wastes all his time being paul fucking atreides, wasting his time fighting the freemen leaders.
19:17 mike_c insider trading on bitcoin!!
19:17 mike_c moar regulations please
19:17 BingoBoingo ;;nigger --market all
19:17 gribble Error: "nigger" is not a valid command.
19:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 50 @ 0.02216199 = 1.1081 BTC [+] {3}
19:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.5801 = 1.1602 BTC [-] {2}
19:17 BingoBoingo Srry
19:17 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all
19:17 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 673.26, vol: 64724.23883599 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 641.724, vol: 40894.4983 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 670.5, vol: 50996.06328152 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 641.018476, vol: 16685.66700000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 666.9435, vol: 67.8440946 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 671.50415, vol: 431.73359996 | Volume-weighted last average: 661.927690152
19:18 ThickAsThieves http://texasbitcoinconference.com/hackathon
19:18 ozbot Texas Bitcoin Conference - Hackathon
19:18 ThickAsThieves surely someone here can nab that $1m
19:18 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: this is correct, depending on the playing field. not everyone is inclined to build armies, though - some folks just want to kill & eat their neighbors.
19:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 19 @ 0.00567493 = 0.1078 BTC [+]
19:18 mircea_popescu asciilifeform but it is not actually sociopathic to kill the trustful.
19:18 ThickAsThieves "Up to 49% of your team can be remote."
19:18 mircea_popescu basically, the story here is that statistically, the trustfull will fare better.
19:19 mircea_popescu for that matter, the strategy of the woman that goes "i like you, fuck me please" actually beats into shit the strategy of the woman that plays the aloof wallflower.
19:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 13 @ 0.02219999 = 0.2886 BTC [+] {2}
19:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22950 @ 0.00085885 = 19.7106 BTC [+]
19:19 mircea_popescu as counterintuitive and mother-in-law-wisdom contradictory this may seem.
19:19 cazalla wonder if gox actually deleted account and personal details as they said they would after 90 days (from memory i was 90)
19:19 asciilifeform my first imagined picture, when reading mr. o's bit, was the demise of the dodo bird.
19:19 mike_c cazalla: do you really wonder?
19:19 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: ебать его
19:20 BingoBoingo I will write this n00b guide to sports bets
19:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00459999 = 0.92 BTC [-] {2}
19:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.00567494 = 0.1702 BTC [+]
19:20 mircea_popescu asciilifeform but a dodo is not a chump.
19:20 BingoBoingo And in the process teach people how to only lose 30% pr year
19:21 mircea_popescu your own definition includes free will.
19:21 ThickAsThieves "Iceland’s Auroracoin Passes Litecoin, Becomes Third Largest Altcoin by Market Cap" coindesk...
19:21 asciilifeform well, the animal is often described as having had an... inadequate reaction to predators, having lives as it did without them
19:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 51 @ 0.00459 = 0.2341 BTC [-] {2}
19:22 ThickAsThieves enky says "Auroracoin is premined, it doesnt make sense to look the marketcap"
19:22 mircea_popescu asciilifeform that part is true. but it was not capable of useful work.
19:22 mircea_popescu compare for better results the fate of various subhuman tribes encountered by europeans.
19:22 mircea_popescu the ones that failed to suck cock rapidly, eagerly and well are now extinct.
19:23 asciilifeform i do wonder what, if anything, has been heard of the Yanomami indians since that time when traders supplied them with shotguns...
19:24 mircea_popescu aztecs made hernan cortes king. aztecs still exist today. sioux though it proper to oppose. sioux are gone.
19:24 BingoBoingo Well in that case the ones who never encountered small pox before are equally extinct.
19:24 copumpkin mircea_popescu: didn't you have something about popescuity at some point?
19:24 copumpkin I don't see it anymore :(
19:24 mircea_popescu copumpkin yeah it was a signed message in like... 2011 ?
19:24 BingoBoingo And the Sious did outlast the Aztecs.
19:24 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo how you figure ?
19:25 copumpkin mircea_popescu: damn, I'm out of date :(
19:25 * kakobrekla sends some date to copumpkin
19:25 ThickAsThieves so i posted the link to The Last Question on facebook, and it only got Likes from jesus lovers
19:25 mircea_popescu lol
19:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.00562006 = 0.1124 BTC [-] {2}
19:25 BingoBoingo Aztec descendents survived on their women's lubrication and in that course became something different. Sioux staying pure now merely sell gas for $6 per gallon to people who can't stay on the interstate.
19:26 mircea_popescu so i've been reading stan's last post for the past fucking hour, becase you people are killing any shred of productivity.
19:26 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo i kinda count "Becoming something different" as survival.
19:26 mircea_popescu seeing how it's the key to survival.
19:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1742 @ 0.00459 = 7.9958 BTC [-]
19:27 cazalla mike_c: not really :\ i am hopeful they did delete my ID as they said they would after i closed my account
19:28 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Well it counts as personal survival, but not cultural survival. It's a mindset. A flawed one. But it is the one dominant on this continent in spite of wrongness.
19:28 mircea_popescu cazalla all that hopeful and five dollars buys you a cup of coffee.
19:28 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo shitty cultures aren't going to survive anyway.
19:28 mircea_popescu people took 25k years to come up with... pottery ? fuck them, you don't even want that shit to survive.
19:29 mircea_popescu kind-of why the only thought the collapse of the us evokes in my head is... well... good riddance.
19:29 mircea_popescu i'd much more regret the russians should they go, even as they've been unmitigated assholes their entire history.
19:29 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: The bigger problem is they had buffalo that many years and never managed to turn them into cows.
19:29 mircea_popescu at least good novels. plus good words.
19:30 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo some argument can be brought that a relative lack of readily available iron made them kind-of stone-age-bound 4ever.
19:30 mircea_popescu imo it's a weak argument.
19:30 BingoBoingo Wisconsin had plenty of easy Iron
19:30 mircea_popescu right.
19:30 mircea_popescu i mean... most of yurp had no iron
19:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 196 @ 0.00459 = 0.8996 BTC [-]
19:30 mircea_popescu sweden did, and it was enough.
19:30 BingoBoingo The problem was they used Iron to shape flint and not the right way
19:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 41 @ 0.0046 = 0.1886 BTC [+] {2}
19:31 mircea_popescu no but i mean... nobody forbade that, you know ?
19:31 mircea_popescu they could have shoved it up their butts too,
19:32 BingoBoingo Still an interesting alternate history it would be if the filthy spanish did not small pox the continent and therby give the English the chance to colonize
19:32 mircea_popescu just as long as they made some tenochtitlan steel sabres cca 1300
19:33 mircea_popescu asciilifeform http://www.loper-os.org/wp-content/90s.jpg
19:33 mircea_popescu he looks like such a total derp, too
19:33 BingoBoingo I some alternate history Ohio could have been the real Afghanistan
19:33 mircea_popescu they give stars to anyone now.
19:33 asciilifeform 'those were the great roaring 90s, we survived as well as we could'
19:34 asciilifeform multiple generations of derps killed their predecessors, ending with a final crop of mostly-functional beings
19:34 mircea_popescu but tha tdouche ? srsly ?
19:34 asciilifeform as described, in great detail, elsewhere
19:34 mircea_popescu people are rolling in graves.
19:35 mircea_popescu "if you give that fucking nimrod 1500 i'll shoot him on general principle"
19:38 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: I'm telling you can't be more than 20 BTC next year to take them http://www.frontierleague.com/teams/frontier-greys/
19:39 mircea_popescu jaysus
19:39 BingoBoingo Check the history of the town they are headquartered in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sauget,_Illinois
19:40 mircea_popescu http://www.frontierleague.com/league/transactions/ < o look, they have a bitcoin exchange
19:40 ozbot Transactions | Frontier League
19:40 BingoBoingo Seriously the formula should be buy a frontier league team, hire some MLB players
19:40 BingoBoingo ???
19:40 mircea_popescu what's OF SS etc
19:41 BingoBoingo Profit
19:41 BingoBoingo OF is outfield
19:41 BingoBoingo SS is Shortstop
19:41 mircea_popescu "The population was 249 at the 2000 census." hah
19:41 mircea_popescu Sauget was incorporated as "Monsanto" in 1926. It was formed to provide a liberal regulatory environment and low taxes for the Monsanto chemical plants at a time when local jurisdictions had most of the responsibility for environmental rules. It was renamed in honor of Leo Sauget, its first Village President
19:41 mircea_popescu ew
19:41 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Well, No one but Monsanto and strip clubs actually are in the city limits
19:41 mircea_popescu i wouldn't buy that shit if it was free.
19:42 BingoBoingo Well they haven't had a mayor not named Sauget in nearly a century
19:42 BingoBoingo Fuedalism is alive and well in /Murica
19:43 mircea_popescu The Monsanto plant in Sauget was also home to a serious accident in January 1992 when worker Charles Pritchett was critically hurt. Pritchett was caught in an auger used for moving small materials and shredding rubber. He was stuck in the auger for five hours while officials attempted to extract him. Pritchett was in a coma for three months and pronounced dead twice. Pritchett's leg was eventually amputated due to infe
19:43 mircea_popescu ction and the severity of the mutilation. Judge C. Glenn Stevens awarded the man $16,000,000 in 1993 to compensate him. To satisfy the judgment, the Midwest Rubber Reclaiming plant and equipment owned by the Monsanto Corporation was sold at auction in August 1993. The site has since been leveled with no future prospects for development.
19:43 mircea_popescu herp
19:43 BingoBoingo herp, It was reclaimed for still more strip clubs
19:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36300 @ 0.00086013 = 31.2227 BTC [+] {3}
19:44 mircea_popescu what's a working girl make there ?
19:44 BingoBoingo Depends on the tits and how not black she is
19:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.09099433 = 0.273 BTC [+] {3}
19:45 mircea_popescu white c cup
19:45 mircea_popescu 24 yo
19:45 BingoBoingo hundreds a night if she's fat and black, thousands if the ain's fat and lighter. White C cup would prolly work in Caseyville where the money is better
19:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 31 @ 0.0046 = 0.1426 BTC [+]
19:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8550 @ 0.00085996 = 7.3527 BTC [-]
19:45 BingoBoingo Especially at 24
19:46 mircea_popescu thousands a night ?
19:46 mircea_popescu wow, more than most start-ups.
19:46 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: That East Saint Welfare
19:46 mircea_popescu need moar #womenintech, because currently they're not fucktarded enough to work really long hours doing relaly anyoing shit for very little money.
19:47 BingoBoingo For Srs.
19:47 mircea_popescu fact : the ~average~ entrepreneur will not have made by age 40 as much money as the average hs floozie working the stripping joints in saget, il made.
19:47 BingoBoingo Cause they only make 4x what then men driving the trucks make
19:48 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Most of those floozies make more than the doctors that patronize them make
19:48 mircea_popescu not oft said enough.
19:48 BingoBoingo And then they turn 30
19:49 BingoBoingo Once they turn 30 some horses at Fairmount park sell their jizz for more than the floozie's going rate.
19:49 mircea_popescu "I move that MPOE-PR be appointed supreme dictator of the Bitcoin Foundation.
19:49 mircea_popescu Hopefully these will be the first orders of business: dissolve, disband, liquidate."
19:49 mircea_popescu dude imagine, a chick being emperor of bitcoin.
19:50 BingoBoingo So much fanfiction would happen
19:50 asciilifeform why the hell not
19:50 mircea_popescu ^
19:50 mircea_popescu you two answered each other.
19:52 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Does Hanna have thoughts on these developments? Other than "finally" and oter breif quips?
19:52 mircea_popescu you'll have to ask her i guess.
19:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 239 @ 0.00469999 = 1.1233 BTC [+] {3}
19:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9004 @ 0.00086034 = 7.7465 BTC [+]
19:53 BingoBoingo Eh, I don't go on Bitcointalk that often anymoar
19:54 BingoBoingo I also have to do this paper on n00b sportbetting for asciilifeform
19:54 BingoBoingo And find ALL of the satoshi communications
19:54 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: not direly essential, i think i got the basic idea from your summary
19:54 BingoBoingo Ans still try to double those ATC holding
19:55 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Well, n00bs don't read -assets so I might as well write it for them.
19:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 77 @ 0.0047 = 0.3619 BTC [+]
19:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 27 @ 0.0055 = 0.1485 BTC
20:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 436 @ 0.0047 = 2.0492 BTC [+]
20:01 mircea_popescu not wasted effort, writing things up
20:02 mircea_popescu "The last time the Chicago Cubs won a World Series, the Ottoman Empire still existed."
20:03 BingoBoingo And that is why I try not to travel futher north than I-70
20:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22230 @ 0.00086215 = 19.1656 BTC [+] {3}
20:04 BingoBoingo And Cubs fans drink this swill called "Old Style" which isn't strong enough to be a malt liquor or palatable enough to be a beer.
20:10 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: cultural, educational: http://lurkmore.to/%D0%9F%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%BA%D0%B0
20:13 mircea_popescu lol
20:13 mircea_popescu clearly military brothels aren't what they used to be
20:15 BingoBoingo As I write the noob sports betting article, I'd like to open a quick survey. What team would people pick to take the World Series this year?
20:15 mircea_popescu lol the churkin performance at the un is pretty lulzy
20:15 asciilifeform ahahaha
20:15 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo i couldn't name a tea,
20:16 mircea_popescu check that out, they only got 1% ish respond to mobilization orders ?
20:17 mircea_popescu lmao.
20:17 mircea_popescu people all derping around about war. if a general mobilization order issued by the ukraine is ignored so, who the fuck is going to go to war ? france ?
20:17 mircea_popescu maybe if they make the war 4 hours a day and everyone the same height.
20:19 asciilifeform 'make w0r in your sp4r3 t1m3'
20:19 nubbins` http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/bmo-customer-s-account-emptied-of-87k-as-bank-falls-for-scam-1.2555647
20:19 ozbot BMO customer's account emptied of $87K as bank falls for scam - British Columbia - CBC News
20:20 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: When I wrote the electric boogaloo bet, France's boots were the ones I imagined solving it as Yes
20:20 nubbins` BMO = canada's 4th-largest bank
20:20 mircea_popescu how did you think that one
20:20 BingoBoingo Or Sardinia's boots
20:20 mircea_popescu nubbins` pretty funny.
20:20 ThickAsThieves i'd bet on the Red Sox
20:20 ThickAsThieves but i'm from there
20:20 ThickAsThieves which i suppose is relevant
20:20 ThickAsThieves sweat factor n all
20:20 BingoBoingo Nah, Players as old as big Pappi don't get consecutive good seasons
20:21 ThickAsThieves oh i dont watch baseball anymore
20:21 ThickAsThieves only when i worked at a newspaper
20:21 BingoBoingo ThickAsThieves: And this is why you follow AsicMiner and not things more interesting to drink to.
20:22 ThickAsThieves i dont drink really
20:22 ThickAsThieves other than for the taste sometimes
20:22 BingoBoingo ThickAsThieves: And your lack of drinking is why you care about shit like ASICMiner
20:22 ThickAsThieves once i fell out of it, it just makes me sleepy and feel crappy
20:23 BingoBoingo ThickAsThieves: Building a habit takes work
20:23 BingoBoingo So does building an addiction
20:23 ThickAsThieves i put plenty time in during my 20s
20:23 ThickAsThieves i get bored with everything eventually
20:23 BingoBoingo For some reason I suspect your 20's weren't very roaring...
20:23 ThickAsThieves i'm even bored with getting bored with things
20:24 BingoBoingo ThickAsThieves: Maybe it is time to see what Abercrombie tastes like?
20:24 mircea_popescu asciilifeform wow, orlov is pro moscow ?!
20:24 ThickAsThieves i ahev my stories
20:24 BingoBoingo What would Hemmingway do?
20:24 mircea_popescu how the hell does that work ? just because he dislikes the usg ?
20:24 ThickAsThieves arrests, fights, etc
20:24 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: not exactly - mostly anti-u.s./'international community'
20:24 asciilifeform or rather, anti-anglo
20:25 BingoBoingo ThickAsThieves: I'm still out on bail since last spring
20:25 mircea_popescu but it can't seriously be contemplated ukrainians'd fare better under putin than under merkel
20:25 mircea_popescu or is it ?
20:25 ThickAsThieves lol
20:25 ThickAsThieves well then
20:25 mircea_popescu i mean... eu in no way means anglo
20:25 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: under merkel << time for a 'joke'
20:25 nubbins` http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/how-synthetic-identity-fraud-costs-canada-1b-a-year-1.2554429
20:25 ozbot How 'synthetic' identity fraud costs Canada $1B a year - Canada - CBC News
20:25 BingoBoingo Oh, In simple western terms mircea_popescu takes a 180 from IRC mircea
20:25 asciilifeform russian derper: 'if we'd let the jerries win, we'd be riding in mercedes benz now!'
20:25 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo huh ?
20:25 asciilifeform counter-derper: 'as the leather seats'
20:25 nubbins` "In one case, Kelly suspects the person used in the scheme had poor English skills and, through miscommunication, wrote down what he believed was the fake name he was supposed to use, which was apparently flashing across his computer screen. This fake identity went on to have an effective credit rating, a driver’s licence, bank accounts, a telephone and an apartment (with renter’s insurance). And
20:25 nubbins` all under the name: Server Froze."
20:26 mircea_popescu asciilifeform lol
20:26 mircea_popescu server froze is actrually not a bad name
20:26 mircea_popescu for a lead vocal of a postpunk band
20:26 nubbins` certainly, mister froze
20:27 nubbins` just sign here
20:27 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Twitter you sounds rather pro-Putin IRC you sounds rather fuck everybody. Unfortunatly people miss the Trilema you fuck everybody needs to be literal
20:27 mircea_popescu it's mister server
20:27 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo i'm not pro putin in any sense. it's just that most of the people ending up in my feed are english speaking propaganda agents
20:27 mircea_popescu so i tend to give them a hard time
20:28 nubbins` vladimir poutine
20:28 mircea_popescu lol
20:28 nubbins` wouldn't be able to take the guy seriously if he wasn't such a fucking hardass
20:29 mircea_popescu he's a pretty decent hardass.
20:29 mircea_popescu sort-of like reaganesque i guess
20:29 ThickAsThieves kenna says hi! http://www.moneyandtech.com/mar3-news-update/
20:30 mircea_popescu still tryin' huh.
20:30 mircea_popescu why can't he just make an altcoin like any well behaved scammer and fade into the bitbucket.
20:30 asciilifeform orlov's view seems to be that usg/nato/allies wreck countries (near east, etc.) to retard development -> to throttle resource consumption, create captive markets a la the brits at their peak, churn mil. inventory, 'controllable chaos' to feed various parasites.
20:30 asciilifeform this is by no means an uncommon view.
20:30 mircea_popescu it's not factually correct tho.
20:31 BingoBoingo Well, it is important to remember that a lot of what made Reagan Reaganesque was his Buffet like dementia
20:31 mircea_popescu what examples do we have ? hungary, slovenia, slovakia, czech, poland, romania, bulgaria, take your pick ?
20:31 BingoBoingo Eh, why not pick on the polaks?
20:31 BingoBoingo They had Ukraine first.
20:32 mircea_popescu all these countries re-industrialised after the soviet collapse.
20:32 mircea_popescu kinda indifferent which you pick
20:32 asciilifeform did they?
20:32 asciilifeform i suppose it depends on what you think of as 'industry'
20:32 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: For values of first not == Mongols
20:33 mircea_popescu asciilifeform what'd you consider a fair measure ?
20:33 ThickAsThieves LTC hit hard on AUR news
20:33 mircea_popescu romania finished 2 nucelar reactors that the soviets/local commies tried to get going for 15 years, and now exports electricity.
20:34 mircea_popescu is this a measure ?
20:34 asciilifeform sure.
20:34 mircea_popescu i really could keep on going.
20:34 asciilifeform other cases (latvia) not so hot.
20:34 mircea_popescu latvia is a very small unfortunate plot of land tho
20:34 asciilifeform main export, unskilled labour
20:34 mircea_popescu i mean... some geographical zones will just die out if trade barriers go away
20:34 mircea_popescu you wouldn't say washington wrecked detroit per se would you /
20:35 BingoBoingo Oh, Washington destroyed Detroit.
20:35 asciilifeform why not
20:35 mircea_popescu well because in that sense you could as well say i did it.
20:35 kakobrekla oh lol
20:35 kakobrekla >BitcoinNotBombs co-founder Davi Barker was stopped in the Manchester, NH airport by TSA agents demanding to search is bags for Bitcoins. Barker was traveling with Bitcoin related merchandise, namely metal pins with Bitcoin labels on them, which he believes is what confused the TSA agents, who didn’t seem to understand what Bitcoin actually is. Barker was eventually allowed to continue to his flight.
20:35 BingoBoingo Detroit would be thriving if that false flag agent did not smash Patton with a jeep
20:35 ThickAsThieves https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=bitcoin+
20:35 ozbot bitcoin - Wolfram|Alpha
20:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07500001 = 0.15 BTC [-]
20:35 kakobrekla CALL BOMB SQUAD; CHECK FOR BTC!!
20:36 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo or if they bombed japan more generouslky.
20:36 mircea_popescu kakobrekla honestly the thing reads to me like attentionseeking behaviour.
20:36 ThickAsThieves "The purpose of this wallet is to provide cold storage level security with close to web wallet convenience."
20:36 mircea_popescu so the customs searched his bags. it's what customs do.
20:36 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Japan doesn't count. Fake Gox BTC, Fake COuntry
20:36 BingoBoingo Or Cuntry
20:36 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: smash Patton with a jeep << https://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/PSEUDOSC/ConspirThx.htm
20:36 mircea_popescu they're not obliged nor reasonably expected to go "o heh heh bitcoin heh heh" just so random beavis feels tehy connected.
20:37 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo yeah well afaik toyota etc is what sunk detroit.
20:37 kakobrekla i cant judge whats true or whats not just whats written
20:38 asciilifeform 'Patton, like Douglas MacArthur, was an unfortunate mixture of personal courage, technical brilliance and toxic personality, and like MacArthur, a role model to three generations of mediocrities who equate pomp and nitpicking with excellence.'
20:38 mircea_popescu asciilifeform and as far as parasites go... russia definitely takes the cake. their (putin's) recovery model pretty much relies on parasites
20:38 mircea_popescu nttawwt
20:38 mircea_popescu jesus wtf.
20:38 mircea_popescu who dares slurry the name of Gen Pissintherhine!
20:38 kakobrekla it does remind me of nefarios travel to usa though.
20:39 kakobrekla that was epic.
20:39 mircea_popescu only took him 30 hours to fail ?
20:39 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: the parasites in the summary being the various u.s. 'aid' busybodies who feast on the festering corpses of countries zapped by 'international community'
20:39 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Well unlike McArthur Patton was good at being crazy good at his job.
20:39 mircea_popescu "i have 38 dollars, 15 pakistani liras, scottish food stamps and i will be here one month but is all ok"
20:39 mircea_popescu asciilifeform none of them being you know, owners of uk football clubs.
20:40 BingoBoingo Fuck I need a time machine
20:40 Mats_cd03 im a big fan of tom ricks' view of how the ukraine will turn out
20:40 Mats_cd03 http://ricks.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2014/03/03/ukraine_call_me_a_crazy_optimist_but_i_think_that_in_the_long_run_putin_and_his_kle
20:40 ozbot Ukraine: Call me a crazy optimist, but I think that in the long run, Putin and his kleptocratic pals
20:40 BingoBoingo We just need to advance civilization to RoboKleptocracy already and be done with it
20:41 mod6 arnt we alreday there?
20:41 Mats_cd03 putin is avon barksdale
20:42 BingoBoingo mod6: Nah, robots still steal for people. We need robots to steal for the sake of theft being fun
20:42 asciilifeform 'orc culture 101.' in the lands of the orcs, when 'human' shows up and says 'we can have government without corruption!' what people hear is 'if we'd let the jerries win, we could be in a mercedes benz. but it isn't too late! and if we end up as the seats, that's our place'
20:42 mod6 BingoBoingo: ahh
20:42 Mats_cd03 a younger, more handsome negro will surely replace him one day
20:42 asciilifeform like that chinese fellow who wrote that his country ought to be colonized for 300 years before it can be considered 'civilized'
20:42 BingoBoingo Mats_cd03: Pharrel?
20:42 asciilifeform and thrown in oubliette for his troubles
20:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 33 @ 0.00465108 = 0.1535 BTC [-]
20:43 asciilifeform now a brit, french, or one of us - might agree! but who expects the chinese crown to agree.
20:43 asciilifeform you'd have to be an idiot
20:43 mircea_popescu as if anyone could be bothered to colonize china.
20:43 asciilifeform or a traitor, sure of protection from his foreign master
20:43 mircea_popescu if every able bodied white guy did nothing but rape chinese women from now on to the rest of his life,
20:43 mircea_popescu it still wouldn't be done
20:43 BingoBoingo I dunno china takes order well, also heroin well
20:43 asciilifeform 'colonize' doesn't have to mean 'administer british-style'
20:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.043249 = 0.173 BTC [+]
20:43 asciilifeform could also mean 'biodiesel'
20:44 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo but that's the point. you'd have to somehow teach them to stop taking order.
20:44 mircea_popescu asciilifeform nah, that's not colonize for srsly.
20:44 asciilifeform or mrs. thatcher's 'we need no more than 15 mil. russians. to service the pipeline.'
20:44 mircea_popescu lol she actually said that ?
20:45 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i'll say now that i was never able to track down an authoritative proof of this.
20:45 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Nah, you start an IRL Breaking Bad spinoff, call it "The Real Empire Business" All of a sudden you have a nation of 2 billion central kentucky hillbillies
20:45 asciilifeform but, to 50% of russian-speaking people, she may as well have said it
20:45 mircea_popescu ya well...
20:45 asciilifeform (there is also no proof that stalin spoke the famous 'no man no problem')
20:45 asciilifeform but he might as well have
20:45 mircea_popescu asciilifeform in stalin's case, the proof is in the picture
20:46 asciilifeform (or 'million deaths is a statistic, one death a tragedy')
20:46 mircea_popescu (that famous one, on the river side)
20:46 btcleaker <-- Insider with ground breaking tip. Shoot mail @ leakerbitcoin@forward.cat for more info
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20:46 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all
20:46 mircea_popescu sigh
20:47 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 689.91, vol: 65493.93688626 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 659.011, vol: 40669.46841 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 687.0, vol: 51698.83657489 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 653.8679, vol: 17764.86200000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 687.912, vol: 68.30158652 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 671.1525, vol: 433.36901496 | Volume-weighted last average: 678.238779079
20:47 BingoBoingo leaker quit too soon to get mocked
20:47 mircea_popescu how fucking retarded are kids today ? if you're an insider you need to introduce yourself ?
20:47 mircea_popescu wait, over 600 already ?
20:47 asciilifeform spam'n'scram
20:47 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Very retarded see 2bitIdjit for deets
20:47 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Over 600 since MPOE resolved
20:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 99 @ 0.0062001 = 0.6138 BTC [-] {2}
20:48 mircea_popescu heh.
20:48 BingoBoingo For February
20:48 mircea_popescu if i fucking have a heart attack "suddenly" you're all screwed.
20:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21431 @ 0.00086292 = 18.4932 BTC [+] {2}
20:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 144 @ 0.00462948 = 0.6666 BTC [-] {4}
20:48 mircea_popescu cokea btw, here's a pro tip : using random seven proxies is not enough
20:49 mircea_popescu we still can tell.
20:49 cokea wat
20:49 nubbins` .cat?
20:49 cokea I'm a better troll than that
20:49 cokea Frozenway is a known VPN mircea_popescu
20:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 29 @ 0.00605506 = 0.1756 BTC [-] {5}
20:50 mircea_popescu nubbins` supposedly catalan
20:50 mircea_popescu tey're running out of gimmicks.
20:50 nubbins` interesting
20:50 nubbins` didn't know non-us countries got 3-letter TLDs
20:51 nubbins` not that it's a country
20:51 mircea_popescu what the web really needs is a .derp
20:51 nubbins` can you imagine the gold rush on that?
20:51 mircea_popescu srsly.
20:51 BingoBoingo cokea: So what brings you here? ENlightenment?
20:51 BingoBoingo cokea: Do you write for wired?
20:51 nubbins` 3-letter .derp domain for sale, 5k btc
20:52 cokea viagra spam BingoBoingo
20:52 cokea you got that for me BingoBoingo?
20:52 BingoBoingo cokea: Nah kakobrekla would have caught that.
20:52 mircea_popescu " So, now we are threatening to start World War Three because Russia is trying to control the chaos in a failed state on its border — a state that our own government spooks provoked into failure?"
20:53 mircea_popescu dude how the fuck is the ukraine a failed state
20:53 BingoBoingo cokea: Sometime I am drunk. SOmetimes I am stupid. You didn't catch me here while drunk, so...
20:53 mircea_popescu what are htese people all about.
20:53 punkman1 mircea_popescu: you can have .derp for like $200k
20:53 cokea BingoBoingo: I'm also mining manually
20:53 mircea_popescu it's like everyone has nothing better to do than ride the hyperbolae.
20:53 btcleak Guess who's back
20:53 nubbins` you?
20:53 mircea_popescu punkman1 maybe once i'm older.
20:53 BingoBoingo cokea: Must be some serious carpal tunnel
20:53 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: how the fuck is the ukraine a failed state << exactly same way as the u.s.
20:54 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i dunno. last i visited i had a ton of fun.
20:54 mircea_popescu by comparison, ny was boring as fuck.
20:54 BingoBoingo btcleak: Want some real insider leaks?
20:54 Multivac btcleak is tiberius! I hope.
20:54 asciilifeform bankrupt, serious ethnic split, little to no history as an actual nation... dead industry
20:54 mircea_popescu ;;google man pissing, urethal sounds
20:54 gribble If You Stick Things in Your Pee Hole, Awful Things Will Happen - Vice: <http://www.vice.com/read/if-you-stick-things-in-your-pee-hole-awful-things-will-happen>; Urology Care Foundation - Urology A-Z - Urethral Stricture Disease: <http://www.urologyhealth.org/urology/index.cfm?article=66>; A Vibrating Urethral Sound - ShopInPrivate.com: <http://www.shopinprivate.com/vibrating- (1 more message)
20:54 asciilifeform subject beaten to death elsewhere
20:54 mircea_popescu ^ insider leak
20:54 btcleak I got the hottest chili ever BingoBoingo Multivac
20:54 BingoBoingo ;;ud sound docking
20:54 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Sound%20Docking | The act of inserting one's penis into another man's urethra. See also Sounding and Docking.
20:54 ozbot Urban Dictionary: Sound Docking
20:54 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i dunno, it doesn't seem failed at all to me.
20:54 mircea_popescu solmalia is a failed state.
20:55 btcleak I guess I'd be better off scamming tho
20:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6329 @ 0.00086085 = 5.4483 BTC [-]
20:55 mircea_popescu afghanistan, as pumped by the us is a failed state.
20:55 BingoBoingo Prolly better ROI
20:55 mircea_popescu perhaps iraq too. arguably.
20:55 btcleak ya
20:55 btcleak HOTTEST SHIT ON MTGOX
20:55 nubbins` Multivac: i read a story about you today
20:55 asciilifeform currently trying to confirm or refuse a certain interesting rumour
20:55 btcleak Mine isn't a rumor
20:55 btcleak It comes from the man himself
20:56 BingoBoingo btcleak: THis chan largely gave up on Gox 9 months ago. Unless Gox had a baby we don't much care; unless paternity test.
20:56 asciilifeform that yanukovych was in the process of selling vast tracts of land in u. to the chinese
20:56 asciilifeform to be farmed to exhaustion
20:56 btcleak lol fuck gox BingoBoingo
20:56 asciilifeform (as they are presently doing elsewhere)
20:56 nubbins` BingoBoingo: i used to know a lot of freaks, some of whom were into sounding (not sound docking)
20:56 mircea_popescu asciilifeform seeing how i never heard a peep of this until AFTER the troubles, i'd say it's propaganda
20:56 asciilifeform if true, it's a bit of a 'pox on both houses'
20:57 BingoBoingo btcleak: So you have some credentials? SOme history?
20:57 asciilifeform given that, after a russian victory, the process (if actual) will likely re-start
20:57 mircea_popescu good land is in the west anyway
20:57 btcleak BingoBoingo: I'm some random guy
20:57 mircea_popescu or am i confused ?
20:57 asciilifeform center.
20:57 BingoBoingo btcleak: So am I
20:57 btcleak or else I would make you pay forward for the info not after it happens
20:57 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo after one makes /. first page no longer random
20:57 asciilifeform west u. is a kind of mournful shithole similar to certain u.s. 'red states'
20:58 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: prolly ture
20:58 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: OMG, BingoBoingo is more real than Firstname Lastname
20:58 mircea_popescu what's "Farmed to exhaustion" mean anyway.
20:58 BingoBoingo Imma have to read some Sartre
20:58 mircea_popescu modern agriculture uses soil as substrate, plants are fed oil.
20:58 nubbins` nevermind sartre, read some hugh pickens
20:58 nubbins` ;p
20:59 btcleak Sartre is a faggot BingoBoingo
20:59 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: there is such a thing as an agricultural equivalent of 'strip mining'
20:59 btcleak and a shitty writer BingoBoingo
20:59 BingoBoingo btcleak: Maybe Imma faggot gonna wear your anus around my clit?
20:59 btcleak shitty writer sartre
20:59 mircea_popescu asciilifeform yes. and everyone is practicing it.
20:59 mircea_popescu and has been
21:00 mircea_popescu for over 50 years.
21:00 btcleak hey mircea_popescu
21:00 btcleak I am so in love with you that I want to give you the info for free
21:00 BingoBoingo btcleak: I am dealing with a real existential crisis where Immaginary me is bigger than actual me.
21:00 mircea_popescu got tits ?
21:00 btcleak I can grow some for you
21:00 mircea_popescu so grow some tits and give me your titlove for free.
21:00 BingoBoingo btcleak: I would like if you gave me your anus and 15 minutes of time to sort out my feelings.
21:00 btcleak I will BingoBoingo
21:01 btcleak LOL this info is funny
21:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 91200 @ 0.00086367 = 78.7667 BTC [+] {6}
21:01 mircea_popescu i wonder how the various ws folk will adapt to this chan in the coming years.
21:01 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: They adapt or die
21:01 btcleak you mean when bitcoin ponzi disappear?
21:01 mircea_popescu yeah but it'll be interesting.
21:01 mircea_popescu btcleak btc ponzis can not disappear.
21:01 mircea_popescu they haven't disappeared in fiat yet
21:01 BingoBoingo btcleak: Protip: Bing the lube or I'll make the lube
21:02 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: idea was that this (http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/04619a7a-5da2-11e3-95bd-00144feabdc0.html) transport project would ship the resulting goods home.
21:02 mircea_popescu o o that
21:02 btcleak lol it will mircea_popescu
21:02 mircea_popescu isn't that an old nazis did it story ?
21:02 btcleak bitcoin is a shit technology
21:02 asciilifeform i've no conclusive evidence! i live in an entirely different failed state, on other side of atlantic ocean.
21:02 btcleak who are the rich faggots here
21:02 BingoBoingo btcleak: What ridiculous tech do you advance? LISP Machines?
21:02 btcleak I need to make a deal regarding my info
21:03 mircea_popescu this kunstler.com thing reads like alex jones in a different cape.
21:03 btcleak BingoBoingo: auto fleshlights
21:03 btcleak mircea_popescu redirect me to the rich folks
21:03 BingoBoingo btcleak: Make your case.
21:03 mircea_popescu go pester ver. he may have 18 btc or so left.
21:03 asciilifeform http://www.apk-inform.com/en/news/1025846
21:03 ozbot Ukraine: Council of Ministers of Crimea and Chinese companies agreed to jointly construct a grain te
21:04 asciilifeform etc.
21:04 BingoBoingo Or in the words of fiddy, get rich or dy trying
21:04 btcleak fuck 18 btc
21:04 mircea_popescu asciilifeform isn't it a little nutty to extrapolate based on that ?
21:04 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: sure.
21:05 mircea_popescu romania has a grain terminal in constanta large enough to ship the ukraine whole
21:05 asciilifeform a not entirely-implausible scenario, though.
21:05 mircea_popescu still... it's just a terminal
21:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16400 @ 0.0008621 = 14.1384 BTC [-]
21:05 BingoBoingo btcleak: I may or may not have 300 kbtc. If you offer news that gets a response from me other than nigga, maybe you get 20BTC
21:05 asciilifeform http://newswatch.nationalgeographic.com/2013/09/25/countries-like-china-want-foreign-farm-land/
21:05 ozbot Why China Wants (and Needs) Foreign Farm Land – News Watch
21:05 btcleak lol BingoBoingo
21:05 btcleak I have a confirmed news that is happening in a 2 weeks time frame
21:05 BingoBoingo Nigga please btcleak
21:06 asciilifeform ' The deal will funnel $2.6 billion into Ukraine annually for the next 50 years. China will also send seeds and fertilizer, as well as build some vital infrastructure in Crimea...'
21:06 asciilifeform sept. 25, 2013
21:06 nubbins` big oil popeline terminates in constanta as well, no?
21:06 nubbins` lel popeline
21:06 mircea_popescu so this is somehow a bad thing ?
21:06 BingoBoingo btcleak: Maybe we don't care about foundation jacking off and jizzing?
21:06 btcleak some good shit to be short on
21:06 mircea_popescu this is what the ukraine does, farms for export.
21:06 mircea_popescu since what, 1820
21:06 btcleak who cares of foundation BingoBoingo
21:06 nubbins` btcleak nobody gives a fuck about your news :(
21:06 BingoBoingo btcleak: I dunno? Nigas?
21:06 btcleak nubbins`: yes you love me
21:07 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: somehow a bad thing ? << we'll see when it revvs up
21:07 mircea_popescu i guess.
21:07 asciilifeform notice that if china merely wanted to buy the existing agri output, it easily could
21:07 BingoBoingo btcleak: Id I didn't short in Sept 2009 why would I short nao?
21:07 asciilifeform but no, they want to buy land, ship in own agrichemistry, etc
21:07 mircea_popescu ukraine has one of the fucking worst productivities in the world.
21:07 asciilifeform gotta wonder why
21:08 mircea_popescu do you know what they got per hectare in 2012 ?
21:08 nubbins` 1btc
21:08 mircea_popescu something like 1800kgs
21:08 mircea_popescu they could easily get 4k+
21:08 asciilifeform by 'burning the candle at both ends', no?
21:08 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Parts of Ukraine have great productivity, other parts suck though. Ukraine is an odd mix of Kansas and Arizona
21:08 asciilifeform as the chinese are suspected of planning
21:09 mircea_popescu well no, by fucking farming properly.
21:09 BingoBoingo ^^
21:09 mircea_popescu they don't even plow half the time
21:09 asciilifeform that's kinda how you keep the thing going, no?
21:09 * asciilifeform is not an agronomist
21:09 mircea_popescu http://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/v2_article_large/public/2011/11/08/186900-a-man-and-a-horse-plough-up-the-field-near-the-village-of-bugayvka-som.jpg
21:09 mircea_popescu i r not kid you.
21:09 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: No, you plow all of the time, even during fallow years
21:10 mircea_popescu asciilifeform there's a difference between fingerfucking and fucking a girl.
21:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5851 BTC [+]
21:10 mircea_popescu as long as you don't actually use your knee it doesn't harm her in any way
21:10 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: funnily, that horse scene is my father's main memory of his visit to Ro. in the early '80s!
21:10 mircea_popescu well yeah, but meanwhile ro industrialised
21:10 mircea_popescu cause eu capital.
21:10 asciilifeform right
21:10 mircea_popescu ukraine has to do the same thing somehow
21:10 mircea_popescu i guess htey're stuck with chinese capital
21:10 asciilifeform well, the east still has the sov. era industry going, sort of.
21:11 mircea_popescu on the face of things this is all sensible, is what i'm saying. i dun see the big threat
21:11 asciilifeform there wouldn't have been a wankfest if the west u. folks didn't 'go full bore latvian' and decree a 'lowering into prison bitch' of the rus. half
21:11 BingoBoingo If 'Murica can Industrialize so can Ukraine, http://www.kimberamerica.com/1911/raptor-ii
21:11 asciilifeform 'language exams', etc
21:12 BingoBoingo I am a pole and so can you
21:12 mircea_popescu i guess.
21:12 mircea_popescu im not even sure what the tension was, exactly.
21:12 asciilifeform it was a foolish declaration of chimp war, egged on by the u.s
21:12 mircea_popescu there defo was some sort of tension
21:12 asciilifeform as described by mr.o
21:12 mircea_popescu asciilifeform listen, you can't do that from outside.
21:12 BingoBoingo 2001 was a Chimp war kakobrekla can attest
21:12 asciilifeform you do it from inside
21:12 mircea_popescu it's some sexual pathology that's at the root of it.
21:12 asciilifeform using 'ngo
21:12 asciilifeform '
21:13 mircea_popescu nah
21:13 kakobrekla lol BingoBoingo
21:13 mircea_popescu if ngos worked then white chicks wouldn't be raped five times a year on average in south africa today
21:13 BingoBoingo Fucking ass Monoliths
21:13 asciilifeform and by dropping hints that you'll support rebels
21:13 kakobrekla BingoBoingo looks like ukraine needs one
21:13 asciilifeform (see, e.g. mr saakashvili)
21:14 BingoBoingo kakobrekla: I might have one in the garage. Would you escrow the sale of a monolith to the unidentified gunmen?
21:15 kakobrekla better sleep on that one.
21:15 BingoBoingo I need to get rid of this monolith because the squirrels are starting to play nigga golf
21:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4206 @ 0.00086085 = 3.6207 BTC [-]
21:15 kakobrekla lol
21:15 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i tell you, to me this sounds like thje proposition that a bank can provoke a divorce
21:15 BingoBoingo They've gone black, soon they won't come back
21:16 BingoBoingo Also I'd like the garage opener to work instead of returning "err: All of Jupiter's moons are yours except Europa"
21:17 BingoBoingo Annoying ass cargo cult technology
21:17 asciilifeform attempt no parking there.
21:17 btcleak brb niggers
21:18 BingoBoingo Fucking it. Imma load up a space trolley full of ford escorts and make parking there
21:18 mircea_popescu is ford escort slang for a black stripper with lobster tail ?
21:18 nubbins` yeah
21:18 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Unfortunatley not
21:18 nubbins` rob ford likes lobster
21:19 nubbins` and tail
21:19 BingoBoingo When I was in high school an acquainance from the boonies came from a family with a surplus of ford passengar cars.
21:19 BingoBoingo The family did things out of boredom like fit dump truck motors into passenger coupes
21:20 nubbins` hah
21:20 BingoBoingo And nao their kid can't fly aero planes
21:20 BingoBoingo Not after that great 4th of july party
21:21 BingoBoingo WHere they turned a ford into a firework barge
21:21 BingoBoingo Eh, though. Live and let dies.
21:22 BingoBoingo Even though the kid fit dump truck power in hatchback confines
21:23 nubbins` fiesta tow truck
21:23 mircea_popescu nah this is nuts. there's not going to be any "de-nazifying" of anything, wtf.
21:24 BingoBoingo nubbins`: Well it was a 94 escort and an 88 F-OMNGWTFBBQ Super DUty
21:24 nubbins` i like it
21:24 nubbins` always wanted to hide a muscle car inside a shitbox chassis
21:24 nubbins` this is even better
21:24 BingoBoingo nubbins`: I have no idea if it is still
21:25 BingoBoingo Haven't seen the kid since '06
21:25 nubbins` man, david byrne doesn't stop singing about food, does he?
21:27 BingoBoingo nubbins`: The moral of the story before police get involved is that no, torque alone does not make you fast.
21:27 nubbins` oh, of course not
21:27 nubbins` just like the idea of surprises under the hood
21:28 nubbins` whether it be something that can smoke a cop car or something that can tow a fleet of em
21:28 mircea_popescu ^
21:28 mircea_popescu i was thinking, and wtf do you do for transmission
21:29 diametric evening gents
21:29 BingoBoingo Well last time I saw him I introduced him to a girl who was good at the dick sucking and wanted to sell a Dodge neon.
21:29 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: You half ass the transmission
21:30 mircea_popescu so it'll do... 60mph ?
21:30 mircea_popescu except... real easy ?
21:30 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Hopefully
21:30 mircea_popescu even at say 30% inclines ?
21:30 BingoBoingo Two bolts plus a crankshaft
21:30 mircea_popescu ok that'll prolly blow
21:30 BingoBoingo Only blow so often though
21:30 mircea_popescu you know there's a reason detached semi heads are run a certain way
21:30 mircea_popescu too light spells trouble
21:31 BingoBoingo Of course
21:31 mircea_popescu diametric heya
21:32 BingoBoingo The early 1990's though inherited a lot of the ethos of the 1980's where any motor by a company should work with any transmission
21:33 mircea_popescu yeah, because this is how it works in mechanics.
21:33 mircea_popescu also any roman candle should work with any asshole.
21:33 copumpkin lol
21:33 BingoBoingo I may have tested that last one...
21:34 mircea_popescu anyway, i'd love to see the hand-made transmission some afficionado made to allow a dump truck engine in his thunderbird
21:35 mircea_popescu because such a thing COULD be done, and it'd probably be awesome.
21:35 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Do you want me to give you some email addresses?
21:35 mircea_popescu lol noty.
21:35 mircea_popescu but pix if you have them.
21:35 BingoBoingo I know someone not on a no fly list who does that for their Demo cars
21:36 mircea_popescu also since we're talking shafts :
21:36 mircea_popescu http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/crisis-in-south-africa-the-shocking-practice-of-corrective-rape--aimed-at-curing-lesbians-9033224.html
21:36 ozbot Crisis in South Africa: The shocking practice of 'corrective rape' - aimed at 'curing' lesbians - A
21:36 mircea_popescu i wonder if this ever actually worked.
21:37 mircea_popescu "i used to kinda not like doing it with men, but then these dudes fucked me really roughly and now i'm like all fixed"
21:37 dub i've had rough sex with a lesbian
21:38 mircea_popescu without asking her ?
21:39 mircea_popescu "I used to sleep under a bridge, not eat, just cry. I hanged myself; it was on a Monday. I took pills, took alcohol, drank cleaning appliances and then hanged myself. But God said, 'It is not your time'."
21:39 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: So are you asking if someone can deliver to you a thundrbird with a dump truck motor or asking for opinions whether or not it can be done?
21:39 mircea_popescu i was more like idly trolling for pics
21:39 dub she was into it, unkown if it cured her muff addiction
21:40 mircea_popescu why would you want to cure such a thing anyway
21:41 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: The one big example I say in person was well before I had a computer with more than two colors on its monitor much less a digital camera.
21:42 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo i imagine because of the limitations of alloys you'd prolly end up with rather complex coggery
21:42 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Well the first example I saw ended its life because the operator insisted on running it on Jet A fuel
21:42 MisterE http://storify.com/billmon1/the-ukrainian-grand-delusion
21:42 MisterE war will be good for BTC
21:43 mircea_popescu there shall be no war.
21:43 MisterE its already over
21:43 mircea_popescu pretty much
21:43 MisterE Putin won
21:43 nubbins` wait
21:43 nubbins` she drank cleaning appliances?
21:43 BingoBoingo MisterE: It isn't over but it isn't a war
21:43 nubbins` like what, a vacuum cleaner?
21:43 MisterE thought that was a musical insturment
21:44 mircea_popescu nubbins` she means bleach
21:45 nubbins` guess it affected her language center
21:45 MisterE drinking bleach is the most retarded thing to do
21:45 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Is Romania left or right hand drive?
21:45 MisterE you will never die
21:46 mircea_popescu left
21:46 nubbins` ;;seen bloctoc
21:46 gribble bloctoc was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 days, 22 hours, 31 minutes, and 54 seconds ago: <bloctoc> It will help government determine the size of the bailout required
21:46 BingoBoingo ;;seen vexual
21:46 gribble vexual was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 days, 3 hours, 30 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: <Vexual> lasers in the eye is never good tat
21:47 bloctoc nubbins' looking for me?
21:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.00086121 = 12.4014 BTC [+]
21:50 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: So one estimate request got a response already "Depends on the dump truck motor. Are you talking about a standard Volvo or cummins diesel? Or are you talking about a larger super industrial engine? Any motor can be out in any car. All it takes is a torch, welder, and some good math."
21:50 mircea_popescu haha
21:51 mircea_popescu you probably shouldn't hustle these good people, they probably have productive stuff to do with their tiem
21:51 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Well, if you want a new car to be chauffered in...
21:51 nubbins` just pinging! any luck w/ eulora?
21:52 BingoBoingo Left hand drive
21:52 BingoBoingo I pinged a party with earnest experience in the matter.
21:52 artifexd No. Stuck on cel3d right now.
21:52 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo not rly. about to move here anyway.
21:52 nubbins` ah
21:53 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: So Argentina plan is underway?
21:53 * mircea_popescu admires how we've picked the most persnickety software stack imaginable, apparently.
21:54 nubbins` ah, it's not so bad
21:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30550 @ 0.00086059 = 26.291 BTC [-] {2}
21:57 MisterE How does a Roma know a word like persnickety?
21:58 MisterE hardly european
21:59 copumpkin mircea_popescu knows all
21:59 asciilifeform mircea_popescu is moving?
21:59 KRS-One lol
22:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 20 @ 0.006001 = 0.12 BTC [-]
22:00 mircea_popescu asciilifeform gotta see the world.
22:00 mircea_popescu 2015 mp conference won't be in timisoara, that's for sure.
22:02 BingoBoingo Well Bingo Leaks remember Argentine apartements being quoted specificaly.
22:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21278 @ 0.00085872 = 18.2718 BTC [-] {2}
22:04 asciilifeform neat
22:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12163 @ 0.00085739 = 10.4284 BTC [-] {2}
22:05 BingoBoingo Well going to South America would make an incredibly torqued T-Bird easier to deliver
22:06 dignork Lol, got it from ukranian friends: http://imgur.com/ja0PCoE
22:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 83287 @ 0.00085643 = 71.3295 BTC [-] {3}
22:07 BingoBoingo dignork: STFU, none of those people have patches. They could be self defense units.
22:07 dignork BingoBoingo, i know, still funny
22:08 BingoBoingo dignork: Eat a dick, I am waiting for serious news, not more black ops OMGWTFBBQ dickign around.
22:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26100 @ 0.00085472 = 22.3082 BTC [-] {3}
22:08 copumpkin these MPOE sales aren't me, I promise
22:08 copumpkin just because I have my key back doesn't mean I'm dumping!
22:08 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: serious news << like a French invasion?
22:09 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: French or Sardinian work. Those new Raphaels are pretty hot shit.
22:09 dignork BingoBoingo, gosh, it was a joke, i have friends on both sides too.
22:09 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: why not Spanish? Chinese?
22:10 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: They weren't in Crimea I. French, British or Sardinian, baby that's what I need.
22:10 asciilifeform you left out turks.
22:11 BingoBoingo dignork: Hard to communicate umor over text without being permissive isn;t it.
22:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 135 @ 0.00466001 = 0.6291 BTC [+] {3}
22:11 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Turks would be forced into the same role, Black Sea gatekeepers
22:12 BingoBoingo ATM unless Turks decide otherwise the black sea is only for countries with Black sea borders
22:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 38 @ 0.006 = 0.228 BTC [-]
22:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.04324997 = 0.1297 BTC [+]
22:13 BingoBoingo Pretty much the same role the Ottmans professed to hold
22:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 187 @ 0.00597994 = 1.1182 BTC [-] {2}
22:15 Multivac According to Deadline, the White House has recommended that the Supreme Court rule against Aereo when broadcasters bring its service to trial this April.
22:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0436663 = 0.131 BTC [+] {2}
22:16 BingoBoingo I almost atm respect MRBigg the Ripple and Bearshare shill over Obama
22:17 dignork BingoBoingo, not really, sarcasm is a tricky one
22:17 BingoBoingo He nevar hid his hollywood shillness
22:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11450 @ 0.00086187 = 9.8684 BTC [+] {2}
22:25 mircea_popescu romania invades, takes over odessa
22:25 asciilifeform ahahaha
22:26 mircea_popescu dun dun dun
22:26 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: plz don't blow away the other cute cherub statue
22:26 asciilifeform in my old apt.
22:26 mircea_popescu lol
22:26 BingoBoingo Plz take little Egypt next
22:26 mircea_popescu ROMANIA TAKES IT ALL
22:27 BingoBoingo Missouri smells bad and we are tired of being neighbors
22:27 mircea_popescu Multivac hwo the fuck is this white house to "recommend" wtf.
22:27 BingoBoingo Mardigras weekend just happened and everything to the west smells like piss
22:28 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: always wondered, what % piss by volume, is... Ganges river.
22:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 8 @ 0.02120003 = 0.1696 BTC [-]
22:28 asciilifeform (assuming it is a physically meaningful question)
22:28 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: In the Ganges river case I'd guess at least 15%
22:29 mircea_popescu asciilifeform all surface water has been pissed on average four times
22:29 BingoBoingo Maybe some inbound amonium gets caught in clays, but...
22:29 asciilifeform well, that.
22:31 BingoBoingo Consider the Illinois river is mostly an untreated sewer flowing from Chicago and manages to support sufficient silver carp that baseball bats and armor are the prefered means for fishish them
22:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40900 @ 0.00085702 = 35.0521 BTC [-] {2}
22:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43492 @ 0.00085456 = 37.1665 BTC [-] {3}
22:34 MisterE Russia has been in control down there forever already
22:34 copumpkin omg MPOE selloff
22:34 MisterE they just 'formalizing' it
22:34 * copumpkin panic-sells
22:34 MisterE yea?
22:34 asciilifeform MisterE: in Chicago?
22:34 asciilifeform did i sleep through something?
22:35 MisterE well it's chicage
22:35 MisterE Russians would be just another gang of thugs :p
22:35 MisterE you'd outlast them
22:35 MisterE no I'm saying the Crimea
22:35 BingoBoingo MisterE: You mean they wouldn't outlast the Northside Polaks
22:35 MisterE russia already controlled it
22:36 BingoBoingo Oh, not Chicago talk
22:36 MisterE what do the Turks have to say?
22:36 MisterE that will be key
22:37 BingoBoingo Dunno any Chicago Turks
22:37 BingoBoingo Are the Turks gonna let the Sardinians ty to force Crimea to trade again?
22:38 MisterE I know there's a lot of history there and I don't know enough of it
22:38 MisterE basically lots of stacks of bodies
22:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46443 @ 0.00085431 = 39.6767 BTC [-] {2}
22:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27844 @ 0.0008541 = 23.7816 BTC [-] {2}
22:48 copumpkin quit selling all the MPOE!
23:00 benkay ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:16f67849951a6df2a9d019751e36e2526e1fc6309219382aedc8d87e
23:01 gribble You are now authenticated for user benkay with key 39F274AFBC7ACAC7
23:03 benkay !l m mpoe
23:03 assbot I don't give a shit who saw what and who did what or who did who.
23:03 BingoBoingo Watching Karl Urban in Almost Human I have to wonder... Why not just a Judge Dread serial?
23:03 benkay !h
23:03 assbot List of commands:
23:03 assbot !ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !t}
23:03 assbot !last <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns last price value, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !l}
23:03 assbot !mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
23:03 assbot !rules <nick/chan> (desc: chan guidelines) {short: !r}
23:03 assbot !exchanges <nick/chan> (desc: lists exchanges and brokers) {short: !e}
23:03 assbot !jd (desc: returns relevant stats from https://just-dice.com)
23:03 assbot !bash <lines> (desc: bashes last <lines> lines to bash) {short: !b}
23:03 assbot !quote <lines> (desc: quotes last <lines> lines and returns dpaste url) {short: !q}
23:03 BingoBoingo !jd
23:03 assbot Just-Dice stat: 14170 BTC profit, 40.6k BTC invested, 762.97 mio bets, 5.06 mio BTC wagered
23:03 benkay !t m s.mpoe
23:03 assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00085369 / 0.00085835 / 0.00086433 (1018179 shares, 873.96 BTC), 7D: 0.000745 / 0.00086217 / 0.00088851 (8430211 shares, 7,268.32 BTC), 30D: 0.000745 / 0.00087418 / 0.00094153 (29592229 shares, 25,868.96 BTC)
23:04 benkay !l m s.mpoe
23:04 assbot Last trade for S.MPOE on MPEX was at 0.0008541 BTC [-]
23:11 BingoBoingo You got a Bitcoin Stick?
23:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 19 @ 0.00543999 = 0.1034 BTC [+] {5}
23:12 benkay walk softly and carry a bitcoin stick.
23:14 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=498002.msg5496175#msg5496175
23:14 ozbot Calling out the Bitcoin Foundation Scam.
23:14 mircea_popescu and the plot trickens
23:15 BingoBoingo Trickens because BTC in itself now has gotten boring
23:16 BingoBoingo Gutten Borrin
23:16 BingoBoingo Here be the Bitten Coins
23:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23850 @ 0.0008493 = 20.2558 BTC [-] {2}
23:17 cokea i am good
23:17 cokea i was quoted by the WSJ for a troll post
23:17 cokea good life
23:19 Multivac Alert! Alert! MPOE-PR trying to destroy the Bitcoin!
23:23 diametric asciilifeform: finally found some pods for those logic analyzers i got.
23:23 asciilifeform diametric: neato! where ?
23:24 diametric ebay, some showed up finally, though almost all of them are way overpriced. $50-$150, found one for $10 though
23:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 57 @ 0.00466023 = 0.2656 BTC [+] {2}
23:26 asciilifeform diametric: drop a photo of the priceless antique here, for the others
23:26 diametric http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-HEWLETT-PACKARD-1651B-LOGIC-ANALYZER-/221036512792
23:27 diametric I own two of these beautiful machines
23:27 diametric but no pods.
23:27 diametric well until i get it hopefully next week
23:27 asciilifeform ought to post a pic of operating unit
23:27 asciilifeform it's well worth seeing
23:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.59988989 = 1.1998 BTC [+] {2}
23:28 diametric speaking of tools, still need my oscilloscope?
23:29 asciilifeform diametric: for the moment. i shall be done with it soon.
23:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44298 @ 0.00084722 = 37.5302 BTC [-]
23:29 * asciilifeform borrowed a very rare and spiffy instrument from diametric to test rngs.
23:32 KRS-One http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2014/03/bitcoin-exchange/
23:32 ozbot The Inside Story of Mt. Gox, Bitcoin's $460 Million Disaster | Wired Enterprise | Wired.com
23:32 KRS-One look at that stupid look on his fucking face
23:32 mircea_popescu lol gutten boring
23:32 KRS-One .bait
23:32 ozbot http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6i69aVcNe1r2mc2eo1_1280.jpg
23:32 KRS-One aw HELL ya
23:33 BingoBoingo Eh, My hometown was almsot genecided during the Great war.
23:34 Duffer1 https://blockchain.info/address/1BTCorgHwCg6u2YSAWKgS17qUad6kHmtQW
23:34 ozbot Bitcoin Address 1BTCorgHwCg6u2YSAWKgS17qUad6kHmtQW
23:34 Duffer1 bitcoin foundation donation address
23:35 twizt lol
23:35 twizt so many coins
23:35 Duffer1 i'm actually surprised they got less than labcoin
23:36 BingoBoingo Duffer1: I am not at all
23:37 BingoBoingo Also Duffer1 It is Monday, why are you not streaming Archer and watching a better alternate reality future for 'Murica?
23:39 Duffer1 i'm never sure when it's on, i always watch later
23:39 BingoBoingo Oh shit Duffer1 Illegally stream it nao
23:43 BingoBoingo Highway to the Danger Zone
23:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00466051 = 0.233 BTC [+]
23:44 mod6 archer++
23:46 MisterE http://news.yahoo.com/giant-virus-resurrected-permafrost-30-000-years-202120390.html
23:46 ozbot Giant Virus Resurrected from Permafrost After 30,000 Years - Yahoo News
23:50 BingoBoingo MisterE: Quiet, we are trying to hook Mircea up with a monster hotrod
23:53 MisterE that rod is for insertion...
23:53 MisterE you sure you're doing it the right way?
23:54 BingoBoingo Insertion, where I dun care, he has more experience in this I supposed a dude who could put dumptrucks in ford escorts. He wanted dumptruck motors in a ThunerBird, and Imma trying to get the hillbilly's email.
23:55 MisterE heh crazy
23:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.599945 = 1.1999 BTC [+] {2}
23:57 gesell1 did anyone try to call MTgox today?
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