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00:00 BingoBoingo Gracie is an ugly cat though
00:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 297 @ 0.00500236 = 1.4857 BTC [-] {4}
00:02 moiety i am officially in love. those cats are amazing, they havent changed!
00:02 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
00:05 moiety seriously, this thing just gets better: "When it is threatened it raises and quivers the upper lip, Elvis like, revealing a large canine tooth."
00:06 mircea_popescu sooo pirate named names huh.
00:07 Duffer1 vegas conference attendees as far as i saw /didn't read the whole thing though
00:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 43 @ 0.00553604 = 0.238 BTC [-] {6}
00:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.04279995 = 0.1284 BTC [+] {2}
00:08 benkay some preferential treatment disclosed.
00:08 mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/486/james-gibson-aka-gigavps-to-be-named-as/
00:08 ozbot BitBet - James Gibson aka gigavps to be named as Pirate ponzi scheme fraudulent beneficiary
00:08 benkay hey mircea_popescu is Vandroidy still around?
00:08 mircea_popescu that should be quite interesting.
00:08 mircea_popescu benkay sort-of.
00:09 benkay sort-of?
00:09 mircea_popescu ;;later tell jborkl shocking, i tell ya.
00:09 gribble The operation succeeded.
00:09 mircea_popescu ;;later tell gigavps how's it going scammer boy ?
00:09 gribble The operation succeeded.
00:09 BingoBoingo lol
00:09 mircea_popescu idiot.
00:10 BingoBoingo Just think, time machine and you could have killed BTCST in November 2011
00:10 mircea_popescu you mean april.
00:10 BingoBoingo Maybe even April 2011 for 500BTC
00:10 mircea_popescu o 2011. heh.
00:10 mircea_popescu you know i wasn't even there ;/
00:10 BingoBoingo But then you'd miss Harnet
00:10 mircea_popescu what do you want from me, i only showed up that summer
00:11 mircea_popescu takes someone A FEW MONTHS to catch up and spread the roots you know ?
00:11 mircea_popescu kinda how i ended up with "6 months". if it took me ~3...
00:12 BingoBoingo Oh, if only S.TimeMachine was a thing
00:12 mircea_popescu anyway, BingoBoingo : if i HAD done that, for all the laurels and glory (which no noobs can be bothered to even know about, so... it doesn't help THEM) the "community" of fucktards would have actually fallen for a much bigger ponzi much later,
00:12 mircea_popescu that i'd have been equally powerless to do anything about
00:13 BingoBoingo Eh, much later ponzi might have taught more
00:13 mircea_popescu because the scammer would have said "this time it's different", and the way the primate brain works that'd have been enough.
00:13 mircea_popescu so... ironically it'd have been a lot worse for everyone.
00:13 BingoBoingo These are the reasons I drink to consult my lizard brain
00:13 mircea_popescu heh
00:13 benkay oh, there won't be any more ponzi's in bitcoin?
00:14 mircea_popescu benkay yes, there will be. just copumpkin won't be whitenighting them.
00:14 mircea_popescu which obviously i mean in a general manner. well meaning but naive geeks will know to defer that time
00:14 mircea_popescu as they didn't previously.
00:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39711 @ 0.00082727 = 32.8517 BTC [+]
00:16 benkay if not last season's socks, a new seasons. what's the actual difference?
00:16 mircea_popescu no, there's a difference.
00:16 mircea_popescu bitcoin is non inflationary. this makes early things dwarf late things in importance.
00:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.11300001 = 0.226 BTC [-]
00:17 mircea_popescu anyway, funny how this guy's brain works. so he gets summoned, and he responds. *then* he feigns to ignore further proceedings.
00:17 mircea_popescu which, as you pointed out, is real fucking smart. and now he actually responds.
00:18 mircea_popescu possibly worst legal strategy of the century award.
00:18 benkay twitter 'strategy'
00:18 Duffer1 that and going it without representation
00:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.11300001 = 0.226 BTC [-]
00:18 benkay mircea_popescu would have you believe representation is for the weak of mind, Duffer1
00:18 Duffer1 and admitting to not reading the subpeona where it asks him to retain certain information..
00:19 mircea_popescu benkay wait what ?!
00:19 mircea_popescu o o nm i read it backwards. yes, it is. and yes, he is. so...
00:20 mircea_popescu ahahahaah o jesus god, "do you know reeses_ name ?" "art. a-r-t" "and last name ?" "i have no idea"
00:20 mircea_popescu "and do you watch seinfeld ?" "yes i do!" "do you understand anything ?" "well as much as anyone on the forum ever understands of what's going on before their eyes
00:20 mircea_popescu "
00:21 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: It took the SEC dude to throw out Giga's last name
00:21 mircea_popescu what was it, "llc" ?
00:22 mircea_popescu hay folks my name is james llc, for srs. let's do some business which then i'll pretend is covered by the company named after me.
00:22 BingoBoingo lol
00:22 benkay didja get to "business cognition"?
00:22 mircea_popescu because that is totally how limited liability works, you hafta not disclose it and misrepresent it to be shielded.
00:23 mircea_popescu benkay i'm not reading that shit, just got some parts sent over
00:23 mircea_popescu why, is it that good ?
00:24 benkay it's what he owes his father or uncle some money for
00:24 benkay http://www.linkedin.com/company/business-cognition
00:24 ozbot Business Cognition | LinkedIn
00:24 benkay resolving to http://www.buscog.com/
00:24 mircea_popescu heh.
00:24 mircea_popescu you know it makes you wonder aboput the united states.
00:24 mircea_popescu in that you know, twentysomethings end up in troubkel all over the world, by virtue of being kids
00:25 mircea_popescu but they customarily hide their stupidity from family and esp senior male relatives
00:25 mircea_popescu in the us tho, it's backwards, they do it as a joint venture. so are there no males in that country over the mental age of ~17 or what the fuck ?
00:26 mircea_popescu i mean i used to think it's only the case for poor black people, lil wayne and whatnot. then i thought it's only the case for poor people generally. now i'm starting to think its simply what the murican male is. the us culture, if you will.
00:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 700 @ 0.0001865 = 0.1306 BTC [-]
00:26 BingoBoingo Of the two parts of the Pirate at 40 shit, part one is definitely the lulzier one
00:27 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo or whoever feels like it : why not make a curated version on yer blogs ?
00:27 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: It is too old for me to provide solid context.
00:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 25 @ 0.004041 = 0.101 BTC [-]
00:27 mircea_popescu (the hidden benefit here is this : through curating it you expose your unknowledge to scrutiny, ie, if you cut out something that turns out to have been important you get to learn it was, and so fix your head)
00:28 benkay i've published some bits.
00:28 BingoBoingo I really haven't found unimportant bits yet.
00:28 mircea_popescu benkay ya but it has to be exhaustive for the thing to work, otherwise the narcissist self always cops out to "Well it was just some bits". and besides, weren't you coding ?
00:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.0428 = 0.2568 BTC [+]
00:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 60 @ 0.004041 = 0.2425 BTC [-]
00:29 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo well then that's also illustrative :D
00:29 benkay should be yeah
00:29 BingoBoingo There's stupid from both Pirate and the SEC stooge
00:30 BingoBoingo Eastern District of Texas is a BTC no mans land
00:30 chetty hmm I wonder, the SEC seems to be trying to imply that BigOne and #2 were the same person, wonder if they have somethiing there? If either one actually existed of course
00:30 benkay there's a pretty hilarious interchange where Shavers says something retarded and the stooge asks "you're getting a job at support dot com, right?"
00:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 22 @ 0.0055 = 0.121 BTC
00:32 joecool benkay: when i saw that i remembered noted other OTC scammer aethero works at support.com
00:32 BingoBoingo chetty: I think SEC is trying to trap that BIg One and Number two are figments of Pirate's imagination
00:32 joecool those two are probably BFF's
00:32 BingoBoingo joecool: They might be the same
00:33 joecool aethero sure had a lot of figments of his imagination
00:33 HeySteve I linked to MPOE-PR's Bitcoin Foundation thread, I think it's good they get called to account
00:33 joecool aethero still has great trust :P
00:33 joecool ;;gettrust aethero
00:33 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user joecool to user aethero: Level 1: -10, Level 2: 3 via 18 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=joecool&dest=aethero | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=aethero | Rated since: Wed May 2 19:24:52 2012
00:34 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo by the way, an important point : the reason the "media" sucks is not that they've sold out or follow external policies or w/e. it's that they are writing WITH THEIR READER IN MIND. the former then flows from this naturally, but it does not make a difference if you write with the reader in mind so as to advertise to it, or save its soul or merely inform it. it's all the same, and it's wrong.
00:34 mircea_popescu write for yourself, as your own thing. think of it as picking up women : you don't puick up women by picking up women, you pick up women by doing *any other thing*
00:35 mircea_popescu joecool course in fairness aethero is more like noted lunatic.
00:36 mircea_popescu and he doesn't seem to have that great trust neh ?
00:36 mircea_popescu ;;gettrust aethero
00:36 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user aethero: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 17 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=aethero | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=aethero | Rated since: Wed May 2 19:24:52 2012
00:36 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Well it turn out this n00b sports betting guide is turning in to a bunch of parts I need to organize for my own benefit.
00:36 BingoBoingo A good portion of it is already in the logs
00:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 308 @ 0.004041 = 1.2446 BTC [-]
00:37 mircea_popescu a ok, that works too.
00:37 benkay heh i saw EV- and moved on
00:37 BingoBoingo It's just the machine language of the lizard brain I consult for bets is rather dense.
00:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7150 @ 0.00082658 = 5.91 BTC [-]
00:38 BingoBoingo benkay: SOme bets can be plus EV, It is just there is a 2+ month wait between those.
00:38 benkay i'm already long bitcoin
00:38 benkay seems crazy enough for this decade
00:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 53 @ 0.004041 = 0.2142 BTC [-] {2}
00:39 BingoBoingo Gambling as entertainment and Gambling as pseudo-investment are very different things.
00:39 mircea_popescu gesus god check out asciilifeform being quotable : http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-03-2014#548251 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-03-2014#548254
00:39 mircea_popescu it's like he's on a roll
00:39 BingoBoingo As a mentioned a while ago the best reason to bet on an outcome is to make the watching it more enjoyable
00:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 459 @ 0.004041 = 1.8548 BTC [-] {2}
00:40 BingoBoingo Yeah asciilifeform has been so quatable today
00:41 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: even linked http://i.imgur.com/hKk5a77.jpg
00:41 mircea_popescu im totally stealing this and publishing it myself.
00:41 mircea_popescu it's too good.
00:42 BingoBoingo lol
00:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00082727 = 1.9027 BTC [+]
00:43 mircea_popescu cads so ask.
00:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 54 @ 0.004041 = 0.2182 BTC [-]
00:46 Duffer1 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=502567.0
00:46 ozbot Project Abro
00:46 Duffer1 "Whatever I talk, I do with you, for you must benefit you. Further, the funds you spend on my way to be purposefully utilized."
00:46 benkay ABROOOOOO
00:46 benkay amazing
00:46 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
00:47 Namworld Buzzword cesspool?
00:47 Duffer1 omg
00:48 Duffer1 i can't even describe that post
00:48 Namworld High as fuck?
00:48 cads haha, I like it
00:48 Namworld Mental institute fugitive?
00:49 cads I"m reading it in alec baldwin's voice.
00:49 Duffer1 lol
00:49 benkay Most of the time people can't express their feelings. It has to be thrown out. Once it is thrown out, he/she feels light and refreshed.
00:49 benkay This is the kind of service I'm offering here.
00:49 benkay Consider me representing the one who troubled you, or I'm the situation that made you into trouble.
00:49 benkay You might have to throw out all your frustrations, feelings etc.
00:49 mircea_popescu maybe we're finally seeing markov chain ipos
00:49 benkay I will get in touch with you in skype.
00:49 benkay Scold me, spit at me, and express all of your feelings. Use all the filthy words as you can. Once you have done, your mind is filtered out with all the frustrations.
00:49 benkay Your life will become beautiful. You get enormous energy. You will succeed in all your activities then.
00:49 benkay Still, again someone will trouble you. Come again, take my skype session and spit at me. You will feel better.
00:49 benkay While chatting if your feelings are very strong, I may scream for you. Don't stop, continue till the session ends.
00:49 Duffer1 it's an ipo for a pyramid scam that's also a futures bond and a cult
00:49 benkay If you are not in a desire to spit at me, you may even let your neighbor/friend or anyone to utilize the service and spit at me.
00:49 benkay i think this is something the forum needs to be chumpatron'd with
00:50 mircea_popescu Duffer1 sounds just about descriptive of the moss that's in between average joe's ears.
00:50 Duffer1 i can't agree this time, this is a special kind of fail
00:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.004041 = 1.2123 BTC [-]
00:51 cads hahaha
00:51 Namworld Abro is love, Abro is life. All praise Abro.
00:52 Namworld Is he ipoing the universe? He's ipoing the universe.
00:53 BingoBoingo https://twitter.com/RealCarrotFacts/status/441416835976925184
00:53 ozbot Twitter / RealCarrotFacts: Carrot taste good even if you ...
00:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.004041 = 0.8082 BTC [-]
00:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6586 @ 0.00082658 = 5.4439 BTC [-]
00:59 benkay abro akbar
01:00 BingoBoingo lol
01:00 BingoBoingo Anyone else see SVU tonight?
01:00 moiety wtaf is that post?! i like the mandatory note for "the service"
01:01 moiety the btctalk one ^
01:01 Duffer1 the whole thread so far is fucking brilliant
01:03 BingoBoingo http://www.examiner.com/article/feline-internet-sensation-colonel-meow-dies
01:03 ozbot Feline Internet sensation Colonel Meow dies - Chicago Cats | Examiner.com
01:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 30 @ 0.004041 = 0.1212 BTC [-]
01:07 benkay i just realized that we have b-list feline internet celebrites
01:07 BingoBoingo benkay: We do indeed
01:07 benkay okay i get it mircea_popescu a penny from every human on earth makes for pathological everything
01:07 mircea_popescu waitwat?
01:08 benkay pennies from everyone and spears and such
01:08 mircea_popescu i think you all've been cooped in here too long, and you're approaching some sort of mystical breakthrough of which i'm sadly left out :(
01:09 benkay britney spears
01:10 moiety how has there been a webz cat i didn't know about :o
01:10 BingoBoingo Eh, in about 8 hours I'm driving 200 miles for a decent lunch. Well, maybe a bit more than 8 hours from nao. Depends how long I am passed out.
01:11 moiety 200 miles :o
01:11 moiety its not icy is it?
01:12 BingoBoingo moiety: Not icy atm, just driving 200 miles for 15 minutes of errand and lunch.
01:12 moiety oh god have you seen arscoin?
01:12 BingoBoingo If only Dooglus ran this casino http://gawker.com/gambler-sues-casino-over-the-500-000-he-lost-while-bla-1537450594
01:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.004041 = 2.0205 BTC [-]
01:13 moiety http://arstechnica.com/business/2014/03/behold-arscoin-our-own-custom-cryptocurrency/
01:13 ozbot Behold Arscoin, our own custom cryptocurrency | Ars Technica
01:13 moiety wut
01:13 benkay old nooz
01:14 benkay also webwallet onry i hear
01:14 BingoBoingo Premined scam
01:14 moiety but but you can buy a gold username!
01:14 moiety wtaf
01:15 moiety is the GnuTLS bug old news too? im so slow
01:16 benkay mhm
01:16 benkay hey moiety have you heard about the multicoin wallet?
01:16 benkay they herd u liek crypto and obfuscated the source so they can steal your coins while you doge
01:18 moiety i heard they were wanting to make one but i didn't know it had come to fruition
01:18 benkay http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/03/05_multicoinwallet-considered-harmful.html
01:18 ozbot MultiCoinWallet: Considered Harmful
01:20 benkay not to imply you yourself are a thick sucker
01:20 benkay you're in -assets, after all.
01:20 benkay an assette!
01:23 moiety lol i like it
01:23 moiety the wallet not so much, good article. i wouldn't have touched it with someone else's anyways
01:25 moiety ha i like the next one too
01:25 moiety you need a subscribing list
01:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.58999999 BTC [-]
01:26 BingoBoingo benkay is good at turning out the really pointed messages
01:26 moiety he is very to-the-point, which = win
01:27 moiety that lol
01:27 mircea_popescu asciilifeform kakobrekla cazalla http://trilema.com/2014/hi-this-is-the-article-title/
01:27 mircea_popescu benkay ah ah yes.
01:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.0040401 = 0.404 BTC [-]
01:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 3000 @ 0.00089005 = 2.6702 BTC [-] {2}
01:29 Duffer1 http://www.extremetech.com/computing/177882-massive-linux-security-flaw-dwarfs-apples-cryptography-problems-of-just-last-week
01:29 ozbot Massive Linux security flaw dwarfs Apple’s cryptography problems of just last week | ExtremeTech
01:30 mircea_popescu yeh was here last week but worth repeating.
01:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1717 @ 0.00396239 = 6.8034 BTC [-] {10}
01:30 moiety i just heard of it today too
01:31 BingoBoingo Oh, Archer mentioned Bitcoin this week
01:32 mircea_popescu which archer
01:33 Duffer1 tv show
01:33 mircea_popescu "Allowing drunk patrons to gamble and serving obviously intoxicated patrons are both illegal under Nevada law. Johnston's lawyer says his client's story is bolstered by surveillance video and eyewitness testimony."
01:34 mircea_popescu this is actually a bit of a problem, people can sit down at their computer drunk as fuck and think hye, gamble my whole wallet on dice!
01:34 mircea_popescu obviously not the dice site's problem, but also kind-of dangerous for the random idiot.
01:34 BingoBoingo And this is why Dice suck.
01:34 mircea_popescu well maybe.
01:35 mike_c because you've never blown money on sports while drunk ;)
01:35 mircea_popescu tbh i think dices have a future, but as backing for other services. they're currently exposed to the general public becaus e whatever, we're in the pdp and vax days over here.
01:35 mircea_popescu but generally speaking, the dice model is the engine that can power a lot of cool applications down the road.
01:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1500 @ 0.00089 = 1.335 BTC [-]
01:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 204 @ 0.00386019 = 0.7875 BTC [-] {3}
01:35 BingoBoingo mike_c: Actually totally plaster in sports have offered much better returns than sober and axious
01:36 mircea_popescu i wonder if the same is true of the players.
01:36 mike_c it is at least more fun
01:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 39 @ 0.0038518 = 0.1502 BTC [-] {2}
01:37 mircea_popescu i wonder if superbowl/whatever advertising sports will eventualyl run out of money so bad they'll add new rules such as "each player must drink twelve shots of vodka before going on the field"
01:37 BingoBoingo I've only had one huge gambling loss totally plastered.
01:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 390 @ 0.00385512 = 1.5035 BTC [+] {3}
01:38 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: They might. For football it might be necessary. Actually the biggest PED among handegg players I've seen is the ganja.
01:38 cazalla mircea_popescu: can i put that mention on my resume? seriously though, there is much to learn here for someone like me
01:38 mircea_popescu cazalla lol sure.
01:38 mircea_popescu whatever you do to your resume it can't end up worse than that exchange expert guy from a while back
01:41 BingoBoingo Seriously, baseball's saving grace is it mixes the randomness of dice with the potential for talent
01:45 BingoBoingo Hashtag! DangerZone
01:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 32 @ 0.57191533 = 18.3013 BTC [-] {12}
01:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.0039 = 1.17 BTC [+]
01:55 mircea_popescu please allow me to spam :
01:55 mircea_popescu Q: Next account, Gigavps, is this a true and accurate reflection of Gigavps' account history with Bitcoin Savings & Trust from on or about April 3rd, 2012 through on or about August 22, 2012 ?
01:55 mircea_popescu A: No.
01:55 mircea_popescu Q: What stands out at you as being incorrect?
01:55 mircea_popescu A: I'll just know I used it a lot.
01:55 mircea_popescu Q: For what?
01:55 mircea_popescu A: For moving transactions.
01:55 mircea_popescu Q: Meaning for Bitcoin Savings & Trust Investment transactions?
01:55 mircea_popescu A: Yes. And he had a separate account that was a hidden account.
01:55 mircea_popescu Q: A hidden account?
01:55 mircea_popescu A: Yes.
01:55 mircea_popescu Q: What do you mean by that?
01:55 mircea_popescu A: Just an account used for basically his own lending account. They borrow coins real quickly to make cash transactions and stuff.
01:55 mircea_popescu Q: From you?
01:55 mircea_popescu A: Correct.
01:55 mircea_popescu Q: What was his user name on that account?
01:56 mircea_popescu A: I guess Gigavps, but it wasn't on Bitcoin Savings & Trust.
01:56 mircea_popescu Q: Why doesn't it appear in this raw data?
01:56 mircea_popescu A: Because it wasn't on there. It wasn't on this database or on this website. It was tracked through a - what was that - not Sales Force. I can't remember the name of the website. It was something we just worked out together. And it has a lot of his transactions. This account looks mostly like my stuff.
01:56 mircea_popescu Q: Meaning --
01:56 mircea_popescu A: 2002 --
01:56 mircea_popescu Q: What do you mean by "my stuff"?
01:56 mircea_popescu A: And then $500 deposit from Imsaguy?
01:56 mircea_popescu Q: What do you mean "my stuff"?
01:56 mircea_popescu A: Core stuff. This isn't all --
01:56 mircea_popescu Q: You mean Bitcoin Savings & Trust investment activity?
01:56 mircea_popescu A: This isn't all of the transactions there.
01:56 mircea_popescu Q: Next account, Goat.
01:59 BingoBoingo Oh, and copumpkin was the doxxed one
01:59 mircea_popescu what, you didn't know his name ?
01:59 * copumpkin knew his name
02:00 mircea_popescu he fucking sends email with his name on it, what's not to know.
02:00 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: I knew it, but not in a court filing.
02:00 copumpkin get with the times
02:00 copumpkin lol, you google my nick my name is the first result
02:00 mircea_popescu i guess.
02:00 copumpkin I'm not exactly secretive
02:00 BingoBoingo I mean Pirateat40 know copumkin's full name, but only James for GigaVPS
02:00 mircea_popescu yes, but then pirate was an idiot.
02:00 copumpkin he's also muddying things by lying
02:00 copumpkin all over the placE :)
02:01 mircea_popescu copumpkin no ?!
02:01 copumpkin believe it or not!
02:01 mircea_popescu i thought fraudsters never lie in court.
02:01 mircea_popescu all this comes as news to me.
02:01 copumpkin there was no way for pirate to think that goat's name is chaang noi :P
02:01 BingoBoingo lol
02:01 mircea_popescu right.
02:01 copumpkin that's just retarded
02:01 copumpkin I was amazed at how much crap he spewed in there
02:01 BingoBoingo Pudgy white kid named Chaang Noi
02:02 mircea_popescu actually... he only came up with chaang noi after his 6 months of laying low for the bst to blow over.
02:02 copumpkin I think he got himself into more trouble there than he would be in if he'd just admitted it
02:02 mircea_popescu well actually... i think in his case the meth defense cuts in
02:02 mircea_popescu (ie, there's an absolute lowest limit a judge'll allow for self-critting idiocy, otherwise anyone from the inner cities would be doing >9k years)
02:03 BingoBoingo Well this is just a civil case
02:03 mircea_popescu this is really the reason prosecutions are so successful in the us. it's not really some sort of nefarious police stat
02:03 mircea_popescu e/nasizm thing as some suggest. it's simply that most defendants are too stupid to live
02:03 copumpkin and the guy is getting the SEC to drive him there in a car cause he doesn't have a car anymore
02:03 copumpkin kind of sad
02:03 mircea_popescu and if they were taken seriously they'd be just... you know, off to soylent plant
02:04 mircea_popescu wait, no lambo ?
02:04 mircea_popescu sec should buy a lambo.
02:04 copumpkin apparently not!
02:04 copumpkin they should ask the FBI for some of those SR coins and buy that mclaren that went up recently
02:04 copumpkin fuck lambos
02:04 mircea_popescu mclaren HONDA ?
02:04 BingoBoingo Oh, the reasons I found a drive through miracle maker for my disorderly conduct misdemeanor, allegedly
02:05 copumpkin mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=499965.0
02:05 copumpkin you should get it
02:05 mircea_popescu i don't drive
02:05 copumpkin high five
02:05 copumpkin I get driven
02:05 mircea_popescu i also don't care for sportsters.
02:06 * copumpkin crosses arms smugly
02:06 copumpkin mircea_popescu is too cool to drive, walks around with an open shirt on the street
02:06 mircea_popescu definitely.
02:06 mircea_popescu (and my zipper's not done in that shot, either)
02:06 BingoBoingo Eh, I'll keep driving the shitty family sedan. No one suspects...
02:07 copumpkin oh I wasn't checking
02:07 B007 how do you have money and not drive?
02:07 B007 or at least own cars
02:08 BingoBoingo B007: Well Mircea has slaves, and copumpkin something?
02:08 copumpkin I don't have a license
02:08 copumpkin I get by without :)
02:09 mircea_popescu https://www.google.com/search?q=Mercedes-Benz+E+230+(W210)&complete=0 << that, for instance, is imo one of the best cars ever made.
02:10 mircea_popescu B007 i have cars, sometimes. i had dozens at some point. i jus' don't drive.
02:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.59098897 = 2.364 BTC [+] {3}
02:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59098898 BTC [+]
02:11 mircea_popescu "Pirate: And when I find that information, I will give you the updated information and show you that this was not a Ponzi scam. Just give me time. I promise you."
02:11 mircea_popescu that's some epic shit right there.
02:12 BingoBoingo lol
02:12 copumpkin I liked the bit where they said "so wait, your company folded and you're in trouble now because someone screwed you out of 202k coins, and you forget who that someone is?"
02:12 BingoBoingo Document one was the lulzier doc
02:12 mircea_popescu i pity that moustakis guy.
02:12 copumpkin that was a long-ass interview
02:12 copumpkin must've been exhausting for both of them
02:13 mircea_popescu it's like you sign up to be a chiropractor, and you end up sent to practice in the loony bin
02:13 copumpkin moustakis had to stay focused to catch all the crap the guy was saying, and I'm sure pirate was in overdrive trying to crank out more crap
02:13 BingoBoingo Eh, looney bin ain't bad
02:13 mircea_popescu copumpkin no, not for both of them. romanian expression is "nu te pune cu prostu' c-are mintea odihnita"
02:13 mircea_popescu which says, don't mess with the stupid, his brain's well rested.
02:13 BingoBoingo Get crayons
02:14 copumpkin mircea_popescu: I dunno, there were several pretty awkward moments when it was clear he'd been caught in a lie
02:14 mircea_popescu so i take it you read this whole thing ? carefully ?
02:14 copumpkin I'm sure he was freaking out and trying to come up with more convincing crap
02:14 copumpkin well, I read the whole thing, not sure carefully fits
02:14 mircea_popescu how about you make a full length treatment of the whole thing, with notes ?
02:14 mircea_popescu i'd read it.
02:14 copumpkin lol
02:14 mircea_popescu are you under counsel to stfu or anything ?
02:14 copumpkin I'd rather sleep
02:14 copumpkin no, not at all
02:14 mircea_popescu fuck sleep.
02:15 mircea_popescu srsly, it's the best thing you can do right now.
02:15 mircea_popescu for "the community", or w/e you call it.
02:15 copumpkin lol
02:15 copumpkin fuck that
02:15 copumpkin sleep :)
02:15 mircea_popescu irsrs tho.
02:15 joecool store your passwords with him
02:15 copumpkin I'm sure you can find someone with less valuable time to summarize the shit
02:15 BingoBoingo copumpkin: The veggies need their prison tomorrow. When you wake...
02:15 copumpkin joecool: you've made that joke before, it's getting old
02:15 mircea_popescu copumpkin you're in a very good position because you have the skill and the experience.
02:16 mircea_popescu what, you think i just sprout this shit randomly cause i'm bored on irc
02:16 BingoBoingo copumpkin: My time is probably the least valuable, but your insight is probably the most.
02:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 700 @ 0.00385004 = 2.695 BTC [-] {7}
02:16 copumpkin I'm sure if this goes anywhere serious they'll call on me to testify
02:16 joecool copumpkin: :( cranky
02:16 copumpkin not that I'll really want to
02:16 copumpkin :P
02:16 copumpkin given how much the fucker talks about me
02:16 mircea_popescu if that does happen, this write-up will be a great thing to have.
02:16 copumpkin it seems almost inevitable
02:17 BingoBoingo copumpkin: DO a writeup in the next couple weeks, GPG sign it
02:17 copumpkin I don't see what the benefit would be
02:17 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo for this purpose publishing beats signing.
02:18 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Given the nothingness published pre-August2012 publishing means little. "Shall be delivered"
02:18 mircea_popescu copumpkin the usual benefit. a furthering of human knowledge on a topic.
02:18 BingoBoingo Volume of text versus affirmed text
02:18 mircea_popescu seeing how rthis topic is bitcoin, it kind-of trumps any other topic, even if some other topic may offer the illusion of importance.
02:19 copumpkin mircea_popescu: I'm not opposed to it, but am not in a huge rush to spend my time on it either :) and would rather it be done in a formal setting so someone else can take care of summarizing/transcribing it :P
02:19 BingoBoingo Of course.
02:19 copumpkin lol
02:19 copumpkin it doesn't trump that I have to get up for work in a few hours and need my beauty sleep
02:19 mircea_popescu if you note, i said "full length treatment, with notes"
02:19 mircea_popescu that does not map on "summarize"
02:19 copumpkin pfft
02:19 BingoBoingo I honestly am beneath this project
02:20 mircea_popescu anyway. sleep well.
02:20 copumpkin but anyway, as I said, I'm not opposed to doing that at some point :) thanks
02:21 BingoBoingo I got the /. twice, but I am beneath the background necessary to treat this right
02:21 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo i just went through the list of names there, which remarkably i had pretty accurate to begin with. crossing out the outright liars, like psychological compulsive sort, and the idiots, you're left with maybe 2-3 names
02:22 mircea_popescu and i don't think reeses_ is even paying attention anymore.
02:23 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: My list is comprable, but I the weight the "testimony" offer weighs so little on names I've assumed more guilty.
02:23 BingoBoingo http://www.metrolyrics.com/the-man-comes-around-lyrics-johnny-cash.html?ModPagespeed=noscript
02:23 ozbot Johnny Cash - The Man Comes Around Lyrics | MetroLyrics
02:25 BingoBoingo You still wake up sometimes, don't you? You wake up in the dark and hear the screaming of the lambs. And you think if you save poor Catherine, you could make them stop, don't you? You think if Catherine lives, you won't wake up in the dark ever again to that awful screaming of the lambs.
02:25 BingoBoingo All those delicious lambs.
02:25 mircea_popescu anyway this shit is pretty epic, it wasn't that zeek rewards went under, it's just that he can't remember who had 200k btc
02:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 392 @ 0.00385 = 1.5092 BTC [-] {2}
02:25 BingoBoingo Did anyone have 200k BTC?
02:26 moiety lol new reply to abro thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=502567.msg5541511#msg5541511
02:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 614 @ 0.00385 = 2.3639 BTC [-] {2}
02:27 BingoBoingo First principles, Simplicity. Read Aristotle. Of each particular thing ask: what is it in itself? What is its nature? What does he do, this man you seek?
02:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 75 @ 0.00385 = 0.2888 BTC [-]
02:28 BingoBoingo Oh, NeoButt is crashing
02:30 mircea_popescu GNULinuxGuy did you end up buying in ?
02:30 mircea_popescu lol moiety
02:30 BingoBoingo This spring it takes what? 2 BTC to kill Harnett's bankerness? AAA-???BBQ
02:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.07634752 = 0.4581 BTC [-] {2}
02:32 mircea_popescu well no cause there isn't one.
02:32 mircea_popescu it's free!
02:34 mircea_popescu so basically all the aurora crap ACTUALLY WAS strictly intended to win the bitbet bet.
02:34 mircea_popescu qed, fuckers.
02:36 BingoBoingo BitBet needs better submissions
02:37 mircea_popescu defo.
02:37 mircea_popescu someone was doing futures i saw
02:37 BingoBoingo Lol
02:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59079997 BTC [-]
02:38 mircea_popescu wha ?
02:38 BingoBoingo Mystery futures market maker
02:39 BingoBoingo Making serious markets
02:39 BingoBoingo While maintaining serious mystery
02:39 mircea_popescu sounds like a coin
02:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 30 @ 0.07634753 = 2.2904 BTC [+]
02:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.59079997 = 5.3172 BTC [-] {3}
02:40 BingoBoingo I know a bunch of -assets people's Bitbet payout addresses and this bettor isn't obviously one.
02:40 BingoBoingo Especially since BTC taint is not a thing.
02:40 BingoBoingo Bitbet marketing must be good.
02:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.5974257 = 4.182 BTC [+] {4}
02:41 mircea_popescu well ok, but "i know" means i know some not i know all in this context neh ?
02:41 mircea_popescu "like, i know my wife's husband and he happens to be me"
02:41 mircea_popescu sure, if you say so. last night she said differently.
02:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.076 = 1.52 BTC [-]
02:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00389995 = 0.195 BTC [+] {2}
02:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5959998 BTC [-]
02:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.60949995 = 1.8285 BTC [+] {2}
02:44 BingoBoingo Well in this case I know a wife was active. My wife was missing. I however do not know that any wife of mine was involved with any of these activities.
02:44 jcpham half truths mircea_popescu
02:44 jcpham it's atangled web
02:44 mircea_popescu surely.
02:44 BingoBoingo Lovely things about BTC
02:44 mircea_popescu "Law Office of Clifford Lloyd"
02:44 mircea_popescu ouch
02:44 BingoBoingo .bait
02:44 ozbot http://24.media.tumblr.com/ff686c03ae04aed06b98d851163facd0/tumblr_mtm0wsfZgm1ro13l2o1_1280.jpg
02:45 mircea_popescu if someone ends up disbared over pirate's dumb ass that'll be the lol of all time.
02:46 BingoBoingo Pirate seems to have months of lols left
02:46 BingoBoingo And in a civil suit.
02:48 BingoBoingo Only in Bitcoin-exile is such a thing possible
02:50 BingoBoingo Oh, so many problems here as well http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2014/03/salmonella_and_raw_eggs_how_i_ve_eaten_tons_of_cookie_dough_and_never_gotten.html Bedtime though
02:50 B007 and this is how you pump & dump http://s29.postimg.org/z0dwcl4rb/bitcoin.png
02:55 B007 I made 78 in a day
02:55 B007 im so proud
03:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24389 @ 0.00082727 = 20.1763 BTC [+]
03:09 mircea_popescu uh
03:10 B007 huh
03:14 mircea_popescu http://buttcoin.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/pirateat40-destroyed.png that's pretty good stuff lol
03:15 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo i dunno where you get the "civil proceedings" notions from.
03:16 mircea_popescu guy just gave himself a criminal contempt count.
03:16 B007 is that guy fuked ? I think so
03:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43124 @ 0.00083231 = 35.8925 BTC [+] {5}
03:19 mircea_popescu that is oral culture at its finest. this guy is not part of contemporaneity, or even modernity. he finds himself in a roughly feudal time. back before literacy.
03:19 mircea_popescu further proof that teaching kids to read and write is not either sufficient or particularly related to literacy.
03:20 B007 ofc you can't make people read if they dont want to
03:21 mircea_popescu you can make people do absolutely anything they should be doing, provided you're comitted to beating them to death if they do not, and start before they're 5.
03:22 B007 but will they continue after the person that would beat them is gone?
03:22 chetty yeah, it becomes habit
03:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 14 @ 0.08203571 = 1.1485 BTC [-] {5}
03:22 mircea_popescu http://buttcoin.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Screen-Shot-2014-03-05-at-1.34.57-PM.png
03:22 mircea_popescu meanwhile... http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/smickles-icbitse-affidavit.txt
03:23 mircea_popescu hey D : someone over there ain't doing their job of reading properly.
03:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 22 @ 0.04282717 = 0.9422 BTC [+] {5}
03:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12350 @ 0.0008336 = 10.295 BTC [+]
03:25 mircea_popescu B007 yes, it will continue. not even strictly of habit, as chetty says. take washing : once you get used to your smell when you're clean, you're not likely to stop washing.
03:26 mircea_popescu but if you're used to your smell being filthy, you'll just keep on doing that because... whatever.
03:26 mircea_popescu "whoever loves you loves you as you are" and all that.
03:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.04339999 = 0.1736 BTC [+] {2}
03:26 mircea_popescu so it's habit, but it's also that once you know things, stupidity appears quite different from how it appears back when you don't know things.
03:26 mircea_popescu you gain what's called metacognitive ability.
03:27 mircea_popescu and so you understand both why you had to be beaten, and why you'll be beating the shit off your kids, too. so they don't end up like the retarded us scum.
03:29 jurov well, once you keep yourself clean other people can start to smell horribly (applies to stupidity as well)
03:30 mircea_popescu indeed.
03:31 mircea_popescu which is why society naturally segregates. it's not that the upper class hates the lower class. it's just that the lower class... stinks.
03:31 chetty I wonder if much of the animosity between tea party and occupy could be simply smell?
03:31 mircea_popescu asciilifeform for a total lulz : check out sec's own version of pgp, the pse : http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/containers/fix064/891166/0000898432-05-000712.txt
03:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00083524 = 4.5938 BTC [+] {2}
03:32 mircea_popescu chetty most of it. politics is a sexual matter.
03:32 midnightmagic children do better, perform better, respond better, and grow better when they aren't beaten.
03:33 mircea_popescu you mean irl or in dreamland ?
03:33 midnightmagic irl. There is virtually no evidence at all that beating children helps.
03:33 midnightmagic There is virtually all the evidence that says that *not* beating them but maintaining discipline helps.
03:33 chetty depends on the child, some actually need it
03:33 mircea_popescu no, actually, there is an endless record of evidence that it does. what there's no evidence for is that not beating them is sustainable.
03:33 mircea_popescu quite the contrary evidence abounds.
03:33 midnightmagic No, there isn't.
03:33 mircea_popescu right.
03:33 midnightmagic Right.
03:34 mircea_popescu we can move on to discussing how temperatures form a golf club pattern next
03:34 mircea_popescu but as an exercise : consider whether you're randomly lumping together beating children with simple abuse, as a sort of strawman argument.
03:34 mircea_popescu some random drunk randomly hitting some kid is absolutely not within the scope of this discussion.
03:35 mircea_popescu children have to be beaten systematically, in which case most don't actually even need pyshical contact.
03:36 midnightmagic I understand what you mean. Virtually all infant and child development research disagrees with you.
03:36 mircea_popescu virtually all data fugded by post 1950 us pseudoscience on the topic says random stupid shit.
03:36 mircea_popescu it's about as good as us epidemiological data, that crap.
03:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 60 @ 0.00385001 = 0.231 BTC [-] {2}
03:38 mircea_popescu well, either that or magically all kids suddenly need ritalin.
03:38 midnightmagic No, ritalin is over-prescribed. That's evil on its own.
03:39 mircea_popescu but it is over prescrived on the basis of " virtually all infant and child development research"
03:39 mircea_popescu the same pseudoscientific process created both notions.
03:39 midnightmagic I'm just saying, as much as it's possible to know such things, physical pain or even physical discomfort versus non-physical discipline tactics: the physical discipline is not as effective.
03:39 mircea_popescu indeed. but do you know why ?
03:40 mircea_popescu because the group that responds to the former well is SELF SELECTED.
03:40 midnightmagic No it's not. Research is not the basis of ritalin over-prescription. In fact the research states that it is over-prescribed.
03:40 midnightmagic :)
03:40 mircea_popescu ie, theyre the smarter kids anwyay.
03:40 mircea_popescu problem is the entire system collapses once kids know nobody can ever get beaten.
03:40 mircea_popescu much like the us nuclear weapons, which the us refuses to declare will never be used.
03:41 chetty fear is a wonderful motivation
03:41 midnightmagic fear is not the most effective motivation. fear is not a direct motivator, it is a motivator to game the cease of fear.
03:41 mircea_popescu basically you're externalising a cost. when "kids get beaten" subset A1 gets actually beaten and subset A2 learns from their experience.
03:41 mircea_popescu you then run studies showing that A2 responds better than A1
03:41 mircea_popescu once "kids don't get beaten" everyone's ~A2.
03:42 midnightmagic That is fundamental study design. They don't make those kinds of selection bias mistakes in the research on which consensus is formed.
03:42 mircea_popescu midnightmagic only in uncontrolled environments. in controlled environments, fear is a motivator exactly for education.
03:42 midnightmagic Else someone else trying to make a name for themselves comes along and destroys it.
03:42 mircea_popescu it's how the child brain works, for this purpose.
03:43 mircea_popescu midnightmagic nobody is going t omake a name for themselves in the current us showing that not beating kids is a wrong thing.
03:43 midnightmagic Yeeaaahh.. no. Sure it's a motivator. I'm just saying it's not the most effective.
03:43 mircea_popescu it's not the most effective huh ?
03:43 mircea_popescu it's the one to which kids can pose no resistence.
03:43 midnightmagic I would say about half or more of the US actually agrees with you that beating children is the best way.
03:43 mircea_popescu it's ultimate, not effectual.
03:43 mircea_popescu it presents guarantees of success.
03:44 mircea_popescu midnightmagic yes, but not the 14% aspirational crowd that "makes" names
03:45 midnightmagic Anyway, just pointing it out. If you have access to a research institute with fulltext, you should check it out. It's really fascinating and, for me at least, counter-intuitive.
03:45 mircea_popescu yeah, i think the most we can arrive to is stating the respective positions.
03:45 midnightmagic Here, yeah for sure.
03:45 chetty no 'academic' would admit things like that, anymore than admit global warming is off. the wouldn't get their grants.
03:45 mircea_popescu chetty presumably the free market still exists in the us, both financially and with regard to ideas, so such an academic would "make a name for himself"
03:46 mircea_popescu somehow.
03:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00389989 = 0.39 BTC [+] {2}
03:46 * midnightmagic waves.
03:46 reeses_ I ignore nothing. I just don't pay attention.
03:46 chetty ha, hasn't been a free market in ideas for a very long time
03:47 reeses_ I love that he claims a ccie and ccna and doesn't know what ccie stands for
03:47 reeses_ and that he got the ccie in high school
03:47 mircea_popescu hence "<mircea_popescu> and i don't think reeses_ is even paying attention anymore."
03:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.0845958 = 0.2538 BTC [+]
03:48 reeses_ switch what I said, then, I was ignoring it
03:48 mircea_popescu midnightmagic but on the topic of making a name for oneself, know who tried that ? a certain dr. gleason. he tried to make a name for himself as not being a contemptible piece of shit. he was convicted, eventually, and then killed himself.
03:48 mircea_popescu http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2012/12/and_now_the_pharma_pendulum_sw.html < tlp has the story.
03:48 ozbot The Last Psychiatrist: Expendable; Or, And Now The Pharma Pendulum Swings Back The Other Way
03:48 mircea_popescu reeses_ well then read the discussion with mr pineaple above too.
03:49 midnightmagic huh. Never heard of him.
03:49 mircea_popescu ikr?
03:49 mircea_popescu kinda my point.
03:49 mircea_popescu kinda why i'm stuck with an ever increasing intel dept
03:49 mircea_popescu because nobody hears of anything anymore somehow.
03:49 * midnightmagic has trouble getting "to the moon, alice" out of his head
03:50 reeses_ yeah, working my way through the docs right now as well
03:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 35 @ 0.0055 = 0.1925 BTC {2}
03:52 reeses_ oh man this is so wrong
03:53 mircea_popescu no ?!
03:53 reeses_ I love it
03:54 mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/embed/SjbPi00k_ME
03:54 ozbot Casablanca gambling? I'm shocked - YouTube
03:56 mircea_popescu reeses_ he somehow omitted his cisco number
03:56 mircea_popescu or did they stop giving out those ?
03:56 reeses_ yeah, I went to look it up
03:56 reeses_ :-)
03:56 reeses_ no, they're still numbered
03:56 mircea_popescu http://www.bradreese.com/worldwide-ccie-count.htm
03:57 mircea_popescu yeah its still there
03:57 reeses_ but it's not as prestigious now, although it would still have been when he was in school
03:58 mircea_popescu in 2000ish ? yea, it think it'd have been all over slashdot. "highschooler gets ccie!!1"
03:58 mircea_popescu o wait. no slashdot yet.
04:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 49 @ 0.003855 = 0.1889 BTC [-] {2}
04:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 67 @ 0.00385 = 0.258 BTC [-] {2}
04:03 reeses_ yeah, /. was around then, no?
04:04 mircea_popescu wasnt it 2003 ish ?
04:04 mircea_popescu no nm, turns out its late 90s.
04:05 mircea_popescu "news at eight : everything is older than you think."
04:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 25 @ 0.0055 = 0.1375 BTC
04:11 mircea_popescu http://buttcoin.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Screen-Shot-2014-03-05-at-2.00.38-PM.png
04:11 mircea_popescu this shit's pretty good.
04:12 reeses_ my homework is here somewhere, I think copumpkin has it
04:12 mircea_popescu lol
04:13 mircea_popescu Duffer1: big one and number two.. anyone taking bets one of those was goat? << yes. how much you wanna bet ?
04:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.58000003 BTC [-]
04:14 mircea_popescu dexX7 i wonder wtf is happening there re missing txns
04:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 39 @ 0.0055 = 0.2145 BTC
04:14 mircea_popescu this does not look toogood.
04:15 kakobrekla they had an orphan in the list instead of the real block
04:15 kakobrekla cause they were doing upgrades
04:15 kakobrekla and were down for a bit
04:15 kakobrekla and that happend.
04:15 dexX7 true, people were complaining about strange behavior for a few days now
04:15 dexX7 oh really? but the blockhash etc. was correct?
04:16 mircea_popescu ah
04:16 mircea_popescu ok than
04:16 dexX7 well, good then that it's known
04:16 kakobrekla well i dunno, thats the word i got and i dont think its made up
04:16 kakobrekla except if this is a different thing.
04:16 mircea_popescu dexX7 wait, what blockhash ?
04:17 mircea_popescu you mean the hash of the block as reported then matches the hash as reported now ?!
04:17 dexX7 there is this overview for example: https://blockchain.info/block-index/472689/000000000000000020cc76f78a24a6bc1c6d55e5514ee9b900ba08b3f97bc4a6
04:17 kakobrekla anyway, whatever it is its blockchain.info related, not bitcoin
04:17 dexX7 and everything was correct except the number of transactions + the missing ones were indeed not listed
04:18 mircea_popescu dexX7 the logic here is as follows :
04:18 mircea_popescu the validity of a block is not established until later. which is what orphans and chain reorgs are.
04:19 mircea_popescu if a service like blockchain.info goes down (ie, stops listening to the chain) it may end up with the impression a meanwhile discarded block is still valid
04:19 mircea_popescu this would necessarily result in them listing a different set of txns from the actual set as found on the actual chain
04:19 dexX7 a discarded block would have another hash
04:19 mircea_popescu which'd be caught up once it reorgs
04:19 mircea_popescu but yes, said block would have to have its own hash
04:19 mircea_popescu so did it not ?
04:19 mircea_popescu cause if it did not then the orphan theory is blown.
04:20 dexX7 the hash and merkleroot was the same
04:20 mircea_popescu well then i suppose you'd better blog about it, or post or somthing.
04:21 mircea_popescu (i don't keep much of an eye on blockchain.info since there exists blockr)
04:22 mircea_popescu kakobrekla: thats what you get when retarded webdevs make exchanges, for the seventy fifth time << mpoe-pr sez https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=290799.msg4924847#msg4924847 but retards know better. as per usual.
04:24 mircea_popescu re smickles : fwiw i knew he wasn't in vegas too.
04:25 dexX7 maybe blockchain receives the complete blocks from it's backend in some way and had a small blackout while post-processing and adding the txs to their db ... well, who knows. they seem to be aware though.
04:26 kakobrekla afaik the txes listed there were from an orphan
04:27 mircea_popescu dexX7 maybe, let cary explain it.
04:27 mircea_popescu so far, the "orphan" theory has a prblm.
04:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.0008336 = 3.3761 BTC [-]
04:28 kakobrekla i havent checked anything but whats the problem
04:28 mircea_popescu kakobrekla that if they had an orphan it would show its own hash and root, not the correct block's.
04:29 mircea_popescu if you go "block 200344, here's the hash (from block 200344') and here's the txn, from block 200344" you got a problem
04:29 kakobrekla not necessarily, you dont know what the bug was
04:29 dexX7 there is no orphaned block listed for 288788, but i only have blockchain.info as source
04:29 mircea_popescu kakobrekla which is why i say let cary explain it, how the fuck would we know.
04:32 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo did it actually say "Michael Marquardt" or theymos or what ?
04:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2726 @ 0.0008336 = 2.2724 BTC [-]
04:32 mircea_popescu fucking bs impossible to grep
04:37 chetty just Theymos I think
04:40 kakobrekla two block appeared with same blockheight on blockchain info
04:40 kakobrekla they had a fail and had to manually fix it thats why its not in the standard orphaned blocks page
04:40 kakobrekla nothing to the story, move along.
04:42 mircea_popescu same blockheight, same hash, diff txn set ?
04:42 kakobrekla YES
04:42 mircea_popescu some fail.
04:45 dexX7 but there was only one block in the network and two on blockchain.info due to the fail, right?
04:49 kakobrekla afaik no
04:49 kakobrekla 2 blocks on the network
04:50 kakobrekla one is gone from bc records
04:51 mircea_popescu so was this an evil block in some sense ?
04:51 kakobrekla in the sense any other orphan would be an evil block to bc.info at the time
04:51 kakobrekla as well
04:54 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves: "realizing net proceeds of $164,758 from his net sales of 86,202 bitcoins" << epic.
04:55 mircea_popescu some people buy in at a little over 2, some people sell out at a little under 2, life goes on.
04:55 Diablo-D3 so
04:55 Diablo-D3 has the ukraine nuked russia yet?
04:57 reeses_ mircea_popescu: it just means his average spread was $2, which was ok at the time :-)
04:57 mircea_popescu :D
04:57 reeses_ what a sad amount, though :-)
04:58 mircea_popescu i fucking wonder, you know, what the thought process of the mentally impaired is.
04:58 reeses_ I mean, sure, that's real money in shitholes like texas and romania
04:58 Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: look in the mirror! dohohohohoho
04:58 mircea_popescu like shavers, like taaki, like maxwell, like you know, the lengthy list of idiots that were "involved" early on
04:58 mircea_popescu and then sorta... fell off.
04:58 reeses_ the mentally impaired generally lack the ability for introspection
04:58 Diablo-D3 oh man
04:58 reeses_ it's tough
04:58 Diablo-D3 I remember taaki
04:58 mircea_popescu i guess this is true. what a blessing it is, then.
04:59 Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: a lot of early people quit
04:59 mircea_popescu otherwise it'd be all "o fuck me, 160k for 80k btc ? i did that ? srsly ? "
04:59 reeses_ ok I'm sure he is doing that now
04:59 mircea_popescu i guess that's why the sec claiming the current price is a good thing
04:59 reeses_ yeah
04:59 mircea_popescu basically the da exists to make the stupid introspect
04:59 reeses_ since they hold the coins, too
04:59 mircea_popescu that's all it's there for. costs the rest of us a prett ypenny, too
05:08 mircea_popescu benkay:
05:08 mircea_popescu ;;rated Vandroiy
05:08 gribble You rated user Vandroiy on Sat Sep 1 23:00:35 2012, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: Risked 5k of his own bitcoins to help a bunch of forum retards see the light..
05:08 kakobrekla isnt taaki still herp derping around, why are you talking like he is history, i mean he might be, but he doesnt know that
05:08 kakobrekla nor act like it
05:08 mircea_popescu kakobrekla cause no btc.
05:09 mircea_popescu btc, tits. btc is the only thing that matters, the only thing that lasts. tara!
05:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.00567001 = 0.1134 BTC [+]
05:09 kakobrekla i bet we will see him on 'major' tv stations this year
05:09 kakobrekla probably the next too
05:10 mircea_popescu sure.
05:10 kakobrekla present history
05:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4439 @ 0.00083256 = 3.6957 BTC [-]
05:10 mircea_popescu actually correct quote : “The BTC is the only thing in the world worth working for, worth fighting for, worth dying for, because it's the only thing that lasts".
05:10 kakobrekla only until the end of the universe :\
05:11 kakobrekla so you might as well just fuck it
05:11 mircea_popescu lol
05:14 chetty http://imgur.com/gallery/iRSmRCg
05:14 ozbot As a European this is how I imagine Americans have breakfast - Imgur
05:14 kakobrekla http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=503105.msg5543619#msg5543619
05:14 ozbot Is Bitstamp going the same way as Gox?
05:14 kakobrekla oh my, a marketing director!!
05:14 * kakobrekla takes his hat off
05:22 mircea_popescu anyway, the one - pretty much the only one - barb for the sec in the pirate story is that indeed the facts seem to support pirate's allegation that he actually paid out the newest investors first.
05:22 mircea_popescu moustakis tried to finesse it out of the testimony, and absent any sort of competent defese it will probably wash away just fine
05:22 mircea_popescu but it is quite atypical for a ponzi
05:24 mircea_popescu anyway, funny how goat got double paid, suckled something from pirate, suckled something from suckers buying debt...
05:24 mircea_popescu ;;rated chaang-noi
05:24 gribble You have not yet rated user chaang-noi
05:25 mircea_popescu ;;seen chaang-noi
05:25 gribble chaang-noi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 weeks, 3 days, 4 hours, 25 minutes, and 40 seconds ago: <Chaang-Noi> might have to sue em
05:27 BigBitz kakobrekla?
05:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14464 @ 0.00083687 = 12.1045 BTC [+] {3}
05:31 kakobrekla a?
05:33 mircea_popescu asciilifeform that https://static.pinboard.in/webstock_2014.htm is at least fucking ideologically bizarre. they represent electrification as this obscure political strategy move, when it's quite obvious the thing proceeded on economic rationale.
05:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 64 @ 0.0039 = 0.2496 BTC [+]
05:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 67 @ 0.07193167 = 4.8194 BTC [-] {6}
05:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3000 @ 0.00018798 = 0.5639 BTC [+] {6}
05:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00401659 = 0.2008 BTC [+] {3}
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06:06 wao-ender https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BWhVMsJCUAAdoYx.png:large
06:07 kakobrekla http://imgur.com/gallery/Vn74zOf
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06:28 mircea_popescu http://31.media.tumblr.com/fa6e3114a4258b2d26660215e7341f2c/tumblr_mzo25sSdI31su84zzo1_1280.jpg
06:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 19 @ 0.58233273 = 11.0643 BTC [+] {9}
06:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.57127055 = 11.4254 BTC [-] {10}
06:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 61 @ 0.004041 = 0.2465 BTC [+]
06:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 82 @ 0.00574899 = 0.4714 BTC [+]
06:43 mircea_popescu http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/mother-assaulted-with-vibrator-576321
06:43 ozbot Cops: Woman Beat Her Mom With Vibrator | The Smoking Gun
06:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 148 @ 0.004041 = 0.5981 BTC [+]
06:45 dexX7 http://mag.newsweek.com/2014/03/14/bitcoin-satoshi-nakamoto.html
06:45 dexX7 ^ satoshi found ;)
06:48 mircea_popescu not nick szabo again is it ?
06:51 mircea_popescu lmao newsweek beat the bushes till they found one guy named satoshi nakamoto that was within driving distance
06:51 mircea_popescu herp derp dur dur durr.
06:55 mircea_popescu anyway, the responsible tard being Leah McGrath Goodman
06:56 nubbins` responsible enough to publish a photo of the guy's home, with number visible
06:56 nubbins` poor man
06:57 mircea_popescu at least gavin goes on the record saying that he doesn't need any money,
06:58 mircea_popescu and a bunch of other retarded shit.
06:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 42 @ 0.004041 = 0.1697 BTC [+] {2}
06:59 mircea_popescu Andresen responded: "Yeah, I'm not happy with the 'wacky pirate money' tone, either."
06:59 mircea_popescu Then he told Nakamoto he'd accepted an invitation to speak at the Central Intelligence Agency headquarters. "I hope that by talking directly to them and, more importantly, listening to their questions/concerns, they will think of Bitcoin the way I do - as a just-plain-better, more efficient, less-subject-to-political-whims money," he said. "Not as an all-powerful black-market tool that will be used by anarchists to ove
06:59 mircea_popescu rthrow the System."
06:59 mircea_popescu From that moment, Satoshi Nakamoto stopped responding to emails and dropped off the map.
06:59 mircea_popescu as scummy as it gets.
06:59 nubbins` thanks gavin!
07:01 nubbins` okay, i just bought tickets to see neutral milk hotel in berlin
07:01 nubbins` time to wake up pascale by smacking her in the face with them
07:02 nubbins` http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jtZx9LNpAY
07:02 ozbot In the Aeroplane Over the Sea- Neutral Milk Hotel - YouTube
07:12 mircea_popescu "If you come out as the leader of Bitcoin, now you have to make appearances and presentations and comments to the press and that didn't really fit with Satoshi's personality,"
07:13 mircea_popescu kinda shocking how stupid this character is, seriously.
07:13 mircea_popescu you gotta ? really ? how about the press and all that learns to irc instead. not like bitcoin is here to _adapt_ to anything now is it.
07:14 kakobrekla irc lol is that even still a thing?
07:14 mircea_popescu "He was the kind of person who, if you made an honest mistake, he might call you an idiot and never speak to you again," Andresen says.
07:14 mircea_popescu yet he somehow magically doesn't understand why satoshi ain't talkin' to him no more.
07:14 mircea_popescu i wonder. what could it be ?
07:15 nubbins` "hey bru, know that disruptive technology you've been working on? well, i just got invited to speak with the cia about it! amazing, huh?"
07:15 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
07:15 mircea_popescu kakobrekla yeah, it's where the UK prime minister trawls for special assistants to help him get the best child pron
07:15 nubbins` trawling decimated fish stocks here
07:15 mircea_popescu anyway, enough loling at fucktarded english major chicks, back to rift crafting
07:15 mircea_popescu the lyf and tymes.
07:17 nubbins` http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collapse_of_the_Atlantic_northwest_cod_fishery
07:17 ozbot Collapse of the Atlantic northwest cod fishery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
07:17 mircea_popescu yeah. sad.
07:17 nubbins` almost one in ten newfoundlanders made their living doing that
07:18 nubbins` unemployed overnight :0
07:19 mircea_popescu that's nothing.
07:19 mircea_popescu about two in three white people are employed working for the government.
07:19 mircea_popescu comes to about 600mn to be unemployed overnight one of these nights.
07:21 nubbins` http://youtu.be/inDgw8AWmiw?t=2m
07:21 ozbot The end of the Cod - John Crosbie in Bay Bulls Canada Day 1992. - YouTube
07:21 nubbins` federal fisheries minister to angry mob: "i didn't take the fish out of the goddamn water"
07:23 nubbins` mircea_popescu: we're only getting rid of white government? ;0
07:23 mircea_popescu pretty much the only places with actual government are white majority population.
07:24 mircea_popescu china i suppose is making some moves towards relevancy, but i know jack shit about china
07:26 chetty http://deutsche-wirtschafts-nachrichten.de/2014/03/02/oesterreicher-planen-sammelklage-gegen-kredit-system-der-banken/
07:30 nubbins` planen... not holding breath ;(
07:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.04339875 = 0.3472 BTC [+] {2}
07:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14200 @ 0.00086722 = 12.3145 BTC [+]
07:49 dexX7 https://twitter.com/gavinandresen/status/441547758827474946
07:49 ozbot Twitter / gavinandresen: I'm disappointed Newsweek decided ...
07:49 dexX7 "I'm disappointed Newsweek decided to dox the Nakamoto family, and regret talking to Leah."
08:02 mircea_popescu total derp this guy.
08:12 antephialtic mircea_popescu: do you think the article was an invasion of privacy?
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08:33 mircea_popescu i think the article was an ebullution of idiocy.
08:34 nubbins` i just bought thirty-seven pounds of pork shoulder
08:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 272 @ 0.004041 = 1.0992 BTC [+]
08:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 29 @ 0.00410488 = 0.119 BTC [+] {5}
08:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.00086722 = 3.5122 BTC [+]
08:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 900 @ 0.00017796 = 0.1602 BTC [-] {11}
08:52 MisterE http://www.forbes.com/sites/chriswright/2014/02/11/when-chinas-food-runs-out/
08:52 ozbot When China's Food Runs Out - Forbes
08:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 25 @ 0.00417158 = 0.1043 BTC [+] {5}
08:53 MisterE finally someone gets it
08:53 MisterE whats's a good non-Win bot?
08:53 MisterE I run os x or Debian
08:54 mircea_popescu irc bot you mean ?
08:54 asciilifeform where is the proof that the old man had anything to do with btc? or even exists
08:55 MisterE no trading bot
08:55 MisterE for btc and alts
08:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.04339 = 0.1736 BTC [-]
08:56 MisterE know any of these? http://easybitinvesting.com/bitcoin-trading/trading-robots/
08:56 asciilifeform MisterE: i posted here about this a few days ago, look in logs if you're interested.
08:56 asciilifeform MisterE: (re: china)
08:56 MisterE oh?
08:57 asciilifeform MisterE: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-03-2014#544394
08:57 MisterE nice, ty
08:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 24 @ 0.02352624 = 0.5646 BTC [+] {6}
08:59 asciilifeform MisterE: beginning of that conversation: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-03-2014#544315
08:59 MisterE why mircea_popescu say Ukraine is not productive and that article says its where .ch wants to buy its land becouse produces a lot of wheat?
09:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 27 @ 0.00418887 = 0.1131 BTC [+] {2}
09:00 asciilifeform MisterE: the chinese have certain methods of farming 'disposable' (i.e. belonging to untermenschen) lands
09:01 asciilifeform MisterE: they have demonstrated this in the russian far east, where they occupied various places, some legally (rented), some otherwise
09:02 MisterE farming has got to go hydro and less land intensive
09:03 asciilifeform in other news,
09:04 asciilifeform ua rebels now have... their own crematorium. (http://www.svpressa.ru/society/article/83339)
09:09 mircea_popescu asciilifeform https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=503831.new#new basically. the same idea.
09:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.0845865 = 0.1692 BTC [+] {2}
09:10 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: somebody should teach these folks the virtues of seppuku.
09:11 mircea_popescu but why ? if the cattle harakiri'd randomly wed have all these stale carcasses all over.
09:11 asciilifeform ah, they just need to do it in a certified abbatoir.
09:13 mircea_popescu asciilifeform "if there's a fire, don't do anything, call the fire people"
09:13 mircea_popescu "if there's a robbery don't do anything, call the robbery people"
09:14 mircea_popescu "if you feel like your time is up... don't... do anything... call the... "
09:14 mircea_popescu etcv
09:15 asciilifeform '1-800-SEP-UKKU' ...
09:15 mircea_popescu facebukku
09:15 asciilifeform http://i2.cpcache.com/product/99626877/quietus_mug.jpg?height=350&width=350
09:16 dexX7 "fiat style attack" ..?
09:17 mircea_popescu lol i don't get it.
09:17 chetty http://atn.ua/politika/glavnyy-ravvin-ukrainy-rossiya-predstavlyaet-opasnost-dlya-evreev-ukrainy
09:18 mircea_popescu dexX7 yes. identity established not through the mechanism it is predicated upon, but through "the agreement" of "the people", specifically those who are too stupid to even understand what's being discussed.
09:18 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: that cup is referring to a cheap sf flick, 'children of men', where there's an apocalyptic degringolade, and pill in question is a bestseller.
09:18 mircea_popescu roughly equivalent to some kid trying to resolve his upset at bitbet by "getting votes"
09:18 mircea_popescu oh. musta been before my time.
09:18 asciilifeform '04
09:18 asciilifeform i think
09:18 dexX7 ah and in contrast one would simply sign some genesis coins and that's it
09:19 asciilifeform chetty: related: http://cryptome.org/2014/03/ukraine-national-socialism.htm (with helpful translations)
09:20 mircea_popescu dexX7 right ?
09:20 dexX7 yes
09:21 asciilifeform well, they're pushing a picture of a 'go away, i won't admit the deed' satoshi
09:21 mircea_popescu or whatever, send 1 bitcent from the genesis block to 1newsweak98759843
09:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.0845936 = 0.2538 BTC [+] {3}
09:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 30 @ 0.0055 = 0.165 BTC
09:21 mircea_popescu about fifty different ways to go about it, all taking five minutes.
09:25 mircea_popescu anyway, if fake satoshi comes up with some derpage about how we should all love each other, feed africa and stop oppressing faggots it'll be just perfect.
09:25 asciilifeform the real fun starts when we get a 2nd, 3rd... лжеsatoshi.
09:25 mircea_popescu or whatever, fighting economic unequality and promoting the virtues of an unspecified, bug ridden codebase and the halfwits that nursed it to this day
09:25 mircea_popescu asciilifeform actually there's already a dude claiming he's it
09:25 mircea_popescu (also legally named satoshi nakamoto)
09:26 asciilifeform but he wasn't anointed by nooseweak, was he
09:26 mircea_popescu i guess that one had the disadvantage that the entire nonsense needed plane tickets, and newsweek wouldn't spring
09:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 24 @ 0.00424999 = 0.102 BTC [+] {2}
09:26 mircea_popescu so the girl had to hitchhike to sonora or w/e
09:26 mircea_popescu closer to home.
09:27 mircea_popescu wherever a guy who "was deeply influenced by silicon valley" and also "uses prefix notation" could be found.
09:28 asciilifeform 'uses prefix notation' ?!1!
09:28 pigeons and two spaces after periods
09:28 mircea_popescu right.
09:28 asciilifeform turns out i'm satoshi - who knew.
09:28 mircea_popescu asciilifeform yes, yes. whatever you call it, polish ?
09:28 MisterE 2 spaces is asian
09:28 mircea_popescu no, you're just deeply influenced by silicon valley.
09:28 pigeons i thought everyone did that
09:29 MisterE well this side of the pond
09:29 MisterE no not uS
09:29 mircea_popescu like you know... i don't think you can find someone doing that in the vc circus if your life depended on it
09:30 MisterE it seems I come across double spacing less often now though, maybe just me
09:31 mircea_popescu MisterE it's really a leftover from typewriter days.
09:31 MisterE or if its lazy good for nothing cheating students
09:31 mircea_popescu makes 0 sense on a digital system
09:31 MisterE oh yea totally fogotten
09:31 pigeons omg, my husbandhas bad grammar too, just like satoshi nakamoto
09:32 mircea_popescu wait, you have a husband now ?
09:32 mircea_popescu AND a wife ?
09:32 MisterE hah
09:32 mircea_popescu what are you, the family dog ?
09:32 pigeons depends what day it is
09:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 70 @ 0.00429 = 0.3003 BTC [+]
09:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 68 @ 0.00435395 = 0.2961 BTC [+] {7}
09:38 chetty http://legalinsurrection.com/2014/03/putin-nominated-for-nobel-peace-prize/
09:38 ozbot Putin | Ukraine | Crimea | Nobel Peace Prize | Nomination
09:39 asciilifeform chetty: he'll get his right after snowden.
09:39 chetty hahahahaha
09:39 asciilifeform chetty: and it won't be a nobel pederasteace prize, but a Lenin prize.
09:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 638 @ 0.00429 = 2.737 BTC [-] {2}
09:40 chetty but then he and O could make a club or sumthin
09:40 asciilifeform http://www.iss-reshetnev.com/images/Image/org/history/ord_lenina.jpg
09:41 mircea_popescu lol
09:42 mircea_popescu well i dunno, the peace prize seems inappropriate.
09:42 mircea_popescu putin could get the physics nobel for his crimeea contgributions
09:42 mircea_popescu bernanke math...
09:43 asciilifeform some joker ought to fund a 'fields medal' for... spam.
09:43 asciilifeform Chumpatronics Medal
09:45 MisterE hmm maybe a pot fund
09:45 MisterE it's going to be huge cash when it sweeps america next 10-years
09:45 asciilifeform MisterE: S.MOKE ?
09:45 MisterE yup
09:49 asciilifeform MisterE: see mp's essay on cattle-tronics technology to learn why this is not actually an idea.
10:04 mircea_popescu actually this is pretty funny : The New Yorker's satoshi is Michael Clear ; Fast Company's satoshi is (Neal King, Vladimir Oksman and Charles Bry). Business Insider's satoshi is Nick Szabo.
10:04 mircea_popescu there are also two individuals legally named satoshi nakamoto, one presenting himself as satoshi, the other being presented by newsweek as satoshi
10:05 mircea_popescu there's also Shinichi Mochizuki, Gavin's wife, Jed McCaleb (judging by kraken... god help us)
10:07 chetty Crimea votes to join Russia
10:07 mircea_popescu there's of course also the government
10:08 jurov chetty what, they finally moved the refendum to yesterday?
10:08 jurov *referendum
10:08 jurov it was supposed to be at 30th, then at 16th
10:08 chetty Crimea's parliament voted to join Russia on Thursday and its Moscow-backed government set a referendum within 10 days
10:09 asciilifeform i'd really have to be in the place of a fellow 'getting satoshied'
10:09 asciilifeform can already feel the rectothermal warmth just thinking about it.
10:09 asciilifeform *really hate
10:09 jurov nice freudian slip
10:09 asciilifeform haha
10:10 chetty well all the Satochies could get together and have a party
10:10 asciilifeform 'skull of voltaire as a child'
10:11 mircea_popescu party sounds good.
10:11 mircea_popescu except no women ?
10:12 chetty ok so Satochies and guests
10:12 asciilifeform surely some could be found. the journarasts should work harder.
10:13 asciilifeform at some point you'll have to demonstrate a cyanide tooth to be even considered a proper candidate for satoshidom.
10:14 mircea_popescu satoshidom
10:14 mircea_popescu lmao.
10:14 pLambert do we know that Satoshi is a male?
10:14 mircea_popescu satoshidoms and satoshidommes, at the bcst!
10:14 mircea_popescu pLambert i was merely commenting on the people held up for the role by the media so far.
10:14 mircea_popescu we don't know jack.
10:15 asciilifeform pLambert: how anyone can claim to know anything at all about s, is a mystery.
10:15 chetty hmmmmm sounds like a great halloween costume :satoshidommes
10:15 asciilifeform the best evident for nsatoshi, for instance, is the grungy cpp
10:15 asciilifeform rather than anything posted under the name
10:17 mircea_popescu TC: Does it matter? What would it change if it did, in your opinion?
10:17 mircea_popescu SG: I think it’s very important to identify Satoshi at this point in Bitcoin’s history. The “agenda” behind Bitcoin, if there is any, cannot stay in the shadow if Bitcoin is to become a mainstream alternative currency, a challenge to the world’s monetary status quo. There has been speculation that Bitcoin may have been created by a government agency (the main employers of cryptographers of mathematicians) in
10:17 mircea_popescu an attempt to make financial transactions easier to mine for interesting data patterns: we need to clear that up before we start relying heavily on Bitcoin in our lives.
10:17 mircea_popescu no but check out the stupid.
10:17 mircea_popescu people are incredible.
10:18 mircea_popescu TC: How has your digging gone over in the BTC community? It seems like an unpopular topic at best.
10:18 mircea_popescu SG: It has not been received well, many people are telling me to “leave Satoshi alone”. But when one starts having a huge impact on the world, one loses his right to anonymity.
10:18 mircea_popescu orly.
10:18 mircea_popescu i gotta stop reading on this topic jesus god they're offensive.
10:18 asciilifeform ;;google sympathetic magic
10:18 gribble Sympathetic magic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sympathetic_magic>; Chapter 3. Sympathetic Magic. § 1. The Principles of Magic. Frazer ...: <http://www.bartleby.com/196/5.html>; Sympathetic magic - Merriam-Webster Online: <http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sympathetic%20magic>
10:18 asciilifeform ;;google ritual cleanliness
10:18 gribble Ritual purification - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ritual_purification>; Ritual washing in Judaism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ritual_washing_in_Judaism>; Tumah and taharah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tumah_and_taharah>
10:19 asciilifeform tomorrow's headline: 'vlad p signs message with satoshi's key, asking idiots to stfu'
10:20 asciilifeform incidentally, anyone who does so... will be satoshi
10:20 asciilifeform or at least a fork.
10:21 mircea_popescu actually this suggests a bet to me.
10:21 asciilifeform i thought people didn't like 'geological' bets.
10:23 nubbins` first shoulder trimmed and cubed
10:23 nubbins` hands like claws
10:27 mircea_popescu meh, too hard to specify.
10:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0425001 = 0.17 BTC [-] {2}
10:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 27 @ 0.004379 = 0.1182 BTC [+]
10:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00432559 = 0.2163 BTC [-] {3}
10:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07489655 = 0.3745 BTC [+] {2}
10:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07489654 = 0.3745 BTC [-]
10:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 4 @ 0.04399999 = 0.176 BTC [-] {2}
10:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 299 @ 0.0042924 = 1.2834 BTC [-] {5}
10:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00429 = 0.429 BTC [-] {2}
10:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 125 @ 0.00429 = 0.5363 BTC [-]
10:47 nubbins` so i sent a coin to australia on january 14. it took nineteen days to get from here to vancouver, and finally arrived in australia today
10:47 nubbins` what a wait!
10:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.0842 = 0.421 BTC [-]
10:55 ThickAsThieves http://www.theverge.com/2014/3/6/5476944/norway-will-cut-through-an-island-in-tribute-to-massacre-victims
10:55 ozbot Norway will cut through an island in tribute to massacre victims | The Verge
11:00 cazalla that's quite a long time nubbins`
11:00 cazalla maybe it was stuck at customs
11:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 47 @ 0.00436999 = 0.2054 BTC [+] {3}
11:01 cazalla with standard shipping, i usually get amazon orders to here in around 2 weeks
11:02 nubbins` i've never had anything take so long -- wondering what shape the package will be in when it arrives
11:02 nubbins` 19 days to cross canada is nuts :0
11:04 ThickAsThieves maybe it was intercepted
11:04 mircea_popescu inception
11:06 nubbins` ThickAsThieves, that's pretty striking
11:06 nubbins` (re: link)
11:07 nubbins` re: package, my guess is the express shipping label somehow got ripped off
11:07 nubbins` and it went surface
11:07 ThickAsThieves i can't recall a better memorial idea
11:08 nubbins` at least the month and a half of panicking is over. guy paid 6btc for the coin inside, via escrow
11:09 ThickAsThieves maybe have the guy photograph it before opening the package
11:09 ThickAsThieves in case it was tampered with
11:09 nubbins` yeah, conditions included hd video of unpackaging
11:09 nubbins` can't be too careful
11:10 nubbins` this buyer was the only person so far who took me up on the offer to extend the pgp chain of custody
11:18 dexX7 nubbins` you already used super slow shipping for the baked cat shirts, so i'm not surprised :p
11:19 nubbins` well, that was more practicality than anything. nobody wants to spend $30 shipping on a $15 shirt
11:19 nubbins` coins, i send express :D
11:20 dexX7 was it a redeemed one?
11:21 nubbins` nope
11:21 dexX7 :)
11:21 nubbins` i only ever peeled one casascius coin (0.5btc brass)
11:21 nubbins` was thrilling
11:23 nubbins` for about a minute
11:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.07000006 = 0.28 BTC [-]
11:23 KRS-One You need to get out more nubbins`
11:23 nubbins` http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/bitcoin-exchange-first-meta-ceo-autumn-radtke-found-dead-1.2562077
11:23 ozbot Bitcoin exchange First Meta CEO Autumn Radtke found dead - Technology & Science - CBC News
11:23 mircea_popescu http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m37j6y9SXS1ru9xfzo1_1280.jpg
11:23 nubbins` KRS-One: the problem is how to entertain myself while i'm in!
11:24 mircea_popescu nubbins` http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-03-2014#545213
11:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 30 @ 0.0690001 = 2.07 BTC [-] {3}
11:24 nubbins` gah
11:24 mircea_popescu dun dun dun
11:25 nubbins` sadtrumpet.mp3
11:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.06801001 = 0.204 BTC [-]
11:26 dexX7 there are several headlines with "bitcoin ceo died" =D
11:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06801 = 0.6801 BTC [-]
11:27 nubbins` http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/could-bars-open-until-6-a-m-be-in-montreal-s-future-1.2562057
11:27 ozbot Could bars open until 6 a.m. be in Montreal's future? - Montreal - CBC News
11:27 nubbins` ^ HEH
11:27 nubbins` cops are gonna love that
11:28 nubbins` this will last until the first hockey game
11:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.04259 = 0.1278 BTC [+]
11:30 ThickAsThieves http://www.coindesk.com/upcoming-version-bitcoinj-software-will-use-tor-network/
11:30 ThickAsThieves Hearn keeps on giving
11:31 ThickAsThieves http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2014/03/05/most-popular-bitcoin-apps-soon-to-run-on-tor-anonymity-network/
11:31 ozbot Most Popular Bitcoin Apps Soon To Run On Tor Anonymity Network - Forbes
11:31 ThickAsThieves ^ source
11:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 54 @ 0.04297777 = 2.3208 BTC [+] {3}
11:31 benkay *sigh*
11:32 nubbins` forbes.com/sites/
11:32 nubbins` is where i stopped reading
11:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.04339994 = 0.1736 BTC [+] {2}
11:32 ThickAsThieves i dont think it's quite the same as CNN/sites/
11:33 ThickAsThieves might just be where they keep their "columnists"
11:34 nubbins` oh, i think you might be right
11:39 dexX7 kakobrekla: another orphaned block? https://blockchain.info/block-height/288294 + http://pastebin.com/xLFmbfD0
11:40 dexX7 the bci block has 693 txs
11:42 kakobrekla yeah dunno
11:44 dexX7 *the real one has 693 (instead of 554)
11:45 kakobrekla yes also the hash matches real hash on blockr
11:47 kakobrekla interestingly enough dexX7 , tx fees match perfectly
11:47 kakobrekla only 150txes missing
11:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 12 @ 0.0846 = 1.0152 BTC [+]
11:48 dexX7 yea. the one from earlier was fixed on bc.info in the meantime
11:48 mircea_popescu so is this coindesk basically a hand aggregator of the retarded press ?
11:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 25 @ 0.0055 = 0.1375 BTC
11:49 mircea_popescu some kid just sits and googles forbes, business dorksider etc all day ?
11:49 nubbins` reading an article about Staples closing 225 stores and there's a quote from some asshole about "right-sizing" their retail footprint
11:49 nubbins` fuck, i hate business speak
11:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 75 @ 0.00436983 = 0.3277 BTC [+] {5}
11:50 nubbins` back when i worked in a fabric-covered box, i walked past an office and overheard the woman inside talking about a "head count reduction"
11:50 kakobrekla dexX7 well what can i say, blockr seems more reliable :)
11:50 nubbins` nobody's getting fired, we're just going to count people, and if you don't get counted you're not getting paid
11:50 dexX7 indeed. i like the website
11:50 mircea_popescu dexX7 this may be more or less the time one removes any large btc balances from blockchain
11:51 kakobrekla dexX7 001ef3beb93da31ca03a0643951c594623df5f4fb670536a07614ea7c23053e4 might be the problem
11:51 kakobrekla and it seems its the tx that they made
11:52 kakobrekla so it seems they have a prob with their own txes
11:52 mircea_popescu hence my comment.
11:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 7 @ 0.08463509 = 0.5924 BTC [+] {3}
11:53 dexX7 the note only means that the tx was relayed or broadcasted by bci
11:53 dexX7 the tx has actually 928 confirmations
11:53 kakobrekla http://blockchain.info/tx/001ef3beb93da31ca03a0643951c594623df5f4fb670536a07614ea7c23053e4 vs http://blockr.io/tx/info/001ef3beb93da31ca03a0643951c594623df5f4fb670536a07614ea7c23053e4 vs http://blockexplorer.com/tx/001ef3beb93da31ca03a0643951c594623df5f4fb670536a07614ea7c23053e4
11:53 ozbot Bitcoin Transaction 001ef3beb93da31ca03a0643951c594623df5f4fb670536a07614ea7c23053e4
11:54 mircea_popescu "hypothesis on why I think the real Sotoshi was found"
11:54 mircea_popescu defonituly.
11:55 nubbins` http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/female-westjet-pilot-posts-passenger-s-sexist-note-on-facebook-1.2559603
11:55 ozbot Female WestJet pilot posts passenger's sexist note on Facebook - British Columbia - CBC News
11:55 kakobrekla yeah, its not 100% from them, but likely
11:55 nubbins` "I respectfully disagree with your opinion that the 'cockpit,' (we now call it the flight deck as no cocks are required), is no place for a lady. In fact, there are no places that are not for ladies anymore."
11:55 nubbins` HAHAHAHA PLUS ONE
11:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.04307995 = 0.2154 BTC [-] {2}
11:57 ThickAsThieves mp, dr greg is calling you out https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=350103.msg5550181#msg5550181
11:57 mircea_popescu out of the cockpit ?
11:58 ThickAsThieves more of an i-told-you-so
11:58 mircea_popescu "Too funny. Despite the incoherence of his blog post, at least MP has finally stepped up and conceded the incompetence of his former approach to options market making. For finally admitting that and quitting the business of options market making without being adequately prepared, he deserves a positive acknowledgement."
11:58 mircea_popescu derp ?
11:58 mircea_popescu dude that moore idiot should have been shot.
11:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.37038703 BTC to 3`597 shares, 65899 satoshi per share
11:59 mircea_popescu because the us failed to execute him, the entire country is now full of losers who imagine that if they somehow pour drivel which happens to contain references to GM's CEO they somehow gain relevance.
12:01 kakobrekla dexX7 apparently it was fixed, perhaps they are reading assets logs or something
12:02 dexX7 hehe
12:02 ThickAsThieves someone should poke them to explain why it happened and won't happen again
12:03 kakobrekla but it will!
12:03 ThickAsThieves ^ Cary ^
12:04 mircea_popescu maybe they, you know, independently audit their own chainz
12:04 kakobrekla the block was a week old
12:04 kakobrekla or smth
12:05 mircea_popescu 900 confirms huh
12:05 mircea_popescu yeah i guess.
12:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.04200299 = 0.126 BTC [-] {2}
12:06 kakobrekla schrodingers blockchain
12:07 mircea_popescu so today i woke up to the pirate sec deposition, and i had to interrupt my launch because some overqualified stripper went off the deep end in newsweek
12:07 mircea_popescu the theory that three's a charm is kind-of giving me goosebumps atm.
12:07 mircea_popescu s/launch/lunch
12:14 lnovy mircea_popescu: i've just read mpoe february 2014 statement and I cannot hold myself to tell you this: Good job.
12:15 kakobrekla are you like dr gregs evil brother?
12:16 lnovy i have my own asshole brother :)
12:19 kakobrekla luxury
12:21 ThickAsThieves i wonder how these AUR are being "air-dropped"
12:21 ThickAsThieves in the mailbox? to be stolen?
12:21 mircea_popescu lnovy ty.
12:21 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves prolly some website thing
12:22 ThickAsThieves "MazaCoin is a fork of ZetaCoin and unlike Bitcoin, is inflationary, making it possible for new coins to be mined over time."
12:22 ThickAsThieves painful
12:23 ThickAsThieves what is Asicminer mining then?
12:23 mircea_popescu old coins
12:23 nubbins` heh.
12:23 mircea_popescu what's an asshole brother lnovy ?!
12:25 lnovy mircea_popescu: that was just a quick to-be-funny reaction
12:25 lnovy i failed obviously
12:26 mircea_popescu interesting concept nevertheless.
12:27 lnovy indeed
12:30 ThickAsThieves it's when you bump assholes with a guy, swapping anal cooties, making you asshole brothers
12:32 nubbins` poop swap
12:32 nubbins` like blood brothers
12:32 nubbins` http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dS2QwKRhnds
12:32 ozbot Ass to Ass Loop - Requiem for a Dream - YouTube
12:33 benkay nubbins`: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fecal_bacteriotherapy
12:44 ThickAsThieves http://gawker.com/a-letter-from-ray-jasper-who-is-about-to-be-executed-1536073598
12:44 ozbot A Letter From Ray Jasper, Who Is About to Be Executed
~ 19 minutes ~
13:03 kakobrekla http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=503566.0
13:03 ozbot Safello launches complete redesign of website as it gears up for European expans
13:03 mircea_popescu which one is this one ?
13:04 kakobrekla >Safello announces a $600k investment round lead by prominent Bitcoin advocates Erik Voorhees and Roger Ver joined by Blockchain.info CEO Nicolas Cary and angel investors Victor & Victor. The Sweden based company also launches a complete redesign of their website to gear up for their European expansion as the safest way into Bitcoin.
13:04 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves that thing is beyond fake.
13:13 ThickAsThieves the letter is fake?
13:15 mircea_popescu unless you're telling me an unemployable black kid that supplemented his dole payments with robbery somehow went to vassar while in a texas jail.
13:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5800001 BTC [+]
13:17 mircea_popescu really badly written, too. "When I first responded to you, I didn't think that it would cause people to reach out to me and voice their opinions. I've never been on the internet in my life and I'm not fully aware of the social circles on the internet, so it was a surprise to receive reactions so quickly."
13:17 * ThickAsThieves shrugs
13:17 ThickAsThieves not sure it matters
13:17 ThickAsThieves http://coinchomp.com/2014/03/06/journalist-harasses-man-believes-bitcoin-founder/
13:17 ozbot Journalist Harrasses Man Believing Him to be Bitcoin Founder Satoshi Nakamoto - CoinChomp
13:17 mircea_popescu "here's what some libertard that's been on the internet all her lyf thinks a guy who's not would say"
13:18 ThickAsThieves maybe he has a mentor, i dunno
13:20 mircea_popescu yeah. a mentor that's never talked to anyone who's not online.
13:21 mircea_popescu nor gives a shit about anything but how the story should read for maximal impact in the mouthbreather herd.
13:26 deadweasel ^ this is what I saw in this and the first letter.
13:26 deadweasel it's as if the anti death penalty league wrote it
13:27 mike_c he slit the guy's throat. but the guy didn't die and his accomplice finished him off.
13:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 50 @ 0.0055 = 0.275 BTC
13:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23003 @ 0.00087007 = 20.0142 BTC [+]
13:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.60181866 = 3.0091 BTC [+] {5}
13:45 dexX7 https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Ffirstmonday.org%2Fojs%2Findex.php%2Ffm%2Farticle%2FviewFile%2F474%2F830%2F5678&t=537&c=FLUTTcM5qE6Bcw looky, allegedly from 1995
13:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 124 @ 0.63307968 = 78.5019 BTC [+] {31}
13:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.65 = 5.2 BTC [+]
13:46 dexX7 boom
13:47 benkay` dexX7: mystical buttcorns
13:48 ThickAsThieves dats a lotta AM
13:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 13 @ 0.64846153 = 8.43 BTC [-] {6}
13:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [+]
13:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 75 @ 0.00574967 = 0.4312 BTC [+] {4}
13:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 730 @ 0.00435204 = 3.177 BTC [+] {9}
13:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 150 @ 0.00438863 = 0.6583 BTC [+] {15}
13:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 30 @ 0.00438915 = 0.1317 BTC [+] {4}
14:09 the20year2 RENT will start trading/non-IPO trading tomorrow around noon
14:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.07488998 = 0.674 BTC [-] {2}
14:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.07489405 = 0.4494 BTC [+] {3}
14:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 300 @ 0.00574988 = 1.725 BTC [-] {4}
14:13 benkay` how much of a selloff are you expecting, the20year2?
14:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.0863266 = 0.259 BTC [+] {2}
14:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 617 @ 0.00574993 = 3.5477 BTC [+]
14:16 mike_c ;;calc (78534-24564)*0.0055
14:16 gribble 296.835
14:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.00444777 = 0.1557 BTC [+]
14:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 635 @ 0.00574995 = 3.6512 BTC [+] {2}
14:16 benkay` !t h rent
14:16 assbot [HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00550000 / 0.0055 / 0.00550000 (674 shares, 3.70700000 BTC), 7D: 0.00550000 / 0.0055 / 0.00550000 (11826 shares, 65.04300000 BTC), 30D: 0.00550000 / 0.0055 / 0.00550000 (53970 shares, 296.83500000 BTC)
14:17 mike_c 300 btc. not sure what to make of that.
14:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 80 @ 0.00575 = 0.46 BTC [+]
14:17 benkay` the20year2: are you willing to lend me some shares?
14:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 51 @ 0.00579947 = 0.2958 BTC [+] {4}
14:19 the20year2 Depends on how much money you send me
14:19 the20year2 Benkay, i'm expecting price to rise to .006 or .007
14:20 mircea_popescu o.O
14:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 47 @ 0.0055 = 0.2585 BTC
14:20 benkay` i'll put collateral on deposit with someone, not you
14:20 benkay` maybe i just want to do a bitbet
14:20 the20year2 You were the one asking for handouts :D
14:20 benkay` hey, watch your mouth.
14:20 benkay` i will collateralize.
14:21 benkay` ThickAsThieves: ping
14:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 16 @ 0.04399999 = 0.704 BTC [-] {2}
14:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 24 @ 0.00589 = 0.1414 BTC [+]
14:22 benkay` the20year2: assume i have btc and can collateralize a position. are you willing to lend me shares?
14:23 mike_c what are you going to do with them? you can't sell them until ipo is off. tough to short if it gaps down.
14:23 the20year2 I guess so? You'd have to send me more details
14:25 the20year2 IPO ends tomorrow at noon
14:25 benkay` mike_c: pm
14:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1088 @ 0.00446484 = 4.8577 BTC [+] {9}
14:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 912 @ 0.00449559 = 4.1 BTC [+] {4}
14:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 400 @ 0.00089565 = 0.3583 BTC [+] {2}
14:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.6466 = 1.9398 BTC [-] {2}
14:34 r3wt ;;bcauth
14:34 gribble (bcauth <nick>) -- Initiate authentication for user <nick>. You must have registered with the bot with a bitcoin address for this to work. You will be given a random passphrase to sign with your address, and submit to the bot with the 'bcverify' command. Your passphrase will expire within 10 minutes.
14:34 r3wt ;;bcauth r3wt
14:34 gribble Request successful for user r3wt, hostmask r3wt!add82c3d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.216.44.61. Your challenge string is: freenode:#bitcoin-otc:7022ce55a1580f78f4ef9c40738c3eb47ee2495c1571a59ea183aedd
14:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 60 @ 0.00589786 = 0.3539 BTC [+] {4}
14:35 B007 well this guy http://arstechnica.com/business/2014/03/bitcoin-creator-satoshi-nakamoto-revealed-after-years-of-mystery/ lives 2 hours away from me
14:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.0059585 = 0.2383 BTC [+] {2}
14:35 B007 I wonder if people will start showing up at his house now asking for bitcoin
14:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.645 BTC [-]
14:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 96 @ 0.00449998 = 0.432 BTC [+] {4}
14:39 Phraust or with $5 wrenches.
14:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 230 @ 0.00449999 = 1.035 BTC [+]
14:41 B007 I'm temped to show up myself lol
14:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 37 @ 0.07000012 = 2.59 BTC [-] {4}
14:42 deadweasel no.
14:43 B007 ok
14:43 mike_c no point. either he is the guy and deserves some respect, or he isn't and you're annoying some stranger
14:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.07 = 0.49 BTC [-] {2}
14:55 dexX7 http://www.coindesk.com/bitstamp-audit-proves-behind-147m-mystery-bitcoin-wallet/
14:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 29 @ 0.0055 = 0.1595 BTC
14:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 118 @ 0.00555319 = 0.6553 BTC [+] {3}
14:59 dexX7 at that time about 20-25k btc were on the books.. wouldn't have assumed that there was so much sleeping money/coins x.x
15:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.07599992 = 0.608 BTC [+]
15:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 20 @ 0.0055 = 0.11 BTC
15:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 72 @ 0.0055 = 0.396 BTC
15:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 24 @ 0.07798294 = 1.8716 BTC [+] {5}
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15:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 444 @ 0.0045 = 1.998 BTC [+]
15:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 32 @ 0.66514997 = 21.2848 BTC [+] {14}
15:19 pLambert what is S.MNKY going to be?
15:20 nubbins` a barrel of fun?
15:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 219 @ 0.0055 = 1.2045 BTC
15:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 103 @ 0.00598999 = 0.617 BTC [+] {6}
15:27 mike_c s.mnky is going to implement the infinite monkey protocol.
15:28 mike_c http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2795.txt
15:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 80 @ 0.00598999 = 0.4792 BTC [+] {3}
15:29 jurov prolly ends up as reference RFC implementation
15:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.67 = 1.34 BTC [+]
15:31 jurov mircea_popescu: consider asking MPOE-PR to announce on trolltalk that S.MNKY is hiring :DDD
15:32 rithm hi
15:32 nubbins` jcpham was a better nick
15:33 rithm yo mam
15:33 rithm a
15:33 nubbins` http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMPM1q_Uyxc
15:33 ozbot Rhythm is a dancer - YouTube
15:33 mike_c genius jurov. put the forum to good use for once.
15:33 rithm satoshi convinced me
15:34 ThickAsThieves sup benkay
15:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 18 @ 0.00599999 = 0.108 BTC [+]
15:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07999397 = 0.24 BTC [+]
15:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 102 @ 0.0055 = 0.561 BTC
15:46 nubbins` i forgot how much i like skinny puppy
15:46 nubbins` some of their earlier shit is insane
15:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.005999 = 0.12 BTC [-]
15:49 mircea_popescu jurov lol maybe an idea
15:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 37 @ 0.00449991 = 0.1665 BTC [-]
15:51 mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/776/light-sweet-crude-oil-wti-jan-2015-over/#c2568
15:51 ozbot BitBet - Light Sweet Crude Oil (WTI) Jan 2015 over $200 at any point in 2014
15:52 mircea_popescu today in "Bitcoin People Are Insane" :
15:52 mircea_popescu guy that has no idea how to work cmegroup.com wants to bet on the oil price
15:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 115 @ 0.00449991 = 0.5175 BTC [-]
16:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 69 @ 0.00449991 = 0.3105 BTC [-]
16:02 ThickAsThieves We Are All Bitcoin https://bitcoinfoundation.org/blog/?p=510
16:03 ThickAsThieves "Everyone who is involved in Bitcoin understands the strength of the design." do they?
16:03 nubbins` depends on your definition of "involved" :D
16:03 ThickAsThieves bleh, buncha hot air text
16:03 ThickAsThieves TLDR
16:04 mircea_popescu garzik trying to undo piles of piled idiocy.
16:04 nubbins` twist: leah mcgrath goodman is satoshi nakamoto
16:05 ThickAsThieves and married to John Goodman
16:05 Namworld Well I hear government backing of a fiat currency gives value, but faith does not give innate value to a fiat like BTC. Apparently if I disagree and claim both are fiat, without innate value and purely faith based valuation, I don't know what I'm talking about.
16:05 Namworld It's nice to know only faith in government counts.
16:05 mircea_popescu you're preachin' to the choir.
16:06 ThickAsThieves "Jeff Garzik is an engineer, blogger, futurist and entrepreneur. "
16:06 nubbins` futurist!
16:06 ThickAsThieves how do i become a futurisy?
16:06 Namworld I know.
16:06 ThickAsThieves t
16:06 nubbins` first step is to become a wizard
16:06 ThickAsThieves can i also be a pastist
16:06 nubbins` second step is to call yourself a futurist instead of a wizard
16:06 ThickAsThieves or a presenist
16:06 ThickAsThieves t
16:06 nubbins` pastists are called throwbacks
16:07 nubbins` or codgers if they're really good at it
16:07 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves pastits are the guys who attack the pasties to the tits.
16:07 jurov not 1337 enough.. should be phuturist instead
16:07 nubbins` attack with scissors
16:07 mircea_popescu or maybe a fartist
16:07 mircea_popescu like a far seeing fart artist
16:07 nubbins` god DAMN there are some good smells coming up the stairs
16:07 assbot Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1695879/plain/)
16:07 mircea_popescu !b 2
16:08 nubbins` i've been boiling some pork bones for 4 hours now
16:08 nubbins` i suspect p just lifted the lid to stir
16:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 50 @ 0.0055 = 0.275 BTC
16:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 120 @ 0.0055 = 0.66 BTC
16:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.00599 = 0.1198 BTC [-]
16:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.63000201 = 1.26 BTC [-]
16:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.04250006 = 0.1275 BTC [-] {2}
16:22 mircea_popescu http://i.imgur.com/3aGHJHc.jpg
16:25 nubbins` would wear
16:25 mircea_popescu ;p;
16:28 mircea_popescu http://i.imgur.com/575U3WI.gif
16:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 912 @ 0.00052059 = 0.4748 BTC [-] {6}
16:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 204 @ 0.0055 = 1.122 BTC {2}
16:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 20 @ 0.0055 = 0.11 BTC
16:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.07249999 = 0.725 BTC [+]
16:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 65 @ 0.0055 = 0.3575 BTC
16:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.07260011 = 0.6534 BTC [+] {2}
16:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 20 @ 0.00519874 = 0.104 BTC [-]
16:59 BingoBoingo Is S.MNKY hiring a futurist?
17:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 200 @ 0.0055 = 1.1 BTC
17:06 benkay it's your MNKY moment, BingoBoingo.
17:06 benkay MNK(S.)Y
17:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 20 @ 0.0055 = 0.11 BTC
17:09 jurov BingoBoingo: no, that would be X.MNKY
17:10 mircea_popescu lol
17:11 mircea_popescu "i feel the need to add this otherwise lame alt exchange pre-announcement
17:11 mircea_popescu thread to today's notes due to my distinct impression i'm watching signals
17:11 mircea_popescu pass through a colony of penguins."
17:11 BingoBoingo jurov: Ah.
17:14 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo btw, any atc sold into your bid ?
17:15 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Not yet
17:15 mircea_popescu wonder what all the miners are doing with their loot.
17:16 BingoBoingo Well, someone bought an ask.
17:17 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=1.0
17:17 ozbot Bitcoin Discussion
17:17 mircea_popescu kinda lovely how the spirit oif the discussion has changed.
17:17 mircea_popescu from 5 threads hyping the OMG SATOSHI FOUND angle we're now on to "omg media lied".
17:19 benkay mircea_popescu: cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/03/06_you-have-not-found-satoshi.html
17:19 dexX7 don't forget about all those "this poor guys life is scwered, people will murder him 1000 %" posts
17:20 nubbins` http://imgur.com/N8ifBU8
17:20 ozbot imgur: the simple image sharer
17:20 nubbins` going on 6 hours now
17:20 nubbins` still not sure what i'm doing with it ;(
17:21 mircea_popescu benkay pretty much
17:21 mircea_popescu nubbins` add beans, bottle the gas.
17:21 nubbins` heh
17:21 rithm lol
17:21 nubbins` you can see the high water mark on the side of the pot
17:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 109 @ 0.00439999 = 0.4796 BTC [+] {3}
17:22 benkay nubbins`: soak oats overnight in that shit
17:22 benkay savory oatmeal
17:23 nubbins` ehh, not a fan of oatmean
17:23 nubbins` *oatmeal
17:23 benkay steel cut oats?
17:23 benkay the nubbly things?
17:23 mircea_popescu "Yesterday the CEO of Bitcoin got bankrupt, today they found the founder...."
17:23 nubbins` if i can find bean paste, i might make 감자탕 (gamjatang)
17:23 mircea_popescu no srsly, i'm like fucking proud of the forum suddenly.
17:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0433988 = 0.1302 BTC [+]
17:23 mircea_popescu it's like... +1000 points
17:24 nubbins` only 8k short
17:25 rithm yep
17:25 mircea_popescu sometyhing like that
17:25 mircea_popescu pirateat40 hey i hear pirateat40 repaid your bitxoinz
17:26 mircea_popescu " @stacyherbert · 3h Great work by #KeiserReport regular @truth_eater. I had NO idea she was working on the story of 21st century!"
17:27 mircea_popescu lol is there any shit keiser fails to taste ?
17:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.63000201 BTC [-]
17:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0433988 = 0.217 BTC [+]
17:30 nubbins` https://twitter.com/DorianSatoshi
17:30 nubbins` i lel'd
17:30 ozbot Dorian S. Nakamoto (DorianSatoshi) on Twitter
17:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.00087007 = 1.8271 BTC [+]
17:33 mircea_popescu https://twitter.com/DorianSatoshi/status/441689519193350144 lol
17:33 ozbot Twitter / DorianSatoshi: Hypothetically speaking, how ...
17:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.63899999 = 1.917 BTC [+]
17:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07399999 = 0.37 BTC [-]
17:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.63899999 = 1.278 BTC [+]
17:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 547 @ 0.0055 = 3.0085 BTC
17:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.07585076 = 0.6068 BTC [+] {3}
17:44 nubbins` dat am1
17:44 nubbins` HEADING STRAIGHT BACK TO 5
17:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 32 @ 0.07450096 = 2.384 BTC [-] {6}
17:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0730001 = 0.73 BTC [-] {2}
17:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 9 @ 0.0434 = 0.3906 BTC [+]
17:48 mircea_popescu "In the late 60's, Termen left spy work and got a university job doing acoustical research. One day a visiting Western journalist ran in to Termen, and unfortunately reported the fact that he was still alive in the New York Times.
17:48 mircea_popescu This was too much for Termen's boss, who took all of Termen's musical instruments outside and chopped them up with an axe. “Electricity is only good for making electric chairs,” he explained. And that was the end of Termen's university career.
17:48 mircea_popescu This is what oppression often looks like. No one called from Moscow and told this guy to destroy Termen's work. But he didn't care to stick his neck out, and took a proactive approach."
17:48 mircea_popescu this is quite relevant for bitcoin. living in an oppressive, totalitarian regime does not mean obama orders your business destroyed
17:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.04345 = 0.1738 BTC [+]
17:49 mircea_popescu it simply means that you can't find a us bank that'' work with you.
17:49 mircea_popescu because "aml", which is to say... didn't care to stick its neck out.
18:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 22 @ 0.10885293 = 2.3948 BTC [-] {8}
18:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 22 @ 0.005999 = 0.132 BTC [+]
18:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4550 @ 0.00087095 = 3.9628 BTC [+]
18:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.63 = 1.26 BTC [-] {2}
18:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18900 @ 0.00087013 = 16.4455 BTC [-] {2}
18:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.075 = 0.15 BTC [-]
18:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.075 = 0.225 BTC [-]
18:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6492121 BTC [+]
18:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07399999 = 0.37 BTC [-]
18:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11850 @ 0.00086899 = 10.2975 BTC [-] {3}
18:30 mircea_popescu ;;tslb
18:30 gribble Time since last block: 8 minutes and 16 seconds ago
18:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 215 @ 0.0055 = 1.1825 BTC
18:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07399999 = 0.37 BTC [-]
18:41 wao-ender heh aml
18:41 wao-ender I still wondering how I will evade it.
18:41 wao-ender oh, co-operate, right.
18:42 B007 http://bitbet.us/bet/635/1btc-10-000-usd/ someone needs to bet a bunch of bitcoin >1000
18:42 ozbot BitBet - 1BTC >= $10,000 USD
18:43 mircea_popescu that promises to be an interesting bet.
18:44 mike_c wow, no faith. http://bitbet.us/bet/779/bitcoin-price-above-1000-before-april/
18:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 34 @ 0.005 = 0.17 BTC [-]
18:49 mircea_popescu mike_c lol
18:49 mircea_popescu im sure someone will eventually.
18:49 mircea_popescu nice arbitrage op there anyway, the 10k bet shows 3:2, the 1k bet shows 100:1 ?!
18:50 ThickAsThieves lol did you guys see the Satoshi free lunch thing?
18:51 ThickAsThieves http://instagram.com/p/lNv9-_QaNF
18:51 ozbot Instagram
18:51 mircea_popescu yeah pretty good troll acct.
18:51 ThickAsThieves no
18:51 ThickAsThieves for reals
18:51 ThickAsThieves he chose one reporter
18:51 ThickAsThieves to go to sushi
18:51 mircea_popescu yes yes
18:52 mircea_popescu and started derping on twitter
18:52 mircea_popescu makes perfect sens
18:52 mircea_popescu e
18:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 23 @ 0.0055 = 0.1265 BTC
19:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 180 @ 0.0055 = 0.99 BTC
19:02 BingoBoingo A literal, rather than figurative fire fight http://www.ksdk.com/story/news/local/2014/03/06/st-libory-illinois-bike-apartment-fire-firefighter-attacked/6130449/
19:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13593 @ 0.00086856 = 11.8063 BTC [-] {2}
19:16 asciilifeform so, has the woman behind the satoshi crap gone to burn in the same hell jayson blair is in ?
19:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15276 @ 0.00087125 = 13.3092 BTC [+] {3}
19:19 dexX7 woah this is sick. so many cameras. the whole day i was thinking "pf.. who cares, as if one of the redditors and whosoever would ever leave his house" :D
19:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25524 @ 0.00087213 = 22.2602 BTC [+] {3}
19:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.624 = 1.248 BTC [-] {2}
19:25 cads so we've allegedly discovered the identity of satoshi?
19:26 BingoBoingo No, Newsweek just accelerated its slow death
19:26 asciilifeform cads: might as well say that we finally learned that lbj had kennedy plugged.
19:27 BingoBoingo I thought DeGaul plugged Kennedy?
19:27 cads I don't understand what you guys are saying - do you guys think the man is the originator of BTC?
19:27 dub yes
19:27 dub undoubtedly
19:27 asciilifeform cads: there is no reason whatsoever to think so.
19:27 mike_c no way. there is extensive lexical analysis proving mp is satoshi.
19:29 cads asciilifeform: I don't see how anyone could really reveal that they are in fact satoshi
19:29 asciilifeform cads: signing with a known satoshi addr key might be a good start.
19:30 cads oh yeah, I am an idiot
19:30 dub or are you satoshi trying to throw us off teh scent!
19:31 BingoBoingo Just as likely actual Satoshi disliked this Satoshi and chose his name to reserve that seat in the Gasenwagen
19:32 cads the part that makes the article high entertainment is where they reveal that the man's name is actually satoshi nakamoto
19:32 cads once you buy that this could be possible the rest of the article does down like a glass of water :)
19:43 dexX7 here is another close up picture http://i.imgur.com/GmNiee5.jpg
19:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47316 @ 0.00087417 = 41.3622 BTC [+] {3}
19:49 Duffer1 that poor guy
19:50 Duffer1 he's going to have newsies camped out on his lawn
19:51 dexX7 yup
19:53 asciilifeform 'He might turn the speech into the usual denunciation of
19:53 asciilifeform traitors and thought-criminals, but that was a little too
19:53 asciilifeform obvious, while to invent a victory at the front, or some
19:53 asciilifeform triumph of over-production in the Ninth Three-Year Plan, might
19:53 asciilifeform complicate the records too much. What was needed was a piece of
19:53 asciilifeform pure fantasy. Suddenly there sprang into his mind, ready made
19:53 asciilifeform as it were, the image of a certain Comrade Ogilvy, who had
19:53 asciilifeform recently died in battle, in heroic circumstances. There were
19:53 asciilifeform occasions when Big Brother devoted his Order for the Day to
19:53 asciilifeform commemorating some humble, rankand-file Party member whose life
19:53 asciilifeform and death he held up as an example worthy to be followed. Today
19:53 asciilifeform he should commemorate Comrade Ogilvy. It was true that there
19:53 asciilifeform was no such person as Comrade Ogilvy, but a few lines of print
19:53 asciilifeform and a couple of faked photographs would soon bring him into
19:53 asciilifeform existence.
19:53 asciilifeform Winston thought for a moment, then pulled the speakwrite
19:53 asciilifeform towards him and began dictating in Big Brother's familiar
19:53 asciilifeform style: a style at once military and pedantic, and, because of a
19:54 asciilifeform trick of asking questions and then promptly answering them
19:54 asciilifeform ('What lessons do we learn from this fact, comrades ? The
19:54 asciilifeform lesson -- which is also one of the fundamental principles of
19:54 asciilifeform Ingsoc -- that,' etc., etc.), easy to imitate.
19:54 asciilifeform At the age of three Comrade Ogilvy had refused all toys
19:54 asciilifeform except a drum, a sub-machine gun, and a model helicopter. At
19:54 asciilifeform six -- a year early, by a special relaxation of the rules -- he
19:54 asciilifeform had joined the Spies, at nine he had been a troop leader. At
19:54 asciilifeform eleven he had denounced his uncle to the Thought Police after
19:54 asciilifeform overhearing a conversation which appeared to him to have
19:54 asciilifeform criminal tendencies. At seventeen he had been a district
19:54 asciilifeform organizer of the Junior Anti-Sex League. At nine teen he had
19:54 asciilifeform designed a hand-grenade which had been adopted by the Ministry
19:54 asciilifeform of Peace and which, at its first trial, had killed thirtyone
19:54 asciilifeform Eurasian prisoners in one burst. At twenty-three he had
19:54 asciilifeform perished in action. Pursued by enemy jet planes while flying
19:54 asciilifeform over the Indian Ocean with important despatches, he had
19:54 asciilifeform weighted his body with his machine gun and leapt out of the
19:54 asciilifeform helicopter into deep water, despatches and all -- an end, said
19:54 asciilifeform Big Brother, which it was impossible to contemplate without
19:54 asciilifeform feelings of envy. Big Brother added a few remarks on the purity
19:54 asciilifeform and single-mindedness of Comrade Ogilvy's life. He was a total
19:54 asciilifeform abstainer and a nonsmoker, had no recreations except a daily
19:54 dub ccccombo breaker
19:54 asciilifeform hour in the gymnasium, and had taken a vow of celibacy,
19:54 asciilifeform believing marriage and the care of a family to be incompatible
19:54 asciilifeform with a twenty-four-hour-a-day devotion to duty. He had no
19:54 asciilifeform subjects of conversation except the principles of Ingsoc, and
19:54 asciilifeform no aim in life except the defeat of the Eurasian enemy and the
19:55 asciilifeform hunting-down of spies, saboteurs, thoughtcriminals, and
19:55 asciilifeform traitors generally.
19:55 asciilifeform Winston debated with himself whether to award Comrade
19:55 asciilifeform Ogilvy the Order of Conspicuous Merit: in the end he decided
19:55 asciilifeform against it because of the unnecessary cross-referencing that it
19:55 asciilifeform would entail.'
19:55 asciilifeform - the obvious place
19:55 asciilifeform '... Comrade Ogilvy, unimagined an hour ago, was now a fact. It struck him as curious that you could create dead men but not living ones. Comrade Ogilvy, who had never existed in the present, now existed in the past, and when once the act of forgery was forgotten, he would exist just as authentically, and upon the same evidence, as Charlemagne or Julius Caesar.'
19:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 363 @ 0.0055 = 1.9965 BTC
19:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00087604 = 7.4463 BTC [+]
19:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.62100002 BTC [-]
19:58 btclovernick all my coinbase bitcoins have been stolen
19:58 btclovernick can you hep me
19:58 btclovernick e
19:58 asciilifeform btclovernick: how could we possibly help you ?
19:58 btclovernick i dunno
19:59 btclovernick e to reclaim or retrieve these funds, as they've been sent outside of Coinbase and are irreversible transfers. Whoever withdrew these did leave a trail however, and logged the IP addresses 93.174.90.30, 212.227.102.198, and 37.221.171.236 in our system.
20:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.621 = 1.863 BTC [-] {2}
20:00 btclovernick can u pls help me
20:00 dexX7 tell about your security messurements, so at least you may learn something for the future
20:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.07499799 = 0.3 BTC [+]
20:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 35 @ 0.0055 = 0.1925 BTC
20:01 mike_c who is "our" system?
20:01 dexX7 2fa enabled? mail account used for other services? did you reuse the password? windows, linux?
20:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00087864 = 2.6359 BTC [+]
20:13 asciilifeform http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/ap-exclusive-man-denies-hes-bitcoin-founder/2014/03/06/a0878e10-a590-11e3-b865-38b254d92063_story.html
20:13 ozbot AP Exclusive: Man denies he’s Bitcoin founder - The Washington Post
20:14 MisterE I wish they would leave the old guy alone
20:14 MisterE ffs they printed his house name of his whole family then go on to say he's worth 400 mil
20:15 asciilifeform MisterE: there is exactly zero evidence that the man with the unlucky name had anything to do with bitcoin.
20:15 MisterE yea they might even bothering the wrong guy!
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20:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07770001 = 0.3885 BTC [+]
20:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 18 @ 0.07899999 = 1.422 BTC [+] {2}
20:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.07899999 = 0.553 BTC [+]
20:37 dexX7 http://imgur.com/2FvwEK0WC lol i never saw this
20:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4864 @ 0.000187 = 0.9096 BTC [-]
20:45 diametric http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/bitcoin-open-source?commentId=2003008%3AComment%3A52186
20:45 diametric I suppose his account could have been compromised, but thats pretty interesting.
20:46 diametric How long ago was it he surfaced?
20:46 asciilifeform http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topic/listForContributor?user=0ye0gncqg772o
20:46 ozbot Satoshi Nakamoto's Discussions - P2P Foundation
20:47 dexX7 woah
20:47 diametric https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=504715.0
20:47 diametric Thread on it
20:47 diametric asciilifeform: when was the last time he surfaced?
20:47 dexX7 2009
20:47 diametric No I'm pretty sure I saw posts from him in 2010
20:47 asciilifeform yeah that was the last i recall
20:49 cazalla maybe someone at gmx did a password reset and accessed his email?
20:49 diametric Its entirely possible
20:49 asciilifeform maybe one of you with an account on btctalk should ask him to repost, signed
20:49 dexX7 on btctalk?
20:50 asciilifeform nm
20:50 asciilifeform on 'p2p foundation'
20:50 diametric You guys heard about the car chase? hah
20:51 diametric And the video of faux-Satoshi wanting his free lunch? I thought it was hilarious, I like him
20:53 dexX7 du dum... Your profile details must be approved by the Administrator before you can become a member of P2P Foundation
20:54 dexX7 it's much more likely that his account was not hacked and this post is legit, right?
20:55 diametric dexX7: sort of.
20:56 diametric hacking the account in less than 24 hours to make that single post is unlikely. The hackers sitting on the account for such a moment seems unlikely also. I'm thinking either its the real Satoshi, or the admins of p2pfoundation fucking with everyone.
20:56 diametric the last bit is more plausible.
20:56 dexX7 lol
20:57 BingoBoingo Probably the site admins, it isn't signed
20:57 BingoBoingo No GPG signature, can't be authentic
20:57 diametric Do we have record of his signature? My bitcoin history is bad
21:00 BingoBoingo diametric: His public key is out there
21:00 diametric happen to have a link? I'd like to have it on hand in case such a message surfaces
21:01 BingoBoingo https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin.org/pull/79
21:01 diametric hmm
21:01 diametric even more interesting is the guy that caught it
21:01 diametric Mere minutes after the reply was posted
21:02 BingoBoingo https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin.org/commit/19e0c74df2162d4510db5df9e50d5ac53b38c498
21:02 diametric Literally two minutes after "Satoshi" posted, a reddit account surfaced and posted it to /r/bitcoin.
21:02 diametric BingoBoingo: cool thanks
21:03 dexX7 https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin.org/commit/19e0c74df2162d4510db5df9e50d5ac53b38c498 ;)
21:07 diametric asciilifeform: So what do you think?
21:12 MisterE http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/henry-kissinger-to-settle-the-ukraine-crisis-start-at-the-end/2014/03/05/46dad868-a496-11e3-8466-d34c451760b9_story.html
21:12 ozbot Henry Kissinger: To settle the Ukraine crisis, start at the end - The Washington Post
21:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 35 @ 0.00493748 = 0.1728 BTC [-] {3}
21:23 Bugpowder Whee... http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/profile/SatoshiNakamoto
21:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26050 @ 0.00087821 = 22.8774 BTC [-] {2}
21:25 asciilifeform dexX7, diametric: 'Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32)'
21:25 asciilifeform !!!
21:25 asciilifeform !!111!
21:25 kakobreklaa lol
21:32 BingoBoingo ;;later tell asciilifeform, well Bitcoin was originally released as a Windows build and source
21:32 gribble The operation succeeded.
21:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.0427 = 0.2562 BTC [-]
21:36 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all
21:36 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 665.09, vol: 10214.42164297 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 646.755, vol: 5297.68096 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 665.46260657, vol: 6973.2690937 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 663.55, vol: 28.99637523 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 645.71465, vol: 5259.74100000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 670.0829, vol: 7.41631627 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 667.0125, vol: 42.51042954 | Volume-weighted last (1 more message)
21:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.0875 = 0.2625 BTC [+] {3}
21:36 BingoBoingo Amazing Drama
21:36 BingoBoingo ;;lasers
21:36 gribble ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!*
21:39 BingoBoingo .d
21:39 ozbot 3.816 billion | Next Diff in 1003 blocks | Estimated Change: 6.7063% in 6d 11h 50m 12s
21:39 BingoBoingo .bait
21:39 ozbot http://24.media.tumblr.com/0c619151b340665f0198d0d5aeb34c81/tumblr_mt1wwuGcIo1qb139no1_1280.jpg
21:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10125 @ 0.00018799 = 1.9034 BTC [+] {2}
21:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0426 = 0.1704 BTC [-] {4}
21:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 22 @ 0.04203929 = 0.9249 BTC [-] {5}
21:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07799999 = 0.156 BTC [-]
21:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.042 = 0.294 BTC [-] {2}
21:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25813 @ 0.00087705 = 22.6393 BTC [-] {4}
22:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00087944 = 2.0227 BTC [+]
22:06 MisterE Buy this: http://cgi.ebay.ca/ebaymotors/TU-95MS-Soviet-Bomber-/121288805711?forcev4exp=true
22:08 Duffer1 i'm surprised Gov has come out against aero but not magicjack...
22:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 545 @ 0.0055 = 2.9975 BTC
22:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.02200012 = 0.132 BTC [-] {2}
22:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 79 @ 0.02020405 = 1.5961 BTC [-] {12}
22:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 317 @ 0.00327747 = 1.039 BTC [+] {16}
22:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 283 @ 0.00392118 = 1.1097 BTC [+] {8}
22:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.07955882 = 0.9547 BTC [+] {4}
22:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 70 @ 0.00439995 = 0.308 BTC [+] {3}
22:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 8 @ 0.0201002 = 0.1608 BTC [+] {3}
22:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13690 @ 0.00087929 = 12.0375 BTC [-]
22:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.02349962 = 0.235 BTC [+] {4}
22:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16100 @ 0.00087944 = 14.159 BTC [+]
23:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 25 @ 0.0055 = 0.1375 BTC
23:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47000 @ 0.00087794 = 41.2632 BTC [-] {5}
23:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.593 BTC [-]
23:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [MS] 63 @ 0.00409938 = 0.2583 BTC [+] {4}
23:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [MS] 36 @ 0.00411732 = 0.1482 BTC [+] {4}
23:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 27 @ 0.04200003 = 1.134 BTC [-] {2}
23:28 artifexd .bait
23:28 ozbot http://24.media.tumblr.com/1310eb7ca6e59f6d833c5da244665384/tumblr_mxlsetQ9F21rr4szko1_500.jpg
23:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 280 @ 0.0055 = 1.54 BTC
23:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 20 @ 0.0055 = 0.11 BTC
23:51 BingoBoingo http://gawker.com/alleged-bitcoin-founder-has-no-idea-what-youre-talking-1538365947
23:51 ozbot Alleged "Bitcoin Inventor" Has No Idea What You're Talking About
23:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.07994131 = 0.4796 BTC [+] {3}
23:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07994832 = 0.3997 BTC [+] {2}
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