#asciilifeform | 2022-03-07

asciilifeform: can search for them here: https://coinatmradar.com/ (dunno how accurate/up-to-date their data is though)

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filter by my nick, its all in there

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verisimilitude: it has 0 to do with aesthetics. simply that hill-climbing algo for e.g. staying dry would have you sit in a phone booth until rain stops, rather than going home, even if home is across street

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'investor' scum behave (at least collectively) in exactly this way

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A lot of unintelligent behaviour can boil down to ``lacks aesthetic tastes'', asciilifeform.

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That's how I start this article; intelligent and good taste are linked.

00:07

Good taste has a man step back from such strategies, because they taste wrong.

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A man with good taste won't generally act like an amoeba.

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00:32

arguably, excess of 'taste' can be exactly how one ends up in that phone booth

00:32

Logged on 2022-01-06 20:45:05 verisimilitude: Part of why I don't write much, is I want perfection or nothing, and something that can't be ideal may not be worth trying.

00:37

Ah, I've been struck, and rightfully.

00:50

mat's, is there an expectation that binance will work towards regulatory compliance? sounds a bit like uber, shunning `da rules' until market share is good

00:58

Seemingly, that box would be tickable, they probably have a unique desk for most whales on rock 3 already

00:58

read the logs

00:59

Oh, is that not a new insight?

01:10

it does look like that's the plan

01:11

evade the law, get bigger, shape legislation to benefit when the moment arrives

01:11

Those otc relationships could possibly continue unencumbered.

01:17

I get the waterfall idea inasmuch as these businesses can't run out of coin

01:19

if it was me, who had the crown dispensation to waterfall, i'd find some pals to take the other sides of these bets and soak the reich for their coins

01:21

and one day the dispensation will dissipate and my friends will reimburse me for cheap coins

01:21

that's kinda the game right?

01:27

if my opsec is good, i don't spend the proceeds lavishly, those on the other side can take these bets in opaque order books on other exchanges, and it would just be another loss in a list of endless losses

01:28

i don't think this is a difficult conclusion and also why the waterfall doesn't make sense anymore

01:28

if you had a view on binance orderbooks, dyareckon you could increase your stack?

01:29

maybe

01:29

same

01:44

bnbusdt ez mone

01:44

lol

01:44

vex: haven't been flooded?

01:45

nah mate, I'm highter than the sun

01:45

high on life eh?

01:45

you?

01:45

icarus be jelly

01:45

bit boggy, but we're harvesting

01:46

gotta get it off asap

01:49

I think alfie was asking the other day if anyone else uses self driving other than teslas. HArvesters do it

01:50

yeah nah yeah it's not really self driving

01:50

teslas i think have control over acc and braking, headers don't (at least none I've driven)

01:51

It's just row correction to keep feeding along the rows, planters use em too

01:51

So it'll keep a straight line?

01:51

yup

01:51

still gotta make the turn?

01:51

til you get to the end of the row, then you've gotta disengage to make a turn

01:52

seems legit

01:52

a guy a couple blocks over has completely autonomous sprayers, feeding into monsanto's pockets.

01:53

i'd like to get away from farming, far too much chemical.

01:53

mate it's the best game to be in. food isn't getting cheaper

01:53

not crop farming.

01:54

cattle is where the $$$ is at

01:54

count for inflation and all the bullshit taxes for cow farts and chemical reliance and the farmers bottom line is what gets cut into

01:54

my word

01:54

gina sold off a bit

01:55

best time to sell cars and shit aswell

01:55

if you gotta house, banger time to sell, dumbfuck time to buy

01:55

true dat

01:57

but then you gotta weigh your opts because if you don't buy something b4 crash those 600k dollarydoos worth nothin'

01:58

gotta stay somewhere

01:58

^^^

01:58

and to buy errythin' gonna cost more buy the time you can actually buy from the sell time

01:59

economy's fucked. wat dou?

01:59

keep on truckin mate

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heh

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crtdaydreams trucks 30ton load of wheat down border

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crtdaydreams trucks 30ton load of wheat back

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dafaq?

02:00

literally what's happening

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whats that all about?

02:01

get more $$$ to sell interstate the exact same amount of the exact same grain

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so truckies are carting back and forth the exact same grain loads interstate

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worth putting in silos?

02:03

I still don't get it

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ok

02:04

so you sell there, buy another load?

02:04

so say farmer A in NSW wants to sell grain, in NSW he might get $180/ton but in QLD he'll get $200/ton

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so he sells to QLD

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now farmer B in QLD also wants to sell exact same kind of grain, but in QLD he might get $175/ton, in NSW he can get $190/ton so he sells to NSW

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so you end up with truckies trucking the same amount and kind of grain back and forth interstate

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*not the exact same load of grain

02:07

fuck, why the discrepency?

02:07

idk, markets fucked lol

02:07

that and taxes

02:08

sneak it off to iraq. isn't that what the wheat board was doing?

02:08

pretty sure they're still paying off that fuckup

02:09

Diesoleum ain't cheap either

02:09

fyi for any readers, the wheat board sold a fuck tonne of grain overseas to iraq b4 middle east war, it was all seed grain aswell, pickled and errythin' and they fucking ate it.

02:10

they are still paying farmers all across australia a measly $70~ something a year for grain that was sold and eaten years decades ago

02:11

saw petrol prices in brisy up to $2.13~ a few weeks ago before floods.

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dunno abt diesel, stations cost ~20% moar than bulk buying to farms

02:17

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-03-06#1082804 << correction, $7~ something every couple of years, they're not even paying inflation.

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Logged on 2022-03-06 21:09:53 crtdaydreams: they are still paying farmers all across australia a measly $70~ something a year for grain that was sold and eaten years decades ago

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02:48

Well, my UDP binding works now. I was improperly specifying a Sockaddr parameter as in, not in out, and so the changes wouldn't necessarily propagate.

02:51

Expect it to be refined and published within the month.

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whaack back at the terminal

03:57

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-02-28#1081274 <--- wow, i am stoked to hear that it took you only 12 days, I am going to go through the record in the logs to see if I can find clues as to where my trb node was when i started syncing trbexplorer, but i had indeed thought that trbexplorer would take 4 months ontop of trbexplorer

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Logged on 2022-02-28 10:58:57 billymg: whaack: dunno if you tested that, but i think it would be fair for you to list the sync time as ~12 days provided one starts with a fully synced trb. i don't think it's fair to trbexplorer to have to include trb's slow sync time

03:58

wb whaack

03:59

asciilifeform: i rented out a server in NZ , i will try your cement patch as well

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and re billymg's point , i'll have an opportunity to test the trbsync + trbexplorer sync

04:00

ty vex

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not really my place, but I haven't sen you in a bit

04:05

ever bin nz whaack?

04:05

shit's wild

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so many fullface tattos in the pub

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vex felt like a food group

04:14

ragalns is like a nine minute ride on agood day too

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHjVIBDYgXg

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it's never that smol

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it was double overhead when I saw it. Didn't have a board. forgettable

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHjVIBDYgXg

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vG8RCsAEhBw

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https://www.militarytimes.com/off-duty/military-culture/2022/03/02/calling-all-pirates-this-us-lawmaker-wants-you-to-seize-russian-vessels

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mats: lulzy demagoguery

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mats: i'd expect a 3e8 $ tub has sumthing to shoot back with, even if not Officially

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'a letter of marque came from the king, for the scummiest vessel i've ever seen...'

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signpost: did you remove your articles re a republican os?

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can't seem to find htem

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verisimilitue: I finally figured out what irks me about the way you write: you use "I'd" a bunch of places I would never use the contraction, and sometimes it takes me a couple times reading a sentence confusedly before I realize

15:17

you mean "I had" instead of "I would"

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Logged on 2022-03-04 15:39:39 verisimilitude: After using Tor for years, my stance softened. Eventually, I'd to accept I was becoming neurotic, and my traffic wasn't so interesting in any case.

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whaack: I did remove them. recall they came of MP demanding that I help newcomer flatterers with their "gales".

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what'd you need from them?

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signpost: don't need them, but i liked the concept of 'tightening the rachet' and working towards a smaller and smaller more understandable OS

16:41

scoopbot

New article on billymg: Bitdash Crawler Geolocation, Time Series Data Collection, and an IRC Bot

16:41

whaack: I'll be rewriting them with a focus on Pentacle, probably get to it before the month ends.

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signpost: great, excited to see

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happy to have collaborators too. at present I've got all deps in their own vpatches, and modifications to work with musl in separate vpatches.

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"pbuild" has a rudimentary dep system. whole thing builds and builds itself.

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I just got sidelined onto this "harden fort signpost" project due to current events.

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a little potassium iodate here, a little ammo there, etc

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armored benz

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signpost: what work would a potential collaborator do?

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i have some work to finish up with trbexplorer still but soon i'll be onto a new project

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mats: got the tundra dawg, all I need

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whaack: major item left is porting over the cuntoo installer

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i briefly thought about ghetto armoring my ride with phone books

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and a maritime battery in the trunk for 24h dash cam

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mats: I'm only setting up for a few weeks of instability, after which I'm headed to a family ranch.

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not bad ideas though

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rather, I'm stocked for more, but I have no delusions about, say, eating MREs for years.

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shinohai

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-03-07#1082853 <<< shitcoin "whitepapers" proven to add 2x more penetrating ballistic protection.

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Logged on 2022-03-07 12:08:11 mats: i briefly thought about ghetto armoring my ride with phone books

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shinohai

$vwap

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busybot

The 24-Hour VWAP for BTC is $ 39437.10 USD

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lol!

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and we're to believe 'no waterfall'

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(or, wat, folx going short on btc and long on MREs ..? )

17:43

... long on cemetery plots ? or wat.

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SP500 and DJI down about 2% today

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https://www.lbma.org.uk/articles/good-delivery-list-update-gold-silver-russian-refiners-suspended << meanwhile metals scarcity being engineered.

17:47

theres a lot of turbulence ahead as ru sanctions induced illiquidity works its way through the system

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signpost: bonus: ru removed sales tax from private purchases of au etc

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encouraging folx to load up on subj instead of reich currencies

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good for them. also saw a lul about legalizing software piracy as long as the turd comes from natostan.

17:48

20y overdue, lol, but yes

17:48

people being margined as their shit gets marked to 0, selling treasuries to cover losses

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this will be one for the textbooks

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mats: yep, they banned paying liabilities in anything but ruble

17:48

"you know, that thing you're trying to kill, you bastards"

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wouldn't shock me to see UBI proposed seriously this year alongside massive bailouts.

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in the US.

17:50

reich has precisely 1 tool in the toolbox -- printer, brr

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while on the subj, pleb food markets are fucked

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(well, 2, 'let's set planet on fire and get discounted goodies at fire sale' is the other, but aint working out so well atm)

17:51

asciilifeform: the circus better be good because there's not going to be much panem.

17:52

like in prev. reich, over9000 folx very evidently would rather have the circus than the bread.

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signpost: not clear , for instance, how with 'bailouts' usg will make the missing diesel (~unavail. from u.s.-pumped fracked crude) materialize

17:57

they wont, just one of the notes of the death rattle.

17:57

i believe ru o&g products are still being delivered, not everything is being shut out

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didnt have time to look at the specifics this weekend though

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mats: still delivered (lulzily -- in what and with what are they paying? or is it 'phree' like last 15y of natgas to ukristan?)

17:58

there will be more notices "supply chain issues, sorry "

17:58

mats: yeah, the guy doesn't seem abrupt

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the muppet circus already making noises about 'banning ru petro' atm

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i dont think every ru bank is being sanctioned

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I greatly enjoy being pedantic, so it would just be PAN there, signpost.

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but wager slack in the system continues to tighten

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verisimilitude: mmm fair enough

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sberbank and vtb to start

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No, damn it, I just double-checked and that word is PANIS.

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Now I feel silly.

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heh, will be happy to have the luxury to improve my latin grammar again at a later date.

17:59

Those words require more memorization than all other nouns in the language.

18:00

no way ru o&g will get banned

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iirc eu gets 60% and 30% respectively

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mats: were I on the other side, I'd want to induce domestic troubles in adversaries without significant decrease in my own exports

18:00

mats: reich put pistol to its head, pulled trigger, 'no way will bullet actually come out' ?

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doesn't seem trivial either

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er, flipped

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more like they shot a leg

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russians and chinese both demonstrate willingness to experience troubles of their own to unseat the US

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its not clear putin can come out on top after this

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certainly not much is clear.

18:02

sanctions went from 0 to 90 without any escalatory laddering

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usg thinktanks believe its in palace coup territory

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mats: could explain why it looks like his own cabinet didn't necessarily know russia would invade.

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heard this phrase repeated by brookings and csis munkies across multiple channels

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"usg thinktanks" are also paid to tell the US why whatever it wants to do will work. worth keeping in mind.

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sure

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i pay attention to them bc what they say today is what usg says tomorrow

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yep reasonable

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revolving door being what it is

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same reason I listen to e.g. putin's speeches.

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interestingly, india and uae abstained from the un vote

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always thought it was dubious .in was brought into the quad, but i guess a triangle is less strategically intimidating

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signpost not terribly up to speed on how serious the cn-in disputes are.

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US might just be out of friends. couldn't last forever.

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its more the in ru relationship

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Isn't China dependent on the US for food?

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yes

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Food independence is the one way the country hasn't fucked itself over in the last half-century, which I see.

18:09

glory of geography

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curious whether ru can help replace cn food imports.

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I don't think China needs that much vodka.

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in any case, I'd expect major conflict to be an accident, for obvious reasons.

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unclear whether e.g. snapping up more of eastern europe counts as major conflict, given the demonstrated lack of will so far.

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ukraine surpassed us as cn's corn supplier last yr

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yeah, thinking of extended-ru here.

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US food independence is predicated on having oil to run all the tractors for the industrial ag, if oil imports are shut down then the food supply could suffer

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PeterL: if congress has any self-preservation instinct left they will lift every domestic production limit and send the opposition to a forced labor camp in north dakota

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midterms are not close enough, unfortunately.

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I don't think the congress critters are that smart or have the guts to do anything like that

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nope

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verisimilitude: ru has a lot of nonfood commodities exports, vodka isn’t the thing

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http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-03-07#1082909 << by similar token su also 'not out on top' in '45. country was thoroughly trashed, took decades to rebuild.

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Logged on 2022-03-07 13:01:39 mats: its not clear putin can come out on top after this

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if ru can successfully definancialize (i.e. never again give half a rat's arse what 'rub:usd' or 'rub:eur' is, or for that matter make rub nonconvertible like in good ol'days) then will remain a country. alternatively if 'libyaized', as per reich's plan, will be eaten.

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Logged on 2022-03-01 18:58:04 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-03-01#1081647 << if the ru folx have half a brain, will do the obv. thing and definancialize gazprom et al.

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Logged on 2022-02-28 14:45:04 asciilifeform: at one pt, reich installed mole (gorby) and 'won', and feasted on the delish minerals + sawed-up su industrial base & manpower for all of '90s

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http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-03-07#1082912 << reich indeed seems to be betting heavily on its 5th column. the ones already whining about paying 5x the antebellum going rate for ipnoje xiii etc

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Logged on 2022-03-07 13:02:48 mats: usg thinktanks believe its in palace coup territory

18:31

'sanction oligarchs(tm), they'll poison the king by next tues.'

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the trick is, this only stands a chance of working if the 'poisoners' have reason to think they'll get their yachts, golden toilets, etc back as result

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asciilifeform: Russia seems pretty big, what would it look like to have it be eaten? Is that even possible?

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PeterL: in '90s went most of the way to 'eaten'

18:38

I read that some Reddit user got his buddy in the Ukrainian army killed, by uploading a photograph the soldier had taken of his location all for those precious upvotes.

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ru not anywhere near fully recovered from '90s free-for-all. which is why vultures circling over it nao

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Logged on 2022-02-28 12:15:17 asciilifeform: fwiw if ru had its shit together (i.e. had been fully de-eltsinized) there'd be no ukrs, the latter would've been rm -rf'd no later than '14

18:39

verisimilitude: regular occurrence in e.g. syria previously

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over9000 dumbfucks w/ 'stick gps in erry photo' ipnoje etc

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ru demographic loss in '90s exceeded ww2 losses by solid margin. (and this not even counting the seceded territories)

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18:45

today is in same ballpark numerically as e.g. japan.

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little green men with smartphones in crimea also happened

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mats: even nao various armies trying (afaik in vain) to 100%-deiphonize their ranks

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even in us

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(recall the 'pedometer app' scandal)

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yeah lol, strava

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can't have those delicious f35 crash videos leaking out either

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It's amazing that I would have better ``operational security'', meaning don't take fucking photographs and upload them to fucking Facebook, than a soldier.

18:52

do you even have social media tho

18:53

this isn’t even really the tip of the iceberg, nobody knows how to fight without networks in the field

18:54

better to fight w/ ww2-era plaintext walkies than ipnoje (at least w/ the former, dun have delusion of seekrecy)

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No, mats.

18:55

I read some armenian positions were destroyed because of rf emissions

18:55

in the short war with azeris recently

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People really have had their minds ruined by technology. I'm reminded of when I was in a small store, and a woman complained that she had to wait on me because I don't have a cell phone; she was too lazy to walk twenty feet into the store.

18:57

Whatever happened to ``We do this. If I'm not back by X, we then do this.''?

18:58

an easy life.

18:58

mats: does us army no longer have concept of 'radio silence' ?

18:58

somewhat related to the discussion of pwned hardware, a few people are working on a sort of coreboot for cars. i went searching for it after some of the recent discussions re: old pickup vs. botnet on wheels

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billymg: dollars to doughnuts, will (or already has..) end up precisely like 'coreboot' itself

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asciilifeform: ah, coreboot already compromised?

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i.e. 'totally open!1111, believe!' despite carrying over9000 opaque blobs

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asciilifeform: gotcha

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billymg: well noshit, it simply won't boot on anyffin newer than apu1 w/out blobware

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so 'compromised' in the maginot line sense.

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still, don't see why an honest version couldn't be made

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cuz notenuff data re irons & their magick#s

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0 reason to expect anymoar than the usual (i.e. 0) amt of cooperation from the hardware vendors.

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asciilifeform: this one i believe requires its own iron to replace what comes with the car

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could work if data re sensors, engine, etc. somehow determined.

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e.g. https://rusefi.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1646

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hardware section of their forum

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asciilifeform wonders just how broken/malicious was the factory-standard board, that this kinda thing seems necessary

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asciilifeform: could be just that they couldn't figure out a way to reflash the factory boards, so decided chuck the whole thing out

19:07

rright but what was the impetus for 'gotta reflash'

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botnet on wheels

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asciilifeform never once felt any desire to reflash his '03 jp tub

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and it has 0 'connectivity' and likes it that way

19:09

the '07 ford rustbucket also has none, and nuffin to reflash, by the looks of it, nor needs

19:09

i thought even '00 cars were "drive by wire"

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billymg: nope. at least asciilifeform not seen any such thing

19:10

100% trad. hydraulic

19:11

interesting, perhaps only started phasing it in then

19:12

asciilifeform: if your car did have built in "connectivity", would you be interested in swapping hardware to remove it?

19:12

i like the concept though, the idea of defritzing the enemy's wares. i imagine it'd make them upset too "hey! that wasn't included in the purchase price!"

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also, as more people start to realize this is a problem, the used / non-fritzed market will eventually dry up. only option will be to buy new and replace the chip

19:14

That's always amusing, billymg.

19:15

no bluetooth or other such shit in my '10 tundo either

19:15

I saw some dipshits on Hacker News discuss this about Apple. ``Didn't I pay enough to not also be the product?'' ``No, you got a discount. The real price for that would be higher, so deal with it.''

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http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-03-07#1083003 << problem is that such thing typically takes long enuff that the irons are long outta print by the time there's a usable pill

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Logged on 2022-03-07 14:12:27 billymg: i like the concept though, the idea of defritzing the enemy's wares. i imagine it'd make them upset too "hey! that wasn't included in the purchase price!"

19:16

It turns out there's always more money to be made, so more than enoughis never enough.

19:16

asciilifeform: which irons would be out of print?

19:17

verisimilitude: 'used' crapple market afaik long-dead, what with the epoxied pnojes with individually fritzchipped parts (i.e. can't interchange), the lappies with soldered-in ssds, etc

19:17

billymg: the auto, in the linked case

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asciilifeform: and they can't have their own made, like FG?

19:19

and run on standard arm chip

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billymg: hypothetically is possible to hand-weld an auto and have it permitted on streets, even in usa. asciilifeform in 25y+ seen precisely 1

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(and doubt that it had hand-made engine in it)

19:20

doesn't need all of this

19:20

just replace the chip

19:20

for so long as the rest of the thing is mechanical -- in principle yes

19:20

buy from toyota, brand new, replace chip

19:20

nao suppose 'drive by wire'(tm) and 'how the fuck do i even talk to the brake pedal' etc

19:21

i believe that's what this project already does (for very limited set of autos)

19:21

if not nao, then next yr, prolly even the headlight knob emits ciphered liquishit instead of 'on/off' contact

19:21

and fuel injection, etc.

19:21

y'know, like ipnoje power switch

19:22

this is indeed quite reminiscent of 'coreboot' -- where gives you 'linux bios' for boxen which had more or less clean vendor bios to begin with

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asciilifeform: that's a fair point, if people start replacing the ecu they'll start fritzing all the individual parts

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(and correspondingly, gives you ~0 for boxen which have thoroughly and brazenly infected vendor bios)

19:23

asciilifeform: no lol, they haven’t fought a peer adversary in a long time

19:23

billymg: parts catalogues already quite fulla 'encrypted switches' etc

19:23

remember when reapers were broadcasting unencrypted video?

19:23

What's a reaper?

19:23

drone

19:23

mats: lulzy if true, cuz even the saddest shitholes have direction-finding gear

19:24

(and over9000x more win from using it if you yerself dun shout on whole spectrum, on top of this)

19:24

ah, it was the predator drone, but at the time virtually all of them were shouting in the clear

19:25

https://www.wired.com/2012/10/hack-proof-drone

19:25

mats: this was actually more or less rational corner-cutting -- it wasn't as if the afghans had with what to shoot at it

19:29

I read about an experiment to use optical link from leo sats to direct reapers last year

19:31

if worx for subs, wainot for these

19:31

it aint as if 'reaper' needs to do aerobatic flips

19:32

afaik not dive-bombs either

19:32

flies moar or less horizontally until bombed & returns home.

~ 31 minutes ~

20:03

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-03-07#1083002 << likely for 20+y will remain possible to buy a clean one. if even live that long.

20:03

Logged on 2022-03-07 14:12:15 PeterL: asciilifeform: if your car did have built in "connectivity", would you be interested in swapping hardware to remove it?

20:04

plenty of '80s tubs still rolling along.

20:04

there's occasional noises from reich re banning'em, but that frog aint properly warm yet, much less boiled.

20:06

( and if this frog finally cooked at some pt, the cracked controller thing won't help )

20:06

Logged on 2022-02-02 11:30:15 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-02-02#1077761 << ancient/unfritzed autos will prolly be stopped/searched/taxed at checkpoints, eventually

20:08

hard to picture that checkpoints won't simply ask for 'magic #s' but for a plausible log of where the thing went that day, and cross check against plate readers etc

20:09

eventually wheeled vehicles will prolly be treated much as aircraft in reich are today -- if yer a 'ufo' (i.e. not broadcasting 'flight plan') gestapo dispatched and will be waiting nearby wherever you stop

20:11

... on public roads will be motorized spikes, pits, etc. and 'ooh so sorry that yer a smoking wreckage nao, it's yer own fault you insisted on driving a tub without remote engine kill switch'

20:12

occasional ambulance or schoolbus which ends up in these will be 'non-news' and blamed on ru 'terrorists', a la various malasian boeings

20:15

there's a terror management instinct here which prevents most people from imagining that machine us.mil perfected in iraq, afghanistan, syria, et al being used domestically.

20:15

foolish. it will.

~ 18 minutes ~

20:34

they’ve been flying reapers in us since 2019

20:36

and other types of drones used overseas flown for domestic missions, like firefighting to border security

20:39

for looong time nao

20:39

palantir’s support of immigration agencies missions has been in the news and a buncha their execs have gone on to do other border security things

20:39

yeah, the predator has been doing border missions for like 15y

20:39

and e.g.

20:39

Logged on 2022-02-24 13:05:26 asciilifeform: mats: hey afaik in nyc they still have not only 'ausweis, bitte' but xray vans to search parked autos. since mid-2010s.

20:40

yep, I know the hardware's deployed domestically.

20:41

dropping missiles on "domestic terrorists" not yet normalized.

20:41

dumb waste of money anyway

20:41

let food get more expensive, rednecks get more angry. it'll happen.

20:41

cheaper to mortar

20:42

sure, w/e's cheap. not specifying tactics

20:43

or nitro bombs via helo, like tulsa

~ 20 minutes ~

21:03

why drop 1e5 $ bombs on folx whom can kill simply by flipping a bit in a db for phree ?

21:06

usa folx are to be done in 'bloodlessly', a la '90s ru, with disease (incl. mcd & monsanto induced rot), impoverishment, despair, dope.

21:06

Logged on 2022-03-07 13:43:08 asciilifeform: ru demographic loss in '90s exceeded ww2 losses by solid margin. (and this not even counting the seceded territories)

21:07

lizards already succeeded in e.g. dropping breeding rate (if not counting helots) through the floor; again exactly like in '90s ru (where accounted for majority of the 'demographic pit')

21:08