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07:07 PeterL billymg: as far as I can tell, the pronoun thing has all been cis people. It seems silly with a familiar name like "Karen (she/her)", but it is sometimes mildly helpful for foreign names, like "Xiaofei (he/him)" or whatever
07:10 PeterL There have been a couple times I have interacted with someone for a while through email, and then the first time I talk to them on the phone I say in my head "Ohhh, Chau is a girl!"
07:13 PeterL I don't know if this is the same everwhere, but at my kids high school it seems like more than half of the kids are "trans", "non-binary", or "asexual", and half of the others are some flavor of gay/bi
07:16 PeterL like, they have a set of friends that are "trans boy" and "trans girl" that are dating, isn't that just a straight couple? Or the two "trans boys" who are dating, why isn't that just a pair of butch lesbians?
07:17 awt !!ticker btc usd
07:17 deedbot $19779.21
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08:42 billymg http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-03-10#1024434 << is "cis" that term they came up with to simply mean "not mentally ill"?
08:42 bitbot Logged on 2023-03-10 07:07:20 PeterL: billymg: as far as I can tell, the pronoun thing has all been cis people. It seems silly with a familiar name like "Karen (she/her)", but it is sometimes mildly helpful for foreign names, like "Xiaofei (he/him)" or whatever
08:45 PeterL "cis" is "not trans", kind of like in chemistry we have cis and trans double bonds, I guess it is whether your identification is on the same or opposite gender compared to your biological gender (don't ask me why that is a thing, it doesn't make sense to me either)
08:48 PeterL the pink-haired types think people like me (you know, cis white males) are the actual devil, since we are the ones benefitting from the patriarchy that is opressing all the minorities (like women, or "people of color")
08:52 billymg PeterL: right, like i said, cis is the label for the thing that doesn't need a label
08:52 billymg these people use language as a weapon
08:54 billymg http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-03-10#1024435 << this to me does not seem like a problem that needs solving, and i don't buy that that's why people started adding (he/him) to their handles/sigs. it's purely political, like spelling it kyiv instead of kiev
08:54 bitbot Logged on 2023-03-10 07:10:06 PeterL: There have been a couple times I have interacted with someone for a while through email, and then the first time I talk to them on the phone I say in my head "Ohhh, Chau is a girl!"
08:55 billymg http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-03-10#1024436 << gee, i wonder why
08:55 bitbot Logged on 2023-03-10 07:13:57 PeterL: I don't know if this is the same everwhere, but at my kids high school it seems like more than half of the kids are "trans", "non-binary", or "asexual", and half of the others are some flavor of gay/bi
08:58 billymg http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-03-10#1024435 << also, how did you know Chau was a girl? did you ask them? or did you gender them by their voice, you bigot
08:58 bitbot Logged on 2023-03-10 07:10:06 PeterL: There have been a couple times I have interacted with someone for a while through email, and then the first time I talk to them on the phone I say in my head "Ohhh, Chau is a girl!"
09:06 awt SVB stock halted after premarket selloff
09:10 PeterL billymg: yeah, I gender people by voice when I talk to them, I admit I am a bigot
09:10 billymg http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2023-03-09#1114714 << fucking kek, "we have the money, unless you want to see the money"
09:10 dulapbot (asciilifeform) 2023-03-09 asciilifeform: '...CEO Greg Becker told clients that said the bank has “ample liquidity” to support its clients “with one exception: If everybody is telling each other that SVB is in trouble, that will be a challenge.” ' lolgox
09:13 awt "no really, we could've raised interest rates any time we wanted"
09:16 PeterL If we all pretend hard enough, there is no reason to admit we have nothing
09:16 billymg i noticed yesterday there was a new wave of headlines along the lines of "biden coming for crypto" "30% tax on bitcoin mining" "40% tax on capital gains" -- makes me think they plan to turn the printers back on
09:16 awt billymg: When I click this link, it just loads logs.bitdash.io: http://logs.bitdash.io/ilog/asciilifeform/1114714
09:19 billymg awt: yeah, i need to fix that. it's because around the beginning of this year i stopped running bitbot in #a
09:20 awt billymg: ah ok
09:22 billymg i should maybe just do a nightly import script and eat from logs.nosuchlabs.com/log-raw
09:26 billymg the reason i haven't backfilled yet is because our loggers fell out of sync last november where dulapbot missed some lines that bitbot captured
09:26 bitbot Logged on 2022-11-29 12:18:27 billymg: asciilifeform: interesting, when i tried to import the missing lines from your logger's raw endpoint i got a complaint about duplicate lines. then i noticed our indices were out of sync, but with bitdash being ahead rather than behind. walking back manually led me to http://logs.bitdash.io/asciilifeform/2022-11-09, which i
09:27 billymg but i could just delete these 11 lines from vex and import the rest from logs.nosuchlabs.com
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12:33 awt And.. it's gone.
12:39 awt I believe with SVB you had to be an accredited investor to evn open an account.
12:40 asciilifeform awt: asciilifeform saw the phrase for many yrs, finally looked it up, discovered to great lulz that he (and damn near most steadily employed 'mahogany bomber pilots') in fact are 'accredited investors'(tm)
12:41 asciilifeform somehow assumed the bureaucratism referred to actual rockefellers, or at least licensed stock brokers
12:42 asciilifeform but nope.
12:43 awt asciilifeform: Something like 1m in assets excluding your residence.
12:44 asciilifeform awt: apparently, that ~or~ 200k+ usd / yr
12:47 asciilifeform subj.
12:47 awt FYI for anyone in here who might be affected: "Customers with accounts in excess of $250,000 should contact the FDIC toll-free at 1-866-799-0959"
12:48 awt Toll-free.
12:48 signpost SVB gettin dead eh?
12:48 awt yep
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13:06 signpost whelp, hope this BTC thing works out, because the company store credits aren't looking too good!
13:09 awt I am assured by "macro" people on BT that only banks with many clients concentrated in certain "industries" are affected.
13:09 signpost lol
13:17 PeterL recently there have been a bunch of tech firms laying off staff, is this just the next of the dominos to start falling?
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13:42 awt PeterL: I don't know how much the US economy depends on tech employment. Always blamed for higher rents but then when there are tech layoffs it's always "oh that's just a tiny part of the economy"
13:45 signpost the feedback loop is layoffs kill spending, kills revenue, causes layoffs...
13:45 signpost and alongside this businesses relying on cheap financing imploding
13:46 signpost looks like it's financial crisis time, '08, '00, '87, etc
13:48 PeterL I think it is interesting that so many companies in that sector are laying people off at the same time, are they really all so closely coupled?
13:48 asciilifeform http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-03-10#1024474 << lol, wat happens when you call ? ( recorded voice: 'sfyl!' ? )
13:48 bitbot Logged on 2023-03-10 12:47:58 awt: FYI for anyone in here who might be affected: "Customers with accounts in excess of $250,000 should contact the FDIC toll-free at 1-866-799-0959"
13:49 asciilifeform http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-03-10#1024481 << recall, mass purge was an explicit goal of recent usg 'inflation control'
13:49 bitbot Logged on 2023-03-10 13:17:49 PeterL: recently there have been a bunch of tech firms laying off staff, is this just the next of the dominos to start falling?
13:50 asciilifeform ( i.e. move dough from 'spenders' (humans) to toxic waste sequestering mechanisms ('stonks' etc) )
13:50 PeterL so less people working, not earning salary, will no longer spend money to push up inflation?
13:51 asciilifeform was the party line, yes
13:53 asciilifeform ( see also . )
13:53 dulapbot (asciilifeform) 2022-03-07 asciilifeform: oblig. su joak: 'father: vodka's gone up, son. son: father, does that mean you will drink less now? father: no, son, it means that now you will eat less!'
13:53 signpost the real answer is they crush the economy every ~decade with low interest rates, then high interest rates.
13:53 signpost because there's not more earth, only way to become wealthier is to absorb more of the limited pie
13:55 PeterL low interest rate crushes savers, encourages people to take on debt; then high interest rate crushes the people with debt; rinse and repeat
13:55 asciilifeform signpost: effect of periodic engineered rupture of the 'moolah pipe' (e.g. 2008). humans inevitably collect some of the runoff, which lizards then collect back.
13:55 signpost dingding
13:56 signpost look how dependent even the supposed savior of hard money (BTC) became on ZIRP
13:56 signpost asciilifeform's drop from helicopter
13:57 asciilifeform PeterL: savers (i.e. folx who refrain from consuming errything they theoretically could) are the 'christmas pig' livestock from erry reich's pov, historically
13:58 asciilifeform signpost: at this pt suspect that very few folx have any truck with actual (i.e. 'hard') btc. similar to au.
13:58 signpost and meanwhile those that do, all gateways from it to food are controlled by the reich
13:58 asciilifeform noshit
13:59 asciilifeform precisely same as 'hardware au' (picture trying to buy with it)
14:02 asciilifeform savers get 'choice' of whether to sit & watch while printing press eats their pile via inflation, or to 'invest' (in scams, given as there's 0 else to invest in). either way -- 'saving doesn't work'(tm)
14:03 asciilifeform ( see also . )
14:03 dulapbot (trilema) 2016-04-01 asciilifeform: because the ONLY THING no one can ever take from you is the icecream you ATE YESTERDAY
14:04 signpost good model of how corrupt regimes corrupt all there. you're either poor or you're hustling along as part of the scam.
14:04 signpost and how politics preceed economics, much to the dismay of bitcoiners
14:11 asciilifeform and it aint as if the waterfall is new -- operating for decade+
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20:26 awt LOL Blockfi (earn yield on your corn) which was already in bankruptcy had 227m in SVB
20:27 awt Roku had 487m.
20:33 awt "30% of YC companies can't make payroll in the next 30 days." lolol
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21:05 awt !!ticker btc usd
21:05 deedbot $20,573
21:06 awt Damn $200 spread between deedbot and whaterver apple stocks uses.
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21:39 asciilifeform awt: canhaz source for the '30 days' thing ?
21:40 asciilifeform ( sounds delish )
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22:06 awt asciilifeform: https://twitter.com/garrytan/status/1634286688922132481 - ah - "30% of YC companies exposed through SVB"
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