Show Idle (>14 d.) Chans
← 2014-03-07 | 2014-03-09 → ↓
00:10 MisterE wtf? http://i.imgur.com/OpxXdbb.jpg
00:16 KRS-One fags have too much time on their hands.
00:16 KRS-One .bait
00:16 ozbot http://31.media.tumblr.com/7e6d1b0b909330c26647b45485d892b3/tumblr_mv85k7k0ni1r21xm5o1_500.jpg
00:21 KRS-One wow..well..she needs a bit more titteh
00:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10250 @ 0.00087593 = 8.9783 BTC [+] {2}
00:33 MisterE KRS-One: no doubt
00:34 MisterE I just got baked and sucked into the btce trollbox for an hour
00:34 MisterE kinda fun
00:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.04425 = 0.1328 BTC [+]
00:47 chetty_ http://www.ihavebitcoins.com/featured/massive-btc-movements-send-tremors-though-bitcoin-community/
00:47 ozbot Massive BTC Movements Send Tremors Though the Bitcoin Community - I Have Bitcoins
00:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 42 @ 0.005995 = 0.2518 BTC [-]
00:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.602505 BTC [-]
00:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00087705 = 8.1566 BTC [+]
01:01 MisterE Vietnamese Navy says they have the crash at sea on radar. http://my.news.yahoo.com/mas-aircraft-goes-missing--says-airline-023820132.html
01:02 pigeons watched a whole movie with him and still am not quite sure i believe this "paul rudd" guy is not ben affleck
01:03 Luke-Jr who is two bit idiot, and why does he want Roger Ver running the Bitcoin Foundation? :/
01:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5850 @ 0.00087705 = 5.1307 BTC [+]
01:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10450 @ 0.00087008 = 9.0923 BTC [-]
01:10 dignork Luke-Jr, two bit idiot is the dude who leaked mgox pdf
01:19 Luke-Jr I know that
01:19 ThickAsThieves I thought 2bitidiot is Ver?
01:19 KRS-One funny
01:19 Luke-Jr ThickAsThieves: that would certainly make sense then!
01:19 ThickAsThieves or at least Ver is two-bit idiot
01:23 cryptotrading http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQTM8NkbIVw
01:23 ozbot Mt Gox Explained Andrew Ittleman, Andreas M Antonopoulos Ryan Selkis - YouTube
01:23 dexX7_ https://twitter.com/RyanSelkis < this is 2 idiot
01:23 ozbot Ryan Selkis (RyanSelkis) on Twitter
01:32 greenut btw Roger Vee.... not good thing.
01:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 20 @ 0.04398779 = 0.8798 BTC [-] {3}
01:49 chetty_ http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/03/06/bitcoin_exchange_bleeds_money_after_hack_attack/
~ 28 minutes ~
02:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11283 @ 0.00086981 = 9.8141 BTC [-]
02:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.08032883 = 1.2853 BTC [-] {7}
~ 18 minutes ~
02:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 100 @ 0.00563 = 0.563 BTC [-]
02:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 81 @ 0.00562105 = 0.4553 BTC [-]
02:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.NSA] 20000 @ 0.000115 = 2.3 BTC [-] {2}
02:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 20 @ 0.04449905 = 0.89 BTC [-] {2}
03:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4492 @ 0.00086981 = 3.9072 BTC [-]
03:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.BBET] 2000 @ 0.0005 = 1 BTC [-]
03:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.NSA] 9844 @ 0.000105 = 1.0336 BTC [-]
03:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00087438 = 1.7488 BTC [+]
03:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MG] 1408 @ 0.000154 = 0.2168 BTC [+]
03:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9525 @ 0.00087524 = 8.3367 BTC [+] {2}
03:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.6025 = 1.205 BTC [-] {2}
03:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2850 @ 0.00087695 = 2.4993 BTC [+] {2}
~ 16 minutes ~
03:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.08590962 = 0.1718 BTC [-] {2}
03:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 62 @ 0.07562202 = 4.6886 BTC [-] {8}
03:58 benkay i chuckled: http://imgur.com/5u5cg6r
04:04 MisterE http://thoughtcrook.wordpress.com/2014/03/07/dear-mainstream-media-rtfm/
04:04 ozbot Dear Newsweek: RTFM | Makeshift Kiosk
04:08 benkay i gather we're in the backlash phase of this mainstream hype cycle
04:09 benkay there's no price signal, so everyone's reduced to gibbering like animals about satoshi
04:09 benkay errybody wanna bitcoin, so long as it's easily obtained from government-approved taps
04:11 chetty_ gubermint approved - oh noes, ruuuuuunnnnn
04:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0749992 = 0.15 BTC [-]
04:25 mircea_popescu dexX7_ so basically, the guy ran a google search
04:25 mircea_popescu how long did he have to produce the bit ?
04:26 mircea_popescu fatcock ?
04:26 mircea_popescu that's a new one.
04:28 fatcock yep
04:29 mircea_popescu a wait you're the selkis dude ?
04:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 135000 @ 0.00086827 = 117.2165 BTC [-] {7}
04:30 fatcock never heard of him
04:30 mircea_popescu aok
04:34 mircea_popescu asciilifeform wanna bet that thing's in korea ?
04:34 KRS-One .bait
04:34 ozbot http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwej0olll91r254aoo1_1280.jpg
04:34 mircea_popescu (the best korea there is, of course)
04:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.07172951 = 0.4304 BTC [-] {5}
04:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63875 @ 0.00080768 = 51.5906 BTC [-] {8}
04:41 mircea_popescu Luke-Jr: who is two bit idiot, and why does he want Roger Ver running the Bitcoin Foundation? :/ << take a guess
04:41 mircea_popescu or http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-03-2014#543697 i guess, at your option.
04:45 mircea_popescu MisterE is that your blog ? /thoughtcrook ?
04:46 MisterE no
04:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2030 @ 0.00403232 = 8.1856 BTC [-] {10}
04:50 mircea_popescu http://www.scmp.com/news/china-insider/article/1443498/us-language-tutor-jailed-30-years-sexually-exploiting-children
04:50 ozbot US language tutor jailed for 30 years for sexually exploiting children in China | South China Mornin
04:50 mircea_popescu the chinese educational dilemma : to hire or not to hire us citizens ?
04:51 mircea_popescu on one hand, they're all pedos. on the other hand, if you catch them you can deport them for a massive fat sentence.
04:51 mircea_popescu what would one have, unmolested children or severely punished child molested ?
04:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.04292874 = 0.3005 BTC [-] {5}
04:57 MisterE PatrickHarnett being sued?
05:00 mircea_popescu people been making noises, but not actually afaik.
05:02 MisterE http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news%2Fbizarre&id=9458272
05:02 ozbot Oklahoma man chasing $20 gets lost in sewer system for two days | abc13.com
05:04 mircea_popescu https://www.aclu.org/national-security/woman-detained-airport-files-suit
05:04 ozbot Woman Detained at Airport Files Suit | American Civil Liberties Union
05:04 mircea_popescu aclu huh ? is o'bammy losing the commie support ?
~ 32 minutes ~
05:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 150 @ 0.0056025 = 0.8404 BTC [-] {2}
~ 46 minutes ~
06:23 dexX7_ why is it a thing what the foundation does or not does? i don't think they are in duty and they seem to do a lot of lobby work which i think is a good thing
~ 36 minutes ~
07:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00400003 = 0.4 BTC [-] {6}
~ 26 minutes ~
07:26 mircea_popescu aite, be back a little later.
07:26 mircea_popescu don't find satoshi while i'm gone yo!
07:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 146 @ 0.00560165 = 0.8178 BTC [-] {3}
~ 53 minutes ~
08:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 686 @ 0.00017944 = 0.1231 BTC [-] {4}
08:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11892 @ 0.0008337 = 9.9144 BTC [+]
08:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 40 @ 0.0056 = 0.224 BTC [-]
~ 35 minutes ~
09:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 498 @ 0.00400077 = 1.9924 BTC [-] {8}
09:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6650 @ 0.00082976 = 5.5179 BTC [-]
09:35 ThickAsThieves https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=333851.msg5486409;topicseen#new Dr Greg loses some investor money cuz icbit/gox
09:35 ozbot [Direct] BTC Growth - Forex Volatility Focus
09:35 ThickAsThieves or maybe he just needed some new shoes
09:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 36 @ 0.07304161 = 2.6295 BTC [-] {2}
09:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2371 @ 0.003745 = 8.8794 BTC [-] {23}
09:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1629 @ 0.0036 = 5.8644 BTC [-]
09:48 asciilifeform http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/missing-malaysian-airlines-flight-mh370-3220170
09:48 ozbot Missing Malaysian Airlines flight MH370: Passenger on board missing Jet carrying 239 people 'was usi
09:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.07439999 = 0.8184 BTC [+] {2}
09:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0721 = 0.721 BTC [-] {2}
10:07 mircea_popescu asciilifeform so is it in korea ? :D
10:07 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves well at least he didn't lose it on the scientology of bitcoin
10:07 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: damned if i know - i didn't meacon it
10:08 mircea_popescu would be funny if it turns out this is how the greatest leader that ever was picks up nowadays
10:08 mircea_popescu by the planefull.
10:09 asciilifeform seems unlikely that NK would steal a box full of chinese
10:10 mircea_popescu lmao
10:10 mircea_popescu indeed, but it's fucking comedy gold
10:11 asciilifeform dollars to doughnuts, the fish ate well that day.
10:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 23 @ 0.0056 = 0.1288 BTC [-] {2}
10:11 mircea_popescu yeah, pretty much the safe bet.
10:12 asciilifeform linked 'mirror' piece claims a fellow with a nicked passport aboard.
10:13 asciilifeform incidentally, not much has been spoken in public about the remote control mandatory on u.s.-made aircraft built since '9/11'
10:14 asciilifeform (all the fat 'flying bus' machines are fly-by-wire, it's a mere firmware patch)
10:14 mircea_popescu well... notrly wire.
10:15 mircea_popescu but anyway, this notion that you can (or should) fly commercial from the cockpit is nonsense in the first place, and was on the out since at least the 60s
10:15 mircea_popescu graveyard spiral et all.
10:16 asciilifeform forget airplanes, they put drivers back (!) on the wash. d.c. metro trains.
10:16 asciilifeform 'by popular demand'
10:16 mircea_popescu lol to do what
10:16 asciilifeform herd isn't ready to be herded by loudspeaker yet
10:16 asciilifeform they... open and close doors, mostly.
10:16 mircea_popescu so what is the driver doing ?
10:17 mircea_popescu lmao
10:22 mircea_popescu http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8e/Guam2.ogv
10:22 mircea_popescu this is some pretty epic shit btw
10:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 23 @ 0.59788693 = 13.7514 BTC [-] {9}
10:26 mircea_popescu lucky the ukraine thing didn't happen in winter btw, or else it'd have been quite literal cold war.
10:27 asciilifeform just as the ancients like to schedule planned wars in the warm season...
10:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07439999 = 0.372 BTC [+]
10:34 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/razlet-thought-on-the-topic-of-size-and-fitting/
10:34 ozbot Razlet thought on the topic of size and fitting pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
10:38 ThickAsThieves aka - mp had sex with a midget
10:38 mircea_popescu lol
10:38 ThickAsThieves you kinda make a pretty big leap from razlet to dog sizes
10:39 mircea_popescu kinda the nature of the beast
10:39 mircea_popescu i mean, word.
10:53 mircea_popescu http://www.activistpost.com/2014/03/8-events-that-prove-your-money-is-not.html
10:53 ozbot Activist Post: 8 Events That Prove Your Money Is Not Safe In Europe, Or Anywhere
10:53 mircea_popescu for the choir.
10:56 bitcoinpete do-re-mi-fa-so-la-ti-do-allo
10:57 ThickAsThieves so if EU is shit, US is shit, where to go?
10:58 bitcoinpete any thoughts here on jeff berwick?
10:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 41 @ 0.00397924 = 0.1631 BTC [-]
10:58 ThickAsThieves btw designers already can't handle different sized humans. I'm only 6'2" and can't fit properly into most cars
10:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 80 @ 0.00397924 = 0.3183 BTC [-] {2}
11:01 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves la serenissima.
11:02 mircea_popescu bitcoinpete hes the guy with the galt gulch project neh ?
11:02 * nubbins` shakes head
11:02 mircea_popescu i'd guess the reaction is kinda lukewarm
11:02 nubbins` there was a post on the forums last year about some guy making "bitcoin town"
11:03 nubbins` he waited til around the tenth paragraph before he mentioned the forced ingestion of nootropics
11:03 mircea_popescu what are those ?
11:04 bitcoinpete mircea_popescu Ya, that's him alright. Also from my hometown incidentally.
11:04 bitcoinpete Brain drugs, iirc
11:05 nubbins` ^
11:05 nubbins` new thread, less cruft before you get to the meat: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=224478.0
11:05 mircea_popescu why not just use the brain ?
11:05 bitcoinpete it's expensive to do so
11:05 nubbins` "Bitcoin town will work to protect, promote & repair the mental health of any willing citizens ... And we will work to be at the forefront of Neurogenesis and Synaptogenesis research."
11:06 mircea_popescu aww, no qc ?
11:06 mircea_popescu sucks.
11:06 nubbins` next thing he's talking about datura and sweat lodges
11:06 mircea_popescu it could have been right out of Master of Orion, this research
11:06 asciilifeform powered by Amazing Phree Energy Overunity Drive!
11:07 balls
11:07 nubbins` WHERE?!
11:07 ThickAsThieves is la serenissima a fancy way of saying world's smallest violin?
11:08 nubbins`, I know of a couple but you can't have them.
11:08 nubbins` heh
11:09 mircea_popescu http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z314/Xenogears_of_Bore/orion_113.png
11:09 So I read through the pirate docs...
11:09 why didn't anyone tell me that I got fully repaid?
11:09 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves http://trilema.com/2014/the-most-serene-republic-and-its-laws/
11:09 to think this whole time I got screwed
11:09 mircea_popescu it's this mystical re-enactment of the venetian republic.
11:09 mircea_popescu [\\\] people wanted you to have a nice surprise on mother's day.
11:09 mircea_popescu so there you go.
11:10 but I'm not a mother
11:10 mircea_popescu so you think.
11:10 mircea_popescu SURPRISE
11:11 hot damn
11:13 mircea_popescu wait, how the fuck is us mother's day on may 11th ?
11:13 mircea_popescu that'
11:13 mircea_popescu s dynasty day
11:13 mircea_popescu real mother's day is march 8th
11:15 peterl depends on where you live?
11:15 mircea_popescu heresy
11:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.04399999 = 0.176 BTC [+] {2}
11:16 is there anywhere but the USA?
11:19 peterl I've only been places in the USA, so the rest of the world must not exist!
11:19 peterl wait, no, I've been to Canada, but that's just about the same thing
11:19 mircea_popescu that's how they came up with rome wisconsin
11:20 mircea_popescu and also what put the new in new york
11:21 peterl Which is bigger, York or New York?
11:22 mircea_popescu york lol
11:22 mircea_popescu ot
11:23 mircea_popescu it's like 10k sqkm or some shit
11:23 mircea_popescu largest county in england
11:25 mircea_popescu "There are thousands of acres of in BC Canada that are owned by the Queen of England....If we squat there drill some wells and plant some trees. Do you really think the Queen is going to bring us an eviction notice or force us off the land with military force?"
11:25 mircea_popescu umm.... yes ?
11:25 mircea_popescu that thread on the neoweirdos delivers.
11:26 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=224478.msg2385486#msg2385486
11:27 ozbot Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town
11:27 mircea_popescu that's the clincher
11:28 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: reminiscent of this famous crackpot gem: http://www.iiicitadel.com
11:28 mircea_popescu The Citadel is evolving as a planned community where residents are bound together by:
11:28 mircea_popescu Patriotism
11:28 mircea_popescu Pride in American Exceptionalism
11:28 mircea_popescu what srsly ?
11:29 mircea_popescu someone somewhere actually believes that *us people* are anything but exceptionally stupid nao ?!
11:29 mircea_popescu i guess the very essex-looking walltower kinda makes the point better than 10k words
11:29 asciilifeform clip art.
11:30 mircea_popescu "i am proud of these unrelated people's feudal architecture!"
11:30 asciilifeform afaik there's no tower, just a dirtbag with a sack of $
11:30 asciilifeform from chumpers
11:30 mircea_popescu HOUSING DETAILS: All homes will be built of poured concrete for exceptional strength and durability.
11:30 mircea_popescu god help me
11:30 mircea_popescu "live in a premodern jail!"
11:31 mircea_popescu "Your home will be built to your specs (details available at this website) with utilities stubbed to the interior. You select the facade for the exterior of your home. You are responsible for completing the interior of your home as you wish. You may choose to do the work yourself, or hire contractors. But every single detail, from paint to tiles to counters, is your choice."
11:31 mircea_popescu how about my choice of not living in a carved up rock ?
11:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 20 @ 0.0445999 = 0.892 BTC [+] {8}
11:32 asciilifeform as far as i could tell, the thing is/was some combo of a usg honeypot and straight 'jam tomorrow, not today' chumpatron.
11:32 mircea_popescu anyway, for the record, the same exact situation is the case in romania
11:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.07439998 = 0.2976 BTC [-]
11:33 mircea_popescu except you also get the choice to make a brick-in-concrete pillars with poured concrete foundation and wood roofing house,
11:33 mircea_popescu like sane people.
11:34 mircea_popescu and you can even use microcellular concrete or w/e you call it in english
11:34 asciilifeform best part:
11:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07439998 = 0.372 BTC [-] {2}
11:34 asciilifeform 'The Citadel is not designed to withstand any direct .Mil or .Gov attack. Nor is the Citadel, in any manner, attempting to provoke any government entity.'
11:34 mircea_popescu "we just called it the citadel because the outhouse was taken
11:35 mircea_popescu anyway, how would one design buildings to "withstand" direct military attacks ? use an abandoned salt mine or something ?
11:35 chetty_ hey lets round ourselves up, save them moving us to the reservation (brave new world)
11:35 asciilifeform this particular crock of shit isn't even an especially convincing one - just illustrative of the concept.
11:36 mircea_popescu "all rooves are poured rebared concrete 10 meter thick"
11:36 mircea_popescu "and if they make bigger bunker busters, we'll just pour more concrete"
11:38 asciilifeform mice do so love cheese. but, afaik, this particular trap remains empty. paper chumpatron.
11:40 mircea_popescu "We actually hope to make a local restaurant and turn it into a national franchise"
11:40 mircea_popescu o hey, we'll be just like the amish, except suckier and without tradition
11:41 mircea_popescu "we need to go to each church and offer them contracts to not be churches any more"
11:41 mircea_popescu oh this shit is so great.
11:41 asciilifeform wait what. last i checked, the only planned industry was small arms.
11:41 mircea_popescu thank you people finding me great shit to read!
11:41 mircea_popescu asciilifeform im still digesting the earlier forum thing
11:41 asciilifeform aha
11:41 mircea_popescu "it's illegal to manufacture guns"
11:42 mircea_popescu these are roughly the ows demo
11:42 mircea_popescu "You have to work if you want a share of communal food"
11:42 mircea_popescu "hey, can i be a stripper ?"
11:42 asciilifeform wouldn't it be neat to somehow throw these folks into the same pit ?
11:42 asciilifeform ows vs. citadel 'in a cage'
11:43 mircea_popescu they wouldn't fight
11:43 mircea_popescu because, obviously, they're above it
11:44 mircea_popescu what they'd do is what they currently do in the shitty pits they inhabit (starbucks et atll)
11:44 mircea_popescu give each other looks and mash the phone kbds
11:48 thanks for the lol
11:48 you should start charging for invites to this channel
11:49 mircea_popescu eh, let there be communism of lol.
11:49 mircea_popescu to each according to his lolpacity.
11:54 KRS-One teh lolpacity of the fapacity...let there be fap.
11:54 KRS-One .bait
11:54 ozbot http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6npeuuTNh1rrcfz6o1_1280.jpg
11:56 mircea_popescu why does your fapstuff suck so ?
11:56 mircea_popescu here : http://31.media.tumblr.com/aa28daf7909e253da62b698548678cd8/tumblr_mzceju0MAX1s9ip0zo1_1280.jpg
11:57 mircea_popescu and http://25.media.tumblr.com/4ebda24364f060f2f1c5ff1306e2d02f/tumblr_mzfqpuDIeu1ro88meo1_1280.jpg
11:57 mircea_popescu and http://31.media.tumblr.com/326e50ab860e91ce34bca0af66564d5b/tumblr_mzd9xpjAmS1rwpxplo1_500.jpg
11:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 80 @ 0.045 = 3.6 BTC [+]
11:58 KRS-One idk =/
11:58 KRS-One I try really hard.
11:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 42 @ 0.13311598 = 5.5909 BTC [-]
11:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.37038703 BTC to 3`597 shares, 65899 satoshi per share
11:59 KRS-One Heh that first bitch looks fun..And free.
12:01 mircea_popescu good women usually do.
12:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] [PAID] 2.67652000 BTC to 86`900 shares, 3080 satoshi per share
12:01 KRS-One That guy who has her in bonds totally reminds me of a friend of mine who would do that.
12:01 mircea_popescu http://www.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/plugins/copyrightWrapper/watermark.php?display=true&image=http://bp.uuuploads.com/worst-book-covers-titles/worst-book-covers-titles-7.jpg
12:02 KRS-One I think its Ozbot..not me.
12:02 KRS-One Trust me, k..I can fap.
12:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 18 @ 0.00599648 = 0.1079 BTC [+]
12:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00082909 = 9.6589 BTC [-]
12:04 KRS-One Ok ozbot..no fucking around. Gimme a good one.
12:04 * KRS-One tweaks ozbot.
12:04 KRS-One .bait
12:04 ozbot http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7bd8jmsWj1ru145yo1_500.jpg
12:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 140 @ 0.00397924 = 0.5571 BTC [-] {4}
12:18 KRS-One HAH Shrem and Karpelese coindesk 'coined' bromance.
12:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00082905 = 7.7931 BTC [-] {2}
12:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00397925 = 0.199 BTC [+]
12:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18261 @ 0.00083115 = 15.1776 BTC [+] {2}
12:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 22 @ 0.00579995 = 0.1276 BTC [+]
~ 18 minutes ~
12:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00578628 = 0.2893 BTC [-] {7}
12:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59001 BTC [-]
12:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.0057801 = 0.1734 BTC [-] {5}
13:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07449822 = 0.2235 BTC [+]
13:12 the20year2 is mpoe t he best btc:usd short?
13:13 mircea_popescu why not something like x.eur ?
13:13 mircea_popescu you can add a eur/usd leg or w/e
13:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 120 @ 0.00397457 = 0.4769 BTC [-] {3}
~ 28 minutes ~
13:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 25 @ 0.00419982 = 0.105 BTC [+] {4}
13:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.02289999 = 0.229 BTC [-] {2}
13:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 5 @ 0.10699957 = 0.535 BTC [-] {3}
~ 15 minutes ~
14:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.04549999 = 0.2275 BTC [+] {4}
14:09 bitcoinpete Wondering if I should be trusting bitaddress.org… Anyone else use it?
14:10 mircea_popescu js mouse based "entropy" ? tis shitty.
14:11 asciilifeform hahaha
14:11 mircea_popescu i mean fun project, but shitty.
14:11 asciilifeform bonus points for using a radio mouse.
14:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 28 @ 0.00400003 = 0.112 BTC [-] {3}
14:12 bitcoinpete hmm even on offline comp eh?
14:12 mircea_popescu asciilifeform it conveniently dots the screen, so no need for radio mouse
14:12 mircea_popescu bitcoinpete just generate entropy the traditional way.
14:12 bitcoinpete dictionary…?
14:12 mircea_popescu gimmicks are fun for a computing project in computer class,
14:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 32 @ 0.004 = 0.128 BTC [-] {3}
14:12 mircea_popescu if the worst comes to worse, http://trilema.com/2012/romanian-dicelist/
14:13 bitcoinpete ty
14:13 bitcoinpete It's time to start playing grown-up
14:14 bitcoinpete for me
14:14 mircea_popescu cool.
14:15 bitcoinpete lots of good reading on thelastpsychiatrist btw. keepin' me busy
14:16 mircea_popescu yeah i love him.
14:21 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/when-did-the-2007-banking-crisis-start-how-about-1985/
14:21 ozbot When did the 2007 banking crisis start ? How about 1985. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
14:22 bitcoinpete on a writing roll today!
14:23 mircea_popescu crazy so far.
14:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.58200002 BTC [-]
14:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07667742 = 0.23 BTC [+] {3}
14:29 moiety mew
14:30 moiety asciilifeform asciilifeform I've come to terms with the giant manul not actually being giant (how did i not see that?!) .. decided we need to find someone proficient in GM to make it happen though
14:31 mircea_popescu genetic modification ?
14:31 asciilifeform moiety: once read a curious work on feline hybrids
14:31 moiety yep
14:31 moiety i know some have human blood today
14:31 asciilifeform moiety: which suggested that, technically, there might only be a few distinct species of cat, in the sense of 'able to cross-breed'
14:32 asciilifeform moiety: virtually all of the 'felis' genus has been cross-bred, across the board, and likewise 'panthera'
14:32 mircea_popescu Here's something to quote at the Dr. Gregs of Bitcoin finance : "Inevitably, of course, business errors will occur and the wise manager will try to find the proper lessons in them. But the trick is to learn most lessons from the experiences of others. Managers who have learned much from personal experience in the past usually are destined to learn much from personal experience in the future."
14:33 moiety even manul had to have been cross bred at some point
14:36 moiety mircea_popescu: i thought this was real http://i.imgur.com/kvzzZn9.png it needs to be. In fact, it should replace your horse
14:36 asciilifeform moiety: the original version of that had a caption: 'do you still want to dodge the [russian] draft?'
14:36 mircea_popescu i only ride cats that shave.
14:37 moiety LOLOL imagine how much more confy this one would be
14:37 moiety comfy*
14:38 moiety one more derp and i shall leave you in peace... can i ask a laser derp asciilifeform ?
14:38 asciilifeform moiety: http://www.fotomage.com/giant-hybrid-cats
14:38 asciilifeform moiety: sure
14:39 moiety ligers are interesting, they can't breed i was under the impression
14:40 moiety ok lasers, i aw a purple laser for the first time (side note of epic btw) and the site said, "comes into its own during a lunar eclipse." is there something actually in that because its purple or is that just a gimmick?
14:41 bitcoinpete mircea_popescu: the banking crisis piece is on the talebian money. history doesn't repeat itself but it does rhyme. house=louse
14:41 asciilifeform moiety: lasers used for circus purposes (draw picture in the air via persistence of vision) rely on 'rayleigh scattering'
14:41 asciilifeform that is, the fact that air is not perfectly transparent
14:42 moiety so just any laser is going to look better during an eclipse?
14:42 asciilifeform yes
14:42 moiety kk
14:42 mircea_popescu bitcoinpete i will take the other end of that view : it's unfair to make the blind the designated drivers of your bar hopping party
14:42 asciilifeform especially ones of non-'ideal' colours
14:42 moiety i still want one
14:42 asciilifeform (that is, far from green)
14:42 mircea_popescu it is equally unfair, and quite callous, to sign up for mortgages idiots whi ocan't afford them
14:43 bitcoinpete or to tell them that they aren't men/adults/people w/o a mortgage
14:43 mircea_popescu and so on.
14:43 moiety thank you asciilifeform!
14:44 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: http://core.kmi.open.ac.uk/display/199266
14:44 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: 'The answer lies in the sewers'
14:44 bitcoinpete 400 million people weren't brought to North America for their shrewdness, just their escapism
14:44 asciilifeform tldr version: there is a multitude of idiots. they have to be housed somewhere. or, they can be allowed to live in their own filth, like capt. aguilera suggested.
14:44 asciilifeform but this too has costs.
14:45 mircea_popescu they were housed somewhere at the time the clinton binge begun
14:45 asciilifeform there were somewhat fewer of them. and more wealthy older generation to mooch from.
14:46 mircea_popescu i suppose in its own contorted, braindamaged way, the left was preparing for the future.
14:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 28 @ 0.0039 = 0.1092 BTC [-]
14:46 moiety i knew a girl that managed to get a mortgage working at walmart, i had no chance working nhs
14:46 asciilifeform americans won't build хрущобаs, so they're stuck doing weird in-betweens.
14:47 mircea_popescu moiety was she black ?
14:47 moiety mircea_popescu: on the inside
14:47 mircea_popescu asciilifeform but ofcourse they do
14:48 mircea_popescu http://ei.marketwatch.com/Multimedia/2011/06/14/Photos/MG/MW-AK786_homes__20110614143858_MG.jpg?uuid=9db88848-96b5-11e0-b7fe-002128049ad6
14:48 mircea_popescu what do you think that is.
14:48 asciilifeform plywood box
14:49 mircea_popescu i don't think they still use wood
14:49 mircea_popescu i think it's vinyl and recycled pet
14:49 asciilifeform designed to stand up for ~2 decades, in good weather.
14:49 mircea_popescu something like that.
14:52 asciilifeform the 'secret' (not much of one) is that they deliberately build ultra-low-density housing in 'white' sectors, to keep it expensive.
↖
14:52 asciilifeform this is how the wool is trimmed from the relatively well-paid folks in u.s.
14:52 KRS-One lol this shit is getting thick https://twitter.com/threebitidiot
14:53 mircea_popescu is this one ALSO a vc and entreprteneur who thinks himself well known ?
14:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 7 @ 0.08665897 = 0.6066 BTC [-]
14:56 mircea_popescu http://25.media.tumblr.com/6c57c112eefac0d9df5fb12d7208bdc7/tumblr_mvyq0mD6MQ1s3c388o1_500.jpg
14:58 asciilifeform unrelated,
14:58 asciilifeform http://i.imgur.com/asnpvjM.gif
14:59 mircea_popescu ahahaha kickass guy
15:00 mircea_popescu actually spider legs is probably the best solution for robots.
15:00 asciilifeform i've suggested it as 'landing gear' for flying bots, to diametric (who built an example of each at one point)
15:01 asciilifeform then flyer can be quasi-autonomous (land on roofs, otherwise inaccessible places, etc. to recharge via photovoltaics sometimes)
15:01 mircea_popescu yup, that'd work too
15:02 asciilifeform landing gear for a serious flyer more or less has to be arachnoid, to handle non-ideal surfaces
15:02 asciilifeform like treetops
15:02 asciilifeform hobbyists very often lose their machines when it lands in any direction but props-upward
15:03 asciilifeform circuit which turns the panels to face the sun must be independent of the rest of the machine
15:04 asciilifeform for obvious reasons
15:04 moiety pet lasers?! beats the purple one hands down!
15:05 mircea_popescu moiety just think, one could code that thing to bother cats
15:05 mircea_popescu the catsterminator
15:06 asciilifeform one could handily build an approximation of the pictured toy from the guts of five or six 'steerable' webcams.
15:06 moiety mircea_popescu: Plan! I appear to have two subjects ready for testing. though, you know it won't get rid of me forever, i'd come back and show you the results
15:06 mircea_popescu just chase the spot.
15:07 asciilifeform if you retain the cameras/optics in the legs, the machine can be easily programmed to always step on solid ground.
15:07 asciilifeform (exercise for alert reader!)
15:08 moiety it also needs eyes
15:08 mircea_popescu btw, i don't recall if i ever showed diametric my toy anti-fly plan ?
15:08 asciilifeform N+1 legs, lift a leg to use as 'eye'.
15:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.08677323 = 0.2603 BTC [+] {3}
15:08 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: 1970s, 'MIT bugzapper'
15:08 mircea_popescu no, i want artillery :D
15:09 asciilifeform beam bounced around room by mirrors, ~1mW. if beam fails to land on sensor, cranks up to 50W.
15:09 mircea_popescu asciilifeform actually 8 legs is prolly ideal. in rough conditions legs are used for navigation, like a spider. on normal situations two legs are used as depth perceptive eyes
15:09 mircea_popescu there's a reason why "grazing" insects only need 6
15:10 asciilifeform correct.
15:10 asciilifeform and a handful of spare eyes, which normally face the earth, gives resilience against incoming enemy laser.
15:11 mircea_popescu mhm
15:11 mircea_popescu 4chan wisdom ("what was seen cannot be unseen") provides an amply useful philosophical framework
15:11 moiety i'm not planning on arming the cats to be fair
15:11 asciilifeform clever designer can build a swarm, which uses the steerable cameras and lasers for intra-swarm comms
15:11 mircea_popescu "only look when there's something you wish to see"
15:11 asciilifeform immunity to jamming
15:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 20 @ 0.10510929 = 2.1022 BTC [-] {6}
15:13 asciilifeform to fly - foldable mylar membranes between the legs (ornithopter flight - rotors are lame)
15:14 asciilifeform while on this flight of fancy, one can also consider flexible photovoltaics as the 'wings.'
15:14 mircea_popescu mylar is expensive.
15:15 asciilifeform you'd need 1 M^2 or so.
15:15 asciilifeform unlikely to be a major factor in the cost of the machine
15:15 mircea_popescu i guess youd make it real thin anyway
15:18 asciilifeform disabled bird drives a nailgun round through its LiPo battery, explodes honourably.
15:18 asciilifeform picture the epic battles.
15:19 moiety lol
15:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 816 @ 0.0001756 = 0.1433 BTC [-] {5}
15:20 mircea_popescu asciilifeform perhaps too advanced yet, but! suppose the thing actually MADE its own polymers
15:20 mircea_popescu grew wings, assembled batteries,
15:20 mircea_popescu a replicant robot'd be pretty cool
15:22 asciilifeform probably easier to use 'remote-controlled mouse' technique on organic birds
15:22 Mats_cd03 poops
15:22 asciilifeform with added twist that a zombie can install the implant in a generic bird
15:25 * moiety still thinks a cat botherer would be the best plan
15:25 mircea_popescu " I hope you come to this year’s meeting, which will be held on May 20 in Omaha. There will be only one change: after 48 years of allegiance to another soft drink, your Chairman, in an unprecedented display of behavioral flexibility, has converted to the new Cherry Coke. Henceforth, it will be the Official Drink of the Berkshire Hathaway Annual Meeting."
15:25 mircea_popescu AAHAHAHAHA cherry coke!
15:25 mircea_popescu fail.
15:25 mircea_popescu buffett's most shameful and abysmal fail ever!
15:27 kakobrekla previous was normal coke?
15:27 mircea_popescu yea
15:27 mircea_popescu well maybe
15:28 mircea_popescu who's to know, my hayseed was maybe drinking OmahaCola
15:31 moiety not just one change, a distinct drop in respect and increase in hilarity this year
15:31 moiety btctalks ads just get better.. trusted ponzi's now?!
15:31 bitcoinpete even at his advanced age, still hustlin' for that cherry
15:32 benkay en.bitcoin.it down for anyone else?
15:33 mod6 benkay: ya, (Can't contact the database server: Lost connection to MySQL server at 'reading initial communication packet', system error: 111 (mysql))
15:33 benkay pro shit
15:34 moiety https://bitcoinstarter.com/projects/618 just got asked about this. went through it asking what exactly they need money for until the guy says: well fuck im out of words.
15:34 ozbot Bitcoinstarter - Bitcoin Crowdfunding | Creating Online Platform for Freelancers
15:35 moiety 6 devs apparently....
15:36 benkay *starter
15:36 benkay didn't read
15:36 mircea_popescu bitcoinpete this is from 85
15:36 moiety building freelance platform that is 60% complete. need 10btc benkay
15:36 benkay lalalalala not reading moiety
15:37 mircea_popescu ^
15:37 mircea_popescu i wonder where pankkake went of late btw
15:37 moiety lolol
15:37 mircea_popescu i guess he's busy socking me on teh forum
15:37 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=350103.msg5593296#msg5593296
15:37 mircea_popescu epic
15:37 ozbot [Mpex.co] The Scientology of Bitcoin Finance?
15:38 mircea_popescu also TIL MPOE-PR is 1.8687% of bitcointalk's scam accusationsboard.
15:38 mircea_popescu she and 48 scammers keep that ship afloat.
15:39 benkay ;;tslb
15:39 gribble Time since last block: 15 minutes and 27 seconds
15:40 mircea_popescu from the "i'm a derp on the internet hear me roar" dept : "It is often noted that Barack Obama is an expert on constitutional law. That is better than the alternative, but it doesn't follow from that credential that he has a sound (or even benign) philosophical understanding of the constitution. Obama's credentials as a constitutional lawyer pale compared to those of Justice Antonin Scalia, for instance, and Scalia's p
15:40 mircea_popescu hilosophical conception of the constitution is pernicious."
15:41 mircea_popescu isn't it great that every hs drop-out / grocery packing specialist out there gets to judge the president and the supreme court justices ?
15:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 33 @ 0.0039 = 0.1287 BTC [-] {4}
15:44 benkay democracy!
15:44 benkay ;;tslb
15:44 gribble Time since last block: 20 minutes and 20 seconds
15:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 69 @ 0.00385 = 0.2657 BTC [-] {5}
15:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 51 @ 0.0037998 = 0.1938 BTC [-] {2}
15:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00370001 = 0.37 BTC [-]
15:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.0037 = 0.185 BTC [-]
15:48 bitcoinpete mircea_popescu: from the derpartment...
15:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 42 @ 0.00365 = 0.1533 BTC [-]
15:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 55 @ 0.0036277 = 0.1995 BTC [-] {2}
15:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.0036277 = 0.3628 BTC [-] {2}
15:59 mircea_popescu lol
16:05 mircea_popescu According to Buffett's 2006 letter to Berkshire shareholders, Blue Chip had 1970 sales of $126 million as about 60 billion of "stamps were licked by savers, pasted into books, and taken to Blue Chip redemption stores." He also said, "When I was told that even certain brothels and mortuaries gave stamps to their patrons, I felt I had finally found a sure thing." Sales dropped to $19.4 million in 1980 and $1.5 million in
16:05 mircea_popescu 1990. In 2006, revenues came in at $25,920.
16:05 mircea_popescu perhaps worse than the cherry cola.
16:06 mircea_popescu "stay away from technology, we don't understand it. focus on stamps and wrigley's instead"
16:12 B007 I don't think anyone under 20 even knows what Blue Chip was
16:12 mircea_popescu right.
16:12 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=289730.3300
16:12 ozbot [IPVO] [Multiple Exchanges] Neo & Bee - LMB Holdings
16:12 mircea_popescu o look, neo thread is nao about mpex.
16:13 mircea_popescu !t h neobee
16:13 assbot [HAVELOCK:NEOBEE] 1D: 0.00360000 / 0.00391815 / 0.00436789 (12032 shares, 47.14317801 BTC), 7D: 0.00360000 / 0.00438893 / 0.00559000 (97155 shares, 426.40610995 BTC), 30D: 0.00261000 / 0.0043987 / 0.00600000 (600459 shares, 2641.23710017 BTC)
16:13 mircea_popescu understandably, i guess.
16:13 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=504677.0
16:13 ozbot Another Bitcoin Exchange Bites The Dust: Vault of SatosHistory
16:13 mircea_popescu and yet another bites the dust
16:14 mircea_popescu kakobrekla check it out, firsts and shit : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=505226.msg5567104#msg5567104
16:14 mircea_popescu we're like in 2012 over here.
16:15 mircea_popescu or at least, the noobs are.
16:21 B007 "in order to be acknowledged as the single professional trading platform in the world for operations in cryptographic currencies."
16:22 ThickAsThieves <kakobrekla> previous was normal coke? // pepsi, says his book
16:24 B007 http://arstechnica.com/business/2014/03/fans-raise-cash-for-dorian-nakamoto-irrespective-of-his-link-to-bitcoin/
16:24 ozbot Fans raise cash for Dorian Nakamoto, irrespective of his link to Bitcoin | Ars Technica
16:25 ThickAsThieves I like how DrGreg goes "Have you noticed, MPOE-PR, that each and every time you have attempted to start a substantive argument with me of any kind, I have handed you your a** on a platter? " and then goes "The difference is, these folks have the class not to belabor the point, they have the class not to run around after you saying "hey, look at this joke I just made up about you, and
16:25 ThickAsThieves I think it's really funny, and aren't I brilliant?"" in the same breath
16:25 asciilifeform they ought to apologize by seppuku in front of his doorstep instead.
16:26 ThickAsThieves he wants mpoe-pr to teach him more explicitly, rather than laugh that he doesn't read that icbit and gox are scams on his own
16:27 ThickAsThieves http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/07/fla-family-falls-ill-afte_n_4922728.html
16:28 ThickAsThieves i guess the next LSD study results won't be publicly shared
16:28 thestringpuller complete change of toppic
16:28 thestringpuller lol
16:30 mircea_popescu so wait, dr greg stockpicks by lsd ?
16:30 mircea_popescu well... "stock"
16:31 asciilifeform from the lulzfarm:
16:31 asciilifeform http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9246814/U.S._spy_agencies_adopt_new_IT_approach
16:31 ThickAsThieves do we need to read past "The CIA, for instance, is moving toward the cloud with the help of Amazon"
16:31 asciilifeform nope.
16:32 mircea_popescu anyway, the mpoe-pr thing is quite efficient, in that people who still confuse us two inadvertently manage to show about how much effort they're willing to put into research
16:32 mircea_popescu splendid arrangement to my taste.
16:33 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i wonder if it is unpatriotic to point out that generally speaking, the chinese military and perhaps others have been reading the us communications for a while now
16:33 mircea_popescu they don't really need to wait for a snowden to come around
16:34 thestringpuller i feel like that's just an ancillary effect in certain cases - i think there are people who are hell bent on proving MP === MPOE-PR and put plent of effort into researching that. nevertheless...
16:34 mircea_popescu thestringpuller yeah but i mean...
16:34 ThickAsThieves still follows mp's thought on it though\
16:34 mircea_popescu i guess so. kinda strange, it's like... why ?
16:34 ThickAsThieves people willing to put more effort protecting being wrong
16:34 ThickAsThieves than sorting what's right
16:35 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: reading is for beginners. next step: writing.
16:35 mircea_popescu it just sticks out as such an ill advised time and effort investment.
16:35 mircea_popescu i mean, on one hand ample proof to the contrary is available
16:35 mircea_popescu but even that aside... suppose you somehow prove she's me. nao what ?
16:36 thestringpuller then they prove the moon landing was fake?
16:36 thestringpuller I don't have time to think about that.
16:36 mircea_popescu not even a lousy "mp is a hypocreat!11" sticks, it'd work out more like "omg mp is such a better troll than you"
16:36 mircea_popescu it's just... obviously nobody bothered to think it through
16:36 Namworld Dorian Nakamoto will get much more than a free lunch it seems.
16:37 thestringpuller I thought you died Namworld lololol
16:37 ThickAsThieves dorian ain't gettin free anything
16:37 Namworld Yeah well I guess you can't really see it as free.
16:37 mircea_popescu so is threebitidiot someone here ?
16:37 Namworld I did? Oh, I shouldn't be here then.
16:37 mircea_popescu and if so, is a 4th coming ?
16:38 ThickAsThieves 256bitIdiot?
16:38 ThickAsThieves 64bitIdiot at least?
16:38 mircea_popescu at ;east 64 yeah
16:38 mircea_popescu damn this typing
16:39 mircea_popescu hm, iks it me or is bitbet bereft of its favicon nao ?
16:39 asciilifeform http://cryptome.org/2014-info/leah-goodman/leah-goodman.htm
16:40 asciilifeform gentlemen, start your engines
16:40 Namworld Dibs on thirtytwobitidiot. I'll spread "Bitcoin hack tools to print Bitcoins" links replacing victims' OS with Windows ME.
16:40 mircea_popescu https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/442414522729775105
16:40 mircea_popescu doine
16:42 ThickAsThieves no one will do anything with her info anyway
16:42 ThickAsThieves if they are smart
16:42 ThickAsThieves well...
16:42 ThickAsThieves nevermind
16:42 thestringpuller not even sign her up for a bunch of porn magazine subscriptions?
16:42 ThickAsThieves free pron?
16:42 mircea_popescu im sure she'll get all the pizza she can eat
16:43 ThickAsThieves she lives in a $175k house?
16:43 mircea_popescu delivered nice and early
16:43 asciilifeform perhaps woman posted this crap herself - hungers for free sympathy coin.
16:43 mircea_popescu she did post it hereself
16:43 ThickAsThieves oh in vermont
16:43 mircea_popescu due to a keen understanding of how things work online
16:43 mircea_popescu which she's displayed on other occasions too
16:43 ThickAsThieves how come she has crackhead eyes anyway
16:43 ThickAsThieves just one of those looks?
16:45 mircea_popescu anyway, this seems like a normal mortgage you'd expect a 30something to be burdened by neh ?
16:45 * asciilifeform wonders what the punishment for dredging up a correct satoshi would be.
16:45 Namworld Apparently someone just used my email to register a My Wallet on blockchain.info... wtf?
16:45 mircea_popescu http://cryptome.org/2014-info/leah-goodman/pict79.jpg asciilifeform weren't we discussing these before ?
16:45 Namworld Looks like all links are the correct domain, no fishing there.
16:45 mircea_popescu schmuquette paid 200k for that shit ?!
16:46 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: not only that, but:
16:46 mircea_popescu Saint Bonaventure University BAs, Journalism and Political Science; minors in Spanish, Fine Art 1994 – 1998
16:46 mircea_popescu ahaha come on this is too easy. sbu ?!
16:46 ThickAsThieves i only questioned the home price cause I assumed she was in a CA metro
16:46 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: 'said lot is conveyed subject to the restriction that no buildings shall be erected thereon nearer than 15 feet from the street line.'
16:47 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-03-2014#551806
16:47 ozbot #bitcoin-assets log
16:47 mircea_popescu dujde srsly, it's an athletics only thing with like 2k people enrolled
16:47 mircea_popescu this is basically Cocksucking University.
16:47 asciilifeform spam school.
16:48 asciilifeform 'spam like a pro in 21 days.'
16:48 kakobrekla http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizda_%28chemical%29
16:48 ozbot Pizda (chemical) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
16:48 mircea_popescu so much lol
16:48 kakobrekla so its true.
16:48 asciilifeform ahahahaha
16:49 asciilifeform kakobrekla: binging on 'lurkmore' ?
16:49 kakobrekla i dont even
16:50 asciilifeform http://lurkmore.to
16:50 ozbot Lurkmore
16:50 asciilifeform http://lurkmore.to/%D0%9F%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%BA%D0%B0
16:51 asciilifeform http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1386142507004908
16:51 kakobrekla cool
16:53 moiety asciilifeform: https://www.combatcreatures.com/stryder
16:53 moiety found it
16:57 ThickAsThieves OpenEx ‏@_OpenEx_ 44m
16:57 ThickAsThieves the damage:
16:57 ThickAsThieves 38k doge stolen.
16:57 ThickAsThieves 15 ltc. we'll update these numbers when we know more
16:57 mircea_popescu mpoe-pr upon being showed the pizda chemical : "wait pizda is made of hos?"
16:57 ThickAsThieves "The exchange is closing down. Its been a fun beta period but we need to go back to the drawing board for the good of our business/future. <3"
16:57 moiety well theres a shock
16:58 mircea_popescu see, two things they did right :
16:58 mircea_popescu a) stuckj to play currency ; b) closed down when it became clear.
17:00 moiety been as well just paying him
17:03 mircea_popescu asciilifeform http://leahmcgrathgoodman.com/haters/
17:03 mircea_popescu kinda lulzy stuff.
17:06 mircea_popescu "I would bet 0.1btc asicminer pays more in divs the following year."
17:06 mircea_popescu SIXTY BUX
17:10 kakobrekla call it an investment
17:11 ThickAsThieves “Ms. McGrath…my apologies for saying this, you don’t have a clue that you are clueless. If you have the guts to debate me in the press, send me your email address and let’s have it out.”
17:12 ThickAsThieves hey at least he wants to be
17:12 ThickAsThieves bet
17:12 ThickAsThieves make it happen
17:12 ThickAsThieves maybe he loses $600 come resolution
17:13 kakobrekla he wont bet really, not even .1
~ 18 minutes ~
17:32 mircea_popescu kakobrekla has it.
17:43 mircea_popescu why do scammers manage to retain so little of the btc they scam ? well... "We also believe candor benefits us as managers: the CEO who misleads others in public may eventually mislead himself in private."
17:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 269 @ 0.000898 = 0.2416 BTC [+]
17:50 ThickAsThieves mp you gonna start a elder scrolls online guild too?
17:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 40 @ 0.00577999 = 0.2312 BTC [+]
17:51 ThickAsThieves http://elderscrollsonline.com/en/media/videos/703
17:52 mircea_popescu i never got into that,
17:52 mircea_popescu but why don't you start it ?
17:53 ThickAsThieves i'm hoping i can avoid playing it at all
17:53 ThickAsThieves otherwise 80-800 hours gone
17:54 Duffer1 i'm pretty disappointed in the latest crop of mmos
17:54 dexX7_ <ThickAsThieves> 38k doge stolen. < quite a few hacks recently. gox, bistamp, flexcoin, polioniex and openex
17:54 ThickAsThieves i ran a guild once in WoW, started off okay, ended up a slave
17:56 mircea_popescu i've been running a rift guild for what, 4 months ?
17:56 ThickAsThieves Duffer1 this one looks okay, though it seems to borrow from Rift a bit
17:56 mircea_popescu it has ~900 members, and i kick ass at it :D
17:57 mircea_popescu also dominate the ah, but that's usually the case with me
17:57 ThickAsThieves you must not participate in raiding
17:57 mircea_popescu i do not.
17:57 mircea_popescu i never do, i have 5-6 legatii milites to do it
17:58 Duffer1 i've watched some twitch footage of eso, it doesn't look like my type of game, but it's an mmo so i'll still probably play it a bit hehe
17:58 ThickAsThieves i only play dota 2 really
17:58 Duffer1 leading raids reminds me of herding cats
17:58 ThickAsThieves i like that it's just 45min and over
17:59 ThickAsThieves yet you can play 100s of games and still learn
17:59 Duffer1 blizz's new moba looks like a lot of fun
17:59 mircea_popescu raids are really too much like low level sales jobs.
17:59 mircea_popescu at least to my taste.
18:00 ThickAsThieves didnt know they had a moba, neat!
18:00 ThickAsThieves that card game they have looks tarded
18:00 Duffer1 if you can get a core group of competent players on a set schedule then raiding can be a lot of fun
18:01 Duffer1 heroes of the storm i believe it's going to be called
18:01 ThickAsThieves raiding is a paradox that can't be solved
18:01 mircea_popescu Duffer1 but it still consists of following a set procedure and talking to people on the phone.
18:01 ThickAsThieves it would be fun if you remove dthe shitty parts
18:01 ThickAsThieves but the shitty parts are why people raid
18:01 cazalla raiding is dead
18:01 Duffer1 it becomes more about the hanging out with friends than the raiding
18:02 cazalla it's not really about skill, it's a social thing now
18:02 mircea_popescu so then you suck at raiding.
18:02 ThickAsThieves lol
18:02 ThickAsThieves indeed
18:02 cazalla look at the first year of WoW versus the pos it is now
18:02 mircea_popescu cazalla didn't wow end up giving noobs max level just to prop their numbers for investors conference call ?
18:02 ThickAsThieves when i was in a hardcore WoW guild, with real progression, the leader was a total drill sergeant
18:02 ThickAsThieves probly cuz it's all that works
18:03 KRS-One i tried WoW. hated it.. warcraft2 ftw. zug zug.
18:03 mircea_popescu yeah, middle management for mcdonalds.
18:03 Duffer1 hehe
18:03 cazalla ThickAsThieves: it worked well
18:03 mircea_popescu "you gotta move the broom like so!"
18:03 cazalla I did DKP for my guild, it was like taking the high school drop out and making him a cop
18:03 ThickAsThieves hehe
18:03 ThickAsThieves i made my own system for loot
18:04 ThickAsThieves just to appease everyone
18:04 ThickAsThieves you know how that ended up
18:04 cazalla WoW didn't really compare to Everquest though, that game was social + hardcore, none of this soloing rubbish
18:04 ThickAsThieves despite every subtlety to be fair, it never mattered
18:05 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves did you scam them ?
18:05 ThickAsThieves never
18:05 Duffer1 cazz going to play eq next?
18:05 ThickAsThieves you cant lead and get good loot
18:05 mircea_popescu i wonder what thery say if i asked them :D
18:05 ThickAsThieves pfff
18:05 ThickAsThieves while they wouldnt say i scammed, many would say they disagreed with choices
18:05 cazalla reputation mattered in everquest as well, doesn't matter for shit in WoW
18:06 ThickAsThieves some veteren would show up after months away and expect the best loot, some noob would die first for 10 weeks and expect same drop
18:06 mircea_popescu sounds legit.
18:06 ThickAsThieves no one's happy unless they are getting loot
18:07 ThickAsThieves only solution is, randomize the loot
18:07 cazalla unless your item never drops
18:07 mircea_popescu no one is happy unless they are getting more than they estimated they're worth, and everyone's overestimating his own importance.
18:07 cazalla bow off chromagg never dropped for me in 2 years :\
18:07 mircea_popescu that's why governments which make a point of subjects' hapiness never end well.
18:07 ThickAsThieves it's odd that these games never implemented their own DKP systems
18:07 mircea_popescu cazalla why not just buy it
18:08 ThickAsThieves i guess drama builds adoption
18:08 ThickAsThieves just like btc
18:08 cazalla wasn't something you could buy mircea_popescu
18:08 mircea_popescu ew
18:08 mircea_popescu see, this is fucktarded. i would never play a game where you can't buy everything
18:08 mircea_popescu it is an insult to everything i hold right proper and important.
18:08 ThickAsThieves surely rift has raid-only drops
18:08 Duffer1 bind on pickup has it's place though surely
18:09 mircea_popescu Duffer1 bind on equip.
18:09 mircea_popescu bind on pickup is offensive, i'd rather date leah.
18:09 cazalla mircea_popescu: there was a server in EQ like that which allowed everything to be traded so there was a lot of buying/selling going on for that server
18:09 mircea_popescu with her oblong trucker stop face.
18:09 Duffer1 ha
18:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 51 @ 0.00577999 = 0.2948 BTC [+]
18:11 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves rift is of the azn economic persuasion
18:11 mircea_popescu (it has like 50+ currency types, it's insane, tokens of this, tokens of that)
18:12 Duffer1 is there no bind on pickup in rift? i only played the beta
18:12 ThickAsThieves but no raid-only drops?
18:12 ThickAsThieves i find that very hard to believe
18:12 ThickAsThieves raiders must feel special
18:13 cazalla yes, i must feel superior to the scrubs
18:13 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves there's raid-only materials
18:13 mircea_popescu required in crafting
18:13 mircea_popescu afaik nothing is bound unless you equip it
18:13 mircea_popescu thre are some bound to char/acct stuff you buy via the fiat shop
18:13 ThickAsThieves but no Legendary Shield of Final Boss?
18:14 mircea_popescu well in fairness i craft epic items and moist everyone doesn't have them
18:14 mircea_popescu there's no relics crafted yet, too expensive
18:14 mircea_popescu there's legendary and i think 2 more rarities past that
18:14 mircea_popescu so plenty of room for surprises.
18:14 ThickAsThieves these Bliz moba videos arent very compelling
18:15 ThickAsThieves it's funny how Dota basically riffed off Bliz characters already
18:15 ThickAsThieves so now the Bliz moba feels deriviative
18:15 ThickAsThieves (sp)
18:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [MS] 36 @ 0.004597 = 0.1655 BTC [+]
18:15 mircea_popescu derivative
18:16 Duffer1 how does bitcoin integrate to your guild MP?
18:16 cazalla bliz moba will just be another social game with a shop so you can spend more money on flair
18:16 mircea_popescu Duffer1 you can buy plat for it
18:17 cazalla i hope and mmo brings bitcoin into a game and does away with their own in game currency, that'd be interesting in a game with a solid crafting system
18:17 cazalla an*
18:17 mircea_popescu cazalla you heard of s.mg ?
18:17 Duffer1 i see
18:17 cazalla is that your mmo?
18:17 ThickAsThieves i'd play dota 2 way more if btc was on the line
18:18 cazalla i saw pics of that on your blog i believe unless i'm wrong, forget the name
18:18 mircea_popescu cazalla it's this company that's been working for half a year at making a bitcoin based mmo
18:18 mircea_popescu with a strong crafting system
18:18 mircea_popescu exacrtly what you were describing
18:18 cazalla what's the name again
18:18 cazalla of the game
18:18 mircea_popescu eulora
18:19 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves im pretty sure you'll be hooked once it's playable.
18:19 mircea_popescu imo the only games worth playing anymore are btc games, if well done.
18:20 Duffer1 do people actually buy plat for btc?
18:20 Duffer1 er with*
18:21 ThickAsThieves i almost wanna get into 3d modelling just to bank off all the hat buyers
18:21 ThickAsThieves modeling
18:21 Duffer1 hehe
18:21 cazalla ugh hats
18:21 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves will be a good skill ot have, get btc off smg too
18:22 ThickAsThieves i imagine i have good base knowledge with years of vector art experience in 2d
18:23 cazalla i wonder if using bitcoin as in-game currency would stop mudflation
18:23 wao-ender http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/aWZ2z4x_700b_v1.jpg
18:23 mircea_popescu cazalla thats the plan
18:23 wao-ender cazalla: is there problem to make it as in-app payments?
18:23 wao-ender I think it's happening already
18:24 cazalla wao-ender: depends if it's only used to buy products from the company or if players can do trade
18:24 wao-ender ex. buy levels in game, buy experience, skills..
18:25 cazalla i hate that sort of thing
18:25 cazalla allow players to buy/sell items or w/e else they find in the world but that's it
18:25 wao-ender wait, you don't remember how shareware worked few decades ago?
18:25 cazalla no, i had full version of stuff
18:26 cazalla paying to upgrade skills or levels is pay to win
18:26 wao-ender that's what consumers want, easy win
18:26 ThickAsThieves i think a certain amount of paying to level is fine
18:26 cazalla buying/selling items that i find legitimately in game is just common sense
18:26 ThickAsThieves particularly in a game like WoW
18:26 wao-ender obviously, retards will pay.
18:27 cazalla ThickAsThieves: you end up with more idiots who don't know how to play their class that way
18:27 ThickAsThieves well i said a certain amount
18:27 ThickAsThieves let me explain
18:27 ThickAsThieves for example once youve max lvl'd
18:28 ThickAsThieves let me roll another character without doing every stupid quest again
18:28 ThickAsThieves it's insulting
18:28 wao-ender it's imba, right.
18:29 cazalla you need to make the leveling process slow if you do it that way imo
18:29 cazalla just so that it actually means something to have a max level character
18:29 ThickAsThieves sure, maybe the first time, and less and less each time after
18:30 Duffer1 i like how wow eventually tackled that problem
18:30 ThickAsThieves likein WoW, there was often a shortage of tanks and healers
18:30 ThickAsThieves so i had to roll them myself as leader
18:30 cazalla although i will agree that with an older game like WoW, it makes sense to let people buy levels as it's population heavy at the top end
18:30 ThickAsThieves fuck me if i'm gonna spend all the time to level
18:30 Duffer1 with legacy honor gear that's tradable to your alts that give massive xp bonuses
18:30 ThickAsThieves i just bought more accounts
18:31 ThickAsThieves they introduced that around the time i stopped playing
18:31 ThickAsThieves wraith king expansion
18:31 Duffer1 ya they introduced it wayyyy too late
18:31 cazalla i quit after that wotlk, far too much hand holding, it became really boring
18:31 Duffer1 same
18:32 ThickAsThieves and they got very lazy on raid design
18:32 ThickAsThieves like the Arena raid
18:32 ThickAsThieves ugh
18:32 Duffer1 i have no interest in mists of pandas or the new one
18:32 cazalla i'm looking forward to EQN but i doubt it'll be as hardcore as the original, that's not so bad once you have kids though
18:32 ThickAsThieves it's also insulting how often they'd reuse models
18:33 Duffer1 eqn looks very interesting
18:33 ThickAsThieves it seems stupid, but dota 2 letting you buy outfits is such a better solution then just not designing new ones
18:33 ThickAsThieves than
18:34 cazalla yet to play that but i assume outfits are just their version of LoL skins?
18:34 ThickAsThieves dota 2 is very much like LoL yes
18:35 ThickAsThieves in LoL i think it's entire outfits
18:35 ThickAsThieves where in dota it's pieces
18:35 ThickAsThieves like hat or clothes or helmet
18:35 cazalla that sounds better
18:35 ThickAsThieves but they let you replace entire parts really
18:36 ThickAsThieves and models can add particle effects etc
18:36 ThickAsThieves some even come with new voice acting
18:36 ThickAsThieves i'm not terribly familiar with LoL, even though it's more popular
18:36 ThickAsThieves i hat ethe art style
18:37 ThickAsThieves that borderlands kinda shit
18:37 ThickAsThieves ugly
18:37 Duffer1 woah
18:37 Duffer1 woah
18:37 cazalla i don't mind it
18:37 Duffer1 borderlands art is infinitely better than lol
18:37 Duffer1 LoL
18:37 cazalla disagree it's borderlands type though as i hate that style too
18:37 ThickAsThieves i dont play that either
18:37 ThickAsThieves sorry
18:38 ThickAsThieves LoL just looks cheap
18:38 Duffer1 i agree
18:38 ThickAsThieves dota 2 is much better
18:38 cazalla cheap runs on more computers which i would guess is why it's so popular, it'll run on a calculator
18:38 Duffer1 try the first borderlands if you're into rpgs
18:38 ThickAsThieves basically dota 2 riffed off WoW and removed some of the cartoony aspects
18:39 ThickAsThieves like everything being super blocky
18:39 ThickAsThieves just cuz 3d designers are super lazy
18:39 ThickAsThieves or underpaid
18:40 Duffer1 or bad :P
18:40 ThickAsThieves ya
18:40 Duffer1 in wow i always got the sense that the texture artists were really unhappy with the models they got
18:41 ThickAsThieves i dont see how they could not be the same team
18:41 ThickAsThieves i think their budget was just nil
18:42 Duffer1 it's like they had one modeller doing everything, who's style showed throughout every piece of gear, and the rest of the team were disgruntled texture artists
18:43 Duffer1 i don't miss wow hehe, i do miss cracking out on a good mmo though, it's been a really long time
18:43 ThickAsThieves it sounds silly but ugly models definitely contributed to me losing interest in raiding too
18:43 ThickAsThieves they didnt appreciate vanity enough
18:43 Duffer1 exactly
18:43 ThickAsThieves as LoL and Dota make quite clear
18:44 Duffer1 if you're going to make every lvl 80 character class look the same in end game then you better damned well make them look good
18:44 ThickAsThieves illidan warglaives probly made them millions of $
18:44 Duffer1 ha probably
18:44 ThickAsThieves 10s of millions maybe
18:49 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves alternatively, don't allow a second character at all.
18:50 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: unrelated - from what part of the world is mpoepr ?
18:50 mircea_popescu california
18:50 asciilifeform flower in the desert.
18:51 ThickAsThieves how do you disallow more characters whilst allowing new accounts?
18:51 mircea_popescu for instance by removing the incentive to make one
18:51 mircea_popescu why do you want to play anything other than your character anyway ? because inept game design introduced artificial barriers perhaps ?
18:52 ThickAsThieves what if i wanna have a druid AND a vampire?
18:52 mircea_popescu well your druid will die anyway, and permadeath
18:52 Duffer1 i had one of every class to learn pvp weaknesses
18:52 mircea_popescu you can make his kid a vampire
18:52 mircea_popescu asciilifeform california is a big place you know
18:53 ThickAsThieves mp did you ever play that iOS game where every time you die you are the son?
18:53 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves no ?
18:53 mircea_popescu i don't think i ever played an ios game
18:53 ThickAsThieves whats it called someone help me
18:53 mircea_popescu http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/teen-charged-killing-parents-california-mansion-article-1.1714754
18:53 ThickAsThieves http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinity_Blade
18:53 ozbot Infinity Blade - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
18:54 ThickAsThieves you pass on your armory
18:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5409 @ 0.00083137 = 4.4969 BTC [+]
18:54 ThickAsThieves so your son can fight the good fight
18:54 mircea_popescu sounds like eulora.
18:54 ThickAsThieves simple but cool game
18:54 ThickAsThieves made tons of $
18:55 asciilifeform from the same rag, 'Canadian man who poked holes in condoms to impregnate girlfriend loses appeal'
18:55 cazalla ThickAsThieves: rogue legacy?
18:55 ThickAsThieves Infinity Blade
18:55 asciilifeform 'Army captain cries during general’s court martial over alleged sex misconduct'
18:56 mircea_popescu "The two went through a contentious divorce in 1999 but remained friends, business partners and housemates sharing the $3.7 million, six bedroom, eight bathroom home."
18:56 mircea_popescu someone needs to explain this open
18:56 Duffer1 holy shit MP it's Donna's parents from That 70s Show
18:56 mircea_popescu one*
18:56 asciilifeform damn, i should read the u.s. fishwraps more often, full of lulz
18:57 Duffer1 http://images2.fanpop.com/images/polls/248000/248307_1244328184341_full.jpg
18:58 mircea_popescu gee it must suck for that 8yo.
18:58 mircea_popescu parents killed, paralyzed, enjoy your fambly estate.
19:02 Duffer1 at least he didn't unload at a school
19:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45700 @ 0.00083488 = 38.154 BTC [+] {5}
19:04 ThickAsThieves http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1zx9zj/arthur_nakamoto_my_brother_dorian_satoshi_nakamoto/
19:04 ozbot Arthur Nakamoto: My brother, Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto... : Bitcoin
19:05 ThickAsThieves checl out these ads http://www.theverge.com/2014/3/8/5485006/colorado-releases-new-drugged-driving-ad-campaign
19:07 asciilifeform http://www.theverge.com/2014/3/8/5483774/the-cupid-drone-strikes-with-80000-volts-to-the-chest
19:07 ozbot The CUPID drone strikes with 80,000 volts to the chest | The Verge
19:10 mircea_popescu asciilifeform journos must seriously be going to a special retardation school.
19:10 mircea_popescu i have no idea what sort of reverse midas effect this is, but it's uncanny
19:10 mircea_popescu any topic they touch turns to shit
19:10 asciilifeform they go to spam school.
19:10 asciilifeform must be.
19:11 ThickAsThieves getting tased for demo is so stupid
19:11 ThickAsThieves i did a police ride-along and demo day once
19:11 mircea_popescu http://www.insideworldfootball.com/world-football/europe/14238-popescu-jailed-as-romanian-judge-hammers-football-fraudsters
19:11 ozbot Popescu jailed as Romanian judge hammers football fraudsters - Inside World Football
19:11 ThickAsThieves why would you ever volunteer to be tased?
19:12 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves people volunteer for women in heels to walk all over their ballsack.
19:12 mircea_popescu what do you want, people are strange.
19:12 asciilifeform if i recall, some u.s. police academies require taking a shot from a taser.
19:13 ThickAsThieves yeah
19:13 ThickAsThieves so they know what they are dishing out
19:13 mircea_popescu did they do that back in the gun days toio ?
19:14 mircea_popescu also, tasers are stupid easy to counteract. no idea why anyone thinks they're effective or anything.
19:14 asciilifeform they should require a firing squad with at least plastic rounds.
19:14 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: taser came out of a fad for 'humane' police gear.
19:15 mircea_popescu http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/151067206670?lpid=82
19:15 ozbot Blackend Chainmail Shirt Butted Chain Mail Armor Costume Chainmaille Medium Size | eBay
19:15 mircea_popescu $100 dollars.
19:15 ThickAsThieves yeah now these drone vid guys wanna sort humane help for cops
19:15 ThickAsThieves surreal
19:15 mircea_popescu what's a taser cost, 2k ?
19:15 ThickAsThieves less
19:15 asciilifeform no need for chainmail, an ordinary greatcoat does fine
19:15 ThickAsThieves depends on strength i guess
19:15 ThickAsThieves and charge
19:15 mircea_popescu asciilifeform no, you want to short it.
19:16 mircea_popescu nothing quite like the shit exploding in the cop's hands
19:16 ThickAsThieves yeah then he'll shoot you for real
19:16 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: short doesn't do much - modern electric shocker works the way a photo flash does - charge a cap, and let it short through the victim
19:16 asciilifeform (victim in place of xenon tube)
19:17 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves double the chain with kevlar, he can shoot you till he gets bored.
19:17 mircea_popescu asciilifeform this is true.
19:17 asciilifeform a while ago i mentioned tommyguns that were sent to russia during 'lend-lease'
19:17 asciilifeform there is a curious tale about those
19:17 asciilifeform at one point, two drunken grunts decided to have a duel with them
19:18 asciilifeform both got away with broken ribs and a penal battalion sentence.
19:18 ThickAsThieves standing too far apart?
19:19 ThickAsThieves or rigged weapons?
19:19 asciilifeform (they wore the traditional heavy greatcoats)
19:19 asciilifeform soft, slow .45.
19:20 mircea_popescu what, and it failed to penetrate ?
19:20 asciilifeform correct.
19:20 mircea_popescu that's trollage.
19:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15440 @ 0.00083906 = 12.9551 BTC [+] {2}
19:20 asciilifeform the first bullet proof vests were, after all... silk.
19:20 mircea_popescu the round, even historical, is closely subsonic.
19:21 ThickAsThieves here russia, take all these guns, they work fine trust me!
19:21 mircea_popescu ;;calc 300**2 * .2 / 2
19:21 gribble 9000
19:21 mircea_popescu 9kJ. srsly nao.
19:21 ThickAsThieves inspection shows barrels riddled with grainy bits
19:22 moiety we had a bren but we arent allowed it back with out getting the licence redone in England
19:22 asciilifeform 'v' is more important than 'm' here.
19:23 mircea_popescu asciilifeform most .45 fires at around 300km/h
19:23 ThickAsThieves maybe it was a joke never properly explained, they threw the guns at eachother
19:23 mircea_popescu even taking a more historically accurate 200 km/h which is what i did...
19:23 mircea_popescu or meant to do...
19:24 asciilifeform there could be many explanation for the story, assuming it took place as described
19:24 asciilifeform but it is not entirely implausible
19:32 asciilifeform i also recall accounts of 45acp failing to perforate NK soldiers during korean war
19:32 asciilifeform but, i wasn't there, did not see this alive.
19:34 mircea_popescu what is this, some martial arts fascination ?
19:34 mircea_popescu a .45 round will go through an engine block, let alone some bloke
19:34 asciilifeform brought it up because of the taser/coat question.
19:34 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: what do you load yours with, titanium ?
19:34 mircea_popescu i just can't conceive how that'd happen. maybe if the round was hand filled with dust ?
19:36 mircea_popescu what is it, copper mostly
19:37 mircea_popescu copper-nickel w/e
19:38 asciilifeform for those concerned with the question of what will or won't go through X, 'youtube' is the place.
19:39 asciilifeform (well actually, the correct place is a deserted junkyard. but the next best thing)
19:39 mircea_popescu i suppose in an extremely rare case a shot could ricochet of a rib or something, but srsly nao.
19:47 mike_c mythbusters has done a bunch of shows on "is it bulletproof"
19:47 asciilifeform ballistics testing is possibly the #1 hobby of youtube folks
19:47 asciilifeform quality varies
19:48 mircea_popescu i would guess this'd be because a gun is pretty much the coolest toy adults can afford.
19:48 mircea_popescu all those "guns are not toys" adds backfired i guess
19:49 asciilifeform it's a variant on 'ricing'
↖
19:49 asciilifeform (people who endlessly fidget with their cars)
19:49 mircea_popescu http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0417217/quotes?item=qt0158941 << re this excellent pacino performance :
19:49 ozbot Two for the Money (2005) - Quotes - IMDb
19:49 mircea_popescu people seem to have taken the smoking kills adds the same way
19:49 mircea_popescu "well it DOES kill people, and it HASN'T killed me,
19:49 mircea_popescu therefore i am special
19:50 mircea_popescu ergo smoking makes me special"
19:50 B007 smoking is way down in the us
19:50 asciilifeform there's also 'mortido' (as in libido)
19:50 B007 idk about europe
19:50 mircea_popescu B007 depends how you measure it.
19:50 B007 less people per 1000?
19:50 asciilifeform folks who don't get their 'dietary minimum' of 'millideaths per day' tend to get edgy.
19:51 mircea_popescu PM was trading ~50 a share in 2008 and is trading ~90 a share now
19:51 mircea_popescu 31bn revenue / 8bn net
19:52 mircea_popescu about 7x as big as facebook, to put it in terms readily digestible by the online crowd
19:52 mircea_popescu much better profit margin, too. twice as good, in fact.
19:53 mircea_popescu BTI is probably a better example. ~5 per share in the 80s, 100+ per share now.
19:54 B007 I which I could get in....tfw no money
19:54 B007 *wish
19:54 mircea_popescu ~25bn gross ~6bn net, so roughly 4x facebook.
19:54 mircea_popescu so there you have it : smoking is down and the industry makes a degree of magnitude more than social media.
19:54 mircea_popescu who's killing who here ?
19:56 B007 thats accually a good point, but it is still true that smoking in the us is down
19:56 B007 I never stated anything about profits or size compared to fb
19:56 mircea_popescu so what do you mean, smoking as a behaviour ?
19:57 mircea_popescu fucking is also down in the us.
19:57 mircea_popescu and making sense. and making money. and generally everything.
19:57 B007 ummm
19:57 mircea_popescu it's what happens when places go to shit. everything goes down.
20:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.00086507 = 10.7269 BTC [+]
20:01 B007 yeah, but Romania gdp 169,400 vs US 15,680,000
20:01 B007 we have about the same gdp as all of europe
20:03 asciilifeform 'Industry is the only true source of wealth, and there was no industry in Rome. By day the Ostia road was crowded with carts and muleteers, carrying to the great city the silks and spices of the East, the marble of Asia Minor, the timber of the Atlas, the grain of Africa and Egypt; and the carts brought nothing out but loads of dung. That was their return cargo. London turns dirt into gold. Rome turned gold int
↖
20:03 asciilifeform o dirt.'
20:03 asciilifeform (reade's 'martyrdom of man')
20:03 asciilifeform s/rome/usa
20:03 B007 yes, we still have huge industries
20:03 B007 in case you weren't aware
20:04 asciilifeform well, there's pointing a gun at people to make them pay for copied bits
20:04 asciilifeform and then there's building the gun
20:04 asciilifeform and, mostly completing the list, maintaining infrastructure (sort of!)
20:06 mircea_popescu B007 what huge industry were you tihnking about ?
20:07 mircea_popescu they can't even run a paper mill for chrissakes.
20:07 asciilifeform 'arse-mouth loop system' economy.
20:09 mircea_popescu my grandfather was a mayor, and a bunch of other things, but the one true source of public respect was that he owned and operated an american mill
20:09 mircea_popescu it was like... people actually came an extra distance with oxen fucking carts just because of that cool.
20:10 mircea_popescu then there was a war and a number of unfortunate choices... and by today people may want japanese stuff,
20:10 mircea_popescu but i can't readily think of anything which'd be improved by being made in the us.
20:10 mircea_popescu perhaps a cuisinart ?
20:10 asciilifeform how quickly the 'cool' goes.
20:11 mircea_popescu they don't really make the cuisinarts in the us anymore do they
20:11 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: mine certainly wasn't.
20:11 asciilifeform 100% chicom
20:11 mircea_popescu not even a cuisinart.
20:12 mircea_popescu The trademark is a subsidiary of and owned by Conair Corporation which acquired the brand following Cuisinart's bankruptcy in 1989.
20:12 mircea_popescu heh.
20:12 mircea_popescu the consumer appliance that inspired jobs.
20:12 mircea_popescu how quickly the cool goes...
20:13 Duffer1 if you want it to taste really good and take 30 years off the average life span of your customers.. and be dirt cheap, then you want american expertise
20:13 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: the four little green RNGs were made at a u.s. plant. cost: ~their weight in pure gold.
20:13 asciilifeform (the boards alone!)
20:14 mircea_popescu well at least that gold didnt turn into pure shit.
20:15 asciilifeform i think every other customer of that place is part of the DOD wankatron.
20:15 asciilifeform no one else in his right mind has anything made here
20:15 asciilifeform visit the web site of any u.s. pcb maker, they're all decorated with pictures of fighter jets, boats, etc.
20:16 mike_c PM is actually international only, no US.
20:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07900102 = 0.158 BTC [-] {2}
20:16 mircea_popescu mike_c it doesn't sell in the us ?!
20:17 mike_c they split it up. NYSE:PM is intl only
20:17 mike_c I believe Altria holds PM USA
20:17 mircea_popescu no lm, no marlboro ?
20:17 mircea_popescu oh
20:17 Duffer1 ya altria
20:17 mike_c although they have done well over the last few years too
20:18 mircea_popescu mike_c yeah it doesn't substantially alter the argument
20:18 mike_c i thought it would, but it does not. altria has doubled over the last few years
20:18 mircea_popescu in fact, it bolsters it : intl only pm does substantially equally well as the us-only pm
20:19 mircea_popescu hahahaha this is hysterical :
20:19 mircea_popescu USA tobacco18,474 / 4,812
20:20 mircea_popescu International tobacco48,260/ 8,458
20:20 mircea_popescu usa tobaccomuch more productive. i guess bans help indeed.
20:21 mike_c it's interesting, because i have always heard anecedotally that taxes were killing US tobacco. i guess i heard it from the tobacco lobby :)
20:21 mircea_popescu i guess you must have yeah.
20:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.079 = 0.553 BTC [-] {3}
20:33 joecool altria is PM rebranded, they are the same
20:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.07900001 = 0.553 BTC [+] {2}
20:33 moiety when is BB back?
20:34 joecool altria, rj reylolds, and lorillard i think are the big 3
20:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 99 @ 0.0056 = 0.5544 BTC [-] {4}
20:48 mike_c not rebranded, they split up their domestic and international business.
20:57 joecool Philip Morris International was split from Philip Morris USA in March 2008. < ah missed that
21:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 9 @ 0.021 = 0.189 BTC [+]
21:19 bitcoinpete In which I figure out how to use footnotes:
21:19 bitcoinpete http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/what-is-business-the-roman-catholic-church-for-one/
21:19 ozbot What Is Business? The Roman Catholic Church, For One | When Bitcoin Met Pete
21:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00084721 = 5.6763 BTC [-]
21:21 MisterE nothing worse than a flat market
21:21 MisterE fucking dead calm
~ 19 minutes ~
21:41 Mats_cd03 on the subject of death
21:41 Mats_cd03 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micromort
21:41 ozbot Micromort - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
21:43 Mats_cd03 > a unit of risk measuring a one-in-a-million probability of death
21:43 Mats_cd03 > Activities that increase the death risk by roughly one micromort, and their associated cause of death:
21:43 Mats_cd03 > Eating 100 charcoal-broiled steaks (cancer from benzopyrene)
21:43 Mats_cd03 > Travelling 230 miles (370 km) by car
21:43 Mats_cd03 > Travelling 6000 miles (9656 km) by train
21:43 Mats_cd03 > Travelling 1000 miles (1600 km) by jet
21:46 MisterE Mats_cd03: are you an insurance adjuster?
21:47 chetty_ crossing the street?
21:50 asciilifeform chetty_: russian roulette, ~143,000 micromorts.
↖
21:52 asciilifeform (an american would think: ~167,000 but he's wrong.)
21:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 60 @ 0.00395 = 0.237 BTC [-] {2}
21:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.07899998 = 0.316 BTC [-] {2}
22:04 Mats_cd03 no im not an insurance adjuster
22:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6442 @ 0.00084721 = 5.4577 BTC [-]
22:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 273 @ 0.00055003 = 0.1502 BTC [-] {2}
22:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.046 = 0.138 BTC [+]
~ 25 minutes ~
22:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00084676 = 6.6894 BTC [-]
~ 19 minutes ~
23:01 KRS-One damn near perfect:
23:01 KRS-One http://www.donnaperfetta.com/db/_pic/michelle-hunziker/8f4d567cd77373334e39e58ed775b2c3.jpg
23:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 16 @ 0.02294999 = 0.3672 BTC [+] {2}
23:09 MisterE US warns Russia not to annex Crimea: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26501716
23:09 MisterE Little late for that eh?
23:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 125 @ 0.0057548 = 0.7194 BTC [-] {4}
23:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.04652498 = 0.4652 BTC [+] {8}
23:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 19 @ 0.02348677 = 0.4462 BTC [+] {5}
23:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 137 @ 0.00380005 = 0.5206 BTC [-] {5}
23:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00084676 = 2.1169 BTC [-]
23:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.BBET] 2655 @ 0.0005 = 1.3275 BTC [-]
23:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00084676 = 1.2701 BTC [-]
23:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.NSA] 6457 @ 0.000105 = 0.678 BTC [-]
23:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800 @ 0.00084676 = 0.6774 BTC [-]
23:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.07727081 = 1.1591 BTC [-] {3}
23:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1953 @ 0.00420662 = 8.2155 BTC [+] {16}
23:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4704 @ 0.00084676 = 3.9832 BTC [-]
23:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 347 @ 0.0043 = 1.4921 BTC [-]
~ 18 minutes ~
23:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 201 @ 0.004 = 0.804 BTC [-] {3}
23:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 2900 @ 0.00090454 = 2.6232 BTC [+] {5}
← 2014-03-07 | 2014-03-09 → ↑

Random(trilema) | Download hourly DB snapshot | Get Source Code

Theme: Light | Dark | System Default