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00:10 Namworld Enhancing your body with unobtainium: - 1'000'000 micromort
00:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25000 @ 0.00086058 = 21.5145 BTC [+]
00:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00086058 = 11.2736 BTC [+]
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00:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.04540006 = 0.2724 BTC [-] {4}
00:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.04528 = 0.2264 BTC [-] {4}
00:45 KRS-One whats that mean Namworld
00:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0449 = 0.2245 BTC [-] {4}
00:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 30 @ 0.0056 = 0.168 BTC [-]
00:56 chetty_ buying bitcoin +1'000'000 micromort
01:01 assbot Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1705466/plain/)
01:01 benkay !b 1
01:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 31 @ 0.08699998 = 2.697 BTC [+]
01:19 Namworld ref to something Mats said earlier
01:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 25 @ 0.00404999 = 0.1012 BTC [+] {2}
01:39 Namworld http://coinsight.org/mtgox.html
01:39 ozbot Mt.Gox BTC Transactions - Coinsight.org
01:39 Namworld Movements? The heck.
01:40 mircea_popescu what is coinsight
01:41 Namworld What now? Mark specifying hackers stole private keys and wiped his servers?
01:41 mircea_popescu lol
01:41 Namworld A stats and tracking website.
01:42 mircea_popescu kinda dubious in that it's based on gox.
01:42 Namworld I believe this is based on past addresses used by MtGox, as per past transactions listed in their API
01:43 Namworld API isn't there anymore, but some MtGox addresses where known.
01:43 mircea_popescu Transactions are recorded automatically every 5 minutes from this page, which displays all Bitcoin transactions from Mt.Gox that have not been confirmed for 2 or more hours according to their wallet software.
01:43 mircea_popescu link is to mtgox api
01:43 Namworld Oh...
01:44 Namworld looks like MtGox is still publishing that it's moving lotta Bitcoins...
01:45 Namworld This must be an ode to stupidity.
01:45 mircea_popescu it definitely is.
01:45 Namworld Ok, I'm laughing now. This is too much.
01:46 chetty_ they left the fake transaction bots running?
01:47 mircea_popescu bitcoinpete you know, there are numerous religions longer lasting than the catholic church
01:47 Namworld No... those transactions... some are in the blockchain it seems.
01:48 mircea_popescu confucius, for one, was born way before christ.
01:48 mircea_popescu for that matter, so has buddha
01:48 mircea_popescu either of them has more followers today than jesus
01:49 bitcoinpete mircea_popescu: Sure, Judaism too… Maybe not as centralized as such, nor as auspiciously
01:49 mircea_popescu judaism = christianity.
01:49 mircea_popescu nobody in the business seriously considers the branches apart from the root.
01:49 Namworld islam too
01:49 mircea_popescu judaism -> orthodoxy -> catholicism -> islam, same thing
01:50 bitcoinpete Lest we forget Mormonism
01:50 mircea_popescu minor disagreements over who exactly the prophets are
01:50 mircea_popescu i guess you can include the various protestant and neoprotestant sects in there.
01:50 mircea_popescu generally they're ignored for their complete lack of intellectual production and cultural impact
01:50 bitcoinpete Catholic Church still seems to win the "most successful" award for land, art, gold, etc
01:50 mircea_popescu but if you go by headcount i guess you gotta count the muricans.
01:51 mircea_popescu only because you're unfamiliar with the east.
01:51 Namworld Go abraham (not the lincoln one)
01:52 bitcoinpete Moderately familiar with Hinduism and Buddhism. I guess the branch-tree argument is valid. Continuity is continuity
01:52 rithm paganism arguably oldest religion
01:52 mircea_popescu MisterE: Little late for that eh? < lawl. it's what bystanders do, usually. comment on future events as they perceive them, which obviously to the actual players are long past.
01:53 mircea_popescu bitcoinpete the objection was to art land and gold
01:53 mircea_popescu if you think anyone can compete with buddhism over that you're nuts, they probably have more than all the others combined.
01:53 mircea_popescu Mats_cd03 yeah not bad measure.
01:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5376 @ 0.00086493 = 4.6499 BTC [+]
01:54 bitcoinpete Huh… nuts I must be. This, I did not know
01:54 mircea_popescu they (ie, indian govt) recently opened the vault of donations of one of the larger temples
01:55 mircea_popescu > 200 tons of gold in items, many older than 1700
01:55 mircea_popescu never seen before.
01:55 MisterE nice
01:55 MisterE lots of hoards down there
01:55 mircea_popescu http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2011/07/06/137627235/some-22-billion-in-gold-diamonds-jewels-found-in-indian-temple
01:56 MisterE what was the british mainly sucking out of them? textiles?
01:56 mircea_popescu everything thery could get their hands on, basically.
01:58 mircea_popescu hey justusranvier
01:58 bitcoinpete crikey. That makes the Vatican look like a Swiss McDonald's
01:58 justusranvier hello
01:58 mircea_popescu my point exactly.
01:58 mircea_popescu justusranvier what's your relation to conformal ?
01:58 justusranvier mircea_popescu: fan
01:58 mircea_popescu yeah they really should have a guy here.
01:59 justusranvier I passed that message along
01:59 mircea_popescu at the very least mike_c and benkay'd be very interesting in their stuff.
01:59 mircea_popescu speaking of wolverine...
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03:01 punkman http://www.artfido.com/blog/is-this-the-best-way-to-recognize-the-artists-of-famous-paintings/
03:02 mircea_popescu lol huge asses ? srsly ?
03:02 punkman I lol'd "If everyone – including the women – looks like Putin, then it’s van Eyck."
03:03 mircea_popescu http://cdn.head-fi.org/a/ae/aec36ec3_arty_pics_big_ass_amateurs_butt_morenna_large.jpg_480_480_0_64000_0_1_0.jpeg < that is large ass.
03:03 mircea_popescu i wish i could get dali to ilustrate eulora
03:03 mircea_popescu sadly...
03:04 mircea_popescu "If the paintings have tons of little people in them but otherwise seem normal, it’s Bruegel. ajahaha
03:04 bitcoinpete He didn't even pick the lowest hanging fruit: Botero's chubby fruit
03:05 mircea_popescu bitcoinpete i don't think author even understands there's any depth to the matter. the bread's all flat to him, like he was born in the internet age.
03:08 mircea_popescu punkman i suppose the putin-ness has to do with ethnicity. eyck painted locals and putin is apparently baltic stock
03:10 bitcoinpete mircea_popescu: flat like Monet's lilypadz, flat like Guernica's bull, flat like Matisse's Icarus, flat like Saskatchewan
03:11 mircea_popescu no, flat like cartman.
03:11 bitcoinpete that's flat
03:11 mircea_popescu http://southpark.wikia.com/wiki/Jewpacabra/Script grep "No! The bread's all flat! No!"
03:11 ozbot Jewpacabra/Script - South Park Archives - Cartman, Stan, Kenny, Kyle
03:12 bitcoinpete Only a month away!
03:13 bitcoinpete And incredibly easy for the gluten intolerant
03:14 mircea_popescu An application of micromorts is measuring the value that humans place on risk: for example, one can consider the amount of money one would have to pay a person to get him or her to accept a one-in-a-million chance of death (or conversely the amount that someone might be willing to pay to avoid a one-in-a-million chance of death). When put thus, people claim a high number but when inferred from their day-to-day actions
03:14 mircea_popescu (e.g., how much they are willing to pay for safety features on cars) a typical value is around $50 (in 2009)
03:14 punkman micromorts, heh
03:14 mircea_popescu However utility functions are often not linear, i.e the more a person has already spent on their safety the less they are willing to spend to further increase their safety. Therefore the $50 valuation should not be taken to mean that a human life (1 million micromorts) is valued at $50,000,000.
03:15 mircea_popescu [But much less.]
03:15 mircea_popescu Furthermore the local linearity of any utility curve means that the micromort is useful for small incremental risks and rewards, not necessarily for large risks
03:15 mircea_popescu [in the sense it overstates their cost]
03:21 bitcoinpete Post updated thanks to mircea_popescu
03:21 bitcoinpete http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/what-is-business-the-roman-catholic-church-for-one/
03:21 ozbot What Is Business? The Roman Catholic Church, For One | When Bitcoin Met Pete
03:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 400 @ 0.0040028 = 1.6011 BTC [-] {7}
03:22 mircea_popescu bitcoinpete make.
03:23 bitcoinpete Ever vigilant!
03:23 bitcoinpete Corrected.
03:23 mircea_popescu "He (John Kerry) made clear that continued military escalation and provocation in Crimea or elsewhere in Ukraine, along with steps to annex Crimea to Russia would close any available space for diplomacy, and he urged utmost restraint," the official said.
03:24 mircea_popescu the obscure part in all of this is what exact space for diplomacy does russia need here ?
03:24 mircea_popescu you want the gas fine, you don't want the gas also fine.
03:24 mircea_popescu you want us to confiscate your investments fine, you don't want us to also fine.
03:24 mircea_popescu rarely has one such a conveniently diplomacy-immune position.
03:31 MisterE "Assange attacked what he sees as the powerlessness of even the most theoretically powerful politicians, and asked what would happen if President Barack Obama said tomorrow he was immediately disbanding the NSA, or even the CIA."
03:31 MisterE Umm, that evening or the next day he would be assassinated?
03:31 MisterE http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/mar/08/julian-assange-wikileaks-nsa-sxsw
03:32 chetty_ nah, not worth a bullet, they just laugh at him. take his phone away
03:34 MisterE lol
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03:57 mircea_popescu nothing at all would happen lol
03:57 mircea_popescu there;s no such thing as "powerful" in the fiat world, being it a politician including obama, or a media personality including whoever the fuck you watch, or a financial guy.
03:58 mircea_popescu mat dimon is powerless to do anything about anything, one regular here is a lot more powerful in that WE ACTUALLY CONTROL our bitcoins.
03:58 mircea_popescu random CEO can do exactly jack shit.
03:58 MisterE some people hold commodities
03:58 mircea_popescu which is really why it's so fun to humiliate and torment them, the naked emperors of power.
03:58 MisterE gold, etc.
03:59 MisterE hell water is the next asset
03:59 mircea_popescu yeah, yeah. here's a simple test of your property :
03:59 mircea_popescu try setting it on fire.
03:59 MisterE hehe
03:59 mircea_popescu most people belabouring under the delusion they "own" a house aren't aware they only "own" it inasmuch as there's something to b e paid on it.
04:00 MisterE if they used a proper bank ledger they would see everything they have is a liability
04:00 MisterE but they are not taught these things in school
04:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.NSA] 2443 @ 0.0001 = 0.2443 BTC [-]
04:10 mircea_popescu well obama is not in a better position.
04:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MG] 1000 @ 0.000154 = 0.154 BTC [+]
04:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 45 @ 0.07508232 = 3.3787 BTC [-] {12}
04:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 28 @ 0.07200001 = 2.016 BTC [-] {5}
04:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 57 @ 0.00573175 = 0.3267 BTC [-] {3}
04:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00086463 = 11.4131 BTC [-]
04:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.5811001 = 1.1622 BTC [-] {2}
04:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61479987 BTC [+]
04:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61479 BTC [-]
04:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17000 @ 0.00086493 = 14.7038 BTC [+]
04:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8874 @ 0.00086493 = 7.6754 BTC [+]
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05:12 jurov ;;bc,stats
05:12 gribble Current Blocks: 289681 | Current Difficulty: 3.81572379881463E9 | Next Difficulty At Block: 290303 | Next Difficulty In: 622 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 19 hours, 34 minutes, and 58 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4168639115.88 | Estimated Percent Change: 9.24897
05:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.04495001 = 0.4495 BTC [-] {3}
05:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.08887999 = 0.4444 BTC [+] {4}
05:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 34 @ 0.00423996 = 0.1442 BTC [+]
05:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 78400 @ 0.00086751 = 68.0128 BTC [+] {3}
05:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 21 @ 0.00574761 = 0.1207 BTC [+] {3}
05:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 31 @ 0.00577837 = 0.1791 BTC [+] {4}
05:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 215 @ 0.00423996 = 0.9116 BTC [+]
05:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 75 @ 0.00579994 = 0.435 BTC [+]
05:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0447 = 0.2235 BTC [-] {3}
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06:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.58001 = 1.16 BTC [-] {2}
06:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00086538 = 12.9807 BTC [-] {3}
06:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13196 @ 0.00086409 = 11.4025 BTC [-] {2}
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06:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21150 @ 0.0008619 = 18.2292 BTC [-] {2}
07:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 20 @ 0.04393749 = 0.8787 BTC [-] {4}
07:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.08994799 = 0.8995 BTC [+] {4}
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07:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.58002417 = 3.4801 BTC [+] {3}
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08:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 2 @ 0.05449913 = 0.109 BTC [+] {2}
08:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 48 @ 0.00423993 = 0.2035 BTC [+]
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08:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 379 @ 0.000912 = 0.3456 BTC [-]
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08:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7638 @ 0.00086173 = 6.5819 BTC [-]
08:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 293 @ 0.000885 = 0.2593 BTC [-] {3}
08:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1328 @ 0.00086399 = 1.1474 BTC [-] {5}
09:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 97 @ 0.00424138 = 0.4114 BTC [-] {2}
09:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 82 @ 0.00423993 = 0.3477 BTC [-]
09:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27650 @ 0.00086237 = 23.8445 BTC [+]
09:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 800 @ 0.00018277 = 0.1462 BTC [+] {5}
09:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46883 @ 0.00086031 = 40.3339 BTC [-] {4}
09:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14750 @ 0.00086237 = 12.72 BTC [+]
09:40 mircea_popescu http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=81
09:40 ozbot #bitcoin-assets bash
09:40 mircea_popescu ahahaha o may gawd i nearly fell over
09:45 KRS-One heh fucken vexual
09:46 KRS-One i like that cunt
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10:09 deadweasel well this jimmothy is still talkin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=350103.msg5593296#msg5593296
10:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.NSA] 15600 @ 0.0001 = 1.56 BTC [-]
10:24 mircea_popescu i suppose we should have a bet as to when he goes the way of ciuciu, eskimobob and so many other great names
10:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 59 @ 0.04267406 = 2.5178 BTC [-] {10}
10:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 27 @ 0.09093998 = 2.4554 BTC [+] {7}
10:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 406 @ 0.00401795 = 1.6313 BTC [-] {11}
10:42 punkman http://themiraclemachine.net/img/info-graphic.png
10:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5150 @ 0.00086501 = 4.4548 BTC [+]
10:49 nubbins` wut
10:58 dexX7 yay welcome to teh future
10:58 dexX7 http://themiraclemachine.net
11:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 120 @ 0.00386558 = 0.4639 BTC [-] {5}
11:02 asciilifeform dexX7: 'eat recycled food! it's good for the environment, and ok for you!' ('judge dredd')
11:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1103 @ 0.00379842 = 4.1897 BTC [-] {11}
11:02 asciilifeform dexX7: if the 'miracle' crap is serious, americans will be drinking the same kind of wine as they drink coffee
11:02 dexX7 haha true
11:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 104 @ 0.00375043 = 0.39 BTC [-]
11:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 29 @ 0.00375043 = 0.1088 BTC [-]
11:06 mircea_popescu !t h neobee
11:06 assbot [HAVELOCK:NEOBEE] 1D: 0.00362770 / 0.00402835 / 0.00430001 (6748 shares, 27.18330834 BTC), 7D: 0.00360000 / 0.00434362 / 0.00549990 (100201 shares, 435.23483185 BTC), 30D: 0.00261000 / 0.0044337 / 0.00600000 (589434 shares, 2613.37069273 BTC)
11:12 dexX7 what a trash video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBQ-IoHfimQ ... 18m views pff
11:14 bitcoinpete sofa king we todd had
11:14 bitcoinpete and howdy
11:22 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: i think that has already been answered, but are options completely disabled or is only the bot not quoting?
11:22 thestringpuller because of the issue with puts?
11:25 bitcoinpete "The other telling tale in terms of currency besides the fact that no central bank is going to ever let (go of) control of how they deal with their own economy, is no one that I've seen so far that's in traditional sales that is taking bitcoin keeps it as bitcoin. They all translate it to dollars. And if you translate it into dollars it's not a currency." - Mark Cuban
11:26 bitcoinpete http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/columnist/baig/2014/03/09/mark-cuban-cyber-dust-sxsw/6226925/
11:26 ozbot SXSW: Cuban on bitcoin and why texts should bite Cyber Dust
11:27 asciilifeform 'Kids are understanding that now. That's why Snapchat's been so popular. They don't want to have that footprint out there.' << lol
11:29 asciilifeform story time
11:30 asciilifeform asimov was once asked what he would do if he were to take a trip in time machine and could teach/prove just one fact about physics to the ancients
11:30 asciilifeform he said 'show them the world is made of atoms'
11:30 mircea_popescu thestringpuller they're disabled.
11:30 asciilifeform so, if i could teach just one thing to these lost souls:
11:31 asciilifeform 'the difference between promise and mechanism.'
11:31 mircea_popescu bitcoinpete because obviously the ones that do keep it as bitcoin would report that to mark cuban
11:31 mircea_popescu it makes perfect sense huh.
11:32 mircea_popescu asciilifeform the difference'd be that the difference between promise and mechanism is by no means a novel idea, just like the knowledge of communism = idiocy is ancient.
11:32 asciilifeform entirely true!
11:32 mircea_popescu then again, i suppose the atomic view is also ancient, so... perhaps that's why we can't make time machines yet
11:32 asciilifeform nothing novel here
11:32 mircea_popescu we'd be fucking boring to those people.
11:32 asciilifeform hence the analogy
11:33 mircea_popescu it's all their spam filters keeping us out
11:33 asciilifeform and i think mr. a meant 'hammer through their thick retarded heads' rather than merely 'tell them.'
11:33 mircea_popescu and actually... i wish an ancient would come this way into time and bring me blueprints of his fucking spam filter
11:33 mircea_popescu that way i could somehow filter out idiots who in 2014 create "momentuous historic events" that "revoilutionise bla bla" by poorly reimplementing 2011's mpex
11:34 mircea_popescu then again i guess i already have that too, in the form of a philosophy degree
11:34 bitcoinpete haha
11:34 mircea_popescu fuck me, the world is perfect
11:34 mircea_popescu who knew.
11:34 ThickAsThieves ;;later tell nubbins` Interested in doing art for an album cover? Short turn needed, close-up of beast chomping a microphone. If so, lemme know price, eta. Thanks!
11:34 gribble The operation succeeded.
11:36 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: that way i could somehow filter out idiots << but they're already filtered - they aren't in your living room, and they aren't in mine. on the other hand, if filters could physically zap spammers, there would be considerably more interest in filter...
11:37 bitcoinpete mircea_popescu how old is the idea of communism by your reckoning? Mazdak was one of the first notable purveyors, at least according to Tom Holland
11:38 bitcoinpete asciilifeform: the ancients understood atoms perfectly well, certainly the buddhists
11:38 CheckDavid http://opentransactions.org/wiki/index.php?title=About. < anyone knows the difference between this and mastercoin?
11:38 asciilifeform bitcoinpete: probably as old as the first humanoid who looked with envy at an anthill
11:39 mircea_popescu bitcoinpete it's really just poorly repackaged buddhism
11:39 asciilifeform bitcoinpete: the ancients understood atoms perfectly well << very peculiar meaning of 'understand' needed for this to be true
11:39 CheckDavid Did anyone here user open transactions to create or issue an asset?
11:39 mircea_popescu CheckDavid knotwork perhaps the only one.
11:39 CheckDavid Oh
11:39 asciilifeform CheckDavid: plenty of people have used the blockchain as a telegraph, when the occasion called for it
11:40 CheckDavid knotwork: my nigga
11:40 mircea_popescu it's an ancient thing, ot, i recall sponsoring it in like 2012
11:40 CheckDavid lol
11:43 bitcoinpete "As a result, this digital-savvy cohort is looking to the tech sector to provide banking solutions. Half of respondents said they were counting on startups to overhaul how banks work, and three-quarters said they would be more excited in financial services provided by Google, Amazon, Apple, PayPal, or Square than from their own banks."
11:43 bitcoinpete http://www.fastcompany.com/3027197/fast-feed/sorry-banks-millennials-hate-you?utm_content=buffer7a415&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
11:43 ozbot Sorry Banks, Millennials Hate You | Fast Company | Business + Innovation
11:44 bitcoinpete I love the "counting on startups" bit
11:44 asciilifeform 'Sorry, Meat Processing Plants - Cattle Hate You'
11:44 mircea_popescu lol
11:48 mircea_popescu the evolution of the smiley is something incredible.
11:48 mircea_popescu they were all :-) originally
11:48 mircea_popescu then people dispensed with the nose, leading to the now common :)
11:48 asciilifeform speaking of meat processing:
11:49 mircea_popescu yet the trend aren't stopping, now the eyes are gone too. it's just )))))
11:49 asciilifeform many years ago, some russian fellow made a short film about karpeles & co.
11:49 asciilifeform https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEnz9CaJqTY
11:49 ThickAsThieves nose was too derpy
11:49 asciilifeform no words, so no subtitles needed.
11:49 mircea_popescu aren't smileys supposed to be derpy ?
11:49 ThickAsThieves millenials hating banks is as old as overdraft fees
11:50 mircea_popescu ;~}
11:50 bitcoinpete mircea_popescu: azns clearly pushed the noseless look, it wasn't no persian
11:50 ThickAsThieves next is millenials hating cable cuz commercials (cuz netflix)
11:50 mircea_popescu :¬|
11:51 mircea_popescu bitcoinpete clearly
11:51 bitcoinpete There's a dilbert hiding in there somewhere
11:51 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves im pretty sure cable is dead as a going concern
11:51 ThickAsThieves but dat death grip
11:51 mircea_popescu they couldn't kill smoking, but cable failed to thrive in the interval
11:51 mircea_popescu nah, it just survives cause coaxial internet
11:52 mircea_popescu in most countries cable companies only sell their tv packages because they're bundled with the internet
11:52 ThickAsThieves %)
11:52 mircea_popescu otherwise people'd be... whatever.
11:54 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
11:54 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 639.1, Best ask: 641.98, Bid-ask spread: 2.88000, Last trade: 639.1, 24 hour volume: 11624.21200374, 24 hour low: 604.5, 24 hour high: 653.0, 24 hour vwap: 625.505735661
11:54 mircea_popescu ;;calc 5.7185 / 1450 / 639.1
11:54 gribble 6.17085448826e-06
11:54 mircea_popescu ha! trilema the rift guild makes ~600 satoshi a day in taxes.
11:55 mircea_popescu no wait i fucked it up
11:55 ThickAsThieves won't even cover a teamspeak server
11:55 mircea_popescu ;;calc 5.7185 / 1450 * 14.95 / 639.1
11:55 gribble 9.22542745995e-05
11:55 mircea_popescu 9k satoshi
11:56 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i gotta ask, wtf is a Gunwitch ?
11:56 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves aren't those free ?
11:56 mircea_popescu asciilifeform the nom de guerre / plume of some particularly unhinged pick up artist guy
11:56 ThickAsThieves dunno, i recall needing to pay for larger usage
11:56 ThickAsThieves maybe that was Ventrilo
11:56 mircea_popescu who may or may not be this fellow : http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/002/046/best_guy_ever.jpg
11:57 asciilifeform i pictured it in my head as a witch who rides a DP (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/13/Machine_gun_DP_MON.jpg) instead of broom
11:58 mircea_popescu too feasible.
11:58 asciilifeform the man in the photo - did he pull the trigger and blow his cock ?
11:58 asciilifeform he looks determined.
11:58 mircea_popescu actually, you may get a kick out of reading his (obviously very valuable) instructions and teachings.
11:58 mircea_popescu it was all about "projecting your sexuality" upon random unfortunate members of the general public
11:59 mircea_popescu at like... the bus stop
11:59 mircea_popescu and "make the ho say no"
11:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.39806461 BTC to 3`639 shares, 65899 satoshi per share
11:59 mircea_popescu then he shot some woman in the face.
11:59 asciilifeform 'Spam Like a Pro in 21 Days!'
11:59 mircea_popescu anyway. half the rift guild is russian and ukrainian
11:59 mircea_popescu we're having a ball these days :D
11:59 asciilifeform lol
12:00 asciilifeform also i thought 'witch' in english was female.
12:00 ThickAsThieves lotsa russians in dota too
12:00 mircea_popescu asciilifeform nope. there's no gender in it.
12:00 asciilifeform ThickAsThieves: also in WOT (the other wot! 'world of tanks')
12:01 dexX7 CheckDavid: i don't know much about ot, but it seems it's something completly new, more like a next gen bitmessage + encryption + central server bundle. mastercoin has it's own transaction types etc. and stores them encoded in the blockchain
12:01 mircea_popescu people who speak languages with genders end up with fictitious gender partitions like witch/wizard because the teachers are lazy
12:01 ThickAsThieves why so many russians in online games now?
12:01 mircea_popescu but otherwise, there's no such allocation in english
12:01 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves because they can finally afford mass computers and net
12:01 mircea_popescu in the 2000s it was a business expense for the girfrliendsa working the cams,
12:01 mircea_popescu and by now on their sweat and toil it became generally available
12:02 CheckDavid dexX7: oh. So that system is centralized unlike master coin
12:02 ThickAsThieves porn, the mortar of technology
12:02 mircea_popescu dexX7 what do you mean new ? the guy's been working at it since before my time
12:02 asciilifeform porn, the reconnaissance battalion of technology.
12:03 ThickAsThieves all the people that want decentralized shit like ot and mastercoin are too dumb to use it
12:03 dexX7 CheckDavid: as said, i'm not really sure how it works. there seem to be central processing servers. new in the sense of "not bitcoin, new underlying technology"
12:03 CheckDavid I see
12:03 mircea_popescu asciilifeform pretty much
12:03 ThickAsThieves <dexX7> CheckDavid: as said, i'm not really sure how it works. // no one soes
12:03 ThickAsThieves does*
12:04 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves well maybe the traveller dude does,
12:04 mircea_popescu on his better days
12:04 ThickAsThieves mostly people just ooh and ahh at screenshots and possibilities
12:04 ThickAsThieves imagine all teh IPOz!
12:04 ThickAsThieves imagine all the less friction!
12:04 mircea_popescu it still requires you to compile a client and run a server does it ?
12:04 dexX7 i think so
12:05 thestringpuller ThickAsThieves: if porn is the mortar of technology, are video games like the firewood?
12:05 ThickAsThieves no, they are the cumsocks
12:06 * ThickAsThieves doesn't know what that means.
12:06 * asciilifeform neither
12:06 mircea_popescu ;;ud cumsock
12:06 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cumsock | A 'special' sock that is used for 'mopping up' following a 'five knuckle shuffle'. Such footwear have the unusual characteristics of being able to ...
12:06 ozbot Urban Dictionary: cumsock
12:06 thestringpuller YUP
12:06 mircea_popescu apparently people use socks as cum rags ?
12:06 thestringpuller that's what we used to say as kids in middle school
12:06 thestringpuller when you masturbate as a 12 year old yea
12:06 asciilifeform haha i assumed it was a rubber
12:06 ThickAsThieves i never made the word until now
12:07 ThickAsThieves but that was the definition i was going for
12:07 ThickAsThieves masturbatory receptacles
12:08 thestringpuller random: someone needs to invent a gpg based database
12:08 dexX7 http://opentransactions.org/wiki/index.php?title=Messaging ot is something like this
12:08 ozbot Messaging - Open Transactions
12:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 100 @ 0.00466438 = 0.4664 BTC [+] {6}
12:10 mircea_popescu thestringpuller to do what ?
12:13 thestringpuller so if the database is ever compromised for any reason, it won't matter because it requires a specific gpg key to decrypt the rows
12:14 mircea_popescu how is this different from you know, gpg as is ?
12:14 asciilifeform thestringpuller: it is possible to search across encrypted data, for some purposes
12:14 asciilifeform thestringpuller: you were probably thinking of that
12:14 thestringpuller if you fill something like lets say postgres
12:14 thestringpuller or mysql
12:15 thestringpuller and you encrypted all the rows it would take 3-4 times longer for normal operation cause it has to decrypt everytime
12:15 thestringpuller it's not built for it, has to call libcrypt or some bullshit
12:16 mircea_popescu well yeah
12:16 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: perhaps if you stored gpg flatfile and indexed it, then gpg is the bottle neck and not the db trying to decrypt cells...
12:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61199898 BTC [+]
12:17 dexX7 don't encrypt primary keys and you're good to go?
12:17 thestringpuller asciilifeform: are you saying search encrypted data using a hash?
12:17 thestringpuller dexX7: then you can't search a specific column only by PK
12:18 dexX7 ah well, right
12:18 dexX7 but you can't have it both ways, i guess?
12:21 thestringpuller i guess that might work though...if you only have referentials by pk in your queries; once you retreive the column you could deal with decryption...but hmm
12:21 dexX7 https://bitcointalk.org/adrotate.php?adinfo wtf "ponzicoin.co"
12:21 ozbot Ad info
12:21 thestringpuller maybe gpg and relational databases aren't meant to be friends
12:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 63 @ 0.00399962 = 0.252 BTC [+] {3}
12:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24600 @ 0.00087052 = 21.4148 BTC [+]
12:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 21 @ 0.04250001 = 0.8925 BTC [-] {2}
12:33 bitcoinpete Coming in at #3 for a cool 211,000 BTC: Dracula's Castle in Roumania
12:33 bitcoinpete http://www.fascinatingpics.com/7-most-expensive-homes-in-the-world-5/
12:33 ozbot 7 Most Expensive Homes In The World » Fascinating Pics
12:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 87 @ 0.00556246 = 0.4839 BTC [-] {9}
12:36 bitcoinpete And if that's too pricey, this shit is priceless:
12:36 bitcoinpete http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1zxfjg/thank_you_people_of_rbitcoin_your_unique/
12:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.590002 BTC [-]
12:37 bitcoinpete "Thank You people of r/bitcoin! Your unique, sarcastic and exaggerated humour has enabled me to cope with the depression and suicidal thoughts after my financial loss due to MtGox."
12:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 80 @ 0.00583543 = 0.4668 BTC [+] {6}
12:43 dexX7 http://imgur.com/gallery/fjcgUns
12:43 ozbot Come oon just try it - Imgur
12:47 dexX7 http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1zz21j/mtgox_2014_hack_database_revealed_live_from_mark/
12:47 ozbot MTGOX 2014 HACK, DATABASE REVEALED, LIVE FROM MARK KARPELES'S REDDIT ACCOUNT! : Bitcoin
12:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 40 @ 0.04250001 = 1.7 BTC [-]
12:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 20 @ 0.09199989 = 1.84 BTC [+] {3}
12:50 dexX7 no user data, only trade histories etc.
12:51 dexX7 oh wait. and a list with account balances (though without knowing who is who)
12:52 dexX7 and there are some with a negative balance :D
13:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.13311598 BTC [-]
13:16 asciilifeform anybody got the binary turd?
13:19 asciilifeform nm
13:20 dexX7 no .net, ascii extract: http://pastebin.com/VwmbU7cJ
13:21 asciilifeform i'm interested specifically in the trojan payload
13:21 asciilifeform rather than the gox crap
13:22 dexX7 there was once a trojan stealer on btctalk which searched for wallet.dat files and forwarded them via mail - the guy included his mail credentials of his private gmail acc =D
13:31 mircea_popescu "his"
13:32 dexX7 yes, his
13:33 dexX7 turned out it was a 14 yo child who found the stealer on hackforums
13:36 mircea_popescu haha
13:36 mircea_popescu "some local computer shop owner yelled at me over the phone when I asked him to email me a price list, telling me that he would never waste his time on email because it took 20 times longer than a phone call"
13:36 mircea_popescu this is the 80s, back when people using bitcoin i mean email were considered at the very least a little by the guys who generally know everything better
13:36 dexX7 hehe
13:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 28 @ 0.004 = 0.112 BTC [+]
13:38 dexX7 oh well, this 2 bit idiot: http://two-bit-idiot.tumblr.com/post/79070783038/concession "I’m not going to bury the lead; I am not publishing the article tomorrow that I said I was going to on Friday. In fact, I never intended to ..."
13:38 mircea_popescu lol
13:40 asciilifeform loltron chugs on:
13:40 dexX7 vs
13:40 asciilifeform http://cryptome.org/2014-info/andrew-leonard/andrew-leonard.htm
13:40 dexX7 "To the chagrin of the less confrontational, I plan to attack. And in putting my personal and professional reputation on the line, I will attack ruthlessly, from the front, and (figuratively) shoot to kill. By Monday, I expect that either: a) Vessenes and Matonis resign gracefully from the board of the Bitcoin Foundation, ..."
13:41 mircea_popescu lmao @this guy
13:41 mircea_popescu "o i know, brilliant idea : i will try and frontrun mp!11"
13:41 mircea_popescu nobody ever thought of that b4 for sure!
13:44 asciilifeform double-barrelled lol, because since when is throwing somebody's name into a property title spam search engine a proper 'doxing' ?
13:45 mircea_popescu i love all the pretense tho, "my personal and professional reputation" apparently is the new stock phrase of the chump.
13:45 mircea_popescu nobody heard of him, nobody cares of him, he is thus therefore throwing the full weight of that pompous nothing into things!!!111
13:47 dexX7 haha yea
13:47 dexX7 "bitcoin enentrepreneur"
13:49 mircea_popescu anyway. yeah the foundation is going down.
13:49 benkay <mircea_popescu> fuck me, the world is perfect <mircea_popescu> who knew. << alexander pope.
13:49 mircea_popescu that aside, i very much doubt vessy is stepping down to the bitter end.
13:49 mircea_popescu benkay :p
13:55 mircea_popescu quoth mpoe-pr "haha forehead and bitcoininv have channeled their butthurt from me to each other
13:55 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=333851.40
13:55 ozbot [Direct] BTC Growth - Forex Volatility Focus
13:55 mircea_popescu pretty lulzy shit
13:56 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=507799.0 <also the most promising webwallet so far.
13:56 ozbot Kryptowallet.org maby the best Bitcoin Wallet
13:57 mircea_popescu asciilifeform this one you might appreciate https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=507493.0
13:57 mircea_popescu as to the wisdom of not taking pre-orders and generally running a business like a business.
13:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07481999 = 0.1496 BTC [-]
14:00 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: the trezor folks took preorders !?!11!
14:01 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: have people no sense of shame?
14:03 mircea_popescu and the irony here is that the mp of that project is slush
14:03 mircea_popescu who's otherwise quite respectable
14:03 bitcoinpete I can't quite keep up with mircea_popescu's torrential blogging, but that doesn't mean I won't try.
14:03 bitcoinpete http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/citizens-of-fiat-vs-citizens-of-bitcoin-a-contrast/
14:03 ozbot Citizens of Fiat vs. Citizens of Bitcoin: A Contrast | When Bitcoin Met Pete
14:03 mircea_popescu :p
14:03 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: could be that some people are just broke, and this is the only way they can play.
14:03 benkay https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=507493.msg5598474#msg5598474
14:03 ozbot More Pre Order Scams..... (TREZOR)
14:03 mircea_popescu nah, slush is running a large pool, large miner, he's okay.
14:04 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: then this is seriously weird.
14:04 asciilifeform why does he need pre-orders, why not just build the damned gadget
14:04 mircea_popescu dude, if i could explain to you the why of people doing stupid shit...
14:05 mircea_popescu why. cause they think they know better and don't feel the need to ask.
14:05 asciilifeform it's seriously strange when they do it despite not having to
14:05 asciilifeform plus it's a pocket gizmo
14:05 asciilifeform not an aircraft carrier
14:07 asciilifeform single-chip, using a dirt-common micro
14:07 asciilifeform (going by the published pcb mask at any rate)
14:10 mircea_popescu well, bitcoin is filled to the brim with unrealistic motherfuckers
14:10 mircea_popescu people who think that by imagining something they're now the best to make it, people who think wanting really hard can substitute for being really able
14:10 mircea_popescu and so it goes.
14:11 asciilifeform trezor's published code is curiously missing the interesting bits.
14:11 asciilifeform but i'll be surprised if this surprises anyone.
14:12 mircea_popescu i am fully confident it's ignorance rather than some nefarious anything at work
14:12 mircea_popescu slush is czech
14:12 asciilifeform https://github.com/trezor
14:12 asciilifeform what's missing? exercise for alert reader.
14:13 Namworld Gggooooooddd MORNING!
14:14 Namworld http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1zz21j/mtgox_2014_hack_database_revealed_live_from_mark/
14:14 ozbot MTGOX 2014 HACK, DATABASE REVEALED, LIVE FROM MARK KARPELES'S REDDIT ACCOUNT! : Bitcoin
14:14 Namworld It's actually 14:14 but whatever.
14:14 Namworld It does appear to be legit. All accounts and transactions dump.
14:16 Namworld Which means Mark's blog also got hacked, apparently, if that's not Mark faking it.
14:16 Namworld Either way, how much more can you screw up?
14:17 mircea_popescu Namworld dexX7 had it earlier :p
14:17 Namworld Great.
14:17 mircea_popescu "The SEC does not actively monitor this thread, I have two friends that are attorneys for the Commission, and their interns have much better things to do than passive monitoring. "
14:17 mircea_popescu the forum never ends.
14:18 Namworld There's not too many people in here regularly browsing reddit, so sometimes it takes time to get here.
14:19 Namworld They should still have 500k BTC apparently. (400k from 2011 that haven't moved since and some more) for over 900k owed.
14:19 Namworld 400k Mark proved ownership after the 2011 hack.
14:19 dexX7 ah speaking of the sec. did they reach out to you, mp?
14:20 Namworld Looks like they were running fractional since then.
14:23 mircea_popescu dexX7 and to a number of people
14:23 mircea_popescu and yes they do read the forum, tho they only understand about half
14:24 mircea_popescu Namworld isn't it interesting how "since then" and "when mp said" coincide huh.
14:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 29 @ 0.00589773 = 0.171 BTC [+]
14:27 dexX7 well then, tell us more
14:27 dexX7 there is the part missing between "to: ... and yes they"
14:29 mircea_popescu dexX7 hm ?
14:30 dexX7 what did they want, what are the implications etc ;)
14:31 mircea_popescu well that's not particularly clear yet.
14:31 mircea_popescu trying to do their job, i guess.
14:32 dexX7 that's all
14:32 dexX7 ?
14:35 dexX7 i think it's your obligation to be transparent on such incidents. who knows, maybe they have backend access to mpex now :p
14:35 mircea_popescu now that's not possible.
14:48 moiety good eve :)
14:49 Namworld Yes, we know you can spot scam. Now stop bragging about it =P
14:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00589773 = 0.5898 BTC [-]
14:52 thestringpuller dexX7: I'm pretty sure mircea_popescu has female assassin ninjas guarding the mpex keyring
14:53 dexX7 sssh shh i want to hear teh sec gossip
14:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.04250011 = 0.1275 BTC [-] {2}
14:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 33 @ 0.04250001 = 1.4025 BTC [-]
14:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.09224995 = 0.1845 BTC [+] {2}
14:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.09325 = 0.1865 BTC [+] {2}
14:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.0941 = 0.4705 BTC [+] {3}
14:59 mircea_popescu Namworld never :D
15:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.09499998 = 0.57 BTC [+] {2}
15:02 dexX7 http://www.ecommercebytes.com/C/abblog/blog.pl?/pl/2014/3/1394372710.html
15:02 ozbot eBay Files Patent Application for Bitcoin Currency Exchanger
15:02 thestringpuller mircea_popescu random thought: i wonder if the halt in options trading on MPEX will result in a lot of people flocking to ICBIT...kind of a scary thought...
15:03 dexX7 what was the reason to halt option trading?
15:03 thestringpuller ;;google site: trilema.com february 2014 mpoe
15:03 gribble MPOE, February 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: <http://trilema.com/2014/mpoe-february-2014-statement/>; MPOE, January 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: <http://trilema.com/2014/mpoe-january-2014-statement/>; MPOE, December 2013 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: <http://trilema.com/2013/mpoe-december-2013-statement/>
15:04 dexX7 ty
15:04 thestringpuller np
15:07 KRS-One i still can't believe this is happening... mtgox hacked.. all leaked.. karpeles blog, his reddit account
15:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00086941 = 2.956 BTC [-]
15:08 dexX7 well, it's a probably a good thing to get rid of the weak elements
15:12 mircea_popescu let the record reflect that i'm working on a foot long baba ghanoush sub
15:12 peterl I've never used ICBIT, is it any good?
15:13 mircea_popescu thestringpuller i doubt there's much overlap in demographics.
15:13 mircea_popescu peterl no.
15:13 punkman even Dr Greg doesn't want to use them anymore
15:13 mircea_popescu see the earlier linked misadventure of dr foreskin on the topic
15:14 peterl how did he get the name Dr. Foreskin? Or do I want to know?
15:14 mircea_popescu KRS-One in his position, leaking his pws is actulaly a rational, +ev move
15:14 mircea_popescu peterl well it's a combination of things. he looks kind-of weird, and behaves like a negligible quantity
15:14 mircea_popescu which in romanian is pielea pulii ie, foreskin
15:15 mircea_popescu actually i think that works in russian too
15:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.13311598 BTC [-]
15:19 Diablo-D3 http://blog.magicaltux.net/2014/03/09/mtgox-2014-hack-database-revealed-live-from-mark-karpeless-reddit-account/
15:19 ozbot MTGOX 2014 HACK, DATABASE REVEALED, LIVE FROM MARK KARPELES’S REDDIT ACCOUNT! « MagicalTux in Ja
15:19 mircea_popescu that's the 3rd.
15:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 24 @ 0.04250001 = 1.02 BTC [-]
15:21 dexX7 kinda interesting though that the block entry is still online
15:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 70 @ 0.00589773 = 0.4128 BTC [-]
15:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 53 @ 0.0425 = 2.2525 BTC [-] {3}
15:23 Namworld Don't forget that MtGox's API published transactions as close as this morning, Diablo-D3.
15:23 Namworld MtGox still has and is moving large amounts of Bitcoins.
15:24 peterl from the dr. greg thread "the approach continues to offer guaranteed profit up until a roughly 350% gain " he lost money but still thinks his strategy should have huge returns?
15:25 Namworld Mark will now say it's not him but the hackers who just released the info. He might be the thief and the releaser of info.
15:25 Namworld Dr. Greg thread? What?
15:25 peterl https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=333851.msg5584789#msg5584789
15:25 Namworld Pirates, okay, but I didn't know there was Ponzi doctors too.
15:25 ozbot [Direct] BTC Growth - Forex Volatility Focus
15:26 peterl MPOE-PR ripped him pretty good, but he still thinks he beat her with his wall of words
15:26 dexX7 he also reads the channel logs to see, if someone is saying something mean about him
15:27 benkay peterl: it's not his strategy that's wrong, it's his implementation details. like icbit.
15:27 peterl oops, now he is going to target me!
15:28 benkay this is much like asciilifeform's refrain about "trusted computing" on top of compromised hardware. all the proofs in the world won't save you from bad hardware in the memory stack, and all the quant kabbalah in the world won't make you money on non-functional options exchanges.
15:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 676 @ 0.0001819 = 0.123 BTC [-] {2}
15:29 dexX7 peterl: no joke, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=283947.msg3649693#msg3649693 "Maybe it was a different user named 'dexX7' who was hobnobbing with TAT, Mircea Popescu and others on IRC ..."
15:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.07483062 = 0.449 BTC [+] {3}
15:30 Duffer1 i wish he would hang out in here more
15:31 peterl maybe he is here under a different name?
15:32 Duffer1 oh could be
15:32 benkay probly reads the logs but can't extemporize.
15:34 peterl hard to put a good wall of text up on IRC
15:34 benkay brevity, wit, etc.
15:34 Duffer1 is easy
15:35 Duffer1 make blog, post link
15:35 Duffer1 doesn't Dr.G have a blog already?
15:35 moiety he really does look phallic shoulders up....
15:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 26 @ 0.00589773 = 0.1533 BTC [-]
15:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07485221 = 0.2246 BTC [+]
15:40 mircea_popescu peterl guy is strange.
15:40 mircea_popescu <Namworld> Mark will now say it's not him but the hackers who just released the info. He might be the thief and the releaser of info. << hence the "Rational, +EV move" comment earlier.
15:42 mircea_popescu dexX7 lol we're the empire of evil nao ?
15:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1849 @ 0.00018399 = 0.3402 BTC [+] {8}
15:42 dexX7 yea, i guess
15:42 mircea_popescu o look it's a moiety. how goes missy ?
15:44 mircea_popescu anyway, if the guy's reading the logs that's not so bad, first step on the road to sanity.
15:44 mircea_popescu before you know it he'll be going "i stake my professional reputation !!eleven behind making this thing i read on trilema two weeks ago happen!" like that other douche
15:44 mircea_popescu after which hopefully he's cured
15:44 mircea_popescu unless they manage to invent some further pathology down the way
15:45 moiety I'm well ty mircea_popescu :) had some interesting times past couple days. how are you?
15:45 mircea_popescu im stuffed.
15:45 moiety with?
15:46 moiety i need to food actually
15:47 moiety had dinner with satoshi but he doesn't say much
15:48 mircea_popescu footlong baba ghanoush sub
15:48 mircea_popescu "In retrospect, it's quite funny how some of the folks laughed at those selling ASICMiner to buy into BTC Growth, given that at the end of the day, those who adopted exactly that strategy wound up with roughly 275% as much money in their accounts than those who stuck with the former darling of the mining world."
15:48 mircea_popescu this usagi bs ?!
15:49 Diablo-D3 usagi is still around?
15:49 Diablo-D3 I thought he ragequit
15:49 mircea_popescu asicminer went from 5 to .5, so therefore my deadbeat "investment" which went from 1 to .3 in the interval
15:49 mircea_popescu would have assured "investors" "make roi and then some" or what was the expression
15:49 mircea_popescu Diablo-D3 he comes and goes.
15:50 mircea_popescu no bitcoin ragequit lasts.
15:50 Diablo-D3 I noticed he quit bothering me
15:50 Diablo-D3 surprised he isnt trying to invest in my newest venture or some shit
15:51 benkay overheard in my household this morning "paycheck and a buttplug! the only grocery list you'll ever need."
15:52 Diablo-D3 ...
15:53 moiety i wondered wherehe disappeared to
15:53 moiety he might have found benkays shopping list....
15:53 mircea_popescu lol
15:53 benkay it's not my shopping list - i don't do the shopping, moiety.
15:53 mircea_popescu i think he spends some time as a princess in a special happy place
15:54 mircea_popescu of the sort uppity tortilla rest sin
15:54 mircea_popescu dexX7 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=283947.msg3650952#msg3650952 how come i have not that log ?
15:55 dexX7 it's legit, names edited and a few lines removed though
15:55 mircea_popescu can you link to log ?
15:56 dexX7 hmm let me look
15:56 dexX7 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-08-2013&bots=true#233753
15:56 ozbot #bitcoin-assets log
15:56 mircea_popescu and you know, if you quote a log include a date, a link, something.
15:56 dexX7 part 2: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-08-2013&bots=true#234572
15:57 dexX7 my intent wasn't to share the content of the log
15:57 dexX7 thus no link to the log
15:58 mircea_popescu a so im not actually in there/saying anything
15:58 mircea_popescu that's what threw me, cause i had no recollection of the entire thing
16:00 dexX7 well, you're the incarnation of teh evil anyway :D
16:00 mircea_popescu oic
16:00 mircea_popescu well, so did anyone actually bother to track this BTC-GROWTH marvel ?
16:01 mircea_popescu a actually btct, should be in the logs
16:02 mircea_popescu Apr 13 11:00:40 <`MBot>[ GLBSE ] [ TRADE ] [ TYGRR-BOT ] [ 2 x 0.99999 = 1.999980 BTC ]
16:02 mircea_popescu Apr 13 11:01:55 <`MBot>[ GLBSE ] [ TRADE ] [ TYGRR-BOT ] [ 98 x 1.0 = 98.000000 BTC ]
16:02 mircea_popescu dude, old logs!
16:02 mircea_popescu (that's apr 13 2012, ftr)
16:02 peterl I think it was all privately done, so there is no way to actually track what he says
16:02 mircea_popescu peterl he claims he got 2k btc on btct
16:03 mircea_popescu so what was the ticker, anyoe know that ?
16:03 dexX7 http://coinflow.co/chart/BTC-GROWTH
16:03 ozbot BTC-GROWTH on Coinflow
16:04 dexX7 i think he indeed sold quite a few shares
16:04 dexX7 several hundred btc worth
16:05 mircea_popescu aha
16:05 dexX7 ;;calc 1294*0.1
16:05 gribble 129.4
16:05 dexX7 well
16:05 dexX7 ^
16:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.0424 = 0.424 BTC [-]
16:06 mircea_popescu http://dpaste.com/1707934/
16:07 ozbot dpaste: #1707934
16:07 mircea_popescu that's the first hour.
16:07 mircea_popescu there's no 2k there, more like 2-300 btc
16:07 benkay the rest was privately placed!
16:07 benkay gosh.
16:08 peterl "privately placed" does that mean "I just made up whatever numbers I want"?
16:09 benkay that is an implication
16:09 Namworld I'm about 175 BTC in debt and I'm richer than him still.
16:09 mircea_popescu the zinger being, of course, "Aug 15 15:49:39 <parseval>This guy is charging 2% of assets annually plus 20% of profits for management fees"
16:09 mircea_popescu that's some fund o.O
16:09 Namworld Big fees.
16:10 dexX7 well, such a fee level is at least motivating the issuer to perform well
16:11 mircea_popescu lolk
16:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.095 = 0.285 BTC [+]
16:11 mircea_popescu normally i'd say "i wish to meet that elated 1% of bitcoin financiers which actually make 2% a year", but i think i already have.
16:12 mircea_popescu anyway, parity didn't hold up long :
16:12 mircea_popescu Aug 15 18:44:58 <assbot>[BTCTC] [BTC-GROWTH] 2 @ 0.09801 = 0.196 BTC [-]
16:12 mircea_popescu Aug 15 18:44:59 <assbot>[BTCTC] [BTC-GROWTH] 96 @ 0.098 = 9.408 BTC [-]
16:13 mircea_popescu Sep 21 01:55:33 <assbot>[BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GROWTH] 2 @ 0.09612 = 0.1922 BTC [-]
16:14 mircea_popescu Sep 21 03:21:59 <assbot>[BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GROWTH] 50 @ 0.09594299 = 4.7971 BTC [-] {5}
16:14 mircea_popescu Oct 06 15:25:37 <assbot>[BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GROWTH] 10 @ 0.08 = 0.8 BTC [-]
16:14 mircea_popescu Oct 08 18:07:10 <assbot>[BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GROWTH] 7 @ 0.083 = 0.581 BTC [+]
16:14 mircea_popescu Oct 08 18:08:11 <assbot>[BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GROWTH] 14 @ 0.083 = 1.162 BTC [+]
16:14 mircea_popescu and with that the story ends.
16:14 mircea_popescu -17% on assets, -22% on fees, half your money back in half a year.
16:15 Namworld Considering the first thing I did was lend over 700 BTC to a GPU miner thinking it was just 7 grand and the current price per BTC, I'm not close of having positive earnings on average per year.
16:15 mircea_popescu you still in the hole with giga/amazingrando huh
16:15 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
16:16 dexX7 labcoin was a more exciting way to lose money
16:16 Namworld Although I definitly made some money afterward.
16:16 Namworld Well i started with 900 BTC in early 2012. Lost most. Definitly don't have that much.
16:17 Namworld I might be close to achieving that back tho.
16:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 250 @ 0.00589773 = 1.4744 BTC [-]
16:17 mircea_popescu well gl.
16:27 Namworld It's been rough, especially with the 15 -> 1200 run in 2013. How is one supposed to beat 100x returns on just holding through investing?
16:27 peterl invest in S.MPOE?
16:27 mircea_popescu no because that's like scientology.
16:28 mircea_popescu Jan 12 23:14:43 <assbot>[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3293 @ 0.0006592 = 2.1707 BTC [+]
16:28 Namworld I had to help with BitVPS which RG just abandoned like that. Buy servers and everything. Stuff like that. Losses vs just holding.
16:28 mircea_popescu ;;calc ( 0.00087052- 0.0006592)/ 0.0006592
16:28 gribble 0.32057038835
16:29 peterl which we are grateful you saved that for us
16:29 mircea_popescu o hey, 32%.
16:29 peterl psh, only 32% that is nowhere near 100x!
16:29 Namworld Arij helped a lot too.
16:29 Namworld We both missed a ton on the BTC rate increase.
16:29 mircea_popescu peterl well technically, it's at least > 9000x zero
16:30 Namworld It's 32% in BTC. So 1.32 x 100
16:30 peterl right, this is btc accounting instead of Usagi accounting
16:30 Namworld 132x value in fiat. It was better than holding BTC.
16:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24358 @ 0.00086874 = 21.1608 BTC [-] {2}
16:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 22 @ 0.07485302 = 1.6468 BTC [+] {3}
16:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 73 @ 0.0433452 = 3.1642 BTC [+] {3}
16:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0434395 = 0.1738 BTC [+] {2}
16:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 187 @ 0.00404842 = 0.7571 BTC [-] {2}
16:40 mircea_popescu Namworld it also doesn't count dividends.
16:47 Namworld oh, that too.
16:48 Namworld Someone should calculate that.
16:49 moiety someone sent r3wt to me yesterday :/
16:56 Namworld For what?
17:04 moiety i think to check to see if i can contact TF
17:04 moiety he was voicing faux concern
17:06 moiety i hadnt realised openex was hacked a fortnight ago
17:07 mircea_popescu ya
17:08 moiety but then neither did he for a while
17:11 moiety i get probed every now and then, i guess its to be expected
17:16 thestringpuller topace: unlock my account
17:18 moiety http://i.imgur.com/I9XgLMN.jpg honesty the best policy?!
17:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 190 @ 0.00589773 = 1.1206 BTC [-]
17:32 mircea_popescu moiety http://24.media.tumblr.com/1a88c2b550b2750929342bef44551e7a/tumblr_myaf6dYk1f1rq17hmo1_1280.jpg
17:32 mircea_popescu lies!
17:35 thestringpuller .bait
17:35 moiety lolol mircea_popescu but why does she look so angry? 1) she must get LOADS of tips and 2) this one is inside! she should be happier!
17:39 mircea_popescu hehe good points
17:40 mircea_popescu http://24.media.tumblr.com/b21c1fbb69b3b3e6bd39c59f4279e106/tumblr_mz1p5m1UDV1rwxb4zo1_250.gif definitely beats sandra.
17:40 jurov lol again czech menu on the blackboard
17:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 4 @ 0.13311598 = 0.5325 BTC [-]
17:54 moiety she, however, does not look happy to be outside
17:54 Neil ;;prevdiffchange
17:55 gribble 21.92473
17:55 moiety i found bingo's spiritual dog http://metro.co.uk/2014/03/09/hair-of-the-dog-miracle-vodka-cure-saves-puppy-from-certain-death-4494150/
17:56 moiety had to get drunk on vodka to live
18:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [MS] 32 @ 0.004 = 0.128 BTC [-] {2}
18:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 4 @ 0.05479999 = 0.2192 BTC [+] {2}
18:15 assbot [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 118 @ 0.00205964 = 0.243 BTC [-]
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18:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 60 @ 0.00404846 = 0.2429 BTC [-]
18:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14200 @ 0.00086879 = 12.3368 BTC [+]
18:48 nubbins` hi
18:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 25 @ 0.00405001 = 0.1013 BTC [+]
18:58 mircea_popescu hey n
19:04 kakobrekla ><Enky> http://images.dailytech.com/nimage/Karpeles_Weird_Hats_2005_and_2006_Wide.png
19:04 kakobrekla seems this wasnt here yet
19:05 nubbins` he's got a purdy mouth
19:05 dub wat
19:05 nubbins` lel
19:05 * nubbins` says what other men dare not think
19:06 kakobrekla could be shopped
19:06 kakobrekla i dont see bouncy balls
19:13 moiety quite possibly the best hats in bitcoin
19:14 dexX7 lol these pictures are priceless: http://www.dailytech.com/Bitcoin+King+Pt+II+Mt+Goxs+Dictator+Karpels+Proves+Tragically+Flawed/article34452.htm
19:14 dexX7 http://images.dailytech.com/nimage/Karpeles_Samurai_Sept_2010.png
19:15 moiety lmao at the meh hoodie - it's suits his face
19:15 moiety it*
19:16 wao-ender c'mon php.. https://eval.in/108854
19:19 dexX7 fixed: https://eval.in/116675
19:21 wao-ender === ?!
19:21 wao-ender what the heck
19:22 dexX7 yea something php specific
19:22 dexX7 but i was curious, this one gives a good explaination: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/22140204/why-md5240610708-is-equal-to-md5qnkcdzo
19:28 kakobrekla fuck thats a long article
~ 16 minutes ~
19:44 dub long and pointless
19:45 dub all the personality treatise can be reduced to : he is french
19:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40572 @ 0.00086907 = 35.2599 BTC [+] {2}
19:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 34 @ 0.07300003 = 2.482 BTC [-] {4}
19:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.07311051 = 0.658 BTC [+] {4}
19:55 kakobrekla no DUB HE IS JAPANEROS
19:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6 BTC [+]
20:01 dexX7 http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1zzzq0/ponzicoin_operator_steals_money_investors_get/ d'oh
20:01 ozbot Ponzicoin operator steals money; investors get upset : Bitcoin
20:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.13311598 BTC [-]
20:24 mircea_popescu who's french ?
20:26 dexX7 karpeles
20:28 mircea_popescu i thought he was romanian
20:30 dexX7 idk
20:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 697 @ 0.0041674 = 2.9047 BTC [+] {10}
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21:04 dub now now mp, .ro can't claim all the fraudsters
21:06 dub this should be good
21:12 moiety karpeles is french and jewish apparently
21:12 mircea_popescu wasn't he like rescued from a romanian orphanage by some french ppls ?
21:13 mircea_popescu i recall reading that story somewhere
21:13 moiety wiki has him born in france
21:13 moiety i want to add an animal hat pic to his wiki
~ 36 minutes ~
21:50 KRS-One ;;seen vexual
21:50 gribble vexual was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 4 days, 2 hours, 34 minutes, and 21 seconds ago: <Vexual> lasers in the eye is never good tat
21:50 KRS-One where the fuck has that cunt been
21:50 KRS-One .bait
21:50 ozbot http://25.media.tumblr.com/25a8175dbf4305358b3f24e35f4e1567/tumblr_mjghninqsh1rzucwho1_500.jpg
21:50 KRS-One titteh
21:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 850 @ 0.00018723 = 0.1591 BTC [-] {2}
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22:24 B007 .bait
22:24 ozbot http://24.media.tumblr.com/1821cf23b8b70d761a13a2a7ea999e93/tumblr_mn1egziJZ31s6r7huo1_1280.jpg
~ 19 minutes ~
22:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 4 @ 0.11829832 = 0.4732 BTC [+] {3}
22:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.59098333 = 3.5459 BTC [-] {3}
22:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 93 @ 0.0039851 = 0.3706 BTC [-] {2}
22:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.07753482 = 0.4652 BTC [-] {3}
22:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 159 @ 0.00383052 = 0.6091 BTC [-] {7}
22:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 38 @ 0.00385 = 0.1463 BTC [+]
23:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3350 @ 0.00086879 = 2.9104 BTC [-]
23:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 247 @ 0.00377606 = 0.9327 BTC [-] {5}
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23:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.0424 = 0.2544 BTC [-]
23:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 29 @ 0.00589769 = 0.171 BTC [+] {3}
23:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6750 @ 0.00086911 = 5.8665 BTC [+]
23:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26164 @ 0.00086918 = 22.7412 BTC [+] {2}
23:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 18 @ 0.0058977 = 0.1062 BTC [+]
23:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38748 @ 0.00086851 = 33.653 BTC [-] {3}
23:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.07786843 = 1.2459 BTC [+] {4}
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