00:02 |
danielpbarron |
BingoBoingo, https://archive.is/Dwif0#selection-129.405-129.410 << should be "giving" ? |
00:02 |
assbot |
Hulk Hogan Puts Denton's Control of Gawker Media on Life Support | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1CcBiNM ) |
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00:43 |
mats |
https://www.nowsecure.com/blog/2015/06/16/remote-code-execution-as-system-user-on-samsung-phones |
00:43 |
assbot |
Remote Code Execution as System User on Samsung Phones | NowSecure Blogs ... ( http://bit.ly/1GY05fK ) |
00:44 |
mats |
har |
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01:08 |
mircea_popescu |
"The only great material difference between Gawker's lines on the fappening and their publication of Bollea's tape is that while photos during the fappening were released in a decentralized manner, Gawker got to publish the Hulk Hogan sex tape first. " |
01:08 |
mircea_popescu |
heh. got 'em. |
01:14 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30975 @ 0.00041523 = 12.8617 BTC [-] {2} |
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01:32 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25103 @ 0.00041903 = 10.5189 BTC [+] |
01:38 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64200 @ 0.00041344 = 26.5428 BTC [-] {2} |
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02:12 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28527 @ 0.00041149 = 11.7386 BTC [-] {2} |
02:17 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24873 @ 0.00040954 = 10.1865 BTC [-] |
02:31 |
cazalla |
well au signed a free trade agreement with choina today.. PM thinks we should be happy we get cheap shit from china even cheaper now or something |
02:32 |
cazalla |
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-06-17/australia-and-china-sign-free-trade-agreement/6552940 |
02:32 |
assbot |
Australia and China sign 'history making' free trade agreement after a decade of negotiations - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) ... ( http://bit.ly/1GdPUx4 ) |
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03:19 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20300 @ 0.00042685 = 8.6651 BTC [+] |
03:28 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00041132 = 5.5528 BTC [-] |
03:31 |
mats |
https://github.com/benjamingr/favicon-bug |
03:31 |
assbot |
benjamingr/favicon-bug · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1GYcPDo ) |
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04:24 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla it's no alternative sort of deal. the "us in south china sea" story is coming to an end this decade. |
04:29 |
mats |
usg is notoriously stubborn so please share intel with the class |
04:31 |
mircea_popescu |
no usable jet, not like carriers would be usable even if they had a jet, no money to back it all up with anyway even if they had a miracle cure for rocketry, and no brains to work the entire thing even if money were somehow to be found, as it's always found when there's brains involved. |
04:31 |
cazalla |
mircea_popescu, i'll hold you to that! |
04:31 |
mircea_popescu |
nothing too secret bout it. |
04:34 |
mircea_popescu |
next us president whoever is gonna be is going to discover a sudden fondness for russia and "move past previous difficulties", and the transition's complete : washington is now a sort of germany, in charge of a large rust bucket that doesn't much care for it. |
04:34 |
mats |
i dun see it |
04:35 |
mircea_popescu |
but you do see where it says us gdp < euro gdp yes ? |
04:36 |
mats |
usg has the next best thing to a naval base in south china sea |
04:36 |
mats |
the philippines |
04:36 |
mircea_popescu |
anything the us has is there for the taking. |
04:37 |
mircea_popescu |
were the philippines in the beijing accord btw ? |
04:39 |
mats |
im not sure what you're specifically referring to |
04:39 |
mircea_popescu |
Noynoy Aquino said that the Philippines is still considering to join AIIB. "We have not indicated that we are ready to join also. We are actually at the stage of studying the proposal to join this particular new entity." |
04:39 |
mircea_popescu |
that. |
04:40 |
mircea_popescu |
whore be milking the gringo for all he's got. |
04:40 |
mats |
oh, AIIB |
04:41 |
mircea_popescu |
japan was also considering it but then... somehow they changed their mind. |
04:41 |
cazalla |
well if it all goes to shit.. might finally find out what the yanks have been doing at pine gap all these years |
04:42 |
mircea_popescu |
eh, you might discover that chinese honeymoon much more pleasant than usg dregs. |
04:42 |
mircea_popescu |
it'll suck when your kids come of age, not next decade. |
04:43 |
mats |
i am pretty curious to see what happens to china over the next century |
04:43 |
mats |
the one child policy has serious cultural ramifications |
04:44 |
mats |
chinese females are predictably holding out longer and raising their standards, but thats still a lot of extinct lines |
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04:44 |
mircea_popescu |
you got women don't ya ? |
04:45 |
cazalla |
alotta chinese women with aussie men these days |
04:45 |
mats |
this predicament is why i have no sympathy for all the SJW whiners in USA |
04:45 |
mats |
folks have no sense of scale |
04:45 |
mats |
imagine being a chinese male with no prospects |
04:45 |
mats |
(you can't) |
04:45 |
mircea_popescu |
back in 1992 all ukrainian girls were dancing in leipzig. |
04:46 |
mircea_popescu |
give it a little, all ohio girls be dancin' in shanghai |
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04:46 |
cazalla |
yellow man, white pussy, big $$$ |
04:46 |
mircea_popescu |
best swindle ever. |
04:46 |
mircea_popescu |
recently the airlines managed to lose more money than was made in the history of flight. |
04:47 |
mircea_popescu |
meanwhile prostitution... i suspect whores are going to make more money this century than total up to date. |
04:47 |
mats |
how did they manage to do that after making 3x usu profits because cost of fuel going down? |
04:47 |
mircea_popescu |
this was 2000-2010 |
04:48 |
mats |
my understanding is that operating an airline has always been a losing proposition |
04:48 |
mircea_popescu |
ayway, whoredom's gonna be great business. the chinese bezzle looks like it's going to be this, a lot of small yellow beta males swarmin' around. except they won't try to go to college and get a mortgage to please the old folks. |
04:49 |
mircea_popescu |
they'll just carry dept to stick coins in the stereoscopic machine with the girl taking her pants off |
04:49 |
cazalla |
airline industry is aus is pretty bad, so bad that QANTAS has a debt guarantee from the government |
04:49 |
mats |
IIRC US-based airlines have consistently reported 1% or 0 profit since being privatized |
04:49 |
mats |
hedging against cost of fuel is a bitch |
04:50 |
mircea_popescu |
even train traverl was aspirational at some point |
04:50 |
mircea_popescu |
and railroads raked it in |
04:51 |
mircea_popescu |
and re the "imagine being a drone"... why do you think it's so impossible to imagine ? |
04:52 |
mircea_popescu |
in any case : the best thing that could happen is for a whole lot of lines to go extinct. like... most of them, really. |
05:00 |
mats |
its a dramatically different thing to be a white WalMart greeter |
05:01 |
mircea_popescu |
sure |
05:01 |
mats |
than it is to be a manual laborer for Wu Gang's Mining Emporium |
05:01 |
mircea_popescu |
more like a freeranged cow for wu gang's organic organ growth farm. |
05:02 |
mircea_popescu |
plenty western fixations the chinese do not share. |
05:03 |
mats |
the cultural context is entirely different, and whether its true or not, |
05:03 |
mats |
there's a lot more implicit potential social mobility involved in being a white dude in us |
05:04 |
mircea_popescu |
social mobility is a nice way to say it. the other way to say it is "swimming in a shitswamp" |
05:04 |
mircea_popescu |
as empirically observed, there's not any cause or any way to build anything in a swamp. |
05:04 |
mircea_popescu |
and everything stinks |
05:04 |
mats |
whereas, if you're a chinese dude, |
05:05 |
mats |
literally 1 in 4 dudes you meet will never procreate |
05:05 |
mats |
sucks to suck |
05:05 |
mircea_popescu |
i had no idea having kids is the summum bonum |
05:05 |
mircea_popescu |
when did that happen ? |
05:07 |
chetty |
only in Amerika can you just decide to be black even if you skin is white |
05:07 |
cazalla |
mats, are you asian? |
05:07 |
mats |
yes |
05:08 |
cazalla |
plenty of white people aren't procreating either, different reasons though (career women) |
05:09 |
cazalla |
there's what.. a billion or more chinese? i think they're good numbers wise |
05:10 |
mircea_popescu |
numbers really are worthless. |
05:10 |
mircea_popescu |
used to be, for most of human history, numbers mattered. |
05:10 |
mircea_popescu |
they don't, now. |
05:10 |
cazalla |
why's that? |
05:10 |
chetty |
it still takes 2 to tango |
05:10 |
mircea_popescu |
only thing another hundred twerps does for you is more inane demands. |
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05:11 |
cazalla |
so we're at the point we're it's sorta like bezzle but for people? |
05:11 |
mircea_popescu |
yep. |
05:11 |
mircea_popescu |
originally, people pinned women down and stuck it in them because the kids cost nothing, either fed themselves off offal or died, and then could be used, for purposes. |
05:12 |
mircea_popescu |
then, steam power replaced muscle power, and people started playing talent lottery. |
05:12 |
cazalla |
well i must say, it comes to a shock that i have been printing bezzle |
05:12 |
cazalla |
as a shock even |
05:12 |
mircea_popescu |
one million schmucks had to kill themselves raising kids in new jersey so there could be a miss new jersey on television |
05:12 |
mircea_popescu |
nobody gives a shit about rockstars and genius scientists now. |
05:12 |
mircea_popescu |
consequently... really, no further point. if tomorrow you wake up and there's not ten billion people but ten thousand, there won't be a notable difference. |
05:13 |
mircea_popescu |
minus, of course, your not being there to notice. |
05:13 |
cazalla |
could be if the remaining 9,999 are all women :P |
05:13 |
mircea_popescu |
prolly about 6k of em |
05:14 |
mats |
i don't care about reproduction, but there is the issue of those others |
05:15 |
chetty |
would be noticeable when stuff starts breaking down |
05:15 |
cazalla |
mats, maybe they don't care either? |
05:15 |
mats |
i suppose the tentative plan is to recolonize oceania and us |
05:15 |
mats |
pretty hard to ignore biological imperatives, cazalla |
05:15 |
mats |
even when you enjoy the taste of cock |
05:15 |
cazalla |
well if/when america topples over, down under is shit out of luck, chinese will come flooding out of the water and on to the land |
05:16 |
cazalla |
and i can't imagine the chinese men will have much mercy for the aussie men banging their chinese-australian women |
05:17 |
cazalla |
mats, i doubt they do ignore them which is why pornotubes are the top sites |
05:17 |
mircea_popescu |
who knows, maybe they pay to watch |
05:18 |
cazalla |
pay in what? dollars? doubtful, iron ore? chinese own it all already |
05:21 |
mircea_popescu |
uniques lol |
05:25 |
cazalla |
meh chinese farmed em already |
05:29 |
mats |
the problem i'm faced with now is where to flee |
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05:29 |
mircea_popescu |
actually there's a decent sf story in there, title it something like "986" |
05:30 |
mircea_popescu |
the premise being that in that future of barely a thousand people, you don't really need names, and moreover, you can trivially ennumerate the list of everyone |
05:30 |
mircea_popescu |
mats what's wrong with china ? |
05:30 |
mats |
clean air, water, and food |
05:30 |
mircea_popescu |
ah |
05:30 |
mircea_popescu |
large country, they cvouldn't have fuxcked up all of it |
05:30 |
cazalla |
copypaste is this a troll? UNHCR begging for donations for nigerians on 8chan? http://i.imgur.com/jVE61J7.png |
05:30 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1Fm0PnN ) |
05:31 |
cazalla |
mats, i know a place |
05:31 |
mats |
is it in australia |
05:31 |
cazalla |
lord howe island |
05:32 |
mircea_popescu |
lmao check out that stupid shit. |
05:32 |
mircea_popescu |
!rated copypaste |
05:32 |
assbot |
You rated user copypaste on 13-May-2015, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: Confirmed for the ever-awesome HotWheels.. |
05:32 |
mircea_popescu |
!unrate |
05:32 |
assbot |
Need a name to unrate. |
05:32 |
mircea_popescu |
!unrated copypaste |
05:32 |
mircea_popescu |
grr |
05:32 |
mircea_popescu |
!unrate copypaste |
05:32 |
assbot |
Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/f56343150bba7ee3 |
05:33 |
mircea_popescu |
!v assbot:mircea_popescu.unrate.copypaste:2bd02a9ac3a3cd436d7b467d745f289dd238048e035914ca9ab25c2fea40d2d5 |
05:33 |
assbot |
Successfully unrated copypaste |
05:33 |
mats |
that escalated quickly |
05:34 |
mircea_popescu |
this is exactly like that one time when the alzheimer dude or w/e his name is wouldn't work with me then partnered up with keiser and started an ever-lulzy kickstarter that got together fiddy bucks and they're neither goinmg to ever mention again, because hey, internet, it's how it works. |
05:34 |
mircea_popescu |
but EXACTLY. |
05:34 |
cazalla |
weev |
05:34 |
mircea_popescu |
there's yer ever-vaunted "social mobility", mats. the nonsensical premise that people should be in charge of their own life and make their own decisions. pure poison for everyone. |
05:37 |
cazalla |
copypaste, did the AFP or any other coppers from down under contact you regarding those adelaide nude girl pics? (context - http://www.dailylife.com.au/dl-people/nude-photos-of-australian-women-shared-on-us-porn-site-20150617-ghpw5q.html) |
05:37 |
assbot |
Daily Life 404 Page ... ( http://bit.ly/1KYqxWE ) |
05:37 |
copypaste |
no |
05:37 |
copypaste |
also regarding that ad, i assume the japanese just put up an ad network |
05:37 |
copypaste |
i think it's yahoo! ads but i'm not sure |
05:37 |
copypaste |
i certainly didn't get a list of ads to approve |
05:37 |
copypaste |
it's probably geotargetted as well, as it mentions australia |
05:39 |
cazalla |
prob cause i was looking up nat geo african titties earlier |
05:39 |
copypaste |
for example here's the ad i see https://0x0.st/vc.png |
05:39 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1KYqYAh ) |
05:39 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21300 @ 0.00042159 = 8.9799 BTC [+] |
05:39 |
copypaste |
i can't even read that shit |
05:40 |
copypaste |
10000 yen / month for something or other |
05:40 |
copypaste |
i can read the important part :^) |
05:41 |
copypaste |
but anyway mircea_popescu not sure why you're mad. We agreed to one month. The month ended, things went back to how they were before. |
05:41 |
copypaste |
I converted what I was given by you and paid $250 to them already. |
05:42 |
mircea_popescu |
i'm not mad dude. |
05:42 |
copypaste |
(That doesn't cover close to our bandwidth bills, we served 200TB last month, around $2K...) |
05:42 |
copypaste |
(So I assume that was absorbed, or written off, or they hope to make it back somehow [somehow indeed]) |
05:43 |
mircea_popescu |
things just went back to how they were before. |
05:43 |
cazalla |
damn copypaste, this shit is gonna be all over the media here |
05:44 |
copypaste |
You live in Aus? Unfortunate |
05:44 |
copypaste |
They've got some real out there laws. |
05:44 |
copypaste |
Did you know they readily admit to forcing ISPs to capture all data that leaves the country |
05:44 |
copypaste |
Hell, even that which stays within the country |
05:44 |
cazalla |
yeah i know :\ |
05:45 |
cazalla |
but tbh, they've prob been doing it for much longer than they admit anyway |
05:45 |
cazalla |
data retention supposedly lasts 2 years but more likely forevar or until their hdds are full |
05:46 |
copypaste |
well in the US at least |
05:47 |
copypaste |
they do it |
05:47 |
copypaste |
oh sure they do it. but they can't admit to it |
05:47 |
copypaste |
so they have to at least attempt parallel construction |
05:47 |
cazalla |
i half expect to see your face on tv and in newspapers here in the next few days |
05:48 |
copypaste |
i suppose i'll never be headed to australia then |
05:48 |
copypaste |
humorous |
05:48 |
cazalla |
well if it's in the adelaide NOW, it'll likely run in the others |
05:48 |
copypaste |
the site where most of the sharing is happening is actually volafile.io |
05:48 |
copypaste |
i see cazalla |
05:48 |
copypaste |
i think they are attempting not to mention me and 8ch |
05:49 |
copypaste |
because they dont; want people to find it so easily. |
05:49 |
cazalla |
i don't see the big deal tbh, australian school girls have always been huge moles |
05:50 |
mats |
;;ud mole |
05:50 |
cazalla |
agriculture class provided my first clasp of the titty |
05:50 |
gribble |
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mole | mole. a really sexy animal that lives mainly underground. dad: ahh no, look at that lump in the lawn, we must have moles me: ooooo great! *runs out to molest ... |
05:51 |
cazalla |
nah that UD is wrong, least for aussie mole |
05:52 |
mircea_popescu |
so what's an aussie mole ? |
05:52 |
cazalla |
ah i'm spelling it wrong.. |
05:52 |
cazalla |
;;ud moll |
05:52 |
gribble |
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=moll | moll. noun. Slang word from Gangland-era America that meant an attractive young woman. It was often used to describe a "gangster"'s love interest. Slick Dan's ... |
05:52 |
mircea_popescu |
heh k |
05:52 |
cazalla |
the fuck.. |
05:52 |
cazalla |
wikipedia it is.. "In Australia and New Zealand, usually pejorative or self-deprecating, for a woman of loose sexual morals, a bitch, slut, or prostitute. The term can also be used for a girlfriend of a surfie or bikie." |
05:53 |
mircea_popescu |
so like sheila. |
05:53 |
cazalla |
yeah sorta |
05:53 |
mircea_popescu |
o btw, you ever read my aussie pron story ? |
05:53 |
cazalla |
but sheilas can be molls or prudes |
05:54 |
cazalla |
not sure.. i read one about black dicks and some other weird shit, was a bit too far out there for me (sorta reminds me of the kid at school who never stfu about sex and knew far more than he should in all honesty) |
05:54 |
mircea_popescu |
haha lucky we're not in school |
05:54 |
mircea_popescu |
wait, it's jewish school. shit. |
05:55 |
cazalla |
copypaste, i spoke too late, it's already on TV |
05:56 |
cazalla |
free publicity btw, they named your site on tv heh |
06:06 |
copypaste |
lel |
06:06 |
copypaste |
i suppose they don't care so much about the uh |
06:06 |
copypaste |
"privacy of the ladies" |
06:07 |
copypaste |
as the other pubolications |
06:07 |
copypaste |
( ≖‿≖) |
06:10 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29200 @ 0.00042159 = 12.3104 BTC [+] |
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06:41 |
cazalla |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Je8d4CVD0w |
06:41 |
assbot |
copypaste cyber rapes over 500 australian women - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1QDAvRY ) |
06:41 |
copypaste |
haha |
06:42 |
copypaste |
"terrified" |
06:43 |
copypaste |
that girl looks like she's never missed a meal, what's she got to be terrified of? |
06:44 |
cazalla |
stupid fucking molls |
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07:22 |
funkenstein_ |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1165736 <-- I'm not sure about Shanghai but in Beijing they'll need to compete with massive population of russian girls |
07:22 |
assbot |
Logged on 17-06-2015 08:46:04; mircea_popescu: give it a little, all ohio girls be dancin' in shanghai |
07:25 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19950 @ 0.00042761 = 8.5308 BTC [+] {2} |
07:28 |
funkenstein_ |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1165728 <-- the policy mostly over already. lines could always or never go extinct, depending on how you choose to define them. |
07:28 |
assbot |
Logged on 17-06-2015 08:44:15; mats: chinese females are predictably holding out longer and raising their standards, but thats still a lot of extinct lines |
07:34 |
jurov |
http://np.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3a1hmz/if_you_label_any_new_thing_as_contentious_before/ lol such drama |
07:34 |
assbot |
If you label any new thing as "contentious" before a software vote can take place, that is attempted dictatorship. Theymos has just lost my support. : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1CdkZAi ) |
07:45 |
funkenstein_ |
a lot of contentiouses there, but not a lot of content :) |
07:49 |
cazalla |
http://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/3a51q6/bitpay_falling_apart_sends_shockwaves_through_the/cs9ffoc lol top keks |
07:49 |
assbot |
BlockchainOfFools comments on Bitpay falling apart sends shockwaves through the ecosystem by proving Andresen and Hearn are wrong. Merchant transactions are not occurring. ... ( http://bit.ly/1CdmNJt ) |
07:55 |
kakobrekla |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-10-2014#867175 < http://opencores.com/project,ddr2_sdram what am i missing here ? |
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07:55 |
assbot |
Logged on 10-10-2014 02:57:29; asciilifeform: but it won't work |
07:55 |
assbot |
DDR2 SDRAM Controller :: Overview :: OpenCores ... ( http://bit.ly/1CdnmDl ) |
07:57 |
kakobrekla |
ah the problem is on the fpga chip side. |
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08:21 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60806 @ 0.0004267 = 25.9459 BTC [-] {2} |
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08:42 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56700 @ 0.00042812 = 24.2744 BTC [+] |
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09:10 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33023 @ 0.00042159 = 13.9222 BTC [-] |
09:14 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44354 @ 0.00043482 = 19.286 BTC [+] {3} |
09:15 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15982 @ 0.0004374 = 6.9905 BTC [+] {2} |
09:15 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1165915 << key detail: 'IP-Core : MIG V:3.6.1'. that's 'memory interface generator', xilinx's gui turd. it shits out code which is a mere wrapper on a closed-source gigantic steaming pile of shit. and the output is unique to a particular model and subtype of chip. |
09:15 |
assbot |
Logged on 17-06-2015 11:55:10; kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-10-2014#867175 < http://opencores.com/project,ddr2_sdram what am i missing here ? |
09:16 |
kakobrekla |
aha |
09:17 |
asciilifeform |
you can pick up a textbook and write a dram controller for fpga from first principles - and it won't work. because, for starters, only a small number of output cells in the chip can function on both rising and falling edge of clock cycle (what 'ddr' means) and only xilinx's closed turd knows where they are in the routing fabric; |
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09:18 |
asciilifeform |
on top of this, all of the critical paths in the circuit must have approximately same propagation delay - or the thing ~won't work at all~ |
09:18 |
asciilifeform |
this, again, is only possible if you know the actual physical fabric (only xilix does) |
09:18 |
asciilifeform |
thing is, fpga is fundamentally a very cruel lie |
09:19 |
asciilifeform |
it gives the impression that you can actually turn any valid logical circuit into an imitation of something like slow 1980s silicon |
09:19 |
asciilifeform |
but in reality, you are stuck using all kinds of pre-baked pieces (adders, shifters, ddr outputs, and the routing fabric per se) baked in there by vendor |
09:20 |
asciilifeform |
and ~every single chip~ even from particular vendor has entirely different internals. |
09:21 |
asciilifeform |
the entire thing is cynically deliberate. notice how, e.g., xilinx boards, come with ethernet jack and magnetics? well, you can't actually ~use~ the ethernet without paying a per-unit license fee to the bastards |
09:21 |
asciilifeform |
because go and try writing own controller with anything like acceptable performance. |
09:22 |
asciilifeform |
sdram is the absolute worst case, because the difference between 'acceptable performance' and 'works at all, for any purpose' is slim |
09:22 |
asciilifeform |
because you MUST meet the dram refresh timings - or bits fall on the floor. |
09:24 |
asciilifeform |
you ~can~ sloppily 'bit-bang' a 10BaseT ethernet nic. but ~not~ sdram controller. |
09:27 |
kakobrekla |
myea |
09:27 |
asciilifeform |
a readily-available ~true~ fpga would be the greatest political advance in a century of electronic crud. |
09:28 |
asciilifeform |
thing could even have a clear lid, like the old uv-erasable eeproms, for inspection with optical microscope (the fabric would be visibly homogeneous) |
09:28 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu ^ |
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09:31 |
asciilifeform |
there would be no valid reason for any two units, regardless of ~when~ or ~where~ made, to be distinct in any way other than size and density. |
09:31 |
asciilifeform |
like grid paper. |
09:32 |
jurov |
if only you could decide somwhow what s.nsa will be doing |
09:33 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: i can 'decide' all i want' 'spirit is willing but flesh is weak' in this case. unless you'd like to contribute $100B for a fab and an army |
09:34 |
asciilifeform |
given as presently i can't even afford to not have a day job which eats 98% of time & energy |
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09:37 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu's point about the 'excluded middle' ( http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=13-06-2015#1163457 << thread ) is valid, but it simply means that we are falling from skyscraper and trying to invent parachute on our way down. |
09:37 |
assbot |
Logged on 13-06-2015 17:27:26; mircea_popescu: if you need anything that has to be made on something in the middle, make it now. |
09:38 |
asciilifeform |
i will not say with confidence that no one will ~ever~ make meaningful semiconductors in their kitchen or in the jungle. but i WILL say with confidence that no one will make meaningful semiconductors in their kitchen ~using things that have been made in today's kitchens.~ |
09:38 |
asciilifeform |
this is an important distinction. |
09:39 |
midnightmagic |
metalicarap's coming. sooner or later, it'll arrive, and then it's just a matter of time to people being confident that from atomic structure on up, we can be sure that what we wanted is in fact what we have. |
09:39 |
asciilifeform |
midnightmagic: take a little less lsd |
09:39 |
asciilifeform |
occasional touch with reality is good for you |
09:40 |
midnightmagic |
Patience. |
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09:40 |
asciilifeform |
midnightmagic: i don't do 'patience', i do actual understanding of physical reality vs snake oil. |
09:42 |
asciilifeform |
midnightmagic: meanwhile please go and 'nanofabricate atom by atom'... one mosfet. (it's been done! so what if you need a 'gigabuck' of gear to crap out an item which is worth a nanopenny...) then get back to us |
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09:43 |
midnightmagic |
it, or something like it, will provide metal fab. at-home metal fab allows complex specialty tooling. complex specialty tooling will, eventually, allow home-fab. it is inevitable, much like the mendel was. |
09:44 |
asciilifeform |
midnightmagic: go and pump a high vacuum from a vessel you sintered on a 'metal printer' |
09:44 |
punkman |
the mendel was a big achievement? |
09:44 |
asciilifeform |
but please set up camera for 'darwin tube' first |
09:44 |
asciilifeform |
so we can watch |
09:45 |
asciilifeform |
midnightmagic: have you ever witnessed the operation and internals of even a very elementary 'nano' instrument such as electron microscope ? |
09:45 |
midnightmagic |
metalicarap is not sintering |
09:46 |
asciilifeform |
midnightmagic: looked it up, saw vapor-dep/sintering gadget |
09:46 |
asciilifeform |
*sputtering, rather than sintering |
09:46 |
asciilifeform |
ever sputter anything ? |
09:47 |
asciilifeform |
how long it took, per mm of metal deposited ? what kind of vacuum, and with what did you pump it? |
09:48 |
asciilifeform |
i notice that all of the illustrations on http://reprap.org/wiki/MetalicaRap are 3d renderings ... |
09:48 |
assbot |
MetalicaRap - RepRapWiki ... ( http://bit.ly/1d0Yrw4 ) |
09:48 |
asciilifeform |
wonder why. |
09:49 |
asciilifeform |
also, very amusingly, there are a total of 3 sentences casually referring to xray shielding. |
09:50 |
asciilifeform |
(can you say 'bremsstrahlung' kidz?!) |
09:51 |
midnightmagic |
it's within human patience tolerance. x-rays are a natural side-effect of high-energy electron beams hitting metals. shielding is a major consideration in the design. |
09:51 |
asciilifeform |
this is precisely the kind of animal mircea_popescu wrote about - idiot 'millenials' who have never so much as carved a chess set with own hands, failing to distinguish elaborate 3d drawings from actual tech |
09:51 |
asciilifeform |
midnightmagic: where is the evidence of any actual physical experiment by these folks ? |
09:51 |
midnightmagic |
lol you don't know squat about me, punk. |
09:51 |
asciilifeform |
i sure don't |
09:51 |
midnightmagic |
ain't no millennial. |
09:52 |
asciilifeform |
link to an item you, or colleagues, crafted with electron beam? |
09:52 |
kakobrekla |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=02-06-2015#1151838 < old but still http://forum.flightradar24.com/threads/5217-Blocked-flights/page5 |
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09:52 |
assbot |
Logged on 02-06-2015 21:47:08; punkman: why do they register these and let them show up on flightradar24? |
09:52 |
assbot |
Blocked flights - Page 5 ... ( http://bit.ly/1JXW0Y7 ) |
09:52 |
midnightmagic |
asciilifeform: It is not my design, and not my device. |
09:52 |
asciilifeform |
i would like, for example, to fabricate simple circuits in copper (a la pcb) with electron beam |
09:52 |
asciilifeform |
would love to know how to do this on a 'jungle' budget |
09:53 |
asciilifeform |
but so far all i see is... the apparatus described in linked www. |
09:54 |
midnightmagic |
the primary target is home-printed solar panelling. |
09:54 |
asciilifeform |
midnightmagic: would be neat. where do i go to get a 10^-4-torr vacuum pump for less than the cost of new car ? |
09:55 |
asciilifeform |
(i am assuming that you know what kind of pump - multiple pumps, in practice - is involved) |
09:55 |
midnightmagic |
gmax pointed me at one on ebay not so long ago.. it was pretty inexpensive, certainly less than I'd pay for a used car, at any rate. |
09:57 |
asciilifeform |
midnightmagic: i'm an aficionado of university surplus junk myself. and will point out that, even without having to pay for shipping (absolute killer, but luckily i live near one) the actual price you pay, once you factor in the cost of (sometimes unobtainable) spare parts to replace broken/missing items - is often not far from 'car' |
09:58 |
asciilifeform |
and often there are interesting hidden costs. for instance, i am somewhat limited in what surplus junk i can use on account of lacking 3-phase mains power |
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09:58 |
midnightmagic |
let's.. see.. hrm. According to the log about it, there was a device capable of a couple orders of magnitude better than 10-4 torr |
09:59 |
asciilifeform |
sure. |
10:00 |
asciilifeform |
see, e.g., 'Procedures in experimental physics' (J.D. Strong) (1938 - yes) - https://archive.org/details/proceduresinexpe00stro |
10:00 |
assbot |
Procedures in experimental physics : Strong, John Donovan : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive ... ( http://bit.ly/1d10U9H ) |
10:00 |
asciilifeform |
many ways to pump a vacuum. |
10:00 |
asciilifeform |
most - known even then. |
10:00 |
midnightmagic |
let's see.. turbomolecular pumps.. |
10:00 |
asciilifeform |
and have not gotten any cheaper. |
10:01 |
midnightmagic |
metalicarap's stated goal is standard home power source, and rapatan seems to have done a lot of homework on at least feasibility |
10:02 |
asciilifeform |
midnightmagic: so far all i see is 'homework' |
10:02 |
asciilifeform |
if you have other sources, with experiments (done on something other than $maxint machinery, surplus or not) plz link... |
10:03 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49976 @ 0.00043125 = 21.5522 BTC [-] |
10:03 |
asciilifeform |
i, for one, only have a mechanical vacuum pump. it clatters, spits oil. would have looked at home in edison's house. i know that i will not be making so much as a triode valve with this pump. |
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10:03 |
asciilifeform |
(does 'mean free path' mean anything to you ? or slept in 4th grade ?) |
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10:05 |
asciilifeform |
midnightmagic: do you know kanzure ? the two of you would get on very well, i think. he's another fella who likes 'doing homework.' wrote a 'nano cad', even. (because surely - somehow - this puts us closer to actually rearranging atoms with bare hands, right? or so goes the theory) |
10:06 |
midnightmagic |
turbomolecular pumps on ebay seem to range from $1,000 to $3,500. I have no idea which ones would be suitable for the vacuum chamber in a mother m-rap |
10:06 |
asciilifeform |
(last i saw, the 'cad' did not even do anything so basic as calculating bond strain energies. because atoms == legos, apparently.) |
10:06 |
midnightmagic |
I'm not doing any homework. I was just curious. People can get curious about things without actually sitting there for 12 months building prototypes. |
10:07 |
asciilifeform |
midnightmagic: my observation was that there is a curiously large population of people who studiously avoid so much as dipping a toe into the prototype waters. |
10:07 |
asciilifeform |
while doing a peculiarly heavy amount of 'homework' |
10:08 |
midnightmagic |
That's nice. I'm going to stop doing your homework for you, now. |
10:08 |
midnightmagic |
\o |
10:08 |
asciilifeform |
l0l |
10:09 |
punkman |
midnightmagic: did you ever built a reprap by the way? |
10:10 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38300 @ 0.00043899 = 16.8133 BTC [+] {2} |
10:11 |
asciilifeform |
!gettrust assbot midnightmagic |
10:11 |
assbot |
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10:14 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=07-02-2015#1011235 << see also. |
10:14 |
assbot |
Logged on 07-02-2015 02:47:35; mircea_popescu: trinque i think the concern is to be approached on two lines, empirically. line 1) what % of queries constitute powerplays and b) what % of queries result in interesting education that a noob reading logs would benefit from. |
10:16 |
asciilifeform |
midnightmagic: my original objection is to: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1165955 |
10:16 |
assbot |
Logged on 17-06-2015 13:40:07; midnightmagic: Patience. |
10:16 |
asciilifeform |
you would have us believe that the idiot cult of technowankerous 'homework doers' will deliver salvation re: the 'ic in your kitchen' problem. and i will say that this is not a harmless misconception. |
10:17 |
asciilifeform |
because they will not deliver so much as the means for making a usable steel fork. and you can take this to the bank. |
10:20 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1165981 << mega-l0l! |
10:20 |
assbot |
Logged on 17-06-2015 13:52:17; kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=02-06-2015#1151838 < old but still http://forum.flightradar24.com/threads/5217-Blocked-flights/page5 |
10:20 |
asciilifeform |
kakobrekla: going by what is publicly known, probably something like 1 camera-shy rich fella to 10 cia 'renditions' |
10:21 |
kakobrekla |
heh |
10:22 |
asciilifeform |
'There is a discussion on FAA meetings about encrypting the ADS-B signal. By angering the authorities, we will only speed up this process.' << holy fuck the idiocy. i have idea! let's give usg brass cars without license plates ! that way no one will ~ever~ know where they are. |
10:22 |
asciilifeform |
(or where to point the grenade launcher) |
10:23 |
kakobrekla |
could be the cam shy guy. |
10:23 |
asciilifeform |
srsly, hitler oughta fire these fools |
10:23 |
asciilifeform |
they will get him to early grave. |
10:23 |
asciilifeform |
(hitlers normally live ~10,000 yrs, dontchaknow) |
10:31 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1165778 << find us another way to amortize the cost of making so much as a z80 |
10:31 |
assbot |
Logged on 17-06-2015 09:10:49; mircea_popescu: only thing another hundred twerps does for you is more inane demands. |
10:32 |
asciilifeform |
(yes, it no longer amortizes, because today's crop of twerps' mere ~eating~ is now -ev.) |
10:32 |
asciilifeform |
so soon the gears stop. |
10:38 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1165804 << problem is never 'where to flee,' but 'where to flee where can afford to live like gentleman.' everybody here can afford a plane ticket. |
10:38 |
assbot |
Logged on 17-06-2015 09:29:31; mats: the problem i'm faced with now is where to flee |
10:38 |
asciilifeform |
the problems comes after. |
10:39 |
mats |
will probably end up moving back to mainland |
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10:39 |
mats |
which will be a struggle |
10:39 |
asciilifeform |
(and before you say 'i am willing to live like mexican', note that for ~you personally~ it will cost 50x what it does for the native-born orc. because he has the extended family, willing to live seven-to-a-room with him without murder, and you don't.) |
10:40 |
asciilifeform |
mats: mainland ? |
10:40 |
mats |
mainland china |
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10:40 |
asciilifeform |
mats: anybody waiting for you there ? |
10:42 |
mats |
second cousins, mostly |
10:42 |
kakobrekla |
ladyboys |
10:42 |
mats |
and ladyboys |
10:43 |
asciilifeform |
mats: so possibly you have the 'seven-to-a-room' thing covered. |
10:44 |
asciilifeform |
but might want to check with the cousins before buying ticket. |
10:44 |
mats |
i am not looking forward to the culture shock |
10:44 |
asciilifeform |
and arrange for a letter of recommendation for lucrative job cooking 'gutter oil' or mining uranium |
10:45 |
asciilifeform |
(also three light-years ahead of, e.g., my own position in chinese employment market. so don't laugh) |
10:46 |
jurov |
so this bitcoin thing we're having here is completely useless even in such situation? |
10:46 |
asciilifeform |
mats: at least they have public executions. i, for instance, am living in a tyrannical empire that doesn't even have fucking public executions to watch. picture that. |
10:46 |
mats |
yes the executions are a big plus |
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10:46 |
kakobrekla |
!b 2 |
10:46 |
assbot |
Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/02Q3XT0.txt ) |
10:47 |
asciilifeform |
srsly i would buy a tourist ticket if i could be guaranteed a front seat |
10:47 |
mats |
folks regularly catch bullet for theft of much less than 1mn |
10:47 |
asciilifeform |
'kill the chicken to teach the monkeys' (TM) (R) |
10:47 |
jurov |
also, i don't get how anyone in this age can *not* have some foreign acquaintances that one can be sure to not throw him under the bus |
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10:47 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: very easily. |
10:48 |
asciilifeform |
(and what means 'not throw under the bus' ??) |
10:48 |
jurov |
that when i move there, will provide some basic information how to function |
10:48 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: 'function' ? |
10:49 |
asciilifeform |
how about employment that doesn't make one want to blow brains out? |
10:49 |
asciilifeform |
that was hard enough here in usa where i had 20+ yrs to make meatwot |
10:49 |
jurov |
i don need no fucking employment |
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10:49 |
asciilifeform |
you and mircea - ok |
10:49 |
asciilifeform |
if 'don need no fucking employment' can live in antarctica. on atomic dirigible. |
10:50 |
jurov |
you refuse to understand |
10:50 |
asciilifeform |
what, in particular ? |
10:51 |
jurov |
people did relocate to shenzen and seem to be happy there without atomic dirigibles. how so? |
10:52 |
jurov |
for example |
10:52 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: some 'people' can 'seem happy' on a bowl of rotting rice in a day, earned by sucking 500 cocks. |
10:52 |
asciilifeform |
they - yes |
10:52 |
asciilifeform |
me - no |
10:52 |
asciilifeform |
it's that simple. |
10:52 |
kakobrekla |
jurov, ascii is not a clean burning engine |
10:52 |
kakobrekla |
or what was it. |
10:53 |
jurov |
not even chinese in shenzen eat rotting rice anymore |
10:54 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: what does the leisure, solitude, quiet, and good eu-style food combo cost in shenzhen ? |
10:54 |
kakobrekla |
only moldy now. |
10:54 |
kakobrekla |
cheaper in eu maybe. lol |
10:54 |
asciilifeform |
how about the vacuum pump from earlier thread ? |
10:55 |
jurov |
they surely are doing things that need hard vacuum in shenzen. maybe even more than in wash dc |
10:55 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: things with very clear ROI |
10:56 |
jurov |
and as for leisure, solitude, quiet, food.. you can find a fault with some of these things anywhere |
10:56 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: not speaking of 'find a fault' but 'minimal acceptable' here |
10:57 |
asciilifeform |
where in shenzhen can i live without ~hearing smelling~ the locals? |
10:57 |
asciilifeform |
can i get real (read: ru or identical) chocolate there? at what cost/gram ? |
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10:58 |
asciilifeform |
how many disease carriers will have to run shoulders with every day ? |
10:58 |
asciilifeform |
*rub |
10:58 |
mats |
http://techcrunch.com/2015/06/17/uber-drivers-deemed-employees-by-california-labor-commission via hn |
10:58 |
assbot |
Uber Drivers Deemed Employees By California Labor Commission | TechCrunch ... ( http://bit.ly/1GOHtNl ) |
10:58 |
asciilifeform |
and, more to the point, why am i there at all? who asked for me there, paid ? |
10:59 |
kakobrekla |
elephant trunk for example :) |
10:59 |
mats |
i sure hope they win their appeal |
10:59 |
asciilifeform |
kakobrekla: checked my mailbox this morning. no telegram from chinese emperor asking for it. |
10:59 |
kakobrekla |
dang. |
10:59 |
kakobrekla |
lets try the afternoon. |
10:59 |
jurov |
guess you got typical usuan disease. freaks out at the thought of staying outside of The Standard Environment |
10:59 |
asciilifeform |
mats: glad that you mentioned this. because i did an experiment, and forgot to speak of it. actually tried to ride 'uber.' (did it once before, at an airport, and it sorta worked.) but this time the car approached, clearly saw me, and ... kept going. inside was a gaggle of college 'bros' all holding iPnohes. |
11:00 |
jurov |
*usian |
11:00 |
asciilifeform |
jurov is quite mistaken. |
11:00 |
kakobrekla |
jurov he is caught in local pain minimum |
11:00 |
mats |
that's weird, Uber isn't a ride sharing bidness |
11:00 |
asciilifeform |
mats: it most certainly is not |
11:01 |
asciilifeform |
mats: which is why i suspect that a new scam was invented |
11:01 |
jurov |
but insisting that there is even no quality chocolate? what do the chinese rich eat, flavored vegetable oil? |
11:01 |
asciilifeform |
whereby a bunch of folks pretend to be an uber 'cabbie' and 'pick up' customers |
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11:01 |
jurov |
with honkgkong next door? |
11:01 |
asciilifeform |
i suspect that the iPnohe only checks that a chump has been 'picked up', but not delivered |
11:01 |
asciilifeform |
(on gps coords) |
11:01 |
asciilifeform |
so gaggle of 'dudebros' sits all in one 'cab' and rakes in the dough. |
11:01 |
mats |
chinese uber is getting raped in this way |
11:02 |
asciilifeform |
this was on a u.s. university campus |
11:02 |
mats |
folks abusing promotional $30 ride credit |
11:02 |
asciilifeform |
i filled a knapsack with books and didn't feel like trudging home in the 99% humidity |
11:02 |
asciilifeform |
ended up doing so anyway |
11:03 |
asciilifeform |
best part - they charged me five bux to 'cance; |
11:03 |
asciilifeform |
l |
11:03 |
mats |
ive never experienced your particular problem before |
11:03 |
mats |
have taken at least a hundred rides now |
11:03 |
asciilifeform |
(wrote hate mail, they 'gave it back' as shop credit. as if i have much desire for this service now) |
11:03 |
asciilifeform |
may depend on locale |
11:04 |
mats |
slave labor beats car ownership |
11:04 |
asciilifeform |
if i used 'uber' for commute, could easily sum to cost of a nice car every month... |
11:05 |
funkenstein_ |
didi kuadi and others kicking uber ass in beijing |
11:06 |
funkenstein_ |
also i can look for 10^-4 torr vacuum providers |
11:06 |
asciilifeform |
funkenstein_: while you're at it, compute the cost of a 10km^2 opaque bubble for me to live in there. |
11:07 |
mircea_popescu |
ahhh, another 2. at this rate i'll be rich! |
11:07 |
mircea_popescu |
oh yeah, and while at it alf, compute the cost of raising ten children off three different women, also sight unseen. |
11:07 |
funkenstein_ |
pure diamond ok ascii? |
11:08 |
jurov |
alf now requires hard vacuum to live? |
11:08 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: i can do without hard vacuum (hard enough to get it here) |
11:08 |
asciilifeform |
but not without the entire orchestra |
11:08 |
mircea_popescu |
because if we're doing the entire "here's some random shit i came up with, do planning for it", might as well. |
11:08 |
mircea_popescu |
you know, naggum had a very unflattering piece re this approach, alf. |
11:08 |
asciilifeform |
the given example was anything but random. |
11:08 |
mircea_popescu |
something about norwegian meteorology. |
11:09 |
asciilifeform |
it's back to the 'living vs existing' thread. |
11:09 |
asciilifeform |
why not i move to beijing straight to the jail? |
11:09 |
mircea_popescu |
"opaque 10skm bubble" is not random ? |
11:09 |
asciilifeform |
answer: i can sit in the american jail now! |
11:09 |
asciilifeform |
closer to home |
11:09 |
mircea_popescu |
forget that part. |
11:09 |
mircea_popescu |
you're not liable to get anywhere by simply following your own mental narrative in circles. |
11:10 |
mircea_popescu |
did you or did you not say 10 sqkm opaque bubble, and is it or is it not 15yo cocklet-ism |
11:10 |
jurov |
mircea_popescu: it comes out that if you ever decide to relocate alf, will need to manage it and provide usg-level amenities |
11:10 |
asciilifeform |
cartoon example, ferphuxxsake |
11:10 |
mircea_popescu |
no. |
11:10 |
mats |
lol |
11:10 |
mircea_popescu |
that's the exact problem in discussion here. you're freely mixing cartoons and footage, for a very lsd-looking example. |
11:10 |
mircea_popescu |
stick to one or the other. |
11:11 |
asciilifeform |
entire discussion isn't firmly grounded in reality. no one asked for me in shenzhen, or will. |
11:11 |
mircea_popescu |
yes, the best dreams start with a twisted version of reality. |
11:11 |
mircea_popescu |
the worst dreams never end. |
11:11 |
kakobrekla |
jurov> alf now requires hard vacuum to live? < lmao |
11:12 |
asciilifeform |
live/exist |
11:12 |
mircea_popescu |
i wonder if aiming to be a spherical chicken makes one transfat ? |
11:14 |
asciilifeform |
i have lived in cities. in crappy soviet dwellings, with little room to move, even. in order to do this again voluntarily i would want something very valuable in return. such as not having to work for a living ever. |
11:15 |
asciilifeform |
would have to stick to mathematics, probably. (can one even get unfiltered internet in shenzhen ?) |
11:15 |
mircea_popescu |
the notion that future you asks past you anything at all is very 16yo-ish female in kabul sort of thought. it's not how it works. |
11:15 |
mircea_popescu |
"oh in order to put up with what my mother puts up with i will want blabla" |
11:15 |
asciilifeform |
no one asked me, aha. |
11:15 |
asciilifeform |
which is why the whole thing is an acid trip |
11:15 |
mircea_popescu |
nobody ever gave a shit. least of all the girly in discussion once she's 17.5 |
11:15 |
asciilifeform |
the only thing i might be asked is if i'd like to be shot in the head or chest |
11:15 |
mircea_popescu |
dubious |
11:16 |
asciilifeform |
and that's only if interlocutor is feeling charitable. |
11:16 |
mircea_popescu |
i remember some guy paying a lot of money for that sort of thing |
11:16 |
mircea_popescu |
and still not getting it |
11:16 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: aha! |
11:16 |
asciilifeform |
jack ketch took tips, famously! |
11:16 |
asciilifeform |
remember him |
11:16 |
funkenstein_ |
vpn is slow over there but works as you'd expect |
11:16 |
asciilifeform |
as pictured in the well-loved 'baroque cycle' by n. stephenson |
11:17 |
asciilifeform |
little boys would earn pennies by pulling on legs of hanging men at tyburn |
11:17 |
asciilifeform |
(they paid on the gallows in advance) |
11:17 |
asciilifeform |
idk if i'll pay. what'll i do if the kid refuses to pull? negrate him as i swing ? |
11:19 |
asciilifeform |
at any rate, if the thread were about things that are ~likely to~ happen to me, vs 'what i'd like', it'd be much shorter and even more boring. |
11:19 |
asciilifeform |
as it is, i fully expect to envy the '16yo-ish female in kabul |
11:19 |
asciilifeform |
' |
11:20 |
funkenstein_ |
and there's stephenson again today :D |
11:20 |
kakobrekla |
that girl dosnt get us or ru grade chocolate |
11:20 |
asciilifeform |
she does get to not be fed into a woodchipper feet first, for example |
11:22 |
asciilifeform |
also the gurl has valuable illiquid asset. |
11:22 |
kakobrekla |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1165947 dont see how this could be worse someplace else |
11:22 |
assbot |
Logged on 17-06-2015 13:34:30; asciilifeform: given as presently i can't even afford to not have a day job which eats 98% of time & energy |
11:22 |
asciilifeform |
kakobrekla: very easily. could, like 99.999% of the others, have this +plus+ no money |
11:22 |
mats |
http://yro.slashdot.org/story/15/06/11/1616215/ubers-rise-in-china-may-be-counterfeit << what i was referencing earlier |
11:22 |
assbot |
Uber's Rise In China May Be Counterfeit - Slashdot ... ( http://bit.ly/1GONtWB ) |
11:22 |
asciilifeform |
(and no chocolate) |
11:23 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform if it's valuable, it's pretty sopping liquid alright |
11:23 |
* |
asciilifeform knew mircea_popescu would say this ^ ! |
11:23 |
asciilifeform |
l0l |
11:23 |
mircea_popescu |
i just saw "love me or live me" last night. story of fucking america retold as being being built by a sucker labouring atop a dry cunt. |
11:23 |
funkenstein_ |
my sources tell me uber is for 外国人 |
11:23 |
mircea_popescu |
very innerving movie. |
11:23 |
mats |
somehow the 'we have a terrible business plan' has yet again transmogrified into the old 'omg the chinese are counterfeiting again' narrative |
11:24 |
asciilifeform |
kakobrekla: it also matters ~what~ the 98% is spent doing |
11:25 |
kakobrekla |
for the price of your life |
11:25 |
asciilifeform |
everybody dies. |
11:25 |
asciilifeform |
can't buy out of it. |
11:25 |
kakobrekla |
your estimates are rather short. |
11:25 |
asciilifeform |
'life' per se isn't worth much. |
11:26 |
* |
funkenstein_ is happy some of that time is spent teaching the kids in b-a |
11:26 |
kakobrekla |
well you can do 2% cleaning toilets and 98% whatever else |
11:26 |
asciilifeform |
kakobrekla: wake me up when cleaning toilet pays 1000/min |
11:26 |
mircea_popescu |
where's that cleaning toilets pic i had... |
11:26 |
mircea_popescu |
it actually paid something like 2k/session. |
11:26 |
kakobrekla |
the golden ones ? |
11:27 |
mircea_popescu |
but you'll have to get in shape, alf. |
11:27 |
mircea_popescu |
and i mean, tits and all. |
11:27 |
asciilifeform |
(and when magical fairy dust is sprinkled on planet so the 1000/minute cleaners do not move prices of anything at all) |
11:27 |
asciilifeform |
!s boys are worthless |
11:27 |
assbot |
0 results for 'boys are worthless' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=boys+are+worthless |
11:27 |
asciilifeform |
!s boys worthless |
11:27 |
assbot |
0 results for 'boys worthless' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=boys+worthless |
11:27 |
asciilifeform |
l0lwat |
11:27 |
asciilifeform |
i distinctly recall when mircea_popescu wrote this important truth |
11:27 |
kakobrekla |
!s girls worthless |
11:27 |
assbot |
2 results for 'girls worthless' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=girls+worthless |
11:28 |
kakobrekla |
ba search fight |
11:28 |
* |
asciilifeform guesses that '2k per session' was gurl, cleaning with own tongue |
11:28 |
asciilifeform |
and not toilet, but arse directly |
11:29 |
mircea_popescu |
incidentally this is pretty good http://41.media.tumblr.com/77fad6553eebe3a966ae330338774d5f/tumblr_netmudh2oj1u31v3yo1_1280.jpg |
11:29 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1GOP26Q ) |
11:29 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: prison tattoo ? |
11:29 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah, from the californy. |
11:29 |
asciilifeform |
(looks drawn with marker) |
11:30 |
kakobrekla |
it did say 'permanent' on the marker. |
11:30 |
mircea_popescu |
ohohohhhhohh http://40.media.tumblr.com/04851812b3a6940ce2fe539a341532ab/tumblr_nov5eeXrbc1uqdoi9o2_1280.jpg |
11:30 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1GOPge6 ) |
11:30 |
mircea_popescu |
annnd http://40.media.tumblr.com/5f304a0119aa3b6d726fda2ce9c9859b/tumblr_nov5eeXrbc1uqdoi9o3_1280.jpg |
11:30 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1GOPf9W ) |
11:30 |
asciilifeform |
will guess that schmuck fell down, drunkenly, and was 'illustrated' after his clothes were stolen |
11:30 |
mircea_popescu |
let jurov never say i don't have anything in this vein. |
11:30 |
mircea_popescu |
bwahahaha kakobrekla |
11:31 |
mircea_popescu |
http://40.media.tumblr.com/0c11d9aa7d5866207330a96f1df20689/tumblr_nov5eeXrbc1uqdoi9o5_1280.jpg last one with toyota monkey. |
11:31 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1GOPnGA ) |
11:33 |
* |
jurov 's not sying anything |
11:33 |
mircea_popescu |
is he hot btw ? |
11:34 |
midnightmagic |
That moron should be wearing shoes, those rocks are sharp. |
11:34 |
mircea_popescu |
i know girly doing that number'd pretty much look hot regardless. but the straight me thinks it's rather disqualifying for a man. |
11:34 |
mircea_popescu |
midnightmagic maybe it adds to the value proposition. |
11:34 |
midnightmagic |
"I can take a good sole-caning"? |
11:35 |
mircea_popescu |
something like that. prolly phrased by original author more in the vein of "i jus dun care!11" |
11:35 |
mircea_popescu |
drive fast die young leaving a wholly pierced foot sole. |
11:36 |
jurov |
not my type, i'm more for bears |
11:36 |
* |
asciilifeform bbl, off to polish golden toilet |
11:36 |
kakobrekla |
do it with roughsandpaper. |
11:37 |
mircea_popescu |
in protest |
11:37 |
kakobrekla |
and collect. |
11:37 |
midnightmagic |
Notice the lack of foot arches. I thought that was a sign of a lack of exercise. |
11:37 |
mircea_popescu |
flat feet's just the sign of peasantish genetics. |
11:38 |
mircea_popescu |
(and the original reason high heels were invented. if the girl's properly heeled, you can't tell) |
11:38 |
midnightmagic |
huh. could've sworn it was an exercise thing. |
11:40 |
mircea_popescu |
nah, all children are born with flat feet among numerous other diformities. some never grow out of it |
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11:40 |
mircea_popescu |
like some never grow out of the other infantile deformities. |
11:46 |
mircea_popescu |
"qntra.net is a rabid bitcoin maximalist blog, run by one of the permanent fixtures in the #bitcoin-asshats tribe. |
11:46 |
mircea_popescu |
These guys believe, without a trace of irony, that there will someday be no other currency than Bitcoin" |
11:46 |
mircea_popescu |
wait, we believe this now ? |
11:47 |
shinohai |
wut |
11:47 |
mircea_popescu |
i thought we were the only ones left that actually believe there is a place for scrip like usd & the rest of the fiats, doing roughly the job of movie tickets and coffee coupons |
11:47 |
mircea_popescu |
meanwhile reddit iirc was rabidly "bitcoin must have endless blocks to be the only currency". |
11:47 |
mircea_popescu |
very weird what conclusions stupid ends up with. |
11:48 |
shinohai |
If yu want rabid inflation that having no hard limits on blocks causes, try doge. |
11:49 |
mircea_popescu |
oh, wait, reddit was already publicly humiliated ? |
11:49 |
mircea_popescu |
no wait, that must be wrong. it was... oh... uh... iot was a DIFFERENT REDDIT!111 |
11:49 |
mircea_popescu |
i didn't stomp all over their stupid faces those were different faces of different anon derps. this time it'll work!!! |
11:49 |
mircea_popescu |
etc. |
11:50 |
mircea_popescu |
oh yes, reddit's real life hasn't begun yet! |
11:50 |
mircea_popescu |
i forgot that part. |
11:51 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1165927 << this specific bit should be measurable no ? |
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11:51 |
assbot |
Logged on 17-06-2015 13:17:59; asciilifeform: you can pick up a textbook and write a dram controller for fpga from first principles - and it won't work. because, for starters, only a small number of output cells in the chip can function on both rising and falling edge of clock cycle (what 'ddr' means) and only xilinx's closed turd knows where they are in the routing fabric; |
11:51 |
mircea_popescu |
i am not for a moment arguing against the closed turdness approach ddram is wrapped in |
11:51 |
mircea_popescu |
just ftr. |
11:52 |
mircea_popescu |
(and similarly prop delays are an empirical phenomenon, cheaper to measure than to make a new chip) |
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11:56 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1165942 << i doubt you can look through a clear lid with a microscope and get much valuae. it'd have to be a pretty expensive lid. |
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11:56 |
assbot |
Logged on 17-06-2015 13:28:48; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu ^ |
11:56 |
mircea_popescu |
made by zeiss |
11:59 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1165957 << this is you know, like saying that "printed matter powered education is nonsense, it costs more to write the infolios than an entire campus of ivy league's worth". or, for that matter, "it takes more work to program a sound card than it takes to think through all the problems humanity has thought through so far". |
11:59 |
assbot |
Logged on 17-06-2015 13:42:52; asciilifeform: midnightmagic: meanwhile please go and 'nanofabricate atom by atom'... one mosfet. (it's been done! so what if you need a 'gigabuck' of gear to crap out an item which is worth a nanopenny...) then get back to us |
12:00 |
mircea_popescu |
yes, that so far is right. the thing it fails to account for is that roads create traffic, not the other way around. it's not need that creates advance, as the idiots writing schoolbooks claim. the other way around. |
12:01 |
mircea_popescu |
and consequently this whole story is moot other than for the similarity with the past. it took the magical box allowing you to talk to people over the ethers a few decades to arrive starting in the 70s, or a few millenia to arrive starting pre caesar. in the interval, cellphones were mostly magic rings. |
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12:02 |
mircea_popescu |
now we understand that retrospectively, the chord in phones is not a requirement but an anachronism, and we expect everything be available as wired or wireless at our option. but the wired/wireless dichotomy was not even meaningful to bell, or marconi. |
12:02 |
mircea_popescu |
yes they understood that you can send communication over wires or over waves. but they did not understand what they were doing was "sending communication" in these terms, or in short they were speaking in prose but unaware of what prose is. |
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12:02 |
mircea_popescu |
so, im sure he has it. patience. |
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12:03 |
kakobrekla |
patience and patients. so close. |
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~ 18 minutes ~ |
12:22 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3627 @ 0.00043716 = 1.5856 BTC [+] |
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~ 20 minutes ~ |
12:42 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31249 @ 0.00044452 = 13.8908 BTC [+] {2} |
12:43 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 150414 @ 0.00044499 = 66.9327 BTC [+] {2} |
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~ 22 minutes ~ |
13:06 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22071 @ 0.00044528 = 9.8278 BTC [+] {2} |
13:12 |
thestringpuller |
has there been discussion here on BIP-100 yet? |
13:12 |
thestringpuller |
i don't see anything in the logs. |
13:17 |
danielpbarron |
!up referredbyloper |
13:17 |
kakobrekla |
heh |
13:17 |
kakobrekla |
http://dpaste.com/0TF2ZGD.txt |
13:17 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1d1uUSM ) |
13:19 |
BingoBoingo |
lol kakobrekla very small orders |
13:20 |
kakobrekla |
400k active users is everyone who ever visited their webpage + theri dog + webrobots |
13:24 |
mats |
Unauthorized Cross-App Resource Access on OS X and iOS http://arxiv.org/pdf/1505.06836v1.pdf |
13:24 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1d1vuAb ) |
13:25 |
mats |
note that this has been unpatched for ~6mos |
13:29 |
asciilifeform |
!up ascii_field |
13:30 |
ascii_field |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1166281 << everything is 'measurable.' but you have to be ~able to lay out the circuit physically~ rather than merely mathematically to get the guaranteed equal delays. as in, you have to have knowledge of ~all~ addressable part of the fpga. |
13:30 |
assbot |
Logged on 17-06-2015 15:51:00; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1165927 << this specific bit should be measurable no ? |
13:30 |
ascii_field |
i will remind readers that reversing fpga is not impossible, and has been done. but takes ~20 years and chip is usually unobtainable after 5-10 (sooner if vendor learns that you're doing this) |
13:31 |
ascii_field |
aaaand it is done by tearing apart the (x86) toolchain, rather than the chip |
13:31 |
ascii_field |
the entire thing, note, is built specifically around making this activity as unpleasant and expensive as possible. |
13:32 |
ascii_field |
(xilinx, altera, actel, etc. ~all~ make the bulk of their revenue by charging rent for 'properties' like 'the right to have a network card' in your fpga) |
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13:32 |
menahem |
;;later tell williamdunne it's live: https://koinswag.com/shop/bitcoin-t-shirt/mircea-popescu-bitcoin-t-shirt/ |
13:32 |
assbot |
Mircea Popescu Bitcoin T-Shirt - KOIN ... ( http://bit.ly/1J4qV6o ) |
13:32 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
13:32 |
ascii_field |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1166285 << it most assuredly is not. and on top of it, as soon as you're anywhere near done, they make a new and entirely incompatible one. |
13:32 |
assbot |
Logged on 17-06-2015 15:52:09; mircea_popescu: (and similarly prop delays are an empirical phenomenon, cheaper to measure than to make a new chip) |
13:33 |
ascii_field |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1166286 << quartz |
13:33 |
assbot |
Logged on 17-06-2015 15:56:45; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1165942 << i doubt you can look through a clear lid with a microscope and get much valuae. it'd have to be a pretty expensive lid. |
13:34 |
ascii_field |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1166294 << wtf - maxwell understood, and so well that he couldn't even be bothered to ~do~ it |
13:34 |
assbot |
Logged on 17-06-2015 16:02:44; mircea_popescu: yes they understood that you can send communication over wires or over waves. but they did not understand what they were doing was "sending communication" in these terms, or in short they were speaking in prose but unaware of what prose is. |
13:34 |
shinohai |
Thank you menahem, I bookmarked. My world is not complete without a mircea popescu cult t-shirt. |
13:34 |
ascii_field |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1166295 << the process to which the fool was referring IS NOT HAPPENING |
13:34 |
assbot |
Logged on 17-06-2015 16:02:50; mircea_popescu: so, im sure he has it. patience. |
13:35 |
ascii_field |
no one is working on desktop ic fab. |
13:35 |
ascii_field |
not in any way that leaves any public evidence of itself whatsoever, at any rate! |
13:35 |
ascii_field |
(morons pulling their cocks in 'nanotech'-flavoured ways does NOT count as work) |
13:36 |
ascii_field |
it isn't happening or so much as credibly threatening to happen |
13:36 |
menahem |
bahaha shinohai - it was a must. :D |
13:36 |
ascii_field |
and the folks who have notions that it is, demonstrate a total black-as-night unmarred by any light ignorance of the physical basics involved |
13:36 |
shinohai |
I want to take a picture of myself wearing it and post it to reddit to see how many downvotes I get :D |
13:37 |
menahem |
hahaha, imagine a team of us. |
13:38 |
mats |
you're embarrassing |
13:39 |
ascii_field |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1166286 << Aaaalso - you don't need to distinguish features to prove homogeneous circuit. can use... optical comparator (ask a machinist. 1910s tech.) |
13:39 |
assbot |
Logged on 17-06-2015 15:56:45; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1165942 << i doubt you can look through a clear lid with a microscope and get much valuae. it'd have to be a pretty expensive lid. |
13:40 |
ascii_field |
(homogeneous - per 'specificity of diddling' theorem) |
13:41 |
menahem |
mats, whom ? |
13:46 |
ascii_field |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1166292 << today we learn that mircea_popescu is actually an immortal (greek?) god and reasons in the timescale of immortal being |
13:46 |
assbot |
Logged on 17-06-2015 16:01:16; mircea_popescu: and consequently this whole story is moot other than for the similarity with the past. it took the magical box allowing you to talk to people over the ethers a few decades to arrive starting in the 70s, or a few millenia to arrive starting pre caesar. in the interval, cellphones were mostly magic rings. |
13:52 |
funkenstein_ |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1166318 <-- and Atmel too on satellites? How does this work in practice, do you buy schematics? |
13:52 |
assbot |
Logged on 17-06-2015 17:32:11; ascii_field: (xilinx, altera, actel, etc. ~all~ make the bulk of their revenue by charging rent for 'properties' like 'the right to have a network card' in your fpga) |
13:53 |
ascii_field |
funkenstein_: the way it works is that there is literally no way to build a 'bitstream' (as the configs are called) for a chip without using vendor's turd toolchain |
13:54 |
funkenstein_ |
which requires, logging into server or something? |
13:54 |
ascii_field |
and if you want, e.g., a 100BaseT nic, or sdram controller, it has to be laid out mainly by hand using floor plan of the particular chip and explicit coordinates. which vendor can do, and you (user) cannot. |
13:54 |
ascii_field |
funkenstein_: no, it runs on pc |
13:54 |
ascii_field |
think several GB of obfuscated crud |
13:54 |
funkenstein_ |
so, the turdchain phones home? |
13:55 |
ascii_field |
funkenstein_: some of them - this too |
13:55 |
ascii_field |
but a properly-cracked one will not |
13:55 |
funkenstein_ |
that is fucked btw.. why can't they charge for the hardware? |
13:55 |
funkenstein_ |
yeah that was my next question :) |
13:56 |
ascii_field |
funkenstein_: they -also- charge $maxint for the hardware |
13:56 |
ascii_field |
who said they didn't |
13:56 |
ascii_field |
price some of the larger xilinx chips |
13:56 |
ascii_field |
well into 4-digits usd |
13:56 |
ascii_field |
some - 5 |
13:57 |
funkenstein_ |
so properly cracked turds will get you out of the extra charges for.. using the hardware you paid for? |
13:57 |
ascii_field |
(and only a paid-up, to the tune of 100K+ usd, or well-cracked, xilinx toolchain, will even talk to the $200-300 ones) |
13:57 |
ascii_field |
funkenstein_: the extra charges, but not the retardation |
13:58 |
ascii_field |
(of having to use the gui, every time you get a slightly variant chip, and of never coming remotely close to understanding wtf is in the black box) |
13:58 |
ascii_field |
considering that to me, the ~whole fucking point~ of fpga is to get a computer which ~i and only i~ define |
13:58 |
ascii_field |
it's a total scam. |
13:59 |
funkenstein_ |
wow, no wonder the era of fpga mining didn't last long |
13:59 |
ascii_field |
funkenstein_: aaaactually |
13:59 |
ascii_field |
it continues |
13:59 |
kakobrekla |
has nothing to do with it. |
13:59 |
ascii_field |
!s hard copy asic |
13:59 |
assbot |
2 results for 'hard copy asic' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=hard+copy+asic |
13:59 |
ascii_field |
today's 'asics' are scams |
13:59 |
funkenstein_ |
ah ha |
13:59 |
ascii_field |
(they are fpga with hardcoded metallization layer) |
14:00 |
kakobrekla |
!up ascii_field |
14:00 |
kakobrekla |
eh srsly |
14:01 |
asciilifeform |
!up ascii_field |
14:01 |
ascii_field |
kakobrekla: at the very least, every single one of the ~publicly sold~ chips, afaik, fits this description as per the published specs. |
14:02 |
kakobrekla |
yeah just that the era of fpgas he meant was over purely because of economics |
14:04 |
funkenstein_ |
"In your labyrinthine journey, [..] in the world of iron, learn to catch the thought behind the machine or it will swallow you." |
14:04 |
ascii_field |
kakobrekla: 'hard copy fpga' has fixed metal, rather than sram LUTs for routing matrix. so slightly faster (and significantly cheaper to manufacture) than ordinary fpga |
14:04 |
ascii_field |
but it is still not a true asic, because the pieces are not movable |
14:05 |
ascii_field |
which is to say, they are all over the place and connected by the equivalent of very long wires |
14:05 |
funkenstein_ |
so the big guns aren't out yet |
14:05 |
ascii_field |
and you don't have the ones you might like, but solely the ones the chip came with from xilinx etc |
14:05 |
ascii_field |
funkenstein_: they are out, but belong to usg & its antipodal counterparts |
14:06 |
ascii_field |
not to schmucks on the street |
14:06 |
funkenstein_ |
and are they firing? |
14:07 |
ascii_field |
funkenstein_: mircea_popescu and the little birds who whisper in his ear say 'yes' |
14:07 |
* |
funkenstein_ ducks and covers |
14:07 |
ascii_field |
me, how the fuck would i know |
14:07 |
ascii_field |
the only fact ~i~ know is that the network hash sum does not even begin to be accounted for by even the most liberal estimate of miner machines publicly sold to date |
14:08 |
ascii_field |
but this is known to ~everyone~, even homo redditicus |
14:08 |
ascii_field |
make of it what you will. |
14:09 |
ascii_field |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1166265 << didja have quack snake-oil 'cures' for flat feet in ro ? |
14:09 |
assbot |
Logged on 17-06-2015 15:40:28; mircea_popescu: nah, all children are born with flat feet among numerous other diformities. some never grow out of it |
14:09 |
ascii_field |
we sure did in su |
14:14 |
punkman |
"In addition to calling for resignations, Lieu asked OPM to show some remorse. “One word I haven’t heard is sorry,” Lieu said. “When is OPM going to apologize to federal employees?”" |
14:14 |
punkman |
http://www.govexec.com/pay-benefits/2015/06/opm-will-soon-notify-new-wave-workers-their-data-was-hacked/115441/ |
14:14 |
assbot |
OPM Will Soon Notify New Wave of Workers Their Data Was Hacked - Pay & Benefits - GovExec.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1GPhZj6 ) |
14:15 |
ascii_field |
“When is OPM going to apologize to federal employees?”" << 'when the crayfish whistles on the mountain, and the fish in the sea begin to sing' (tm) (r) (ru) |
14:16 |
punkman |
"Rather than immediately encrypt data, OPM plans to reduce the number of computer users with access to systems and require multistep login verifications, she said. OPM's fiscal 2016 request for congressional funding asks for an additional $21 million" |
14:16 |
punkman |
they are gonna get paid of course |
14:17 |
ascii_field |
meanwhile, http://cryptome.org/2015/06/cia-john-brennan-financial.pdf http://cryptome.org/2015/06/dni-james-clapper-financial.pdf << mircea_popescu tell me again how these buggers are 'poor' |
14:17 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1GPiqK7 ) |
14:18 |
punkman |
"The day after the breach was made public, OPM finalized a more than $20 million deal with Winvale Group to start notifying individuals "within 48 hours of award."" |
14:18 |
ascii_field |
^ and this is just the ~publicly disclosed~ income |
14:18 |
* |
ascii_field l0lz re: herr clapper owning facebook stock |
14:20 |
ascii_field |
http://cryptome.org/2015/06/nsa-susan-rice-financial.pdf << see also |
14:21 |
mircea_popescu |
o holy log lol. |
14:21 |
mircea_popescu |
!up tcrypt |
14:22 |
ascii_field |
http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2015/06/the-magical-content-tree.html << where herr orlov contemplates cribbing mircea_popescu's 'pay per article' thing |
14:22 |
assbot |
ClubOrlov: The Magical Content Tree ... ( http://bit.ly/1GPj22j ) |
14:22 |
mircea_popescu |
we wish him luck... |
14:22 |
ascii_field |
i don't think they have bitcoin on his planet yet, though |
14:22 |
mircea_popescu |
tho... didn't he just beg a few k's recently to buy himself a new mayo dildo or something ? |
14:22 |
ascii_field |
15k |
14:22 |
ascii_field |
diesel |
14:23 |
mircea_popescu |
what more does he want exactly ? |
14:23 |
ascii_field |
looks like he has... 14,314 |
14:23 |
ascii_field |
(goal 15,956) |
14:23 |
mircea_popescu |
iirc baseline is a dollar a day, so... there's his lifetime income |
14:23 |
mircea_popescu |
what more does he want. |
14:23 |
ascii_field |
wai wut |
14:23 |
ascii_field |
baseline ? |
14:23 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah. |
14:23 |
ascii_field |
for whom? beggar in calcutta ? |
14:24 |
mircea_popescu |
earht average. |
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↖ |
14:24 |
ascii_field |
earth average is a bacterium. |
14:24 |
mircea_popescu |
this is what we are proceeding on, right ? "human" |
14:24 |
ascii_field |
i don't think they've invented begging yet |
14:27 |
ascii_field |
btw as a long-time reader of herr orlov, i can't help but notice that he spat on diesels and bragged about a seldom-used ('only in doldrumss') outboard petrol engine |
14:27 |
mircea_popescu |
aha |
14:27 |
ascii_field |
but then he birthed a son, and bought a boat 2x the size |
14:28 |
mircea_popescu |
i vaguely recall this, like i vaguely recall his being the sort that's "correct in the broad strokes but entirely out of small change" as the expression goes. |
14:28 |
ascii_field |
(and perhaps doesn't quite have the stamina to single-handedly operate the sails any more ?) |
14:28 |
mircea_popescu |
god help you if you start factchecking anything he says. very yarvinesque habit this |
14:28 |
ascii_field |
he wrote a whole piece about how he threw the decrepit diesel out of the original boat's bilge to make a storage room |
14:30 |
ascii_field |
for those who are ~not~ readers of mr o - his 'post-collapse future business' schtick is based on 'fossil-fuel-free freight along u.s. coasts using sailboats' |
14:31 |
ascii_field |
apparently now is not yet the time to practice this ? |
14:31 |
ascii_field |
or what, he likes the smell of diesel smoke ? |
14:32 |
funkenstein_ |
"But this is the new lay of the land; we can't change it, and we can't ignore it." |
14:32 |
mats |
har, acquaintances are receiving emails about their OPM file being compromised |
14:32 |
asciilifeform |
!up ascii_field |
14:33 |
ascii_field |
can't wait for the fake ones |
14:33 |
ascii_field |
(how do you propose to authenticate the 'leaks' ?) |
14:34 |
ascii_field |
'we ALWAYS knew he was obama's gay playmate!!11' |
14:36 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [BTR] 1000 @ 0.00111 = 1.11 BTC |
14:36 |
ascii_field |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1166431 << ftr the 'dollar a day' thing is nonsense if you compute even the most conservative monetary estimate for the 'systematic' things the beggar was born with. |
14:36 |
assbot |
Logged on 17-06-2015 18:24:08; mircea_popescu: earht average. |
14:37 |
ascii_field |
e.g., kin, street smarts learned from boyhood, etc. |
14:37 |
ascii_field |
!s gemeinschaft |
14:37 |
assbot |
1 results for 'gemeinschaft' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=gemeinschaft |
14:37 |
mircea_popescu |
ascii_field seinfeld has an episode about this fundamentally female method of authentication ("i always wanted for him to drag me by the hair in this alley and stretch my anus"). elaine explains that "Cause if we're dating, what everyone saw was just a beautiful moment between two lovers" |
14:38 |
* |
ascii_field totally perplexed |
14:38 |
mircea_popescu |
and you don't "compute the dollar equivalent value" of non-dollar things, because you're not trying to recreate the bezzle. |
14:38 |
ascii_field |
well sure |
14:38 |
mircea_popescu |
instead, you either have tyhem or fucking die. |
14:39 |
ascii_field |
but you ~also~ don't say 'beggar is living on $1/day' |
14:39 |
ascii_field |
because this is not factually correct |
14:39 |
mircea_popescu |
factually, it is correct. |
14:39 |
mircea_popescu |
politically, it is inconvenient. |
14:39 |
ascii_field |
he is living on $1 of rice + $xxxx of other-things-which-aren't-available-to-me-if-i-get-parachuted-into-calcutta |
14:39 |
mircea_popescu |
but factually, it is correct. |
14:39 |
mircea_popescu |
tough. that just means you suck |
14:39 |
mircea_popescu |
it does not mean his dollar is not a dollar. |
14:39 |
ascii_field |
on how many dollars a day does pufferfish live in the sea ? |
14:40 |
ascii_field |
even less than $1 |
14:40 |
ascii_field |
we ~all~ 'suck' compared to him ? |
14:40 |
mircea_popescu |
not a valid comparison. |
14:40 |
funkenstein_ |
just not as free |
14:40 |
mircea_popescu |
you are proposing the indian is not human now ? |
14:40 |
ascii_field |
not a category i deal with |
14:40 |
ascii_field |
because not idempotent |
14:40 |
mircea_popescu |
let me put it this way : |
14:40 |
ascii_field |
(as shown above) |
14:41 |
ascii_field |
he cannot funciton in my element. or i - in his. like the fish. |
14:41 |
funkenstein_ |
the calcutttan has no option to go to supermarket dumpster |
14:41 |
mircea_popescu |
the notion that you are anything different from the calcutta beggar may be contemplatef IF and ONLY IF you never have to wonder what'd you do in calcutta. |
14:41 |
mircea_popescu |
otherwise, a dollar a day. |
14:41 |
ascii_field |
ever contemplate what you'll do 1km below the sea? |
14:41 |
mircea_popescu |
never have to wonder either because you know or it can't happen, but never have to wonder. |
14:41 |
ascii_field |
can easily happen |
14:41 |
ascii_field |
boats sink |
14:41 |
mircea_popescu |
i'd drown. |
14:41 |
ascii_field |
and so do airplanes |
14:42 |
ascii_field |
aha, drown like gentleman ! (Tm) (R) (brit empire) |
14:42 |
mircea_popescu |
what would you do ? |
14:42 |
ascii_field |
same! |
14:42 |
mircea_popescu |
compute the dollar value ? |
14:42 |
mircea_popescu |
so then |
14:42 |
ascii_field |
bubble a bit. |
14:42 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
14:42 |
ascii_field |
i imagine i'd bubble a bit in calcutta as well, before going under. |
14:43 |
ascii_field |
(for how long is anyone's guess) |
14:45 |
ascii_field |
but i don't imagine that i'll learn to breathe water and become kind of the ocean in a few weeks. and if mircea_popescu can do this, we should all learn from him. |
14:45 |
ascii_field |
*king |
14:45 |
mircea_popescu |
the ocean has nothing to do with it. |
14:49 |
ascii_field |
obligatory old thread >> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-04-2015#1094169 |
14:49 |
assbot |
Logged on 09-04-2015 20:47:43; ascii_field: mircea_popescu could convince an eskimo that he is an eskimo ? |
14:51 |
punkman |
http://ftalphaville.ft.com/2015/06/16/2132043/bitcoin-opec-favours-8mb-blocksize-increase/ |
14:51 |
assbot |
Bitcoin Opec favours 8MB blocksize increase | FT Alphaville ... ( http://bit.ly/1GPnQVq ) |
14:52 |
ascii_field |
^^ does not display for me |
14:52 |
ascii_field |
punkman ^ |
14:52 |
ascii_field |
dpaste plz ? |
14:52 |
punkman |
http://dpaste.com/1R2X0V7 |
14:52 |
assbot |
dpaste: 1R2X0V7 ... ( http://bit.ly/1GPo5Qu ) |
14:52 |
ascii_field |
ty punkman |
14:53 |
punkman |
"opec"... |
14:53 |
scoopbot_revived |
Eulora Resurgent http://trilema.com/2015/eulora-resurgent/ |
14:53 |
ascii_field |
lulz. 'bitcoin opec.' where is bitcoin nato? is it invading ru yet ? |
14:53 |
ascii_field |
and what of the bitcoin vatican ? |
14:53 |
ascii_field |
does it bugger boys ? |
14:53 |
mircea_popescu |
wtf is "opec" |
14:54 |
ascii_field |
www.opec.org << the usual opec ? |
14:54 |
mircea_popescu |
can these gawker-clones be any more fucking retarded already ?> |
14:54 |
mircea_popescu |
by now they're reporting nonsense out of a whjolly imagined pseudoreality |
14:54 |
ascii_field |
mircea_popescu: and they were not, 2+ yrs ago ? |
14:55 |
ascii_field |
it was ~always~ a pseudoreality, from at least william randolph hearst and up |
14:55 |
ascii_field |
just that they previously had more luck with gluing pseudoreality-display helmets on people's heads |
14:55 |
mircea_popescu |
there's a lot of difference between the mild idiocy of hearst and the down syndrome of "ft alphaville" etc |
14:56 |
mircea_popescu |
about the same as between the calcutta beggar and the pufferfish |
14:56 |
ascii_field |
more like the diff b/w/ mild eccentricity and full blown schizo |
14:56 |
mircea_popescu |
right. |
14:57 |
ascii_field |
'The bitcoin miners of China agree that the blocksize must be increased' << l0l wat? said who ? |
14:57 |
mircea_popescu |
in other news a display campaign for eulora started today, if any people called Eulorian show up treat 'em mildly. and if no such show up, well... it just goes to show the value of advertising. |
14:57 |
mircea_popescu |
ascii_field "ft alphaville" |
14:58 |
ascii_field |
incidentally, who even has a crashless validating node with 1mb blocks |
14:58 |
ascii_field |
(other than us) |
14:58 |
ascii_field |
speaking of which, |
14:58 |
ascii_field |
mod6: how are those test rigs doing ? |
14:59 |
ascii_field |
ben_vulpes: ^ ? |
14:59 |
ascii_field |
other sappers ? |
14:59 |
mircea_popescu |
ascii_field "the bitcoin miners of china" say that they never saw software that doesn't crash |
14:59 |
ascii_field |
who is ready for the next cut of the scalpel ? |
14:59 |
mircea_popescu |
how do you know it's software if you don't reboot it ? |
15:00 |
ascii_field |
how do you know washing machine is plugged in if you don't get shocks from touching the chassis ? |
15:00 |
mircea_popescu |
ikr ? |
15:02 |
punkman |
the stamped "bitcoin opec" document http://i.imgur.com/JUnQcue.jpg |
15:02 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1SoP4Gl ) |
15:02 |
ascii_field |
sometimes i wonder if folks in cn are ~actually~ batshit (mega-mines on winblows, etc) or just convincingly faking it |
15:02 |
mircea_popescu |
ascii_field if you had more experience chasing gaw/bfl/assorted mining scams |
15:02 |
mircea_popescu |
you'd be in a better position to grasp the depth of this chasm of a dilemma |
15:03 |
mircea_popescu |
generally speaking they are both. |
15:03 |
mircea_popescu |
!up ascii_field |
15:03 |
mircea_popescu |
ahahaha what the shit red star stamps srsly ?! |
15:04 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, the validity of the stamps would be trivial to verify, if of course anyone still gave a shit about the nonsense scampress publishes. |
15:04 |
ascii_field |
mircea_popescu: l0l! |
15:04 |
ascii_field |
you know what those are??!?! |
15:04 |
ascii_field |
import stamps! |
15:04 |
ascii_field |
i have some here |
15:04 |
mircea_popescu |
but 500 failures in... hey, wasn't ethereum all over everything ? |
15:04 |
ascii_field |
from 'golden phenix' |
15:04 |
ascii_field |
same red start |
15:04 |
ascii_field |
those are customs-inspector stamps |
15:04 |
mircea_popescu |
ascii_field yes i know what those are, i pay five to six figures to china each month k ? |
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15:05 |
ascii_field |
anyone with a fucking potato can lift it |
15:05 |
ascii_field |
aha |
15:05 |
mircea_popescu |
unlike apparently everyone on the retard side, i actually have some business experience |
15:05 |
ascii_field |
even a schmuck like me has a fat manila full of these stamps. |
15:05 |
* |
mircea_popescu sits here and wonders if neobee, king of cypruss, agrees for cypruss to join the increase movement. |
15:06 |
ascii_field |
and did i just land in my grandfather's office in 1985 , fell through time warp? how did we come to wonder about authenticity of fucking soviet rubber stamps ?! |
15:06 |
mircea_popescu |
iirc according to financial times, they took over cyprus right ? |
15:06 |
mircea_popescu |
ascii_field we are dealing with ~= the same idiots. |
15:06 |
mircea_popescu |
later generation, unimproved. |
15:09 |
funkenstein_ |
looks to me like they are saying they won't take anything bigger than 8MB, because their tubes are too small |
15:09 |
mircea_popescu |
i remember a day, not so many years ago, when people actually went on trips to check out claims of "hey i goit some images in photoshop" miners. how much things have changed in these few short years... |
15:10 |
mircea_popescu |
from the log, "I think we will close this thread as there is nothing more to discuss. This is not about democracy or censorship, but about keeping our hobby alive without authorities enforcing new laws in order to limit ADS-B usage." |
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15:11 |
mircea_popescu |
fucking ridiculous. "oh, we will get a bitcoin license to keep our hobby alive!11" |
15:11 |
mircea_popescu |
fuck you, fucking hobbists |
15:11 |
mircea_popescu |
the world does not belong to people "doing it ironically" |
15:11 |
mircea_popescu |
who ever heard of this, change the rules of the sport so people following at home can be more comfortable. |
15:12 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1165993 << i lolled. |
15:12 |
assbot |
Logged on 17-06-2015 13:58:39; asciilifeform: and often there are interesting hidden costs. for instance, i am somewhat limited in what surplus junk i can use on account of lacking 3-phase mains power |
15:13 |
ascii_field |
^ said mircea_popescu as he sizzled in his very own private 3-phase electric chair |
15:13 |
ascii_field |
luxuriously |
15:15 |
ascii_field |
(point of that observation was, 3-phase mains and climate-controlled floor sq. metrage do not become cheaper no matter how 'surplussy' the equipment gets) |
15:17 |
ascii_field |
'speaks volumes for the actual “democracy” in the system. (Namely, there isn’t any. China — the Saudi Arabia of bitcoin — dominates.' <<< l0l!!! this of course is same party line as in mike hearn's blatherings about 'let's separate the economy majority of bitcoin from the whims of the hashing majority' |
15:17 |
ascii_field |
*economic |
15:18 |
ascii_field |
'we usg gnomes are to have control, because fuck you and ~democracy~ and also fuck you' |
15:24 |
ascii_field |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1166571 << many usg subjects see the crown in much the same light as little children see their demented violent alcoholic father |
15:24 |
assbot |
Logged on 17-06-2015 19:10:50; mircea_popescu: from the log, "I think we will close this thread as there is nothing more to discuss. This is not about democracy or censorship, but about keeping our hobby alive without authorities enforcing new laws in order to limit ADS-B usage." |
15:24 |
ascii_field |
'please don't upset him, you know what happens' |
15:27 |
ascii_field |
other thing is |
15:27 |
ascii_field |
what, precisely, would be the mechanism for encrypting airplane callsigns ? |
15:27 |
ascii_field |
sent to public key with private modulus kept in every airport? |
15:28 |
ascii_field |
what about non-nato airports ? |
15:29 |
ascii_field |
why shouldn't ru air defense battery open up with all barrels on a 'mystery meat' airplane which won't identify owner ? |
15:29 |
ascii_field |
like that korean tub |
15:29 |
danielpbarron |
menahem, your paypal doesn't work and your bitcoin wants me to send to an invalid address |
15:29 |
menahem |
danielpbarron i just saw |
15:29 |
menahem |
not sure why I got the error, lemme double check quick. my apologies. |
15:30 |
danielpbarron |
it redirected me to sandbox.paypal.com which tells me that my password is incorrect |
15:30 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15050 @ 0.00044528 = 6.7015 BTC [+] {2} |
15:30 |
menahem |
ok ty. i'll be back shortly. |
15:30 |
danielpbarron |
and by "invalid address" i mean that i'm not about to do business with someone who insists I acknowledge "multi sig" is a thing |
15:31 |
ascii_field |
;;later tell mircea_popescu mega-lulz >> http://cryptome.org/2015/06/masses-goats-dogs.pdf >> http://dpaste.com/1Z43RQN.txt |
15:31 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1GPtUNU ) |
15:31 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1GPtSFM ) |
15:31 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
15:31 |
mircea_popescu |
ascii_field it reads to me like a very plain "let's try and hijack b-a by pretending a bigger ba exists somewhere exotic and we are the only ones able to translate its red star stamps" |
15:31 |
mircea_popescu |
which is... endearing. |
15:32 |
ascii_field |
usg sop. |
15:32 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway. i'll allow the shitmedia to set the discussion agenda the morning after i let gavin impregnate my wife. |
15:32 |
ascii_field |
l0l |
15:33 |
thestringpuller |
!up ascii_field |
15:34 |
mircea_popescu |
no but srsly, who wouldn't want retarded children looking like him. |
15:34 |
thestringpuller |
mircea_popescu: BIP-100 looks like it will create Garzik coin. |
15:36 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1166007 << the junior high alf went to... :D |
15:36 |
assbot |
Logged on 17-06-2015 14:03:47; asciilifeform: (does 'mean free path' mean anything to you ? or slept in 4th grade ?) |
15:37 |
* |
funkenstein_ has heard tell of a time when people wrote RFCs |
15:38 |
ascii_field |
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/kinetic/menfre.html |
15:38 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1GPuKdu ) |
15:38 |
mircea_popescu |
!up WvuSoldier |
15:39 |
WvuSoldier |
ty |
15:39 |
thestringpuller |
I like how they publicized BIP-100 with "This won't require a hardfork" while the PDF clearly states "Oh yea guise we need to remove the cap completely to make this change." |
15:40 |
* |
ascii_field now wonders what mircea_popescu gets from cn by the tanker-load |
15:40 |
ascii_field |
( http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1166559 ) |
15:40 |
assbot |
Logged on 17-06-2015 19:04:54; mircea_popescu: ascii_field yes i know what those are, i pay five to six figures to china each month k ? |
15:40 |
mircea_popescu |
ascii_field vacuums not my forte, but is the following ever done : have a solid cylinder separated into two closed rooms by piston. fill one room with chemical compounds in liquid pahse which react, so the resultant volume is lower. |
15:40 |
mircea_popescu |
theoretically should vacuum the other room to soem degree |
15:41 |
ascii_field |
react endothermically, and forming a solid ? |
15:41 |
mircea_popescu |
for instance |
15:41 |
ascii_field |
this is done in the craft of making vacuum tubes. (recall the shiny metal in the top of the tube?) |
15:41 |
mircea_popescu |
aha |
15:41 |
ascii_field |
called 'getter' |
15:42 |
ascii_field |
typically - cesium. |
15:42 |
ascii_field |
important not only for residual gas in the tube after pumping, but also because the electrodes sputter |
15:43 |
ascii_field |
(vapour pressure in the tube ~will~ go up with time unless the gas has somewhere to get stuck in) |
15:44 |
mircea_popescu |
no such thing as infinitely bound material yet discovered |
15:44 |
mircea_popescu |
should go in there same pile as ideal conductor |
15:45 |
ascii_field |
aha |
15:45 |
ascii_field |
even glass has vapour pressure at stp ! |
15:46 |
ascii_field |
see the epic saga of 'polywater' |
15:46 |
jurov |
iirc graphene is impervious even to helium |
15:46 |
mircea_popescu |
it will still scater atoms |
15:46 |
mircea_popescu |
this is a quantum necessity. |
15:47 |
mircea_popescu |
(for fun and games the trainee qm folk in attendance are invited to set up either the matrix or the waveform so that probability of solid losing atoms into gas at border is zero, see what happens) |
15:47 |
ascii_field |
l0l! |
15:49 |
ascii_field |
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2013/11/polywater_history_and_science_mistakes_the_u_s_and_ussr_raced_to_create.html << a not-especially-great english review of the 'polywater' story. |
15:49 |
assbot |
Polywater history and science mistakes: The U.S. and USSR raced to create a new form of water. ... ( http://bit.ly/1GPwcfK ) |
15:49 |
mircea_popescu |
is this the very thick water ? |
15:50 |
ascii_field |
aha |
15:50 |
ascii_field |
the one in which the glass vessels themselves dissolved a little. |
15:50 |
mircea_popescu |
i recall family friend being very insulted by my dad laughing his ass off |
15:50 |
ascii_field |
(along with other room crud) |
15:53 |
ascii_field |
in other news, i dreamed last night that ft meade had been turned into a kind of city-state, and i came through it for some peculiar reason. it very crowded and full of rough-looking folks, like d.c. subway. went into a pub, full of demented old beggars, and pulled out a wad of 'nsa money' - shit-brown 'hundies' with portraits of some senator on them. in return got glass of water. |
15:53 |
scoopbot_revived |
Examinations vs. the Yeshiva http://www.contravex.com/2015/06/17/examinations-vs-the-yeshiva/ |
15:54 |
ascii_field |
there was some utterly deranged bloke yelling 'buy me a bed!!!' |
15:55 |
mircea_popescu |
sounds like you would enjoy playing fallout |
15:55 |
ascii_field |
i did. |
15:58 |
mircea_popescu |
;;later tell pete_dushenski the hunag fellow is exactly the right example. i even hinted at him but never mentionmed the name when discussiong o'brian idiocy in 1984 and how the rebellion properly works. |
15:58 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
15:58 |
mircea_popescu |
always a pleasure to see people able to refer to the right source material. |
15:58 |
cazalla |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1166044 <<< check the aussie national skill shortage and come down under.. i've never been to choina but i'm guessing down under is a bit better |
15:58 |
assbot |
Logged on 17-06-2015 14:39:34; mats: will probably end up moving back to mainland |
16:02 |
ascii_field |
'(875 – 884 AD) when Huang Ch’ao, a powerful young heir to a family fortune, was unable to pass the rigorous exams needed to become a licentiate. He responded by selling salt on the black market and using the funds to organise a secret society with which he incited rebellions that massacred nobles and officials and nearly, thought not quite, brought down the ruling entire dynasty.' << this has been my secret crackp |
16:02 |
ascii_field |
ipe dream since uni, yes. |
16:02 |
ascii_field |
i specifically wish to drive the bulldozer personally |
16:02 |
mats |
lol |
16:03 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
16:04 |
asciilifeform |
!up ascii_field |
16:04 |
mircea_popescu |
ascii_field is emerging like quite the tragic, byronian hero. on one hand, wishes to drive the dozer, on the other hand, wishes to have a place for noli tangere. |
16:04 |
mircea_popescu |
should be a libretto. |
16:05 |
ascii_field |
hey, marvin heemeyer did both! |
16:05 |
mircea_popescu |
why stop there. |
16:05 |
mircea_popescu |
do three things. |
16:05 |
ascii_field |
http://marvin-heemeyer.com |
16:05 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1GPy7RA ) |
16:05 |
mircea_popescu |
while juggling pregnant seals. |
16:06 |
ascii_field |
elephants. |
16:06 |
mircea_popescu |
seals pregnant with elephants ? |
16:08 |
ascii_field |
with walruses. |
16:10 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla BingoBoingo http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3a6m7i/a_prepostmortem_on_bitpay/ << check it out, you're now thought leaders of teh community |
16:10 |
assbot |
A pre-post-mortem on BitPay : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1GPyUlC ) |
16:19 |
ascii_field |
speaking of vacuum 'diffusion pumps' - apparently there are firms selling them, from old uni chem kits, as 'bongs' to smoke weed from |
16:20 |
ascii_field |
e.g., http://mellowmood.com/bates-x-worm |
16:20 |
assbot |
Bates x Worm - Mellow Mood ... ( http://bit.ly/1GgbK2U ) |
16:20 |
thestringpuller |
great find mircea_popescu |
16:21 |
thestringpuller |
"It’s like an economy where the investment is coming from some external country where Silicon Valley becomes like the Bitcoin equivalent of People’s Bank of China." << because Nefario ruined it for everyone |
16:21 |
menahem |
danielpbarron PayPal is up - had it in test mode. My bad. |
16:22 |
ascii_field |
it was the diffusion pump (esp. langmuir's improved one) which allowed the whole vacuum tube thing to happen in the first place. |
16:23 |
mircea_popescu |
!up blazes816 |
16:23 |
shinohai |
All these pools http://redd.it/3a5qj5 |
16:23 |
assbot |
Draft signed by F2Pool, Antpool, BW, BTCChina, Huobi committing them to a 8MB increase. : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ggc6qu ) |
16:23 |
mircea_popescu |
see teh logs. |
16:24 |
shinohai |
will do. I have tons of reading to catch up on this evening. |
16:25 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59300 @ 0.00044529 = 26.4057 BTC [+] |
16:25 |
cazalla |
shinohai, lol that image reminds me of another which someone on bitcointalk claimed to be a police report regarding asicminer thefts.. turned out to be a birth certificate or something |
16:25 |
shinohai |
LOLZ |
16:29 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23400 @ 0.00043172 = 10.1022 BTC [-] {2} |
16:32 |
TheNewDeal |
how bad of any idea is it to short btc/ltc over a short term period |
16:33 |
ben_vulpes |
hey, the tradetalk's back! |
16:33 |
TheNewDeal |
-y |
16:33 |
ascii_field |
TheNewDeal: ltc still exists ?! |
16:33 |
TheNewDeal |
oddly enough, aye |
16:34 |
mircea_popescu |
TheNewDeal not worse or better than ever |
16:34 |
asciilifeform |
!up ascii_field |
16:40 |
ben_vulpes |
aha is midnightmagic derping on about things beyond his ken today? |
16:40 |
ben_vulpes |
or yessterday or something? |
16:41 |
ascii_field |
worst of all, he gave me an intractable urge to blow glass |
16:43 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00044529 = 5.2544 BTC [+] |
16:44 |
kakobrekla |
maybe procedures in experimental physics did it |
16:44 |
ascii_field |
sure did |
16:53 |
ben_vulpes |
<asciilifeform> also the gurl has valuable illiquid asset. << not so valuable if illiquid |
16:53 |
mircea_popescu |
hahaha |
16:53 |
mircea_popescu |
read the logs :D |
16:54 |
shinohai |
13-06-2015 00:30:49 <asciilifeform> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-06-2015#1162846 << gotta love usg. always 'chinese wreckers stole,' never 'microshit turdows spilled' (agrees) |
16:54 |
assbot |
Logged on 12-06-2015 23:44:37; trinque: http://m.phys.org/_news353350213.html |
16:55 |
ben_vulpes |
can't read whole log without responding |
16:55 |
mircea_popescu |
just pulling your leg over here |
16:56 |
ben_vulpes |
s/without/before |
16:56 |
ben_vulpes |
what is it? great artists steal? |
16:57 |
ascii_field |
achtung, panzers: |
16:57 |
ascii_field |
http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-June/000098.html |
16:57 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1JYM5RY ) |
16:59 |
shinohai |
ty asciilifeform |
16:59 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1166048 << well i don't know so many people in china, so... good news :D |
16:59 |
assbot |
Logged on 17-06-2015 14:40:42; mats: mainland china |
16:59 |
mircea_popescu |
ascii_field aha |
17:01 |
ascii_field |
ben_vulpes: i would like to nominate above patch (and its dependency, dns-seed-remover) for mainline |
17:01 |
shinohai |
I haven't applied those patches yet :/ |
17:01 |
ben_vulpes |
noted |
17:01 |
ascii_field |
shinohai: the linked patch is 5 minutes old |
17:01 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1166066 << this is a strict function of sexual promiscuity in my experience. being chaste is pretty suicidal at all times other than during the age of boredom |
17:01 |
assbot |
Logged on 17-06-2015 14:47:41; jurov: also, i don't get how anyone in this age can *not* have some foreign acquaintances that one can be sure to not throw him under the bus |
17:02 |
ben_vulpes |
i'm still working to get the damn thing to build on ubuntu |
17:02 |
mircea_popescu |
ben_vulpes 10.04 |
17:02 |
mircea_popescu |
? |
17:02 |
shinohai |
@ ben_vulpes it built fine for me on 14.4 |
17:02 |
ben_vulpes |
most recently, boost failed to install because its html document rendering facility was b0rked in ubuntu somewhere and the whole thing fell over |
17:03 |
shinohai |
*14.04 lts |
17:03 |
mircea_popescu |
hahahah |
17:03 |
mircea_popescu |
"my car crashed because there was a flyer in a window painted in green letters" |
17:03 |
shinohai |
But I must ask, why Ubuntu? |
17:03 |
mircea_popescu |
because it means anal friendship in african. |
17:03 |
ascii_field |
^ i had similar barf from openssl |
17:05 |
asciilifeform |
!up ascii_field |
17:06 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1166096 >> nah, that's a different dimension. chocolate spontaneously combusts |
17:06 |
assbot |
Logged on 17-06-2015 14:57:39; asciilifeform: can i get real (read: ru or identical) chocolate there? at what cost/gram ? |
17:06 |
mircea_popescu |
this is how the locals know if it's any good |
17:06 |
ascii_field |
l0l |
17:07 |
ascii_field |
and yes, i know that mircea_popescu can get ru chocolate delivered via biplane right to his dirigible in antarctica. |
17:07 |
ascii_field |
doesn't apply to my case. |
17:07 |
mircea_popescu |
yea, you never ordered anything online |
17:07 |
mircea_popescu |
all those dongs were bought at indian candy's chocolateria |
17:09 |
ascii_field |
said the fella living in can't-order-anything-online-land |
17:09 |
mircea_popescu |
ikr? |
17:09 |
mircea_popescu |
tbh i never ordered anything online in romania, either. |
17:09 |
mircea_popescu |
i don't even order takeout |
17:09 |
ascii_field |
i barely ever get anything in any other way |
17:10 |
ascii_field |
(because wtf, leaving house, and paying tax?!?!) |
17:10 |
shinohai |
If Amazon delivered groceries in my area, I might never leave home. |
17:12 |
cazalla |
shinohai, the two main supermarket chains in australia do this.. and it's how they get rid of the rest of their shitty produce |
17:12 |
ascii_field |
i'd get toilet paper, etc. on 'amazon' if it weren't for the fact that everything you buy affects your 'recommendations' |
17:13 |
ascii_field |
and i don't want to see ads for shitpaper in my mailbox |
17:13 |
shinohai |
I like farmers markets though. Fresh organic veggies if possible. |
17:13 |
ascii_field |
produce over mail is a nonstarter |
17:13 |
ascii_field |
(for morons - sure) |
17:15 |
mircea_popescu |
ascii_field myeah, uber does seem like the usgs last gasp effort to "socialism" the cabbuie business |
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17:15 |
mircea_popescu |
which i would loathe, as i routinely reject living anywhere with shitty cabs |
17:15 |
ascii_field |
the cabs in usa sucked before. |
17:15 |
mircea_popescu |
boston was ok |
17:15 |
mircea_popescu |
ny was even above par. |
17:15 |
mircea_popescu |
the west coast never interested me much |
17:15 |
jurov |
have amazon buttons? |
17:15 |
mircea_popescu |
texas was great. |
17:17 |
ascii_field |
mircea_popescu: know that 'uber' etc. is an attempt to 'proletarianize' cabs. as they normally are so costly here that they are beyond the regular use of all but the richest |
17:18 |
ascii_field |
(e.g., an hour's ride might cost a whole benjie) |
17:18 |
mircea_popescu |
i dunno dood. what was it, two-three bucks a mile ? |
17:18 |
kakobrekla |
going 600 miles per hour obviously |
17:18 |
mircea_popescu |
germany is ridoinculous with their 5 euro a km bs, but then again germany is usually walkable. |
17:19 |
mircea_popescu |
how much would they have to pay ME to spend an hour in a cab with any regularity ? |
17:20 |
ascii_field |
airport much ? |
17:20 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah, five times a year. |
17:20 |
ascii_field |
so there you go |
17:21 |
jurov |
i don't remember using taxi from/to airport |
17:22 |
ascii_field |
the cabs in b-a blew my mind |
17:22 |
ascii_field |
(because cheap) |
17:22 |
mircea_popescu |
the half hour typical ride is what, five bux |
17:22 |
ascii_field |
in wash., d.c. ?! nope |
17:22 |
ascii_field |
opening the fucking door costs >5bux |
17:23 |
ascii_field |
http://dctaxi.dc.gov/page/taxicab-fares << 3.25 according to official table |
17:24 |
kakobrekla |
lol at that price list |
17:26 |
ascii_field |
it would cost me ~$80 to get home in a cab right now. |
17:26 |
ascii_field |
(assuming ~empty~ roads) |
17:26 |
thestringpuller |
ascii_field: i thought you didn't drive |
17:26 |
ascii_field |
thestringpuller: i drive 2-4 hrs/day. |
17:27 |
thestringpuller |
how have you not killed someone? |
17:27 |
thestringpuller |
(Via rage) |
17:27 |
ascii_field |
almost half as long as a cabbie drives |
17:27 |
thestringpuller |
is there traffic? |
17:27 |
kakobrekla |
how many miles ? |
17:29 |
mats |
http://www.opm.gov/our-inspector-general/reports/2014/federal-information-security-management-act-audit-fy-2014-4a-ci-00-14-016.pdf |
17:29 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1N3RR4X ) |
17:29 |
ascii_field |
thestringpuller: so much traffic 'can eat with arse' |
17:30 |
thestringpuller |
sounds like DC or LA... |
17:30 |
mod6 |
<+ascii_field> mod6: how are those test rigs doing ? < << If you mean the bitcoin-v0.5.3.1-RELEASE + patch(s) { Orphanage Thermonuke + TX Orphanage Amputation }, they were performed on AWS deb6 instance and have since been shutdown after full sync & performance tests completed. Main reason being to dig into compiling v0.5.3.1 + gentoo sanity patches with uclibc on Gentoo on AWS Gentoo instance. I try to only run one instance at a time to keep mo |
17:30 |
ascii_field |
kakobrekla: ~70/day assuming i go nowhere else (buying food, detours around jams, etc) |
17:30 |
kakobrekla |
2-4 hrs for 70 miles |
17:30 |
kakobrekla |
sad. |
17:30 |
shinohai |
mod6 my nide is still humming fine |
17:31 |
mod6 |
I could start it back up again and do something else if you like. But have finally gotten a guide created for Gentoo on Physical hardware. It needs 2 general tweaks (to be put in tonight) before I hand over to hanbot for testing. |
17:31 |
shinohai |
*nide |
17:31 |
shinohai |
I hate touchscreen keyboards. I really do. |
17:31 |
thestringpuller |
ascii_field: damn. 20 mph average speed?!? i would have to pop anxiety pills. |
17:31 |
ascii_field |
kakobrekla: the sad is in having to leave home at all. everything else is just little cherries on top of the sadcake |
17:32 |
mats |
We were told in an interview that OPM's Network Management Group (NMG) performs monthly vulnerability scans using automated scanning tools. The OIG is unable to independently verify that OPM has a mature vulnerability scanning program. However, we have been unable to obtain tangible evidence that vulnerability scans have been routinely conducted for all |
17:32 |
mats |
OPM servers in FY 2014… NMG has documented accepted weaknesses for OPM user workstations; however, it has not fully documented weaknesses for servers or databases (i.e., vulnerability scan findings that are justified by a business need). This recommendation remains open from FY 2011 and is rolled forward in FY 2014. |
17:32 |
mod6 |
So once the Guides are handed over to hanbot, I'll refocus my attention to patching gcc 4.8.4 on Gentoo to see if we can get around that bug that we were discussing the other day. |
17:32 |
ascii_field |
mod6: which bug ? |
17:33 |
mod6 |
lemme find the logs.. |
17:34 |
mod6 |
well, nevermind that. this one: |
17:34 |
mod6 |
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-gentoo-linux-uclibc/4.8.4/../../../../x86_64-gentoo-linux-uclibc/bin/ld: /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-gentoo-linux-uclibc/4.8.4/../../../libc.a(jmp-unwind.os): relocation R_X86_64_PC32 against undefined symbol `__GI___pthread_cleanup_upto' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC |
17:36 |
mod6 |
!up ascii_field |
17:39 |
mod6 |
<+shinohai> mod6 my nide is still humming fine << cool. is that the ubuntu one? |
17:39 |
shinohai |
Nah the Debian one, I built Ubuntu on a friends server |
17:41 |
mod6 |
ahh. ok. |
17:42 |
shinohai |
The Deb one stays up all the time, I just leave it running since I need a daemon anyway. |
17:49 |
mod6 |
good deal :] |
17:54 |
mats |
http://www.wsj.com/articles/colt-defense-to-file-for-chapter-11-bankruptcy-protection-by-monday-1434310925 |
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17:54 |
assbot |
Colt Defense Files for Chapter 11 Bankruptcy Protection - WSJ ... ( http://bit.ly/1N3X24H ) |
17:55 |
mats |
http://time.com/3923842/putin-kubinka-moscow-patriot-park-russia-opens-a-military-playground-for-the-patriotic |
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↖ ↖ |
17:55 |
assbot |
Russia Opens 'Patriot' Theme Park to Showcase MIlitary Prowess ... ( http://bit.ly/1N3XkbR ) |
17:58 |
ascii_field |
achtung, panzers! |
17:58 |
ascii_field |
http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-June/000099.html |
17:58 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1N3XRe2 ) |
17:58 |
ascii_field |
ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al ^ |
17:58 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45800 @ 0.00043298 = 19.8305 BTC [-] |
17:59 |
ascii_field |
picture little gavins squealing on a chopping block. |
18:00 |
ascii_field |
does it not warm your cold iron heart !? |
18:00 |
ascii_field |
i'm half-certain that last one actually removes a vuln |
18:02 |
* |
mod6 looks |
18:03 |
mod6 |
ah cool :] |
18:04 |
ascii_field |
this is part of a sequence of patches which depend on one another |
18:04 |
ascii_field |
(dns seed remover, hard seed remover, and now showmyip,com-remover) |
18:04 |
ascii_field |
next one will nuke all dns lookups entirely |
18:04 |
mod6 |
yup, i see that. thanks for linking them in the patch emails. |
18:05 |
mod6 |
great work ascii. |
18:05 |
ascii_field |
these are given in separate patches for ease of review |
18:05 |
mod6 |
*nod* |
18:05 |
mod6 |
makes sense. thanks. |
18:05 |
ascii_field |
i consider this to be a necessary thing |
18:05 |
mod6 |
yeah, that stuff is 100% cruft. |
18:05 |
ascii_field |
i.e. everything inside a patch file must pertain only to what was 'printed on the box', and vice-versa. |
18:07 |
mod6 |
!up ascii_field |
18:07 |
ascii_field |
ty mod6 |
18:07 |
mats |
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2015-06/18/c_134335445.htm |
18:07 |
assbot |
China, Russia to increase bilateral investment, financial cooperation - Xinhua | English.news.cn ... ( http://bit.ly/1N3ZyrI ) |
18:08 |
mod6 |
np. so, i'm gonna keep focus on this Gentoo GCC patching stuff for the time being. But meanwhile I do that on my POS box (Now running Gentoo AMD64 hardened w/uclibc), I can shutdown the Gentoo aws instance and fire-up a deb6 test with these new patches before the end of the month I'm sure. |
18:09 |
ascii_field |
mod6: might wanna wait for the final nail in the dns coffin |
18:09 |
mod6 |
That's fine. Take your time. It won't take long to get that going anyway. |
18:10 |
shinohai |
17:59 +ascii_fieldpicture little gavins squealing on a chopping block. <<< This |
18:10 |
mod6 |
:] |
18:11 |
mats |
'Obama admitted that nine months into the U.S.-led coalition's campaign against the IS, there is not a complete strategy to combat the group. "We don't yet have a complete strategy," Obama said at the end of a G-7 summit in Germany' |
18:25 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20205 @ 0.00042666 = 8.6207 BTC [-] {3} |
18:38 |
mod6 |
!up ascii_field |
18:39 |
ascii_field |
to fully scrub out the dns invocations, will have to make the irc connector configurable on command line |
18:39 |
ascii_field |
this will be a substantial change in default behaviour, because the thing ~will~ have to be given irc server params on command line, and/or seed ips, or ~will not run~ |
18:40 |
ascii_field |
i'm in favour of keeping the irc mechanism for now, because it will handily transplant to gossipd |
18:41 |
ascii_field |
but if anyone can make a good case for its removal (remember that presently it is also the source of node knowing own external ipv4 !!!) please say. |
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18:59 |
ascii_field |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1166824 << apparently dead instantly on account of losing favour with usg. |
18:59 |
assbot |
Logged on 17-06-2015 21:54:21; mats: http://www.wsj.com/articles/colt-defense-to-file-for-chapter-11-bankruptcy-protection-by-monday-1434310925 |
19:00 |
ascii_field |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1166826 << famous tank museum |
19:00 |
assbot |
Logged on 17-06-2015 21:55:45; mats: http://time.com/3923842/putin-kubinka-moscow-patriot-park-russia-opens-a-military-playground-for-the-patriotic |
19:03 |
mats |
mighta had a chance if privately owned by black disabled lesbian |
19:03 |
mats |
o, can't forget veteran |
19:03 |
ascii_field |
'Following a drawn-out and contentious bidding war, Colt lost its contract to provide the Pentagon with M4 rifles in 2013. The $77 million contract went instead to a Belgian company, F.N. Herstal.' |
19:03 |
ascii_field |
^ l0l!! |
19:03 |
ascii_field |
and when belgium is overrun again? |
19:04 |
ascii_field |
i imagine they will have to ask for new bids. |
19:05 |
mod6 |
<+ascii_field> to fully scrub out the dns invocations, will have to make the irc connector configurable on command line << not that this has to be the case now, but perhaps this could be done in the config file too. |
19:05 |
mats |
not the first time Colt has lost a contract to F.N. Herstal |
19:05 |
ascii_field |
mod6: config file or commandline |
19:05 |
ascii_field |
but ~somewhere~ |
19:05 |
mod6 |
<+ascii_field> i'm in favour of keeping the irc mechanism for now, because it will handily transplant to gossipd << i'm with you here... although, just looking through irc.cpp again.. im not sure how much of that would carry over anyhow. |
19:05 |
ascii_field |
after this, there will be no default seed |
19:06 |
mod6 |
<+ascii_field> but ~somewhere~ << yup, gotcha. just putting in my 0.00000002 |
19:07 |
mats |
also not the first time they've filed for bankruptcy |
19:09 |
kakobrekla |
would a dedi ba seed be welcome? |
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19:10 |
mod6 |
<+mod6> <+ascii_field> i'm in favour of keeping the irc mechanism for now, because it will handily transplant to gossipd << i'm with you here... although, just looking through irc.cpp again.. im not sure how much of that would carry over anyhow. << regardless, it doesn't mean we have to rip it out this minute. how insane of an idea is it to just snip out the checkip.dyndns.org parts and add a commandline/configfile arg to specify external ip for |
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19:10 |
mod6 |
<+kakobrekla> would a dedi ba seed be welcome << yeah, i think that's the idea eventually. |
19:14 |
mod6 |
oop |
19:14 |
mod6 |
!up ascii_field |
19:17 |
ascii_field |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1166883 << we'll need more than one |
19:17 |
assbot |
Logged on 17-06-2015 23:09:27; kakobrekla: would a dedi ba seed be welcome? |
19:17 |
ascii_field |
and it makes no sense to even try before the leak-stoppage patches are ratified |
19:17 |
ascii_field |
(i don't want ~anything~ to do with a leaking node) |
19:21 |
ascii_field |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1166884 << you can ~already~ specify seeds on cmdline and config! all that remains is the removal of the built-in seeder crap |
19:21 |
assbot |
Logged on 17-06-2015 23:10:19; mod6: <+mod6> <+ascii_field> i'm in favour of keeping the irc mechanism for now, because it will handily transplant to gossipd << i'm with you here... although, just looking through irc.cpp again.. im not sure how much of that would carry over anyhow. << regardless, it doesn't mean we have to rip it out this minute. how insane of an idea is it to just snip out the checkip.dyndns.org parts and add a commandline/confi |
19:22 |
ascii_field |
of these, we now have only irc remaining |
19:22 |
ascii_field |
(assuming all three patches discussed today were to be ratified) |
19:23 |
ascii_field |
and i say 'hey hey, ho ho,' dns 'has got to go!' |
19:23 |
shinohai |
I'm down for the irc mechanism, i really like it but not as it is now |
19:23 |
ascii_field |
shinohai: elaborate ? |
19:24 |
mats |
lol |
19:24 |
shinohai |
Earlier you mentioned the ability to specify peers, etc and use raw irc commands correct? |
19:24 |
shinohai |
If I understood correctly |
19:24 |
ascii_field |
shinohai: just the ability to specify what it connects to |
19:24 |
ascii_field |
and, perhaps, what channel |
19:25 |
shinohai |
hmmm mkay |
19:25 |
ascii_field |
btw it is also valuable because presently irc is a very handy means of finding pre-gavinization seeds |
19:25 |
ascii_field |
i expect this will change, suddenly and possibly undetectably, once they start fucking with it |
19:25 |
ascii_field |
(i.e. connecting gavinized nodes masquerading under old version strings) |
19:25 |
shinohai |
I failed to see that before BingoBoingo pointed out the obvious benefits of finding pre-gavinized nodes with it. |
19:26 |
ascii_field |
thing is, anyone can set version string to whateverthefuck they like |
19:27 |
shinohai |
ascii_field: are you limited as to what data you can put in the version string? |
19:28 |
mod6 |
<+ascii_field> << you can ~already~ specify seeds on cmdline and config! all that remains is the removal of the built-in seeder crap << sure, you can do addnode or whatnot to connect to other nodes. but isn't the dyndns thing to tell others what your nodes ip address is? maybe i misunderstand ... |
19:28 |
ascii_field |
shinohai: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Protocol_documentation#version |
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19:28 |
assbot |
Protocol documentation - Bitcoin Wiki ... ( http://bit.ly/1dL9WZd ) |
19:28 |
shinohai |
I mean, their must be some way to identify trusted clients |
19:29 |
ascii_field |
mod6: it was a fallback if irc fails |
19:29 |
ascii_field |
shinohai: trusted == folks you know personally |
19:29 |
ascii_field |
and even this, only after we get it carried over gossipd |
19:29 |
ascii_field |
at present, there is no way to authenticate a node |
19:29 |
mod6 |
<+ascii_field> mod6: it was a fallback if irc fails << oh or if -noirc is used or something? |
19:30 |
ascii_field |
or if irc fails to connect |
19:30 |
mod6 |
i see, ok. |
19:30 |
ascii_field |
see also http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=06-05-2015#1122714 |
19:30 |
assbot |
Logged on 06-05-2015 17:21:23; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1122612 << it's actually a fine entry point to explain to anyone why exactly tcp/ip is so broken. because this IS NOT a trivial task. the price for ipv4 and it's undocumented, buggy, slow and haphazardously ad-hoc nat-routing model is that you can't find out by inspecting yourself. the half-assed, quarter-baked lazy slothful and aol-windowesque implement |
19:34 |
cazalla |
copypaste, front page of the #1 aussie tabloid http://www.news.com.au/technology/online/intimate-photos-of-around-400-adelaide-women-have-been-posted-on-a-us-site-in-revenge-porn/story-fnjwmwrh-1227403257763 |
19:34 |
assbot |
Revenge porn: Nude photos of 400 Adelaide women posted online ... ( http://bit.ly/1BjUgY0 ) |
19:44 |
BingoBoingo |
!up ascii_field |
19:55 |
pete_dushenski |
mircea_popescu: a researcher is me ! |
19:55 |
pete_dushenski |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=218550.0 << i lolled |
19:55 |
assbot |
[WTS] Stuff for non-profits ... ( http://bit.ly/1BjW57a ) |
19:55 |
pete_dushenski |
i recognise 'thebutterzone' from -otc |
19:56 |
pete_dushenski |
pretty sure he had half the listings last i checked |
19:56 |
pete_dushenski |
btw, wd on the logs today, gents. solid reading material. |
19:58 |
pete_dushenski |
"First two (DVD, CD) are used and play fine, 2nd two are sealed new (all DVDs). for each before shipping, and a $60 donation for each will be made to this pro-civil rights coalition that Zooey Deschanel, Nancy Sinatra, Michael Moore, and Joel McHale all oppose." << y'know, this could only work on tardstalk |
20:01 |
pete_dushenski |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1166073 << unless you find a bear named "Mr. Employment" |
20:01 |
assbot |
Logged on 17-06-2015 14:49:18; jurov: i don need no fucking employment |
20:02 |
pete_dushenski |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1166060 << lmao. sarcastic aaaand true. |
20:02 |
assbot |
Logged on 17-06-2015 14:46:46; mats: yes the executions are a big plus |
20:03 |
pete_dushenski |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1166763 --> http://www.contravex.com/2015/03/23/want-to-drive-for-uber-first-you-need-to-make-some-mistakes/ |
20:03 |
assbot |
Logged on 17-06-2015 21:15:16; mircea_popescu: ascii_field myeah, uber does seem like the usgs last gasp effort to "socialism" the cabbuie business |
20:03 |
assbot |
Want to drive for Uber ? First, you need to make some mistakes. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1BjWZkb ) |
20:04 |
pete_dushenski |
uber is easily half the price of a cab here. |
20:04 |
pete_dushenski |
also, edmonton has uber and calgary, a larger city 300km south, doesn't |
20:04 |
pete_dushenski |
"illegal" there. |
20:05 |
pete_dushenski |
normal cabs are flat out unaffordable for regular use. |
20:05 |
pete_dushenski |
uber... isn't |
20:05 |
pete_dushenski |
though i'm flabbergasted that asciilifeform drives 2-4 hrs PER DAY ! |
20:05 |
pete_dushenski |
in case anyone thought this guy wasn't shiva reincarnate, think again. |
20:06 |
ascii_field |
it's roughly half the price of a cab pretty much everywhere, by design. |
20:06 |
ascii_field |
pete_dushenski: i didn't used to. worked mostly from home for a long time |
20:07 |
cazalla |
i'm sure i've mentioned it before but cabbies go around performing citizen's arrest on uber drivers down under |
20:07 |
pete_dushenski |
he's in #b-a an easy 6 hours per day. solid. plus cardano. plus phuctor. plus '98% busy' |
20:07 |
ascii_field |
eh #b-a is on own lcd |
20:07 |
ascii_field |
'background thread' in head. |
20:07 |
pete_dushenski |
ascii_field: eh, same here :) |
20:08 |
pete_dushenski |
but i guess now we know where cardano delivery went : commuting |
20:08 |
pete_dushenski |
on the highway, 2-4 hours per day |
20:08 |
ascii_field |
sometimes i log in from the car. |
20:08 |
pete_dushenski |
pet drives ? |
20:08 |
ascii_field |
nope |
20:08 |
ascii_field |
never learned how. |
20:09 |
pete_dushenski |
then YOU ARE SHIVA |
20:09 |
kakobrekla |
only if shiva was alien |
20:09 |
ascii_field |
i offered many times to teach her to drive, but she was sharp enough to grasp that this meant 'more chores' and didn't bite |
20:10 |
kakobrekla |
alf will not be put in front of execution wall but dissected for studies |
20:10 |
BingoBoingo |
!b 3 |
20:10 |
assbot |
Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1ZR2D5R.txt ) |
20:10 |
kakobrekla |
i think if just fuckued your bash |
20:11 |
BingoBoingo |
No, you just extended it |
20:11 |
BingoBoingo |
was only going to bash 2 |
20:14 |
pete_dushenski |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1166826 << would visit. been meaning to check out st. petersburg anyways. near enough. |
20:14 |
assbot |
Logged on 17-06-2015 21:55:45; mats: http://time.com/3923842/putin-kubinka-moscow-patriot-park-russia-opens-a-military-playground-for-the-patriotic |
20:14 |
pete_dushenski |
back in a sec. |
20:15 |
mod6 |
!up assbot |
20:15 |
mod6 |
bah |
20:15 |
mod6 |
!up ascii_field |
20:16 |
mod6 |
<+ascii_field> sometimes i log in from the car. << i can just imagine you driving around the beltway with your knee irc'ing from a phone. |
20:16 |
ascii_field |
usually at dead stop |
20:16 |
mod6 |
hah s/driving/parking/ |
20:17 |
ascii_field |
http://cryptome.org/2015/06/nsa-travel-2014.pdf << lulzies! includes an expense item, someone took a trip to an event titled 'all girls, all math' |
20:17 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1BjY8Z7 ) |
20:18 |
hanbot |
the only female in that office. |
20:18 |
mats |
http://www.math.unl.edu/programs/agam |
20:18 |
assbot |
All Girls/All Math | Department of Mathematics | University of Nebraska–Lincoln ... ( http://bit.ly/1BjYgaY ) |
20:18 |
mats |
summer maths camp. |
20:19 |
ascii_field |
sponsors: '... nsa' |
20:20 |
BingoBoingo |
Nebraska, like Ohio a place that when USia is scrapped can be sold to the dirt |
20:21 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 122750 @ 0.00043129 = 52.9408 BTC [+] {2} |
20:27 |
mircea_popescu |
so there was a blood gorged mosquito on the wall. as i didn't want to leave a splotch, i hit it in such a manner as to only dizzy it. i can now disable-shot mosquitors. |
20:27 |
mircea_popescu |
does this qualify me for a black belt or something ? |
20:27 |
ascii_field |
this is sop where i live |
20:28 |
ascii_field |
perhaps the new ones have harder carapace |
20:29 |
mircea_popescu |
first one i've seen in a month or two |
20:30 |
ascii_field |
i encountered a good number of mosquitoes in b-a but none bit me. couldn't help but think of the old sf stories re: creatures on alien planet unable to eat (or be eaten by) us on account of wrong protein chirality |
20:32 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 259400 @ 0.00042478 = 110.1879 BTC [-] {5} |
20:32 |
BingoBoingo |
I tend to just... clean up the blood. They are disease carrying organisms and deserve nothing but lethal intent. |
20:33 |
mircea_popescu |
you know colt made some pretty kickass pistols. |
20:33 |
ascii_field |
once upon a time. |
20:33 |
ascii_field |
but now they're something like 'atari' |
20:33 |
mircea_popescu |
i suspect the usg policy against private small arms has finally found the chokehold : drive the manufacturers out of business. |
20:33 |
ascii_field |
a name without a body |
20:34 |
ascii_field |
afaik colt did not actually manufacture anything, in own factories, other than usg orders, for some years (decades?) |
20:34 |
mircea_popescu |
<ascii_field> i consider this to be a necessary thing << it is. |
20:34 |
ascii_field |
but used subcontractors in turdworld |
20:34 |
ascii_field |
so colt ~= atari. |
20:34 |
mircea_popescu |
<ascii_field> this will be a substantial change in default behaviour, because the thing ~will~ have to be given irc server params on command line, and/or seed ips, or ~will not run~ << this is the wrong approach. config file, with sane defaults. |
20:35 |
mircea_popescu |
never, ever, EVERY may any input be required from the user imperatively. |
20:35 |
ascii_field |
mircea_popescu: sane defaults produced how? |
20:35 |
BingoBoingo |
<mircea_popescu> i suspect the usg policy against private small arms has finally found the chokehold : drive the manufacturers out of business. << Most of the good "Colt" designs are now made better by others. Argentinas Taurus is one. |
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20:35 |
mircea_popescu |
user has the option to provide input, program that depends on input to run was shipped broken |
20:35 |
ascii_field |
presently thing ships with no config |
20:35 |
ascii_field |
and no mechanism to copy it to user's homedir |
20:35 |
ascii_field |
if we had node(s) running, could supply this default. |
20:35 |
ascii_field |
presently - we do not. |
20:36 |
mircea_popescu |
<mats> mighta had a chance if privately owned by black disabled lesbian << no. belgian firm has to import weapons, so they can be kept off mnarket. colt does not hyave to import anythinfg, can just turn around and sell. the usg will award no further contracts for anything to anyone who can also sell to us civillians, jus watch. |
20:36 |
ascii_field |
mircea_popescu: ... program that depends on input to run was shipped broken << L0L!! 'cat' ships broken ? |
20:36 |
mircea_popescu |
very similar situation to the entire "we don't spy on citizens, the brits did, as part of an agreement we made with them, so whatcha gonna do" |
20:37 |
ascii_field |
^ dates back to '90s 'echelon' and not at all secret |
20:37 |
ascii_field |
(the 'five eyes eyeing one another' thing) |
20:37 |
mircea_popescu |
ascii_field if it doesn't have a -Y mode (assume y on all questions) yes. |
20:39 |
ascii_field |
everything depends on input |
20:39 |
mats |
i don't know much about how procurement and acquisitions works |
20:39 |
mircea_popescu |
mno. |
20:39 |
mircea_popescu |
and in other news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/a0b21db7f61f3860f5eac1b1e51afd35/tumblr_nq3kdrsamT1sgfmbuo2_500.jpg |
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20:39 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1BjZCSY ) |
20:39 |
ascii_field |
but basic point - yes - need nodes, so can have usable default |
20:40 |
mats |
i'm under the mistaken impression that USG only gives contracts to US corps |
20:40 |
ascii_field |
mats: belgium is in the reich, therefore just as good as florida etc |
20:40 |
mats |
particularly those related to defense |
20:40 |
mats |
oh i see |
20:41 |
BingoBoingo |
<ascii_field> but basic point - yes - need nodes, so can have usable default << As weaponixation approaches a suggested .conf updated occasionally may be welcome for maintained nodes but harder for pogo "fire and forget" nodes |
20:41 |
ascii_field |
BingoBoingo: presumably those will rely heavily on 'last seen' cache. |
20:42 |
ascii_field |
but yes, the initial seeds ~must~ work. |
20:42 |
mircea_popescu |
default as in, default for irc. |
20:42 |
ascii_field |
and it is entirely insufficient to have merely one or two of them. |
20:42 |
ascii_field |
mircea_popescu: at present time the irc routine is, notice, still in. complete with idiot hardcoded hostname |
20:44 |
mircea_popescu |
myah |
20:44 |
ascii_field |
was thinking of tearing out the hardcoded hostname in favour of ip:port read from config |
20:45 |
ascii_field |
(which - yes - will have to be filled in on initial run) |
20:45 |
ascii_field |
thing is, i fucking hate magic constants |
20:45 |
ascii_field |
hardcoded |
20:46 |
asciilifeform |
!up ascii_field |
20:46 |
BingoBoingo |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=11-06-2015#1161193 << The entire just get a bic and why not butane business is what's wrong with computing. Experimental pocket firebox (in contrast to one with the girl and the ass) has lit when offered everything from 40% ETOH to decade old Kerosene |
20:46 |
assbot |
Logged on 11-06-2015 17:13:25; ascii_field: (butane lighters have existed for what, half a century now ?) |
20:46 |
ascii_field |
thing should come with a suggested config, yes. and it is the responsibility of the installer (gentoo 'emerge' or whatever) to emplace it. |
20:47 |
ascii_field |
BingoBoingo: i occasionally light blowtorches, gas-fired soldering irons, etc. can only use a) match b) butane lighter |
20:47 |
ascii_field |
a petrol or naptha wick lighter dries out if left alone for six months between uses. |
20:48 |
BingoBoingo |
naptha/petrol lighter dries out within 2 weeks. Bless that the fuel is cheap. |
20:48 |
ascii_field |
but worthless to me |
20:48 |
ascii_field |
because wtf |
20:48 |
ascii_field |
matchbox beats it for 'minimum effort.' |
20:48 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 45984 @ 0.00004 = 1.8394 BTC [-] {5} |
20:48 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 92450 @ 0.00044425 = 41.0709 BTC [+] {4} |
20:49 |
BingoBoingo |
But what if you need to torch dupont circle? Will a tiny butane flame from a bic catch of the straw roofs in humid conditions? |
20:49 |
BingoBoingo |
matchbox indeed is often ideal |
20:50 |
BingoBoingo |
paper books of matches often still better than box |
20:50 |
ascii_field |
straw roofs lol |
20:51 |
BingoBoingo |
High R-values, you know the building codes will promote them soon |
20:52 |
pete_dushenski |
"Jimmy Lee was a vice chairman at JPMorgan Chase and was widely credited with developing the leveraged loan market in the United States." << dead at age 62. |
20:52 |
pete_dushenski |
same age as putin for whatever that's worth |
20:54 |
BingoBoingo |
;;ud american fist |
20:54 |
gribble |
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=The+American+Fist | The American Fist. * When you fist a girl so hard and so deep it causes her to pass-out. * Shove it loud, and shove it proud. I really should have token my ... |
20:54 |
BingoBoingo |
^ unlikely 'Murican nao |
20:54 |
pete_dushenski |
"The Royal Bank of Scotland said on Wednesday that about 600,000 customer transactions had not been processed as a result of a technology failure overnight. The issue affected transactions at the company’s R.B.S., National Westminster Bank, Coutts and Ulster Bank brands." << wasn't there an old meme about 'bitcoin users not affected' ? seems appropriate here. |
20:55 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7550 @ 0.00044638 = 3.3702 BTC [+] |
20:56 |
BingoBoingo |
!t m s.mpoe |
20:56 |
assbot |
[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00040954 / 0.00043001 / 0.00044638 (1624630 shares, 698.62 BTC), 7D: 0.0003539 / 0.00040764 / 0.00044638 (15483015 shares, 6,311.60 BTC), 30D: 0.00024411 / 0.00033126 / 0.00044638 (117802097 shares, 39,023.80 BTC) |
20:59 |
pete_dushenski |
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxxXk1d3yyuZOFlsdkNMSGswSGs/view << or why you shouldn't use an operating system 'keychain' to store your passwords |
20:59 |
assbot |
report.pdf - Google Drive ... ( http://bit.ly/1Bk0V4h ) |
20:59 |
pete_dushenski |
"Unauthorized Cross-App Resource Access on MAC OS X and iOS" ^ |
20:59 |
ascii_field |
keychain? |
20:59 |
pete_dushenski |
password storage manager |
21:00 |
ascii_field |
like the 'yubikey' turd mtgox shipped ? |
21:00 |
pete_dushenski |
autofills credentials |
21:00 |
ascii_field |
ah |
21:00 |
pete_dushenski |
built into os |
21:00 |
pete_dushenski |
'always on' |
21:00 |
ascii_field |
sounds terminally braindamaged to begin with |
21:01 |
ascii_field |
and convenient sack of 'crown jewels' for whoever pwns the box |
21:01 |
pete_dushenski |
and, not unsurprisingly, terminally common |
21:01 |
BingoBoingo |
http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=2514 |
21:01 |
assbot |
JL: ‘The European Age’ ... ( http://bit.ly/1Bk14Vr ) |
21:02 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39259 @ 0.00044638 = 17.5244 BTC [+] |
21:06 |
pete_dushenski |
"Tony Clement @TonyclementCPC "Confirmed today that Govt of Canada GC servers have been cyberattacked. Until full service is restored please use 1-800-OCanada." 11:59 AM - 17 Jun 2015 " |
21:06 |
pete_dushenski |
bwahahha |
21:06 |
ascii_field |
GC? |
21:06 |
ascii_field |
garbage collector ? |
21:06 |
pete_dushenski |
lol! |
21:07 |
pete_dushenski |
i think clement is being redundant. |
21:08 |
pete_dushenski |
'anonymous' has laid claim, citing 'bill c-51' |
21:08 |
pete_dushenski |
c-51 is some cyberterrorism baloney |
21:10 |
pete_dushenski |
the dinner guests (rare treat, this) will be here momentarily so i must depart for the evening. bon soir a tous ! |
21:13 |
BingoBoingo |
http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=2512 |
21:13 |
assbot |
JL: Steak and Eggs for Breakfast ... ( http://bit.ly/1Bk2EXx ) |
21:14 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58600 @ 0.00044638 = 26.1579 BTC [+] |
21:15 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36236 @ 0.0004355 = 15.7808 BTC [-] |
21:15 |
* |
BingoBoingo impressed someone seems to exceed even trilema in writing pace |
21:17 |
asciilifeform |
!up ascii_field |
21:17 |
ascii_field |
BingoBoingo: /dev/random also exceeds it |
21:17 |
ascii_field |
as does my arse |
21:17 |
ascii_field |
i'd still rather read trilema |
21:23 |
BingoBoingo |
Indeed. Still suprised by such documentation of urban 'Murican decline |
21:27 |
* |
BingoBoingo still scours lafond site for information which may aid 11 year plan |
21:28 |
BingoBoingo |
In other news the first of the daisies are opening today. |
21:35 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 116000 @ 0.00044687 = 51.8369 BTC [+] {4} |
21:40 |
BingoBoingo |
I offer lafond fumbling over the corn plan in action http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=2533 |
21:40 |
assbot |
JL: The Hoodrat Hatchery ... ( http://bit.ly/1d2Dyk4 ) |
21:41 |
trinque |
so web browsers are gonna run binaries now eh? |
21:41 |
trinque |
http://techcrunch.com/2015/06/17/google-microsoft-mozilla-and-others-team-up-to-launch-webassembly-a-new-binary-format-for-the-web/ |
21:41 |
assbot |
Google, Microsoft, Mozilla And Others Team Up To Launch WebAssembly, A New Binary Format For The Web | TechCrunch ... ( http://bit.ly/1d2DAZ2 ) |
21:41 |
trinque |
what could go wrong |
21:42 |
ascii_field |
l0l microshit at the table |
21:42 |
BingoBoingo |
trinque: No, not so long as lynx lives. This is just the next stem from js.asm |
21:42 |
trinque |
ascii_field: they just wanna give the web a nice hug |
21:42 |
ascii_field |
just when we thought 'flash' had finally died |
21:42 |
trinque |
and google's clearly taking a page from old microshit 90s tactics |
21:43 |
trinque |
knew NaCL was going to be activex-google-edition |
21:43 |
ascii_field |
thing is, classic js, for all the turdaliciousness, was 'too debuggable' for usg tastes. |
21:44 |
BingoBoingo |
Lafond's excellent take on ISIS http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=2531 |
21:44 |
assbot |
JL: ‘They Took Out Entire City Blocks' ... ( http://bit.ly/1QF1wo7 ) |
21:44 |
trinque |
ascii_field: right, did you also see (I think I put it in the logs) Apple's move to compile to apps to an intermediate bytecode, which is then transformed to whichever back-end machine code? |
21:44 |
trinque |
*to compile apps |
21:45 |
ascii_field |
eh they use stock llvm |
21:45 |
ascii_field |
it sorta does this already |
21:45 |
trinque |
ah ok |
21:45 |
ascii_field |
yes, i get it, everybody wants to copy microshit |
21:45 |
trinque |
looked like a move where you "sign" your release, but then they can diddle endlessly at the final step |
21:46 |
ascii_field |
and all sorta of unsavory actors relish a mandated compile into a poorly-understood, sloppily-implemented instruction set for which there are no quality reversing tools |
21:46 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31064 @ 0.0004355 = 13.5284 BTC [-] |
21:47 |
trinque |
If this sounds depressing, do not worry. We will finally get to see how our Abrams Main Battle Tank holds up under state of the art airstrikes—because, ISIS now has 10 of those suckers and 100 more Humvees! << lol |
21:48 |
trinque |
BingoBoingo: I can see an angle on the entire middle eastern expedition right there |
21:48 |
trinque |
permanent training ground and excuse to expend (and replace!) equipment |
21:49 |
BingoBoingo |
trinque: Also, practice for Texas treaty secession |
21:50 |
BingoBoingo |
!up ascii_field |
21:50 |
trinque |
lol |
21:50 |
trinque |
yeah, I can see that point too |
21:52 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38126 @ 0.0004248 = 16.1959 BTC [-] {2} |
21:53 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 95774 @ 0.00041823 = 40.0556 BTC [-] {3} |
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22:12 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28900 @ 0.00042852 = 12.3842 BTC [+] |
22:21 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35750 @ 0.00041729 = 14.9181 BTC [-] |
22:29 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47400 @ 0.00041241 = 19.5482 BTC [-] {2} |
22:38 |
mircea_popescu |
aaannnnd in other news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/0954fb8bce8dbda84c8979f18e581cfe/tumblr_nptqm20yoj1uojgsco1_1280.jpg |
22:38 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1GgVFds ) |
22:41 |
BingoBoingo |
Those are some small balls |
22:43 |
mircea_popescu |
lol i guess so huh |
22:44 |
cazalla |
mebe he was in the pool |
22:45 |
mats |
https://fairygodboss.com |
22:45 |
assbot |
Company reviews by women, for women | Fairygodboss ... ( http://bit.ly/1GgWC5o ) |
22:46 |
mircea_popescu |
trinque> knew NaCL was going to be activex-google-edition << word. |
22:49 |
mircea_popescu |
"the nihilist ISIS Islamist horror show" heh. some kids not giving a shit about these kids circlejerk does not actually enact them into some sort of objective absolute. |
22:49 |
mircea_popescu |
they're simply some kids that don't give a shit about a particular set of conventional nonsense |
22:50 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25750 @ 0.00043205 = 11.1253 BTC [+] {2} |
22:51 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, to take a page out of alf's book, "we will know terminal decline stage by this sign, that ivy-limp bureaucrats will organise tranny beheading parties and then gather the heads in a sack and take them to isis, as a ritual sacrifice. much to everyone's confusion and wtf in that camp." |
22:51 |
BingoBoingo |
;;google dolezal |
22:51 |
gribble |
Rachel Dolezal's brother: She's 'making up more lies' - CNN.com: <http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/17/us/washington-rachel-dolezal-naacp/index.html?eref=rss_topstories>; Rachel Dolezal, ex-NAACP leader: 'I identify as black' - CNN.com: <http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/16/us/washington-rachel-dolezal-naacp/>; Rachel Dolezal's brother, author Joshua Dolezal, faces trial for ...: (1 more message) |
22:52 |
BingoBoingo |
Apparently the Clarence Thomas fellow can be trans-white, but this blonde chick can't be trans-black |
22:52 |
trinque |
ahahaha |
22:53 |
* |
BingoBoingo making good progress on my efforts to be trans-mexican. |
22:53 |
trinque |
I'm a goddamn steamboat |
22:53 |
trinque |
why not? |
22:53 |
BingoBoingo |
!b 5 |
22:53 |
assbot |
Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1J316ES.txt ) |
22:53 |
BingoBoingo |
Fuck you Imma Dragon |
22:54 |
trinque |
lol |
22:55 |
trinque |
what wonders will "I identify as" bring next |
22:55 |
BingoBoingo |
Not really, but did "La Bamba" during Saturday night karaoke and rando polo wearing ham asked me if I did yard work. Fucker was purpised when I started offering prices. |
22:55 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 90500 @ 0.00044975 = 40.7024 BTC [+] {2} |
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23:14 |
cazalla |
woot woot, the courier delivered my 2 x white shahtoot mulberry.. first time ordering plants online, preddy impressed tbh, arrive safe and sound |
23:17 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: note that susan rice is also part of the 'rice cameron family foundation' |
23:19 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67641 @ 0.00044978 = 30.4236 BTC [+] {2} |
23:32 |
asciilifeform |
not one of those buggers depends on honest (or otherwise) ~work~ for a living. |
23:35 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-06-2015#1167008 << i fired a (rented) 'taurus' '45 at a firing range. it had parts clearly cast from shitmetal. |
23:35 |
assbot |
Logged on 18-06-2015 00:35:22; BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i suspect the usg policy against private small arms has finally found the chokehold : drive the manufacturers out of business. << Most of the good "Colt" designs are now made better by others. Argentinas Taurus is one. |
23:36 |
asciilifeform |
not even certain the hammer was 100% steel |
23:38 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Like everything else sold in 'Murican Market actual product costs substantial premium over given product. |
23:38 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: the existence of pistols with 'zamac' moving parts blew my mind |
23:38 |
asciilifeform |
can't wait for the zamac barrels |
23:39 |
asciilifeform |
('3d printed!!111!1') |
23:39 |
BingoBoingo |
lol |
23:39 |
BingoBoingo |
Thankfully .45 ACP generates relatively low pressures |
23:39 |
asciilifeform |
betcha clay would work better. |
23:39 |
asciilifeform |
(pottery: the original 3d print!) |
23:39 |
BingoBoingo |
Now clay is a material with wildly inconsistent properties |
23:41 |
decimation |
that Al lower receiver looked pretty solid |
23:41 |
BingoBoingo |
For the record I am under the impression Kimber and "Springfield Armory" are the leaders in Model 1911 production with Taurus leading the M-92 production |
23:41 |
asciilifeform |
decimation: not a pressurized part |
23:41 |
asciilifeform |
can make from cardboard if you want. |
23:41 |
decimation |
no, one would need to buy good quality upper and barrel |
23:42 |
asciilifeform |
well yes. but the lower thing only holds a few springs and the mag |
23:42 |
BingoBoingo |
Taurus also by its subsidiary Rossi seems to be dominating the lever action rifle market as well |
23:42 |
decimation |
I imagine the accuracy of the rifle might be affected by cardboard trigger pull :) |
23:42 |
asciilifeform |
(the upper half of that rifle, on account of some peculiar usg archaicism, is sold openly) |
23:43 |
decimation |
I wonder if you can also craft a suppressor yourself, to make the thing civilized? |
23:43 |
asciilifeform |
does one, strictly speaking, even need the lower to fire the rifle ? |
23:43 |
asciilifeform |
or can you shoot it 'by hand' like you could the old lugers ? |
23:43 |
decimation |
something needs to hold the trigger group together |
23:43 |
asciilifeform |
can you simply whack the pin by hand ? |
23:43 |
decimation |
my understanding of m-4 is that the lower does this |
23:43 |
decimation |
heh |
23:43 |
decimation |
well, can put .22 in a pipe too |
23:44 |
BingoBoingo |
<decimation> I wonder if you can also craft a suppressor yourself, to make the thing civilized? << paladin press torrent will yeild a bounty on this subject |
23:44 |
decimation |
this is why 'banning guns' is silly |
23:44 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: not 'high tech' |
23:44 |
asciilifeform |
(no more so than the one on your car) |
23:44 |
BingoBoingo |
<decimation> well, can put .22 in a pipe too << 12 ga better "pipe" caliber candidate |
23:45 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Of course not. Few good things are "high tech" |
23:45 |
asciilifeform |
i believe traditional american 'zip gun' is a '12ga' |
23:45 |
asciilifeform |
specifically on account of matching the 'calibers' found in a typical plumbing goods shop |
23:45 |
BingoBoingo |
Traditional zip gun is .22 or .25 caliber, but... if choosing off the shelf pipes why not go big? |
23:46 |
asciilifeform |
harlan ellison described his years as teenaged scum with some detail re: this weapon |
23:46 |
asciilifeform |
i can't recall the precise details. anyone who needs this - straight to him. |
23:47 |
decimation |
apparently you can craft your own suppressor if you pay USG $200 |
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23:48 |
decimation |
under fdr-era gun law |
23:49 |
BingoBoingo |
decimation: In Missouri, Montana, and select rebel territories such tribute is unecessary if manufactered in state |
23:53 |
decimation |
I don't think so |
23:53 |
decimation |
it's a federal law |
23:54 |
decimation |
some states won't let you have them even if they are registered |
23:55 |
decimation |
apparently in Washington state you can own, but not use |
23:55 |
decimation |
anti-gun nuts love to make guns louder, so they annoy people on nuisance grounds |
23:57 |
BingoBoingo |
decimation: it is a grey area open to continuing litigation which is why the states in question pushed this kind of federal premption stuff forward, to keep the lawyers in an other than nekkid state |
23:57 |
BingoBoingo |
"job creation" and all |
23:57 |
BingoBoingo |
So what if Billy Bob does 10 years in Marion |