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00:00 * bekusoararu bows
00:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 87300 @ 0.00037653 = 32.8711 BTC [+] {2}
00:16 bekusoararu ;seen duffer
00:18 bekusoararu balls deep i suppose
00:20 bekusoararu !s richard prior
00:20 assbot 0 results for 'richard prior' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=richard+prior
00:21 trinque pryor?
00:21 bekusoararu yuo just seem to know everything
00:22 trinque unlikely, but I know that
00:22 bekusoararu i know you, i ike you
00:23 bekusoararu noone doesnt
00:23 bekusoararu you just got a tony
00:25 bekusoararu !g dirtycash dizzee
00:25 bekusoararu nevermind
00:26 bekusoararu i confer helen mirrin rights upon trinque
00:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16900 @ 0.00037372 = 6.3159 BTC [-]
00:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17700 @ 0.00037194 = 6.5833 BTC [-] {2}
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00:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.0003576 = 4.0051 BTC [-]
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01:11 mircea_popescu !up laylagottawatch
01:12 laylagottawatch 8premKyl5nc
01:13 laylagottawatch seriously tho people say how eric clapton bout this watch or that watch, who gives a shizen
01:14 mircea_popescu <mod6> mod6: Sir Grayhawk, I would like to use this recipe to craft a static apple pie. Sir Grayhawk: Let me traide you for this here Universe Schematic. << WUT ?!
01:21 laylagottawatch nobody has a watch
01:22 laylagottawatch they were all stolen long ago
01:28 laylagottawatch kinda necessary for bitcoin tho
01:29 laylagottawatch ektsOP8yOQM
01:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23600 @ 0.00037307 = 8.8045 BTC [+] {2}
01:34 laylagottawatch !g diesel!g johnny diesel and the injectors
01:36 laylagottawatch 9K0vKfpfpx8
01:36 laylagottawatch cry in shame
01:36 laylagottawatch b00STMSnu1s
01:38 laylagottawatch notice fp onn thge couch
01:41 laylagottawatch ]funkenstein knows the sax guy\
01:42 davout wtf am i reading
01:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14900 @ 0.00037243 = 5.5492 BTC [-] {3}
01:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19400 @ 0.00037923 = 7.3571 BTC [+]
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02:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22082 @ 0.00037952 = 8.3806 BTC [+] {2}
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02:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28650 @ 0.0003576 = 10.2452 BTC [-]
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02:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10311 @ 0.00036026 = 3.7146 BTC [+]
03:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36350 @ 0.00035675 = 12.9679 BTC [-] {2}
03:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10550 @ 0.00036026 = 3.8007 BTC [+]
03:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7939 @ 0.00036026 = 2.8601 BTC [+]
03:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6450 @ 0.00036446 = 2.3508 BTC [+]
03:44 punkman !up ben_vulpes
03:45 ben_vulpes ty punkman
03:45 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: 'change addr' << i have banged on at length about this brain damage
03:56 cazalla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-06-2015#1159166 <<< nah, that's not the conversation i was trying to have, just letting you both know so you don't assume i've wandered off
03:56 assbot Logged on 10-06-2015 15:29:44; mircea_popescu: cazalla well, dja wanna quit ?
03:57 cazalla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-06-2015#1159168 <<< trans girl who 4chan furiously jacked it to until they found out she was trans.. some continued anyway https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2442/3630600841_172e5551e1.jpg
03:57 assbot Logged on 10-06-2015 15:39:41; mircea_popescu: who/what is a bailey jay
03:57 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1I3h0bm )
04:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16400 @ 0.00037456 = 6.1428 BTC [+] {2}
04:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15300 @ 0.00036887 = 5.6437 BTC [-]
04:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40350 @ 0.00036412 = 14.6922 BTC [-] {2}
04:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10230 @ 0.00036887 = 3.7735 BTC [+]
04:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.00037885 = 3.3718 BTC [+] {2}
04:40 cazalla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-06-2015#1159739 <<< http://i.imgur.com/LFtCt55.png
04:40 assbot Logged on 10-06-2015 20:31:23; BingoBoingo: Fuck you reddit. The one time there is something almost worthwhile they kill it https://www.reddit.com/r/fatpeoplehate
04:40 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1JM5OUV )
04:41 cazalla which is really strange given coontown does target (reddit's ver of targeting) people
04:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31200 @ 0.00037954 = 11.8416 BTC [+]
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05:07 cazalla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-06-2015#1159784 <<< that's bad but i think this is worse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTHbY9mVYAM
05:07 assbot Logged on 10-06-2015 21:21:40; danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-06-2015#1159520 << re: "high functioning autism" -- I just found out about this internet phenomenon -> https://youtu.be/wEKLxgRJnAc?t=2m20s
05:07 assbot VINE MARATHON VOLUME 1 - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1JM7uOp )
05:09 shinohai The mix tape for a new generation.
05:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24050 @ 0.00037954 = 9.1279 BTC [+]
05:23 shinohai https://twitter.com/LivingComputers/status/608829778360033280/photo/1
05:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19600 @ 0.00037954 = 7.439 BTC [+]
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05:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15320 @ 0.00037442 = 5.7361 BTC [-] {2}
05:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 89030 @ 0.00036919 = 32.869 BTC [-] {2}
05:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00037954 = 1.5941 BTC [+]
06:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22700 @ 0.00037954 = 8.6156 BTC [+]
06:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4950 @ 0.00036206 = 1.7922 BTC [-] {2}
06:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80900 @ 0.0003565 = 28.8409 BTC [-] {4}
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06:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32073 @ 0.00037954 = 12.173 BTC [+]
06:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39050 @ 0.00037954 = 14.821 BTC [+]
06:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19300 @ 0.00037954 = 7.3251 BTC [+]
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07:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7750 @ 0.00035513 = 2.7523 BTC [-]
07:42 punkman http://aripecola.tumblr.com/post/115523611261/i-love-science-i-think-its-the-most-beautiful
07:42 assbot benby brilliance ... ( http://bit.ly/1QqSpHq )
07:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37000 @ 0.00037351 = 13.8199 BTC [+] {2}
07:44 shinohai biodiversity is an interesting subject.
07:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14350 @ 0.00037954 = 5.4464 BTC [+]
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08:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37250 @ 0.00037954 = 14.1379 BTC [+]
08:14 nubbins` "the fact that most people won’t learn about sexual variation until COLLEGE is ... VIOLENT"
08:14 nubbins` o.O
08:15 nubbins` the fact that "Leah, 20." feels the education system should be the primary educator of children is telling
08:17 nubbins` http://aripecola.tumblr.com/post/121184028396/obeykingafrica-short-hair-dont-care-also-i
08:17 assbot benby brilliance ... ( http://bit.ly/1f4M57B )
08:17 nubbins` and i'm done
08:17 punkman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE9JlONzrVU
08:17 assbot Your standard fuckparty. - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1f4M7MX )
08:18 nubbins` i've been trying to sell a single bitcoin in -otc for three days
08:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33136 @ 0.00036279 = 12.0214 BTC [-] {2}
08:22 nubbins` !up Guest24615
08:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37200 @ 0.00037954 = 14.1189 BTC [+]
08:38 BingoBoingo !t m s.mpoe
08:38 assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00035086 / 0.00036706 / 0.00037954 (2532822 shares, 929.71 BTC), 7D: 0.00031746 / 0.00035429 / 0.00037954 (38569463 shares, 13,665.09 BTC), 30D: 0.00024032 / 0.00030726 / 0.00037954 (137645789 shares, 42,294.10 BTC)
08:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44150 @ 0.00036151 = 15.9607 BTC [-]
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08:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20800 @ 0.00038028 = 7.9098 BTC [+] {2}
08:59 mircea_popescu and in breakfast news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_maj3va0iHC1rewmkdo1_1280.jpg
08:59 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1FUJS4g )
09:03 nubbins` now that's a spicy meatball
09:04 mircea_popescu she doesn't look like she got enough sauce on hers.
09:05 nubbins` i think she ordered the vegetarian spaghetti
09:06 * nubbins` contemplates making meatballs
09:06 mircea_popescu that's good, a slut somewhere's contemplating eating manballs.
09:07 nubbins` tesla batteries would be great for my home, if (a) non-peak rates were offered here, or (b) net metering was an option
09:07 asciilifeform so my neighbour's house has been in the care of garbage men wearing gas masks for a week now.
09:07 nubbins` asciilifeform !!
09:07 asciilifeform they are also wearing sacks over their shoes
09:08 nubbins` obola?
09:08 nubbins` was this the neighbour who'd been broken into?
09:08 asciilifeform nubbins`: cat woman
09:08 nubbins` o.
09:08 mircea_popescu oh.
09:08 mircea_popescu i was hoping for aliens.
09:08 nubbins` i guess she's not a cat woman anymore.
09:08 asciilifeform nubbins`: not clear where the beasties went
09:08 asciilifeform they put out zoological traps but none sprang
09:08 nubbins` humane services, most likely
09:08 asciilifeform i think they escaped
09:09 nubbins` never to return? seems unlikely
09:09 nubbins` unless they were held against their will
09:09 nubbins` (cats are v territorial, don't just "run away")
09:09 asciilifeform these were kept indoors
09:09 asciilifeform and probably have severely defective firmware
09:09 nubbins` heh
09:09 mircea_popescu nubbins` and also if (c) you were a salamander so fire hazard was not a concern
09:09 nubbins` maybe so, but even though
09:10 nubbins` cats running away generally isn't a thing that happens, unless they're running from a new home to their previous one
09:10 nubbins` but they'll lose that urge after a couple weeks.
09:10 mircea_popescu much like women.
09:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9349 @ 0.00038149 = 3.5666 BTC [+]
09:10 nubbins` anecdote: Dory popped through the screen window yesterday
09:11 nubbins` i step through the front door to fetch her, and she's worriedly trotting around meowing at neighbouring windows, trying to figure out which house is hers
09:11 nubbins` ;(
09:12 mircea_popescu ahahaha
09:12 asciilifeform woah she had a 'king' mattress
09:12 asciilifeform mega-luxury
09:12 nubbins` heh.
09:12 mircea_popescu i imagine The Outside must look to a modern pet cat much like the same looks to a modern teenager.
09:12 asciilifeform (though i count 11 or so gigantic spots)
09:12 nubbins` we have a king size mattress. they're not THAT expensive :P
09:13 asciilifeform nubbins`: the floor space - is
09:13 * mircea_popescu has a 2.2 x 2.3 matress even here
09:13 nubbins` :o
09:13 nubbins` so if you wanna lie sideways, your legs hang off the edge?
09:13 mircea_popescu ...
09:13 mircea_popescu you think i'm over 2 meters long ?
09:13 nubbins` that was directed towards alf, heh
09:14 mircea_popescu oh lol
09:14 nubbins` that was actually dory's second time out front
09:14 nubbins` the first time, she was just sitting in the window checking things out
09:14 asciilifeform nubbins`: i'm not even a very tall fella, but the only orientation i can lie down in where legs do not go over the edge is diagonal (after pushing pet out)
09:14 mircea_popescu "and i threw it out"
09:14 nubbins` then her hated enemy, Gandalf, approaches the window
09:14 nubbins` and Dory actually launched herself at him, busting the screen out of the window, and chased him down the block
09:15 mircea_popescu asciilifeform you could cut her in half, have a chunk curl up on either side.
09:15 nubbins` it was bananas and i was almost too high to deal with it
09:15 mircea_popescu alternatively, start dating 12yos
09:15 mircea_popescu "your honor, i only fuck preteens because the floor space is so expensive"
09:15 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i actually often say to pet, 'mainly what i need a 2nd one for is to have stators on both sides'
09:15 mircea_popescu because you spin ?
09:15 asciilifeform aha
09:16 mircea_popescu does it do work /
09:16 nubbins` only when they wear the copper brush undies
09:16 asciilifeform in the schoolbook physics sense, surely.
09:16 mircea_popescu bwahahaha
09:16 nubbins` and you thought a hair shirt was bad
09:16 nubbins` so i've got this conveyor oven for curing ink on shirts, yes?
09:17 mircea_popescu is this still about dory ?
09:17 nubbins` no :(
09:17 nubbins` i ws connecting some ducting to the exhaust fan last fall and realized that the mfg installed the fucking fan upside-down
09:17 mircea_popescu proceed
09:17 mircea_popescu the manufagturer ?
09:17 nubbins` seriously. exhaust fan pointed down into the oven.
09:17 asciilifeform nubbins`: so he built you a crematorium ?
09:18 nubbins` he built me a t-shirt oven that blasts cool air onto the sides of the shirts it's trying to cure.
09:18 mircea_popescu so you're making cool shirts.
09:18 nubbins` anyway. no big deal, tap some new holes, screw the thing in the right way.
09:18 mircea_popescu you know, smoked meats should be cold cured.
09:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19247 @ 0.00038149 = 7.3425 BTC [+]
09:18 nubbins` they also wired the fucking motor backwards
09:18 mircea_popescu aaahahahaah
09:18 mircea_popescu see, this is why slump times in sv are bad
09:19 nubbins` so the heat/speed controls are on the fucking output side of it
09:19 mircea_popescu the fucktards end up employed in productive activities
09:19 mircea_popescu and bring their "coding experience" with them
09:19 asciilifeform ^^^^
09:19 nubbins` anyway, this is a roundabout way of saying that i'm gonna be rewiring a DC motor for the first time today
09:19 nubbins` sources say i just gotta swap the red and black
09:19 asciilifeform this is rather akin to the famous clusterfuck in usa circa '80s when reagan turned the psych ward folks loose
09:20 nubbins` asciilifeform i think the usa is still dealing w/ that
09:20 mircea_popescu nubbins` not really, it's just a lefty meme.
09:20 asciilifeform aha, as described by herr orlov - http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2015/06/crazyland.html
09:20 assbot ClubOrlov: Crazyland ... ( http://bit.ly/1FUNIdM )
09:20 asciilifeform and others.
09:20 mircea_popescu "oh reagan was bad because bla bla"
09:20 nubbins` was he the actor?
09:20 mircea_popescu asciilifeform /me is deeply unconcinved by the theory.
09:20 nubbins` i mean, they all are.
09:20 nubbins` but
09:20 mircea_popescu nubbins` yeah, he was the only qualified one.
09:20 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: pinning it on reagan may be a liberast hobby horse, but it did happen.
09:21 mircea_popescu well, some whore also got office in italy about some time
09:21 nubbins` the only one w/ a SAG membership, anyway.
09:21 mircea_popescu asciilifeform the fact that he let the loonies out is a fact. the proposition that this had any measurable effect is loonytalk
09:21 mircea_popescu mostly off the sort of schmucks who either depend on or aim to depend on a "social worker" career
09:21 mircea_popescu which is built exactly on this proposition.
09:21 nubbins` in other shop news, i've got a lead on a new (to me) flash dryer from the shop i used to work part-time at
09:21 asciilifeform the only definitively measurable effect was on the population of bums
09:22 mircea_popescu according to whom ?
09:22 nubbins` new owners love their new flash dryer so much that they DON'T WANT their old one.
09:22 nubbins` nevermind that they've got two shirt presses and one of them can only do single-color prints because it has no flash.
09:22 nubbins` nevermind that
09:22 nubbins` sell the old, working flash to me :D
09:23 mircea_popescu sounds like you got yourselves the best sort of friends after "she likes to fuck" : the clueless.
09:23 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: perhaps not 'definitively.' but everyone i meet in usa appear to be firmly convinced that this cataclysm happened.
09:23 mircea_popescu asciilifeform doesn't this make you suspicious ?
09:23 asciilifeform sure.
09:23 * asciilifeform wasn't there yet, did not see with own eyes
09:23 mircea_popescu other things "everyone in usa" is convinced of include the fact that their feelings matter.
09:23 asciilifeform l0l aha.
09:23 mircea_popescu also without factual basis.
09:24 asciilifeform incidentally, there are still asylums, in a sese
09:24 asciilifeform *sense
09:24 asciilifeform but the denizens rotate in and out
09:24 asciilifeform this is intensely lucrative for a variety of 'social work' orgs
09:24 nubbins` http://np.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/39b67t/im_a_retired_bank_robber_ama/cs26ah1
09:24 assbot ErisGrey comments on I'm a retired bank robber. AMA! ... ( http://bit.ly/1FUOkjA )
09:24 mircea_popescu yeah, there are. over 10mn people live in them, half of which "veterans"
09:24 mircea_popescu except they're no longer centralized and so less obvious
09:24 nubbins` asylums are not fun places
09:25 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: aha. typically built into normal hospital.
09:25 * asciilifeform once visited a chum who ended up in one
09:25 mircea_popescu ah, no. that's the 1%
09:25 mircea_popescu the 99% is, basically, random apartments all over town
09:28 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-06-2015#1160260 << i made the mistake of unbanning vexual because people complained forreasons i don't fathom, and then i made the mistake of upping random name.
09:28 assbot Logged on 11-06-2015 05:42:59; davout: wtf am i reading
09:28 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-06-2015#1160273 << a ok than!
09:28 assbot Logged on 11-06-2015 07:56:37; cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-06-2015#1159166 <<< nah, that's not the conversation i was trying to have, just letting you both know so you don't assume i've wandered off
09:29 asciilifeform i think the poor fella might be #b-a's very own 'asylum veteran'
09:29 mircea_popescu maybe
09:29 nubbins` woo, new printer just arrived
09:29 * nubbins` now owns three epson 1430s
09:30 asciilifeform http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/threatlevel/2010/01/geotrax-currency-tracker.jpg << from that bank robbery thread. i think i own one of these modems, l0l!
09:30 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1IJdQzl )
09:30 asciilifeform have robbers never heard of 'rf bags' ?
09:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5619 @ 0.00037892 = 2.1292 BTC [-]
09:31 mircea_popescu what is that thing supposed to be ?
09:31 asciilifeform (according to the u.s. patents, the 'money boobytraps' are 100% rf-activated.)
09:31 asciilifeform and this one is not explosive, but a gps tracker.
09:31 nubbins` heh.
09:31 nubbins` i bet those things cost like $500ea
09:31 mircea_popescu http://i.imgur.com/LFtCt55.png <<< bwahahaha WHO THE FUCK comes up with this shit.
09:31 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1IJedKe )
09:32 mod6 <+mircea_popescu> <mod6> mod6: Sir Grayhawk, I would like to use this recipe to craft a static apple pie. Sir Grayhawk: Let me traide you for this here Universe Schematic. << WUT ?! << 'twas a joke. the old one about how a programmer wanted to bake an apple pie but first has to invent a universe. 'cept in this one static bitcoind is the pie, and the universe is gentoo/uclibc/gcc/etc. :]
09:32 mircea_popescu o god almighty, a whole generation of ignorant, poor twerps. running their own country.
09:32 mircea_popescu im so going to go on bison safari through the most powerful country in the world before long...
09:32 nubbins` hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
09:32 mircea_popescu mod6 oic
09:32 nubbins` "we're banning people, not coontown"
09:32 nubbins` i cannot even.
09:32 asciilifeform mircea_popescu will have to bring own bisons, i suspect
09:33 mircea_popescu nubbins` and the best part is, someone rolled their eyes and muttered "obviously" over this.
09:33 nubbins` hahah
09:33 nubbins` like
09:33 mircea_popescu you culd be banging her, if you got out more.
09:33 asciilifeform unless 'bisons' refers to another species altogether
09:33 nubbins` i need someone to buy me this book: http://www.beheadingboredom.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/how-to-even-for-dummies.jpg
09:33 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1FUPKuv )
09:33 mircea_popescu because they're everywhere.
09:33 nubbins` that is how much i cannot even
09:33 mircea_popescu asciilifeform it's not extinct is it ?
09:33 mircea_popescu even romania has zimbrii come back
09:33 mircea_popescu (they were throught extinct after ww2. much like anything larger than a cat)
09:34 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: supposedly was reintroduced. somewhere.
09:34 * asciilifeform only ever saw in zoo
09:34 mircea_popescu i know i had its meat so it can't be that rare.
09:34 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: ted turner invested $maxint in bison farms
09:34 mircea_popescu aha
09:36 nubbins` hm
09:36 nubbins` is the singular of zimbrii "zimbra"?
09:36 mircea_popescu zimbru
09:36 nubbins` aw.
09:36 mircea_popescu the european woolen bison, slightly smaller.
09:36 nubbins` ;;google talking heads i zimbra
09:36 gribble Talking Heads - I Zimbra (HQ) - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-RDJ4Z4XrQ>; I Zimbra - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Zimbra>; Talking Heads - I Zimbra Lyrics | MetroLyrics: <http://www.metrolyrics.com/i-zimbra-lyrics-talking-heads.html>
09:36 mircea_popescu zimbra prettyt much means hickey
09:36 nubbins` ^ worth a listen.
09:36 asciilifeform зубр
09:37 mircea_popescu him
09:37 nubbins` after clicking around on /r/coontown a bit
09:37 nubbins` i uh
09:38 * nubbins` gestures helplessly
09:38 nubbins` sure am glad reddit is a, uh.. safe space?
09:38 * nubbins` frowns, thinks
09:38 * asciilifeform waits for the reddit thread 'iama craigslist bitcoin robber, ask me anything'
09:38 mircea_popescu ad hoc legislation looks just like ad hoc coding.
09:39 mircea_popescu a) it doesn't compile, so they prefer interpreted languages instead and b) it doesn't debug, so they prefer to write more instead.
09:40 nubbins` http://b.thumbs.redditmedia.com/zCl-7opvFRrVGJEJHc8BVEV6AL8Hxdg227GzeQYJpSA.jpg
09:40 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1FUR68m )
09:40 nubbins` mis lados
09:40 asciilifeform wtf even is that
09:40 nubbins` that's ellen pao explaining why coontown wasn't one of the subreddits that got banned
09:40 asciilifeform sure, but what -was- it
09:41 asciilifeform (is?)
09:41 nubbins` is.
09:41 nubbins` http://reddit.com/r/coontown
09:41 assbot reddit.com: over 18? ... ( http://bit.ly/1FURggf )
09:41 nubbins` because maintaining a "nigger hate" forum isn't behaviour, it's an idea
09:41 nubbins` or smth
09:41 nubbins` ELLEN PAO, LOGICIAN
09:42 jurov http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-06-2015#1159677 haha i concur. and if you exposed ms-dos to untrusted data and got it to crash or worse, it was *your* fault.
09:42 assbot Logged on 10-06-2015 19:42:15; ascii_field: ms-dos was not asked to do very much. at least, at first. but i still remember screwing with qemm, xms, etc. towards the last years.
09:43 mircea_popescu I STILL PREFER MSDOS
09:43 asciilifeform as an msdos aficionado myself, i find the comparison to 'adult' os to be a rather odd one
09:43 mircea_popescu to everything i've seen since the 80s, i by a very fat large margin prefer msdos.
09:43 asciilifeform dos wasn't really 'present' in the sense unix is
09:44 mircea_popescu you know i never had a computer "freeze" ? crash, yes.
09:44 mircea_popescu but wtf is a freeze. a stable state of nonsense ?
09:44 asciilifeform proggy (esp. in the latter days, with 'protected mode' gamez etc) took over machine entirely
09:44 asciilifeform 'freeze', then, as now, is when box no longer answers to keyboard
09:44 mircea_popescu asciilifeform there is a lot to be said for this.
09:45 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: yes, which is why i am still living there. (like to program embedded chips where this holds true)
09:46 asciilifeform (re: 'freezing' - http://www.loper-os.org/?p=215 )
09:46 assbot Loper OS » First Law of Sane Personal Computing ... ( http://bit.ly/1FUSb08 )
09:46 nubbins` http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/interview/there-is-no-right-not-to-be-offended/article3969404.ece
09:46 assbot ‘There is no right not to be offended’ - The Hindu ... ( http://bit.ly/1FUSh7K )
09:47 nubbins` quote in title from salman rushdie
09:47 asciilifeform in other news,
09:47 asciilifeform http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/29E48E92BF1A5E83EAA2C9F4927191B0A345037362BC78DCB8F5BA2A3E9D8D70 http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/A42CBD68B7426A8BAE00317B4196B4551BB2673EEFCECBBD60E8D9C55255A6A0
09:47 assbot Welcome | Phuctor ... ( http://bit.ly/1FUSmsi )
09:47 nubbins` mister starck!
09:48 nubbins` one of these days i'mma read up on exactly wtf phuctor is doing
09:48 * nubbins` has laughably little hands-on experience with the nuts & bolts of this math
09:48 asciilifeform friend of yours ?
09:48 nubbins` nah
09:48 asciilifeform nubbins`: as for what it is doing, this fits in a paragraph - http://nosuchlabs.com/theory
09:48 assbot Theory | Phuctor ... ( http://bit.ly/1FUSEPG )
09:50 nubbins` ty
09:50 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: were you the one who proposed an msdos port of bitcoind ?
09:50 asciilifeform somebody did
09:50 asciilifeform (was it me...?)
09:50 mircea_popescu prolly you
09:50 nubbins` heh
09:51 asciilifeform was there a reason we didn't do this ?
09:51 asciilifeform (how tcp? over slip/rs232, of course)
09:51 mircea_popescu yes. yes there was.
09:51 asciilifeform anyone recall what it was ?
09:51 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-06-2015#1160039
09:51 assbot Logged on 11-06-2015 01:20:23; mircea_popescu: alternatively we could just leave this be for now and focus on CLOSING things rather than opening new things before we closed anything.
09:51 asciilifeform that you can't squeeze db into a 2g fat16 volume, perhaps ?
09:52 mircea_popescu before bitcoin on pogo looks like eulora/binaries,
09:52 asciilifeform (no prob. write raw blocks)
09:52 mircea_popescu you don't get to start more stuff.
09:52 asciilifeform well that was why -i- didn't do it
09:52 asciilifeform but how about other folks.
09:52 mircea_popescu that's why anyoner's not doing it.
09:52 mircea_popescu gotta focus.
09:52 nubbins` haha
09:52 nubbins` i'm still working on porting 0.5.3.1 to IBM i
09:52 nubbins` dat built-in DB.
09:53 * asciilifeform wonders of which there are more - pogos, or msdos-able boxes
09:53 mircea_popescu ‘There is no right not to be offended’ << this is broken, ftr. "there is no right TO not be offended"
09:53 mircea_popescu pogos.
09:53 * asciilifeform not so sure of this
09:54 asciilifeform speaking of - when's the last time anyone checked on the warehouse-full-of-pogos thing
09:54 asciilifeform are they still there ?
09:54 mircea_popescu asciilifeform that's scheduled for after the build's ready to go.
09:54 mircea_popescu there's no point checking in between
09:55 * asciilifeform will be disappointed if they fly away. because there is not likely to be a reasonable substitute.
09:55 asciilifeform (a $150 box is not a substitute)
09:55 nubbins` until the next time some shit cloud device get liquidated
09:55 asciilifeform nubbins`: mno. they don't overengineer them any more
09:55 mircea_popescu life is what happens while software wasn't ready.
09:55 asciilifeform no more 1G ethernet or sata
09:56 asciilifeform on any of them.
09:56 asciilifeform nor 128 whole megs.
09:56 nubbins` good thing i stocked up :(
09:56 asciilifeform (pogo itself used to come with 256, otherwise identical)
09:56 nubbins` altho i'm somewhat tempted to put my SSD in this disc duplicator instead
09:56 asciilifeform pogo is really a 400 usd widget selling for 20.
09:56 nubbins` but i suppose i should wait and see if that's a necessary thing first.
09:57 mircea_popescu only because it's 2015
09:57 mircea_popescu in 2020 it will be a 1000 usd widget
09:57 asciilifeform aha but 1000 circa 2020 is around what 100 is now.
09:57 * asciilifeform puts flower on grave of 'moore's law'
09:58 nubbins` any of you familiar with this "M-DISC" technology?
09:58 nubbins` from what i can glean from marketing hype, they use special dvd-rs and ramp up the laser strength to make "permanent" optical media
09:59 nubbins` they keep using phrases like "ETCHED IN STONE" and shit which sounds a bit much
09:59 asciilifeform nubbins`: today, as 10 yrs ago, the basic tech is same. reflective layer, and above it, something that melts
09:59 asciilifeform laser melts hole.
09:59 asciilifeform this layer is typically a dye
10:00 asciilifeform in very spiffy disks (taiyo yuden, afaik, is the -only- remaining maker) it is gold, instead.
10:00 asciilifeform but above the dye (or gold) is still plexiglas
10:00 asciilifeform it is subject to cracking, and chemical reaction with atmosphere over time
10:01 nubbins` yeah
10:01 asciilifeform (why cracking? stress from spinning in drive)
10:01 * nubbins` has seen a dremel explode a CD
10:01 asciilifeform the '1000 years' thing is utter bunk
10:02 asciilifeform even 10 is pushing it
10:02 nubbins` http://www.mdisc.com/what-is-mdisc/
10:02 assbot What is M-Disc™? - The M-DISC™ ... ( http://bit.ly/1B5gvRk )
10:02 nubbins` "up to" 1000 years
10:02 mircea_popescu asciilifeform you could make them out of plain glass.
10:02 nubbins` they use the phrase "engraved in stone" a few times
10:02 asciilifeform glass, l0l!
10:02 mircea_popescu gold+glass > lasts forevar.
10:02 nubbins` borosilicate, yo.
10:02 asciilifeform until you drop it
10:03 mircea_popescu do not drop it
10:03 mircea_popescu you can not have EVERYTHING
10:03 asciilifeform or spin it in a drive
10:03 mircea_popescu you can only has the things you choose.
10:03 mircea_popescu it spins ok.
10:03 asciilifeform how about when drive jams.
10:03 nubbins` i actually make my own discs out of bronze backed w/ ultra-black nanoparticles
10:03 mircea_popescu fuck you then.
10:03 asciilifeform and disk gets 50 G's
10:03 nubbins` i wonder how long minidisc media holds onto data?
10:04 * nubbins` found his minidisc player/recorder yesterday, still works!
10:04 asciilifeform nubbins`: recall mircea_popescu's observation that 'backup is a process not an artifact' ?
10:04 nubbins` it's "magneto-optical" so i'd say fairly transient
10:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00037892 = 5.1912 BTC [-]
10:04 nubbins` asciilifeform no, but that's sage
10:04 asciilifeform the only backup worth mention appears to be herr torvalds's 'put it on public ftp and have people give a damn and mirror'
10:05 mircea_popescu right. worked splendidly for the literary cannon
10:05 mircea_popescu everyone's read shakespeare. right ?
10:05 mircea_popescu if tomorrow i rewrite it about cocks everyone'll know
10:05 mircea_popescu RIGHT ???
10:06 asciilifeform picture if bowdler had lived -today-
10:06 mircea_popescu he does.
10:06 asciilifeform and shakespeare were a www
10:06 mircea_popescu his name is "everyone"
10:06 nubbins` heh
10:06 mircea_popescu i'm drowning in a sea of little bowdlers.
10:06 asciilifeform what would we know of proper shakespeare then
10:06 nubbins` BOWDLER LIVES AND HIS NAME IS MAN
10:06 mircea_popescu we now nothing of proper shakespeare, for this reason.
10:06 nubbins` i learned recently that shakespeare invented the name "jessica"
10:06 mircea_popescu "we don't ban ideas, we just ban anything that's unbowlder, for bowlder is us"
10:06 nubbins` !up allahisgreat2000
10:06 allahisgreat2000 Can I ask a question about bitbet here?
10:07 nubbins` allahisgreat2000: as-salaam aleikum
10:07 nubbins` oh
10:07 nubbins` i mean
10:07 nubbins` yes
10:07 allahisgreat2000 salaam friend
10:07 asciilifeform shakespeare suffers from the other problem of backups, much lamented by astronomy/physics folk crying over old pdp-8 tapes. that is, loss of reading mechanisms...)
10:07 allahisgreat2000 I'm having trouble figuring out how weight for a bet is calculated
10:07 nubbins` asciilifeform language in general suffers from loss of reading mechanisms over time
10:07 mats http://blog.wuntee.sexy/reaching-the-mach-layer << artifacts from a different era
10:08 assbot Reaching the MACH layer · blog[wuntee] ... ( http://bit.ly/1FUW3xW )
10:08 nubbins` allahisgreat2000: it's sort of complicated, and your odds will change as more people bet
10:08 mircea_popescu allahisgreat2000 ok, but ask a question.
10:08 allahisgreat2000 what stops people from betting more when the results start getting obvious and ruining your bet?
10:08 * nubbins` seriously considers purchasing a new(er) minidisc player and some more blanks, while he still can
10:09 mircea_popescu allahisgreat2000 they get lower weight for betting later.
10:09 nubbins` allahisgreat2000: generally the weight will decrease as the bet gets closer to close.
10:09 asciilifeform mats: aha, 'microkernel', academitardia circa late '80s-early-'90s that apple folks still live with today.
10:09 allahisgreat2000 but you get lower returns as well, even tho you bet early?
10:09 nubbins` allahisgreat2000: early bets have higher weight and are therefore worth more.
10:10 nubbins` a last-minute bet will take some of your winnings, yes, but they'd have to bet an enormous amount and get chump change in return
10:10 nubbins` example: https://bitbet.us/bet/791/s-mg-above-2x-par-on-october-1st-2014/
10:10 assbot BitBet - S.MG above 2x par on October 1st, 2014 :: 1.18 B (8%) on Yes, 14.07 B (92%) on No | closed 8 months 2 weeks ago ... ( http://bit.ly/1FUWsAs )
10:10 nubbins` that last bet put 8 BTC on the line, but only earned 0.2 BTC
10:10 mircea_popescu lol is that you nubbins` ?
10:10 nubbins` because the weight was so low
10:10 nubbins` mircea_popescu 8)
10:10 nubbins` had to monetize that warrant somehow
10:11 allahisgreat2000 the weight depends on time?
10:11 nubbins` allahisgreat2000: the earlier 5 BTC bet won ~0.7 BTC
10:11 nubbins` yes.
10:11 allahisgreat2000 oh ok
10:11 nubbins` note how the weight is lower for each successive bet
10:11 nubbins` initial bet weight: 100,000
10:11 nubbins` final bet weight: 24,000
10:11 mircea_popescu nubbins` clever.
10:11 allahisgreat2000 I'm trying to figure out if there could be a system to combine pool betting and livebetting/betting exchange
10:11 asciilifeform mats: can you believe, they took seriously the idea that process separation (which barely works in 'userland') could apply to device drivers!
10:12 asciilifeform on a machine with von neumann arch, and even things like dma, no less
10:12 asciilifeform what kind of dope it was necessary to smoke, to arrive at this notion, i still do not know.
10:12 nubbins` mircea_popescu it took me about a week to figure out the nuts & bolts of it.
10:12 mircea_popescu allahisgreat2000 see http://trilema.com/2013/lets-understand-mutual-betting-together/
10:12 assbot Let's understand mutual betting together on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1FUWWGP )
10:13 nubbins` but i was set to gain either way
10:13 mats asciilifeform: OSX has so many skeletons, from NeXT, Mach, and the PPC days...
10:13 nubbins` tying up 5 btc for 6 months to earn 0.7 isn't particularly lucrative; if i were to do it again, i'd do a shorter bet
10:14 allahisgreat2000 thank you i'll read that
10:14 asciilifeform mats: it is, in practice, the last remaining commercial unix
10:14 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/lets-understand-mutual-betting-together/#selection-57.90-59.33 <<->> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-06-2015#1160714 lawls.
10:14 assbot Let's understand mutual betting together on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1FUXaOp )
10:14 assbot Logged on 11-06-2015 14:13:10; nubbins`: but i was set to gain either way
10:14 asciilifeform (there are nominally others but outside of usg you will never see them)
10:14 mats you know you're rich when a 14% ROI over 6mos is considered a weak investment
10:15 nubbins` mircea_popescu living proof :D
10:15 mircea_popescu mats no, actually, that's when you know you're poor.
10:15 nubbins` mats i live the life of the carefree boheme, as alf would put it
10:15 mircea_popescu high percentile and low basis go hand in hand.
10:16 mats :(
10:16 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-06-2015#1160319 << didn't danielpbarron want it ?
10:16 assbot Logged on 11-06-2015 12:18:37; nubbins`: i've been trying to sell a single bitcoin in -otc for three days
10:16 asciilifeform nubbins`: carefree l0l. so nubbins` prints because he likes the smell of ink ?
10:16 asciilifeform and for no other reason ?
10:17 nubbins` actually, i print because there's a very basic yet powerful reinforcement in holding something of beauty that you've created with your own hands.
10:17 nubbins` i do, incidentally, like the smell of ink, but only water-based acrylic
10:17 mircea_popescu i suppose it's why boys jack off.
10:17 nubbins` plastisol smells neutral
10:17 nubbins` mircea_popescu yup
10:17 mircea_popescu also why they dislike small penii
10:17 asciilifeform lol, how did it go... 'paul graham: programmers, like painters, like making things. audience wag: so do chickens!'
10:18 mircea_popescu (women, contrary to what they project, would biologically prefer the smaller imposition)
10:18 nubbins` heh
10:18 * nubbins` imagines that most of the lurkers in here assume he's on welfare
10:18 mircea_popescu weren't you derping about having tenants ?
10:18 mircea_popescu wut welfare is that.
10:19 nubbins` just one tenant now
10:19 nubbins` mircea_popescu the majority of people on irc who don't work in tech are generally on some form of social assistance
10:19 mircea_popescu o.O
10:19 mircea_popescu i don't work in tech.
10:20 mircea_popescu do i work in tech ?
10:20 nubbins` not in this sense
10:20 mircea_popescu in other news, MANCAVE!!!1 http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8rb04QEVv1qe9d8go1_1280.jpg
10:20 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1B5kmO8 )
10:20 asciilifeform mircea_popescu is zoologist, not 'tech'
10:20 nubbins` you're not on social assistance either, which puts you on one of the tails
10:21 mircea_popescu i think "in tech" is one of those, could either be in or out depending where you want to present yourself.
10:21 mircea_popescu are women that live somewhere in the continuum between chattel property and housewife on "some form of social assistance" ?
10:21 asciilifeform recall dijkstra's observation re: how we might regard an astronomer who introduces self as 'working in telescopy' ?
10:22 mircea_popescu ahahaha
10:22 nubbins` mircea_popescu nope
10:22 mircea_popescu if not them, why anyone else ?
10:22 nubbins` unless, y'know, the husband is on social assistance.
10:22 mircea_popescu do you mean "centrally planned social assistance" ?
10:22 nubbins` i specifically mean cashing cheques written by gov.
10:23 mircea_popescu why should that make a difference.
10:23 nubbins` !!
10:23 mircea_popescu yes you do, but the model's broken.
10:23 nubbins` that's why they're sitting on irc.
10:23 asciilifeform somewhere, long ago, one fella (lost the link, unfortunately) described the 'in tech' folks as quite like the quasi-retarded assistants in a magic show, who think that the performance is actually -about- the ropes and trap doors
10:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33878 @ 0.00037857 = 12.8252 BTC [-] {2}
10:23 mircea_popescu is this going to be a reductio ab coontown argument ?
10:23 mircea_popescu asciilifeform quite apt.
10:24 mircea_popescu buncha dumb blondies all over, except they're not so nice to look at anymore.
10:24 mircea_popescu kinda the intension of my old "too dumb to sling dope" piece
10:24 nubbins` i've seen some pret-t-t-t-t-y dumb people sling dope
10:24 nubbins` "smart" ones too
10:25 mircea_popescu not this dumb.
10:27 mircea_popescu nubbins` anyway, if your definition of social assistance is "spends govt checks" then everyone in the us is on social assistance, much like everyoner ever in any developed country throughout history, at all points.
10:27 * asciilifeform waits for mircea_popescu to write sequel, 'too dumb to build igloos'
10:27 mircea_popescu because essentially what statehood means is this "we band together, get the bison, and then you can have some"
10:27 mircea_popescu so yes roman citizens lived off the imperial dole. but also fought in the wars.
10:27 mircea_popescu and yes the british citizenry lived off the imperial dole. but etc.
10:27 mircea_popescu just as soon as people become unwilling to participate, the dole dries out AND civilisation's gone
10:28 mircea_popescu they go together, these.
10:28 nubbins` my definition is "gov gives you money for not doing anything, and this is your sole source of income"
10:28 mircea_popescu your definition is dumb.
10:28 nubbins` so are most of the people on irc.
10:28 mircea_popescu what is this "not doing anything", and whence it became possible to not do anything.
10:28 asciilifeform nubbins`: what if it gives you money through six intermediaries, and instead of 'not doing anything' you have to put on a robe and chant rain prayer every day ?
10:28 asciilifeform then - not 'welfare' ?
10:29 nubbins` what if this discussion devolved to absurdity?
10:29 mircea_popescu good example.
10:29 mircea_popescu it's not absurdity yo. it's just outside of your preconceived outlook.
10:29 nubbins` lel
10:29 asciilifeform it's where i live.
10:29 mircea_popescu take the mental experiment of, two states which each consist of one woman.
10:29 mircea_popescu state a keeps her "on welfare". state b makes her work in the grocery store.
10:30 mircea_popescu i visit. if it's the case that i like the rested look of the woman in a, then state a just scored. no longer welfare.
10:30 mircea_popescu if i like the busy look of woman in b, then b just scored. a is a pos nao shame on it for its moral bending ways.
10:30 * nubbins` runs out of hands, smacks face on desk
10:30 nubbins` i'm out
10:30 mircea_popescu as you can see, the entire definition rests on what ~i~ prefer,
10:30 mircea_popescu the rich nabob states exist to please.
10:32 mircea_popescu aww, and i didn't even get to inquire if the woman that said "because we are also the only ones who give birth to men." was on welfare or not.
10:32 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: ever notice how office elevators are not specced to hold grizzly bears ?
10:32 asciilifeform why not ?
10:32 mircea_popescu situation not commonly encountered ?
10:32 asciilifeform to modern schmuck state, a character like mircea_popescu is a wtf, like a grizzly walking streets of new york
10:32 mircea_popescu not so.
10:32 asciilifeform not even considered as possibility
10:33 mircea_popescu the fact that pubescent girl has not considered the possibility of cock
10:33 mircea_popescu does not mean her cunt is not evolving with deliberate decisiveness towards accomodating it.
10:33 mircea_popescu natural processes contain their ends.
10:33 mircea_popescu this idea that homo artifex and somehow things that are are the result of deliberate reason etc...
10:33 mircea_popescu please. read some code sometime.
10:34 asciilifeform l0l who said 'reason'
10:34 mircea_popescu well then.
10:35 asciilifeform just observing that 'homo welfaricus', male and female, will live and die without encountering mircea_popescu, by approximately same reason as elevator - grizzly.
10:35 mircea_popescu or will they ?
10:35 mircea_popescu i don't have to be encountered directly.
10:35 asciilifeform if indirectly, as 'horseman' of popescucalypse - then surely.
10:35 mircea_popescu this is my objection throughout this conversation : he was cutting the definiton to its first surface, like the people in your magic show. and now you wish to cut interaction to the first branch.
10:36 mircea_popescu i will cloink you all in the head with a taleb hammer
10:37 asciilifeform well, the invocation of stretching gurlz etc. certainly suggested interaction of the flesh-to-flesh kind
10:37 asciilifeform but perhaps i'm just thick
10:38 * asciilifeform answered door, found gurl pushing jizzus saveth yer soul!!11!1 brochure in his face
10:39 asciilifeform wonder if the knocked next door, and got the fella in the gas mask
10:39 nubbins` heh
10:39 nubbins` i had my first jehovas a couple days ago
10:39 nubbins` in 4 years of living at this address
10:39 asciilifeform (these are still shoveling. they just brought out a very ornate lamp, covered in grime)
10:39 nubbins` asciilifeform maybe it's an episode of hoarders?
10:39 asciilifeform nubbins`: the interesting thing is,
10:40 asciilifeform i remarked to the pet: 'my well-informed colleagues explained to me that science knows of three species of hoarders: 'clean,' 'dirty', and 'cat' '
10:40 asciilifeform pet: 'realize that if we died tonight, the entire contents of this room will be carried out in just the same kind of black bags as are stacked over there'
10:40 nubbins` things get tangly exponentially fast with the cat ones
10:41 mircea_popescu i thought iut was "newspaper ; plastic bottle ; other"
10:41 asciilifeform crew will probably not distinguish mountain of circuit boards from the poor old woman's plastic bottles
10:41 nubbins` asciilifeform and they won't even wear spacesuits
10:41 asciilifeform they might, from general sop
10:41 nubbins` too true
10:41 mircea_popescu ahaha woman's wit...
10:41 nubbins` fool me once, etc
10:41 asciilifeform after all, who knows what a hooligan might have
10:41 asciilifeform esp. after they find the pcb etchants etc
10:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23750 @ 0.00037026 = 8.7937 BTC [-] {2}
10:42 mircea_popescu time to get satin trims alf.
10:42 nubbins` i wonder what specific changes i'd need to make to print PCBs here
10:42 asciilifeform nubbins`: surprisingly few
10:42 * nubbins` suspects "more ventilation" is high on the list
10:42 asciilifeform nubbins`: you probably already own 95% of it
10:42 * mircea_popescu hopes to visit one such house before he dies, where half is all tussled in silks and the other half is roughtly what i imagine alf already built.
10:42 mircea_popescu a happy medium between the hosts.
10:42 nubbins` asciilifeform i think solvent inks and a few chems are about all i'd need
10:42 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: pet is not the 'silks' type
10:43 mircea_popescu something like out of the buttefield 8 interiors.
10:43 mircea_popescu nubbins` by print pcbs do you mean draw on them, ordo you mean etch them ?
10:44 asciilifeform if i lived alone, would probably have treadplate put in. as such, wooden floor. only difference in decor accounted for by pet.
10:44 nubbins` draw
10:44 nubbins` ident layer
10:44 nubbins` i'm sure you could also silkscreen etching mask stuff, but sounds nasty
10:44 mircea_popescu asciilifeform how do you know she's not silks type ?
10:44 asciilifeform nubbins`: silkscreen aside, think more 'b&w photography' than printing
10:45 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: how do i know that not a dog
10:45 mircea_popescu i think there's a difference between those two is-es
10:45 nubbins` asciilifeform in fact, prepping a screen for printing is very similar to b&w photography.
10:45 asciilifeform nubbins`: the silkscreen on pcb is largely optional
10:46 nubbins` mesh is coated with photosensitive emulsion, exposed on light table w/ positive image masked
10:46 nubbins` etc
10:46 asciilifeform (component values help the folks doing the assembly, and has logo of maker, etc.)
10:46 nubbins` nod
10:46 asciilifeform nubbins`: then yes
10:46 asciilifeform can go, do now.
10:47 asciilifeform incidentally everything that is needed for small-scale (onesies-twosies) pcb making fits in a large suitcase
10:47 asciilifeform at least, mine does
10:47 nubbins` fun!
10:47 asciilifeform it is even possible to make proper soldermask (think the green glossy coat on most commercial boards) in jungle conditions, but this, i have not tried.
10:48 asciilifeform need something like the apparatus used to paint car fenders
10:48 nubbins` solder mask can be silkscreened
10:48 asciilifeform can. but any error is disastrous
10:48 nubbins` it's disastrous on a t-shirt too
10:48 nubbins` 8)
10:48 asciilifeform i mean, off by 0.1mm - straight to dump
10:48 * nubbins` doesn't make errors
10:49 nubbins` i should show you some of the multi-layer prints i've done
10:49 asciilifeform any geometric distortion - straight to dump
10:49 asciilifeform etc.
10:49 asciilifeform but yes, equipment - largely same.
10:51 * asciilifeform just realized that neighbour's car is still in its place. perhaps she... died ?
10:51 nubbins` oh maybe.
10:51 nubbins` cats almost certainly ate her face, if so
10:51 nubbins` (srs)
10:52 asciilifeform well-known
10:52 asciilifeform (what else are they supposed to eat?)
10:52 asciilifeform snatch first ?
10:52 nubbins` hm, you can silkscreen etch-resist too
10:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18400 @ 0.00038001 = 6.9922 BTC [+]
10:52 nubbins` alf HEH
10:52 decimation I read a paper recently that indicated that there was a link between long-term cat ownership and crazy
10:52 * nubbins` throws paper away and devotes life to producing PCBs
10:52 asciilifeform decimation: the toxoplasma thing ?
10:52 asciilifeform overblown
10:52 decimation yeah I suppose that's the mechanism
10:52 decimation perhaps, but when you are a crazy cat lady with 50 cats...
10:53 nubbins` i think the mechanism is lonely people buy cats and further withdraw
10:53 asciilifeform would be interesting if it worked on people the same way as on rat, though
10:53 asciilifeform causing overwhelming urge to visit the zoo, closer and closer to lions..
10:53 decimation asciilifeform: I'm typing on a genuine model m, it is better than the unicomp
10:53 nubbins` lel
10:53 decimation but it is missing keys
10:53 asciilifeform decimation: get bag of keys on 'ebay'
10:53 asciilifeform or local junk shop.
10:53 nubbins` packs of old ladies circling the shelter all day
10:53 decimation no, no 'meta'
10:53 asciilifeform all model m keys, unlike later kbds, have same geometry
10:53 decimation only alt
10:54 asciilifeform decimation: i assume you remapped capslock
10:54 asciilifeform then ctrl can be meta
10:54 decimation of course
10:54 nubbins` ^ geometry drove me away from DVORAK
10:54 decimation I didn't think of that for some reason
10:54 decimation but the whole point of remapping control is so that you don't cripple pinky
10:54 mircea_popescu so you get meta :D
10:55 asciilifeform i put meta on thumb
10:55 decimation ah right vs left
10:55 asciilifeform which is where 'alt' normally lives
10:55 mircea_popescu you emacs folk really shoulds have pedals
10:55 mircea_popescu there's no way around it
10:55 asciilifeform i have pedals.
10:55 decimation you can buy pedals
10:55 mircea_popescu the REASON it didn't use to be available was pure expense, but now every xbox comes with em
10:55 asciilifeform overrated. find that i don't used them often.
10:55 asciilifeform (reaction time. legs - long.)
10:55 mircea_popescu asciilifeform probably because they're shitty whole foot pedals
10:55 mircea_popescu try toe pedals.
10:55 asciilifeform nah
10:55 asciilifeform these are proper pedals.
10:55 decimation somehow it works for pianos
10:56 decimation but timing on the 'volume control' in the piano isn't quite as critical
10:56 mircea_popescu orly.
10:56 asciilifeform http://s192804805.onlinehome.us/ebayimages/lister4_3_14/xl_Kinesis_Savant_AC004PF_(6).jpg << quite like this.
10:56 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1JHVrDe )
10:56 decimation nevertheless, the key feel of a real model m is suprerior to unicomp
10:56 mircea_popescu asciilifeform that looks whole foot to me.
10:56 nubbins` asciilifeform those look largely inefficient
10:56 nubbins` ^^
10:57 mircea_popescu toe pedal. like one of those clickers people use to count crowds ?
10:57 asciilifeform i would like something more like what one finds in an old airplane, yes
10:57 asciilifeform but would have to build this
10:57 asciilifeform (not aware of any commercial supplier)
10:57 nubbins` you need something like a stompbox
10:57 asciilifeform mno
10:57 asciilifeform gotta be digital
10:57 mircea_popescu right, because a clicker's hard nao
10:57 asciilifeform as in, hard transition
10:57 nubbins` stompbox casing w/ whatever switch you like
10:58 asciilifeform can rest foot on it?
10:58 decimation asdf asdfasdfasdfsasdfasdfasdfsdfa~/
10:58 decimation 44444545451234123
10:58 decimation doh sorry for the chan spam
10:58 asciilifeform ( mircea_popescu was largely correct, one reason i'm not overly fond of this pedal is the difficulty of resting the foot )
10:58 nubbins` how about a sewing machine pedal?
10:58 asciilifeform again, analogue
10:58 asciilifeform i must have the click
10:59 nubbins` kick drum pedal w/ clicky button under the hammer.
10:59 decimation yeah, instant feedback
10:59 nubbins` wait, no
10:59 nubbins` apple "magic mouse" resting on floor.
10:59 nubbins` 8)
10:59 asciilifeform (btw i began with a sewing machine pedal. turns out, they have terrible analogue noise in the switching mechanism )
10:59 mircea_popescu asciilifeform you know you could prolly hack a gravimeter off an old "smart"phone and a sock together into an excellent pedal.
10:59 asciilifeform again gotta have the click-snap
10:59 mircea_popescu arbitrarily defined and hten learned
10:59 asciilifeform not enough to just push foot against piece of shit
10:59 decimation without tactile feedback for when shit 'breaks'
11:00 asciilifeform (which is why 'data glove' is lunacy)
11:00 mircea_popescu ah, no, this was for sitting crosslegged
11:00 mircea_popescu and twitch your off the ground foot
11:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3350 @ 0.00038001 = 1.273 BTC [+]
11:00 nubbins` asciilifeform have you considered just mounting a keyboard spring mechanism on a piece of wood and putting a hinged cover on it?
11:00 mircea_popescu i dunno how much you folk spend crosslegged tho
11:00 nubbins` you could use your favourite letter.
11:00 decimation what about that guy who did the card-counting scam in the casino
11:00 asciilifeform nubbins`: considered a gigantic version of 'buckling spring' as seen in model m
11:01 asciilifeform but realized that it has to be finely adjustible
11:01 decimation he used a foot-counter of some kind
11:01 asciilifeform decimation: he used a tact switch in his show.
11:01 asciilifeform shoe
11:01 nubbins` asciilifeform put some levelers under the spring mech so you can raise/lower it
11:01 asciilifeform under toe.
11:01 nubbins` even a simple turnscrew
11:01 asciilifeform nubbins`: arrived at this very thing. but did not build, because too few hands.
11:01 asciilifeform it is still on the list.
11:01 nubbins` well :D
11:02 decimation on the other hand, organists play entire keyboard with feet
11:02 asciilifeform decimation: 'not from a good life'
11:02 asciilifeform the instrument demands it.
11:02 decimation go to a church with a proper pipe organ and see
11:02 nubbins` it's true
11:02 * asciilifeform saw
11:02 nubbins` the hands are just for show
11:03 nubbins` like a conductor
11:03 nubbins` 8)
11:03 decimation not only that but ranks of pull-switches to change voice
11:03 asciilifeform decimation: i recently learned that one of the great theatre organs, 'wurlitzers,' still works!
11:03 nubbins` asciilifeform arcade-style buttons have a nice click and reasonable action
11:04 asciilifeform nubbins`: perhaps when they're new? i don't think i've ever encountered one that wasn't obviously mashed to all hell
11:04 asciilifeform decimation: http://www.adrianworks.com/pod/source/image/berkeley-theatre-organ.jpg << these
11:04 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1JHWmDM )
11:04 nubbins` http://i01.i.aliimg.com/wsphoto/v0/610198841_1/50-PCS-lot-America-style-Round-Push-Button-parts-for-arcade-game-machine-white-black-blue.jpg
11:04 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1JHWkM9 )
11:04 decimation asciilifeform: they are now associated with 'black church music'
11:04 nubbins` i've got a box full of them somewhere
11:04 decimation but used to be common in everyday 'talkie'
11:04 nubbins` nice click. i think they bounce like crazy tho
11:04 asciilifeform http://www.cotps.com/cotps-sold/i205.jpg << percussion section from a 'wurlitzer'
11:05 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1JHWpPU )
11:05 nubbins` but very satisfying to push
11:05 * nubbins` frowns, considers building MAME cabinet
11:05 decimation heh that's neat
11:05 decimation obviously the point was to save on labor - 'one man band'
11:06 asciilifeform aha.
11:06 * asciilifeform bbl
11:06 nubbins` JESUS that's an organ
11:06 nubbins` this is like the analog equivalent of a room-sized Moog
11:06 * decimation back to the mines...
11:06 BingoBoingo http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-06-2015#1160496 << Almost all 'Murican Bison live on closed ranches now, Ted Turner et all. Almost all are genertically 25-50% cow in ancestry
11:06 assbot Logged on 11-06-2015 13:33:12; asciilifeform: unless 'bisons' refers to another species altogether
11:07 nubbins` i thought you guys called em buffalo
11:08 BingoBoingo Wild Bison release still largely verboten for the same reason they were eradicated. Transportation issues and can't let the Sioux get a foothold.
11:09 mircea_popescu bison bison is one thing, the us buffalo. bison bonasus is the european guy, like the one discussed above.
11:09 mircea_popescu there is no "bison" outside of this.
11:10 mircea_popescu and bos sp (ie, cows/oxen of all types) hybridize with it.
11:10 mircea_popescu unlike the case with eq. africanus / eq, caballus, the offspring's not usually infertile.
11:12 mircea_popescu (the yak, although long haired, is still a sort of cow, rather than a sort of bison)
11:17 nubbins` theatre organs, who knew
11:17 nubbins` fascinating
11:18 BingoBoingo Oh http://qntra.net/2015/06/popescus-response-to-bhararas-ulbrict-sentencing-commentary-inquisition/#comment-26807
11:18 assbot Popescu's Response to Bharara's Ulbrict Sentencing Commentary Inquisition | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1KZtLHf )
11:20 mircea_popescu and in unrelated stuff : it is perhaps known by the esteemed audience that the (mostly) lacedemonian cult of hyacinth most likely provided the backing for most of christianity's christ-centric mythology (as opposed to its mary fixations).
11:20 mircea_popescu specifically, this was a very accomplished youth that was disputed by the sun god and the wind god, and favoured the sun god. so the wind god arranged for something to fall on his head.
11:20 mircea_popescu but then he was... reborn.
11:21 mircea_popescu so they had a festival (hyacinthia) which took three days, and the first was mourning, and the 2nd celebration over the alleged rebirth and so on.
11:21 mircea_popescu all this, a good five to ten centuries before jewish sect split off.
11:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18774 @ 0.00037137 = 6.9721 BTC [-] {2}
11:22 mircea_popescu and the spartans took breaks from their wars to go back and celebrate... hyacinthsmas.
11:23 mircea_popescu !up ksipax
11:23 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo haha ocol
11:25 pete_dushenski lol hyacinthmas !
11:26 pete_dushenski i could see secular post-post-modern version being 'narcissismas'
11:27 pete_dushenski http://www.contravex.com/FirefoxSetup29.exe << mystery "firefox 29" version from oldapps.com hosted
11:27 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1JHZBLc )
11:27 pete_dushenski i also found that the winbloze "firefox 29" links to... the exact same mystery file
11:28 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/01/want-high-end-flight-sim-pedals-put-500-in-a-polish-bank-account-and-contact-slaw/
11:28 assbot Want high-end flight sim pedals? Put $500 in a Polish bank account and contact Slaw | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1JHZK1q )
11:28 pete_dushenski in the 20-odd other versions i checked, all the others linked to the expected file
11:29 mircea_popescu haha narcissismas works
11:29 mircea_popescu "at this sacred time of the year we go back home to be by ourselves)
11:31 pete_dushenski "on our phones. in front of the mirror. while sitting on the shitter."
11:31 pete_dushenski "it's how we remember where we came from and where we're going"
11:32 pete_dushenski in other news, inflation strikes mozilla : "Mozilla has more than doubled the cash rewards under its dusty bug bounty to beyond $10,000."
11:32 pete_dushenski up from $3k 5 years ago
11:35 BingoBoingo Ok they keep rolling in http://qntra.net/2015/06/popescus-response-to-bhararas-ulbrict-sentencing-commentary-inquisition/#comment-26810
11:35 assbot Popescu's Response to Bharara's Ulbrict Sentencing Commentary Inquisition | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1JI0EuH )
11:35 mircea_popescu lmao
11:36 pete_dushenski hahaha notbad
11:37 mircea_popescu http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mc87lbpH7r1rsl8k7o1_500.gif << woman's shadow, greatly exceeds the size of the woman
11:37 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1JI0YcV )
11:38 pete_dushenski guy watching shadow out of corner of his eye
11:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31150 @ 0.00036224 = 11.2838 BTC [-] {2}
11:53 scoopbot_revived Exodus From New York Begins http://qntra.net/2015/06/exodus-from-new-york-begins/
11:58 BingoBoingo ;;later tell copypaste nice work https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHOBXVZVIAAMylU.png:large
11:58 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1MsRGPN )
11:58 pete_dushenski "the fledgling accountless Bitcoin gaming site Satoshi Dice lead it to a long reign" << BingoBoingo wordiness aside, it's missing "and"
11:58 gribble The operation succeeded.
11:59 BingoBoingo Fixed, pete_dushenski but instead of "and" fixed it with "ing"
12:00 pete_dushenski BingoBoingo: also "as the most popular Bitcoin gambling sites of the time." << mixing singular and plural
12:02 mircea_popescu i can't read that fuckin ss. can't it be a log in text format like with sane ppls.
12:04 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: copypaste twatter'd it as an image
12:04 BingoBoingo Basically copypaste pointed out reddit users are cuckolds who just take it
12:05 mircea_popescu anyway, copypaste has it. "adjusting to circumvent the rules" is more empowering of the idiots than actually following the rules. NO. let them go hang with their rules.
12:06 mircea_popescu david thorne basically has it : http://www.27bslash6.com/massanutten.html
12:06 assbot Massanutten. Water slides, mini-golf and bears. ... ( http://bit.ly/1JMHJ0r )
12:06 mircea_popescu Regardless of whether you waive the fine or not, and despite conditional terms added to reassert authority, I will continue to secure trash correctly.
12:06 mircea_popescu there shall be no toleration of improper authority.
12:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59176 @ 0.00036591 = 21.6531 BTC [+] {2}
12:17 mircea_popescu http://www.27bslash6.com/interviews.html << look at that, he updated.
12:17 assbot "How is this an issue? Just ask ten fucking interview questions." ... ( http://bit.ly/1MsVCjq )
12:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40367 @ 0.00038149 = 15.3996 BTC [+]
12:19 pete_dushenski "I have also heard that music soothes the savage beast but the last time I sang Whitney Houston's 'The Greatest Love of All' to my offspring, it had the opposite effect despite what I considered to be an excellent reproduction of her tonal range." << combined with dog/bear in jeep and... i died !
12:21 BingoBoingo Have an actual zippo now apparently there is something 'Murica still manufacters well http://imgur.com/y8raHin
12:21 assbot Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1MsWggS )
12:22 pete_dushenski "I know someone who contracted Ross River Virus several years ago and he needs to be pushed around in a wheel-chair, moaning the whole time about his joints and inadequate ramp access. I visited him in his ground-floor apartment once but it was a miserable and forced conversation so I told him I had a present for him in the car and went to get it. Then drove home."
12:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12653 @ 0.00038149 = 4.827 BTC [+]
12:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 105900 @ 0.00036061 = 38.1886 BTC [-] {5}
12:25 nubbins` http://gschoppe.com/embedded/the-anonybox-squid-socks-and-openvpn-all-for-15/
12:25 assbot The AnonyBox – Squid, SOCKS, and OpenVPN, all for $15 | Gschoppe.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1MsWVia )
12:25 pete_dushenski quite the little spread between bid/ask on mpoe these last few days.
12:28 BingoBoingo Oh, reddit banned an subreddit dedicated to actual whale watching thinking it was a part of the fat hate movement https://archive.is/nsZKC
12:28 assbot whalewatching ... ( http://bit.ly/1JMJUkr )
12:30 mircea_popescu pete_dushenski im surprised he's not a lot more widely known.
12:30 mircea_popescu for instance i have nfi how it's possible alfie's not a fan
12:30 pete_dushenski he's... not ?!
12:30 mircea_popescu i dunno
12:30 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo ahaha
12:31 pete_dushenski i came across thorne a few years back when a friend bought me a collection of his stories
12:31 pete_dushenski epic lulzfest
12:32 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo and i expect reddit admins don't now self ban for the whale watching incident because while they don't ban ideas but actiosn, nevertheless their own actions are extempt, because
12:32 mircea_popescu "io was just doing my job"
12:32 pete_dushenski pretty sure i mentioned and sourced (at least) one of his pieces for a contravex article a few months back
12:32 mircea_popescu ie, to the bureaucrat's mind, HE is the only one entitled to be in the world (on account of his job)
12:32 BingoBoingo Seriously
12:32 mircea_popescu everyone else - just a guest here.
12:32 mircea_popescu which is exactly what we'll be doing to them.
12:32 mircea_popescu everyone ELSE is entitled to be here
12:32 mircea_popescu but bureaucrats have no civil rights
12:32 mircea_popescu you feel rapey one morning, rape a cop.
12:32 mircea_popescu that's what they're there for.
12:33 BingoBoingo This seems to be the reddit's last inflection point on the digg curve https://archive.is/p72br
12:33 assbot all subreddits ... ( http://bit.ly/1JMKpuK )
12:33 pete_dushenski the world must conform to the bureaucrat's 'ideas', namely, the words scrawled on the 'regulation' piece of paper
12:33 pete_dushenski though they have no idea from whence these words came
12:33 pete_dushenski 'mana from heaven'
12:33 mircea_popescu pete_dushenski the funny thing is, they watched the internet completely destroy the journalism business model, 1990-2010
12:33 pete_dushenski "you should be grateful"
12:34 mircea_popescu and did not for a second realise that... guess who's next ?
12:34 mircea_popescu as they say, if you don't know who's next.... you're next.
12:34 punkman oh a new one http://www.27bslash6.com/chairs.html
12:34 assbot It's like an involuntary tic or a really boring form of Tourette's ... ( http://bit.ly/1JMKv5A )
12:34 pete_dushenski "first they came for... etc"
12:35 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: bureaucrats probably assumed they could throw manufacturing under the bus next
12:35 pete_dushenski perhaps academia
12:35 mircea_popescu except nobody asks them :)
12:35 pete_dushenski true !
12:36 BingoBoingo Seriously though zippo, works exactly as advertsed while made in USia. I did not know anything like this was still made
12:37 pete_dushenski BingoBoingo: simple enough mechanism, i guess
12:37 pete_dushenski not a car, dishwasher, etc
12:37 BingoBoingo My though is maybe the manufactering setup is too expensive to move?
12:38 pete_dushenski also, smokers are a traditional bunch, not looking for bluetooth connectivity on their zippo
12:38 pete_dushenski BingoBoingo: more likely brand value of "made in usa" and sufficiently cheap labour (non-union)
12:38 BingoBoingo yes we are
12:39 BingoBoingo Well the thing is stamped pennsylvania so likely union
12:39 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo could be a case of brazil made but well hidden fact fraud. how do you know it's us made ?
12:40 BingoBoingo that is a point
12:41 BingoBoingo Can't find anything online about the great zippo layoff though
12:41 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-06-2015#1160746 << 'majority' is only 51%, even though i agree that 'direct welfare' is an awful definition
12:41 assbot Logged on 11-06-2015 14:19:43; nubbins`: mircea_popescu the majority of people on irc who don't work in tech are generally on some form of social assistance
12:42 mircea_popescu in any case, i'll make the point that i am not at all against welfare, but i am dead-stone-cold against the state having anything to do with it.
12:43 mircea_popescu it's a source of power for it that it should never even dream of, and it's a source of moral hazard for society the likes of which can not even be described.
12:43 nubbins` ;;later tell asciilifeform http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=ze5GxP7V
12:43 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mt0jK5 )
12:43 gribble The operation succeeded.
12:43 mircea_popescu welfare, like ownership of women and children, should be strictly in the hands of the citizenry.
12:44 mircea_popescu (the two incidentally are not at all that distinct, welfare and ownership of people as things)
12:45 pete_dushenski just found a curious bug in search.b-a : if the search contains the '%' symbol, clicking 'next page' sends you back to the blank search homepage
12:45 pete_dushenski ^kakobrekla
12:46 pete_dushenski not necessarily a big deal, just to note.
12:47 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: so it's in the state's interest to maximise welfare distribution
12:47 pete_dushenski as it would be for any private citizen
12:47 mircea_popescu well, it baloons because the state doesn't have to pay for it.
12:48 mircea_popescu if i got to sign checks off your bank account, i could probably have enough "friends" to fill your house with drunks.
12:48 pete_dushenski whereas a citizen is limited by his own pocketbook, right.
12:48 mircea_popescu if you also gotta make that money first...
12:48 mircea_popescu as shown by the relative rarity of homeowners filling thew place with drunks.
12:48 mircea_popescu (rent!=ownership here)
12:51 pete_dushenski which gives us "low-income/social" housing
12:52 pete_dushenski !up ascii_field
12:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29077 @ 0.00036356 = 10.5712 BTC [+] {3}
12:55 nubbins` ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-06-2015#1161149
12:55 assbot Logged on 11-06-2015 16:43:17; nubbins`: ;;later tell asciilifeform http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=ze5GxP7V
12:56 nubbins` i believe you requested this a while back
13:01 pete_dushenski ;;bc,stats
13:01 gribble Current Blocks: 360488 | Current Difficulty: 4.758959115362501E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 360863 | Next Difficulty In: 375 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 8 hours, 57 minutes, and 43 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
13:01 pete_dushenski none...
13:01 pete_dushenski ;;nethash
13:01 gribble 383308350.87
13:01 pete_dushenski mhm.
13:03 ascii_field nubbins`: i'm out here sans key
13:03 ascii_field will have to look, later
13:03 nubbins` a treat for later
13:03 ascii_field ok
13:04 ascii_field BingoBoingo: afaik NOBODY makes good digital pedals
13:04 ascii_field (entirely not same animal as racing or flightsim pedals)
13:04 BingoBoingo ascii_field: Ah digital. yeah that's analog
13:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25900 @ 0.00038149 = 9.8806 BTC [+]
13:09 ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-06-2015#1161101 << wai wat, of what ?
13:09 assbot Logged on 11-06-2015 16:30:29; mircea_popescu: for instance i have nfi how it's possible alfie's not a fan
13:10 BingoBoingo ascii_field: of the thorne guy
13:11 BingoBoingo ascii_field: http://www.27bslash6.com/easter.html
13:11 assbot "Nowhere in the Bible does Jesus have a sword fight." ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mt4Wnr )
13:13 ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-06-2015#1161134 << what's it, a bottle of petrol and a flint ?
13:13 assbot Logged on 11-06-2015 16:36:46; BingoBoingo: Seriously though zippo, works exactly as advertsed while made in USia. I did not know anything like this was still made
13:13 ascii_field archetypically american archaicism
13:13 ascii_field (butane lighters have existed for what, half a century now ?)
13:13 BingoBoingo ascii_field: It's a wick that runs through a course of rayon balls soaked in naptha
13:14 BingoBoingo Excels in the wind which is a constant bane of the smoker
13:15 BingoBoingo Not a single moving part or wear item that isn't user servicable
13:17 * BingoBoingo has used butane lighters for the longest time, almost always disposable. The refilable ones don't tend to last.
13:17 ascii_field BingoBoingo: i often find these on the pavement. when turned over, they invariably read 'made in china'
13:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16900 @ 0.00036392 = 6.1502 BTC [-] {2}
13:17 BingoBoingo I've had previous lighters of the zippo form before , but they almost always leaked within weeks of purchase
13:18 BingoBoingo And if Imma smoke cigarettes I don't want my meat becoming a fire hazard
13:20 nubbins` ascii_field "fake zippos" are plentiful and outnumber the real ones thousands to one
13:20 nubbins` "real zippos" come with lifetime warranties, and if you mail them a broken zippo from 1930 they'll fix it for free
13:21 nubbins` and truly are windproof
13:21 nubbins` i can hold one 6" from my face and empty my lungs at it without extinguishing the flame
13:21 * BingoBoingo has been lighing cigarettes in front of fans in awe. I don't know what I was missing with "Bic"
13:21 nubbins` that said, the ubiquitous Bic lighter is a marvel in its own right
13:22 BingoBoingo It is. Bic will probably remain my lighter for driving
13:22 BingoBoingo !up ascii_field
13:22 ascii_field BingoBoingo: why not the electric lighter built into the car?
13:23 BingoBoingo My beloved Saturn, which has forded floods and traversed cornfields... lacks one
13:23 BingoBoingo Instead it has utility plug which rejects replacement lighters
13:24 BingoBoingo Just refuses to heat them
13:24 ascii_field wai wat, how ?!
13:24 BingoBoingo I dunno how, but I've tried.
13:24 nubbins` heh
13:24 nubbins` contact the dealership
13:24 BingoBoingo Maybe some Z80 motherfucker detects the resistance of a lighter
13:24 nubbins` my car also has a "power outlet" w/ no lighter
13:25 nubbins` but those things suck anyway
13:25 nubbins` dodgy to use
13:25 BingoBoingo nubbins`: Dealership was rental place which rented car previously
13:25 BingoBoingo !up mixdio
13:25 nubbins` just as likely for the cig to stick to the coil and you end up with a hot cherry in your lap
13:25 nubbins` plus they get dirty w/ ash etc
13:26 nubbins` about as sensible as lighting a cig on an electric stove element while in the home
13:26 BingoBoingo nubbins`: Yeah in previous car I disliked it. Cig sticks the thing stays hot so potential disaster if dropped. No point in it if it can only be safely used while parked or staopped
13:26 nubbins` i dropped the car lighter once while driving, had to pull over
13:26 BingoBoingo <nubbins`> about as sensible as lighting a cig on an electric stove element while in the home << have done this numberous times. Works splendidly
13:26 nubbins` works splendidly but i bet you swore for a bic each time
13:27 BingoBoingo Nah, only most times. Most times did it as a party trick for visiting smoker guests.
13:31 nubbins` all this talk of smoking
13:31 nubbins` :/
13:31 ascii_field in other news,
13:31 ascii_field http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/010E565743AC6268C327A10B9AEB8895E66ED05F3931E9B54673500CD5B5CA76 http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/BC3860B1F474ECBA8A5E4B3EE68EC611E2A60731994E56C22070EC864766D4A6
13:31 assbot Welcome | Phuctor ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mt9wC0 )
13:31 assbot Welcome | Phuctor ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mt9zOi )
13:33 * BingoBoingo pretty sure he has figured out the part of leak resistance most zippo clones neglect.
13:34 BingoBoingo combination of plated brass case and steel fuel holding insert is the trick (beyond measurements)
13:35 nubbins` brass and steel huh
13:36 BingoBoingo nubbins`: Well think about the metals in terms on conparatice hardness and their willingness to flex
13:36 nubbins` i will do no such thing!
13:38 nubbins` http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/medical-marijuana-legal-in-all-forms-supreme-court-rules-1.3109148
13:38 assbot Medical marijuana legal in all forms, Supreme Court rules - Politics - CBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1MtbmTF )
13:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27900 @ 0.00036801 = 10.2675 BTC [+]
13:40 BingoBoingo fine, the outer case is a plated flexible Brass, the inner insert is rigid steel. There is a taper and ring combination between the case and inset that is tight to non-polar fluids. Aluminum on aluminum and Zamac on Zamac don't accomplish this. <<< ATTN CHINESE COUNTERFEITERS PLS ACK
13:40 nubbins` related:
13:40 nubbins` http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/my-qp-why-does-my-child-have-to-smoke-his-medical-marijuana-1.2841202
13:40 assbot My QP: Why does my child have to smoke his medical marijuana? - Politics - CBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1MtbQcm )
13:40 nubbins` 10yo kid has severe epilepsy, weed reduces their frequency by 99%, kid is not permitted to eat hash brownie
13:41 nubbins` MUST smoke joint
13:41 nubbins` (until today!)
13:41 BingoBoingo Brass though generaly a useful metal. doesn't spark.
13:43 nubbins` "We will continue to combat it. We will continue our anti-drug strategy, we will target youth with the message that marijuana pot is bad for them," the minister said.
13:43 nubbins` marijuana pot is bad for you
13:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21650 @ 0.00035513 = 7.6886 BTC [-]
13:50 * jurov hits nubbins` into the head with the pot
13:50 jurov BAD FOR YA, I TOLD YOU
13:53 * BingoBoingo may be wrong about bimetallic theory, 0.5 BTC is too much to test at the moment http://www.zippo.com/product.aspx?id=1023714
13:53 assbot Zippo - Slim® (Style #1500-000038-Z) ... ( http://bit.ly/1KCCHV1 )
13:53 BingoBoingo !up ascii_field
13:55 BingoBoingo !up allahisgreat2000
13:55 allahisgreat2000 ty
13:55 BingoBoingo allahisgreat2000: Further BitBet questions?
13:55 allahisgreat2000 yes
13:56 jurov ;;seen yhwh
13:56 gribble I have not seen yhwh.
13:56 BingoBoingo !up BoobBarker
13:56 jurov ;;seen yhwh_
13:56 gribble yhwh_ was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 16 weeks, 1 day, 4 hours, 30 minutes, and 46 seconds ago: <yhwh_> tight
13:56 BingoBoingo allahisgreat2000: continue
13:56 allahisgreat2000 I just wanted to ask why the provision is so low
13:56 BingoBoingo Which provision?
13:56 allahisgreat2000 the 1 %
13:56 allahisgreat2000 bitbet takes
13:56 BingoBoingo Because some bets get BIG
13:57 kakobrekla cheap whores
13:57 BingoBoingo ;;google biggest bets on Bitbet
13:57 gribble BitBet - Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire as an investment :: 1121.15 B ...: <https://bitbet.us/bet/786/bitcoin-to-surpass-berkshire-as-an-investment/>; BitBet: <https://bitbet.us/>; BitBet history on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/2015/bitbet-history/>
13:57 BingoBoingo But yes also cheap whores
13:57 allahisgreat2000 oh nice
13:58 allahisgreat2000 someone lost 400,000 dollars hahahahahha
13:58 allahisgreat2000 I can't help but laugh
13:58 allahisgreat2000 sorry
13:59 jurov wait till you lose big on "easy" bets
13:59 kakobrekla jus bet on no
13:59 allahisgreat2000 basically
13:59 allahisgreat2000 just bet against bitcoin and you're fine
13:59 jurov do is mell martingale?
14:00 BingoBoingo Not always bet against bitcoin, and not always on no
14:00 allahisgreat2000 why did some bets get so much popularity
14:00 BingoBoingo ;;google bitbet worth more than satoshi dice
14:00 gribble Satoshi Dice - The Biggest Bitcoin Game in the World: <https://www.satoshidice.com/>; NEXT: 06-03-2014 - #bitcoin-assets log: <http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2014>; A New Spin on Parimutuel Wagering - Btc Alpha: <http://www.btcalpha.com/blog/2014/a-new-spin-on-parimutuel-wagering/>
14:01 BingoBoingo ;;google site:bitbet.us bitbet worth more than satoshi dice
14:01 gribble BitBet - CLAM losing grip -> sells 0.0029 or lower before April 25th ...: <https://bitbet.us/bet/1121/clam-losing-grip-sells-0-0029-or-lower/>
14:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5043 @ 0.00035513 = 1.7909 BTC [-]
14:02 allahisgreat2000 are there other sites like bitbet?
14:03 BingoBoingo https://bitbet.us/bet/113/bitbet-will-we-worth-more-than-satoshi-dice/
14:03 assbot BitBet - BitBet will we worth more than Satoshi Dice :: 3.92 B (18%) on Yes, 17.83 B (82%) on No | closed 1 year 11 months ago ... ( http://bit.ly/1MthlHX )
14:03 BingoBoingo Not really
14:03 allahisgreat2000 if not they could probably raise to 5%, I don't think it would seriously set people back from betting
14:04 allahisgreat2000 and that's 5x the profit
14:04 allahisgreat2000 just my 2 percent
14:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13600 @ 0.00035874 = 4.8789 BTC [+] {2}
14:11 BingoBoingo allahisgreat2000: Well, the thing is since they already get betting volume 1% keeps away erstwhile competitors
14:12 pete_dushenski BingoBoingo: 0.5 btc too much for lighter, then 50 btc is right out eh. http://www.zippo.com/product.aspx?id=1023765
14:12 assbot Zippo - Classic (Style #195-001-Z) ... ( http://bit.ly/1MtjCTx )
14:12 pete_dushenski hm. lighter or mpex seat.
14:13 BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: Indeed
14:14 allahisgreat2000 bitbet trades on mpex
14:14 allahisgreat2000 is it a registered company?
14:14 allahisgreat2000 or how does it work
14:15 pete_dushenski in other news, rupert murdoch stepped down as ceo of 21st century fox today
14:16 allahisgreat2000 i'll try to google it I guess
14:17 BingoBoingo allahisgreat2000: It trades is registered on MPEx
14:18 allahisgreat2000 it trades as a registered company itself?
14:19 pete_dushenski allahisgreat2000: being traded on mpex is a registration of sorts unto itself
14:19 pete_dushenski arguably the one and only (tm)
14:21 mircea_popescu <BingoBoingo> Excels in the wind which is a constant bane of the smoker << this. butane sucks.
14:21 mircea_popescu i dunno who the fuck uses them for for what.
14:22 BingoBoingo I mean the butane torch lighters are cool... until they need refilled
14:23 allahisgreat2000 why does mpex has such a poor layout?
14:23 mircea_popescu because you're new and have nfi.
14:23 mircea_popescu !up ascii_field
14:23 allahisgreat2000 it's still shitty
14:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15719 @ 0.00036532 = 5.7425 BTC [+]
14:25 mircea_popescu M * 193 ? heh
14:25 TheNewDeal for the lelz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp2CEJb4oyY
14:25 assbot Criminal Masterminds: Man uses balloons to dispose of illegal drugs - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mtmyj7 )
14:25 BingoBoingo <allahisgreat2000> why does mpex has such a poor layout? << easy to parse
14:27 mircea_popescu ftr i'd rather not see more from this derp this year.
14:27 BingoBoingo yeah
14:28 mircea_popescu "oh raise it 5x it'd raise 5x and wouldn't lower 5x just my 2%" he should probably target young people with pot messages.
14:28 nubbins` so i now have "concierge service" with the royal canadian mint
14:28 nubbins` o.O
14:28 mircea_popescu either that or he's one of those people who've been targetted by ministers
14:28 mircea_popescu which IS bad for them
14:28 ascii_field mircea_popescu: add an item to the 'civilization no longer knows how to make these not be garbage' list: logic analyzers...
14:28 mircea_popescu the jury's still out on weed. but fucking ministers are HORRIBLE for youth
14:29 nubbins` i'll be the first to say weed messes kids up
14:29 nubbins` i guess i won't be the first.
14:29 nubbins` heh
14:30 mircea_popescu http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mc1pvnNEvi1r3si7eo1_500.gif << liek fresh apple pie
14:30 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1MtnAvw )
14:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18710 @ 0.00036532 = 6.8351 BTC [+]
14:31 TheNewDeal speaking of fresh. Yesterday was quite the day in fresh news
14:31 mircea_popescu wha happened ?
14:31 TheNewDeal 4 articles published
14:32 TheNewDeal and I think 3 were in a matter of a few hours
14:32 mircea_popescu o you mean qntra ?
14:32 TheNewDeal well I said news, of course
14:33 TheNewDeal whats the 1 day record?
14:33 mircea_popescu might have been... gotta consult teh experts.
14:35 TheNewDeal looks like feb 18th might have it
14:35 TheNewDeal scratch that
14:36 mircea_popescu so why not write one an' help the records along?
14:36 TheNewDeal oO
14:37 BingoBoingo If I remember right 5-ish was the record
14:37 TheNewDeal Oct 9th, 2013 - (11)
14:38 TheNewDeal I had an idea for one titled the U.S. War on Crptography, but it started looking like garbage to me. Might have to go back for a rewrite
14:39 mircea_popescu the first 10`000 or so rewrites are always the hardest
14:39 mircea_popescu you go numb after that.
14:39 TheNewDeal hahaha
14:40 mircea_popescu !up goregrind
14:44 BingoBoingo TheNewDeal: Instead of big sweeping pieces it is easier to start with smaller ones that lead to a big sweeping piece later. It is alwas possible to cite oneself later
14:45 TheNewDeal not a bad idea
14:45 TheNewDeal Although I think I'm slightly braindamaged and forget how to find real news. Where exists real breaking news these days, outside of the propaganda machine?
14:46 TheNewDeal the blagosphere?
14:46 BingoBoingo AH, actual news is hard to find
14:51 jurov if you do stuff, real news will find you
14:51 mircea_popescu TheNewDeal actually, you could go ask people things.
14:52 mircea_popescu take random "event" as reported by the noisemakers, ask the people involved intelligent questions, write down their answers.
14:52 mircea_popescu can't miss. nobody in "journalism" has asked an intelligent question since that time in 1996 that chick asked me if she may suck my cock.
14:53 jurov lol as today, due to my stint at hard-of-hearing nonprofit (now defunct, but my phone is still listed on only non-derpy slovak website related to hearing disability)
14:53 jurov i got a call from immigration police
14:54 jurov "we have sme deaf ukrainians here, we dun know wtf to do"
14:54 kakobrekla did you tell em they are just pretending
14:55 mircea_popescu ^
14:55 jurov heh i had to explain them twice why the sign language may be different here and there, their manner convinced me they are genuine cops
14:55 mircea_popescu not the cops. the ukrs.
14:56 jurov oh. never occurred to me
14:56 mircea_popescu lol
14:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20563 @ 0.00036532 = 7.5121 BTC [+]
14:57 jurov but i meant that as illustration for TheNewDeal that if you get involved, things happen. soe are ordinary, like this, some are newsworthy, like eulora
14:57 pete_dushenski BingoBoingo: for your qntsideration http://dpaste.com/1W2XWE9.txt
14:57 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1GACt0x )
14:57 TheNewDeal ahhh
14:58 mircea_popescu he has a point there.
15:02 scoopbot_revived 17-year-old Virginian Pleads Guilty to Tweeting About Bitcoin and ISIS http://qntra.net/2015/06/17-year-old-virginian-pleads-guilty-to-tweeting-about-bitcoin-and-isis/
15:03 pete_dushenski ^another poor kid signed the papers
15:03 mircea_popescu "using the only and only cryptocurrency" ?
15:04 pete_dushenski hm. "one and only"
15:04 pete_dushenski please to fix BingoBoingo
15:04 pete_dushenski only^2 !!
15:05 pete_dushenski 1 is the onliest number
15:05 BingoBoingo fxd
15:05 pete_dushenski cheers
15:05 BingoBoingo https://archive.is/5iYsa
15:05 assbot Reminder that Ellen Pao, reddit's CEO, demanded $2.7M to not appeal lost gender discrimination lawsuit, exactly the same amount her husband owes in legal fees for his Ponzi scheme case : conspiracy ... ( http://bit.ly/1S8gi3R )
15:06 mircea_popescu ahahaha good one.
15:06 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo qntra ?
15:07 BingoBoingo TheNewDeal: You want a first qntra scoop? There's reddit drama!
15:07 mircea_popescu a large piece about what a piece of human refuse pao is, and what a huge turd everything ycombinator touches turns out, and specifically about what a failed human being altgman is and what a morally repugnant schmoe graham is for allowing the charade to continue
15:07 mircea_popescu would kinda hit the spot.
15:08 mircea_popescu people kinda need to hear about all this filth.
15:08 mircea_popescu lest they end up believing "professional" is something other than "toilet clogged with nail polish on"
15:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00036801 = 2.0241 BTC [+]
15:15 kakobrekla jurov https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=St98rOLZlEs
15:15 assbot The Wire - English Motherfucker - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1GADOVm )
15:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17000 @ 0.00036637 = 6.2283 BTC [-] {3}
15:16 jurov ?
15:17 kakobrekla nvm
15:20 TheNewDeal Think I'm going to have a heater here. Might take a month or so
15:25 BingoBoingo TheNewDeal: Nah, gotta work on that speed
15:35 TheNewDeal qualitay is the game
15:35 TheNewDeal Learned that as a Green Belt(tm) ;)
15:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26400 @ 0.00037417 = 9.8781 BTC [+]
15:43 BingoBoingo TheNewDeal: Sure
15:44 TheNewDeal Not indicating yours are low quality, just want to find my own niche
15:52 BingoBoingo Well there's seriously the reddit thing if you want low hanging fruit.
16:00 mircea_popescu pretty ripe, height irrespective.
16:02 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
16:02 ascii_field mats, anybody remotely else: does anybody on the planet sell a logic analyzer that isn't an utter piece of shit?
16:02 ascii_field for any price ?
16:03 mircea_popescu define ?
16:03 ascii_field 1) 500MHz+ 2) no winblows, on the analyzer OR pc end 3) pisses out capture to pc at channel rate
16:07 jurov usb tv tuner not suitable?
16:07 jurov http://sdr.osmocom.org/trac/wiki/rtl-sdr
16:07 assbot rtl-sdr – OsmoSDR ... ( http://bit.ly/1cOoyGm )
16:07 thestringpuller how is Voorhees operating a business in new york when he defected and moved to panama to avoid US taxes?
16:08 jurov thestringpuller: very ethically
16:08 ascii_field thus far i can't even find a supplier who will guarantee two out of these three
16:08 ascii_field (#2 is not negotiable, the thing feeds into an automated system)
16:08 * ascii_field pronounces curse on the lying pieces of shit who built the chinese instrument he is presently attempting to use
16:08 ascii_field everything they make is an electronic equivalent of 'gutter oil.' EVERYTHING.
16:08 ascii_field jurov: not logic analyzer!!!
16:09 mircea_popescu ascii_field something like Saleae Pro 8 Logic ?
16:09 jurov anything that takes samples at requested rates can be repurposed to logical analyzer. or, educate me.
16:09 ascii_field mircea_popescu: it's a turd
16:09 mircea_popescu nevertheless it is 5msamples and iirc os ?
16:09 ascii_field jurov: needs not only an input buffer that lets you define the 'high' and 'low' voltage, but a gigantic sram buffer for the bits
16:10 ascii_field and a very fast connection (pci, or usb3 at the minimal) to pc
16:10 ascii_field otherwise you only get fraction of a second 'blast'
16:10 ascii_field mircea_popescu: we considered salae thing. vastly underpowered, and (last checked) requires use of their app
16:11 mircea_popescu i don't really recall how that was left. hazy memory at best.
16:11 jurov that yes... if you insist on capturing long sequences at >500MHz at such constraints... God help you.
16:11 ascii_field jurov: i'd be satisfied if the boxes which claimed 100, actually did anything near.
16:12 jurov what if you buy 100 of these dongles and instruct them to fire sequentially?
16:12 ascii_field jurov: that is PRECISELY why the chinese unit sucks
16:12 ascii_field that's what it does.
16:12 ascii_field trick is that the phases -never- line up.
16:12 mircea_popescu ahh
16:12 jurov lolk
16:12 ascii_field 1024 chickens
16:12 ascii_field cannot equal the ox.
16:13 mircea_popescu the phases will never line up for stuff to do with planck's constant
16:13 ascii_field mircea_popescu: more elementarily, for stuff to do with chineseness
16:13 ascii_field we are working well below ultimate physical limits here
16:14 mats ascii_field: for generic high speed stuff, get a Rigol oscope and write your own tools?
16:14 mircea_popescu i am pretty sure you won't find a unit with 8 gb ddram which reads at 500mhz and stores 16 seconds for you.
16:14 ascii_field mats: that's what i have!!!!
16:14 ascii_field it's a fucking turx
16:15 ascii_field turd
16:15 mats bummer
16:16 ascii_field 500mhz/1chan/16sec ~= 1000 MByte.
16:16 mircea_popescu ascii_field how about connecting it straight to the cpu ?
16:16 ascii_field input would have to be processed in 1 cycle
16:16 ascii_field then you have idiocies like interrupts, dram wait states...
16:16 mircea_popescu hm
16:17 trinque something keeps knocking that guy offline
16:17 mircea_popescu but you don't really care WHICH seconds you capture, as long as you capture some ?
16:17 ascii_field no
16:17 mircea_popescu just write a driver for it as if it were i dunno, an ethernet
16:17 ascii_field gotta capture a particular span of time
16:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38600 @ 0.0003647 = 14.0774 BTC [-] {2}
16:17 ascii_field again, there can be no variation in the latency of the capture
16:17 trinque deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/1FD6NBK.txt
16:17 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1B65rmY )
16:17 deedbot- accepted: 1
16:17 mircea_popescu what are you trying to do ?
16:17 ascii_field the reason i even tell this story is that i sorta realized that logic analyzers don't actually exist
16:18 ascii_field and that the instruments sold under this label are apparently a cheap fraud
16:18 mircea_popescu seem some pretty heavy constraints
16:18 mats here we go again
16:18 jurov trinque this is wiki material
16:19 trinque I dun haz an account
16:19 trinque jurov: that's for mod6 who is writing up something more fleshed out
16:20 jurov still nice to have, ask kakobrekla for acct
16:20 ascii_field looked at how logic analyzer is typically built, and was immediately struck by the idiocy of it using synchronous logic
16:20 ascii_field i.e. sampling at fixed frequency
16:20 danielpbarron http://gfy.com/20496100-post1.html >> I am selling my account on Agora as well as all my inventory. I simply don't have the time to be packing up orders and running out to the post office a couple times a week. I will also reveal my sources for all these items. I have almost 1000 transactions on there and have a feedback rating of 4.68 out of 5.
16:20 assbot GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum - View Single Post - For Sale Make Big Money on the Darkweb. I Am Selling My Elite Vendor Account + Inventory! ... ( http://bit.ly/1cOq3V7 )
16:21 ascii_field i fail to see any reason why it isn't instead a series of registers clocked asynchronously by the inputs, causing a single time-stamp reg to be shifted out the arse end upon any transition
16:21 mircea_popescu danielpbarron so you wanna buy it ?
16:21 danielpbarron buy what? this dude's agora account? no
16:22 mircea_popescu ascii_field hm.
16:22 ascii_field yes, engineers say 'we hate clock domain transitions.' well, motherfuckers can dig for uranium in butugychag until they learn to ~like~
16:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28903 @ 0.0003723 = 10.7606 BTC [+] {2}
16:23 mircea_popescu have a pic of a suspender bra instead. http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ma98asTIHd1r6ppbno1_1280.jpg
16:23 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1B65RtB )
16:23 ascii_field l0l
16:29 mats http://www.msreverseengineering.com/blog/2015/6/9/x86-trivia-for-nerds
16:29 assbot Trivia Questions for X86 Nerds — Möbius Strip Reverse Engineering ... ( http://bit.ly/1B66iEn )
16:32 * ascii_field was expecting a '#26: if you can answer all of these, your life is a waste. eat your Luger.'
16:33 BingoBoingo !up ascii_field
16:34 nubbins` danielpbarron re: account sale lel
16:38 mats heh
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16:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59650 @ 0.00037013 = 22.0783 BTC [-] {3}
16:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43600 @ 0.00035513 = 15.4837 BTC [-]
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17:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42200 @ 0.00035945 = 15.1688 BTC [+] {2}
17:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.BBET] [PAID] 0.25362132 BTC to 5`000`000 shares, 5 satoshi per share
17:29 mircea_popescu deedbot- http://dpaste.com/226HVEM.txt
17:29 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1I7u53x )
17:29 deedbot- accepted: 1
17:31 mircea_popescu deedbot- http://dpaste.com/109VEQM.txt
17:31 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1e6IoOI )
17:31 deedbot- accepted: 1
17:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] [PAID] 77.96824298 BTC to 500`000`000 shares, 15 satoshi per share
17:42 shinohai 15 sats per share o my https://i.imgur.com/ZNMF05U.jpg
17:42 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1e6JvxG )
17:47 trinque that time I clicked a shinohai link in public
17:47 trinque no regrets
17:48 shinohai #yolo
17:48 shinohai If I could figure out how to marry my love of porn to btc I might make something
17:59 mircea_popescu nice girl.
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18:24 jurov shinohai perhaps you can make 3d models for eulora?
18:35 mircea_popescu btw, anyone has noticed yet the girls have no underwear and if you fiddle the camera there's an anus shot ?
18:35 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
18:36 ascii_field http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/06/01/blockchain_app_shows_how_not_to_code << did we do this lul ?
18:36 assbot Android Bitcoin wallet Blockchain was briefly borked • The Register ... ( http://bit.ly/1S8QEvR )
18:36 ascii_field ^ not to be confused with the -last- time this happened
18:37 mircea_popescu sort-of
18:38 trinque what the fuck, blockchain was/is using somebody else's API for "random" data?
18:38 mircea_popescu heh
18:38 mircea_popescu you don't understand how the world works trinque m'boy.
18:38 ascii_field again, not to be confused with the time they used defective rng on android proper
18:39 mircea_popescu gottra love all these "A second programming error"
18:39 danielpbarron jurov> http://www.explo.yt/eulora_rec_9.png this camera angle was mircea's idea, eh?
18:39 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1S8RfOb )
18:39 trinque criminals everywhere, man
18:40 mircea_popescu yet blockchain.org is different from daybitrade.com because... oh right, because meni rosenfeld doesn't own the wsj. that's all.
18:40 kakobrekla it was bitdaytrade :)
18:40 mircea_popescu ahaha win
18:40 mircea_popescu kakobrekla a right.
18:40 kakobrekla the famous AA.
18:41 mircea_popescu jurov next you run into me in game remind me to give you a coin for teh pervshot lol
18:42 trinque dude this is rank bullshit
18:42 trinque there's no way they were feeding the http status code into their thing as the random dada
18:42 trinque *data
18:42 kakobrekla intval($result) gets you that prolly
18:43 trinque good god
18:43 trinque it probably does
18:43 trinque who knows, criminal either way
18:48 trinque I find it hard to believe that these guys were doing http by opening a socket if they're lazy and stupid enough to use random.org
18:49 trinque can't think of a http lib that doesn't give you the http request already parsed and parceled
18:49 trinque *response
18:52 jurov wonder why no one is using phone camera as source of randomness. you can't recreate the shot no matter how you try
18:53 BingoBoingo especially if phone camera picture is taken in memory palace
18:53 jurov !b 2
18:53 assbot Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/29700DS.txt )
18:53 trinque jurov: pic ends up automatically uploaded to g+/fb/whatever
18:53 trinque derpy user cries that the world is hard and where's his mother
18:54 jurov no, barcode readers can use camera without pic being uploaded wherever
18:54 trinque ah you're right
18:55 BingoBoingo Seriously though what was that question yesterday about memory palace standing. A quality memory palace's geometry should be so readily describable.
18:55 BingoBoingo It should really be a stretch to say memory palace's configuration has geometry.
18:56 BingoBoingo In twatter news Costolo is out, Dorsey is back in
18:58 BingoBoingo Can't make it easy to have the entire memory palace plucked out of the brian in one go
19:05 jurov wait and how it depends on gemetry?
19:05 jurov *geometry
19:06 BingoBoingo jurov: Simple geometries are easy to read, this is why the weak and vulnerable make headgear out of tinfoil. To truly build a quality memory palace which resists attack one must channel their inner dank and vexual
19:06 mircea_popescu who's costolo ?
19:06 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: The current twatter CEO
19:06 mircea_popescu aok
19:07 BingoBoingo Dorsey was one of the founders who also did the Derpy Square thing
19:07 jurov you mean by reading brainwaves?
19:07 BingoBoingo jurov: Or however it is to be done.
19:07 trinque >channel their inner dank and vexual
19:07 mircea_popescu ya
19:07 trinque lol
19:08 kakobrekla even i dont get that and i have been here the longest
19:08 BingoBoingo Before accessible crypto people kept their secrets by hiding them.
19:09 BingoBoingo Of course this could just be yesterday's vodka I was too sleep to drink them talking
19:10 BingoBoingo Also this exists http://bookofbrodin.wikia.com/wiki/Book_of_Brodin_Wiki
19:10 assbot Book of Brodin Wiki ... ( http://bit.ly/1HwXVTb )
19:11 * mircea_popescu recalls some schmuck used a "supersecret" klingon poem or somesuch
19:11 mircea_popescu because totally, nobody else read the same pulp he did.
19:12 BingoBoingo The last thing a memory palace should resemble is literature of language
19:13 trinque wtf is a memory palace
19:13 trinque https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Method_of_loci << ah
19:13 assbot Method of loci - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1MMTZhc )
19:15 shinohai [nsfw] http://40.media.tumblr.com/e519c4ed50ffa69050141ba100ee25cf/tumblr_njyh5jfQYw1ssvqz2o2_540.jpg
19:15 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1MMUbgt )
19:15 trinque http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/6/11/military-leaders-debate-US-escalation-in-Iraq.html << empire's headed back to die there, I guess
19:15 assbot Military leaders debate US escalation in Iraq | Al Jazeera America ... ( http://bit.ly/1HwYvjO )
19:15 BingoBoingo trinque: Because the first and second times were not enough
19:16 trinque BingoBoingo: we'll unite the middle east (against us) yet
19:17 BingoBoingo I dunno, if hitler couldn't unite all of Isaac's brothers I doubt Obola can unite all of Esau's
19:24 scoopbot_revived Butterfield 8 http://trilema.com/2015/butterfield-8/
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20:14 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-06-2015#1161586 >>>>>>>> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-06-2015#1159373
20:14 assbot Logged on 11-06-2015 23:11:47; *: mircea_popescu recalls some schmuck used a "supersecret" klingon poem or somesuch
20:14 assbot Logged on 10-06-2015 17:01:22; ascii_field: tests mental nimbleness, originality, memory, everything which makes someone worthy contender
20:17 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-06-2015#1161557 << if you're doing safety-critical crypto on a pNohe, you've already lost
20:17 assbot Logged on 11-06-2015 22:52:09; jurov: wonder why no one is using phone camera as source of randomness. you can't recreate the shot no matter how you try
20:20 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-06-2015#1161565 << this is probably when i confess that i remember things without doing any of that
20:20 assbot Logged on 11-06-2015 22:55:03; BingoBoingo: Seriously though what was that question yesterday about memory palace standing. A quality memory palace's geometry should be so readily describable.
20:20 asciilifeform so it's possible!
20:20 asciilifeform but good method for stretching your limits, wherever they happen to be
20:21 asciilifeform (read about famous 'mnemonists.' they all used some variation on this algo.)
20:21 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: But what about for things you would rather not be able to remember under duress?
20:21 asciilifeform but, as ought to be clear, if your 'memory palace' is not a palace but a kolhoz full of 1,001 schmucks, don't brainwallet...
20:22 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: cyanide
20:22 BingoBoingo Nah, cyanide means that if you make it through you can't see them burn
20:22 asciilifeform (or the precious last bullet (tm) )
20:23 asciilifeform 'the precious last bullet, it's not my invention; the ancestors teach us, with centuries of war...' (from ru song re: afghan. translation mine.)
20:30 BingoBoingo I mean, what's the point of smoking cigarettes if not to transform into an unstopable ragemonster when derprived of nicotine and the beautiful monoamine oxidase inhibitors in tobacco?
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21:07 mike_c this eulorum wiki is slow as shit. who the hell is running this thing.
21:20 mike_c Eulora travelers, here's a map: http://www.eulorum.org/Map
21:20 assbot Map - Eulorum ... ( http://bit.ly/1HxeQ84 )
21:21 mike_c Dozens upon dozens of cartographers died to make it..
21:21 mircea_popescu mike_c ahaha
21:21 mircea_popescu wait.
21:21 mircea_popescu didn't YOU host it ?
21:21 mike_c yes
21:21 mircea_popescu lmao
21:21 mircea_popescu got me.
21:22 ben_vulpes so help me out here
21:22 ben_vulpes http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/cto/5067940938.html vs http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/5050595367.html
21:22 assbot Classic 1982 Corvette ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hxf13c )
21:22 assbot 1989 Corvette ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hxf2UN )
21:22 ben_vulpes clean title, correct vintage, but automatic VS rebuilt title, not really the perfect vintage, and manual
21:23 mircea_popescu you buying a car ?
21:23 ben_vulpes more like a fashion accessory
21:24 ben_vulpes but maybe
21:26 mircea_popescu "President Barack Obama’s plan to send an additional 450 to 500 soldiers"
21:26 mircea_popescu bwahahahaa
21:26 mircea_popescu what is this, a bar mitzvah ?
21:27 ben_vulpes no they're /thooper/ tholdierth
21:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 15 @ 0.197718 = 2.9658 BTC [-]
21:28 mircea_popescu from the country of africa ?
21:28 mircea_popescu funny how the libertards were all over nucular but don't seem to hardly notice at all their special needs law professor has no fucking idea which side the sun comes out.
21:30 BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: Clean title and vintage
21:30 ben_vulpes BingoBoingo: suggesting i hold out, then?
21:30 ben_vulpes ah nm
21:30 BingoBoingo Just have to swap in a tranny of correct vintage
21:31 ben_vulpes but what about the tranny?
21:31 BingoBoingo But... That might cost more than the car's $6000 unless you wait for one to miracle onto criagslist
21:32 mircea_popescu actually automatic's probably in much better condition
21:32 mircea_popescu seeing how no hothead wouldever buy it
21:32 BingoBoingo ^
21:33 ben_vulpes such wisdom
21:33 BingoBoingo Also sporty car with a sporty automatic tranny isn't bad.
21:33 BingoBoingo Especially if you ever encounter the dreaded gauntlet of red lights in it
21:34 ben_vulpes i have all the light sequences in this town timed by memory
21:34 BingoBoingo Also less wear items in the auto tranny
21:34 BingoBoingo All it takes is one intern to fuck up you lights and they will never go back
21:35 BingoBoingo <assbot> [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.0052001 = 0.0416 BTC [-] << Incredilol
21:38 asciilifeform ben_vulpes is into vintage cars ?!
21:40 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: the linked ones seem too cheap to be true
21:40 asciilifeform betcha the inside is rusted solid
21:40 ben_vulpes pessimist
21:40 asciilifeform 'don't buy a car which costs less than your computer' (tm)
21:40 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> ben_vulpes: the linked ones seem too cheap to be true << Not really probably just accumulated defered maintenance to take it up to market value is much
21:41 ben_vulpes it's not really a rare model, guise
21:41 BingoBoingo The 60's one prolly still has nylon belted tyres
21:41 mircea_popescu asciilifeform it was "Don't buy a computer that costs less than your woman"
21:41 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: these remind me of an ancient car i've always wanted to drive, 'ford probe'
21:41 asciilifeform only ever seen one.
21:41 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: How much do you want to drive one. There's a few around this region.
21:42 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: not enough
21:42 * BingoBoingo holds as rare dreamcar pontiac fiero
21:42 asciilifeform odd, 'google images' does not find the bizarre digital led (1980s!) dashboard the specimen he was shown as a boy had
21:43 asciilifeform http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/156563/original/p1010008.jpg << ahahaha there it is.
21:43 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1cOY6fJ )
21:43 asciilifeform it's like driving a 'pc xt' !
21:43 asciilifeform with cga.
21:43 BingoBoingo lol
21:44 asciilifeform http://i56.tinypic.com/mj04uc.jpg
21:44 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1cOYcEf )
21:44 asciilifeform (similar)
21:44 BingoBoingo Every uncool yet drivable used car tends to find its way to the Middle West for Hospice care
21:46 * BingoBoingo remembers his first car, The Grand Am of Justice which in his last year of ownership he discovered was Hurricane Katrina salvage
21:47 trinque heh I almost got a ford probe as my first car
21:47 asciilifeform aaaand...
21:47 asciilifeform in other news,
21:47 asciilifeform http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/8F523CFD93D4A4AE7AA6C0810A210AC7C430DA2C10D53713F23DC09B4B9124A1
21:47 assbot Welcome | Phuctor ... ( http://bit.ly/1HxipuU )
21:47 BingoBoingo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Probe#Remaining_registered_1993.E2.80.931997_Probes_on_the_road_as_of_July_2011
21:47 assbot Ford Probe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1HxipLr )
21:47 trinque https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1435/5149860522_aa3e8b03f2_o.jpg << got that guy instead
21:47 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hxisaj )
21:47 * asciilifeform gotta do something about schmucks hitting 'retest key' and 'unphuctoring' (temporarily)
21:47 trinque asciilifeform: is that a second pirate party key?
21:48 asciilifeform appears to be
21:48 trinque fascinating.
21:48 * BingoBoingo though the Matt guy was showing up quite a bit
21:48 asciilifeform there is a great many of them in 'magic 98' list
21:48 asciilifeform 100% of which will eventually appear in http://nosuchlabs.com/phuctored
21:48 assbot Welcome | Phuctor ... ( http://bit.ly/1HxiBdD )
21:49 BingoBoingo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Probe#Remaining_registered_1993.E2.80.931997_Probes_on_the_road_as_of_July_2011 << Oh, there's prolly more Probes left than Pogos
21:49 assbot Ford Probe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1HxiBuf )
21:49 * asciilifeform wouldn't actually want to putter around in this museum piece daily
21:50 * asciilifeform is not currently equipped for serious engine work
21:51 BingoBoingo Museum pieces make the best daily drivers, and Probe was engineered by 80's Japs so prolly durable
21:52 * BingoBoingo says as the guy who stops his Saturn at gas stations to make sure the plastic is still attached
21:56 trinque I've taken to calling my check-engine light the "Is it a Volkswagen?" light
22:03 BingoBoingo trinque: I actually have very few problems with that
22:06 BingoBoingo I actually have far more problems with the exterior of the car not wanting to stay together than anything mechanically wrong
22:07 trinque car's just complaining; it runs fine
22:08 trinque has something to do with emissions I think
22:08 BingoBoingo Yeah
22:08 BingoBoingo Thank the one who cuckolds clitler for that
~ 19 minutes ~
22:27 trinque http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?c114:1:./temp/~c114oLaeR2:e873358: << heh DoD heard me rambling about the weapons being "turned inward"
22:27 assbot Bill Text - 114th Congress - THOMAS (Library of Congress) ... ( http://bit.ly/1KJ7XBI )
22:27 trinque IN GENERAL- The Secretary of Defense shall complete an evaluation of the cyber vulnerabilities of each major weapon system of the Department of Defense by not later than December 31, 2019.
22:28 trinque and ftr I'm still not convinced they're all safe
22:29 asciilifeform what's 'safe' ?
22:29 trinque I'm sure the Iranians thought their centrifuges were totally disconnected from the internet and therefore safe too
22:29 trinque asciilifeform: "can the nukes be haxed" thread
22:31 asciilifeform trinque: recall maj. harold l. hering ?
22:32 asciilifeform http://www.slate.com/articles/life/the_spectator/2011/02/an_unsung_hero_of_the_nuclear_age.html << as described here.
22:32 assbot Nuclear weapons: How Cold War major Harold Hering asked a forbidden question that cost him his career. ... ( http://bit.ly/1KJ8iEw )
22:32 trinque no, reading
22:32 trinque thought it might've been some of the more recently let-go members of the nuke command
22:32 trinque *one
22:32 asciilifeform nah
22:32 asciilifeform long ago.
22:33 asciilifeform was sacked from u.s. air force for asking 'how can i know whether order to launch is coming from a sane man'
22:33 trinque "had become a long-haul trucker" << brutal
22:36 trinque does not surprise me that people were worried about orders from nixon, lol!
22:41 danielpbarron !up julmac
22:41 trinque asciilifeform: right so this whole "launch codes" thing is communication to the... lol... "missileer"
22:42 trinque was talking with ben_vulpes yesterday about how this is likely a matter of vulnerability to attacks against the communications of mil, not necessarily the hardware
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23:02 asciilifeform trinque: see also, possibly relevant, my old article re: prehistoric crypto in usg: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1323
23:02 assbot Loper OS » A Country of Which Nothing is Known but the Name. ... ( http://bit.ly/1DEFVkM )
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