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00:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16450 @ 0.00042177 = 6.9381 BTC [+]
00:04 asciilifeform decimation: schneier is a worrisome case because he was - very clearly - a genuine fighter against usg who later ended up on enemy side.
00:04 asciilifeform and no one seems to know precisely how/why
00:04 asciilifeform or even approximately when.
00:04 decimation maybe his fight was always at least partially a show
00:05 asciilifeform one hell of a show.
00:05 decimation now as an old man, he can't sustain it
00:09 asciilifeform 'http://www.twitter.com/Tweet_a_bad_word_about_an_american_corporation_and_most_of_your_tweets_get_hidden_from_view' << from server logs
00:10 decimation duh, first rule of marketing club is don't talk about marketing club
00:13 decimation asciilifeform: http://ams.org/notices/200708/tx070800972p.pdf
00:13 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1JUx57Q )
00:13 decimation it's a good paper about the pointlessness of provability in crypto
00:13 asciilifeform ^ classic
00:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9350 @ 0.00042177 = 3.9435 BTC [+]
00:13 asciilifeform and iirc i linked it here.
00:13 decimation aye, I think so too
00:14 asciilifeform students of elliptic curve crypto should find herr koblitz familiar name
00:14 decimation "Once I heard a speaker from NSA complain about university researchers who are cavalier about proposing untested cryptosystems. He pointed out that in the real world if your cryptography fails, you lose a million dollars or your secret agent gets killed. In academia, if you write about a cryptosystem and then a few months later find a way to break it, you've got two new papers to add to your résumé!"
00:15 decimation beware the academics baring 'ideas'
00:15 asciilifeform decimation: yet another illustration of 'q: how do you know usg stooge is lying? a: his lips are moving'
00:16 asciilifeform in the 'real world', 'your cryptography fails' sometimes leads to fat bribes in the form of business-as-usual from usg masters.
00:16 asciilifeform all you gotta do is be the right usg catamite.
00:17 asciilifeform !up referredbyloper
00:18 decimation in one of his papers koblitz complains that the only thing 'cryptographers' care about is finding nifty new one-way functions
00:18 asciilifeform it would be interesting to witness a post-purse cryptographic academia community
00:18 decimation instead of trying to model and criticize anything resembling real-world crypto
00:18 asciilifeform *purge
00:19 asciilifeform picture if the usg cocksuckers were discovered and removed.
00:19 asciilifeform what, if anything, would remain ?
00:21 decimation "Apparently the availability of money from NSA had had a corrupting effect on some mathemati- cians, who started to think in nationalistic and jingoistic terms so that they could write their proposal in a way that they thought would appeal to NSA."
00:21 asciilifeform if only only this.
00:21 decimation ironically, if the NSA heckler is correct about the real-world pressure, such jingoism would be a disqualifier
00:22 decimation "we thought our museum-fremen ways would impress you"
00:24 asciilifeform i don't presently believe that nsa hired cryptographers for any purpose other than to take them out of circulation.
00:24 asciilifeform (whatever talent they use in-house, they grow there, from larva.)
00:24 decimation well, the job of usg is to spend money
00:25 decimation just because they have in-house talent wouldn't exclude the possibility of pissing money away on other shit too
00:26 asciilifeform decimation: the overall pattern is that they piss to drown, rather than nurture
00:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20100 @ 0.00042673 = 8.5773 BTC [+]
00:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38983 @ 0.00042393 = 16.5261 BTC [-] {2}
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01:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20104 @ 0.00042763 = 8.5971 BTC [+]
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01:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53000 @ 0.00043125 = 22.8563 BTC [-] {2}
01:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00043335 = 1.4301 BTC [+]
01:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33601 @ 0.00043348 = 14.5654 BTC [+] {2}
01:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80908 @ 0.00043396 = 35.1108 BTC [+] {2}
01:40 punkman up it goes
01:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 138000 @ 0.0004076 = 56.2488 BTC [-] {3}
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02:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00040411 = 2.263 BTC [-]
02:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20000 @ 0.00041981 = 8.3962 BTC [+]
02:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28892 @ 0.00040275 = 11.6363 BTC [-]
02:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31000 @ 0.00040275 = 12.4853 BTC [-]
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03:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15444 @ 0.00042803 = 6.6105 BTC [+]
03:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16259 @ 0.00043426 = 7.0606 BTC [+]
03:43 ben_vulpes https://github.com/openssl/openssl/issues/57 << the bitrot continues
03:43 assbot Documentation fixes for openssl-1.0.1g (Ubuntu 14.04) · Issue #57 · openssl/openssl · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1IhY3C0 )
03:44 ben_vulpes ;;later tell shinohai what platform did you end up compiling bitcoind on?
03:44 gribble The operation succeeded.
03:54 cazalla good evening
03:59 ben_vulpes ey caz
04:07 cazalla silence dance party still ravin'?
04:07 ben_vulpes nah, lights on the tennis court turn out at ten
04:08 ben_vulpes everyone goes home politely but the vagrants
04:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13850 @ 0.00043467 = 6.0202 BTC [+] {2}
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05:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30069 @ 0.00042632 = 12.819 BTC [-] {3}
05:35 BingoBoingo !t m s.mpoe
05:35 assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00039511 / 0.00041611 / 0.00043534 (5419913 shares, 2,255.31 BTC), 7D: 0.00033981 / 0.00038469 / 0.00043534 (18895378 shares, 7,268.90 BTC), 30D: 0.00024411 / 0.00032646 / 0.00043534 (117114948 shares, 38,234.36 BTC)
05:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11437 @ 0.00042129 = 4.8183 BTC [-]
05:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29100 @ 0.00041703 = 12.1356 BTC [-]
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06:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.0004184 = 3.933 BTC [-]
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06:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63350 @ 0.00040561 = 25.6954 BTC [-] {2}
06:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21750 @ 0.00041843 = 9.1009 BTC [+] {2}
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07:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3875 @ 0.00041845 = 1.6215 BTC [+]
08:01 jurov http://www.boredpanda.com/1970s-mens-fashion-ads/ lol YES
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08:01 assbot 1970s Men’s Fashion Ads You Won’t Be Able To Unsee | Bored Panda ... ( http://bit.ly/1HOuV9E )
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08:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00041074 = 3.5324 BTC [-]
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09:04 jurov ;;ticker
09:04 gribble Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 239.85, Best ask: 240.2, Bid-ask spread: 0.35000, Last trade: 239.85, 24 hour volume: 22945.68371812, 24 hour low: 234.56, 24 hour high: 241.99, 24 hour vwap: None
09:08 davout ;;ticker --currency EUR
09:08 gribble Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
09:08 davout blergh
09:09 jurov ;;ticker --currency EUR --market bitcoincentral
09:09 gribble Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR ticker | Best bid: 209.51, Best ask: 213.9, Bid-ask spread: 4.39000, Last trade: 213.9, 24 hour volume: 121.68340784, 24 hour low: 206.0, 24 hour high: 214.0, 24 hour vwap: 209.82578069
09:11 jurov gribs forgot how to convert
09:11 jurov ;;ticker --currency copper
09:11 gribble Error: 'copper' is not a valid currency code.
09:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56450 @ 0.00041192 = 23.2529 BTC [+] {2}
09:13 jurov ;;ticker --currency "rickety reeds"
09:13 gribble Error: 'rickety reeds' is not a valid currency code.
09:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32400 @ 0.00043163 = 13.9848 BTC [+] {3}
09:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50300 @ 0.0004331 = 21.7849 BTC [+] {3}
09:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19050 @ 0.00043424 = 8.2723 BTC [+] {2}
09:29 scoopbot_revived X.EUR June 16th statement http://fr.anco.is/2015/x-eur-june-16th-statement/
09:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22400 @ 0.00041475 = 9.2904 BTC [-]
09:38 jurov https://blockchain.info/address/1CoinBr662GWdiqVz8mXJUnYjWZbBchKAb lol the "public note" (and no, CoinBr will not double your coins)
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09:38 assbot Bitcoin Address 1CoinBr662GWdiqVz8mXJUnYjWZbBchKAb ... ( http://bit.ly/1JVg8dv )
09:45 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1164751 << i think you broadly miss the point there. it doesn't matter what it ACTUALLY asks. what matters is that once you sign and serve it, they will pretend it had asked whatever it is they wish it were the case it had asked at any later point, which is how "it doesn't ask about fucktoys" turned into "paetreus broke the law by visiting a local socialite!11". so in this
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09:45 assbot Logged on 16-06-2015 01:38:53; assbot: Logged on 15-06-2015 21:22:20; asciilifeform: speaking of 'sf-86' form, does anyone else consider such things a peculiar anachronism? it isn't as if usg did not already have 100% of everything in that thing in some db or other
09:45 mircea_popescu , the guy's action to disclose was "reasonable", and your approach only works if you're there as an envoy of the most serene republic or the republic of china, and they are actually afraid that if they misbehave their children are going to be used as ingredients in someone's supper.
09:46 mircea_popescu ie, exactly as you point out, "the devil is not interested in lies, but in liars". so it is. with the caveat that it is not interested in THE TRUTH of anyone's being a liar, but in the useful political lie of anyone having been a liar.
09:47 mircea_popescu so in this sense "cuomo might be corrupt". they... they just haven't figured it out yet lolz.
09:48 mircea_popescu obama also "might" be corrupt. nixon "actually was" corrupt. the difference between these is left as an exercise, but not to the reader of history. it's strictly an exercise to the writer of history.
09:51 mircea_popescu which is, incidentally, why any discussion with the devil may only logically start with a full and unwavering declaration from the devil that it is talking to ~the incorruptible~. ie, outside of its jurisdiction, they whose "corruptness" may not be judged by it.
09:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24400 @ 0.00040861 = 9.9701 BTC [-]
09:58 pete_dushenski https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=49417.msg11627605#msg11627605
09:58 assbot [CLOSING JUNE 30] BTC Guild - Pays TxFees+NMC, Stratum, VarDiff, Private Servers ... ( http://bit.ly/1IHe6My )
09:59 mircea_popescu hahaha.
09:59 pete_dushenski ^mining pool takes itself down because of 'bitlisence'
09:59 mircea_popescu anyone ~else~ inclined to listen to gavin, take notice
09:59 mircea_popescu that shit was top 2 not even A YEAR AGO.
09:59 pete_dushenski btc guild listened to gavin ?
09:59 pete_dushenski musta missed that
10:00 mircea_popescu the original mike hearn induced hard fork.
10:00 pete_dushenski aha them.
10:00 mircea_popescu yes, them.
10:01 pete_dushenski well good riddance to another scab.
10:01 mircea_popescu aye
10:01 mircea_popescu had fallen into irrelevancy for a while now anyway.
10:02 pete_dushenski looks like they're down to only 3% of hashrate
10:02 mircea_popescu mhm
10:02 pete_dushenski at most
10:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23700 @ 0.00041361 = 9.8026 BTC [+]
10:02 mircea_popescu the thing the "community" prefers to ignore is that its continued existence is fully predicated on it being made 80% of people who are not older than six months and don't intend to be.
10:03 mircea_popescu just like the "community" of high voltage wire lickers, or "transsexuals" or what have you may only exist for as long as it's entirely made of either fresh idiots or the trolls that bait them
10:03 pete_dushenski sucks when they grow up eh.
10:04 pete_dushenski really takes a dent out of their "popular support"
10:04 mircea_popescu how many people came here with a "omg i can't believe how stupid i was" sorta thing.
10:04 pete_dushenski i still get comments on contravex saying exactly that.
10:04 pete_dushenski and i expect this will continue
10:04 mircea_popescu mhm
10:04 mircea_popescu prolly next year too.
10:05 pete_dushenski speaking of recent commenters, i just had a guy drop a line on buying russian corporate bonds through an etf on lse
10:06 pete_dushenski http://www.contravex.com/2014/12/22/an-exercise-in-buying-17-russian-bonds/#comment-20614
10:06 assbot An exercise in buying 17% Russian bonds | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1IHf9fo )
10:06 BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: Want to write up BTCGuild? I'm working on another social media failure story
10:06 pete_dushenski not quite as juicy as the government bonds, but exposure to russian corporate bonds looks decently lucrative compared to western offerings
10:06 pete_dushenski BingoBoingo: sure thing.
10:07 mircea_popescu pete_dushenski hard to price the sovereign risk for russia tho
10:08 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: well, not like pricing sovereign risk for usa is easy
10:09 pete_dushenski in the short-term
10:09 pete_dushenski mid- to long-term, sure, 100% chance of investment going to 0
10:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11454 @ 0.00041361 = 4.7375 BTC [+]
10:10 mats i hear pogs are blowing up
10:10 mircea_popescu who even knows.
10:10 mircea_popescu i wanna see whathappens once putin retires.
10:10 TheNewDeal methinks gribble has been drinking today
10:10 pete_dushenski he's probably got a decade yet
10:10 TheNewDeal ;;bc,stats
10:11 gribble Current Blocks: 361193 | Current Difficulty: 4.969238635489384E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 362879 | Next Difficulty In: 1686 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 6 days, 1 hour, 40 minutes, and 27 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
10:11 mircea_popescu pete_dushenski entirely up to him i would think, but yeah.
10:11 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: as it's entirely up to you how long you feel like steering this ship. except you're, what, half putin's age.
10:13 pete_dushenski hm. just checked, putin is 62, so not quite half but close enough
10:13 mircea_popescu haha i think he's mebbe a tad more secure
10:14 pete_dushenski give it time, man !
10:14 mircea_popescu lol
10:14 pete_dushenski what is this, a race ?
10:14 pete_dushenski he'll beat you to the grave, fear not.
10:14 mircea_popescu that is likely.
10:15 pete_dushenski so will merkel, so will jinping.
10:16 mircea_popescu the chinese have been workingon animmortality pill for 3`000 years
10:16 mircea_popescu they might get it
10:16 mircea_popescu bbs.
10:17 * pete_dushenski goes to tap in the mines for qntra
10:18 decimation pete_dushenski: mid- to long-term, sure, 100% chance of investment going to 0 < not so, usg will *always* repay usd debt
10:18 pete_dushenski and i'll always have a giant boner for lindsay lohan
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10:18 pete_dushenski until she's not 16 anymore
10:18 decimation the question is just how much usd it needs to magic into existence
10:19 pete_dushenski until.... time
10:19 decimation now, usg paying off gold debt....
10:19 decimation the man who can print money is not a credit risk, he's a risk for something else
10:20 pete_dushenski the man who can print money is perfectly capable of being a credit risk
10:20 pete_dushenski you wanna lend money to mr. monopoly ?
10:21 decimation are you supposing that in the crux he won't print?
10:21 pete_dushenski you really think he can make enough money being a slumlord on James Street ?
10:21 decimation well, his own scrip, sure
10:22 pete_dushenski decimation: i'm supposing he will print 'in the crux' and that no one will take him anymore seriously than the streetwalker wearing 15 hats stacked one on top of the other
10:22 decimation aye, well at that point anything denominated in usd is a risk
10:22 pete_dushenski you see they both have a lottery ticket that they're still waiting to hear back from the corporate board on
10:23 pete_dushenski the board had to reorganise and now everything's up in the air
10:23 pete_dushenski but dun worry because the money is coming
10:23 decimation the question of how long the dollar can 'levitate' as the world's reserve is an interesting one
10:23 decimation and the most obvious 'sovereign risk' for usg
10:24 pete_dushenski how long is kinda interesting in the sense of "how much time does that give us to stockpile useable computing hardware"
10:24 pete_dushenski other than that...
10:25 pete_dushenski the writing's on the wall and people can't ignore it indefinitely
10:25 decimation agreed
10:25 TheNewDeal pete_dushenski what's wrong with me wearing 15 hats?
10:26 pete_dushenski TheNewDeal: nothing if you want to be a street urchin.
10:26 TheNewDeal the finest there is!
10:26 pete_dushenski and do some modeling for 70's men's magazines
10:27 TheNewDeal like so http://c2.thejournal.ie/media/2012/12/slack-power-350x500.jpg ?
10:27 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1IHVD2n )
10:27 pete_dushenski decimation: if you're financially exposed to benefit from 'the event', as we all are, then it's a matter of how long can we be patient
10:27 decimation yes, true
10:28 decimation could be this year, could be 100 years
10:28 pete_dushenski TheNewDeal: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1164899
10:28 assbot Logged on 16-06-2015 12:01:50; jurov: http://www.boredpanda.com/1970s-mens-fashion-ads/ lol YES
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10:29 pete_dushenski decimation: could be, sure. 100 years ago : franz joseph i, today : merkel, 100 years hence : 4638 c4ca kinda thing
10:32 decimation one obvious 'sword of Damocles' hanging over usg is the enormous dollar debt at very low interest
10:32 decimation if rates creep up to > 10%, usg is gonna have to print to survive
10:33 pete_dushenski if they have to print to survive at 1%, for sure 10% will sting.
10:33 decimation heh exactly
10:33 TheNewDeal I'm suprised usian muggles don't even comprehend this idea
10:33 pete_dushenski but hey, the pain plan cometh one way or another
10:33 pete_dushenski the band-aid will be ripped off.
10:34 pete_dushenski TheNewDeal: you are ?
10:34 TheNewDeal yes
10:34 pete_dushenski why ?
10:34 decimation the best I can tell usian muggles exhibit 'learned helplessness' that moldbug writes about
10:34 TheNewDeal because every muggle is basically in debt up to their necks
10:35 TheNewDeal so basically it's something they should comprehend easily
10:35 TheNewDeal except for the making monopoly money via treasuries
10:35 pete_dushenski decimation: and why shouldn't they ? there's clearly no future for them, despite their panglossian pretenses of "first, best, largest ever"
10:35 decimation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learned_helplessness
10:35 assbot Learned helplessness - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1IIovHO )
10:36 decimation "Other experiments were performed with different animals with similar results. In all cases, the strongest predictor of a depressive response was lack of control over the aversive stimulus."
10:36 pete_dushenski TheNewDeal: but if muggles can afford the debt and "everyone else is doing it"... hardly seems like a problem worth the bother
10:36 decimation if you randomly zap an animal long enough, he learns to lay down and be useless, even if he could prevent it with simple actions
10:36 pete_dushenski until, of course, reality smokes them upside the head and gives 'em a spin.
10:39 * decimation off to the mines
10:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52100 @ 0.00042887 = 22.3441 BTC [+]
10:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33700 @ 0.00043051 = 14.5082 BTC [+] {2}
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11:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70004 @ 0.00042953 = 30.0688 BTC [-] {2}
11:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 107666 @ 0.0004352 = 46.8562 BTC [+] {4}
11:04 pete_dushenski heya menahem
11:04 menahem hey pimp slice
11:04 menahem how are ya
11:05 pete_dushenski no complaints man.
11:05 menahem reading this: http://gtf.org/garzik/bitcoin/BIP100-blocksizechangeproposal.pdf
11:05 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1GqFfCs )
11:05 pete_dushenski summary ?
11:05 menahem 1/2 way, but garzik increasing the block size
11:05 menahem in order to help "startups grow"!!1
11:06 pete_dushenski up to 20mb a la usgavin ?
11:07 menahem "3. Simultaneously, add a new floating block size limit, set to 1MB."
11:07 menahem almost done
11:08 menahem just got to Strasbourg and i'm 1/2 asleep from the flight
11:11 pete_dushenski menahem: o hey mr. traveler.
11:12 menahem copped a last minute to Paris and took the train
11:12 pete_dushenski you staying in france ?
11:12 menahem yea, probably take some day trips to Switz and Germany
11:13 pete_dushenski ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://dpaste.com/2MH3VRM.txt << qntsideration
11:13 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1KW8Jey )
11:13 gribble The operation succeeded.
11:13 pete_dushenski menahem: wicked. you gone for a week or two or more ?
11:14 menahem 2 weeks, then off to Ottawa for Canada day celebrations.
11:14 pete_dushenski heh go nationalism !
11:14 menahem ha
11:14 menahem mostly to meet the in-laws :D
11:14 pete_dushenski menahem: check out montreux
11:14 menahem prob the best time to be in Ottawa, though.
11:14 pete_dushenski if you get a chance
11:15 menahem Yea lemme ask my Swiss bidness partner
11:16 menahem he said it's nice. hey, btw, pete_dushenski you're off Formula 1 now ?
11:16 pete_dushenski ayup. bernie has some work to do.
11:17 pete_dushenski fuck these turbo engines, wide tires, and supercomputer aerodynamics
11:19 menahem ha, you had sold me on it when you went to MTL last yr.
11:20 scoopbot_revived BTC Guild: Closing After Choosing Wrong Side of History http://qntra.net/2015/06/btc-guild-closing-after-choosing-wrong-side-of-history/
11:22 menahem pete_dushenski, i gotta roll. i'll be on tomorrow all rested up. cheers all.
11:27 pete_dushenski menahem: later dude.
11:34 pete_dushenski BingoBoingo: when i wrote "ancien fiat regime" it wasn't a typo of "ancient fiat regime"
11:35 BingoBoingo oh
11:35 pete_dushenski la ancien regime is a thing
11:35 BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: Then you gotta make your grammar work
11:35 BingoBoingo acien regime fiat?
11:36 BingoBoingo *ancien regime fiat?
11:36 pete_dushenski lol perhaps so
11:36 pete_dushenski i still like my way but you're the editor :)
11:37 jurov it's meant the bourbon era? i don't get it
11:37 BingoBoingo fixed. One can't simple inject roman words without injecting roman grammar
11:37 pete_dushenski jurov: 'old guard'
11:38 pete_dushenski BingoBoingo: cool.
11:41 davout ;;ticker
11:41 gribble Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 245.19, Best ask: 245.84, Bid-ask spread: 0.65000, Last trade: 245.19, 24 hour volume: 29095.24612131, 24 hour low: 235.19, 24 hour high: 243.94, 24 hour vwap: None
11:41 davout mircea_popescu: ^ 218 EUR/BTC
11:42 pete_dushenski watch out 1000 eur/btc, here we coooome !
11:42 mircea_popescu bwahaha TheNewDeal 's "anti establishment slacks" omaigerd.
11:43 mircea_popescu <decimation> if rates creep up to > 10%, usg is gonna have to print to survive << actually even 1% is unsustainable atm.
11:43 mircea_popescu which is why all this song and dance about recessions, low rates and permanently unelevated plateaus
11:44 mircea_popescu <TheNewDeal> I'm suprised usian muggles don't even comprehend this idea << they don't care one way or another, because they aren't actually invested in the thing. it's a meal ticket. who is going to care whether their meal ticket had a good day at work or a bad day at work ? it's work, it's what it does, fuck it.
11:45 mircea_popescu which is why setbacks in the indies caused commotion in london, but also why utter rape of the us throughout all its engagements since blackpresident and perhaps before don't even raise an eyebrow.
11:45 mircea_popescu who the shit cares ? the "citizens" certainly don't. just as long as the new, improved, electronic and digital food stamps make it on time.
11:48 funkenstein_ !up ascii_field
11:48 funkenstein_ ;;ticker
11:48 gribble Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 247.91, Best ask: 247.98, Bid-ask spread: 0.07000, Last trade: 247.89, 24 hour volume: 29095.24612131, 24 hour low: 235.19, 24 hour high: 243.94, 24 hour vwap: None
11:50 pete_dushenski dollar crashing today.
11:50 pete_dushenski mebbe because donald trump just announced his presidential candidacy.
11:51 pete_dushenski and everyone's worried he's going to use the last few drops of water to greenify another golf course
11:52 funkenstein_ pete_dushenski, nice qntra piece :D
11:52 funkenstein_ trump? serious?
11:52 pete_dushenski funkenstein_: cheers. and yuppers.
11:53 pete_dushenski https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/pornhub-space-program-sexploration#/story
11:53 assbot Pornhub Space Program - SEXPLORATION | Indiegogo ... ( http://bit.ly/1MZA5Qi )
11:53 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=15-06-2015#1164710 << common name.
11:53 assbot Logged on 15-06-2015 20:32:09; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164376 << isn't megan fox that porn cyborg woman ?
11:54 jurov ;;ticker
11:54 gribble Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 251.0, Best ask: 251.84, Bid-ask spread: 0.84000, Last trade: 252.0, 24 hour volume: 32018.7302065, 24 hour low: 235.5, 24 hour high: 247.1, 24 hour vwap: None
11:54 pete_dushenski porn in space looking to raise... $3.4 mn
11:54 danielpbarron http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1164920 << idk i'm getting pretty close to that
11:54 assbot Logged on 16-06-2015 13:38:28; jurov: https://blockchain.info/address/1CoinBr662GWdiqVz8mXJUnYjWZbBchKAb lol the "public note" (and no, CoinBr will not double your coins)
11:54 funkenstein_ space, the final frontier. to boldly go where no chumpatron has gone before
11:55 jurov lolk i forgot to put "instantly"
11:55 pete_dushenski danielpbarron: pretty close to what ?
11:55 danielpbarron doubling coin
11:55 pete_dushenski snap. nice work !
11:56 pete_dushenski at this rate, $3.4 mn for space porn will be 10 btc by tuesday.
11:56 pete_dushenski draw the line to see for yourself !
11:56 TheNewDeal indubitably
11:57 * pete_dushenski leaves this as an exercise for the reader
11:58 ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1164922 << by this token, it doesn't even matter if mr chump signs or not. they will 'sign' for him, if needed.
11:58 assbot Logged on 16-06-2015 13:45:36; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1164751 << i think you broadly miss the point there. it doesn't matter what it ACTUALLY asks. what matters is that once you sign and serve it, they will pretend it had asked whatever it is they wish it were the case it had asked at any later point, which is how "it doesn't ask about fucktoys" turned into "paetreus broke the law by visiting a local social
11:58 ascii_field not like usg admits crypto-sigs
12:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15050 @ 0.00043555 = 6.555 BTC [+]
12:06 pete_dushenski danielpbarron: you should be trading for m.mpif !
12:06 danielpbarron eh idk how good i really am; I'm finally starting to break even in USD terms I think
12:07 pete_dushenski danielpbarron: your skill is measured in your performance in btc terms
12:07 pete_dushenski mebbe it's too soon to say that you're more than just lucky
12:10 BingoBoingo !t m s.mpoe
12:10 assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00039511 / 0.00042046 / 0.00043555 (4516394 shares, 1,899.01 BTC), 7D: 0.00034281 / 0.00039037 / 0.00043555 (17417074 shares, 6,799.25 BTC), 30D: 0.00024411 / 0.00032758 / 0.00043555 (117158331 shares, 38,379.04 BTC)
12:11 danielpbarron i didn't see mpoe going as high as it is right now
12:11 danielpbarron still got some though so w/e
12:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29700 @ 0.00043555 = 12.9358 BTC [+]
12:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34770 @ 0.00043561 = 15.1462 BTC [+] {2}
12:22 jurov s.mpoe may have some relation to today's btc bump
12:23 jurov but iirc someone did check for correlations and there was none
12:26 jurov !up _biO_
12:26 jurov !up _biO__
12:36 mircea_popescu davout not bad
12:36 davout mircea_popescu: what?
12:37 mircea_popescu you highlighted me re euro price
12:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00042681 = 4.9937 BTC [-]
12:40 mircea_popescu http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/chart.png?width=940&m=bitstampUSD&SubmitButton=Draw&r=60&i=&c=0&s=&e=&Prev=&Next=&t=S&b=&a1=&m1=10&a2=&m2=25&x=0&i1=&i2=&i3=&i4=&v=1&cv=0&ps=0&l=0&p=0& << lookin' pretty.
12:40 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1GbVznp )
12:44 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1164761 >> zing
12:44 assbot Logged on 16-06-2015 02:21:13; ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> when an otherwise smart guy is too stupid to get out of the rain. << or insists, operating under a complete lack of evidence that "it can't possibly keep going on like this much longer!"
12:45 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1164762 << ye hear that alf ? b,tmsro~ hereby orders you to grow a beard and wear a hat.
12:45 assbot Logged on 16-06-2015 02:24:53; ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> that sounds pretty jewish << he's probably the most jewish jew in here - endlessly pessimistic about everything, everything costs $maxint, gurls are unreadable, and practically a talmudic scholar to boot
12:45 pete_dushenski don't forget the payas.
12:46 mircea_popescu and papayas, ya
12:46 mircea_popescu can hoola while he schools.
12:46 pete_dushenski lmao
12:46 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
12:47 ascii_field beard can wait for the camps
12:47 ascii_field (and they'll give me a hat)
12:47 pete_dushenski alf is definitely of the old skool, old country judaism : expects life to be rapey and generally full of suck
12:48 ascii_field hard to go wrong with this algo.
12:48 mircea_popescu he's a russian orthodox jew
12:48 pete_dushenski the optimists found their ways to the colonies where they could dream of valhalla, much to the detriment of art, goodness, etc
12:48 ascii_field (hence why this is the only aspect of judaism that survived in su)
12:48 mircea_popescu nah, the one aspect of judaism that explains why judaism survived at all survived in su too :
12:48 mircea_popescu rachel's still a slut.
12:49 ascii_field this too presumably lives somewhere. but i will have to take mircea_popescu's word for it
12:50 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1164769 << dunno how good for your wrists that thing is
12:50 assbot Logged on 16-06-2015 02:59:10; ben_vulpes: dpb's a clit tickler!
12:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50750 @ 0.00042647 = 21.6434 BTC [-] {2}
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13:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9879 @ 0.00042664 = 4.2148 BTC [+]
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13:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39050 @ 0.00042662 = 16.6595 BTC [-] {2}
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13:46 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1164790 << i really don't get it, isn't the point of these things to set an adolescent hookup ?
13:46 assbot Logged on 16-06-2015 03:33:23; Adlai: and this was a few years back. haven't seen many of those 'parties' since then, either
13:48 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1164796 << the effects of advanced senility can not be distinguished from the results of working for a government like
13:48 assbot Logged on 16-06-2015 03:42:33; decimation: seems to me that he's going senile
13:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6846 @ 0.00042681 = 2.9219 BTC [+]
14:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18154 @ 0.00042681 = 7.7483 BTC [+]
14:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32400 @ 0.00043367 = 14.0509 BTC [+]
14:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26913 @ 0.00043139 = 11.61 BTC [-] {2}
14:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28480 @ 0.0004228 = 12.0413 BTC [-]
14:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40800 @ 0.00042186 = 17.2119 BTC [-] {2}
14:27 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1164801 << ford went to work in a horsedrawn buggy for most of his life too.
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14:27 assbot Logged on 16-06-2015 03:45:25; mod6: staggers the imagination
14:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38415 @ 0.00043609 = 16.7524 BTC [+]
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14:44 mircea_popescu today in frog history, http://36.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mak5d2AZaK1rz41xbo1_1280.jpg
14:44 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1J2HQq0 )
14:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44097 @ 0.00042541 = 18.7593 BTC [-]
15:00 jurov would we have ever heard of bitcoin if satoshi eschewed windows?
15:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35850 @ 0.00043609 = 15.6338 BTC [+]
15:01 mircea_popescu i can definitely say i would have.
15:01 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
15:02 * ascii_field confused. wtf good did it do anyone that he used winblows ?
15:02 mircea_popescu i think his idea is "prosti da' multi"
15:02 jurov mircea_popescu: you got the preport from people who used it on linux?
15:02 jurov *report
15:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 86035 @ 0.00043768 = 37.6558 BTC [+] {4}
15:04 mircea_popescu jurov yes. all the people that insisted and eventually got me to check it out, on both episodes, run open source stuff
15:04 mircea_popescu most of which some sort of linux
15:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26398 @ 0.00042631 = 11.2537 BTC [-]
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15:33 BingoBoingo !UP ascii_field
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16:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51293 @ 0.00043725 = 22.4279 BTC [+] {2}
16:04 BingoBoingo !up ascii_field
16:11 cazalla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1164990 <<< such a shame about that one eh
16:11 assbot Logged on 16-06-2015 14:18:50; pete_dushenski: and i'll always have a giant boner for lindsay lohan
16:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35400 @ 0.00043883 = 15.5346 BTC [+] {2}
16:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10602 @ 0.00042631 = 4.5197 BTC [-]
16:19 BingoBoingo cazalla: What's the shame. She made money young and nao does what she wants?
16:19 lobbes BingoBoingo: shame due to her becoming a walking corpse
16:20 BingoBoingo lobbes: Maybe she's secretly trans-zombie but not out of that closet yet?
16:20 cazalla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1165022 <<< two of those adverts sport "made in australia" (bonds and jockey).. there was a bonds factory not far from where i grew up and my mother would take us in there now and again to buy factory seconds as it was cheaper.. in they end they closed up shop and moved to china
16:20 assbot Logged on 16-06-2015 14:28:24; assbot: Logged on 16-06-2015 12:01:50; jurov: http://www.boredpanda.com/1970s-mens-fashion-ads/ lol YES
16:20 cazalla BingoBoingo, lobbes pretty much has it, girl isn't even 30 yet believe it or not
16:20 cazalla mind you, i'd still fuck her
16:21 BingoBoingo I know.
16:24 jurov anyone else got likely scam from azelphur.irc@gmail.com ?
16:24 jurov "Hello my friend , how is going, long time i didn't see u on IRC .When u have time pls email me i have some offer .Thanks"
16:24 Azelphur heh, not my address / not an address I control.
16:24 BingoBoingo jurov: Got one fron DoctorBTC
16:24 Azelphur there has been some guy on a mission impersonating me on OTC recently, must be the same fellow.
16:25 BingoBoingo Replied saying no, not at this price figuring it was legit.
16:25 punkman do these come at your gpg email address?
16:25 jurov yes
16:26 BingoBoingo yes
16:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00044046 = 2.7309 BTC [+]
16:30 mircea_popescu nuts dude, by now people are actually trying to impersonate the b-a dom ?!
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16:31 BingoBoingo Well, the -otc dom
16:31 davout !b 2
16:31 assbot Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3VFDE27.txt )
16:35 lobbes !up ascii_field
16:36 ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1165236 << wait till they start uploading 'magic' keys for us to sks
16:36 assbot Logged on 16-06-2015 20:30:24; mircea_popescu: nuts dude, by now people are actually trying to impersonate the b-a dom ?!
16:40 mike_c does anyone around here know anything about the internals of the bitstamp trading engine? or maybe an engineer who works there?
16:40 jurov mike_c: why? kako had some rumors
16:41 mike_c i feel like i have a problem similar to theirs.. I've got a transaction engine running in c#, but websites built in python.
16:41 mike_c I know their site runs off django, but i seriously doubt their trading engine is python
16:42 mike_c I'm curious how they handle communication between those pieces
16:42 jurov api goes straight to trade engine, i guess
16:43 mike_c but you still must have a lot of data sharing. two software stacks that hit the same database? seems problematic to manage
16:43 mike_c or you have an api that handles everything they have to talk to each other, which also seems like a pain.
16:43 jurov how would the db hard to manage?
16:44 mike_c !up gernika
16:44 gernika thx
16:44 mike_c change in the db, gotta mirror that on both codebases..
16:44 mike_c not very DRY
16:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 132050 @ 0.0004406 = 58.1812 BTC [+] {4}
16:45 mike_c gernika says their trading engine was written in node.js as of a couple years ago..
16:45 jurov !s kakobrekla mysql backup
16:45 assbot 0 results for 'kakobrekla mysql backup' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=kakobrekla+mysql+backup
16:45 trinque eh not necessarily; they'd be hitting the same db but for different reasons
16:45 jurov !s kakobrekla mysql
16:45 assbot 6 results for 'kakobrekla mysql' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=kakobrekla+mysql
16:45 gernika This was roughly around the time of the scam foundation's first conf in San Jose.
16:46 jurov ^ last hit there
16:47 kakobrekla iirc they had a single process with a half a second sleep each time for engine
16:47 mike_c nice
16:47 kakobrekla hence bids bigger than asks and shit
16:48 gernika ah shit - that's right they were usnig node.js for the price ticker
16:48 mike_c greater number of software stacks = greater success
16:49 trinque mike_c: anything that might be duplicated between two things accessing the db could be a view in the db instead
16:50 trinque tends to be my opinion that people have largely forgotten the art of database views
16:50 mike_c yeah.. i guess i'm thinking about business logic. needs to be separated very cleanly for this to work.
16:50 trinque all that hairy node/django/whatever... it all tends to be poorly written substitutes for db queries
16:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 185050 @ 0.00042846 = 79.2865 BTC [-] {3}
16:54 cazalla http://www.digitaljournal.com/pr/2586559 "On average, Bitcoinist has 350,000+ unique visitors a month with 550,000 page views, and this is increasing every month." it's a press release mind you.. it's growing so much they're discounting their ad spots!
16:54 assbot Bitcoin News Platform Bitcoinist.net Experiences Rapid Growth Announces 30% Discount For Advertisers - Press Release - Digital Journal ... ( http://bit.ly/1TrxUJA )
16:56 ben_vulpes trinque: but sql's scary
16:56 ben_vulpes i can't handle relational algebra
16:56 ben_vulpes math is hard
16:56 ben_vulpes and django does so much thinking for me!
16:58 thestringpuller ben_vulpes uses django?
16:58 mike_c it says so on his webpage
16:58 thestringpuller cascadianhacker?
16:59 BingoBoingo nah, his something jimmies page
16:59 trinque hueeee
16:59 trinque ben_vulpes: yeah and django has a sweet conference!
17:02 ben_vulpes so friendly!
17:02 ben_vulpes and the people have such cool hair!
17:03 ben_vulpes 'something jimmies' < hyu
17:03 ascii_field ben_vulpes: you ever get the rng working ?
17:05 mircea_popescu cazalla how much do they charge ?
17:06 ben_vulpes ascii_field: need a digital-analog capture story
17:06 ben_vulpes sorry, analog-digital capture
17:06 ascii_field ben_vulpes: no you don't. it's a logic-level out!
17:06 mircea_popescu in other news, i stumbled upon a selection of trade engines : http://i.imgur.com/oBOraiD.jpg
17:06 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1GcrNPk )
17:06 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
17:07 ascii_field ben_vulpes: v_high ~= v_supply
17:07 mike_c da fuq are those? porcupines?
17:07 BingoBoingo mike_c: Hedgehogs
17:08 ben_vulpes what hardware an i use to capture that, though? i'm blocked on true serial capture until i procure a device that has true serial in
17:08 BingoBoingo porcupines and that hand would likely have quills embedded already
17:08 mike_c heh, yeah. cute little buggers.
17:09 ascii_field ben_vulpes: try ftdi245
17:09 ascii_field ben_vulpes: or logic analyzer (unlike the affair i described last week, this doesn't need a fast one)
17:10 ascii_field if you own so much as a 1970s-era analyzer, it'll do
17:11 BingoBoingo All day today there has been a rather spectacular box turtle nomming on the slugs in the front flowerbeds, hope the little dude settles down there for a bit
17:12 BingoBoingo "If a pet hedgehog appears to be gaining too much weight, it is important that the hedgehog’s caretaker cut back on high fat foods and increase exercise. Hedgehogs vary in size so there is no "goal weight" for a hedgehog, but if they can no longer roll completely into a ball it is a pretty clear sign of obesity" << hedgehogs can become hedge hamplanets too.
17:13 ben_vulpes hamplanetoid
17:13 ben_vulpes hamrock trapped in a hamity well
17:13 ben_vulpes hamityvill horror
17:14 * BingoBoingo actually saw and AMBULATORY! galaxy today at the liquor store. Circumfrence roughly 0.8x height
17:16 ben_vulpes i've seen a bit more of the same lately.
17:16 BingoBoingo Was driving suspiciously nice car and carrying brown bag out at 8:15ish in the morning
17:17 BingoBoingo Sorry, not circumfrence, diameter
17:17 BingoBoingo Diameter is the one you can eyeball in profile view. Diameter 0.8x height.
17:18 BingoBoingo circumfrence 0.8x height might not even qualify as planet sometimes.
17:19 thestringpuller the real question BingoBoingo is why were you at the liquor store at 8:15ish in the morning?
17:19 ben_vulpes orbital body
17:19 BingoBoingo thestringpuller: Cheapest cigarettes in town
17:19 thestringpuller Answer is acceptable.
17:20 BingoBoingo Also switched a big chunk of domicile's lighting to LED today so need liquor later.
17:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34800 @ 0.00042266 = 14.7086 BTC [-] {2}
17:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 122600 @ 0.00043877 = 53.7932 BTC [+] {3}
17:39 thestringpuller !up ascii_field
17:44 trinque https://medium.com/@InertialLemon/apple-s-bitcode-telegraphs-future-cpu-plans-a7b90d326228 << I read this as indicating that in the future, Apple apps will be submitted as signed "bitcode", not a signed executable binary
17:44 assbot Apple’s Bitcode Telegraphs Future CPU Plans — Medium ... ( http://bit.ly/1Cc8NzO )
17:44 trinque leaving apple free to modify the thing at will from that point forward?
17:45 mats https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=786909
17:45 assbot #786909 - chromium: unconditionally downloads binary blob - Debian Bug report logs ... ( http://bit.ly/1Cc8V2e )
17:46 trinque mats: "ok google" without consent, loool
17:47 mats oops
17:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23500 @ 0.00042746 = 10.0453 BTC [-]
17:49 ascii_field 'After upgrading chromium to 43, I noticed that when it is running and immediately after the machine is on-line it silently starts downloading "Chrome Hotword Shared Module" extension, which contains a binary without source code. There seems no opt-out config.'
17:50 mats all this stuff referring to the OPM hack as "cyber katrina" is also great
17:50 mats "cyber 9/11"
17:51 mats "cyber pearl harbor"
17:51 ascii_field so where the hell is the public dump.
17:51 trinque I'm sure the chinese would rather quietly blackmail people for a while
17:53 trinque so which is it... is cyber-sekurity important, or does encryption "lead us to a dark place"
17:53 trinque bunch of bumbling morons
17:55 * ascii_field still not convinced that this is any kind of actual defeat for usg
17:55 BingoBoingo ascii_field: Just puts usg's loyal still more in debt
17:56 trinque ascii_field: I think you're right that the most critical systems are held to a *much* higher standard than this
17:56 trinque yet those critical systems may be completely surrounded by leper colonies of lesser employees' winderz boxen
17:57 ascii_field trinque: recall when pentagon was pwned ?
17:58 ascii_field what, of any consequence, as far as publicly known, walked away ?
17:58 trinque maybe nothing, though if it had I might say otherwise publically
18:00 ascii_field other thing is, only 'positive' items are even theoretically possible to authenticate. that is, if you find a leak purporting to be from the directorate-of-cracking-rsa, stating that 'sixteen quintillion bezzlars and still no result,' this could be disinfo. whereas 'here's how to factor $maxint on a pocket calculator' is testable.
18:01 ascii_field in as far as i can tell, all of the 'compromises' of the past decade are cultivated reichstag fires, arranged to fatten the kompyooter insekoority 'industry'
18:02 ascii_field and the agent of a particular compromise is the sysadmin who installed winblows, and only distantly and secondarily anybody else.
18:03 trinque yeah I can see that angle
18:03 trinque inconsequential breach == huge check to contractor X
18:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00042142 = 6.3634 BTC [-]
18:08 cazalla mircea_popescu, $14.5 USD / 1K impressions for top 728x90 and 300x250 $9 / 1K impressions on the lower end
18:09 cazalla minimum of 50k imp
18:11 jurov !s blokchain
18:11 assbot 0 results for 'blokchain' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=blokchain
18:12 jurov public notice: never open "blockchain" links in email
18:12 jurov i have got this(open with js off!): https://blokchain.info/address/1CXnMbiWkxfNaVMwfsEBqgZUDMgCpjcaGh/
18:12 assbot Bitcoin Address ... ( http://bit.ly/1JSnxvE )
18:13 jurov with claim of missing deposit and much confusion ensued
18:13 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
18:14 trinque jurov: used curl, didn't spot anything; XSS?
18:14 jurov no, that tx plainly does not exist. look very closely to the url
18:15 trinque oh lol
18:16 jurov maybe there's some bad js too, but noscript blocked it
18:17 ascii_field appears to be a single-shot
18:17 ascii_field (loads 1ce per ip)
18:17 ascii_field classic sp4mz0r trick
18:18 punkman jurov, guy pretending he deposited to coinbr?
18:19 jurov no, coinroll (but same applies)
18:20 punkman guess he does this a lot if he made up a blockhain.info clone. gotta wonder who actually fell for it
18:20 ascii_field https://transparencytoolkit.org/icwatch << it will be interesting to see, when the chinese list is spilled, if the two agree.
18:20 assbot ICWATCH | Transparency Toolkit ... ( http://bit.ly/1JSnVKC )
18:20 ascii_field if not, one or both is disinfo.
18:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46203 @ 0.00043694 = 20.1879 BTC [+] {2}
18:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21497 @ 0.00044277 = 9.5182 BTC [+]
18:25 ascii_field http://phasezero.gawker.com/this-shadow-government-agency-is-scarier-than-the-nsa-1707179377 << more lulz
18:25 assbot This Shadow Government Agency Is Scarier Than the NSA ... ( http://bit.ly/1JSocNE )
18:37 Azelphur jurov: mind forwarding that email to me? I'm curious :)
18:38 jurov which? the one "from you" or the "deposit"?
18:38 Azelphur the one from the fake me :)
18:38 Azelphur azelphur@azelphur.com be the real address :)
18:39 jurov i quoted it here whole, there was only one sentence
18:39 jurov or you want to see headers?
18:39 Azelphur yep, I want the headers
18:40 jurov sent
18:40 BingoBoingo The reply looks like: "I know , i need them tonight ,it is stupid to ask ,but if u can loan me i will be happy + u get % from me . U get them back for 24h with 5% profit"
18:40 Azelphur thanks :)
18:41 cazalla http://imgur.com/a/CJWTD
18:41 assbot Olive Python eating Australian Freshwater Crocodile - Album on Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1JSoRPa )
18:44 BingoBoingo So, Jurassic World actually surprisingly good film. Improvement over the original in that it portrays people at their actual level of stupidity.
18:48 cazalla might go and see it in a few weeks time, not too fussed on sitting through 30 minutes of commercials with a bunch of louts
18:49 cazalla (i was actually tempted to go last night but settled on rambo@home)
18:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55650 @ 0.00044307 = 24.6568 BTC [+] {3}
19:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43900 @ 0.00042255 = 18.5499 BTC [-] {4}
19:09 BingoBoingo It takes just a few minutes of time to get over the gut reaction that the dinosaurs should look better, but the practical effects in the first movie were so good and inflation adjusted this one had a much smaller budget.
19:09 BingoBoingo The dynamics of the human drama tho, very realistic even if the characters themselves are rather stupid
19:21 BingoBoingo scoopbot_revived: fetch?
19:21 BingoBoingo !up felipelalli
19:21 scoopbot_revived Hulk Hogan Puts Denton's Control of Gawker Media on Life Support http://qntra.net/2015/06/hulk-hogan-puts-dentons-control-of-gawker-media-on-life-support/
19:21 BingoBoingo ^ Cuckolding just for you mircea_popescu
19:24 felipelalli BingoBoingo: I'd like to watch. I thought it was filled of cliches.
19:24 BingoBoingo felipelalli: It is, but in a good way
19:24 felipelalli BingoBoingo: nice! I think worth try.
19:25 BingoBoingo felipelalli: Probably the best film out of Hollywood since "Million Dollar Baby"
19:25 felipelalli BingoBoingo: wow! That is surprisingly to me
19:26 BingoBoingo felipelalli: I may also be a flawed judge of films though.
19:26 BingoBoingo I thoroughly enjoyed "The Highlander" as an example
19:26 felipelalli ahhahaha well, I'll try anyway and I tell you!
19:27 felipelalli BingoBoingo: what about "Transformers"? The worst film I watched ever.
19:27 BingoBoingo If you are too risk averse you could always try the safe torrent and then pay option
19:27 BingoBoingo Much better than Transformers
19:28 BingoBoingo Transformers kind sucked except for the visual spectacle of robot combat in the first movie and never even had that in the later films
19:28 BingoBoingo !up Duffer1
19:28 BingoBoingo !gettrust Duffer1
19:28 assbot Trust relationship from user BingoBoingo to user Duffer1: Level 1: 2, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=BingoBoingo&to=Duffer1 | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/Duffer1/
19:28 BingoBoingo !gettrust assbot Duffer1
19:28 assbot Trust relationship from user assbot to user Duffer1: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=assbot&to=Duffer1 | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/Duffer1/
19:29 BingoBoingo Duffer1: Are you familar with how to auth with assbot post split?
19:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55500 @ 0.00041964 = 23.29 BTC [-] {2}
19:30 felipelalli BingoBoingo: why gribble don't catch the ! commands in this channel as well? I use !gettrust to gribble in other channels.
19:30 felipelalli ;;gettrust BingoBoingo
19:30 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user felipelalli to user BingoBoingo: Level 1: 4, Level 2: 7 via 4 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=felipelalli&dest=BingoBoingo | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=BingoBoingo | Rated since: Wed Mar 20 03:45:45 2013
19:30 BingoBoingo felipelalli: Because in this one gribble only responds to ;; command
19:30 felipelalli BingoBoingo: is that a modified gribble?
19:30 BingoBoingo No idea.
19:31 felipelalli Is that a modified gribble?
19:31 felipelalli ;;8ball
19:31 gribble About as likely as pigs flying.
19:36 BingoBoingo Any obvious errors in the Hulkster piece?
19:41 mats felipelalli: same gribble, assbot takes ! so the trigger is different to prevent collisions
19:41 BingoBoingo OpenBSD advantage over "Linux" plan for continuity of leadership http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-06-16/the-creator-of-linux-on-the-future-without-him
19:41 assbot The Creator of Linux on the Future Without Him - Bloomberg Business ... ( http://bit.ly/1Sm2Iu0 )
19:42 cazalla BingoBoingo, turned an a to an an but other than that, gg
19:42 BingoBoingo cazalla: Thanks
19:43 mircea_popescu wait... hulk hogan ?!
19:43 felipelalli mats: but gribble also takes ! in other channels, but in this channel gribble ignores it.
19:43 mircea_popescu is that some wrestler dude from back when i still did teenagers one at a time ?!
19:44 mats yes
19:44 cazalla mircea_popescu, that's him and he stretched as far as down under back then
19:44 mircea_popescu wow.
19:45 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Indeed it was the dude who lifted Andre the Giant
19:45 BingoBoingo ;;later tell pete_dushenski http://qntra.net/2015/06/btc-guild-closing-after-choosing-wrong-side-of-history/#comment-27640
19:45 assbot BTC Guild: Closing After Choosing Wrong Side of History | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1Sm3p6o )
19:45 gribble The operation succeeded.
19:45 mircea_popescu so let me get this straight, usg is trying its damndest to sink bitcoin by sending every washed up child pr0n dude this way ; meanwhile we're just sitting pretty while the flagship usg propaganda tool self-sinks under the weight of washed up wrestlers ?
19:45 cazalla andre was bigger than himself down under
19:45 mircea_popescu scarcely could there be more poetry in ther world.
19:46 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> so let me get this straight, usg is trying its damndest to sink bitcoin by sending every washed up child pr0n dude this way ; meanwhile we're just sitting pretty while the flagship usg propaganda tool self-sinks under the weight of washed up wrestlers ? << Yes
19:46 cazalla GBANGA! (who is this guy lol)
19:46 mircea_popescu i dunno but he's active.
19:46 mircea_popescu also, heather clem looks made to be fucked on cam and naught else.
19:47 BingoBoingo Also, the "Love Sponge" is a radio personality and not a fellow wrassler
19:47 mircea_popescu "I should make it clear: we would have settled too, in the interest of fighting another day, if Hogan’s demands were reasonable and the story flawed in any way. But now that the trial is on, we intend to fight it as far as we need to and we can." = we have as much money as josh garza
19:48 mircea_popescu radio personality ?!
19:48 mircea_popescu what is this, the late 1890s ?
19:48 mircea_popescu anyway very nice work BingoBoingo
19:48 cazalla mircea_popescu, which isn't much these days, it would appear he pawned his domain https://forum.gethashing.com/t/scam-gawminers-paybase-zencloud/67/14048
19:48 assbot [SCAM] GAWMiners, Paybase, ZenCloud - GetHashing Crypto Community Forum ... ( http://bit.ly/1GLXow7 )
19:48 mircea_popescu heh.
19:49 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: You know like the assholes who keep music from playing on music stations in the morning so instead you set the car's radio to less shitty talk radio all day
19:49 mircea_popescu cazalla i doubt they're selling anything whatsoever at those prices, but hey. the world was made out of pretense.
19:49 mircea_popescu not this world, but a world somewhere sometime. let's pretend it was, at any rate.
19:49 cazalla well if he has no intention to repay the loan, i'm sure he is happy to take anything he can get
19:50 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Anyways from what I understand Nick Denton's peak wealth was right around 8-9 figure sum of dollars and he sunk nearly all of it on Gawker Media liberalizing everything. This is likely a move to justify outside investors covering his loss and letting USG propaganda outlet pass to other hands.
19:51 mircea_popescu mats hey, it worked for "cybersex"
19:52 BingoBoingo O.o https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/3a3mub/hulk_hogangawker_lawsuit_false_flag_for/
19:52 assbot Hulk Hogan-Gawker Lawsuit False Flag For Investment Scam? : conspiracy ... ( http://bit.ly/1Sm4oDO )
19:52 mircea_popescu * ascii_field still not convinced that this is any kind of actual defeat for usg << and if i serve it cooked you still wouldn't be. it's like a religion with you :D
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19:52 BingoBoingo !up felipelalli
19:53 mircea_popescu <jurov> with claim of missing deposit and much confusion ensued << nuts eh.
19:53 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> * ascii_field still not convinced that this is any kind of actual defeat for usg << and if i serve it cooked you still wouldn't be. it's like a religion with you :D << USG atm is in its "Opium Wars" phase except it is both Britain and China.
19:54 mats it really pleases me that qntra works in lynx
19:54 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo no way in fuck did anyone sink 1 billion into gawker
19:54 mircea_popescu !up DanielBTC
19:55 mircea_popescu the entire budget for the thing's entire existence is a coupla mil or so. this spercifically discounting all pretense.
19:56 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: 9's hundred million? But yeah couple mill per year. Even the first years Gawker cost a few million a year when it was one hired girl and the celebrity stalker because "viral" cost millions paid to Newsweek and other dead trees to get any attention at all.
19:56 BingoBoingo mats: Qntra is optimized for lynx
19:56 BingoBoingo Intentionally optimized for lynx
19:58 mats hogan cucked
19:58 mats thats rich
19:58 shinohai ;;later tell ben_vulpes compiled on Debian Jessie and Ubuntu 14.04
19:58 gribble The operation succeeded.
19:59 cazalla if the price keeps going up so fast i'm gonna get fucked on that above $280 bet :\ pls wait 4 days kgo
19:59 BingoBoingo mats: Well, if you are going to get a bull to cuck your wife, but you don't want black in your wife... limits your options...
20:00 mats i wonder if this is how history will remember gawker
20:00 mats destroyed because hulk hogan is on tape asking to be cucked
20:00 cazalla i thought it was hogan fucking the other guy's missus?
20:01 BingoBoingo mats: No, Hogan is doing the cucking as cazalla says
20:01 mats oh right
20:03 cazalla hulk need money? not sure why he'd be so butthurt, not like it was a gay sex tape or something
20:03 BingoBoingo The short of the drama around the tape is Hogan thought he was doing a service by satisfying this guy's wife. The cuckold and his wife violated Hogan's trust by videotaping this charitable act.
20:05 BingoBoingo !up Petit_Dejeuner
20:08 BingoBoingo danielpbarron: http://www.tedunangst.com/flak/post/signify-shortcomings
20:08 assbot signify shortcomings ... ( http://bit.ly/1Sm75oP )
20:12 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1165471 << let's put it this way: i look out the window, and see usg. when it is no longer there, then - yes, defeated
20:12 assbot Logged on 16-06-2015 23:52:10; mircea_popescu: * ascii_field still not convinced that this is any kind of actual defeat for usg << and if i serve it cooked you still wouldn't be. it's like a religion with you :D
20:13 asciilifeform or, something more practical, when somebody tells me what the weak class of aes keys is.
20:14 asciilifeform or a plausible story re: why 'whirlpool' was rejected.
20:14 asciilifeform or, or.
20:19 asciilifeform or, to take a different tack, when 1,001 usg weapons caches in eastern eu and ru are loudly and publicly blown up
20:20 asciilifeform or similar 'leak' with unambiguous physical consequences.
20:20 asciilifeform there was no shortage of these when su was imploding
20:20 asciilifeform it is entirely fair to hold the u.s. collapse to the same historical standard.
20:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 77000 @ 0.00041962 = 32.3107 BTC [-]
20:38 * funkenstein_ is curious what alf sees out the window
20:41 * funkenstein_ frowns at new tabloid qntra
20:47 BingoBoingo funkenstein_: What's tabloid?
20:48 BingoBoingo If you are talking about Nick Denton's impending abandonment of Gawker Media... Very early qntra was far less kind to GAW Miners going so far as to label them "Jizz Moppers"
20:49 trinque ^ points to a serious decline if you ask me
20:49 trinque (just kidding)
20:52 BingoBoingo It is seriously not a secret at all that Nick Denton sucks cocks. That would literally be the opposite of news.
20:54 funkenstein_ gotta keep up with the celebrity gossip i guess
20:54 funkenstein_ that's why i read kunstler
20:55 funkenstein_ no sorry, likely i am just ignorant and gawker has some importance I don't know about
20:56 BingoBoingo It has tremendous importance in the same way the white squared Bishop does on a chess board.
20:56 * trinque checks the front page of gawker
20:56 trinque yeah... death to gawker
20:56 trinque here's a lol
20:56 trinque http://gawker.com/report-ex-nfl-cheerleader-pleads-guilty-to-raping-15-y-1711738051
20:56 assbot Ex-NFL Cheerleader Pleads Guilty to Raping 15-Year-Old Boy ... ( http://bit.ly/1HR5NiH )
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21:31 danielpbarron !up DanielBTC
21:33 cazalla 48 year old cheerleader, i guess that could've been traumatic but i would've been quite happy to fuck that at 15
21:33 cazalla prob not brag worthy to ya mates though
21:34 BingoBoingo !up ag3nt_zer0
21:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3627 @ 0.00042038 = 1.5247 BTC [+]
21:34 ag3nt_zer0 Hey thanks BingoBoingo
21:35 ag3nt_zer0 how's it going?
21:37 trinque ag3nt_zer0: did you get your gpg sorted?
21:37 DanielBTC Hi people. Thanks for the voice danielpbarron
21:38 DanielBTC I new here in this channel I will read a little the wiki =)
21:38 DanielBTC I'm
21:38 BingoBoingo Oh things are things
21:39 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market buttchina
21:39 gribble BTCChina BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 251.721972, Best ask: 252.369594, Bid-ask spread: 0.64762, Last trade: 252.369594, 24 hour volume: 29606.80310000, 24 hour low: 237.09087, 24 hour high: 258.087033, 24 hour vwap: 245.967301408
21:39 ag3nt_zer0 trinque: yeah I am thinking since I was told yesterday that doing it right means local and plaintext then it doesnt really matter that it is linked to something that can operate with thunderbird and enigmail... I can simply keep it linked to my tutanota account... this makes sense to me but I don't know shit about this stuff...
21:39 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market buttstamp
21:39 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 246.97, Best ask: 247.15, Bid-ask spread: 0.18000, Last trade: 247.16, 24 hour volume: 18553.50125584, 24 hour low: 234.35, 24 hour high: 252.2, 24 hour vwap: 243.254668613
21:39 felipelalli welcome DanielBTC! He's a personal friend, same city as mine.
21:40 ag3nt_zer0 I am coinfused as to how the "keys" work though... is my "fingerprint" my public key?
21:40 BingoBoingo ag3nt_zer0: Any pop3 or imap email that allows your client direct access to smtp for outgoing is fine
21:41 trinque ag3nt_zer0: no, that is a unique identifier for your public key
21:41 BingoBoingo or at least "unique"
21:43 ag3nt_zer0 BingoBoingo: yes but if I am encrypting plaintext then I am just attaching the file... tutanota, which I set it up with, provides their own encryption, so it isnt pop3 or imap... I think... they told me they cant do that since they are encrypted
21:43 BingoBoingo Mega med lol http://pipeline.corante.com/archives/2015/06/16/protac_goes_smallmolecule.php
21:43 assbot PROTAC Goes Small-Molecule. In the Pipeline: ... ( http://bit.ly/1MJEhCN )
21:44 BingoBoingo ag3nt_zer0: Then don's bother with them. encyt your plaintext to asciiarmored plaintext.
21:44 danielpbarron !up ahmed_
21:44 ahmed_ awesome ty
21:44 BingoBoingo Then pass around armored text blobs
21:44 ahmed_ danielpbarron: do you want BTC or do u want LTC?
21:44 danielpbarron ultimately i'm gonna trade the LTC for btc, so if you can cut out that step that would be great
21:45 ahmed_ alright sure
21:45 BingoBoingo I dun know what tutanota is, but he ideal email provider is three steps dumber than rocks
21:45 ag3nt_zer0 tinque: ok, so this is what will be public? and then how do I decrypt?
21:45 ahmed_ shoot me the private key in PM and i'll shoot u the BTC? or vice versa
21:45 trinque lol what
21:46 trinque ag3nt_zer0: gpg --export --armor <your email address>
21:47 ahmed_ danielpbarron: ^
21:47 danielpbarron ahmed_,
21:47 trinque danielpbarron: send me your private keys kthx
21:47 ag3nt_zer0 trinque: maybe I'll be back in a year if I get a clue haha
21:48 trinque ag3nt_zer0: first focus on learning to use the program gpg
21:48 trinque don't worry about email and such
21:48 trinque encrypt and decrypt a textfile using your own key
21:50 ag3nt_zer0 trinque: ok sounds good... maybe I am looking at the "keys" wrong... since pgp is called the bitcoin-standard in encrypted communications, I just assumed it would have a public key/private key situation similar to BTC and that this would be how to encrypt and decrypt
21:50 trinque it does have that.
21:50 ag3nt_zer0 I will play with it and figure out how to do that basic step first... thanks
21:50 * trinque nods
21:56 cazalla !up Vexual
21:57 danielpbarron !v assbot:danielpbarron.rate.ahmed_.1:dd5d24e5880aa2f04ebe18036995bc8d7df99e83fe9d73a12d40f1ca56640900
21:57 assbot Successfully added a rating of 1 for ahmed_ with note: Litecoin trader
21:57 ahmed_ awesome
21:58 ahmed_ ty danielpbarron
21:58 danielpbarron now you can voice yourself in here with /msg assbot !up
21:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42973 @ 0.00042474 = 18.2524 BTC [+] {2}
21:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18877 @ 0.00043601 = 8.2306 BTC [+]
21:59 danielpbarron and thank you! saved me from having to install some sketchy Litecoin thing just to sell it
22:00 trinque ah that's what he meant re: privkeys
22:00 scoopbot_revived Once upon a time, there was a social contract. http://www.contravex.com/2015/06/16/once-upon-a-time-there-was-a-social-contract/
22:01 danielpbarron i had this paper wallet from back when I was into altcoins, and today the price of LTC is way up for some reason so i figured i'd finally get rid of that thing
22:04 cazalla meh litecoin price is just chinese exchanges doing what chinese do best.. scamming
22:04 cazalla that jubi exchange has been doing it past few weeks with coins like vertcoin
22:09 BingoBoingo So, LED bulbs... really excelling at exterior lighting.
22:10 trinque much better light than that fluorescent shit
22:10 Vexual from rural king?
22:10 cazalla BingoBoingo, you accepting LED bitcoin mining gifts from bitfury or something? should disclose such a thing eh?
22:11 * asciilifeform only accepts optical, quantum interference mining modules from 'bitlazy'
22:11 BingoBoingo cazalla: Nah, walmart had marked down an older model bulb to clearance, scooped a bunch up. Prolly should have checked for network connectivity and miners
22:11 BingoBoingo * asciilifeform only accepts optical, quantum interference mining modules from 'bitlazy' << lol
22:12 BingoBoingo One can only evaluate bitlazy in haskell
22:12 asciilifeform BitLazy! the reich's #1-selling bitcotron! Mine While Not Giving a Flying Fuck (TM) (R)
22:13 Vexual fucklazy (tm)
22:14 cazalla BingoBoingo, what are they rated to last for? i usually go whatever is cheapest on account all that shit is made in china and probably won't last near what they claim it will (but just long enough that i've binned receipt)
22:14 asciilifeform '...aaaand remember kidddz! Tarpy the Terror Tamarind says: Only YOU can prevent Financial Terrorism!'
22:14 * asciilifeform switches off time machine, goes back to wurk
22:15 BingoBoingo cazalla: Every single one everywhere here says up to 22 years so all are bullshitting. I just got to cut consumption vs. previous socket occupants
22:15 cazalla lol 22 years
22:15 asciilifeform 'lifetime warranty.' 'whose life?' 'product's'
22:17 Vexual usually
22:17 Vexual if it breaks they update the model nummber
22:21 BingoBoingo !up joecool
22:22 Vexual tv is covered with the scandal of isis agents paying us100's to poor fishermen to take refugees back to indo
22:22 Vexual *asis
22:22 BingoBoingo Moar like AssAss
22:22 Vexual poor fucks might still have their money if it was bitcoin
22:23 joecool BingoBoingo: hey, thanks... i'm in wot though, or did you just miss hearing from me?
22:23 BingoBoingo Just missed you
22:27 Vexual hey duffer
22:27 Duffer1 hi guys :) sorry gotta run, afk a bit
22:35 BingoBoingo To the niggers.txt files http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/33145897
22:35 assbot BBC Sport - Lotto Cycling Cup organisers apologise for bikini models ... ( http://bit.ly/1GXSZb7 )
22:37 cazalla surprised they're yet to attack boxing ring girls yet
22:42 cazalla gee google is shit.. i search "word antonym".. did you mean "word synonym" ?
22:44 BingoBoingo cazalla: Ring girls are protected by the mighty pay-per-view barrier
22:45 cazalla BingoBoingo, not every fight is ppv though yet pletny of ring girls to be found on the shitty circuits they show here down under
22:46 cazalla !up Vexual
22:47 Vexual BingoBoingo, The ring girls for our fight are prolly geing born now
22:47 BingoBoingo Vexual: Probably
22:48 Vexual or failing at school
22:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20800 @ 0.00041783 = 8.6909 BTC [-] {3}
22:51 decimation maybe they are maths geniuses
22:51 Vexual they can add n to 1
22:51 asciilifeform why would those watch a match, l0l. they fuck 24/7
22:55 Vexual i dunno about maths geniuses, but i know bb knows i don't know to box, and wouldnt expose himself to the spectacle
22:55 asciilifeform http://rem.eifzilla.de/archives/2012/11/27/the-tragedy-of-gnu-copyright-assignments
22:55 assbot The tragedy of GNU copyright assignments -- Werner's own blurbs ... ( http://bit.ly/1GdiWNo )
22:56 asciilifeform 'Libgcrypt now accepts contributions after having received a simple mail (right, e-mail, no transatlantic snail mail) with a Developer’s Certificate of Origin as known from other projects. Voilà, patches with new features and performance improvements started to come in.'
22:56 asciilifeform ^ ?!#!@??@?$%%!!!!!
22:57 decimation asciilifeform: stallman sits upon emacs, etc
22:57 asciilifeform 'The FSFE's December newsletter mentioned this article. For whatever reasons it suddenly disappeared from the website. A diff against Google's cache shows...'
23:00 decimation asciilifeform: who are these contributors who were afraid of contributing to a gnu (instead of werner) copyright?
23:01 Vexual diff us
23:08 decimation "as u see on this postcard im in great country of fuckwitstan. pls to commit my patches ur cryptolib"
23:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19198 @ 0.00041648 = 7.9956 BTC [-] {2}
23:09 Vexual ah
23:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42555 @ 0.0004159 = 17.6986 BTC [-] {2}
23:11 Vexual a popular process these days no?
23:14 Vexual fucklazy is never good
23:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17223 @ 0.00042444 = 7.3101 BTC [+] {2}
23:27 mircea_popescu asciilifeform "defeated" != "any sort of defeat".
23:28 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo you have to appreciate i don't do bezzle. that "couple mil" per year was about 20k actual deductibles and the rest fluff.
23:29 mircea_popescu <mats> i wonder if this is how history will remember gawker << it's certainly how i'll remember it. "that wanna-be news-livejournal thing that got destroyed by hulk hogan"
23:31 mircea_popescu <asciilifeform> or similar 'leak' with unambiguous physical consequences. << the "unambiguous" in there is a no true scotsman. you know for a fact that leaks to date have had physical consequences of the worst kind for the twerps in question, and you know they know, and you can observe them act in consequence of that knowledge. they digested the fact they are informationally defeated.
23:31 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Sure, but you have to consider Denton only does Bezzel, Blow Jobs, and Loss leading social engineering. From what I understand he hit his peak wealth before Gawker got close to popular. Much like i hit peak fitness a decade ago befor I had internet connected terminal at "werk"
23:32 mircea_popescu yeah well. sucks to be him,
23:34 BingoBoingo Sure, but his gay is more accept nao than Turing's was then. Even though he also had to bankroll fat acceptance, Kardashians, and lets hate athletic success to make it happen.
23:34 mircea_popescu <BingoBoingo> So, LED bulbs... really excelling at exterior lighting. << so they are. also they bother the fauna, so less racoons
23:35 BingoBoingo The stray cats adore them
23:35 decimation mircea_popescu: 'has physical consequences' seems like a solid criteria, not 'no true scotsman'
23:35 mircea_popescu the kardasshian part in there is understandable.
23:35 mircea_popescu decimation everything's ambiguous if you wish it to be
23:35 BingoBoingo Sure, the Kim subtype has an ass.
23:36 BingoBoingo The other's are too hammy
23:36 decimation in the case in question though, I think it does do damage to usg where it hurts
23:36 mircea_popescu the others didn't have the gumption tro spend a coupla years as paris hilton's foot slaves
23:36 mircea_popescu this makes a difference.
23:36 BingoBoingo No they didn't
23:36 mircea_popescu decimation look at it this way :
23:36 mircea_popescu !s we know where you live
23:36 assbot 7 results for 'we know where you live' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=we+know+where+you+live
23:37 mircea_popescu and for that matter
23:37 mircea_popescu !s from:mircea you get killed
23:37 assbot 11 results for 'from:mircea you get killed' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=from%3Amircea+you+get+killed
23:37 mircea_popescu generally, early discussion of later to be publicly known stuff is considered unambiguous enough.
23:37 scoopbot_revived BitPay Continues To Falter http://qntra.net/2015/06/bitpay-continues-to-falter/
23:37 decimation not to minimize your reign of terror, but I think usg servants fear chinese agents even more
23:37 mircea_popescu but obviously unambiguity standards vary.
23:37 mircea_popescu why would they be able to distinguish ?
23:38 BingoBoingo Kim has an ass that can only be built from Armenia, Squats, and slavish dedication. Kim's sisters... Have bodies built by lazy and spandex tressing.
23:39 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: let's rephrase. ever heard of a fella named sergey motorin? adolf tolkachev ?
23:39 cazalla fwiw i don't even think she's that attractive (bisfh obviously)
23:39 asciilifeform su folks who turned coat and worked for usg. outed, and shot
23:40 mircea_popescu and who the fuck apologizes for women that look good in bikinis
23:40 asciilifeform that's 'physical consequence'
23:40 asciilifeform and it was (after a bit) public
23:40 mircea_popescu and you don't like the sean guy because reasons.
23:40 asciilifeform http://www.videofact.com/english/tolkachev2.jpg
23:40 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1CczHYh )
23:41 * asciilifeform always thought this photo was an in-joke of some sort
23:44 asciilifeform usg could answer the 'we know where you live' with 'so what, come and get it'
23:46 * BingoBoingo pretty sure best thing at stopping USG action is other USG inertia and USG molasses
23:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14100 @ 0.00043635 = 6.1525 BTC [+]
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