| 00:00 |
mats |
Billy Bob Thornton is one creepy dude |
| 00:01 |
decimation |
mmm hmm |
| 00:01 |
decimation |
actually if there's hope for the us, it seems to be with the states |
| 00:01 |
BingoBoingo |
Around these parts he would be white tie formal |
| 00:02 |
decimation |
apparently colorado and others can just preempt federal law if they feel like it, and the feds are 'unable' to do anything |
| 00:02 |
mats |
whats that you're referring to |
| 00:02 |
decimation |
the whole pot thing |
| 00:02 |
decimation |
if you are gonna waste your time on us politics, the most effective use would be state plebecites |
| 00:03 |
mats |
o, 'federalism when convenient' |
| 00:03 |
decimation |
mats: yeah but it kinda demonstrated that the feds are a paper tiger |
| 00:03 |
mats |
feds are still busy fucking the state |
| 00:03 |
mats |
mmj dispensaries cannot deposit funds into national anks |
| 00:03 |
decimation |
as long as the 'reform' you want is popular, the fed's hands are tied to a degree |
| 00:04 |
mats |
makes them an easy target for unscrupulous opportunists |
| 00:04 |
decimation |
mats: so vote on state law preempting federal bank regulation |
| 00:04 |
mats |
that works until scotus tells you to fuck off |
| 00:04 |
decimation |
yeah but here's the thing, the feds don't want to go to scotus |
| 00:04 |
decimation |
in case they lose |
| 00:05 |
decimation |
that's why they didn't take colorado to court, for instance |
| 00:05 |
mats |
i think i'll have to bone up on my case law for this conversation |
| 00:05 |
decimation |
please do. if we can get someone to author anti kyc/aml regulation in some state it would be a huge win for bitcoin |
| 00:06 |
decimation |
this whole hastert affair still pisses me off. imagine if a state voted to make it illegal for a bank to report your cash transaction to the feds |
| 00:06 |
mats |
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/06/17/us/charleston-south-carolina-shooting |
| 00:06 |
assbot |
Charleston church shooting: Multiple deaths reported - CNN.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1Bp7Xoe ) |
| 00:07 |
decimation |
oh lordy, white man shootin' black people. gonna be trayvon all over again |
| 00:10 |
BingoBoingo |
"clean-shaven white man" << So much suspicion avoided by keeping a beard |
| 00:12 |
mircea_popescu |
<BingoBoingo> Now clay is a material with wildly inconsistent properties << the difference between properly fired fine clay and the bizarre ceramic-like metal replacement the chinese use is slight. |
| 00:12 |
mircea_popescu |
(break a "solid metal" chinese item - see the porous microstructure) |
| 00:13 |
asciilifeform |
^ zamac |
| 00:13 |
BingoBoingo |
"fine clay" << /me mostly considers lical jungle clay of which there is an abundance. |
| 00:14 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-06-2015#1167211 << not so simple. gotta get fingerprinted, filed in triplicate, and letter of permission from local sheriff (automatic in some states, a definite 'never' in others) plus subject to random inspections. |
| 00:14 |
assbot |
Logged on 18-06-2015 03:47:32; decimation: apparently you can craft your own suppressor if you pay USG $200 |
| 00:15 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform i thought zamac is actually an alloy not a carbide |
| 00:15 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: some forums I read suggest that they can't inspect your weapon (without a warrant), just the tax stamp |
| 00:15 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: alloy. but shows the property described here. |
| 00:16 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: in maryland I suspect the answer is always no |
| 00:16 |
decimation |
unless you are friends with the governor or whatever |
| 00:25 |
BingoBoingo |
Pistola http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=1139&pr=0 |
| 00:25 |
assbot |
JL: The Stop Gap Tank ... ( http://bit.ly/1N4X7oT ) |
| 00:32 |
decimation |
lol "Other useless features were pistol ports (in the middle of a tank battle I am going to throw my 1911.45 cal handgun into the mix!)," |
| 00:33 |
decimation |
imma shoot you with my pistol! pew pew! |
| 00:33 |
decimation |
;;lasers |
| 00:33 |
gribble |
┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!* |
| 00:33 |
asciilifeform |
late-model t-34 had them |
| 00:33 |
asciilifeform |
they aren't for 'tank battle' |
| 00:33 |
asciilifeform |
but for keeping infantry off your back |
| 00:33 |
asciilifeform |
(if the coaxial guns jam, presumably) |
| 00:33 |
decimation |
sure, but what about .50 cal on top |
| 00:34 |
decimation |
at any rate, if a competent infantryman gets close enough to be killed by pistol - you are already dead |
| 00:35 |
decimation |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzerfaust |
| 00:35 |
assbot |
Panzerfaust - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1N4YJ1T ) |
| 00:35 |
asciilifeform |
could have had 'psychological' reason for the ports, such as preventing crew from leaving machine prematurely |
| 00:35 |
decimation |
yeah, anything to make them think they aren't gonna die in a fire or hail of metal shards |
| 00:37 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60400 @ 0.0004424 = 26.721 BTC [-] |
| 00:37 |
decimation |
although I guess the early panzerfausts only had a 30m range! |
| 00:38 |
asciilifeform |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeb3ZLb-wJ4 << obligatory. transl. of ultra-famous ru song on subject. |
| 00:38 |
assbot |
На поле танки грохотали (English Version) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1N4ZpUT ) |
| 00:38 |
decimation |
this means the most obvious anti-tank move for infantry is the traditional one - ambush |
| 00:39 |
mircea_popescu |
!up lobbes |
| 00:39 |
mircea_popescu |
!up lobbesbot |
| 00:40 |
lobbes |
!rate lobbesbot 1 tis my bot |
| 00:40 |
assbot |
Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/ae0fc5d760af1a15 |
| 00:40 |
lobbes |
excellent |
| 00:40 |
asciilifeform |
http://www.lonesentry.com/articles/jp_tankhunters << my favourite historic anti-tank weapon |
| 00:40 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1N4ZIzh ) |
| 00:40 |
mircea_popescu |
decimation the problem those ports were probably trying to address is not "middle of tank battle" but "tank got ambushed by infantry" |
| 00:40 |
mircea_popescu |
small caliber not such a bad idea. bb sprayer even better, of course. |
| 00:40 |
asciilifeform |
didntijustsaythis |
| 00:41 |
mircea_popescu |
oh nm, lol. |
| 00:41 |
asciilifeform |
btw ru sop was to stick 'ppsh' through the hole |
| 00:41 |
asciilifeform |
(for those unfamiliar, approximately 'tommygun') |
| 00:41 |
decimation |
yeah, but if ambush is done right - not much chance to shoot back |
| 00:42 |
decimation |
not like infantryman is plinking your shit with his luger |
| 00:42 |
lobbes |
!v assbot:lobbes.rate.lobbesbot.1:8563e8638d7c36011d64878ef0c573fd68e225b2e10143bcf181008d5da4205d |
| 00:42 |
assbot |
Successfully added a rating of 1 for lobbesbot with note: tis my bot |
| 00:42 |
mircea_popescu |
the "ambush done right" is this thing still awaiting embodiement irl. |
| 00:44 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: lol the infantry equiv. of a kamakaze raid |
| 00:44 |
asciilifeform |
banzai!! |
| 00:44 |
mats |
...lol |
| 00:45 |
decimation |
one wonders if that if the jap could get close enough to hide in bushes - why not bury actual anti-tank mine? |
| 00:45 |
asciilifeform |
mines can't run. |
| 00:46 |
asciilifeform |
(or scream 'banzai!') |
| 00:47 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 79559 @ 0.00044982 = 35.7872 BTC [+] |
| 00:47 |
mats |
i hear the japanese are pretty good at baseball |
| 00:47 |
mats |
grenades for the port? |
| 00:48 |
asciilifeform |
mats: afaik it's 100% post-occupation thing |
| 00:48 |
mats |
am joking |
| 00:48 |
decimation |
mats: they could toss those magnetic mines, seems much more practical |
| 00:49 |
decimation |
lol but apparently it too was impact-triggered |
| 00:49 |
decimation |
poor sops in wwii didn't have a proper timer for anything |
| 00:49 |
asciilifeform |
decimation: netting existed in ww2 |
| 00:49 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60300 @ 0.00044648 = 26.9227 BTC [-] |
| 00:50 |
decimation |
anti-tank netting? |
| 00:50 |
asciilifeform |
anti-grenade netting |
| 00:50 |
decimation |
ah |
| 00:51 |
decimation |
modern equiv is that 'slat fence' armor |
| 00:56 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: have you even done 'alsa' programming? |
| 00:56 |
decimation |
it's a shit api |
| 00:56 |
asciilifeform |
no and i don't intend to.. |
| 00:56 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-06-2015#1167023 << i've stopped clicking since these apparently began including cock |
| 00:56 |
assbot |
Logged on 18-06-2015 00:39:50; mircea_popescu: and in other news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/a0b21db7f61f3860f5eac1b1e51afd35/tumblr_nq3kdrsamT1sgfmbuo2_500.jpg |
| 00:57 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 178432 @ 0.00044636 = 79.6449 BTC [-] {2} |
| 00:58 |
BingoBoingo |
mats: Last "World Baseball Classic" the japs were knocked out by the Netherlands to my great profit. |
| 00:59 |
mats |
can confirm there is no cock in that one |
| 01:00 |
* |
asciilifeform actually surprised |
| 01:00 |
mats |
BingoBoingo: who usually wins these things? |
| 01:00 |
mats |
i mean, besides presumably USA |
| 01:01 |
BingoBoingo |
mats: Up until 2013 the Japs. Problem is the Japs have such a toxic culture towards starting pitchers. 2013 Dominican Republic won. Semifinal Part of the USA (Puerto Rico) beat the rest of USA |
| 01:02 |
mats |
ic |
| 01:04 |
BingoBoingo |
Latin American hitting is the best. Japanesep pitching technique is great. Just Japanese coaching techniques destroys arms. |
| 01:06 |
ben_vulpes |
<ascii_field> http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-June/000099.html << ah it warms my heart. as an aside, is theshooping in the message protocol actually necessary for anything? |
| 01:06 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1J5l3tQ ) |
| 01:14 |
ben_vulpes |
(ip passing, i mean to say) |
| 01:17 |
mod6 |
hanbot: I finally have a guide you can follow for an amd64 (x86-64) Gentoo install on physical hardware. This guide is actually part A (just the commands & notes) and part B (with examples from my own install process). trinque & I have both tested this independantly, and the steps got us to a working install. Hopefully you'll get the same result! You should probably just read through both before actually doing anything. Here are the URL's to |
| 01:19 |
mod6 |
Thanks for the help! |
| 01:19 |
mats |
where da URLs at |
| 01:19 |
mod6 |
Did it cut them off from my message? |
| 01:19 |
* |
mod6 looks at the log |
| 01:20 |
mod6 |
Ah yeah it did. Ok, one sec: |
| 01:20 |
mod6 |
http://thebitcoin.foundation/gentoo-stage3-amd64-uclibc-hardened-guide.txt |
| 01:20 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1J5lLak ) |
| 01:20 |
mod6 |
http://thebitcoin.foundation/gentoo-stage3-amd64-uclibc-hardened-guide-wFullExamples.txt |
| 01:20 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1J5lLqN ) |
| 01:21 |
mod6 |
Upon further successful testing of these guides, they'll be submitted to the mailing list, etc. |
| 01:23 |
mod6 |
hanbot: anyway, thanks again, let me know if you have any questions. |
| 01:24 |
mod6 |
(others are welcome to test these as well, ofc) |
| 01:28 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 148228 @ 0.0004442 = 65.8429 BTC [-] |
| 01:39 |
hanbot |
mod6 wunderbar! will be sure to pester as/if necessary. looks about a couple orders of magnitude slimmer than handbook at first glance, exciting |
| 01:41 |
* |
BingoBoingo confesses, my attraction to OpenBSD is for the easy configuration and handholding |
| 01:41 |
BingoBoingo |
!up diana_coman |
| 01:42 |
BingoBoingo |
!up Bi0 |
| 01:42 |
BingoBoingo |
!up _biO_ |
| 01:42 |
BingoBoingo |
!up chalbersma |
| 01:42 |
chalbersma |
What's up? |
| 01:43 |
_biO_ |
> BingoBoingo !up Bi0 |
| 01:43 |
BingoBoingo |
Not to much, saw you joined figured I'd offer voice. |
| 01:43 |
_biO_ |
i find that offensive |
| 01:44 |
BingoBoingo |
_biO_: Nigga/Bitch/WHitey Plase |
| 01:44 |
_biO_ |
just kidding, bimbobongo |
| 01:44 |
BingoBoingo |
Hey, i am transMehican, respect my lawn |
| 01:47 |
* |
BingoBoingo going to check my lawn and make sure it is coon free |
| 01:52 |
BingoBoingo |
Yup coon free yard |
| 01:52 |
danielpbarron |
;;later tell ahmed_ you should spend that litcoin to a different address; I sent you the private key over plain text |
| 01:52 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 01:55 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47987 @ 0.0004438 = 21.2966 BTC [-] {2} |
| 02:00 |
ben_vulpes |
danielpbarron: what kind of braindamage are youdealing with oday? |
| 02:01 |
danielpbarron |
i had a Litecoin "paper wallet" and wanted to sell into the price surge yesterday |
| 02:01 |
danielpbarron |
and couldn't find any web wallet or any service that would import a private key |
| |
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| 02:05 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5650 @ 0.0004442 = 2.5097 BTC [+] |
| 02:07 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23850 @ 0.0004442 = 10.5942 BTC [+] |
| 02:22 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform how do you shower ? |
| |
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| 02:34 |
danielpbarron |
>> The coinbase transaction in block zero cannot be spent. This is due to a quirk of the reference client implementation that would open the potential for a block chain fork if some nodes accepted the spend and others did not |
| 02:36 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53700 @ 0.00044201 = 23.7359 BTC [-] {2} |
| 02:44 |
danielpbarron |
>> A Unix timestamp recording when this block was created (Currently limited to dates before the year 2106!) |
| |
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| 02:44 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45100 @ 0.0004442 = 20.0334 BTC [+] |
| 02:49 |
copypaste |
interesting, cazalla |
| 02:50 |
funkenstein_ |
BTCBanana: funkenstein, hahah why you invested in a tech you don't understand go read the book by andreas |
| 02:52 |
danielpbarron |
>> All three problems are triggering real user complaints for the Android "Bitcoin Wallet" app which implements SPV mode. In order to make chain synchronization fast, cheap and able to run on older phones with limited memory we want to have remote peers throw away irrelevant transactions before sending them across the network. |
| 02:53 |
danielpbarron |
https://archive.is/BzqNQ#selection-933.318-933.643 |
| 02:53 |
assbot |
bips/bip-0037.mediawiki at master · bitcoin/bips · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1IlRhuU ) |
| 02:55 |
funkenstein_ |
hmm, not much proofreading there eh? |
| 02:58 |
danielpbarron |
they were for keeping things small before they were against it, because it was triggering SPVs |
| 03:01 |
danielpbarron |
the other quotes were from http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1166912 |
| 03:01 |
assbot |
Logged on 17-06-2015 23:28:48; ascii_field: shinohai: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Protocol_documentation#version |
| 03:05 |
danielpbarron |
would 0.5.3.1 reject a block as valid that spent the block zero coin base? would "XT" do the opposite? |
| 03:05 |
funkenstein_ |
?? |
| 03:06 |
danielpbarron |
er.. accept a block as valid or reject it |
| 03:06 |
felipelalli |
This news is sooo Qntra.net: http://g1.globo.com/mato-grosso/noticia/2015/06/idoso-de-sp-e-preso-em-mt-com-mais-de-20-barras-de-ouro-em-mochila.html (an old man was arrested just to transport gold in Brazil, lol) |
| 03:06 |
assbot |
G1 - Idoso de SP é preso em MT com mais de 20 barras de ouro em mochila - notícias em Mato Grosso ... ( http://bit.ly/1J5qUiI ) |
| 03:07 |
funkenstein_ |
nobody suggests to accept blocks that spend new coinbases, if that's your question |
| 03:07 |
danielpbarron |
apparently the first coin base "can't be spent" |
| 03:09 |
funkenstein_ |
oh you mean genesis, yeah |
| 03:09 |
danielpbarron |
does this mean there are not actually 21 million coins |
| |
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| 03:09 |
funkenstein_ |
well a lot more than that are inaccessible |
| 03:10 |
funkenstein_ |
unknown number of lost keys |
| 03:10 |
danielpbarron |
right but they /could/ be spent if not for the lost data |
| 03:10 |
funkenstein_ |
true |
| 03:11 |
funkenstein_ |
so yeah, 20,999,950 theoretically spendable by 2130 or whenever |
| 03:12 |
danielpbarron |
and the unix timestamp thing is a good example of when to hard fork |
| 03:12 |
danielpbarron |
unless it can roll over without invalidating things |
| 03:16 |
funkenstein_ |
it would be cool to reference genesis block as t=0 at that point |
| 03:17 |
danielpbarron |
can't do that. the timestamp is part of what makes a block valid |
| |
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| 03:17 |
funkenstein_ |
though people probably prefer sticking with Jan 1 1970 |
| 03:19 |
funkenstein_ |
timestamp could be "secons since last difficulty change" too, it doesn't really matter |
| 03:20 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49497 @ 0.00043653 = 21.6069 BTC [-] {2} |
| 03:21 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16803 @ 0.00043152 = 7.2508 BTC [-] |
| 03:21 |
danielpbarron |
>> Only the bitcoin releases 0.1.0 up to 0.1.5 which supported only Windows 2000 / Windows NT and Windows XP (perhaps Windows Vista). The next bitcoin release 0.2.0 from Dec 2009, nearly a year later, starts to support Linux and the community got more and more actively involved in the development. |
| 03:21 |
danielpbarron |
https://archive.is/1G9lX#selection-107.0-111.56 |
| 03:21 |
assbot |
Original Bitcoin client - Bitcoin Wiki ... ( http://bit.ly/1J5rWey ) |
| 03:22 |
funkenstein_ |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=16-06-2015#1165193 |
| 03:22 |
assbot |
Logged on 16-06-2015 18:27:51; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1164801 << ford went to work in a horsedrawn buggy for most of his life too. |
| 03:27 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 266 @ 0.00466944 = 1.2421 BTC [-] {3} |
| 03:38 |
cazalla |
felipelalli, if you're keen feel free to write it up yourself, i don't imagine BingoBoingo or mp would take issue with that |
| 03:40 |
felipelalli |
cazalla: thank you to encourage me! |
| 03:54 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33600 @ 0.0004397 = 14.7739 BTC [+] |
| 04:02 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 106100 @ 0.00044673 = 47.3981 BTC [+] {3} |
| 04:13 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52900 @ 0.00045158 = 23.8886 BTC [+] {3} |
| 04:21 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40427 @ 0.00045652 = 18.4557 BTC [+] {2} |
| 04:31 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26350 @ 0.00046031 = 12.1292 BTC [+] {2} |
| 04:38 |
shinohai |
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/goldman-sachs-introduces-curfews-for-interns--they-must-go-home-by-midnight-10327770.html |
| 04:38 |
assbot |
Goldman Sachs introduces curfews for interns – they must go home by midnight - Business News - Business - The Independent ... ( http://bit.ly/1Fo5kOu ) |
| 04:44 |
davout |
deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/3TE0E59.txt |
| 04:44 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1Fo5PrR ) |
| 04:44 |
deedbot- |
accepted: 1 |
| 04:47 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16350 @ 0.00046037 = 7.527 BTC [+] |
| 04:53 |
davout |
trinque: deedbot feature request, "View deeds by user X" on deedbot.org |
| 04:56 |
davout |
deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/332V4FF.txt |
| 04:56 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1L1TZeg ) |
| 04:56 |
deedbot- |
accepted: 1 |
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| 05:12 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20332 @ 0.00045891 = 9.3306 BTC [-] |
| 05:17 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11454 @ 0.00044501 = 5.0971 BTC [-] {2} |
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| 05:32 |
punkman |
http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/ these guys are rewriting wikipedia |
| 05:32 |
assbot |
Info:Main Page - New World Encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1HWA67y ) |
| 05:33 |
punkman |
hmm I guess it's not new, first time google spits it out at the top for me though |
| 05:43 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32700 @ 0.00046197 = 15.1064 BTC [+] {3} |
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| 06:11 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49250 @ 0.00044998 = 22.1615 BTC [-] |
| 06:19 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26300 @ 0.00045082 = 11.8566 BTC [+] {2} |
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| 06:48 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35350 @ 0.00044881 = 15.8654 BTC [-] |
| 07:00 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37624 @ 0.00045051 = 16.95 BTC [+] {2} |
| 07:09 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42780 @ 0.00043757 = 18.7192 BTC [-] {2} |
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| 07:34 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22926 @ 0.00045199 = 10.3623 BTC [+] |
| 07:35 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37650 @ 0.00046471 = 17.4963 BTC [+] |
| 07:39 |
kakobrekla |
http://airbusdefenceandspace.com/newsroom/news-and-features/airbus-defence-and-space-selected-to-partner-in-production-of-oneweb-satellite-constellation/ |
| 07:39 |
assbot |
Airbus Defence and Space Selected to Partner in Production of OneWeb Satellite Constellation ... ( http://bit.ly/1Gulqu5 ) |
| 07:41 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43155 @ 0.00046351 = 20.0028 BTC [-] {2} |
| 07:42 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23895 @ 0.00046578 = 11.1298 BTC [+] {2} |
| 07:48 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30047 @ 0.00045697 = 13.7306 BTC [-] |
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| 08:05 |
pete_dushenski |
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qfA2j300TN85O3DBm1bWC1-TFkq24M3Qp24YfKE5K7A/edit << anatomy of a string-along-scammer by adam_obrien |
| 08:05 |
assbot |
Robocon - an 18 month robocoin experience. $25k later, no machine - Google Docs ... ( http://bit.ly/1GumPRo ) |
| 08:05 |
pete_dushenski |
!s jordan kelley |
| 08:05 |
assbot |
0 results for 'jordan kelley' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=jordan+kelley |
| 08:05 |
pete_dushenski |
fo realz ? |
| 08:05 |
pete_dushenski |
well, he's the robocoin 'bitcoin atm' dude |
| 08:06 |
pete_dushenski |
made a big splash, first in vancouver, about 1.5 years ago. |
| 08:08 |
pete_dushenski |
shock, awe, kelley is basically 'bfl' for 'atms' |
| 08:10 |
pete_dushenski |
in other news, i finally installed openbsd on my edgerouter ! |
| 08:11 |
pete_dushenski |
it took ubuntu to make it happen, which i hadn't used before |
| 08:11 |
pete_dushenski |
14.04 or something |
| 08:11 |
pete_dushenski |
couldn't believe how much it *looked* like osx |
| 08:12 |
pete_dushenski |
just... less smooth in operation |
| 08:18 |
pete_dushenski |
http://hypecurioso.com/explorador-descobre-os-restos-tristes-do-programa-espacial-sovietico/ << the size and scale of the space shuttle in these pictures, representing the combined and concerted efforts of thousands of the world's best minds, is an engineering feat that's more than a bit moving. |
| 08:19 |
assbot |
Explorador descobre os restos tristes do programa espacial soviético ... ( http://bit.ly/1GunG4x ) |
| 08:19 |
pete_dushenski |
everything's just so beautifully fit for use. |
| 08:22 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31200 @ 0.00046518 = 14.5136 BTC [+] |
| 08:23 |
pete_dushenski |
^soyuz at baikonur cosmodrome in kazakhstan, ftr |
| 08:25 |
pete_dushenski |
sorry, 'buran', not soyuz |
| 08:26 |
pete_dushenski |
not to be confused with http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=08-02-2015#1012536 |
| 08:26 |
assbot |
Logged on 08-02-2015 05:55:37; asciilifeform: to a lesser extent also famous are other vintage home appliances, like 'buran' vacuum cleaner - http://kartmen.ru/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/20131126_162658.jpg |
| 08:28 |
pete_dushenski |
"When faced with the requirement to make a 200mt thrust LOX/LH2 engine, in tandem with reusability, the Soviets decided to ditch the reusable requirement." |
| 08:28 |
pete_dushenski |
"The end result was a powerhouse known as the Energia LV – which used four strap-on boosters, each powered by a four-chamber RD-170 engine burning with kerosene/LOX, and a central core stage with four single-chamber RD-0120 (11D122) engines fueled with liquid hydrogen/LOX" |
| 08:31 |
pete_dushenski |
"The immense power of the Energia provided a capacity to place about 100 tonnes in Low Earth Orbit (LEO), up to 20 t to the geostationary orbit (GEO) and up to 32 t to a translunar trajectory." |
| 08:32 |
pete_dushenski |
"Buran hitched the ride to space on the side of the Energia, only using her own two engines – the equivalent of the shuttle’s Orbital Maneuvering System (OMS) using GOX/Kerosene propellant – for a 66.7 m/s burn to reach a final the orbit of 251 km x 263 km." |
| 08:32 |
pete_dushenski |
^for the rocketistas. |
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| 08:52 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5316 @ 0.00046258 = 2.4591 BTC [-] |
| 08:57 |
pete_dushenski |
!up referredbyloper |
| 08:57 |
pete_dushenski |
howdy |
| 08:58 |
mircea_popescu |
how goes |
| 08:59 |
pete_dushenski |
up at the crack of dawn this morn, thought it was 8am, it was 5:30 |
| 08:59 |
mircea_popescu |
so lick her out. |
| 09:00 |
pete_dushenski |
is that even kosher ? |
| 09:00 |
pete_dushenski |
i kid, i kid. |
| 09:00 |
pete_dushenski |
though i did once wonder this. |
| 09:00 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 116400 @ 0.00046254 = 53.8397 BTC [-] {2} |
| 09:01 |
mircea_popescu |
cunt is kosher afaik. |
| 09:01 |
pete_dushenski |
myup. |
| 09:01 |
pete_dushenski |
but not if there's hare. |
| 09:08 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26900 @ 0.00046037 = 12.384 BTC [-] {2} |
| 09:16 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 88401 @ 0.00045697 = 40.3966 BTC [-] |
| 09:17 |
mod6 |
<+hanbot> mod6 wunderbar! will be sure to pester as/if necessary. looks about a couple orders of magnitude slimmer than handbook at first glance, exciting << ah thx! yeah, just let me know if you run into any problems/questions. |
| 09:19 |
jurov |
gotta try it too |
| 09:29 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-06-2015#1167372 << with water. |
| 09:29 |
assbot |
Logged on 18-06-2015 06:22:46; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform how do you shower ? |
| 09:29 |
asciilifeform |
or did i misunderstand this question |
| 09:29 |
mircea_popescu |
but there is a penis ? |
| 09:29 |
asciilifeform |
it doesn't unscrew, no |
| 09:31 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65600 @ 0.00046459 = 30.4771 BTC [+] {3} |
| 09:31 |
mircea_popescu |
how is this resolved ? |
| 09:32 |
asciilifeform |
the original observation was about the 'susprises' in the pr0n links, rather than penii per se |
| 09:32 |
asciilifeform |
*surprise |
| 09:32 |
asciilifeform |
sorta like, i have nothing against auto tyres, and in fact own five, but i don't want one for dinner |
| 09:33 |
mircea_popescu |
but the value of pornography is novelty rather than function |
| 09:33 |
asciilifeform |
and picture if you were served a hot, steaming tyre instead of, e.g., pie |
| 09:33 |
mircea_popescu |
you don't actually fuck the screen |
| 09:33 |
mircea_popescu |
and also, i am writing like the best article ever. |
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| 09:34 |
asciilifeform |
i personally swing in the direction where everything on the screen has to be recognizably woman |
| 09:34 |
asciilifeform |
but that's just me. |
| 09:35 |
* |
asciilifeform doesn't actually spend much time with pr0n, now or historically - for approximately same reason why he doesn't look at pictures of food |
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| 09:37 |
mircea_popescu |
i thought you ordered everything online. |
| 09:37 |
mircea_popescu |
text listings ? "try our delicious lasagna" |
| 09:37 |
asciilifeform |
not food |
| 09:37 |
asciilifeform |
probably don't even want to contemplate what 'online food' gets you here. |
| 09:38 |
mircea_popescu |
didn't you link some pics of soviet food and declare they made you drool a little ago ? |
| 09:38 |
asciilifeform |
aha. those - yes |
| 09:38 |
mircea_popescu |
so you do actually look at pictures of food. |
| 09:38 |
mircea_popescu |
all hail me, the grand lord inquisitioner. |
| 09:38 |
asciilifeform |
and at pr0n also. when encountered in the wild, linked |
| 09:38 |
asciilifeform |
but won't go out to look for it |
| 09:39 |
asciilifeform |
because a) get no work done b) still hungry at the end. |
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| 09:39 |
mircea_popescu |
myeah. |
| 09:41 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-06-2015#1167369 << litecoind is no harder to set up than bitcoind |
| 09:41 |
assbot |
Logged on 18-06-2015 06:01:19; danielpbarron: and couldn't find any web wallet or any service that would import a private key |
| 09:41 |
asciilifeform |
incidentally, has anyone bothered to study litecoin sources and note, e.g., whether it 'gavinized' in the wake of bitcoin, and how ? |
| 09:42 |
asciilifeform |
what is it like, internally |
| 09:42 |
asciilifeform |
i personally can't be arsed to do this |
| 09:42 |
mircea_popescu |
worse. |
| 09:42 |
mircea_popescu |
and since inception |
| 09:42 |
shinohai |
Nearly all coins from the shitclone era connect to that same irc server |
| 09:42 |
punkman |
they still merge from bitcoin source |
| 09:43 |
asciilifeform |
well yes, 'worse since inception' in the documented ways |
| 09:43 |
asciilifeform |
punkman: aha! |
| 09:43 |
asciilifeform |
punkman: so did it abandon proper verification? does it 'header-first' ? |
| 09:43 |
wyrdmantis |
FYI: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.bitcoin.devel/8377/focus=8382 |
| 09:43 |
assbot |
Gmane Loom ... ( http://bit.ly/1G6TAlc ) |
| 09:44 |
asciilifeform |
^ this lulzatron has been going for at least a week. hearn openly advocates 'gavin for fuhrer' notion |
| 09:45 |
mircea_popescu |
and why wouldn't he. |
| 09:45 |
punkman |
asciilifeform: they seem to be merging bitcoin 0.10 so I'm guessing yes |
| 09:46 |
asciilifeform |
very convenient that the idiot fork is breathing its last just as therealbitcoin is approaching something like usable status |
| 09:47 |
asciilifeform |
(re: the latter: once dns is out, and import/export-privkey are in, i will be moving my personal nodes to therealbitcoin...) |
| 09:48 |
mircea_popescu |
reasonabru |
| 09:48 |
pete_dushenski |
http://business.financialpost.com/fp-comment/jack-m-mintz-albertas-bad-plays << o hey mintz reads contravex whowouldathunkit |
| 09:48 |
assbot |
Jack M. Mintz: Alberta’s bad plays | Financial Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1G6UM88 ) |
| 09:49 |
asciilifeform |
gavin: sits in car, makes motions, 'vroom, vroom' hearn: 'steal it already' |
| 09:49 |
pete_dushenski |
gavin: 'but this is more fun!' |
| 09:49 |
mircea_popescu |
lmao |
| 09:49 |
mircea_popescu |
!b 3 |
| 09:49 |
assbot |
Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0A1PD54.txt ) |
| 09:50 |
pete_dushenski |
:) |
| 09:51 |
pete_dushenski |
!up adam_obrien |
| 09:51 |
pete_dushenski |
hey man ! |
| 09:51 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36649 @ 0.00046842 = 17.1671 BTC [+] {2} |
| 09:52 |
pete_dushenski |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-06-2015#1167508 << porn's really more like recipes than food |
| 09:52 |
assbot |
Logged on 18-06-2015 13:35:43; *: asciilifeform doesn't actually spend much time with pr0n, now or historically - for approximately same reason why he doesn't look at pictures of food |
| 09:52 |
adam_obrien |
Thanks @pete_dushenski |
| 09:53 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, porn has at least the very important social function that it models female behaviour. |
| 09:53 |
asciilifeform |
it does ?!! |
| 09:53 |
mircea_popescu |
or, more properly stated : that it offers a usable, cheap counterbalance to the female community behaviour. |
| 09:53 |
asciilifeform |
this - sure |
| 09:53 |
mircea_popescu |
that thing where they gang together to try and force the male hand. |
| 09:53 |
pete_dushenski |
adam_obrien: np, and no need to use '@' ;) |
| 09:54 |
adam_obrien |
Haha - still getting used to IRC over Twitter!! AUA on reddit with Robocoin operators at 1pm EST if anyone here is interested. |
| 09:54 |
mircea_popescu |
adam_obrien the correct way to use this is exactly backwards : tell would be whoevers on twitter to get into the wot. |
| 09:55 |
* |
wyrdmantis prepares popcorn |
| 09:55 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32143 @ 0.00044619 = 14.3419 BTC [-] |
| 09:55 |
mircea_popescu |
the interest, here or anywhere, for the deeds of anyone pretending to be in cryptocurrency who doesn't meet the minimum bar of competency for that field is not unlike the interest we show scientists that can't add. "will there be nudity ?" |
| 09:56 |
pete_dushenski |
1, 2, 3, 4... nudity ! |
| 09:58 |
* |
pete_dushenski recalls bus ad for 'did you know that 1/5 people has genital herpes ?' as a young man, teasing 5th kid in line that he was it. because math. |
| 09:58 |
mircea_popescu |
such idiocy those ads. |
| 09:58 |
pete_dushenski |
something along the lines of '1, 2, 3, 4, jacob has genital herpes !' |
| 09:58 |
asciilifeform |
l0l and what of all the folks with arm and leg herpes |
| 09:59 |
asciilifeform |
they get no press |
| 09:59 |
mircea_popescu |
i dunno why epidemiology is so hard to follow, but let's add two and two together. two one : the virus is not a new introduction. two two : the virus is stable aroun 16-18% infections. |
| 09:59 |
mircea_popescu |
what does this mean ? |
| 09:59 |
pete_dushenski |
asciilifeform: because porn |
| 09:59 |
mircea_popescu |
a) that infection is unrelated to exposure in any form ; b) that "fighting" pointless "battles" is the best way to waste public money in relative personal safety ; c) canada is broadly iliterate |
| 10:00 |
pete_dushenski |
damn, adam_obrien just left... was going to ask what 'aua' is as opposed to 'ama', and if it's 'us', who that includes. ah well. |
| 10:01 |
mircea_popescu |
if you think about it, most newly introduced (ie, no equilibrium reached yet) infections go from 16% to 100% in two days |
| 10:01 |
asciilifeform |
a) isn't quite a complete description. in the folks having the particular immune quirk which lets the thing blow up into red skin etc., exposure can plant it down in new places (thing lives in nearest nerve) |
| 10:01 |
mircea_popescu |
if it's been 16% for a week, you don't get it by fucking herpetic whores bareback, you get it from being genetically broken in that way |
| 10:02 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform aha. |
| 10:03 |
asciilifeform |
my understanding is that a sufferer of, e.g., mouth herpes, could actually infect himself with penile herpes if he were sufficiently.. flexible |
| 10:04 |
pete_dushenski |
flexible, or like the mythical marilyn manson, missing lower ribs |
| 10:04 |
mircea_popescu |
except pretty much everyone can be made to develop mouth herpes by stressing the liver in a particular manner |
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| 10:04 |
pete_dushenski |
an 'urban myth |
| 10:05 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: what's the liver to do with it ? |
| 10:05 |
mircea_popescu |
i imagine some precursor protein for the supression ? |
| 10:05 |
asciilifeform |
and why mouth ? |
| 10:05 |
mircea_popescu |
cause for some reason it's where it mostly manifests, esp in young people. |
| 10:08 |
pete_dushenski |
probably like infected ant who crawls to top of plant to be eaten by herbivore |
| 10:08 |
mircea_popescu |
even leaving aside the "we've arbitrarily divided this virus up into 3 no wait 7 no wait 16 no wait nm groups", the notion that "i don't have herpes" is to be translated as "i read very little and understand even less". |
| 10:08 |
pete_dushenski |
mouth is where the contact is with potential hosts |
| 10:08 |
mircea_popescu |
this is possible. |
| 10:08 |
asciilifeform |
my understanding is that this virus does not lodge very far from original contact. |
| 10:09 |
mircea_popescu |
it's not too well understood what it does. but trivially : you don't have monolaterality in observed cases |
| 10:09 |
mircea_popescu |
(ie, there's no "upper lip left side" herpes) |
| 10:10 |
mircea_popescu |
if you look at the nerves, there's really very little contact / very good separation between the strands |
| 10:10 |
mircea_popescu |
so how does it jump from the right to the left trigeminus ? |
| 10:10 |
asciilifeform |
aha. like cabling. |
| 10:10 |
mircea_popescu |
aha. |
| 10:11 |
pete_dushenski |
so infection starts monolaterally and spreads within host (via saliva) to become bilateral ? |
| 10:12 |
pete_dushenski |
sounds reasonable. |
| 10:12 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform also, re the liver stressing ; herpes C generates liver disease all the way to cirhosis. |
| 10:12 |
mircea_popescu |
but in 80% ish of alcoholics and in 3% ish of normal people. |
| 10:12 |
mircea_popescu |
how about that! |
| 10:12 |
mircea_popescu |
pete_dushenski your saliva is eventually shat out, but little arse herpes described. |
| 10:13 |
pete_dushenski |
not that the ass is nerveless, but there's certainly a much lower density there |
| 10:13 |
mircea_popescu |
(the one medically notable thing about alcoholics is that their liver is shot) |
| 10:13 |
mircea_popescu |
pete_dushenski less than what ? about on par with mouth and labia/penis head. |
| 10:14 |
pete_dushenski |
mircea_popescu: ah, was going to say mouth. i may well be mistaken |
| 10:25 |
pete_dushenski |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-06-2015#1167505 << i'm predicting a lengthy diatribe today |
| 10:25 |
assbot |
Logged on 18-06-2015 13:33:47; mircea_popescu: and also, i am writing like the best article ever. |
| 10:30 |
asciilifeform |
ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, kakobrekla, jurov, other folks with serious servers - who wants to volunteer for node duty ? |
| 10:31 |
asciilifeform |
mod6 has the resource consumption data on the apparatus in question (assuming mod6 and ben_vulpes decide to ratify the requisite patches which added up to that sample) |
| 10:31 |
mircea_popescu |
im definitely going to run a few. |
| 10:32 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform do you think it feasible to run one on nsa servers ? |
| 10:32 |
asciilifeform |
incidentally, i've asked before and will ask again now - who has read my patches ? |
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| 10:32 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: it most certainly is. though it will get squeezed when i roll out the multicore phuctoratron |
| 10:32 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform i have read in the sense of moved my eyes over them and decyphered the letters. i have not read in the sense i understand this sufficiently. |
| 10:32 |
asciilifeform |
good thing it mostly consists of minus signs. |
| 10:33 |
mircea_popescu |
tracherous thing. |
| 10:33 |
asciilifeform |
if you grep for '+' at linestarts you'll get what i actually ~added~ |
| 10:33 |
mircea_popescu |
i know how diffs work omg |
| 10:33 |
asciilifeform |
(summary: not much) |
| 10:33 |
asciilifeform |
^ pointing out for n00bs mainly |
| 10:33 |
asciilifeform |
rather than mircea_popescu & co |
| 10:34 |
* |
asciilifeform is sorta imagining a 'studio audience' of folks who might actually consider using 0.5.3.next on the battlefield, pending some actual clarification of wtf we did to it |
| 10:35 |
* |
lobbes is a member of said audience |
| 10:35 |
asciilifeform |
there we go |
| 10:36 |
pete_dushenski |
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-06-18/ex-u-s-agent-charged-with-pocketing-bitcoins-reaches-plea-deal << shaun bridges (not to be confoozed with carl mark force) pleads guilty to silk road thefts |
| 10:36 |
assbot |
Ex-U.S. Agent Charged With Bitcoin Theft to Plead Guilty - Bloomberg Business ... ( http://bit.ly/1LhqDJS ) |
| 10:37 |
asciilifeform |
my next experiment re: 0.5.3 is to be a complete amputation of dns (the sequence of 'amputator' patches starting with 'dns seeds' and continuing with yesterday's two is in place for this) |
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| 10:37 |
asciilifeform |
then will see what obstacle, if any, remains to a static+uclibc build. |
| 10:37 |
asciilifeform |
if this can be had, result will become part of a 'buildroot' for pogo with swap-enabled. |
| 10:38 |
asciilifeform |
(now that we appear to have bounded memory footprint, adding swap is no longer 'slowing death' but 'slow life') |
| 10:39 |
asciilifeform |
caveat: i cannot now say ~when~ i will do this experiment. |
| 10:39 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39750 @ 0.00046916 = 18.6491 BTC [+] {3} |
| 10:39 |
asciilifeform |
so if anyone would like to do it first, please go, do. |
| 10:40 |
mircea_popescu |
aha. |
| 10:42 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19800 @ 0.00047031 = 9.3121 BTC [+] |
| 10:44 |
thestringpuller |
asciilifeform: buildroot? |
| 10:45 |
asciilifeform |
aha |
| 10:45 |
asciilifeform |
!s buildroot |
| 10:45 |
assbot |
90 results for 'buildroot' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=buildroot |
| 10:45 |
thestringpuller |
ty |
| 10:45 |
asciilifeform |
see also therealbitcoin mailinglist |
| 10:45 |
asciilifeform |
thestringpuller: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev |
| 10:46 |
* |
asciilifeform bbl |
| 10:48 |
jurov |
i planned to look to the patches.. then eulora came out |
| 10:49 |
mircea_popescu |
oops. |
| 10:51 |
punkman |
http://i.imgur.com/FAv6VdV.png |
| 10:51 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1SrBNNt ) |
| 10:52 |
jurov |
orly, google did it? |
| 10:56 |
fluffypony |
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/lego-promoting-unrealistic-body-image-2015061899397 |
| 10:56 |
assbot |
Lego ‘promoting unrealistic body image’ ... ( http://bit.ly/1Lhthzk ) |
| 10:57 |
* |
pete_dushenski goes to stock up on 'pre-fairness' legos |
| 10:58 |
* |
pete_dushenski comes back, sees that fluffypony was joking. breathes sweet sigh of relief. |
| 10:59 |
fluffypony |
:-P |
| 10:59 |
pete_dushenski |
not that a healthy stash of lego would hurt |
| 11:00 |
jurov |
only if you walk barefoot |
| 11:08 |
mircea_popescu |
o yeah, used to get my mother all the time. |
| 11:08 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32500 @ 0.0004582 = 14.8915 BTC [-] {2} |
| 11:13 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00047031 = 5.1734 BTC [+] |
| 11:14 |
funkenstein_ |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-06-2015#1167519 <-- c) missed a chance to exercise imagination (use it or lose it) |
| 11:14 |
assbot |
Logged on 18-06-2015 13:39:05; asciilifeform: because a) get no work done b) still hungry at the end. |
| 11:18 |
scoopbot_revived |
The problem of the state. http://trilema.com/2015/the-problem-of-the-state/ |
| 11:21 |
funkenstein_ |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-06-2015#1167519 <-- amputations you mean? |
| 11:21 |
assbot |
Logged on 18-06-2015 13:39:05; asciilifeform: because a) get no work done b) still hungry at the end. |
| 11:21 |
funkenstein_ |
whoops wrong paste |
| 11:21 |
thestringpuller |
pete_dushenski: the problem i have with legos is construction organization of bigger sets. I have a 10k+ piece star destroyer set and if I stop working on it I always forget the step i was left. |
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| 11:21 |
funkenstein_ |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-06-2015#1167616 <-- amputations you mean? |
| 11:21 |
assbot |
Logged on 18-06-2015 14:32:03; asciilifeform: incidentally, i've asked before and will ask again now - who has read my patches ? |
| 11:24 |
pete_dushenski |
thestringpuller: 10k piece ?! sweet baby jeebus that a big one. |
| 11:24 |
pete_dushenski |
but hey, lego isn't so different from any other organisation : it scales poorly |
| 11:25 |
* |
mircea_popescu has absolutely never followed the instruction |
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| 11:26 |
mircea_popescu |
who the fuck cares what some jerk thought he would do if he had your toy ? |
| 11:26 |
mircea_popescu |
cue kid come visiting, "hey, is that the car ???" pointing at a yellow futuristic looking bridge with some wheels attached |
| 11:27 |
pete_dushenski |
is that kid gavin ? |
| 11:27 |
thestringpuller |
pete_dushenski: nvm 3k was normal star destroyer 8k for super star destroyer |
| 11:27 |
mircea_popescu |
lol no, razvan |
| 11:29 |
pete_dushenski |
the permutations and combinations that even 3k pieces would give you is pretty awe inspiring |
| 11:29 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7037 @ 0.00047031 = 3.3096 BTC [+] |
| 11:29 |
mircea_popescu |
heh apparently it doesn't exist anymore. |
| 11:29 |
pete_dushenski |
moral being : don't blame the mice who made the doodles |
| 11:30 |
pete_dushenski |
lego is that one toy that works like it says it will on the box |
| 11:30 |
pete_dushenski |
nearly indestructible pieces, endless mixable and matchable between sets |
| 11:31 |
pete_dushenski |
give alf a decade or two and we'll have fpga's this useable |
| 11:31 |
pete_dushenski |
*endlessly |
| 11:31 |
mircea_popescu |
i'd give him anything else rather than decades. |
| 11:32 |
pete_dushenski |
lol how about butan rocket |
| 11:32 |
mircea_popescu |
too much like a penis. |
| 11:33 |
pete_dushenski |
too many nerve endings eh |
| 11:34 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10397 @ 0.0004499 = 4.6776 BTC [-] {2} |
| 11:38 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13903 @ 0.00043725 = 6.0791 BTC [-] |
| 11:42 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43300 @ 0.00043548 = 18.8563 BTC [-] {2} |
| 11:51 |
funkenstein_ |
so it will be with a whimper, and not with a bang then? |
| 11:53 |
mircea_popescu |
!up nanashi_ |
| 11:53 |
nanashi_ |
Could I make an inquiry about BitBet's Freeseas Bet? The first three of the last four bets were "No" bets, so they should not be refunded (though it seems it's too late...). |
| 11:55 |
mircea_popescu |
link ? |
| 11:55 |
nanashi_ |
https://bitbet.us/bet/1155/freeseas-inc-nasdaq-free-will-trade-at-least-0-10/ |
| 11:55 |
assbot |
BitBet - FreeSeas INC, NASDAQ:FREE, will trade at least 0.10 USD per share before 1st July 2015. :: 3.26 B (44%) on Yes, 4.19 B (56%) on No | closed 10 hours 21 minutes ago ... ( http://bit.ly/1J62PZ7 ) |
| 11:57 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00043452 = 5.6922 BTC [-] {2} |
| 11:57 |
nanashi_ |
Should I speak at "mircea_popescu tab" (which is (I think) more private?) |
| 11:57 |
mircea_popescu |
i do not know you. we can't talk privately for this reason. |
| 11:58 |
nanashi_ |
ok. |
| 12:01 |
nanashi_ |
Am I talking to a right person (about Freeseas bet inquiry), mircea_popescu? |
| 12:01 |
mircea_popescu |
nanashi_ havin' it looked into, a sec. |
| 12:04 |
pete_dushenski |
;;ticker |
| 12:04 |
gribble |
Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 250.56, Best ask: 250.58, Bid-ask spread: 0.02000, Last trade: 250.51, 24 hour volume: 30185.22252203, 24 hour low: 243.0, 24 hour high: 253.7, 24 hour vwap: None |
| 12:06 |
nanashi_ |
I am "143Cz" better. I know I lost the bet, but I'm surprised the later three bets (which were all "No") were refunded (which they should not). |
| 12:10 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13903 @ 0.00045034 = 6.2611 BTC [+] |
| 12:12 |
mircea_popescu |
myeah. mod dropped teh ball, an' as a result im out a coupla bitcoins now. |
| 12:12 |
mircea_popescu |
nanashi_ thanks for pointing it out. |
| 12:12 |
nanashi_ |
you're welcome... |
| 12:16 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00045034 = 5.4941 BTC [+] |
| 12:17 |
nanashi_ |
I was envious of the later three "No" betters (refunded), I'm sorry!! |
| 12:18 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
| 12:18 |
scoopbot_revived |
Shaun Bridges Pleads Guilty to Silk Road Theft http://qntra.net/2015/06/shaun-bridges-pleads-guilty-to-silk-road-theft/ |
| 12:21 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19778 @ 0.00045043 = 8.9086 BTC [+] |
| 12:21 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-06-2015#1167375 << myeah, the workaround on this thing should be interesting |
| 12:21 |
assbot |
Logged on 18-06-2015 06:44:08; danielpbarron: >> A Unix timestamp recording when this block was created (Currently limited to dates before the year 2106!) |
| 12:21 |
mircea_popescu |
but for the record, no hard fork proposal can be seriously considered that fails to include a fix for such scatteromobilia throughout the codebase. |
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| 12:22 |
mircea_popescu |
and in no case can people who aren't even aware of this hard requirement for hard forks be regarded as anything but the bumbling imbeciles discussed in http://trilema.com/2015/lets-address-some-of-the-more-common-pseudo-arguments-raised-by-the-very-stupid-people-that-like-the-gavin-scamcoin-proposal/ entry i. |
| 12:22 |
assbot |
Let's address some of the more common pseudo-arguments raised by the very stupid people that like the Gavin scamcoin proposal on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1J65Qsf ) |
| 12:25 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-06-2015#1167394 << it wasn't ever 21 precisely, the asymptote is somewhat under that. |
| 12:25 |
assbot |
Logged on 18-06-2015 07:09:26; danielpbarron: does this mean there are not actually 21 million coins |
| 12:26 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-06-2015#1167403 << there's no reason to stick with the old unix time convention. bitcoin time, starts at block 0. |
| 12:26 |
assbot |
Logged on 18-06-2015 07:17:21; danielpbarron: can't do that. the timestamp is part of what makes a block valid |
| 12:26 |
mircea_popescu |
everyone can just throw out their old computers. not like they're useful or anything. |
| 12:27 |
danielpbarron |
sure, but block zero would still have the old unix time stamp in it, or else it wouldn't be valid, right? |
| 12:29 |
mircea_popescu |
if you hardfork you hardfork. |
| 12:30 |
jurov |
that would mean bitcoin's -1th block was at 1970-01-01 :D |
| 12:30 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
| 12:30 |
mircea_popescu |
a hard fork is this enchanted moment when you borrow the heavenly forge and ... well... rewrite the rules. |
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| 12:31 |
mircea_popescu |
which is why it's best left alone. |
| 12:35 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56400 @ 0.00045114 = 25.4443 BTC [+] {2} |
| 12:36 |
mod6 |
<+asciilifeform> ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, kakobrekla, jurov, other folks with serious servers - who wants to volunteer for node duty ? << I think the Foundation will have one, and I'll run a separate one of my own I'm sure. |
| 12:36 |
mircea_popescu |
im definitely going to run a few, just as soon as we're in a position to actually package one |
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| 12:36 |
mircea_popescu |
will sign their ips too. |
| 12:37 |
mod6 |
cool! |
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~ 16 minutes ~ |
| 12:53 |
mats |
https://youtu.be/0pebP891V0c |
| 12:53 |
assbot |
A reimplementation of NetBSD using a MicroKernel - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1K0LO19 ) |
| 12:56 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13822 @ 0.00045401 = 6.2753 BTC [+] |
| 12:59 |
BingoBoingo |
<mircea_popescu> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-06-2015#1167375 << myeah, the workaround on this thing should be interesting << Shouldn't it just roll over, no hardfork required? |
| 12:59 |
assbot |
Logged on 18-06-2015 06:44:08; danielpbarron: >> A Unix timestamp recording when this block was created (Currently limited to dates before the year 2106!) |
| 13:05 |
BingoBoingo |
By combining 32 bit time and blockheight a hardford should be entirely unneccessary to deal with this. Can be handled in the bitcoin daemon |
| 13:10 |
jurov |
what if... someone mines such a hash that it loops back to genesis block? |
| 13:14 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20600 @ 0.00046147 = 9.5063 BTC [+] |
| 13:15 |
danielpbarron |
the timestamp is just used to figured out the difficulty |
| 13:15 |
danielpbarron |
i don't think it would invalidate things if two blocks had the same timestamp |
| 13:15 |
danielpbarron |
afaik, it has come close to happening already |
| 13:16 |
danielpbarron |
and it's a somewhat frequent occurence for the blocks to get mined "out of order" where the higher block height has a lower timestamp |
| 13:19 |
punkman |
why is timestamp used for difficulty? |
| 13:20 |
punkman |
oh never mind |
| 13:23 |
asciilifeform |
!up ascii_field |
| 13:23 |
ascii_field |
;;later tell mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2015/the-problem-of-the-state << endnote iii 'sorely equipped' --> 'sorely underequipped' ? |
| 13:23 |
assbot |
The problem of the state. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1er74Sd ) |
| 13:23 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 13:27 |
ascii_field |
and http://trilema.com/2015/the-problem-of-the-state/#comment-114562 |
| 13:27 |
assbot |
The problem of the state. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Rd2BhZ ) |
| 13:30 |
ascii_field |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-06-2015#1167674 << soviet lego clone did not come with book |
| 13:30 |
assbot |
Logged on 18-06-2015 15:25:48; *: mircea_popescu has absolutely never followed the instruction |
| 13:30 |
ascii_field |
afaik |
| 13:33 |
ascii_field |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-06-2015#1167721 << at what level of 'hardness' does it even make sense to retain the original blockchain, as opposed to full-bore altcoin slugfest ? |
| 13:33 |
assbot |
Logged on 18-06-2015 16:21:50; mircea_popescu: but for the record, no hard fork proposal can be seriously considered that fails to include a fix for such scatteromobilia throughout the codebase. |
| 13:34 |
ascii_field |
*at what level does it no longer |
| 13:40 |
ascii_field |
in fact, even if nothing is visibly changed, a sane rewrite is in fact arguably a hard fork |
| 13:40 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13800 @ 0.00046147 = 6.3683 BTC [+] |
| 13:40 |
ascii_field |
(see the old thread re: a hypothetical ada/spark bitcoind) |
| 13:42 |
mats |
three cheers for open sores |
| 13:43 |
ascii_field |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-06-2015#1167733 << doing this sanely - which is to say, more or less precisely as i described - is neither quick, nor especially pleasant, nor remunerative. i fail to see why it would ever happen at all... |
| 13:43 |
assbot |
Logged on 18-06-2015 16:30:55; mircea_popescu: a hard fork is this enchanted moment when you borrow the heavenly forge and ... well... rewrite the rules. |
| 13:45 |
ascii_field |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-06-2015#1167737 << if i omitted anything from the list of 'what remains' ( http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-06-2015#1167631 ), everyone is invited to comment... |
| 13:45 |
assbot |
Logged on 18-06-2015 16:36:33; mircea_popescu: im definitely going to run a few, just as soon as we're in a position to actually package one |
| 13:45 |
assbot |
Logged on 18-06-2015 14:37:07; asciilifeform: my next experiment re: 0.5.3 is to be a complete amputation of dns (the sequence of 'amputator' patches starting with 'dns seeds' and continuing with yesterday's two is in place for this) |
| 13:55 |
BingoBoingo |
!up ascii_field |
| 13:56 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26400 @ 0.00046373 = 12.2425 BTC [+] {2} |
| 14:00 |
mats |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-WQ6lgZ9Aw |
| 14:00 |
assbot |
Tank with GoPro ambush in Syrian War battle field - Street fighting scene MBT - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1MP8yAa ) |
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~ 24 minutes ~ |
| 14:25 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 90200 @ 0.00045953 = 41.4496 BTC [-] {3} |
| 14:28 |
diametric |
mircea_popescu: around? |
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~ 23 minutes ~ |
| 14:51 |
danielpbarron |
!up referredbyqntra |
| 14:52 |
diametric |
;;later tell mircea_popescu my bitcoin isp server and ikvm went offline about 15 minutes ago. wondering if its just an outage or something else going on. |
| 14:52 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 14:55 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20322 @ 0.00045801 = 9.3077 BTC [-] |
| 15:04 |
mircea_popescu |
diametric aite looking into it. |
| 15:04 |
diametric |
cool thanks |
| 15:05 |
mircea_popescu |
ascii_field aye. |
| 15:06 |
mircea_popescu |
diametric apparently you're getting ~14gbps worth of random packets. it's going to come back up in the coming hours as it's being mitigated. |
| 15:07 |
diametric |
whoa |
| 15:07 |
diametric |
yay for ddos |
| 15:07 |
diametric |
possible to get a sample capture? |
| 15:07 |
mircea_popescu |
ima see. |
| 15:11 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15200 @ 0.00045034 = 6.8452 BTC [-] |
| 15:12 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo it's unlikely it'll roll over without complaint. for one thing what's 0xFFFF - 0x0000 ? is it < 10 ? |
| 15:12 |
asciilifeform |
!up ascii_field |
| 15:13 |
BingoBoingo |
as the software is now it will likely complain, but this seems like something to be fixed in the software client rather than the block format |
| 15:13 |
ascii_field |
gotta love folks who write proggies using fixint time after 'y2k' |
| 15:14 |
mircea_popescu |
<ascii_field> at what level of 'hardness' does it even make sense to retain the original blockchain, as opposed to full-bore altcoin slugfest ? << the fact that this question has not a good answer as of yet is perhaps the principal roadblock in the way of considering a hardfork at all. |
| 15:15 |
mircea_popescu |
irrespective of any flailings of random idiots (gavin & all), there can not be a hardfork until such a time as we have an answer to that question. |
| 15:15 |
ascii_field |
this is rather elementarily obvious, imho |
| 15:16 |
mircea_popescu |
the obvious "because our esteemed leader says so" (which already carried, exactly once, when the versions prior to 2 were forked off) doesn't carry, as the closest to such a thing extant in bitcoin is against it. |
| 15:16 |
ascii_field |
but my original point was, that if picking up the hammer of the gods, if/when the day comes, one may as well smite ~all~ the known idiocies, vs. only a subset |
| 15:17 |
mircea_popescu |
moreover, there is a list of idiocies that may not be not smitten |
| 15:17 |
ascii_field |
that 'fixint time' Must Die (TM) i imagine is not controversial |
| 15:17 |
mircea_popescu |
it's only controversial in that most of the "participants" have nfi. |
| 15:17 |
ascii_field |
(notice i did not say '32-bit time') |
| 15:17 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3947 @ 0.00045034 = 1.7775 BTC [-] |
| 15:17 |
mircea_popescu |
technically ignorance is a side to any controversy |
| 15:23 |
ascii_field |
only in the sense that fleas on the dogs are contenders in the 'iditarod' races |
| 15:25 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3541 @ 0.00044341 = 1.5701 BTC [-] |
| 15:26 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17300 @ 0.00045137 = 7.8087 BTC [+] {3} |
| 15:32 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.00044217 = 3.2721 BTC [-] |
| 15:36 |
jurov |
well.. some databases use 'double' for the time |
| 15:37 |
jurov |
with one day being == 1.0 |
| 15:38 |
ascii_field |
fixed bit count time field >> braindamaged |
| 15:40 |
jurov |
what do you propose? ISO format? |
| 15:40 |
ascii_field |
bigint |
| 15:41 |
ascii_field |
(there are many ways to encode 'this is how long, and what follows is the integer itself) |
| 15:42 |
jurov |
encode dates in UTF-8? |
| 15:42 |
* |
jurov hides |
| 15:42 |
ascii_field |
obligatory: http://naggum.no/lugm-time.html |
| 15:42 |
assbot |
Erik Naggum — A Long, Painful History of Time ... ( http://bit.ly/1erxxix ) |
| 15:43 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26641 @ 0.00043894 = 11.6938 BTC [-] |
| 15:43 |
jurov |
but seriously, certain experiences make me wary of using naked numbers for datetime, i always exchange stuff using ISO 8601 format and always with timezone |
| 15:44 |
jurov |
the database can save them as it wants as long i can get same thing as i put in |
| 15:45 |
trinque |
why's parsing a single integer more dangerous than parsing a complicated string? |
| 15:45 |
trinque |
*in your view |
| 15:45 |
jurov |
1. losing timezone is risky |
| 15:46 |
trinque |
store as UTC with a separate tz field |
| 15:46 |
jurov |
are you certain you ceonverted everything to utc? |
| 15:46 |
trinque |
sure |
| 15:46 |
jurov |
2. js needs to multiply the value 100x |
| 15:46 |
asciilifeform |
!up ascii_field |
| 15:46 |
jurov |
3. you can't visually check the dates looks right |
| 15:46 |
* |
mircea_popescu loathes timezones. |
| 15:46 |
jurov |
etc.etc. |
| 15:46 |
ascii_field |
jurov: what time could you ever want that can't be recovered from epoch time ? |
| 15:47 |
jurov |
i can be never sure i have put epoch time in |
| 15:47 |
ascii_field |
fuck 'timezones' with red-hot poker |
| 15:47 |
trinque |
mircea_popescu: I tend to ignore their existence except at the last step before display |
| 15:47 |
ascii_field |
and ditto 'leap seconds' etc |
| 15:47 |
mircea_popescu |
i'd rather people had to get used to the fact they a) live in shitlandia so sunrise is at 4pm and b) they're shitlords that live in the dirt and so their interests areen't being catered to |
| 15:47 |
mircea_popescu |
than me having to keep changing the time. |
| 15:47 |
ascii_field |
^^ |
| 15:47 |
trinque |
yeah, that would be much better |
| 15:47 |
mircea_popescu |
fuck it, make one planet time and whoever doesn't fly enough can eat a bag of dicks. |
| 15:47 |
ascii_field |
earth time. |
| 15:48 |
mircea_popescu |
timezone is about as braindamaged as "colorsmell" |
| 15:48 |
jurov |
i have put a code in coinbr that checks for mandatory timezones and pops an excpetion otherwise |
| 15:48 |
jurov |
and it saved my ass several times |
| 15:48 |
ascii_field |
mircea_popescu: 'colorsmell' << as in what lsd users get ? |
| 15:49 |
mircea_popescu |
yeh |
| 15:49 |
mircea_popescu |
synestupidia. |
| 15:49 |
ascii_field |
'gmt' exists |
| 15:50 |
ascii_field |
but probably not what mircea_popescu had in mind |
| 15:50 |
mircea_popescu |
bbl |
| 15:50 |
nubbins` |
have never smelled colour on lsd |
| 15:51 |
ascii_field |
nubbins`: but what of the opposite, the colour of a smell ? |
| 15:51 |
nubbins` |
smelled ozone yesterday while shorting the control panel on a 240V conveyor dryer o.O |
| 15:51 |
trinque |
yeah, my perception of the various senses gets diddled to the extreme, but they have never mixed |
| 15:51 |
nubbins` |
ascii_field nothing nearly as organized as that :D |
| 15:52 |
nubbins` |
salvia divinorum is way more likely to induce synesthesia anyway |
| 15:53 |
nubbins` |
unfortunately mp just left so he is unable to inform us that the hallucinogenic effects of drugs don't exist and we're deluding ourselves into pretending to be hallucinating |
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| 15:53 |
nubbins` |
or w/e it was :D |
| 15:53 |
* |
nubbins` suspects mp was sold oregano as a kid and smoked it |
| 15:54 |
mats |
i vaguely remember mp being stoned a few months ago |
| 15:54 |
ascii_field |
iirc there exist 'true hallucinogens' where the user retains not a shred of doubt that the hallucinated sensations correspond to reality; and a 'false' kind, where there is doubt, and to which most extant hallucinogenic dope falls into |
| 15:55 |
mats |
something about the stuff being stronger than last decade or w.e |
| 15:55 |
ascii_field |
but having never accessed either personally, i cannot comment |
| 15:55 |
trinque |
nubbins`: salvia is a hell of a drug |
| 15:55 |
nubbins` |
+oo |
| 15:55 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14550 @ 0.00043856 = 6.381 BTC [-] |
| 15:56 |
nubbins` |
ascii_field "jimson weed" (datura) hallucinations are generally interpreted as being genuine |
| 15:56 |
nubbins` |
i.e. user does not feel impaired but will imagine cigarettes, people, etc |
| 15:56 |
ascii_field |
i also recall that the 'true hallucinogens' are generally taken once and 'wtf why did i do that' |
| 15:56 |
nubbins` |
trip reports for that shit on Erowid.org were always fun to read |
| 15:56 |
nubbins` |
yup. |
| 15:56 |
nubbins` |
most of the stories end in the hospital or the police station |
| 15:56 |
trinque |
I've heard terrible things about datura |
| 15:57 |
nubbins` |
people trying to sell drugs to toilets, etc |
| 15:57 |
mats |
all i did was walk around naked |
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| 15:57 |
mats |
that sounds more fun |
| 15:57 |
nubbins` |
sounds very un-fun |
| 15:58 |
nubbins` |
LSD, psilocybin etc more "augment" things than anything else |
| 15:59 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30762 @ 0.00044171 = 13.5879 BTC [+] {2} |
| 16:03 |
trinque |
nubbins`: I tend to think of LSD as abstract-reasoning overdrive serum |
| 16:04 |
ascii_field |
trinque: there is apparently ample record of folks using very small (a few microgram) doses precisely this way |
| 16:04 |
trinque |
ascii_field: yep, too much and your brain becomes useless, multicolored mush |
| 16:05 |
ascii_field |
trinque: always wanted to try this, but never came close to accessing the dope |
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| 16:05 |
nubbins` |
SWIM definitely took a half-tab and attended math class more than once at uni |
| 16:05 |
mats |
lol |
| 16:05 |
nubbins` |
ascii_field dark markets offer impossibly reliable plausible deniability |
| 16:05 |
ascii_field |
nubbins`: l0l at morons having dope mailed to their postbox |
| 16:06 |
trinque |
^ |
| 16:06 |
mats |
pick up a reagent kit if you're going to do that |
| 16:06 |
ascii_field |
and lacking own gas chromatograph to see precisely what is in |
| 16:06 |
nubbins` |
ascii_field you realize that i could mail dope to your mailbox today, yes? |
| 16:06 |
mats |
actually, that should go without saying |
| 16:06 |
ascii_field |
nubbins`: i check it every day, for some reason no dope... |
| 16:06 |
nubbins` |
and if one day the dope shows up... what crime did you commit? |
| 16:06 |
ascii_field |
and no invitations from chinese emperor |
| 16:06 |
nubbins` |
owning a mailbox? |
| 16:07 |
ascii_field |
nubbins`: the crime of being nominated for police watch while checking mail |
| 16:07 |
ascii_field |
the mayor of the town where i live had this set up for him |
| 16:07 |
ascii_field |
they machine-gunned his dogs |
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| 16:07 |
nubbins` |
o.O |
| 16:07 |
ascii_field |
aha. some bozo (opponent?) mailed him a fat crate of dope |
| 16:07 |
nubbins` |
so you take package from mailbox and lay it on your table for an hour. |
| 16:07 |
ascii_field |
and tipped off the police prior |
| 16:07 |
ascii_field |
they sat, watched |
| 16:08 |
mats |
thats brilliant |
| 16:08 |
nubbins` |
also, fat crate of dope != lsd |
| 16:08 |
ascii_field |
sure. |
| 16:09 |
nubbins` |
SWIM had to retrieve from garbage once due to extreme stealth on part of seller |
| 16:09 |
ascii_field |
fits in the comma at the end of a printed sentence. but for actual scientific self-experimentation a la alex shulgin one needs ~known~ dose |
| 16:09 |
ascii_field |
not simply 'this is a postage stamp with some amount of lsd' |
| 16:09 |
* |
nubbins` nods |
| 16:09 |
nubbins` |
vials of pure liquid are less common nowadays |
| 16:09 |
nubbins` |
tho still available |
| 16:09 |
ascii_field |
no 'dark'-anything will ever sell you a known amount of whatever. |
| 16:10 |
* |
nubbins` shrugs |
| 16:10 |
nubbins` |
if you say |
| 16:10 |
ascii_field |
it's a strictly 'wot' sort of affair |
| 16:10 |
ascii_field |
like buying plutonium |
| 16:10 |
nubbins` |
what, you think i pop online and choose a random vendor each time? :D |
| 16:11 |
ascii_field |
nubbins`: unless vendor is also the producer (this is, as i understand, uncommon for opsec reasons) you in fact ~are~ 'choosing random' |
| 16:13 |
* |
nubbins` throws hands in air |
| 16:13 |
nubbins` |
drugs are cut by dealer, not distributor |
| 16:14 |
ascii_field |
nubbins`: lsd is unstable in solution. and so it would stand to reason that it is parceled out to the 'stamps' where produced. |
| 16:14 |
ascii_field |
but i cannot say for certain. |
| 16:15 |
mats |
unstable in all forms |
| 16:16 |
nubbins` |
"As a salt, in water, cold, and free from air and light exposure, it is stable indefinitely." |
| 16:16 |
nubbins` |
^ from tihkal |
| 16:16 |
ascii_field |
originally sold (by sandoz) in, iirc, ampules. |
| 16:16 |
mats |
hmm |
| 16:16 |
nubbins` |
clear glass ones |
| 16:17 |
nubbins` |
!up ascii_field |
| 16:17 |
nubbins` |
UV light destroys it in short order |
| 16:17 |
nubbins` |
my understanding is that crystal is dissolved in solution by producer, then laid by distributors, but i'm sure there are as many arrangements as producers and distributors |
| 16:18 |
nubbins` |
SWIM's source says they receive crystal and lay their own blotters, but as you say -- who knows? |
| 16:18 |
nubbins` |
short of sending some to a lab, all we have is subjective commentary |
| 16:19 |
nubbins` |
the original SR had an lsd review team w/ access to a lab |
| 16:19 |
nubbins` |
regularly tested tabs and posted analysis |
| 16:19 |
mats |
the most common arrangement i've seen is a solution of everclear and lsd |
| 16:19 |
ascii_field |
<nubbins`> regularly tested tabs and posted analysis << they aren't in my wot... |
| 16:19 |
nubbins` |
this is true. they're in mine, tho :D |
| 16:20 |
nubbins` |
https://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/tihkal/tihkal26.shtml |
| 16:20 |
assbot |
Erowid Online Books : "TIHKAL" - #26 LSD-25 ... ( http://bit.ly/1Li2Qtf ) |
| 16:20 |
nubbins` |
related reading for the curious |
| 16:20 |
* |
ascii_field owns the dead tree of 'pihkal' and 'tihkal' |
| 16:21 |
nubbins` |
oooooo |
| 16:21 |
nubbins` |
LSD-25 is (i think) the only substance that doesn't include qualitative comments |
| 16:21 |
nubbins` |
with the excuse given that there are plenty already and it would be absurd to cherry-pick a handful of his own |
| 16:21 |
ascii_field |
aha |
| 16:22 |
* |
ascii_field often wonders if he's the only man alive to have 1) read the books 2) wanted to taste the items described therein 3) could not |
| 16:22 |
nubbins` |
nope. |
| 16:23 |
punkman |
I'd say that holds for the majority of readers |
| 16:23 |
nubbins` |
i read he was really into cacti in his later years |
| 16:23 |
nubbins` |
died recently iirc |
| 16:23 |
ascii_field |
punkman: i suspect that the majority of readers ~could~ obtain at least one or two of the items found in the pages |
| 16:23 |
nubbins` |
hoffman famously lived to the ripe age of 102 |
| 16:23 |
ascii_field |
died last year, i think |
| 16:24 |
nubbins` |
ascii_field didn't we just establish that you could taste these things but choose not to? :D |
| 16:24 |
ascii_field |
nubbins`: i could taste mystery meat |
| 16:24 |
ascii_field |
but why would i want to do that. |
| 16:24 |
nubbins` |
that's why you buy from a website instead of a street dealer |
| 16:24 |
nubbins` |
purchase LSD on the street and i almost guarantee you'll be purchasing an NBOMe |
| 16:25 |
nubbins` |
purchase LSD online and there's NBOMe for sale right next to it so why not just call everything what it is and let the buyer choose? |
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| 16:25 |
ascii_field |
wake me up when they're in my wot, and not opsec-retarded |
| 16:25 |
* |
nubbins` roughly shakes ascii_field |
| 16:25 |
nubbins` |
WAKE UP |
| 16:25 |
punkman |
I was recently shown a website that sold legal LSD analogues via credit card |
| 16:25 |
nubbins` |
remember RAC research? |
| 16:25 |
ascii_field |
'analogues' l0l |
| 16:25 |
ascii_field |
in usa actually we have an 'analogues act' |
| 16:26 |
ascii_field |
specifically for folks like this |
| 16:26 |
nubbins` |
^ |
| 16:26 |
nubbins` |
https://drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2026 |
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| 16:26 |
assbot |
Culture - DEA arrests most Research Chemical vendors under the name 'Operation Web tryp' - Drugs Forum ... ( http://bit.ly/1Li3nvj ) |
| 16:26 |
ascii_field |
^ more than one such, even |
| 16:26 |
nubbins` |
i had always wondered if those research chem sites were legit |
| 16:26 |
nubbins` |
turns out they were :P |
| 16:26 |
ascii_field |
so legit they helpfully kept records of all names... |
| 16:27 |
nubbins` |
8) |
| 16:27 |
nubbins` |
;;google JLF poisonous non-consumables arrest |
| 16:27 |
gribble |
Arresting Vendors of Grey Market Psychoactives - Psychonaut: <http://www.psychonaut.com/blog/35786-arresting-vendors-grey-market-psychoactives.html>; The Strange Case of Mark Niemoeller | Alternet: <http://www.alternet.org/story/12393/the_strange_case_of_mark_niemoeller>; Erowid Research Chemical Vault : Not in Kansas Anymore...: (1 more message) |
| 16:28 |
punkman |
nubbins`: did you ever try AL-LAD? |
| 16:29 |
nubbins` |
haven't had the pleasure |
| 16:30 |
ascii_field |
until we have a way of dematerializing physical objects and reconstituting them in a remote place without traceable motion in-between, like bits, pretty much everyone who is willing to be involved on the supply side of dope economy is retarded |
| 16:30 |
nubbins` |
extracted LSA once |
| 16:30 |
ascii_field |
because it selects for this |
| 16:30 |
ascii_field |
just like bitcoin-fiat exchanges! |
| 16:30 |
nubbins` |
ascii_field that's why we're on the demand side, not the supply side |
| 16:30 |
nubbins` |
it's a win-win situation for the purchaser |
| 16:30 |
thestringpuller |
ascii_field: okay what is your rationale on this? |
| 16:30 |
ascii_field |
dealing with the retarded is - at the very least - very foolish. |
| 16:31 |
punkman |
nubbins`: depends on location |
| 16:31 |
ascii_field |
thestringpuller: see thread ? |
| 16:31 |
nubbins` |
punkman the minimum requirement is that the supplier be located in your country. |
| 16:31 |
nubbins` |
it is simply not feasible to discover LSD in domestic mail |
| 16:32 |
ascii_field |
nubbins`: it is equally difficult to discover what in particular you actually got in that mail. |
| 16:32 |
thestringpuller |
ascii_field: i've been following it you never really clarified why the supply side is specifically retarded unless I missed that line? |
| 16:32 |
nubbins` |
ascii_field an open marketplace ensures the substance, if not the dosage. |
| 16:33 |
scoopbot_revived |
France Issues Humor Related Travel Warning For Visitors to the United States http://qntra.net/2015/06/france-issues-humor-related-travel-warning-for-visitors-to-the-united-states/ |
| 16:33 |
nubbins` |
ascii_field besides, let's say you know the dosage down to the ug. What difference does that make? |
| 16:34 |
nubbins` |
person x will react differently than person y to the same dose. |
| 16:34 |
kakobrekla |
ascii_field i think nubbins` volunteers to be your test subject |
| 16:34 |
nubbins` |
so your tabs are 150ug instead of 200ug. |
| 16:34 |
* |
nubbins` waves hands dramatically |
| 16:34 |
ascii_field |
nubbins`: can then say 'i took 5ug and discovered proof of goldbach's conjecture' or 'i took 500 and learned that thirty-three is purple' |
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| 16:34 |
nubbins` |
ascii_field the sensible thing is to purchase a ten-strip, start low and see what happens. |
| 16:34 |
BingoBoingo |
!b 4 |
| 16:34 |
assbot |
Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3EAMJVC.txt ) |
| 16:35 |
nubbins` |
coincidentally, this is the same procedure used when dealing with a known quantity. |
| 16:35 |
ascii_field |
how the hell do you even know which end of the strip is 'low' ?! |
| 16:35 |
nubbins` |
heh. |
| 16:35 |
nubbins` |
i mean start with a low dose |
| 16:35 |
nubbins` |
like, say, a half tab. |
| 16:35 |
nubbins` |
didn't work so well? you have 9.5 remaining |
| 16:35 |
nubbins` |
try a full one |
| 16:36 |
ascii_field |
and if you want same thing again ? |
| 16:36 |
nubbins` |
take another half! |
| 16:36 |
ascii_field |
pray to god to send you the same concentration of strip ? |
| 16:36 |
punkman |
ideally you'd want a properly diluted solution and a dropper |
| 16:36 |
nubbins` |
ascii_field well, after your TWENTY half-hit trips, you'd probably buy another ten-strip and start the process over again. |
| 16:37 |
nubbins` |
do you suppose you'd want to do this more than 20 times? |
| 16:37 |
ascii_field |
suppose. |
| 16:37 |
nubbins` |
so the next time, get the same vendor to sell you 50. |
| 16:37 |
ascii_field |
and repeat same circus again ? |
| 16:38 |
mats |
its always going to be a gamble |
| 16:38 |
mats |
laying LSD is not an exact process |
| 16:38 |
nubbins` |
"circus" = taking a small dose, yes |
| 16:38 |
ascii_field |
would you tolerate this with coffee? booze ? |
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| 16:38 |
mats |
if you want to measure dosage, get liquid |
| 16:38 |
nubbins` |
ascii_field if otherwise unavailable, yes. |
| 16:38 |
* |
nubbins` points to moonshine |
| 16:38 |
mats |
people already tolerate this with coffee, caffeine tablets are a more reasonable alternative, right |
| 16:38 |
nubbins` |
people DO already tolerate it with coffee |
| 16:38 |
nubbins` |
cigarettes, marijuana, birthday cake... |
| 16:39 |
ascii_field |
the caffeine in the weakest and strongest cup of coffee does not vary by orders of magnitude. |
| 16:39 |
nubbins` |
imagine the burden, though, of having to eat like 2 hits of LSD to figure out an appropriate dose for the other 48. |
| 16:39 |
nubbins` |
the horror! |
| 16:39 |
nubbins` |
ascii_field the LSD from a single vendor doesn't vary by orders of magnitude either |
| 16:39 |
nubbins` |
in my wot-based experience, anyway ;p |
| 16:40 |
nubbins` |
20ug vs 200? might as well sell blank paper. |
| 16:40 |
nubbins` |
2000ug instead of 200? business: you're doing it wrong |
| 16:40 |
ascii_field |
nubbins`: how much blank paper have you eaten so far ? |
| 16:41 |
nubbins` |
none |
| 16:41 |
nubbins` |
single-purchase customers does not a business make |
| 16:42 |
nubbins` |
it's much more lucrative to sell what's advertised |
| 16:42 |
* |
ascii_field wonders why nubbins` is publicly begging lizard hitler to order his mail opened and tested |
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| 16:42 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 117700 @ 0.00045003 = 52.9685 BTC [+] {4} |
| 16:42 |
mats |
lol |
| 16:42 |
* |
nubbins` wonders why alf is paralyzed by imaginary chains of inaction |
| 16:42 |
ascii_field |
because they are not imaginary. |
| 16:42 |
* |
nubbins` nods |
| 16:42 |
nubbins` |
gotcha |
| 16:42 |
ascii_field |
see earlier re: the mayor. |
| 16:42 |
ascii_field |
and he didn't even ~ask~ for the dope |
| 16:43 |
ascii_field |
picture if i spoke here of having asked for it. |
| 16:43 |
thestringpuller |
the crack smoking mayor of toronto? |
| 16:43 |
ascii_field |
(that's the root misconception behind the pseudolegalism of 'it is not forbidden to receive dope in the mail') |
| 16:43 |
nubbins` |
listen, i can't do anything about the fact that your police regularly kill innocent people |
| 16:44 |
nubbins` |
all i'm saying is that you absolutely, 100%, can purchase drugs online safely |
| 16:44 |
ascii_field |
i don't doubt that when the time comes, they will find a watertight reason to demolish my house, with me in it, in the middle of the night |
| 16:44 |
ascii_field |
but they will have to do better than 'bought dope on shit road' |
| 16:44 |
nubbins` |
so take a trip before your number gets called. |
| 16:44 |
nubbins` |
!up ag3nt_zer0 |
| 16:44 |
nubbins` |
welcome |
| 16:45 |
nubbins` |
brb |
| 16:45 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
nubbis`: thanks |
| 16:46 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
Nubbins`: thanks |
| 16:47 |
nubbins` |
!up ascii_field |
| 16:48 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
sorry ahead of time for the remedialism... so I attempted to encrypt my first txt by following this: gpg –output [message.txt.gpg] –encrypt –recipient [your@friend.org] [message.txt]... however, this is what I got... usage: gpg [options] [filename] - any advice would be welcome...? |
| 16:53 |
nubbins` |
ag3nt_zer0 try --option instead of -option? |
| 16:53 |
nubbins` |
e.g. --output etc |
| 16:53 |
nubbins` |
some related lore, for those interested: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/1427364 |
| 16:53 |
assbot |
The "THUMBPRINT" - The Pub - Shroomery Message Board ... ( http://bit.ly/1Li6d3C ) |
| 16:54 |
shinohai |
And of course ensure that you have your friend's key imported |
| 17:04 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
shinohai: am I attempting the impossible by just trying to encrypt it to my own key and send to myself for a check? |
| 17:05 |
shinohai |
try sending it to me: https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE33585713E184252 |
| 17:05 |
assbot |
Public Key Server -- Get "0xe33585713e184252 " ... ( http://bit.ly/1IRIF28 ) |
| 17:14 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
nubbins: thanks the double dash worked |
| 17:14 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
shinohai: i got somewhere but it says "there is no assurance this key belongs to the named user" |
| 17:15 |
trinque |
ag3nt_zer0: that's because marking the key as certainly your friend's key is something you do, and something you shouldn't do casually |
| 17:15 |
shinohai |
That's normal. It just means you can't know *for sure* it is me unless I give you the key in person. |
| 17:15 |
shinohai |
>.> |
| 17:16 |
shinohai |
!up ag3nt_zer0 |
| 17:17 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
shinohai: gpg: can't open `gpgmessage.txt': No such file or directory |
| 17:17 |
cazalla |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-06-2015#1167669 <<< i always thought the pirate ship was lego's piece de resistance |
| 17:17 |
assbot |
Logged on 18-06-2015 15:21:32; thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: the problem i have with legos is construction organization of bigger sets. I have a 10k+ piece star destroyer set and if I stop working on it I always forget the step i was left. |
| 17:18 |
shinohai |
So you make a text file, call it gpgmessage.txt (or whatever) and save it |
| 17:18 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
yes |
| 17:19 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
do I need to put the path in there? after --output? |
| 17:20 |
shinohai |
yes or cd to the absolute path |
| 17:20 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
ok duh |
| 17:21 |
shinohai |
https://i.imgur.com/3TTaw.jpg [asset of the day] |
| 17:21 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1IRJLed ) |
| 17:24 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
shinohai: did you receive? |
| 17:25 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 82850 @ 0.00045603 = 37.7821 BTC [+] {2} |
| 17:27 |
cazalla |
shinohai, bit mousy looking but nice |
| 17:27 |
shinohai |
Yeah cazalla a bit of a butterface but for dat ass I'll make exceptions. |
| 17:28 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13054 @ 0.00044821 = 5.8509 BTC [-] |
| 17:31 |
cazalla |
ah i think she's attractive, just has that mousy look.. no cocks either! maybe mp could learn a thing or two from you :P |
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| 17:35 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41800 @ 0.00046682 = 19.5131 BTC [+] {3} |
| 17:36 |
shinohai |
I try to find some like mp likes, but never any girls with strike my fancy. So I guess he has monopoly on cocks |
| 17:47 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10196 @ 0.00046673 = 4.7588 BTC [-] |
| 17:48 |
cazalla |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-06-2015#1167968 <<< ya read about that montfortRC darknet dealer who put like 12 people in the hospital with his stuff? |
| 17:48 |
assbot |
Logged on 18-06-2015 20:25:11; nubbins`: purchase LSD online and there's NBOMe for sale right next to it so why not just call everything what it is and let the buyer choose? |
| 17:48 |
nubbins` |
o.O |
| 17:49 |
cazalla |
mind you it was roids or some shit but asciilifeform's point sorta stands.. they got mystery meat |
| 17:50 |
shinohai |
Most people cba with test kits, and instead just put whatever substance they get in the mail inside them. |
| 17:50 |
funkenstein_ |
highly recommended on the topic: Graham Hancock's banned TED talk on the war on consciousness |
| 17:51 |
cazalla |
http://np.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/3a0b0p/fuck_you_montfort_you_did_this_i_was_going_to/cs85xzo |
| 17:51 |
assbot |
World177 comments on FUCK YOU MONTFORT. YOU DID THIS. I WAS GOING TO JUST LEAVE IT ALONE. ... ( http://bit.ly/1GkiGfD ) |
| 17:52 |
cazalla |
dealer had an assortment of mystery meats it would seem lol |
| 17:52 |
trinque |
jeez |
| 17:52 |
BingoBoingo |
cazalla: Don't post np links here, we don't want b-a warriors shadowbanned for brigading |
| 17:53 |
funkenstein_ |
guess i'm an old man, i never heard of any of those chems in that thread |
| 17:54 |
cazalla |
BingoBoingo, nfi why it is even in the url, gotta sub or something? |
| 17:54 |
funkenstein_ |
personally i am more comfortable with darket markets than hospital pharmacies |
| 17:54 |
BingoBoingo |
cazalla: The fis is deleting the np. part |
| 17:55 |
trinque |
I've gambled on too many farts (and made it out ok) to keep doing so |
| 17:55 |
cazalla |
on a related note.. some medical centres in australia are prescribing ketamine off label for depression |
| 17:55 |
trinque |
would much rather have a sane society and an above-ground vendor of recreational chemicals |
| 17:55 |
BingoBoingo |
Not to worried about it beyond people wanting to fuck with homo reddictus and getting their hate hidden |
| 17:55 |
Adlai |
"provider... recognised mistake and told me he had shipped acetylfentanyl instead and apologized and agreed to send 200g of methylone for free to compensate." sounds like everything went Better Than Expected™ |
| 17:57 |
Adlai |
we apologize for shipping guns which fire backwards. we will arm your next army with twice as many guns and we promise they'll shoot forwards this time! |
| 18:00 |
funkenstein_ |
this kind of thing is the number one cause of death in babylon, referred to as medical errors |
| 18:03 |
jurov |
lol the log got..er...high |
| 18:11 |
jurov |
!up ag3nt_zer0 |
| 18:11 |
jurov |
have you reg'd with assbot yet? |
| 18:11 |
mats |
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/330359969813770242 |
| 18:11 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
hi, thanks jurov, no I have not |
| 18:11 |
mats |
>camelcase |
| 18:12 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
still trying to figure out how encrypt and send a message properly |
| 18:12 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
does anyone have experience with gpgtools for mac? |
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| 18:13 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
tried sending to shinohai but got a string of numbers he said were not correct looking at all |
| 18:14 |
shinohai |
http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=DFk5bQ1g << for reference. |
| 18:14 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1GknnGj ) |
| 18:14 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
shinohai: thanks |
| 18:14 |
jurov |
oh you forgot --armor |
| 18:14 |
jurov |
by default gpg spews binary |
| 18:15 |
shinohai |
That never crossed my mind for some reason. |
| 18:16 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
jurov: thanks. do I place that between --encrypt and --recipient? |
| 18:16 |
jurov |
gpg --armor --sign --encrypt -R A179E169 < niggers.txt > encrypted.txt |
| 18:16 |
jurov |
^ example |
| 18:16 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
haha ok |
| 18:17 |
shinohai |
That's hilarious jurov because I saved a dum file earlier and named it "niggers.txt" |
| 18:18 |
jurov |
!s niggers.txt |
| 18:18 |
assbot |
62 results for 'niggers.txt' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=niggers.txt |
| 18:18 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32996 @ 0.00044821 = 14.7891 BTC [-] |
| 18:21 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17622 @ 0.00043856 = 7.7283 BTC [-] |
| 18:23 |
* |
funkenstein_ doesn't get it |
| 18:24 |
BingoBoingo |
Also don't forget to set the .conf for them or you get Ferguson/Baltimore |
| 18:26 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
shinohai: http://pastebin.com/9vPaT5ih |
| 18:26 |
assbot |
-----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org hQEMA7S - Pastebin.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1GkpI3Q ) |
| 18:27 |
funkenstein_ |
BingoBoingo, explain please |
| 18:28 |
BingoBoingo |
!s niggers.conf |
| 18:28 |
assbot |
2 results for 'niggers.conf' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=niggers.conf |
| 18:28 |
mats |
https://www.yahoo.com/style/at-the-recent-69th-annual-tony-awards-the-121675123143.html heh |
| 18:28 |
assbot |
How Stars Like Cara Delevingne, Kristen Stewart, & Miley Cyrus Are Leading the Gender Fluid Movement for Millennials ... ( http://bit.ly/1HZcTSg ) |
| 18:29 |
shinohai |
Well ag3nt_zer0 you encrypted it woth your own key, instead of my public key |
| 18:29 |
mats |
the acronym gets longer every year |
| 18:29 |
shinohai |
otherwise thats it |
| 18:29 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
Gender Fluid? don't step in that! |
| 18:30 |
funkenstein_ |
one can use the word nigger to comedic value sure.. |
| 18:30 |
funkenstein_ |
but what's the reference to fascist police action? |
| 18:31 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
shinohai: can you pm me? |
| 18:32 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10950 @ 0.00043825 = 4.7988 BTC [-] {2} |
| 18:34 |
BingoBoingo |
funkenstein_: niggers.conf is how you set the police. If you go with the insane defaults they tend to go a bit crazy with the oppression. |
| 18:36 |
mats |
casual racism is the norm here |
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| 18:37 |
funkenstein_ |
:D |
| 18:38 |
cazalla |
it's not even really racism |
| 18:39 |
shinohai |
We know there aren't any niggers here, how they going to find a school? |
| 18:40 |
funkenstein_ |
you mean no police here? |
| 18:40 |
mats |
what? |
| 18:40 |
BingoBoingo |
Most niggers are white nowadays |
| 18:43 |
jurov |
i thought most whites are niggers |
| 18:43 |
jurov |
or gypsies |
| 18:44 |
jurov |
!up gares |
| 18:44 |
jurov |
!up paxtoncamaro91_ |
| 18:46 |
menahem |
;;later tell mircea_popescu Your shirt is a hit, http://screencast.com/t/5Y30zCpvFu - By chance, do you have your previous header image ? The b&w one, you pointing, looking fierce ? I think it'd be killa on a tee. |
| 18:46 |
assbot |
2015-06-19_0007 - Saucal's library ... ( http://bit.ly/1GktESh ) |
| 18:46 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 18:50 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29900 @ 0.00043779 = 13.0899 BTC [-] |
| 18:52 |
jurov |
menahem pick one: http://trilema.com/wp-content/themes/trilema/images/ |
| 18:52 |
assbot |
Index of /wp-content/themes/trilema/images ... ( http://bit.ly/1HZhtzS ) |
| 18:53 |
menahem |
yesss! thank you jurov |
| 18:54 |
menahem |
was looking for http://trilema.com/wp-content/themes/trilema/images/bg_apr2015.jpg |
| 18:54 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1HZhT9h ) |
| 18:54 |
kakobrekla |
but did you actually sell any of them? |
| 18:55 |
menahem |
yea 1 MP tee, then we had an order this morning for a bitpixel one |
| 18:57 |
menahem |
a lil weekend job, throw it up, post some links, make some passive cash |
| 18:59 |
mats |
;;view menahem |
| 18:59 |
gribble |
Error: No orders found matching these criteria. |
| 18:59 |
mats |
might be worth your time to put it in the -otc order book |
| 18:59 |
cazalla |
for a moment i was like.. why would jurov not give qntra the scoop? http://www.coindesk.com/latin-america-coinbr-acquires-coinverse/ |
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| 18:59 |
assbot |
CoinBR Acquires Coinverse in Latest Exchange Merger ... ( http://bit.ly/1GkwFlJ ) |
| 19:00 |
menahem |
mats, awesome idea, i'll look into it, ty. |
| 19:07 |
mats |
https://youtu.be/f7wkRET0hbo |
| 19:07 |
assbot |
RATATAT - ABRASIVE - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1HZkEaL ) |
| 19:13 |
trinque |
mats: ooh another single... ty |
| 19:15 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43586 @ 0.00043624 = 19.014 BTC [-] {3} |
| 19:22 |
trinque |
!up ag3nt_zer0 |
| 19:22 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
ty |
| 19:22 |
trinque |
yw |
| 19:23 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
!register <F91576C7> |
| 19:23 |
assbot |
That does not seem to be a valid fingerprint. |
| 19:23 |
mats |
https://soundcloud.com/wknd/chet-faker-x-wknd-lover |
| 19:23 |
assbot |
Chet Faker x SAINT WKND - Lover by SAINT WKND | Free Listening on SoundCloud ... ( http://bit.ly/1HZo0KN ) |
| 19:23 |
trinque |
ag3nt_zer0: gpg --list-keys --fingerprint your@email.com |
| 19:25 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
!register <E3A4 9054 7D5E 8A59 0A56 08B0 C31C B3DF F915 76C7> |
| 19:25 |
assbot |
That does not seem to be a valid fingerprint. |
| 19:26 |
trinque |
closer, but no <> and no spaces |
| 19:26 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
hehe thx |
| 19:27 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
!register E3A490547D5E8A590A5608B0C31CB3DFF91576C7 |
| 19:27 |
assbot |
Searching pgp.mit.edu for key with fingerprint: E3A490547D5E8A590A5608B0C31CB3DFF91576C7. This may take a few moments. |
| 19:27 |
assbot |
Key F91576C7 / "AgentZero <liberty@tuta.io>" successfully imported. |
| 19:27 |
assbot |
Registration successful. |
| 19:27 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
hey! |
| 19:27 |
mats |
you're a person nao |
| 19:27 |
* |
trinque claps |
| 19:28 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
oh wow I even have a +... thought I still had to earn that! |
| 19:28 |
trinque |
!gettrust ag3nt_zer0 |
| 19:28 |
assbot |
Trust relationship from user trinque to user ag3nt_zer0: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=trinque&to=ag3nt_zer0 | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/ag3nt_zer0/ |
| 19:28 |
trinque |
ag3nt_zer0: ^ |
| 19:28 |
trinque |
you are voiced, but that's temporary |
| 19:28 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
so cool... even though I a still figuring out what the hell it all means... hehe |
| 19:29 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
trinque: oh ok yeah I see |
| 19:29 |
trinque |
!rate ag3nt_zer0 1 new blood |
| 19:29 |
assbot |
Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/80782cd1c926b412 |
| 19:30 |
trinque |
!v assbot:trinque.rate.ag3nt_zer0.1:ff6e7d96ebfbbe7ecce6a0c6e3e4045c153184dd0283b7b2afc1437fb81ea10e |
| 19:30 |
assbot |
Successfully added a rating of 1 for ag3nt_zer0 with note: new blood |
| 19:30 |
trinque |
!gettrust ag3nt_zer0 |
| 19:30 |
assbot |
Trust relationship from user trinque to user ag3nt_zer0: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=trinque&to=ag3nt_zer0 | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/ag3nt_zer0/ |
| 19:30 |
trinque |
ag3nt_zer0: you may now self-voice. |
| 19:32 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
trinque: thanks! are those links supposed to be dead ends? all of them appear to be except this... which says user not found... http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/ag3nt_zer0/ |
| 19:32 |
assbot |
WoT User Not Found - Btc Alpha ... ( http://bit.ly/1HZpODI ) |
| 19:32 |
trinque |
that site updates every so often |
| 19:32 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
ok |
| 19:34 |
trinque |
ag3nt_zer0: give voicing yourself a shot |
| 19:34 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
well trinque, jurov, shinohai - thanks alot for your guys help today! |
| 19:35 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
!up ag3nt_zer0 |
| 19:38 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
trinque: I think I got something... first I got: -assbot- Insufficient rights, ag3nt_zer0, !up yourself on PM first. |
| 19:38 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54000 @ 0.00043419 = 23.4463 BTC [-] {4} |
| 19:38 |
trinque |
ag3nt_zer0: assbot wants you to send the up request via pm |
| 19:38 |
mats |
/query assbot !up |
| 19:38 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
so I did this: *ag3nt_zer0* !up ag3nt_zer0 |
| 19:39 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
and now have echoing private messages with self... is that what was supposed to happen? |
| 19:39 |
* |
trinque thwacks ag3nt_zer0 with a zen stick |
| 19:40 |
trinque |
ag3nt_zer0: run mats command without the space in front |
| 19:40 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
haha was just about to say I think I have bothered you guys enough for one day! |
| 19:40 |
mats |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Spicm13kLMk the other released song in this album |
| 19:40 |
assbot |
Ratatat - Cream on Chrome - Live from Coachella, April 11, 2015 - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1HZro8E ) |
| 19:51 |
mats |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7uXE_lEzxI |
| 19:51 |
assbot |
Live CTF v2: The Hard Reboot (Episode 2) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1IRTS2v ) |
| 19:55 |
punkman |
http://www.businessinsider.com/bitcoin-elliptic-startup-anti-money-laundering-tool-get-banks-interested-cryptocurrency-2015-6 |
| 19:55 |
assbot |
Bitcoin: Elliptic says its anti-money laundering tool could get banks interested in cryptocurrency - Business Insider ... ( http://bit.ly/1HZtPbh ) |
| 19:55 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44008 @ 0.00044599 = 19.6271 BTC [+] {2} |
| 19:57 |
trinque |
"to ascertain that their bitcoin holdings are not derived from the proceeds of crime." << hilarious |
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| 19:57 |
trinque |
as opposed to their fiat holdings |
| 19:58 |
punkman |
yeah gotta remember how HSBC turned down all those mexicans drug dealers |
| 19:59 |
trinque |
I'm sure everyone involved was punished |
| 19:59 |
trinque |
customary punishment in banking circles is being buried by a dumptruck full of cash, I've heard |
| 20:05 |
menahem |
lol |
| 20:05 |
menahem |
this was just released http://www.parl.gc.ca/Content/SEN/Committee/412/banc/rep/rep12jun15-e.pdf |
| 20:05 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1HZvI7M ) |
| 20:05 |
menahem |
nothing worth noting, mostly "take a hands off approach and wait" |
| |
~ 43 minutes ~ |
| 20:49 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-06-2015#1168261 << hypothetical twist: whole thing is a front by chinese miners, anxious to sell certifiably 'clean' coin to gullible schmucks at a premium |
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| 20:49 |
assbot |
Logged on 18-06-2015 23:57:28; trinque: "to ascertain that their bitcoin holdings are not derived from the proceeds of crime." << hilarious |
| 20:53 |
trinque |
hey, look there |
| 20:53 |
trinque |
ag3nt_zer0: bravo |
| 20:54 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
yeah thanks to you trinque hehe |
| 20:54 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
5 thumbs over here haha |
| 20:56 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: It wouldn't be the first time |
| 20:56 |
trinque |
well, now you know how to make curl and gpg kiss |
| 20:56 |
trinque |
inventing bullshit certifications is great business |
| 20:57 |
trinque |
reminds me of hearing about someone selling licenses for open source software |
| 20:57 |
trinque |
due to govt requirements |
| 20:58 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
trinque: yes, very cool! |
| 21:00 |
asciilifeform |
trinque: sco ? |
| 21:01 |
trinque |
heh no, but them too |
| |
~ 36 minutes ~ |
| 21:37 |
mats |
TIL GNU wdiff is a thing |
| |
~ 23 minutes ~ |
| 22:01 |
asciilifeform |
http://www.underhanded-c.org << this year's winners |
| 22:01 |
assbot |
The Underhanded C Contest ... ( http://bit.ly/1InKdy8 ) |
| 22:01 |
asciilifeform |
^^^ required reading for all 'sappers' |
| 22:02 |
asciilifeform |
(technically last year. this year's contest not yet began) |
| 22:02 |
asciilifeform |
first place medalist is a mega-masterpiece |
| 22:03 |
BingoBoingo |
^ Added to the 21 year plan |
| 22:03 |
asciilifeform |
this one was nsa-themed, too |
| 22:03 |
asciilifeform |
'The PiuPiu oversharing site allows users to create PiuPiu accounts and post 140-character messages. The federal government wants PiuPiu to surveil user activity on the site, by archiving any posts that match certain patterns outlined in a national security letter. Subject to the nondisclosure constraints of the letter, PiuPiu may not inform anyone of the surveillance request.' |
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| 22:03 |
asciilifeform |
'The underhanded goal is this: write surveil() in such a way that the act of surveillance is subtly leaked to the user or to the outside world. PiuPiu can not reveal the act of surveillance, but your function is technically able to edit the Piu or user structure during scanning. Find a way to alter that data (this alone is a bit of a challenge, since you are not supposed to alter the data, just scan it) in such a way that an i |
| 22:03 |
asciilifeform |
nformed outsider can tell if someone is being archived. The leakage should be subtle enough that it is not easily noticed.' |
| |
~ 35 minutes ~ |
| 22:39 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: C macros are of the devil |
| |
~ 29 minutes ~ |
| 23:09 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
if I were to embark on a learning journey exploring the rudiments of programming, would there be good reason to not start with C? I always like to go to the root of something I am learning, which in my ignorant guesswork I like to think C is one of those root languages, but I have heard whisperings here and there that python is the way to go... any thoughts? |
| 23:09 |
decimation |
C is essentially the 'bedrock' of modern computers |
| 23:09 |
decimation |
unless you want to make your own computing machine I suggest learning bedrock |
| 23:09 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
haha ok |
| 23:10 |
mats |
on the subject of timezones |
| 23:10 |
mats |
am confuse about why London is GMT+1 |
| 23:10 |
mats |
\o/ |
| 23:10 |
decimation |
daylight savings |
| 23:10 |
decimation |
just like here |
| 23:10 |
mats |
oh, that explains it. |
| 23:11 |
decimation |
to make things stupid they also go on daylight savings at different calendar days than we do |
| 23:12 |
decimation |
also GMT is kinda outdated, the new thing is french UTC |
| 23:15 |
mats |
ic |
| 23:16 |
funkenstein_ |
mayans laughing their asses off at us |
| 23:17 |
decimation |
ftp://hpiers.obspm.fr/iers/bul/buld/bulletind.124 < after the leap second, DUT1 will be +0.3s |
| 23:22 |
funkenstein_ |
while we're on the subject of time, i've been working on building a clock |
| 23:22 |
funkenstein_ |
it grabs headers from several altcoins and estimates the current time |
| 23:25 |
decimation |
as I recall this was needed in the pogo |
| 23:25 |
funkenstein_ |
the DUT1 was needed? |
| 23:25 |
decimation |
no, but some rough clock setting |
| 23:25 |
decimation |
because nobody wanted to trust ntp |
| 23:26 |
BingoBoingo |
<funkenstein_> it grabs headers from several altcoins and estimates the current time << The proper way to build a clock is with brass, a lathe, and a steady hand |
| 23:30 |
funkenstein_ |
hehe, well, i guess this is a meta clock |
| 23:30 |
funkenstein_ |
all it does is collect what miners have said the time is |
| 23:31 |
BingoBoingo |
If you just want to count seconds on a C machine http://www.openntpd.org/ is pretty much the gold standard nao |
| 23:31 |
assbot |
OpenNTPD ... ( http://bit.ly/1H2lG6N ) |
| 23:31 |
decimation |
funkenstein_: it would be useful if you could determine time accuracy and variance |
| 23:32 |
decimation |
as well as how quickly you can acquire time |
| 23:32 |
BingoBoingo |
They had to fight TimeGavin who fought their efforts to clean code and kill retardation |
| 23:33 |
funkenstein_ |
each coin you add increases accuracy, |
| 23:33 |
funkenstein_ |
but the whole thing seems somewhat pointless |
| 23:34 |
BingoBoingo |
And yes, the shitgnomes fight improvement and cleanliness no matter how seemingly trivial a part of the stack janitors want to devomit |
| 23:34 |
BingoBoingo |
funkenstein_: And then ATC or Doge abandoment dicks your averaging effort over |
| 23:35 |
decimation |
funkenstein_: the point is that you can get time without trusting anything outside verified coins |
| 23:35 |
funkenstein_ |
decimation, exactly |
| 23:35 |
danielpbarron |
why include altcoins at all |
| 23:36 |
funkenstein_ |
danielpbarron, to get better than ~ 10 min. accuracy |
| 23:36 |
BingoBoingo |
"coins" have insufficient entropy to be useful as a precision measure of time at all. |
| 23:36 |
decimation |
don't need accuracy |
| 23:37 |
mats |
precision and accuracy are different things |
| 23:37 |
BingoBoingo |
If you want to measure epochs and years BTC blockheight is fine. If you want a race you want something calibrated against nuclear decay. |
| 23:37 |
BingoBoingo |
More random gives you more precise time. |
| 23:37 |
BingoBoingo |
Accurate time doesn't happen |
| 23:38 |
funkenstein_ |
one could always look at the sky |
| 23:38 |
decimation |
mats: I'm aware, don't need precision either |
| 23:38 |
danielpbarron |
funkenstein_, you aren't limited to just the last block |
| 23:39 |
BingoBoingo |
funkenstein_: Timekeeping is a battle between astronomy and nuclear chemistry |
| 23:39 |
danielpbarron |
could be something like the difficulty adjustment only not limited to the last 2 weeks |
| 23:41 |
BingoBoingo |
danielpbarron: Block height is always going to to a rough measure of time due to entropy. Could make a great system for a calendar, poor for slicing up a day though |
| 23:42 |
BingoBoingo |
This though is largely why OpenNTPD beats ISC NTPD http://web.archive.org/web/20050304032724/http://bradknowles.typepad.com/considered_harmful/2004/09/openntpd.html |
| 23:42 |
assbot |
Considered Harmful: OpenNTPd... ... ( http://bit.ly/1H2mJnt ) |
| 23:44 |
* |
BingoBoingo notes that though both are prefixed with shit Shitgnomes and Shitlords are very different things. |
| 23:45 |
BingoBoingo |
And are naturally opposed. |
| 23:46 |
funkenstein_ |
this is liable to get confusing |
| 23:46 |
BingoBoingo |
Shitgnomes leave turd traps and prevent nice things. Shit lords bury gnomes in turds to highlight their wretch. Mike Hearnia is a cononical shitgnome. Theo Deraadt and alf are cononical shitlords |
| 23:46 |
BingoBoingo |
funkenstein_: Everything is heirarchy. |
| 23:46 |
BingoBoingo |
Shitgnomes try to ruin the things shit lords want to use |
| 23:47 |
BingoBoingo |
funkenstein_: Start constructing a memory palace. |
| 23:47 |
mats |
i don't understand how your link relates to why OpenNTPD is better than ISC NTPD |
| 23:48 |
mats |
you are on the edge of coherence tonight |
| 23:49 |
BingoBoingo |
mats: http://www.advogato.org/person/dtucker/diary/52.html << The answer sheet on the ntpd conflict |
| 23:49 |
assbot |
Advogato: Blog for dtucker ... ( http://bit.ly/1H2nnBr ) |
| 23:49 |
funkenstein_ |
when the two shitplates touch: shitquake |
| 23:50 |
BingoBoingo |
Indeed |
| 23:55 |
BingoBoingo |
Eventually such a shitquake will happen such that we start printing upclocked Z80 processors on a 7nm process |
| 23:55 |
mats |
this is too cult-y for me |
| 23:56 |
decimation |
mats: I'm similiarly lost |
| 23:56 |
decimation |
how many sheets to the wind are you? |
| 23:57 |
BingoBoingo |
About 4 sheets |