| 00:03 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: so which obscure german academic is going to have 'known about this for a year' ? same fella as they trotted out for phuctor ? |
| 00:03 |
asciilifeform |
or different one. |
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| 00:04 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: They'll pull out another. They can invent new ones when they run out. |
| 00:05 |
asciilifeform |
poor overworked philippinos |
| 00:05 |
asciilifeform |
thought they were signing up for a quiet life of sending viagra spam |
| 00:06 |
BingoBoingo |
Indeed, all they wanted was to spam boner pills and invent people for FakeBook profiles |
| 00:08 |
asciilifeform |
197380+, counting |
| 00:08 |
danielpbarron |
https://twitter.com/fuckeveryword/status/616093901401686017 |
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| 00:08 |
asciilifeform |
eater - still eating |
| 00:09 |
danielpbarron |
30 link clicks and counting.. |
| 00:10 |
midnightmagic |
well. be sure to post your 'wow' signal somewhere prominent when you find it. |
| 00:10 |
asciilifeform |
it'll be right here. |
| 00:12 |
decimation |
lolz http://blog.samaltman.com/energy < sam altman has a great new startup idea (YC certified): nuclear fusion |
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| 00:12 |
assbot |
Energy - Sam Altman ... ( http://bit.ly/1KpwzyI ) |
| 00:13 |
asciilifeform |
wake me up for the philosopher's stone startup |
| 00:13 |
decimation |
heh |
| 00:13 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: I shit you not: UPower: http://www.upowertech.com/ |
| 00:13 |
assbot |
UPower Technologies, Inc. ... ( http://bit.ly/1KpwL0V ) |
| 00:14 |
* |
asciilifeform wonders how many modern charlatans would carry on business if the consequence of failure to deliver were molten lead down their throat, as it often was for alchemists |
| 00:14 |
decimation |
and http://www.helionenergy.com/ < "By combining our years of experience in fusion, newly available electronics technologies, and a revolutionary design using cutting-edge physics, Helion is making a fusion engine 1,000 times smaller, over 500 times cheaper, and realizable 10 time faster than other projects." |
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| 00:14 |
assbot |
Helion Energy ... ( http://bit.ly/1KpwMC4 ) |
| 00:14 |
decimation |
"this time it's even more realizable!!" |
| 00:14 |
asciilifeform |
gotta love 'than other projects' part |
| 00:15 |
decimation |
they are going the magnetic bottles route |
| 00:15 |
decimation |
according to their infographic |
| 00:15 |
asciilifeform |
'our perpetuum mobile is far more perpetual than that of other projects' |
| 00:15 |
trinque |
ah man, I'll be able to bolt one of these to my emdrive and colonize mars |
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| 00:15 |
decimation |
and 10 times more realizable too! |
| 00:16 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu correctly observed that perpetuum mobile is pretty much the only thing that could save the shitempire |
| 00:16 |
asciilifeform |
and so expect it to become an obsession |
| 00:16 |
asciilifeform |
qin shi huangdi's immortality pills. |
| 00:16 |
trinque |
I will be so sad if a fusion breakthrough happens in the USA for that reason... |
| 00:17 |
decimation |
http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2015/06/30/california-internet-outage/29521335/ |
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| 00:17 |
assbot |
FBI investigating 11 attacks on San Francisco-area Internet lines ... ( http://bit.ly/1IM47Tq ) |
| 00:17 |
asciilifeform |
l0l |
| 00:17 |
asciilifeform |
and they didn't even need a fusion-powered death ray, it seems |
| 00:17 |
trinque |
ctrl-f "china" |
| 00:17 |
trinque |
haven't blamed 'em yet |
| 00:17 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/08/20/the-immortality-financiers-the-billionaires-who-want-to-live-forever.html < larry ellison is literally demanding immortality pills |
| 00:17 |
assbot |
The Immortality Financiers: The Billionaires Who Want to Live Forever - The Daily Beast ... ( http://bit.ly/1IM4cXi ) |
| 00:18 |
asciilifeform |
there once was a time when usg cables were armoured in concrete tubes |
| 00:18 |
asciilifeform |
and switch boxes - guarded |
| 00:18 |
asciilifeform |
today they are in plastic pipes, and - unless belonging to cia/nsa in particular - marked with a bright orange public stake |
| 00:19 |
trinque |
<< According to his biographer, Ellison sees death as “just another kind of corporate opponent he can outfox.” >> |
| 00:19 |
trinque |
bahahahah |
| 00:19 |
asciilifeform |
often the egress point, between the underground conduit and the switch box - is naked entirely |
| 00:19 |
trinque |
culture of narcissists indeed |
| 00:19 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: yeah, because nobody gives a fuck |
| 00:19 |
asciilifeform |
evidently ~somebody~ gave a fuck |
| 00:19 |
asciilifeform |
a few hacks of axe's worth of fuck |
| 00:19 |
decimation |
'they' have 'gotten away' with shit infrastructure for decades, why start now |
| 00:20 |
decimation |
"Mark Peterson, a spokesman for Wave Broadband, said an unspecified number of Sacramento-area customers were knocked offline by the latest attack. He characterized the Tuesday attack as "coordinated" and said the company was working with Level 3 and Zayo to restore service." |
| 00:20 |
trinque |
sci fi story idea: they claim to have invented the immortality treatment, is actually a procedure for implanting your mind control chip |
| 00:20 |
trinque |
probably already done 100 times |
| 00:20 |
asciilifeform |
trinque: ancient |
| 00:20 |
asciilifeform |
!s dulap |
| 00:21 |
assbot |
40 results for 'dulap' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=dulap |
| 00:21 |
asciilifeform |
^ my personal favourite |
| 00:21 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: let this be a wake up call, if you don't have your parachute ready... |
| 00:21 |
trinque |
asciilifeform: cool |
| 00:21 |
asciilifeform |
http://trilema.com/2014/romanian-bloggers-part-2 << mandatory |
| 00:21 |
assbot |
Romanian bloggers, part 2 on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1IM4Kwt ) |
| 00:22 |
asciilifeform |
And the Prince inquired, like all boys his age, upon finding out what The Ritual actually was : |
| 00:22 |
asciilifeform |
- But do I actually have to cut off my cock and balls ?! Couldn't I just promise not to have kids and like, squirt outside ? |
| 00:22 |
asciilifeform |
- It's a symbol, in the shitvi, explained his father, the King. You have to experience real loss to understand the importance of respecting the subterranean world and its rules. It's not easy to do. That's why when someone does it, he's considered truly an adult and counted with people. Until then his notions don't matter. I know what I say may seem absurd to you, but then again one day you'll be prepared, and willing to cut o |
| 00:22 |
asciilifeform |
ff your cock and balls. That day you'll become a man. vii |
| 00:22 |
decimation |
lol |
| 00:26 |
cazalla |
wru deedbot |
| 00:26 |
phf |
asciilifeform: blk format is magic 4 byte sequence (http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/main.cpp#1779), then int32 size, then cblock |
| 00:26 |
asciilifeform |
aha |
| 00:27 |
asciilifeform |
pretty much what i said earlier |
| 00:27 |
phf |
yeap |
| 00:27 |
asciilifeform |
btw, eater is still eating at 200158+ |
| 00:27 |
trinque |
wat |
| 00:27 |
asciilifeform |
not long now |
| 00:27 |
scoopbot_revived |
Qntra (S.QNTR) June 2015 Statement http://qntra.net/2015/07/qntra-s-qntr-june-2015-statement/ |
| 00:27 |
* |
trinque goes to beat deedbot with a wrench |
| 00:28 |
trinque |
it thinks its connected on its end |
| 00:28 |
trinque |
might be a fun common lisp weekend project to redo it in that |
| 00:28 |
trinque |
I'm starting to dislike this golang bot |
| 00:30 |
trinque |
cazalla: there he is if ya need it ^ |
| 00:30 |
cazalla |
deedbot- http://dpaste.com/1VBP07J.txt |
| 00:30 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1KpzkQI ) |
| 00:30 |
deedbot- |
accepted: 1 |
| 00:31 |
decimation |
trinque: does he become 'netsplit'? |
| 00:31 |
trinque |
decimation: I've seen that not handled well too, but this time he was just sitting there as if connected |
| 00:31 |
cazalla |
tfw buying a deciduous tree in the winter and feel like i bought a stick for $20 lol (Hovenia dulcis if anyone cares as much) |
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| 00:33 |
decimation |
cazalla: I recently bought a new house, and I'm trying to figure out what trees I have |
| 00:33 |
decimation |
I'm not sure if I have a walnut or mountain ash, for instance |
| 00:33 |
decimation |
as Jesus says, you will know a tree by its fruit |
| 00:34 |
asciilifeform |
201187+ |
| 00:34 |
cazalla |
i've been buying em online, was a suss about that but all of em have turned up fine so far |
| 00:34 |
cazalla |
a bit* even |
| 00:34 |
asciilifeform |
i'm off to bed. will wake up to the boojum, if it appears. |
| 00:34 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: 'night |
| 00:36 |
cazalla |
decimation, walnut would be a bonus.. i want to get a few pine nut trees but can be up to 10 years before you get anything from it |
| 00:45 |
decimation |
yeah, I agree, would be nice. Apparently the former owners let a weedy russian olive tree grow too |
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| 01:08 |
trinque |
speaking of which, the other weedy trees are legal here at midnight. |
| 01:10 |
BingoBoingo |
Just avoid the black walnuts, Their culture kills everything around them |
| 01:17 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52050 @ 0.00049302 = 25.6617 BTC [+] {3} |
| 01:24 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59579 @ 0.00048228 = 28.7338 BTC [-] {3} |
| 01:27 |
ben_vulpes |
trinque: waiwut? |
| 01:27 |
ben_vulpes |
rly? |
| 01:27 |
ben_vulpes |
asciilifeform: heck of a find, brownie! |
| 01:28 |
* |
ben_vulpes is unlikely to get dedicated testing time over the weekend |
| 01:29 |
ben_vulpes |
escaping america day in canada |
| 01:30 |
mats |
that's a confusing construction |
| 01:31 |
mats |
i wondered if you had moved north |
| 01:32 |
ben_vulpes |
eventually will |
| 01:32 |
ben_vulpes |
population flows aren't hard to predict in this neck of the woods |
| 01:34 |
BingoBoingo |
ben_vulpes: What about south or east? |
| 01:34 |
ben_vulpes |
asciilifeform: this whole eatblock/dumpblock/compare hashes thing really is stellar |
| 01:35 |
trinque |
ben_vulpes: yeh our renegade pot law goes into effect |
| 01:35 |
ben_vulpes |
aha trinque well goodness me |
| 01:35 |
trinque |
wont use the 10th amendment to piss in the NSA's cheerios, but we'll certainly use it for that! |
| 01:35 |
ben_vulpes |
PISSS |
| 01:39 |
* |
BingoBoingo just back from pissing on the runt rosebush, could use the nitrogen |
| 01:41 |
BingoBoingo |
!up HeySteve |
| 01:41 |
HeySteve |
hey, thanks |
| 01:41 |
ben_vulpes |
hey, seve |
| 01:41 |
ben_vulpes |
fuck |
| 01:41 |
HeySteve |
hi! |
| 01:41 |
ben_vulpes |
how's it hangin? |
| 01:41 |
mats |
heh, today's xkcd |
| 01:42 |
HeySteve |
all good and your side, ben_vulpes? |
| 01:43 |
ben_vulpes |
busy |
| 01:43 |
ben_vulpes |
alf sez he has a boojum in the blockchain |
| 01:44 |
HeySteve |
not that I've used their service but I've been reading about all the pushback Uber is getting around the world |
| 01:44 |
HeySteve |
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-30/when-disruption-gets-too-disruptive |
| 01:44 |
assbot |
When Disruption Gets Too Disruptive | Zero Hedge ... ( http://bit.ly/1GLDpt1 ) |
| 01:45 |
HeySteve |
SA can be added to the list, lots of protests against Uber here. was wondering if there's a way to decentralise it... |
| 01:45 |
HeySteve |
BitUber or something |
| 01:45 |
mats |
lol |
| 01:49 |
HeySteve |
Christine Walters, Johburg’s mayoral committee member for transport: "The city would like a South African flavour of black economic empowerment with Uber." - this sort of brain damage has taken over pretty much everything here |
| 01:50 |
mats |
not everything can or should be decentralized |
| 01:50 |
mats |
that's brain damage all on its own |
| 01:51 |
* |
BingoBoingo kinda likes the parallel car systems |
| 01:52 |
mats |
lyft was weird |
| 01:52 |
mats |
driver insisted i sit in front, fist bump him, and talk the whole trip |
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| 01:53 |
mats |
deleted the app after i finished my free ride |
| 01:53 |
HeySteve |
mats, I hear you |
| 01:53 |
HeySteve |
but this is a case where it makes sense |
| 01:56 |
* |
BingoBoingo owns plastic car for this reason. |
| 01:56 |
ben_vulpes |
robot cars when |
| 01:56 |
HeySteve |
so app that handles escrow of fare, oracle uses GPS to verify destination was reached within a certain time, that's it... right? |
| 01:57 |
ben_vulpes |
i want to be able to put 5 million down on a fleet of robot cars and wreck an industry or 5 |
| 01:57 |
ben_vulpes |
trucks, whatever |
| 01:57 |
BingoBoingo |
ben_vulpes: Fuck robot cars. I like pointing my deadly road machine where I like. |
| 01:57 |
ben_vulpes |
starting with cabs |
| 01:57 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23619 @ 0.00046607 = 11.0081 BTC [-] |
| 01:58 |
ben_vulpes |
BingoBoingo: i dream of a world where the insurance to drive your own ass around is prohibitive for all but the ultra-rich |
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| 01:58 |
ben_vulpes |
stop burning all the fucking oil to get your dumb asses around! |
| 01:59 |
ben_vulpes |
i'm speshul tho. i'm cool and i get to drive my car as much as i want :P |
| 01:59 |
BingoBoingo |
Nah, insurance should be cheap. Getting insurance though should be hard through other means. |
| 01:59 |
mats |
you gonna decentralize vehicle inspections, background checks, accounting, driver recruitment, commercial insurance, too? |
| 02:00 |
HeySteve |
eh, sounds like a lot of unecessary paperwork to me |
| 02:00 |
ben_vulpes |
no, i'm just going to put everyone involved with the piloting of vehicles out of work |
| 02:00 |
HeySteve |
rep system ftw |
| 02:00 |
mats |
... |
| 02:01 |
HeySteve |
you worry too much, mats |
| 02:01 |
ben_vulpes |
!b 2 |
| 02:01 |
assbot |
Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2TDGYCX.txt ) |
| 02:01 |
ben_vulpes |
it's a hazard of the dude's occupation. |
| 02:02 |
HeySteve |
ok but the big picture here is it'll give all the regulatory types a fit |
| 02:04 |
mats |
and nobody will care after a dozen women disappear after their last known position was inside one of your cars |
| 02:04 |
ben_vulpes |
dude video cameras |
| 02:04 |
ben_vulpes |
embrace the surveillance state |
| 02:04 |
ben_vulpes |
bezzle up! |
| 02:05 |
HeySteve |
driver will get bad rep after first abduction, so doubt he'll make it to a dozen unless he changes nick and car |
| 02:05 |
ben_vulpes |
WHAT DRIVER |
| 02:05 |
mats |
oh right, we can decentralize the video feed too |
| 02:05 |
HeySteve |
sorry, I mean the driverbot |
| 02:05 |
ben_vulpes |
decentralize nothing |
| 02:05 |
ben_vulpes |
own vehicles, record video |
| 02:06 |
BingoBoingo |
<ben_vulpes> it's a hazard of the dude's occupation. << No, it is a Hazzard, for a certain sort of Duke |
| 02:06 |
ben_vulpes |
BingoBoingo: ba-dump-psh |
| 02:06 |
HeySteve |
lol |
| 02:07 |
mats |
excellent troll |
| 02:07 |
mats |
i concede |
| 02:07 |
ben_vulpes |
what troll |
| 02:07 |
ben_vulpes |
i'm going to buy a bunch of goddamn trucks. |
| 02:08 |
BingoBoingo |
<ben_vulpes> embrace the surveillance state << I may or may not have around 2009 driven a VIP across county and or state lines because they did not want their travel recorded. |
| 02:09 |
mats |
am still amused by folks saying 'well it would be weird if uber wasn't spending tons to expand' after seeing term sheet |
| 02:10 |
mats |
like its normal to run a half billion dollar net loss in a low margin low moat industry |
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| 02:11 |
mats |
would sure like to meet these folks at a poker table |
| 02:12 |
BingoBoingo |
<mats> would sure like to meet these folks at a poker table << Honestly I'd just like to meet them at a bar or the pony track jsut to cycle the games they bleed through, because these colors don't run http://qntra.net/qntra.jpg |
| 02:12 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1GLH368 ) |
| 02:13 |
* |
funkenstein_ prefers decentralized hitchhiking |
| 02:13 |
HeySteve |
el confedejito |
| 02:14 |
BingoBoingo |
<HeySteve> el confedejito << Indeed. Should have taken Mexico First |
| 02:14 |
funkenstein_ |
BingoBoingo, something about that rabbit makes me think it is about to dunk on a regulation basket |
| 02:15 |
BingoBoingo |
funkenstein_: Not my rabbit, inquire with Chief edditoriador cazalla |
| 02:15 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00047469 = 4.0823 BTC [+] |
| 02:15 |
trinque |
ben_vulpes: so like... https://github.com/omcljs/ambly/wiki/ClojureScript-React-Native-Quick-Start |
| 02:15 |
assbot |
ClojureScript React Native Quick Start · omcljs/ambly Wiki · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1GLHmOk ) |
| 02:16 |
cazalla |
BingoBoingo, perhaps Chef would be the appropriate word? :P |
| 02:16 |
BingoBoingo |
lol |
| 02:18 |
ben_vulpes |
<mats> like its normal to run a half billion dollar net loss in a low margin low moat industry << normal american stock ponzi in action |
| 02:18 |
ben_vulpes |
should be legal! let the chumps get chumped. |
| 02:19 |
ben_vulpes |
trinque: you probly want reagent if it isn't rotting in place |
| 02:19 |
funkenstein_ |
blockchain getting hammered today, what is going on? |
| 02:19 |
ben_vulpes |
trinque: i haven't done clj->js in 5-10 months, so everything i know is probably stale |
| 02:19 |
ben_vulpes |
funkenstein_: "hammered"? |
| 02:20 |
trinque |
ben_vulpes: yeah you can use reagent in this manner |
| 02:20 |
funkenstein_ |
like, ddosed |
| 02:20 |
trinque |
wanted to know if the native thing would eat clojurescript, in case I end up having to use it |
| 02:21 |
BingoBoingo |
<funkenstein_> like, ddosed << No, "Stress Tested" which means showing how great present anti-spam limit is because spammers |
| 02:21 |
* |
ben_vulpes goes to read trinque's thing |
| 02:22 |
ben_vulpes |
oh naaaaitve |
| 02:22 |
ben_vulpes |
trinque: long day |
| 02:24 |
ben_vulpes |
good god man there are so many layers in that thing |
| 02:24 |
trinque |
I know right? such complexity mountain |
| 02:24 |
ben_vulpes |
i'm starting to wonder of 'clojure all the things' isn't a poettering-smell |
| 02:24 |
ben_vulpes |
if |
| 02:25 |
trinque |
of course it is |
| 02:25 |
trinque |
and in this case there's a browser underneath |
| 02:25 |
trinque |
so I'm not about to start preferring a particular flavor of shit |
| 02:25 |
trinque |
:D |
| 02:27 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7981 @ 0.000467 = 3.7271 BTC [-] |
| 02:28 |
ben_vulpes |
it just takes the "duct tape the jet fighter to the submarine" mindset to a revolting degree |
| 02:29 |
ben_vulpes |
and i say that as a guy who duct tapes jet fighters to submarines |
| 02:29 |
trinque |
big time |
| 02:29 |
ben_vulpes |
(to deliver a pair of socks that nobody asked for) |
| 02:29 |
trinque |
hopefully this webassembly thing takes some pain out, but I'm sure it'll be a while on that |
| 02:29 |
ben_vulpes |
(that arrive wet) |
| 02:29 |
trinque |
haha |
| 02:30 |
ben_vulpes |
(because "'we'll iterate on it, instead of asking the engineers") |
| 02:30 |
ben_vulpes |
webasm huh? |
| 02:30 |
ben_vulpes |
can that be a common lisp runtime? |
| 02:32 |
funkenstein_ |
well if TX channels do break, it is eventually the resonsibility of the spender to get the TX to a pool - using external channel |
| 02:32 |
ben_vulpes |
sharp lisper might be able to sell software in that space. |
| 02:32 |
trinque |
ben_vulpes: that's what I would like |
| 02:32 |
trinque |
I've looked around for a common lisp on llvm, as that's what farts into webasm |
| 02:32 |
trinque |
haven't found anything that looked like a good decision |
| 02:32 |
trinque |
but maybe one's called for now |
| 02:34 |
ben_vulpes |
di i still have to fuck with the dom in webasm? |
| 02:37 |
trinque |
ben_vulpes: as I understand it, this is like... emscripten bytecode |
| 02:37 |
trinque |
emscripten has an API to poke the DOM I think |
| 02:37 |
trinque |
dunno whether you also get a lower level graphics api |
| 02:39 |
ben_vulpes |
i'm uninterested in anything new that touches the dom |
| 02:40 |
ben_vulpes |
but i'm a reluctant frontend guy to begin with. |
| 02:41 |
BingoBoingo |
Seriously we need to storm an intel fab/fap and start pumping out Z80++/MIPS/and Scheme79 chips |
| 02:41 |
ben_vulpes |
we'll be writing swift and javascript's successors until linus goes insane while still at the helm |
| 02:41 |
ben_vulpes |
and the whole thing implodes |
| 02:42 |
BingoBoingo |
I dunno swift and javascript need successors |
| 02:42 |
ben_vulpes |
objc/dom tech, BingoBoingo |
| 02:42 |
ben_vulpes |
java too likely |
| 02:42 |
BingoBoingo |
ben_vulpes: Do you really need those things? Or do you merely want them? |
| 02:43 |
ben_vulpes |
asciilifeform would love to sleep forever, i would like to program in lisp all day |
| 02:44 |
ben_vulpes |
BingoBoingo: what is the casing of an oil well made of? |
| 02:44 |
BingoBoingo |
Steel. Because the well runs dry before it corrodes |
| 02:45 |
ben_vulpes |
'tis a messy business. men lose hands, minds and lives. |
| 02:45 |
BingoBoingo |
Yeah |
| 02:46 |
ben_vulpes |
hands to the keyboard, minds to VN, lives to the altar of technology. |
| 02:47 |
BingoBoingo |
Kill it with fire. We're already stuck with Boost |
| 02:47 |
* |
ben_vulpes to bed, and tomorrow's blocknews |
| 02:47 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3333 @ 0.00046535 = 1.551 BTC [-] |
| 02:54 |
BingoBoingo |
lol at skills now "rare" http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-33291036 |
| 02:54 |
assbot |
Computer museum seeks BBC Micro fixers - BBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1GLNjLa ) |
| 03:03 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2386 @ 0.00046535 = 1.1103 BTC [-] |
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| 04:02 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16750 @ 0.00048352 = 8.099 BTC [+] |
| 04:10 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52000 @ 0.00049524 = 25.7525 BTC [+] {2} |
| 04:17 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40600 @ 0.00049585 = 20.1315 BTC [+] {3} |
| 04:18 |
shinohai |
;;later tell mod6 Plox pm me when you have a spare 3 minutes, gracias. |
| 04:18 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 04:19 |
BingoBoingo |
shinohai jurov: Either of you find the set of electrum-server bitcoind patches? I'm running into some serious memory hole here. |
| 04:19 |
shinohai |
I haven't yet BingoBoingo but have the same issue :/ |
| 04:20 |
shinohai |
I need to hop over to their chan and try to catch someone online I guess. |
| 04:20 |
BingoBoingo |
Fucking electrum-server github doesn't have any releases or milestones tagged |
| 04:21 |
* |
BingoBoingo hates both Github and "rolling release" |
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| 04:22 |
BingoBoingo |
Even wikipedos save all historical states on those pages |
| 04:22 |
shinohai |
Lol I probably would have gave up on that project for a while if you hadn't mentioned it. |
| 04:22 |
shinohai |
So it piqued my interest. |
| 04:24 |
* |
BingoBoingo this fall wants to be able to run a Foundation bitcoin release powering an electrum server with 200-500 connections. |
| 04:24 |
BingoBoingo |
The electrum server being private and serving IRL known persons |
| 04:25 |
shinohai |
That is what I was thinking, since you can connect only to a specific server |
| 04:27 |
BingoBoingo |
Would also be nice if I could derp some authentication onto the electrum service. |
| 04:28 |
BingoBoingo |
Also... "Ted 2" not so bad |
| 04:29 |
shinohai |
Damn rt printed that damn story too: http://rt.com/usa/270550-bitcoin-energy-hog-critics/ |
| 04:29 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1FQf1Wk ) |
| 04:32 |
HeySteve |
goddamn retards, did they factor in the energy cost of all the VISA execs driving to and from work, just for starters? |
| 04:32 |
BingoBoingo |
HeySteve: Or Visa employing all those call center HamPlanets |
| 04:36 |
HeySteve |
heh |
| 04:36 |
HeySteve |
I wonder how much energy it takes to produce a credit card |
| 04:39 |
HeySteve |
Krugman moaned about the energy costs too, not sure who came up with this nonsense originally but that was at least a year ago |
| 04:42 |
mats |
zzz |
| 04:42 |
shinohai |
https://i.imgur.com/sOJr4Bv.jpg |
| 04:42 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1f03Vcn ) |
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~ 20 minutes ~ |
| 05:02 |
BingoBoingo |
HeySteve: It takes a fuckton of calories of oil to stamp a plastic card indeed |
| 05:02 |
BingoBoingo |
Not to mention the dyes |
| 05:09 |
funkenstein_ |
;;later tell copypaste please test coin-vote.com again, improved |
| 05:09 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 05:19 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43034 @ 0.00049889 = 21.4692 BTC [+] |
| 05:29 |
HeySteve |
https://medium.com/@FavorableCarry/relax-about-bitcoin-electricity-use-1ca2446ae5ab |
| 05:29 |
assbot |
Relax About Bitcoin Electricity Use — Medium ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hu402x ) |
| 05:31 |
BingoBoingo |
"Bring it On" (2000) >> Best movie on USA racial relations in the 21st century |
| 05:40 |
cazalla |
ya really got a thing for those black chicks eh :P |
| 05:44 |
BingoBoingo |
Nah, narrative arc goes Whitey steals from Blackie, blackie gets angry but restrained by their better angels, blackie wins |
| 05:44 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56850 @ 0.00050725 = 28.8372 BTC [+] {3} |
| 05:46 |
cazalla |
i remember the trailer but never saw the movie, tbh i would assume the white girls win |
| 05:48 |
BingoBoingo |
Watching atm following asciilifeform's earlier "Mean Girls" reccomendation |
| 05:48 |
cazalla |
and if memory serves, i think this is the 2nd or 3rd time you've mentioned the movie so is it a personal fav? |
| 05:50 |
* |
BingoBoingo just following reccomendations of his betters |
| 05:53 |
BingoBoingo |
Also, the rare black chicks that aren't HamPlanets |
| 06:04 |
BingoBoingo |
Also total shitlord movie: "Everyone eat half" |
| 06:06 |
BingoBoingo |
"Fat people are harder to throw" |
| 06:18 |
mats |
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2015-07/01/c_134373008.htm |
| 06:18 |
assbot |
China's top legislature ratifies BRICS bank agreement - Xinhua | English.news.cn ... ( http://bit.ly/1eiuVTf ) |
| 06:21 |
cazalla |
BingoBoingo, ya got a veg garden going with tomatoes or anything this summer? |
| 06:26 |
BingoBoingo |
Mostly zucchini so far |
| 06:27 |
mats |
http://s3.eurecom.fr/docs/dimva15_clementine.pdf << ' Cross-Cores Cache Covert Channel' |
| 06:27 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1U7kH9j ) |
| 06:31 |
cazalla |
hmm, got a new warning http://i.imgur.com/66dgj00.png |
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| 06:31 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1U7ljf9 ) |
| 06:41 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33600 @ 0.00050185 = 16.8622 BTC [-] {2} |
| 06:48 |
mats |
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/06/grace/397064 |
| 06:48 |
assbot |
Obama's ‘Amazing Grace’ - The Atlantic ... ( http://bit.ly/1eiyqcp ) |
| 06:52 |
mats |
what an amazing piece of spin wrapped in love and grace |
| 06:52 |
assbot |
AMAZING COMPANY! |
| 06:52 |
mats |
A+ |
| 06:59 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53000 @ 0.00051346 = 27.2134 BTC [+] |
| 07:06 |
shinohai |
@ cazalla what version did u get that warning with? http://i.imgur.com/66dgj00.png |
| 07:06 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1eizXzo ) |
| 07:08 |
cazalla |
shinohai, 0.8.3 |
| 07:09 |
shinohai |
Oh ok, so the war drums are beating xD |
| 07:11 |
cazalla |
i usually get the "warning: display tx may not be current, u need to update your shit or other nodes need to" one |
| 07:11 |
cazalla |
http://i.imgur.com/Me2lpYR.jpg |
| 07:11 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1HwG8x4 ) |
| 07:21 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19626 @ 0.00049754 = 9.7647 BTC [-] |
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| 07:36 |
punkman |
;;ticker |
| 07:36 |
gribble |
Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 256.66, Best ask: 256.67, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 256.66, 24 hour volume: 31835.3990557, 24 hour low: 252.77, 24 hour high: 269.0, 24 hour vwap: None |
| 07:38 |
punkman |
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/01/us/politics/fisa-surveillance-court-rules-nsa-can-resume-bulk-data-collection.html?_r=0 |
| 07:38 |
assbot |
Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1GYUqmH ) |
| 07:52 |
kakobrekla |
http://i.imgur.com/DF17gFE.jpg |
| 07:52 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1GYWZoI ) |
| 07:57 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40500 @ 0.00048188 = 19.5161 BTC [-] {2} |
| 07:58 |
shinohai |
lol @ dat pic |
| 08:00 |
punkman |
http://www.theguardian.com/money/2015/jun/30/greece-capital-controls-confusion-foreign-transactions-credit-cards |
| 08:00 |
assbot |
Greeks abroad have credit cards rejected amid confusion over capital controls | Money | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1GYYnYw ) |
| 08:06 |
jurov |
BingoBoingo: I suffered some hdd crashes and such patches were not backed up.. try looking into old revisions of readme |
| 08:06 |
jurov |
on github |
| 08:06 |
asciilifeform |
ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al: anomaly from last night ~wasn't~ replicated. eater successfully ate blocks through 217336 (shat the day before using 'dumpblock' from earlier sync with mircea_popescu's node) |
| 08:07 |
asciilifeform |
not sure what to blame other than ram fault (experiment was taking place on a portable with non-ecc ram) |
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| 08:28 |
mod6 |
thx for the update asciilifeform |
| 08:35 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64630 @ 0.00050999 = 32.9607 BTC [+] {2} |
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~ 38 minutes ~ |
| 09:14 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11704 @ 0.00048476 = 5.6736 BTC [-] |
| 09:18 |
punkman |
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/10115832/Chinese-farmer-jailed-for-making-a-rubber-alien.html |
| 09:18 |
assbot |
Chinese farmer jailed for making a rubber alien - Telegraph ... ( http://bit.ly/1BY6Agv ) |
| 09:26 |
asciilifeform |
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/11709753/Teenage-girl-with-toilet-phobia-dies-from-heart-attack-after-going-eight-weeks-without-using-loo.html << from earlier link |
| 09:26 |
assbot |
Teenage girl with toilet phobia dies from heart attack after going eight weeks without using loo - Telegraph ... ( http://bit.ly/1dxgiea ) |
| 09:36 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26700 @ 0.00048071 = 12.835 BTC [-] |
| 09:37 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 77700 @ 0.00047801 = 37.1414 BTC [-] {3} |
| 09:43 |
shinohai |
"would frequently withhold her stools" |
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| 10:01 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50600 @ 0.00047487 = 24.0284 BTC [-] |
| 10:08 |
jurov |
kek https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/437 and related http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2014-August/022575.html |
| 10:08 |
assbot |
timeX.google.com provide non standard time · Issue #437 · systemd/systemd · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1dxolrp ) |
| 10:08 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1dxok6P ) |
| 10:09 |
jurov |
"No. We don't add configuration options for a thousand different things. This is really not something I want to see in systemd upstream." |
| 10:10 |
jurov |
(poettering) |
| 10:12 |
jurov |
gavin should ask him to add bitcoin-nxt to systemd. i'm sure reddit would be euphoric beyond measure on that |
| 10:13 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4596 @ 0.00048476 = 2.228 BTC [+] |
| 10:16 |
jurov |
incredible, these lennards contortions "but we are not vendor, systemd is not a product" |
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| 10:33 |
asciilifeform |
achtung, panzers! |
| 10:33 |
asciilifeform |
ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-July/000107.html |
| 10:33 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1dxt8sZ ) |
| 10:33 |
asciilifeform |
'Results of First 'Deterministic Sync' Experiment, With Memory Consumption Plots.' |
| 10:35 |
asciilifeform |
http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/attachments/20150701/pss_2f32fc9570f505a65c46b118c415cae70d57d757.png << probably the figure of interest to most folks here |
| 10:35 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1dxtuQd ) |
| 10:36 |
asciilifeform |
note that the entire shebang is includes |
| 10:36 |
asciilifeform |
(e.g., the pmap output processor, the gnuplot script) |
| 10:37 |
asciilifeform |
also note that plots of figures which remained constant throughout the run were omitted. |
| 10:37 |
jurov |
asciilifeform: iirc you wanted me to remove attachment size limit, what do you plan to send? |
| 10:38 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: the other day, i tried to send these: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-06-2015#1180989 |
| 10:38 |
assbot |
Logged on 29-06-2015 04:51:04; asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://www.loper-os.org/pub/turdsums/readme_s.txt http://www.loper-os.org/pub/turdsums/sums.txt.gz http://www.loper-os.org/pub/turdsums/sums.txt.gz.sig |
| 10:39 |
mod6 |
asciilifeform: nice charts. wd. |
| 10:39 |
asciilifeform |
ben_vulpes, mod6: feel free to use the figures on your blog. they are rather painful to view from ml |
| 10:39 |
asciilifeform |
also i think i have included everything needed to replicate this experiment. |
| 10:40 |
jurov |
such "multimedia" stuff is better to publish on blog |
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| 10:41 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: would it be painful to modify turdatron such that it displays images, in the same way as .txt ? |
| 10:42 |
jurov |
not much, but i'm behind on more important stuff, like less painful sigs tracking |
| 10:42 |
asciilifeform |
ok |
| 10:43 |
mircea_popescu |
good morning assets! |
| 10:43 |
mircea_popescu |
did i actually miss teh ragnarok ? |
| 10:43 |
asciilifeform |
i have omitted any discussion of yesterday's anomaly from this article, because i was unable to replicate it |
| 10:43 |
asciilifeform |
hence by the ancient 'pics or it didn't happen' theorem, it didn't happen... |
| 10:44 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: as far as i can tell, it was an ~actual~ cosmic ray |
| 10:44 |
mircea_popescu |
ima go through two days of logs over here, pray for me. |
| 10:44 |
asciilifeform |
(well, technically single-bit errors in dram are normally from alpha decay of the materials of which the damn thing itself is made) |
| 10:45 |
mircea_popescu |
!up SirJacket_ |
| 10:45 |
* |
asciilifeform bbl, spending some time in wheeled coffin |
| 10:46 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform re teh seed : ima hopefully have it either working or a better idea of wtf is the problem in ~3-4 hoursd. |
| 10:47 |
mircea_popescu |
but so far : i put the chain on new server, moved over binary to work it (hey, should work right ?). it sort-of worked but with weird errors. had to have the thing recompiled, which lead to indicating the chain being broken. except the chain checked out, up to the last block. turns out human error on the splicing of the chain copy, so the ul had to be redone (not all , but the index is large) |
| 10:47 |
mircea_popescu |
and that brings us to the present. |
| 10:49 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-06-2015#1181240 << the one thing left loose is that AFTER such, rms is not saying, to me or to anyone, "hey, drepper moved to the dark side, glibc was forked". the last thing you'd expect rms to be indicted for would be an inclination to "make things work" and fold for convenience rather than stand for principle. nevertheless... |
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| 10:49 |
assbot |
Logged on 29-06-2015 20:38:44; ascii_field: 'Stallman recently tried what I would call a hostile takeover of the glibc development. He tried to conspire behind my back and persuade the other main developers to take control so that in the end he is in control and can dictate whatever pleases him. This attempt failed but he kept on pressuring people everywhere and it got really ugly. In the end I agreed to the creation of a so-called "steering c |
| 10:49 |
mircea_popescu |
weird how the world works. |
| 10:52 |
jurov |
asciilifeform: limit raised to 64M (allows for ~ 50M attachments) |
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| 10:53 |
mircea_popescu |
"*BUT*: updating the C library is no trivial task and it is very easy to damage one's system. Therefore, persons who do not exactly know what to do, should consider using a binary distribution instead, when it becomes available." |
| 10:56 |
mats |
http://www.scribd.com/mobile/doc/270137312/Bitstamp-Incident-Report-2-20-15 |
| 10:56 |
assbot |
Bitstamp Incident Report 2-20-15 ... ( http://bit.ly/1dxy9lp ) |
| 10:57 |
mats |
can drop /mobile/ from the url without issue |
| 10:57 |
mircea_popescu |
can drop scribd too ? |
| 10:58 |
scoopbot_revived |
Eulora mini update, July 1st http://trilema.com/2015/eulora-mini-update-july-1st/ |
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| 10:58 |
decimation |
mats, asciilifeform, others: http://gcc.godbolt.org/#{%22version%22%3A3%2C%22filterAsm%22%3A{%22labels%22%3Atrue%2C%22directives%22%3Atrue%2C%22commentOnly%22%3Atrue}%2C%22compilers%22%3A[{%22sourcez%22%3A%22PTAEBUE8AcFNUgewK4CdQGNEBN4AtZVYAaURdAG0QENtRqA7UWAD2oFtoLYA6AKACWDAC6hsiAO54B3ABQBKPgG8%2BoUENHUA3KrGIl1UAF56oANQBGLQF9QuqTNiyADPJ3W%2BgkaAaTpcxRV1b21dQxNqS3cgAA%3D%3D%22%2C%22compiler%22%3A%22icc1301%22%2C%22options%22%3A%22%22} |
| 10:58 |
assbot |
Compiler Explorer ... ( http://bit.ly/1dxyuEp ) |
| 10:58 |
decimation |
^ to continue our 'useless do before while' thread |
| 10:59 |
mats |
dear god that url |
| 10:59 |
mircea_popescu |
that url scares me |
| 10:59 |
mircea_popescu |
is it turing complete ? |
| 10:59 |
decimation |
yeah, well except would you rather a 'link shortner' to the same? |
| 10:59 |
mircea_popescu |
assbot provides |
| 10:59 |
decimation |
exactly |
| 11:00 |
mircea_popescu |
i just never saw a kernel url before is all. |
| 11:01 |
mircea_popescu |
decimation maybe im slow, but what about it ? a push a pop two moves an imul |
| 11:03 |
decimation |
no I'm trying to figure it out too |
| 11:03 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181359 << to expound on that : a trader is not a commodity enthusiast. in general enthusiasts make very poor traders, which is why all the gold bugs are poor. |
| 11:03 |
assbot |
Logged on 30-06-2015 00:10:56; mircea_popescu: i have my doubts. |
| 11:03 |
decimation |
I mean, it's legal C, but why both |
| 11:03 |
decimation |
mircea_popescu: that was Taleb's point too |
| 11:03 |
mircea_popescu |
aha |
| 11:03 |
decimation |
I think it got cut off but the guy who thought 'green lumber' was literally boards painted green was an excellent trader |
| 11:04 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah it's in there. |
| 11:04 |
decimation |
and it is what Fat Tony was talking about: oil traders 'all thought' that they knew about oil and the iraq war, whereas he saw that 'geopolitical analysis' and 'oil trade' isn't the 'same ting' |
| 11:05 |
mircea_popescu |
!up PFate |
| 11:06 |
mircea_popescu |
same principle yields "great politicians" who have no particular interest in what the flag looks like. |
| 11:06 |
decimation |
no I bring up the do{stuff} while(0) because it's in amazon's new openssl 'replacement' |
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| 11:07 |
decimation |
https://github.com/awslabs/s2n/blob/master/utils/s2n_safety.h < here in the memcpy_check |
| 11:07 |
assbot |
s2n/s2n_safety.h at master · awslabs/s2n · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1dxAcpj ) |
| 11:07 |
decimation |
the library is well written C99 |
| 11:07 |
mats |
http://www.docdroid.net/159hk/270137312-bitstamp-incident-report-2-20-15.pdf.html reupload to a 'free online document hosting tool' |
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| 11:07 |
assbot |
270137312-Bitstamp-Incident-Report-2-20-15.pdf - DocDroid ... ( http://bit.ly/1dxAgWn ) |
| 11:07 |
mats |
BingoBoingo: ^ may be good for a scoop? not sure how new this information is |
| 11:08 |
decimation |
#define memcpy_check( d, s, n ) do { notnull_check( (d) ); if ( memcpy( (d), (s), (n)) != (d) ) { S2N_ERROR(S2N_ERR_MEMCPY); } } while(0) |
| 11:08 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: ^ can you explain why the do{} while(0) structure? |
| 11:08 |
mats |
decimation: your link loads 'hello world' in the editor -- toss it into pastein? |
| 11:09 |
decimation |
here's a working shortener http://goo.gl/w7e54H |
| 11:09 |
assbot |
Compiler Explorer ... ( http://bit.ly/1dxAGfb ) |
| 11:09 |
decimation |
note that gcc creates exactly the same code for that structure |
| 11:09 |
mircea_popescu |
!up stoon |
| 11:09 |
decimation |
(compared to the non-do{}while(0) version) |
| 11:10 |
decimation |
intel's icc just puts in a useless extra check |
| 11:11 |
* |
decimation back to the mines |
| 11:12 |
mircea_popescu |
i have nfi. |
| 11:14 |
mats |
not sure either. am inquiring now. |
| 11:14 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181393 << spurious note left in accidentally. i was going to do some reverse tracking of the connecting ips, but in the end decided to just publish them, you can do yourself same thing. |
| 11:14 |
assbot |
Logged on 30-06-2015 00:30:42; mike_c: mircea_popescu: You left us hanging there! Since it's missing, I must know what those points of interest are :) |
| 11:16 |
mike_c |
ah, thanks. |
| 11:16 |
mats |
decimation: man in #asm sez, normally one uses that in #define's due to limitations on preprocessor macro syntax |
| 11:17 |
mircea_popescu |
mike_c sorry to have caused your genes distress :D |
| 11:20 |
mats |
decimation: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/923822/whats-the-use-of-do-while0-when-we-define-a-macro |
| 11:20 |
assbot |
c - What's the use of do while(0) when we define a macro? - Stack Overflow ... ( http://bit.ly/1dxDtVD ) |
| 11:22 |
decimation |
mats: ah, ty. another link (from the above stackoverflow link) http://c-faq.com/cpp/multistmt.html |
| 11:22 |
assbot |
Question 10.4 ... ( http://bit.ly/1f19S8W ) |
| 11:22 |
* |
decimation really back to mines :) |
| 11:28 |
mats |
"One of these, UPE_application_form.doc, contained obfuscated malicious VBA script. When opened, this script ran automatically and pulled down a malicious file from IP address 185.31.209.145, thereby compromising [Kodric's] machine." |
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| 11:29 |
mats |
hue |
| 11:29 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181418 << it's very funny to me, this. idiots are carefully averting other idiots' eyes from important shit. which is altogether a good thing, last fucking thing anyone wants is a deluge of "well meaning" idiots and other "enthusiasts". at least if the anyone in question stops and thinks about it for five minutes. |
| 11:29 |
assbot |
Logged on 30-06-2015 00:55:29; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181377 << my current understanding is that the blackout in 'reddit' et al. re: therealbitcoin is more or less total. |
| 11:30 |
mircea_popescu |
this sort of service one couldn't pay for, but i doubt they providing it are aware. somehow it seems ot me it'd be pretty painful if they found out. |
| 11:30 |
mod6 |
forgot post this in here lastnight: http://thebitcoin.foundation/ml/btc-dev/2015-July/000106.html |
| 11:30 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1dxFNMs ) |
| 11:32 |
mircea_popescu |
mats what is that ? |
| 11:33 |
mats |
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182807 << Bitstamp Incident Report February 20, 2015 |
| 11:33 |
assbot |
Logged on 01-07-2015 15:07:40; mats: http://www.docdroid.net/159hk/270137312-bitstamp-incident-report-2-20-15.pdf.html reupload to a 'free online document hosting tool' |
| 11:33 |
mircea_popescu |
bwhaahah. |
| 11:33 |
mircea_popescu |
mind publishing the plaintext somewhere, say on your blog ? the turd is uselessly opaque, and for instance google doesn'ty know it |
| 11:33 |
mircea_popescu |
google should know it. |
| 11:34 |
mats |
gonna wait for BingoBoingo to wake up and get to it if you don't mind, i don't have a blog |
| 11:34 |
mircea_popescu |
aite. |
| 11:34 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181432 << so it doesn't pay NOT to shoot at police. |
| 11:34 |
assbot |
Logged on 30-06-2015 01:55:29; decimation: "Authorities have warned from the start that the pair of fugitives might get their hands on guns. Matt did. And it may have been his undoing at that moment. Matt didn't shoot, but he also didn't comply with officers' order, so they opened fire." |
| 11:34 |
mircea_popescu |
just like it doesn't pay to NOT murder the chick you just raped. |
| 11:35 |
mircea_popescu |
just like on and on. the stupidity of us law enforcement is ever more fantastic. |
| 11:35 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181438 << no, it was obvious. |
| 11:35 |
assbot |
Logged on 30-06-2015 02:32:10; asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al: in case this was not clear, it is now possible for the first time to carry out FULLY DETERMINISTIC tests of therealbitcoin (memory consumption, etc) by denying a node a net connection and syncing from disk using 'eatblock'. |
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| 11:37 |
jurov |
!mpif |
| 11:37 |
assbot |
BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021438 B (Total: 425.93 B). Delta: -0.03 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.000207 BTC [+] |
| 11:37 |
jurov |
!t m f.mpif |
| 11:37 |
assbot |
Some are born to endless night. |
| 11:37 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181467 << o yeah. |
| 11:37 |
assbot |
Logged on 30-06-2015 02:52:19; asciilifeform: it is now also possible to elementarily ferret out certain kinds of leaks - e.g., does importing the same bastard block ten thousand times result in an increase in ram footprint ? if so, we have leak |
| 11:37 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov did not trade o.O |
| 11:38 |
jurov |
in fact it did, but outside the book |
| 11:38 |
mircea_popescu |
o.O |
| 11:38 |
jurov |
ofc, report upcoming |
| 11:42 |
mircea_popescu |
cool |
| 11:47 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181511 << there's a fascination with precarity i suspect the culprit here. to illustrate hwat i mean, suppose we take the island of hawaii cca 1815. at this point, the indigent savages are going about naked doing their indigent savagery, which does not much include murdering each other, and pointedly no writing or so on. |
| 11:47 |
assbot |
Logged on 30-06-2015 03:33:43; asciilifeform: you can't even win 'underhanded c contest' with them. they're ~screamingly~ bad ideas. |
| 11:48 |
mircea_popescu |
we introduce to these people the practice and contest of yachting. this is hard work, in that you have to make a yacht, and then sail it. |
| 11:48 |
mircea_popescu |
some of the healty, sane boys will put a lot of work into it, and get good enough to compete with us. |
| 11:49 |
mircea_popescu |
some of the anal children will instead make a "different" version of yachthing, which will consist of, for instance, birling. |
| 11:49 |
mircea_popescu |
why ? because intelligence and ambition are unrelated, and the ambitiously ungifted have absolutely no incentive in recognizing their shortcoming. it's not that it's cheaper to pretend. it's that literally no other alternative is present. |
| 11:50 |
mircea_popescu |
and so... they "are crypto entusiasts" and "You can go much stronger than that" and so on. |
| 11:50 |
mircea_popescu |
all the avatars of orphaned boyhood, kids who grow up without a father have no idea what games to play are there. |
| 11:52 |
mircea_popescu |
but they also don't have a retroactive abortion mechanism (not that they aren't trying, look at any ghetto ever). |
| 11:55 |
mod6 |
lol birling |
| 11:56 |
mircea_popescu |
it's a thing. |
| 11:58 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, the broadly fraudulent proposition that "you can make yourself better through X Y Z" be they hard work or prayer or anything else fundamentally exists as a direly needed social control mechanism. because the social cost of the ambitiously ungifted is plainly immense, societies have universally and often independently constructed this method to deal with the afflicted. |
| 11:59 |
mircea_popescu |
now, it existed as a cleaner, more useful thing before being coopted for this purpose, of course. much like anything else that's now being used to make large population densities possible was a lot nicer before being shat on |
| 12:01 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181539 << not anymore than putin'd buy greece. |
| 12:01 |
assbot |
Logged on 30-06-2015 04:05:21; asciilifeform: if kim jong un had balls, perhaps he'd buy it. |
| 12:01 |
mircea_popescu |
who buys old whores and for what purpose ? |
| 12:06 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181585 << there is something in the entire "cutting off nose to spite your own face" thing. absent this, the pissant has no incentive to uinderstand it is a tiny spec, and may even pretend itself equal to every other asshole out there. |
| 12:06 |
assbot |
Logged on 30-06-2015 04:41:25; asciilifeform: hard to picture a sorrier bunch of bitter schmucks, eagerly taking it up the arse from history's biggest and most obscene communist mega-empire (usg) to spite their little piss-ant one |
| 12:08 |
mircea_popescu |
http://qntra.net/2015/06/pressure-in-the-united-states-mounts-to-ban-symbols-of-rebellion-against-federal-government/#comment-29482 << can't tell if serious... |
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| 12:08 |
assbot |
Pressure in the United States Mounts to Ban Symbols of Rebellion Against Federal Government | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1LV0ePi ) |
| 12:08 |
mircea_popescu |
"The legislative act exempted pensions from all measures, with initial plans to open some bank branches on Wednesday and full pensions being paid out. " << dude, fuck this shit. since when can there be exceptions ? |
| 12:09 |
mircea_popescu |
"The temporary prohibition is imposed in accordance with Article 20 of the Regulation (EU) No 236/2012 of the European Parliament and of the Council of 14 March 2012 on short selling and certain aspects of credit default swaps (OJ L 86/1, 2012)." << riiight. |
| 12:10 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181605 << more than twitter! IT COULD BUY RUSSIA!!1 |
| 12:10 |
assbot |
Logged on 30-06-2015 05:05:52; decimation: lol http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-06-30/uber-bonds-term-sheet-reveals-470-million-in-operating-losses < related |
| 12:10 |
mircea_popescu |
idiots. |
| 12:12 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181635 << pretty good dilemma. too bad it is purely logical which means it has nothing to do with the electoral process. |
| 12:12 |
assbot |
Logged on 30-06-2015 05:34:04; decimation: which defeats the point of asking individuals to make a decision for the group |
| 12:13 |
mircea_popescu |
He admitted that it would be difficult to collect the money from the Kentucky man. |
| 12:13 |
mircea_popescu |
Just because I get a judgement, its a piece of paperI can try to put a lien on his house, take his car, but he has various homestead exemptions, he added, citing a law in Kentucky and elsewhere that exists to protect homeowners with deceased spouses who owe money to creditors. |
| 12:13 |
mircea_popescu |
heh. |
| 12:14 |
mircea_popescu |
creditor owed can not bother the debtor. meanwhile usg can go burn down his house for no reason. |
| 12:17 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15850 @ 0.00051312 = 8.133 BTC [+] {2} |
| 12:18 |
mircea_popescu |
"These aren't words that an American or a European politician can utter in public, and perhaps not even whisper to their significant other while lying in bed, because the American eavesdroppers might overhear them, and then the politician in question would get the Dominique Strauss-Kahn treatment" |
| 12:18 |
mircea_popescu |
heh. |
| 12:23 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, as usual for orlov : the intro is right : yes, the average expenditure average us citizen can expect to make reasonably is ~1 dollar a day. yes things are going the way of http://trilema.com/2014/the-battlefield-of-the-future/#selection-137.333-137.381 |
| 12:23 |
assbot |
The battlefield of the future on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1LV2nud ) |
| 12:23 |
mircea_popescu |
aka, "Pork bellies go for ~$1 per pound, and so do you". |
| 12:23 |
mircea_popescu |
and so no, there's no serious question that the future of the us is anything else or anything different from the africa which it has for so long aimed to join. |
| 12:24 |
mircea_popescu |
nevertheless, the proposition that greece is a democracy is beyond laughable, and in general he takes a completely nonsequitur turn straight into nonsense midway. |
| 12:24 |
punkman |
more like derpocracy |
| 12:26 |
mircea_popescu |
sorta like italians but the chicks have bigger asses. |
| 12:27 |
mircea_popescu |
otherwise, same tv-driven rank nonsense & feelings. |
| 12:38 |
mircea_popescu |
!gettrust Jautenim |
| 12:38 |
assbot |
Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user Jautenim: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=mircea_popescu&to=Jautenim | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/Jautenim/ |
| 12:38 |
mircea_popescu |
aok than |
| 12:39 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181766 << not worth a thousand words eh ? |
| 12:39 |
assbot |
Logged on 30-06-2015 15:45:52; assbot: Logged on 28-06-2015 07:53:07; cazalla: ben_vulpes, ay yo charts don't be earning no s.qntr shares CC: pete_dushenski |
| 12:39 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181774 << where the fuck doies cisco have money from ? they've made losses about on par with uber |
| 12:39 |
assbot |
Logged on 30-06-2015 15:57:34; pete_dushenski: "Cisco Systems Inc (CSCO.O) said on Tuesday it would buy OpenDNS, a privately held cloud-based security company, for $635 million in cash and equity awards to beef up its security business." << might as well consolidate the crown corps, save on letterhead. |
| 12:39 |
mircea_popescu |
o wait... same place uber gets it right ? |
| 12:40 |
mircea_popescu |
"we want a db of everyone's travels, what is this bs where people can get a cab in peace" |
| 12:40 |
mircea_popescu |
fucktards already. i'll use uber just after i go to work for a transvestite brothel in bang gook. |
| 12:42 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37470 @ 0.00051412 = 19.2641 BTC [+] {2} |
| 12:42 |
mircea_popescu |
woot! |
| 12:43 |
mircea_popescu |
!up joshbuddy |
| 12:46 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181835 << that's really not the best idea. make it a hammoc, something. |
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| 12:46 |
assbot |
Logged on 30-06-2015 16:23:50; ben_vulpes: yeah some cosleeping to begin with |
| 12:47 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181868 << yes he is. i just checked above. |
| 12:47 |
assbot |
Logged on 30-06-2015 17:59:00; mod6: ah, i don't think you're in assbot's L2. Sorry if I wasted your time. Just send the patch to me: modsix@gmail.com |
| 12:48 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov needs to stop keyboard-fu-ing eulora and fix the list!11eleventy. |
| 12:49 |
jurov |
!gettrust assbot jautenim |
| 12:49 |
assbot |
Trust relationship from user assbot to user jautenim: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=assbot&to=jautenim | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/jautenim/ |
| 12:54 |
pete_dushenski |
!up ascii_field |
| 12:54 |
pete_dushenski |
howdy howdy |
| 12:54 |
mircea_popescu |
Jautenim voice yourself plox. |
| 12:54 |
Jautenim |
worth noting that I used a subkey |
| 12:54 |
Jautenim |
not the primary one |
| 12:54 |
mircea_popescu |
that'd be it. |
| 12:55 |
jurov |
Jautenim: try resending it |
| 12:55 |
Jautenim |
damn |
| 12:55 |
Jautenim |
it is locked away in the fuhrerbunker |
| 12:55 |
ascii_field |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182774 << ty jurov! |
| 12:55 |
assbot |
Logged on 01-07-2015 14:52:26; jurov: asciilifeform: limit raised to 64M (allows for ~ 50M attachments) |
| 12:56 |
pete_dushenski |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182882 << based on 2nd comment, i'm going to say he's a troll |
| 12:56 |
assbot |
Logged on 01-07-2015 16:08:00; mircea_popescu: http://qntra.net/2015/06/pressure-in-the-united-states-mounts-to-ban-symbols-of-rebellion-against-federal-government/#comment-29482 << can't tell if serious... |
| 12:56 |
ascii_field |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182780 << my broadcast will be out tonight, wanted to include the last experiment in it |
| 12:56 |
assbot |
Logged on 01-07-2015 14:58:12; scoopbot_revived: Eulora mini update, July 1st http://trilema.com/2015/eulora-mini-update-july-1st/ |
| 12:56 |
pete_dushenski |
the 'Keep the symbol in government forever.' bit it too rich to be real. |
| 12:57 |
ascii_field |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182771 << actually rms was 'for convenience' from day 1, when he abandoned the lispmachine |
| 12:57 |
assbot |
Logged on 01-07-2015 14:49:54; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-06-2015#1181240 << the one thing left loose is that AFTER such, rms is not saying, to me or to anyone, "hey, drepper moved to the dark side, glibc was forked". the last thing you'd expect rms to be indicted for would be an inclination to "make things work" and fold for convenience rather than stand for principle. nevertheless... |
| 12:57 |
ascii_field |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182803 << NO! for fuxxsake, read it. it DOES NOT IMPLEMENT CRYPTO ROUTINES, rides on top of existing lib (e.g., openssl) |
| 12:57 |
assbot |
Logged on 01-07-2015 15:06:32; decimation: no I bring up the do{stuff} while(0) because it's in amazon's new openssl 'replacement' |
| 12:57 |
mircea_popescu |
i'll tell you im getting plenty sick of this entire "everything around is a bug's nest" |
| 12:57 |
ascii_field |
media lied, as is sop |
| 12:58 |
mircea_popescu |
i wasn't born a bug and how the fuck did i end up here ?! |
| 12:58 |
ascii_field |
bzzzzpsshss |
| 12:58 |
mircea_popescu |
wait, amazon is replacing shit by vacu-packing it in convenient, easy sized, value packs ? |
| 12:58 |
mircea_popescu |
herp. |
| 12:59 |
ascii_field |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182832 << run moar winblowz!! |
| 12:59 |
assbot |
Logged on 01-07-2015 15:28:43; mats: "One of these, UPE_application_form.doc, contained obfuscated malicious VBA script. When opened, this script ran automatically and pulled down a malicious file from IP address 185.31.209.145, thereby compromising [Kodric's] machine." |
| 12:59 |
mircea_popescu |
how does this shit even work ? can their word editor open net connections !? |
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| 12:59 |
mircea_popescu |
what is it, emacs ? |
| 12:59 |
ascii_field |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182852 << did this. posted as of this morning to ml. |
| 12:59 |
assbot |
Logged on 01-07-2015 15:35:54; assbot: Logged on 30-06-2015 02:32:10; asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al: in case this was not clear, it is now possible for the first time to carry out FULLY DETERMINISTIC tests of therealbitcoin (memory consumption, etc) by denying a node a net connection and syncing from disk using 'eatblock'. |
| 13:00 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1182068 << yeah i know. |
| 13:00 |
assbot |
Logged on 30-06-2015 21:48:04; shinohai: There is a slight spelling error in this document: http://thebitcoin.foundation/declaration.txt |
| 13:00 |
kakobrekla |
that was Nejces brother computer: "IT security, enterprise servers/storage. IT wizard @ Bitstamp" source: https://twitter.com/ilukeberry |
| 13:00 |
assbot |
Luka Kodrič (@ilukeberry) | Twitter ... ( http://bit.ly/1f1B47o ) |
| 13:00 |
mircea_popescu |
!s "i can't spell" |
| 13:00 |
assbot |
4 results for '"i can't spell"' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=%22i+can%27t+spell%22 |
| 13:01 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla loller |
| 13:01 |
mats |
and he still has responsibilities after losing bidness 18,000 BTC and 650k+ USD |
| 13:01 |
mats |
what an organization |
| 13:02 |
mircea_popescu |
that's ok, they'll make it back OUT OF BEING LEGAL AND COMPLIANT!!11 |
| 13:02 |
mircea_popescu |
nuts. |
| 13:02 |
mats |
smells of inside job if i ever sniffed one |
| 13:02 |
jurov |
And God spake unto them: "Go forth and regulate". |
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| 13:03 |
chetty |
careful what you sniff |
| 13:03 |
ascii_field |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182954 << of course it can ! |
| 13:03 |
assbot |
Logged on 01-07-2015 16:59:51; mircea_popescu: how does this shit even work ? can their word editor open net connections !? |
| 13:03 |
mircea_popescu |
who wants to run an editor that can open the net ? |
| 13:04 |
ascii_field |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182970 << misread, with last line, as 'go forth and sniff glue' |
| 13:04 |
assbot |
Logged on 01-07-2015 17:02:55; jurov: And God spake unto them: "Go forth and regulate". |
| 13:04 |
mircea_popescu |
i really don't get this "put all the things in all the things" nonsense. |
| 13:04 |
mircea_popescu |
do these people's heads come with feet in them ? |
| 13:04 |
mircea_popescu |
"oh you know, if your head needs to take a walk - now it can!" |
| 13:05 |
pete_dushenski |
"why have a symphony when you can have a one-man-band !" |
| 13:05 |
jurov |
and keep talking to google time servers |
| 13:05 |
pete_dushenski |
"it's moar efficient!" |
| 13:06 |
mircea_popescu |
"i got a new girlfriend - she came with a built in boyfriend!" |
| 13:06 |
mats |
another goxxing is just a matter of time at this point |
| 13:06 |
mats |
everybody in the org using windows, wtf |
| 13:06 |
mircea_popescu |
mats so they're practically like the US DoD. |
| 13:08 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38650 @ 0.00051466 = 19.8916 BTC [+] |
| 13:09 |
mats |
it shocks the mind that such people are trusted with anything |
| 13:09 |
mircea_popescu |
ascii_field : LoadBlockIndex(): hashBestChain=00000000000000001160 height=362808 << confirmed. my chain is fine, delay and difficulties to date due to operator error. |
| 13:09 |
mircea_popescu |
the seeder is coming back online momentarily. for my own curiosity, re-start the syncing and compare the two sets you get. |
| 13:09 |
ascii_field |
ahahahaha |
| 13:09 |
mats |
and on the subject of shock... i still can't get over the fact that Stuxnet happened |
| 13:09 |
ascii_field |
say when |
| 13:10 |
jurov |
mats actually show me one person that is trusted with $$$ or lives and does *not* use windows |
| 13:10 |
jurov |
we need some role models here |
| 13:10 |
mats |
chinese, afaik |
| 13:10 |
jurov |
that's not one person |
| 13:10 |
mircea_popescu |
i've last used windows xp a decade ago to play might and magic. |
| 13:11 |
mircea_popescu |
meanwhile they figured out how to make the old games run in emulator. |
| 13:12 |
jurov |
my own fkn brother simlates megawatts of energy and kilotons of overheated steam using... excel. |
| 13:12 |
jurov |
tried ooo, rejected in disgust |
| 13:12 |
ascii_field |
mircea_popescu: connected, stalled |
| 13:12 |
mircea_popescu |
ascii_field o.O |
| 13:12 |
jurov |
and programming? why? |
| 13:12 |
mircea_popescu |
you have got to be kidding me. |
| 13:13 |
ascii_field |
same pattern as before |
| 13:13 |
mircea_popescu |
this is ridiculous. |
| 13:13 |
ascii_field |
short burst, followed by long period of wtf |
| 13:13 |
mircea_popescu |
ok so last time there was a bona fide index/db problem, which made it be slow and painful. |
| 13:13 |
mats |
ooo hasn't been patched in years |
| 13:13 |
mircea_popescu |
but atm it's zipping around doing 2mbps |
| 13:13 |
mats |
afaik |
| 13:14 |
ascii_field |
mircea_popescu: all i can say is that i'm seeing ~exactly~ same pattern as before |
| 13:14 |
ascii_field |
socket open, nothing moves |
| 13:14 |
mircea_popescu |
so... it wasn't that then ?! |
| 13:14 |
* |
mircea_popescu baffled. |
| 13:14 |
ascii_field |
evidently not. |
| 13:15 |
jurov |
tried to break in gdb? |
| 13:15 |
mircea_popescu |
i mean, there were occasional spikes in load in the previous incarnation, and i figured those may be it. but now it's smooth as butter. |
| 13:15 |
ascii_field |
jurov: try to make sense of any of it in gdb |
| 13:15 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov you ever tried that nm lol. |
| 13:15 |
kakobrekla |
anyone saved that buttstamp doc, scribd removed it |
| 13:16 |
jurov |
http://www.docdroid.net/159hk/270137312-bitstamp-incident-report-2-20-15.pdf.html |
| 13:16 |
assbot |
270137312-Bitstamp-Incident-Report-2-20-15.pdf - DocDroid ... ( http://bit.ly/1f1E6bX ) |
| 13:16 |
mircea_popescu |
fucking hate scribd bs |
| 13:16 |
kakobrekla |
thanks jurov |
| 13:16 |
mircea_popescu |
which hate has apparently saved a bit of internet comedy from extinction. |
| 13:17 |
ascii_field |
mircea_popescu: about 5 sec burst of data, followed by 40-infinity sec. of silence. |
| 13:18 |
mircea_popescu |
ascii_field i can at this point guarantee to you it is not due to this machine. |
| 13:18 |
mircea_popescu |
which just finished syncing, btw. |
| 13:18 |
ascii_field |
mircea_popescu: pretty sure we are being fucked with downstream. |
| 13:19 |
mircea_popescu |
is it possible your isp is being fucktarded ? |
| 13:19 |
mircea_popescu |
like doesn't want you gaming or whatever the nutty fuck ? |
| 13:19 |
ascii_field |
i'm sitting on a different, industrial isp, 100km away from home |
| 13:19 |
ascii_field |
and i've never had the slightest problem of the kind suggested above, with either |
| 13:19 |
* |
ascii_field pays serious coin for bandwidth |
| 13:20 |
mircea_popescu |
nuts. |
| 13:20 |
kakobrekla |
another mirror if that one gets taken down http://pdfsr.com/pdf/270137312-bitstamp-incident-report-2-20-15.pdf |
| 13:20 |
assbot |
270137312-Bitstamp-Incident-Report-2-20-15.pdf - PdfSR.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1f1EN4O ) |
| 13:20 |
kakobrekla |
hm |
| 13:20 |
ascii_field |
kakobrekla: 'required adobe flash player' |
| 13:20 |
kakobrekla |
i guess i can just put it on ba files server |
| 13:21 |
mircea_popescu |
maybe bb or someone de-pdfs it already |
| 13:22 |
mircea_popescu |
aaand in other news, http://36.media.tumblr.com/53844fb220f5d0917b9c844907c9f2f4/tumblr_nh26kcSHGN1ti99ofo1_1280.jpg |
| 13:22 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1f1FnQb ) |
| 13:23 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1182121 << aahhahaha check this out alfie! dept of propaganda thinks it's lost. |
| 13:23 |
assbot |
Logged on 30-06-2015 22:40:30; shinohai: hue, motherboard: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/bitcoin-is-unsustainable?trk_source=homepage-lede |
| 13:24 |
mircea_popescu |
go sustain yourselves on cocks, nameless "journalists". |
| 13:24 |
punkman |
http://www.businessinsider.com/david-cameron-encryption-back-doors-iphone-whatsapp-2015-7 |
| 13:24 |
assbot |
David Cameron says he wants back doors in encyption products - Business Insider ... ( http://bit.ly/1f1FEm3 ) |
| 13:24 |
punkman |
"We have always been able, on the authority of the home secretary, to sign a warrant and intercept a phone call, a mobile phone call or other media communications, but the question we must ask ourselves is whether, as technology develops, we are content to leave a safe space" |
| 13:24 |
asciilifeform |
!up ascii_field |
| 13:24 |
punkman |
"for terrorists to communicate with each other." |
| 13:24 |
ascii_field |
mircea_popescu: what is peculiar about this piece? reads like the same old crap |
| 13:25 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20300 @ 0.00051466 = 10.4476 BTC [+] |
| 13:25 |
mircea_popescu |
nah, they had the "unsustainable" crapola on the back burner for a coupla years, as they were hoping they may actually elbow themselves into relevancy all through 2013-14 |
| 13:25 |
mircea_popescu |
we're moving back to 2011-2012 it would seem. |
| 13:25 |
ascii_field |
and as someone pointed out in last night's thread, let's compute the energy lost by failing to boil visa, mastercard execs into biodiesel |
| 13:26 |
mircea_popescu |
the meta point is of interest here. |
| 13:26 |
mircea_popescu |
they've realligned. |
| 13:26 |
ascii_field |
mircea_popescu: your node continues to emit bursts |
| 13:26 |
mircea_popescu |
as it is i have nfi what to do about it. |
| 13:27 |
ascii_field |
mircea_popescu: put copy of same in another country, i'll compare. |
| 13:27 |
mircea_popescu |
alrighty. |
| 13:28 |
mircea_popescu |
it'll be a few days to get everything settled out. |
| 13:29 |
ascii_field |
...and now it's rolling |
| 13:29 |
* |
ascii_field wonders if it was transmitting into a philippino buffer |
| 13:29 |
ascii_field |
which had to fill |
| 13:30 |
mircea_popescu |
oh ? |
| 13:31 |
ascii_field |
aha |
| 13:31 |
ascii_field |
39000+ |
| 13:32 |
ascii_field |
45000+ |
| 13:32 |
ascii_field |
...and counting |
| 13:32 |
mircea_popescu |
that sounds morel ike it. |
| 13:33 |
decimation |
ascii_field: shit, you are right, the amazon s2d is just a pretty TLS wrapper around the openssl crypto turd |
| 13:33 |
decimation |
s2n even |
| 13:33 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182162 << all clients that sync after a certain blkxxxx file was filled will get the exact same file (different from any of the ones of the peers they sync from). all clients that sync durin will get different ones |
| 13:33 |
assbot |
Logged on 01-07-2015 00:25:18; mod6: i have 3 full-sync'd chains from between January and March, all have the same blk0001.dat hash: sha256sum blk0001.dat \ 7aac5826b91b4f87a2e9534e0e38e8d64ed21aff8a4eb8ff8dde4e726e67fe1a blk0001.dat |
| 13:33 |
decimation |
wtf is the point |
| 13:34 |
ascii_field |
mircea_popescu: iirc i explained this last night |
| 13:34 |
mircea_popescu |
ah ok. |
| 13:34 |
ascii_field |
(thing stows blocks in real time, never erases. see src) |
| 13:34 |
mircea_popescu |
i was doing like 5 things at once past coupla days and so ended up leaving all sorts of things unexplained fully. |
| 13:34 |
* |
ascii_field also. |
| 13:34 |
decimation |
mircea_popescu: bottom line, satoshi stores a binary blob of the blockchain AND also the bdb database |
| 13:35 |
decimation |
in theory, if orphans are removed, we should yeild the same blockchain turds |
| 13:35 |
mircea_popescu |
decimation well, it's so to speak "unstrained" if you're there, and "strained" if you hear about it later. |
| 13:35 |
mircea_popescu |
nah cause also ordering issues |
| 13:35 |
ascii_field |
mno |
| 13:35 |
decimation |
blocks are stored in order |
| 13:35 |
ascii_field |
not in the blkxxxx |
| 13:35 |
ascii_field |
aha in order |
| 13:36 |
decimation |
although it seems there might be disagreement between nodes in later blkxxxx.dat files |
| 13:36 |
mircea_popescu |
i think some implementations end up with different gaps between them or something. |
| 13:36 |
mircea_popescu |
something like that |
| 13:37 |
Jautenim |
jurov nope |
| 13:37 |
Jautenim |
i'm sending a blank email with these three attachments: http://dpaste.com/1YPE04M http://dpaste.com/2XV9P7V http://dpaste.com/2DDHFF4 |
| 13:37 |
assbot |
dpaste: 1YPE04M: something.txt ... ( http://bit.ly/1f1Ifwh ) |
| 13:37 |
assbot |
dpaste: 2XV9P7V: jautenim_openssl_docs_snip.patch ... ( http://bit.ly/1f1IebW ) |
| 13:37 |
assbot |
dpaste: 2DDHFF4: jautenim_openssl_docs_snip.patch.sig ... ( http://bit.ly/1f1Ifwl ) |
| 13:37 |
decimation |
ascii_field: one wonders why bezos didn't order the creation of his own rsa code |
| 13:38 |
mircea_popescu |
i am willing to take any odds on "he doesn't know this exists" |
| 13:39 |
ascii_field |
Jautenim: we already have the install_sw thing - see http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-June/000102.html |
| 13:39 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1f1IuaO ) |
| 13:39 |
mircea_popescu |
from experience, most people's understanding of cryptography is comensurate with your average 1700s peasants' understanding of contraception. |
| 13:39 |
ascii_field |
l0l! |
| 13:40 |
Jautenim |
gah, I didn't check the new stator.sh |
| 13:40 |
Jautenim |
allrighto |
| 13:40 |
decimation |
yeah that seems about right |
| 13:41 |
decimation |
mircea_popescu: but seemingly everyone is a "crypto enthusiast" today. |
| 13:41 |
mircea_popescu |
only here. |
| 13:43 |
jurov |
Jautenim: problem was here, all three came through |
| 13:43 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, it is interesting to point out that the first 2 gb blockindes fit a whopping 188k blocks |
| 13:43 |
mircea_popescu |
these days they're still fitting 3-5k blocks. |
| 13:43 |
mircea_popescu |
soon it will be a new 2gb file each two weeks. |
| 13:44 |
ascii_field |
aha, that's about right for 10min, 1MB blocks |
| 13:44 |
ascii_field |
(upper limit) |
| 13:44 |
decimation |
you know with these 'blockchain bitrates' I would be concerned about bitrot on disks |
| 13:44 |
decimation |
not like pogos have ecc |
| 13:44 |
ascii_field |
decimation: i'm pretty certain that i experienced a bitflip last night |
| 13:45 |
decimation |
actually, this is an excellent case for putting ecc in bitcoin |
| 13:45 |
ascii_field |
decimation: ecc cannot be implemented in software |
| 13:45 |
decimation |
or at least, in the disk-storage gismo |
| 13:45 |
decimation |
why not |
| 13:45 |
ascii_field |
(to an extent, sure, but ~any bit~ can flip) |
| 13:45 |
ascii_field |
including arbitrary code bit |
| 13:46 |
decimation |
yeah, but I don't give a shit if a pogo's code bit flips, probably will crash |
| 13:46 |
ascii_field |
mno |
| 13:46 |
ascii_field |
this is very much a mistake |
| 13:46 |
decimation |
I do give a shit if none of the pogos have a coherent record of the blocks |
| 13:46 |
mircea_popescu |
decimation very much so. |
| 13:46 |
mircea_popescu |
there are many considerations here. for instance, as an exercise to the trainee : calculate the minimum storage space required to GUARANTEE bit=wise identity over X bytes of information. |
| 13:47 |
ascii_field |
mircea_popescu: that one's easy - infinity |
| 13:47 |
decimation |
in noisy channels there are no guarantees |
| 13:47 |
ascii_field |
^ |
| 13:47 |
mircea_popescu |
obviously, for t = infinity the size -> infinity. |
| 13:47 |
mircea_popescu |
wait, wut ?! |
| 13:48 |
ascii_field |
best one can hope for is to get it an order of magnitude below 'asteroid hits your computer' probability |
| 13:48 |
decimation |
ascii_field: the problem: try finding reliable statistics on your consumer grade hard drives |
| 13:48 |
mircea_popescu |
myeah. |
| 13:48 |
mircea_popescu |
because we live in the best possible world built on top of !!!science!!! so nothing is ever sold by any sort of spec. |
| 13:48 |
ascii_field |
blockchain really belongs on combo of mask and antifuse rom |
| |
↖ |
| 13:49 |
ascii_field |
afaik neither is manufactured today |
| 13:49 |
ascii_field |
i tried to buy some |
| 13:49 |
ascii_field |
(mask rom for known blocks from the past, antifuse for future ones) |
| 13:49 |
ascii_field |
both are immune to anything short of room-melting level of radiation |
| 13:50 |
ascii_field |
(on the former, no way to flip a bit - physically - at all; on the latter - need high current and moderately high voltage) |
| 13:50 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36489 @ 0.00051236 = 18.6955 BTC [-] |
| 13:52 |
decimation |
as for mechanical drives the best info I can find is here https://www.backblaze.com/blog/best-hard-drive/ |
| 13:52 |
assbot |
The Ultimate Hard Drive Test: What Hard Drive is Best? ... ( http://bit.ly/1f1MQ1M ) |
| 13:53 |
mircea_popescu |
ascii_field still normal ? |
| 13:53 |
ascii_field |
bursts |
| 13:53 |
mircea_popescu |
it reverted to bursts ?! |
| 13:53 |
ascii_field |
130799 |
| 13:53 |
ascii_field |
aha |
| 13:53 |
Jautenim |
screw this -.- http://i.imgur.com/743Om34.png |
| 13:53 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1f1N1Kp ) |
| 13:53 |
Jautenim |
sorry |
| 13:54 |
mircea_popescu |
Jautenim lol wut is that. |
| 13:54 |
ascii_field |
http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-July/thread.html << this, apparently |
| 13:54 |
assbot |
The BTC-dev July 2015 Archive by thread ... ( http://bit.ly/1f1NbBn ) |
| 13:54 |
mircea_popescu |
ascii_field nuts. i tell you ... the load is < .2 and has not peaked above 1 (this is on 8 cpu machine). there is nothing deferred or anthing suspicious in the logs. the eth card is doing fine. two dozen connections, routinely hitting 1mbps. etc. |
| 13:55 |
ascii_field |
mircea_popescu: downstream. |
| 13:55 |
ascii_field |
must be. |
| 13:55 |
mircea_popescu |
it must. |
| 13:55 |
ascii_field |
this is gonna be a problem |
| 13:55 |
mircea_popescu |
it might. |
| 13:55 |
ascii_field |
i suspect we have come to a 'chinese' point |
| 13:55 |
mircea_popescu |
!up ascii_field |
| 13:55 |
jurov |
try to run it in ssh tunnel? |
| 13:55 |
mircea_popescu |
howssat ? |
| 13:56 |
ascii_field |
where the buggers use what they have - control over backbones - to annoy people |
| 13:56 |
ascii_field |
ssh tunnel is what i suggested earlier aha |
| 13:56 |
ascii_field |
but not a long-term solution to anything |
| 13:56 |
* |
ascii_field observes 5 sec. or so burst |
| 13:56 |
mircea_popescu |
a) that, b) what would it do ? |
| 13:56 |
decimation |
ascii_field: it could also be just misconfigured routers |
| 13:56 |
decimation |
"buffer bloat" |
| 13:56 |
mircea_popescu |
we know we can actually pass data between each other. what we wish to find out is what causes this behaviour and who to kill. |
| 13:57 |
mircea_popescu |
decimation yes, but this server would not stand if that were the case. |
| 13:57 |
jurov |
if ssh works fine, you'd confirm that someone is doing packet inspection |
| 13:57 |
ascii_field |
^ |
| 13:57 |
mircea_popescu |
i guess. |
| 13:57 |
mircea_popescu |
ascii_field whadda ya need ? |
| 13:57 |
decimation |
if you are using a standard linux distro, it's well known that older kernels had buffer bloat/tcp tuning issues |
| 13:57 |
ascii_field |
except, who exactly needed to inspect |
| 13:57 |
ascii_field |
mircea_popescu announced the box ip publicly |
| 13:58 |
mircea_popescu |
decimation recent centos tho. |
| 13:58 |
ascii_field |
after that, red phone in derpistan dept. of derp rang |
| 13:58 |
decimation |
has ancient kernel |
| 13:58 |
decimation |
I have experienced buffer bloat issues using a centos router |
| 13:58 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28300 @ 0.00051466 = 14.5649 BTC [+] |
| 13:58 |
ascii_field |
i'm gonna guess the entire link between anywhere i can go without taking a plane, and mircea_popescu's box, is burpy on account of packets hitting tape before they get to me |
| 13:58 |
jurov |
well, that would show in netstat output? |
| 13:59 |
jurov |
in SendQ column |
| 13:59 |
decimation |
good point, probably work |
| 13:59 |
decimation |
probably would show I mean |
| 14:01 |
ascii_field |
'In addition, we have paid out approximately $250,000 to programmers hired to rebuild and improve our platform; paid approximately $250,000 (and counting) to the Stroz Friedberg team; and at least $150,000 more for various security reviews, and legal and financial advice. These out of pocket costs are continuing to accrue.' |
| 14:01 |
ascii_field |
^ l0l!!! |
| 14:01 |
ascii_field |
'In addition, to prevent future capital losses of this kind, we have contracted with a vendor to provide “multi-sig” technology to better protect our hot wallet (this particular transfer could not have happened today) and hired a skilled technology company, Xapo, to assist in managing our cold wallet.' |
| 14:01 |
ascii_field |
^ ahahahahahaha |
| 14:02 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 114900 @ 0.00051525 = 59.2022 BTC [+] {3} |
| 14:03 |
jurov |
ya. no word about executives' filthy laptops. |
| 14:03 |
ascii_field |
'The gambit for this phishing attack was to offer Mr Merlak free |
| 14:03 |
ascii_field |
tickets to Punk Rock Holiday 2015. (Merlak is keen on punk rock and has played in a band.)' |
| 14:04 |
decimation |
or why those filthy laptops can come anywhere near their 'hot wallet key' |
| 14:06 |
decimation |
ascii_field: note the statistics from backblaze don't show the probability of single bit errors (undetected by the drive) |
| 14:06 |
ascii_field |
decimation: dram bitflips are far more interesting |
| 14:06 |
ascii_field |
because you can't get 'raid' for dram |
| 14:06 |
ascii_field |
whereas nobody serious gives a fuck re: disks |
| 14:07 |
decimation |
yeah, but we have jungle hardware, can't get ecc dram |
| 14:07 |
ascii_field |
because P(bit-n-disk0 + bit-n-disk1) flip ~= 0 |
| 14:07 |
decimation |
right, but pogo class machine only has one drive |
| 14:07 |
ascii_field |
mircea_popescu: connects, disconnects, without transfer of anything |
| 14:07 |
ascii_field |
for ~10min now |
| 14:07 |
mircea_popescu |
"the stroz friedberg team" ? wtfd is that. |
| 14:07 |
ascii_field |
decimation: pogo is to have strength in numbers |
| 14:08 |
decimation |
yeah, but if each pawn is too week to carry weapon, have nothing |
| 14:08 |
ascii_field |
mircea_popescu: some 'cyber sek000r1ty!11!! firm' |
| 14:08 |
mircea_popescu |
ridiculous. |
| 14:08 |
mircea_popescu |
so they spent 250k (abnd counting) so as to lose 4mn off a schmuck's home connection ? |
| 14:09 |
mircea_popescu |
whatever, owners' / investors' problem. |
| 14:09 |
mircea_popescu |
<decimation> or why those filthy laptops can come anywhere near their 'hot wallet key' << this is easy enough to answer, if you think about it. and if you don't... if you let history be your guide. |
| 14:10 |
mircea_popescu |
i'd withdraw anything i had in that shithole by now, had i not withdrawn it long before, had i had anything in there in the first place. |
| 14:10 |
decimation |
what's amusing is that nobody gets it right, or apparently even tries |
| 14:10 |
decimation |
imagine how bad fiat systems are |
| 14:10 |
mircea_popescu |
or at least, "no one you'd hear about on reddit" |
| 14:11 |
mircea_popescu |
because yes, the point of life is to preserve that most valuable delusion - that "nobody could have foreseen..." |
| 14:11 |
decimation |
well, as far as bitcoin exchanges are concerned |
| 14:11 |
mircea_popescu |
essentially the adult version of "but daddy, all the kids in class got this question wrong too!" |
| 14:12 |
mircea_popescu |
but to get back to jurov's more interesting thread |
| 14:12 |
mircea_popescu |
netstat wut ? |
| 14:12 |
jurov |
netstat -tnp |
| 14:12 |
* |
mircea_popescu is trying to bootstrap the public interest in the matter into getting a networking education for himself. |
| 14:12 |
mircea_popescu |
sudo ? or just plain ? |
| 14:12 |
jurov |
and it shows all open connections, with kernel buffers |
| 14:12 |
jurov |
usually sudo |
| 14:13 |
decimation |
yeah, find ascii's connection and see what the sendQ value is |
| 14:13 |
jurov |
with general conclusion that if SendQ buffer is empty then it's application fault |
| 14:14 |
decimation |
assuming that this is the last machine that touches it before it goes to your isp |
| 14:14 |
jurov |
otherwise either kernel stalls or pipe is congested(dropped packets, whatever) |
| 14:14 |
mircea_popescu |
stuff like 422816 k in the sendq |
| 14:14 |
decimation |
the stereotypical 'buffer bloat' problem is that you find packets become extremely lagged when there is heavy bandwidth use |
| 14:15 |
mircea_popescu |
but atm i don't even see stan's client connected. |
| 14:16 |
mircea_popescu |
<jurov> otherwise either kernel stalls or pipe is congested(dropped packets, whatever) << i thought this may well be it previously, as load was uncharacteristically high for this application. but solved that problem and apparently no improvement. |
| 14:17 |
mircea_popescu |
decimation i know, but this is a major server doing all sorts of other things. it could not stand for five minutes if that were the problem. |
| 14:17 |
ascii_field |
... and rolling again |
| 14:17 |
ascii_field |
... and then not |
| 14:18 |
pete_dushenski |
;;later tell BingoBoingo qntsideration for ya! http://dpaste.com/0PSVYP8.txt |
| 14:18 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1BZ7pWi ) |
| 14:18 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 14:18 |
ascii_field |
and nobody even read the mega-experiment from this morning yet, afaik |
| 14:19 |
ascii_field |
(result of the last 4 days) |
| 14:19 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182283 << aha there we go. |
| 14:19 |
assbot |
Logged on 01-07-2015 02:51:53; asciilifeform: if his blk** are ~original~ - as in, they were formed ~as the blocks happened~ - they can contain orphaned (in the traditional sense) blocks |
| 14:19 |
mircea_popescu |
i think they're called "stale" |
| 14:19 |
mircea_popescu |
ie, were but are no longer longest chain |
| 14:20 |
pete_dushenski |
;;later tell cazalla and for uuuu! http://dpaste.com/3HH0TQE.txt |
| 14:20 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1f1THrW ) |
| 14:20 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 14:20 |
ascii_field |
aha |
| 14:20 |
mircea_popescu |
different from the orphan, which is "block with no known connection to the hcain" |
| 14:20 |
pete_dushenski |
bbiab |
| 14:20 |
ascii_field |
mircea_popescu: the latter we now call 'bastard' |
| 14:20 |
mircea_popescu |
alright. but the former's still stale rather than orphan |
| 14:20 |
mircea_popescu |
as it does have a daddy, just, daddy got married with a wanton slut |
| 14:20 |
ascii_field |
l0l aha |
| 14:20 |
mircea_popescu |
romaian would be "dezmostenit" |
| 14:20 |
mircea_popescu |
not sure english comprehends. |
| 14:21 |
ascii_field |
mircea_popescu: the terminology 'orphan' is used in the source, hence why i referred to it |
| 14:21 |
ascii_field |
('stale' is a better term, but does not appear in src) |
| 14:22 |
mircea_popescu |
aha. but anyway : yes all my blks are original in that sense, this bneing the whole point of the exercise. |
| 14:22 |
mircea_popescu |
(i also have strained variants, obviously - but of what interest are they) |
| 14:23 |
ascii_field |
another short burst |
| 14:23 |
mircea_popescu |
!up Eulorian |
| 14:23 |
mircea_popescu |
hey there. |
| 14:24 |
mircea_popescu |
ascii_field are the bursts mechanically the same ? like, all 500kb or w/e ? |
| 14:24 |
ascii_field |
no |
| 14:24 |
ascii_field |
varies |
| 14:27 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182356 << i could have sworn there's some weird padding in there |
| 14:27 |
assbot |
Logged on 01-07-2015 03:32:56; asciilifeform: iirc, it is [mainortestchainflag][length][blockdata] repeated again and again |
| 14:27 |
mircea_popescu |
usure ? |
| 14:28 |
asciilifeform |
!up ascii_field |
| 14:28 |
ascii_field |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=29424.msg370335#msg370335 << as pictured here |
| 14:28 |
assbot |
File formats -- blkindex.dat and blk0001.dat ... ( http://bit.ly/1f1Vm0F ) |
| 14:30 |
mircea_popescu |
ascii_field eh. proceeding from the other direction : not only is the need for a bdb datastore directly indicative of allignment problems, but moreover its presence virtually guarantees them. so no, i don't think you can actually rely on "block after block" thing, but then again i can't be arsed to emacs a .dat |
| 14:31 |
mircea_popescu |
honestly the only sane arrangement would be either a) store each block as a file, or else b) store blocks in arbitrary sized files, each starting at offsed 1Mb * block_count |
| 14:31 |
ascii_field |
the bdb thing is for tx (and block-by-header) indexing |
| 14:31 |
ascii_field |
as so the thing doesn't end up running in O(N) time |
| 14:31 |
ascii_field |
'each block as a file' strains filesystem |
| 14:31 |
mircea_popescu |
no fucking idea why it hasn't implemented a from the get go incidentally. |
| 14:31 |
ascii_field |
(and kills winblowz dead of course) |
| 14:31 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah but filesystem is who is supposed to deal with this. |
| 14:31 |
mircea_popescu |
NOT MY JOB OMFG |
| 14:32 |
mircea_popescu |
let the problem be solved once and solved well. |
| 14:32 |
ascii_field |
filesystems (other than reiser) don't like dir full of millions of turdz |
| 14:32 |
mircea_popescu |
so make it a dir tree. |
| 14:32 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49923 @ 0.00051175 = 25.5481 BTC [-] {2} |
| 14:32 |
ascii_field |
it is easy to solve. just define custom fs for blockchain |
| 14:32 |
ascii_field |
we spoke of this ages ago |
| 14:32 |
mircea_popescu |
myeah. |
| 14:32 |
ascii_field |
let it have own block device. |
| 14:32 |
mircea_popescu |
yet another place where bitcoind and kernel merge. |
| 14:32 |
mircea_popescu |
because if you run bitcoin on that system, ALL the tradeoffs the kernel makes MUST be organised around its needs. |
| 14:33 |
ascii_field |
it is what i wanted to do in the mythical msdos port |
| 14:33 |
mircea_popescu |
maybe not msdos, but i think cp/m would actually suffice for everything involved. |
| 14:33 |
ascii_field |
(msdos, as we know, won't eat a +2G fs - but doesn't give a damn what you say to the disk controller. so roll your own.) |
| 14:33 |
ascii_field |
the only thing that even needs an os in the usual sense is the threading |
| 14:34 |
ascii_field |
and not, as naive might suppose, the tcp/ip ! |
| 14:34 |
decimation |
you could make a dirtree |
| 14:34 |
ascii_field |
there are ~working~ tcp stacks for 'bare bios' |
| 14:34 |
ascii_field |
i have one here |
| 14:34 |
mircea_popescu |
in any case i regard the blkxxx scheme as a hare brained, buggy slow and stupid reimplementation of a filesystem in a kernel that's trying to be an app. |
| 14:34 |
ascii_field |
aha |
| 14:34 |
decimation |
I used one for 80806 |
| 14:34 |
decimation |
8086 |
| 14:34 |
decimation |
called 'ka9q nos' |
| 14:34 |
decimation |
ran in dos |
| 14:35 |
jurov |
iirc there's vfat driver for ms-dos.. some 200k |
| 14:35 |
ascii_field |
fuck fat32 |
| 14:35 |
ascii_field |
it's how we got the blkxxxx turd in the 1st place |
| 14:35 |
ascii_field |
with its 2g blobs |
| 14:35 |
mircea_popescu |
ahaha wait |
| 14:35 |
mircea_popescu |
THAT is how 2gb got picked ? |
| 14:35 |
ascii_field |
how did you think |
| 14:35 |
decimation |
I do agree that converting blkxxx to dirtree would be an improvement |
| 14:35 |
* |
mircea_popescu reels at the realisation it never occured to him before |
| 14:36 |
mircea_popescu |
i dunno dude, how the fuck should i know how people who use magic numbers pick the magic numbers to use./ |
| 14:36 |
ascii_field |
because shitblowz |
| 14:36 |
mircea_popescu |
bitcoin is such a fucking insult. |
| 14:36 |
ascii_field |
sure is |
| 14:36 |
ascii_field |
i barf from it daily |
| 14:36 |
ascii_field |
every time i look at that thing. |
| 14:37 |
ascii_field |
my brain pulsates like it wants to blow chunks |
| 14:37 |
decimation |
oh, here's a c preprocessor macro to implement templates!! |
| 14:37 |
* |
decimation barfs |
| 14:38 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182371 << honestly, i don't think he likes you. |
| 14:38 |
assbot |
Logged on 01-07-2015 03:51:18; midnightmagic: asciilifeform: Congratulations on making simple interaction so expensive. |
| 14:38 |
* |
ascii_field amused re: how that fella appears always at certain... occasions |
| 14:38 |
ascii_field |
to express a very particular pov |
| 14:39 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182379 << different in what exact sense ? how is one wotless pleb different from another ? |
| 14:39 |
assbot |
Logged on 01-07-2015 04:03:57; asciilifeform: or different one. |
| 14:40 |
ascii_field |
muppet theatre has a box of masks, occasionally they rotate |
| 14:42 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182385 << i lolled, but "6/10 decent trolling but article is obviously rambling and unconvincing," ?? |
| 14:42 |
assbot |
Logged on 01-07-2015 04:08:54; danielpbarron: https://twitter.com/fuckeveryword/status/616093901401686017 |
| 14:42 |
mircea_popescu |
what is this, defense by epithet ? |
| 14:42 |
mircea_popescu |
"i'm fat and should work out but the science involved in mean so 6/10" ? |
| 14:43 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182390 << oh for crying out loud. |
| 14:43 |
assbot |
Logged on 01-07-2015 04:12:37; decimation: lolz http://blog.samaltman.com/energy < sam altman has a great new startup idea (YC certified): nuclear fusion |
| 14:43 |
mircea_popescu |
ascii_field i was promised rotation! WHAT IS THIS SCAM |
| 14:44 |
ascii_field |
l0l |
| 14:44 |
mircea_popescu |
will i live to be 90 and read all about "the very exciting technical development of 3d cinema", which apparently didn't fail convincingly enough the fiurst time jack warner trieds to beat television out of the amrket |
| 14:44 |
ascii_field |
muppeteer's hand sticky with spoodge, frog got glued on |
| 14:44 |
mircea_popescu |
and then "uber" and then "cold fusion |
| 14:44 |
mircea_popescu |
and then etc ? |
| 14:44 |
mircea_popescu |
it gets old. |
| 14:45 |
ascii_field |
in yr 2500 there will be folks selling 'forever live' pills |
| 14:45 |
ascii_field |
just as in year 500 |
| 14:45 |
ascii_field |
and -500 |
| 14:45 |
mircea_popescu |
fucking curse of an active intelligence : you don't, personalyl, get old. you just get to watch the entire world get very old very fast/ |
| 14:46 |
mircea_popescu |
eventually you feel old just for being involved. |
| 14:46 |
* |
ascii_field felt pretty old decade ago already |
| 14:46 |
mircea_popescu |
i'm sitting here in the 80s romania laughing at 3d glasses. for fucks sake - FROSI, the communist german's youth magazine, sent me some very sturdy cardboard 3d glasses in one edition. was like 86 iirc. |
| 14:47 |
ascii_field |
my father laughed at 3d glasses in 1960 |
| 14:47 |
ascii_field |
and his father in ww2 |
| 14:47 |
ascii_field |
(issued to artillerists, reading oddball experimental maps) |
| 14:47 |
trinque |
yeah, but now they're called hololens, and you'll have to take out a credit card to purchase |
| 14:48 |
ascii_field |
and i have it on good authority that folks in the age where 'sherlock holmes' is set also laughed |
| 14:48 |
mircea_popescu |
wtf srsly, teh internets doesn't know about frosi ? |
| 14:48 |
ascii_field |
'google' now sells a cardboard frame one can stuff a pNohe into, as 3d glasses. |
| 14:49 |
ascii_field |
cheap tricks don't really change |
| 14:51 |
mircea_popescu |
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/FRÖSI ere we go. |
| 14:51 |
assbot |
FRÖSI – Wikipedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1f1ZHkl ) |
| 14:52 |
mircea_popescu |
http://www.ddr-comics.de/froesi/index/8507a.jpg << actually this might have been the exact edition. |
| 14:52 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1f1ZUnH ) |
| 14:54 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182397 << what the motherfucking shit is this. "our years of experience in something we've not done at all are to be combined in the following manner - if we jump one inch each day we'll have an olympic record before the year is out" |
| 14:54 |
assbot |
Logged on 01-07-2015 04:14:20; decimation: and http://www.helionenergy.com/ < "By combining our years of experience in fusion, newly available electronics technologies, and a revolutionary design using cutting-edge physics, Helion is making a fusion engine 1,000 times smaller, over 500 times cheaper, and realizable 10 time faster than other projects." |
| 14:54 |
mircea_popescu |
what in the actual shit. |
| 14:55 |
mircea_popescu |
i could be back in school, listening to retarded 11yos describing their sexual experience in flamboyantly wrong detail. |
| 14:55 |
trinque |
they've lived on a planet orbiting a massive fusion reaction; what more do you want? |
| 14:55 |
trinque |
mircea_popescu: "peed in her butt" |
| 14:55 |
mircea_popescu |
i think my dinner had comparable fusion experience. |
| 14:55 |
mircea_popescu |
trinque no this was specifically that after summer vacation, guy told class agape this tall tale about the orgy he had going at his grandparent's rural house. |
| 14:56 |
mircea_popescu |
so then i asked him where's the little worm thing on the girl's snatch, upside or downside ? |
| 14:56 |
trinque |
lol |
| 14:56 |
mircea_popescu |
and the dude went like wtf am i on about, there's no such thing. |
| 14:57 |
trinque |
reminds me of a chick I remember in high school telling me that she had no idea her pussy had a hole in it until *way* later than a healthy human being should |
| 14:57 |
trinque |
like... early teens |
| 14:57 |
ascii_field |
'on which end is the soldering iron hot' |
| 14:57 |
mircea_popescu |
"wut do you mean, i heard there's a little nubbin thing like a tip of a finger" "omfg get out of here 6/10 trolling" |
| 14:57 |
mircea_popescu |
then the recess was over an' i told the gals all about it. was a very lulzy week. |
| 14:58 |
trinque |
I guess this girl thought babies were shat... or something |
| 14:58 |
mircea_popescu |
it has happened... |
| 14:58 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182404 << don't forget to 3d print it. |
| 14:58 |
assbot |
Logged on 01-07-2015 04:15:12; trinque: ah man, I'll be able to bolt one of these to my emdrive and colonize mars |
| 14:58 |
mircea_popescu |
!up ascii_field |
| 14:58 |
trinque |
ofc |
| 14:59 |
trinque |
and turn the trip to mars into a reality tv show |
| 14:59 |
mircea_popescu |
where you put a bunch of dumb teens in a room and nobody fucks anyone. |
| 14:59 |
mircea_popescu |
muy reality. |
| 14:59 |
ascii_field |
financed with kyc/aml compliant kickstartgogo |
| 14:59 |
mircea_popescu |
to quote sammy l, "that's no reality i ever heard of. they speak english in reality ?" |
| 15:00 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
trinque: hi there. were you able to read through that book? if so, what'd you think? |
| 15:01 |
trinque |
ag3nt_zer0: nah not finished yet; got distracted |
| 15:01 |
trinque |
but I'm sure I'll get to it |
| 15:01 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
cool |
| 15:02 |
mod6 |
<+ascii_field> i barf from it daily << lol |
| 15:02 |
mircea_popescu |
poor mod6 lol. |
| 15:03 |
mircea_popescu |
he knows. |
| 15:03 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
any hikers in here? just did 5 days backpacking in yosemite... unbelievable! - highly recommended |
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| 15:03 |
trinque |
ag3nt_zer0: yeah, I do a bit of that around oregon |
| 15:03 |
mircea_popescu |
ag3nt_zer0 some p[eople in portland were gazing at the nude biker chiks |
| 15:03 |
trinque |
heh! |
| 15:04 |
trinque |
lets just make the tits-out thing year-round |
| 15:04 |
mircea_popescu |
it frosts there neh ? |
| 15:04 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 129350 @ 0.00051728 = 66.9102 BTC [+] {2} |
| 15:05 |
mircea_popescu |
ANI is generally dependent on a warm climate and good central heating. |
| 15:05 |
mircea_popescu |
but outdoors... |
| 15:05 |
trinque |
sure, I'll accept inside-only |
| 15:05 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182464 << got some magnolias etc, same feeling. |
| 15:05 |
assbot |
Logged on 01-07-2015 04:31:56; cazalla: tfw buying a deciduous tree in the winter and feel like i bought a stick for $20 lol (Hovenia dulcis if anyone cares as much) |
| 15:05 |
trinque |
notable how happy everyone seems in town when everyone's ass-naked in the streets |
| 15:06 |
trinque |
portland wants to break from the repressed sexuality of america so bad |
| 15:08 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182516 << wut ? lol. |
| 15:08 |
assbot |
Logged on 01-07-2015 05:52:58; mats: driver insisted i sit in front, fist bump him, and talk the whole trip |
| 15:08 |
mats |
'community ridesharing' |
| 15:09 |
mats |
we're supposed to be buds |
| 15:09 |
mircea_popescu |
what happened to pointing out to the driver he's to speak when spoken to. |
| 15:09 |
ascii_field |
i like 'uber' more |
| 15:09 |
ascii_field |
it simply took the money and ran |
| 15:09 |
mircea_popescu |
quoth the runner : ubermore! |
| 15:09 |
funkenstein_ |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1183410 <-- good work! Yosemite is amazing, I did some lines there years ago |
| 15:09 |
assbot |
AMAZING COMPANY! |
| 15:09 |
assbot |
Logged on 01-07-2015 19:03:09; ag3nt_zer0: any hikers in here? just did 5 days backpacking in yosemite... unbelievable! - highly recommended |
| 15:09 |
ascii_field |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=17-06-2015#1166116 << see also |
| 15:09 |
assbot |
Logged on 17-06-2015 15:01:15; asciilifeform: whereby a bunch of folks pretend to be an uber 'cabbie' and 'pick up' customers |
| 15:09 |
mircea_popescu |
funkenstein_ you did cocaine off the mountain's asscrack ?! |
| 15:10 |
danielpbarron |
!v assbot:danielpbarron.rate.juliatourianski_.3:70bc5de51fb224a5e85a3b7da3bba658b99a22fdacd4c178f51c1206c73b308d |
| 15:10 |
assbot |
Successfully updated the rating for juliatourianski_ from -2 to 3 with note: met at porcfest; a fantastic escort |
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| 15:10 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
mircea_popescu: you had asked what the hell is the sophia perennis anyway... well, a core and concise exposition of it can be found in more than a few works - here is one that stands at 134 pages and I would really love to hear some thoughts on it if you get a chance to sit down with it... if for no other reason than I struggle to find "holes" in it... http://tohno-chan.com/ddl/src/Rene_Guenon_-_The_Crisis_of_the_Modern_W |
| 15:10 |
assbot |
404 - page not found ... ( http://bit.ly/1f234I3 ) |
| 15:10 |
mircea_popescu |
just how much was it |
| 15:10 |
funkenstein_ |
lol, definitely enough crack there to last a lifetime |
| 15:10 |
mircea_popescu |
i had ? |
| 15:10 |
mircea_popescu |
!s sophia perennis |
| 15:10 |
assbot |
0 results for 'sophia perennis' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=sophia+perennis |
| 15:10 |
mircea_popescu |
i don't think so ? |
| 15:11 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
maybe we were using the "perennial tradition" terms |
| 15:11 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
same thing |
| 15:11 |
funkenstein_ |
incidentally, one of the lines I did was called "the nose" |
| 15:11 |
mircea_popescu |
!s perennial tradition |
| 15:11 |
assbot |
0 results for 'perennial tradition' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=perennial+tradition |
| 15:12 |
mircea_popescu |
suppose you actually link me ag3nt_zer0 ? |
| 15:12 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
I don't know how |
| 15:13 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
hold up |
| 15:13 |
mircea_popescu |
you ever read the log ? |
| 15:13 |
funkenstein_ |
was linked here a couple days ago, with full url :) |
| 15:13 |
mircea_popescu |
coupla monthgs ago i bought a couple of thin wooden sticks from an art store. impulse buy, i just happened to be next to them. |
| 15:14 |
mircea_popescu |
i've since used them as switches, and broke them on ass. the parts i collected and since just about right thickenss, sharpened them |
| 15:14 |
mircea_popescu |
and the shavings ? why, the shavings burn, creating this most pleasant wooden smoke atmosphere. |
| 15:14 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
mircea_popescu: http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=perennialism |
| 15:14 |
assbot |
2 results for 'perennialism' - #bitcoin-assets search |
| 15:14 |
mircea_popescu |
best impulse buy ever. |
| 15:15 |
ascii_field |
right thickness ? |
| 15:15 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=23-06-2015#1173212 << specifically ? |
| 15:15 |
assbot |
Logged on 23-06-2015 03:05:44; mircea_popescu: and wtf is "perennialism" even supposed to be, pico de la mirandolla and friends ? |
| 15:15 |
mircea_popescu |
ascii_field bout like a pencil |
| 15:15 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
mircea_popescu: yes I read the log |
| 15:15 |
ascii_field |
like pencil, but cannot write ? |
| 15:15 |
ascii_field |
or what, mircea_popescu took up cuneiform ? |
| 15:16 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
mircea_popescu: yes, specifically that |
| 15:16 |
* |
ascii_field used to own such a stick, for putting maths graffiti in wet cement |
| 15:16 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
| 15:16 |
mircea_popescu |
ag3nt_zer0 and your offering is a 404 ? |
| 15:16 |
* |
funkenstein_ thinks ascii_field might know a thing or two about using switches |
| 15:17 |
mircea_popescu |
he always struckl me like more of a semaphore kind of guy |
| 15:17 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182528 << me too. |
| 15:17 |
assbot |
Logged on 01-07-2015 05:58:05; ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: i dream of a world where the insurance to drive your own ass around is prohibitive for all but the ultra-rich |
| 15:18 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
mircea_popescu: hmmm... should be a pdf - http://tohno-chan.com/ddl/src/Rene_Guenon_-_The_Crisis_of_the_Modern_World.pdf |
| 15:18 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1LhkQDg ) |
| 15:18 |
mircea_popescu |
and what does mp say about pdfs with innerving regularity and peppered throughout teh logs ? |
| 15:18 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
oh |
| 15:18 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
sorry |
| 15:19 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, yes, Rene Guenon, pico de la mirandola & friends. |
| 15:22 |
mircea_popescu |
the other side of the earlier fox : http://40.media.tumblr.com/34fcf7d7d8f39cd0ae9d488aa89d714e/tumblr_nh26kcSHGN1ti99ofo2_1280.jpg |
| 15:22 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1T6W6zU ) |
| 15:23 |
midnightmagic |
mircea_popescu: yeah, I know. I refuse to the signal the in-tribe, and that seems to be giving him a reason to think I'm some kind of plant with an agenda. If he accepted the truth I think he'd calm down quite a bit, although at this point he'd probably never believe it. |
| 15:23 |
mircea_popescu |
in the end what difference does it make. |
| 15:23 |
midnightmagic |
I just read more than I comment is all. |
| 15:23 |
ascii_field |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=10-02-2015#1014374 << see also. |
| 15:23 |
assbot |
Logged on 10-02-2015 03:25:08; mircea_popescu: this is like asking wyatt earp "how do you distinguish between the f brothers and stray dog" |
| 15:25 |
ascii_field |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-01-2015#999266 |
| 15:25 |
assbot |
Logged on 31-01-2015 02:02:19; midnightmagic: dude. seriously plotting or fomenting the physical murder of the USG is sedition, insurrection, and various related crimes and there's no fucking way I'm interested in being associated with it just because I'm lurking in here. |
| 15:25 |
mircea_popescu |
seems coherent enough. |
| 15:27 |
midnightmagic |
So? Opinion doesn't mean action; and it doesn't follow that I'd waste my time reporting, or even communicating with an inverted totalitarianist state, given the literal costs of doing so in terms of freedom and money. |
| 15:27 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
interesting - have never heard of Mirandola referred to as a core "traditionalist" writer - Guenon, Schuon, Evola, Burkhardt and others - but not Mirandola. From a nothing read I can see a similarity in their attempt to legitimize these modalities of thought but I read that his ideas were influential in renaissance humanism which guenon appears to be highly critical of... ? |
| 15:28 |
mircea_popescu |
midnightmagic you know not everyone you ever run into will like you. |
| 15:28 |
midnightmagic |
Yes, I know. |
| 15:29 |
mircea_popescu |
ag3nt_zer0 he's the original neoplatonician "ezoterist" or however you call this silly sort of romanticism that passes for "traditionalism" in postmodernism. |
| 15:29 |
mircea_popescu |
!up ascii_field |
| 15:29 |
ascii_field |
153000+ |
| 15:30 |
mircea_popescu |
evola, recently mentioned here, very much in the same vein |
| 15:30 |
* |
ascii_field went once on an evola kick |
| 15:30 |
mircea_popescu |
he's certainly above the usual productions of his peninsula. |
| 15:30 |
ascii_field |
but it hardly gets deader than the thing that made him |
| 15:31 |
ascii_field |
there is none of it to be had now. |
| 15:31 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
mircea_popescu: but you would consider evola "silly romanticism? |
| 15:31 |
mircea_popescu |
ag3nt_zer0 quite. you wouldn't ? |
| 15:31 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
no i guess not |
| 15:32 |
mircea_popescu |
i suppose the problem here is that to the children of today the women are grandmothers, but to they that rolled them on all their sides in the hay they'll stay about 20. |
| 15:32 |
mircea_popescu |
in which line, i was recently shocked to realise my mother's retiring. when i met the woman she was young! |
| 15:32 |
ascii_field |
l0l |
| 15:33 |
jurov |
deedbot-: http://explo.yt/public/fmpif_201506.txt.asc |
| 15:33 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1T6XPVR ) |
| 15:33 |
scoopbot_revived |
F.MPIF June 2015 trading statement http://explo.yt/post/2015/07/01/F.MPIF-June-2015-trading-statement |
| 15:33 |
deedbot- |
accepted: 1 |
| 15:33 |
jurov |
deedbot-: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/attachments/20150701/attachment_e1cbe3cd7f4dececd2f4d5e8d619f57ca41ca69f.txt |
| 15:33 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1T6XQt4 ) |
| 15:33 |
deedbot- |
accepted: 1 |
| 15:34 |
mircea_popescu |
this entire construction is pretty fuckin spiffy if i do so myself. |
| 15:34 |
* |
mircea_popescu looks around rather pleased |
| 15:35 |
williamdunne |
Our robot slaves treat us well |
| 15:35 |
funkenstein_ |
speaking of the vein of paranoia mentioned by midnightmagic, I would love some help to evaluate this comment: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1105109.msg11765764#msg11765764 |
| 15:35 |
assbot |
Coin-Vote testers wanted ... ( http://bit.ly/1f27C13 ) |
| 15:37 |
ascii_field |
^ translation: 'we wanna get rich off our crackpot altcoin plz' |
| 15:38 |
ascii_field |
('cryptovote' is a vastly overworked and tiresome subject in maths academia, for 20+yrs now) |
| 15:38 |
williamdunne |
Pro democracy anarchist? Wut. |
| 15:38 |
mircea_popescu |
is this some sort of ploy to drum up interest for tardstalk forum ? |
| 15:40 |
funkenstein_ |
lol, sorry.. guy kinda scared with his "you are dumber than DPR" |
| 15:41 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
mircea_popescu: but just becasue I do not consider it silly romanticism does not mean I could not be convinced if one were inclined to point out any inconsistencies in their thought... which is why I ask in this room... I suppose that if there were people able to help me peel back the layers a bit further, or demonstrate to me my own silly romantic tendencies that lead me to think most of this thought is "true", they migh |
| 15:41 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
again, I understand not having the time or patience as well... |
| 15:41 |
mircea_popescu |
!gettrust ag3nt_zer0 |
| 15:41 |
assbot |
Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user ag3nt_zer0: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=mircea_popescu&to=ag3nt_zer0 | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/ag3nt_zer0/ |
| 15:41 |
mircea_popescu |
why would it matter to me what you could or couldn't be ? |
| 15:42 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
it doesn't have to... it was out of respect that I asked |
| 15:43 |
mircea_popescu |
not the point, tho. the point is, you're approaching it backwards. |
| 15:44 |
ascii_field |
http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/attachments/20150701/pss_2f32fc9570f505a65c46b118c415cae70d57d757.png << in other news, one can infer that bitcoin permanently sits down on ~300 byte per block ingested |
| 15:44 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1dxtuQd ) |
| 15:47 |
mircea_popescu |
padding! |
| 15:48 |
ascii_field |
indices |
| 15:48 |
ascii_field |
ought to move to a cached disk turd |
| 15:48 |
ascii_field |
then we're left with the 30MB footprint of the bugger itself + mempools |
| 15:48 |
ascii_field |
(+ said cache) |
| 15:50 |
ascii_field |
incidentally, blkxxxx oughta be an mmap |
| 15:50 |
ascii_field |
because we no longer are encumbered with winblowz |
| 15:53 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
mircea_popescu: might you offer a suggestion as to how to approach it in a more forward manner? |
| 15:55 |
ascii_field |
and, for anyone who has not yet read the article: precisely same footprint ~whether blocks are eaten one by one, or bitcoind merely started with the results thereof~ |
| 15:55 |
mircea_popescu |
alright. be specific, ask specific questions, construct syllogisms so that you can work tnd and the rest of the devices thought rests on... |
| 15:56 |
mircea_popescu |
ascii_field padding! |
| 15:56 |
ascii_field |
wut |
| 15:56 |
mircea_popescu |
the unverified suspicion is that this exists as overflow protection. |
| 15:59 |
ascii_field |
well we already knew that headers are stored forever in ram |
| 15:59 |
ascii_field |
but this accounts for what, 81 bt ? |
| 15:59 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42150 @ 0.00051733 = 21.8055 BTC [+] |
| 16:02 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
mircea_popescu: thanks. what's tnd? |
| 16:02 |
mircea_popescu |
tertium non datur. |
| 16:03 |
mircea_popescu |
along with reductio ad absurdum and friends, the infrastructure of all thought. |
| 16:03 |
asciilifeform |
!up ascii_field |
| 16:03 |
ascii_field |
^^^^ |
| 16:03 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
appreciate it |
| 16:04 |
jurov |
vagina non olet |
| 16:04 |
* |
ascii_field mentally blows dust off his unwritten magnum opus re: ternary computing, 'tertium datur' |
| 16:04 |
mircea_popescu |
vagina olet, pecunia non clam interfecisset. |
| 16:04 |
mircea_popescu |
ascii_field mere moving the gulp posts. "septimum non datur" or w/e |
| 16:04 |
ascii_field |
l0lz |
| 16:05 |
mircea_popescu |
the point is that unbounded lists are impermissible. |
| 16:05 |
ascii_field |
tell it to hilbert & co |
| 16:05 |
mircea_popescu |
i am. |
| 16:05 |
mircea_popescu |
(they're not impermissible in nature - merely in thinking. you gotta know what you're talking about) |
| 16:06 |
mircea_popescu |
otherwise, feel free to tell your compiler something like "so this program i wanna work on, right ? it has like a number of functions in it and stuff like that" |
| 16:06 |
ascii_field |
it remains possible to deal with infinities of certain kinds whilst knowing what one is talking about |
| 16:06 |
mircea_popescu |
i suppose this passes for "higher level language" in some circles. |
| 16:06 |
ascii_field |
it is called 'human compiler' |
| 16:07 |
mircea_popescu |
and it does what you mean! |
| 16:07 |
mircea_popescu |
or else... it's mean! |
| 16:07 |
ascii_field |
sorta like mold in bathtub does 'what you mean' |
| 16:07 |
mircea_popescu |
aha. |
| 16:07 |
ascii_field |
yes, you kinda put it there |
| 16:07 |
ascii_field |
but go and try signing your name with it |
| 16:08 |
mircea_popescu |
dude im sitting here cackling at my stupid latin wordplay wtf is wrong with me |
| 16:08 |
ascii_field |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=27-06-2015#1179369 << see also. |
| 16:08 |
assbot |
Logged on 27-06-2015 21:50:42; jurov: https://lurkmore.to/Lingua_latina_non_penis_canina lmao |
| 16:10 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway. vagina smells and money never hurt clams. |
| 16:10 |
mircea_popescu |
cuz money IS clams |
| 16:10 |
mircea_popescu |
and so are vaginas |
| 16:10 |
danielpbarron |
!v assbot:danielpbarron.rate.jwzguy.1:f446dc815dbbca084f820ec4495027452f793977737fde722e5409c9a99631e8 |
| 16:10 |
assbot |
Successfully added a rating of 1 for jwzguy with note: met at porcfest |
| 16:11 |
williamdunne |
Not all vaginas smell, so at least there's that |
| 16:11 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah they do. |
| 16:11 |
danielpbarron |
noses smell; vaginas stink |
| 16:11 |
williamdunne |
Not all vaginas stink |
| 16:11 |
mircea_popescu |
that's for sure |
| 16:12 |
williamdunne |
Ok, well there's the confusion. By smell I thought you meant carries an odour |
| 16:13 |
mircea_popescu |
that's what i meant. |
| 16:14 |
williamdunne |
Oh, well I'll have to disagree. More often than not, at least with my (limited) experience they smell no different to the rest of whomever it belongs to |
| |
↖ |
| 16:14 |
williamdunne |
Well, at least initially |
| 16:15 |
mircea_popescu |
it's a wonder then that dogs don't stick the truffle straight into the girl's elbow. |
| 16:15 |
mircea_popescu |
see ag3nt_zer0 ? syllogism! |
| 16:15 |
williamdunne |
I'll give you that one, then again they have a slight advantage over myself when it comes to detection of it |
| 16:17 |
ag3nt_zer0 |
yes, fucking brilliant! |
| 16:18 |
williamdunne |
b-a really helps with my vocabulary |
| 16:18 |
mircea_popescu |
you didn't know it was called a truffle ? |
| 16:21 |
williamdunne |
No, syllogism |
| 16:23 |
williamdunne |
And a perfect example was provided with it |
| 16:26 |
mircea_popescu |
ah |
| 16:29 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.QNTR] 46850 @ 0.0003432 = 16.0789 BTC [+] |
| 16:31 |
mats |
that was unexpected |
| 16:34 |
danielpbarron |
deedbot-, http://danielpbarron.com/blk.asc.txt |
| 16:34 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1Ktvg3x ) |
| 16:34 |
deedbot- |
accepted: 1 |
| 16:35 |
cazalla |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182882 <<< it gets better lol http://qntra.net/2015/07/qntra-s-qntr-june-2015-statement/#comments |
| 16:35 |
assbot |
Logged on 01-07-2015 16:08:00; mircea_popescu: http://qntra.net/2015/06/pressure-in-the-united-states-mounts-to-ban-symbols-of-rebellion-against-federal-government/#comment-29482 << can't tell if serious... |
| 16:35 |
assbot |
Qntra (S.QNTR) June 2015 Statement | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ktvibw ) |
| 16:43 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16800 @ 0.00051278 = 8.6147 BTC [-] |
| 16:45 |
scoopbot_revived |
Europol & Eurojust Take Down Cybercriminal Group http://qntra.net/2015/07/europol-eurojust-take-down-cybercriminal-group/ |
| 16:46 |
lobbes |
lol, qntra rabbit ain't giving in to federal pressure: http://qntra.net/qntra.jpg |
| 16:46 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1dktinq ) |
| 16:48 |
williamdunne |
Is there some back story to the Qntra rabbit? |
| 16:48 |
danielpbarron |
just like qntra, the rabbit is now a part of cazalla |
| 16:49 |
cazalla |
williamdunne, not really, if the rabbit mascot was still alive i'd have named him dixie |
| 16:50 |
mircea_popescu |
terrorabbit |
| 16:51 |
cazalla |
perhaps i'm still at that juvenile stage in my life where if someone tells me i can't have something (flag in this instance) i want it all the more |
| 16:52 |
mircea_popescu |
they need to confront their impotence |
| 16:53 |
mircea_popescu |
they need to confront it insistently and constantly. |
| 16:53 |
scoopbot_revived |
Malware Ring Participants Arrested http://qntra.net/2015/07/malware-ring-participants-arrested/ |
| 16:54 |
cazalla |
lol i put it up no less than 5 minutes ago BingoBoingo |
| 16:54 |
BingoBoingo |
Ah, dammit |
| 16:56 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 152000 @ 0.00050558 = 76.8482 BTC [-] {3} |
| 17:08 |
pete_dushenski |
cazalla: just noticed a typo there ... "cybercrimial" instead of "cybercriminal" in the opening sentence. fix plox :) |
| 17:08 |
pete_dushenski |
BingoBoingo: ^ |
| 17:09 |
cazalla |
pete_dushenski, fixed (i do read em before publishing but it's early :P ) |
| 17:09 |
pete_dushenski |
cazalla: lol cheers mate |
| 17:10 |
pete_dushenski |
o hey liking the new bunny header |
| 17:10 |
pete_dushenski |
that's some handy dandy photoshwappin' |
| 17:15 |
cazalla |
pete_dushenski, gimp and trademarks are not verbs dude http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pressroom/pressmaterials/pdfs/photoshop_guidelines_pr.pdf "For example: "The image was enhanced using Adobe® Photoshop® software." not . . . "The image was photoshopped." |
| 17:15 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1GOHwWe ) |
| 17:16 |
pete_dushenski |
eh fuck that. i make my own words. |
| 17:16 |
* |
danielpbarron gimped a confed flag into his twitter pic |
| 17:17 |
* |
pete_dushenski checks dpb twitter |
| 17:17 |
pete_dushenski |
lulz |
| 17:17 |
asciilifeform |
!up ascii_field |
| 17:17 |
ascii_field |
achtung, panzers! |
| 17:18 |
ascii_field |
ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al: |
| 17:18 |
ascii_field |
http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-July/000113.html |
| 17:18 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1GOHIVi ) |
| 17:18 |
ascii_field |
'Here is a 'blkcut' utility. Cuts or counts.' |
| 17:18 |
mircea_popescu |
haha |
| 17:18 |
mircea_popescu |
made your own dulap have you |
| 17:18 |
ascii_field |
schlllp. |
| 17:18 |
ascii_field |
aha |
| 17:18 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla you knbow why they're pushing that right ? |
| 17:19 |
pete_dushenski |
danielpbarron: re: https://twitter.com/danielpbarron/status/614855224864448513 << is this the same rassah from the ol' 'mycelium knows how to make rng for their entropy dongle now but won't because it's hard and other reasons' ? |
| 17:19 |
ascii_field |
exercise for reader: |
| 17:19 |
ascii_field |
make it hash'em |
| 17:19 |
ascii_field |
instead of dumping |
| 17:19 |
shinohai |
So this is a separate utility? |
| 17:19 |
ascii_field |
yes |
| 17:19 |
ascii_field |
1pager |
| 17:19 |
shinohai |
^____________^ |
| 17:19 |
pete_dushenski |
obligatory : http://www.contravex.com/2014/07/17/proof-that-mycelium-knows-how-to-make-a-better-rng-for-its-entropy-dongle-and-isnt/ |
| 17:19 |
assbot |
Proof That Mycelium Knows How To Make A Better RNG For Its Entropy Dongle. And Isn’t. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1GOHQEr ) |
| 17:19 |
ascii_field |
nothing earth-shaking here |
| 17:19 |
ascii_field |
but afaik there was no simple, fast cutter |
| 17:19 |
cazalla |
mircea_popescu, i can't imagine why tbh, the word is as synonymous to search as is google |
| 17:19 |
ascii_field |
so here's one |
| 17:20 |
shinohai |
I hate webchat, my shell got klined |
| 17:21 |
ascii_field |
at any rate, you can call sha256sum on the resulting dir tree |
| 17:21 |
ascii_field |
and get hashes |
| 17:21 |
ascii_field |
mircea_popescu ^ |
| 17:21 |
mod6 |
ascii_field: re: blkcut, neat! |
| 17:21 |
ascii_field |
or anybody who gives a fuc |
| 17:21 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla if it's ruled a genericized term they lose the trademark. |
| 17:22 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40658 @ 0.00049896 = 20.2867 BTC [-] |
| 17:22 |
mircea_popescu |
hence "The image was enhanced using A®d®o®be® P®ho®tos®hop®" |
| 17:22 |
mircea_popescu |
they'd put a ® in the ® if somehow it were feasible. |
| 17:22 |
cazalla |
ah so really nothing more than token measure by legal derpartment to ensure they maintain the trademark? |
| 17:23 |
danielpbarron |
pete_dushenski, it's the same rassah that's in the WoT, so... probably the same guy? |
| 17:23 |
danielpbarron |
reminds me i should give him a +1 or something |
| 17:23 |
mircea_popescu |
more like pissing in the wind |
| 17:23 |
danielpbarron |
he was one of the less annoying people I met last week |
| 17:23 |
pete_dushenski |
!gettrust rassah |
| 17:23 |
assbot |
Trust relationship from user pete_dushenski to user rassah: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 2 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=pete_dushenski&to=rassah | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/rassah/ |
| 17:23 |
mircea_popescu |
it doesn't matter what they say, if people use it as a generic term that's that. |
| 17:25 |
ascii_field |
so, it is now possible to sync directly from a sliced-up blkxxxxx dir |
| 17:25 |
ascii_field |
and theoretically end up with SAME blkxxxxx dir that you ate |
| 17:25 |
ascii_field |
e.g., mircea_popescu's 'as it happened' bins |
| 17:25 |
ascii_field |
(if he decides to post'em) |
| 17:25 |
mircea_popescu |
http://qntra.net/2015/07/europol-eurojust-take-down-cybercriminal-group/ << i don't get it, is this the same zeus that's been around for 10+ years ? |
| 17:25 |
assbot |
Europol & Eurojust Take Down Cybercriminal Group | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1GOIguc ) |
| 17:26 |
mircea_popescu |
ascii_field kinda too lazy to figure out how you start a torrent, and how the fuck am i going to serve 50gb dishes to the public ? |
| 17:26 |
ascii_field |
the point, if anyone doesn't get it, is to hunt for nondeterminism ~anywhere~ in bitcoin |
| 17:26 |
ascii_field |
where it oughtn't to be |
| 17:26 |
shinohai |
You need a blockchain torrent? |
| 17:26 |
danielpbarron |
> While I was away from the computer when Rassah finally stopped derping about "escrowless" escrow and his 1,000 BTC Prius and got down to business, here's what transpired when he did. << lol I got to see that thing in person and hear the "story" behind it |
| 17:27 |
ascii_field |
yeah it'd have to be a torrent |
| 17:27 |
mircea_popescu |
danielpbarron yeah, guy's been around forever, i recall his story about selling out at the top cca $13 |
| 17:27 |
danielpbarron |
basically was "at least I didn't lose the 1k in mt gox" |
| 17:28 |
shinohai |
making torrents is easy. Huge file, but doable |
| 17:28 |
danielpbarron |
there's a t-shirt: "Mt. Gox went bankrupt and all I got was this lousy Prius." |
| 17:28 |
ascii_field |
could also slice'em up with blkcut and serve as http! |
| 17:29 |
ascii_field |
whoever wants, can download with script as he needs them |
| 17:30 |
pete_dushenski |
mircea_popescu: same zues, yes. |
| 17:31 |
pete_dushenski |
zeus* |
| 17:31 |
shinohai |
how small can u make the files with blkcut ascii_field |
| 17:31 |
shinohai |
and do i have to reassemble ? |
| |
↖ |
| 17:31 |
ascii_field |
shinohai: eat one is entirely the size of the respective block |
| 17:31 |
ascii_field |
however large it was |
| 17:31 |
ascii_field |
this is elementary |
| 17:31 |
trinque |
it's really called europol and eurojust? |
| 17:31 |
mircea_popescu |
lol ok, good that they caught that zeus villain then |
| 17:32 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah. |
| 17:32 |
shinohai |
>.< |
| 17:32 |
ascii_field |
pete_dushenski: at one point observed that 9 out of 10 malware samples i got to reverse were zeus variants |
| 17:32 |
mircea_popescu |
euros have the most idiotic name shcemes. |
| 17:32 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 78644 @ 0.00051322 = 40.3617 BTC [+] {2} |
| 17:32 |
trinque |
grexit! |
| 17:32 |
trinque |
fucking moronic political neologisms |
| 17:32 |
ascii_field |
incidentally the src of zeus was leaked long ago |
| 17:32 |
ascii_field |
hence the variants |
| 17:32 |
trinque |
at least our turd politicians aren't even clever enough to make those |
| 17:32 |
scoopbot_revived |
MiniGame (S.MG), June 2015 Statement http://trilema.com/2015/minigame-smg-june-2015-statement/ |
| 17:32 |
ascii_field |
nothing earth-shaking, just a complete trojan system for idiots |
| 17:32 |
pete_dushenski |
mircea_popescu: hades is in chains. |
| 17:32 |
pete_dushenski |
ascii_field: that's... a lot. |
| 17:33 |
danielpbarron |
!v assbot:danielpbarron.rate.rassah.1:7d0963bfd9127d46031ea0f8bac168d9f8bb3a63d299918d83ce747fb96eb2f7 |
| 17:33 |
assbot |
Successfully added a rating of 1 for rassah with note: met at porcfest |
| 17:34 |
ascii_field |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1183705 << bitcoin will reassemble |
| 17:34 |
assbot |
Logged on 01-07-2015 21:31:35; shinohai: and do i have to reassemble ? |
| 17:34 |
ascii_field |
that's sorta the whole point |
| 17:34 |
ascii_field |
load, feed into your eater |
| 17:34 |
ascii_field |
at the end of the day, your ~/.bitcoin and other fella's should be identical. |
| 17:35 |
ascii_field |
(save for debug.log) |
| 17:36 |
ascii_field |
the only reason to do this, other than pgp-hardened out of band syncs, is to make your bitcoind walk the same logic path as other fella's |
| 17:36 |
ascii_field |
(or your own from past) |
| 17:36 |
ascii_field |
to test. |
| 17:37 |
* |
ascii_field washes chopping block, picks up gavin feathers |
| 17:38 |
pete_dushenski |
lol time to make a headdress, chief. |
| 17:38 |
ascii_field |
when i've the whole set! |
| 17:39 |
pete_dushenski |
to be donned at the annual ceremony where we'll burn more of mp's woodchips, |
| 17:39 |
mircea_popescu |
stick shavings. |
| 17:39 |
pete_dushenski |
stick shavings then. |
| 17:40 |
danielpbarron |
the link to the file on my site is missing the 'h' from 'http' but i'm not sure i want to know what happens to my connection if that's corrected :/ |
| 17:40 |
pete_dushenski |
and chant the cultiest chant there ever was while nubile princesses dance around our circle |
| 17:41 |
mircea_popescu |
lol then i guess i leave it ? |
| 17:42 |
mircea_popescu |
nothing'll happen, you're hosting a text file. |
| 17:42 |
mircea_popescu |
problems mostly occur to idiots with a ton of js wrapped in who knows what |
| 17:43 |
lobbesbot |
New post: http://nosuchlabs.com/rss Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=4294967297 (Tim Fiedler ; ) <http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/D7B81471B4D1C2FC6AA8D6709F391B026BD1BAFEBAB21AE8BA277C1B3D054536#E284546D92DA7018662D558ED5DFAEA95B9AE98B3A61121D1379C869B054C7F8> || Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=12884901891 (Tim Fiedler ; ) <http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/D7B81471B4D1C2FC6AA8D6709F391B026BD1BAFEBAB21AE8BA277C1B3D054536#90483C149C873479D |
| 17:44 |
trinque |
another .de |
| 17:45 |
ascii_field |
apple corp. |
| 17:45 |
trinque |
and I think he was already in the list with another key |
| 17:45 |
ascii_field |
aha |
| 17:45 |
trinque |
several! |
| 17:45 |
trinque |
cool |
| 17:46 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67857 @ 0.00049872 = 33.8416 BTC [-] {3} |
| 17:46 |
ascii_field |
http://cryptome.org/2015/07/nsa-xks-more-intercept-15-0701.7z << mega-l0l |
| 17:47 |
ascii_field |
'xkeyscore' manual set, apparently |
| 17:47 |
ascii_field |
~650MB ! |
| 17:47 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68700 @ 0.00051695 = 35.5145 BTC [+] {3} |
| 17:47 |
mircea_popescu |
does this qualify as valuable secret in your grille ? |
| 17:47 |
ascii_field |
so far dying of boredom |
| 17:47 |
ascii_field |
wake me up when the real nsa leaks |
| 17:48 |
ascii_field |
the one with hot chix |
| 17:48 |
mircea_popescu |
you gotta jiggle her g spot for leaks. |
| 17:54 |
scoopbot_revived |
UK Gambling Commission Strongarms Some Bitcoin Based Gambling Websites http://qntra.net/2015/07/uk-gambling-commission-strongarms-some-bitcoin-based-gambling-websites/ |
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| 17:54 |
asciilifeform |
!up ascii_field |
| 17:54 |
ascii_field |
'(TS//SI//NF) BLARNEY Team assists S2C52 analysts in implementing Xkeyscore fingerprints that yield access to U.N. Secretary General talking points prior to meeting with POTUS.' |
| 17:55 |
ascii_field |
pathetic. |
| 17:55 |
ascii_field |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1183764 << when do we get to hear from the saudi pr0n commission? |
| 17:55 |
assbot |
Logged on 01-07-2015 21:54:56; scoopbot_revived: UK Gambling Commission Strongarms Some Bitcoin Based Gambling Websites http://qntra.net/2015/07/uk-gambling-commission-strongarms-some-bitcoin-based-gambling-websites/ |
| 17:58 |
mats |
https://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-patches/2015-07/msg00073.html |
| 17:58 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1H0TmP8 ) |
| 17:59 |
pete_dushenski |
cazalla: 'believed to have acquiesced' based on what ? and 'shut down' link is swapped with its archive |
| 17:59 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36250 @ 0.00049456 = 17.9278 BTC [-] {3} |
| 18:00 |
ascii_field |
mircea_popescu: 194000+ |
| 18:02 |
cazalla |
pete_dushenski, fixed and added source |
| 18:03 |
pete_dushenski |
aha nice. |
| 18:04 |
pete_dushenski |
kakobrekla: did you ever receive a notification from the uk gambling commision ? or did they snub you like those chartmakerz |
| 18:05 |
* |
kakobrekla checks mail |
| 18:05 |
kakobrekla |
nothing here |
| 18:05 |
pete_dushenski |
snubbed again. |
| 18:06 |
mats |
if you've been meaning to get a pogo for a node, haven't for whatever reason, are L1/L2, ill send you some btc with honorable condition you purchase and set one up |
| 18:06 |
pete_dushenski |
bitbet and therealbitcoin : blocked out from the land or swarming, smarming idiocy, much to everyone's benefit, since forever |
| 18:07 |
mats |
append a btc addr in channel to my nick to redeem |
| 18:08 |
pete_dushenski |
mats: orly ? |
| 18:08 |
mats |
ya rly |
| 18:08 |
pete_dushenski |
what's 'some btc' ? |
| 18:08 |
pete_dushenski |
!up gares_ |
| 18:09 |
pete_dushenski |
you can talk now, gares_ |
| 18:09 |
mats |
0.1 |
| 18:09 |
pete_dushenski |
damn ! that's titty money ! |
| 18:09 |
mats |
should cover cost of purchase and s&h |
| 18:10 |
pete_dushenski |
...not quite. |
| 18:10 |
pete_dushenski |
but a nice incentive nonetheless |
| 18:11 |
danielpbarron |
mats, what can I do to make my currently running pogo useful to you? |
| 18:14 |
mats |
keep on doing whatever you're doing |
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~ 15 minutes ~ |
| 18:30 |
shinohai |
my original node is stable |
| 18:36 |
mircea_popescu |
i like mats' attitude. |
| 18:39 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182561 << mmmyeah. |
| 18:39 |
assbot |
Logged on 01-07-2015 06:10:14; mats: like its normal to run a half billion dollar net loss in a low margin low moat industry |
| 18:39 |
mircea_popescu |
!up ValentinJesse |
| 18:39 |
mircea_popescu |
but common sense won't apply because... they'll revolutionize! |
| 18:44 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182647 << i can see what you're saying, but im starting to suspect rolling release is the only way to do mmorpgs. |
| 18:44 |
assbot |
Logged on 01-07-2015 08:21:20; *: BingoBoingo hates both Github and "rolling release" |
| 18:44 |
mircea_popescu |
now, why adult software shouldn't be run on a kiddy paradigm is a different story |
| 18:44 |
mircea_popescu |
but for games it's great. |
| 18:45 |
cazalla |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1183595 <<< lucky man then.. my first still to this day is the worst (although might be on account it was my first and as such has become an acquired taste/smell, who knows) |
| 18:45 |
assbot |
Logged on 01-07-2015 20:14:14; williamdunne: Oh, well I'll have to disagree. More often than not, at least with my (limited) experience they smell no different to the rest of whomever it belongs to |
| 18:45 |
jurov |
;;ticker |
| 18:45 |
gribble |
Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 258.46, Best ask: 258.54, Bid-ask spread: 0.08000, Last trade: 258.5, 24 hour volume: 22920.54081272, 24 hour low: 252.77, 24 hour high: 265.37, 24 hour vwap: None |
| 18:46 |
williamdunne |
cazalla: yeah, last night if you'd stuck it in my face with a blindfold on I wouldn't have been able to tell you I had a vagina before me |
| 18:46 |
jurov |
^ thx bitstamp :D |
| 18:46 |
mircea_popescu |
babyface can't tell ? |
| 18:48 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182690 << lol ok |
| 18:48 |
assbot |
Logged on 01-07-2015 10:31:57; cazalla: hmm, got a new warning http://i.imgur.com/66dgj00.png |
| 18:49 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182720 << disk prolly skipped. |
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| 18:49 |
assbot |
Logged on 01-07-2015 12:07:42; asciilifeform: not sure what to blame other than ram fault (experiment was taking place on a portable with non-ecc ram) |
| 18:49 |
* |
mircea_popescu pictures alf car with pathe system. |
| 18:49 |
williamdunne |
mircea_popescu: It was immaculate |
| 18:50 |
mircea_popescu |
hopefully she doesn't conceive on you now. |
| 18:50 |
williamdunne |
That'd be pretty impressive, to be honest |
| 18:51 |
mircea_popescu |
https://github.com/TazeTSchnitzel < top kek |
| 18:51 |
assbot |
TazeTSchnitzel (Andrea Faulds) · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1R5MVSO ) |
| 18:52 |
mircea_popescu |
https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/437#issuecomment-117390699 << i mean |
| 18:52 |
assbot |
timeX.google.com provide non standard time · Issue #437 · systemd/systemd · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1R5MUyh ) |
| 18:53 |
mircea_popescu |
"I don't think that CoreOS registering systemd.pool.ntp.org is the best move. as to me it sounds like @poettering simply doesn't want any end-users to view systemd as some sort of a product providing its own services and, (at least in the minds of some users), being assigned the responsibility for those services or start treating systemd as a separate product, instead of it being an integral part of the distribution |
| 18:53 |
mircea_popescu |
you're using." |
| 18:53 |
mircea_popescu |
ahem |
| 18:53 |
mircea_popescu |
"our goal all along was to avoid responsibility for all the stupid shit we're doing. there's not much fun in stealing if one doesn't steal the having been stolen from at the same time!" |
| 18:54 |
trinque |
this internet thing is a trip; cultures can go to complete shit faster than ever before |
| 18:54 |
mircea_popescu |
in fairness systemd was born sort-of like reddit was born : collecting all the scum frothing at the periphery of a culture. |
| 18:55 |
trinque |
yeah, bunch of outcasts finally having their day |
| 18:55 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-July/000107.html << this is lovely shit. |
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| 18:55 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1R5NrAc ) |
| 18:55 |
trinque |
heh it occurs to me that the USA is sort of that |
| 18:55 |
mircea_popescu |
started off as the exact inverse of that. |
| 18:56 |
trinque |
yeah, the better folks taking their fun elsewhere |
| 18:56 |
trinque |
but not recently |
| 18:57 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182755 << i think he's right ftr. |
| 18:57 |
assbot |
Logged on 01-07-2015 14:40:44; jurov: such "multimedia" stuff is better to publish on blog |
| 19:00 |
shinohai |
37 GB bootstrap.dat xD |
| 19:01 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform note how smoothly the man switched from "we've always said bitcoin has to have larger blocks" to "we;ve always said bitcoin is using up too much electricity" in midsentence! |
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| 19:02 |
mircea_popescu |
i wish fighting the commies ever were as much fun as fighting these congenital retards is. |
| 19:03 |
jurov |
do you plan to kep it compatible with phoundation bootstrap.dat? |
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| 19:03 |
jurov |
*keep |
| 19:03 |
shinohai |
i dunno, i just made one from 0.5.3 for the hell of it |
| 19:04 |
jurov |
did you compare it with their one? |
| 19:04 |
mircea_popescu |
shinohai what's in it ? |
| 19:04 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov you know i don't think i ever played uo... |
| 19:04 |
jurov |
if not compatible, i'd suggest to xz-compress it (xz is easily appendable, i have tried it in practice) |
| 19:04 |
mircea_popescu |
does that make me a bad rpg person ? |
| 19:05 |
jurov |
heh i did neither. only wanted to |
| 19:05 |
shinohai |
I always just cat the blkxxxx.dat's > bootstrap.dat |
| 19:06 |
jurov |
when later i got my hands on perma connection, UO's star faded or whatever |
| 19:15 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1183832 << pretty basic. figured - ~somebody~ has to do that chore |
| 19:15 |
assbot |
Logged on 01-07-2015 22:55:38; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-July/000107.html << this is lovely shit. |
| 19:15 |
asciilifeform |
but now other folks are invited to repeat the experiment |
| 19:16 |
asciilifeform |
next one (after i finish my broadcast..) will involve igprof per-function (yes) snapshots / block |
| 19:17 |
mircea_popescu |
cool beans/ |
| 19:17 |
asciilifeform |
the 30M baseline is jaw-dropping imho |
| 19:18 |
asciilifeform |
i mean, wtf |
| 19:18 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1183841 << eh, the 'too many joules' crowd has been going for ~2y+ now |
| 19:18 |
assbot |
Logged on 01-07-2015 23:01:44; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform note how smoothly the man switched from "we've always said bitcoin has to have larger blocks" to "we;ve always said bitcoin is using up too much electricity" in midsentence! |
| 19:18 |
asciilifeform |
just on the envirowhiner-left side |
| 19:19 |
asciilifeform |
(somehow al gore's jet is not counted as waste of joules, no) |
| 19:19 |
asciilifeform |
student exercise: calculate joules/sec of herr gore's jet, and translate into gigahash |
| 19:20 |
scoopbot_revived |
Jerry Seinfeld's Guide For Aspiring Stand-Up Comedians. http://www.contravex.com/2015/07/01/jerry-seinfelds-guide-for-aspiring-stand-up-comedians/ |
| 19:20 |
mircea_popescu |
"1. be as bland as possible ; 2. find an insecure fuckwit to leech off ; 3. get lucky" |
| 19:20 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1183843 << i don't recall what was in this |
| 19:20 |
assbot |
Logged on 01-07-2015 23:03:08; jurov: do you plan to kep it compatible with phoundation bootstrap.dat? |
| 19:21 |
pete_dushenski |
mircea_popescu: bah, ya cynic. |
| 19:21 |
jurov |
they say it's just <4-byte pchMessageStart><32-bit length><CBlock, serialized in network wire format> |
| 19:22 |
mircea_popescu |
hehehe |
| 19:22 |
asciilifeform |
same as blkxxxx then ? |
| 19:22 |
asciilifeform |
^ try cutting one of them with http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-July/000113.html |
| 19:22 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1LVJXd3 ) |
| 19:22 |
asciilifeform |
if cuts, then same format ! |
| 19:23 |
pete_dushenski |
lol well, with two articles published today, ima sign off for the eve. a river cruise and fireworks await. cheers ! |
| 19:23 |
mircea_popescu |
whereas i am going to go play my game |
| 19:23 |
mircea_popescu |
except i mean that literally. |
| 19:23 |
* |
asciilifeform off to eat caek |
| 19:37 |
trinque |
http://www.ft.com/fastft/353721/worker-killed-volkswagen-robot-accident << "VW said the robot had not suffered a technical defect." << LOL! |
| 19:37 |
assbot |
Worker killed in Volkswagen robot accident - fastFT: Market-moving news and views, 24 hours a day - FT.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1LVLaRo ) |
| 19:37 |
trinque |
gonna need security cam footage of this |
| 19:46 |
williamdunne |
trinque: The guy walked into the security enclosure while the machine was operating |
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| 19:46 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1183815 << mno. that thing has an almost-new 1tb 'samsung' ssd, half-full |
| 19:46 |
assbot |
Logged on 01-07-2015 22:49:39; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182720 << disk prolly skipped. |
| 19:47 |
trinque |
williamdunne: yeah, I'm just amused as shit at the thought of some german guy shouting "EVERYSING IS VURKING ACCORDINK TO SPECIFICATION!" |
| 19:48 |
trinque |
ZEE NORDIK SYSTEM IS VURKINK! |
| 19:48 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1183884 << how many fall into woodchipper every day of the week |
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| 19:48 |
assbot |
Logged on 01-07-2015 23:46:56; williamdunne: trinque: The guy walked into the security enclosure while the machine was operating |
| 19:48 |
asciilifeform |
but when 'robot!111!!!1!11' suddenly - news. |
| 19:48 |
williamdunne |
Exactly |
| 19:48 |
williamdunne |
trinque: Das ist gut, ya? |
| 19:49 |
* |
asciilifeform fwiw, when worked with robot, had all the 'safety' interlocks disabled. they make it damn-near impossible to get real work done |
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| 19:50 |
asciilifeform |
(it was a stationary laboratory robot, ~2x1x1 metres. so all that was at stake was an odd hand or two) |
| 19:51 |
williamdunne |
I could put up with losing my legs, but I would be fucked if I lost my hands |
| 19:51 |
asciilifeform |
so don't lose'em |
| 19:52 |
asciilifeform |
at any rate, more folks lose hands from ordinary qwerty than from any robot |
| 19:52 |
asciilifeform |
pc keyboard, esp. the piece of shit most folks use, is a veritable 'dulap' for hands, yes |
| 19:52 |
mats |
type with your feet! |
| 19:54 |
asciilifeform |
with cock if you like |
| 19:54 |
asciilifeform |
(or physicist s. hawking's rumoured arse joystick!) |
| 19:56 |
mats |
how would that work? morse code? |
| 19:57 |
asciilifeform |
ask'im |
| 19:59 |
williamdunne |
I think its up-down |
| 19:59 |
williamdunne |
So top half of alphabet |
| 19:59 |
williamdunne |
Bottom half |
| 19:59 |
williamdunne |
And keeps refining |
| 19:59 |
williamdunne |
But could be wrong |
| 19:59 |
asciilifeform |
or plain old morse |
| 20:00 |
asciilifeform |
lesson: design your arsestick ~before~ you need it! |
| 20:00 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 241450 @ 0.00048227 = 116.4441 BTC [-] {5} |
| 20:01 |
williamdunne |
Oh, its actually more simplistic than that |
| 20:01 |
williamdunne |
http://www.hawking.org.uk/the-computer.html |
| 20:01 |
assbot |
The Computer - Stephen Hawking ... ( http://bit.ly/1LVNzeX ) |
| 20:03 |
asciilifeform |
l0l, 'eudora' still exists!? |
| 20:03 |
* |
asciilifeform remembers it from his first commercial isp account |
| 20:03 |
asciilifeform |
win 3.1 |
| 20:12 |
asciilifeform |
https://www.kernel.org/doc/gorman/html/understand/understand006.html << for anyone struggling to make sense of http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-July/000107.html |
| 20:12 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1LVORGQ ) |
| 20:12 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1LVORGU ) |
| 20:13 |
asciilifeform |
https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/filesystems/proc.txt << see also. |
| 20:13 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1LVOUlS ) |
| 20:15 |
phf |
asciilifeform: i did blockdump on 0..217336 and all the checksums come out to what's in sums.txt.gz. i'm going to eatblock them with a fresh datadir |
| 20:15 |
asciilifeform |
phf: what kind of node was it ? |
| 20:15 |
asciilifeform |
and when/where synced |
| 20:17 |
lobbesbot |
New post: http://nosuchlabs.com/rss Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=4294967297 (Stephan Urbach ; Herr Urbach ; ) <http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/27ABADEFA10C5A6CE3DBED175888BC9B6D5F40CC2E7895F3460AB8771B49EB17#EA05145DF780174482C93AA25649CAA45909C0CB3EC052B4B4EB0B58B5FA7348> || Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=425201762403 (Stephan Urbach ; Herr Urbach ; ) <http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/27ABADEFA10C5A6CE3DBED175888BC9B6D5F40CC2E7895F |
| 20:17 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1KtLppx ) |
| 20:17 |
phf |
all patches except reward overflow, cuminer snip and igprof, up to eatblock. mac os 10.8, built dynamically with llvm's c and cmake. synced about 5 days ago |
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| 20:17 |
asciilifeform |
neat |
| 20:18 |
asciilifeform |
bonus points for testing on heathen compilers |
| 20:21 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 11 @ 0.15160515 = 1.6677 BTC [-] {3} |
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| 20:42 |
cazalla |
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jul/01/twitter-staff-african-american-diversity |
| 20:42 |
assbot |
Twitter employs only 49 African Americans despite diversity pledges | Technology | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1KtMXQB ) |
| 20:53 |
williamdunne |
Why on earth anyone thinks hiring people for the sake of diversity is a good idea, I will never know |
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| 20:53 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 77775 @ 0.00049062 = 38.158 BTC [+] {2} |
| 21:08 |
funkenstein_ |
williamdunne, how do you pick girlfriends then? |
| 21:08 |
williamdunne |
I haven't had many, so I can't give a good answer. |
| 21:08 |
williamdunne |
But I don't have a quota of minorities to fill |
| 21:08 |
funkenstein_ |
not defending twitter mind you, your point still stands |
| 21:09 |
punkman |
does funkenstein_'s sex life have diversity quotas? |
| 21:09 |
funkenstein_ |
variety is the spice of life |
| 21:10 |
punkman |
you ever try slodging? |
| 21:10 |
williamdunne |
;;ud slodging |
| 21:10 |
gribble |
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=slodging | Slodging. Lodging yourself between inanimate objects and waiting for others to dislodge you. Usually done for sexual pleasure. "Wow, Slodging ourselves into ... |
| 21:10 |
williamdunne |
What the fuck |
| 21:10 |
williamdunne |
Aha |
| 21:10 |
punkman |
http://oglaf.com/slodging/ |
| 21:10 |
assbot |
Slodging ... ( http://bit.ly/1H1pDpj ) |
| 21:11 |
punkman |
(has next page) |
| 21:11 |
funkenstein_ |
like that 127 hours guy? |
| 21:12 |
williamdunne |
Yeah, but you get to fuck the rock |
| 21:13 |
funkenstein_ |
i'm just going to pretend it's supersymmetric lodging and move on |
| 21:16 |
williamdunne |
Yesterday was the most entertaining time I've had in a while |
| 21:16 |
williamdunne |
Had a couple of boxing matches |
| 21:20 |
punkman |
did ya kick anyone's ass? |
| 21:20 |
williamdunne |
Yeah, two peoples |
| 21:20 |
williamdunne |
Well |
| 21:20 |
williamdunne |
They forfeited |
| 21:21 |
williamdunne |
One split their nose, the other got a nosebleed and a semi-bad black eye |
| 21:21 |
punkman |
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2015/06/30/ultima-online-retrospective/ |
| 21:21 |
assbot |
18 Years Later, Why Are People Still Playing Ultima Online? | Rock, Paper, Shotgun ... ( http://bit.ly/1C0jLNS ) |
| 21:25 |
punkman |
"Netflix, Spotify and other streaming services just got more expensive in Chicago as an update to the city’s amusement tax went into effect Wednesday. The change adds a 9 percent tax to Chicago residents’ subscriptions." |
| 21:26 |
williamdunne |
"Amusement Tax", mmmmK |
| 21:26 |
punkman |
it does amuse |
| 21:29 |
williamdunne |
I'm quite curious about how on earth that works as far as jurisdiction goes |
| 21:29 |
williamdunne |
How can Chicago enforce a tax law on a company not based in Chicago? |
| 21:29 |
punkman |
or EU wanting non-EU companies paying VAT |
| 21:30 |
williamdunne |
That one too |
| 21:30 |
williamdunne |
Or the more recent ruling on EU VAT where its billed at the customer country |
| 21:30 |
williamdunne |
Rather than the operator |
| 21:30 |
williamdunne |
So you've got to pay VAT to 20+ agencies IIRC |
| 21:31 |
punkman |
nah supposedly you'll be paying at one and they'll split it up |
| 21:33 |
williamdunne |
Oh, thats a little better but still retarded |
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| 22:03 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: 211814+ |
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| 22:11 |
asciilifeform |
punkman: considerably more interesting, imho, from same site: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2015/06/26/the-flare-path-computer-ambush |
| 22:11 |
assbot |
The Flare Path: Is Computer Ambushed | Rock, Paper, Shotgun ... ( http://bit.ly/1HyoOru ) |
| 22:12 |
asciilifeform |
reminds me of an only slightly later-in-the-'80s game i enjoyed as a boy on ru pc xt clone - 'ranger' |
| 22:12 |
asciilifeform |
i bet mircea_popescu played 'ranger'. |
| 22:15 |
asciilifeform |
https://archive.org/stream/computer_ambush/computer_ambush_djvu.txt << manual to 'ambush' |
| 22:15 |
assbot |
Full text of "Apple Manual: computer ambush" ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ny6IUW ) |
| 22:19 |
asciilifeform |
https://archive.org/stream/computer_ambush#page/n14/mode/1up << gotta love the 'biographies' |
| 22:19 |
assbot |
Apple Manual: computer ambush ... ( http://bit.ly/1HypSvo ) |
| 22:25 |
punkman |
never played that one, but kinda reminds me of Cannon Fodder |
| 22:26 |
mats |
http://www.vox.com/2015/6/29/8845913/russia-war |
| 22:26 |
assbot |
How World War III became possible: A nuclear conflict with Russia is likelier than you think - Vox ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ny7xNo ) |
| 22:26 |
mats |
passably decent analysis overall, although the journalist is quite wrong about ru military inferiority and nato military superiority |
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| 22:32 |
asciilifeform |
mats: as nato reich continues its path down the drainpipe to join the earlier reichs, various folks' temptation to find out 'if the nukes still work |
| 22:32 |
asciilifeform |
will only increase |
| 22:34 |
mats |
i think its inevitable for tactical nukes to be fielded |
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| 23:00 |
funkenstein_ |
some light reading for you mats: http://www.codshit.com/bali.htm |
| 23:00 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1gbVkU9 ) |
| 23:13 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: I used "pegasus mail" client |
| 23:13 |
decimation |
was vastly superior to eudora & alternatives |
| 23:13 |
ben_vulpes |
madison dillon needs some practice |
| 23:14 |
mats |
i dunno how to do the calculations for homemade explosive like that |
| 23:15 |
mats |
but that is of dubious authenticity |
| 23:19 |
mats |
and you'd not be able to hide rad signatures from anybody bothering to look, i would think |
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| 23:19 |
ben_vulpes |
<mircea_popescu> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181766 << not worth a thousand words eh ? << only maybe if well curated, but that breaks the whole algorithmic share allocation routine |
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| 23:19 |
assbot |
Logged on 30-06-2015 15:45:52; assbot: Logged on 28-06-2015 07:53:07; cazalla: ben_vulpes, ay yo charts don't be earning no s.qntr shares CC: pete_dushenski |
| 23:22 |
ben_vulpes |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182919 << why? and how can i possibly evaluate any advice in this context? |
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| 23:22 |
assbot |
Logged on 01-07-2015 16:46:00; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181835 << that's really not the best idea. make it a hammoc, something. |
| 23:22 |
ben_vulpes |
people raise such idiots |
| 23:25 |
funkenstein_ |
mats, if interested, for completeness, https://web.archive.org/web/20030210220533/http://homepage.ntlworld.com/steveseymour/nuke/bali_micro_nuke.htm |
| 23:25 |
assbot |
New Page 1 ... ( http://bit.ly/1ekNzKi ) |
| 23:26 |
funkenstein_ |
it's all public, old, and fiction. great writer though. |
| 23:36 |
mats |
i miss blowing things up |
| 23:47 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80000 @ 0.00050398 = 40.3184 BTC [+] |
| 23:51 |
ben_vulpes |
<mircea_popescu> who wants to run an editor that can open the net ? << why wouldn't your editor connect to the net at your command? |
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| 23:52 |
asciilifeform |
funkenstein_: also interesting, from same, http://homepage.ntlworld.com/steveseymour/nuke/nukes1.htm |
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| 23:52 |
assbot |
MICRO NUKES IN LONDON ... ( http://bit.ly/1f3umOp ) |
| 23:52 |
asciilifeform |
'The April 1993 bomb was supposedly detonated in a parked garbage truck, but managed to create a huge crater in the road that was subsequently filmed by the media: another crucial error confirmed by independent explosives experts in Australia. The blast from most bombs takes the easiest path, in this case outwards then upwards to atmosphere. The crater could only have appeared if the bomb was dropped from an aircraft, or was b |
| 23:52 |
asciilifeform |
uried in advance. Forget the "garbage truck", which was merely a decoy device. The crater is very impressive, measuring roughly forty feet deep by sixty feet in diameter.' |
| 23:54 |
asciilifeform |
'... On the available evidence it seems the aspirations of a small arrogant bunch of men who decided to impose a "New World Order'" on a host of very unwilling small sovereign nations, did not think the exercise through to its perhaps inevitable conclusion. Those same arrogant men have placed tens of millions of citizens at risk because of their own gross incompetence and thirst for absolute power. The "New World Order" now se |
| 23:54 |
asciilifeform |
ems set to face the unbridled wrath of large numbers of citizens for many years to come.' |
| 23:57 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-07-2015#1183998 << author argues (in piece linked above) that the 'dirty bomb' meme was a fiction crafted as a pill against just this. |
| 23:57 |
assbot |
Logged on 02-07-2015 03:19:44; mats: and you'd not be able to hide rad signatures from anybody bothering to look, i would think |