00:21 |
verisimilitude |
Yes, we could chat about how our skin is melting off, say. |
00:23 |
verisimilitude |
Joking aside, is anyone here even near Russia? |
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00:59 |
signpost |
verisimilitude: hey man, I'll toast the end with y'all. |
00:59 |
signpost |
doubt it's likely to get that far. |
01:02 |
verisimilitude |
Yes, thanks to brave people like this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30493948 |
01:02 |
verisimilitude |
The ``tech companies'' need to interfere in geopolitics, for democracy's sake. |
01:06 |
signpost |
hoping these arrogant fuckers at least experience a little educative hunger. |
01:08 |
verisimilitude |
I don't think that would work anymore. |
01:08 |
verisimilitude |
``This is just like when Harry Potter lived in the woods you guys!'' |
01:09 |
signpost |
I wouldn't expect that fantasy to impact reality gently. |
01:12 |
signpost |
what'd it take in 2020, a month or two of unemployment before riots? |
01:19 |
verisimilitude |
Weren't those negro riots? |
01:23 |
verisimilitude |
Yes; they'll riot whenever the TV commands them, signpost. |
01:27 |
vex |
got a tranciever wrapped in lead somewhere signpost? |
01:28 |
vex |
I'll prolly get texas if shit goes quiet |
01:31 |
signpost |
verisimilitude: looked to be mostly idle white kids to me. |
01:31 |
signpost |
vex: nah, if shit gets that bad there's not much left to do. |
01:32 |
signpost |
I probably wont be in Texas much longer. I've just been waiting on a real estate implosion to relocate. |
01:32 |
* |
signpost sniffs, smells capitulation. |
01:36 |
mats |
do you think that's likely? housing supply is tight all over |
01:37 |
mats |
and probably will be for years |
01:38 |
mats |
low interest rates pulled forward a lot of buying |
01:41 |
verisimilitude |
Say, asciilifeform, I'm going to try my different approach to UDP in Ada again, modelling the grotesque C structs with Ada to avoid C as much as feasible. This will, unfortunately, break when the underlying definitions change across UNIXen, but this is acceptable to me. |
01:42 |
vex |
it's not going straight to 30% tho is it mats? |
01:43 |
signpost |
mats: my sense is that a recession will cause a lot of downsizing. |
01:43 |
signpost |
where I'm looking there aren't a lot of buyers either. |
01:44 |
verisimilitude |
That requires owning things to downsize. |
01:44 |
vex |
i guess a couple of pips might hurt ppl |
01:44 |
verisimilitude |
We know the people who own the most things will be fine. |
01:46 |
vex |
what's the bet alf paid cash |
01:54 |
vex |
don't want a lien on the dead trees & hardware storage |
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02:12 |
vex |
thimbronion, did you solve for pest dupes? |
02:15 |
* |
vex weighs the emotional damage that could be done if wot cunts could rate'im |
02:16 |
vex |
cdd whtchu reckon kid? sink or swim? |
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02:26 |
vex |
i'm trying to thing of an awesome. jp honorific for verisimilitude's yotsuba |
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02:26 |
verisimilitude |
What? |
02:27 |
vex |
run ur own matey |
02:27 |
vex |
chan, kun... there must be a better descriptor |
02:28 |
verisimilitude |
The word being sought is ``imageboard''. |
02:28 |
verisimilitude |
I already help run one, vex. |
02:28 |
vex |
ah, which is that? |
02:29 |
verisimilitude |
It's Lainchan. |
02:30 |
verisimilitude |
Read the rules before posting. |
02:34 |
verisimilitude |
To inform those here, I loathe the Japanese nature of most imageboards, and suppress it. |
02:36 |
vex |
chan implicitly describes those which are kawaii desu ne? |
02:38 |
verisimilitude |
Yes, but it also abbreviates ``channel''. |
02:38 |
vex |
yeah, no |
02:43 |
verisimilitude |
Yeah, yes. |
02:43 |
vex |
ok |
02:44 |
vex |
it obiously does, as you just described. |
02:45 |
vex |
.jp is such a vast language, I feel like it'd be respectuful to use some other terminology to copy their work again |
02:47 |
vex |
I wouldn't recommend it tho, you'll need lots of jannies |
02:53 |
thimbronion |
vex solved afaict |
02:54 |
vex |
nice work |
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03:22 |
vex |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkvn00uk8zI |
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~ 8 hours 14 minutes ~ |
11:36 |
crtdaydreams |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-02-27#1081240 << U mean housing market, register for wot or floods? |
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11:36 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-02-27 21:16:14 vex: cdd whtchu reckon kid? sink or swim? |
11:44 |
crtdaydreams |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-02-27#1081241 call it nurunuru chan or somethin. ya could probably score a .ru tld for a memorable domain. |
11:44 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-02-27 21:26:22 vex: i'm trying to thing of an awesome. jp honorific for verisimilitude's yotsuba |
11:52 |
crtdaydreams |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-02-28#1081262 << To answer anyway; Housing market's fucked, don't touch it. Register for WoT, become flesh. Swim. |
11:52 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-02-28 06:36:23 crtdaydreams: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-02-27#1081240 << U mean housing market, register for wot or floods? |
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15:49 |
thimbronion |
$ticker btc usd |
15:49 |
busybot |
Current BTC price in USD: $40630.6 |
15:55 |
billymg |
NASDAQ collapsing, bitcoin UP! |
15:56 |
shinohai |
In Shithub lulz: https://github.com/github/feedback/discussions/12042 |
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15:56 |
billymg |
reference to this old tardstalk thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=68655.0 |
15:58 |
billymg |
my trbexplorer instance is almost synced now, at 708k (it's been running almost 11 days continuous) |
15:59 |
billymg |
whaack: dunno if you tested that, but i think it would be fair for you to list the sync time as ~12 days provided one starts with a fully synced trb. i don't think it's fair to trbexplorer to have to include trb's slow sync time |
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16:00 |
billymg |
shinohai: lol, these fucking people |
16:01 |
shinohai |
While they are pouring vodka into sewers and banning Russians on soshul media, why not dump all their ETH since Vitalik is Russian? |
16:05 |
thimbronion |
shinohai: lulz at shithub. Who could have predicted? |
16:06 |
billymg |
shinohai: excellent idea re: dump putin coin |
16:06 |
shinohai |
Guess asciilifeform better pack it up too |
16:07 |
asciilifeform |
shinohai: a++ lulz. ban'em from shithub, from microshit, embargo all shipments of donald duck stickers & lgbtpqrs flags etc |
16:07 |
* |
shinohai imagines dumbfucks chopping up fuckgoats with an axe .... |
16:08 |
asciilifeform |
shinohai: pretty sure already featured in 'mp footshoot show' but can't recall precisely, lol |
16:08 |
shinohai |
kek |
16:08 |
billymg |
seen in a heathen pit: "amd/intel will stop selling chips to russia, what does this mean? no more nsa backdoors" |
16:09 |
asciilifeform |
импортозамещение (tm)(r)(c) |
16:09 |
thimbronion |
Elbrus's time to shine! |
16:11 |
thimbronion |
They can just build beowulf clusters using russian made z80s |
16:12 |
shinohai |
bwahahahaha |
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17:15 |
asciilifeform |
fwiw if ru had its shit together (i.e. had been fully de-eltsinized) there'd be no ukrs, the latter would've been rm -rf'd no later than '14 |
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17:27 |
cgra |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-02-27#1081208 << close enough to ponder whether finland's next, or what was going on again |
17:27 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-02-27 19:22:54 verisimilitude: Joking aside, is anyone here even near Russia? |
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~ 22 minutes ~ |
17:49 |
BingoBoingo |
A machine died, been saltmining, may take a while to catch up to log |
17:49 |
asciilifeform |
wb BingoBoingo ! |
17:50 |
BingoBoingo |
In the past month US down ~19% versus Brasil's Real, 5.3% versus Peso Uruguay |
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17:50 |
* |
shinohai salutes BingoBoingo o7 |
18:03 |
billymg |
good to see you again, BingoBoingo |
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18:20 |
verisimilitude |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-02-28#1081271 Watch out Russia, this man is out to get you: https://github.com/gakowalski |
18:20 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-02-28 10:56:06 shinohai: In Shithub lulz: https://github.com/github/feedback/discussions/12042 |
18:24 |
verisimilitude |
Oh say, I recently learned two more irregular Latin adjectives; MAGNVS is positive, MĀIOR comparative, and MĀXIMVS superlative; the same pattern plays with PARVVS, MINOR, and MINIMVS. I wonder why. |
18:25 |
thimbronion |
wb BingoBoingo |
18:25 |
verisimilitude |
I was never taught the full name of Jupiter in school, either, JVPPITER OPTIMVS MĀXIMVS. |
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19:05 |
signpost |
ok, these propaganda videos with the hot ukr girls are pretty entertaining. |
19:05 |
signpost |
https://twitter.com/JackPadula2002/status/1498360247328645133 |
19:07 |
signpost |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-02-21#1080233 << apparently, now that ukraine's been broken, can not only join NATO but perhaps EU! |
19:07 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-02-21 17:50:37 asciilifeform: ( see also old man milosevic .) |
19:13 |
asciilifeform |
wainot straight to 51st us state, lol |
19:19 |
signpost |
asciilifeform: I was surprised to learn recently that there are, in fact, neo-nazi militias in the ukr army. |
19:20 |
asciilifeform |
signpost: since '14. |
19:20 |
dulapbot |
(trilema) 2014-03-12 asciilifeform: 'The guest post from Renée last week appeared on this blog because Huffington Post refused to run it. And now I hear that no comment linking the new Ukrainian government to the neo-Nazis or the neo-Nazis to the mass murder in Kiev can get through on any news site. It seems like there is an actual news blackout on this message.' |
19:20 |
asciilifeform |
signpost: they have seats in parliament, private armies, etc. and eagerly cosplay |
19:20 |
asciilifeform |
100% usg noose blackout re subj tho |
19:21 |
asciilifeform |
(ukronazis have public www's, w/out any shame, but conveniently none afaik in engl.) |
19:22 |
asciilifeform |
were instrumental in the '14 usg coup in ukristan. |
19:23 |
signpost |
makes sense; we're backing al qaeda in yemen now, or have we changed sides again. |
19:24 |
signpost |
europe too looks like it's being brought to ruin to keep it subordinated to the US. |
19:24 |
* |
signpost is not suddenly realizing this, but noting a new level of brazenness. |
19:25 |
asciilifeform |
were ruined already in '45, when converted to satrapies of washington |
19:26 |
signpost |
no argument to contrary, but seems like someone thinks the grass has gotten too tall over there. |
19:26 |
signpost |
not like US can supplement their natgas, or agriculture, at sufficient scale. |
19:26 |
asciilifeform |
'45..'16 was not so bad thing to be washington's sofa. cleaned, polished, not sat on too vigorously. then tighter belts in printoladistan, and sofa -- to furnace |
19:27 |
signpost |
last boomer gift before death will be total loss of the empire. |
19:29 |
asciilifeform |
$ticker btc usd |
19:29 |
busybot |
Current BTC price in USD: $41152.89 |
19:29 |
asciilifeform |
sadly empire very much still inbiz; ^ no chg in # of 0s |
19:31 |
verisimilitude |
Oh no, not the Ukrainian neo-Nazis; they probably don't even believe a man can give birth! |
19:32 |
signpost |
here comes the *chan guy making edgy pro-nazi comments. |
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19:33 |
asciilifeform |
verisimilitude: this'd describe ~100% of orc world, not simply the cosplay folx parading in grandfather's ss uniform |
19:33 |
verisimilitude |
I'm being sarcastic, asciilifeform. |
19:34 |
PeterL |
sarcasm doesn't carry well over text |
19:34 |
verisimilitude |
No ``neo-Nazi'' is a member of the German party; it's a misnomer. |
19:34 |
verisimilitude |
The amusing exhaustion of the term ``nazi'' doesn't help. |
19:34 |
signpost |
are communists not also such because they aren't all in the same national party? |
19:34 |
verisimilitude |
I'd thought the exclamation mark would help, PeterL. |
19:35 |
signpost |
by mass, earth's weaklings are mostly white, verisimilitude. |
19:35 |
shinohai |
I just gave birth to a 1lb brown bundle of joy, wanna see pics verisimilitude ? |
19:35 |
verisimilitude |
Communism, like Jewry, knows no such borders, signpost. |
19:36 |
verisimilitude |
I don't want a toilet picture, no, shinohai. |
19:36 |
shinohai |
ghehehehe |
19:36 |
asciilifeform |
verisimilitude: ukristan is a kind of 'jurassic park' where plain old, w/out 'neo', nazis (i.e. direct inheritors of '41-'44 attempt at 'europeanization') still alive & kickin' |
19:36 |
dulapbot |
(trilema) 2018-05-14 asciilifeform: there's a common set of jokes from su, q: 'if only we let germany win, we'd be drinking bavarian! riding in mercedes!' a: '... yes, ride in mercedes. but -- as the leather seat.' |
19:37 |
verisimilitude |
Alright; personally, I don't care about Ukraine, but that's interesting to learn. |
19:38 |
signpost |
verisimilitude: that jewry gave you many of your most important physicists, etc. |
19:38 |
signpost |
you're a crass idiot from an easy life. |
19:38 |
verisimilitude |
I'm not criticizing Jews, signpost, just making a comparison, since Marx was Jewish. |
19:39 |
verisimilitude |
I admire some of the computing pioneers, such as John McCarthy, but I've not read much about his religious beliefs or lack thereof. |
19:40 |
verisimilitude |
I'm anything but an idiot, signpost, regardless of what anyone thinks of me. |
19:43 |
verisimilitude |
I seem to have struck a nerve with signpost, however; why not explain ``by mass, earth's weaklings are mostly white'', even though I didn't get upset about that, signpost? |
19:43 |
PeterL |
I suppose the current conflict will help the nationalists in Ukr, "look at our brave heroes defending our homeland, we are so much cooler than anybody else" |
19:43 |
asciilifeform |
verisimilitude: moar interesting is the 'big pic' -- the current war in fact started from 4th crusade, and continues episodically in form of various 'drang nach osten' by impoverished western eureichs, who will not give up dream of 'lebensraum' and delish phree minerals from 'unfairly squatted by orcs' 1/6th of planet3 |
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19:45 |
verisimilitude |
While I appreciate these explanations, asciilifeform, they may be wasted on me. |
19:45 |
asciilifeform |
at one pt, reich installed mole (gorby) and 'won', and feasted on the delish minerals + sawed-up su industrial base & manpower for all of '90s |
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19:45 |
asciilifeform |
then 'unwon' and 'omfg111' |
19:45 |
signpost |
verisimilitude: the 4chan "fascists" will not survive a great depression. you are among them. |
19:46 |
signpost |
stating this fact does not mean I am upset. |
19:46 |
verisimilitude |
I don't use 4chan's /pol/, signpost. |
19:46 |
verisimilitude |
I don't use 8kun either. |
19:47 |
verisimilitude |
I don't foresee any such survival woes. |
19:48 |
asciilifeform |
today's cosplay fascisms -- project of same folx as baked prev. set in '30s. |
19:48 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-08-09 13:06:33 asciilifeform: thimbronion: dulles for his part was working for same folx who had commissioned and funded hitler to begin with. |
19:48 |
verisimilitude |
Why pick on the fascists, and not the insect-like communists swarming around in the cities, who are even worse off? |
19:48 |
asciilifeform |
verisimilitude: exactly same people, lol, in diff. costumes |
19:49 |
verisimilitude |
They're certainly just labels to an extent, yes. |
19:49 |
signpost |
verisimilitude: the reason you will fail is that you think you will be recognized by something powerful someday, which is a slave's idea of power. |
19:49 |
verisimilitude |
What's wrong about acknowledging most people shouldn't have even the illusion of any political power, signpost? |
19:49 |
signpost |
"were the fascists in power they'd pat me on the head for my latin studies" |
19:49 |
verisimilitude |
Now, signpost, I don't want to sling insults, but I don't think this way. |
19:50 |
asciilifeform |
verisimilitude: the consistent pov would be to also not show up when they're handing out costumes & alt-illusion |
19:50 |
verisimilitude |
Yes. |
19:50 |
asciilifeform |
the costume, verisimilitude , dun do anyffin. recall the legendary warning printed on 'superman' costume in u.s. toystores -- 'warning: does not enable flight' |
19:51 |
verisimilitude |
I wasn't aware, but that's amusing. |
19:51 |
asciilifeform |
apropos. |
19:52 |
asciilifeform |
ss costume needs similar tag: 'warning: does not enable blitzkrieg'; 'communist' costume needs similar; etc |
19:52 |
verisimilitude |
I reject labels for this reason, but I could be considered ``fascist'' or ``authoritarian'' in my beliefs. |
19:52 |
signpost |
heh, and "no step on snek" flag does not turn one into jefferson |
19:52 |
verisimilitude |
Even a monarchy doesn't have some of the issues current society has. |
19:52 |
asciilifeform |
signpost: for instance. |
19:53 |
asciilifeform |
verisimilitude: iirc yer in favour of honest monarchism, i.e. where openly declared god-emperor, rather than current lizard's rule by illusion. cosplaying serves the latter. |
19:53 |
signpost |
verisimilitude: listen, your use of "negro" and "jewry", you're the internet tough guy that thinks world *ought to* elevate you. |
19:53 |
signpost |
go, elevate. |
19:54 |
verisimilitude |
Honesty is always better, yes. |
19:54 |
verisimilitude |
I'm elevating myself, signpost. |
19:54 |
* |
asciilifeform does not begrudge folx their costume hobbies, but reserves right to lol when sees symptoms of folx thinking the superman cape enables flight. |
19:54 |
signpost |
this exactly. |
19:54 |
verisimilitude |
I'm not learning Latin so that senpai will notice me, but to learn for its own sake. |
19:54 |
asciilifeform |
a++ |
19:55 |
verisimilitude |
I'm in this channel because I for now respect some of the people here as my betters, and wish to learn more from them. |
19:56 |
verisimilitude |
I use the technical terms for referring to groups of people, signpost. |
19:56 |
signpost |
you use them because they're cheap ways to say "and at least I'm not them" |
19:56 |
asciilifeform |
verisimilitude: i rec to think re whether the contemplated groups actually exist as pictured, rather than in wardrobe of lizards' costume theatre. |
19:56 |
verisimilitude |
I can't be glad I'm the way I'm? |
19:57 |
signpost |
curious how far up the nazi racial hierarchy verisimilitude finds himself. |
19:57 |
asciilifeform |
for instance, folx who think 'at least we're white, our shithole will never approach zimbabwe' have surprise coming (e.g. ukristan at approx. level of zimbabwe for 20+y nao, by whatever metric you like) |
19:58 |
verisimilitude |
I think of it less that way, and more by intelligence. Everyone here is probably more intelligent than %95 of the population, signpost. |
19:58 |
signpost |
look also at what the british did to themselves. |
19:59 |
signpost |
verisimilitude: yes, and I'm potato irish, southern italian, greek, and a few other things the wehrmacht would've chewed up given time |
19:59 |
verisimilitude |
I don't see how that's my problem. |
19:59 |
signpost |
"hold still buddy, we'll cut those off of the british part" |
20:00 |
signpost |
verisimilitude: those are all people with greatness. there is no problem. |
20:01 |
verisimilitude |
Good. |
20:02 |
verisimilitude |
I think signpost is trapped in the issue of ``The Nazis did eugenics, thus eugenics are bad.''. |
20:02 |
verisimilitude |
Breed dogs and horses and everything under the sun, but man is special for some reason. |
20:03 |
signpost |
yes, because man always thinks he can construct an authority greater than reality itself to decide who goes into the woodchipper. |
20:03 |
verisimilitude |
Oh yes, it's so bad when the nazis do it, but what about the communists and every other group on the planet who also do it? |
20:03 |
asciilifeform |
verisimilitude: the actual problem wasn't even the woodchipper, but w/ being tools of the lizards. (old man adolph discarded as soon as 'went off reservation') |
20:05 |
signpost |
verisimilitude: rejecting naziism does not imply approval of communism. what is this, american politics now? |
20:05 |
verisimilitude |
Every group kills others, with few exceptions, signpost. |
20:05 |
verisimilitude |
This ``woodchipper'' is just nature. |
20:05 |
PeterL |
what is even the difference between nazi and communist? |
20:06 |
asciilifeform |
PeterL: the diff is what remains after take off the costumes. |
20:06 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-02-28 14:43:20 asciilifeform: verisimilitude: moar interesting is the 'big pic' -- the current war in fact started from 4th crusade, and continues episodically in form of various 'drang nach osten' by impoverished western eureichs, who will not give up dream of 'lebensraum' and delish phree minerals from 'unfairly squatted by orcs' 1/6th of planet3 |
20:07 |
signpost |
verisimilitude: I take this as hopeless men projecting their suicidality on all they encounter. |
20:07 |
signpost |
"there is nothing to do but decide who will be butchered" and there's a practically infinite universe to expand into. |
20:08 |
verisimilitude |
Were I suicidal, I'd have killed myself already. |
20:08 |
verisimilitude |
I chose to learn and create, instead. |
20:09 |
asciilifeform |
PeterL: in 1900s, as inescapable consequence of industrialization planet3 was carved up into totalitarian reichs. these have gone and will continue to go by various names, issue costumes. |
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20:09 |
signpost |
for example, men who were not cowards would've immediately sought alliance with the dissolved USSR. |
20:10 |
signpost |
Putin asked Clinton about joining NATO. this was the correct move. |
20:10 |
signpost |
even from the perspective of ultimate solipsistic selfishness. |
20:11 |
signpost |
consider the achievement of the ISS; that was done as *enemies* |
20:15 |
PeterL |
so is there a difference between reich of Putin and reich of Biden, other than the color of the uniforms? |
20:17 |
verisimilitude |
Putin is cooler. |
20:17 |
verisimilitude |
He's also not senile, right? |
20:17 |
PeterL |
Biden has non-senile pushing the buttons, I assume |
20:18 |
PeterL |
s/non-senilte people |
20:18 |
PeterL |
bah, can't type today |
20:19 |
signpost |
asciilifeform: entirely possible that orwell's wrong about one bit, the stability of the machine. |
20:19 |
signpost |
looks to be ratcheting into use of the bombs. |
20:19 |
signpost |
PeterL: I don't think it matters, because much of the counter-attack for any button press is automated. |
20:20 |
signpost |
when one reads the history of the cold war, it's clear we survived entirely by accident. |
20:22 |
verisimilitude |
I agree that space is cooler and a better pursuit; where do I sign up, signpost? |
20:22 |
verisimilitude |
Should I pull myself into space by my bootstraps? |
20:23 |
verisimilitude |
I do what I can. |
20:23 |
signpost |
listen arguing with you isn't total condemnation. |
20:23 |
signpost |
but yeah, most you can do is have kids so your great grandkids might have a shot. |
20:24 |
signpost |
you and I are most likely going to live through war. the empire will be saying it'll stay provincial until it doesn't. |
20:24 |
signpost |
well, most likely die through war, lol. |
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20:24 |
verisimilitude |
Who knows. Maybe the lizards will finally show us the aliens instead. |
20:25 |
PeterL |
you think more likely somebody invades US or US devolves into civil war? |
20:25 |
signpost |
a friend of mine and I have an ongoing humorous thread about humans being a client species. |
20:26 |
verisimilitude |
Explain, signpost. |
20:26 |
verisimilitude |
I've read WWIII will be started before USCWII. |
20:28 |
PeterL |
*citation needed |
20:29 |
verisimilitude |
The reasoning is the USG would survive the former, but not the latter. |
20:29 |
signpost |
verisimilitude: such as.. all our messianic and "end of days" myths are loosening us up for their arrival. |
20:29 |
verisimilitude |
IVPPITER OPTIMVS MĀXIMVS |
20:31 |
signpost |
side note, it'd entertain the hell out of me if whatever objects zipping around turned out to be actual non-human machinery, *and* they haven't even noticed we're here. |
20:31 |
signpost |
we're just that uninteresting. |
20:31 |
signpost |
they pop by to refuel on water, and depart a seemingly uninhabited planet. |
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20:32 |
verisimilitude |
Oh, so this is more Lovecraftian is it? |
20:33 |
signpost |
former is, latter is how I think it'd actually work. |
20:33 |
signpost |
humans rounding to chimps by any lasting measure of civilization. |
20:35 |
signpost |
imagine how easy it would be for an external adversary, should one exist, to cause total destruction on earth given that all of earth's weapons are aimed at one's own head. |
20:35 |
verisimilitude |
There have been many jokes to that effect, yes. |
20:48 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-02-28#1081436 << 'die not the straw death'(tm)(r)(allfather odin). fwiw asciilifeform likes to mention to locals 'washington real estate expensive cuz errybody wants to live on the bull's eye, not worry about fallout' |
20:48 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-02-28 15:24:11 signpost: well, most likely die through war, lol. |
20:50 |
asciilifeform |
( moscow real estate fwiw costs similarly. ) |
20:50 |
verisimilitude |
That's amusing. |
20:51 |
asciilifeform |
sadly not literally factual -- e.g. highest bull's eye density in usa in fact north dakota, and iirc still pretty cheap. |
20:53 |
PeterL |
why would you target north dakota? |
20:53 |
asciilifeform |
PeterL: silos |
20:54 |
asciilifeform |
PeterL: almost all nukes traditionally aimed at the supposed location of other nukes |
20:56 |
signpost |
I figure ports too. |
20:57 |
PeterL |
I've heard that my town is a decent target if somebody wanted to disrupt production of e.g. consumer plastics, I'm not sure how true though |
20:57 |
asciilifeform |
signpost: ports + errything else strictly 2ndary |
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21:23 |
signpost |
probably the fragility of supply chains ranks far above nuclear attack, though even if we're talking about nukes only hitting other launchers, I'd expect substantial fallout. taking those out isn't going to involve detonation at altitude. |
21:23 |
signpost |
re: supply chains and infrastructure, texas may even crumble at the next chilly day, needs no cyber-attacker. |
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22:33 |
verisimilitude |
It's amazing how multiple countries have nuclear missiles, but LSI semiconductor manufacturing is increasingly concentrated; that shows how much more natural nuclear weapons are than computers. |
22:33 |
verisimilitude |
Well, VLSI. |
22:35 |
asciilifeform |
'40s tech moar distributed than '90s -- noose at 11 |
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23:33 |
asciilifeform |
meanwhile... cement testbed at 500+k. |
23:34 |
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asciilifeform does not recall if at that height most blox already 'heavy', may yet walk even slower than previously if notyet |
23:39 |
signpost |
$ticker btc usd |
23:39 |
busybot |
Current BTC price in USD: $43275.48 |
23:39 |
signpost |
still truckin. |
23:43 |
asciilifeform |
well, in circles, lol. but truckin |
23:48 |
verisimilitude |
Running in circles is a sign of life, at least unless it be an ant death-spiral. |