| 00:09 |
thimbronion |
200 day moving average is roughly 20k |
| 00:13 |
thimbronion |
er, hm, I meant week |
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| 00:14 |
thimbronion |
moves up only |
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~ 23 minutes ~ |
| 00:37 |
* |
thimbronion formally requests from shinohai 200 wma stat from busybot |
| 00:48 |
shinohai |
$mabtc |
| 00:50 |
shinohai |
$mabtc |
| 00:50 |
shinohai |
well I tried thimbronion lol |
| 00:50 |
thimbronion |
shinohai: lol |
| 00:55 |
verisimilitude |
I use Namecheap, how wonderful: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30504812 |
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| 00:59 |
shinohai |
$mabtc |
| 00:59 |
busybot |
The 200 day moving avg. for BTC is 45,556.47 USD |
| 00:59 |
shinohai |
^ thimbronion |
| 01:03 |
thimbronion |
shinohai: Ah actually was wanting the 200 week moving average. Sorry for the confusion: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-02-28#1081478 |
| 01:03 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-02-28 19:12:54 thimbronion: er, hm, I meant week |
| 01:03 |
thimbronion |
200 day is still pretty volatile |
| 01:05 |
shinohai |
Hmm might hafta dig a bit to find source for the 200 wk data. |
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~ 39 minutes ~ |
| 01:44 |
verisimilitude |
No, I use Moniker; I'm not paying attention very well. |
| 01:45 |
verisimilitude |
I see the price for verisimilitudes.com is $3,493.75, I figure due to me. |
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~ 1 hours 26 minutes ~ |
| 03:12 |
mats |
rip ukr |
| 03:13 |
mats |
putin took one for the team; now the whole world knows without a doubt that dollars are not fungible |
| 03:14 |
asciilifeform |
mats: this in re ukrowank overall, or specific event today ? |
| 03:14 |
mats |
bit stale, but the theft of ru central bank money |
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| 03:14 |
asciilifeform |
a |
| 03:14 |
mats |
the so-called rules based international order will not respect property rights |
| 03:15 |
asciilifeform |
quite the mpexing eh |
| 03:17 |
mats |
ofac has gone quite a bit further than just robbing a bunch of muslim charities, the odd casino in macau, a rando chinese corp that washed money into north korea |
| 03:17 |
asciilifeform |
wai putin didn't ~start~ with selling off his mpex^H^H^H^Hreichsbank holdings (or for that matter wai to do all of this nao rather than in '14) remains mystery |
| 03:17 |
mats |
could've traded it all for rmb |
| 03:18 |
mats |
painting the man into a corner makes the risk of tactical nuking of a ukr city so much more plausible now |
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| 03:21 |
asciilifeform |
mats: asciilifeform's guess is that he's hobbled by traitorous ministers who already reserved villas in miami. is the only half-plausible explanation for over9000 'whys' |
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| 03:22 |
asciilifeform |
(see also) |
| 03:22 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-02-28 12:15:17 asciilifeform: fwiw if ru had its shit together (i.e. had been fully de-eltsinized) there'd be no ukrs, the latter would've been rm -rf'd no later than '14 |
| 03:23 |
asciilifeform |
( historians scratching heads re 'stalin purges' -- scratch no moar, here's wathappens when yer 'soft' and refrain ) |
| 03:23 |
mats |
at least we'll have bitcorns to eat |
| 03:23 |
asciilifeform |
$ticker btc usd |
| 03:23 |
busybot |
Current BTC price in USD: $42986.83 |
| 03:24 |
asciilifeform |
^ lol just the usual atmospheric hiss |
| 03:24 |
mats |
the one escape from all this totalitarian shite |
| 03:24 |
asciilifeform |
mats: will be lulzy if the pinched dough goes straight to 'buy up btc to dump' |
| 03:25 |
asciilifeform |
( buy, naturally, 'from dark', dump -- on public goxes ) |
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| 03:29 |
asciilifeform |
continuing w/ this pov -- exactly 0 stopped ru from at any pt in past decade demanding btc payment for gas etc |
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| 03:29 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-02-28 22:21:08 asciilifeform: mats: asciilifeform's guess is that he's hobbled by traitorous ministers who already reserved villas in miami. is the only half-plausible explanation for over9000 'whys' |
| 03:29 |
asciilifeform |
nuffin except miamiism. |
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~ 24 minutes ~ |
| 03:53 |
verisimilitude |
So many people are going to commit suicide when SHA256 is broken. |
| 03:55 |
verisimilitude |
Imagine an alien watching that, watching bloodlines end because of a mathematical discovery. |
| 04:05 |
asciilifeform |
'pssst... p==np' ... wagner,cyanide |
| 04:08 |
asciilifeform |
verisimilitude: subj has loong history in log btw, if yer curious. |
| 04:08 |
dulapbot |
(trilema) 2016-10-20 asciilifeform: you - yes, me - yes ; fella with the sha2 pill - ~0. |
| 04:08 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2020-05-10 21:34:28 asciilifeform: *sha2 |
| 04:09 |
asciilifeform |
( see also various thrds re 'rsa pill', for completeness ) |
| 04:21 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-02-28#1081485 << lulzy. asciilifeform has coupla reichdns parked there, but still not kicked out! (where to complain?? or must suppose, asciilifeform's street creds as 'putler stooge' are weak..) |
| 04:21 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-02-28 19:55:00 verisimilitude: I use Namecheap, how wonderful: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30504812 |
| 04:22 |
asciilifeform |
funnily enuff orig. went to it from mp's rec. |
| 04:24 |
asciilifeform |
apropos, his www currently sitting in ukristan (formerly moscow, iirc last yr sumbody moved it) |
| 04:27 |
verisimilitude |
One would think a name like Stanislav would be dedicated even with their poor heuristic methods. |
| 04:28 |
verisimilitude |
s/dedicated/detected/ |
| 04:28 |
asciilifeform |
verisimilitude: could just as readily be an upstanding ukr or polack tho |
| 04:29 |
* |
asciilifeform in fact per usg considered, shit thee not, an ukr |
| 04:30 |
verisimilitude |
People were complaining about such methods in the discussion, in any case. |
| 04:30 |
asciilifeform |
verisimilitude: seems that they banned folx who (at some pt) hosted in ru |
| 04:30 |
* |
asciilifeform funnily enuff made # of (failed) attempts to find sane hoster in ru (& elsewhere) |
| 04:35 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-02-28#1081505 << wet dream of the lizards. |
| 04:35 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-02-28 22:18:26 mats: painting the man into a corner makes the risk of tactical nuking of a ukr city so much more plausible now |
| 04:35 |
dulapbot |
(trilema) 2016-08-13 asciilifeform: 'kick the dog till it bites, then shoot it' is standard anglo approach, from boer war, to ww2 japan, to every poor motherfucker like the one in link |
| 04:36 |
asciilifeform |
in light of the man having no hands of his own not impossible dream tho. |
| 04:36 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-02-28 22:21:08 asciilifeform: mats: asciilifeform's guess is that he's hobbled by traitorous ministers who already reserved villas in miami. is the only half-plausible explanation for over9000 'whys' |
| 04:37 |
* |
signpost falls into a well of 2016 threads. |
| 04:41 |
signpost |
verisimilitude: looks like namecheap's CTO is from ukr. |
| 04:42 |
signpost |
probably one of these populist uprisings inside a tech company like keep happening (see also: joe rogan and spotify) |
| 04:42 |
asciilifeform |
hm thought whole thing was an ukr co? |
| 04:42 |
signpost |
apparently "based in phoenix", so probably outsources all the real work to ukraine. |
| 04:43 |
asciilifeform |
not uncommon. cheaper fwiw than india |
| 04:43 |
signpost |
pretty sure a contractor we hired one time was based in ukr, great guy, did good work. |
| 04:44 |
signpost |
needed some windows crapware built and nobody on team wanted to. |
| 04:44 |
* |
asciilifeform served time in a usg chemical wea^H^H^Hdefense lab, where ~100% of organic synthesis outsourced to ukrs |
| 04:46 |
asciilifeform |
as in neighbouring shitholes, over9000 folx there with 'classical' (i.e. su-era) education, entirely 1st rate when can find foreign bidder |
| 04:58 |
signpost |
afaik this is how approx 100% of american science is being done, either by importing the meat, or ^ |
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| 04:59 |
verisimilitude |
It's certainly convenient when someone else's society falls. |
| 05:00 |
verisimilitude |
Fortunately, the quality of US education means we won't be predated on in the same way. |
| 05:03 |
signpost |
the accidental benefits of geography suggest we'll probably just sit here and rot without much attention paid, if australia is any indication. |
| 05:04 |
signpost |
as long as biden and co don't crap their pants into a nuclear lobbing contest, and even then I buy asciilifeform's view that this'd probably be a few exchanges upon launch sites, given how careful russia's been so far with ukraine. though things can change. |
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| 05:05 |
signpost |
doesn't appear to me they're laying waste to the place, so much as blasting imported weaponry. |
| 05:05 |
* |
signpost bbl |
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~ 5 hours ~ |
| 10:05 |
crtdaydreams |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVkTmnJkAN8 |
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~ 2 hours 26 minutes ~ |
| 12:32 |
jonsykkel |
xaxis=hours http://zzz.st/up/KvH42sag/20220301_133329.png |
| 12:32 |
jonsykkel |
see if you can spot where installed 870evo |
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~ 1 hours 31 minutes ~ |
| 14:03 |
asciilifeform |
jonsykkel: lolyes |
| 14:09 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-02-28#1081553 << for decades nao |
| 14:09 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-02-28 23:58:38 signpost: afaik this is how approx 100% of american science is being done, either by importing the meat, or ^ |
| 14:13 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-03-01#1081557 << fwiw 2020 'putin doctrine'(tm)(r) promises 'no 2nd 1941' i.e. immediate glassing of enemy 'centers of decision making' (where these are -- mystery) |
| 14:13 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-03-01 00:04:17 signpost: as long as biden and co don't crap their pants into a nuclear lobbing contest, and even then I buy asciilifeform's view that this'd probably be a few exchanges upon launch sites, given how careful russia's been so far with ukraine. though things can change. |
| 14:15 |
asciilifeform |
$ticker btc usd |
| 14:15 |
busybot |
Current BTC price in USD: $44606.5 |
| 14:15 |
asciilifeform |
!w poll |
| 14:15 |
watchglass |
Polling 14 nodes... |
| 14:15 |
watchglass |
71.191.220.241:8333 : (pool-71-191-220-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.095s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=725405 (Operator: asciilifeform) |
| 14:15 |
watchglass |
54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.112s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=725405 |
| 14:15 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.081s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=725405 |
| 14:15 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.141s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=725405 |
| 14:15 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.143s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=725405 |
| 14:15 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.144s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=725405 (Operator: whaack) |
| 14:15 |
watchglass |
208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.146s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=725405 |
| 14:15 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.282s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=725405 (Operator: asciilifeform) |
| 14:15 |
watchglass |
54.38.94.63:8333 : (ns3140226.ip-54-38-94.eu) Alive: (0.263s) V=88888 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.8.88.88/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=725405 |
| 14:15 |
watchglass |
94.176.238.102:8333 : (2ppf.s.time4vps.cloud) Alive: (0.253s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=725080 |
| 14:15 |
watchglass |
82.79.58.192:8333 : (static-82-79-58-192.rdsnet.ro) Alive: (0.320s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=725405 |
| 14:15 |
watchglass |
103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.650s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=725405 |
| 14:17 |
watchglass |
75.106.222.93:8333 : Alive: (0.692s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=725405 |
| 14:17 |
watchglass |
143.202.160.10:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.) |
| 14:18 |
PeterL |
I have had three different co-workers at three different places, me: "where did you come from?" them: "USSR" "oh, which part?" "Ukraine" |
| 14:20 |
asciilifeform |
PeterL: typical |
| 14:20 |
PeterL |
technically, one of them emigrated after the change, ~2000, but he seemed to think of himself as a Russian |
| 14:21 |
asciilifeform |
PeterL: interestingly, asciilifeform met quite a few 'proud ukrs' who in fact from same town and dun speak a word of ukr. i.e. consciously reich-aligned folx |
| 14:22 |
asciilifeform |
there are afaik 2 basic types of 'proud ukr' -- the kind who actually from west ukristan, conquered in '40 but never properly absorbed into su; and the other kind, 'we want a ru altcoin w/ hookers, blackjack, and eu passports' |
| 14:23 |
PeterL |
Is Ukrainian very different from Russian, I thought it was the same with a funny accent? |
| 14:23 |
asciilifeform |
PeterL: has approx. same relation to ru as 'ebonics' to bbc english |
| 14:24 |
asciilifeform |
comes in a spectrum, where, the further west you go, the less intelligible and moar compat. with pl |
| 14:25 |
PeterL |
you think Putin will offer to withdraw in exchange for the eastern part of Ukr? Would the ukrs take such an offer? |
| 14:27 |
asciilifeform |
PeterL: the alleged plan ( orlov's engl. text of subj ) |
| 14:33 |
asciilifeform |
PeterL: the ukr plan, meanwhile, seems to be 'turn into an iraq', invited foreign mercenaries, 'soldiers of fortune', etc. in unlimited #s, mainly to shoot at folx trying to flee cities ('ohnoez, our human shields deserting?') |
| 14:37 |
asciilifeform |
... the show, naturally, aint about ukristan per se (economically somewhere b/w/ the congo and zimbabwe) but other things entirely, loong in the worx. |
| 14:37 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-02-28 22:14:11 mats: bit stale, but the theft of ru central bank money |
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~ 54 minutes ~ |
| 15:31 |
billymg |
"INFO:root:Waiting 45 seconds for new block. 0 blocks behind trb tip." << fully synced. 11.5 days on fx-8350 and sata ssd |
| 15:33 |
asciilifeform |
billymg: this was whaack's proggy ? |
| 15:34 |
billymg |
asciilifeform: yep |
| 15:34 |
asciilifeform |
neato |
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~ 1 hours 6 minutes ~ |
| 16:41 |
shinohai |
From the front page of HN this morning https://docs.taler.net/ |
| 16:41 |
shinohai |
>taxable |
| 16:46 |
asciilifeform |
shinohai: ancient lul |
| 16:46 |
dulapbot |
(trilema) 2016-08-04 a111: Logged on 2016-06-05 17:05 asciilifeform: 'We are building an anonymous, taxable payment system using modern cryptography. Customers will use traditional money transfers to send money to a digital Exchange and in return receive (anonymized) digital cash. Customers can use this digital cash to anonymously pay Merchants. Merchants can redeem the digital cash for traditional money at the digital Exchange. As Merchants are not |
| 16:47 |
shinohai |
bwahahahahaha |
| 16:49 |
asciilifeform |
shinohai: the sheer cheek + intractable idjicy, reminiscent of (remember it?) the post-devourment 'napster' where users were asked to pay reich per dload |
| 16:51 |
shinohai |
I guess I should expect no less from the FSF camp. |
| 16:54 |
billymg |
for some reason the HN crowd loves this stuff, "wow, a complex new scheme to keep the same chains intact" |
| 16:56 |
shinohai |
billymg: als involves bootlicking, which is the #1 sport there. |
| 16:56 |
asciilifeform |
billymg: that www is a reich organ, with errything this entails |
| 16:56 |
asciilifeform |
billymg: e.g. currently all comments against 'proud ukrs' zapped in ~realtime |
| 16:56 |
billymg |
yeah, easy to tell from which comments get flagged or downvoted to oblivion |
| 16:57 |
billymg |
HN and reddit are two heathen pits i stopped visiting completely |
| 16:57 |
* |
asciilifeform occasionally reads when linked here; not otherwise |
| 17:09 |
verisimilitude |
My favourite Reddit quote is ``I was raped by my wife's boyfriend.''; it's perfect. |
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| 17:17 |
shinohai |
But did he get pregnant ? |
| 17:18 |
verisimilitude |
That's a good response; no. |
| 17:31 |
asciilifeform |
lol |
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~ 1 hours 47 minutes ~ |
| 19:19 |
mats |
itll be interdasting what financial contagion happens now |
| 19:20 |
mats |
super liquidity drain from sanctions on the 11th largest economy, rising interest rates |
| 19:23 |
verisimilitude |
None of these financial games really mean anything. |
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| 19:24 |
verisimilitude |
It may as well be magic meant for entertainment. |
| 19:24 |
mats |
meaningless to people with no money or resources |
| 19:26 |
asciilifeform |
aint no such people ( even corpse in cemetery taking up coupla m^2, that someone might want ) |
| 19:26 |
asciilifeform |
the folx w/ 'nothing' in fact primo target for lizards' drive to show what 'less than nothing' loox like |
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~ 18 minutes ~ |
| 19:45 |
verisimilitude |
I think that graveyards shouldn't exist. They waste land. |
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| 19:47 |
PeterL |
ever diven across the country? there is plenty of land to waste, when we run out then we can revisit the use of graveyards |
| 19:48 |
verisimilitude |
I just dislike them on principle. |
| 19:48 |
verisimilitude |
I agree there's plenty of other waste. |
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~ 2 hours 49 minutes ~ |
| 22:37 |
signpost |
verisimilitude: and you wonder why I call you a solipsist. |
| 22:38 |
signpost |
the financial games mean your supply chains fail, sooner or later. then what, reality will bend to your will? |
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| 22:39 |
signpost |
mats: have to credit your pointing out that btc price responds to the monetary flow over the network, not inflation directly. |
| 22:39 |
signpost |
15% in a day says you're right about that. |
| 22:40 |
signpost |
if one thinks fiat is failing generally, can be both, of course. |
| 22:40 |
signpost |
though the cynic in me can believe there'll be flight into USD enough to hold the thing up. |
| 22:40 |
signpost |
from say euro, lira, whatever |
| 22:44 |
PeterL |
Gazprom dropping like a rock, anybody want to guess best time to grab that knife? |
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| 22:45 |
signpost |
2035. |
| 22:46 |
PeterL |
get rich quick scheme by Putin: short gazprom, start war, profit! |
| 22:47 |
signpost |
when you're the king you can only get poorer by doing that. |
| 22:47 |
signpost |
having a functioning gazprom is his wealth. |
| 22:48 |
PeterL |
can't you tell it was sarcasm by the exclamation point?! |
| 22:50 |
signpost |
just replying to what I read, my dude |
| 22:51 |
signpost |
I figure there are several parties that think they're going to profit from this situation. |
| 22:52 |
PeterL |
lol, actually you make a good point. but certainly there could have been underlings who had inklings of what would happen that could have made a bundle with a short |
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| 22:54 |
signpost |
probably did, and checked out to london, miami, wherever |
| 22:56 |
signpost |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-02-28#1081506 |
| 22:56 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-02-28 22:21:08 asciilifeform: mats: asciilifeform's guess is that he's hobbled by traitorous ministers who already reserved villas in miami. is the only half-plausible explanation for over9000 'whys' |
| 23:11 |
mats |
i think we're long past any waterfalls, any pinched money going to btc will be to public and private treasuries |
| 23:11 |
mats |
can't hold back the tide, migjt as well build up a pile for the storms of the future |
| 23:13 |
signpost |
might be talking past each other. I'm not referencing buterin's waterfall. |
| 23:14 |
signpost |
talking about the capital flight out of russia and ukraine. |
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| 23:14 |
mats |
i know, went upthread |
| 23:14 |
signpost |
ah |
| 23:14 |
mats |
like the next time usg decides to freeze a sovereigns central bank balance |
| 23:15 |
mats |
still amazed they did it |
| 23:15 |
signpost |
I think you're right that they just killed global USD. |
| 23:15 |
signpost |
"holy shit, they'll do it to white people?!" |
| 23:17 |
signpost |
only thing I can see on the other side of that argument is even worse fiat crises elsewhere propping it up. |
| 23:17 |
mats |
just could not resist weaponising the dollar, having pushed that button so many other times for muslims |
| 23:21 |
signpost |
taking a cynical view, this takes a chunk of USD out of circulation entirely. can't flow back home. |
| 23:21 |
signpost |
not sure enough to matter. |
| 23:22 |
signpost |
perhaps they hope china will hit taiwan next, so they can freeze their holdings. |
| 23:23 |
mats |
i honestly don't believe china will have to invade to retake taiwan |
| 23:24 |
signpost |
just seems timely that they announced ultimate bromance right before russia's move. |
| 23:24 |
signpost |
but what is the alternative? |
| 23:24 |
signpost |
blockade? |
| 23:24 |
mats |
too costly, they might as well drop a nuke than spend any lives |
| 23:24 |
mats |
tsmc isnt viable if theres any shooting |
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| 23:25 |
mats |
taiwan will submit when the time comes |
| 23:25 |
signpost |
I'm sure I don't understand how Taiwan figures into domestic Chinese politics. |
| 23:25 |
signpost |
mats: what tells you that? |
| 23:26 |
mats |
taiwanese capital helped build china |
| 23:26 |
mats |
theres no good sign of submission as far as polling goes, its just a political statement |
| 23:26 |
signpost |
so political support for reunification is higher in taiwan than stated in western media? |
| 23:26 |
mats |
oh no |
| 23:27 |
signpost |
certainly doesn't seem like it. |
| 23:28 |
mats |
iirc its at like 4% |
| 23:28 |
signpost |
right, so what tells you they'll submit when the time comes? |
| 23:29 |
mats |
they'll do it for the money, when the dollars dry up from endless mismanagement |
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| 23:29 |
mats |
the brain drain into the mainland and california is enormous already |
| 23:30 |
mats |
easier to learn simplified chinese than english |
| 23:31 |
signpost |
seems like we are exfiltrating tsmc as quickly as we can. |
| 23:32 |
mats |
yeah, new fabs in jp de az |
| 23:32 |
signpost |
https://science.house.gov/americacompetes << yup |
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| 23:33 |
signpost |
https://udumbara.net/tsmc-the-worlds-most-sought-after-company << "TSMC has devised a plan for its Arizona plant to quickly replicate its plants in Taiwan. The move outlines TSMC???s intention to mirror its comprehensive supply chain in Taiwan to the United States due to concerns over Beijing???s potential invasion." |
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| 23:34 |
signpost |
this is perhaps one of a handful of smart strategic moves in recent years. |
| 23:37 |
mats |
shouldve done it ten years ago |
| 23:38 |
signpost |
sure, way late. |
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| 23:56 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-03-01#1081654 << fwiw there's nao a symmetric answer to yest'd mpexing -- 'if you wanna take capital out, will have to do it physically and <10k usd , and ask nicely' |
| 23:56 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-03-01 18:13:50 signpost: talking about the capital flight out of russia and ukraine. |
| 23:56 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-02-28 22:14:11 mats: bit stale, but the theft of ru central bank money |
| 23:58 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-03-01#1081647 << if the ru folx have half a brain, will do the obv. thing and definancialize gazprom et al. |
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| 23:58 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-03-01 17:52:28 PeterL: lol, actually you make a good point. but certainly there could have been underlings who had inklings of what would happen that could have made a bundle with a short |
| 23:58 |
asciilifeform |
i.e. 'you can keep the paper, we'll keep the minerals' |
| 23:59 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-03-01#1081671 << would be surprised if usg hasn't already mined the factories |
| 23:59 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-03-01 18:24:38 mats: tsmc isnt viable if theres any shooting |