Show Idle (>14 d.) Chans


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00:08 nubbins` https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPoqNeR3_UA
00:08 assbot Star Trek TNG Ambient Engine Noise (Idling for 24 hrs) - YouTube
00:08 nubbins` only 16h left
00:12 nubbins` http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/white-house-orders-review-of-police-militarization-programs-1.2745153
00:12 assbot White House orders review of police 'militarization' programs - World - CBC News
00:13 nubbins` A REVIEW WILL SOLVE THIS PROBLEM
00:13 nubbins` "white house orders review of civilian 'militarization' programs"
00:16 mircea_popescu wait wut ?
00:16 mircea_popescu "only da police may militarize BITCH"
00:21 mircea_popescu http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_pkUFRs9vaXA/TDrOfTIDkqI/AAAAAAAAyjI/lZ1kUx6B9kk/s1600/4756763833_ffb7ccc7ba_b.jpg "does this make me look fat ?"
00:21 nubbins` ah, the future
00:22 * asciilifeform saw that in a trilema article, first thought 'plucked peacock'
00:35 mircea_popescu http://i.imgur.com/u4v6XjB.gif
00:39 mircea_popescu !up dxrt
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01:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22700 @ 0.00063493 = 14.4129 BTC [-]
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02:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4437 @ 0.00063544 = 2.8194 BTC [+]
02:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19335 @ 0.00063408 = 12.2599 BTC [-] {3}
02:21 mircea_popescu !up knotwork
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02:38 X-Rob mircea_popescu: aaand we're back
02:38 X-Rob that was unpleasant
02:39 X-Rob from 12:02:26 PM to 4:39pm
02:39 X-Rob 5 hours.
02:45 RagnarDanneskjol X-Rob - what platform do you use for the pool?
02:46 X-Rob RagnarDanneskjol: That's 6 avalon3 blades
02:47 RagnarDanneskjol sorry, I thought you ran the pool as well - I meant pool software
02:53 BingoBoingo X-Rob: mircea_popescu: Power issues. Will be off for possibly a couple more hours. Will pro-rata a discount at current estimated << I thought I had power issues today
02:54 mircea_popescu %p
02:56 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo so how long was it unmining today ?
02:58 BingoBoingo I have no idea yet. Just coming back online myself.
02:59 mircea_popescu aite lemme know.
02:59 BingoBoingo And coinminer's page seems down
03:02 BingoBoingo ~6 hours and 50 minutes ago was the last mined block for our pool
03:06 mircea_popescu aite ima go dance in the rain. later.
03:09 X-Rob OMFG this pool is FUCKING TERRIBLE
03:11 BingoBoingo Well, you still plan on throwing us a less terrible p2pool? When the digging is done?
03:13 RagnarDanneskjol I'm working on sourcing you guys a few alternate pool options
03:13 RagnarDanneskjol BingoBoingo - are you sure p2pool is the preferred platform?
03:14 BingoBoingo RagnarDanneskjol: The transparency it affords is exceedingly desirable.
03:14 RagnarDanneskjol got it
03:16 X-Rob BingoBoingo: I'm going to set one up shortly.
03:16 X-Rob shortly as in 'in a few hours'
03:25 BingoBoingo K
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03:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8650 @ 0.00063544 = 5.4966 BTC [+]
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04:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33350 @ 0.00063296 = 21.1092 BTC [-] {4}
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04:44 RagnarDanneskjol https://github.com/tensorjack/coinbridge
04:44 assbot tensorjack/coinbridge GitHub
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05:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20800 @ 0.0006315 = 13.1352 BTC [-] {2}
05:30 punkman god morgen
05:31 RagnarDanneskjol howdy
05:34 RagnarDanneskjol I think I got China to seriously consider the circular multilat barter platform you recommended. many thanx for that
05:47 punkman RagnarDanneskjol: cool, nobody needs another ripple clone
05:47 RagnarDanneskjol fuken A
05:48 punkman gonna attempt to clean up some chinese php now, god help me
05:49 RagnarDanneskjol oh my
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06:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28355 @ 0.00063546 = 18.0185 BTC [+] {2}
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06:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17836 @ 0.00063233 = 11.2782 BTC [-] {2}
06:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.2885 = 0.577 BTC [+] {2}
06:59 jurov http://motherboard.vice.com/read/how-to-steal-an-encryption-key-by-simply-touching-a-laptop
06:59 assbot How to Steal an Encryption Key by Simply Touching a Laptop | Motherboard
07:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6964 @ 0.00063113 = 4.3952 BTC [-]
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07:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31400 @ 0.00063251 = 19.8608 BTC [+] {2}
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07:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20150 @ 0.00063094 = 12.7134 BTC [-] {2}
07:58 Vexual is that an oscilloscope in your pocket?
08:04 Vexual ./ink
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08:39 RagnarDanneskjol does anyone know if github reflects the latest atc ver? https://github.com/therealaltcoin/altcoin
08:39 assbot therealaltcoin/altcoin GitHub
08:39 Vexual yep, 1.0
08:40 RagnarDanneskjol thank
08:45 Vexual if memory serves it's cloned from 8.3 or some such
08:45 Vexual thank pankak
08:48 RagnarDanneskjol righty oh - I'm workin on a pool/explorer/web wallet for it today. poor coin has been woefully neglected
08:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18200 @ 0.00063585 = 11.5725 BTC [+]
08:48 Vexual cool shit
08:57 Vexual what pool server software do you intend to use
08:58 RagnarDanneskjol going to try multiple options - prolly mpos cuz p2pool sux hairy balls
08:58 RagnarDanneskjol the worst. I hate it
09:00 Vexual nod
09:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 119 @ 0.00615 = 0.7319 BTC [-]
09:03 Vexual well if you're not busy tommorrow, perhaps you could make another exchange too
09:05 RagnarDanneskjol that is a much taller order & above my paygrade... I know lotsa smart kids that can do it tho
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09:48 Vexual !up RagnarsBitch
09:54 Vexual !s asciilifeform + drunk
09:54 assbot 12 results for 'asciilifeform + drunk' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=asciilifeform+%2B+drunk
09:57 Vexual !s shenzen
09:57 assbot 4 results for 'shenzen' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=shenzen
10:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21723 @ 0.00063057 = 13.6979 BTC [-] {2}
10:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19600 @ 0.00063037 = 12.3553 BTC [-]
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11:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31100 @ 0.00063469 = 19.7389 BTC [+] {3}
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11:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.00063594 = 4.706 BTC [+] {2}
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12:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.58037915 BTC to 14`987 shares, 10545 satoshi per share
12:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 4.84144948 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 421 satoshi per share
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12:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 964 @ 0.00101651 = 0.9799 BTC [-] {27}
12:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22400 @ 0.00062993 = 14.1104 BTC [-] {2}
13:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 570 @ 0.00099998 = 0.57 BTC [-]
13:14 penguirker New blog post: http://explo.yt/post/2014/08/23/First-impressions-from-ownCloud
13:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26000 @ 0.00063684 = 16.5578 BTC [+] {2}
13:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2000 @ 0.00099999 = 2 BTC [+] {2}
13:30 jurov anyone tried owncloud?
13:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00062959 = 6.4848 BTC [-] {2}
13:42 ThickAsThieves How come a lot of scammers are british?
13:43 kakobrekla they are?
13:44 ThickAsThieves in my own life's observation
13:44 ThickAsThieves https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=286634.msg8466137#msg8466137
13:44 assbot [BTC-TC] CIPHERMINE.B1 - a virtual corporate bond with a 22% fixed-fiat APR
13:51 mthreat ThickAsThieves: it's because of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWgWUnZgEyU
13:51 assbot Jaguar - British Villains 'Rendezvous' - YouTube
13:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 900 @ 0.00099994 = 0.8999 BTC [+]
14:04 ThickAsThieves see, i didnt make this up!
14:04 fluffypony jurov yes
14:04 fluffypony I struggled to get it working
14:04 fluffypony and in the end I wasn't very impressed with it
14:05 xmj what does owncloud do?
14:05 fluffypony xmj: it's a cloud backend
14:05 fluffypony so you can run your own Dropbox
14:05 jurov xmj, i wrote about it above
14:05 xmj ah
14:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.289 = 0.578 BTC [+]
14:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6280 @ 0.00083292 = 5.2307 BTC [-] {27}
14:20 X-Rob BingoBoingo: I gave up on that pool. It was getting worse. I'm solo-mining to that address for the moment. I started writing a playbook so I can deploy pools easily, and I'll hopefully finish it after work today.
14:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.289 = 2.312 BTC [+]
14:22 kakobrekla the overhead on that thing...
14:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00063595 = 7.6314 BTC [+]
14:36 mod6 ;;ticker
14:36 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 509.82, Best ask: 511.28, Bid-ask spread: 1.46000, Last trade: 511.29, 24 hour volume: 6908.55900746, 24 hour low: 487.0, 24 hour high: 512.69, 24 hour vwap: 499.523223544
14:37 mod6 %p
14:37 atcbot [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 0.11 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 642.91 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 1.78 TH/s
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15:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33400 @ 0.00063594 = 21.2404 BTC [-]
15:17 BingoBoingo X-Rob: Well, I see we've gotten a few blocks since the switch, so... Improvement
15:18 X-Rob BingoBoingo: yeah. Seems to be mining away happily now. Just that I have no proof-of-mining, apart from random blocks appearing, and I don't like that. So yeah, I'll get onto making a pool later. But it's work-o'clock now.
15:19 BingoBoingo X-Rob: Doesn't sound like the worst thing.
15:25 BingoBoingo !up Duffer1
15:25 BingoBoingo %d
15:25 atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 234620.37 in 1760 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -87.51
15:25 BingoBoingo %t
15:25 atcbot [X-BT] Bid: 170 Ask: 221 Last Price: 170 24h-Vol: 0k High: 170 Low: 170 VWAP: 169
15:32 BingoBoingo ;;ticker
15:32 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 512.14, Best ask: 513.77, Bid-ask spread: 1.63000, Last trade: 513.77, 24 hour volume: 7398.67010189, 24 hour low: 487.0, 24 hour high: 515.95, 24 hour vwap: 500.399075407
15:32 BingoBoingo ^ OMG BTC price is ATC block reward
15:42 mod6 ;;later tell mike_c need help with WoL
15:42 gribble The operation succeeded.
15:44 BingoBoingo Interesting day in -dev it looks like http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-dev/logs/2014/08/24#l1408839491
15:44 assbot BitcoinStats
15:44 BingoBoingo mod6: Any idea if atcbot can get a 30 day VWAP command?
15:48 mod6 i'd be preferable to me if x-bt would provide that in the JSON
15:48 mod6 i don't want to have to calculate anything if possible.
15:49 BingoBoingo Ah
15:49 BingoBoingo Apocalyptic: Can we get a 30 day VWAP?
15:49 kakobrekla !up DiabloD3
15:49 kakobrekla DiabloD3 noctua sucks compared to bequiet.
15:50 kakobrekla way too much mechanical noise.
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16:07 decimation re: handle's rant on the black rioting: http://handleshaus.wordpress.com/2014/08/17/procrustean-rashomon/#comment-4591 << Vladimir has a great comment: "On the other hand, libertarians and conservatives often have some vague intuitive understanding of the real issue, i.e. that the change in policing is just another manifestation of the sad fact that Americans and other Anglos are no longer a free people capable of governing
16:07 assbot Procrustean Rashomon | Handle's Haus
16:07 decimation themselves. However, as in everything else, instead of coming to the ineluctable reactionary conclusions, they try to talk about it in ways that they hope it will get them status points and sympathy from progressives."
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16:25 decimation !up The20YearIRCloud
16:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1462 @ 0.0009974 = 1.4582 BTC [-] {8}
16:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.28899999 = 2.312 BTC [-]
16:45 pete_dushenski https://twitter.com/nntaleb/status/503641069314392065
16:45 assbot If you ask someone where he comes from & he answers "Europe",odds are he is Romanian or Bulgarian.A German wd answer "Germany".Same Fr/I/Sp
16:50 pete_dushenski https://twitter.com/nntaleb/status/503295669919285248
16:50 assbot Someone bemoaned that there were so few women in economics. But there are also very few men in economics.
16:50 pete_dushenski ^or anywhere else for that matter
16:53 pete_dushenski The20YearIRCloud: Eh, gdp between 2nd world and 3rd world is huge, much easier to pay some PMCs and take over a african despot than say kazachstan << reminds me of when elbonia went from a 2nd world country from a 3rd. the only difference being that now they had enough food and were starting to get picky about it.
16:57 pete_dushenski http://imgur.com/uOUKRS4 << "airline food, again?"
16:57 assbot imgur: the simple image sharer
16:58 decimation anti-fragile by taleb has some interesting points. I wonder if he would consider bitcoin "fragile". In one sense, it is fragile because its current implementation relies on fragile computers and somewhat poorly wrought software. In another sense, it is strongly anti-fragile because it benefits from any event that casts doubt on the ability of nation-states to manage their own scrip.
16:58 pete_dushenski youtubetard: yea...Quebec will hopefully demonstrate a peaceful and constructive seccesion << this, i'd like to see
16:58 decimation independent quebec would produce hydropower and baked goods, not much else...
16:59 pete_dushenski decimation: to the extent that bitcoin is short usd, taleb would love it to the extent that he could be bothered to understand it
16:59 pete_dushenski taleb's too distracted by the shenanigans in his homeland
17:00 pete_dushenski independent quebec could produce all the same things they currently do: flour, maple syrup, construction management
17:01 decimation yeah I get his point that old stuff is better, but sometimes a new technology does come along. While he derides electronics, it is clear that man will be making integrated circuits until the end of time (unless a better technology supersedes it)
17:02 decimation in the case of bitcoin, I think he confuses the shoddy nature of modern computers with bitcoin as a technology, which can and will exist independently from today's crap-o-soft
17:02 pete_dushenski xmj: What would make for a better home base in 2015 or 2016: Luxembourg, Monaco or Jersey/Guernsey? << try opatija, croatia. twas good enough for franz joseph i
17:02 decimation the book comes off as a combination of "listen to the wisdom of your elders" and "get off my lawn"
17:03 pete_dushenski decimation: it's almost exactly that, combined with "don't make naive, model-based predictions and bet all your chips on models mapping reality"
17:05 xmj pete_dushenski: you missed the part where i was asking for germanic/anglosaxon hemisphere
17:06 xmj pete_dushenski: i'm currently considering the area of Eindhoven NL
17:06 pete_dushenski xmj that's a hemisphere nao?
17:06 xmj pete_dushenski: always been9~
17:06 pete_dushenski opatija is due south of berlin
17:06 xmj commonwealth + central europe. House Windsor is germanic origin, eh
17:06 pete_dushenski hemisphere being drawn longitudinally…
17:07 xmj eh whatever
17:07 pete_dushenski ok, so berlin then
17:07 xmj ???
17:07 decimation umm, croatia is a few hour drive to germany right?
17:07 xmj berlin is not in the space of permissible answers as defined in the question.
17:08 Apocalyptic <BingoBoingo> [21:49:51] Apocalyptic: Can we get a 30 day VWAP? // possibly
17:08 xmj decimation: I'm currently in Ljubljana, it's not that much of a stretch to go there the next couple of days
17:09 jurov have you met kako?
17:10 BingoBoingo Apocalyptic: Such a thing would probably one of the most usefull things the environment around ATC could have, since... This thing trades slow
17:10 Apocalyptic indeed
17:10 xmj who is that and why would i want to?
17:13 jurov kako is kakobrekla
17:14 jurov and he's good fellow to meet in person
17:14 jurov lives somewhere there
17:17 jurov ;;gettrust xmj kakobrekla
17:17 gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla. Trust relationship from user xmj to user kakobrekla: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 3 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=xmj&dest=kakobrekla | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=kakobrekla | Rated since: Fri May 13 18:50:53 2011
17:17 BingoBoingo bacon and eggs, even sausages most of the time would be appropriate gifts to bear xmj
17:18 xmj somewhere where?
17:18 jurov in slovenia
17:18 xmj near opatija?
17:18 xmj BingoBoingo: and why would i want to bring a stranger gifts?
17:18 xmj especially those items i'd just eat myself.
17:18 * xmj laughs
17:19 BingoBoingo http://bitcoin-assets.com << See the section titled how to stay
17:19 assbot #bitcoin-assets | You cannot stop the clouds by the building of a ship.
17:19 jurov idk, you met strangers in estonia or such too?
17:20 xmj sure.
17:20 jurov just a thought
17:20 xmj i didn't bring them unwarranted gifts
17:20 xmj kakobrekla: hi
17:20 BingoBoingo ;;topic
17:20 gribble http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com || http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com
17:20 xmj kakobrekla: jurov things it's necessary we meet. i'm in ljubljana for an indefinite amount of time, how about beer if you're in town?
17:21 xmj kakobrekla: thinks*
17:21 BingoBoingo It isn't unwarranted. It's on the first link in the topic
17:22 xmj BingoBoingo: I don't get it?
17:22 BingoBoingo xmj: Well someone founded the channel and created text for the page...
17:22 jurov i don't think kako meant literal bacon and sausages
17:23 jurov but then, it implies he's bi?
17:23 * jurov ponders
17:23 xmj jurov: when at home I eat eggs and bacon all day every day
17:25 jurov enjoy. me too
17:25 jurov all kinds of sausages.
17:25 xmj ahahah
17:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 222 @ 0.00400002 = 0.888 BTC [-] {4}
17:29 jurov in-person connections are antifragile
17:30 kakobrekla ;;google monthy python bacon eggs spam
17:30 gribble Monty Python - Spam - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE>; Spam (Monty Python) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam_(Monty_Python)>; The Monty Python Spam Skit! - Detritus.org: <http://www.detritus.org/spam/skit.html>
17:30 kakobrekla fyi
17:31 kakobrekla hi xmj
17:31 kakobrekla any approximate timeframe for how long you staying?
17:32 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: punkman: pete_dushenski: sounds like a death wish << i'd definitely mow him down. fucking biking hipsters. << real hipsters ride horses.
17:32 kakobrekla my drivers license expired recently, havent gone through the bureaucracy of extending it yet so ima bit grounded - do you have a car here or how do you get around
17:33 jurov ah they said nothing about sausages
17:33 xmj kakobrekla: undefined
17:33 xmj kakobrekla: no car, i'll stay until i get bored
17:34 xmj kakobrekla: where are you based?
17:34 asciilifeform he confuses the shoddy nature of modern computers with bitcoin as a technology, which can and will exist independently from today's crap-o-soft << this.
17:35 penguirker New blog post: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/08/24/pretense-of-bitcoin-regulation-stalls-again-this-week/
17:39 asciilifeform real hipsters ride horses << nah. they ride... grinding wheels. e.g., http://www.robotee.com/image/NEWS/31020_SoloWheel_timthumb.jpg
17:40 * asciilifeform had a dream many years ago that his grandfather took an ancient grinding wheel from workshop, turned it upside-down, and taught him to ride it. and now people actually do something quite like this.
17:41 assbot Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3ADCF93.txt )
17:41 BingoBoingo !b 2
17:43 jurov https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3tU_SYSfOU roomba cat came to mind
17:43 assbot Shark Cat on Roomba Chasing Duck - Original HD TWT Version - YouTube
17:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69700 @ 0.00063384 = 44.1786 BTC [-] {5}
17:48 pete_dushenski asciilifeform: lol i saw one of those around town recently. definitely not hipster material
17:48 pete_dushenski hipster at least desire the company of others, unlike anyone who uses grinding wheels
17:56 asciilifeform doesn't have to be alone - what's to stop somebody from riding grinding wheels in regiment ?
18:00 jurov grinding wheel gang
18:01 pete_dushenski asciilifeform: well, cost.
18:01 pete_dushenski they're $2k a piece
18:01 pete_dushenski a bicycle is $100
18:02 pete_dushenski hipsters tend to be pretty broke, spending all disposable income on max iphone plans
18:02 pete_dushenski not that horses are cheap, but at least the ride in teams properly
18:02 pete_dushenski s/the/they
18:03 pete_dushenski http://www.amazon.com/Inventist-SW1-Solowheel-by/dp/B007Q3FZYK
18:03 assbot Amazon.com : Solowheel by Inventist : Childrens Ride Ons : Sports & Outdoors
18:08 assbot ninjashogun +v failed; L1: 0, L2: -3
18:09 kakobrekla !up ninjashogun
18:10 kakobrekla usg nsa wifi?
18:12 kakobrekla ;;later tell mircea_popescu you can sort by weight now.
18:12 gribble The operation succeeded.
18:20 ninjashogun thanks kakobrekla.
18:28 ninjashogun laters*
18:28 pete_dushenski *BingoBoingo likes ben_vulpes lack of serious competition << likewise!
18:32 xmj huh.
18:34 pete_dushenski BingoBoingo: I mean if the situation for the blacks improved... would there be a Ferguson? << read the lulziest headline on a national newspaper yesterday "blacks still aren't equal to whites. some think obama should do more."
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19:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44048 @ 0.00063299 = 27.8819 BTC [-]
19:13 danielpbarron ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://danielpbarron.com/DerpReport/ << updated
19:13 assbot Derp Report
19:13 gribble The operation succeeded.
19:14 abathingape http://lists.tlug.jp/ML/1408/msg00061.html
19:14 assbot TLUG Mailing List
19:14 abathingape "...due to work being much more busy than expected (especially in the last 3 years)."
19:20 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: jewland too. it's just not in the cards for that continent, having civilised countries there. << myeah. move jews and boers to south america already.
19:23 pete_dushenski https://twitter.com/sierraclub/status/503618001523204096 << sucks to be californian
19:23 assbot Stunning photo of CA's drought from /NASA & /KTVU - this is a pic of Folsom Lake: http://t.co/VU5iRS11bo
19:25 kakobrekla well why did they leave the gates open!
19:26 BingoBoingo danielpbarron: re:http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=20197180&postcount=28 << I've actually bought a drink with Euros at an American bar
19:27 danielpbarron lol, where?
19:27 pete_dushenski danielpbarron on the dams!
19:28 BingoBoingo danielpbarron: Just some mexican bar
19:28 pete_dushenski http://online.wsj.com/articles/dining-from-trash-to-table-in-brooklyn-1408756306 << derelicte my balls
19:28 assbot Dining From Trash to Table in Brooklyn - WSJ
19:28 BingoBoingo *themed
19:31 BingoBoingo http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/24/justin-cosma-ferguson-police_n_5705409.html?utm_hp_ref=tw
19:31 assbot Ferguson Police Officer Justin Cosma Hog-Tied And Injured A Young Child, Lawsuit Alleges
19:32 mircea_popescu hi all, and welcome to mp's string of sunday pronnouncements!
19:32 mircea_popescu pronouncement #1 : and he said unto them lo! that bitbet now allows searching by weight of bets!
19:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00062894 = 6.7926 BTC [-]
19:34 mircea_popescu pronouncement #b : and then he spake thus : ye knoweth the evil people of the world know no rest, for the very fire of hell scorches their gullets on the inside so they may never sit quietly in a room. and therefore it will come to pass that they will put pressure on freenode, starting for instance last thursday.
19:35 mircea_popescu knoweth ye, that while it is unlikely for freenode to buckle, more than anything because its brains are so scattered it's unlikely to manage to gather enough management to do anything, nevertheless this isn't a reason to not build parachute
19:36 mircea_popescu and therefore! whosoever knoweth well the workings of the irc demon and how to set it up let me know, for we shall have a plan b, and our plan b shall take over the earth!
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19:36 BingoBoingo !b 3
19:36 mircea_popescu so end the glorious sunday pronouncements, join us next sunday for nude frolicking in the grass and fire spitting.
19:39 ThickAsThieves praised be
19:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.00062894 = 2.4843 BTC [-]
19:39 mircea_popescu someone should start a church of confusing form with function.
19:39 mircea_popescu that's an easy sell if there ever was one.
19:39 hanbot nice weight sortage
19:39 ThickAsThieves USA
19:40 mircea_popescu i guess the catholics also did pretty well on the score.
19:45 BingoBoingo ;;ticker
19:45 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 506.85, Best ask: 507.54, Bid-ask spread: 0.69000, Last trade: 507.86, 24 hour volume: 5778.20961167, 24 hour low: 495.02, 24 hour high: 515.95, 24 hour vwap: 504.13191356
19:46 BingoBoingo ;;parachute
19:46 gribble Error: "parachute" is not a valid command.
19:46 BingoBoingo !parachute
19:46 BingoBoingo %parachute
19:50 asciilifeform aha parachute!
19:50 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: care to air out the dirt? why let the bastards suffer quietly ?
19:53 mircea_popescu asciilifeform you know there's this pesky rule of nature that the more one speaks the less one knows.
19:53 mircea_popescu this thing seems to hold true in the most perverse and unexpected of applications.
19:53 asciilifeform aha sure
19:53 asciilifeform but before i can offer a potential parachute - need to know threat model.
19:53 asciilifeform gpg-gram if you like.
19:54 mircea_popescu that's immaterial. the threat defense, however, will be an array of geographically distributed servers which someone will have to shepherd the ircd on.
19:54 mircea_popescu you know, just like freenode, except with a helluva lot more moneyz.
19:55 mircea_popescu aand problem solved.
19:55 mircea_popescu ty for participating everyone :)
19:56 * asciilifeform would still like to know who, approximately, is likely to bring approximately what kind of siege weapon to his gates before dusting off the box kept for this purpose.
19:56 mircea_popescu asciilifeform it's all social engineering. the nsa does not have any technical capbility worth the mention.
19:57 * asciilifeform pictured 'complaint' wankers, rather than nsa
19:57 mircea_popescu on one hand because it is actually very limited on th edirect, on the other hand because it is very affraid to use even the little it has lest a hb rehash.
20:01 asciilifeform lamers.
20:02 mircea_popescu asciilifeform exactly. the fiat economy is predicated on the theory that value may be constructed out of a trillion promises that each on and of itself is worthless
20:03 mircea_popescu and the fiat state is predicated on the theory that productive work may be extracted out of assemblages of a trillion shitheads that by and of themselves are wholly incapable.
20:03 mircea_popescu even at the risk of driving down legitimate promises and capable people, the theory goes, this is still a worthwhile endeavour.
20:03 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ae/Ilia_Efimovich_Repin_(1844-1930)_-_Volga_Boatmen_(1870-1873).jpg
20:04 mircea_popescu o look at that! buskers!
20:04 asciilifeform where i live, a 'busker' is a fellow playing, e.g., accordion on a steet, begging for pennies
20:04 mircea_popescu same dress n'est pass ? same look ?
20:04 mircea_popescu same cool.
20:04 asciilifeform approximately.
20:05 asciilifeform the folks pictured are бурлаки. (yes, we had a separate name for this occupation.)
20:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7152 @ 0.00063257 = 4.5241 BTC [+]
20:06 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: at any rate, what kind of machine is necessary, for what kind of load? just #b-a ?
20:07 mircea_popescu asciilifeform it's not a matter of the machines per se tho.
20:07 mircea_popescu i mean not that more will hurt, when-and-if.
20:07 cazalla mircea_popescu, i have no report for today, been in bed best part of a week
20:07 mircea_popescu cazalla new gf ?
20:08 cazalla hardly, depressed more like it
20:08 asciilifeform it's not a matter of the machines per se << of what, then ?
20:09 mircea_popescu the guy to run the software package.
20:09 mircea_popescu cazalla care to share with the group ?
20:13 cazalla mircea_popescu, this pretty much http://pastebin.com/9sftKGAJ doctors say tldr
20:13 assbot Head Area Tingling - on top of head, face, back of head, neck, shoulders, var - Pastebin.com
20:14 mircea_popescu pinched nerve.
20:14 mircea_popescu started with the tri, got the whole stack by now.
20:15 cazalla i've had mri of neck, brain, cardiac ct, halter monitor, xrays, blood work, etc etc
20:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 905 @ 0.00063595 = 0.5755 BTC [+]
20:16 mircea_popescu dja work out ?
20:16 cazalla i use to
20:17 cazalla so that's why i sometimes stay in bed for a week or 2 and just sleep the depression off
20:17 mircea_popescu go work out. none of that high performance gym shit tho, this isn't to perform, this is to relax. ride a horse. swim. something sane.
20:18 mircea_popescu fuck, for that matter, quite legitimate.
20:18 * asciilifeform while reading about modern irc daemonology, learned that founder of freenode died of having-problems in '06.
20:19 cazalla mircea_popescu, spring is due here so i'm going to do laps once it warms up a little
20:19 asciilifeform (and he was publicly smeared in various ways, e.g. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/01/29/buy_a_piece_of_net)
20:19 assbot 404: Page not found | The Register
20:19 mircea_popescu asciilifeform pretty much yes.
20:20 mircea_popescu cazalla you're not supposed to sit, but that's a splendid idea : pole dancing.
20:21 pete_dushenski http://contravex.com/2014/08/24/for-states-small-is-beautiful/
20:21 assbot For States, Small Is Beautiful | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski
20:21 pete_dushenski off to a celebration dinner, just leaving this year.
20:21 pete_dushenski night all!
20:21 mircea_popescu asciilifeform to be perfectly fair, the guy wasn't keeping his finances in the best of orders (according to you know, the criteria required so you don't get called "a cult leader" by teh cult leadership). nevertheless, nothing nearly as bad as what the childfucker jimbo wales did in his day
20:21 pete_dushenski s/year/here omfg
20:21 mircea_popescu ironically, the very guy the entire clampdown on the internets exist to protect the internets for
20:22 mircea_popescu gets to run a piece of shit "resource" that everyone pushes as if it were useful.
20:22 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-07-2014#749841
20:22 assbot Logged on 09-07-2014 00:04:59; asciilifeform: pierce << ideal example of the animal described on one of mircea_popescu's essays - he could be packed into prison for life, any time, based on what's in his file. so he does as instructed.
20:23 mircea_popescu obviously. but the convenience does not resolve the other angle. it's a ruinous association.
20:23 asciilifeform example: pediwik page for nsa 'type a' - gone.
20:23 asciilifeform perma-deleted.
20:24 mircea_popescu "why do you hang out with these bums ?" "because they're the only people that call me a beauty queen", said the ambitious teenaged slut.
20:24 mircea_popescu "well honey, that doesn't make them any less bums"
20:24 mircea_popescu but yes, it's been for many decades now the established mo of the great "nation" of the united states : to grow an inch, cut an inch off the measuring tape.
20:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 19 @ 0.29447997 = 5.5951 BTC [+] {6}
20:25 cazalla mircea_popescu, i'm still interested in forum posting, didn't want you to think i was blowing it off even though that's what i've done this week, i'll bbl, week of logs to catch up on
20:25 mircea_popescu cazalla no biggy. this is the fungible sort of work, it'll wait.
20:27 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: re: the use of pliable folks: consider, what was vyacheslav molotov's main job qualification ?
20:27 asciilifeform (answer: his wife. in gulag.)
20:27 mircea_popescu but he still sucked.
20:27 mircea_popescu you know ? putting some idiot's wife in the gulag doesn't make him suddenly smart.
20:27 asciilifeform sure.
20:28 asciilifeform 'smart' wasn't the top objective, though.
20:28 asciilifeform pederasty doesn't make herr wales smarter, either.
20:28 asciilifeform or brock pierce
20:28 mircea_popescu think of it : two major powers, with very close ideologies, the absolute leader of one in love with the absolute leader of the other, managed to go to war!
20:28 mircea_popescu who's to blame ? inept ribentropp, inept molotov, chiefly.
20:29 mircea_popescu if they worked together we'd be sitting here speaking german threatening doom to the third reich.
20:29 asciilifeform lol
20:29 mircea_popescu so, what's the gulag got stalin ? a pliable idiot.
20:29 mircea_popescu what's that cost him ? the great patriotic war.
20:29 mircea_popescu millions of country boys had to be assembled in the choir invisible to rectify the mistakes of two inept diplomats.
20:30 * asciilifeform isn't suggesting that the pliable idiot stratagem is a brilliant one that everyone should imitate - just pointing out its age.
20:31 mircea_popescu its age, indeed. two hundred years old and change.
20:31 mircea_popescu i think balzac is the first to describe it. some small sleepy country town somewhere, with two printing licenses
20:31 mircea_popescu the owner of one figuring it's better to keep the other in the hands of its current inept owner than let him lose it.
20:32 mircea_popescu or, if you prefer, de retz has some mentions in his memoirs, to the same principle.
20:32 oglafbot http://oglaf.com/assumptions/
20:33 mircea_popescu when i see that name change i salivate.
20:33 BingoBoingo lol
20:35 mircea_popescu http://oglaf.com/buttocks/ << almond milk i'd go for.
20:35 assbot Perfect buttocks now!
20:36 BingoBoingo Almond milk is about the only way I find almonds palatable, the demon cyanide tasting seeds that they are.
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20:38 BingoBoingo http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1480203246/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=1480203246&linkCode=as2&tag=natdee-20
20:38 assbot Non-Euclidean Geometry for Babies (Math for Babies): Fred Carlson: 9781480203242: Amazon.com: Books
20:38 * asciilifeform misread as 'non-euclidean geometry for babes'
20:39 BingoBoingo "Non-Euclidean Geometry for Babies is intended to introduce babies to the basics of Euclid's Geometry, and supposes that the so-called "Parallel Postulate" might not be true. "
20:39 assbot Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/38587YY.txt )
20:39 BingoBoingo !b 2
20:40 asciilifeform http://oglaf.com/harrow << problems of rectothermodynamicists.
20:40 assbot harrow
20:45 mircea_popescu this isn't such a great thing for babies.
20:53 asciilifeform https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRM7OZktALE << column of captive urks led through donetsk. water truck washes road after them, just like they did in the '44 parade after captured germans.
20:53 assbot - YouTube
20:54 mircea_popescu ;;ud urk
20:54 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=urk | urk. to annoy or bother someone deeply. Gurl numba 1: grrrrrrr i don't like ha. Gurl numba 2: why not? she's nice.... Gurl numba 1: she just urks me..something ...
20:54 asciilifeform ukrs.
20:54 mircea_popescu heh.
20:54 mircea_popescu o right
20:54 mircea_popescu ;;ud ukrs
20:54 gribble Google found nothing.
20:54 mircea_popescu yay.
20:55 mircea_popescu asciilifeform why's the reporter so fucking excited lol
20:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00063423 = 6.5326 BTC [-]
20:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 800 @ 0.00085468 = 0.6837 BTC [-] {4}
20:56 asciilifeform !s ancient ukrs
20:56 assbot 0 results for 'ancient ukrs' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=ancient+ukrs
20:56 asciilifeform damn.
20:59 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-08-2014#801927
20:59 assbot Logged on 20-08-2014 04:00:19; *: asciilifeform prefers viktor pelevin's уркаина - 'urkaine', which metamorphosizes over 1000 years (in one of his tales) to 'urkland' and then 'orcland.'
21:07 mircea_popescu you know words that don't even exist!
21:07 mircea_popescu !up guest3455
21:09 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRM7OZktALE << column of captive urks led through donetsk. water truck washes road after them, just like they did in the '44 parade after captured germans. << I like the flack vest clearly labeled "Press"
21:09 assbot - YouTube
21:10 BingoBoingo !up non2
21:10 BingoBoingo !up non2_
21:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 500 @ 0.00362467 = 1.8123 BTC [-] {12}
21:26 asciilifeform http://xs-sniper.com/blackhat2014/BH2014-Billy-Rios.pdf
21:35 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: actually the ukrs started really calling themselves that in the '90s, when they wrote the hilarious schoolbooks about 'ancient ukrs, they fought rome!'
21:35 mircea_popescu yeah i know. we had a bunch of crypto natl-socialist idiots in romania too.
21:36 asciilifeform now it's SOP among the resistance.
21:36 asciilifeform aha.
21:36 mircea_popescu i think even mentioned.
21:36 asciilifeform we come from the ducks, who come from the trucks.
21:36 asciilifeform yes.
21:36 mircea_popescu they taught the greeks magic and romans to write don;'t you know./
21:41 asciilifeform http://imgur.com/V8M9nsA
21:41 assbot imgur: the simple image sharer
21:41 asciilifeform (from linked document)
21:41 asciilifeform what's missing? plenty
21:42 asciilifeform (what instrument? ion mobility spectrometer, clearly.)
21:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00063686 = 6.1775 BTC [+] {2}
21:47 mircea_popescu asciilifeform why the fuck windows.
21:48 asciilifeform because!
21:59 BingoBoingo !up josevelez
22:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9198 @ 0.00063381 = 5.8298 BTC [-] {2}
22:14 penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/weak-sauce/
22:23 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: who's the fellow screaming at the crowd ?
22:24 mircea_popescu taleb
22:24 asciilifeform aha
22:24 * asciilifeform guessed correctly
22:25 * asciilifeform would love to buy a (yes) bowdlerized compendium of taleb, with all the annoying 'i'm the strongest man alive, grasp my throbbing cock!' crapola snipped out.
22:25 mircea_popescu lol it bothers you ?
22:26 asciilifeform it pattern-matches 'derp' and throws my concentration
22:26 mircea_popescu kinda makes me chuckle privately.
22:26 mircea_popescu guy's what, 60 by now ?
22:26 mircea_popescu what's he going to do if say a bn chicks actually decide to go for it ?
22:27 asciilifeform if i saw a mosquito for the first and only time, i'd probably laugh at it too
22:27 mircea_popescu not like he has an elaborate sorting system in place.
22:27 mircea_popescu he's setting himself up for catastrophic rewind.
22:29 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: lol, you read Kvant ?!?!
22:29 mircea_popescu i had THE COLLECTION.
22:30 mircea_popescu who do you think you're talking to here.
22:30 asciilifeform ahaha
22:30 * asciilifeform has the collection
22:30 mircea_popescu !ip Kieronbm
22:30 mircea_popescu admittedly i couldn't really do the exercises
22:30 mircea_popescu but i enjoyed looking at the pictures.
22:31 * asciilifeform has a blast with bedtime reading of 'квант,' 'химия и жизнь,' 'наука и жизнь', etc. for ages now. who said '4k' tablets had no use.
22:33 asciilifeform phun phact. 'прикладная химия' 1941 (forget which month) was devoted to recipes for... meth.
22:33 mircea_popescu "theoretical physicists calculate the imaginary part of schroedinger function collapses for various items in their room and then convert it all to matrix form to go to sleep"
22:34 asciilifeform (leningrad, during blockade, reportedly churned out 10kg/day.)
22:34 mircea_popescu most serious bunkers include some.
22:34 asciilifeform even today.
22:34 mircea_popescu lol even today., well yes even today, what's changed ?
22:35 asciilifeform 'morals' lol
22:36 mircea_popescu no they haven't lol.
22:37 BingoBoingo Well now there's options like methylphenidate, modafinil, and all sorts of other imposters
22:37 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: military men, afaik, are noted for a love of 'classic' tech
22:38 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: if the soldier can only carry one pill, what modern replacement psychostimulator would suffice ?
22:40 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: The germans had a pill...
22:40 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: 'pervitin' ? that was ordinary 'meth'
22:40 mircea_popescu asciilifeform http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/01/29/buy_a_piece_of_net << this is a great read btw, because look! look how desolate the field was, just ten short years ago,
22:40 assbot Buy a piece of Net nostalgia for $5,000 The Register
22:40 mircea_popescu back when we didn't have money.
22:40 mircea_popescu and i don't mean some money, or even a lot of money.
22:40 mircea_popescu i mean THE money.
22:41 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: I'm thinking of the one that rolled the meth together with an opiate, and maybe a few other things
22:41 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: why would you include an opiate ?
22:42 mircea_popescu asciilifeform because pure amphetamine is undiscriminatory.
22:42 mircea_popescu ever had an itch /
22:42 BingoBoingo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-IX
22:42 assbot D-IX - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
22:42 asciilifeform undiscriminatory ?
22:43 BingoBoingo The itching, and fatigue... injury..
22:43 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> undiscriminatory ? << Hits receptors without much regard for location in the body
22:43 asciilifeform how does an opiate help here?
22:44 mircea_popescu if well chosen the opiate is more selective.
22:45 mircea_popescu at least that's the theory.
22:45 BingoBoingo Including just enough for some analgesia masks side effects of the amphetamine activating all kinds of catecholamine receptors it wasn't intended to
22:45 BingoBoingo Supposedly
22:45 BingoBoingo The recreational term I think is "speedballing"
22:48 asciilifeform 'At first the members of the punishment battalion whistled and sang songs. [But] most of them had collapsed after the first 24 hours.'
22:52 mircea_popescu by the way : http://or.wikipedia.org/wiki/ଓଡ଼ିଆ
22:52 assbot -
22:58 decimation I think methamphetamines are still prescribed for military pilots who need to 'remain alert' for days at a time
22:59 decimation asciilifeform: "it pattern-matches 'derp' and throws my concentration" << yeah I have the same experience.
23:00 mircea_popescu decimation they're self prescribed by doctors working the us meatgrinder for sure.
23:00 mircea_popescu <decimation> asciilifeform: "it pattern-matches 'derp' and throws my concentration" << yeah I have the same experience. << does this happen with my stuff too ?
23:01 ThickAsThieves cazalla, is it fibromyalgia?
23:01 ThickAsThieves my dad has it
23:01 ThickAsThieves sounds like uit
23:02 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: not so much
23:02 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves wasn't that for girls ?
23:02 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: your stuff typically includes sufficient meth to drown out the opium.
23:02 ThickAsThieves it's for people who beat up their bodies and are susceptible to it, i'm guessing
23:03 ThickAsThieves dad has owned a masonry company most of his life
23:03 mircea_popescu http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11974674
23:03 assbot Gender differences in fibromyalgia... [J Gend Specif Med. 2002 Mar-Apr] - PubMed - NCBI
23:03 mircea_popescu no look at that, i was actually right. 10% or so men.
23:03 mircea_popescu looks like genetic on that basis. you gotta be really unlucky as a guy
23:03 ThickAsThieves didnt know that
23:04 ThickAsThieves i never met someone else with uit
23:04 ThickAsThieves though i wouldbnt be surprised if it's in me too
23:04 mircea_popescu asciilifeform cause i was thinking, i prolly do more of it than poor taleb.
23:04 mircea_popescu who, notably, has a lot more grounds than me to be all "fu world y u don't respek!"
23:04 ThickAsThieves i think i heard pot helps with fibro
23:05 ThickAsThieves havent gotten pops to try yet
23:05 ThickAsThieves he's still busy breaking his back
23:05 mircea_popescu wasn't this the poster for medical pot ? it helps fibromyalgia ?
23:05 ThickAsThieves dunno
23:05 asciilifeform perhaps the next pill, 'D-X,' will be a meth and thc combo
23:06 ThickAsThieves i was never a pot activist
23:06 ThickAsThieves though i like it just fine
23:06 asciilifeform are there meth activists ?
23:06 mircea_popescu asciilifeform yes. they scrub things clean.
23:06 mircea_popescu ;;google look at me, busy as a bee
23:06 gribble Meth song - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtLHKtNOcS8>; Meth Song - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxAYHOWxGi8>; Official Meth Theme Song - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ev6hV5ULLcs>
23:06 ThickAsThieves meth had it's own acclaimed tv show, it's doing fine
23:06 decimation mircea_popescu: you have a different writing style. you don't set off the 'derp' alarm, you set off the 'wait, wtf is he on about' alarm, which generally results in an interpretation excercise
23:06 ThickAsThieves its
23:07 asciilifeform surely someone is campaigning to have meth brought back to the masses.
23:07 mircea_popescu decimation so taleb's mistake is that he's being a BANAL asshole ?
23:07 ThickAsThieves there are the guys that think all drugs should be legal
23:07 mircea_popescu tnk
23:07 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves there are guys that thing all ages should be legal.
23:07 mircea_popescu no shortage of guys.
23:08 asciilifeform busy as a bee << funny that they show an idiot sow scrubbing, and not, e.g, paul erdos crapping out theorems
23:08 mircea_popescu asciilifeform it's valid. a) erdos doesn't get his guidance from youtube ; b) most people taking it will scrub.
23:09 decimation mircea_popescu: yeah there's banality and there's also constant generalization. I realize he's trying to write generally, but it comes close to old-man ranting
23:09 mircea_popescu it's part of that undiscrimination mentioned earlier. it seems to particularly empower any ocd streak you may have.
23:09 mircea_popescu just like acid isn't a good adjuvant to latent paranoia.
23:10 BingoBoingo http://music-mix.ew.com/2009/04/20/breaking-bads-s/
23:10 assbot How did a scary Mexican gangsta-rap group end up on one of TV's hottest shows? | The Music Mix | EW.com
23:10 mircea_popescu decimation people got hacked lately with this "only the general is important" rootkit. it meshes well with the divinsation of data-in-se
23:11 mircea_popescu because somehow they've decided "data" is a substance, it's no longer fit for the thinking man to generate data, and so no more of things like the excellent field reports people like saussure and levi-strauss dedicated their lives to
23:11 mircea_popescu so now all one can still do with his mind is "generalize"
23:11 mircea_popescu on the basis of the holy data, as such.
23:12 decimation to me, if one is going to improve on the "only in general" then one is going to have to better than Kant, Kierkegaard, Spinoza, Leibniz, etc.
23:12 * asciilifeform most people taking it will scrub << wonders what kind of 'public education' films will be made about, e.g., logic analyzers, when these are banned
23:12 mircea_popescu decimation the point is valid, there's relatively little useful stuff these singers/songwriters can do.
23:13 mircea_popescu asciilifeform you actually dispute this ?
23:13 decimation "on the basis of holy data" << oglaf's princeling is searching for holy data to generalize upon as well :)
23:13 asciilifeform re: mexican drug ballads: obligatory: http://www.malavita.com/diemusik_en.html
23:13 assbot LA MUSICA DELLA MAFIA
23:14 mircea_popescu somehow it's conveniently forgotten that einstein's general revolution was based on laboratory data
23:14 mircea_popescu THAT WAS MOSTLY NOT ACCEPTED AS DATA at the time.
23:14 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i believe it. most people - will, likely - scrub.
23:14 decimation so was maxwell's brilliant analysis
23:14 mircea_popescu the establishment had a different set of data.
23:14 mircea_popescu decimation exactly.
23:14 mircea_popescu asciilifeform not saying this is grounds to make anything legal or illegal, obviously.
23:15 mircea_popescu but i don't believe you'll ever be able to run a place where drugs (the actual sort) are legal, for purely economic reasons.
23:15 asciilifeform gedankenexperiment time. go to your workbench, pick some precious, rare, instrument - and contemplate what 'most people' would do with it.
23:15 asciilifeform enough to give you insomnia.
23:17 asciilifeform economic reasons >> so long as the slaves get the right kind of marching powder (i.e., with the requisite proportion of meth to opium) - what economic reasons ?
23:17 mircea_popescu exactly those.
23:17 mircea_popescu you presume to know who the slaves are.
23:17 mircea_popescu how would you ?
23:17 asciilifeform presumably - the folks queueing up for the marching powder ?
23:18 mircea_popescu but whether it's legal or illegal doesn't decide whether they queue up for it
23:18 mircea_popescu instead, it decides if you may force them to take it.
23:18 asciilifeform aha the olympics thread
23:18 mircea_popescu quite.
23:18 asciilifeform 'if you can, you must' ?
23:18 mircea_popescu exactly. making conception illegal for young women is fundamental if you want an educated set of women
23:19 mircea_popescu because if it's not illegal, they'll all get impregnated aged 16
23:19 mircea_popescu the most curious one the first and foremost
23:19 mircea_popescu and curiosity is a cognate of intelligence. especially in women
23:20 decimation asciilifeform: "rare instrument" << I'm imagining a spectrum analyzer providing light for reading :(
23:20 mircea_popescu decimation i bet you he had this microscope nails thing in his head.
23:21 asciilifeform or this:
23:21 asciilifeform https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pzvEouWino
23:21 assbot C1-65A - Bad Apple (HD) - YouTube
23:21 * BingoBoingo awaits the Bitcoincorridos
23:22 decimation asciilifeform: lol I'm not sure that old crt o-scope could be put to much better use
23:23 * asciilifeform is quite partial to crt scope, except on occasion of travel
23:24 BingoBoingo "Next, Golubic contacted Sony/BMG Latin, one of the few American labels that produces narcocorridos,and the label offered one of its up-and-coming acts, Les Cuates deSinaloa."
23:24 decimation asciilifeform: I would agree that nothing quite replaces that "temporary storage" of phosphor fading slowly
23:25 asciilifeform [insert obligatory bitching about ADC quantization artifacts here]
23:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18702 @ 0.00063068 = 11.795 BTC [-]
23:27 decimation asciilifeform: yeah most folks don't realize the limitations of adc's, especially when it comes to dynamic range issues
23:29 decimation asciilifeform: I see your o-scope video raise you this guy: http://blog.narrat1ve.com/2013/08/08/vectors-or-my-man-inf-left-a-vec-and-a-9-at-my-crib/
23:29 assbot Nerdy Texts of Analog and Embedded Systems Wizardry » Blog Archive » Vectors, or “My Man Inf Left A VEC and a 9 At My Crib”
23:31 * asciilifeform lolz, owns that board
23:31 decimation the xilinx board?
23:31 asciilifeform that one.
23:32 asciilifeform (among others)
23:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1659 @ 0.00063735 = 1.0574 BTC [+]
23:39 decimation apparently this guy wrote most of the RTL: http://www.batslyadams.com/
23:39 assbot Andy's Electronics Projects
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