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03:22 deedbot http://bimbo.club/?p=23 << Bimbo.Club - TMSR Log Summary - 9/15/2018
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04:00 mircea_popescu trinque sweet.
04:01 mircea_popescu maybe you should spend more time watching gangbangers exsangvinate.
04:05 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2009/economia-sexului/#selection-77.42-77.94 << epic re-read. and yes, very much going back to religious supression, it's called "feminism", and it "liberates" women. from "rape" and "the male gaze" and things.
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06:30 ave1 !Q later tell phf, I've been running some tests on my system and it could be that an earlier step failed to install the header files correctly, could you run these commands and send me the output? http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/EllTj/?raw=true
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06:30 lobbesbot ave1: The operation succeeded.
06:32 ave1 I'm also installing debian 8.10 to see if I can find anything (Spyked had a similar problem a while back but then he retried the script on another system so we never went deeper into this problem)
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10:29 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-23#1852899 << ugh.. did they amputate ?
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10:29 a111 Logged on 2018-09-23 00:51 trinque: asciilifeform: funny enough, I end up at the ER waiting room (friend has ectopic pregnancy), and all I see sitting here are hooker-escorted-cops coming and going.
10:31 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-23#1852907 << mircea_popescu had a pretty great 'armless plumber' piece (where was it..)
10:31 a111 Logged on 2018-09-23 01:10 trinque: inb4 "it's unfair to choose your own hooker, must select at random"
10:32 asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2013/two-business-ideas-for-missing-arms <<
10:36 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-23#1852915 << what was the orig puzzler ?
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10:36 a111 Logged on 2018-09-23 01:17 trinque: ahaha, and in this scene, I get the cuntoo profile thing solved.
10:49 BingoBoingo So Friday night 19 year old kid was struck by a car 2 blocks away from my bed in an act the competent authorities are pinning on "street racers". So the question is "Wat do?"
10:51 BingoBoingo Wat do? Leads to a heavy presence of traffic police on foot wearing their yellow vests and covering about a quarter block area immediately around where the crash was the night before.
10:55 BingoBoingo The road in question is the Rambla (not to be confused with The Rambla, the major coastal walk way next to the road where locals sit on grass and hit their Mate crack pipes) which is the closest thing the city has to a freeway.
11:00 BingoBoingo Imagine my surprise walking past and not seeing a single assault rifle or submachine gun among the group given the way the local police arm themselves for other occasions.
11:01 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: do they ever even fire them broomstix? not such big town that you couldnt hear it, i imagine ?
11:02 BingoBoingo Flock of traffic police in yellow vests in a crowd size that routinely gets Aloha Snackbarred in Europe expected to confront motor vehicles while less imposingly armed than daytime ATM cops
11:03 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: They don't fire them anywhere near me. Further north and east recently they have gotten into at least one firefight according to the local papers, but hard tell what the police fired
11:05 BingoBoingo There were injuries among the police and "Prosegur" private security folks involved. Casualties among the bank robbers less certain.
11:11 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: sounds like 'own goal', ameri-style
11:13 BingoBoingo Not at all unlikely
11:18 BingoBoingo Tambien the visibility of the "Special Forces Police" has gone up as well. They Ride around in pairs on big Kawasaki adventure motocicletas or drive around in pairs in small SUV's with anti brick mesh over the windows. I have never actually seen them moving, They just seem to park at corners and sit to be visible
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11:26 trinque aaaand cuntoo rebuilt (emerge -aev @world) using only cuntoo ebuilds
11:27 trinque no remaining blockers for first release
11:28 trinque http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-23#1852927 << took some tube on one side, but other side's fine. minimal blood loss, chick's doing great.
11:28 a111 Logged on 2018-09-23 14:29 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-23#1852899 << ugh.. did they amputate ?
11:30 trinque http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-23#1852932 << I wrote a profile flattener which would walk the profile tree and concat all the config files. sadly, the rules by which a parent's configs are applied to the child are neither of parent-wins or child-wins. it appears that mask and force interact in a more complicated way that I've yet to fully load into skull
11:30 a111 Logged on 2018-09-23 14:36 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-23#1852915 << what was the orig puzzler ?
11:31 trinque what I've done instead is slurped out just the profiles used, without concatenating. this fits with my strategy of the genesis patch being as close to "what was found" as possible, with only machine transformations involved in the leap from gentoo to cuntoo
11:32 trinque I can next hand-craft a descendent patch for a similar "tmsr" base profile, and torch all the rest
11:38 asciilifeform meanwhile in vintage 'man-alones', http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-29#1550604 >> dead.
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11:38 a111 Logged on 2016-09-29 22:36 asciilifeform: http://woodcoin.xyz/woodcoin/today << lelz, apparently funkenstein made his own chan, a while ago, complete with logs, bots, etc.
11:39 asciilifeform trinque: neato. and asciilifeform loox forward to test.
11:52 mod6 #metoo
11:58 mod6 how goes mircea_popescu?
11:59 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-23#1852927 << thinking about it, there's actually a LOT of societal change underway. take fetlife : it consists, as far as identifiable human life is concerned, of one dude who made some money (usuaully, "tech", which is to say computers -- but as girl points out, "i also know a lot of computer geeks who have no money ; ie, "ILLEGAL" computers) who have a cunt that's looking for another cunt. be
11:59 a111 Logged on 2018-09-23 14:29 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-23#1852899 << ugh.. did they amputate ?
11:59 mircea_popescu cause god damn it, who the fuck is gonna get "married" and "monogamy" ? harem or get lost, the social choices are asexual wankerism for the govt-supported and harem for the miscolred bits crowd. that's it and that's all, the 1970 "new york of trades" where "every man" house, wife, children, etc (cher's moonstruck a fine example of this utopia as ever can be had) utterly disappeared sometime since america ended.
12:02 mircea_popescu and i don't think there is a SINGLE cop anywhere in the us who isn't either a) completely braindamaged, "i pray every day i manage to get through the day without fucking up massively, like, losing my gun in some bushes because i shat myself hearing gunfire" a la j c reilly in magnolia)
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12:02 mircea_popescu or else exactly this b), "i got a harem of whores on the quiet". and this b is maybe 60% of the "force", really.
12:03 mircea_popescu the ~reason~ every study finds that whores with pimps are doing 20-50% better than solo artists is PRECISELY that 70-80% of the "pimps" (ie, the men in these women's lives, that they navigate around and anchor their life on / center their affect on) are cops.
12:03 mircea_popescu mod6 goes great!
12:03 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: iirc you spent some yrs in egypt; what % of chix wouldja say were parked in harems ( of arity >= 2 , lol )
12:04 mircea_popescu foregoing leaving me with the conclusion that chicks who don't want to lindsey kuper / http://trilema.com/2014/and-now-for-part-2-of-our-smash-hit-hey-stupid-women-we-need-to-talk-smart-women-don%E2%80%99t-want-to-be-with-you-anymore/ (ie, be the house mother of a bunch of tards, either cockless males online or else dubious junkies offline)
12:04 mircea_popescu are stuck either b) joining a herd of similarly cunted followers of a great man or else c) convincingly telling themselves they don't have sexual parts.
12:05 mircea_popescu asciilifeform all with sexual value above epsilon.
12:05 mircea_popescu !!key Zdenko
12:05 deedbot Not registered.
12:07 asciilifeform lol, picture thread, a: 'what % of what they ate was meat, mircea_popescu ' m : 'all with nutritive value > epsilon, was in my fridge !'
12:07 mircea_popescu not in my fridge! i was personally tolerated (with my "harem of one") among a select crowd of upwardly mobile, english speaking, "tryna make something of this shithole" young males.
12:07 asciilifeform hm.
12:08 mircea_popescu the ones who won out of the "go to the center of businessmen, pay for dialup modem by hour, write love letters to fat white women, get them to come over with money, build house at euro standards for tourist trade" lottery.
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12:08 mod6 haha
12:09 * asciilifeform read recently a description of this egypt, from a ru chix pov
12:09 asciilifeform went, roughly, 'yes i can have anyffing i want here, but they're fucking subhuman'
12:10 mircea_popescu now, it's true that the ovine set (because yes, every harem stratified, not "all womenz alike" http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-23#1852907 bs exists in there), so there IS a portion that can't think but breastfeed ok had 0 problem doing it right in front of me, evne though as much as walking into the girls' subway cart was a major big fucking deal.
12:10 a111 Logged on 2018-09-23 01:10 trinque: inb4 "it's unfair to choose your own hooker, must select at random"
12:11 mircea_popescu and it's also true the yet unwed fillies were very flattered by strange requests like "gimme the pin that's holding up your hiqab, i wanna pierce this bottle of super glue".
12:11 mircea_popescu HOWEVER, loads and loads and LOADS of 30yo males without property were spending 24/7 trying to figure out how to use me to clean the shit of failure offa themselves.
12:12 asciilifeform lol! orcistani glue dun have pointy caps?!
12:12 mircea_popescu asciilifeform her arabic is poor. they're not subhuman, they just don't know what she knows./
12:12 mircea_popescu asciilifeform see ?
12:12 mircea_popescu read more arabic poetry ; understand more of the locals.
12:13 * asciilifeform on the beginning leg of a Mocky-inspired arabic kick , incidentally
12:13 mircea_popescu the one overpoweringly important question sitting at the cornerstone of all learning,
12:13 mircea_popescu is whether one does it to "it turns out i was right" or whether the one does it to "well, little wonder i lost myself, there wasn't much there to lose in the first place".
12:14 mircea_popescu the former is how erudition without girlfriends is managed by the sort of people who "i spent 30 years in china still don't have local whores ready to be turned out for love".
12:14 mircea_popescu i met some of these.
12:14 asciilifeform i'm going from a very vintage brit b00k, with very flavourful examples, e.g. 'donkey is poor man's horse', 'i killed the man whose uncle killed my father', 'to be killed is the noblest death', etc in this spirit
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12:16 mircea_popescu honestly i subscribe to the latter.
12:17 mircea_popescu who the fuck can possibly think so much of shits that "died in their bed" ?
12:17 mircea_popescu "you know what ? so did your unborn brother -- died in your mother's bed"
12:17 asciilifeform 'die not the straw death!'(tm)(r)(odin)
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12:18 asciilifeform one of those things sane folx seem to come to agreement in.
12:22 mircea_popescu "house mother" being, of course, the term of art -- the matron of ye olde brothel, this big fat older woman.
12:26 mircea_popescu anyway, russian (at least as far as classical ru cultuer goes) chick is possibly the LEAST capable of making the jump. most demanding of manliness in the mate female out there, "you know what ? ima go be this guy's whore, get lost loser" QUITE the open possibility even walkin' down the street.
12:26 mircea_popescu so no, i don't expect she'd easily manage a moscow-cairo resettlement on her own steam.
12:27 asciilifeform is how they end up in camelfuckistan to begin with, neh.
12:29 mircea_popescu well... i dunno. she wants a tall blond white guy (arabs are short olive darkhaired) who can jump on a fleeing horse and drink with her (arabs can't drink) and gets fucking furious on a dime (arabs are much mellower, they get fucking enraged, but it takes them more than 800ms).
12:30 mircea_popescu these are the sticky points, roughly.
12:31 asciilifeform whoknows, could be -- wanted chechen, but her compass was broken, lol
12:35 mircea_popescu nah, see, problems with chechek is that she ALSO wants guy who reliably rapes the system/police/hermother.
12:35 mircea_popescu and while this can be had in both moscow and cairo, it can't be fucking had in orcland. though she'll confusingly not call this, the only true subhumanity, "subhuman", more like "they're fuckingstupid, like children"
12:36 mircea_popescu but they are NOT like children, they are like morons. that her inner uvula tingle proposes that "boy who drinks and rides will grow into landruler" dun mean it's how it actually goes.
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12:55 asciilifeform 'not all that glitters' etc
12:56 mircea_popescu or tingles, as the case may be. yes/
12:56 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-23#1852961 << they actually select for this, somewhat, by hiring ~100% iraq tour
12:56 a111 Logged on 2018-09-23 16:02 mircea_popescu: and i don't think there is a SINGLE cop anywhere in the us who isn't either a) completely braindamaged, "i pray every day i manage to get through the day without fucking up massively, like, losing my gun in some bushes because i shat myself hearing gunfire" a la j c reilly in magnolia)
12:57 asciilifeform ( the days when general-purpose jobless d00d could sign up in ameri-police, are long gone )
12:57 mircea_popescu that's the amusing part of the human body : if you can tickle her, she's not aroused, same pathway serves both and it'd be blocked. lots and lots and LOTS of this multi-use, switched single wiring in the human body. as a for instance, the "not all that tingles" signal for "don't end up with a loser" and "not all that tingles" signal for "downregulate libido in general" is the same pathway in womenz.
12:58 asciilifeform hey, critter that shares air hole with food hole also double-wires nerves, noose at 11..
12:58 mircea_popescu asciilifeform aha, it's well on its way to becoming the ruling caste of the sovietistan of america. much like in ye other one, really.
12:58 mircea_popescu asciilifeform and pee hole with delicious filling hole.
12:59 asciilifeform ( asciilifeform to pet, 'hey, which lips we feed first ?' )
12:59 trinque lol
12:59 mircea_popescu meanwhile in fetlulz, i neartly fell out of my chair, because after roughly 5k complaints "i can't read the subject line", in came one saying "oh, wait, i flipped my phone over now i see it"
13:00 mircea_popescu holy shit almighty.
13:00 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: aint they supposed to be self-flipping naodays?
13:00 mircea_popescu !!key zdeni82_
13:00 deedbot Not registered.
13:00 * trinque often to staff, "lets flap food holes for a while on this" to prompt switch to phone
13:01 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i have nfi. but if the problem isn't that the site's just broken, and cuts off subjects as a token of "great web ux", but rather they're just universally TOO FUCKING STUPID TO FLIP THEIR PHONES....
13:02 mircea_popescu sometimes i suspect the imbecility of the average walker is not sufficiently understood.
13:02 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i can only guess, the patients haven't bought that dinnerplate-sized ipnoje yet
13:03 trinque their lives are sufficiently cushioned (and brains sufficiently trained for such) that encountering $unexpected means obviously someone else is an idiot.
13:04 trinque http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-14#1541812
13:04 a111 Logged on 2016-09-14 15:24 asciilifeform: 'the only intuitive notation is the tit' or how did it go.
13:04 asciilifeform trinque: somehow! e.g. phuctor, displays on vert- and horiz- pnoje, vga, whatever.
13:04 trinque follows then that the whole world has been turned into tits
13:06 mircea_popescu here, in memory of trinque's saying, some free lulz : https://image.ibb.co/e8G3XU/severina.png
13:07 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: nao i gotta ask, how is that hollow 'fuck plug' used
13:07 asciilifeform is it 'adapter' to fit chinese cocks, or wat
13:07 mircea_popescu i imagine underwater torpedo tube sold separately ?
13:08 mircea_popescu (most women fail to get aroused with plastic only ; in unaroused women, the uterus head hurts when pounded [see above sicussion] ; therefore... why not fix the not-problem part of the problem)
13:08 asciilifeform that thing. i think my engine is mounted on something quite similar, wonder if clever repurpose.
13:09 mircea_popescu entirely possible.
13:09 mircea_popescu it is, after all, "the engine".
13:09 trinque "Made of thick, smooth silicone, the TUNNEL fuckplug is our finest hole spreader yet. The TUNNEL is everything you love about the PIGHOLE but???new, improved, and even nastier." << https://shop.oxballs.com/product.sc?productId=238
13:09 mircea_popescu as per the famous ro "ma, tancu' are motor ?"
13:09 trinque apparently yes, tiny cock adapter
13:09 asciilifeform PIGHOLE! they stoal asciilifeform's next product name!1111
13:10 mircea_popescu (for the non-native speaker, homophonous with "mata-n cur are motor ?")
13:10 mircea_popescu asciilifeform sowage. ballsick. we'll never run out.
13:12 asciilifeform i'ma not be surprised if that chix mircea_popescu sent to fetch toy catalogue, returns with 'auto-trek' parts book.
13:13 mircea_popescu in which lulz : took new girl to strip club and then brothel yest. strip club charged me $75 in cover, notwithstanding i brought the hottest girl there, by a fat margin. so while we sit and drink through our included drinks, i see, wonders of wonders, a girl's feet off the ground for once. first time in this country. she even did a bit of floor work! totally, for cr standards tango india vip is utterly happening.
13:14 mircea_popescu more disinterested girls you never saw, even at starbucks ; eventually the pit boss had to send a couple of the perfunctory shitheads to sit at our table, whom i waved off to their great excitement (how wonderful! now we can just say we checked the tickbox and don't have to do anything! there's nothing anyone can do, we tried!).
13:14 mircea_popescu all around, fat computer geeks holding on to their beers.
13:14 mircea_popescu then, at the brothel, a hundred or so chicks you wouldn't fuck, on parade. "why is everyone here speaking english ?!"
13:15 asciilifeform i take it this wasn't in the anglo-greenzone, either ( why would mircea_popescu go there )
13:15 mircea_popescu a few retirees on evidently fixed incomes. i can't imagine who the fuck would let them in, they want to nurse a beer while some hottie holds their thigh, it looks WAY too much like retirement home services for comfort.
13:15 mircea_popescu but the bulk... fat computer geeks holding on to their beers.
13:15 mircea_popescu to wind down this lengthy story : i can fucking see why there's a market for cocksleeves.
13:15 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: gotta ask, how didja know they weren't fat accountants
13:16 mircea_popescu there's this particular air of confusion lots of exceljava leaves on the eyes. sort-of like in an aquarium nobody ever cleans.
13:16 mircea_popescu !!key zdeni82_
13:16 deedbot http://wot.deedbot.org/0005DB56E0C07B515C238CCCB7BDD47CD7AA72DC.asc
13:22 asciilifeform !#s go gauge
13:22 a111 6 results for "go gauge", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=go%20gauge
13:24 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-23#1852944 << pretty much what they do downtown here also. it discourages the drunks/junkies from grabbing purses/pestering the ever-dwindling rich white people seeking a little thrill.
13:24 a111 Logged on 2018-09-23 15:18 BingoBoingo: Tambien the visibility of the "Special Forces Police" has gone up as well. They Ride around in pairs on big Kawasaki adventure motocicletas or drive around in pairs in small SUV's with anti brick mesh over the windows. I have never actually seen them moving, They just seem to park at corners and sit to be visible
13:25 mircea_popescu (downtown san jose is very much what'd count as lafond's baltimore in the states -- very cheap flophouses, very cheap bars, unattended garbage, girls sleeping six to a bed, all that good stuff)
13:26 asciilifeform i'd expect ~= bmore, yes, except with 100 pound, rather than 300 , gulz, and with human not monkey faces, yes
13:27 asciilifeform ( some time mircea_popescu equip that uboat and visit bmore, will see what i mean )
13:27 mircea_popescu junkies are the same junkies everywhere.
13:27 mircea_popescu this is, after all, the fucking point. they take the stuff to be less like themselves, yes.
13:28 mircea_popescu "men may be different, but all drunks are the same" or how did that bartender joke go
13:28 asciilifeform as i understand, dopes come with - and + 'charge', e.g. meth aficionados become 'moar' like selves
13:28 mircea_popescu really ? i never saw this.
13:29 asciilifeform ye olde http://btcbase.org/log/2014-08-25#808005 thread
13:29 a111 Logged on 2014-08-25 03:08 asciilifeform: busy as a bee << funny that they show an idiot sow scrubbing, and not, e.g, paul erdos crapping out theorems
13:29 mircea_popescu methheads eminently similar.
13:29 asciilifeform superficially similar
13:29 mircea_popescu oh, deep down ?
13:29 mircea_popescu mkay.
13:29 asciilifeform mno
13:30 asciilifeform 100% similar ~to each other~, no shit, same starting qty, same sum
13:30 mircea_popescu well so then.
13:31 asciilifeform meant, result is sorta like adding jet to toyota. start with tin can that went slowly but maybe had working steering, end with rocket that goes to nearest wall.
13:32 mircea_popescu i guess. from observation, it is somewhat difficult to distinguish specific talent in girls. i do this professionally, so to speak, and spend a lot of time/resources on it.
13:32 mircea_popescu it is comparatiovely very easy to notice junkie.
13:34 mircea_popescu whether great general or humble accountant, whether sohrab or nameless coward, takes some teasing out. but whether habit or not habit, evident at first sight even to the pigs/social workers.
13:34 asciilifeform out of curiosity, is it also easy to distinguish junkie when the latter has its fix ?
13:34 asciilifeform ( think herman goering, rather than gabriel_laddel )
13:35 mircea_popescu well... but i mean, what. speed freak on speed ? yes, evident. heroin addict on heroin ? yes fucking evident. cokehead ? yes.
13:35 asciilifeform ( or -- is 'junkie' ~definitionally~ addict who lacks his fix )
13:36 mircea_popescu no, junkie is definitionally... actually, there's a great film, in which al pacino is "about to quit, he's jsut chippin' anyway" and his brother tells his gf he ain't chippin, he's a user.
13:36 asciilifeform just how numerous are 'addict WITH fix' anyway
13:36 mircea_popescu junkie is definitionally the drug user whose drug habit has produced biological changes.
13:36 mircea_popescu asciilifeform well, all addicts get a fix now and again or else cold turkey out of it.
13:37 asciilifeform iirc gabriel_laddel claimed to have gone yrs without fix, but still pined for it
13:37 mircea_popescu and years without a girl, still pined also. what's pinery to do with anything
13:37 asciilifeform rright, iirc the shrinks seem to distinguish 'bio' addict from 'mental' one
13:39 asciilifeform ( and the q is, who counts as addict. and does def then include e.g. thyroid patient, and chix on bc pillz )
13:40 mircea_popescu anyway, the junkie's like the "pleabargained" felon or the married man : refuse, used up. he's got his children to take care of and a certain investment, no longer apt of being part of human society. http://trilema.com/2012/cine-se-casatoreste/ problem.
13:40 mircea_popescu junkie != addict. the term denotes a specific thing.
13:41 mircea_popescu approximately same relationship between junkie and addiction as between perdition and sin.
13:42 asciilifeform hm.
13:56 mircea_popescu (pacino film being http://trilema.com/2012/the-panic-in-needle-park/ )
14:02 ave1 phf, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-23#1852924, I've tried on debian and I can reproduce the problem, Unfortunately I have no solution yet (it will probably be a patch). It seems the default/internal gcc spec defines "-isystem /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu
14:02 a111 Logged on 2018-09-23 10:30 ave1: !Q later tell phf, I've been running some tests on my system and it could be that an earlier step failed to install the header files correctly, could you run these commands and send me the output? http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/EllTj/?raw=true
14:02 ave1 "
14:02 ave1 and debian / ubuntu systems have this directory, and as it is an -isystem def it will be used before the -isystem given at the command prompt.
14:03 ave1 I'll work on a fix this week
14:04 mircea_popescu check them out, hardcoded configs!
14:04 asciilifeform ave1: '-isystem' dun happen in other heathen gcc ??
14:04 asciilifeform ( or how else to explain that the recipe worx errywhere i've tried it )
14:04 ave1 it's in gcc 4.9.4 for sure
14:05 ave1 other systems do not have /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu
14:05 asciilifeform errywhere i tried it, i built 1st stage on adacore's gnat, which iirc is 4.9.4
14:05 asciilifeform hm
14:05 mircea_popescu see the subtle beauty of it ?
14:06 asciilifeform ave1: nope, /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu exists in trad gentoo as well (on e.g. dulap)
14:06 asciilifeform and builder -- built.
14:06 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-23#1852953 << hard out there for a pimp, when he trynna make his naive notions stick...
14:06 a111 Logged on 2018-09-23 15:38 asciilifeform: meanwhile in vintage 'man-alones', http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-29#1550604 >> dead.
14:06 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: and for all i know, perished aeons ago, i simply happened to walk the vintage l0g today
14:06 ave1 I'll then have to check how gcc sorts the -isystem arguments
14:07 mircea_popescu ave1 entirely poissible trinque 's right, ~random order.
14:07 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: for extra bonus lulz, the d00d still hangs in kako's chan, and talks, and as if his world never died, somehow
14:07 mircea_popescu "works sometimes" sorta result.
14:08 mircea_popescu asciilifeform very insidious, this "you can imagine a world for yourself to live in". will take just as much as you got to give. i suppose it should be the fourth rider of apocalypse -- junkies, pleabargains, husbands and tulpas.
14:08 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: all of these, 1 horse, really
14:09 asciilifeform perhaps 4 legs of it, if you like
14:09 asciilifeform ( some folx never got the memo, that if you imagine world but dun lift a finger to build, the folx in white coats show up eventually )
14:24 mircea_popescu the key's not "lift finger to build", but rather "alter design on basis of reports from builders".
14:30 mircea_popescu meanwhile in trilema spelunkology, anyone recall http://trilema.com/2013/ive-found-her/ ?
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14:30 deedbot http://bimbo.club/?p=24 << Bimbo.Club - TMSR Log Summary - 9/16/2018
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15:29 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: not only remember, but there was a 2nd part, 'adult woman'
15:29 asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2016/portrait-of-an-adult-woman/
15:31 phf ave1: thank you for investigation, i've gotten as far myself. there's an implicit global isystem that gets placed ahead of whatever isystem's you pass on command line. i've tried a variety of flags (e.g. --nostdinc), but didn't find the right combination yet. (the other way to discover it instead of using strace is to run the cpp -v command instead with most of the same arguments)
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15:31 lobbesbot phf: Sent 9 hours ago: <ave1> been running some tests on my system and it could be that an earlier step failed to install the header files correctly, could you run these commands and send me the output? http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/EllTj/?raw=true
15:33 mod6 jurov: plz to check and see if my msg to the ML is stuck in the pipes. thanks in advance.
15:34 mod6 ben_vulpes: plz to bring back mimi to #pizarro for logging
15:41 deedbot http://ossasepia.com/2018/09/23/dressing-directions-of-sorts/ << Ossasepia - Dressing Directions of Sorts
15:44 mod6 meanwhile, I've just dropped the thing on my website: http://mod6.net/excise_hash_truncation_regrind/
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16:53 mircea_popescu also meanwhile in http://trilema.com/2009/il-stiti-pe-merkley/ : dood's still active (mostly, doing music now). and also @merkley "If you don't hate who I hate then you are hateful and I hate you." - Twitter 2018
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16:55 mircea_popescu https://threequestionmarks.com/the-photo-thing%3F%3F%3F << pretty great fucking sendoff, too. "Merkley??? spent a little over a decade with photoshop, naked people, pets and groceries and this is part of what came of it all. When the Kardashians and instagram hit the scene, he sorta lost interest in superficial physical beauty. I think you know what that's all about."
16:55 mircea_popescu dude was in point of fact doing the whole instagram scene, by himself, AND BETTER, a decade earlier.
16:55 mircea_popescu somehow instagram doesn't feel obligated to always prefix anything they do or say with "you know, we're the shitty merkley??? clone" though.
16:56 mircea_popescu they should be -- anything else is fucking fascism.
16:59 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-23#1853137 << this reminds me of an item i had on chalkboard but never had a chance to actually bake -- a running log of where/when (ip, remote ver, time) noad got each incoming candidate block .
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16:59 a111 Logged on 2018-09-23 19:44 mod6: meanwhile, I've just dropped the thing on my website: http://mod6.net/excise_hash_truncation_regrind/
16:59 mircea_popescu pretty useful.
17:00 asciilifeform i suspect the experiment would quickly reveal where actual blox come from, and from where -- all rubbish, 24/7/365
17:01 asciilifeform ... and give clue re the ~troo~ size of the btc net
17:02 asciilifeform would also be interesting to log chain splittage in real time, but this is luxury.
17:04 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-23#1853138 << the chix threaded onto a kitchen faucet -- is genius
17:04 a111 Logged on 2018-09-23 20:53 mircea_popescu: also meanwhile in http://trilema.com/2009/il-stiti-pe-merkley/ : dood's still active (mostly, doing music now). and also @merkley "If you don't hate who I hate then you are hateful and I hate you." - Twitter 2018
17:06 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-23#1853132 << i dun expect there'll be much disagreement, but imho hardcoded paths (to anyffing) Must Die ( naturally wont help folx building on heathen gcc, but speaking of our cemented one )
17:06 a111 Logged on 2018-09-23 19:31 phf: ave1: thank you for investigation, i've gotten as far myself. there's an implicit global isystem that gets placed ahead of whatever isystem's you pass on command line. i've tried a variety of flags (e.g. --nostdinc), but didn't find the right combination yet. (the other way to discover it instead of using strace is to run the cpp -v command instead with most of the same arguments)
17:07 asciilifeform ... and prolly a necessary pre-req to stripping support for dynamic linkage entirely
17:08 asciilifeform ( asciilifeform's main hesitation re subj is how to avoid losing e.g. gprof, on box where 0 dynamics. but this is prolly solvable, somehow )
17:08 mircea_popescu guy was pretty good, yeah. moreover, and importantly -- while his best always was over instagram's best, his EVERY ITEM was always above threshold. whereas instagram's AVERAGE item is always below threshold.
17:08 asciilifeform actual artist beats shit out of fungus, noose at 11..
17:09 mircea_popescu this is a much more fucking important consideration that ever considered, specifically because of the http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-28#1759568 line.
17:09 a111 Logged on 2017-12-28 14:27 mircea_popescu: there is no, strictly speaking, reason that iron MUST be provided on the surface of a planet just like the earth. it ~could~, very well, have simply gone through a place poor in planetoids and ended up entirely iron free on the surface. but it did not.
17:10 mircea_popescu the fact that ~every~ item you look at will turn out to have been ~worth~ looking at is overpowering -- because it makes a life of the mind accessible to much more people.
17:10 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: good chunk of planet3 lacks easy iron. hence aztec etc. dead end people.
17:10 mircea_popescu as it stands right now, i and i alone, with the thin sliver of others who presumably exist and presumably can afford to sift through millions of fetlife tards can afford women.
17:10 mircea_popescu if EVERY woman were in fact worth talking to, much more people could enjoy one.
17:11 mircea_popescu but as they're few and far between, well... "transsexuals".
17:11 mircea_popescu "i'm gay" "why ?" "because okcupid sucks and if i ask someone out at work they'll arrest me"
17:12 mircea_popescu asciilifeform precisely. and this supposedly "nascent" culture in our colonies died before it even fucking begun, drowned in this ever-giving gift of consumerism.
17:12 mircea_popescu you know there's women out there, going through every single endless warehouse, feeling between thumb and index every single item of clothing ? years on end like this, never found anything yet.
17:12 asciilifeform relatedly, last i saw ameristan has finally squandered the last of its 1 and only mineral monopoly (helium)
17:13 mircea_popescu now let's back to http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-13#1841226
17:13 a111 Logged on 2018-08-13 16:54 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: about a decade ago, i bought, on a lark, a keychain thing that claimed to contain all of the text of the then-pediwikia, and had 'random' button. ~99+% of presses of this button, resulted in 'flyshit, montana'-type nowhere-village article.
17:13 mircea_popescu the original reason encyclopedists were even a thing, in the 1800s, was that their product ~was worth reading~ in all cases. the ~entire use of an encyclopedia is for kids to open it randomly and read interesting things regardless.
17:13 asciilifeform lol i still have that thing. lulzily, they were designed and built by a sort of lone wolf craftsman, thing actually runs a forth interpreter.
17:14 mircea_popescu fail at this, the result is not worth the mention.
17:14 asciilifeform theoretically repurposable into sumthing useful..
17:14 mircea_popescu asciilifeform truebeliever manalone.
17:14 asciilifeform as far as i can tell, dead
17:14 asciilifeform ( the d00d, not the box, the box is by all indications indestructible )
17:14 mircea_popescu aha
17:15 asciilifeform i wish i knew where he sourced the 1980s 200x100 passive lcd thing in it.
17:15 asciilifeform runs on <1mA or around.
17:15 mircea_popescu aaanyways, i will go on the record to say that the ENTIRE instagram ~culture~, which includes the website, the "content creators", the clones, the conference circlejerk and everything else is an inferior replacement of 90s merkley???
17:15 mircea_popescu and if the latter was wortth maybe a few mn all told, the ENTREI instagram ~culture~ (again -- not just the site) is barely worth 10k.
17:16 mircea_popescu which is eerily similar to what these shits ever sell on an open market, be it myspace, slashdot, or whatever else.
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17:16 mircea_popescu separated from the jews "doing great business together", the paintings accidentally destroyed by laundry women go back to their proper fishwrapping value.
17:18 asciilifeform https://archive.is/uhFO6 , http://wiki.seabright.co.nz/wiki/files/both-halves.jpg << upstack-subj, photo.
17:19 asciilifeform ( picture if the thing had shipped with an ~actual~ encyclopaedia ! )
17:19 mircea_popescu looks ordinary enough...
17:19 mircea_popescu asciilifeform but WHAT actual encyclopedia ? no actual men did no actual things in 70 years!
17:19 mircea_popescu what'd be on it ?
17:19 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: ahahaaha, see, but runs on pair of alkalines for ~decade. unlike the 'ordinary' lcd pocket boxen sold in pnoje shops etc
17:20 mircea_popescu asciilifeform now thing for a moment --- "random day of logs". suddenly...
17:20 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i'd settle for the dirigible-era encyclopaedia, if it comes to it
17:20 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: or THAT!
17:20 mircea_popescu i suppose i could sell random ro trilema page gizmo.
17:20 asciilifeform easily
17:20 mircea_popescu in that it's finished, it can be toyified.
17:20 mircea_popescu problem with logs or en trilema is that is not yet finished.
17:21 asciilifeform exactly : l0gz perhaps not best use case, because plentiful linkage to net
17:21 mircea_popescu but see, THIS is why no old world encyclopedia no more.
17:21 mircea_popescu because we've actually and for once "moved beyond that"
17:21 mircea_popescu the log as it is is the log as it is is the log, as it is.
17:21 asciilifeform at one time , pre-tmsr, i thought of reprogramming the thing to display naggum. but before ever got around to any such thing, finished reading all of him, turned out he was pretty small
17:23 asciilifeform designer of 'reader' was pretty dumb in 1 way -- if he had made it simple to substitute in new text, thing could be best-seller to this day, imho
17:23 asciilifeform ( e.g. hieroglyph learners, could push 'show me random hieroglyph', etc )
17:24 mircea_popescu but see, truebeliever.
17:24 mircea_popescu he wanted to use his skill to help what he thought was the republic flourish.
17:24 asciilifeform dunno if that, or if simple failure of imagination, 'hmm, what text will folx read on a b&w lcd ? iknow, pediwikia'
17:24 mircea_popescu sadly what he thought was the republic was the previous decade's reddit, "outgrowth of a pedo picture trading club"
17:25 asciilifeform 'charlie was a chemist, but charlie is no moar, for what he thought was h2o, was h2so4'(tm)(r)
17:26 mircea_popescu speaking of monstrosities like http://btcbase.org/log/2015-01-31#999165 -- i suppose the deep driver of their unhappiness is precisely this, "1990s pedos made wikipedia seem like it's a big deal, and 2000s pedos made reddit seem like it's a big deal. why can't we 2010s pedos make lesswrong/whatever pedo trading post seem like it's a big deal ?!!? god only knows we're the gays of a century ago, god-gifted with the only creativ
17:26 a111 Logged on 2015-01-31 00:59 assbot: dgerard comments on The Emperor is Buttnaked (BTC block size discussion with Gavin) ... ( http://bit.ly/1vhO67K )
17:26 mircea_popescu e genius evermore"
17:27 mircea_popescu imo the proposed thought process completely explanatory of the entire menagerie.
17:28 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i.e. http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-04#1809349 ?
17:28 a111 Logged on 2018-05-04 17:15 zx2c4: mircea_popescu: oh. so. "the world doesnt care about the cool hackers on the internet, but only the assholes with prestigious positions." this has been a widely known complaint for a long time
17:28 mircea_popescu notreally. there's a "secret brotherhood", see ?
17:28 mircea_popescu "cool hackers" means jack shit, what is it, kids trying to impress schoolmates ? menalone going their cool way ? what ?
17:29 mircea_popescu it's one step towards republican awakening, sure, "use the fucking noggin". but it's not much by itself.
17:29 asciilifeform i actually have nfi what specifically the zx2c4 d00d was speaking of.
17:29 asciilifeform but pictured sumthing like this
17:29 mircea_popescu whereas the thing with pedos is that they're one step further on the path -- "we have a BROTHERHOOD". pedophilia in the modern sense is a deeply communal activity -- the more people jacking off to the same videos of beheaded children, the more sustainable the activity of beheading childrten.
17:30 asciilifeform lol some brotherhood, they havent even invented omerta
17:30 asciilifeform ( and is the reason why usg likes to staff 'bitcoin phoundations' etc with pedos )
17:30 mircea_popescu so ... "follow your own mind, irrespective of anything" PLUS "find others like you" creates... well, before tmsr, it created the only hot core of creation in the empire. hence wikipedia, hence reddit, and so on.
17:30 asciilifeform !#s brock
17:30 a111 147 results for "brock", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=brock
17:31 mircea_popescu "read some fucking history", ie, the holy logs, is arguably (at least, from an usg.blue "expert"'s pov) the ~only innovation we bring.
17:31 asciilifeform literacy, it's a thing, aha
17:31 mircea_popescu it's eternaly fascinated, for the zoologist, what portions of the human become visible to the goats and when.
17:32 mircea_popescu "oh, he's got shoes, that's what it is!"
17:32 asciilifeform literacy is the only working defense against the http://btcbase.org/log/2014-02-01#472242 thing, and is 'only a terrorist'(tm) 'would make logs'
17:32 a111 Logged on 2014-02-01 13:03 mircea_popescu: incidentally, this is how idiots like keiser work, too. all the obscure web "financial experts", or bet picking experts, or so on work on the same business model :
17:33 mircea_popescu anyway, the "alt right" dorks have no genuine driver for community. the pedos gotta trade the pics, there's no way out of this, they'll commune. the "nazis" don't have the driver, which is why they don't manage to amount to much, and hence plaintive lulz all around.
17:33 mircea_popescu i'm too lazy to dig up that twittertwat's lament recently linked.
17:33 asciilifeform which in particular? there's '9000' ~indistinguishable ones
17:33 mircea_popescu now i have to ;/
17:35 asciilifeform the 'right', 'nazi', 'weev', etc , types , not even reached level where can discuss 'community', they're still seated firmly in the comfortable usg.provocateur 'right bottle of pepsi' theatre
17:35 asciilifeform y'know, the http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1756992 pit.
17:35 a111 Logged on 2017-12-22 17:18 weevlos: trinque: we are a media publication. our power and capital comes from the number of visitors we have to the site. we aim to transform through culture. if normal people cannot visit our site we are not accomplishing our goal
17:36 asciilifeform 'rezistenta prin cultura'(tm)(r)
17:38 mircea_popescu meh can't fucking find it. some pantsuit-in-alt-colors prop derping about how unfair it is that his followers don't follow, and how much he spent having a security detail to eat sushi
17:38 asciilifeform iirc the milo antonopolis d00d
17:39 asciilifeform ( did some shilling for 'new, exciting' trump, then saw what summed to and went to the bottle )
17:39 mircea_popescu nah, some "gamergate" dood.
17:40 asciilifeform hm nfi then
17:41 asciilifeform but there's, yes, 9000 laments like this
17:41 asciilifeform 'what do you mean i was talking to /dev/null, where is my purpose nao!'
17:41 mircea_popescu also known as http://trilema.com/2017/where-the-fuck-is-everyone/
17:42 asciilifeform with the opposite charge, but aha same basic particle
17:43 mircea_popescu anyway, leaving behind the point -- there's a lot of frustration among "community organizers" (as the niggers prefer to call themselves) when they DO manage to community-organize and nothing fucking happens still.
17:43 mircea_popescu "but teach, this is so unfair, those other guys didn't even do this much!" sorta complaints.
17:43 asciilifeform 'spreading worked, but where is the eating!, reddit got to eat! we read it , on reddit'
17:44 asciilifeform ( there was a related mircea_popescu piece re paulgraham et al, in re how they tried to cargocult-revive orig 'dotcom' bacchanalia )
17:45 mircea_popescu so in short, what i'm working towards here, is that besides the elliot, who is the icon of the first pass, earnest and open, "salt of the earth" ustard, there's also http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-16#1850611
17:45 a111 Logged on 2018-09-16 03:07 mircea_popescu: meanwhile in about-as-interesting-as-usg lulz, https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Jeremy_Hambly
17:46 asciilifeform the fundamental lul is that it is impossible to explain to such patient exactly why money printer spilled forth tonnes of luscious green for his predecessor but doesn't want to for him
17:46 mircea_popescu that'd be the prototypical "community organizer" who is very angry not because, as elliot, "his birthright" of tall blond nubiles was denied him
17:46 asciilifeform aaa ! him! that was the item upstack
17:46 mircea_popescu but because his ~earned~ magic, of communityorganizing, failed to deliver the result printed on box.
17:47 asciilifeform ( btw prior to reading the hambly link i had nfi that 'world', what to call it, existed )
17:47 mircea_popescu asciilifeform intel meanwhile located item : http://archive.is/FzrUw#selection-1323.0-1351.334
17:47 asciilifeform aa so ~was~ milo, lol
17:47 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> the 'right', 'nazi', 'weev', etc , types , not even reached level where can discuss 'community', they're still seated firmly in the comfortable usg.provocateur 'right bottle of pepsi' theatre << They also fall into the pulp "Laws of Power" fanfic things so every single one imagines themselves the BIGGEST, leaderest, etc
17:49 mircea_popescu o damn, the "law of attraction" magix. not to be forgotten.
17:49 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> nah, some "gamergate" dood. << That was Milo, did gamergate, tried to jump on the trump train as token jewish homosexual bragging about BBC trophies, that discovery of his audience free status
17:49 asciilifeform in mostly unrelated lulz, there are apparently noads who shove a couple 100 MB (!) of bastard blox into a connected trb, prior to the latter throwing the ban switch ( because of the idjit shitoshi networking routine, actual disconnect happens a good 10-20sec after ban )
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17:49 mircea_popescu aha!
17:50 asciilifeform prolly good candidate for a fyootoor pill
17:51 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: in so far as i can tell, d00d was actually dumb enuff to believe that 'reddit right is a political force to be reckoned with' or somesuch
17:51 mircea_popescu see, but this is precisely what i'm saying... "why is my community organizing not doing anything".
17:52 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: I dunno he believed anything in particular
17:52 BingoBoingo Milo was purely performative, like the Police Special Forces
17:52 mircea_popescu the originally linked pedo, very similarly, "how could MY government not stopped bitcoin as i predicted by=yearly since 2012!!"
17:52 asciilifeform 'i sat and preached to this pig sty for decade, whaddayamean pigs dun win elections'
17:52 mircea_popescu and so on.
17:53 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: from human pov, ~all~ of what these derps do is 'purely performative' -- rather like those ruminants whose horns are set at such angle that they can never actually ding one another
17:53 asciilifeform but from their own eyes, naturally, 'mystery'
17:54 mircea_popescu basically, the zek's model is elliot ; but the pantsuitklatura's model is hamby.
17:55 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: I mean as in the guy took acting classes, Hollywood didn't call back, decided to do the irony schtick for a buck. Only sligtly less human view.
17:56 BingoBoingo In other oncology https://www.elobservador.com.uy/nota/un-poco-de-agua-fria-para-el-mate-2012825660
17:57 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: pretty typical, as i understand, for 'rear-wheel-drived' fellas ( btw i wonder what they're called in ro )
17:59 BingoBoingo That's what his twitter/reddit "supporters" figured too when the maybe pedo thing broke
18:01 asciilifeform or, moar recent example, the (gassed yet?) wilson d00d. apparently on top of the cnc thing, also made a 'hatreon', 'nazi' clone of patreon pantsuitism
18:02 asciilifeform ( quite likely even what got him nominated for woodchipper, i can't picture anybody on either side giving half a shit re umpteenth micro-cnc )
18:04 asciilifeform !#s hatereon
18:04 a111 0 results for "hatereon", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=hatereon
18:04 asciilifeform hm.
18:04 asciilifeform ( erry bit as snoar as it sounds, iirc . but somewhat surprised that 0 log . )
18:05 BingoBoingo Well, the derps who figured the pedo thing justified their demographic objections to Milo tend to be referring to Wilson's entrapmant as a such
18:07 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: the usual reddit-idjit red herring. ( as if he ~had~ to fuck a 17.9 y.o. whore, to be put on assange list, and would somehow not have sufficed that he wore leather shoes, or maybe said unkind word re j00z, or torrented 'star wars ixxxv' or whatever )
18:08 mircea_popescu i suppose http://trilema.com/2017/what-gets-me-hot/ is very much apropos
18:08 mircea_popescu (pro tip : cunt therein depicted is attached to 15yo)
18:08 asciilifeform !#s crime of american
18:08 a111 28 results for "crime of american", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=crime%20of%20american
18:08 asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2012/the-crime-of-being-american/ << $item.
18:10 asciilifeform социалистическая законность (tm)(r) btw.
18:11 asciilifeform ^ what they called this system in the old su.
18:14 asciilifeform there's a reason they try to set up 'fucked 17yo' for these, it is a kind of gold standard, rather like the old 'trotskyite counter-revolutionary activity', tends to put a cork in all discussion in derposphere by harnessing the healthy hatred for podesta-style pedo, insta-alchemizes accusation into 'guilt', etc
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18:15 mircea_popescu possibru
18:15 asciilifeform the unquenchable hatred of the elliots for d00d who had some sort of quasi-desirable sex somewhere , somehow , also , i suspect, helps
18:15 mircea_popescu i can't imagine who'd seriously claim fucking teen's offensive ; but i can certainly see the schadenfreunde.
18:16 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: who ? all the wizened derps, starting with that defrocked general, and all the way down to typical ameri-konsoomer, the one who gets to maybe see cuntlips when he's 'been good' to picket fence wife and bought her n-th house
18:17 asciilifeform 'puritan ethic' or how did they call it.
18:17 mircea_popescu i suppose.
18:17 mircea_popescu you mean these are on social media ?
18:17 asciilifeform castration cult rose up in old europistan, french, spanish, tried to stomp it out, failed, y'know the rest
18:19 asciilifeform ( or if you like, castration cult rose up in rome, they tried to ddt, but... ) lol
18:21 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: it's the 1 thing ameritards all seem to agree on. gun, dope, 'illegal' finance, etc cases, sometimes jury nullifies. but 'fucked 17yo? 20 to life' seems to be solidly a-ok by typical ameri-idjit
18:22 asciilifeform they see it as righteous dekulakization.
18:23 asciilifeform i actually have a d00d, at the outer foggy reaches of my l2, who did 5y for 17yo.
18:23 asciilifeform iirc jury deliberated for all of 10 seconds.
18:24 asciilifeform in usa.
18:24 asciilifeform !#s cracking the furry safe
18:24 a111 0 results for "cracking the furry safe", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=cracking%20the%20furry%20safe
18:24 asciilifeform hm.
18:25 asciilifeform ^ su had ~similar article in penal code, and was called this by typical zeks.
18:25 * trinque suspects the ritual is about avoiding sexual imprinting at a critical age
18:25 asciilifeform trinque: well yes, gotta keep up the production of nedeflorenas somewhow
18:25 trinque anyone who had clingy teenaged girlfriends growing up oughta have same data
18:25 asciilifeform considering that usg apparatus runs ~100% on them at this point
18:26 trinque then they can enter 20s hateful, emotionally damaged, etc
18:26 asciilifeform trinque: aha, gotta clerk doj with these, they're primo material
18:28 asciilifeform phunphakt, this is one of those 'national seekoority' things they claim extraterritoriality on -- fuck a 17.99999yo in paris, bang, you're assange
18:29 mircea_popescu you know, ftr, the case there was under 17.
18:29 asciilifeform was it ? i dun specifically recall.
18:30 asciilifeform i dun see how the exact constant makes a practical diff tho
18:30 asciilifeform ( wonder, does saudi subject lose his head if it gets out that he went to london and had a whiskey ? )
18:33 BingoBoingo Anyways, because Bush and Obama buried http://trilema.com/2013/the-pulizer-prostitute/#selection-95.0-95.405 it stands that Podesta just might get cuffed around the time of the 2020 Iowa primary
18:34 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: at this rate i fully expect that he, clitler, and the rest, will succumb to old age long before they see so much as a fine
18:35 BingoBoingo What, after packing the courts and other appointables through 2019 old clown man isn't going to hammer the re-election?
18:35 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: only pantsuit-approved folx get appointed, recall.
18:36 asciilifeform ( they have this 'confirmations' thing )
18:37 BingoBoingo That's what the current 80's Party Groping fight generating all the noise right now is about. Pantsuit stretching to beat/delay a Trump nominee on parlimentary procedure.
18:42 mircea_popescu saudi subject loses head if caught with diet pills.
18:43 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo seems rather likely.
18:44 BingoBoingo Latest is the Girl testifies Thursday morning or never. Confirmation vot has to happen at arbitray time in the afternoon or the hearing have to start over because of rules wank
18:47 deedbot http://bimbo.club/?p=25 << Bimbo.Club - Time wounds all heels
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19:18 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: what's a 'diet pill' anyway ? is it simply euphemism for ??? synthetic dope 'not banned in usgreich yet'
19:18 asciilifeform ( in the spirit of the old 'bath salts' thing )
19:28 BingoBoingo Yeah, generally ephedrine sorta stimulants
19:30 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: hm, i thought these long ago verboten in reich
19:31 BingoBoingo Well, its a big family of chemicals
19:31 BingoBoingo In US this probably means now Caffeine + mystery kicker
19:31 asciilifeform ( in usgistan proper, they even have an 'analogues act' )
19:31 asciilifeform aa.
19:32 asciilifeform sounds like one of those dopes that is 'its own punishment', like krokodil
19:33 Mocky usg dun care about ephedrine. i ordered from canadian pharmacy, contents printed on package
19:33 asciilifeform lol!
19:33 * asciilifeform had nfi
19:34 asciilifeform last i recall, snot-nose pills were removed from shelves because 'ephedrine, and somebody could methylate it!' , in mid-2000s
19:34 Mocky indeed so.
19:35 BingoBoingo That's pseudoephedrine, but yeah. A bit slow in USG
19:35 Mocky i wanted to try it. was dealing with a weight problem
19:36 asciilifeform in '80s su, there was a period when undergrads 'rediscovered' meth, on own power, as ephedrine was openly sold by the litre 'for asthmatic'
19:36 asciilifeform very peculiarly by ameri-lights, there was no 'dope market', 100% of the eaters made own
19:37 BingoBoingo Mocky: How are your preparations for Qatar going?
19:37 asciilifeform spread like a lolcat meme, and mostly vanished away as the old students died away, perestroika 'modernity' took hold and brought manufactured dopes
19:39 Mocky feels like a mad dash with only two weeks before lift off BingoBoingo. new luggage arrived today.
19:39 BingoBoingo Cool
19:40 asciilifeform Mocky: out of curiosity, from what didja study
19:40 asciilifeform ( see earlier subthread, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-23#1852991 )
19:40 a111 Logged on 2018-09-23 16:14 asciilifeform: i'm going from a very vintage brit b00k, with very flavourful examples, e.g. 'donkey is poor man's horse', 'i killed the man whose uncle killed my father', 'to be killed is the noblest death', etc in this spirit
19:40 BingoBoingo Mocky: Remember if you have any questions that I did live in a travel accomodation for more than half a year.
19:41 Mocky asciilifeform, a brit book, but prolly less vintage: J.R. Smart '86
19:41 Mocky among a few others
19:42 asciilifeform Mocky: the item in $thread, btw, was by one a. s. tritton , 1943
19:45 asciilifeform d00d also had a number of items re islamic theology, schisms, etc. but none of it locatable from my perch
19:52 Mocky BingoBoingo, thx, I'm sure i'll have questions aplenty
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20:46 BingoBoingo Anyways, got your workstation carrying setup all picked out?
20:49 Mocky yeah, laptop in a laptop bag. has been my primary workstation for some years now. except not packing the 43in monitor!
20:50 asciilifeform Mocky: hey, at least you dun have the pain of mircea_popescu , who left a whole trinitron behind in old world
20:50 asciilifeform !#s trinitron
20:50 a111 40 results for "trinitron", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=trinitron
20:51 Mocky i haven't done trinitron in like 12 years.
20:52 Mocky lappy screen is 4k. overkill honestly for a 15 inch
20:52 Mocky unless ur a hunchback i suppose
20:52 asciilifeform Mocky: trinitron was (imho) the acme of display
20:54 asciilifeform not really equaled since ( tho supposedly the recent led panels just about reproduce the old crt phosphours -- but i cannot bring myself to buy, they suffer some 1980s-esque 'burn in' )
20:54 Mocky great yeah if you hate desk space, lift weights and like hefty curvature
20:54 asciilifeform how often you lift yer display.
20:54 Mocky don't get me wrong, i loved mine back in the day
20:54 asciilifeform ( and besides, 21 in. thing was, what , 80 pounds, nuffin to write home about mass-wise )
20:55 Mocky and that hum, lol
20:56 asciilifeform i actually had one of those strap belt things, for carrying the thing
20:57 Mocky yeah, not that heavy really just awkward to move solo
20:57 asciilifeform https://www.geargrip.com/images/crt_iso.gif << similar item
20:58 asciilifeform made the chore quite a bit lighter
20:58 Mocky oh nice, first time seeing anything like that
20:58 asciilifeform Mocky: these used to be sold in comp-related shops errywhere
20:58 asciilifeform there's one for towers also
20:59 asciilifeform ( with tower it is much easier to dispense with this, you can bolt an ordinary desk drawer steel handle to most of'em in a few min )
21:00 asciilifeform i traditionally have wheels on my towers, also worx great.
21:00 Mocky i guess you don't need to stack them
21:00 asciilifeform lol why would i stack'em.
21:01 asciilifeform ( and if you must, you stack horizontally, wheels dun hurt )
21:02 * asciilifeform brb,meat
21:04 Mocky multiple trinitrons on the desk, multiple towers unstacked or stacked horizontally. sounds like asciilifeform has square footage to spare
21:12 BingoBoingo To be fair to asciilifeform, when he travelled to Montevideo he kept his personal kit very compact in order to favor cargo
21:14 Mocky i have a bag to check, but not even sure at this point if it will be half full.
21:22 BingoBoingo That's too be expected. At this point consider looking at what will be lucrative to bring, and try to find what simply isn't available there
~ 22 minutes ~
21:45 asciilifeform meanwhile, in entomo-lulz: readerz will recall, the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-18#1835666 'prophecy' bore out into http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-17#1850785 самокритика-fest. nao, for next lul in series :
21:45 a111 Logged on 2018-07-18 00:10 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-17#1835536 << such a fucking injun. how, just HOW does one get so fucking stupid. "jwz" amirite, "he only wanted to". this existence is too burdensome for the likes of special cunthead.
21:45 a111 Logged on 2018-09-17 13:40 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: torvalds's thing reads like the zinoviev&kamenev 'confessions'
21:47 asciilifeform linus formally surrendered, and nao there is, as i gather, auditions being held, for who will get to be his new bob beck politruk;
21:48 asciilifeform and, first auditioner, apparently, none other than old judas esr :
21:48 asciilifeform https://lkml.org/lkml/2018/9/23/212 ( http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-17#1850847 )
21:48 a111 Logged on 2018-09-17 14:14 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: linus's kernel was the last remaining 'open sores' item that was 'usable from upstream' afaik.
21:48 asciilifeform grr
21:48 asciilifeform https://archive.is/40C97 << correct link
21:50 asciilifeform tldr : d00d trying to organize some sort of peasant rebellion, to mop up what remains of the +ev contributors, under guise of 'protest'
21:55 asciilifeform https://archive.is/qQDUD << detail re 'killswitch' lul.
21:56 asciilifeform 'Contributors: You were promised something, you laboured for that promise, and now the promise has become a lie. You have remedies available to you now, as-well as in the close future .' etc
22:01 Mocky 'Several users on 4chan’s technology board speculate that Theo is targeted first because he famously resisted an Intel backdoor.'
22:02 asciilifeform i expect either a) whole thing is made to silently evaporate , via the usual means b) gpl is formally unwound by usg 'courts', so rathead et al can carry along. i dun see a c) ...
22:06 asciilifeform ianal, but per current usg copyrasty system, copyrights in fact stay with authors, unless sold ( apriori, as in 'work for hire', or post -- if sold, or reassigned by idiot for phree, as e.g. rms demands of authors )
22:08 asciilifeform so in principle afaik yes folx can demand to get their coad pulled from sjw.linux. nao, what practical result will be, no prizes for guessing.
22:09 asciilifeform ( spoiler : either 0, see above, or >0, in which case microshit gets an even bigger crater than it originally paid for )
22:11 asciilifeform it is interesting to consider diff b/w esr and linus. esr judased a thing he had 0 part in baking, and wanked for 20y on the periphery of. linus on oher hand merrily fucked not only the folx who were dumb enuff to invest 25y into baking with him, but... own life's work
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22:13 asciilifeform colour me thick, but i fully expected he'd take cyanide publicly before descending to this kind of bottom.
22:14 Mocky i noticed blackmail conspiracy theory at that link, maybe consorted with 17.99 yo
22:14 asciilifeform and ftr i dun buy mircea_popescu's 'was always a shit' hypothesis. d00d by any possible measure 'by the fruits' was NOT always-shit.
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22:15 asciilifeform was 'silent like partizan'. until day x.
22:16 asciilifeform Mocky: it isnt clear to me what sort of blackmail could compare with the surrender. say they put him in electric chair, for killing kennedy, what of it. see also http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-23#1852995 .
22:16 a111 Logged on 2018-09-23 16:17 asciilifeform: 'die not the straw death!'(tm)(r)(odin)
22:18 asciilifeform then again, for all i know, d00d is already trooly and properly dead, and the surrender was penned for him. ( btw anybody located a signed copy ? and what's the most recent signed linus material anyway ? )
22:19 Mocky "NOT always-shit" != "willing to go to the chair still"
22:20 asciilifeform could argue that he already begun quisling when he permitted 'linux foundation' ( sponsor of such 'luminaries' as gavin ) to make use of his trademark
22:20 asciilifeform !#s linux foundation
22:20 a111 44 results for "linux foundation", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=linux%20foundation
22:21 asciilifeform back then was still possible to explain as act of stupidity, tho
22:22 Mocky I have nfi, never followed closely
22:23 asciilifeform Mocky: i'm not aware of any public discussion re subj to follow, outside of the l0gz
22:23 asciilifeform there appeared out of the usg depths, this squid, 'linux foundation', sponsored at various times erry possible scamola, prb, later gavinisms, tor, etc
22:24 asciilifeform linus in principle had the right to sue for immediate desist of use of his trademark. did not do it.
22:25 asciilifeform ( whether could have won, or not, whoknows, usg 'court' is approx a bank balance contest. but did not even TRY )
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22:28 asciilifeform btw upstack peanut gallery thread has coupla interesting nuggets : apparently vultures already circling, professional politruks already publishing their projected ~expenses against linux~ for their 'service' of 'administering code of conduct'
22:29 asciilifeform delish, the smell of fresh corpse, to these, apparently.
22:30 asciilifeform i imagine a maggot's idea of heaven, this, the fresh meat with no prev maggot crew.
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22:43 Mocky in other news, Qatar becomes First Gulf State to Offer Expat Permanent Residency http://archive.is/8BXOX
22:44 Mocky but only if lived there for 20 years and among 100 'blessed' applicants per year
22:44 Mocky also apparently lifting exit visa requirement
22:45 asciilifeform 'Qatar is abolishing the exit visa required before expatriate workers are allowed to leave the country' << interesting
22:45 asciilifeform i recall a subj thrd
22:46 asciilifeform 'those born abroad would need to have lived there 20 years' << bit of a downer
22:49 asciilifeform Mocky: makes e.g. ru citizenship look easy.
22:51 asciilifeform ( 5y iirc )
22:51 Mocky seems like a play at keeping those who are already 'lifers', but unofficially so
22:51 asciilifeform 20y puts it in the weight category of jp, lichtenstein, swiss.
22:51 asciilifeform Mocky: likely
23:01 Mocky ha, "However, the new decree stipulates that if a permanent resident leaves Qatar for more than six months, the interior minister could withdraw from the residency"
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~ 38 minutes ~
23:40 BingoBoingo They seem to have the usual "marry a qualified local get a permit" deal
23:42 mircea_popescu o wow, logexplosion
23:47 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-24#1853417 << then people want to talk about how "you can never trust bitcoin operators, always will split and run".
23:47 a111 Logged on 2018-09-24 02:11 asciilifeform: it is interesting to consider diff b/w esr and linus. esr judased a thing he had 0 part in baking, and wanked for 20y on the periphery of. linus on oher hand merrily fucked not only the folx who were dumb enuff to invest 25y into baking with him, but... own life's work
23:48 mircea_popescu somehow i expect the linux bonfire will not be included in the list of http://trilema.com/2012/and-another-one-bites-the-dust-bitmarketeu/
23:49 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-24#1853420 << i re-read his early announcements re nascent linux (publicly, quoted here) and was not impressed. no, not always shit. always manalone. this DOES NOT work.
23:49 a111 Logged on 2018-09-24 02:14 asciilifeform: and ftr i dun buy mircea_popescu's 'was always a shit' hypothesis. d00d by any possible measure 'by the fruits' was NOT always-shit.
23:49 mircea_popescu for the exact reason on display : even the most heady, hardy etc still get old and stupid eventually. and later is actually worse than early.
23:51 mircea_popescu anyway. i comiserate, terrible days for asciilifeform ; erryone in his pre-wot just keeps turning shitty.
23:51 asciilifeform eh not exactly sudden, this death
23:52 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-24#1853434 << importantly, did not even do the item which was all that was needed "there are some muppets out there misusing my trademark, they're scammers and do not deal with them"
23:52 a111 Logged on 2018-09-24 02:25 asciilifeform: ( whether could have won, or not, whoknows, usg 'court' is approx a bank balance contest. but did not even TRY )
23:52 mircea_popescu make it a toxic item in short order.
23:52 asciilifeform ( i specifically foretold , e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-17#1835536 )
23:52 a111 Logged on 2018-07-17 13:00 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-17#1835518 << linus is not immortal, and i expect that he will lose control of kernel -- just as he stupidly lost control of his trademark to 'linux foundation' (y'know, with gavin on staff) -- even before dies
23:53 mircea_popescu somewhere someone (lafond maybe ?) explains the problem of "conservative" or "republican" or w/e, johnny cash style pantsuit fucktard, whereby he's "lawyering up" in his mind, and can't curbstomp nigger at first sign of potential disobedience. "oh, he just asked me the time FOR DIFFERENT REASONS ALTOGETHER, this isn't LEGITIMATE REASON to bas his skull in"
23:54 mircea_popescu kinda the problem of freebased i-cant-believe-hes-not-republican, or in asciilifeform 's parlance "partizans" : they have some complicated nonsense about "justifiable use of force" bla bla bla, can't simply bash in heads who "did nothing to you" etc.
23:54 Mocky BingoBoingo, yeah but even if you could find one of the ~30k marriage age females (among 3.7M pop), and convince her to endure the social downgrade and forgo citizenship for any children, MUST then convince bride's father & suiter then converts to islam!
23:55 BingoBoingo Makes the 20 years look easier doesn't it
23:55 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i suspect, in these, simple cowardice, they aimt eager to move out of the mental universe where 'law and order' and into the lafond planet where earthly carcass actually finds itself
23:55 Mocky lol!
23:55 mircea_popescu and they are stubbornly stupid enough so that neither display of the correct behaviour (say in the celebrated http://trilema.com/2014/the-public-burning-of-bob-beck/ ) nor the theoretical explanation of the methodology (at leastr in http://trilema.com/2014/the-logical-impossibility-and-the-moral-untenability-of-forgiveness/ ) clicks with the shit in their heads
23:56 asciilifeform i still dun fully grasp the process whereby a theo 'marries' a bobbeck. what's the draw, exactly
23:57 mircea_popescu aaanyway, whatever. the wages of sin are death.
23:57 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i quoted the ur item here once, i think. was schmuck on "wikipedia admin board" going to "help out" unless "anyone asks him to stop".
23:57 mircea_popescu they just show up, you understand ? remember the item which set the moron bit on djb for me ? some "vance" moron ?
23:57 mircea_popescu these people simply can not crush a cuntbug.
23:58 mircea_popescu exactly for the reason described, "did nothing to me" etc.
23:58 asciilifeform and from this, goes to have power of attourney and trademark rights? bit of a climb eh
23:58 mircea_popescu heir projected ~expenses against linux~ for their 'service' of 'administering code of conduct' << thjis is all the us ever is anymore.
23:58 mircea_popescu asciilifeform hey, they got 20 years to slowly do it.
23:59 mircea_popescu but -- yes. the us never had a "leader" other than this sort of scum, slowly worming itself into position. not in the past century, which is to say -- not since it stopped mattering.
23:59 asciilifeform reminds of old-school 'grifters', the kind that marry 85yo heiress
23:59 mircea_popescu precisely what it is.
23:59 mircea_popescu and the principle is so very celebrated there, they even have it enshrined as the ~only basis of senate
00:00 mircea_popescu they go so far as to say "do not vote for this guy, who is new, vote for the known-corrupt-asshole HE HAS SENIORITY"
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