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00:05 assbot xanthyos +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
00:06 kakobrekla !up xanthyos
00:06 kakobrekla hi.
00:07 xanthyos hi
00:07 danielpbarron !down xanthyos
00:07 kakobrekla hm?
00:08 kakobrekla !s xanthyos
00:08 assbot 94 results for 'xanthyos' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=xanthyos
00:08 assbot xanthyos +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
00:08 kakobrekla you two have issues ?
00:09 assbot xanthyos +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
00:09 kakobrekla !up xanthyos
00:09 xanthyos he thinks i'm going to embarass him in here
00:09 xanthyos because he's a cunt and he likes to keep a facade in here to impress mp
00:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31300 @ 0.00063815 = 19.9741 BTC [+] {2}
00:09 kakobrekla lolk
00:10 xanthyos ;;rate danielpbarron -1 fickle with his friends, uses the bible to justify being disloyal
00:10 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating for user danielpbarron has changed from 8 to -1.
00:10 xanthyos danielpbarron: tell your drug dealer friend i want him to settle his debt with me immediately.
00:11 xanthyos i'm cutting ties with both of you
00:11 danielpbarron hm, ok
00:12 xanthyos now i feel awkward, and i'm sorry for disrupting things.
00:15 BingoBoingo !up xanthyos
00:16 BingoBoingo !up nineX_
00:16 BingoBoingo !up apheleon
00:16 xanthyos didn't feel comfortable staying on danielpbarron 's server anymore
00:16 xanthyos fastest way to cut ties digitally
00:17 xanthyos ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:8ab73bf3e1298b53394a1ec3d5aacc63499b1dc8d0a0eb2a5681b079
00:17 gribble You are now authenticated for user xanthyos with key B62E7295387001E9
00:25 xanthyos hm seems i've been banned from -otc, guess the scammers in there are looking to preempt something
00:35 mircea_popescu <xanthyos> because he's a cunt and he likes to keep a facade in here to impress mp << all teh dramaz ?
00:36 xanthyos being a cunt helps him be an effective derp reporter though.
00:36 * nubbins` yawns, stretches
00:36 nubbins` tell us more
00:37 mircea_popescu http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/08/22/chilean_paper_says_microsoft_crushed_local_open_source_bill/
00:37 assbot Claim: Microsoft Alt-F4'd Chilean government open-source install bid The Register
00:38 xanthyos i got the anger out and now all i have is shame.
00:39 nubbins` sweet
00:39 mircea_popescu lol funny how the emotional balance works.
00:40 nubbins` torpor and catharsis
00:41 mircea_popescu !up keows
00:41 keows hello
00:42 keows is BTCJAM bad for bitcoin?
00:42 keows will the WOT prevail?
00:42 mircea_popescu depends whose.
00:43 keows i will send you a penny in bitcoin if you say KEOWS
00:43 keows mircea_popescu:
00:44 mircea_popescu wait wut ?
00:45 mircea_popescu !s Slappy Squirrel
00:45 assbot 0 results for 'Slappy Squirrel' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=Slappy+Squirrel
00:45 asciilifeform http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/08/21/mh370_disaster_cyber_snooping
00:45 assbot Chinese hackers spied on investigators of Flight MH370 - report The Register
00:45 mircea_popescu well in that case...
00:45 mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mdqv5xIsFLM
00:45 assbot Slappy Squirrel - Who's on Stage? - YouTube
00:45 asciilifeform run moar winblows.
00:45 cazalla ThickAsThieves: cazalla, is it fibromyalgia? >> I've been told it's somatization but i don't know tbh, i've exhausted whatever medical investigation i've been sent for, cardiologist said whatever it is, not my heart, neuro said whatever it is, not neurological, never tried cannabis for it, doesn't agree with me anyway so not an option
00:45 keows i will send you one penny worth of bitcoins if you simply say
00:45 keows KEOWS
00:46 keows mircea_popescu:
00:46 nubbins` a penny, sweet
00:46 mircea_popescu "This was well-crafted malware that antivirus programs couldn't detect. It was a very sophisticated attack," Wahab added. << "it didn't come with a warning box to click on"
00:47 mircea_popescu keows keep it.
00:49 keows at first i read "keows it up"
00:49 keows and i go happy
00:49 keows then i read again and im sad panda
00:50 ThickAsThieves my cat just brought my wife's sports bra to me from across the house, waddling its front legs as it dragged in front in its mouth
00:51 mircea_popescu apparently cat thinks you're developing nicely.
00:51 ThickAsThieves lol
00:51 mircea_popescu asciilifeform btw, left handle a comment blasting him about his "baseline expectation" bs.
00:58 BingoBoingo !s handle
00:58 assbot 640 results for 'handle' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=handle
01:04 BingoBoingo http://www.fsi-language-courses.org/Content.php
01:04 assbot FSI Language Courses - Home
01:04 asciilifeform lol
01:06 BingoBoingo http://www.fsi-language-courses.org/Courses/Romanian/FSI%20-%20Romanian%20Reference%20Grammar%20-%20Student%20Text.pdf << Crutch, not a perfect one
01:07 asciilifeform herr handle, incidentally, is employed as (not a secret) a lawyer.
01:07 asciilifeform though, afaik, not the variety that argues cases.
01:08 * asciilifeform had some very entertaining conversations with the fellow about peculiarities of american law, as practiced
01:10 mircea_popescu "Your content isn't worth much to begin with if it goes down in value as it gets shared." this is an interesting concept.
01:11 asciilifeform presumably not counting the degenerate cases (e.g. private keys) ?
01:14 penguirker New blog post: http://contravex.com/2014/08/24/for-states-small-is-beautiful/
01:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 668 @ 0.00090151 = 0.6022 BTC [+] {4}
01:22 mircea_popescu well secrets != content.
01:26 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: maximizing the market is not a valid goal of economics any more than maximizing body weight is not a valid goal of medicine. << lulz
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01:54 BingoBoingo !up RagnarsBitch
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03:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13547 @ 0.00063802 = 8.6433 BTC [-]
03:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24200 @ 0.00063942 = 15.474 BTC [+] {2}
03:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 878 @ 0.0009889 = 0.8683 BTC [-]
03:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 98 @ 0.01009999 = 0.9898 BTC [-]
03:25 RagnarDanneskjol !up BingoBoingo
03:26 BingoBoingo lol
03:26 RagnarDanneskjol hehe
03:31 BingoBoingo http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--EnQZWhaN--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/ad6ifs8pape4nzyyowu2.gif << Yasiel Puig turns a double play into a triple play
03:34 RagnarDanneskjol wow very nice
03:40 BingoBoingo http://www.gomerblog.com/2014/01/uterine-cord/ << related http://trilema.com/2012/lolvacute-pentru-posteritate/
03:40 assbot Baby Finds His Umbilical Cord, Passes Out - Medical Satire - GomerBlog
03:40 assbot Lolvacute, pentru posteritate pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
03:52 BingoBoingo http://www.gomerblog.com/2014/02/fertilized-egg/ << related http://trilema.com/2012/amir-taaki-has-done-and-continues-to-do-huge-disservice-to-anyone-serious-involved-in-bitcoin/
03:52 assbot Fertilized Hipster Egg Decides Uterus Just not my style, Moves to Abdomen - Medical Satire - GomerBlog
03:52 assbot Amir Taaki has done, and continues to do, huge disservice to anyone serious involved in Bitcoin. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
04:03 RagnarDanneskjol hmm
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05:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17956 @ 0.00063984 = 11.489 BTC [+] {3}
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05:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 66 @ 0.01069888 = 0.7061 BTC [+]
05:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 60 @ 0.01069888 = 0.6419 BTC [+]
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06:04 mircea_popescu ;;later tell jborkl http://www.bcoinnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/sharkbite-300x187.jpg << you know those bitcoin vignettes added on pictures would look a lot better if they were on transparent background.
06:04 gribble The operation succeeded.
06:17 * fluffypony needs coffee
06:17 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes re your article, there was at least another scam derpopoulous pushed. can't seem to recall wtf it was tho.
06:18 mircea_popescu fluffypony i'm curious what you'd be like if there was no coffee for a week or two.
06:18 fluffypony when I go hiking I don't take coffee with
06:18 fluffypony Otter Trail 10 day hike was fine
06:18 mircea_popescu aok
06:19 fluffypony it's different when you're out there and active and not staring at a screen all day
06:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14155 @ 0.00064104 = 9.0739 BTC [+]
06:23 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo lol the past! "Sep 04 22:37:31 * ciuciu (~chatzilla@96.127.204.194) has joined #bitcoin-assets"
06:23 mircea_popescu !s from:ciuciu
06:23 assbot 0 results for 'from:ciuciu' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from%3Aciuciu
06:23 BingoBoingo I don't think he's been on since public logs
06:24 mircea_popescu what did he defraud his "numerous investors" with ? some sort of mining farm was it
06:25 BingoBoingo Mining, a bond? Twas before I really started taking notes.
06:25 mircea_popescu yeah something like that.
06:25 mircea_popescu "The Bitcoin community is not just overwhelmingly larger but of overwhelmingly better quality as well. Bitcoin is surrounded by real entrepreneurs working hard to create new and useful services for Bitcoin. Altcoins are surrounded by loud-mouthed pretenders with irrational hopes of duplicating Nakamoto's success."
06:26 mircea_popescu krawisz stomping heads
06:26 fluffypony lol
06:26 fluffypony although, Bitcoin "entrepreneurs" aren't much better
06:27 mircea_popescu well obviously everything will be surrounded by a bunch of tims.
06:27 BingoBoingo Back then it didn't much matter what people called their own things as those labels were rarely accurate
06:27 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo quite.
06:28 mircea_popescu more a function of what had been on tv that week / what the person picked up from google finance.
06:28 mircea_popescu hey have developed a series of fallacies capable of fooling newcomers into joining them, but they are all disingenuous.
06:28 mircea_popescu Thus, the altcoin communities are not just embarrassing, but dangerous. Desperately wishing to be taken seriously despite having nothing worthwhile to offer, they will say absolutely anything to convince other people to join them. They persist in saying things easily refuted by economic logic, common sense, or verifiable facts.
06:28 abathingape http://connect.customer.mheducation.com/wp-content/themes/mhc/a/i/more-As-and-Bs-Lower_w_Numbers-72dpi.png
06:28 abathingape lol?
06:28 mircea_popescu well dangerous, but this is a good thing.
06:28 mircea_popescu a world without danger is not a world.
06:29 abathingape homework in america for colleges is becoming pay to use,
06:29 abathingape its like $80 a class
06:29 abathingape http://connect.customer.mheducation.com/
06:29 assbot McGraw-Hill Connect
06:29 mircea_popescu abathingape someone should make a "fuck your girlfriend" service.
06:30 mircea_popescu collect money from well to do white people, trick aspirational hispanos into working for free to "prove themselves", show a profit.
06:31 BingoBoingo ;;ticker
06:31 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 505.01, Best ask: 505.03, Bid-ask spread: 0.02000, Last trade: 505.01, 24 hour volume: 6183.65763719, 24 hour low: 496.0, 24 hour high: 515.95, 24 hour vwap: 505.029295457
06:32 mircea_popescu sadly the guy has a bitcoin address as a coinbase wallet and a pgp but no wot. wtf.
06:35 BingoBoingo %t
06:35 atcbot [X-BT] Bid: 175 Ask: 221 Last Price: 170 24h-Vol: 0k High: 170 Low: 170 VWAP: 169
06:36 mircea_popescu scam.
06:36 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2010/familia-traditionala-versus-harem-studiu-comparativ/ << fro teh romanian scholars.
06:36 assbot Familia traditionala versus harem - studiu comparativ pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
06:37 mircea_popescu !up NumberSix_
06:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8479 @ 0.0006366 = 5.3977 BTC [-]
06:42 mircea_popescu Apocalyptic: I'm amazed at the trust people put into PoS, but then again after seeing the investment section of bitcointalk it isn't that surprising << makes two of us.
06:43 mircea_popescu the best construction i can put on it is, "hey, the whiteknighting virgin geeks have finally found a way to express their usual "a guy that really loves and respects you and cares" derpage into bitcoin form"
06:44 mircea_popescu asciilifeform: re: nail polish poison detector << how many cases of dysentery from the finger dips. << i would imagine you dribble rather than dip.
06:44 BingoBoingo "There is no principle difference between the ideal treatment for slaves captured in war and of children born in traditional families, both are people chained to their captors by some imagined debt, of which they personally have not acquiesced." << Interesting, if this is a roughly worthwhile translation.
06:45 mircea_popescu o wow look at this poor bluemeanie dude, he loves me all over the log then i come in and am like all mean to him.
06:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 69 @ 0.011 = 0.759 BTC [+]
06:46 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo you got most of it flawlessly, but the intro is a bitch
06:46 mircea_popescu Nu exista in principiu o diferenta de tratament ideal < tratament ideal is, "ideal treatment", in the sense of normative, prescriptive treatment.
06:46 BingoBoingo Ah
06:47 mircea_popescu "nu exista in principiu" means there doesnt exist (nu exista) for absolute reasons (in principiu, roughly, following from principle, for reasons derived from prime principles)
06:47 mircea_popescu so, "the ideal treatment of one does not differ from the other for reasons that are derived from prime principles".
06:48 mircea_popescu the point being that while you're welcome to disagree in practice, your doing so is arbitrariety not reason.
06:50 mircea_popescu asciilifeform: exponentially difficult << 'learn' for translating a diplomat - perhaps hard; reading articles in your armchair slowly - not so hard << the diplomat in question doth protest.
06:50 mircea_popescu (you meant live dubbing didn't you)
06:55 BingoBoingo "In net opposition to this bizarre and at least in appearance sick model of social organization, the harem shows some clear advantages."
06:55 mircea_popescu some ample cleavages.
06:55 mircea_popescu !up Niko__
06:56 mircea_popescu the log is so self referrential omfg. first there's http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-08-2014#806551 then there's http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-08-2014#806604 sometimes it feels like it just works on its own.
06:56 assbot Logged on 23-08-2014 19:26:23; BlueMeanie4: hey if the mod is going to silence me for no voiced reason mid conversation- why bother?
06:56 assbot Logged on 23-08-2014 20:11:27; BingoBoingo: https://twitter.com/lisawomersley/status/499771410751815682
06:57 * BingoBoingo still has yet to recieve spam from the SEC/CIA/NSA/DHS/DEA/NYDSFMOGWTFBBQ asking him to read Trilema for them...
06:58 mircea_popescu how could they possibly trust you ?
06:59 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: I have WoT! as some people from other channels might suggest...
06:59 mircea_popescu you don't understand how the government works. it'll never pay you to do something you're already interested in.
07:00 Niko__ greetings
07:00 BingoBoingo Oh, that part of the problem
07:01 mircea_popescu ello Niko__
07:01 BingoBoingo Welcome Niko__
07:01 mircea_popescu who're you ?
07:02 Niko__ someone who has enough knowledge to himself in trouble
07:02 BingoBoingo Ah allegedly I myself into trouble all the time
07:02 mircea_popescu An organist playing old Stork had a prick that could hold a small fork, and between obbligatos he'd munch on tomatoes to keep up his strength while at work.
07:02 Niko__ lol
07:04 Niko__ thats one dextrous dick
07:07 mircea_popescu !up wallet42
07:08 mircea_popescu fun fact re the old stork : milton berle was banned there. along with bogart.
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07:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11699 @ 0.00064207 = 7.5116 BTC [+]
07:27 mircea_popescu Once, while in attendance at a party, a guest made a comment about rape, and Bankhead reportedly replied, "I was raped in our driveway when I was eleven. You know darling, it was a terrible experience because we had all that gravel."
07:28 mircea_popescu now why do i think "all about eve";s margo is drawn after bankhead ?
07:31 thestringpuller ;;ticker
07:31 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 501.4, Best ask: 504.27, Bid-ask spread: 2.87000, Last trade: 504.33, 24 hour volume: 6672.75954235, 24 hour low: 496.79, 24 hour high: 515.95, 24 hour vwap: 504.895097955
07:31 thestringpuller !last m s.mpoe
07:31 assbot Last trade for S.MPOE on MPEX was at 0.00064207 BTC [+]
07:33 mircea_popescu In 1933, Bankhead nearly died following a five-hour emergency hysterectomy due to venereal disease. Only 70 pounds (32 kg) when she left the hospital, she stoically said to her doctor, "Don't think this has taught me a lesson!"
07:33 mircea_popescu apparently they took out her largest part.
07:34 BingoBoingo It ended https://atc.waroflife.com/gow/25/
07:34 assbot Game 25 - Death 7104 Life 2896 Year 1000 - War of Life
07:34 mircea_popescu %d
07:34 atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 239819.71 in 1739 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -87.23
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08:12 fluffypony my ANX debit cards arrived
08:16 punkman fluffypony: how much paperwork did it take?
08:16 punkman also, is their exchange any good?
08:16 fluffypony not much, normal exchange verification stuff
08:16 fluffypony plus they posted me a letter with a code to confirm my address on file
08:17 fluffypony it seems decent - based out of Hong Kong, so that's their primary market
08:17 fluffypony the cards are backed by a bank in Poland
08:17 fluffypony mBank SA
08:21 punkman interesting "When a buy or sell order is submitted, the ANXBTC platform receives matching orders from an extensive number of buyers and sellers who have registered as part of the ANX Open Dealer Network. "
08:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15200 @ 0.00063931 = 9.7175 BTC [-] {2}
08:27 RagnarDanneskjol ANX is good people. I know them personally. I'm pissed someone else got their card before me
08:34 BingoBoingo ;;ticker
08:35 BingoBoingo ;;lasers
08:35 gribble ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!*
08:35 wywialm fluffypony, is there any info on the mBank backing the ANX card?
08:36 fluffypony wywialm: I actually have an account with them from a couple of years back, they're Polish
08:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17700 @ 0.00063661 = 11.268 BTC [-] {2}
08:37 wywialm I know that mBank is Polish :) however, is it official that mBank backs this ANX card?
08:39 BingoBoingo Oh, the things Jimmothy posts when he isn't persecuting mircea_popescu for being European https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=521520.msg8507845#msg8507845
08:39 assbot [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs
08:41 punkman think I've seen lots of people resell mbank debit cards
08:42 punkman usually "anonymous"
08:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.293997 = 1.47 BTC [-]
08:43 punkman fluffypony: if you already had an account with them, what's the benefit of the anx card?
08:43 fluffypony punkman: I didn't realise that it was provided by mBank
08:44 fluffypony this was just for fun and to have something lying around that I can load BTC on to and swipe if I really want to
08:46 wywialm the ANX card is not anonymous, is it?
08:46 fluffypony wywialm you have to verify your account with ANX
08:46 fluffypony but the card is in their name
08:46 fluffypony and verification is pretty loose
08:47 wywialm thanks for the info
08:52 BingoBoingo %ob
08:52 atcbot 16k@250 2k@245 43k@221 | 95k@175 15k@170 125k@165
08:59 thestringpuller ;;ticker
08:59 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 502.65, Best ask: 504.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.35000, Last trade: 502.63, 24 hour volume: 6750.38002864, 24 hour low: 496.79, 24 hour high: 515.95, 24 hour vwap: 505.080802734
08:59 thestringpuller is ticker down?
08:59 thestringpuller oops
09:00 thestringpuller XD
09:06 BingoBoingo !up mpmcsweeney
09:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00064335 = 5.4041 BTC [+] {2}
09:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00063631 = 6.4904 BTC [-] {2}
09:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.293998 = 0.882 BTC [+]
09:39 BingoBoingo Carp in an Eastern European commercial >> http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/article/3/2/4/306324_v1.gif
09:40 BingoBoingo !up gernika
09:40 BingoBoingo Hello gernika
09:40 gernika Hi
09:42 BingoBoingo What brings you round these parts. (apologies If I've asked before, I drink)
09:42 gernika Ah. Well, I'm interested in bitcoin. Been reading the logs for a few weeks now.
09:43 nubbins` !up samO
09:43 nubbins` oh, hm
09:43 nubbins` !down Guest32652
09:43 nubbins` !up samO
09:44 samO thx nubbins`
09:44 nubbins` willkommen
09:44 BingoBoingo Cool
09:46 BingoBoingo %p
09:46 atcbot No data returned from CoinMiner.net
09:46 atcbot [PityThePool Hashrate]: 718.23 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 1.26 TH/s
09:46 thestringpuller %d
09:46 atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 240385.82 in 1737 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -87.20
09:46 thestringpuller LOL
09:47 BingoBoingo %tslb
09:47 atcbot 1 hour 0 minutes and 15 seconds
09:47 BingoBoingo It's definitely moving
09:47 BingoBoingo %t
09:47 atcbot [X-BT] Bid: 175 Ask: 221 Last Price: 170 24h-Vol: 0k High: N/A Low: N/A VWAP: N/A
09:47 thestringpuller lol whut???????
09:48 thestringpuller ;;tslb
09:48 gribble Time since last block: 41 minutes and 14 seconds
09:48 BingoBoingo Still stuck in that post dump price standoff
09:54 nubbins` woo, i've got enough aeroplan points for two round-trip tickets anywhere in north america
09:54 * nubbins` twists invisible mustache
09:55 xmj congrats
09:58 thestringpuller nubbins` wubbins
10:00 thestringpuller nubbins`: the designer will email you with a signed message
10:00 thestringpuller ;;gettrust petenineteen
10:00 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user petenineteen: Level 1: 6, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=petenineteen | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=petenineteen | Rated since: Wed Aug 20 22:28:26 2014
10:00 nubbins` tyvm for the pre-announcement 8)
10:01 thestringpuller ;;gettrust nubbins
10:01 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user nubbins: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=nubbins | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=nubbins | Rated since: never
10:04 pankkake ;;gettrust thestringpuller nubbins`
10:04 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user nubbins`: Level 1: 2, Level 2: 6 via 4 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=nubbins%60 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=nubbins%60 | Rated since: Wed Oct 16 19:58:53 2013
10:04 pankkake nubbins prime?
10:04 thestringpuller yup
10:04 pankkake or nubbins backtick
10:09 nubbins` backtick, i guess
10:09 nubbins` i'm admittedly unsure
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10:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1212 @ 0.00083001 = 1.006 BTC [-]
10:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00063564 = 4.8309 BTC [-]
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11:31 jborkl http://www.bcoinnews.com/price/ added BTC/gold to the grid and to the main price ticker
11:31 assbot Bitcoin exchange price
11:32 thestringpuller interesting jborkl
11:32 thestringpuller random question for you
11:33 jborkl sure
11:33 thestringpuller old mining hardware that becomes worthless to run as diff goes up
11:33 thestringpuller is it best to throw it away
11:33 thestringpuller or would their be a way to recycle the components in some kinda "liquidation event"?
11:33 ben_vulpes forum'll apparently buy anything.
11:33 kakobrekla yeah, you can liquidate it by throwing it in hot magma
11:33 thestringpuller LOL kakobrekla
11:33 jborkl mine is in the closet, the fpgas retained value since they could be retasked
11:34 jborkl but current gen i think trash
11:34 thestringpuller I was just wondering because I used to do IT for a company that would buy large amounts of old CPU's, and sell them to recyclers who would extract precious metals from them.
11:36 jborkl I am not sure on that one 100%, I don't think there is anything worth it
11:37 jborkl but I do not really know, just looking at the ones under my desk and they look like trash
11:37 jborkl heh
11:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22200 @ 0.0006385 = 14.1747 BTC [+]
11:38 kakobrekla ;;bc,stats
11:38 gribble Current Blocks: 317427 | Current Difficulty: 2.38446700388033E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 318527 | Next Difficulty In: 1100 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 6 hours, 29 minutes, and 46 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 25928994612.9 | Estimated Percent Change: 8.74126
11:40 thestringpuller that's so sad
11:40 thestringpuller what a waste of silicon with such a limited lifespan....
11:41 ben_vulpes <BlueMeanie4> some of these bitcoin people are reminiscint of the french revolution. for a few weeks they thought they could completely redesign the whole universe. << that party did rewrite the rules, and bitcoin'll do the same.
11:41 ben_vulpes (1500 lines behind...)
11:45 pankkake uh, if Bitcoin is the French revolution, I'm out
11:49 artifexd ;;later tell mike_c Any thoughts on why S.MPOE has fallen off a cliff?
11:49 gribble The operation succeeded.
11:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6945 @ 0.00064287 = 4.4647 BTC [+]
11:55 nubbins` http://imgur.com/R94Qmw0
11:55 assbot imgur: the simple image sharer
11:55 nubbins` ^ just arrived in the mail :D
11:56 pankkake nice
11:57 pankkake was that expensive or did no one think about buying those?
11:57 nubbins` they're very hard to find
11:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5766 @ 0.00064264 = 3.7055 BTC [-]
12:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.58037915 BTC to 14`987 shares, 10545 satoshi per share
12:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 2.54147348 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 221 satoshi per share
12:04 b00lcrap test
12:04 ben_vulpes pong
12:04 ben_vulpes ack
12:05 ben_vulpes derp
12:05 b00lcrap herp
12:06 TomServo nubbins`: Mind mentioning how/where you found it?
12:09 b00lcrap there was an Easter egg hunt?
12:11 TomServo !up Kamuela
12:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9089 @ 0.00063564 = 5.7773 BTC [-]
12:12 nubbins` TomServo, got it from another collector :D
12:14 TheNewDeal !t m s.mpoe
12:14 assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00062893 / 0.00063654 / 0.00064393 (694057 shares, 441.80 BTC), 7D: 0.00062821 / 0.00065564 / 0.00070855 (4324841 shares, 2,835.54 BTC), 30D: 0.00062821 / 0.0007684 / 0.00094217 (18819481 shares, 14,460.91 BTC)
12:14 Kamuela do you folks have a favorite crypto market?
12:15 TheNewDeal krakken
12:15 TheNewDeal it really kraks me up
12:16 kakobrekla kraken is selective scam
12:17 TheNewDeal I was reading an article the other day that the founder/owner created it after helping mark karpeles run mt gox
12:17 TheNewDeal made me chuckle
12:18 Kamuela trying to open chrome on mint... and nothing happens. it's like trying to start a car with a dead battery
12:18 asciilifeform b00lcrap: this isn't how it works. gotta say something of substance.
12:19 b00lcrap haha
12:19 b00lcrap im just observing
12:19 b00lcrap so far i have said nothing
12:19 b00lcrap mostly just idle.
12:19 Kamuela I read the article on nakamotoinstitute that mentioned this channel
12:20 Kamuela got me all hoo-rah'd and so here I am
12:20 TheNewDeal never heard of nakomotoinstitute
12:20 TheNewDeal who wrote that
12:20 Kamuela did I probably butcher the real name? lol let me try to get the link. give me a moment to delete my chrome profile...
12:20 TomServo http://nakamotoinstitute.org/
12:20 assbot Satoshi Nakamoto Institute
12:20 TomServo presumably
12:21 TomServo Kamuela: But which article references b-a?
12:21 Kamuela I'm trying to fix chrome so I can show you lol, the process refuses to die
12:23 TomServo Gah, I forgot MP had an article there.. it was probably: http://nakamotoinstitute.org/gpg-contracts/
12:23 assbot GPG Contracts | Satoshi Nakamoto Institute
12:23 Kamuela http://nakamotoinstitute.org/mempool/bitcoin-killer-of-nietzschean-nihilism/
12:23 assbot Bitcoin: Killer of Nietzschean Nihilism | Satoshi Nakamoto Institute
12:24 TheNewDeal that's a bcp article
12:24 TheNewDeal pete_d
12:26 Duffer1 looks like he was credited, but i can't tell what the website is supposed to be
12:28 pankkake they're credited and were asked
12:28 TheNewDeal website is just a blog aggregator it looks like, also add in some "reading materials"
12:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5365 @ 0.0006101 = 3.2732 BTC [-] {12}
12:29 pankkake well, it's a human selection
12:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 225 @ 0.00287188 = 0.6462 BTC [+] {2}
12:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.29399928 = 2.058 BTC [+] {2}
12:34 TheNewDeal true true
12:34 Kamuela TheNewDeal: is it? i was under the impression mempool was all original articles
12:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10834 @ 0.00063841 = 6.9165 BTC [+]
12:35 Kamuela extremely exuberant pro-Bitcoin original articles lol
12:36 TheNewDeal what do you mean by original articles?
12:37 TheNewDeal about 3/4 of them are written by two of the site "Director of Research" or "Treasurer"
12:42 Duffer1 !up kamuela
12:42 Kamuela Duffer1: thank you
12:42 Duffer1 ^.^
12:43 Kamuela TheNewDeal: we may be talking about two different things
12:44 TheNewDeal http://nakamotoinstitute.org/mempool/
12:44 assbot The Memory Pool | Satoshi Nakamoto Institute
12:44 TheNewDeal that's what I'm talking about
12:45 Kamuela ah yeah, same here. you said blog aggregator though, which is why i said that it seemed they were original articles, which they are, right?
12:45 Kamuela not saying they're more than essays though or that the main focus of that area is lots of content
12:46 TheNewDeal I was wondering what you considered an "original article"
12:49 Kamuela content that wasn't republished from somewhere else. am i totally wrong? do all those cite their original sources?
12:49 Kamuela figured they were born on the site
12:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 70 @ 0.01173 = 0.8211 BTC [+]
12:54 pankkake some of them were first published there yes
12:55 TheNewDeal the only article not written by the two site people is the one from pete_d
12:55 mircea_popescu <fluffypony> it seems decent - based out of Hong Kong, so that's their primary market the cards are backed by a bank in Poland << so weirdly contradictory.
12:56 fluffypony lol
12:56 fluffypony it's prepaid debit cards
12:56 fluffypony so it doesn't really matter who issues them :)
12:56 mircea_popescu no argument, it's just teh postmodernism
12:57 thestringpuller ;;later tell mike_c seconded
12:57 gribble The operation succeeded.
12:57 mircea_popescu punkman:
12:57 mircea_popescu interesting "When a buy or sell order is submitted, the ANXBTC platform receives matching orders from an extensive number of buyers and sellers who have registered as part of the ANX Open Dealer Network. " << "we selftrade. deal with it"
12:59 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo: What brings you round these parts. (apologies If I've asked before, I drink) << i'm stealin gthis one.
13:00 nubbins` !up topace
13:00 mircea_popescu nubbins`: tyvm for the pre-announcement 8) << it's out of this world how the guy does things innit.
13:01 nubbins` "does" ;D
13:01 mircea_popescu it's almost as if he spent too long working in some large corp and it... changed him.
13:02 nubbins` one of the reasons why i got out while i still could
13:02 nubbins` "jon, you're drowning this man in information" "oh fuck, you're right"
13:02 TheNewDeal ;;calc 204310/(100*pi)
13:02 gribble 650.338928462
13:02 nubbins` gallery: http://imgur.com/a/putkr
13:02 assbot The Times January 3 2009 - Imgur
13:03 mircea_popescu kakobrekla: yeah, you can liquidate it by throwing it in hot magma << if you can throw things into it (-> air exposed) it's probably not hot enough to liquidate Si.
13:04 mircea_popescu thestringpuller: what a waste of silicon with such a limited lifespan.... << one of the more abundant elements and what sand is made out of. i never thought i'd see one feel sorry ~for silicon~
13:05 mircea_popescu pankkake: uh, if Bitcoin is the French revolution, I'm out << the discussion was to amplitude. it is just as large an event. as i say there, it just happens to be going the other way, that's all.
13:08 mircea_popescu Duffer1: looks like he was credited, but i can't tell what the website is supposed to be << best i can determine, it's aiming to be a b-a without the ba, predicated on the theory that you can somehow have ideologically neutral sources of power.
13:08 mircea_popescu this is a lulzy proposition, but too complex a point to try and explain it. cheaper to just let people try and pick up the pieces later.
13:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10451 @ 0.0006015 = 6.2863 BTC [-] {21}
13:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7014 @ 0.0006 = 4.2084 BTC [-] {4}
13:25 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: re: irc - perhaps the conformal servers?
13:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 83 @ 0.01166 = 0.9678 BTC [-]
13:27 Duffer1 !up kamuela
13:27 Kamuela Thank you Duffer1
13:27 Duffer1 sure man
13:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69598 @ 0.0006433 = 44.7724 BTC [+] {3}
13:28 penguirker New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/california-gold-rush-vs-bitcoin-mining-rush/
13:29 ben_vulpes who is bcoinnews.com?
13:29 pankkake jborkl
13:32 kakobrekla if you can throw things into it (-> air exposed) < that is your ASSumption . i didnt say lava.
13:32 nubbins` AYYYOOOOO
13:33 nubbins` although this does bring us to the question of how you can throw things into magma
13:33 nubbins` !up mpmcsweeney
13:34 * kakobrekla ponders how to get out of that one.
13:34 kakobrekla ah i got it.
13:34 nubbins` argon
13:35 kakobrekla its an exercise to alert reader.
13:35 nubbins` hm.
13:36 nubbins` suppose the molten rock is rising to the top of the cone, but has not yet reached it
13:36 nubbins` still magma at this point?
13:37 kakobrekla http://www.insidethevolcano.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Magma-Chamber-inside1.jpg
13:37 * nubbins` nods
13:38 kakobrekla yeah mp, we totaly pwnd you. next time just say lol!
13:38 nubbins` but would it melt Si!
13:41 kakobrekla that is not even the point for a while now.
13:42 nubbins` fair enough
13:42 nubbins` meantime, your 5 posters should be printed and mailed out within the next week or so
13:44 kakobrekla cool
13:47 Kamuela i'm trying to figure out the best way to crowdfund a bitcoin project. i really want to give equity and profit-sharing because i think anything else is BS
13:57 kakobrekla !up Kamuela
13:58 Kamuela thank you kakobrekla
13:58 kakobrekla what is the project about?
14:00 Kamuela briefly, a bitcoin work market a la odesk. development team ready
14:02 kakobrekla and you need capital for ?
14:03 Kamuela kakobrekla: MVP development
14:05 kakobrekla who are you/your team?
14:05 Kamuela I'm in talks with differential to do it in the meteor framework
14:06 Kamuela http://differential.io
14:06 assbot Differential | We Build Big Ideas
14:06 Kamuela lol
14:06 kakobrekla so you wanna be the ceo and pay someone to code something up?
14:07 kakobrekla but to pay you need get capital.
14:07 kakobrekla am i missing something?
14:07 Kamuela i could attempt to develop it myself, but my skills there are really crap. i have designs and nearing full use cases for the MVP
14:08 Kamuela yes, you've got it
14:08 thestringpuller so you come to us #b-a this the day of our daughter's wedding
14:09 Kamuela i'd like to keep it within bitcoin's community and equity based because everything else is a crock of sh** honestly. it's not fair to give people merchandise and coupons for something that's going to generate revenue
14:09 kakobrekla ok so who are you and what makes you think you are theoretically capable of running such a thing?
14:10 Kamuela and for it to be truly competitive to something like odesk, it will need to be flexible enough to establish itself in an overseas jurisdiction only when completely necessary. meaning dealing in USD first and setting up a bank account makes it legally complex from the getgo
14:11 Kamuela someone who shares the interests of many for a Bitcoin work market, a go-to for both supplemental and potentially off-grid lifestyles
14:12 Kamuela why am i the one? because i'm committed to keeping it useful for people as far as it can be taken. i'm not looking to grow and sell out. my interests are aligned with keeping it one of the most decentralized ways to act in the BTC economy
14:12 kakobrekla how is it decentralized?
14:13 Kamuela initially it isn't, it's a single-server application. but ultimately i will seek to develop many methods of access via alternate and distributed networks
14:14 Kamuela the technology isn't decentralized first, but the idea that anyone can offer services and receive Bitcoin as compensation is the most decentralized of all exchanges, imo
14:14 Kamuela you're always subject to a bank at a cash exchange
14:15 Kamuela you also need to solve the problem of "what is Bitcoin useful for"
14:15 abathingape http://np.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2eh2du/with_the_mtgox_fiasco_being_long_forgotten_mark/ck058mn?context=3
14:15 assbot trixisowned comments on With the mtgox fiasco being long forgotten, Mark Karpeles launches a new business, "forever.net" selling VPS, VoIP & dedicated servers: bitcoin is NOT accepted.
14:15 abathingape kekeke
14:16 Kamuela speculating? that's it? one of the biggest uses of currency is in transaction and the building of capital. we have some stock markets and that's great and will continue to grow along with 2.0 uses, but as a currency it needs to facilitate real trade
14:17 Kamuela the superniche initial target market are just Bitcoin supporters and enthusiasts, but ultimately it can compete with something like odesk by undercutting its fees especially as in many places getting into Bitcoin is getting ridiculously easy, meaning obtaining it
14:17 Kamuela getting out is a bit harder, but something the initial contractors will shoulder voluntarily
14:18 kakobrekla still dont know who you are.
14:18 Kamuela who should I be? as a serious question
14:19 kakobrekla ok, so this is me: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=kakobrekla
14:19 assbot Rating Details for User 'kakobrekla'
14:19 kakobrekla who are you?
14:20 Kamuela kakobrekla: https://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=126219604
14:20 assbot Sign Up | LinkedIn
14:20 kakobrekla sez enter username and password
14:21 Kamuela are linkedin profiles not public?
14:21 kakobrekla nfi
14:22 Kamuela kakobrekla: does this also require a login? http://lnkd.in/bA2NERy
14:22 assbot Kamuela Franco | LinkedIn
14:22 kakobrekla works
14:26 mod6 ;;seen moiety
14:26 gribble moiety was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 1 day, 7 hours, 10 minutes, and 35 seconds ago: <moiety> manuls for all! :]
14:27 kakobrekla Kamuela well anyway, i can only show you the door, you are the one who has to step through it; http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets
14:27 assbot first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki]
14:29 kakobrekla (fyi i send everyone there, even ninjashogun - bad cases get slaughtered sooner or later)
14:29 kakobrekla !up Kamuela
14:34 kakobrekla also this is you? http://web.archive.org/web/20120801003219/http://kamuelafranco.com/
14:34 assbot Idealism Personified - KamuelaFranco.com
14:38 Kamuela kakobrekla: thank you, man, for both the voice and that
14:38 Kamuela kakobrekla: it was me, but i've had that domain for years and years (previously) and some of the older stuff definitely reflects being 11 years old!
14:40 TheNewDeal is moiety ded?
14:41 kakobrekla TheNewDeal she left for undetermined amounts of t-matter.
14:42 TomServo TheNewDeal: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-08-2014#788458
14:42 assbot Logged on 10-08-2014 11:09:36; moiety: I really didn't know what to say yesterday but I've had time to think now. I will leave the phone line on for the remainder of the term when I can and update the blog but I won't be able to be on IRC. Since I won't be on IRC anymore, if there is anything I should really know, please leave a message on skype or the blog. The reasons being, this isn't working out for me and I need to focus on working to keep
14:42 TomServo Woah, that's new right?
14:43 kakobrekla it sez right there, Logged on 10-08-2014 11:09:36
14:43 TomServo I mean assbot quoting the actual log entry
14:43 kakobrekla a.
14:43 kakobrekla 2 days.
14:44 TomServo Cool.
14:44 BingoBoingo Guess who just had the Feds knock on their door!
14:44 kakobrekla lol
14:44 kakobrekla did you give them cookies?
14:45 BingoBoingo Nah, Just let them in on all of my nothing I knew about a connection they suspected between DBordello's BTCPack and The Silk Road
14:45 TomServo Or Gin and Tonic at least?
14:46 BingoBoingo Nope, we stood in the front yard and talked
14:46 BingoBoingo In the heat
14:47 kakobrekla SR, really?
14:47 kakobrekla still ?
14:47 BingoBoingo I tried to explain the stupid Devcoin thing I used to get Bitcoins.
14:47 BingoBoingo Yes, asking about the Silk Road
14:47 Duffer1 did they ask about your own bitcoin holdings?
14:47 Duffer1 or was it all SR?
14:48 BingoBoingo It was all TSR and possible connections between it and BTCPak
14:48 TheNewDeal going to have to look up this btcpak
14:49 Duffer1 yea never heard of that one
14:49 BingoBoingo It was a site, you send Bitcoin they sent prepaid reload codes.
14:49 BingoBoingo DBordello ran it
14:49 BingoBoingo At the time CoinBase wasn't a thing I'd heard of
14:51 Duffer1 i wonder what makes them believe there's a connection
14:51 BingoBoingo It was an Pasty Irish FBI agent who didn't want to stand in the sun and a Treasury agent
14:51 BingoBoingo Duffer1: They said because it looks so anonymous.
14:51 Duffer1 .......
14:51 TheNewDeal what the hell does that mean?
14:52 * BingoBoingo is thankful he managed to avoid the whole Silk Road thing.
14:52 Duffer1 american enforcement mentality
14:52 Duffer1 black guy in hoody in winter? lets search him
14:52 TheNewDeal looks anonymous!
14:52 BingoBoingo Hi Agent Broachwala and/or your colleagues!
14:53 TheNewDeal did they mean it looks Anonymous?
14:53 Duffer1 ohh
14:54 BingoBoingo Seriously the kept saying suggesting everything in the Bitcoin was shady Tor related stuff.
14:54 BingoBoingo Black Markets and all that.
14:55 TheNewDeal if we can't trace it exactly... it's gotta be underground
14:55 BingoBoingo They were like no one uses Bitcoin actually at Overstock.com ; I'm like... actually I totally bought a watch and some other shit http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/01/13/overstock-com-prolly-not-a-scam/
14:55 assbot Overstock.com: Prolly not a scam | Bingo Blog
14:56 TheNewDeal did they give you a decent exchange rate
14:56 Duffer1 i bought a handmade spalted mable/bubinga keepsake box for bitcoin on saturday
14:56 BingoBoingo TheNewDeal: BTCPak was kind of a Gyp, but at the time it was the only thing that really.... Seemed reliable
14:57 BingoBoingo Without taking days.
14:58 TheNewDeal gotcha
14:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27631 @ 0.00064393 = 17.7924 BTC [+]
14:58 BingoBoingo The seemed so fucking incredulous that I with my unkempt hair and beard, could have somehow not used the silk road
14:59 BingoBoingo !up mike_c
15:01 TheNewDeal it's true, all unkempt hair & bearders at one time used the silk road
15:01 TheNewDeal !up kamuela
15:03 * BingoBoingo did not spot where they had a actually parked their Gasenwagen
15:06 Kamuela TheNewDeal: thank you
15:07 TheNewDeal everybody gets one
15:08 BingoBoingo These agents apparently came all the way down from fucking Peoria, the one's card says.
15:08 BingoBoingo ARE THERE NO FBI OR TREASURY AGENTS IN ST LOUIS.
15:09 BingoBoingo They were prolly so insistent because it would suck to be them and drive all of the way down here to meet with a person as boring as myself.
15:09 TheNewDeal hahaha
15:09 TheNewDeal we're SURE you're more eccentric
15:10 BingoBoingo !up mike_c_on_the_ro
15:10 mike_c_on_the_ro thanks.
15:10 BingoBoingo I'm like if you want to talk shady sports betting sites that ran with user money... I know a couple. Fucking bitcoinsports.eu
15:10 mike_c_on_the_ro mod6:;;later tell mike_c need help with WoL << what can I do you for?
15:11 ben_vulpes <gribble> Rating entry successful. Your rating for user danielpbarron has changed from 8 to -1. << now that's nuts. 8 to -1? you people need to move more slowly with your ratings.
15:11 mike_c_on_the_ro ;;seen mod6
15:11 gribble mod6 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 45 minutes and 40 seconds ago: <mod6> ;;seen moiety
15:12 mod6 check on game 700
15:12 mike_c_on_the_ro goddamnit. ok, will do.
15:12 mod6 heh, no worries. just a heads up from this weekend.
15:13 BingoBoingo The shitty thing about the ordeal on them asking about the goddamned Silk Road I didn't use was their knocking woke me up from my day-slumber
15:13 mike_c_on_the_ro just frustrating, i thought i had that fixed.
15:13 BingoBoingo So I'm looking like a fucking sweaty unkempt hobo meeting with these guys in the front lawn.
15:21 BingoBoingo Really weird thing was the Agents suggesting that I'd never expect them to find me. I DON"T WORK THAT HARD TO KEEP ANONYMOUS. I just do the minimum to keep poor kids in shitholes from harassing me into giving them money.
15:22 TheNewDeal love it
15:23 BingoBoingo My impression of them before the badges cam out was they might be process servers come to harass me over student load debt.
15:23 BingoBoingo *loan
15:24 mike_c_on_the_ro you going to immortalize them in a blog post?
15:25 mike_c_on_the_ro !t m s.mpoe
15:25 assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00062893 / 0.00063788 / 0.00064393 (698020 shares, 445.26 BTC), 7D: 0.00062821 / 0.00065441 / 0.00070855 (4353254 shares, 2,848.85 BTC), 30D: 0.00062821 / 0.00076768 / 0.00094217 (18927544 shares, 14,530.40 BTC)
15:25 BingoBoingo mike_c_on_the_ro: Prolly. After I take a shower.
15:25 BingoBoingo I was fucking hot outside.
15:27 thestringpuller !last m s.mpoe
15:27 assbot Last trade for S.MPOE on MPEX was at 0.00064393 BTC [+]
15:31 BingoBoingo Also Hollywood lied. The FBI agent was wearing a black business suit, but instead a white polo and khakis.
15:34 * BingoBoingo wonders how much time they will invest in trying to figure out the Devcoin thing
15:39 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all
15:39 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 504.44, vol: 5556.89140818 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 501.451, vol: 2201.41425 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 502.45, vol: 7039.32678866 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 532.99, vol: 13.94734986 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 500.452875, vol: 14642.32000000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 516.11742, vol: 27.56 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 515.885399987, vol: 28.27053224 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
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15:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 68 @ 0.01173226 = 0.7978 BTC [+] {5}
15:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 86 @ 0.01175 = 1.0105 BTC [+]
16:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15078 @ 0.00064715 = 9.7577 BTC [+] {2}
16:02 thestringpuller ;;later tell tylander sup
16:02 gribble The operation succeeded.
16:03 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: taleb << asciilifeform of course, who else?
16:03 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: guy's what, 60 by now ? << born 1960 it seems
16:05 pete_dushenski asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: lol, you read Kvant ?!?! << who is this man, what sort of devil is he?
16:06 pete_dushenski http://trilema.com/2014/how-i-was-wrong-cuckolding-or-a-story-about-sigmas/#comment-106551
16:06 assbot How I was wrong : Cuckolding, or a story about sigmas pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
16:07 pete_dushenski decimation: asciilifeform: "it pattern-matches 'derp' and throws my concentration" << yeah I have the same experience. << you gents need better filters!
16:08 thestringpuller ;;google GTA V original music
16:08 gribble The Music of Grand Theft Auto V - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Music_of_Grand_Theft_Auto_V>; Grand Theft Auto V soundtrack - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Theft_Auto_V_soundtrack>; The Music of Grand Theft Auto V: Three Volume Digital Album Now ...: (1 more message)
16:08 thestringpuller Damn i need to play this game again
16:09 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: decimation so taleb's mistake is that he's being a BANAL asshole ? << he does get a lot of the "o this is nothing new" retort
16:12 pete_dushenski xanthyos: ;;rate danielpbarron -1 fickle with his friends, uses the bible to justify being disloyal << o_O drama
16:13 Duffer1 Amazon aquired Twitch
16:13 mike_c_on_the_ro mod6: fixed.. going to dig into root cause when I get home. sorry for the hiccup.
16:13 mod6 no prob! thanks!
16:14 jborkl http://www.coindesk.com/black-market-cannabis-road-hacked-loses-100000-bitcoin/
16:14 assbot Black Market Cannabis Road Hacked, $100,000 in Bitcoin Lost
16:14 jborkl :/
16:14 jborkl really come on now
16:14 thestringpuller pete_dushenski: there is a saying: Loyalty to the End do you know what it means?
16:15 pete_dushenski thestringpuller: sure
16:18 jborkl oh, they were hit by the 1cat burglar
16:18 jborkl not to be mistaken with the 1 ham burglar
16:21 jurov re: melting Si - can't the purified Si monocrystal substrate reused to make another IC? asciilifeform what do you think?
16:21 jurov *be
16:22 kakobrekla well, given enough energy everything can be made into anything
16:22 thestringpuller i shouldn't have said specifically Si, but more like the gold and silver also stored in the IC's
16:23 pete_dushenski Kamuela: you also need to solve the problem of "what is Bitcoin useful for" << classic. like SDRs should buy tacos nao
16:24 thestringpuller ;;ud SDR
16:24 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=SDR | An abbreviation meaning stop, drop and roll. Used to comment on pictures that are particularly hot. "Woah, sdr coz u look hot!" by deldo July 11, 2008. 5 4. Merch .
16:24 thestringpuller not thinking that's the right one
16:24 thestringpuller thinking*
16:25 TomServo special drawing rights
16:25 pete_dushenski Kamuela: why am i the one? because i'm committed to keeping it useful for people as far as it can be taken. i'm not looking to grow and sell out. my interests are aligned with keeping it one of the most decentralized ways to act in the BTC economy << "committed" is in no way a skill as it's here presented any more than a grade school student is committed to not getting an F.
16:26 pete_dushenski Kamuela: not looking to sell out? 1) why not? 2) tough thing to prove
16:26 pete_dushenski at least he came to the right place
16:27 kakobrekla not too long ago someone pasted how its more about location than your cast.
16:28 pete_dushenski kakobrekla: the selling out bit or the committed bit?
16:28 TomServo !up Kamuela
16:28 kakobrekla the right pace bit :D
16:29 Kamuela thank you TomServo
16:29 kakobrekla place*
16:29 Kamuela pete_dushenski: who else is committed? have you heard of another project to do this? i'd be both willing to contribute and cease competitive efforts if you could point me in that direction
16:30 Kamuela and a better question would be: why would I be crowdfunding if i didn't see marginal success somewhere else? it's usually cheaper to get funding within your own circle
16:31 Kamuela far from being combative, i'm looking to understand where you're coming from
16:31 Kamuela it must be that every member of ethereum has a long history of proven success right?
16:32 Kamuela many less tangible projects have gotten ridiculous levels of funding, and i am DOING the legwork to make this happen. so when you ask what qualifies me, well, it's because i'm the guy DOING something
16:32 Kamuela because i'm the guy here asking
16:32 kakobrekla funny you mention ethereum.
16:32 Kamuela yeah maybe it's a bad thing to mention, i don't want to be lumped into that "ether"
16:32 kakobrekla !s chumpatron
16:32 assbot 99 results for 'chumpatron' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=chumpatron
16:32 * BingoBoingo was kind of disappointed that the Feds addressed me by my slave name
16:33 TomServo BingoBoingo: I would've been thrilled if they used Atruk instead of BingoBoingo. :P
16:33 ThickAsThieves http://www.cnet.com/news/amazon-to-buy-live-stream-gaming-site-twitch/ poor Twitch, not even worth an Instagram
16:33 assbot Amazon to buy live-stream gaming site Twitch for $970M - CNET
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16:33 TomServo Wow. Bezos stole'd it.
16:34 pete_dushenski Kamuela: http://contravex.com/2014/07/23/a-guide-to-buying-5000-ether-bitcoin-2-5x-more-than-ethereums-genesis-sale/
16:34 assbot A Guide To Buying 5000 Ether/Bitcoin, 2.5x More Than Ethereum's Genesis Sale Offers | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski
16:34 punkman BingoBoingo: did they say "BingoBoingo" at any point?
16:34 ThickAsThieves twitch accepts bitcoin, so now youll see "Amazon adding Bitcoin" on reddit for 2 days
16:34 ThickAsThieves watch this fuck up my short...
16:34 pete_dushenski Kamuela: it must be that every member of ethereum has a long history of proven success right? << it must be nothing of the sort and is in fact quite that
16:34 pete_dushenski but read the ethereum piece
16:34 punkman he was going for sarcasm ^
16:35 BingoBoingo punkman: no
16:35 Kamuela I was indeed being sarcastic
16:35 BingoBoingo TomServo: They asked for my forum name and I gave it to them after some reluctance
16:35 pete_dushenski BingoBoingo was kind of disappointed that the Feds addressed me by my slave name << lmao
16:36 pete_dushenski Kamuela: either way, there's really no rush to get your idea off the ground
16:36 pete_dushenski to do it well, you'd be well served to get in the wot and spend the next 6-12 months reading every line of logs and getting to know the people around here
16:36 Kamuela well, I'll ftfy: "either way, there's really no rush for I, pete_dushenski, to help get your idea off the ground"
16:37 punkman Kamuela, having some experience in the matter, I'd recommend against copying the odesks and the elances
16:37 Kamuela punkman: how so?
16:37 Kamuela punkman: not necessarily your experience, but i mean what are you recommending against in particular
16:37 punkman just take everythign they do, and do it the opposite way
16:37 pete_dushenski brb
16:37 punkman that might work
16:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1640 @ 0.00068997 = 1.1316 BTC [-] {3}
16:38 Kamuela punkman: lmao, i don't exactly follow
16:38 Kamuela certainly as a competitor to existing odesk businesses, the project will shape itself around the interests of its customers. but what initially or conceptually is wrong with the odesk style?
16:39 punkman everything
16:39 Kamuela for example, it seems so far from my interviews that something people really like is the guaranteed payment... something that this project would NOT be offering for at least a while. it certainly would not be part of the MVP
16:40 Kamuela of course that's a bit of laziness on the part of vetting your customer, but i understand that what i call laziness other people call serving needs, which I completely respect the need to do
16:44 ThickAsThieves people always enjoy promises that cant be kept
16:45 TomServo Pff. Schneier says "Matthew Green has a good post on what's wrong with PGP and what should be done about it." (with link of course)
16:46 TomServo First comment: Did you have to fight the urge to call it a "pretty good post"?
16:47 punkman ThickAsThieves: it'd be nice if there was someone playing matchmaker, vetting both sides, guaranteeing whatever he can afford to
16:47 punkman don't even need a website
16:47 ThickAsThieves well agents arent cheap
16:47 ThickAsThieves nor sclable
16:47 punkman odesk takes 10%
16:47 ThickAsThieves scalable
16:47 Kamuela and offers no escrow
16:47 punkman don't need to scale
16:48 Kamuela and addresses an $80 mil market
16:48 ThickAsThieves surely bigger than $80m no?
16:48 Kamuela with inferior financial technology
16:49 ThickAsThieves "Cops found this wanted Nebraska man after he posted his Ice Bucket Challenge on Facebook."
16:50 Kamuela the first couple thousand users on a Bitcoin-powered odesk are going to be BTC enthusiasts and folks looking to play around, meaning a release valve for pent-up demand for use of coins, and of course a dedicated following of people who want to try to make supplemental or full-time income doing btc freelance work
16:50 Kamuela but after that there's a real competitive advantage to 10% and a couple days turn around time and <10% and 1 hour turnaround
16:51 Kamuela especially when you factor in the fact that a bunch of the initial contractors are going to underprice in an attempt to gain customers, there's a real value proposition to a competing network
16:51 Kamuela and odesk "just accepting Bitcoin" is a bigger deal with any real thought
16:52 Kamuela meaning there's a whole lot of inertia to fight to make that happen
16:52 Kamuela and how are they going to address a cheaper and lower-hassle competitor even with Bitcoin? will they openly say jobs paid in bitcoin are discounted? i don't think they could do that
16:53 Kamuela ThickAsThieves: I don't know about the actual total market, but just odesk takes in $80mm
16:55 ThickAsThieves isnt someone already working on this?
16:55 ThickAsThieves Hearn, Popescu, etc
16:55 punkman there's a few dozens of them
16:55 punkman Kamuela, I think your plan is to make it prettier and with more javascripts?
16:57 Kamuela there's a real potential to help me out in one way or another, but isn't it boring to make words and contribute nothing?
16:58 punkman you can help yourself by reading teh logs
16:58 Kamuela i don't mind the real questions, kakobrekla addressed a serious point of "who are you?" that's a real question that has to be answered
16:58 nubbins` ;;view 21349
16:58 gribble #21349 Mon Aug 25 13:40:55 2014 nubbins` SELL 1.0 'What is Bitcoin?' silkscreened art print @ 35 USD (18x24", limited edition of 45 available to public, 4-color silkscreen print on acid-free paper, pre-order price only. Shipping week of August 31.)
16:58 Duffer1 b-a are generally firm believers in the Eddy Murphie method of help
16:59 Kamuela Eddy or charlie?
16:59 ThickAsThieves Kamuela is asking for help?
16:59 Duffer1 er charlie right :P
16:59 Kamuela Haha
16:59 ThickAsThieves !up Kamuela
16:59 Kamuela Meaning breaking my legs for learning
16:59 Kamuela :P
16:59 kakobrekla Kamuela that linkedin isnt much to go by.
16:59 TomServo nubbins`: Is there a photo or sample of the poster?
16:59 Kamuela kakobrekla: totally agreed
17:00 Kamuela perhaps i'll have to be my own silent partner
17:00 punkman lol
17:00 nubbins` TomServo: i'm printing them this week, i do have a digital proof but i'd rather show off pictures of the actual silkscreened version. pics to follow, but you're buying blind if you pre-order ;)
17:01 Kamuela because my connections at differential and the team there represent about 50 years of combined success in MVP's
17:01 nubbins` price will probably be 40-45 once they're all printed, signed, numbered, and pictures taken
17:01 Kamuela so if i found a way to make them shine i'd probably get farther along
17:01 TomServo nubbins`: Cool thanks. I'll wait to see it.
17:02 * nubbins` tips hat
17:02 nubbins` it's gonna be a beaut
17:03 TheNewDeal nubbins` can you pm me a digital version/
17:04 nubbins` no sneak peeks :)
17:04 TheNewDeal bah
17:04 TheNewDeal I do like your work from what I've seen, but I haven't the slightest clue about this one
17:04 nubbins` all i got is testimonials:
17:04 nubbins` [00:13:41] <mircea_popescu> ok this rocks.
17:05 TheNewDeal he got a sneak peak?
17:05 mircea_popescu TheNewDeal his latest work was quite lovely.
17:05 nubbins` he bought 50, he gets a sneak peek ;)
17:05 mircea_popescu X-Rob want the same address used each week ?
17:05 TheNewDeal haha I guess that may be fair
17:05 TheNewDeal if I give you a zip code can you figure out shipping costs?
17:05 X-Rob mircea_popescu: yes, please, I was going to remind you about that. Need to figure out the discount though.
17:06 TomServo TheNewDeal: Mind if I PM?
17:06 mircea_popescu just keep em running.
17:06 X-Rob 1xrobauEmhLwVnTmLbs6M92n1xGFAFbgq is the address
17:06 mircea_popescu kakobrekla: its an exercise to alert reader. << ahh
17:06 nubbins` TheNewDeal: totally. probably somewhere in the $20-ish range as a guess
17:07 TheNewDeal you can pm me all you want bb ;)
17:07 TheNewDeal so 20+35 pre order price?
17:08 mircea_popescu Kamuela: briefly, a bitcoin work market a la odesk. development team ready << well, the thing is this : we;ve been wanting something like this built for about a year. finding someone to do it is hard, however, and moreover i won't support a would be ceo on op's work. i'd rather deal with the coder guy directly.
17:09 nubbins` TheNewDeal yeah. buy with a friend to save on shipping ;D
17:09 mircea_popescu half the value of b-a is taking the entire layer of would-be ceos out of business completely, as there's nothing really they can usefully contribute.
17:10 TheNewDeal nubbins what would it be for 2+shipping?
17:11 nubbins` no extra cost, it's just paper, so 70+20
17:12 TheNewDeal no frameage?
17:12 * nubbins` shakes head
17:12 nubbins` framing it locally would be the sensible option
17:12 nubbins` otherwise you're paying to ship a piece of glass across the continent :D
17:12 TheNewDeal gotcha
17:13 TheNewDeal whens the downpayment due?
17:13 nubbins` you can even get em plaque-mounted, i've seen people do that
17:13 nubbins` this coming friday
17:15 TheNewDeal i say i say
17:15 TheNewDeal how long does that stuff take to ship ya think?
17:16 mircea_popescu https://btc.waroflife.com/gow/27/ << interesting bet calculator thingee mike added
17:16 assbot Game 27 - Death 3686 Life 6314 Year 824 - War of Life
17:16 TheNewDeal I actually like that
17:16 TheNewDeal did he do it because of my horrible betting in game 26?
17:16 Kamuela mircea_popescu: you seriously just said that?
17:17 mircea_popescu Kamuela yes.
17:17 Kamuela if you're working with them directly, doesn't that make you CEO?
17:17 Kamuela have you contributed nothing useful?
17:17 Kamuela all you just said was "hey same concept, but let me start it"
17:17 mircea_popescu only in a very distant sort of manner. not in the traditional sense the term is used.
17:17 TheNewDeal I thought he was the funding
17:17 mircea_popescu Kamuela no, it wasn't "let me start it". it was "let the coder start it, and run it"
17:18 Kamuela mircea_popescu: the coder doesn't want to do that. the coder wants to run a development shop
17:18 mircea_popescu if i wanted to "start it" i'd have started it in 2012. but i don't, because i can't nor should i do everything.
17:18 Kamuela are you anti-capitalist? seems like you're running counter to specialization and trade
17:18 mircea_popescu well then fuck him, he can go die in a fire.
17:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.0006438 = 7.1462 BTC [-] {2}
17:18 mircea_popescu need a better coder, which simply means ~actual~ one.
17:18 Kamuela you're asking for a CEO
17:19 Kamuela you just want it to be the build crew as well
17:19 mircea_popescu im running counter to some very particular, bad implementations of capitalism.
17:19 mircea_popescu this being a recurring discussion these days it seems.
17:19 Kamuela are you the type who thinks that
17:19 Kamuela Apple would have been a better company without steve jobs
17:19 Kamuela that he contributed nothing
17:19 mircea_popescu but anyway : specialisation is not a good thing just for the mere fact that it's specialisation.
17:19 mircea_popescu jobs was not the ceo in the sense you use the term.
17:20 Kamuela CEO's contribute vision, investor and customer relations, executive decisions, accountability, etc. could all of these things be "in-sourced," sure, and they are in a lot of cases
17:20 punkman "Specialization is for insects"
17:20 Kamuela punkman: Heinlein
17:20 mircea_popescu Kamuela you know you're just calling it "vision" to avoid saying "ceo is the guy who wants money for nothing and thinks this wil wash"
17:20 mircea_popescu there's no value in "ideas" and rebranding them as "vision" won't wash.
17:21 mircea_popescu money comes through work.
17:21 Kamuela who says i'm asking for money?
17:21 Kamuela i'm asking for capital
17:21 mircea_popescu asking is not the problem.
17:21 Kamuela i don't make money on a crowdfund, this is completely development and marketing runway
17:22 mircea_popescu what i'm trying to impart to you is that this "take capital from idiots of type A and labour from idiots of type B" that silicon valley was built upon is dead in the water.
17:22 mircea_popescu i
17:22 mircea_popescu i
17:22 mircea_popescu damn.
17:22 TheNewDeal but MP, don't you remember the cyperpunks thought up PGP before it was implemented?!?!
17:22 mircea_popescu i'll support the idiots of type b directly tyvm
17:22 TheNewDeal they had the power to think, and not do
17:22 mircea_popescu and that means the only way you'll be able to give them a worse deal is for as long as this elephant in the room stays secret.
17:22 mircea_popescu TheNewDeal right right.
17:22 nubbins` TheNewDeal: about a week-ish to ship
17:23 Kamuela the thing is, if it were easy for builders and maintainers to be owners and operators, it'd be the rule instead of the exception
17:23 Kamuela there isn't some mass scheme of exploitation going on
17:23 Kamuela it's a rational choice between employment and entrepreneurship
17:23 mircea_popescu it only isn't the rule because up until now there didn't exist this chan, and this ideology.
17:23 mircea_popescu it will be the rule within your lifetime toh.
17:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22500 @ 0.00064572 = 14.5287 BTC [+]
17:25 Kamuela so what will happen in my lifetime, you're saying, is that the profit motive will go away, all marginal cost will go to marginal benefit, and unicorns will come back from extinction
17:25 mircea_popescu Kamuela no. i say that within your lifetime, you'll starve with this model of trying to ceo that i perceive you're trying to impl;ement
17:25 Kamuela even if we are all managed by artificial intelligence, that artificial intelligence is still the capitalist
17:25 mircea_popescu much like you'd have starved cca 1920 trying to be a buggy manufacturer.
17:27 Kamuela something for nothing is what drives the world. it's what causes both its prosperity and its problems
17:27 mircea_popescu Kamuela approach it from another angle, perhaps it's more digestible that way. suppose the worker's work was no good. you know this because the code doesn't compile. suppose the capital's no good. you know this because the check bounces.
17:27 mircea_popescu now suppose your "vision" is no good.
17:27 Kamuela i understand trying to eliminate that, but i think that will be done through solving information asymmetry rather than through eliminating... ideas?
17:28 mircea_popescu you can'rt ever know this, can you ? that means you're not part of the pie, not adding value.
17:28 mircea_popescu not eliminating ideas, but the brand of "ideas", or whatever it reforms as. this concept that one's personally important for no reason whatsoever.
17:28 mircea_popescu "i thought of it first!!11" or w/e.
17:29 Kamuela so... because i want to organize a bunch of people who don't know each other, because i interview potential customers, because i will continue to direct operations of both the MVP and later pivots, I am contributing "nothing?"
17:29 mircea_popescu none of this is to say you personally are a bad guy or anything.
17:29 Kamuela You're getting arbitrary and it's almost disrespectful
17:29 Kamuela you act like i'm just trying to take something to a patent office
17:29 mircea_popescu !up Kamuela
17:30 Kamuela i acknowledge i didn't think of it first
17:30 Kamuela and i'm not trying to cash in on that
17:30 mircea_popescu don't get all bristly lol. anyway : there's tools to organize all that, use 'em.
17:30 Kamuela well let's put it this way
17:30 Kamuela i'm a manager
17:30 mircea_popescu irl you mean ?
17:30 jborkl good afternoon
17:31 Kamuela in this project, and that's not some kind of a euphemism
17:31 Kamuela i have to manage the programming team every day
17:31 mircea_popescu you ever been a manager irl ?
17:31 mircea_popescu ello jborkl
17:31 Kamuela for brief positions of over 1700 employees actually yes
17:31 mircea_popescu okay. so you know what an office manger is. sorta like a glorified receptionist, hires the cleanning crew, takes a weekly salary.
17:32 Kamuela you're looking at me and saying that my skill in knowing how to accomplish EVERYTHING involved but simply not DOING everything involved is meaningless
17:32 mircea_popescu pretty much, yeah.
17:32 mircea_popescu i also know how the plumber should fix the pipes.
17:32 Kamuela so do it yourself
17:32 mircea_popescu i guess i could be the plumber's manager for as long as i stfu and don't go much in the way.
17:32 Kamuela or you live a meaningless life
17:32 Kamuela according to your own logic
17:33 mircea_popescu as far as plumbing is concerned, i'm a negligible entity.
17:33 jurov Kamuela, 90% of freelancer is web scraping and php plodding stuff. You can't combine this model with bitcoin economy, it needs something fundamentally else at this stage.
17:33 Kamuela so if a task requires more than yourself, are you actually saying that hiring someone is being some kind of lazy ass
17:33 jborkl yeah, or you are just me
17:33 mircea_popescu Kamuela no, but you're welcome to that strawman if you wish.
17:33 Kamuela mircea_popescu: how is that a strawman?
17:33 Kamuela i have preplanned the MVP
17:34 Kamuela i have design work done
17:34 Kamuela and yet having the build done by a team that's better and uses time more effectively than i can
17:34 mircea_popescu you have design done pre-product ?
17:34 Kamuela is suddenly wrong in one person's eyes
17:34 mircea_popescu this is like having painted the wall of the unbuilt house innit ?
17:34 Kamuela no, this is like ensuring a house doesn't fall down by having blueprints drawn up before you put the pieces together
17:34 Kamuela sorry, a 0-value activity
17:34 Kamuela lol
17:35 mircea_popescu o you don't mean what is normally meant by design online, ie, drawing up mockups of webpages. do you ?
17:35 Kamuela you're just a little bit of a marxist... that's cool... i mean, i don't prefer it, but you are welcome to your own opinion
17:35 mircea_popescu you designed, as in, software architecture. db models and whatnot. tho you don't code ?
17:35 X-Rob mircea_popescu: I think it's fair, looking at the outage, if you just make it 0.2 rather than 0.22 for this week.
17:35 Kamuela who told you i didn't code?
17:36 mircea_popescu X-Rob im not going to bother with a coupla cents, just make sure the thing stays online.
17:36 mircea_popescu Kamuela im just sorta following along. do you ?
17:37 Kamuela well another way I'm contributing, I suppose, is moving resources to their highest valued use
17:37 mircea_popescu how would you know ?
17:37 Kamuela and mine may not be foregoing seeking a project's funding by getting into a pseudo-intellectual marxist debate
17:37 mircea_popescu myeah. point in case i guess.
17:38 mircea_popescu Current
17:38 mircea_popescu Chief Executive Officer at Coin SEO
17:38 mircea_popescu Past
17:38 mircea_popescu Chief Idealist at KamuelaFranco.com
17:38 mircea_popescu Administrative Clerk at US Census Bureau
17:38 mircea_popescu o you have GOT to be kidding me.
17:38 Kamuela look, doing for the sake of doing. just expressing. building. being steve wozniak. it's beautiful and i completely agree with you
17:38 mircea_popescu nah, this convo is over, srsly.
17:38 jurov what's pseudointellectual in asking you to show the world the MVP before asking anyone anything?
17:38 Kamuela you accuse me of strawman, and what did you just do?
17:39 Kamuela bring up a character assessment based on your perception
17:39 Kamuela at least hold yourself to the same standard
17:39 mircea_popescu mkay.
17:39 mircea_popescu Past : simpleminded psychotic. Currently, cult leader.
17:40 Kamuela i apologize for not knowing all the terms, but you are committing the fallacy known as "name-calling"
17:40 Kamuela may be ad hominem, not sure
17:41 Kamuela though i suppose no one agreed this was a debate. you're just talking
17:41 Kamuela contributing, i suppose. although not by your own measure. but by mine for sure
17:41 jborkl mircea- some interesting stats top 10 visits us,ca,hk,nl,au,by,gb,fr,de,ru,cn
17:42 Kamuela you're making me realize, for example, that the road to finish this is an uphill one
17:42 BingoBoingo <Kamuela> may be ad hominem, not sure << Every label sounds like an ad hominem unless you have read and digested the historical context.
17:42 jborkl all the ones from france are probably pankaake
17:42 X-Rob mircea_popescu: I do TRY to keep it online. I just feel bad for that outage. The good news is that in that outage I rebuilt both power distribution boards, so hopefully it shouldn't be needed again.
17:42 penguirker New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/bitcoin-pool-discus-fish-swims-past-ghash-io-1/
17:43 jborkl Windows73.3 % Linux14.7 % Macintosh9.5 %
17:44 Kamuela but it's fine because value is subjective and i know that whatever i accomplish or don't accomplish won't need to be arbitrarily defined by you, mircea_popescu
17:44 jborkl Google Chrome53.7 % Firefox35.8 % MS Internet Explorer5.6 %
17:45 jborkl no one uses the IE
17:45 jborkl really, it is so great
17:46 jborkl and I get more traffic from Yandex than Bing
17:49 jborkl oh and the Orangecat post did very poor, so maybe I needed a picture of a funny cat
17:49 BingoBoingo jborkl: Or a more unique cat
17:49 danielpbarron ;;echo Kamuela, you need to be defined in the WoT in order to accomplish something [eregister]
17:49 gribble Kamuela, you need to be defined in the WoT in order to accomplish something (eregister <nick> <keyid>) -- Register your GPG identity, associating GPG key <keyid> with <nick>. <keyid> is a 16 digit key id, with or without the '0x' prefix. We look on servers listed in 'plugins.GPG.keyservers' config. You will be given a link to a page which contains a one time password encrypted with (1 more message)
17:49 jborkl yes, I got something wrong there
17:53 mircea_popescu Kamuela wouldja simmer down.
17:54 pete_dushenski "Korean bitcoin exchange Korbit has raised $3 million in Series A funding led by SoftBank Ventures Korea and Pantera Capital, with participation from BAM Ventures, and returning investors Bitcoin Opportunity Corp., Tim Draper, Pietro Dova, and Strong Ventures."
17:55 mircea_popescu they're fucking quotes. the point here being that i comfortably define myself in the terms of the would-be insults various folk tried to tack on over the years. the years of me being and their coming and going. whereas you're stuck aspirationally trying to add labels to yourself. it's a fundamental difference at work.
17:55 mircea_popescu jborkl i think everyone gets more traffic from yandex than bing.
17:55 Kamuela well, I mean you attacked my philosophies, ideas, accomplishments, and character in about 20 nonstop minutes, man. i'm sorry i didn't pass another test of yours by remaining fully collected...
17:55 mircea_popescu you're doing ok.
17:55 assbot Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1D0V293.txt )
17:55 kakobrekla !b 2
17:56 penguirker New blog post: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/08/25/a-law-enforcement-encounter-if-you-ran-a-bitcoin-related-service-before-the-thing-hit-100-you-prolly-ought-to-be-somewhat-concerned-andor-prepared/
17:56 mircea_popescu !s hey guise
17:56 assbot 26 results for 'hey guise' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=hey+guise
17:58 mircea_popescu odd, not i nthe logs even ?!
18:01 BingoBoingo submission to /. of the LEX encounter blog post http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&type=submission&id=3795013
18:01 assbot Bitcoin User tells of Interview by FBI and Treasury Department - Slashdot
18:01 TheNewDeal niiice
18:02 BingoBoingo Well, it's submitted, have to hope it gets votes
18:03 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2013#336698
18:03 assbot Logged on 30-09-2013 19:34:06; zhenhua_wang: mircea_popescu: you are simple minded. sorry but your are a psychopathic
18:03 mircea_popescu aha so it was labcoin
18:03 mircea_popescu couldn't remember for the life of me wtf it was.
18:03 jborkl dont worry Coindesk will puke up your post in about 5 minutes
18:04 mircea_popescu jborkl no, that's someone else phishing as them.
18:05 assbot Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2VEJ64B.txt )
18:05 BingoBoingo !b 2
18:05 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo was btcpak the guy what's his name shrem was helping circumvent his aml or different guy ?
18:05 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Totally different guy. As far as I can tell he only ever bought Bitcoins
18:06 mircea_popescu oh, dbordello's thing ?
18:06 BingoBoingo Yeah, that one
18:06 mircea_popescu ;;seen dbordello
18:06 gribble dbordello was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 41 weeks, 6 days, 19 hours, 47 minutes, and 58 seconds ago: <DBordello> I agree
18:06 TheNewDeal btcpak guy only purchased bitcoins huh?
18:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 89 @ 0.00916324 = 0.8155 BTC [-] {5}
18:09 jborkl mircea_popescu> jborkl no, that's someone else phishing as them. ? who is that? I had someone email me from a service content runner, but I can write my own shitty stories full of typos
18:09 mircea_popescu jborkl it's a joke.
18:09 jborkl oh ok
18:09 mircea_popescu earlier they sent an email spam blast which "wasn't them"
18:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 95 @ 0.01063998 = 1.0108 BTC [+] {6}
18:11 BingoBoingo I guess this is a good time to remind people Van ads is a thing http://van-ads.com/venues if anyone want to bet on the story getting traction
18:11 assbot Vulpes Ad Network
18:12 mircea_popescu o look at this, so there's apparently a tv miniseries called roots built around delivering hot black male nudes in bondage ot the average housewife.
18:12 jborkl 31745226.73248134 <- big fee
18:12 mircea_popescu smart.
18:12 TheNewDeal hows van ads work?
18:15 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo "That think I've avoided and wrote about on this blog before. " << you hate the gspot or something ?
18:18 mircea_popescu !up deadweasel
18:19 mircea_popescu abathingape: kekeke << lulz. well, at least fatso had vision neh
18:20 mircea_popescu TheNewDeal: is moiety ded? << i think irl ate her.
18:21 TheNewDeal :(
18:22 mircea_popescu Kamuela if you care, this is intensely dissonant : "Who Is Kamuela Franco? Kamuela Franco is perhaps the most intensely freedom-loving individual you will ever meet. If you've found Steve's work helpful, please donate to show your support."
18:22 mircea_popescu a no longer online is it. nm.
18:22 TheNewDeal nubbins` put me down for two
18:25 mircea_popescu TheNewDeal is this how you buy assassinations with bitcoin now ?
18:25 TheNewDeal no mp, that's always how I've purchased them
18:25 mircea_popescu lol
18:26 mircea_popescu kakobrekla: still ? << you don't know how this works i take it. they'll be pulling on that thread in 2030. why drop it ?
18:26 kakobrekla clearly i dont.
18:26 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Nice catch
18:26 kakobrekla he is still online btw
18:26 kakobrekla !up Kamuela
18:26 mircea_popescu i just sent a ping and * dbordello :No such nick/channel
18:26 kakobrekla a
18:26 kakobrekla i thought . nvm
18:27 mircea_popescu which i a pity rly, guy was kinda smart/sane.
18:27 kakobrekla obv not?
18:27 mircea_popescu a distinction enjoyed by shockingly few of the early birds.
18:27 mircea_popescu kakobrekla i never got a druggie vibe off him. i mean who knows, but to me it seems a forced association.
18:28 kakobrekla i wasnt implying druggie but using sr for whatever
18:28 mircea_popescu maybe.
18:28 mircea_popescu then again, the sec to this day pretends it got a settlement for s.dice, so...
18:28 kakobrekla heh
18:28 TheNewDeal lol
18:29 mircea_popescu average streetwalker more respectable than any govt agent you pick.
18:29 Kamuela mircea_popescu: ?
18:30 mircea_popescu need
18:30 mircea_popescu some words with that.
18:30 BingoBoingo The agents got kind fo rude with their insisting I know something, but it wasn't quite Hannibal Lecter "free range rude" rude
18:31 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo: Seriously the kept saying suggesting everything in the Bitcoin was shady Tor related stuff. << well what happens there is that they had a lot of early success just exploiting the geek idiocy. let the kids talk about how cool and anon and w/e it is.
18:32 Kamuela mircea_popescu: you've only pinged me once in the last few moments of time, so i'm asking you both about what you meant by dissonant and what was wrong with that statement
18:32 mircea_popescu sort-of like mentioning partying to a 15yo and letting them spill.
18:32 mircea_popescu Kamuela a. well, who's steve.
18:32 Kamuela mircea_popescu: also honestly i don't remember what that was in reference to, exactly lmao
18:32 Kamuela oh, i know what you're talking about
18:33 mircea_popescu Duffer1: i bought a handmade spalted mable/bubinga keepsake box for bitcoin on saturday << what the holy shit.
18:33 Kamuela you're talking about my web site, and some copy
18:33 mircea_popescu ;;ud bubinga
18:33 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Bubinga | 1. Bubinga. 1. A type of hard wood 2. A type of hard erection. "Man, I got the worst bubinga right now, you have no idea". by PenchantMarksman March 08, 2013.
18:33 mircea_popescu Salted Marble Bubblegum should totally be a band.
18:34 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo: The seemed so fucking incredulous that I with my unkempt hair and beard, could have somehow not used the silk road << it's not racial profiling if you're white :D
18:34 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Amazing isn't it.
18:34 mircea_popescu great log lol.
18:35 mircea_popescu anyway, you
18:35 mircea_popescu 're slowly but surely becoming a fucking liability for your neighbourhood. every other week a new black jeep over there.
18:36 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes: move more slowly << he's new.
18:38 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo if it's any consolation : while you were out on the lawn in the sun, i was indoors taking refuge from the chilly winter wind here.
18:38 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> 're slowly but surely becoming a fucking liability for your neighbourhood. every other week a new black jeep over there. << Reason to host conversation in the front yard, so the neighbors can gossip
18:38 mircea_popescu went into one of the largest whorehouses. cordoba and 9 de julio. masquerades as a coffee place.
18:38 mircea_popescu had a strawberry sundae.
18:39 BingoBoingo Nice
18:39 TheNewDeal did you know what it was, or were you just looking for ice cream?
18:41 BingoBoingo !up ThickAsThieves
18:41 ThickAsThieves thx
18:45 mircea_popescu TheNewDeal i knew what it was, been there before.
18:46 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo: Also Hollywood lied. The FBI agent was wearing a black business suit, but instead a white polo and khakis. << crisis, ya kno ?
18:46 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: I guess
18:46 ThickAsThieves IRS on the other hand is hiring some babes
18:47 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves you know the tax office workers here are fucking knockouts too ?
18:47 TheNewDeal if the IRS sends a sexy woman to my door, I'm going to tell her I'm a part of the FBI - female body inspectors
18:47 mircea_popescu what is it about hot women gravitating towards where people get assraped.
18:48 mircea_popescu thestringpuller: i shouldn't have said specifically Si, but more like the gold and silver also stored in the IC's << gold melting point isn't tinny either.
18:48 mircea_popescu CHECK OUT MY PUN EVERYONE!
18:50 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves: watch this fuck up my short... << watch it making exactly no difference.
18:51 mircea_popescu unless you're short on reddit words or something. and even then...
18:51 mircea_popescu punkman: just take everythign they do, and do it the opposite way << word. shit's been run by george, of "every call i ever made was wrong" fame.
18:52 TheNewDeal hears, "Tinny!" , *shrieks* and runs away
18:52 mircea_popescu TomServo: Pff. Schneier says "Matthew Green << are you surprised ? if not, why not :D
18:53 mircea_popescu it must suck to be one of these scum. if being one of the soviet scum is anything to go by... it must suck quite a lot.
18:54 punkman http://techcrunch.com/2014/08/23/san-francisco-open-exchange-aims-to-be-the-e-trade-of-bitcoin/
18:54 assbot San Francisco Open Exchange Aims To Be The E-Trade Of Bitcoin | TechCrunch
18:55 mircea_popescu http://www.bankruptcylawnetwork.com/ny-bankruptcy-court-uses-the-eddie-murphy-method-of-allocating-tax-returns/
18:55 assbot NY Bankruptcy Court Uses The Eddie Murphy Method Of Allocating Tax Returns
18:55 mircea_popescu Duffer_ it's eddie murphy not eddy murphie :D
18:58 mircea_popescu Kamuela: because my connections at differential and the team there represent about 50 years of combined success in MVP's << in this vein, the whores i sat down with for my sundae represent about fifty eight miles of combined cock.
18:58 mircea_popescu and that's not counting the back and forth, nor the oral.
18:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00064379 = 3.0902 BTC [-]
19:03 TheNewDeal !up RagnarsBitch
19:04 ThickAsThieves <+mircea_popescu> watch it making exactly no difference. /// indeed!
19:05 ben_vulpes <TheNewDeal> hows van ads work? << you sign up and pay bitcoin to run ads on a select group of venues.
19:06 mircea_popescu factoid of the day : Singer Mel Tormé began his professional career singing with the Chico Marx Orchestra.
19:06 artifexd !s X-Rob
19:06 assbot 219 results for 'X-Rob' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=X-Rob
19:07 ben_vulpes TheNewDeal: are you looking to buy some exposure to a thing?
19:07 * X-Rob looks worried
19:07 ben_vulpes for* a thing?
19:09 TheNewDeal no I'm selling
19:09 TheNewDeal unless of course you have a good deal
19:10 ben_vulpes what are you selling now?
19:11 TheNewDeal i'm not selling anything atm :D
19:11 TheNewDeal might do it in 30 days or so
19:11 TheNewDeal !up ThickAsThieves
19:11 TheNewDeal ;;ident thinkasthieves
19:11 gribble Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead.
19:11 TheNewDeal ;;ident thickasthieves
19:11 gribble Nick 'thickasthieves', with hostmask 'ThickAsThieves!~ThickAsTh@unaffiliated/thickasthieves', is not identified.
19:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5650 @ 0.00064379 = 3.6374 BTC [-]
19:13 mircea_popescu TheNewDeal i'd be much surprised if you manage to get something less than a month old approved for van.
19:13 ThickAsThieves just being lazy...
19:13 ThickAsThieves distracted
19:15 mircea_popescu And then there's the story that's fraught with disaster -- of balls that got caught, when a chap took a crap, in the woods. And that trap underneath... Oh, I can't bear the thought!
19:15 TheNewDeal are you talking about vanity ads? I was just wondering what it was
19:15 mircea_popescu TheNewDeal it's van ads.
19:16 TheNewDeal ;;trust nubbins`
19:16 gribble Error: "trust" is not a valid command.
19:16 TheNewDeal ;;gettrust nubbins`
19:16 gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask nubbins`!~leel@stjhnf0157w-142163082159.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOP.nl.bellaliant.net. Trust relationship from user TheNewDeal to user nubbins`: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 4 via 3 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=TheNewDeal&dest=nubbins%60 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=nubbins%60 | Rated since: Wed Oct 16 19:58:53 2013
19:17 nubbins` ;;ident
19:17 gribble Nick 'nubbins`', with hostmask 'nubbins`!~leel@stjhnf0157w-142163082159.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOP.nl.bellaliant.net', is identified as user 'nubbins`', with GPG key id CF2950F23C844002, key fingerprint 5015BD3D0AE659C8B8632F31CF2950F23C844002, and bitcoin address None
19:20 TheNewDeal ;;calc 90/[ticker --last]
19:20 gribble 0.179594117295
19:21 ben_vulpes TheNewDeal: http://www.van-ads.com
19:22 TheNewDeal what's the point?
19:22 TheNewDeal oh
19:22 ben_vulpes ;;gettrust jborkl
19:22 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user ben_vulpes to user jborkl: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=ben_vulpes&dest=jborkl | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=jborkl | Rated since: never
19:22 ben_vulpes ;;ident jborkl
19:22 gribble Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead.
19:23 ben_vulpes not in wot?!!?
19:23 BingoBoingo ;;gettrust hollywood
19:23 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user BingoBoingo to user hollywood: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=BingoBoingo&dest=hollywood | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=hollywood | Rated since: never
19:24 ben_vulpes i don't even wot
19:24 BingoBoingo You, know the nice thing about Today's adventure is that at least now I can know that the FBI has a file on me somewhere. just as it has one on Martin Luther King Jr.
19:25 TheNewDeal and you have some good internet exposure before you're body is found floating in the river
19:25 TheNewDeal jp, i dont think the fbi is gonna ax ya
19:27 BingoBoingo Nah, that's what.. What's that Will Smith agency called again...
19:28 * BingoBoingo wonders if alf has similar close enounters of the gasenwagen kind?
19:29 ben_vulpes BingoBoingo: MIB
19:29 BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: No, the one from Wild Wild West
19:29 BingoBoingo Or was it Soul Plane?
19:29 ben_vulpes hue
19:32 BingoBoingo It's been a while does it look like this submit to /. thing is working well? http://slashdot.org/recent
19:32 assbot Slashdot: News for nerds, stuff that matters
19:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10689 @ 0.00064672 = 6.9128 BTC [+] {2}
19:33 asciilifeform http://imgur.com/fw0f9PI
19:33 assbot City bus, in Wash. D.C. area. - Imgur
19:33 asciilifeform ^ seen around half an hour ago.
19:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.00064978 = 8.1223 BTC [+]
19:33 ben_vulpes loooovely!
19:34 ben_vulpes "inform on your fellow subjects! it's good for you, and might be for them!"
19:34 asciilifeform ads recruiting stoolies aren't new here. they have then regularly for, e.g. insurance fraud
19:34 asciilifeform but the small arms theme is new.
19:35 penguirker New blog post: http://bitcoinassetsreception.wordpress.com/2014/08/26/summary-26-july-25-august/
19:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1000 @ 0.00063368 = 0.6337 BTC [-] {10}
19:37 ben_vulpes looks like moiety's alive after all...
19:37 mircea_popescu !up Kamuela
19:37 asciilifeform i did somehow think that she starved...
19:38 TheNewDeal ;;ident moriarty
19:38 gribble Nick 'moriarty', with hostmask 'moriarty!~test@unaffiliated/moriarty', is not identified.
19:38 * asciilifeform catches up on logs
19:38 asciilifeform BingoBoingo visited by the wagen ?
19:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ROCK] 5000 @ 0.00056046 = 2.8023 BTC [-] {7}
19:39 mircea_popescu asciilifeform seems a reasonable approach, all would be gangstas gotta have the gunz.
19:39 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Indeed, multi agency wagen
19:39 mircea_popescu definitely more likely to succeed than "have you seen this 6yo ? $1k reward"
19:40 TheNewDeal ;;rate nubbins` invested in some bitcoin art, waiting for roi :)
19:40 gribble Error: 'invested' is not a valid integer.
19:40 TheNewDeal ;;rate nubbins` 1 invested in some bitcoin art, waiting for roi :)
19:40 * asciilifeform saw, on at least one occasion, stereotypically shifty fellow on a train with stereotypical bulge in his pocket - standing right next to polizei, who was entirely disinterested...
19:40 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user nubbins` has been recorded.
19:40 BingoBoingo ;;tslb
19:40 gribble Time since last block: 21 minutes and 3 seconds
19:41 TheNewDeal definitely had a boner ascii
19:41 asciilifeform big fat 'colt 1911' shaped boner.
19:41 mircea_popescu asciilifeform not much polizei could have done.
19:41 nubbins` ;;view 21351
19:41 gribble #21351 Mon Aug 25 19:39:07 2014 nubbins` SELL 1.0 'What is Bitcoin?' silkscreened art print @ 35 USD (18x24", 5-color silkscreen on white Cougar acid-free paper, limited edition of 50, pre-order price only, shipping week of August 31, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=756955.0)
19:41 nubbins` ^ only 43 remain!
19:42 asciilifeform Cougar acid-free paper << what other rare animals can be turned into paper ?
19:42 mircea_popescu Alien Paper.
19:43 nubbins` asciilifeform woodchucks ;D
19:43 nubbins` woodpeckers
19:43 nubbins` paper cranes? ;/
19:43 asciilifeform those are everywhere.
19:44 mircea_popescu The Peckish Woodpecker. Salon & Pimparium.
19:45 * BingoBoingo spots an addition http://van-ads.com/venues
19:45 assbot Vulpes Ad Network
19:45 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: why'd they let you loose? or should we assume that you're posting from a stake ?
19:46 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Seems visit was of an inquisitory nature.
19:46 BingoBoingo Maybe they wanted to see how I'd react if still "wild"
19:47 BingoBoingo Also there's that pending county misdemeanor court date later this week
19:48 Kamuela brb
19:48 BingoBoingo Maybe next time I go to stake?
19:49 mircea_popescu why are you still in the us anyway ? not like you got a job or anything ?
19:49 mircea_popescu !up tyl
19:49 mircea_popescu !up tylander
19:49 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: if i recall, they took his passport last year
19:49 mircea_popescu o, actually ?
19:49 TheNewDeal for what?
19:49 BingoBoingo No, I've never had one
19:49 mircea_popescu lol
19:50 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i wasn't aware they actually do the whole nkvd thing. afaik it was just personal cognizance stuff.
19:50 * asciilifeform scratched head, definitely remembers somethign like this
19:50 * BingoBoingo isn't quite ready for long walk to Mexico, but now see reasons to... get ready
19:50 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: It is jsut dificult to get one
19:50 BingoBoingo As am still on bond
19:50 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo well soon enough it'll be impossible, and nothing to do with bitcoin.
19:51 mircea_popescu just the way dead cow cults work.
19:51 asciilifeform not that, come that hour, the folks with passports will fare any better
19:52 * asciilifeform discovered, after some digging, that he could get russian passport - but would have to spend 1+ year there
19:53 TheNewDeal does evorhees ever come online? was wondering how panama worked out for him
19:53 * asciilifeform is greatly puzzled re: how anyone might imagine BingoBoingo had anything to do with SR
19:54 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Maybe they hadn't connect my slave name to my real name yet and read the blog where such connections would not make sense.
19:54 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: wasn't aware they actually do the whole nkvd thing << now that i think about it, they do one better. you can keep your passport - but when they scan it at the airport, if the bell rings you get a special treat.
19:55 nubbins` ah, airports
19:55 nubbins` one of the few places in the world where i feel incredibly uneasy, no matter what
19:55 artifexd nubbins`: Do you still have my mailing address?
19:55 nubbins` artifexd i don't believe so
19:55 nubbins` all i remember is that i addressed your package to Mr. Art I. Fexd ;D
19:56 artifexd Give me a btc amount for the poster good for the next hour or so
19:56 BingoBoingo I don't think I'll escape by air, I dun want to get MH-17'd like all of those doctors fighting CIA-AIDs did
19:57 nubbins` artifexd: ,,(calc 55/[ticker --last])
19:57 nubbins` ah fuck, what?
19:57 nubbins` ;;calc 55/[ticker --last]
19:57 gribble 0.109155139222
19:57 nubbins` ^
19:57 artifexd $55? What happened to $35?
19:57 TheNewDeal nubbins` are these going to be limited edition?
19:57 TheNewDeal shipping
19:58 nubbins` shipping :)
19:58 nubbins` i flat-pack them, rolling destroys prints
19:58 mircea_popescu TheNewDeal not lately
19:58 mircea_popescu ;;seen evoorhees
19:58 gribble evoorhees was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 year, 5 weeks, 4 days, 0 hours, and 32 seconds ago: <evoorhees> I need to go for now, on later
19:58 nubbins` TheNewDeal only 50 are being sold to the general public
19:58 TheNewDeal beautiful
19:59 nubbins` depending on sales we may do a second run, but they'll be visibly different (new color scheme) so there's no confusion
19:59 TheNewDeal love it
19:59 artifexd http://btc.blockr.io/tx/info/3fc360144b7e0ded8ef45a4e8715a1fe1c20b571cb3e305c7952e35bfa88453c
19:59 artifexd Lemme know when you are ready for the physical address
20:00 nubbins` yeah, pm me when you're ready
20:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 67 @ 0.00910189 = 0.6098 BTC [-] {4}
20:02 thestringpuller nubbins`: did you get the mail?
20:02 thestringpuller :P
20:02 nubbins` yep!
20:02 nubbins` everything looks to be in order
20:02 thestringpuller awesome
20:02 thestringpuller he forgot to mention to put a payment address in the signed invoice
20:03 thestringpuller but I guess he felt that was assumed
20:03 thestringpuller I will go ahead and pay the full thing up front (instead of half up front and half on completion)
20:03 nubbins` sure
20:04 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: electronic recycling is indeed inefficient but it's coming such a long way...http://www.forbes.com/sites/susanmcpherson/2013/09/16/an-innovative-way-to-recycle-electronics/
20:04 nubbins` i should be able to get that sent off tonight
20:04 thestringpuller I just find it sad to throw away good electronics to a landfill.......
20:04 nubbins` man.
20:04 nubbins` 9 posters sold already, 41 remain :0
20:05 thestringpuller posters?
20:05 thestringpuller i didn't get the memo
20:05 thestringpuller window 21
20:05 thestringpuller >:(
20:05 nubbins` ;;view 21351
20:05 gribble #21351 Mon Aug 25 19:39:07 2014 nubbins` SELL 1.0 'What is Bitcoin?' silkscreened art print @ 35 USD (18x24", 5-color silkscreen on white Cougar acid-free paper, limited edition of 50, pre-order price only, shipping week of August 31, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=756955.0)
20:07 thestringpuller do you have a mockup?
20:07 mircea_popescu nubbins` you're like an artist practically speaking.
20:08 nubbins` thestringpuller: yes, but pre-orders are buying sight-unseen. you want pics first, you gotta wait for general release and pay an extra $5-10
20:08 nubbins` mircea_popescu: artistoid
20:08 mircea_popescu lol
20:08 nubbins` i'm more a technician than anything :D
20:09 mircea_popescu technical name for it being artistoid
20:09 nubbins` nod
20:09 mircea_popescu i live in wait of the day a doctor says to some poor woman somewhere
20:09 mircea_popescu "miss, you had an impacted fuckoid in there we had to take out"
20:09 nubbins` "you've got a bunch of fuckin tumors in your head"
20:10 nubbins` casual doctor, where are you?
20:10 mircea_popescu "you know i spilled my coffee earlier while spazzing @ facebook, which sucked
20:10 mircea_popescu but it doesn't suck nearly as much as this phase 2 lymphomyeloma you've got"
20:11 thestringpuller lol
20:11 thestringpuller so bad
20:12 nubbins` heh
20:14 thestringpuller whatever happened to guy who wanted to make odesk
20:15 kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=756884.0;topicseen
20:15 assbot Ceibax - decentralized finance
20:15 ben_vulpes nubbins`: no pics?
20:15 thestringpuller i need to read that
20:15 thestringpuller !s odesk bitcoin
20:15 assbot 6 results for 'odesk bitcoin' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=odesk+bitcoin
20:15 mircea_popescu kakobrekla he had me at "merkle tree financial group"
20:16 kakobrekla this shit is gold
20:16 kakobrekla they were busted for using stock photos with made up names
20:16 mircea_popescu i kinda picture this overweight, sad guy in overalls sitting in an empty food court under a handwritten "TopModel Buttsex Initiation Group", looking all dejected
20:16 kakobrekla and then
20:16 thestringpuller Wu Tang should take Dave Chappelle's Wu Tang financial idea and make a bitcoin hedge fund.
20:16 mircea_popescu then suddenly one day he perks up, changes sign
20:16 kakobrekla >So our host confirmed, we indeed had a security breach. It seems a malicious entity swapped our image files - hopefully not more, I am not accusing you dogetime. I am not yet sure what exactly happened, but we will find out.
20:16 mircea_popescu "Merkle Tree Financial Group"
20:16 mircea_popescu sits there all proud now
20:16 nubbins` ben_vulpes: no pics until the pre-order is finished :)
20:16 nubbins` take a gamble and save $10, or play it safe :D
20:17 mircea_popescu nubbins` you know you sound just like a simple mind psychopath by now.
20:17 nubbins` hahah.
20:17 nubbins` no kidding
20:17 mircea_popescu wtf customer service is this dilemma bullshit.
20:17 nubbins` !s simple minded psychopath
20:17 assbot 6 results for 'simple minded psychopath' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=simple+minded+psychopath
20:17 thestringpuller nubbins`: I should take orders on the t-shirts in btc :P
20:17 nubbins` thestringpuller: it's the only sensible way to obtain btc, selling goods for btc.
20:17 kakobrekla i guess nubbins` will send out blank sheets of paper and call it a day.
20:18 mircea_popescu with a happy face drawn in a corner
20:18 kakobrekla "white on white, very modern"
20:18 nubbins` kakobrekla, i promised they'd love it, can't send blank ;(
20:18 kakobrekla "has rounded corners too."
20:18 nubbins` only some would love it
20:18 nubbins` ;;ud white on white
20:18 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=White%20On%20White | White on white describes the interior as well as the exterior of a car, an airpalne or any other vehichle for that matter. The paint job being whit...
20:18 nubbins` oh, what? no.
20:18 nubbins` ;;google white on white lsd
20:18 gribble Erowid LSD (Acid) Vault: "LSD Purity", by Bruce Eisner (1977): <https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_writings1.shtml>; The LSD "Family" [Archive] - Opiophile.org: <http://forum.opiophile.org/archive/index.php/t-26140.html>; HowStuffWorks "CIA LSD Experiments": <http://history.howstuffworks.com/history-vs-myth/cia-lsd2.htm>
20:18 nubbins` shrug, n/m
20:19 mircea_popescu "hello is this xerox support center ? yes how do i set my printer so it prints the image of the onlooker's girlfriend ? what do you mean i have to take her picture first bullshit. what if it changes ??? i can't be running after all these people taking their picture incessantly. hello ? HELLO ??? "
20:19 mircea_popescu nubbins from hell ^
20:19 nubbins` heh
20:19 mircea_popescu I PROMISED THEY WILL LOVE IT!
20:20 kakobrekla its either love or negrate
20:20 mircea_popescu btw, here's a free idea for our entrepreneurial friends :
20:20 nubbins` IF THEY DON'T, WHAT WILL I HAVE BECOME?
20:20 nubbins` kakobrekla +1, i'm really going out on a limb huh ;(
20:20 mircea_popescu everyone's making cryptocurrencies, nobody's making decryptocurrencies
20:20 mircea_popescu why the fuck not ? you can't have crypt w/o decrypt...
20:21 kakobrekla and im not even thinking of -1. more like -8.
20:21 nubbins` nod
20:21 nubbins` ;:rate nubbins` -8 did not love a thing he promised i would
20:21 mircea_popescu ::rate nubbins -48 delivered some paper which looked kinda ok but i didn't love it as promised, i loved amy instead.
20:21 ben_vulpes ;;gettrust nubbins` nubbins`
20:21 gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask nubbins`!~leel@stjhnf0157w-142163082159.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOP.nl.bellaliant.net. Trust relationship from user nubbins` to user nubbins`: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 18 via 12 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=nubbins%60&dest=nubbins%60 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=nubbins%60 | Rated since: Wed Oct 16 19:58:53 2013
20:22 mircea_popescu o wow what a concept!
20:22 ben_vulpes haha i love the text at the bottom there
20:22 mircea_popescu ;;gettrust mircea_popescu mircea_popescu
20:22 gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user mircea_popescu: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 157 via 92 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=mircea_popescu | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=mircea_popescu | Rated since: Fri Jul 22 11:04:26 2011
20:22 nubbins` ;:rate nubbins -maxint i did not love but lust
20:22 mircea_popescu ;;rate mircea_popescu 1 He introduced me to some hot chicks over the years.
20:22 gribble Error: You cannot rate yourself.
20:22 mircea_popescu scam.
20:23 punkman kakobrekla: can haz reshipped poster?
20:23 BingoBoingo !up mpmcsweeney
20:23 BingoBoingo !up Blazedout419
20:24 mircea_popescu http://www.chrishowie.com/otc-wot-graphs/trustgraph.php?source=mircea_popescu&dest=mircea_popescu << lulzy
20:24 assbot g
20:24 kakobrekla yeah, and make it all rainbowy.
20:24 kakobrekla double rainbowy.
20:25 nubbins` ok, this is getting a bit much
20:25 nubbins` 10 sold now, that's 20% of the for-sale run
20:26 mircea_popescu http://goldmark.org/netrants/no-word/attach.html
20:26 assbot MS-Word is {Not} a document exchange format
20:26 mircea_popescu s/ms-word/pdf/
20:26 kakobrekla yeah its better when we dont know what we are buying into.
20:27 * Blazedout419 puts blind faith in nubbins`
20:28 nubbins` kakobrekla better for me, at least :o
20:30 BingoBoingo http://thecynicalpharmacist.blogspot.com/2014/08/tramadol-supply.html
20:30 assbot TheCynicalPharmacist: Tramadol Supply
20:31 * BingoBoingo wonders where pankkake is for today's eventful day
20:33 mircea_popescu don't tell me there's going to be a peak tramadol event
20:34 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: You see after it became a controlled substance, all of it was held up in shipping, for stickers...
20:34 mircea_popescu shitty cocktail anyway, no idea why anyone';d be using it.
20:35 BingoBoingo Eh, before doctors prescribed it because it was an opiate that wasn't a controlled substance
20:35 nubbins` http://i.imgur.com/P3K7Mjn.jpg
20:36 mircea_popescu a sucky one.
20:36 BingoBoingo Well, placebo effect and all
20:36 BingoBoingo nubbins`: Nice angle
20:38 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo is metamizole controled yet ?
20:38 mircea_popescu more effectual than tramdol anyway.
20:39 mircea_popescu o, that;'s banned. heh.
20:39 mircea_popescu dude that shithole seriously...
20:39 BingoBoingo Eh, happens here
20:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 118 @ 0.01169411 = 1.3799 BTC [+]
20:43 mircea_popescu http://blog.chrishowie.com/2014/08/24/my-thoughts-on-the-als-challenge/
20:43 assbot My thoughts on the ALS challenge
20:43 mircea_popescu delegated.
20:46 BingoBoingo Oh nice write up.
20:46 asciilifeform BingoBoingo - theories re: wagen. a) they wanted to see if you'll pull the pin on the thermite. b) they thought you might have coin.
20:46 BingoBoingo Oh, but I wear a hair shirt.
20:47 BingoBoingo I am but a pauper kept here for the funnies.
20:47 * asciilifeform would challenge BingoBoingo to pauper contest, if he knew what one would be
20:48 * asciilifeform owns the shirt on his back and a large heap of various rusting scrap metal
20:48 BingoBoingo My first impression seriously though that this might be the day the student loan holders tried to collect the balance on my kidneys.
20:49 asciilifeform lol
20:50 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: It's the reason why I greeted the fellows at the door in the peculiar way I did.
20:50 asciilifeform aha.
20:50 BingoBoingo "The reason for this is in my jurisdiction failure to identify yourself in a law enforcement encounter is a crime of questionable constitutional provenance, while having a conversation with a debt collector or process server that consists of nothing on your part other than intoning "Fuck You" a myriad of different was is great justice for all and legally sound."
20:52 asciilifeform i imagine there will be a trend, with folks suspected of having coin somewhere - having problems
20:53 asciilifeform jurov: can't the purified Si monocrystal substrate reused to make another IC << once Si is 'doped' (actual term of art) it isn't pure.
20:53 nubbins` i give it a couple years before simply being a regular in -assets makes air travel difficult
20:54 BingoBoingo All the more reason to drink and gamble. Bitbet is a godsend.
20:54 asciilifeform (pure Si is an excellent insulator. to get a semiconductor, you add, e.g., boron. this is called 'doping.')
20:54 nubbins` !up mpmcsweeney
20:54 nubbins` !up Blazedout419
20:54 nubbins` ;;gettrust assbot Blazedout419
20:54 gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask Blazedout419!~Rogue@76-243-42-91.lightspeed.cntmoh.sbcglobal.net. Trust relationship from user assbot to user Blazedout419: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 4 via 6 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=Blazedout419 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Blazedout419 | Rated since: Sat May 18 17:05:13 2013
20:54 nubbins` !down Blazedout419
20:54 nubbins` ;p
20:55 mircea_popescu <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo - theories re: wagen. a) they wanted to see if you'll pull the pin on the thermite. b) they thought you might have coin. << c. random derps wandered into with random derpage.
20:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 700 @ 0.00081884 = 0.5732 BTC [+] {2}
20:57 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: if usg is walking 'the drunkard's walk', BingoBoingo is in some extraordinarily luck.
20:57 nubbins` !s some cats dig my music
20:57 assbot 2 results for 'some cats dig my music' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=some+cats+dig+my+music
20:57 asciilifeform !s socrates is mortal
20:57 assbot 1 results for 'socrates is mortal' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=socrates+is+mortal
20:57 mircea_popescu not so. sometimes i think you fail to appreciate what drudgery govt work is.
20:57 nubbins` gross, recycling stories
20:58 mircea_popescu after the silk road thing, govt clerks everywhere are stuck following up. everything.
20:58 BingoBoingo Well this conversation and the blog are in plaintext. If they want to go deeper down the rabbit hole, well next year's a time.
20:58 mircea_popescu it's the fbi equivalent of being sent to direct traffic.,
20:59 BingoBoingo Seriously though these guys made a nearly 5 hour round trip drive when... St Louis is 30 minutes away
20:59 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo nobody needed punishment in the st louis bureau.
21:00 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Or Peoria, Illinois is as boring as I suspect.
21:00 mircea_popescu yeah, adult males often go for 5 hour car rides in the sun for fun.
21:01 mircea_popescu it's a pairs sport.
21:01 nubbins` well heat exhaustion is no fun alone
21:02 mircea_popescu this is why the average redditard is sadder than the average inmate.
21:02 BingoBoingo I mean I'll spend 5 hours driving in a car on a hot day and enjoy it solo, but to each their own
21:02 mircea_popescu humans take great comfort in the sufferances of the fellow man.
21:03 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: drunkard's walk?
21:04 BingoBoingo Well, if this blog post ends up linked on CoinDesk, I'm sure the FBI agent will read about it.
21:04 asciilifeform ;;google drunkard's walk
21:04 gribble The Drunkard's Walk: How Randomness Rules Our Lives: Leonard ...: <http://www.amazon.com/The-Drunkards-Walk-Randomness-Rules/dp/0307275175>; Drunkard's Walk - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drunkard's_Walk>; Leonard Mlodinow - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_Mlodinow>
21:04 asciilifeform fail
21:05 asciilifeform http://mnstats.morris.umn.edu/introstat/public/instruction/catmouse/random.html
21:07 ben_vulpes and what's the relationship to the usg at BingoBoingo's door?
21:09 asciilifeform see also feynman's 'lectures on physics' vol. 1, sect. 6-3.
21:10 asciilifeform (unrelated) gold and silver also stored in the IC << they get the Au out - chemically. in just the same way miners do. melting point of Si never plays into it.
21:11 mircea_popescu "He was so sad. You know what Winchell was doing at the end? Typing out mimeographed sheets with his column, handing them out on the corner. That's how sad he got. When he died, only one person came to his funeral: his daughter."
21:11 mircea_popescu ahahah pretty good.
21:11 mircea_popescu hey all ye michael moore wannabes out there ? see winchell. he was the original libtard.
21:12 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i thought sinclair lewis was the original
21:12 mircea_popescu hard to beat a dude pushing a telex key randomly to "impart a sense of urgency"
21:14 asciilifeform telegraph
21:14 asciilifeform pressing randomly on a telex just gets you - reddit.
21:14 mircea_popescu lol
21:14 mircea_popescu righy ou are.
21:15 asciilifeform anyone here -not- build a telegraph as a boy ?
21:15 asciilifeform and get a friend on other end, and key random garbage ?
21:16 mircea_popescu i was being a doctor at that age.
21:16 asciilifeform lol
21:16 ben_vulpes i was hustling my classmates
21:16 ben_vulpes and siblings
21:16 ben_vulpes and parents for that matter
21:16 ben_vulpes teachers too!
21:17 ben_vulpes but i did build a crystal radio. out of which poured...random garbage.
21:17 asciilifeform lol rng
21:17 ben_vulpes trng!
21:17 ben_vulpes "talk radio number generator"
21:17 mircea_popescu asciilifeform fun factoid : one of s. lewis' stories (bongo) was stolen & rewritten by a romanian author a decade later
21:18 mircea_popescu you should see this thing. i mean, there's this vast tradition in romanian of making incredibly sad and outrageously depressing stories the only fare kids are allowed up until about puberty
21:18 mircea_popescu but this probably takes the cake.
21:18 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: (you probably knew) soviet 'fanfic' of devil knows how many famous works - e.g., 'wizard of oz', 'pinnockio', - was hyper-bestselling
21:18 asciilifeform to the point that virtually no russian-speaking folks ever read the originals
21:18 asciilifeform or even know they existed
21:19 mircea_popescu yeah. well romanians never went that far.
21:20 asciilifeform https://suite.io/fraser-sherman/zj528t
21:20 assbot The Russian Wizard of Oz
21:21 asciilifeform first work of fiction read by /me as a larva
21:21 asciilifeform the brits, if i recall, actually did a translation to inglisch
21:22 asciilifeform http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/TalesOfTheMagicLand << more detail
21:22 assbot Literature/Tales of the Magic Land - Television Tropes & Idioms
21:24 * asciilifeform when read the original finally, and saw the famous film, thought it was a cruel mockery of the Real Thing
21:25 mircea_popescu "it's not stealing if you make it better"
21:25 asciilifeform vol. 1 was mostly a barbaric rip
21:25 mircea_popescu oldest defense to copyright infringement, seems to me perfectly valid.
21:25 asciilifeform but from that point, it's almost a 'real' sf trilogy
21:25 asciilifeform complete with aliens, death rays.
21:26 asciilifeform the russian 'pinnockio' - 'буратино' - is an almost totally different thing. a kind of parable about chumpatronics (esp. in the animated musical rendition)
21:30 asciilifeform http://www.stihi.ru/2011/03/01/1973 << one rhyme featured therein, with decent inglisch translation
21:30 assbot , Engl ( ) / . -
21:31 asciilifeform 'To get a braggart use no knife: But give his bragging a high-five – And you possess his life.' (most 'winged' snipped therein.)
21:40 BingoBoingo ;;ticker
21:40 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 503.89, Best ask: 504.78, Bid-ask spread: 0.89000, Last trade: 504.82, 24 hour volume: 5394.69116707, 24 hour low: 496.79, 24 hour high: 506.98, 24 hour vwap: 502.765156743
21:44 * asciilifeform had no idea this: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/TaleOfTheTroika had a page on tvt.
21:44 assbot Literature/Tale of the Troika - Television Tropes & Idioms
21:48 asciilifeform even this: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Animation/SuurToll has a page.
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21:48 assbot Animation/Suur Toll - Television Tropes & Idioms
21:48 * asciilifeform floored
21:51 mircea_popescu they're that good.
21:51 BingoBoingo https://twitter.com/SwiftOnSecurity/status/504083563491246080
21:51 assbot Nobody thinks about the robot apocalypse when spec'ing out a sex android. They should. When the time comes, are you going to be the sub?
21:52 asciilifeform https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0mTEVlJgC8 (the latter)
21:52 assbot Suur Toll - part 1 - YouTube
21:52 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo what's time to do with it lol.
21:53 mircea_popescu this time delusion is like the geek's favourite trope already. wtf, "when the time comes". the time came.
21:53 mircea_popescu and went.
21:54 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: I dunno yet. Maybe it's an abuse of Kant taking the imposition of time upon the manifold by intuiting and assuming that gives them... power?
21:54 mircea_popescu either that or a wishful extension of the school environment. you know, "when the time for the exam comes". by definition that will be later.
21:55 mircea_popescu little does school sally know or wish to notice that in fact her cunt;'s been bleeding for a while, and wanda the preteen whore's time is apparently long gone.
21:55 asciilifeform exam >> http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/SZS_insane_animation_6005.jpg
21:56 mircea_popescu lol. quite.
21:57 BingoBoingo http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Series/Roots
21:57 assbot Series/Roots - Television Tropes & Idioms
21:58 BingoBoingo !up tjader
21:59 BingoBoingo !up Flerb
21:59 Flerb Thanks
22:00 BingoBoingo Flerb: You're welcome?
22:00 Flerb Why was that a question?
22:00 BingoBoingo Flerb: Why shouldn't it be a question?
22:01 Flerb BingoBoingo: I was just thanking you for doing the !up
22:01 BingoBoingo Flerb: But isn't it fun turning minor typing errors into games?
22:01 BingoBoingo Fuck, the jig's up
22:02 Flerb BingoBoingo: oh right
22:02 BingoBoingo I gave away the seekrit fingerslip.
22:03 * Flerb foolishly bought 0.05 btc worth of btm without understanding it
22:03 Flerb Is there a relatively good place to start with assets?
22:03 mircea_popescu the log.
22:04 Flerb I've been doing BTCjam loans and getting quite good returns
22:04 asciilifeform Flerb: also actually having assets is optional.
22:04 Flerb asciilifeform: mhm
22:04 mircea_popescu i've been crossing red lights and not wearing a seat belt.
22:05 Flerb mircea_popescu: isn't that, maybe slightly illegal?
22:06 mircea_popescu dealing with some thinly veiled online scam ? not really, no.
22:06 mircea_popescu running it may be, maybe, sometime after the usg gets bored of taking half day rides to nowhere.
22:08 ben_vulpes ;;later tell mike_c van iframe css fixt
22:08 gribble The operation succeeded.
22:08 ben_vulpes ;;later tell pete_dushenski van iframe css fixt
22:08 gribble The operation succeeded.
22:08 mircea_popescu http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-x-GncY92Rg4/UUhaDDgulYI/AAAAAAAAFL4/syTWcQr2KYQ/s1600/A7018a.jpg << fuck swimsuits have come a long way.
22:08 ben_vulpes ;;later tell BingoBoingo van iframe css fixt
22:08 gribble The operation succeeded.
22:08 mircea_popescu and yet... cameltoe is older than they think.
22:08 ben_vulpes ^^ all praise kakobrekla
22:09 Flerb mircea_popescu: I think it would be
22:10 Flerb Is crossing red lights without seatbelts an online scam?
22:11 mircea_popescu Flerb we were discussing btcjam,
22:11 mircea_popescu i thought.
22:11 Flerb Oh
22:11 Flerb Are you implying that the people who own it are scammers?
22:11 Flerb Or people who borrow on it!
22:11 Flerb *?
22:12 Flerb Because some of them are scammers
22:12 mircea_popescu no, i'm saying it. this is by no means news, either.
22:12 BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: What kind of fix?
22:13 kakobrekla so van ads in rolling now on bitbet - feel free to buy the shit.
22:14 asciilifeform neato!
22:15 Flerb mircea_popescu: so it's an online scam?
22:15 ben_vulpes BingoBoingo: explicitly overriding the user-browser css body margin
22:15 Flerb That's news to me
22:15 mircea_popescu ;;google mpoe-pr list knew scams affraid ask
22:15 gribble Meni Rosenfeld's vanity thread - Bitcoin Forum: <https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121314.0>; TheLadders: How the scam works - Corcodilos: <http://corcodilos.com/blog/3219/theladders-how-the-scam-works-2>; Loper OS » A Review of MPEx, the Bitcoin Stock Exchange.: <http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1108>
22:15 asciilifeform http://www.van-ads.com/venues << why zero for bitbet ?
22:15 assbot Vulpes Ad Network
22:16 ben_vulpes nobody's bought anything to run there yet.
22:16 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140484.0 there you go.
22:16 assbot MPOE-PR's list of things you always suspected were scams but never dared say so.
22:16 asciilifeform aha
22:16 Flerb OK
22:17 mircea_popescu ;;ident
22:17 gribble Nick 'mircea_popescu', with hostmask 'mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu', is identified as user 'mircea_popescu', with GPG key id 8A736F0E2FB7B452, key fingerprint 6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452, and bitcoin address None
22:17 BingoBoingo Bought a BitBet Ad
22:17 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes VAN doesn't recognize that keyid. Please try again with the shortform of your GPG/PGP keyid. << now wouldn't it be saner if you just took the last 8 ?
22:18 Flerb mircea_popescu: says it isn't a scam per se
22:18 mircea_popescu Flerb driving without insurance isn't a crime per se either.
22:19 mircea_popescu just a very shitty thing to do.
22:19 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: i've heard "last 8" i've heard "long keyids"
22:19 Duffer1 in the states it's a crime
22:19 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes http://www.van-ads.com/login/2FB7B452 << this needs a "here's a raw text link for if you programatically interract with this thing"
22:19 assbot Vulpes Ad Network
22:19 Flerb mircea_popescu: it is in the UK
22:19 mircea_popescu Flerb Duffer1 fine, misdemeanor/felony if oyu must.
22:19 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: noted
22:19 Duffer1 :P
22:20 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: in the meantime, try http://www.van-ads.com/login/2FB7B452/raw
22:20 Flerb mircea_popescu: walking on streets isn't a scam per se
22:20 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes i click on but it logs me out ?
22:21 ben_vulpes uh not parsing sorry?
22:22 Flerb Should probably get my gribble thing sorted
22:22 Flerb ;;help
22:22 gribble The bot responds when you start a line with the ! character. A good starting point for exploring the bot is the !facts command. You can also visit the bot's website for a list of help topics and documentation: http://gribble.sourceforge.net/
22:22 ben_vulpes question for everyone using gpg: when you want to look up your keyid, what do you do?
22:23 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes i logged in. i clicked to buy, it logged me out, had to log back in
22:23 ben_vulpes noted.
22:23 ben_vulpes thanks mi
22:23 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu:
22:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12601 @ 0.00069266 = 8.7282 BTC [+]
22:24 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes so how do i say "put the same ad i have running atm on this new site too" ?
22:24 mircea_popescu or for that matter how do i say "what ads do i have running again ?"
22:24 ben_vulpes these are all great questions
22:25 mircea_popescu hehe aite.
22:26 Duffer1 Flerb - http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/GPG_authentication
22:26 assbot GPG authentication - bitcoin-otc wiki
22:26 mircea_popescu java.lang.IllegalArgumentException
22:26 mircea_popescu Invalid format: ""
22:27 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes form totally has to prepopulate start date with today's date and end date with end of month date.
22:27 mircea_popescu but i gotta say the on the fly part works fine.
22:29 ben_vulpes ugh non determinisitic logout bug
22:29 ben_vulpes what have i donnnnne
22:35 mircea_popescu you probably are fucking up the cookie read or write somewhere.
22:38 ben_vulpes no doubt
22:42 ben_vulpes paha s//www
22:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7850 @ 0.00068769 = 5.3984 BTC [-]
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23:04 mircea_popescu http://mocholand.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/arline-hunter.jpg
23:09 TheNewDeal if I buy a vanad for say bitbet
23:09 TheNewDeal can I choose a specific bet page
23:09 mircea_popescu nah, run of the site.
23:09 TheNewDeal :(
23:11 TheNewDeal is this site updating ? https://btc.waroflife.com/gow/27/
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23:11 assbot Game 27 - Death 3686 Life 6314 Year 824 - War of Life
23:11 TheNewDeal blockchaininfo says we are at 317499
23:12 mircea_popescu ;;later tell mike_c http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-08-2014#809628
23:12 assbot Logged on 26-08-2014 03:11:40; TheNewDeal: is this site updating ? https://btc.waroflife.com/gow/27/
23:12 gribble The operation succeeded.
23:12 TheNewDeal but I wanna bet right now :(
23:17 TheNewDeal bettin blind
23:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 31 @ 0.0217227 = 0.6734 BTC [-]
23:20 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: how is the 'impressions' figure generated ?
23:20 BingoBoingo http://www.goldmark.org/netrants/webstats/
23:20 assbot On interpreting access statistics
23:22 asciilifeform link dead?
23:23 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: naively. whenever a browser requests the iframe, that's logged.
23:23 asciilifeform aha.
23:23 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: one of the goals was to do away with the numerology of web stats.
23:24 * asciilifeform curious if anyone aside from mircea_popescu is bidding
23:24 ben_vulpes BingoBoingo, a bit.
23:29 BingoBoingo Oh, the redditards come out from the USG vegetable garden http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2ekybn/a_law_enforcement_encounter_if_you_ran_a_bitcoin/ck0klt5
23:29 assbot paleh0rse comments on A Law Enforcement Encounter: If you ran a Bitcoin related service before the thing hit $100 you prolly ought to be somewhat concerned and/or prepared
23:30 asciilifeform 'Molly-induced fantasy' << what is the 'molly' in question ?
23:30 * asciilifeform guesses - hallucinogenic pill
23:30 BingoBoingo ;;ud molly
23:30 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=molly | Abr. of 'molecular'. Pure form of MDMA (ecstasy), usually a free powder or in capsules. Oftentimes MDA is sold as molly. Should be white in color (...
23:30 BingoBoingo Oh, just plain old MDMA
23:31 asciilifeform Pure form << what is it customarily mixed with ?
23:31 BingoBoingo Who knows?
23:33 ben_vulpes meth and all sorts of other goodies
23:34 asciilifeform ;;google marquis reagent
23:34 gribble Marquis reagent - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marquis_reagent>; Marquis Reagent Testing Kit | DanceSafe: <http://www.dancesafe.org/product/marquis-reagent-testing-kit/>; Bunk Police Drug Test Kit - General (Marquis) Reagent - Amazon.com: <http://www.amazon.com/Bunk-Police-Drug-Test-Kit/dp/B00EDUN2I0>
23:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.28755 = 0.5751 BTC [-] {2}
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23:54 BingoBoingo !up ragnars
23:55 BingoBoingo !up lolsv
23:55 BingoBoingo !up xanthyos
23:55 BingoBoingo !up mpmcsweeney
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