Show Idle (>14 d.) Chans
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00:03 mircea_popescu course not.
00:06 asciilifeform 'This is actually true, I passed by some twerp here trying to give out flyers of some local thing identifying as a communist party and my principal impulse was to ask him how is he not ashamed of himself.' << i lost count of how many 'radical left party hq' doors i walked past in b-a
00:06 asciilifeform and how many drummers, plaquard-wavers, etc
00:06 asciilifeform what do they eat?
00:07 asciilifeform (i could almost bet they eat better than i!)
00:07 mircea_popescu they probably do.
00:07 mircea_popescu argentina issues bonds.
00:07 mircea_popescu takes the proceeds and pays "salaries" for "public servants"
00:08 mircea_popescu they go out and buy empanadas.
00:08 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: '...these people are already living a degree of magnitude above their means, hallucinating 100's of k's real estate values...' << why such certainty that it is hallucinated? is it possible that american escapees genuinely bid up the cost ?
00:08 mircea_popescu nope.
00:09 mircea_popescu for one, the gringo club is about 50 people.
00:09 asciilifeform waiwut
00:09 asciilifeform i thought there were 5mil of'em or the like
00:09 asciilifeform in there
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00:28 mircea_popescu heh.
00:29 mircea_popescu there's 40mn total. half of them are italians, the other half are lawyers.
00:29 mircea_popescu they can't take money ouyt of the country, so they've decided, in their typical stupidity, that they will "invest" it in local real estate
00:30 mircea_popescu because this is how fucktarded they are : they actually believe that you can conventionally enact investments. "everyone does it"
00:30 mircea_popescu so they pay 2mn pesos for an apartment worth maybe 18k dollars, and they imagine that there's a difference between this and just gifting it to the government.
00:36 asciilifeform they are merely imitating usa
00:36 asciilifeform (why - i do not know)
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01:20 danielpbarron https://twitter.com/bitcoinmom/status/595809810286780416
01:21 danielpbarron "@BryceWeiner Thank you so much for helping Nick invent a digital currency for our local high school. Hope they can make it work"
01:23 cazalla cringe
01:27 cazalla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-05-2015#1126095 <<< alf that is a photoshop, here is the original http://i.imgur.com/kXjdfYa.png
01:27 assbot Logged on 09-05-2015 03:22:34; asciilifeform: ^ colourhitler
01:27 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1KsZShQ )
01:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26828 @ 0.00025884 = 6.9442 BTC [+]
01:42 cazalla http://arstechnica.com/business/2015/05/how-someone-spent-pennies-to-troll-women-people-of-color-via-promoted-tweets/ lulzy shit
01:42 assbot How someone spent “pennies” to troll women, people of color via promoted tweets | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1InlbUC )
01:45 danielpbarron heh, i've been playing around with that
01:47 cazalla pretty sweet that it still displays to be that have blocked you
01:49 mircea_popescu cazalla there's actually a hitler impersonator in timisoara
01:51 danielpbarron the "troll" in that article actually has me blocked
01:52 mircea_popescu amusingly enough, saying that white people should defend themselves / race is dying is a hate thing nao ?
01:53 decimation it's been a hate thing for awhile, at least in the us
01:53 mircea_popescu ridoinculous.
01:54 decimation it goes to the 'love of the distant ideal other' that libertardation promotes
01:55 decimation The corollary being 'hate your kin'
01:55 cazalla danielpbarron, i still don't know if he is serious or trolling with the race shit
01:56 danielpbarron same, his girl friend too
01:56 mircea_popescu cazalla you ever seen that tv series about the people on the bikes ? guy with a suicide attempt gets his own show ?
01:56 decimation who, weev?
02:00 decimation weev's trolling is amusing, doubly so because twitter is desperate for income
02:00 cazalla mircea_popescu, doesn't sound familiar
02:02 mircea_popescu Black Mirror 102, “15 Million Merits”
02:06 mircea_popescu anyway, that's my idea of weev. neither trolling nor not trolling, merely trying to earn a living.
02:07 mircea_popescu the reason the system is so afraid of cohesive ideology is simply this - it knows it can destructure anything else.
02:07 cazalla looks interesting, worth a watch eh?
02:07 mircea_popescu prolly.
02:08 mircea_popescu i only watched that episode of it, but i have no idea how it could be worse than the stuff on tv.
02:08 mircea_popescu at least that shitty "medieval era with magic" thing, what's it called.
02:08 mircea_popescu games something
02:08 mircea_popescu game of thrones.
02:08 decimation 'the system' has achieved certain outcomes w.r.t. distribution of power, and does not care for those who use their levers to take power
02:09 cazalla i don't mind game of thrones heh
02:09 mircea_popescu http://ordinary-gentlemen.com/blog/2015/01/24/black-mirror-season-102-15-million-merits << a pretty decent discussion of it.
02:09 assbot Black Mirror 102, “15 Million Merits” | Ordinary Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1InmCCw )
02:09 cazalla yeah on that page atm
02:09 mircea_popescu "The resilience of this world (as with our own) is that the truth cannot disable it. Even when TV tells you TV is bad for you, you’ll nod and say “that’s so right” and queue up the next episode. This irony is not lost on the producers. “15 Million Merits” is a show about a show about how destructive shows are. We recognize this as truth and congratulate ourselves for noticing. But just like the hapless redh
02:09 mircea_popescu ead trying on virtual helmets on-screen, our insight cannot free us."
02:10 mircea_popescu this'd be the problem. power derived from any sort of relationship with truth is anathema. because yes, truth alone frees no one.
02:10 mircea_popescu nevertheless, power based on it is unsurmountable, for this construct.
02:10 decimation it's gory as hell. what amuses me is that conventional heterosexual intercourse is 'too hot' for HBO, but it's perfectly fine to show murdering
02:10 mircea_popescu kinda why bitcoin is so important. kinda why the gavincoin disarray was so "nobody could have predicted" for the usg side.
02:11 mircea_popescu decimation i thought hbo had pay per view ?
02:11 decimation yeah, but I think that's only for high dollar boxing
02:12 decimation one of my friends made a good point about that 'batman killer' who shot up the theater in denver
02:12 decimation shouldn't the audience have appreciated it? they were watching a simulation of exactly what he acted out
02:13 mircea_popescu power for fetish of power. that's hte point. they do not appreciate it specifically because it is exactly CONTRARY to what they wanted.
02:13 mircea_popescu imagine if the naked woman being spied upon opened the door and invited the voyeur in.
02:13 mircea_popescu "but that's what he was fantasizing about!" "yes. exactly."
02:13 decimation "oh no, I'm not that kind of person to take advantage of a woman"
02:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20750 @ 0.00025884 = 5.3709 BTC [+]
02:13 mircea_popescu not even, just run screaming.
02:16 mircea_popescu anyway, that site's a sort of b-a for libertards, more or less.
02:17 decimation the ordinary gentlemen blog?
02:17 mircea_popescu ys
02:18 decimation yeah it's kinda on the outer ring of 'reactionary' sites as I recall
02:19 mircea_popescu which reactionary ?
02:20 decimation maybe a better description would be 'trying to bring back old republicans'
02:21 mircea_popescu eh, not what i see. i see a bunch of poofters from the various rags trying to act all top shelf & culturful, in their straw hats and bedsheets.
02:21 mircea_popescu this is the left.
02:23 decimation yeah, imma have to read it some more. anyway, I'm going to retire, good evening.
02:27 mircea_popescu http://ordinary-gentlemen.com/blog/2009/11/02/we-are-experiencing-institutional-difficulties < can start there.
02:27 assbot We Are Experiencing Institutional Difficulties | Ordinary Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1InnA1N )
02:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36450 @ 0.00025884 = 9.4347 BTC [+]
02:32 gabriel_laddel <decimation> "oh no, I'm not that kind of person to take advantage of a woman" << lolol
02:32 mircea_popescu an attitude that'll make for some pretty bored and bitter women.
02:34 mircea_popescu in other news, http://33.media.tumblr.com/6d2ae96620d41048abe186a14375834c/tumblr_n11n7sipMv1r3iafjo3_500.gif
02:34 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1InnSFY )
02:36 gabriel_laddel http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=08-05-2015#1125284 << I wish you luck, but ftw I'm not the sort of person to discuss this class of phenomenon. Even with all the disclaimers and knowing that Aaron isn't a fuckwit I still think of his post as "new age BS". I don't exercise, smoke, drink and eat whatever I want.
02:36 assbot Logged on 08-05-2015 16:55:03; pete_dushenski: i'm currently giving 'foundation training' a go. basically simplified yoga to specifically counter the effects of sitting at a computer all day (and all night).
02:37 gabriel_laddel /s/ftw/ftr
02:38 mircea_popescu you ever read hippocratus ?
02:38 gabriel_laddel Nope.
02:39 mircea_popescu curious if it'd also seem new age-y.
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02:48 cazalla is the bitcoin blocksize limit 1,000,000 or 1,048,576 bytes?
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02:49 mircea_popescu ;;calc 1024**2
02:49 gribble 1048576
02:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14997 @ 0.00025884 = 3.8818 BTC [+]
02:50 mircea_popescu !up indiancandy1
02:50 indiancandy1 heey crew
02:51 indiancandy1 mp how r u
02:51 mircea_popescu pretty good.
02:51 indiancandy1 thats gd 2 hear
02:51 indiancandy1 wat u doing
02:51 mircea_popescu reading reports.
02:52 mircea_popescu i live the life of caesar.
03:01 indiancandy1 do you
03:01 indiancandy1 are you having orgies with male and female
03:01 mircea_popescu that's not caesar, that's nero.
03:06 scoopbot_revived Why corruption will never be eliminated, translated. http://www.contravex.com/2015/05/09/why-corruption-will-never-be-eliminated-translated/
03:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25834 @ 0.00025413 = 6.5652 BTC [-]
03:14 indiancandy1 i swear ceaser had orgies
03:15 mircea_popescu mnope.
03:16 indiancandy1 mmmm
03:16 mircea_popescu gjc was a total tightass.
03:16 indiancandy1 ohh
03:16 indiancandy1 i see
03:16 indiancandy1 abit like u
03:16 indiancandy1 LOL
03:16 indiancandy1 joke
03:16 indiancandy1 :P
03:17 mircea_popescu lol
03:17 mircea_popescu so what are you up to ?
03:18 indiancandy1 nothing i was in hospital
03:18 indiancandy1 i had malaria
03:18 indiancandy1 just recovered
03:18 indiancandy1 taking my last dose of chloroquin today
03:19 mircea_popescu in england or in india this ?
03:20 cazalla indiancandy1, was it full blown?
03:20 mircea_popescu i don't think she was ever fully blown.
03:23 mircea_popescu !up indiancandy1
03:24 indiancandy1 i got it in india
03:24 indiancandy1 but i didnt get rid of it
03:24 indiancandy1 and it came back
03:24 indiancandy1 im in england
03:24 indiancandy1 i was in hospital on a drip crying :((
03:24 indiancandy1 which inspired me to stop drinking alcohol
03:26 mircea_popescu interesting.
03:26 mircea_popescu most men start drinking after something like that.
03:27 indiancandy1 well i used to be acoholic
03:27 indiancandy1 and it was fuckin my life up
03:27 indiancandy1 and health
03:27 indiancandy1 i was getting into fights
03:27 mircea_popescu with chicks or with cops ?
03:28 cazalla female cops?
03:28 indiancandy1 people
03:28 indiancandy1 3weeks ago
03:28 indiancandy1 i had a fight
03:28 indiancandy1 i dont even know who with
03:28 indiancandy1 cant remember shit
03:29 indiancandy1 so like yea man im done with that lifestyle sex drugs n rocknroll
03:30 mircea_popescu so what you gonna do now ? take the implants out and join the crochet club ?
03:31 indiancandy1 what implats
03:32 indiancandy1 my boobs are real boo
03:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16550 @ 0.00025758 = 4.2629 BTC [+]
03:32 mircea_popescu ah ?
03:41 indiancandy1 yes
03:41 indiancandy1 all natural
03:43 * mircea_popescu tries to remember
03:45 indiancandy1 lol
03:45 indiancandy1 they are
03:45 indiancandy1 im thinking of buying some btc
03:46 mircea_popescu funny what going dry does to people.
03:46 mircea_popescu you hear that cazalla ?
03:47 indiancandy1 LOL
03:47 cazalla sounds like a good move
03:47 indiancandy1 well i used 2 spend atleast 1000 pounds a month
03:47 indiancandy1 on nightlife
03:47 indiancandy1 now i can buy some btc
03:48 cazalla i thought girls drink free?
03:48 mircea_popescu dude... you might be the first aspiring starlet / camgirl with ~natural~ tits that actually paid.
03:48 mircea_popescu wtf's wrong with you.
03:48 indiancandy1 lol
03:48 indiancandy1 i dont like to entertain people for no reason
03:48 indiancandy1 i get easily irritated
03:49 indiancandy1 just for a drink no thanks il buy my own
03:49 mircea_popescu o.O
03:50 indiancandy1 lol
03:50 mircea_popescu well... if drinks are still 5-ish quid a pop, you did end up buying a bunch.
03:50 indiancandy1 i used to drink alot and no
03:50 indiancandy1 in london where i used to gout
03:50 indiancandy1 £8 t £15
03:50 indiancandy1 varies
03:51 indiancandy1 but yea a hell of a lot of alcohol consumed
03:52 mircea_popescu in other news : agrippina the younger married (ahenobarbus) at the age of 13.
03:52 mircea_popescu he was 45.
03:53 indiancandy1 wat
03:55 mircea_popescu !up indiancandy1
03:58 indiancandy1 i got fevern:(
03:58 indiancandy1 fever
03:59 mircea_popescu and the only prescription is more cowbell!
03:59 mircea_popescu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idO3VjT8sjk
03:59 assbot I got a fever, and the only prescription, is more cowbell! - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1IqSQeB )
04:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39500 @ 0.00025945 = 10.2483 BTC [+] {2}
04:08 indiancandy1 is that jolies dad
04:08 indiancandy1 maybe not
04:08 mircea_popescu it's christopher walken
04:10 indiancandy1 yh i realised after
04:10 cazalla indiancandy1, that's jon voight
04:10 cazalla the actor, not the dentist in case you google it
04:11 mircea_popescu what voigt!
04:12 indiancandy1 yesss
04:12 indiancandy1 u need to get snapchat
04:15 mircea_popescu why ?
04:16 indiancandy1 funnnn
04:17 mircea_popescu o hey, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-07-2014#744043 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-07-2014#743686 i believe you, those look natural enough.
04:17 assbot Logged on 04-07-2014 13:24:34; indiancandy1: http://imgur.com/8u8eZ1e
04:17 assbot Logged on 04-07-2014 12:20:48; indiancandy1: http://imgur.com/JlzKjcw
04:22 indiancandy1 ?????????????
04:22 mircea_popescu that's you innit ?
04:22 indiancandy1 yh blud
04:23 indiancandy1 i got fever i cant take paracetamol
04:23 indiancandy1 coz i have 2 wait 2hours after i take chlorooquine
04:23 indiancandy1 (
04:23 indiancandy1 :(
04:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.00025981 = 1.9226 BTC [+]
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05:42 davout http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-05-2015#1125990 <<< lol, where's that from?
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05:42 assbot Logged on 09-05-2015 01:42:24; danielpbarron: "This is frustrating; from a clean slate analysis of network health I think my conclusion would be to _decrease_ the limit below the current 300k/txn/day level." << I concur; 1MB is probably too large a block
05:43 davout http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-05-2015#1126006 <<< lol wtf
05:43 assbot Logged on 09-05-2015 02:24:23; mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXNy0JeBchk davout :D
05:48 davout http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-05-2015#1126121 <<< priceless
05:48 assbot Logged on 09-05-2015 03:35:27; asciilifeform: my favourite apocryphal scene is where a german general, seeing french flags, asked 'did we lose to -them- as well' ?
05:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21150 @ 0.00025411 = 5.3744 BTC [-] {2}
05:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33100 @ 0.00025859 = 8.5593 BTC [+] {3}
06:03 davout http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-05-2015#1126255 <<< rkn it's 1,000,000
06:03 assbot Logged on 09-05-2015 06:48:43; cazalla: is the bitcoin blocksize limit 1,000,000 or 1,048,576 bytes?
06:06 davout cazalla: the commit -> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/a30b56ebe76ffff9f9cc8a6667186179413c6349
06:06 assbot fix openssl linkage problems, · bitcoin/bitcoin@a30b56e · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1P7Gdur )
06:07 davout funnily enough, the commit message doesn't even mention it
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06:34 davout ;;later tell pete_dushenski in your corruption article s/lisense/license/
06:34 gribble The operation succeeded.
06:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18724 @ 0.00025744 = 4.8203 BTC [-] {2}
06:36 fluffypony davout: am I seeing you on the 21st? https://forum.getmonero.org/14/events/277/monero-meetup-paris-france-may-21th-2015
06:36 assbot Monero | Events » Monero Meetup: Paris, France - May 21th, 2015 ... ( http://bit.ly/1zN9rrq )
06:38 davout fluffypony: http://i.imgur.com/PqjYz42.png
06:38 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1zN9y6B )
06:39 fluffypony sweet
06:39 fluffypony now all we need is pankkake and Apocalyptic and it's a party
06:40 davout fluffypony: pankkake is MIA and AFAIK Apocalyptic doesn't reside in France
06:41 fluffypony I know, pankkake has been gone from our lives for nearly a year
06:41 fluffypony may he rest in pieces
06:41 davout lol
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07:47 cazalla http://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/35c4pg/introducing_the_bitcoin_isp_invitation_only/ lol
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07:47 assbot Introducing the Bitcoin ISP: invitation only, unknown hardware, no owned IP space, owner chooses the Linux distro, and support is only available on IRC by a lazy neckbeard. : Buttcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1H8u30j )
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08:59 gabriel_laddel http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=08-05-2015#1125516 << context: funkenstein_ was commenting a while back that jews are overrepresented in banking and then released a blog post (http://frass.woodcoin.org/intelligence-is-caused-by-big-feet-obesity-by-genetics/) that starts with "You may have some idea in your mind that things like cancer, intelligence, and obesity are in some way caused by genetics. By the time y
08:59 assbot Logged on 08-05-2015 18:38:08; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-05-2015#1125148 << it's valid, but misleading. most of dna is "junk", or otherwise put "not directly obvious it actually does anything"
08:59 gabriel_laddel ou are done reading this post, I hope you will no longer labour under this gross misconception."
09:04 gabriel_laddel ;; gettrust funkenstein_
09:04 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user gabriel_laddel to user funkenstein_: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=gabriel_laddel&dest=funkenstein_ | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=funkenstein_ | Rated since: never
09:06 gabriel_laddel ;; rate funkenstein_ -1 author of a silly blogpost that reviews none of the assorted literature on the topic of choice, dances around the idea that perhaps experimental design is important and finally fails to conclude anything of significance.
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09:06 gribble Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system.
09:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31161 @ 0.00026177 = 8.157 BTC [+] {2}
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10:23 decimation my impression of the uk is that they are the world's biggest group of drunks
10:24 decimation http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-05-2015#1125231 < also keep in mind, grapes don't grow very well in cold northern europe (aside from river valleys)
10:24 assbot Logged on 08-05-2015 16:15:33; mircea_popescu: anyway, the great love of beer in europe almost exactly maps to the late imperial recruiting grounds in europe.
10:25 decimation in the same way, the early us was cursed with the root louse that ate wine roots - they became a 'beer culture' by default
10:26 decimation heh 'wine roots' = 'grape roots'
10:26 decimation except they found they could graft european grapes on top of american rootstock - this is how nearly all wine grapes are grown today
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11:16 pete_dushenski davout: got it, fixed it, cheers !
11:17 pete_dushenski mike_c very kind of you to suggest me. lemme take a look at ol' usgavin's latest hatchet job and see if there's a qntra article lying in wait.
11:30 danielpbarron http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-05-2015#1126380 << gmaxwell's email on the power ranger mailing list -> https://archive.is/zsz7l#selection-443.2600-443.2759
11:30 assbot Logged on 09-05-2015 09:42:36; davout: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-05-2015#1125990 <<< lol, where's that from?
11:30 assbot Bitcoin / Mailing Lists ... ( http://bit.ly/1EqV5ZB )
11:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8547 @ 0.00026198 = 2.2391 BTC [+]
11:49 funkenstein_ gabriel_laddel, I said no such thing. This is a public log.
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12:23 punkman http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/27366/45/
12:23 assbot MINA Breaking News - Situation calm after Kosovo terror group in Kumanovo started Firefight with Police ... ( http://bit.ly/1Er2LLm )
12:37 mircea_popescu how's teh coolaid this mornin'
12:38 davout feels like a coolaid bukkake these days tbh
12:38 mircea_popescu lol
12:38 mircea_popescu warmaid
12:39 mircea_popescu davout re the youtube : this very weird absurdist romanian comedian. i'm a fan. regularly comes up with indescribably weird shit, rarely sahre-able cause rarely in an actually spoken language.
12:41 mircea_popescu +static const unsigned int MAX_BLOCK_SIZE = 1000000; heh right you are.
12:42 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-05-2015#1126409 << have these people actually ~even seen~ my beard ? i wish to know who the fuck has a more respectable beard than me. hegel ?
12:42 assbot Logged on 09-05-2015 11:47:08; cazalla: http://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/35c4pg/introducing_the_bitcoin_isp_invitation_only/ lol
12:42 mircea_popescu marx is not even in the same fucking ballpark.
12:43 davout i have to concur here, you could fit food for a small african village in mircea's beard
12:44 mircea_popescu well... not so much small as thin, but yeah.
12:45 mircea_popescu i have had domestic accidents where barefoot slave stepped on beardhair on floor, hurt her foot, thing had to be cut out with wire cutters.
12:46 davout kek
12:47 mircea_popescu "Technically a hosting company is an ISP They provide Internet Serivces" / "Don't be pedantic. ISP has a meaning that goes beyond its words."
12:47 mircea_popescu reddit delivers.
12:47 mircea_popescu "we are so right because we agree with each other on things! what things ? don't be pedantic. we're right in a way that goes beyond words!"
12:47 scoopbot_revived The horror that is Ubuntu http://trilema.com/2015/the-horror-that-is-ubuntu/
12:47 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-05-2015#1126024
12:47 assbot Logged on 09-05-2015 02:34:43; asciilifeform: as to dog 'food' means 'dog food', to homo derpicus - 'isp' means his local telecom monopolist
12:47 mircea_popescu asciilifeform yup. quite exactly.
12:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43600 @ 0.00025349 = 11.0522 BTC [-] {3}
12:49 mircea_popescu "well technically an ISP is a service provided to the internet, like a phone service provider is one that provides phone service. Not services 'on' the internet, but to/from it, just a someone with a phone number is not a 'phone service provider', he is just some dude with a phone. Internet service provider provides internet services, hosting service provides hosting services. They are different."
12:49 mircea_popescu technically.
12:50 mircea_popescu anyway, major butthurt level for some incomprehensible reason.
12:52 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-05-2015#1126419 << does this have anything to do with jews in banking or is that chekov's gun gonna just hang ?
12:52 assbot Logged on 09-05-2015 13:06:41; gabriel_laddel: ;; rate funkenstein_ -1 author of a silly blogpost that reviews none of the assorted literature on the topic of choice, dances around the idea that perhaps experimental design is important and finally fails to conclude anything of significance.
12:54 mircea_popescu danielpbarron sheeeit... that selection thing is the tits. how the hell does it work ?
12:55 mircea_popescu omfg im in love
12:56 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: "We wan't to kill them, not be them." << uh wan't ?
12:56 mircea_popescu lol
12:56 mircea_popescu oops
12:57 pete_dushenski lol i suck at romanian, you suck at english ?
12:57 danielpbarron you just select stuff and it updates the url
12:58 mircea_popescu this shit's beautiful
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13:22 pete_dushenski ;;later tell BingoBoingo qntsideration : http://dpaste.com/2NH38QP.txt
13:22 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1P8BWaa )
13:22 gribble The operation succeeded.
13:23 pete_dushenski ^re: usgavin's retreat.
13:24 pete_dushenski "The canonical example is that intelligence is correlated with foot size. It's a fact." << i'm currently a size 11.5, was once 12.5... am i stupider now than i was then ?
13:25 pete_dushenski i'd like to think not.
13:25 pete_dushenski foot shrinkage was an unexpected consequence of dropping 40lbs+
13:26 pete_dushenski this, about 4 years ago now.
13:26 * asciilifeform lulz at argentines marching in ru victory day parade
13:26 asciilifeform b3st phr13ndz 4ever
13:26 pete_dushenski "anyone but the british !"
13:27 pete_dushenski my enemy's enemy is...
13:27 asciilifeform wonder if the germans will ask 'did we lose to -them- also'
13:27 pete_dushenski nah, germans have a memory
13:27 pete_dushenski argentines are too new to have sufficient perspective and context
13:28 pete_dushenski much like canadians in that respect
13:29 pete_dushenski "let's vote in socialists because we've never had them before and we've always wanted them !"
13:30 pete_dushenski ;;later tell cazalla and yours ! http://dpaste.com/1N6D6PB.txt
13:30 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1KTyjPu )
13:30 gribble The operation succeeded.
13:30 scoopbot_revived Gavin Backs Off Blocksize: Scapegoats Memory, UTXO Set http://qntra.net/2015/05/gavin-backs-off-blocksize-scapegoats-memory-utxo-set/
13:30 pete_dushenski heh. nm cazalla !
13:31 pete_dushenski BingoBoingo: thx bb ! and wd on the title ;)
13:31 BingoBoingo You're welcome
13:32 danielpbarron it's possible to encrypt a message to multiple keys at once, or is this not a good practice?
13:33 pete_dushenski and... *instant* trackback from qntra to contravex. good fucking god wordpress is inconsistent.
13:33 pete_dushenski danielpbarron: i believe this is only in newer versions of gpg ?
13:34 mircea_popescu danielpbarron it's possible. not good practice in the sense that now more people can see it.
13:34 mircea_popescu pete_dushenski nah
13:34 pete_dushenski ah my mistake then.
13:35 pete_dushenski chalk one up under 'best practise' and ignore the fact that i didn't think it could be done on 1.4.x :)
13:37 pete_dushenski i loooove it when a derpy commenter drops a payload like this on my lap : http://www.contravex.com/2015/02/11/the-economics-of-sinking-20-mb-gavincoin-blocks/#comment-17319
13:37 assbot The economics of sinking 20 MB Gavincoin blocks. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1KTyKJP )
13:37 pete_dushenski " If you want to be a global payment network you should act like one. Mike Hearn makes it clear" etc.
13:37 pete_dushenski pure comedy gold.
13:38 mircea_popescu such derpage. the situation here isn't that fiat is in control, defines the words, and bitcoin aims to please.
13:39 mircea_popescu nobody gives a shit what fiat thinks "a payment network" is like.
13:39 pete_dushenski clearly.
13:39 mircea_popescu bitcoin IS the payment network. get with the program, get crushed, whatevs.
13:39 danielpbarron great piece pete_dushenski. I loled a few times
13:39 pete_dushenski danielpbarron: haha thanks :D
13:40 pete_dushenski and thank mike_c for putting me up to it !
13:42 pete_dushenski "Theorem 5: Jewish genetics cause superior intellect" << clearly, it's the converse that's true, funkenstein_ ;)
13:44 pete_dushenski "News flash: Culture is not genetic!" << guess it depends on what's meant by "culture". if you mean whether you eat for chopsticks or your hands, then sure, but if you mean predispositions for music, languages, fine arts, etc, it's less clear.
13:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20327 @ 0.00025952 = 5.2753 BTC [+]
13:45 pete_dushenski then again, who the fuck really understands genetics ? certainly not 'the scientists'
13:46 pete_dushenski "Anyway, correlation is not causation." << granted, funkenstein_, but some of these examples are a bit out to lunch.
13:53 pete_dushenski off to the farmer's market. bbiab.
14:07 davout pete_dushenski: s/undettered/undeterred/
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14:08 davout what am i? the fucking ms office paperclip?
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14:08 davout :D
14:08 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2015/the-horror-that-is-ubuntu/#selection-135.16-135.56 << check this shit out!
14:08 assbot The horror that is Ubuntu on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1dU5RlS )
14:09 asciilifeform ^ does nothing here
14:10 mircea_popescu gotta js
14:11 hanbot davout: It looks like you're having an existential crisis. Would you like some help?
14:11 mircea_popescu if you would like some help, press H now.
14:11 * asciilifeform presses 'any' key
14:12 * davout clicks on the "Solve computer problems" button
14:12 mircea_popescu 24
14:12 asciilifeform affectionately remembered as 'аникей'
14:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13227 @ 0.00025826 = 3.416 BTC [-]
14:13 davout with every day that passes the "get actual computer, fuck with gentoo" item climbs higher and higher on my todo list
14:16 davout so, in my quest to getting the pogoplug working i'm at the step where i'm trying to get it to create an ext2 FS on the attached SATA drive
14:17 davout after fdisk'ing a new partition on it, and toggling the MKFS option in the buildroot config I can now "# busybox mkfs.ext2 /dev/sda1"
14:18 davout however I'm stuck getting "mkfs.ext2: lseek: Value too large for defined data type" which I've no idea how to solve :/
14:18 mircea_popescu ext4 ? how large is your dfrive
14:20 davout it's 120g
14:21 asciilifeform davout: known (to me) bug, presently i have no idea what caused
14:21 asciilifeform !s ext2 lseek
14:21 assbot 0 results for 'ext2 lseek' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=ext2+lseek
14:21 asciilifeform hm
14:22 davout i added "CONFIG_MKFS_EXT2=y" in busybox.config
14:22 davout ah
14:23 davout i also just added "CONFIG_FDISK_SUPPORT_LARGE_DISKS=y", maybe if i remove and re-add the partition it'll work
14:23 davout because the partition was initially made without this option
14:25 davout hrm, still does not work
14:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10344 @ 0.00025924 = 2.6816 BTC [+] {2}
14:30 davout maybe #busybox will have some input
14:30 davout kinda problematic if we can't initialize a blank drive from the pogo itself
14:35 davout creating a smaller partition does not work either
14:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17900 @ 0.00026026 = 4.6587 BTC [+]
14:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18700 @ 0.00026101 = 4.8809 BTC [+]
14:48 davout ok, trying with CONFIG_LFS flipped on
14:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17050 @ 0.00026105 = 4.4509 BTC [+] {2}
15:02 scoopbot_revived That spiffy selection thing. http://trilema.com/2015/that-spiffy-selection-thing/
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15:25 whaack Is there a reason you guys spell opinion oppinion in http://thebitcoin.foundation/declaration.txt ?
15:25 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1bGpYSC )
15:26 whaack Is there a subtlety that the correct spelling of a word is, well, an oppinion and not a fact?
15:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12435 @ 0.00026115 = 3.2474 BTC [+]
15:27 whaack Or did I read too deep into that?
15:28 danielpbarron https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFqd81EMwj8
15:28 assbot Homer's BBBQ - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1bGqjom )
15:28 BingoBoingo whaack: Distinct hazard of reading here. Sometime a person reads too deep, othertimes too shallow.
15:29 whaack Well I say my analysis is good regardless of the intentions of the author
15:30 mircea_popescu whaack nah i just can't spell
15:31 asciilifeform 'Which means that specific parts will have to be highlighted later on, to be re-digested like those kernels of corn that you sometimes have to pick out of the toilet and eat all over again' << win
15:31 mircea_popescu :D
15:32 asciilifeform as cazalla no doubt knows well, leporidae actually do this
15:32 asciilifeform (obligate coprophagiacs!)
15:32 mircea_popescu gotta feed the /r/buttheads
15:36 asciilifeform woah, product is almost 30M now
15:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16750 @ 0.00026161 = 4.382 BTC [+] {2}
15:38 asciilifeform davout: kinda problematic if we can't initialize a blank drive from the pogo itself << yes, this will -have- to be fixed. but either a) later or b) someone not me
15:38 mircea_popescu apparently someone's been ddosing trilema. herp.
15:39 asciilifeform wai wat, there are times when -no one- is ddosing trilema ?
15:39 mircea_popescu yes actually.
15:39 * asciilifeform floored
15:40 mircea_popescu it's really a fringe phenomenon.
15:41 asciilifeform how's that
15:42 mircea_popescu in the sense that it's not common.
15:42 mircea_popescu attempts to bruteforce ssh credentials, for instance, are ubiquitous.
15:42 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: those are largely automatic - in the sense that every box that successfully breaks open gets to participate in the next round
15:43 mircea_popescu yup.
15:43 asciilifeform some of these are, properly speaking, 'worms' in the sense of needing no living operator at all
15:43 mircea_popescu at any rate, today i have ~70k lines of 185.11.147.17 - - [09/May/2015:11:54:35 -0400] "POST /xmlrpc.php HTTP/1.0" 200 54 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; http://www.google.com/bot.html)"
15:43 assbot Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 ... ( http://bit.ly/1bGsqc0 )
15:43 asciilifeform doomed to derp for all eternity
15:43 mircea_popescu which is kindalulzy.
15:44 asciilifeform if tired of this, 'fail2ban' or the like.
15:44 mircea_popescu yeah, but i prefer to watch.
15:45 * asciilifeform just came back from 2h of watching cats hunt birds from hammock. so grasps this.
15:45 mircea_popescu did they catch anything ?
15:46 asciilifeform as a matter of fact, they did.
15:46 mircea_popescu yeah. they do more often than people realise.
15:47 asciilifeform the interesting thing re: ssh bruteforcers is the implication
15:47 asciilifeform i.e. that there is ample supply of morons with guessable pw
15:48 mircea_popescu or that not many are needed.
15:49 mircea_popescu however... look at the count of DSA 1kb keys IN THE STRONG SET
15:49 asciilifeform funnily enough, i haven't seen a single ssh bruteforcebot on my regular boxes since moving ssh to nonstandard ports. did not expect this to have any effect, but it did. vanished. evidently the 'ancient art' of port scan has been forgotten? go figure.
15:49 mircea_popescu not worth the hassle.
15:50 * asciilifeform reads logs regularly and does not enjoy seeing them filled with megs of derp
15:50 mircea_popescu if you know enough to move it, no longer interesting target.
15:50 asciilifeform i sorta imagined that lamers might move the port instead of setting up keyed auth or whatnot
15:50 asciilifeform and that it would make for a -more- enticing target
15:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12212 @ 0.00026115 = 3.1892 BTC [-]
15:51 mircea_popescu nah. i imagine the ideal box from this perspective is something that hasn't been touched since 1999
15:51 mircea_popescu because odds are it will continue to exist through 2020, and just as untouched
15:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35000 @ 0.00026198 = 9.1693 BTC [+]
15:52 asciilifeform '99 might even be home to the original ssh meda-deathbug
15:52 asciilifeform *mega-
15:54 asciilifeform http://cryptome.org/2015/05/force-026-022.pdf << mega-l0l, more carl force crud
15:56 asciilifeform ^ lays out (claimed) personal finances
15:57 mircea_popescu anything good ?
15:59 mircea_popescu http://www.contravex.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Gavin-Andresen-Satoshi-costume.jpg << camho in that pic always good for a chuckle.
15:59 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1bGub99 )
15:59 mircea_popescu the camera led -> open mouth reflex.
16:00 mircea_popescu pete_dushenski "much superior " is not english yo. muchly. vastly. something.
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16:00 mircea_popescu also, it would be nice if you sourced the "More transactions means more memory for the UTXO database" objection correctly.
16:02 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-04-2015#1092279
16:02 assbot Logged on 08-04-2015 20:33:20; mircea_popescu: note that this is one of the majorest issues lurking in the "larger blocks"
16:02 mircea_popescu it was discussed on #bitcoin-assets long before the various bottom feeders posing as "technical" something or the other caught wind of it.
16:03 mircea_popescu and yo, various derps : next time you read something on the log, don't just run off and repackage it as your own thing, like some sort of idiot third worlder. link it to its source, that's how the giants were made upon whose shoulders your midget parents made you scum.
16:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7350 @ 0.00026198 = 1.9256 BTC [+]
16:06 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: who is the chick in the photo ?
16:07 asciilifeform and why is gavin wearing camera lens caps for glasses
16:07 trinque because that's what a chief scientist looks like
16:07 trinque plays well with the kids
16:07 asciilifeform with... pipe clamp ?
16:08 trinque look at the happy skank to his immediate left
16:08 mircea_popescu asciilifeform random conference goer.
16:08 asciilifeform woah, conferences with gurlz
16:08 * asciilifeform heard of those
16:09 mircea_popescu it's usually for cars, cosmetics, dumb shit like that.
16:10 asciilifeform on what planet are gurlz into cars ?
16:10 mircea_popescu they get paid to be there.
16:10 asciilifeform aha those.
16:10 mircea_popescu same with porn conferences.
16:12 mircea_popescu http://www.buzzfeed.com/gabrielsanchez/photos-from-the-avn-adult-expo << kinda one of the top perks employers give to the "online journalist" crowd.
16:12 assbot 49 Insane Photos From The World's Largest Porn Convention ... ( http://bit.ly/1Fch7pB )
16:15 asciilifeform l0l!
16:16 trinque some bum's shouting about revolution on the corner
16:16 trinque ... is this how it begins?
16:17 ben_vulpes nah, the weather's too nice
16:17 trinque heh
16:22 mircea_popescu dude the world is awash in fat, lazy, drab female "stand-up comedians" with delusions of political ideas.
16:22 mircea_popescu when the shit did this happen.
16:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8143 @ 0.00026198 = 2.1333 BTC [+]
16:27 ben_vulpes <davout> [18:12] with every day that passes the "get actual computer, fuck with gentoo" item climbs higher and higher on my todo list << davout if you can figure out what an "actual computer" is, let me know
16:34 trinque I'm workin on my gentoo bootstrap script today
16:49 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-05-2015#1126522 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-05-2015#1126621 << if only i had editing rights on qntra, i'd s/undettered/undeterred/ and add "oh-so" instead of "much" in front of "superior"
16:49 assbot Logged on 09-05-2015 18:07:55; davout: pete_dushenski: s/undettered/undeterred/
16:49 assbot Logged on 09-05-2015 20:00:11; mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski "much superior " is not english yo. muchly. vastly. something.
16:50 pete_dushenski also, it wasn't at all clear where googley eyes borrowed "More transactions means more memory for the UTXO database" from, but i agree, mircea_popescu, log quotes should be in there.
17:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17234 @ 0.00026115 = 4.5007 BTC [-]
17:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30550 @ 0.00026101 = 7.9739 BTC [-] {2}
17:11 pete_dushenski "“Don’t vote! None have the right to legislate except Allah,” read one of dozens of bills splayed on car windshields outside the St. Saviour’s polling station in the east London constituency of Poplar and Limehouse. " << that's one angle from which to poke holes in popular democracy, i guess
17:12 pete_dushenski "any Muslim political candidate who sought to represent the issues most keenly felt by his fellow co-religionists – for example, solidarity with the Palestinian cause – risked being demonized and labelled an extremist."
17:13 pete_dushenski "Popular British-Bangladeshi politician Lutfur Rahman was kicked out of office after being found guilty of corruption and illegal practices. Mr. Rahman has publically denied the charges and his supporters have accused the ex-mayor’s critics of racism and Islamophobia." << those racialists !
17:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18950 @ 0.00026199 = 4.9647 BTC [+]
17:16 pete_dushenski https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRGC-5LjJ2M << "is it coz i is black ?"
17:16 assbot Ali G racialist - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1FcovRV )
17:20 Naphex pete_dushenski: doez yoo think the media have changed?:)
17:21 pete_dushenski lol "i have 50 books on the english language if you need to borrow one"
17:32 Naphex pete_dushenski: https://youtu.be/WXhyD0QOw6s?t=1289 is a classic one too :D lmao
17:32 assbot Da Ali G Show - USA (FULL) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Fcpzp2 )
17:33 pete_dushenski totally.
17:40 pete_dushenski http://www.commieobama.com/pages/hat_info.html << damn, ushanka with 'leninade' sold out.
17:40 assbot Commie Obama Rally Cap ... ( http://bit.ly/1ANCtme )
17:45 pete_dushenski "President Obama (both a graduate from the Ivy League and Nobel prize winner) is neither smart, nor a noteworthy peace maker. But that doesn't matter. The left has won over the key voting boards to give him these now-plastic trophies which dupes enough Americans into voting him (and other talentless leftists) into office." << notbad.
17:47 pete_dushenski "Unfortunately, this facade is not going to last. And the reason is very simple. The internet.The internet is breaking the left's grip on the scams these awards have become. "
17:47 pete_dushenski ok, ima invite this guy over.
17:54 pete_dushenski ah, "awaiting comment moderation"
17:55 pete_dushenski in any event, please to !up "captaincapitalism" if he makes his way here.
17:55 pete_dushenski http://captaincapitalism.blogspot.ca/ << him.
17:55 assbot Captain Capitalism ... ( http://bit.ly/1ANEdMh )
17:57 mircea_popescu "Obama is neither smart nor a noteworthy peace maker. But that doesn't matter. The left has won over the key voting boards to give him these now-plastic trophies." << that part is exact.
17:57 pete_dushenski quite so.
17:59 bitstein mircea_popescu: https://twitter.com/NakamotoInst/status/597158847103442944
18:00 mircea_popescu $ curl -I http://thethug.life/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/giant.png
18:00 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1ANEGOp )
18:00 mircea_popescu Content-Length: 2068032
18:00 mircea_popescu dude williamdunne you can't be serious!
18:01 mircea_popescu bitstein hey, cool
18:01 pete_dushenski eek, i thought 1/10th of that on my previous header image was bad.
18:01 pete_dushenski new golfing header image is only 69,813 bytes
18:02 bitstein Right? That blog post of yours made my afternoon.
18:02 pete_dushenski bitstein: the gavin one ?
18:02 williamdunne mircea_popescu: mmm probably ought to reduce that number
18:02 pete_dushenski bitstein: a nm, mp's !
18:04 williamdunne I was just moving it over to wordpress yesterday
18:04 williamdunne Not done yet
18:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18201 @ 0.00025853 = 4.7055 BTC [-] {3}
18:10 Naphex pete_dushenski: found this on your blog http://www.fooledbyrandomness.com/GIF.pdf it was just what i needed atm. awesome thanks! :P
18:11 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1ANFRNO )
18:12 cazalla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-05-2015#1126523 <<< fixed, thanks clippy
18:12 assbot Logged on 09-05-2015 18:08:33; davout: what am i? the fucking ms office paperclip?
18:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9937 @ 0.00026199 = 2.6034 BTC [+]
18:16 pete_dushenski Naphex: thank taleb !
18:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31298 @ 0.00026199 = 8.1998 BTC [+]
18:19 decimation lol http://captaincapitalism.blogspot.ca/2015/05/im-officially-predicting-recessionbut.html < us is gonna have another recession soon
18:19 assbot Captain Capitalism: I'm Officially Predicting Recession...But... ... ( http://bit.ly/1dUqSwN )
18:20 decimation turns out 2% growth is the 'new normal' and a good chunk of that is simply due to inviting the third world to move here and spend usd
18:21 cazalla decimation, i use to read his stuff but i think he has an over-inflated sense of his own intelligence (some IQ video of his rubbed me the wrong way.. coulda been this, coulda been that, coulda been a dr type shit)
18:22 cazalla pete_dushenski, fixed and added oh-so
18:22 decimation yeah, he probably posts more noise than signal from a brief overview
18:23 decimation are you with funkenstein - there's no genetic basis for IQ?
18:24 cazalla i wouldn't have a clue nor do i care, i just want to garden ok
18:24 decimation heh fair enough
18:25 decimation I would recommend watching this series: http://www.pellebilling.com/2011/12/norwegian-comedian-challenges-myths-about-nature-versus-nurture/
18:25 assbot Norwegian Comedian Challenges Myths About Nature Versus Nurture Pelle Billing ... ( http://bit.ly/1dUreDv )
18:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27750 @ 0.00025279 = 7.0149 BTC [-] {2}
18:27 jurov $depth x.eur
18:27 jurov !depth x.eur
18:27 cazalla fwiw, i think it's a combination of the two but then again, some kids will do well regardless of which family they find themselves born into so who knows, i'm trying the nurture thing with my son so we'll see
18:28 jurov !t m x.eur
18:28 assbot [MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0.00464884 / 0.00465496 / 0.00468076 (125 shares, 0.58 BTC), 7D: 0.00464884 / 0.00475938 / 0.00493174 (1467 shares, 6.98 BTC), 30D: 0.00441189 / 0.00460537 / 0.00497501 (6442 shares, 29.67 BTC)
18:28 jurov !mpif
18:28 assbot BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021367 B (Total: 467.26 B). Delta: -0.18 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.000206 BTC [-]
18:29 decimation cazalla: I agree, the question is merely 'what is the ratio'? 80% nature? 50/50? The answer isn't obvious, but the evidence seems to tilt toward 'mostly genetic, some nurture'
18:30 decimation ;;ticker
18:30 gribble Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 244.0, Best ask: 244.01, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 244.0, 24 hour volume: 18972.17104936, 24 hour low: 240.1, 24 hour high: 249.21, 24 hour vwap: None
18:32 jurov nah, it's all the about celestial body constellations at birth
18:34 cazalla jurov, some people believe that :\ missus has a friend that takes her 3 year olds to get their chi flowing
18:34 pete_dushenski cazalla: cheers !
18:35 jurov sounds dangerously close to pedo
18:36 cazalla nah, chinese herbs and acupuncture
18:36 cazalla but if you were a pedo, it would make for a great cloak to guise yourself in
18:37 decimation cazalla, regarding nurture, it seems to me that the 'sure thing' is teaching skills like reading, languages, manual skills, etc
18:41 mircea_popescu decimation how did you exclude "divine blessing" from your formula ?
18:42 cazalla decimation, i'd include proper food (i prepare nearly all the meals for my son) and some adversity, too many kids being nurtured to death these days
18:42 decimation "divine blessing" has nothing to do with worldly outcomes
18:42 mircea_popescu what, apodictically ?
18:43 decimation cazalla: agreed, kids need to figure stuff out themselves
18:43 mircea_popescu if you do that, what's to impede funkenstain from excluding genetics consideration from "wordly outcomes" ?
18:43 mircea_popescu after all, genetics is a statistical approach, you're discussing individuals.
18:43 decimation absolutely. still, one would have to explain the twins studies
18:44 mircea_popescu point remains, it's at best strange to be trying to split percents when you've not even produced a rigurous set of factors.
18:44 decimation how can anything involving humanity be split into factors? it's all a wag
18:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26778 @ 0.00025272 = 6.7673 BTC [-]
18:45 mircea_popescu i suppose so
18:45 mircea_popescu then at most you can say is, nurture 2x as important as nature. youcan't say 66%/33%
18:46 decimation agreed, that's a more precise wording. "Nature seems to have a stronger effect than nurture in a variety of situations"
18:47 mircea_popescu anyway, for the sake of bothering you, let me propose an equivalent model.
18:47 mircea_popescu so : suppose we're looking at a recipient of defined gas, and each molecule's "iq" is its kinetic momentum.
18:47 mircea_popescu so... is type or circumstance more impactful in the iq of a given molecule ?
18:47 mircea_popescu 1) the "iq"s are distributed normally
18:48 mircea_popescu 2) if the recipient is full of identical molecules... you STILL get normal distribution of "IQ"
18:48 mircea_popescu what now ?
18:49 mircea_popescu the flagon full of hydrogen is a very boring Africa of "IQ" because it never produces the fun looking lasers other compositions produce.
18:49 decimation little can be said, until one encounters another defined gas with a different mean
18:49 mircea_popescu (clearly, mixing all the gases together into multigasualism is the solution!"
18:49 mircea_popescu (also clearly, chlorine's refusal to miscegenate with oxigen is racism!)
18:50 decimation heh
18:51 decimation even socialist professors admit that people generally 'have worse outcomes' in a situation where they are surrounded by other humans unlike themselves
18:51 mircea_popescu in short : the complexities involved in this matter are properly wovon
18:52 mircea_popescu heh, i have been surrounded by humans unlike myself my entire life.
18:52 decimation the best one can do is try to find 'natural experiments' like twins, but I'm sure with enough study of the details there one could find plenty of subtle 'unlikenesses' between supposedly identical twins
18:54 mircea_popescu for that matter - all brothers are mithocondrial twins.
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19:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73900 @ 0.00026224 = 19.3795 BTC [+] {2}
19:30 pete_dushenski !up jordandotdev
19:31 pete_dushenski what's new, jordandotdev ?
19:31 jordandotdev notta living in San Francisco...fighting the good fight
19:32 pete_dushenski what do you do in sanfran ?
19:32 jordandotdev Software engineer
19:32 jordandotdev doing NGO work right now
19:32 jordandotdev consulting...
19:32 pete_dushenski like software consulting ?
19:32 jordandotdev yeah
19:32 jordandotdev for NGOs ...
19:32 jordandotdev was working in Hong Kong last year trying to get into Bitcoin...
19:32 pete_dushenski links to any work ?
19:33 jordandotdev it's mostly back-office stuff for orgs
19:33 jordandotdev I have a bitcoin streaming site I'm messing around with
19:33 jordandotdev but haven't decided what direction to take it in
19:33 jordandotdev http://tipt.tv
19:33 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1zTuSHO )
19:33 jordandotdev use betacode 'tipt'
19:34 pete_dushenski ah, looks like a platform for camgirls or something
19:34 jordandotdev yeah I can't decide I wanted to learn more about RMTP etc.
19:34 jordandotdev I met some people that wanted to do eSports tournaments
19:34 pete_dushenski that background is giving me a fucking seizure though
19:34 jordandotdev but they haven't gotten back to me
19:34 jordandotdev haha sorry
19:35 pete_dushenski so why don't you follow up with these esports fellas ?
19:35 pete_dushenski gotta be persistent y'know
19:35 jordandotdev they haven't gotten back to me...for sure
19:35 jordandotdev been busy moving and getting into a new city
19:35 jordandotdev everyone has a project!
19:35 jordandotdev I was hacking away on this when I was unemployed
19:36 jordandotdev but yeah I will follow up with them ... the video platforms that make bitcoin a first-class citizen are pretty few and far-between
19:36 jordandotdev twitch has tipping obviously but
19:36 jordandotdev but they've got a stanglehold on that market
19:37 pete_dushenski !s twitch
19:37 assbot 35 results for 'twitch' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=twitch
19:38 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-08-2014#808727 ok.
19:38 assbot Logged on 25-08-2014 20:33:27; assbot: Amazon to buy live-stream gaming site Twitch for $970M - CNET
19:38 pete_dushenski jordandotdev: so hong kong...
19:38 jordandotdev yeah I worked with Bitfinex for a bit
19:38 jordandotdev and am still interviewing for a few more projects with some contacts I made there
19:38 pete_dushenski what was bitfinex like on the inside ?
19:38 jordandotdev and some other Bitcoin people I met in HK -- some have moved on etc.
19:39 jordandotdev well I was friends with Raphael at first...he's in London and he runs the tech side of thing...I was working with the CEO there...so they're a distributed team
19:39 * pete_dushenski didn't know that bitfinex was in hk, only that they're 'bitcoinica' reincarnate
19:39 jordandotdev and the CEO is great, and they're good guys, really focused on keeping people safe...but as far as 'tech initiatives' I was really in the wrong place
19:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38829 @ 0.00026289 = 10.2078 BTC [+] {3}
19:40 pete_dushenski relevant : http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-08-2014#791907
19:40 assbot Logged on 12-08-2014 00:57:07; mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes nah, lots of history there. bitfinex was a coupla twerps that took the leaked bitcoinica codebase and started a new bitcoinica, back in 2012ish ? early 2013 ? (that code was in the wild because after the nth breach, amir taaki of bitcoin consultancy fame "open sourced" it by releasing it without rights)
19:40 jordandotdev yeah HQ is in HK, and they're domiciled in HK, Taiwan, and British Antilles?
19:41 pete_dushenski jordandotdev: so if they're 'distributed' why did you move to hk ? why not stay stateside (where i presume you're from ?)
19:41 jordandotdev I was working for a VC firm as my dayjob
19:41 jordandotdev I was just just consulting on some internal projects
19:41 jordandotdev VC was based in HK and Mumbai ...
19:41 jordandotdev but that job didn't end up working out - and I wasn't getting enough other work with Bitfinex to support myself there
19:41 jordandotdev so it was either go work for a bank in HK or come back to the states
19:42 pete_dushenski what's wrong with a bank in hk ?
19:43 jordandotdev I just don't want to work at a bank at this point in my career
19:43 jordandotdev I'm still happy to do start-up stuff here in the states
19:43 jordandotdev start-up scene in HK is kind of nascent compared to SF
19:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5425 @ 0.00025405 = 1.3782 BTC [-] {2}
19:44 jordandotdev I do want to get into finance so I'm looking to do project management for quantitative developers etc. / go to school for a masters in finance if I can cut it (:
19:44 jordandotdev how about you pete_dushenski have we talked before?
19:45 pete_dushenski seems to me like a bank would be a perfectly reasonable place to learn finance, likely better than 'quantitative developers'
19:45 pete_dushenski but mebbe i'm off.
19:45 pete_dushenski jordandotdev: i don't believe we've talked before, no.
19:45 jordandotdev Oh ok ...
19:51 pete_dushenski https://blockchain.info/charts/avg-block-size?timespan=2year&showDataPoints=false&daysAverageString=1&show_header=true&scale=0&address= << call it a doubling-and-a-half of block size over the last two years.
19:51 assbot Bitcoin Average Block Size ... ( http://bit.ly/1zTw0v5 )
19:55 pete_dushenski jordandotdev: so what brings you by today ? anything in particular ?
19:55 jordandotdev pete_dushenski: naw just had this as one of my channels in autojoin irccloud - I've been interested in mircea's work and have read some of his stuff
19:56 pete_dushenski ah ok. you in the wot yet ?
19:56 jordandotdev wot?
19:56 pete_dushenski web of trust.
19:56 pete_dushenski uses pgp.
19:56 jordandotdev Ummm it's been some time since I last updated it
19:57 jordandotdev I don't think I did one for bitcoin-assets
19:57 jordandotdev I did one for bitcoin-otc a while ago
19:57 pete_dushenski double ummm, you don't 'update' pgp
19:57 jordandotdev sorry
19:57 jordandotdev yes I have my key I don't know if I'm in this web-of-trust
19:57 pete_dushenski !h
19:57 assbot http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots/assbot
19:57 pete_dushenski ^follow along.
19:58 jordandotdev roger that
20:00 pete_dushenski "Coinbase is seriously crossing the line now. I have had an account with Coinbase for well over 1.5 year. I bought some btc in March, and sent it to a DNM (won't say which one).. and did not purchase anything. I did not. The btc was a trivial amount, and said DNM has been having troubles with their uptime lately. Literally, no crime committed.
20:00 pete_dushenski Fast fwd to yesterday. I wasn't home yet from work, but my wife tells me local LE showed up and wanted to have a "chat". Asked if I or anone had ever ordered anything illicit in the mail. Said "nobody's in trouble, we're just following up on something that might be nothing"."
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20:00 pete_dushenski such lulz.
20:00 pete_dushenski !up jordandotdev
20:02 jordandotdev @ pete_dushenski yeah I'm in the WOT http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/jordandotdev/
20:02 assbot jordandotdev WoT Overview - Btc Alpha ... ( http://bit.ly/1zTwwJw )
20:02 pete_dushenski http://cryptome.org/2015/05/force-026-022.pdf << more carl mark force funz for BingoBoingo
20:03 pete_dushenski jordandotdev: ah well there ya go.
20:03 pete_dushenski who's xiando to you ?
20:03 pete_dushenski a rating of '10' ? for realz ??
20:09 pete_dushenski well, it's been a gas but i'm off for the eve. cheerio !
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20:49 mircea_popescu motherfucker. so, this box : if hard drive is attached, will not boot off usb stick. just ignore it, pretend it doesn't exist. is hd is detached, will boot off stick just fine, but will NOT detect the hard drive no matter what happens.
20:49 mircea_popescu computing doesn't need someliers, computing needs people with blowtorches.
20:49 decimation shitty bios is shitty
20:50 mircea_popescu incidentally, bios chips should be detachable .
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21:11 decimation detachable inspect-able bios is ascii's dream
21:15 hanbot !up keithcox
21:21 mod6 !up ascii_lander
21:22 mod6 i must be stale.
21:26 decimation poor ascii must be dialing in from mars
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21:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7350 @ 0.00025608 = 1.8822 BTC [+]
21:59 mircea_popescu !up asciilifeform
21:59 mircea_popescu !down asciilifeform
21:59 mircea_popescu o.O
21:59 mircea_popescu !up asciilifeform
22:00 mod6 !down asciilifeform
22:01 mod6 !up asciilifeform
22:01 mod6 yeah, was just stale.
22:02 mircea_popescu http://www.weidai.com/bmoney.txt << ahh, the naive writs of our forefathers.
22:02 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1AO3SEk )
22:06 mircea_popescu lol hanbot don't be pedantic!
22:10 mod6 ahh, the naive writs of our forefathers. << ah yeah! isn't that from like '98 cypherpunks?
22:11 mircea_popescu mhm
22:11 mod6 apparently Satoshi had some correspondence with Wei Dai
22:12 mircea_popescu there's a lot of annoying "magic numbers will save us" voodoo in there, like "Each server is required to deposit a certain amount of money in a special account to be used as potential fines or rewards for proof of misconduct."
22:12 mircea_popescu but nevertheless... the plane looks as much as a plane as it could, among the bamboo sticks and clay pottery.
22:12 mod6 yeah, saw that.
22:22 mod6 asciilifeform: here's today's update from the v0.5.3.1+Orphanage+Thermonuke test: http://dpaste.com/3Q81JA6.txt
22:22 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1AO5Tk0 )
22:23 mod6 !up ascii_modem
22:24 ascii_modem all of -my- boxen have socketed bios or else soic8 where can use crocodile
22:25 ascii_modem because wtf
22:33 mod6 !up asciilifeform
22:33 ascii_modem wat
22:34 mircea_popescu it had a socketed bios.
22:34 ascii_modem arsebot shat itself?
22:34 mircea_popescu possibly at some point
22:35 mod6 naw, it died a few days ago... and i remained voiced, but stale from assbots' view
22:36 ascii_modem so i was in a train station, and saw rare sight:
22:37 ascii_modem policemen dragging away some fella in a clean suit and white face
22:37 mod6 "unpaid parking tickets"
22:38 ascii_modem turns out he was caught stealing gurl's ticket - his s.o.
22:42 ascii_modem (is the correct engl. legalism for this kind of thing still 'a domestic' if the drama is in a public place?)
22:44 mod6 not sure. you'd think the choad would have just bought a ticket of his own. or if caught without a ticket, kept his mouth shut and paid a fine.
22:45 mod6 here it's like $200 fine if caught without a ticket.
22:45 ascii_modem it looked like he was trying to keep her from leaving
22:45 mod6 oh
22:46 mod6 yeah, then that something different entierly i'd guess as far as statutes, etc.
22:47 mod6 train drama cracks me up. i see it from time to time.
22:48 mod6 usually it's just hobo's drunk asf going on at high volume about aliens or jesus. but every now and then, a good fight breaks out.
22:49 ascii_modem re: bios: i'm rather surprised that mircea_popescu doesn't demand 'coreboot' (aka linuxbios) on his boxes
22:51 ascii_modem not so hard to build & burn - on reasonable iron (fuck intel)
22:54 mod6 !up ascii_modem
23:04 mod6 !up asciilifeform
23:08 decimation asciilifeform: why would they arrest over subway ticket? pay fine and move on? Must be complicated with the 'domestic'
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23:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 554 @ 0.00233 = 1.2908 BTC [+]
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23:38 decimation http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-05-2015#1120886 < the positive void coefficient design was a bad move, and another was the fact that the containment was essentially a wooden shed
23:38 assbot Logged on 05-05-2015 14:54:53; mircea_popescu: and this is how chernobyl happened.
23:52 decimation http://www.faa.gov/news/press_releases/news_story.cfm?newsId=18757 < baltimore burns, and 40 miles away usg implements plans to instruct hobbyist r/c aircraft pilots
23:52 assbot Press Release – FAA’s B4UFLY App Will Help UAS Pilots Operate Safely and Legally ... ( http://bit.ly/1zTID9m )
23:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 101239 @ 0.00025699 = 26.0174 BTC [+] {2}
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