00:08 |
nubbins` |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPoqNeR3_UA |
00:08 |
assbot |
Star Trek TNG Ambient Engine Noise (Idling for 24 hrs) - YouTube |
00:08 |
nubbins` |
only 16h left |
00:12 |
nubbins` |
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/white-house-orders-review-of-police-militarization-programs-1.2745153 |
00:12 |
assbot |
White House orders review of police 'militarization' programs - World - CBC News |
00:13 |
nubbins` |
A REVIEW WILL SOLVE THIS PROBLEM |
00:13 |
nubbins` |
"white house orders review of civilian 'militarization' programs" |
00:16 |
mircea_popescu |
wait wut ? |
00:16 |
mircea_popescu |
"only da police may militarize BITCH" |
00:21 |
mircea_popescu |
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_pkUFRs9vaXA/TDrOfTIDkqI/AAAAAAAAyjI/lZ1kUx6B9kk/s1600/4756763833_ffb7ccc7ba_b.jpg "does this make me look fat ?" |
00:21 |
nubbins` |
ah, the future |
00:22 |
* |
asciilifeform saw that in a trilema article, first thought 'plucked peacock' |
00:35 |
mircea_popescu |
http://i.imgur.com/u4v6XjB.gif |
00:39 |
mircea_popescu |
!up dxrt |
| |
~ 1 hours 2 minutes ~ |
01:42 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22700 @ 0.00063493 = 14.4129 BTC [-] |
| |
~ 25 minutes ~ |
02:07 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4437 @ 0.00063544 = 2.8194 BTC [+] |
02:12 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19335 @ 0.00063408 = 12.2599 BTC [-] {3} |
02:21 |
mircea_popescu |
!up knotwork |
| |
~ 17 minutes ~ |
02:38 |
X-Rob |
mircea_popescu: aaand we're back |
02:38 |
X-Rob |
that was unpleasant |
02:39 |
X-Rob |
from 12:02:26 PM to 4:39pm |
02:39 |
X-Rob |
5 hours. |
02:45 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
X-Rob - what platform do you use for the pool? |
02:46 |
X-Rob |
RagnarDanneskjol: That's 6 avalon3 blades |
02:47 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
sorry, I thought you ran the pool as well - I meant pool software |
02:53 |
BingoBoingo |
X-Rob: mircea_popescu: Power issues. Will be off for possibly a couple more hours. Will pro-rata a discount at current estimated << I thought I had power issues today |
02:54 |
mircea_popescu |
%p |
02:56 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo so how long was it unmining today ? |
02:58 |
BingoBoingo |
I have no idea yet. Just coming back online myself. |
02:59 |
mircea_popescu |
aite lemme know. |
02:59 |
BingoBoingo |
And coinminer's page seems down |
03:02 |
BingoBoingo |
~6 hours and 50 minutes ago was the last mined block for our pool |
03:06 |
mircea_popescu |
aite ima go dance in the rain. later. |
03:09 |
X-Rob |
OMFG this pool is FUCKING TERRIBLE |
03:11 |
BingoBoingo |
Well, you still plan on throwing us a less terrible p2pool? When the digging is done? |
03:13 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
I'm working on sourcing you guys a few alternate pool options |
03:13 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
BingoBoingo - are you sure p2pool is the preferred platform? |
03:14 |
BingoBoingo |
RagnarDanneskjol: The transparency it affords is exceedingly desirable. |
03:14 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
got it |
03:16 |
X-Rob |
BingoBoingo: I'm going to set one up shortly. |
03:16 |
X-Rob |
shortly as in 'in a few hours' |
03:25 |
BingoBoingo |
K |
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~ 23 minutes ~ |
03:49 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8650 @ 0.00063544 = 5.4966 BTC [+] |
| |
~ 24 minutes ~ |
04:13 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33350 @ 0.00063296 = 21.1092 BTC [-] {4} |
| |
~ 31 minutes ~ |
04:44 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
https://github.com/tensorjack/coinbridge |
04:44 |
assbot |
tensorjack/coinbridge GitHub |
| |
~ 45 minutes ~ |
05:29 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20800 @ 0.0006315 = 13.1352 BTC [-] {2} |
05:30 |
punkman |
god morgen |
05:31 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
howdy |
05:34 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
I think I got China to seriously consider the circular multilat barter platform you recommended. many thanx for that |
05:47 |
punkman |
RagnarDanneskjol: cool, nobody needs another ripple clone |
05:47 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
fuken A |
05:48 |
punkman |
gonna attempt to clean up some chinese php now, god help me |
05:49 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
oh my |
| |
~ 36 minutes ~ |
06:25 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28355 @ 0.00063546 = 18.0185 BTC [+] {2} |
| |
~ 27 minutes ~ |
06:53 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17836 @ 0.00063233 = 11.2782 BTC [-] {2} |
06:54 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.2885 = 0.577 BTC [+] {2} |
06:59 |
jurov |
http://motherboard.vice.com/read/how-to-steal-an-encryption-key-by-simply-touching-a-laptop |
06:59 |
assbot |
How to Steal an Encryption Key by Simply Touching a Laptop | Motherboard |
07:00 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6964 @ 0.00063113 = 4.3952 BTC [-] |
| |
~ 38 minutes ~ |
07:39 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31400 @ 0.00063251 = 19.8608 BTC [+] {2} |
| |
~ 17 minutes ~ |
07:56 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20150 @ 0.00063094 = 12.7134 BTC [-] {2} |
07:58 |
Vexual |
is that an oscilloscope in your pocket? |
08:04 |
Vexual |
./ink |
| |
~ 34 minutes ~ |
08:39 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
does anyone know if github reflects the latest atc ver? https://github.com/therealaltcoin/altcoin |
08:39 |
assbot |
therealaltcoin/altcoin GitHub |
08:39 |
Vexual |
yep, 1.0 |
08:40 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
thank |
08:45 |
Vexual |
if memory serves it's cloned from 8.3 or some such |
08:45 |
Vexual |
thank pankak |
08:48 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
righty oh - I'm workin on a pool/explorer/web wallet for it today. poor coin has been woefully neglected |
08:48 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18200 @ 0.00063585 = 11.5725 BTC [+] |
08:48 |
Vexual |
cool shit |
08:57 |
Vexual |
what pool server software do you intend to use |
08:58 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
going to try multiple options - prolly mpos cuz p2pool sux hairy balls |
| |
↖ |
08:58 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
the worst. I hate it |
09:00 |
Vexual |
nod |
09:02 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 119 @ 0.00615 = 0.7319 BTC [-] |
09:03 |
Vexual |
well if you're not busy tommorrow, perhaps you could make another exchange too |
09:05 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
that is a much taller order & above my paygrade... I know lotsa smart kids that can do it tho |
| |
~ 42 minutes ~ |
09:48 |
Vexual |
!up RagnarsBitch |
09:54 |
Vexual |
!s asciilifeform + drunk |
09:54 |
assbot |
12 results for 'asciilifeform + drunk' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=asciilifeform+%2B+drunk |
09:57 |
Vexual |
!s shenzen |
09:57 |
assbot |
4 results for 'shenzen' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=shenzen |
10:04 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21723 @ 0.00063057 = 13.6979 BTC [-] {2} |
10:18 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19600 @ 0.00063037 = 12.3553 BTC [-] |
| |
~ 44 minutes ~ |
11:03 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31100 @ 0.00063469 = 19.7389 BTC [+] {3} |
| |
~ 16 minutes ~ |
11:19 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.00063594 = 4.706 BTC [+] {2} |
| |
~ 40 minutes ~ |
12:00 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.58037915 BTC to 14`987 shares, 10545 satoshi per share |
12:01 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 4.84144948 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 421 satoshi per share |
| |
~ 41 minutes ~ |
12:42 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 964 @ 0.00101651 = 0.9799 BTC [-] {27} |
12:50 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22400 @ 0.00062993 = 14.1104 BTC [-] {2} |
13:02 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 570 @ 0.00099998 = 0.57 BTC [-] |
13:14 |
penguirker |
New blog post: http://explo.yt/post/2014/08/23/First-impressions-from-ownCloud |
13:20 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26000 @ 0.00063684 = 16.5578 BTC [+] {2} |
13:29 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2000 @ 0.00099999 = 2 BTC [+] {2} |
13:30 |
jurov |
anyone tried owncloud? |
13:36 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00062959 = 6.4848 BTC [-] {2} |
13:42 |
ThickAsThieves |
How come a lot of scammers are british? |
13:43 |
kakobrekla |
they are? |
13:44 |
ThickAsThieves |
in my own life's observation |
13:44 |
ThickAsThieves |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=286634.msg8466137#msg8466137 |
13:44 |
assbot |
[BTC-TC] CIPHERMINE.B1 - a virtual corporate bond with a 22% fixed-fiat APR |
13:51 |
mthreat |
ThickAsThieves: it's because of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWgWUnZgEyU |
13:51 |
assbot |
Jaguar - British Villains 'Rendezvous' - YouTube |
13:52 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 900 @ 0.00099994 = 0.8999 BTC [+] |
14:04 |
ThickAsThieves |
see, i didnt make this up! |
14:04 |
fluffypony |
jurov yes |
14:04 |
fluffypony |
I struggled to get it working |
14:04 |
fluffypony |
and in the end I wasn't very impressed with it |
14:05 |
xmj |
what does owncloud do? |
14:05 |
fluffypony |
xmj: it's a cloud backend |
14:05 |
fluffypony |
so you can run your own Dropbox |
14:05 |
jurov |
xmj, i wrote about it above |
14:05 |
xmj |
ah |
14:11 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.289 = 0.578 BTC [+] |
14:15 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6280 @ 0.00083292 = 5.2307 BTC [-] {27} |
14:20 |
X-Rob |
BingoBoingo: I gave up on that pool. It was getting worse. I'm solo-mining to that address for the moment. I started writing a playbook so I can deploy pools easily, and I'll hopefully finish it after work today. |
14:22 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.289 = 2.312 BTC [+] |
14:22 |
kakobrekla |
the overhead on that thing... |
14:28 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00063595 = 7.6314 BTC [+] |
14:36 |
mod6 |
;;ticker |
14:36 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 509.82, Best ask: 511.28, Bid-ask spread: 1.46000, Last trade: 511.29, 24 hour volume: 6908.55900746, 24 hour low: 487.0, 24 hour high: 512.69, 24 hour vwap: 499.523223544 |
14:37 |
mod6 |
%p |
14:37 |
atcbot |
[CoinMiner Hashrate]: 0.11 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 642.91 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 1.78 TH/s |
| |
~ 37 minutes ~ |
15:14 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33400 @ 0.00063594 = 21.2404 BTC [-] |
15:17 |
BingoBoingo |
X-Rob: Well, I see we've gotten a few blocks since the switch, so... Improvement |
15:18 |
X-Rob |
BingoBoingo: yeah. Seems to be mining away happily now. Just that I have no proof-of-mining, apart from random blocks appearing, and I don't like that. So yeah, I'll get onto making a pool later. But it's work-o'clock now. |
15:19 |
BingoBoingo |
X-Rob: Doesn't sound like the worst thing. |
15:25 |
BingoBoingo |
!up Duffer1 |
15:25 |
BingoBoingo |
%d |
15:25 |
atcbot |
[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 234620.37 in 1760 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -87.51 |
15:25 |
BingoBoingo |
%t |
15:25 |
atcbot |
[X-BT] Bid: 170 Ask: 221 Last Price: 170 24h-Vol: 0k High: 170 Low: 170 VWAP: 169 |
15:32 |
BingoBoingo |
;;ticker |
15:32 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 512.14, Best ask: 513.77, Bid-ask spread: 1.63000, Last trade: 513.77, 24 hour volume: 7398.67010189, 24 hour low: 487.0, 24 hour high: 515.95, 24 hour vwap: 500.399075407 |
15:32 |
BingoBoingo |
^ OMG BTC price is ATC block reward |
15:42 |
mod6 |
;;later tell mike_c need help with WoL |
15:42 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
15:44 |
BingoBoingo |
Interesting day in -dev it looks like http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-dev/logs/2014/08/24#l1408839491 |
15:44 |
assbot |
BitcoinStats |
15:44 |
BingoBoingo |
mod6: Any idea if atcbot can get a 30 day VWAP command? |
15:48 |
mod6 |
i'd be preferable to me if x-bt would provide that in the JSON |
15:48 |
mod6 |
i don't want to have to calculate anything if possible. |
15:49 |
BingoBoingo |
Ah |
15:49 |
BingoBoingo |
Apocalyptic: Can we get a 30 day VWAP? |
15:49 |
kakobrekla |
!up DiabloD3 |
15:49 |
kakobrekla |
DiabloD3 noctua sucks compared to bequiet. |
15:50 |
kakobrekla |
way too much mechanical noise. |
| |
~ 17 minutes ~ |
16:07 |
decimation |
re: handle's rant on the black rioting: http://handleshaus.wordpress.com/2014/08/17/procrustean-rashomon/#comment-4591 << Vladimir has a great comment: "On the other hand, libertarians and conservatives often have some vague intuitive understanding of the real issue, i.e. that the change in policing is just another manifestation of the sad fact that Americans and other Anglos are no longer a free people capable of governing |
16:07 |
assbot |
Procrustean Rashomon | Handle's Haus |
16:07 |
decimation |
themselves. However, as in everything else, instead of coming to the ineluctable reactionary conclusions, they try to talk about it in ways that they hope it will get them status points and sympathy from progressives." |
| |
~ 17 minutes ~ |
16:25 |
decimation |
!up The20YearIRCloud |
16:36 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1462 @ 0.0009974 = 1.4582 BTC [-] {8} |
16:38 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.28899999 = 2.312 BTC [-] |
16:45 |
pete_dushenski |
https://twitter.com/nntaleb/status/503641069314392065 |
16:45 |
assbot |
If you ask someone where he comes from & he answers "Europe",odds are he is Romanian or Bulgarian.A German wd answer "Germany".Same Fr/I/Sp |
16:50 |
pete_dushenski |
https://twitter.com/nntaleb/status/503295669919285248 |
16:50 |
assbot |
Someone bemoaned that there were so few women in economics. But there are also very few men in economics. |
16:50 |
pete_dushenski |
^or anywhere else for that matter |
16:53 |
pete_dushenski |
The20YearIRCloud: Eh, gdp between 2nd world and 3rd world is huge, much easier to pay some PMCs and take over a african despot than say kazachstan << reminds me of when elbonia went from a 2nd world country from a 3rd. the only difference being that now they had enough food and were starting to get picky about it. |
16:57 |
pete_dushenski |
http://imgur.com/uOUKRS4 << "airline food, again?" |
16:57 |
assbot |
imgur: the simple image sharer |
16:58 |
decimation |
anti-fragile by taleb has some interesting points. I wonder if he would consider bitcoin "fragile". In one sense, it is fragile because its current implementation relies on fragile computers and somewhat poorly wrought software. In another sense, it is strongly anti-fragile because it benefits from any event that casts doubt on the ability of nation-states to manage their own scrip. |
16:58 |
pete_dushenski |
youtubetard: yea...Quebec will hopefully demonstrate a peaceful and constructive seccesion << this, i'd like to see |
16:58 |
decimation |
independent quebec would produce hydropower and baked goods, not much else... |
16:59 |
pete_dushenski |
decimation: to the extent that bitcoin is short usd, taleb would love it to the extent that he could be bothered to understand it |
16:59 |
pete_dushenski |
taleb's too distracted by the shenanigans in his homeland |
17:00 |
pete_dushenski |
independent quebec could produce all the same things they currently do: flour, maple syrup, construction management |
17:01 |
decimation |
yeah I get his point that old stuff is better, but sometimes a new technology does come along. While he derides electronics, it is clear that man will be making integrated circuits until the end of time (unless a better technology supersedes it) |
17:02 |
decimation |
in the case of bitcoin, I think he confuses the shoddy nature of modern computers with bitcoin as a technology, which can and will exist independently from today's crap-o-soft |
17:02 |
pete_dushenski |
xmj: What would make for a better home base in 2015 or 2016: Luxembourg, Monaco or Jersey/Guernsey? << try opatija, croatia. twas good enough for franz joseph i |
17:02 |
decimation |
the book comes off as a combination of "listen to the wisdom of your elders" and "get off my lawn" |
17:03 |
pete_dushenski |
decimation: it's almost exactly that, combined with "don't make naive, model-based predictions and bet all your chips on models mapping reality" |
17:05 |
xmj |
pete_dushenski: you missed the part where i was asking for germanic/anglosaxon hemisphere |
17:06 |
xmj |
pete_dushenski: i'm currently considering the area of Eindhoven NL |
17:06 |
pete_dushenski |
xmj that's a hemisphere nao? |
17:06 |
xmj |
pete_dushenski: always been9~ |
17:06 |
pete_dushenski |
opatija is due south of berlin |
17:06 |
xmj |
commonwealth + central europe. House Windsor is germanic origin, eh |
17:06 |
pete_dushenski |
hemisphere being drawn longitudinally… |
17:07 |
xmj |
eh whatever |
17:07 |
pete_dushenski |
ok, so berlin then |
17:07 |
xmj |
??? |
17:07 |
decimation |
umm, croatia is a few hour drive to germany right? |
17:07 |
xmj |
berlin is not in the space of permissible answers as defined in the question. |
17:08 |
Apocalyptic |
<BingoBoingo> [21:49:51] Apocalyptic: Can we get a 30 day VWAP? // possibly |
17:08 |
xmj |
decimation: I'm currently in Ljubljana, it's not that much of a stretch to go there the next couple of days |
17:09 |
jurov |
have you met kako? |
17:10 |
BingoBoingo |
Apocalyptic: Such a thing would probably one of the most usefull things the environment around ATC could have, since... This thing trades slow |
17:10 |
Apocalyptic |
indeed |
17:10 |
xmj |
who is that and why would i want to? |
17:13 |
jurov |
kako is kakobrekla |
17:14 |
jurov |
and he's good fellow to meet in person |
17:14 |
jurov |
lives somewhere there |
17:17 |
jurov |
;;gettrust xmj kakobrekla |
17:17 |
gribble |
Currently authenticated from hostmask kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla. Trust relationship from user xmj to user kakobrekla: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 3 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=xmj&dest=kakobrekla | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=kakobrekla | Rated since: Fri May 13 18:50:53 2011 |
17:17 |
BingoBoingo |
bacon and eggs, even sausages most of the time would be appropriate gifts to bear xmj |
17:18 |
xmj |
somewhere where? |
17:18 |
jurov |
in slovenia |
17:18 |
xmj |
near opatija? |
17:18 |
xmj |
BingoBoingo: and why would i want to bring a stranger gifts? |
17:18 |
xmj |
especially those items i'd just eat myself. |
17:18 |
* |
xmj laughs |
17:19 |
BingoBoingo |
http://bitcoin-assets.com << See the section titled how to stay |
17:19 |
assbot |
#bitcoin-assets | You cannot stop the clouds by the building of a ship. |
17:19 |
jurov |
idk, you met strangers in estonia or such too? |
17:20 |
xmj |
sure. |
17:20 |
jurov |
just a thought |
17:20 |
xmj |
i didn't bring them unwarranted gifts |
17:20 |
xmj |
kakobrekla: hi |
17:20 |
BingoBoingo |
;;topic |
17:20 |
gribble |
http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com || http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com |
17:20 |
xmj |
kakobrekla: jurov things it's necessary we meet. i'm in ljubljana for an indefinite amount of time, how about beer if you're in town? |
17:21 |
xmj |
kakobrekla: thinks* |
17:21 |
BingoBoingo |
It isn't unwarranted. It's on the first link in the topic |
17:22 |
xmj |
BingoBoingo: I don't get it? |
17:22 |
BingoBoingo |
xmj: Well someone founded the channel and created text for the page... |
17:22 |
jurov |
i don't think kako meant literal bacon and sausages |
17:23 |
jurov |
but then, it implies he's bi? |
17:23 |
* |
jurov ponders |
17:23 |
xmj |
jurov: when at home I eat eggs and bacon all day every day |
17:25 |
jurov |
enjoy. me too |
17:25 |
jurov |
all kinds of sausages. |
17:25 |
xmj |
ahahah |
17:29 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 222 @ 0.00400002 = 0.888 BTC [-] {4} |
17:29 |
jurov |
in-person connections are antifragile |
17:30 |
kakobrekla |
;;google monthy python bacon eggs spam |
17:30 |
gribble |
Monty Python - Spam - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE>; Spam (Monty Python) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam_(Monty_Python)>; The Monty Python Spam Skit! - Detritus.org: <http://www.detritus.org/spam/skit.html> |
17:30 |
kakobrekla |
fyi |
17:31 |
kakobrekla |
hi xmj |
17:31 |
kakobrekla |
any approximate timeframe for how long you staying? |
17:32 |
pete_dushenski |
mircea_popescu: punkman: pete_dushenski: sounds like a death wish << i'd definitely mow him down. fucking biking hipsters. << real hipsters ride horses. |
17:32 |
kakobrekla |
my drivers license expired recently, havent gone through the bureaucracy of extending it yet so ima bit grounded - do you have a car here or how do you get around |
17:33 |
jurov |
ah they said nothing about sausages |
17:33 |
xmj |
kakobrekla: undefined |
17:33 |
xmj |
kakobrekla: no car, i'll stay until i get bored |
17:34 |
xmj |
kakobrekla: where are you based? |
17:34 |
asciilifeform |
he confuses the shoddy nature of modern computers with bitcoin as a technology, which can and will exist independently from today's crap-o-soft << this. |
17:35 |
penguirker |
New blog post: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/08/24/pretense-of-bitcoin-regulation-stalls-again-this-week/ |
17:39 |
asciilifeform |
real hipsters ride horses << nah. they ride... grinding wheels. e.g., http://www.robotee.com/image/NEWS/31020_SoloWheel_timthumb.jpg |
17:40 |
* |
asciilifeform had a dream many years ago that his grandfather took an ancient grinding wheel from workshop, turned it upside-down, and taught him to ride it. and now people actually do something quite like this. |
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17:41 |
assbot |
Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3ADCF93.txt ) |
17:41 |
BingoBoingo |
!b 2 |
17:43 |
jurov |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3tU_SYSfOU roomba cat came to mind |
17:43 |
assbot |
Shark Cat on Roomba Chasing Duck - Original HD TWT Version - YouTube |
17:47 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69700 @ 0.00063384 = 44.1786 BTC [-] {5} |
17:48 |
pete_dushenski |
asciilifeform: lol i saw one of those around town recently. definitely not hipster material |
17:48 |
pete_dushenski |
hipster at least desire the company of others, unlike anyone who uses grinding wheels |
17:56 |
asciilifeform |
doesn't have to be alone - what's to stop somebody from riding grinding wheels in regiment ? |
18:00 |
jurov |
grinding wheel gang |
18:01 |
pete_dushenski |
asciilifeform: well, cost. |
18:01 |
pete_dushenski |
they're $2k a piece |
18:01 |
pete_dushenski |
a bicycle is $100 |
18:02 |
pete_dushenski |
hipsters tend to be pretty broke, spending all disposable income on max iphone plans |
18:02 |
pete_dushenski |
not that horses are cheap, but at least the ride in teams properly |
18:02 |
pete_dushenski |
s/the/they |
18:03 |
pete_dushenski |
http://www.amazon.com/Inventist-SW1-Solowheel-by/dp/B007Q3FZYK |
18:03 |
assbot |
Amazon.com : Solowheel by Inventist : Childrens Ride Ons : Sports & Outdoors |
18:08 |
assbot |
ninjashogun +v failed; L1: 0, L2: -3 |
18:09 |
kakobrekla |
!up ninjashogun |
18:10 |
kakobrekla |
usg nsa wifi? |
18:12 |
kakobrekla |
;;later tell mircea_popescu you can sort by weight now. |
18:12 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
18:20 |
ninjashogun |
thanks kakobrekla. |
18:28 |
ninjashogun |
laters* |
18:28 |
pete_dushenski |
*BingoBoingo likes ben_vulpes lack of serious competition << likewise! |
18:32 |
xmj |
huh. |
18:34 |
pete_dushenski |
BingoBoingo: I mean if the situation for the blacks improved... would there be a Ferguson? << read the lulziest headline on a national newspaper yesterday "blacks still aren't equal to whites. some think obama should do more." |
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19:09 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44048 @ 0.00063299 = 27.8819 BTC [-] |
19:13 |
danielpbarron |
;;later tell mircea_popescu http://danielpbarron.com/DerpReport/ << updated |
19:13 |
assbot |
Derp Report |
19:13 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
19:14 |
abathingape |
http://lists.tlug.jp/ML/1408/msg00061.html |
19:14 |
assbot |
TLUG Mailing List |
19:14 |
abathingape |
"...due to work being much more busy than expected (especially in the last 3 years)." |
19:20 |
pete_dushenski |
mircea_popescu: jewland too. it's just not in the cards for that continent, having civilised countries there. << myeah. move jews and boers to south america already. |
19:23 |
pete_dushenski |
https://twitter.com/sierraclub/status/503618001523204096 << sucks to be californian |
19:23 |
assbot |
Stunning photo of CA's drought from /NASA & /KTVU - this is a pic of Folsom Lake: http://t.co/VU5iRS11bo |
19:25 |
kakobrekla |
well why did they leave the gates open! |
19:26 |
BingoBoingo |
danielpbarron: re:http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=20197180&postcount=28 << I've actually bought a drink with Euros at an American bar |
19:27 |
danielpbarron |
lol, where? |
19:27 |
pete_dushenski |
danielpbarron on the dams! |
19:28 |
BingoBoingo |
danielpbarron: Just some mexican bar |
19:28 |
pete_dushenski |
http://online.wsj.com/articles/dining-from-trash-to-table-in-brooklyn-1408756306 << derelicte my balls |
19:28 |
assbot |
Dining From Trash to Table in Brooklyn - WSJ |
19:28 |
BingoBoingo |
*themed |
19:31 |
BingoBoingo |
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/24/justin-cosma-ferguson-police_n_5705409.html?utm_hp_ref=tw |
19:31 |
assbot |
Ferguson Police Officer Justin Cosma Hog-Tied And Injured A Young Child, Lawsuit Alleges |
19:32 |
mircea_popescu |
hi all, and welcome to mp's string of sunday pronnouncements! |
19:32 |
mircea_popescu |
pronouncement #1 : and he said unto them lo! that bitbet now allows searching by weight of bets! |
19:33 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00062894 = 6.7926 BTC [-] |
19:34 |
mircea_popescu |
pronouncement #b : and then he spake thus : ye knoweth the evil people of the world know no rest, for the very fire of hell scorches their gullets on the inside so they may never sit quietly in a room. and therefore it will come to pass that they will put pressure on freenode, starting for instance last thursday. |
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19:35 |
mircea_popescu |
knoweth ye, that while it is unlikely for freenode to buckle, more than anything because its brains are so scattered it's unlikely to manage to gather enough management to do anything, nevertheless this isn't a reason to not build parachute |
19:36 |
mircea_popescu |
and therefore! whosoever knoweth well the workings of the irc demon and how to set it up let me know, for we shall have a plan b, and our plan b shall take over the earth! |
19:36 |
assbot |
Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0YBA60N.txt ) |
19:36 |
BingoBoingo |
!b 3 |
19:36 |
mircea_popescu |
so end the glorious sunday pronouncements, join us next sunday for nude frolicking in the grass and fire spitting. |
19:39 |
ThickAsThieves |
praised be |
19:39 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.00062894 = 2.4843 BTC [-] |
19:39 |
mircea_popescu |
someone should start a church of confusing form with function. |
19:39 |
mircea_popescu |
that's an easy sell if there ever was one. |
19:39 |
hanbot |
nice weight sortage |
19:39 |
ThickAsThieves |
USA |
19:40 |
mircea_popescu |
i guess the catholics also did pretty well on the score. |
19:45 |
BingoBoingo |
;;ticker |
19:45 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 506.85, Best ask: 507.54, Bid-ask spread: 0.69000, Last trade: 507.86, 24 hour volume: 5778.20961167, 24 hour low: 495.02, 24 hour high: 515.95, 24 hour vwap: 504.13191356 |
19:46 |
BingoBoingo |
;;parachute |
19:46 |
gribble |
Error: "parachute" is not a valid command. |
19:46 |
BingoBoingo |
!parachute |
19:46 |
BingoBoingo |
%parachute |
19:50 |
asciilifeform |
aha parachute! |
19:50 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: care to air out the dirt? why let the bastards suffer quietly ? |
19:53 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform you know there's this pesky rule of nature that the more one speaks the less one knows. |
19:53 |
mircea_popescu |
this thing seems to hold true in the most perverse and unexpected of applications. |
19:53 |
asciilifeform |
aha sure |
19:53 |
asciilifeform |
but before i can offer a potential parachute - need to know threat model. |
19:53 |
asciilifeform |
gpg-gram if you like. |
19:54 |
mircea_popescu |
that's immaterial. the threat defense, however, will be an array of geographically distributed servers which someone will have to shepherd the ircd on. |
19:54 |
mircea_popescu |
you know, just like freenode, except with a helluva lot more moneyz. |
19:55 |
mircea_popescu |
aand problem solved. |
19:55 |
mircea_popescu |
ty for participating everyone :) |
19:56 |
* |
asciilifeform would still like to know who, approximately, is likely to bring approximately what kind of siege weapon to his gates before dusting off the box kept for this purpose. |
19:56 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform it's all social engineering. the nsa does not have any technical capbility worth the mention. |
19:57 |
* |
asciilifeform pictured 'complaint' wankers, rather than nsa |
19:57 |
mircea_popescu |
on one hand because it is actually very limited on th edirect, on the other hand because it is very affraid to use even the little it has lest a hb rehash. |
20:01 |
asciilifeform |
lamers. |
20:02 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform exactly. the fiat economy is predicated on the theory that value may be constructed out of a trillion promises that each on and of itself is worthless |
20:03 |
mircea_popescu |
and the fiat state is predicated on the theory that productive work may be extracted out of assemblages of a trillion shitheads that by and of themselves are wholly incapable. |
20:03 |
mircea_popescu |
even at the risk of driving down legitimate promises and capable people, the theory goes, this is still a worthwhile endeavour. |
20:03 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ae/Ilia_Efimovich_Repin_(1844-1930)_-_Volga_Boatmen_(1870-1873).jpg |
20:04 |
mircea_popescu |
o look at that! buskers! |
20:04 |
asciilifeform |
where i live, a 'busker' is a fellow playing, e.g., accordion on a steet, begging for pennies |
20:04 |
mircea_popescu |
same dress n'est pass ? same look ? |
20:04 |
mircea_popescu |
same cool. |
20:04 |
asciilifeform |
approximately. |
20:05 |
asciilifeform |
the folks pictured are бурлаки. (yes, we had a separate name for this occupation.) |
20:05 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7152 @ 0.00063257 = 4.5241 BTC [+] |
20:06 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: at any rate, what kind of machine is necessary, for what kind of load? just #b-a ? |
20:07 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform it's not a matter of the machines per se tho. |
20:07 |
mircea_popescu |
i mean not that more will hurt, when-and-if. |
20:07 |
cazalla |
mircea_popescu, i have no report for today, been in bed best part of a week |
20:07 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla new gf ? |
20:08 |
cazalla |
hardly, depressed more like it |
20:08 |
asciilifeform |
it's not a matter of the machines per se << of what, then ? |
20:09 |
mircea_popescu |
the guy to run the software package. |
20:09 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla care to share with the group ? |
20:13 |
cazalla |
mircea_popescu, this pretty much http://pastebin.com/9sftKGAJ doctors say tldr |
20:13 |
assbot |
Head Area Tingling - on top of head, face, back of head, neck, shoulders, var - Pastebin.com |
20:14 |
mircea_popescu |
pinched nerve. |
20:14 |
mircea_popescu |
started with the tri, got the whole stack by now. |
20:15 |
cazalla |
i've had mri of neck, brain, cardiac ct, halter monitor, xrays, blood work, etc etc |
20:15 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 905 @ 0.00063595 = 0.5755 BTC [+] |
20:16 |
mircea_popescu |
dja work out ? |
20:16 |
cazalla |
i use to |
20:17 |
cazalla |
so that's why i sometimes stay in bed for a week or 2 and just sleep the depression off |
20:17 |
mircea_popescu |
go work out. none of that high performance gym shit tho, this isn't to perform, this is to relax. ride a horse. swim. something sane. |
20:18 |
mircea_popescu |
fuck, for that matter, quite legitimate. |
20:18 |
* |
asciilifeform while reading about modern irc daemonology, learned that founder of freenode died of having-problems in '06. |
20:19 |
cazalla |
mircea_popescu, spring is due here so i'm going to do laps once it warms up a little |
20:19 |
asciilifeform |
(and he was publicly smeared in various ways, e.g. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/01/29/buy_a_piece_of_net) |
20:19 |
assbot |
404: Page not found | The Register |
20:19 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform pretty much yes. |
20:20 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla you're not supposed to sit, but that's a splendid idea : pole dancing. |
20:21 |
pete_dushenski |
http://contravex.com/2014/08/24/for-states-small-is-beautiful/ |
20:21 |
assbot |
For States, Small Is Beautiful | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski |
20:21 |
pete_dushenski |
off to a celebration dinner, just leaving this year. |
20:21 |
pete_dushenski |
night all! |
20:21 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform to be perfectly fair, the guy wasn't keeping his finances in the best of orders (according to you know, the criteria required so you don't get called "a cult leader" by teh cult leadership). nevertheless, nothing nearly as bad as what the childfucker jimbo wales did in his day |
20:21 |
pete_dushenski |
s/year/here omfg |
20:21 |
mircea_popescu |
ironically, the very guy the entire clampdown on the internets exist to protect the internets for |
20:22 |
mircea_popescu |
gets to run a piece of shit "resource" that everyone pushes as if it were useful. |
20:22 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-07-2014#749841 |
20:22 |
assbot |
Logged on 09-07-2014 00:04:59; asciilifeform: pierce << ideal example of the animal described on one of mircea_popescu's essays - he could be packed into prison for life, any time, based on what's in his file. so he does as instructed. |
20:23 |
mircea_popescu |
obviously. but the convenience does not resolve the other angle. it's a ruinous association. |
20:23 |
asciilifeform |
example: pediwik page for nsa 'type a' - gone. |
20:23 |
asciilifeform |
perma-deleted. |
20:24 |
mircea_popescu |
"why do you hang out with these bums ?" "because they're the only people that call me a beauty queen", said the ambitious teenaged slut. |
20:24 |
mircea_popescu |
"well honey, that doesn't make them any less bums" |
20:24 |
mircea_popescu |
but yes, it's been for many decades now the established mo of the great "nation" of the united states : to grow an inch, cut an inch off the measuring tape. |
20:25 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 19 @ 0.29447997 = 5.5951 BTC [+] {6} |
20:25 |
cazalla |
mircea_popescu, i'm still interested in forum posting, didn't want you to think i was blowing it off even though that's what i've done this week, i'll bbl, week of logs to catch up on |
20:25 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla no biggy. this is the fungible sort of work, it'll wait. |
20:27 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: re: the use of pliable folks: consider, what was vyacheslav molotov's main job qualification ? |
20:27 |
asciilifeform |
(answer: his wife. in gulag.) |
20:27 |
mircea_popescu |
but he still sucked. |
20:27 |
mircea_popescu |
you know ? putting some idiot's wife in the gulag doesn't make him suddenly smart. |
20:27 |
asciilifeform |
sure. |
20:28 |
asciilifeform |
'smart' wasn't the top objective, though. |
20:28 |
asciilifeform |
pederasty doesn't make herr wales smarter, either. |
20:28 |
asciilifeform |
or brock pierce |
20:28 |
mircea_popescu |
think of it : two major powers, with very close ideologies, the absolute leader of one in love with the absolute leader of the other, managed to go to war! |
20:28 |
mircea_popescu |
who's to blame ? inept ribentropp, inept molotov, chiefly. |
20:29 |
mircea_popescu |
if they worked together we'd be sitting here speaking german threatening doom to the third reich. |
20:29 |
asciilifeform |
lol |
20:29 |
mircea_popescu |
so, what's the gulag got stalin ? a pliable idiot. |
20:29 |
mircea_popescu |
what's that cost him ? the great patriotic war. |
20:29 |
mircea_popescu |
millions of country boys had to be assembled in the choir invisible to rectify the mistakes of two inept diplomats. |
20:30 |
* |
asciilifeform isn't suggesting that the pliable idiot stratagem is a brilliant one that everyone should imitate - just pointing out its age. |
20:31 |
mircea_popescu |
its age, indeed. two hundred years old and change. |
20:31 |
mircea_popescu |
i think balzac is the first to describe it. some small sleepy country town somewhere, with two printing licenses |
20:31 |
mircea_popescu |
the owner of one figuring it's better to keep the other in the hands of its current inept owner than let him lose it. |
20:32 |
mircea_popescu |
or, if you prefer, de retz has some mentions in his memoirs, to the same principle. |
20:32 |
oglafbot |
http://oglaf.com/assumptions/ |
20:33 |
mircea_popescu |
when i see that name change i salivate. |
20:33 |
BingoBoingo |
lol |
20:35 |
mircea_popescu |
http://oglaf.com/buttocks/ << almond milk i'd go for. |
20:35 |
assbot |
Perfect buttocks now! |
20:36 |
BingoBoingo |
Almond milk is about the only way I find almonds palatable, the demon cyanide tasting seeds that they are. |
20:37 |
BingoBoingo |
Linked in an Oglaf ad banner http://theworstthingsforsale.com/2013/12/19/hide-liquor-in-your-tampons/ |
20:37 |
assbot |
Hide Liquor In Your Tampons » The Worst Things For Sale |
20:38 |
BingoBoingo |
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1480203246/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=1480203246&linkCode=as2&tag=natdee-20 |
20:38 |
assbot |
Non-Euclidean Geometry for Babies (Math for Babies): Fred Carlson: 9781480203242: Amazon.com: Books |
20:38 |
* |
asciilifeform misread as 'non-euclidean geometry for babes' |
20:39 |
BingoBoingo |
"Non-Euclidean Geometry for Babies is intended to introduce babies to the basics of Euclid's Geometry, and supposes that the so-called "Parallel Postulate" might not be true. " |
20:39 |
assbot |
Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/38587YY.txt ) |
20:39 |
BingoBoingo |
!b 2 |
20:40 |
asciilifeform |
http://oglaf.com/harrow << problems of rectothermodynamicists. |
20:40 |
assbot |
harrow |
20:45 |
mircea_popescu |
this isn't such a great thing for babies. |
20:53 |
asciilifeform |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRM7OZktALE << column of captive urks led through donetsk. water truck washes road after them, just like they did in the '44 parade after captured germans. |
20:53 |
assbot |
- YouTube |
20:54 |
mircea_popescu |
;;ud urk |
20:54 |
gribble |
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=urk | urk. to annoy or bother someone deeply. Gurl numba 1: grrrrrrr i don't like ha. Gurl numba 2: why not? she's nice.... Gurl numba 1: she just urks me..something ... |
20:54 |
asciilifeform |
ukrs. |
20:54 |
mircea_popescu |
heh. |
20:54 |
mircea_popescu |
o right |
20:54 |
mircea_popescu |
;;ud ukrs |
20:54 |
gribble |
Google found nothing. |
20:54 |
mircea_popescu |
yay. |
20:55 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform why's the reporter so fucking excited lol |
20:55 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00063423 = 6.5326 BTC [-] |
20:55 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 800 @ 0.00085468 = 0.6837 BTC [-] {4} |
20:56 |
asciilifeform |
!s ancient ukrs |
20:56 |
assbot |
0 results for 'ancient ukrs' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=ancient+ukrs |
20:56 |
asciilifeform |
damn. |
20:59 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-08-2014#801927 |
20:59 |
assbot |
Logged on 20-08-2014 04:00:19; *: asciilifeform prefers viktor pelevin's уркаина - 'urkaine', which metamorphosizes over 1000 years (in one of his tales) to 'urkland' and then 'orcland.' |
21:07 |
mircea_popescu |
you know words that don't even exist! |
21:07 |
mircea_popescu |
!up guest3455 |
21:09 |
BingoBoingo |
<asciilifeform> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRM7OZktALE << column of captive urks led through donetsk. water truck washes road after them, just like they did in the '44 parade after captured germans. << I like the flack vest clearly labeled "Press" |
21:09 |
assbot |
- YouTube |
21:10 |
BingoBoingo |
!up non2 |
21:10 |
BingoBoingo |
!up non2_ |
21:24 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 500 @ 0.00362467 = 1.8123 BTC [-] {12} |
21:26 |
asciilifeform |
http://xs-sniper.com/blackhat2014/BH2014-Billy-Rios.pdf |
21:35 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: actually the ukrs started really calling themselves that in the '90s, when they wrote the hilarious schoolbooks about 'ancient ukrs, they fought rome!' |
21:35 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah i know. we had a bunch of crypto natl-socialist idiots in romania too. |
21:36 |
asciilifeform |
now it's SOP among the resistance. |
21:36 |
asciilifeform |
aha. |
21:36 |
mircea_popescu |
i think even mentioned. |
21:36 |
asciilifeform |
we come from the ducks, who come from the trucks. |
21:36 |
asciilifeform |
yes. |
21:36 |
mircea_popescu |
they taught the greeks magic and romans to write don;'t you know./ |
21:41 |
asciilifeform |
http://imgur.com/V8M9nsA |
21:41 |
assbot |
imgur: the simple image sharer |
21:41 |
asciilifeform |
(from linked document) |
21:41 |
asciilifeform |
what's missing? plenty |
21:42 |
asciilifeform |
(what instrument? ion mobility spectrometer, clearly.) |
21:46 |
assbot |
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21:47 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform why the fuck windows. |
21:48 |
asciilifeform |
because! |
21:59 |
BingoBoingo |
!up josevelez |
22:00 |
assbot |
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22:14 |
penguirker |
New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/weak-sauce/ |
22:23 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: who's the fellow screaming at the crowd ? |
22:24 |
mircea_popescu |
taleb |
22:24 |
asciilifeform |
aha |
22:24 |
* |
asciilifeform guessed correctly |
22:25 |
* |
asciilifeform would love to buy a (yes) bowdlerized compendium of taleb, with all the annoying 'i'm the strongest man alive, grasp my throbbing cock!' crapola snipped out. |
22:25 |
mircea_popescu |
lol it bothers you ? |
22:26 |
asciilifeform |
it pattern-matches 'derp' and throws my concentration |
22:26 |
mircea_popescu |
kinda makes me chuckle privately. |
22:26 |
mircea_popescu |
guy's what, 60 by now ? |
22:26 |
mircea_popescu |
what's he going to do if say a bn chicks actually decide to go for it ? |
22:27 |
asciilifeform |
if i saw a mosquito for the first and only time, i'd probably laugh at it too |
22:27 |
mircea_popescu |
not like he has an elaborate sorting system in place. |
22:27 |
mircea_popescu |
he's setting himself up for catastrophic rewind. |
22:29 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: lol, you read Kvant ?!?! |
22:29 |
mircea_popescu |
i had THE COLLECTION. |
22:30 |
mircea_popescu |
who do you think you're talking to here. |
22:30 |
asciilifeform |
ahaha |
22:30 |
* |
asciilifeform has the collection |
22:30 |
mircea_popescu |
!ip Kieronbm |
22:30 |
mircea_popescu |
admittedly i couldn't really do the exercises |
22:30 |
mircea_popescu |
but i enjoyed looking at the pictures. |
22:31 |
* |
asciilifeform has a blast with bedtime reading of 'квант,' 'химия и жизнь,' 'наука и жизнь', etc. for ages now. who said '4k' tablets had no use. |
22:33 |
asciilifeform |
phun phact. 'прикладная химия' 1941 (forget which month) was devoted to recipes for... meth. |
22:33 |
mircea_popescu |
"theoretical physicists calculate the imaginary part of schroedinger function collapses for various items in their room and then convert it all to matrix form to go to sleep" |
22:34 |
asciilifeform |
(leningrad, during blockade, reportedly churned out 10kg/day.) |
22:34 |
mircea_popescu |
most serious bunkers include some. |
22:34 |
asciilifeform |
even today. |
22:34 |
mircea_popescu |
lol even today., well yes even today, what's changed ? |
22:35 |
asciilifeform |
'morals' lol |
22:36 |
mircea_popescu |
no they haven't lol. |
22:37 |
BingoBoingo |
Well now there's options like methylphenidate, modafinil, and all sorts of other imposters |
22:37 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: military men, afaik, are noted for a love of 'classic' tech |
22:38 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: if the soldier can only carry one pill, what modern replacement psychostimulator would suffice ? |
22:40 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: The germans had a pill... |
22:40 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: 'pervitin' ? that was ordinary 'meth' |
22:40 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/01/29/buy_a_piece_of_net << this is a great read btw, because look! look how desolate the field was, just ten short years ago, |
22:40 |
assbot |
Buy a piece of Net nostalgia for $5,000 The Register |
22:40 |
mircea_popescu |
back when we didn't have money. |
22:40 |
mircea_popescu |
and i don't mean some money, or even a lot of money. |
22:40 |
mircea_popescu |
i mean THE money. |
22:41 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: I'm thinking of the one that rolled the meth together with an opiate, and maybe a few other things |
22:41 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: why would you include an opiate ? |
22:42 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform because pure amphetamine is undiscriminatory. |
22:42 |
mircea_popescu |
ever had an itch / |
22:42 |
BingoBoingo |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-IX |
22:42 |
assbot |
D-IX - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
22:42 |
asciilifeform |
undiscriminatory ? |
22:43 |
BingoBoingo |
The itching, and fatigue... injury.. |
22:43 |
BingoBoingo |
<asciilifeform> undiscriminatory ? << Hits receptors without much regard for location in the body |
22:43 |
asciilifeform |
how does an opiate help here? |
22:44 |
mircea_popescu |
if well chosen the opiate is more selective. |
22:45 |
mircea_popescu |
at least that's the theory. |
22:45 |
BingoBoingo |
Including just enough for some analgesia masks side effects of the amphetamine activating all kinds of catecholamine receptors it wasn't intended to |
22:45 |
BingoBoingo |
Supposedly |
22:45 |
BingoBoingo |
The recreational term I think is "speedballing" |
22:48 |
asciilifeform |
'At first the members of the punishment battalion whistled and sang songs. [But] most of them had collapsed after the first 24 hours.' |
22:52 |
mircea_popescu |
by the way : http://or.wikipedia.org/wiki/ଓଡ଼ିଆ |
22:52 |
assbot |
- |
22:58 |
decimation |
I think methamphetamines are still prescribed for military pilots who need to 'remain alert' for days at a time |
22:59 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: "it pattern-matches 'derp' and throws my concentration" << yeah I have the same experience. |
23:00 |
mircea_popescu |
decimation they're self prescribed by doctors working the us meatgrinder for sure. |
23:00 |
mircea_popescu |
<decimation> asciilifeform: "it pattern-matches 'derp' and throws my concentration" << yeah I have the same experience. << does this happen with my stuff too ? |
23:01 |
ThickAsThieves |
cazalla, is it fibromyalgia? |
23:01 |
ThickAsThieves |
my dad has it |
23:01 |
ThickAsThieves |
sounds like uit |
23:02 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: not so much |
23:02 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves wasn't that for girls ? |
23:02 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: your stuff typically includes sufficient meth to drown out the opium. |
23:02 |
ThickAsThieves |
it's for people who beat up their bodies and are susceptible to it, i'm guessing |
23:03 |
ThickAsThieves |
dad has owned a masonry company most of his life |
23:03 |
mircea_popescu |
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11974674 |
23:03 |
assbot |
Gender differences in fibromyalgia... [J Gend Specif Med. 2002 Mar-Apr] - PubMed - NCBI |
23:03 |
mircea_popescu |
no look at that, i was actually right. 10% or so men. |
23:03 |
mircea_popescu |
looks like genetic on that basis. you gotta be really unlucky as a guy |
23:03 |
ThickAsThieves |
didnt know that |
23:04 |
ThickAsThieves |
i never met someone else with uit |
23:04 |
ThickAsThieves |
though i wouldbnt be surprised if it's in me too |
23:04 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform cause i was thinking, i prolly do more of it than poor taleb. |
23:04 |
mircea_popescu |
who, notably, has a lot more grounds than me to be all "fu world y u don't respek!" |
23:04 |
ThickAsThieves |
i think i heard pot helps with fibro |
23:05 |
ThickAsThieves |
havent gotten pops to try yet |
23:05 |
ThickAsThieves |
he's still busy breaking his back |
23:05 |
mircea_popescu |
wasn't this the poster for medical pot ? it helps fibromyalgia ? |
23:05 |
ThickAsThieves |
dunno |
23:05 |
asciilifeform |
perhaps the next pill, 'D-X,' will be a meth and thc combo |
23:06 |
ThickAsThieves |
i was never a pot activist |
23:06 |
ThickAsThieves |
though i like it just fine |
23:06 |
asciilifeform |
are there meth activists ? |
23:06 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform yes. they scrub things clean. |
23:06 |
mircea_popescu |
;;google look at me, busy as a bee |
23:06 |
gribble |
Meth song - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtLHKtNOcS8>; Meth Song - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxAYHOWxGi8>; Official Meth Theme Song - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ev6hV5ULLcs> |
23:06 |
ThickAsThieves |
meth had it's own acclaimed tv show, it's doing fine |
23:06 |
decimation |
mircea_popescu: you have a different writing style. you don't set off the 'derp' alarm, you set off the 'wait, wtf is he on about' alarm, which generally results in an interpretation excercise |
23:06 |
ThickAsThieves |
its |
23:07 |
asciilifeform |
surely someone is campaigning to have meth brought back to the masses. |
23:07 |
mircea_popescu |
decimation so taleb's mistake is that he's being a BANAL asshole ? |
23:07 |
ThickAsThieves |
there are the guys that think all drugs should be legal |
23:07 |
mircea_popescu |
tnk |
23:07 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves there are guys that thing all ages should be legal. |
23:07 |
mircea_popescu |
no shortage of guys. |
23:08 |
asciilifeform |
busy as a bee << funny that they show an idiot sow scrubbing, and not, e.g, paul erdos crapping out theorems |
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23:08 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform it's valid. a) erdos doesn't get his guidance from youtube ; b) most people taking it will scrub. |
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23:09 |
decimation |
mircea_popescu: yeah there's banality and there's also constant generalization. I realize he's trying to write generally, but it comes close to old-man ranting |
23:09 |
mircea_popescu |
it's part of that undiscrimination mentioned earlier. it seems to particularly empower any ocd streak you may have. |
23:09 |
mircea_popescu |
just like acid isn't a good adjuvant to latent paranoia. |
23:10 |
BingoBoingo |
http://music-mix.ew.com/2009/04/20/breaking-bads-s/ |
23:10 |
assbot |
How did a scary Mexican gangsta-rap group end up on one of TV's hottest shows? | The Music Mix | EW.com |
23:10 |
mircea_popescu |
decimation people got hacked lately with this "only the general is important" rootkit. it meshes well with the divinsation of data-in-se |
23:11 |
mircea_popescu |
because somehow they've decided "data" is a substance, it's no longer fit for the thinking man to generate data, and so no more of things like the excellent field reports people like saussure and levi-strauss dedicated their lives to |
23:11 |
mircea_popescu |
so now all one can still do with his mind is "generalize" |
23:11 |
mircea_popescu |
on the basis of the holy data, as such. |
23:12 |
decimation |
to me, if one is going to improve on the "only in general" then one is going to have to better than Kant, Kierkegaard, Spinoza, Leibniz, etc. |
23:12 |
* |
asciilifeform most people taking it will scrub << wonders what kind of 'public education' films will be made about, e.g., logic analyzers, when these are banned |
23:12 |
mircea_popescu |
decimation the point is valid, there's relatively little useful stuff these singers/songwriters can do. |
23:13 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform you actually dispute this ? |
23:13 |
decimation |
"on the basis of holy data" << oglaf's princeling is searching for holy data to generalize upon as well :) |
23:13 |
asciilifeform |
re: mexican drug ballads: obligatory: http://www.malavita.com/diemusik_en.html |
23:13 |
assbot |
LA MUSICA DELLA MAFIA |
23:14 |
mircea_popescu |
somehow it's conveniently forgotten that einstein's general revolution was based on laboratory data |
23:14 |
mircea_popescu |
THAT WAS MOSTLY NOT ACCEPTED AS DATA at the time. |
23:14 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: i believe it. most people - will, likely - scrub. |
23:14 |
decimation |
so was maxwell's brilliant analysis |
23:14 |
mircea_popescu |
the establishment had a different set of data. |
23:14 |
mircea_popescu |
decimation exactly. |
23:14 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform not saying this is grounds to make anything legal or illegal, obviously. |
23:15 |
mircea_popescu |
but i don't believe you'll ever be able to run a place where drugs (the actual sort) are legal, for purely economic reasons. |
23:15 |
asciilifeform |
gedankenexperiment time. go to your workbench, pick some precious, rare, instrument - and contemplate what 'most people' would do with it. |
23:15 |
asciilifeform |
enough to give you insomnia. |
23:17 |
asciilifeform |
economic reasons >> so long as the slaves get the right kind of marching powder (i.e., with the requisite proportion of meth to opium) - what economic reasons ? |
23:17 |
mircea_popescu |
exactly those. |
23:17 |
mircea_popescu |
you presume to know who the slaves are. |
23:17 |
mircea_popescu |
how would you ? |
23:17 |
asciilifeform |
presumably - the folks queueing up for the marching powder ? |
23:18 |
mircea_popescu |
but whether it's legal or illegal doesn't decide whether they queue up for it |
23:18 |
mircea_popescu |
instead, it decides if you may force them to take it. |
23:18 |
asciilifeform |
aha the olympics thread |
23:18 |
mircea_popescu |
quite. |
23:18 |
asciilifeform |
'if you can, you must' ? |
23:18 |
mircea_popescu |
exactly. making conception illegal for young women is fundamental if you want an educated set of women |
23:19 |
mircea_popescu |
because if it's not illegal, they'll all get impregnated aged 16 |
23:19 |
mircea_popescu |
the most curious one the first and foremost |
23:19 |
mircea_popescu |
and curiosity is a cognate of intelligence. especially in women |
23:20 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: "rare instrument" << I'm imagining a spectrum analyzer providing light for reading :( |
23:20 |
mircea_popescu |
decimation i bet you he had this microscope nails thing in his head. |
23:21 |
asciilifeform |
or this: |
23:21 |
asciilifeform |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pzvEouWino |
23:21 |
assbot |
C1-65A - Bad Apple (HD) - YouTube |
23:21 |
* |
BingoBoingo awaits the Bitcoincorridos |
23:22 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: lol I'm not sure that old crt o-scope could be put to much better use |
23:23 |
* |
asciilifeform is quite partial to crt scope, except on occasion of travel |
23:24 |
BingoBoingo |
"Next, Golubic contacted Sony/BMG Latin, one of the few American labels that produces narcocorridos,and the label offered one of its up-and-coming acts, Les Cuates deSinaloa." |
23:24 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: I would agree that nothing quite replaces that "temporary storage" of phosphor fading slowly |
23:25 |
asciilifeform |
[insert obligatory bitching about ADC quantization artifacts here] |
23:26 |
assbot |
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23:27 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: yeah most folks don't realize the limitations of adc's, especially when it comes to dynamic range issues |
23:29 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: I see your o-scope video raise you this guy: http://blog.narrat1ve.com/2013/08/08/vectors-or-my-man-inf-left-a-vec-and-a-9-at-my-crib/ |
23:29 |
assbot |
Nerdy Texts of Analog and Embedded Systems Wizardry » Blog Archive » Vectors, or “My Man Inf Left A VEC and a 9 At My Crib” |
23:31 |
* |
asciilifeform lolz, owns that board |
23:31 |
decimation |
the xilinx board? |
23:31 |
asciilifeform |
that one. |
23:32 |
asciilifeform |
(among others) |
23:32 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1659 @ 0.00063735 = 1.0574 BTC [+] |
23:39 |
decimation |
apparently this guy wrote most of the RTL: http://www.batslyadams.com/ |
23:39 |
assbot |
Andy's Electronics Projects |