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00:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 100 @ 0.00576359 = 0.5764 BTC [-] {7}
00:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.07699998 = 0.616 BTC [+] {3}
00:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4406 @ 0.00082589 = 3.6389 BTC [-] {2}
00:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00083033 = 7.473 BTC [+]
00:24 BingoBoingo http://www.twincities.com/business/ci_25037984/dont-panic-but-that-public-wi-fi-is
00:24 ozbot Don't panic, but that public Wi-Fi is coming from ... inside your house - TwinCities.com
00:28 mod6 ``im fine with it'' << lol derp
00:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00082764 = 5.0486 BTC [-]
00:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59990997 BTC [+]
00:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59990989 BTC [-]
00:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.0008256 = 8.5862 BTC [-]
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01:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 6 @ 0.03239999 = 0.1944 BTC [-] {3}
01:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 6 @ 0.03239999 = 0.1944 BTC [-] {2}
01:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11550 @ 0.000825 = 9.5288 BTC [-] {3}
01:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 4 @ 0.03239999 = 0.1296 BTC [-] {2}
01:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 4 @ 0.03239999 = 0.1296 BTC [-] {2}
01:14 pennies ;-;
01:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 5 @ 0.03299999 = 0.165 BTC [+]
01:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.589 BTC [-]
01:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 998 @ 0.00082764 = 0.826 BTC [+]
01:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.57003008 BTC [-]
01:32 MisterE dammit losing money
01:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 996 @ 0.00018 = 0.1793 BTC [-]
01:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 198 @ 0.00479999 = 0.9504 BTC [+] {2}
01:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6318 @ 0.00083033 = 5.246 BTC [+]
01:43 BingoBoingo MisterE: In what?
01:43 MisterE fucking nmc
01:43 MisterE had no business in there
01:44 MisterE got greedyyesterday
01:44 MisterE I'm still in the black but...
01:45 BingoBoingo MisterE: Has NMC had any momentum after 2011?
01:45 MisterE Blockchain's news was disappointing
01:45 MisterE yea it did yesterday
01:45 BingoBoingo What news?
01:45 MisterE they are an exchange now
01:45 BingoBoingo Orly?
01:45 MisterE annouced and pre-hyped on bloomberg
01:45 MisterE yea
01:46 BingoBoingo Linx plox?
01:46 MisterE so market shat after that dud
01:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00082758 = 11.1723 BTC [-] {2}
01:46 BingoBoingo benkay
01:46 MisterE dunno wtf people were expecting... Magic The Gathering cards for everyone who had BTC in Gox...
01:46 BingoBoingo ;;eauth BingoBoingo
01:46 gribble Request successful for user BingoBoingo, hostmask BingoBoingo!~BingoBoin@unaffiliated/bingoboingo. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/309BB8D7F3251143
01:47 MisterE ;;eauth MisterE
01:47 gribble Request successful for user MisterE, hostmask MisterE!~MisterE@unaffiliated/mistere. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/C97817F2EE7504A3
01:47 BingoBoingo ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:6708d41118170ae49785e8fc104616a172d609f0329a1f092a0271aa
01:47 gribble You are now authenticated for user BingoBoingo with key 309BB8D7F3251143
01:47 BingoBoingo MisterE: Do you want to try something riskier?
01:47 MisterE lol
01:48 MisterE I didnt say no
01:48 MisterE :p
01:48 BingoBoingo MisterE: Actual returns might be possible.
01:49 theviper Bro., DO you even trade?
01:50 BingoBoingo MisterE: If we can figure out how to make something like http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-03-2014#546112 honest
01:51 MisterE like day trade?
01:51 MisterE not usually
01:51 MisterE ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:1bd83fecf4cf9084af386187aa25a12b17cd81f5462d260bd259082e
01:51 gribble You are now authenticated for user MisterE with key C97817F2EE7504A3
01:52 BingoBoingo MisterE: Like staking sports betting, Similar to how poker is staked. The challenge is doing it in a way that the staked party can't fake the results into an honest looking loss.
01:52 BingoBoingo And finding venues to bet on.
01:52 MisterE what BTC really needs is a derivatives market
01:52 MisterE sounds like a major security hassle tbh
01:53 MisterE but I'll read the log give me a few
01:53 MisterE ll :p
01:53 BingoBoingo MisterE: No hassles so much as challenges
01:55 BingoBoingo The challenge in BTC right now is that the only instrument which has really sustained honest loses is the MPOE bond
02:02 BingoBoingo That example I linked in the logs is poorly structured, and in sports betting the actual likely best case is a 30%loss.
02:02 BingoBoingo Poor opportunity.
02:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 239 @ 0.0048 = 1.1472 BTC [+]
02:06 BingoBoingo ;;rate artifexd_ 1 ATC trade
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02:09 BingoBoingo ;;rate mircea_popescu 6 Rating upgraded for continued excellence in Bitcoin ventures
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02:09 BingoBoingo ;;rate benkay 2 Good at things he does
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02:11 BingoBoingo ;;rate ThickAsThieves 1 The Real Altcoin's Mother
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02:14 BingoBoingo ;;rate kakobrekla 5 Superest Superservant
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02:16 BingoBoingo ;;rate paraipan 0
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02:16 BingoBoingo ;;unrate thebutterzone
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02:19 BingoBoingo ;;rate thebutterzone 1 sells things
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02:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 61 @ 0.00463034 = 0.2825 BTC [-] {2}
02:20 dub ;;rate BingoBoingo -1 suspected spammer
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02:23 BingoBoingo lol
02:29 BingoBoingo ;;rate dub 1 Not stinky
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02:44 * jurov smells BigoBoingo
02:44 jurov aww... booze
02:44 BingoBoingo jurov: I dun smell too good right nao
02:46 BingoBoingo I drank vodka and ate a half wheel of Maytag Blue cheese.
02:46 BingoBoingo Imma be lucky if my farts don't kill me before I wake up tomorrow afternoon
02:47 jurov don't fart near open fire
02:48 BingoBoingo I'll try not to
02:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00083029 = 4.7327 BTC [+]
02:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00083052 = 5.4814 BTC [+] {2}
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03:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 119 @ 0.00463034 = 0.551 BTC [-]
03:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9950 @ 0.0008302 = 8.2605 BTC [-] {2}
03:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2060 @ 0.00083007 = 1.7099 BTC [-] {2}
03:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4840 @ 0.00082811 = 4.0081 BTC [-]
03:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4150 @ 0.00082808 = 3.4365 BTC [-] {2}
03:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00082747 = 8.5229 BTC [-] {2}
03:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3293 @ 0.0008266 = 2.722 BTC [-]
03:53 adrrrr #bitcoin Cannot join channel (+i) - you must be invited
04:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.0429998 = 0.258 BTC [-] {2}
04:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2360 @ 0.00082648 = 1.9505 BTC [-]
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04:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 77 @ 0.00479975 = 0.3696 BTC [+]
04:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 65 @ 0.0055 = 0.3575 BTC
04:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 106 @ 0.0047 = 0.4982 BTC [-] {2}
04:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 300 @ 0.0008948 = 0.2684 BTC [+]
04:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.0008306 = 4.7344 BTC [+]
04:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.59449498 = 1.189 BTC [+] {2}
04:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59498997 BTC [+]
05:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 61 @ 0.00479985 = 0.2928 BTC [+] {2}
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05:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07550007 = 0.3775 BTC [-] {3}
05:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.07500017 = 0.45 BTC [-] {2}
05:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [MS] 54 @ 0.00298018 = 0.1609 BTC [-]
05:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.07237016 = 0.579 BTC [-] {5}
05:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07211225 = 0.1442 BTC [-] {2}
05:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0720415 = 0.2161 BTC [-] {2}
05:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5799 @ 0.00082811 = 4.8022 BTC [-]
05:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.13361787 = 0.2672 BTC [+]
05:34 mircea_popescu so i have a short statement re : http://bitbet.us/bet/621/any-altcoin-will-surpass-litecoin-in-market-capitalization/
05:34 mircea_popescu it will resolve as yes presently. coinmarketcap.com is henceforth banned as a source on bitbet.
05:34 mircea_popescu sorry, sanity. i tried.
05:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 56 @ 0.00479989 = 0.2688 BTC [+] {2}
05:38 punkman1 oh MazaCoin is 5th in volume now, http://coinmarketcap.com/volume.html#mzc
05:39 punkman1 and here is aurora for spain, http://spaincoin.es/
05:39 mircea_popescu by now you can just edit the page, write random numbers. just as reflective of reality.
05:40 punkman1 pretty much
05:40 mircea_popescu they should probably relaunch as a wiki, "the fake mkt cap numbers anyone can edit"
05:40 punkman1 there's like 3 dozen altcoin "exchanges" ready to add any random scamcoin
05:40 mircea_popescu we need price signal, this is ridiculous
05:40 mircea_popescu i mean, intellectually ridiculous. back in 2011 bruce wagner's antics made bitcoin easy to dismiss as "that cp ring"
05:41 mircea_popescu now this bullshit makes bitcoin easy to dismiss as "indian highschool tomfoolery"
05:44 punkman1 "mine MinerTokens, rent more mining power to mine more MinerTokens to rent more mining power to mine more MinerTokens..... You can see where I'm going with this."
05:44 mircea_popescu heh
05:45 punkman1 surprised there's not a dozen of these already
05:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 200 @ 0.00089498 = 0.179 BTC [+]
05:45 punkman1 "Our minerrigs will be avaible for rent from launch. A total of 1.6 Gh scrypt will be rentet out for 50,000 MTK/Mh/day. When your total rent pass 1000 Mh you will be the legal owner of a 5Mh rig. You can then chose to continue let us host it and get 80% of the rentalprofit or you can get it shipped to your door"
05:48 mircea_popescu which one is this ?
05:48 punkman1 the MinerTokens
05:48 mircea_popescu wait, literally minertokens ?
05:48 mircea_popescu jesus.
05:48 punkman1 you pay in minertokens to rent minertoken mining rigs
05:51 punkman1 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=483295.0
05:51 ozbot [ANN][COM] COMRADE - New Innovative MinerStakeholder Concept - Profit for People
05:51 punkman1 these guys want 0.1btc to let you mine or something
05:52 punkman1 "-StakeHolder-Miners pay a fee of 0.1BTC to register. Miner-Stake holders who pay the fee for early mining access will be known as THE GENERALS"
05:52 mircea_popescu THE SUPERBLY GRANDIOSE WUNDERBARS
05:53 punkman1 "COMRADE crypto movement designed to replicate the economic tactics used by the Comrade leaders of the USSR to rise the Soviet Union from the Ashes to what become the most powerful nation in the world (at the time)."
06:01 mircea_popescu no
06:01 mircea_popescu you're kidding me right ?
06:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00082983 = 11.2027 BTC [+] {2}
06:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07697949 = 0.154 BTC [+] {2}
06:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16327 @ 0.00082936 = 13.541 BTC [-] {2}
06:15 ThickAsThieves i had bet yes on the areolacoin bet btw
06:15 ThickAsThieves i saw no other outcome
06:16 ThickAsThieves comrade coin says "COMMUNIST" on it
06:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07697537 = 0.154 BTC [-] {2}
06:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8450 @ 0.0008291 = 7.0059 BTC [-] {3}
06:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2000 @ 0.0046 = 9.2 BTC [-] {15}
06:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2750 @ 0.00452665 = 12.4483 BTC [-] {8}
06:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.00450334 = 4.5033 BTC [-] {11}
06:29 punkman1 ThickAsThieves: maybe ATC needs some dice http://altdice.net/
06:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9250 @ 0.00082687 = 7.6485 BTC [-] {2}
06:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07697229 = 0.1539 BTC [-]
06:39 ThickAsThieves know someone reputable to make/run it?
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07:02 cazalla at what point do these alts collapse under their own weight?
07:03 dub when the one true altcoin rises to engulf them
07:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07697227 = 0.1539 BTC [-]
07:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 19 @ 0.0057499 = 0.1092 BTC [+]
07:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3329 @ 0.00082582 = 2.7492 BTC [-]
07:20 punkman1 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=476411.0
07:20 ozbot MuCoWa - A MultiCoinWallet to your service - Update now: 1.3.0 Quark added
07:20 punkman1 "Since the code is obfuscated, would it be possible to monitor the web traffic going out from the wallet to make sure it never sends private keys anywhere?"
07:22 mircea_popescu winner.
07:24 mircea_popescu cazalla about 18 weeks
07:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00083063 = 4.8177 BTC [+]
07:29 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves ya well, so good for you.
07:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.00451 = 0.1804 BTC [+]
07:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14850 @ 0.000831 = 12.3404 BTC [+] {2}
07:35 mircea_popescu soo apparently the niagara has frozxen over
07:36 mircea_popescu http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2572681/Niagara-Falls-comes-frozen-halt-AGAIN-subfreezing-temperatures-freeze-millions-gallons-water-normally-flow-Falls.html
07:36 ozbot Niagara Falls comes to frozen halt AGAIN as subfreezing temperatures freeze water | Mail Online
07:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 219 @ 0.0045 = 0.9855 BTC [-] {4}
07:38 chetty 23% thought an "MP3" was a "Star Wars" robot
07:39 chetty 42% said they believed a "motherboard" was "the deck of a cruise ship"
07:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6442 @ 0.00082552 = 5.318 BTC [-]
07:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1022 @ 0.00018777 = 0.1919 BTC [-]
07:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 3 @ 0.0445 = 0.1335 BTC [+]
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08:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00082817 = 8.3645 BTC [+] {2}
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08:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16202 @ 0.00082505 = 13.3675 BTC [-] {3}
08:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.09199995 = 0.368 BTC [+] {2}
08:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0425 = 0.1275 BTC [-]
08:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 75 @ 0.00464998 = 0.3487 BTC [+]
08:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1502 @ 0.00018799 = 0.2824 BTC [+] {2}
08:43 ThickAsThieves https://medium.com/p/b64cf5912aa7
08:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.13311598 = 0.3993 BTC [-]
08:53 chetty The snipers who shot at protesters and police in Kiev were allegedly hired by Maidan leaders, according to a leaked phone conversation between the EU foreign affairs chief Catherine Ashton and Estonian foreign affairs minister, which has emerged online.
08:54 asciilifeform chetty: this is not news to me
08:55 chetty well the tape is news :P
08:55 mircea_popescu the tape is news.
08:55 asciilifeform yes, it is.
08:56 asciilifeform (but not in the u.s. media, unsurprisingly.)
08:58 asciilifeform ThickAsThieves: nsa shills.
09:02 asciilifeform 'SSL is one of very few crypto systems that’s in daily usage by hundreds of millions of people. Remarkably, it seems that governments have not compromised the infrastructure.'
09:02 asciilifeform trololol
09:02 mircea_popescu lol
09:02 mircea_popescu well yeah, most governments haven't.
09:03 asciilifeform 'Usability studies have shown nobody outside of the tiny security community understands the web of trust or how to use it.'
09:03 mircea_popescu euros because they're too lazy to do it, and prefer to suckle on the us drip,
09:03 mircea_popescu and north korea because too stupid.
09:03 mircea_popescu asciilifeform :D chump selection techniques.
09:03 asciilifeform 'It’s not clear how you would build a secure way to initialise the Trezor, as you’d need to use an untrusted computer to present trusted keys into the device. A virus (MITM) could intercept and rewrite the keys as they were being loaded into the device. Unless you had key fingerprints written down on paper, it’d be impossible to notice a mismatch. Pre-agreed root certs installed at the factory solve this
09:03 asciilifeform problem.'
09:03 asciilifeform ahahahaha
09:03 mircea_popescu there are 2 sorts of people in this world, and they're made apparent by the reaction to the statement "few understand this"
09:03 asciilifeform this is just too good
09:03 mircea_popescu type 1 is no longer interested. type 2 is now very interested.
09:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8687 @ 0.00082483 = 7.1653 BTC [-]
09:08 ThickAsThieves maybe one/both of you should write a rebuttal
09:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.0008246 = 10.225 BTC [-]
09:08 ThickAsThieves before he takes the bitcoin jesus torch
09:08 asciilifeform why now and not after
09:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4463 @ 0.00082483 = 3.6812 BTC [+]
09:14 mircea_popescu lol
09:14 ThickAsThieves parachutes?
09:14 asciilifeform btc jizzus is no catastrophe
09:14 mircea_popescu ^
09:15 mircea_popescu who are you quoting anyway
09:15 ThickAsThieves hearn
09:15 Apocalyptic <asciilifeform> [15:03:49] this is just too good // it is
09:15 asciilifeform Apocalyptic: https://medium.com/p/b64cf5912aa7
09:17 ThickAsThieves "Anyone can buy or sell the currency, but the Lakota are keeping half of it in reserve in order to prevent the wild speculation that has caused Bitcoin such price volatility. ... After an hour of questions, Harris thanked the small crowd and was promptly accosted by a tall man and a woman in red who wanted to buy some MazaCoin, which Harris was selling for 10 cents apiece. The two
09:17 ThickAsThieves trailed him around the room as he hunted for a printer so he could issue the digital currency on paper. "
09:17 ThickAsThieves ...
09:17 ThickAsThieves "We’ve gone through 100 years of imposed poverty. That’s the fight we’re having"
09:18 asciilifeform the traditional de-colonialization move from imposed to... self-imposed
09:20 ThickAsThieves "CIA officers allegedly hacked into the US Senate Intelligence Committee's computers to find out what the oversight committee had found out about its controversial detention and treatment of terror suspects.‬"
09:20 Apocalyptic asciilifeform, thanks for the link
09:20 Apocalyptic this Hearn is a gold mine
09:21 mike_c "being a CA involves tedious, mind-numbingly repetitive yet security critical work that unpaid volunteers are ill equipped to do well. " has he ever gone through the process of getting a SSL cert?? they don't do shit.
09:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2930 @ 0.00082724 = 2.4238 BTC [+]
09:22 asciilifeform they're experts at vacuuming $$$$$
09:22 mike_c the bullshit per line in that article is astounding.
09:22 chetty A Florida woman has gone head to head with a local judge who has declared her efforts to live off the grid illegal and in violation of local and international code ordinances.
09:22 ThickAsThieves i dont even know what a SSL really does, nor am I a programmer, but I have successfully purchased and installed one on a system I advised the client was not really secure
09:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10070 @ 0.0008262 = 8.3198 BTC [-]
09:22 asciilifeform chetty: link ?
09:23 ThickAsThieves it took like 5min
09:24 chetty http://www.offthegridnews.com/2013/12/16/florida-city-evicting-woman-for-living-off-the-grid/
09:25 punkman1 http://arstechnica.com/business/2014/03/behold-arscoin-our-own-custom-cryptocurrency/
09:25 ozbot Behold Arscoin, our own custom cryptocurrency | Ars Technica
09:26 asciilifeform chetty: surprised ?
09:26 ThickAsThieves asscoins heh
09:27 ThickAsThieves buyer of coingen.io http://super3.org/
09:28 ThickAsThieves he looks like he's 17
09:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 497 @ 0.0045 = 2.2365 BTC [-] {7}
09:29 chetty asciilifeform: nope it was inevitable really
09:30 ThickAsThieves "I asked my wife what she would trade for 5,000 Arscoins. Her answer: “A kiss?” Boom! A market had been created." lol
09:30 asciilifeform chetty: beautifully described in 'The Art of Not Being Governed', J. C. Scott
09:30 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves lmao hearn.
09:31 Apocalyptic "The user experience must be incredibly simple", "The main justification for this design choice is usability. In the same way that security cannot be bolted on at the last minute, the reverse also holds — you can’t bolt usability on to a secure system that was designed without human beings in mind"
09:31 Apocalyptic I see a powerfull parallel with http://trilema.com/2014/the-definitive-tract-on-sociopathy/ here
09:31 mircea_popescu mike_c he's just trying to misrepresent himself into relevancy
09:32 Apocalyptic yeah don't focus on how shit has to be done, focus on the people fss !
09:32 mircea_popescu pretty much the foundation halmark. it's due to the failure modes of the ycombinated mind.
09:32 mircea_popescu wait i wrote that ?!
09:32 asciilifeform 'a secure system that was designed without human beings in mind'
09:32 * asciilifeform only designs for fellow Orcs
09:33 Apocalyptic mircea_popescu, no the quotes are from Hearn
09:33 mircea_popescu Apocalyptic i was shocked at the trilema link
09:33 mircea_popescu i totally forgot i wrote that article.
09:33 mircea_popescu i write too much ;/
09:34 mircea_popescu nice article.
09:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6750 @ 0.00082858 = 5.5929 BTC [+] {2}
09:41 asciilifeform http://www.exploit-db.com/exploits/31875/
09:41 asciilifeform original:
09:41 asciilifeform http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=GHXSmNEg
09:44 Apocalyptic interesting
09:44 r3wt ;;bcauth r3wt
09:44 gribble Request successful for user r3wt, hostmask r3wt!add82c3d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.216.44.61. Your challenge string is: freenode:#bitcoin-otc:7abdae0508ae0bf19ba9ddebfc0b68c090c3f35af9f2e9230dd4db47
09:45 r3wt greetings
09:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4550 @ 0.00082967 = 3.775 BTC [+]
09:47 ThickAsThieves hi
09:48 r3wt hello super hackers
09:48 r3wt i seek knowledge of prepared queries in php
09:48 r3wt because i am not worthy
09:48 r3wt and so i fail
09:49 chetty Former IRS official Lois Lerner pleading the Fifth right now. <<< again
09:51 Apocalyptic <r3wt> i seek knowledge of prepared queries in php // what happened to the LUA version ?
09:52 ThickAsThieves http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1zmgiq/new_side_channel_attack_that_can_recover_private/
09:52 ozbot New Side Channel Attack That Can Recover Private Keys : Bitcoin
09:52 ThickAsThieves by guess who
09:52 ThickAsThieves Hearn
09:52 asciilifeform cache diddling is old hat.
09:52 ThickAsThieves by guess what
09:52 ThickAsThieves OpenSSl
09:53 r3wt lua version is here
09:53 r3wt http://162.248.6.58/login.lua
09:53 asciilifeform i don't see a Hearn in that paper
09:53 ThickAsThieves sorry, he's the one sharing it
09:53 r3wt still working on the php version though as it could be along time until the lua version is actually ready for production.
09:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4550 @ 0.0008314 = 3.7829 BTC [+]
09:55 mircea_popescu lol r3wt
09:55 r3wt anyone wanna buy some fee shares? we're broke and need some more "development money". and by development money, i mean money to pay ourselves and buy more shit.
09:56 Mats_cd03 what are you building
09:56 mircea_popescu and what are fee shares
09:56 r3wt same thing we've been building.
09:56 r3wt https://openex.pw
09:56 Mats_cd03 lua based exchange?
09:56 ozbot OpenEx
09:56 punkman1 you share the fees of running the exchange
09:56 r3wt started as php, now moving to lua
09:57 Apocalyptic r3wt, you should IPO on MPex
09:57 r3wt isn't that a scam?
09:58 Mats_cd03 did you use bootstrap for the frontend
09:58 r3wt lol no, thats all from scratch
09:58 r3wt ive never used bootstrap
09:59 r3wt bootstrap is for the design challenged
09:59 Apocalyptic <Apocalyptic> r3wt, you should IPO on MPex
09:59 Apocalyptic <r3wt> isn't that a scam? // kako you need to bash this
09:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 20 @ 0.0055 = 0.11 BTC
10:00 r3wt how does one "IPO on MPEX" and what are the benefits of doing so?
10:00 punkman1 r3wt: so are you currently smashing strings together to make SQL?
10:00 Mats_cd03 same as a usual IPO. raise virtual buttcoins
10:01 r3wt unfortunately yes. that's why i'm here. i know mircea_popescu probably knows how to teach me to do it the right way
10:01 jcpham mircea_popescu absolutely loves to teach people
10:01 jcpham arguable one of his finest talests and favorite past-times
10:01 jcpham *talents
10:02 Apocalyptic yeah he does
10:02 Apocalyptic though after you called his thing a scam not sure he will be most pleased and willing
10:02 jcpham if i send monies will you thern reinvest my monies in riskier ventures
10:03 r3wt Apocalyptic, i was talking about his securities exchange. i'm talking about the negative stigma associated with bitcoin ipo's
10:03 r3wt wasn't**
10:03 Apocalyptic r3wt, how is it worse than actual shares ?
10:03 Diablo-D3 yeah, fuck bitcoin IPOs
10:03 Diablo-D3 its not worth the trouble
10:03 ThickAsThieves mp can handle noobs calling mpex a scam
10:03 Diablo-D3 no legitimate investors
10:03 jcpham unless D3 mining on nvidia
10:04 Diablo-D3 all trolls expecting 1000% profit
10:04 Diablo-D3 in a week
10:04 * jcpham throws money at million dollar datacenter
10:04 * r3wt fails
10:04 Apocalyptic in the way you get a contract, shares are traded on an 3rd party platform hopefully better built and you got access to liquidity you don't have at your exchange ?
10:04 Diablo-D3 jcpham: Im just doing it myself now
10:04 Diablo-D3 so much easier
10:04 Apocalyptic among other things
10:04 jcpham i'm teasing but at least you got the reference
10:04 jcpham cool beans
10:05 ThickAsThieves no one will accept an OpenEx IPO right now, other than CryptoStocks
10:06 ThickAsThieves but then you'll be rubbing elbows with every scam of the week
10:06 r3wt fuck that
10:06 r3wt would it be wise to sell a portion of my business for capital?
10:07 r3wt we have a few offers, none of them very good but i'm examining my options.
10:07 Diablo-D3 r3wt: dude
10:07 r3wt i don't want to go back to hanging chickens at tyson
10:07 Diablo-D3 this is a fucking irc channel
10:07 Diablo-D3 and wtf is your business anyhow?
10:07 r3wt this is an IRC channel? no fuckign way!
10:07 jcpham tyson got bought by koch
10:08 Apocalyptic r3wt, somehow since mcxnow came with the idea now it's seems to be a trend
10:08 Apocalyptic *it
10:08 r3wt please never compare us to mcxnow
10:09 r3wt we aren't here to scam, we just needed start up money because we are poor fucks\
10:09 punkman1 https://github.com/r3wt/openex/blob/master/models/funcs.general.php#L116
10:09 jcpham mcxnow is legit compared to whatever this is
10:09 r3wt and look, we actually delivered some
10:09 jcpham at this moment
10:09 r3wt its not great yet i know, but we are working hard everyday
10:09 jcpham you need traction not publicity
10:10 jcpham an organic userbase
10:10 punkman1 r3wt: that doesn't look very responsible
10:10 Diablo-D3 r3wt: what the fuck is your company
10:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2450 @ 0.00083062 = 2.035 BTC [-]
10:11 Mats_cd03 ill fund you if you have 7% profit month over month for a year
10:11 jcpham https://openex.pw/
10:11 Mats_cd03 thats how investing works right
10:11 r3wt any advice punkman1?
10:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.0045 = 0.225 BTC [-]
10:12 punkman1 r3wt: mysql_real_escape_string is deprecated, maybe suspend trading for a while
10:12 jcpham need moar pipe
10:13 r3wt i meant advice on how to make prepared statements, because i'm actually just a noob with a dream. no college education, just read a book about php
10:13 ThickAsThieves <r3wt> its not great yet i know, but we are working hard everyday // who is "we"?
10:13 artifexd ;;ident
10:13 gribble Nick 'artifexd', with hostmask 'artifexd!~artifexd@unaffiliated/artifexd', is not identified.
10:13 r3wt but yeah, i can shut the exchange down at anytime
10:14 jcpham that's the gox and others example
10:14 jcpham whoopsie. halt trading
10:14 r3wt done
10:14 jcpham all btc lost
10:14 ThickAsThieves r3wtm the problem is you are a noob voluntering to be responsible with people's money, which noobness, particularly of the programmer variety, is least qualified to do
10:15 r3wt trading is closed for now, this is my goal for the day. learn to use prepared statements and replace them throughout the site.
10:15 ThickAsThieves taking investors piles it on
10:15 r3wt any advice?
10:15 r3wt or maybe a link to a guide?
10:16 r3wt fuck it, i guess like everything else in life i have to learn this on my own.
10:16 r3wt no worries
10:17 r3wt i have one question. is mysqli safe enough or should i go for the pdo extension?
10:17 jcpham normally i get paid to pick stuff apart
10:17 artifexd r3wt You're asking programming questions in a channel about investing. Stackoverflow would be a good place to find answers to the type of questions you're asking.
10:18 punkman1 php.net has all the examples you need
10:18 r3wt i'm banned from asking questions on stackoverflow
10:18 r3wt i think
10:18 jcpham wow
10:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5450 @ 0.0008314 = 4.5311 BTC [+]
10:19 artifexd What's your so username?
10:19 Apocalyptic jcpham, this gets better every line
10:19 * jcpham backs away from the keyboard
10:20 artifexd http://stackoverflow.com/users/2401804/r3wt
10:20 ozbot User r3wt - Stack Overflow
10:24 mircea_popescu ;;gettrust r3wt
10:24 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user r3wt: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=r3wt | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=r3wt | Rated since: never
10:24 mircea_popescu well i mean in principle, but gotta build up first.
10:24 mircea_popescu how the fuck does one get banned on stack overflow
10:25 r3wt i'm not banned, just banned from askign questions. look at the first two questions i asked and it should be all you need to know
10:26 * r3wt shuns himself in the corner for 10 minutes
10:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9096 @ 0.00083159 = 7.5641 BTC [+] {2}
10:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4654 @ 0.00083195 = 3.8719 BTC [+]
10:29 artifexd http://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/86997/what-can-i-do-when-getting-we-are-no-longer-accepting-questions-answers-from-th
10:29 ozbot What can I do when getting "We are no longer accepting questions/answers from this account"? - Meta
10:33 jcpham ;;gettrust mircea_popescu
10:33 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user jcpham to user mircea_popescu: Level 1: 5, Level 2: 25 via 23 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=jcpham&dest=mircea_popescu | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=mircea_popescu | Rated since: Fri Jul 22 11:04:26 2011
10:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8981 @ 0.00083 = 7.4542 BTC [-] {2}
10:35 jcpham sometimes i look at these trust graphs and ratings and i see emotion
10:36 mircea_popescu sveet love an' devotion
10:36 nubbins` hi
10:36 jcpham hi nubbs
10:37 nubbins` http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OE2l6CPna4M
10:37 ozbot Worst music video ever - YouTube
10:37 nubbins` came across this ^ last night
10:37 nubbins` actually a pretty rad song
10:37 nubbins` music video sucks tho ;(
10:37 jcpham is it better than walls fall out
10:37 nubbins` probably
10:37 nubbins` it's just WAITING to be covered
10:38 jcpham without the video, if i only heard it I would think it sucked less than i now think
10:38 jcpham because i saw the video
10:38 nubbins` nod
10:38 jcpham http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OE2l6CPna4M
10:38 ozbot Worst music video ever - YouTube
10:38 jcpham nope
10:39 jcpham not that one clipboard
10:39 jcpham https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkZLl1CUT9s
10:39 r3wt damnit to hell
10:39 ozbot Walls Fall Out - OFFICIAL - YouTube
10:39 nubbins` i was about halfway through my first viewing before i stopped laughing at the video and realized the song was awesome ;(
10:39 jcpham that one clipboard, that one.
10:39 nubbins` ooo, sign in to confirm my age!
10:39 jcpham mmmmhmmmmm
10:40 nubbins` AAAAAH
10:40 nubbins` that was a dirty trick D;
10:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 24 @ 0.00449999 = 0.108 BTC [-]
10:41 jcpham i thought we were talking about the worst music videos ever
10:41 jcpham i had a suggestion for that topic
10:41 nubbins` i was just sharing a cool song D:
10:41 jcpham yeah me too!
10:41 nubbins` DDDDDDDDDD:
10:43 mircea_popescu Someone stupid will ask me this: "then why doesn't Medicaid just offer a billing code for "need three evaluations, but likely no diagnosis?" Because if Fox News got wind that Obama was paying for black people to get "no diagnosis" they'd blow up an abortion clinic. Paying for "temper tantrums" is just the right amount of enraging, TV and internet enraging, no violence will occur. "Isn't this why we need universal he
10:43 mircea_popescu althcare?" Well, lieutenant, pronounced like I'm a British naval commander, if we had a system of healthcare in which doctors were paid the exact same regardless of diagnosis or severity, then there'd be little attention paid to "correct" diagnosis, all of our epidemiological data would be totally invalid, and the number one drug in America would be Xanax. "Wait, isn't that the situation now?" Huh, nailed it.
10:45 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: more tlp ?
10:45 mircea_popescu yes
10:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1950 @ 0.00082967 = 1.6179 BTC [-]
10:48 mircea_popescu http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/03/doomsday-cult-of-bitcoin.html
10:48 ozbot The Doomsday Cult of Bitcoin -- Daily Intelligencer
10:49 mircea_popescu check out this derp
10:49 Apocalyptic my derp counter has overflown with Hearn today, i'll pass
10:50 mircea_popescu "Partly this is because lawmakers and regulators, spooked by early hype and the Mt. Gox disaster, are never going to afford Bitcoin services the kind of autonomy they'd need in order to flourish. Partly it's because there are conceptual problems with the Bitcoin architecture itself. And partly it's because Bitcoin's anarchic roots are too fringe to draw in the masses. In the mind of the average American, the currency i
10:50 mircea_popescu s now synonymous with theft, drugs, and techno-wizardry. These impressions do not a global currency make."
10:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00082792 = 5.7954 BTC [-] {2}
10:50 mircea_popescu for the record, dear regulators : it comes out of your skin, either way.
10:50 mircea_popescu make it pleasant on yourself or not, lube up or not, whatever suits
10:50 mircea_popescu but the cock is going in.
10:51 nubbins` techno-wizardry
10:51 mircea_popescu imagine, you know ?
10:51 nubbins` http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/technowizard.bmp
10:51 mircea_popescu i mean this is total libertard school of denial. it just so happens that theft, drugs and techno-wizardry is the EXACT recipe of mainstream worship
10:51 nubbins` that's about what i had in mind
10:52 mircea_popescu this guy is basically saying that bitcoin is a distilate of all rappers, all wall street and all silicon valley
10:52 mircea_popescu and then pretending like this is a bad thing.
10:55 mircea_popescu anyway, http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6vh58LPXM1ru15g3o1_1280.jpg
10:57 Mats_cd03 r3wt, i would recommend reading several books about secure coding and learn how to use an auditing tool like burp
10:57 r3wt i decided i'd just hire a professional and try to learn from whatever example he sets
10:58 nubbins` lel i can hear pascale humming that jan terri song from downstairs
10:58 Mats_cd03 going from php to lua is an odd choice and doesnt inspire anyone with confidence in your ability to secure their funds
10:59 Mats_cd03 security requires design and architecture, so maybe you should read books instead of writing code at this stage
11:00 asciilifeform Mats_cd03, r3wt: to learn 'secure code', spend a few years as a lowly 0day hunter
11:00 Mats_cd03 i wouldnt recommend that
11:01 r3wt i am taking myself out of the equation for good of the project
11:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00449999 = 0.45 BTC [-] {3}
11:01 Mats_cd03 that journey is unforgiving and uneducational if youre not clever or connected to people better than you at it
11:02 asciilifeform Mats_cd03: how to find if you're clever without trying
11:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00574943 = 0.5749 BTC [+] {2}
11:05 Mats_cd03 reading CVE reports, studying 0days and proofs of concept, crackmes, compiler books, r/reverseengineering
11:06 Apocalyptic I used to do a lot of crackmes back in the days
11:06 asciilifeform Mats_cd03: studying classic examples only takes you so far
11:06 asciilifeform doesn't teach the process of how they come to exist
11:06 Apocalyptic do as in solving and creating the challenges
11:06 Mats_cd03 thats what the foundational books are for
11:07 Mats_cd03 i advise building a serious knowledge base in one subset of sec before getting into anything else
11:08 r3wt thanks for the advice Mats_cd03
11:09 deadweasel what's everyone's take on the folks at ##security?
11:09 Mats_cd03 dumb
11:10 asciilifeform can't say, never saw.
11:10 Mats_cd03 i lurk there and i rarely see any good conversation
11:10 r3wt bullshitters
11:12 wao-ender v0v https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/
11:12 deadweasel i agree on all counts, but it's not to say you can't comb the logs for some direction.
11:12 nubbins` ;;ticker --market all
11:12 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 662.37, vol: 17860.37014311 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 639.899, vol: 16064.3695 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 661.4999, vol: 14587.05392498 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 674.0, vol: 46.86848963 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 671.0, vol: 10.01218267 | Volume-weighted last average: 654.689264159
11:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00082989 = 6.8051 BTC [+] {2}
11:12 deadweasel then again, i'm not 'savvy'
11:15 nubbins` savvy and sapient share a root
11:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 170 @ 0.004401 = 0.7482 BTC [-] {4}
11:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14481 @ 0.00082817 = 11.9927 BTC [-] {3}
11:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 52 @ 0.00440011 = 0.2288 BTC [-] {4}
11:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 9 @ 0.13311598 = 1.198 BTC [-]
11:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 74 @ 0.00439891 = 0.3255 BTC [-] {2}
11:25 mircea_popescu Mircea Popescu So has the #ImpotentAlliance invaded the Ukraine Soviet Republic yet or we still talkin' ?
11:25 mircea_popescu Bit Power @Mircea_Popescu Still talkin' -- Russia threatens to confiscate U.S. assets....
11:25 mircea_popescu Mircea Popescu Pity the US wasn't keeping it all in #Bitcoin.
11:27 mircea_popescu also, i'm with Mats_cd03. asciilifeform's ideas are tailored for the 1%. nttawwt, but kind-of dangerous if you're not in.
11:27 Mats_cd03 im all for the beauty of discovery, hacking, and all that
11:28 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i read some old posts this morning. you are using 'crystal space' - written by the sadly famous taaki ? this does not bother you ?
11:28 mircea_popescu asciilifeform in the same sense using bitcoin "written" by the sadly famous taaki doesn't bother me.
11:29 Apocalyptic "<QuantumQrack> No, I'm saying the true leaders have massive power. But in a cryptocurrcency wold....the mass has the power."
11:29 Mats_cd03 many people need structured learning to progress further
11:29 asciilifeform i guess i'm just terrible at measuring which miscreants are dumb enough to be harmless
11:29 mircea_popescu adding to that : generally at the fruit stand, the peaches which have all the bugs swarming in are the best.
11:30 asciilifeform this also works at the turd stand
11:30 mircea_popescu Apocalyptic so let the mass think it has power, and then get indignant whenever mpoe-pr shows up.
11:30 Apocalyptic sounds like a plan
11:30 mircea_popescu asciilifeform true, true
11:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.07260022 = 0.726 BTC [-] {8}
11:31 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: re: 1% & comsec - one needn't be a historic champion to learn basic things
11:31 asciilifeform i keep trying to wake people up to this fact
11:31 mircea_popescu yeah, they would.
11:31 asciilifeform usually to no avail
11:32 mircea_popescu that's the thing. basic things are only accessible to the very very elite.
11:32 mircea_popescu for instance, tell me what is a number ?
11:32 * asciilifeform wakes up herr peano's zombie
11:32 mircea_popescu compare basic and lisp. there is NOTHING basic about any one basic instruction
11:33 mircea_popescu they're all complex porrige of many things.
11:33 mircea_popescu meanwhile, explain something truely basic, like say lambda, to the basic crowd.
11:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.57654522 BTC [-]
11:34 asciilifeform any child who played 'mad libs' (or whatever it's called on the other side of the atlantic today) can understand 'lambda'
11:34 mircea_popescu but thats quite besides the point
11:35 Mats_cd03 http://shkspr.mobi/blog/2014/03/2000-nhs-security-vulnerabilities-disclosed/
11:35 mircea_popescu because most children' maturation requires they become socially inserted
11:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 75 @ 0.00449953 = 0.3375 BTC [+]
11:35 Mats_cd03 lol wordpress
11:35 mircea_popescu which requires them acquire proficiency in a number of porriges
11:35 mircea_popescu by the time which is done... well... good luck.
11:36 mircea_popescu "These flaws were discovered passively using the information which was returned by the web server following a normal request. I have not exploited any of the holes found."
11:36 mircea_popescu how you know the author lives in a fascist state.
11:36 Apocalyptic .d
11:36 ozbot 3.816 billion | Next Diff in 1245 blocks | Estimated Change: 3.7517% in 8d 7h 16m 20s
11:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 26 @ 0.00449301 = 0.1168 BTC [-] {2}
11:39 asciilifeform sometimes simple crap is actually... simple
11:39 asciilifeform what can be more straightforward than 'SKI combinator' calculus ?
11:42 asciilifeform or here's a fun variation on the theme:
11:42 asciilifeform http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iota_and_Jot
11:42 ozbot Iota and Jot - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
11:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 75 @ 0.00449879 = 0.3374 BTC [+] {4}
11:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4829 @ 0.00082587 = 3.9881 BTC [-]
11:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07698379 = 0.3849 BTC [+] {2}
11:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 7 @ 0.08960102 = 0.6272 BTC [-] {2}
11:44 ThickAsThieves winklesvii to the moon! http://winklevosscapital.com/posts/78649481042
11:48 Apocalyptic altcoin is going to da moon too I heard
11:50 benkay r3wt: read this for some perspective on your choices: http://www.michaelbromley.co.uk/blog/65/confessions-of-an-intermediate-programmer
11:50 Apocalyptic benkay, he left
11:50 benkay ;;later tell r3wt: read this for some perspective on your choices: http://www.michaelbromley.co.uk/blog/65/confessions-of-an-intermediate-programmer
11:50 gribble The operation succeeded.
11:51 benkay thanks, Apocalyptic
11:52 asciilifeform http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2014/03/goxcoin/
11:52 ozbot Implosion of Bitcoin Exchange Spawns Mutant Digital Currency | Wired Enterprise | Wired.com
11:52 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-02-2014#495815
11:52 ozbot #bitcoin-assets log
11:52 asciilifeform what have i done
11:54 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves yeah they got bailed in
11:55 mircea_popescu asciilifeform see ? the real nsa is always listening.
11:55 mircea_popescu this is an ancient greek idea. careful what you say for the gods may be short of inspiration
11:55 * asciilifeform bows in respect to my happy invisible friends
11:55 ThickAsThieves "Using a technology called Mastercoin, the Goxcoin people would mint a brand new digital currency"
11:55 ThickAsThieves The derp compounds
11:56 chetty UN ENVOY KIDNAPPED IN SIMFEROPOL, IFX CITES UKRAINE FOREIGN MIN
11:57 asciilifeform chetty: wake me up for the beheading vid.
11:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.13311598 BTC [-]
11:58 mircea_popescu mastercoin is a technology ?
11:58 mircea_popescu chetty obviously. they had to be pretty fucking stupid to not realise that "independent" military has no problem doing it.
11:58 chetty will do asciilifeform, probably a couple days, must draw out the drama
11:58 mircea_popescu but no, cheeky un, "we are bureaucrats so we matter"
11:59 mircea_popescu asciilifeform they ain't beheading them, just keeping them on ice for a few weeks.
11:59 mircea_popescu "ty for having improved our negotiation position"
11:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.40070057 BTC to 3`643 shares, 65899 satoshi per share
12:00 asciilifeform damn, there was, going 'hedsoff.com'...
12:00 asciilifeform * there i was
12:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18476 @ 0.00082909 = 15.3183 BTC [+] {2}
12:03 deadweasel SomeSubjectiveSomeObjective . 3 hours ago
12:03 deadweasel I endorse this, and I've already started development on Goxcoincoin, set to go live when Goxcoin is hacked into bankruptcy. Goxcoincoin will allow people to buy interests in Goxcoin assets.
12:03 deadweasel lol
12:04 mircea_popescu deadweasel tell him it's supposed to be goxgoxcoin
12:04 mircea_popescu not goxcoincoin
12:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0425 = 0.2125 BTC [-]
12:04 ThickAsThieves mastergoxcoin?
12:05 chetty eeww just the name makes me queasy
12:05 mircea_popescu aurogoxmasternextripple
12:05 mircea_popescu should be good enough
12:06 ThickAsThieves areolanipples
12:08 ThickAsThieves i'm having a Java install feedback loop :(
12:08 chetty Three third-grade students at a Sonora elementary school were busted for smoking pot in the school’s bathroom last week.
12:08 chetty you touch Java?
12:09 ThickAsThieves only for one thing
12:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00083204 = 9.8181 BTC [+] {4}
12:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59 BTC [+]
12:09 ThickAsThieves which is now telling me i need to update, after every update
12:10 mircea_popescu update the updater
12:10 ThickAsThieves don't have enough updateupdatecoins
12:11 benkay http://bitbet.us/bet/621/any-altcoin-will-surpass-litecoin-in-market-capitalization/#c2561
12:11 ozbot BitBet - Any altcoin will surpass Litecoin in market capitalization
12:13 mircea_popescu lol
12:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3072 @ 0.00082509 = 2.5347 BTC [-]
12:13 benkay poor mods
12:13 benkay poor -pr
12:14 mike_c so now it depends on definition of "ends up", cuz aurora is tanking.
12:14 benkay nah it resolved
12:14 mike_c ah
12:14 benkay mp caved on the coin v scam situation
12:15 benkay hey kakobrekla mircea_popescu when do we see costs of mods in bitbet statements?
12:15 mike_c it's tough being judge & jury. not a job I envy.
12:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.0890005 = 0.356 BTC [-] {2}
12:21 mircea_popescu benkay prolly never.
12:22 benkay mircea_popescu why is that?
12:22 mircea_popescu mike_c http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-03-2014#547210
12:22 mircea_popescu benkay roughly for the same reason tyhe cost of mp as ceo doesn't show in s.mpoe's books
12:23 ThickAsThieves Since Feb 28, 2013 until Feb 26, 2014, ASICMiner has paid out over the past year:
12:23 ThickAsThieves Total: 220,909.62 BTC
12:23 ThickAsThieves Per Share: 0.6135/Share
12:23 ThickAsThieves Average Weekly Payout: 0.0118/Share
12:23 BingoBoingo So since Arscoin is Webwallet only... How long until CondeNast goes Inputs.io? http://arstechnica.com/business/2014/03/digging-for-cryptocurrency-the-newbies-guide-to-mining-altcoins/
12:24 benkay mircea_popescu the mods are paid in shares, then? the mods are you and kakobrekla then?
12:24 ThickAsThieves Today is also my official first day not being tied to AM in any way anymore
12:24 * ThickAsThieves does a little dance.
12:25 mircea_popescu benkay nenver underestimate the advantage of a harem of slaves.
12:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00449765 = 0.2249 BTC [-]
12:26 nubbins` tat, are congratulations appropriate?
12:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 46 @ 0.0055 = 0.253 BTC
12:27 mircea_popescu well it's not bad, overal it paid in dividends way more than it originally cost
12:27 mircea_popescu so it's one of the few happy stories in btcland
12:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6750 @ 0.00083055 = 5.6062 BTC [+]
12:28 ThickAsThieves too bad btcland had to drive it up to 5.5btc
12:29 mircea_popescu ya well
12:29 mircea_popescu btcland wanted to show mp oneup
12:29 mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/ << check out latest bets
12:29 mircea_popescu NO NO NO NO NO
12:30 mircea_popescu bitbet denial
12:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.09099999 = 0.182 BTC [+] {2}
12:31 ThickAsThieves hehe mostly me
12:31 ThickAsThieves letting it ride
12:32 mircea_popescu On October 26, 2005, [drug rep] Mr. Caronia went to Dr. Charno's office. He had never met Dr. Charno before, nor had any previous contact with him but for the phone calls from Dr. Charno seeking a promotional speech. During the meeting, Dr. Charno repeatedly asked Mr. Caronia off-label questions and asked to meet Dr. Gleason [a speaker for the company.]
12:32 mircea_popescu Dr. Gleason eventually came, and, in the presence of Caronia, had a discussion with Dr. Charno about off-label uses for Xyrem (insomnia, restless legs, etc). Is Caronia responsible? Should he have stopped Gleason? The court said yes, and convicted him.
12:32 mircea_popescu The trick was, Dr. Charno was actually a government informant. That's odd. And I have never heard of a doctor who requested a promotional speech. He cold called a rep he had never met and asked to meet him to discuss a drug he had never prescribed?
12:33 mircea_popescu The third witness presented by the United States Government was the confidential informant, Dr. Steven Charno. After pleading guilty to medical insurance fraud stemming from his criminal act of filing fraudulent medical insurance bills in the amount of $821,000.00, Dr. Charno cooperated with the United States Government against Alfred Caronia.
12:33 mircea_popescu I thought I was reading the script for a bad cop movie. Did the government use a plea agreement to force Charno to help the government capture drug reps that he had never even met?
12:33 mircea_popescu check that shit out lmao
12:34 mircea_popescu i suppose that's the future use of all the two bit scammers i nthe history of bitcoin.
12:34 mircea_popescu so i guess... don't deal with known scammers.
12:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10597 @ 0.00083248 = 8.8218 BTC [+]
12:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2778 @ 0.00083055 = 2.3073 BTC [-]
12:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.091 = 0.273 BTC [+]
12:39 ThickAsThieves http://www.thestreet.com/story/12509084/1/overstock-ceo-expects-bitcoin-derivatives.html
12:39 ozbot Overstock CEO Expects Bitcoin Derivatives - TheStreet
12:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.00566001 = 0.1132 BTC [-]
12:41 lalusch Would anyone be so kind and give me a link to information on the Scharmbeck scam? lost track of this whole thing about a month ago
12:43 mircea_popescu lalusch which one is that ?
12:44 chetty haha so many scams. so little time
12:44 lalusch sbfs on cryptostocks?
12:44 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves lol derp.
12:45 mircea_popescu lalusch possibly nobody here keeping track of individual cryptostocks scams
12:45 mircea_popescu the entire thing just melds into one big scam
12:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10350 @ 0.00082494 = 8.5381 BTC [-] {2}
12:45 lalusch yes, thats what i'm feeling too
12:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07699997 = 0.154 BTC [+]
12:46 lalusch anyone got information on when CBTC will pay dividends for february
12:47 mike_c ;;last seen kakobrekla
12:47 gribble (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; (1 more message)
12:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8322 @ 0.00082975 = 6.9052 BTC [+]
12:47 mircea_popescu lalusch no. they do not publish either reports or any sort of sensible anything.
12:47 mike_c ;;seen kakobrekla
12:47 gribble kakobrekla was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 13 hours, 26 minutes, and 1 second ago: <kakobrekla> mhm
12:48 lalusch :(
12:48 mircea_popescu all they do is crap like https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=465334.msg5224850#msg5224850
12:48 lalusch but actually this makes them even more credible for me
12:48 Apocalyptic huh how so ?
12:50 deadweasel i can't see how, pls explain, lalusch.
12:51 lalusch giving the exact dat of dividend payment could make the stocks price crash 2 minutes after div payment as just 1 bigger player has to sell then, on such a low volume
12:51 lalusch get what i mean?
12:51 lalusch sry for english
12:51 mike_c no reason for it to "crash" more than the dividend payment.
12:52 ThickAsThieves lol
12:52 ThickAsThieves dividends mean everything!
12:54 ThickAsThieves Beth Jacob, who has served as Target's chief information officer and executive vice president of technology services since 2008, is vacating both positions and departing the company immediately. According to CEO Gregg Steinhafel, the retailer has already launched a search for an interim CIO to help steer Target through a major security overhaul.
12:54 lalusch yea they do
12:54 ThickAsThieves Target info/sec is headless!
12:54 lalusch nobody is going long term in cryptobiz
12:54 deadweasel lalusch: how do you mean their bitcointalk post makes them more credible?
12:54 mircea_popescu lalusch that's nonsense, really.
12:55 mike_c guy i know who works in it security consulting says he is drowning in work b/c of target.
12:55 ThickAsThieves well that's forumite logic
12:55 mircea_popescu all mpex companies have their div dates announced as per contract, in the past two years there has been exactly 0 of the stuff you talk about.
12:55 ThickAsThieves more posts, more trust
12:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 101 @ 0.0044003 = 0.4444 BTC [-] {3}
12:55 Apocalyptic ^
12:55 ThickAsThieves the more numbers included in posts, more trust
12:56 lalusch deadweasel, must have gotten me wrong. I did not mean the bitcointalk thread
12:56 ThickAsThieves (numbers do not have to represent reality, or be good)
12:56 lalusch i meant the fact that they dont announce the exact date for dividend payment
12:56 mircea_popescu methinks ThickAsThieves is a little jaded these days
12:56 chetty aren't 'regular' stocks div dates legally required to be published?
12:56 mircea_popescu lalusch yeah but still there should be a "no later than 5th of the month" or something
12:56 ThickAsThieves well look where i spend my time!
12:56 deadweasel ^
12:57 deadweasel it can't be helped
12:57 lalusch i totally agree
12:57 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves i hear this is how people end up with eating disorders
12:57 ThickAsThieves i could stand to lose a few
12:57 mircea_popescu mike_c didn't they recently lose a db ?
12:58 mike_c just lost a little personal data on 110 million customers.
12:58 mike_c basically everyone in the US got issued new credit cards after that one.
12:59 mircea_popescu http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2012/12/and_now_the_pharma_pendulum_sw.html
12:59 ozbot The Last Psychiatrist: Expendable; Or, And Now The Pharma Pendulum Swings Back The Other Way
12:59 mircea_popescu this is a fucking epic article.
12:59 mircea_popescu wanna understand why the finance people keep falling out of windows ?
12:59 mircea_popescu there's the blueprint.
13:00 mircea_popescu mike_c finding a way to paper over the fact that they STILL do not wish to use security is going to take some effort.
13:00 mike_c just hire a new CIO! chopping a couple heads fixes everything.
13:01 asciilifeform they STILL do not wish to use security << re: Target ?
13:01 chetty more good reasons to avoid plastic fiats
13:01 asciilifeform there is no little to no incentive in the u.s. for card issuers (and money lenders in general) to secure anything.
13:02 nubbins` lel, so we outsourced some printing to this company in california. 14% of the order is missing when it arrives -- no explanation, no "we'll get the rest sent out soon", just numbers changed with a pen on the packing slip. i emailed company, they say "oh sorry -- we'll get the rest to you by march 24"
13:02 asciilifeform 'identity theft' is only possible because they wish it to be.
13:02 nubbins` almost a month late
13:02 nubbins` when i inquired about a partial refund, they offer me $20
13:02 mircea_popescu asciilifeform yes
13:02 nubbins` not the $113.50 that the missing tanks cost
13:02 nubbins` a fucking jackson.
13:02 mircea_popescu nubbins` so sue.
13:03 asciilifeform quite a few people don't seem to understand the implications
13:03 nubbins` i'm giving them one more chance before i issue a chargeback
13:03 asciilifeform it isn't just the fact that money lenders like that, though i refuse to borrow a million, some other fellow can swipe my driver's license and do it for me
13:04 jcpham woohoo chargeback!. talk with your monies
13:04 asciilifeform it's also the fact that the alternative is a mercilessly-cryptographic concept of identity
13:04 asciilifeform as depicted in 'Shall Be Delivered'
13:04 nubbins` already talking with my voice, too -- just blasted them on one of the bigger t-shirt printing forums
13:04 asciilifeform where if someone has your key, / they are now legally you /
13:04 nubbins` generally fulfillment companies have a forum presence, will be interesting to see if they respond there
13:05 deadweasel nubbins`: after you chargeback, cancel the card and link them to your posts.
13:07 asciilifeform * musical interlude * - 2047: mr. barack hussein IV was six foot tall at the time of his coronation, but lost his key - inscribed on a napkin - and unfortunately / bifurcated / two years later. he is now five foot eight, half-chinese, with a red beard.'
13:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6634 @ 0.00083227 = 5.5213 BTC [+] {2}
13:08 asciilifeform 'mandatory gladiatorial combat following bifurcation was introduced in .... due to ...'
13:09 asciilifeform 'there were five contending forks; two boys clutching old-fashioned xerox copies and ...'
13:09 asciilifeform * end of musical interlude *
13:10 nubbins` <asciilifeform> there is no little to no incentive in the u.s. for card issuers (and money lenders in general) to secure anything. <<< nod
13:10 BingoBoingo nubbins`: Are they in the WoT?
13:10 nubbins` no reason why my credit card number can't be a "master key" and i just generate one-time-use cc numbers for purchases
13:10 nubbins` other than the fact that the current system favours the issuers
13:10 asciilifeform nubbins`: you know the reason
13:11 asciilifeform nubbins`: if you refuse to buy a Boeing, some other fellow gets to, in your name
13:11 nubbins` cost of fraud detection / prevention > cost of chargebacks
13:11 asciilifeform then go and prove that you didn't
13:11 nubbins` BingoBoingo: unfortunately, i'm the only t-shirt provider in the wot
13:12 mircea_popescu asciilifeform chinese ppl can't have red beards.
13:12 asciilifeform ahahaha china lost its national key
13:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8373 @ 0.00082947 = 6.9452 BTC [-] {2}
13:12 asciilifeform and an irish kid found it
13:12 mircea_popescu lmao
13:13 mircea_popescu nubbins` what, and s.nsa is a trillion dollar company ?
13:13 mircea_popescu and then obama has to ask mp's permission on irc to do shit ?
13:13 mircea_popescu IMPOSSIBRU
13:13 * nubbins` scrolls back in search of the bit he missed
13:14 BingoBoingo Fuck, I run a billion dollar ATC hedge fund for a private client
13:14 asciilifeform zimbabwe dollars?
13:14 BingoBoingo Does the dollars origin really matter?
13:14 asciilifeform http://www.amazon.com/Zimbabwe-Trillion-Dollar-Bank-Uncirculated/dp/B002X1970I
13:14 ozbot Amazon.com: Zimbabwe 100 Trillion Dollar Bank Note 2008 Uncirculated: Everything Else
13:14 mircea_popescu the other zimbabwe
13:16 artifexd ;;rate BingoBoingo 1 Did what he said he was going to do
13:16 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user BingoBoingo has been recorded.
13:18 asciilifeform for the aficionados: http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2014/03/chronology-of-ukrainian-coup.html
13:26 mircea_popescu "Welcome to the forum. MPOE is our most accomplished scumbag, a rumored child pornographer and a confirmed idiot. His business model is simple-minded: talk shit about everyone else to avoid scrutiny. Because he has no dignity or good breeding, he basically sells stock in himself, a sadistic, sexually confused Romanian Mafia reject. Anything he says can be disregarded, you won't miss anything valuable."
13:27 mircea_popescu check that shit out yo!
13:27 asciilifeform '... the judge then ruled that the death of a keyholder at the hands of his fork is to be considered 'assisted suicide.' when he finished belting out the last verse of Modified-Karatsuba Anthem, his secretary drew her Nagant... '
13:27 asciilifeform (NYT, 2031)
13:29 deadweasel mircea_popescu: from whence came that virtiol?
13:29 deadweasel vitriol*
13:29 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=498002.msg5529878#msg5529878
13:29 ozbot Calling out the Bitcoin Foundation Scam.
13:30 mircea_popescu i have no idea, but it sounds like some pirate investment banker.
13:31 jcpham if they really really knew gox was a shitshow 6 months ago...probably should've told someone
13:31 deadweasel wow, that's ripe
13:31 deadweasel thx
13:31 BingoBoingo Probably have to be a pirate investment banker to remember all of the slurs
13:32 jcpham but i didn't bother going to the forum
13:32 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo that was my logic.
13:32 asciilifeform '... courtroom recording showed that the last verse of the multiplicand was, as witnesses had claimed, sung in unison by the beautiful young fork.'
13:32 benkay asciilifeform have you been reading Pynchon lately or something?
13:33 asciilifeform benkay: nope.
13:33 asciilifeform just read 'shall be delivered' a year or so ago
13:33 asciilifeform and now had occasion to remember.
13:33 benkay he has good musical interludes.
13:33 benkay you're approaching his degree of surreality in the musical numbers
13:33 asciilifeform http://thewhet.net/2012/shall-be-delivered/
13:34 ozbot Shall be Delivered | The Whet
13:34 benkay oh, i'm familiar.
13:34 benkay have you read Gravity's Rainbow?
13:34 asciilifeform nope.
13:34 asciilifeform tried to once, and barfed
13:34 benkay snob
13:34 asciilifeform i even own a little book on SNOBOL. so clearly.
13:35 mircea_popescu hahaha
13:37 r3wt ;;bcauth
13:37 gribble (bcauth <nick>) -- Initiate authentication for user <nick>. You must have registered with the bot with a bitcoin address for this to work. You will be given a random passphrase to sign with your address, and submit to the bot with the 'bcverify' command. Your passphrase will expire within 10 minutes.
13:37 r3wt ;;bcauth r3wt
13:37 gribble Request successful for user r3wt, hostmask r3wt!add82c3d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.216.44.61. Your challenge string is: freenode:#bitcoin-otc:ea53a1cdfc650f1dad400d92a3cea88d4a1ac8960d422ac09a915b8c
13:37 asciilifeform benkay: nothing surrealist or otherwise inaccessible sans-hallucinogens about the snippet above
13:37 asciilifeform comparison with pynchon et al is unwarranted
13:38 asciilifeform entirely logical premise, just like 'Delivered'
13:39 benkay just the musical number.
13:40 asciilifeform benkay: what, Modified Karatsuba Anthem?
13:40 asciilifeform merely a way to multiply bignums using your 'language cortex', every child knows it
13:40 asciilifeform (starting 2017, aha)
13:40 nubbins` haven't read any pynchon
13:41 nubbins` a friend did his thesis on the crying of lot 49
13:41 asciilifeform me neither
13:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 123 @ 0.00445344 = 0.5478 BTC [-] {4}
13:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 460 @ 0.00436999 = 2.0102 BTC [-] {3}
13:43 asciilifeform see, people laugh, but i intend to make that universe happen.
13:44 asciilifeform lessee who laughs then
13:45 asciilifeform wonder what the author of 'delivered' would answer to that.
13:46 nubbins` http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1zm1v5/today_i_logged_onto_my_computer_and_found_none_of/
13:46 ozbot Today I logged onto my computer and found none of my bitcoins were stolen. : Bitcoin
13:46 BingoBoingo "Much like Samson, asciilifeform had become the fork of the entire United States Supreme Court. Being of advanced age the Justices were no match for asciilifeform as he defeated each in success in the Singles combat described in the protocol for fork resolution."
13:46 nubbins` lel, title says it all
13:49 BingoBoingo The supreme court accepted no cases the following term after the court's decision that paper on ink is not an adequate signature.
13:50 mircea_popescu not bad
13:51 mircea_popescu http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lyzr4whCAN1r9cf4co1_1280.jpg
13:51 mircea_popescu new and improved scotus, post stan
13:51 mircea_popescu (shirt means assent, no shirt dissent)
13:51 benkay "What anointed property is bestowed upon “dollars” which, being absent from bitcoins, precludes their usefulness? If you would not even eat your supper without the government first giving you its blessing, then I feel sad for you, for you are truly under a dismal spell and, and suffer a strange kind of man-in-the-sky worship."
13:52 benkay http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoins-biggest-challenge-educational-technical/
13:52 asciilifeform ahaha
13:52 BingoBoingo Briefs and documents to be filed in plaintext or AMS TeX
13:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6366 @ 0.0008311 = 5.2908 BTC [+]
13:55 nubbins` http://journals.lww.com/jonmd/Abstract/publishahead/Safety_and_Efficacy_of_Lysergic_Acid.99925.aspx
13:55 ozbot Safety and Efficacy of Lysergic Acid Diethylamide-Assisted P... : The Journal of Nervous and Ment
13:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20500 @ 0.00083004 = 17.0158 BTC [-] {3}
13:55 nubbins` first controlled study of lsd in what, 40 years?
13:55 nubbins` s/of/involving
13:56 mircea_popescu i dunno, iconducted a few
13:56 mircea_popescu i guess 1st published
13:56 BingoBoingo State courts in Texas, Montana, and California have decisions vacated after cheap imitation Cardonos were issued to justices and their keys were solved. The resolution of their forks is ongoing.
13:57 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: cardanos? you clearly didn't read the intro carefully.
13:57 nubbins` heh
13:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1036 @ 0.00082871 = 0.8585 BTC [-]
13:57 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: what next, arithmometers?
13:57 nubbins` mircea_popescu: but were they controlled?!
13:57 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Imitations, I.E they went to classical NSA approved competitor for device with a pretense of similar function
13:58 mircea_popescu nubbins` im a control freak.
13:58 nubbins` why did i even ask ;D
13:59 BingoBoingo And what's really wrong with arithmometers? Workings are easy to verify.
13:59 asciilifeform not as good as the 'anthem', where if one bit of result is off, it no longer rhymes.
14:00 BingoBoingo Bugs in an arithmometers are correctable with Fresh brass embouches and a bastard file
14:00 asciilifeform (if i could sing it to you, this would be an engineering project rather than a flight of imagination.)
14:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [MS] 40 @ 0.00298018 = 0.1192 BTC [+]
14:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [MS] 100 @ 0.00298018 = 0.298 BTC [+]
14:11 BingoBoingo In other news Idiot aligns with Idiots, suprised when Idiot gets burned by fellow idiots http://two-bit-idiot.tumblr.com/post/78609330103/the-btc-foundations-power-struggle
14:15 mircea_popescu lawl.
14:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00082647 = 6.9423 BTC [-] {3}
14:19 BingoBoingo His reponse of aligning himself with still bigger idiots suggests further lulz ahead.
14:22 benkay i had a lot of fun saying 'scam' at the local bitcoin enthusiast part last night
14:22 benkay "ethereum?" "scam!" "mastercoin?" "scam!" "let me guess - bitcoin foundation?" "SCAM!"
14:23 mircea_popescu lol
14:23 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo the lulzy part is where he presents vouchings from... none other than... our friendly radiologist-in-training, one brian goss
14:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 21 @ 0.0425 = 0.8925 BTC [-] {2}
14:24 BingoBoingo MyBitcoin 2.0
14:25 BingoBoingo It is one thing to leak the Petagon papers. It is a road further though to leak the Pentagon papers and run for President on the credentials of having leaked the Pentagon papers.
14:26 BingoBoingo This socialwebtwatter BBQ is really letting people lie far to much to themselves about their place.
14:27 mircea_popescu word.
14:27 mircea_popescu yet if you were to poll the "community", snowden'd be the most likely to succeed as chief of the USSS
14:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07689997 = 0.1538 BTC [-]
14:30 ThickAsThieves oh geez, wsj bit http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/03/05/auroracoin-already-second-biggest-virtual-currency-and-its-not-even-out-yet
14:31 ThickAsThieves they promote coinmarketcap the same day bitbet blacklists it
14:31 ThickAsThieves cmon now "(This ranking excludes the digital currency Ripple, whose market cap of $1.6 billion does not make for a fair comparison. Most ripple coins are retained by the issuing entity under a centrally managed model that’s very different from the decentralized networks employed by other alt.coins.)"
14:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.07005308 = 0.2802 BTC [-]
14:32 ThickAsThieves like auroracoin?!
14:32 benkay hysteresis
14:32 benkay mainstream catches up to scams just as scamwatch nukes 'em
14:32 BingoBoingo I imagine BitBet is going to have to blacklist the WSJ as a source nao
14:33 jcpham ripple!
14:33 ThickAsThieves "Its creator, who goes under the pseudonym of Baldur Friggjar Odinsson,"
14:33 mircea_popescu benkay hysteresis indeed
14:33 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo no it already was
14:34 ThickAsThieves As for the pseudonym – a tactic reminiscent of that of Bitcoin’s mysterious, unidentified creator, Satoshi Nakamoto, auroracoin’s founder says, “The agents of the state will attack anyone challenging their power, so I chose a name from Norse mythology to shield myself from such attacks.”
14:34 ThickAsThieves lol
14:34 asciilifeform he'll be plugged with a mistletoe arrow ?
14:36 benkay i'll play loki
14:36 * benkay hucks dart
14:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10013 @ 0.00082722 = 8.283 BTC [+]
14:39 asciilifeform aahaaa http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/sat-to-drop-essay-requirement-and-return-to-top-score-of-1600-in-redesign-of-admission-test/2014/03/05/2aa9eee4-a46a-11e3-8466-d34c451760b9_story.html
14:39 asciilifeform '....college admission test.... a major overhaul intended to open doors to higher education for students who are now shut out.'
14:39 mircea_popescu so it's no longer measuring anything at lal.
14:40 ThickAsThieves "will dwell less on fancy vocabulary" obviously
14:40 ThickAsThieves fancy?
14:40 mircea_popescu so none of that faggoty complex words and whatnot
14:41 ThickAsThieves anything difficult or inconvenient is now fancy
14:42 mircea_popescu shorter word.
14:42 ThickAsThieves fancy jobs for fancy people with fancy cars and fancy coins
14:42 mircea_popescu fancy that!
14:43 nubbins` tickles *my* fancy
14:43 ThickAsThieves and fancy is only in it's infancy
14:44 ThickAsThieves its
14:45 ThickAsThieves http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/05/congressman-calls-to-ban-u-s-dollar-in-response-to-bitcoin-ban/
14:45 ozbot Congressman Calls To Ban U.S. Dollar In Response To Plea For Bitcoin Ban | TechCrunch
14:45 ThickAsThieves yuss
14:46 ThickAsThieves “The clear use of dollar bills for transacting in illegal goods, anonymous transactions, tax fraud, and services or speculative gambling make me wary of their use. Before the United States gets too far behind the curve on this important topic, I urge the regulators to work together, act quickly, and prohibit this dangerous currency from harming hard-working Americans,” said Polis.
14:46 the20year2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TMTgbDAS-c
14:46 ozbot Final Rehab Video for Mill street - YouTube
14:47 the20year2 There's the final rehab video for a property we just got done. Total cost to investors was $62.5k
14:47 ThickAsThieves shouldnt total cost be communicated in bitcoins spent?
14:48 the20year2 Well, otherwise it was about 100btc
14:50 asciilifeform 'Experts say SAT scores have long been strongly correlated to family income, a dynamic the College Board hopes to shake up.'
14:51 mike_c they want to shake up the correlation between higher income and better education?
14:51 mike_c start smacking rich kids in the head on birth?
14:51 kakobrekla mike_c you rang m'lord?
14:51 asciilifeform 'harrison bergeron' (k. vonnegut)
14:52 ThickAsThieves they want to shake it up by maksing that it exists
14:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.13311598 BTC [-]
14:54 ThickAsThieves which if they succeed might just result in the discriminating colleges using more discriminating methods
14:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.08900166 = 0.534 BTC [-] {2}
14:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07005308 = 0.1401 BTC [-]
14:58 kakobrekla http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com < there you have it, props to pankkake .
15:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27066 @ 0.00082595 = 22.3552 BTC [-] {3}
15:00 bitcoinpete nicely done, and howdy
15:01 bitcoinpete and ty kindly for the "subscriptions" mention
15:01 asciilifeform kakobrekla: wait what's the new piece ?
15:02 kakobrekla hum?
15:02 mike_c very cool. love the keyboard shortcuts.
15:02 asciilifeform in the link
15:02 kakobrekla mike_c pankake did it
15:02 kakobrekla asciilifeform last blog post from benkay ?
15:02 mircea_popescu lol polis is cool.
15:03 mircea_popescu mike_c it's unfair for richer people to afford better things. consequently, nobody wants to get rich anymore, and economy stops.
15:03 mircea_popescu whoops, who could have foreseen this problem ><
15:04 mike_c 'correlation found between lambos and higher income. gov't plans to correct this'
15:05 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=289730.msg5527318#msg5527318
15:05 ozbot [IPVO] [Multiple Exchanges] Neo & Bee - LMB Holdings
15:05 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves any merit to all that ?
15:05 asciilifeform mike_c: new product to address this Great Product: TrabamBourghini
15:05 mircea_popescu ahahahaha
15:05 asciilifeform trabant engine, plastic body
15:05 mircea_popescu o god
15:05 asciilifeform *Problem
15:05 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i spilled. trabambourghini is like the best car name ever
15:05 asciilifeform ye heard it here phurst.
15:06 mircea_popescu http://acidcow.com/pics/25481-super-hungry-pig-5-pics.html
15:06 ozbot Pig Eating a Car (5 pics)
15:06 assbot Last 20 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1691452/plain/)
15:06 kakobrekla !b 20
15:07 asciilifeform Trambo, short.
15:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 43 @ 0.02010767 = 0.8646 BTC [-] {6}
15:07 mircea_popescu so the owner is a trabambourgher ?
15:07 Namworld [15:03] <mircea_popescu> mike_c it's unfair for richer people to afford better things. consequently, nobody wants to get rich anymore, and economy stops.
15:08 Namworld Thank you. Sums it well.
15:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.07699996 = 0.77 BTC [+] {4}
15:09 asciilifeform people seriously misunderstand why trabant was a laugh
15:10 asciilifeform it wasn't simply because it was a plywood jalopy with a grass cutter engine.
15:10 bitcoinpete because you had to wait a decade for one?
15:10 asciilifeform rather, because it was a car for people who can't afford car.
15:10 bitcoinpete like the CarPlay thing
15:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3976 @ 0.00082391 = 3.2759 BTC [-]
15:10 asciilifeform sorta like an automotive altcoin
15:11 Namworld If people are paid as much as they produce, then there's the choice of not doing anything, or wasting effort for no profit. Economy doesn't runs and we return to self-sufficience (where everyone can finally be "paid" as much as they produce, literally.
15:11 mod6 this was posted in -otc: http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/05/congressman-calls-to-ban-u-s-dollar-in-response-to-bitcoin-ban/
15:11 asciilifeform no one bothers to laugh at chinese moto-rickshaw, because it doesn't pretend to be a car
15:12 bitcoinpete probably why the tata nano failed
15:12 ThickAsThieves <mircea_popescu> ThickAsThieves any merit to all that ? /// i'm not sure i even understand what that is. The thread isn't moderated, but maybe someone reported a sock ot something? I had the poster on ignore already fwiw
15:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 54 @ 0.0055 = 0.297 BTC {2}
15:14 mircea_popescu well some drama i have no diea
15:14 ThickAsThieves i think its just socks socking socks
15:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4750 @ 0.00082391 = 3.9136 BTC [-]
15:22 deadweasel hey I heard you like socks, so I put some sock in your sock, on some socks. they're in your laundry basket. derp.
15:22 deadweasel the forums are festering with it
15:22 deadweasel course I only go there when links are dropped here for humor.
15:24 deadweasel ha, just overheard our designer say '
15:24 deadweasel You're preaching to a deaf choir' i don't even....
15:32 benkay ;;lasers
15:32 gribble ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!*
15:37 jurov ;;bc,stats
15:38 gribble Current Blocks: 289085 | Current Difficulty: 3.81572379881463E9 | Next Difficulty At Block: 290303 | Next Difficulty In: 1218 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 17 hours, and 45 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3974059069.89 | Estimated Percent Change: 4.14955
15:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14750 @ 0.00082586 = 12.1814 BTC [+] {3}
15:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 134 @ 0.00555348 = 0.7442 BTC [-] {7}
15:40 ThickAsThieves pretty small change
15:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 916 @ 0.00517851 = 4.7435 BTC [-] {8}
15:41 ThickAsThieves http://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty says 15%
15:41 ThickAsThieves sorry 12%
15:43 mircea_popescu benkay i dunno how much stock i can put in your branson=businessman theory
15:44 mircea_popescu seeing how his main contribution is branson's guide to making a small fortune from air travel
15:44 mircea_popescu ("start with a big one")
15:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 303 @ 0.005 = 1.515 BTC [-] {3}
15:46 bitcoinpete branson seems more to invite other entrepreneurs to start companies and rent the virgin name
15:47 bitcoinpete then break off subsidiaries when they get too big
15:47 bitcoinpete all while he bungee jumps, etc
15:50 benkay i dunno he seems to have stacked some piles of fiat
15:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07699999 = 0.154 BTC [-]
15:51 BingoBoingo So did Madonna and PT Barnum
15:52 benkay yeah huh how did he pile all that up
15:52 BingoBoingo The Circus bsns
15:53 benkay ah well, back to javascript hell
15:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2459 @ 0.00082391 = 2.026 BTC [-]
15:55 bitcoinpete On the recent theme:
15:55 bitcoinpete http://worldpulse.com/campaigns/www/www-women-weave-the-web-campaign-prizes
15:55 ozbot WWW: Women Weave the Web Campaign Prizes and Opportunities | World Pulse
16:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21728 @ 0.00082841 = 17.9997 BTC [+] {3}
16:03 nubbins` on hold with ebay for 25 minutes now
16:03 nubbins` i pity the poor fucker who ends up answering
16:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.13051754 BTC [-]
16:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00082391 = 9.6397 BTC [-]
16:06 mircea_popescu http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6sx6psCfB1ru15g3o1_500.jpg
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16:44 deadweasel mod6: that article is so full of misrepresentations and misunderstandings... there isn't anything there. at all.
16:45 benkay another one of yours, mircea_popescu?
16:45 mircea_popescu na
16:45 deadweasel http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/05/congressman-calls-to-ban-u-s-dollar-in-response-to-bitcoin-ban/
16:45 ozbot Congressman Calls To Ban U.S. Dollar In Response To Plea For Bitcoin Ban | TechCrunch
16:45 deadweasel so lame, hurts to read
16:45 deadweasel i'm physically hurting right now
16:45 mircea_popescu deadweasel this is like the 3rd time today you know
16:45 mod6 sorry. just was like 'heh'
16:45 deadweasel nope
16:48 deadweasel frankly I'm saving the logs for when one of you enterprising fucks puts consolidates and puts them into a book, as a sort of People Guide to the History of Bitcoin.
16:48 deadweasel damn words.
16:49 deadweasel also, apparently, I could use an engrish teacher.
16:51 mircea_popescu it's hopeless, there's like 10-20k pages already
16:51 mircea_popescu 50 fucking volumes for a coupla years ?
16:52 deadweasel no no, highlights, tell it as a story, connected, but with the cruft removed.
16:52 deadweasel like a book of letters, highly edited for cruft
16:52 deadweasel you could sell an elite version with PMs that people donate.
16:53 deadweasel wait no, verification impossibru
16:53 Mats_cd03 you could if you verified with both parties
16:53 mircea_popescu basically this could feed 50-100 english major chicks.
16:54 mircea_popescu i guess you gotta do something with the ones not pretty enough to dance nude in the street.
16:54 Mats_cd03 a book about bitcoin would suck anyway
16:54 mircea_popescu Mats_cd03 sorta like books about the 60s. they sucked balls, but as the people who were actually involved went senile,
16:54 deadweasel everyone deserves a shot, no? plus, she may write the story so well you want to fuck her.
16:55 mircea_popescu the 2nd generation had no idea so it all seemed great to them
16:55 Mats_cd03 dudes in chat rooms talking about cryptography and gettin monitor tans
16:55 mircea_popescu as opposed to what ?
16:55 Mats_cd03 i promise you once the average person sees the word cryptography theyre going to put the book down
16:55 deadweasel considering what the forum consumes, i think it'd be a hit.
16:55 deadweasel fuck, Mats_cd03 i see your point
16:56 mircea_popescu average person ? what the fuck is this, the libertard dystopia ?
16:56 mircea_popescu i never heard anyone rejecting a book idea on the grounds that goats wouldn't read it.
16:56 deadweasel it's all in the editing.
16:56 deadweasel yhou could have a techno savvy version
16:56 deadweasel a laymans version
16:56 deadweasel all edited. laymans version gets different edits
16:56 deadweasel a drama version
16:56 deadweasel a troll version
16:56 deadweasel a shockdoc version
16:56 mircea_popescu a french version...
16:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.08901005 = 0.178 BTC [+] {2}
16:58 CheckDavid Mats_cd03: I won't put the book down but I won't understand much of what's next either
16:58 deadweasel that's IRC for ya
16:59 Mats_cd03 lets face it, most people would have to read a book before reading _that_ book
16:59 mod6 srsly
16:59 deadweasel depends on the editing, but you have a point
16:59 deadweasel introductary version would sell the most copies then.
17:01 Mats_cd03 someone in this channel could write the book
17:01 Mats_cd03 whichever of you has been here the longest and is unemployed
17:02 deadweasel ummm, there might be a few more requirements
17:02 deadweasel mpoe-pr should do it along with all her other womanly duties.
17:03 Mats_cd03 sounds like a shit job
17:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.04299999 = 0.129 BTC [+]
17:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 145 @ 0.00433449 = 0.6285 BTC [-] {8}
17:03 deadweasel lol, affliate program: http://www.idiotsguidetobitcoin.com/
17:03 Mats_cd03 who wants to read forum comments by teenagers for hours as research
17:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2055 @ 0.00421645 = 8.6648 BTC [-] {14}
17:04 deadweasel definitely not this guy: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=183728.0
17:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3358 @ 0.00082903 = 2.7839 BTC [+]
17:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 320 @ 0.0042 = 1.344 BTC [-] {3}
17:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 3832 @ 0.00410031 = 15.7124 BTC [-] {12}
17:06 Mats_cd03 a topic-specific book would definitely be good though
17:07 Mats_cd03 i think the community needs it
17:07 Mats_cd03 something cohesive like "bitcoin personal security for dummies"
17:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2048 @ 0.00401424 = 8.2212 BTC [-] {8}
17:07 deadweasel oh man, this thing is dead to me already. i have the log. fuck it.
17:08 deadweasel no time for bookmaking of anykind.
17:09 Mats_cd03 id write it if making books was a profitable activity
17:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 772 @ 0.00400015 = 3.0881 BTC [-] {7}
17:13 mircea_popescu there is no such thing as security for dummies
17:13 mircea_popescu what's next, dating for the narcisistic and hygiene for the lazy ?
17:13 mike_c BingoBoingo already wrote that.
17:13 mike_c http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/pgpgpg-guide/
17:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 15000 @ 0.004 = 60 BTC [-]
17:13 ozbot PGP/GPG Guide | Bingo Blog
17:14 mike_c print it, bind it, become rich.
17:15 GNULinuxGuy has there been some news about neobee recently or something?
17:15 mircea_popescu notrly.
17:16 asciilifeform a physicist (forget which) who took to writing 'general interest' books, was told by his publisher 'every equation you throw in will cut sales in half'
17:16 asciilifeform (might've been penrose, now that i think about it)
17:16 GNULinuxGuy buy op? ;)
17:16 mircea_popescu unless you count stuff like http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-03-2014#539868
17:16 mircea_popescu asciilifeform so the first 1-200 are the hardest then
17:17 mircea_popescu after that's smooth sailin'.
17:17 asciilifeform ahaha
17:18 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: If the text in question was http://www.roadsolutions.ox.ac.uk/ I have it sitting on a shelf
17:18 asciilifeform yeah might've been that one
17:21 BingoBoingo It kept an adequate number of equations for a book with chapter titles like "Manifolds of n dimensions"
17:22 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: this tome will not be burying Landau, but it's an acceptable bait to whet an amateur's interest, i'd imagine.
17:24 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Probably. Is an interesting read.
17:24 asciilifeform which one of you people spoke of reading landau in french? was it mp?
17:27 mircea_popescu prolly.
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17:33 kakobrekla https://static.pinboard.in/webstock_2014.htm
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17:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.04299999 = 0.129 BTC [+]
17:35 asciilifeform kakobrekla: good intro.
17:35 bitcoinpete http://mashable.com/2014/03/05/snowden-phone/?utm_cid=mash-com-Tw-main-link
17:35 ozbot The 'Snowden Phone' Will Encrypt All Your Calls and Texts
17:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 41 @ 0.00574999 = 0.2357 BTC [+] {3}
17:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.04299999 = 0.129 BTC [+]
17:36 bitcoinpete Still Samsung, so how do they unroot?
17:36 asciilifeform re: phone: zimmerman was 'lowered into pederasty'
17:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.00574999 = 0.1437 BTC [+]
17:37 asciilifeform eventually i will deal with this subject in writing, unless mp takes up this chore in my place.
17:39 asciilifeform lev termen was a true inventor
17:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2642 @ 0.0008275 = 2.1863 BTC [-]
17:39 asciilifeform no one alive today is even fit to suck his decomposed cocke
17:39 asciilifeform at least, with regards to invention
17:42 bitcoinpete cool
17:49 asciilifeform he's #2 on my list of folks who probably had the waveguide motor. (after the obvious candidate nick t.)
17:51 bitcoinpete http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/early-classical-revival-websites-do-not-a-bitcoin-bank-make/
17:51 ozbot Early Classical Revival Websites Do Not A Bitcoin Bank Make | When Bitcoin Met Pete
17:51 bitcoinpete On the recent Flexcoin oopsie. He's a local kid, met him a few months back.
17:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 106 @ 0.00441611 = 0.4681 BTC [-] {5}
17:54 jborkl Went to the bitcoin conference today, figured might as well since it is here at home
17:55 asciilifeform mircea_popescu, others: if you think that the enemy is foolish, and has no plan, this is a dangerous mistake: he is clever and knows the ancient chinese formula 'Yi yi zhi yi' (以夷治夷 ?) - 'control the barbarians using barbarians.'
17:55 jborkl Don't worry, no one missed anything
17:55 asciilifeform gox, flexcoin, bitcoinica, etc. are what lenin called 'useful idiots'
17:55 asciilifeform useful idiots do not need to know who they soldiers for.
17:55 asciilifeform *they are
18:04 kakobrekla asciilifeform the whole piece aint bad
18:06 asciilifeform the 'time microscope' thing is typical of aging inventors who, by virtue of being cut off from competent peers (either by having none alive, or being on the wrong side of a jail of one kind or another)
18:06 asciilifeform end up flying off untethered into strange
18:06 asciilifeform e.g. tesla's 'ghost telegraph'
18:07 kakobrekla i guess misconception add up over the years
18:07 kakobrekla misconceptions*
18:07 asciilifeform kakobrekla: i don't think this is it at all
18:08 kakobrekla no?
18:08 asciilifeform rather, this is more like the folks who send binders full of crackpot proofs to maths profs today
18:09 asciilifeform if you're unable to interact with an actual community of your peers, you tend to go way off in some strange direction
18:09 asciilifeform sometimes, with interesting results, more often - with none
18:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 27 @ 0.00391018 = 0.1056 BTC [-] {3}
18:10 asciilifeform another thing about aging inventors
18:10 asciilifeform when they become anxious to carry out a 'last hurrah,'
18:10 asciilifeform the mechanism in their heads that is needed to dis-invest in an unproductive line of inquiry breaks.
18:11 asciilifeform 'this ghost telegraph! it'll be what i'm remembered for! just needs a little tweaking.'
18:11 kakobrekla heh, good points.
18:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.07023011 = 0.2809 BTC [-] {2}
18:11 asciilifeform another similar, but distinct phenomenon is
18:12 asciilifeform people who regularly have ideas usually have fat notebooks full of strange
18:12 cazalla asciilifeform: what's a ghost telegraph? i cannot find anything on google
18:12 asciilifeform when these get published posthumously, quite a bit of strange is revealed
18:12 asciilifeform e.g. karl friedrich gauss had a big fat binder that contained, among other things, both types of non-euclidean geometry.
18:13 asciilifeform but it also had a good bit of crap.
18:14 asciilifeform cazalla: e.g. http://anengineersaspect.blogspot.com/2013/02/life-after-death-according-to-nikola.html
18:14 asciilifeform hard to find good material about an inventor's 'dwarf star' phase
18:14 asciilifeform because the real demented folks inevitably pick it up and add flourishes of their own
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18:16 asciilifeform some 'idea people' don't have these 'coffin liner' binders
18:16 asciilifeform they just publish everything
18:16 asciilifeform and tend to end badly.
18:16 asciilifeform oliver heaviside's notebooks, it is said, stoked a furnace for many years.
18:18 asciilifeform heaviside, the fellow who turned maxwell's equations from 23 in about that many unknowns, into the 4 that we learn in school.
18:18 asciilifeform (and coughed up terms like 'impedence')
18:21 asciilifeform re: invention, for the impatient:
18:21 asciilifeform the greatest heroes who ever lived, who none of us are fit even to be beheaded by, had terrible signal-to-noise ratios
18:21 asciilifeform because that's simply how it works.
18:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.00082548 = 10.236 BTC [-]
18:22 cazalla i wonder if people are testing his hypothesis
18:22 asciilifeform the most one can hope for is to get one or two major ideas 'out'
18:22 asciilifeform how? see mp's little piece about 'art'
18:23 cazalla in the binders full of crackpot writings as you mentioned
18:23 asciilifeform if you dive into the binders, you're almost certainly doomed to be lost in the noise
18:24 asciilifeform if you don't believe this, get thee to a dusty book store and buy bucky fuller's 'synergetics' I and II
18:24 asciilifeform that was his coffin notebook
18:24 asciilifeform that some lost soul printed up
18:25 asciilifeform more or less unreadable - as they tend to be, using 1000s of terms known only to the dead man
18:25 asciilifeform after all, he was writing for his own self
18:26 asciilifeform you can try to read this stuff and make sense of it, but more often than not you'll just be 'rorschaching' your own mind.
18:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00082433 = 9.2325 BTC [-] {3}
18:27 asciilifeform there are so many blanks for imagination to fill in, you'll mostly be reading the contents of the blanks.
18:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.00082973 = 6.14 BTC [+] {3}
18:40 kakobrekla http://blog.tian.io/bitstamp-was-hacked-2-weeks-ago-and-only-now-users-are-finding-out
18:40 ozbot Bitstamp was hacked 2 weeks ago, and only now users are finding out - tian's posthaven
18:40 asciilifeform RIP.
18:41 kakobrekla i dont think i have to repeat myself re bitstamp.
18:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00082391 = 7.9095 BTC [-]
18:43 cads hrm
18:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 45 @ 0.00419947 = 0.189 BTC [-] {2}
18:44 cads I know how to sell basic drafting services, but I need to sell some product/industrial design services and I'm not sure how to price it to the client
18:44 BingoBoingo Two cans, One String
18:44 cads nor am I sure how to structure the IP rights of the result
18:44 kakobrekla BingoBoingo and a lot of gold.
18:45 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: two pounds of shit, one-pound bag.
18:45 kakobrekla http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=79
18:45 ozbot #bitcoin-assets bash
18:45 BingoBoingo Ah there it is
18:45 cads the device is a wearable rapsberry pi PC case with an eyeglass display
18:46 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: There are worse things to step in than shit.
18:46 bitcoinpete cads: $GoogleGlass-$1
18:46 BingoBoingo An aqueous solution of hydrogen flouride would be an example
18:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 25 @ 0.00419947 = 0.105 BTC [-] {3}
18:49 bitcoinpete On the exchange side, that leaves a couple Canadians, CaVirtex mostly, with a sprinkling of Quadriga and Vault of Satoshi.
18:49 bitcoinpete What price discovery?
18:49 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all
18:50 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 668.74, vol: 12773.06091168 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 654.111, vol: 11418.23508 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 668.1, vol: 8398.25382776 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 680.23, vol: 44.07164922 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 652.631904, vol: 8042.55200000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 680.99, vol: 5.23012654 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 663.99055, vol: 70.66675492 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
18:50 BingoBoingo bitcoinpete: BTC price is now mystical
18:51 BingoBoingo BTC will probably keep selling between $600 to $1000 for a while until suckers selling under $1000 have no coins to part with so cheaply
18:52 BingoBoingo From that point BTC price becomes truly etherial
18:52 BingoBoingo People start talking in hushed tones about that time when they once controlled a WHOLE Bitcoin
18:52 jcpham omg you have a whole bitcoin!>!!?!?
18:53 thestrin1puller LOLOLOLOLOLOL
18:53 bitcoinpete BingoBoingo: This time next year
18:53 ThickAsThieves End of summer
18:53 BingoBoingo bitcoinpete: Maybe May? Maybe December 2016
18:54 bitcoinpete That would make quite the bitbet
18:55 ThickAsThieves we'll consolidate, everyone will be like oh now that bitcoin is stable it's so great, then July/Aug, liftoff to like $3000+
18:55 ThickAsThieves then crash again in winter
18:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.08999 = 0.18 BTC [-]
18:55 BingoBoingo bitcoinpete: The problem with betting on the etherial is where to source the information
18:55 ThickAsThieves remember you don't need an index, just a source
18:55 ThickAsThieves specified
18:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7282 @ 0.00083095 = 6.051 BTC [+] {2}
18:56 BingoBoingo Well, the WSJ is blacklisted as is Coinmarket.BBQ
18:57 bitcoinpete bingoboingo: that's where I was going
18:57 bitcoinpete it's self-referencing
18:57 ThickAsThieves so add if/thens
18:58 ThickAsThieves price according to Bitstamp,Coinbase,Kraken
18:58 ThickAsThieves in that order,whomever is still living
18:58 BingoBoingo Isn't Kraken a scam, BitStamp two cans, and Coinbase not an exchange?
18:58 ThickAsThieves so
18:59 ThickAsThieves a bet is a bet
18:59 bitcoinpete Have a list of 10 if need be
18:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] [PAID] 11.96371260 BTC to 19`796 shares, 60435 satoshi per share
18:59 BingoBoingo Only reasonable source might be BitcoinCentral
18:59 BingoBoingo Because davout
18:59 ThickAsThieves what if davout dies
18:59 ThickAsThieves every source has a chance of being invalid
19:00 BingoBoingo Fall back to MPOE's OIX
19:00 ThickAsThieves just build a better bet
19:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11955 @ 0.00082389 = 9.8496 BTC [-] {2}
19:00 ThickAsThieves or even say, if Bitstamp is no longer trading 500btc per day, then this bet resolves as No
19:00 ThickAsThieves two bets in one!
19:01 BingoBoingo Most good Bitbets have at least 5 or 50 secret subbets tucked into them though
19:01 BingoBoingo I.e. "Who could anticipate that S.Dice would cease to be a tradable thing"
19:02 ThickAsThieves erik?
19:03 BingoBoingo ThickAsThieves: See the Yes bet on February 23rd http://bitbet.us/bet/113/bitbet-will-we-worth-more-than-satoshi-dice/
19:04 BingoBoingo Twas one of my better drunk bets
19:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 20 @ 0.0055 = 0.11 BTC
19:04 BingoBoingo Put 1 Twenty dollar Bitcoins down, recieve 5.86932711 hundred dollar Bitcoins
19:05 ThickAsThieves thats why i love bitbet
19:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] [PAID] 1.83967000 BTC to 320`500 shares, 574 satoshi per share
19:05 ThickAsThieves if yer gonna bank, bank there :)
19:05 BingoBoingo And then I got drunk and spent most of them on Buttcoins
19:06 BingoBoingo Lottery WInner syndrome
19:11 BingoBoingo An exercise in "Contracts" http://deadspin.com/cortland-finnegan-uses-twitter-to-tell-the-rams-hes-le-1537223208
19:15 bitcoinpete As much as I'd love to keep earning brownie points by chatting instead of just reading the logs like I do the scrolls, it's time to go for tonight. Cheers y'all
19:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.0696849 = 1.3937 BTC [-] {5}
19:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.00082659 = 12.8121 BTC [+]
19:19 dub project aaaaaaye bro, get on it
19:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.0899879 = 0.27 BTC [-] {3}
19:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.04243323 = 0.1273 BTC [+] {3}
19:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.0880001 = 0.176 BTC [-] {2}
19:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00447 = 0.447 BTC [+]
19:45 BigBlox hey guys can anyone help me resolve a bet?
19:45 kakobrekla hi
19:45 BigBlox hello hello
19:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.06700049 = 0.603 BTC [-] {2}
19:46 kakobrekla if you are talking about bitbet, mods resolve bets, not some random strangers
19:47 BigBlox hi, yes mods, they sent me here
19:47 BigBlox hello strangers
19:47 BigBlox are there any bitbets mods here?
19:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 400 @ 0.00082707 = 0.3308 BTC [+]
19:48 kakobrekla perhaps, or maybe someone else will be able to help
19:49 BigBlox k, well basically i entered the altcoin bet, that was to overtake litecoin, i said yes, i emailed and was told it was a scam, i said i didnt agree, specifically said i didnt want to cancel my bet, and it was still cancelled
19:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 19 @ 0.00574998 = 0.1092 BTC [+] {3}
19:51 kakobrekla which bet is that can you give a link pointing to a bet in the list of accepted bets
19:51 BigBlox yes, http://bitbet.us/bet/621/any-altcoin-will-surpass-litecoin-in-market-capitalization/
19:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 347 @ 0.00446999 = 1.5511 BTC [-]
19:52 kakobrekla how was it canceled, its is resolved as yes
19:52 BigBlox the auroracoin bet :/
19:54 kakobrekla yes what about it
19:54 Duffer1 perhaps you tried to send btc after the result was known but bet wasn't closed yet
19:55 BigBlox i doubt it, it was still open a few days after i sent it
19:56 Duffer1 odd
19:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 55 @ 0.00447 = 0.2459 BTC [+]
19:57 kakobrekla time closing != time when result is known
19:57 kakobrekla sorry, i should say !====
19:58 BigBlox heres the date: 03-03-14 05:55
19:58 BigBlox and it was resolved today
19:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 96 @ 0.00574997 = 0.552 BTC [-] {2}
19:58 mike_c what was your bet? link to it
19:58 BigBlox mine is the last one, on the 3rd for .08
19:59 BingoBoingo BigBlox: Yeah, you bet after things were know it seems, but before they had yet to be resolved. Tis a dangerous time to bet
19:59 BigBlox i sent it before aurora beat litecoin, then i wrote to ask if they were resolving it
20:00 BigBlox i actually didnt know if it was going to but i believed in aurora from the get go so i was pretty sure :)
20:01 BigBlox i mean i'm glad i got my refund, not trying to be a drama queen, but i was surprised i didnt win since i was the one asking, since the 3rd
20:01 kakobrekla then provide the necessary evidence that aurora indeed aurora had not yet crossed litecoin mkt cap at 03-03-14 05:55 (it doesnt matter when you send it, it matters when you are confirmed)
20:02 kakobrekla and -aurora once.
20:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 200 @ 0.0055 = 1.1 BTC
20:03 BigBlox k, where do i send it
20:03 kakobrekla this box is ok
20:03 BigBlox i took a screen shot to show my friend :)
20:04 ThickAsThieves http://www.scribd.com/doc/210845161/SEC-vs-pirateat40-1
20:04 ozbot SEC vs. pirateat40 1
20:04 ThickAsThieves http://www.scribd.com/doc/210845205/SEC-vs-pirateat40-2
20:04 ozbot SEC vs. pirateat40 2
20:04 ThickAsThieves highlights here http://buttcoin.org/pirateat40-became-bill-cosby-coins
20:07 ThickAsThieves "The Fed is using curent exchange rates (3/3/14) to say investors were defrauded of $149 million"
20:08 BigBlox oh before, i have shots of the time after it passed, how can i get that?
20:10 kakobrekla http://buttcoin.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Screen-Shot-2014-03-05-at-1.34.57-PM.png
20:10 kakobrekla smickles ?
20:10 BigBlox i mean the bet showed up on the ledger, then the next day on the 4th i emailed, does that count or can i show you an email with the time and date?
20:11 kakobrekla ok so what does an email help to prove exactly?
20:11 asciilifeform wait - it's a civil complaint?
20:11 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Of course this is the SEC
20:12 BingoBoingo I believe that point had been mentioned here before...
20:12 BigBlox the site says the bets are resolved hours after, if i bet on the 3rd and it was resolved today, then isnt that automatically legit?
20:12 kakobrekla no
20:12 BigBlox BitBet Mod 03-03-14 at 07:38 It has to be a coin, not a scam. Aurora is a scam, not a coin.
20:13 ThickAsThieves Gibson named!
20:13 kakobrekla where
20:13 BingoBoingo ThickAsThieves: As a beneficiary?
20:13 ThickAsThieves you just linked it
20:13 ThickAsThieves no
20:13 BingoBoingo kakobrekla: Your buttcoin link
20:13 kakobrekla i did?
20:13 BigBlox on the comments
20:13 BingoBoingo Link just mentions meeting
20:13 ThickAsThieves i havent parsed whole doc
20:13 kakobrekla oh right, i does.
20:13 BingoBoingo Need to read moar to see if Gibson is beneficiary
20:14 kakobrekla BigBitz EVIDENCE
20:15 Duffer1 big one and number two.. anyone taking bets one of those was goat?
20:15 BigBlox what can i provide? my bet went live on the ledger on the 3rd? you guys kept the bet live until today, not sure how that isn't enough
20:15 Duffer1 prove you bet before the outcome was known, regardless of when bet closed
20:15 mike_c in that i am feeling generous tonight, and i think he's right:
20:15 mike_c http://i.imgur.com/gssmMI7.png
20:15 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Pirateat40 does indeed have an outstanding criminal complaint, but that is related to domestic violence
20:16 ThickAsThieves his middle name is "T"
20:16 ThickAsThieves hehe
20:17 kakobrekla oh, much wow mike_c
20:17 mike_c i know..
20:18 mike_c oh wait! it's wrong
20:18 kakobrekla ;;later tell mircea_popescu get the whip out.
20:18 gribble The operation succeeded.
20:18 kakobrekla is it?
20:18 BigBlox i took this right after it hit: http://imgur.com/mXt6XUa
20:18 mike_c ;;calc (4 + 1) / 2
20:18 kakobrekla ;;later tell mircea_popescu put the whip back in.
20:18 gribble 2.5
20:18 gribble The operation succeeded.
20:18 ThickAsThieves How long have you been married?
20:18 BigBlox other than that i'm not sure what i can give you :/
20:18 ThickAsThieves Oh, man, seven yeras.
20:18 mike_c the line is at the wrong time.
20:19 Duffer1 Thickasthieves thanks for that, pretty amazing stuff
20:19 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
20:19 Duffer1 the buttcoin article i mea
20:19 Duffer1 n
20:19 BigBlox i bet before aurora hit 300
20:20 kakobrekla BigBitz as useful as a default windows xp background
20:20 dexX7 fyi: blockchain.info is broken, https://blockchain.info/block-height/288788 misses 225 transactions (ids: http://pastebin.com/gsa0c3iQ)
20:20 Duffer1 so Shavers is proceeding without representation?
20:20 BigBlox thanx mike_c
20:21 BingoBoingo Duffer1: Yeah, it seems
20:21 mike_c no, don't thank me
20:21 mike_c i had the wrong time. it actually looks like you were late
20:21 asciilifeform https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=502952.0
20:21 kakobrekla dexX7 http://blockr.io/block/info/288788
20:21 ozbot The first line of defence is taken
20:21 BigBlox lol
20:22 dexX7 yup, blockr is correct
20:22 mike_c but if you want to try and prove, use those charts on coinmarketcap. from what i can tell, when your bet was registered, aurora was at around 4.5
20:22 mike_c well above litecoin
20:24 BigBlox how about my btc transaction, doesnt that show the time i sent the bet?
20:24 BigBlox or ID
20:24 BigBlox i sent from my wallet
20:24 mike_c well, sent doesn't matter, confirmed matters.
20:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3500 @ 0.0001865 = 0.6528 BTC [-] {2}
20:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00447 = 0.2235 BTC [+]
20:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2000 @ 0.0001865 = 0.373 BTC [-]
20:26 BigBlox ok, thanx anyways, all good, it probably registered late :)
20:26 kakobrekla yes thanks mike_c :)
20:27 BigBlox thanx kakobrekla and mike_c in the place to be!
20:27 mike_c you're welcome! pleasing customers since 2014
20:27 kakobrekla and remember kids, customers are always wrong.
20:27 kakobrekla (as seen above)
20:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 192 @ 0.00574999 = 1.104 BTC [+]
20:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 310 @ 0.00446999 = 1.3857 BTC [-]
20:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 50 @ 0.0055 = 0.275 BTC
20:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 159 @ 0.00574999 = 0.9142 BTC [+] {2}
20:36 ThickAsThieves "and when did you first give your forum password to Copumpkin?"
20:36 kakobrekla whut
20:37 peterl who's giving out passwords?
20:37 BingoBoingo Wait, is there trouble in veggie prison?
20:38 Duffer1 it's the shavers testimony
20:40 punkman such deposition, no lawyer, wow
20:44 kakobrekla http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=290799.msg5537766#msg5537766
20:44 ozbot [ANN] KRAKEN.COM - Exchange Now Open with USD, EUR, BTC, LTC, XRP, NMC, XDG
20:44 kakobrekla o lel
20:45 kakobrekla thats what you get when retarded webdevs make exchanges, for the seventy fifth time
20:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3925 @ 0.00082388 = 3.2337 BTC [-]
20:49 ThickAsThieves jcpham mentioned
20:49 ThickAsThieves someone he returned coins to
20:50 ThickAsThieves he did not return all of gigavps coins
20:52 BingoBoingo "No, it is just a certification company where you have to take the tests to become certified"
20:55 ThickAsThieves "I really wouldn't consider it an exchange. It was really more of a bucket shop" (bitcoinica)
21:02 copumpkin ThickAsThieves: hah, where's that?
21:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 54 @ 0.00589997 = 0.3186 BTC [+]
21:02 copumpkin oh I see
21:05 BingoBoingo Fuku Scribd and your shit scrolling
21:06 kakobrekla http://blog.gdatasoftware.com/blog/article/uroburos-highly-complex-espionage-software-with-russian-roots.html
21:08 asciilifeform kakobrekla: old news
21:09 kakobrekla sez 28.02.
21:09 asciilifeform kakobrekla: also only a moron - or someone trying to shift blame - leaves readable strings in a trojan.
21:09 BingoBoingo Prolly best to leave the strings out and fill the Trojan with Spartans
21:11 copumpkin smickles: dude, he says you were in vegas when you weren't
21:11 copumpkin unless you were hiding
21:12 kakobrekla maybe someone pretended to be him
21:13 copumpkin not as far as I remember
21:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1679 @ 0.00082313 = 1.382 BTC [-]
21:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.58153001 BTC [-]
21:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 33 @ 0.00567 = 0.1871 BTC [-] {2}
21:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.00563118 = 0.1408 BTC [-] {5}
21:18 BingoBoingo We might have to rent a Llama for all of the drama
21:23 * jadne looks at BingoBoingo
21:23 * BingoBoingo is tired of Scribd, digs out the old PACER login
21:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.0865 = 0.519 BTC [-] {2}
21:29 ThickAsThieves wow they go thru every single pirate account holder one at a time...
21:29 copumpkin fun
21:29 copumpkin I haven't gotten there yet :P
21:29 copumpkin this thing is long as fuck
21:30 ThickAsThieves he mentions he used your account for other things
21:30 ThickAsThieves but that the records are generally accurate
21:31 copumpkin see, that does not ring a bell with me at all
21:31 copumpkin we did fuck around a fair bit
21:31 copumpkin but I don't give my passwords out and would be weirded out by someone else giving me their
21:31 copumpkin s
21:32 ThickAsThieves no this is referring to your savings account
21:32 copumpkin oh
21:32 ThickAsThieves he used people's accoutns to mask tx's
21:32 copumpkin I see
21:33 copumpkin why mine? :(
21:33 copumpkin :P
21:34 benkay where does the good stuff start, ThickAsThieves?
21:34 copumpkin man, I'm in this thing a ot
21:35 * copumpkin sighs
21:35 BingoBoingo Fuck Pacer
21:36 ThickAsThieves the underline what's interesting to them
21:36 ThickAsThieves but what's interesting to us might be other stiff
21:36 ThickAsThieves stuff*
21:36 benkay "Bitstamp, you're now the replacement to MtGox. Don't screw this up."
21:36 benkay mystical bitcoins, guys
21:38 BingoBoingo I just can't believe Number 2, is this fucking Austin Powers?
21:38 ThickAsThieves so many pages
21:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.07000001 = 0.7 BTC [+] {3}
21:39 Duffer1 does he give any indication of who big one and number2 are?
21:40 ThickAsThieves no
21:41 ThickAsThieves an interesting thing that seems to be happening is he expresses full intention to make everyone whole, something he feels he could achieve, but SEC froze his accounts
21:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14150 @ 0.00082427 = 11.6634 BTC [+] {2}
21:41 ThickAsThieves and now btc is worth so much more
21:41 copumpkin sweet, I'm rich!
21:41 copumpkin >_>
21:41 ThickAsThieves in a sense i wonder if he would have
21:41 copumpkin lol
21:41 copumpkin how could he have?
21:41 copumpkin you can't just pull money out of thin air
21:41 ThickAsThieves well how much would it have cost him back then
21:41 copumpkin it was still a lot of money
21:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 28 @ 0.06710001 = 1.8788 BTC [-] {8}
21:42 Duffer1 if he stopped accepting deposits and wasn't holding fiat at all.. and got lucky on justdice..
21:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.06695715 = 0.4687 BTC [-] {2}
21:43 Apocalyptic <ThickAsThieves> in a sense i wonder if he would have // I'm pretty sure he wouldn't
21:44 benkay "subfora"
21:44 ThickAsThieves i wasnt around so i have no sense of it
21:46 ThickAsThieves "Q: So a year after BST collapsed, you sent 202000 bitcoin to somebody who walked with it?"
21:46 ThickAsThieves "Correct"
21:49 BingoBoingo lol
21:49 Apocalyptic copumpkin, so much for you anonymity heh
21:49 copumpkin lol
21:49 copumpkin have you tried googling my nick?
21:49 copumpkin I don't try to stay anonymous :)
21:49 copumpkin kind of annoyed that he keeps saying I have his password, although it doesn't seem harmful
21:50 BingoBoingo Well, Moustakiswas the one to Bring up Gibson's last name, and the cubby white kid known as Goat is only refered to as Chaang Noi as far as I have made it so far.
21:51 benkay "If you can adjust the price of bitcoin on your own through some market manipulation after you get them back from Big One, what do Big One's promises about what the price of bitcoin is on Mt. Gox matter?"
21:51 copumpkin lol, pirate doesn't believe for a minute that goat's real name is chaang noi
21:51 benkay "He's returning you bitcoin. He's not returning us dollars."
21:53 BingoBoingo No one believe's Goat's name is Chaang Noi, but he proceeds as certain as does only remembering James of James Gibson
21:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 26 @ 0.00446999 = 0.1162 BTC [-]
21:56 ThickAsThieves page 269 gets pretty funny
21:57 ThickAsThieves they start antagonizing him over why he didn't perform days worth of computing analysis on the blockchain to provide more useful data
21:57 artifexd "I lent 202000 bitcoins to Mr. Big Man and never got them back" <- LOL
21:58 BingoBoingo I should have got a bigger bottle of Vodka for tonight.
21:59 ThickAsThieves it's almost believable this wasn't technically a ponzi
21:59 ThickAsThieves the wya he tells it
22:01 BingoBoingo ThickAsThieves: He was clever enough to get three quarters of a million BTC under his control. It would make sense that he could try to frame things such that he admits to being a turd, but not that ponzi wop kind of turd
22:02 BingoBoingo Thermos is mentioned on page 39
22:02 copumpkin thermos lol
22:02 Apocalyptic as Thermos with the "r" ?
22:07 BingoBoingo Thermos because when you fuck up that much, you don't get the privilege of presenting yourself as an exemplar of Classic Greek values like sodomy
22:09 ThickAsThieves "I tell you what. I'll give you a very detailed explanation of how the Tor Network works and how Tor mail works, and you can understand what I mean ... It's designed to not be trackable, not be traceable by any form of government."
22:10 asciilifeform lol
22:11 BingoBoingo Page 45 clarifies that Patrick Harnett did indeed have pirate exposure (page meaning sheet and not the quarterleaf the transcriptionist for some god awful reason assented to)
22:12 copumpkin BingoBoingo: full account info is online, btw
22:12 copumpkin so yes we know that patrick had a large account :P
22:12 benkay where is full account info?
22:13 BingoBoingo copumpkin: I know, but the scenario submitted some hours ago where asciilifeform clears the entire court docket because of poor signatures isn't a think we might as well read what is entering the court records as they presently exist
22:13 copumpkin oh
22:14 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: either too much vodka, or not enough
22:14 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Far from enough to finish these filings
22:15 BingoBoingo The modified anthem is an engineering problem
22:15 asciilifeform sorta like atomic submarine was engineering problem for old jules verne
22:16 asciilifeform i should note that the idea is lifted from neal stephenson's mega-backbreaker 'anathem'
22:16 asciilifeform where people compute using song
22:16 BingoBoingo Yet anothing thing to read
22:16 ThickAsThieves done with doc 1, not a lot to highlight...
22:17 BingoBoingo Fucking Penrose wasting years 2-3 of my undergrad
22:18 asciilifeform if you folks only ever read one book i mentioned, read that one.
22:18 BingoBoingo Fine, I'll pause Land of Lisp and get to it.
22:18 asciilifeform (stephenson's 'anathem' not penrose's rtr)
22:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.58152002 BTC [-]
22:21 Duffer1 mega-backbreaker lol
22:21 Duffer1 i loved that book btw ^.^
22:21 BingoBoingo But does Stephenson have beautiful prose like "It is still unresolved in an 'absolute' sense. Kurt Godel and Paul Cohen were able to show that the continuum hypothesis (and also the axiom of choice) is not decidable by the means of standard set theory." Chapter 16 page 5
22:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.575875 = 2.3035 BTC [-] {4}
22:21 BingoBoingo Hella lot of name dropping
22:22 ThickAsThieves i'm currently reading REAMDE actually
22:22 benkay Anathem over Gravity's Rainbow?
22:22 asciilifeform ThickAsThieves: reamde was, imho, total garbage. i was about to lose respect for neal s, but then heard that it was actually written by a chum of his
22:23 asciilifeform and published under his name for some reason
22:23 * BingoBoingo wishes he learned to beat machines into doing math instead of learning to do math personally
22:23 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: piratebay, then 'mathematica'
22:23 artifexd Huh. I enjoyed Reamde. Especially the discussions of in-game economics.
22:23 ThickAsThieves great...
22:23 ThickAsThieves i'm not crazy at least
22:24 asciilifeform it was an ok 'airport detective shooter' but very poor stephenson.
22:24 ThickAsThieves been wondering why the fuck everyone loved the guy so much
22:24 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: I actually have a copy of Mathematica from this Dubious "Edx" thing. Apparently it is some sort of mook for pushing software?
22:24 asciilifeform because, afaik, it wasn't stephenson at all.
22:25 ThickAsThieves Anathem ordered
22:25 Duffer1 good choice
22:25 ThickAsThieves juggling too many books now...
22:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.00574997 = 0.23 BTC [+]
22:26 ThickAsThieves need to take a flight somewhere to catch up
22:26 asciilifeform damn i must've bought... 4... 5? copies of anathem
22:26 asciilifeform for chums
22:26 ThickAsThieves i just buy The Alchemist for people ;)
22:26 Duffer1 I did that with Perdido Street Station
22:26 Duffer1 by Mieville
22:27 benkay asciilifeform have you ever read Banks Algebraist?
22:27 asciilifeform benkay: nope
22:27 benkay (Iain M. Banks, The Algebraist)
22:27 BingoBoingo Oh, page 58, doc one, some gigaVPS preferential treatment
22:27 KRS-One Algebait?
22:27 KRS-One .bait
22:27 ozbot http://24.media.tumblr.com/e7f8897f95417aeee08e55703ac9183d/tumblr_mpn17nfBUJ1sq44lfo1_1280.jpg
22:27 benkay algebaiter
22:28 BingoBoingo If anyone else wants to read RTR I recommend starting with Chapter 29 and then moving to chapter one
22:28 Duffer1 rtr?
22:29 BingoBoingo Oh, I prolly should not mention in plaintext what just fell out from between some pages.
22:29 BingoBoingo Duffer1: Penrose's Road to Reality
22:29 BingoBoingo Duffer1: Great math book with some maybe wrong physics editorializing
22:31 Duffer1 looks interesting, I have added it to my list
22:31 BingoBoingo I seriously forgot I even had this x that fell out, and kind of forgot what the x was...
22:31 ThickAsThieves "realizing net proceeds of $164,758 from his net sales of 86,202 bitcoins"
22:31 ThickAsThieves ouch
22:32 Duffer1 ya the "walked away with 202000" made me cringe
22:34 ThickAsThieves "And, so long as Shavers has an internet connection, he will be in a position where future violations could be anticipated"
22:36 moiety mew
22:36 moiety ThickAsThieves: you here?
22:36 benkay it's just this crazy mess of overlapping concerns
22:36 benkay of course it blew up on him
22:36 benkay he probably got taken to the cleaners by several different people several different ways
22:36 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: what just fell out from between some pages... I seriously forgot I even had this x that fell out... << http://imgur.com/dG7MOMB
22:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 7 @ 0.02199999 = 0.154 BTC [+] {3}
22:37 asciilifeform perhaps this
22:37 moiety whats ThickAsThieves's altcoin site again? bout to send folk there
22:37 ThickAsThieves <moiety> ThickAsThieves: you here? /// for the moment
22:37 moiety yay!
22:38 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Something lighter, more fungible. Book's to good to pull quotes from to use it for that even though the bulk and cover quality are more than adequate.
22:38 ThickAsThieves the site for Altcoin is www.therealaltcoin,org
22:38 ThickAsThieves .
22:38 moiety thanks!
22:39 BingoBoingo moiety: I'm almost offended you have a chat site for Doge (historical translations for that term are unpleasant) but not Altcoin
22:39 moiety um what would you have said if i wanted to set that up?
22:39 benkay BingoBoingo: you're too close! pull up! pull up!
22:39 moiety just linked to it ThickAsThieves ... people were discussing what alt to get into, told them that
22:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 275 @ 0.00089499 = 0.2461 BTC [+] {3}
22:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 70 @ 0.0055 = 0.385 BTC
22:40 asciilifeform moiety: the best alt is 'slavecoin'
22:40 asciilifeform moiety: the only minus is that it has to be built first
22:40 BingoBoingo moiety: I would have said yes, seems like a decent investment for a joke coin. Especially if the gambling bots could be revived.
22:40 moiety lol i was about to say i hadnt heard of that one!
22:41 moiety aye but we're just bleeding doge, its not a money maker
22:41 moiety was just what was left over from loq
22:41 moiety well, cc
22:42 moiety kinda went doge because thats what we'd already been asked for ... more than getting btc back
22:42 moiety weirdly
22:42 moiety would you have even wanted invoolved in a chat?!
22:43 BingoBoingo moiety: Maybe if it was Altcoin chat
22:43 moiety i thought you thought i should give up altogether on it
22:43 BingoBoingo Not Doge though
22:43 moiety no i did worry about telling you actually lol
22:44 moiety you havent disowned me though :)
22:44 benkay where is your coinchat located, moiety?
22:44 BingoBoingo moiety: THe chatsite thing really it seems can't work as other than a chumpatron
22:44 moiety https:dogechat.net -- still lots to be done to it though benkay!
22:44 moiety https://dogechat.net lets try that again
22:45 moiety people are being bizarre about my photo already, im taking it off
22:45 Apocalyptic why does that remind me of coinchat by TF ?
22:45 moiety because its his code but heavily tweaked
22:45 BingoBoingo Apocalyptic: TF dumped it onto moiety
22:45 moiety i think i was the only one that couldnt say no
22:46 benkay pay much for it?
22:46 moiety although it's doge, this one is going a lot better BingoBoingo .. it's like the start of cc again
22:47 moiety not a thing, he wanted to get rid of it benkay
22:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1009 @ 0.0044 = 4.4396 BTC [-] {2}
22:47 moiety and people didnt want it to close
22:47 * moiety has mug on her forehead
22:47 BingoBoingo According to the narrative I understand moiety was merely a bigger chump than the rest
22:48 benkay typing while balancing
22:48 benkay hie thee to the circus!
22:48 moiety bingo, ive probably been the biggest after all the backlash when i was just trying to help
22:48 BingoBoingo moiety: Well, the price was free for a reason
22:49 moiety i did say no the first three or so times
22:49 moiety i do like the people (mostly) and i feel bad just disappearing, you know?
22:50 benkay *obligatory wolf joke reference*
22:50 benkay "You have zero record of lending 202000 bitcoins to The Big One the second week of July, 2012; is that right?"
22:50 benkay "I'm going to find it."
22:50 BingoBoingo Two wolf corner a sheep to poll what is for dinner, the sheep has a Nagant
22:52 asciilifeform nubbins around? he should draw this scene
22:53 benkay i was thinking about the dick sucking, but let's not suffer nubbins` rendition of that, please.
22:53 asciilifeform german and partizan uniforms optional
22:54 BingoBoingo The Kalishkinov been trendy for decades, but partisans have been using the Mossin Nagant for more than a century nao
22:55 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: other nagan - http://reibert.info/attachments/n2-jpg.2913873/
22:56 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Involvement of their products really is a prerequisite for a proper world war
22:57 benkay subject of, how's the promontory, BingoBoingo?
22:58 BingoBoingo Which one benkay?
22:58 BingoBoingo Price is hard to beat http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ProductListing.aspx?catid=7704
22:58 benkay crimea
22:58 benkay it's pretty funny how shavers keeps saying 'i see where you
22:58 BingoBoingo benkay: Uniformed forces are still far away it seems
22:59 benkay re going with this' just a sentence or two late
23:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 397 @ 0.00089499 = 0.3553 BTC [+] {2}
23:00 BingoBoingo Expendables for the Mosin get expensive fast though http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ProductListing.aspx?catid=607
23:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [7C] 48 @ 0.00366086 = 0.1757 BTC [-]
23:04 benkay oh this is amazing
23:04 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
23:06 moiety we could make chess from those
23:06 BingoBoingo Max Keiser's employer http://rt.com/usa/rt-reacts-liz-wahl-042/
23:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16605 @ 0.00082382 = 13.6795 BTC [-]
23:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.085 = 0.17 BTC [-]
23:11 benkay is Vandroidy still around?
23:11 benkay ;;ident Vandroidy
23:11 gribble Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead.
23:11 benkay ;;gpg info
23:11 gribble (gpg info [--key|--address] <nick>) -- Returns the registration details of registered user <nick>. If '--key' option is given, interpret <nick> as a GPG key ID.
23:11 benkay ;;gpg info Vandroidy
23:11 gribble No such user registered.
23:11 benkay ;;seen Vandroidy
23:11 gribble I have not seen Vandroidy.
23:12 benkay 5kbtc bet against the BCST scam and not in IRC?
23:12 asciilifeform BingoBoingo, Nagans: http://imgur.com/jxCM3h4
23:12 BingoBoingo Putin takes Crimea, Us does http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/02/state-department-cscc-troll-terrorists-twitter-think-again-turn-away
23:14 asciilifeform u.s. reduced to asking people politely not to clobber it, news at 11
23:15 joecool man i wish the US would hire me to troll on IRC, just a few mil, i'd be down
23:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30900 @ 0.00082382 = 25.456 BTC [-]
23:16 BingoBoingo joecool: Ask them to pay in BTC
23:16 BingoBoingo Smaller number cheaper cost
23:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.08433333 = 0.253 BTC [-] {2}
23:17 joecool true
23:18 joecool probably costs them more though, they have them high speed printers for freedom money
23:19 BingoBoingo joecool: How many links in the chain of eurocrats will protest though
23:20 moiety BingoBoingo: didn't realise you came by til now
23:20 moiety sorry i didnt see
23:21 BingoBoingo moiety: Had to close the tab. Dogers were trying to talk to me.
23:22 moiety lol i am sorry ... i can't shut them up (good for me though)
23:22 moiety see i still have stuff to do as well
23:22 moiety what did you think apart from the dogers?
23:23 BingoBoingo Eh, looks the same.
23:23 moiety i'm struggling with killing the cat, can't lie
23:24 BingoBoingo I've heard feedback on that cat. "Doge site with a fucking cat?"
23:24 joecool moiety: got a chinese restaurant near you?
23:25 BingoBoingo moiety: You are familiar with wet dog smell right?
23:25 moiety BingoBoingo: when we go to change it (we have doge drawings now); people complain as well. i think i'll get them to vote on it. and ew yes wet dog smell. fortunately, it doesn't rain much on the interwebz
23:26 * moiety gasps at joecool !
23:26 BingoBoingo moiety: What smells like wet dogs? also get some clips on joecool
23:27 moiety we cats?
23:27 moiety wet*
23:29 BingoBoingo moiety: Maybe the politically incorrect thing doesn't translate well across the ocean
23:30 moiety yeah i'm totally lost
23:30 joecool me too
23:31 BingoBoingo moiety: Fucking Crackers smell like wet dogs http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Wet+dog
23:31 BingoBoingo ;;ud wet dog
23:31 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Wet%20dog | what a white person smells like after getting rained on, running long distances, or just getting sweaty/wet.
23:31 ozbot Urban Dictionary: Wet dog
23:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 25 @ 0.02220042 = 0.555 BTC [+] {2}
23:32 moiety lol sorry i have honestly never heard that before BingoBoingo !
23:32 joecool same
23:32 benkay moiety they'll never appreciate any work you do for free
23:32 benkay so fuck 'em
23:32 BingoBoingo Seriouly, white people smell like wet dogs
23:33 moiety benkay: couple wee shits that were throwing tantrums at the old site are getting told to get to fuck from the new one :)
23:33 moiety I smell like mangos
23:33 joecool BingoBoingo: where you from?
23:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.58999999 BTC [+]
23:34 moiety mango body butter ftw
23:34 benkay rub it all over y'self ;)
23:34 BingoBoingo joecool: A place, Do you want coordinates in traditional 3+1 dimensional space or 2+2 twistor space?
23:34 moiety head to toe afterr every shower benkay! i'll be a mango soon!
23:35 benkay sounds tasty
23:35 benkay great mangos in argentina, apropos only of mangos
23:35 benkay .bait
23:35 BingoBoingo moiety: Doesn't it frost in fogland where you are from? If you go outside you will die!
23:35 ozbot http://24.media.tumblr.com/de79cc75b73015807bbf9b6fa9a74a7c/tumblr_mffv6x5O741r13a9go1_1280.jpg
23:35 benkay .bait
23:35 ozbot http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbpk8jnXRq1qg3cg3o1_1280.jpg
23:35 benkay great mangos there, too ^^
23:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59 BTC [+]
23:36 moiety i think that last bait is the best one yet
23:36 benkay my mangos seem to have manufactured some meat for me so i'm going to man off meow
23:36 moiety BingoBoingo: this is why im a housecat
23:37 moiety practically freeze to death indoors
23:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.58999999 = 1.77 BTC [-]
23:38 asciilifeform moiety: http://i.imgur.com/hKk5a77.jpg
23:39 moiety asciilifeform: that's the best cat ever! is it real?!
23:39 asciilifeform moiety: it is!
23:39 asciilifeform moiety: it's called manul.
23:39 moiety that man looks so pleased to see it!
23:39 moiety how is it so big?!
23:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1352 @ 0.00018798 = 0.2541 BTC [+] {2}
23:40 asciilifeform moiety: it's a big cat. lives in the steppes.
23:40 moiety i need to live there
23:40 moiety the guys with the german sherpherds look a bit deflated next to the cat
23:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62979 @ 0.00082309 = 51.8374 BTC [-] {4}
23:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.58999999 = 3.54 BTC [-]
23:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18288 @ 0.00082212 = 15.0349 BTC [-]
23:48 moiety they are so pretty asciilifeform wiki tries to tell us they are small pffft
23:48 asciilifeform moiety: approx. the size of two regulation housecats.
23:49 moiety is the imgur one just a huge one?
23:49 moiety its like 20 of mine
23:49 asciilifeform moiety: mostly fur, i imagine.
23:49 moiety oh how cosy
23:49 asciilifeform moiety: and perhaps a little photoshop
23:49 moiety no.. no photoshop. *denial*
23:51 asciilifeform moiety: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_LGaK3oxIk
23:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38545 @ 0.0008244 = 31.7765 BTC [+] {2}
23:53 BingoBoingo Steppes music sounds like Missouri music
23:53 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: afaik mongolia
23:56 moiety asciilifeform: lol the music makes that video. i like how the cat tried to take on the blanket
23:56 BingoBoingo That feral looks a lot my a friend's ex's cat, "Gracie" the beast was called
23:57 moiety https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fy8sKM_ZK4w BABIES!
23:57 asciilifeform http://www.arkinspace.com/2011/04/manul-cat-that-time-forgot.html
23:57 ozbot Manul – the Cat that Time Forgot ~ The Ark In Space
23:58 moiety gracie is a lovely name
23:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 53 @ 0.00405 = 0.2147 BTC [-] {3}
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