02:46 |
asciilifeform |
meanwhile pestlog thrd of possible interest to other folx. |
02:46 |
bitbot |
(pest) 2021-11-14 awt: asciilifeform: yeah I think the irc server includes your client host info as part of your id in the irc messages. Should be able to mitigate that server side. |
02:47 |
* |
asciilifeform takes off hat to billymg for baking civilized logger nearly immediately after thimbronion's prototype |
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03:00 |
asciilifeform |
phunphakt: if somehow, under some odd circumstances, two pest peers do not know one another's ips, but know expected port, they can find each other in... |
03:01 |
asciilifeform |
(2**32) / (60*60*24*10000) ~= 5days , by sending 10k packets/s ( (10000 * 498) / (1024**2) ~= 5MB/s ) to randomly-selected ipv4s. |
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03:01 |
asciilifeform |
... given as only 1 packet needs to get through. |
03:02 |
asciilifeform |
if spamming outta ~both~ ends -- cut the figure in half. |
03:02 |
asciilifeform |
afaik there is literally no other published protocol where can do this. |
03:04 |
asciilifeform |
if spam outta both ends, and can do 50MB/s -- <3hrs. |
03:04 |
asciilifeform |
err, 6 |
03:05 |
asciilifeform |
anyways, entirely feasible. |
03:05 |
asciilifeform |
(and, by 'birthday theorem' likely much sooner than the 'exhaustive' figure.) |
03:07 |
asciilifeform |
if errybody had gb/s pipes, could even dispense with initial AT setup entirely, lol |
03:11 |
asciilifeform |
(note that the 'spammer' needs to not sit behind a nat. in the latter case router will exhaust 'ephemeral ports' and recycle, and back-connect will fail) |
03:12 |
asciilifeform |
ideally this 'ecologically dirty' trick will never be needed. but if needed -- readily doable. |
03:13 |
asciilifeform |
$ticker btc usd |
03:13 |
busybot |
Current BTC price in USD: $64799.43 |
03:13 |
asciilifeform |
!w poll |
03:13 |
watchglass |
Polling 17 nodes... |
03:13 |
watchglass |
176.9.59.199:8333 : Could not connect! (Operator: jurov) |
03:13 |
watchglass |
185.85.38.54:8333 : Could not connect! |
03:13 |
watchglass |
84.16.46.130:8333 : Could not connect! |
03:13 |
watchglass |
185.163.46.29:8333 : Could not connect! |
03:13 |
watchglass |
213.109.238.156:8333 : Could not connect! |
03:13 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.101s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=709625 (Operator: asciilifeform) |
03:13 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.141s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=709625 |
03:13 |
watchglass |
71.191.220.241:8333 : (pool-71-191-220-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.155s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=709625 (Operator: asciilifeform) |
03:13 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.141s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=709625 |
03:13 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.143s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=709625 |
03:13 |
watchglass |
54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.173s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=709625 |
03:13 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.144s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=709625 (Operator: whaack) |
03:13 |
watchglass |
208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.225s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=709625 |
03:13 |
watchglass |
143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.244s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=709625 |
03:13 |
watchglass |
54.38.94.63:8333 : (ns3140226.ip-54-38-94.eu) Alive: (0.254s) V=88888 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.8.88.88/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=709625 |
03:13 |
watchglass |
103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.586s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=709625 |
03:15 |
watchglass |
192.151.158.26:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.) |
03:15 |
asciilifeform |
... likewise pest worx without modification over radio, wire, or other 'broadcast channel'. simply stuff erry outgoing packet into a free timeslot. |
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05:42 |
cdd |
I'd like to ask (I'm not sure if this is the right channel to ask on) if I could purchase bitcoin in exchange for monero? |
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16:00 |
shinohai |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-13#1065565 << might not be very compact, but in place of parens, I just remebered you *can* [shalmaneser]awt ... for example |
16:00 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-13 12:44:00 thimbronion: (shalmaneser)awt: Nickname is unavailable: Illegal characters |
16:01 |
shinohai |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-14#1065615 << fluffyponies likely to be found on Libera. |
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16:01 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-14 00:42:17 cdd: I'd like to ask (I'm not sure if this is the right channel to ask on) if I could purchase bitcoin in exchange for monero? |
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16:20 |
signpost |
in today's chuckles, current version of the linux kernel requres at least gcc 5.1.0, not to mention openssl and other rot. |
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16:21 |
* |
signpost seeing how metastasized this is for science |
16:25 |
thimbronion |
$ticker btc usd |
16:25 |
busybot |
Current BTC price in USD: $64083.29 |
16:37 |
shinohai |
signpost: The m/l is absolute cancer, if the "muh rust" folks have their way, you'll need all that bloat to build kernel sometime in the future. |
16:37 |
signpost |
didn't linus say "just the tip" err "just modules" about it? |
16:37 |
signpost |
it's defo coming. |
16:40 |
signpost |
https://lkml.org/lkml/2020/7/10/1261 << guess he didn't draw such a line, just mentioned drivers as an example. |
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16:40 |
signpost |
woof, clownworld sucks. |
16:43 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-14#1065620 << lol!! ( and oblig ) |
16:43 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-14 11:20:30 signpost: in today's chuckles, current version of the linux kernel requres at least gcc 5.1.0, not to mention openssl and other rot. |
16:43 |
asciilifeform |
wonder what dafuq sslism is doing in there ( and rly, not as optional turd, but won't link w/out it ?? ) |
16:45 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-14#1065627 << drivers in 'nonstandard' langs have existed for a while ( asciilifeform linked to an ada example, cannot nao find, grr ) but afaik none yet in linus's tree |
16:45 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-14 11:40:28 signpost: https://lkml.org/lkml/2020/7/10/1261 << guess he didn't draw such a line, just mentioned drivers as an example. |
16:46 |
asciilifeform |
will be lulzy when the tards start linking over9000 separate gc's into kernel... |
16:48 |
asciilifeform |
fwiw earlier this yr asciilifeform grudgingly went to 5.11.3 (in torture room strictly, on account of this) , built a-ok w/ gcc 4.9. |
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16:48 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-07 20:24:04 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-07#1063729 << i got 1 of those amd cad card things that doesn't 3d ~at all. but worx with 100% blobless driver, and pushes 3 x '4k', which was all i needed. |
16:48 |
asciilifeform |
i suppose it'll be the last. |
16:48 |
asciilifeform |
if ever somehow 'must new irons' will have to backport the modules. |
16:49 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-14#1065615 << maybe ask mats , iirc he's admitted to collecting certain shitcoins ( was gonna nominate shinohai , but iguess he dun have that one ? ) |
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16:49 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-14 00:42:17 cdd: I'd like to ask (I'm not sure if this is the right channel to ask on) if I could purchase bitcoin in exchange for monero? |
16:50 |
asciilifeform |
!!key cdd |
16:50 |
deedbot |
http://wot.deedbot.org/9AE49057D9F0AD7011E3B64FCB7A19D404E79375.asc |
16:50 |
asciilifeform |
!!rated cdd |
16:50 |
deedbot |
asciilifeform has not rated cdd. |
16:50 |
asciilifeform |
!!rate cdd 1 n00b |
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16:50 |
deedbot |
Get your OTP: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=Vism |
16:51 |
asciilifeform |
!!v 9633E971D30DC4493AC924AA558ADBC818792CA623BE0D9A8F1A0842F27C6062 |
16:51 |
deedbot |
asciilifeform rated cdd 1 << n00b |
16:53 |
asciilifeform |
meanwhile, in misc. finds : a quite compact cl ircd, possibly usable as a pestron frontend. |
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16:53 |
shinohai |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-14#1065639 << I grew tired of even fucking with it because of the "HF erry months" policy they had going on. |
16:53 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-14 11:49:53 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-14#1065615 << maybe ask mats , iirc he's admitted to collecting certain shitcoins ( was gonna nominate shinohai , but iguess he dun have that one ? ) |
16:54 |
asciilifeform |
shinohai: was thinking about this, and starting to suspect that all shitcoins are doomed to eternal regular 'upgrades' via centralized scam hq: it's their only defense against the 'atc death'. |
16:55 |
asciilifeform |
i.e. as soon as perp starts to notice that he's no longer the dominant miner, will 'upgrade' the pow, and the chumps will eat it up (given as they ate a shitcoin to begin with, being chumps) |
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16:56 |
asciilifeform |
and given as the entire purpose of a shitcoin is to 'replay history' with perp at the center. |
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16:56 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-07-18 21:00:06 asciilifeform: erryone wants to 'be satoshi'. how to achieve this if not by somehow replaying history with $perp at 'the center'. |
16:58 |
asciilifeform |
recall how one nao needs a 'license' from buterin to mine ethertardium, for instance. |
17:00 |
shinohai |
cl-ircd looks pretty neat asciilifeform ... far more compact than that nea-ircd I toyed with for a while. |
17:01 |
asciilifeform |
shinohai: could be trimmed substantially given as pest doesn't actually need anyffin like a full ircd |
17:01 |
asciilifeform |
only the 'skin' of one |
17:02 |
asciilifeform |
(e.g. none of the 'op' functionality is needed) |
17:04 |
shinohai |
Might be a good learning exercise for me to learn how usocket udp worx at very least. |
17:10 |
signpost |
cool, since deedbot is cl, might be handy for bolting to pest |
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18:19 |
asciilifeform |
shinohai: the beauty of udpism is that there aint much to undestand, it worx more or less same errywhere. |
18:20 |
asciilifeform |
signpost: indeed. and imho optimal pestron would be sumthing more or less separable from the default (irctronic) front end, i.e. gluable directly to a bot such as deedbot |
18:23 |
asciilifeform |
shinohai: udp per se is the proverbial 'postcard' -- take N bytes, an ip and a port, and throw'em on their way at the latter |
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18:24 |
signpost |
yep, very little of deedbot gives a shit about irc too. |
18:24 |
asciilifeform |
aaha |
18:25 |
asciilifeform |
shinohai: there's nuances, e.g. fragging, the ephemeral ports thing, etc. but overall as simple as it gets, udp is simply raw ip with the protocol # set to 17 and a checksum field. |
18:25 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-09-19 16:26:43 asciilifeform: punkman: i'm abusing the terminology, factually. referring to anything that may be fragged. |
18:28 |
asciilifeform |
( well, that and fields for src/dest ports, these aint in raw ip ) |
18:28 |
asciilifeform |
see also. |
18:29 |
asciilifeform |
there's a total of 8 bytes that aint in a raw ip packet. |
18:33 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-14#1065618 << hm i thought he was cooling his heels in usg coin extraction gulag ? did he ransom himself ? |
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18:33 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-14 11:01:42 shinohai: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-14#1065615 << fluffyponies likely to be found on Libera. |
18:35 |
shinohai |
lol I refer to all monero enthusiasts collectively as "fluffyponies" |
18:35 |
asciilifeform |
a. |
18:35 |
shinohai |
They're like furries but like pretending their coins are totally top seekrit. |
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18:36 |
* |
asciilifeform not visited 'libera' and doesn't have any plans to, didn't lose anyffin there |
18:36 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-09-16 13:29:18 asciilifeform: under no circumstances however will asciilifeform participate in the reich's replacement-fleanodes or any such thing. |
18:39 |
asciilifeform |
the sinking of fleanode, with the attendant exodus of rats from the boat, was rly a gift from the gods. |
18:39 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-09-16 13:33:09 asciilifeform: simply stating for the record that asciilifeform doesn't give a fuck, and will happily do without ever speaking with any such people again, if it means to also be free of fleanodism in all of its manifestations. |
18:49 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-14#1065677 << erry half-serious shitcoin has a 'lure'. for ethertards, the 'smart'; for tortards -- 'anonymism'. |
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18:49 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-14 13:35:54 shinohai: They're like furries but like pretending their coins are totally top seekrit. |
18:49 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-09 03:13:39 cdd: asciilifeform: Been reading this article on your historic gentoo distfiles. I was reading some of the comments, specifically the reply to an "anonymous" user. I think I get what you mean now. |
18:50 |
asciilifeform |
seems that the monerists even 'learned from' 1 classic mistake of the tor pushers, and nao trying to engineer an Official usg 'ban' on 'privacycoins' ('it's banned, so it must work!') |
18:51 |
asciilifeform |
rather like the astroturfed 'controversy' re 'end-to-end crypto' (where 100% of the softs in question are in fact faux-p2p moxyware) |
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18:52 |
shinohai |
"No way the USG runs the majority of exit noads, you're just spreading FUD!!!!" et all |
18:52 |
asciilifeform |
shinohai: not only the trivial fact re exit nodes, but whole thing, in light of the fate of the various 'silk roads' |
18:53 |
asciilifeform |
'coventrying' dunwork if the perp can't 'keep it in his pants'. |
18:53 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2020-05-15 21:48:10 asciilifeform: Apocalyptic: this is universally the case in crypto. recall coventry. |
18:55 |
asciilifeform |
btw recall the pompous 'busts' of derps who baked 'eevil seekrit turdroid pnojes for mafia' ? |
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18:55 |
asciilifeform |
there's what, 3, and counting, they have 1 erry yr nao, next one's due any time nao |
18:56 |
asciilifeform |
the obv. point of these exercises is to lure the dumb shits to the next one, ad infinitum. and by all indications -- worx |
18:58 |
asciilifeform |
2017. |
18:58 |
asciilifeform |
2020. |
18:58 |
asciilifeform |
2021. |
18:59 |
shinohai |
lulzy |
18:59 |
asciilifeform |
2021 take2. |
18:59 |
asciilifeform |
lost count. |
19:00 |
asciilifeform |
'feel like a trader'(tm)(r)(tlp). |
19:01 |
asciilifeform |
this not even counting various 'blackphone', 'redphone', 'silentphone'(?), etc. lulz |
19:02 |
asciilifeform |
there seems to be an entire ministry of honeypots dedicated to nuffin else. |
19:02 |
shinohai |
e.g. https://grapheneos.org/ |
19:03 |
asciilifeform |
y'know, anyffin, anyffin but actual crypto. |
19:04 |
asciilifeform |
even a schoolboy could readily bake e.g. otp-ciphered walkie talkie. but no one's ever heard of one, because nobody will engineer a 'bitcoin magazine' marketing push for working crypto, because why. |
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19:05 |
asciilifeform |
meanwhile 'militias' publish standardized tables of plaintext pirate radio freqs. |
19:06 |
asciilifeform |
(if yer already squatting on usg freqs at 50watts, 'may as well hang for a sheep as a lamb' and otp?? but no...) |
19:06 |
asciilifeform |
... because 100% provocateurs. |
19:07 |
asciilifeform |
'Channel 3 - 462.6125 MHz - FRS 3 - Primary Patriot Militia Calling' 'Channel 17 - 462.6000 MHz - FRS 17 - Patriot Militia Ops Tactical' etc etc |
19:08 |
shinohai |
Even drug cartels understand otp over pirate rf lol |
19:09 |
asciilifeform |
shinohai: speaking here of supposed 'opposition' to regime, rather than the smugglers who exist in harmonious symbiosis with 'war on drugs' |
19:10 |
asciilifeform |
( the latter more often than not use usg-issued gear, when they aint busy with 'caesar cipher' lolz ) |
19:12 |
asciilifeform |
and observe the total lack of interest from ~all quarters in triangulation-proof radio. |
19:12 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2020-04-27 23:24:36 asciilifeform: roughly speaking, 'uwb' over 0-30Mhz . |
19:12 |
asciilifeform |
even tho w/ modern silicon, just short of trivial. |
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19:29 |
asciilifeform |
mostly (but not entirely!) unrelated : |
19:30 |
asciilifeform |
asciilifeform would like to propose a new pest msg command : |
19:33 |
asciilifeform |
0xFE and 0xFD: broadcast (a la 0x00, i.e. to all member of a pestnet whose $maxbounce permits'em to hear), bearing not text but a ciphrogram, keyed to a peer for whom the sender wishes to find ip:port. |
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19:33 |
asciilifeform |
actually just 0xFE (the intended addressee, if he's on that pestnet and reachable, will decode, and make contact with the addr:port enclosed) |
19:34 |
asciilifeform |
all others ignore (given as they can't decode the payload). |
19:34 |
asciilifeform |
would be imho reasonable to rate-limit these (i.e. accept, say, 1 per peer per 5min) |
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19:35 |
asciilifeform |
this'd obviate the need to exchange AT entries with ~every~ peer, while exposing nuffin to folx whose biz it aint. |
19:35 |
asciilifeform |
^ thimbronion billymg shinohai signpost et al ^ q/s comments invited. |
19:36 |
asciilifeform |
the ciphered payload of 0xFE would consist simply of the AT-format addr/port on which the sender wishes to be reached by the addressee. |
19:37 |
asciilifeform |
if the addressee receives, he makes contact, and this becomes his current AT entry for the sending peer. otherwise nuffin happens. |
19:40 |
asciilifeform |
you'll still need at least ~one~ peer's addr to get on a pest net, but from there on, any peer with whom you have a valid key will be contactable henceforth without fiddling, for so long as he is reachable via a broadcast on that net. |
19:42 |
asciilifeform |
this is strictly isomorphic to the current draft where we e.g. 'hey erryone, asciilifeform is on ip:port' via plain broadcast text. but moar narrowly targeted, i.e. it aint whole planet who gets the info but only the folx who have any biz doing so. |
19:47 |
punkman |
if we have this, might as well allow arbitrary content in the encrypted message, rather than just ip:port |
19:48 |
asciilifeform |
formally, imho payload (i.e. the 428byte msg) of 0xFE oughta consist of : 32bytes ('my handle') + 4 bytes ('my ip') + 2 bytes ('my port') + 10 bytes nulls (padding) == 48bytes serpented, and anuther 48bytes of hmac (via signing key of addressee/sender pairing), summing to 96byte, and 332 nulls. |
19:49 |
asciilifeform |
punkman: imho this oughta be strictly for 'hey $peer, i'm over-here' |
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19:49 |
asciilifeform |
punkman: otherwise is an invitation to simply treat ~all~ messages as broadcasts, which will be bw-costly. |
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19:49 |
punkman |
hence the rate limit |
19:50 |
asciilifeform |
punkman: even when individual peers rate-limit, you can still get a pretty thick flood if yer pestnet is populous |
19:50 |
asciilifeform |
so imho is bad idea to simply send errything-to-erryone, even with rate limits |
19:50 |
asciilifeform |
except when it specifically is needed to help establish contact |
19:51 |
asciilifeform |
over e.g. shortwave, yes, we'll 'errythign to erryone', but there it doesn't cost nearly so much given that there's a single stream. |
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19:51 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-13 22:15:20 asciilifeform: ... likewise pest worx without modification over radio, wire, or other 'broadcast channel'. simply stuff erry outgoing packet into a free timeslot. |
19:51 |
punkman |
there is no way for peers to filter it anyway, only recipient can discard non "ip:port" message, after decrypting it anyway |
19:52 |
asciilifeform |
punkman: correct |
19:52 |
asciilifeform |
punkman: limiting the payload to the purpose of making contact is simply 'ecological' consideration |
19:52 |
asciilifeform |
it'd suck imho if a pestnet with coupla hundred people were uninhabitable unless you have gb/s pipe. |
19:53 |
asciilifeform |
i.e. if you ~know~ where (addrwise) a peer is , you oughta be speaking directly. |
19:53 |
asciilifeform |
rather than spraying to entire net erry single msg. |
19:57 |
asciilifeform |
imho these oughta be sent strictly when necessary -- otherwise you leak info to entire pestnet which folx dun have necessarily any biz knowing (concretely -- the # of peers you have) |
19:58 |
punkman67 |
thinking of it as "emergency message" routing, rather than "regular direct message" |
19:58 |
asciilifeform |
rright |
19:59 |
asciilifeform |
punkman: i'd simply rather not have pest protocol resemble the proverbial 'matryoshka doll' where a msg can contain arbitrary other msg etc |
19:59 |
punkman67 |
your station already received and decrypted message, might as well log it and notify operator |
19:59 |
asciilifeform |
imho there's no valid use case for these other than to establish AT. |
20:00 |
asciilifeform |
hence why not save the fingerwork and let it do so, rather than 'hey $peer, plz add 1.2.3.4:5567 for my AT, kthx' via humantext |
20:00 |
punkman67 |
yeah makes sense |
20:01 |
asciilifeform |
a++ |
20:01 |
asciilifeform |
asciilifeform wasn't aiming to bake 'a tor', and imho to do so is foolish in general case |
20:04 |
asciilifeform |
i'd very much rather that folx suffering untreated case of 'tor of the central nervous system' not use pest. |
20:05 |
asciilifeform |
folx who demand the impossible, are an attractive nuisance for scammers and will always so remain. |
20:05 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-07-07 17:23:30 asciilifeform: verisimilitude: i dun think kakobrekla is 'pushing' ethertardism, but pointing out that it is a natural fuffle for folx who demand impossibilities to be offered eventually. |
20:06 |
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asciilifeform must bbl |
20:13 |
asciilifeform |
incidentally, thinking about it, simple rate-limiting is nonsensical -- instead 0xFE msgs should simply rank 'dead last' priority and get decoded on an as-cycles-avail. basis. |
20:13 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-14 14:34:39 asciilifeform: would be imho reasonable to rate-limit these (i.e. accept, say, 1 per peer per 5min) |
20:13 |
asciilifeform |
i.e. solely when cpu would be otherwise idle. |
20:13 |
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asciilifeform genuinely bbl |
20:20 |
punkman67 |
alternative implementation: "have_you_seen_handle" message, you send to all your peers, they reply with "ip:port:last_seen_timestamp" for requested handle |
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21:04 |
billymg |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-13#1065580 << i didn't even have to do anything really, the irc mimicking worked well enough that i simply had to spin up another bot configured with my pest instance as the irc server |
21:04 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-13 21:47:37 asciilifeform: takes off hat to billymg for baking civilized logger nearly immediately after thimbronion's prototype |
21:10 |
scoopbot |
New post on Thimbron: Blatta 9989: presence for wot |
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21:13 |
shinohai |
^ neato thimbronion will try as soon as back @ desk |
21:13 |
thimbronion |
shinohai: cool, ty! |
21:14 |
billymg |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-14#1065673 << nah, he was released. unless captured again since then |
21:14 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-14 13:33:49 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-14#1065618 << hm i thought he was cooling his heels in usg coin extraction gulag ? did he ransom himself ? |
21:14 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-09-21 15:55:21 shinohai: lol fluffypony released from the Fed's AirBnB https://archive.is/mTX0l |
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23:03 |
shinohai |
$vwap |
23:03 |
busybot |
The 24-Hour VWAP for BTC is $ 64113.02 USD |
23:04 |
shinohai |
^ so it seems for some reason when doing this in pestnet, the chan field no longer does anything, so msg is just going into void. |
23:04 |
shinohai |
Don't understand it, I changed 0 on the bot. |
23:09 |
shinohai |
billymg: I'll bet it's because with bots blatta now expects `--channel-name` flag to be set. |
23:12 |
billymg |
shinohai: are you seeing awt's recent messages in the channel |
23:13 |
shinohai |
Just now rejoining |
23:26 |
thimbronion |
shinohai: default channel flag is #pest |