00:00 |
mircea_popescu |
cads that is a slightly different discussion, and in no way related to "views". |
00:00 |
asciilifeform |
naggum's 4-ring binders |
00:00 |
asciilifeform |
'lemon car' theorem, etc. |
00:00 |
mircea_popescu |
and that different discussion i will appoach from the following different angle : |
00:01 |
mircea_popescu |
would you consider more important the mona lisa or an equally large, equally well made unknown painting certainly made by da vinci ? |
00:01 |
asciilifeform |
cads: even a rookie spammer can easily arrange a million 'views' of whatever. |
00:01 |
mircea_popescu |
the mona lisa people have spenbt 45804958609458609458609845045809845 minutes watching. |
00:01 |
mircea_popescu |
this unknow painting, 845. |
00:01 |
mircea_popescu |
which is the more important ? |
00:02 |
mircea_popescu |
who the fuck sits in museums with a clicker doing cezanne vs caravaggio minutemanview competition ? |
00:02 |
mircea_popescu |
why not compare movies by the gross weight of tit watching them ? |
00:02 |
cads |
in the landscape of the possible human experience time is the only scarce resource, so if in /this/ universe people have spent more time experiencing the first art work, then I am willing to say this is more "important" |
00:02 |
mircea_popescu |
the oscars this year totals films watched by 48599 tons of tit fat. |
00:03 |
mircea_popescu |
so if i were to give you one of the two, you'd pick the mona lisa ? |
00:03 |
asciilifeform |
reason i mentioned google's widget, is that the chumps pay manyfold for 'conversions' (term of art) |
00:03 |
assbot |
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00:03 |
asciilifeform |
i.e. 'victims' who do not merely click the ad, but go on to buy something |
00:04 |
mircea_popescu |
right. |
00:04 |
mircea_popescu |
how the fuck would time be a scarce resource anyway. |
00:04 |
asciilifeform |
the type of fool that pays for mere click is not entirely extinct, however. |
00:04 |
mircea_popescu |
the people who do views have nothing else to do with their time |
00:04 |
mircea_popescu |
that's why they're there. |
00:04 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform slowly dieing out, like the email spammer. |
00:04 |
assbot |
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00:05 |
cads |
mircea_popescu: I'm merely saying one work has influenced far more human experience, thoughts, and ultimately economic action. |
00:05 |
mircea_popescu |
maybe it has. |
00:05 |
mircea_popescu |
except the point of art is that it doesn't work like commerce. |
00:06 |
mircea_popescu |
maybe the unseen painting also has. for what we know... |
00:06 |
cads |
art works like a popularity contest |
00:06 |
mircea_popescu |
naw. |
00:06 |
mircea_popescu |
;;google trilema what is art |
00:06 |
gribble |
What is art ? pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/2013/what-is-art/>; Art over time, a graph of progress. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: <http://trilema.com/2013/art-over-time-a-graph-of-progress/>; WhoMerLock :: A Trio of Trilemmas by GMYuna on deviantART: <http://gmyuna.deviantart.com/art/WhoMerLock-A-Trio-of-Trilemmas-424265034> |
00:06 |
mircea_popescu |
i need a ;;trilema |
00:06 |
mircea_popescu |
ffs this thing sucks. |
00:06 |
cads |
not a competition of provision of real valued, but a competition to earn human sentiment |
00:07 |
mircea_popescu |
http://trilema.com/2013/what-is-art/ |
00:07 |
ozbot |
What is art ? pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
00:07 |
mircea_popescu |
there, share it with the feminists, it'll make them like me, much to their detriment. |
00:10 |
cads |
I'm not going to argue what is art, I'm interested in how artists earn money, and I'm having a hard time believing that the amount of money that an artist earns does not _strongly_ correlate with the amount of attention that others give him. |
00:10 |
cads |
how can that claim be sustained? |
00:11 |
cads |
okay |
00:11 |
mircea_popescu |
the amount an artist earns strictly correlates with how powerful his lord is |
00:11 |
mircea_popescu |
and how well he serves him. |
00:11 |
mircea_popescu |
s'all. |
00:12 |
cads |
I can think of many artists that make livings working in larger studios |
00:12 |
cads |
for commercial work - entertainment, marketing, design |
00:12 |
mircea_popescu |
i can think of many ways people structure deals to avoid tax. |
00:13 |
cads |
these artists do /not/ recieve attention |
00:13 |
mircea_popescu |
yes they do, it's just not nominalized. |
00:13 |
cads |
and they in fact do better than artists that try to make their living purely on their art |
00:13 |
mircea_popescu |
the ronin ":artist" is merely a rebellious peasant. |
00:13 |
cads |
which would seem to sustain the claim that earning do not correlate to attention |
00:13 |
mircea_popescu |
no matter how he tries to fake the pretense of being an actual artist. |
00:16 |
assbot |
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00:17 |
Namworld |
;;premium mtgox bitstamp |
00:17 |
gribble |
Premium of MtGox over Bitstamp is currently -52.9905981226 %. |
00:17 |
Namworld |
This is the best thing ever... |
00:18 |
Namworld |
+25% to under -50% |
00:18 |
cads |
I think that's very cynical, and more of a moral issue.. do you think it's wrong or weak for someone to try to make a living as an artist? |
00:18 |
mircea_popescu |
i think it's confused. |
00:18 |
cads |
Stupid? Patently. |
00:18 |
mircea_popescu |
do you think it's wrong or weak for someone to make a living as an electric engineer specialised in pottery ? |
00:19 |
cads |
Sure |
00:19 |
mircea_popescu |
or a word mathematician ? |
00:19 |
mircea_popescu |
(like, say, a kabbalist) |
00:19 |
cads |
what the fuck are you doing with yourself then :D |
00:19 |
mircea_popescu |
it's ridiculously misguided. |
00:19 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
00:19 |
Namworld |
What's the issue with someone making a living as an artist? |
00:20 |
mircea_popescu |
you'll have to read teh log, argument started centuries ago. |
00:20 |
Namworld |
I must be missing something. |
00:20 |
cads |
Expected ROI |
00:20 |
cads |
for one. |
00:20 |
asciilifeform |
reduces to a search for the right moneyed fool (e.g. reportedly, kabbalists do find employment in israel) |
00:20 |
mircea_popescu |
cads picture a chick showing up to the sky olympics with toothpics for sticks. |
00:20 |
Namworld |
Oh... well I guess few makes it. |
00:20 |
Namworld |
But "artist" encompass a lot of people and careers... |
00:21 |
assbot |
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00:21 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform the john is not a fool, he's buying something for his money. |
00:21 |
cads |
okay, so I understand, kabbalists and artists are our public enemy so lets not be impressed with them |
00:21 |
mircea_popescu |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GH56xkdUwmM |
00:21 |
ozbot |
Pulp Fiction Bad Mother wallet restaurant scene Jules - YouTube |
00:22 |
mircea_popescu |
eh you understand nothing! |
00:22 |
cads |
in the same sense that we must never expound the virtues of a song about selling crack |
00:22 |
mircea_popescu |
bah fucking youtube. |
00:22 |
cads |
even if it is awesome and has done interesting things in the market :D |
00:23 |
Namworld |
Artists are our public enemy? |
00:23 |
Namworld |
What? |
00:23 |
cads |
I was being facetious. |
00:24 |
cads |
I want to talk about the econmics of how artists earn their sentiment, and we seem to feel that artists deserve only shitty sentiment because they're shysters that troll for a handout. |
00:24 |
cads |
And "click, whirr" the automatic thoughts now prevent us from applying economic modelling to this agent class |
00:24 |
Namworld |
earn their sentiment? |
00:25 |
mircea_popescu |
"jules, you give that fucking nimrod fifteen hundred dollars i'll shoot him on general principle" "now... I ain't giving it to him Vincent. I'm buyin' something for my money. Wanna know what I'm buyin' Ringo ? |
00:25 |
mircea_popescu |
"What ?" |
00:25 |
mircea_popescu |
"Your life." |
00:25 |
mircea_popescu |
bout it. |
00:25 |
MisterE |
poetry |
00:25 |
mircea_popescu |
cads you have no modelling, there is no economy and no sentiment. fugeddaboutit. |
00:26 |
Namworld |
What is going on here? |
00:26 |
MisterE |
we're just about to bring in the gimp I think |
00:26 |
mircea_popescu |
nah we already had the gimp |
00:26 |
mircea_popescu |
he's off building an exchange. |
00:26 |
cads |
hehe, this is how mircea_popescu and I say "I love you" |
00:27 |
assbot |
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00:27 |
cads |
haha, and I'm basically arguing that we can make human attention fungible and this is a horror scenario because that means the marketing firms win. |
00:27 |
mircea_popescu |
no. |
00:28 |
mircea_popescu |
you are arguing that people are interchangeable, which is broken in the way socialism generally is broken. |
00:28 |
mircea_popescu |
nothing human is fungible. |
00:28 |
assbot |
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00:28 |
Namworld |
We can? What? |
00:28 |
mircea_popescu |
only the inhuman parts are fungible. |
00:28 |
mircea_popescu |
this is how you know you are not your liver. |
00:30 |
mircea_popescu |
that said, you can infinitely confuse yourself with "newer" and "never" repackagings of but wait look! i have built a perpetuum mobile, i have redressed socialism so now it works etc. |
00:30 |
mircea_popescu |
i have no objection to the activity, but it doth amuse on one hand and fail to entice o nthe other. |
00:31 |
Namworld |
I'm pretty sure my humans aren't fungible. Some of my subjects are worth more. They'd cost you more for me to be willing to depart with them. |
00:32 |
cads |
Suppose I have attempted to construct a system where my clients can pay well defined amounts of money to predictably add and remove beliefs from a group of people. It's worked - I've both started and ended revolutions, political movements, market crazes... in a number of countries. |
00:33 |
mircea_popescu |
okay. |
00:34 |
mircea_popescu |
Namworld better go searching for moistened bints. |
00:35 |
Namworld |
That is a valid alternative. |
00:35 |
cads |
ehh, that scenario is too imaginary |
00:36 |
mircea_popescu |
lol caught yourself in your own web huh. |
00:36 |
cads |
the scenario is too tacky to think about :D |
00:36 |
ThickAsThieves |
catching up on log, but cads, Cloud Atlas was pretty lame |
00:37 |
mircea_popescu |
stop repressing him |
00:37 |
mircea_popescu |
he's like... trying to sniff emancipated, unshaven cunt |
00:37 |
asciilifeform |
cloud atlas! another cheap sf flick with the bomb collars! |
00:37 |
asciilifeform |
always the bomb collars. |
00:37 |
asciilifeform |
hollywood seems to love them. |
00:37 |
cads |
ah, warn copumpkin |
00:38 |
copumpkin |
watching it now |
00:38 |
copumpkin |
ssh |
00:38 |
cads |
the man has committed |
00:38 |
mircea_popescu |
you ssh ing into a film ?! |
00:38 |
copumpkin |
yeah, I have an ascii art video player |
00:38 |
asciilifeform |
ssh -X |
00:38 |
copumpkin |
works fine if you configure your terminal correctly |
00:38 |
copumpkin |
no |
00:38 |
cads |
hehe mircea_popescu you |
00:38 |
copumpkin |
not enough bandwidth for X forwarding of video |
00:38 |
mircea_popescu |
"easy to use if you know what you are doing" |
00:38 |
cads |
're an ass :D |
00:38 |
copumpkin |
cads: you're just now realizing? |
00:39 |
cads |
course not! |
00:39 |
copumpkin |
the guy's internet famous for it |
00:39 |
copumpkin |
:) |
00:39 |
mircea_popescu |
he's only now started the sniffing. |
00:39 |
mircea_popescu |
pubertee :D |
00:39 |
copumpkin |
hah |
00:39 |
copumpkin |
anyway, back to movie |
00:39 |
copumpkin |
this thing isn't going to watch itself |
00:39 |
mircea_popescu |
buy a cozy and a ceramic bracelet on etzy while at it. |
00:39 |
mircea_popescu |
feed a starving virgin! |
00:40 |
asciilifeform |
it's a 'good bad film.' i recommend it. |
00:41 |
mircea_popescu |
i just realised we could make a pretty decent -assets mockumentary |
00:41 |
asciilifeform |
(in the sense of mr. o's essay on 'good bad books') |
00:41 |
assbot |
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00:43 |
cads |
mircea_popescu: I will remember that people can make you reject any economic theory simply by saying the word "feminism" 10 minutes before presenting it :D |
00:43 |
mircea_popescu |
im the foremost feminist here, i'll have you know. |
00:43 |
mircea_popescu |
(no trollo) |
00:43 |
chetty |
ppffttt |
00:43 |
cads |
not a surprise for a slave master to be the feminist of an internet bunch :D |
00:45 |
B007 |
I got accused of being a feminist only once. By a girl. |
00:47 |
chetty |
current definition of term 'feminist' makes it an insult ya know :P |
00:47 |
cads |
I like some feminist stuff but I also like knockers |
00:48 |
cads |
in america at least, dudes that call themselves feminists are mostly women hating bro creeps hiding behind the label |
00:49 |
mircea_popescu |
srsly ? |
00:49 |
cads |
yeah it became a thing |
00:50 |
mircea_popescu |
i thought us male feminists were mostly... you know, dudes that can't otherwise date. |
00:50 |
mircea_popescu |
shy marginally autistic repressed twentysomethings. |
00:50 |
cads |
right it has become rapey bros |
00:50 |
assbot |
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00:50 |
cads |
hey I'm a shy marginally autistic repressed twentysomething! |
00:51 |
cads |
what are ya getting at! :D |
00:51 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, i'm the sort of feminist that torns irigaray to shreds because she's too stupid to live and gives a bad name to the entire thing. |
00:51 |
mircea_popescu |
sort-of like amir taaki. |
00:51 |
assbot |
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00:52 |
cads |
there's this neat defense |
00:52 |
cads |
"It wasn't rape. I'm a feminist" |
00:52 |
assbot |
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00:52 |
mircea_popescu |
how does that work ? |
00:53 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, to help this discussion along, |
00:53 |
mircea_popescu |
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9ulqxAlJW1ru15g3o1_1280.jpg |
00:53 |
cads |
a man will rape a woman and then claim what happened could not have been rape. He's a feminist. |
00:53 |
cads |
He's so hurt now. |
00:53 |
mircea_popescu |
uh |
00:53 |
mircea_popescu |
this is bizarre. |
00:54 |
cads |
He loves women. He's DONE things for the cause. How can this cunt thing he fucking raped her? |
00:54 |
cads |
think* |
00:54 |
mircea_popescu |
would this be one of those ambiguous episode kids get involved in that are currently mislabeled as "rape" in the us ? |
00:54 |
mircea_popescu |
such as get drunk at party, fuck, don't remember much in the morning ? |
00:55 |
B007 |
lol |
00:55 |
B007 |
no |
00:55 |
nicknock_ |
well if you feel regret you can always dump a rape charge at the guy |
00:55 |
nicknock_ |
the female option |
00:58 |
cads |
mircea_popescu: http://kieselaymon.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/tumblr_lsslmrbk001r4vn34o1_500.jpg |
00:58 |
KRS-One |
.bait |
00:58 |
mircea_popescu |
ajajaa |
00:58 |
ozbot |
http://24.media.tumblr.com/9c166611571c2fb0c370a201ed468f1f/tumblr_myr1ixjviu1smfwvpo1_500.jpg |
00:59 |
cads |
mircea_popescu: hey, cute pic, if I cross my eyes I can almost see her in 3d :D |
00:59 |
mircea_popescu |
is "gender is a social construct" supposed to excuse her lack of heels or something ? |
00:59 |
mircea_popescu |
cads yeah the grandiose photochop job is better than the girl. |
01:03 |
BingoBoingo |
Oh, happy birthday to me! |
01:03 |
mircea_popescu |
for his a bingo good booingo! |
01:03 |
assbot |
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01:04 |
BingoBoingo |
I still have to decide what to get myself. |
01:06 |
mircea_popescu |
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcsfl6nH4i1reu145o1_500.gif ? |
01:06 |
BingoBoingo |
Maybe? I'll probably just get myself some scotch. |
01:08 |
BingoBoingo |
Or some nice wool socks. |
01:11 |
mircea_popescu |
<mircea_popescu>buy a cozy and a ceramic bracelet on etzy while at it. |
01:12 |
mircea_popescu |
i will never know why they eschewed naming the thing chintzy |
01:12 |
chetty |
actually rape is a social construct then - no gender = no rape :P |
01:12 |
cazalla |
check yo priviledge |
01:12 |
mircea_popescu |
no woman no cry |
01:12 |
cazalla |
privilege even |
01:12 |
BingoBoingo |
Chintzy might be a good name for a BTC etsy. |
01:13 |
mircea_popescu |
guy walks into a bank "hell-o, i'd like to open a checking account" |
01:13 |
mircea_popescu |
"what for ? you look like one of those bums with delusions of academia" |
01:13 |
mircea_popescu |
"nevertheless, i would like to check my privilege" |
01:19 |
cads |
"Lack game? Try this formula: mention x feminist theorist, y lamentation about political issue that attacks womens rights, z assertion about sexual consent. That tactic alone may work on someone, and thats utterly scary." |
01:19 |
cads |
bahaha |
01:19 |
cads |
also this |
01:19 |
cads |
"In my ideal world, the misogynists would be ultra-detectable, with facial pocks and sulfury odors and grunt wiggle your glazed donut ass for me. " |
01:20 |
mircea_popescu |
da fuck. |
01:21 |
assbot |
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01:21 |
mircea_popescu |
so if i make girls twerk i'm a mysogynist ? |
01:24 |
mircea_popescu |
nm, Minh Nguyen fails to be hot and therefore her rambling is irrelephant. |
01:24 |
cads |
hehe, you are a parody of yourself :) |
01:24 |
mircea_popescu |
this is how you know i'm a feminist! |
01:24 |
mircea_popescu |
um wait... |
01:25 |
cads |
the universe has a human parody operator and you are its fixpoint :) |
01:26 |
mircea_popescu |
http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=4 |
01:26 |
ozbot |
#bitcoin-assets bash |
01:27 |
cads |
I feel for what she says, and I think she's naive in only one thing |
01:27 |
cads |
her two male paradongs of perfect sexism free maleness |
01:27 |
cads |
do not exist |
01:28 |
mircea_popescu |
if i were surounded by douchy us twennysomething as a woman young enough to wish to get laid... frankly i dunno i'd find the time to write |
01:28 |
assbot |
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01:28 |
mircea_popescu |
what with all the reload flamethrower, throw away empty fuel cartridge, reload flamethrower... |
01:29 |
herbijudlestoids |
ThickAsThieves, Bunnyh just got email from Luke-Jr, patch seems good, hope it helps |
01:29 |
mircea_popescu |
this however has nothing to do with sexism, feminism, cultural, social, constructs and so forth. |
01:29 |
cads |
btw who is the originator of the social construct BS? |
01:30 |
mircea_popescu |
cads saussure, probably. |
01:30 |
cads |
it's... essentially right but leads people to conclude what is merely a social construct doesn't actually exist so it should be possible in /theory/ to completely dispell that what was a construct. |
01:30 |
cads |
with another construct |
01:30 |
cads |
presumably |
01:31 |
mircea_popescu |
nah that's not it. |
01:31 |
cads |
but more often with "the truth", at least if you dig at it. |
01:31 |
mircea_popescu |
it leads people to imagine that it was "constructed", which is a pedestrian interpretation of the term of art, |
01:31 |
mircea_popescu |
and thus simultaneously casts blame, upon the politically convenient targets of ostracism (ie, actual males, actual females, anyone not fucktarded) |
01:32 |
cads |
right, the builders |
01:32 |
mircea_popescu |
and offers a seeming basis for further nuttery (ie, that a "better" construct could be constructed. on etsy.) |
01:32 |
mircea_popescu |
it's really just a slightly more iq-amped way of being emo. |
01:33 |
mircea_popescu |
on re-read we don;t disagree. |
01:35 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, the entirety of what passes for "social sciences" in the us these days can broadly be divided without remained into the emo ("i am special because i am chiefly only interested in myself and let me tell you about myself which is important because i am special bla bla bla") |
01:35 |
mircea_popescu |
and goffy, which is "look at all the neat shit i don't understand that i've randomly collected mostly by breaking old stuff apart with a hammer" |
01:36 |
cads |
and the creepy, "look we can predict crimes before they happen by monitoring unsent drafts on facebook" |
01:36 |
mircea_popescu |
one of the funniest things to watch is a goffy and an emo chick being interested in the same dood. |
01:36 |
cazalla |
where do you see that |
01:37 |
mircea_popescu |
used to be the only attraction of livejournal. |
01:37 |
cads |
cazalla: you DON'T see that |
01:37 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40000 @ 0.000876 = 35.04 BTC [-] {3} |
01:37 |
mircea_popescu |
(which was fb before fb) |
01:37 |
cads |
but you know it's there |
01:37 |
cazalla |
i use to have an LJ back in the day :P |
01:37 |
mircea_popescu |
i never did but i read some of my slaves' ljs from back in the day |
01:38 |
mircea_popescu |
mucho humiliatory. |
01:38 |
cazalla |
met a girl on there, thought she would have sex with me if i made an LJ too, gee how naive |
01:38 |
mircea_popescu |
also quite instructive for me. |
01:38 |
benkay |
what did you learn? |
01:39 |
cads |
jesus why the fuck can't we have distributed publicly owned web service assets?! |
01:39 |
cads |
People use LJ for private journals because it has privacy controls |
01:39 |
mircea_popescu |
benkay just enriched my personal sottisier. |
01:40 |
cads |
till their incompetent IT department leaks the firm's key hash database |
01:49 |
benkay |
wow pankkake venus is some brilliance |
01:50 |
benkay |
holy fucknuggets venus is illmatic |
01:50 |
benkay |
makes me want to run my own aggregation channel |
01:51 |
benkay |
or curate a republication of a bunch of feeds |
01:51 |
benkay |
no no no kid focus focus kid there are far more important things |
01:53 |
mircea_popescu |
what venus ? |
01:54 |
benkay |
http://intertwingly.net/code/venus/ |
01:54 |
ozbot |
Planet Venus source code |
01:54 |
benkay |
rss thinger |
01:54 |
benkay |
slash other stuff |
01:54 |
benkay |
probably sucks |
01:54 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00087082 = 10.624 BTC [-] {4} |
01:54 |
benkay |
but man you know what else sucks? my rss story. |
01:55 |
benkay |
solution is not to implement venus actually but to fix rss in emacs |
01:55 |
benkay |
which i totally have time to and will do in the next decade |
01:55 |
benkay |
*flips table* |
01:56 |
benkay |
i'm going to go design a thing. computers suck. |
01:59 |
mircea_popescu |
oic |
02:01 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.127 = 0.254 BTC [+] {2} |
02:01 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.19376446 BTC [+] |
02:03 |
mircea_popescu |
anyone care to help me build a sorted list of politically incorrect english words ? |
02:03 |
mircea_popescu |
nigger > faggot right ? |
02:04 |
ThickAsThieves |
greater at what? |
02:04 |
mircea_popescu |
at incorectness |
02:04 |
ThickAsThieves |
yeah |
02:04 |
mircea_popescu |
fatty next ? or anything before that ? |
02:05 |
ThickAsThieves |
this would take forever |
02:05 |
mircea_popescu |
i just need like the top 10 |
02:05 |
ThickAsThieves |
lol |
02:05 |
mircea_popescu |
5, something. |
02:05 |
ThickAsThieves |
cunt |
02:05 |
mircea_popescu |
cunt is not politically incorrect is it ?! |
02:05 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.1245 BTC [-] |
02:05 |
ThickAsThieves |
wtf is p i tho? |
02:06 |
mircea_popescu |
hm. |
02:06 |
mircea_popescu |
ok. hurtful. |
02:06 |
mircea_popescu |
the most HURTFUL words! |
02:07 |
ThickAsThieves |
i'm drawing a blank |
02:07 |
ThickAsThieves |
must be in a kind mood |
02:07 |
mircea_popescu |
my powem ;/ |
02:07 |
ThickAsThieves |
slut? |
02:07 |
ThickAsThieves |
sandnigger? |
02:07 |
dub |
interseting problem |
02:07 |
ThickAsThieves |
mouthbreather? |
02:08 |
dub |
as a nigger I don't find it offensive, not a faggot so hard to judge |
02:08 |
mircea_popescu |
http://prototoast.blogspot.ro/2010/07/two-most-hurtful-words-in-english.html |
02:08 |
ozbot |
Blog-Mahoney: The two most hurtful words in the English language |
02:08 |
mircea_popescu |
god damned. |
02:08 |
mircea_popescu |
dub you're black now ?! |
02:09 |
dub |
since birth in fact |
02:09 |
ThickAsThieves |
that blog is retarded |
02:09 |
ThickAsThieves |
retard! |
02:09 |
mircea_popescu |
i had no idea. |
02:09 |
mircea_popescu |
o yeah retard. ty. |
02:09 |
ThickAsThieves |
dyke? |
02:10 |
ThickAsThieves |
rugmuncher? |
02:10 |
ThickAsThieves |
jew? |
02:10 |
ThickAsThieves |
greenhorn can be pretty insulting |
02:10 |
mircea_popescu |
jew is fine isn't it ? |
02:10 |
mircea_popescu |
should be something with the holocaust tho |
02:11 |
mircea_popescu |
maybe hebe ? |
02:11 |
BingoBoingo |
Kike |
02:11 |
ThickAsThieves |
slant |
02:11 |
benkay |
programmer |
02:11 |
BingoBoingo |
Gook |
02:11 |
ThickAsThieves |
thug, it's the new nigger |
02:11 |
mircea_popescu |
ahaha programmer |
02:12 |
mircea_popescu |
i wonder if hacker ever makes this list. |
02:12 |
mircea_popescu |
"don't be callin ma momma a hacker yo!" |
02:12 |
ThickAsThieves |
what hacker wants to be called a hacker? |
02:12 |
BingoBoingo |
Dago, potatonigger, Guido |
02:12 |
ThickAsThieves |
other than the pretender kind |
02:12 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo its not that i want a long or exhaustive list, |
02:12 |
mircea_popescu |
i want it sorted. the internet is full of ambigfuous list. i want to see the fucking impolite middle class. |
02:13 |
ThickAsThieves |
my dad had a pretty bad word for nigger in portuguese |
02:13 |
Duffer1 |
race based are some of the most loaded atm |
02:13 |
ThickAsThieves |
prete or something |
02:13 |
ThickAsThieves |
burnt piece of wood |
02:13 |
chetty |
I don't think it can be done, hurt is very sujective |
02:14 |
Duffer1 |
especially those regarding black people and mexicans |
02:14 |
ThickAsThieves |
spic |
02:14 |
BingoBoingo |
Wetback, beaner |
02:14 |
ThickAsThieves |
i like beaner |
02:14 |
ThickAsThieves |
if i were mexican id take it |
02:15 |
ThickAsThieves |
wop |
02:15 |
chetty |
haha 'commie', long ago. Now I think its a compliment |
02:16 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves maybe you could be a faux mexican |
02:16 |
ThickAsThieves |
its a running joke with the father in law |
02:16 |
ThickAsThieves |
cuz he's a redneck who cant tell the difference |
02:16 |
ThickAsThieves |
so i tell him to call me carlos |
02:16 |
benkay |
i use commie as an insult. it confuses people. |
02:17 |
ThickAsThieves |
"Gypped" is arguably the most commonly used racist term in existence today. |
02:17 |
mircea_popescu |
benkay it's always nice to yell when joining a large group "You pinko commie bastards!!!" with lively excitement |
02:17 |
BingoBoingo |
Some are more and less offensive on different sides of the atlantic. Spaz is fine in 'Murica and a Offensive in Britain. Cunt is the reverse (except when dealing with slants as a full rotation is out of the picture) |
02:17 |
mircea_popescu |
those 5 seconds while they try to decide if you're about to mow them down or it's a really funny joke are priceless. |
02:18 |
benkay |
yeah plus you get such great intel about all of them from their reactions i bet |
02:18 |
ThickAsThieves |
orgasm is pretty offensive to a lot of people |
02:18 |
ThickAsThieves |
many sex words |
02:18 |
mircea_popescu |
ya but those are all women |
02:18 |
mircea_popescu |
who cares. |
02:19 |
BingoBoingo |
ThickAsThieves: In these parts I actually hear Jew'd about as often as Gyp'd |
02:19 |
ThickAsThieves |
yeah i think more people use gyp cuz they arent quite sure if its an insult |
02:19 |
ThickAsThieves |
whereas jew'd is pretty obv |
02:20 |
ThickAsThieves |
"guinea-rigged" |
02:20 |
BingoBoingo |
I almost forgot Guinea was a slur, fucking I-talians |
02:20 |
mircea_popescu |
guinea is a slur ? |
02:21 |
ThickAsThieves |
yeah, like wop |
02:21 |
mircea_popescu |
but it's a country name. |
02:21 |
ThickAsThieves |
its assoc with italians for some reason |
02:21 |
mircea_popescu |
;;google guinea-bissau |
02:21 |
gribble |
Guinea-Bissau - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guinea-Bissau>; Guinea-Bissau - Central Intelligence Agency: <https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/pu.html>; BBC News - Guinea-Bissau profile - Overview: <http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-13443186> |
02:22 |
ThickAsThieves |
maybe it's another nigger word |
02:22 |
ThickAsThieves |
i havent heard it since i was a kidf |
02:22 |
ThickAsThieves |
from my dad of course |
02:23 |
ThickAsThieves |
i'm beginning to understand why i like rap so much |
02:23 |
BingoBoingo |
"Q: What do you call an Italian homosexual? A: A Guinea cocksucker." http://books.google.com/books?id=ZgN0XECF5U0C&pg=PA49&lpg=PA49&dq=Guinea+jokes+italian&source=bl&ots=GgC_l5FM1D&sig=qPk8jkJ4dS4QnzzQ0OMKSB3y-_M&hl=en&sa=X&ei=OGcAU8HJAeLmyQHXuoG4BQ&ved=0CEcQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=Guinea%20jokes%20italian&f=false |
02:23 |
mircea_popescu |
you like rap, dub likes dubstep, everyone with his own thing. |
02:24 |
BingoBoingo |
They even use guinea as a slur in The Godfather. |
02:24 |
ThickAsThieves |
italians probly got slaves from there |
02:24 |
mircea_popescu |
they were french colonies tho |
02:24 |
mircea_popescu |
and italians didn't use slaves really |
02:25 |
BingoBoingo |
Maybe the French weren't big fans of the Dagos. |
02:25 |
mircea_popescu |
except the sicilians have to this day a female slavery programme goin |
02:25 |
ThickAsThieves |
did they ship slaves tho? |
02:25 |
mircea_popescu |
only to the moors. |
02:26 |
mircea_popescu |
(fun fact : before the dutch started paying better, the black people were exporting slaves exclusively east, to yemen and other arabs) |
02:26 |
Luke-Jr |
ThickAsThieves: not sure you're involvement, but the change herbijudlestoids mentioned is merged now |
02:26 |
Luke-Jr |
your* |
02:26 |
ThickAsThieves |
my ancestors probly played a decent role in all that, being azorean |
02:26 |
ThickAsThieves |
word |
02:26 |
BingoBoingo |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_moor |
02:26 |
ozbot |
Black Moor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
02:26 |
benkay |
sicilian female slavery?? |
02:27 |
ThickAsThieves |
"Tina Maze of Slovenia and Dominique Gisin of Switzerland finished the women's downhill event with the exact same time" |
02:27 |
ThickAsThieves |
must be a joke in there somewhere |
02:29 |
BingoBoingo |
Openex's ATC volume is down to under a hundredth of a BTC these past 24 hours. Trading on https://x-bt.com/markets/atcbtc still need to pick up the slack though. |
02:30 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15802 @ 0.00087054 = 13.7563 BTC [-] {2} |
02:30 |
ThickAsThieves |
http://www.baystreet.ca/viewarticle.aspx?id=411977 |
02:30 |
ozbot |
Baystreet.ca - ACCESSWIRE |
02:30 |
ThickAsThieves |
Bitcoin Exchange ‘Hitbtc’ Launches February 14th after $3M Investment |
02:30 |
ThickAsThieves |
those are guys mpoe-pr "see here'd" |
02:31 |
cads |
mircea_popescu: I did some reasearch about charlie bit me - turns out the advertising revenue (~$100K) let the father buy a new house. |
02:32 |
mircea_popescu |
whoa look at that, 600mn "views" yielded almost 100 btc. |
02:32 |
mircea_popescu |
a view is more than a hash! |
02:32 |
mircea_popescu |
;;estimate 1000 |
02:32 |
gribble |
(estimate takes no arguments) -- Shows next difficulty estimate. |
02:33 |
mircea_popescu |
;;genrate 1000 |
02:33 |
gribble |
The expected generation output, at 1000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 2621404453.06, is 0.000191846212759 BTC per day and 7.9935921983e-06 BTC per hour. |
02:33 |
mircea_popescu |
;;calc (10**9 * 24 * 3600)/0.000191846212759 |
02:34 |
gribble |
450360727780104448 |
02:34 |
mircea_popescu |
4.5e17 hashes per btc! |
02:34 |
cads |
"At one point in time, their father Howard Davies-Car stressed that he didn't want to commercialize on the boy's success but realized that unlicensed merchandise was being sold based on their video.[9] In response to requests from viewers online the family created "Charlie Bit My Finger" T-shirts, mugs and limited edition calendars.[2][31]" |
02:35 |
mircea_popescu |
so did the reader chicks get a new library yet ? |
02:35 |
BingoBoingo |
;;genrate 440000000000 |
02:35 |
gribble |
The expected generation output, at 4.4e+11 Mhps, given difficulty of 2621404453.06, is 84412.3336141 BTC per day and 3517.18056725 BTC per hour. |
02:35 |
cads |
and it's this next part that makes it seem completely scifi to me: |
02:35 |
cads |
"The family signed into a partnership with a video management company called Viral Spiral. Viral Spiral, a video management company specializing in viral videos, has helped place the video in advertisements for companies like Sprint and helped to create a brand.[23][32] There was also news of a web series featuring the boys in the works.[33] |
02:35 |
cads |
An app called "Charlie Bit Me!!!" was created for Apple and Android devices, developed by Viral Spiral and zGames.[34]" |
02:35 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo watts != kwh |
02:36 |
ThickAsThieves |
create a brand, from a viral video... |
02:36 |
mircea_popescu |
kinda shows how worthless a brand is today. |
02:37 |
benkay |
barely put any effort in... |
02:37 |
ThickAsThieves |
it's like a branding singularity |
02:37 |
benkay |
"hit by the brandhammer" |
02:37 |
ThickAsThieves |
everything you do is your brand |
02:37 |
benkay |
made 100k |
02:37 |
mircea_popescu |
policeman sees guy pissing on a fencepost. "da fuck are you doing!" "branding" |
02:38 |
ThickAsThieves |
freedom of brand! |
02:38 |
mircea_popescu |
"honey tonight i'll brand the fuck out of your vagina." "and then i brandished it into her again" |
02:39 |
ThickAsThieves |
i wonder what they call hot ironing cattle now? |
02:39 |
ThickAsThieves |
viral hits? |
02:39 |
ThickAsThieves |
tattoos |
02:39 |
cads |
oh, hey |
02:39 |
ThickAsThieves |
cowtoos |
02:39 |
cads |
speaking of memes turning into brands |
02:40 |
cads |
wtf is up with dogecoin?! |
02:40 |
cads |
their market cap is way up! http://coinmarketcap.com/doge_30.html |
02:40 |
ThickAsThieves |
it's Field Day for Nobodies |
02:40 |
mircea_popescu |
cads "turning" is maybe a little much |
02:41 |
ThickAsThieves |
i suspect doge is owned by way less people than they appear |
02:41 |
mircea_popescu |
http://coinmarketcap.com/ |
02:41 |
ozbot |
Crypto-Currency Market Capitalizations | Bitcoin Ripples Litecoin Peercoin DogeCoin Nxt Mastercoin C |
02:41 |
ThickAsThieves |
it's probly just a couple sock armies |
02:41 |
mircea_popescu |
dropped to 5 in the fantasy league. |
02:41 |
BingoBoingo |
If Doges are so great, why doesn't Sochi want them? |
02:42 |
mircea_popescu |
prolly next surpassed by next. |
02:42 |
ThickAsThieves |
lol there's 2m more doge than last time i looked! |
02:42 |
ThickAsThieves |
2t* |
02:42 |
mircea_popescu |
MaxCoin -22% lmao |
02:43 |
ThickAsThieves |
i wonder how much money he'll pump in before he gives up |
02:44 |
ThickAsThieves |
ha i just went to check twitter |
02:44 |
ThickAsThieves |
and see mp doge tweet |
02:44 |
mircea_popescu |
https://twitter.com/maxkeiser/status/434787967203160065 |
02:44 |
assbot |
123! |
02:44 |
ozbot |
Twitter / maxkeiser: Feels like a #maxcoin buy-program ... |
02:44 |
cads |
"An alternative cryptocurrency disrupting the already rather disrupting crypto market. MaxCoin Donations: mPQERLaEVcj1cMSMX5tyCcCdBeZCkm6GEK " |
02:44 |
cazalla |
speaking of doge, it was on aussie tv - http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-02-13/the-new-aussie-crypto-currency-dogecoin-gives/5259088 |
02:44 |
cads |
yeah yeah buddy |
02:44 |
ThickAsThieves |
jesus |
02:44 |
ThickAsThieves |
he said that? |
02:44 |
ThickAsThieves |
ugh |
02:44 |
copumpkin |
okay, that was quite the movie |
02:45 |
cads |
youre just trying to disrupt my wallet |
02:45 |
mircea_popescu |
dis rupting... |
02:46 |
BingoBoingo |
Maliciously rupturing? |
02:46 |
BingoBoingo |
Is Maxcoin a hernia? |
02:46 |
ThickAsThieves |
malleable anusactions |
02:46 |
cads |
Ah so when were prophets ever anything but shysters |
02:46 |
cads |
max has his followers |
02:47 |
cads |
aka chumps |
02:47 |
cads |
the only bad thing is I did not do it |
02:47 |
cads |
sad sad |
02:48 |
ThickAsThieves |
surely you can use a better name |
02:48 |
ThickAsThieves |
here i have one |
02:48 |
ThickAsThieves |
maximillions |
02:48 |
cads |
cadscoin |
02:50 |
cads |
Max Keiser @maxkeiser 10h |
02:50 |
cads |
Financial regulators in US/UK and elsewhere want Bitcoin to stoop to their level, but it can't: it's not built that way. |
02:50 |
cads |
HAHAHAHA |
02:50 |
cads |
this guy is awesome |
02:51 |
cads |
this is a shyster and a hustler |
02:51 |
ThickAsThieves |
lol he also says "Saturday nights on Twitter a bit like streets of Paris in mid-August; nothing but drunks, homeless fools and drooling freaks." |
02:51 |
cads |
"America's Most Outrageous Political Pundit" |
02:51 |
ThickAsThieves |
on a saturday night |
02:51 |
cads |
?REAAAALLLY?!" |
02:52 |
cads |
ThickAsThieves: lol |
02:53 |
mircea_popescu |
max cads ? |
02:53 |
mircea_popescu |
i say do not despair. |
02:53 |
mircea_popescu |
you have a future in like nascar. |
02:54 |
Duffer1 |
oh snap |
02:56 |
ThickAsThieves |
you could find an acronym too |
02:56 |
ThickAsThieves |
like CADS |
02:56 |
ThickAsThieves |
currency and deposit system |
02:56 |
ThickAsThieves |
or such |
02:58 |
cads |
but I'm not sure how long |
02:58 |
ThickAsThieves |
the bet exists |
02:58 |
cads |
of course |
02:58 |
ThickAsThieves |
pretty much |
02:58 |
ThickAsThieves |
http://bitbet.us/bet/621/any-altcoin-will-surpass-litecoin-in-market-capitalization/ |
02:58 |
ozbot |
BitBet - Any altcoin will surpass Litecoin in market capitalization |
02:58 |
benkay |
"start out crazy long shots, end up nailbiters" |
02:59 |
cads |
http://bitbet.us/bet/687/pussy-riot-to-announce-tour-dates-before-feb/ |
02:59 |
ozbot |
BitBet - Pussy Riot to announce tour dates before Feb 15th |
02:59 |
benkay |
there's some money in that dump |
02:59 |
cads |
ahaha |
02:59 |
benkay |
er, pump |
02:59 |
cads |
I dunno if there will be any touring for pussy riot |
02:59 |
ThickAsThieves |
there's like a legion of em no? |
02:59 |
cads |
like 5 |
03:00 |
cads |
that just kicked out the two members that actually did time for the group |
03:00 |
cads |
because they want to remain an anonymous collective if criminals |
03:00 |
mircea_popescu |
tit envy ? |
03:00 |
cads |
of* |
03:00 |
mircea_popescu |
some of the chicks actually had nice tits |
03:01 |
cads |
I dunno, political suicide in either case imo |
03:01 |
ThickAsThieves |
clit envy |
03:01 |
mircea_popescu |
sadly, they were visibly stupid and never got promoted much |
03:01 |
ThickAsThieves |
there was the pretty one, the lesbian one, and the frizzy mommy |
03:01 |
ThickAsThieves |
a regular Destinys Child in the making |
03:02 |
cads |
I mean they could have gone around the world singing "Virgin Mary, put Putin away" and people would have loved it |
03:02 |
cads |
and the world would heap even more pressure and loathing on russia |
03:02 |
cads |
maybe they felt this would mean nothing |
03:02 |
mircea_popescu |
wait, is the pussy riot the ukrainian bunch or the russian bunch ? |
03:02 |
ThickAsThieves |
russian |
03:03 |
cads |
remember the russian girls that got arrested for holding an illegal concert on the stairs of the orthodox church |
03:04 |
mircea_popescu |
http://theaerogram.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/mw.voice_.fb_.jpg |
03:04 |
ThickAsThieves |
Femen stole our voice, so we only write on signs now |
03:05 |
mircea_popescu |
also stole their tits. |
03:05 |
mircea_popescu |
that'd have been way better. |
03:05 |
mircea_popescu |
"Femen stole our tits, so we have to take it in the ass now" |
03:05 |
mircea_popescu |
"It hurts." |
03:06 |
ThickAsThieves |
Our rights have been "impacted" |
03:07 |
mircea_popescu |
hahaha |
03:07 |
ThickAsThieves |
https://www.tradingview.com/x/3sJjjkXD/ |
03:08 |
mircea_popescu |
subtle proctological jokes, an -assets specialty. |
03:10 |
cads |
ThickAsThieves: I love how us bitcoin analysts use such powerful technical indicators as... rocket ships :) |
03:12 |
mircea_popescu |
rocketsheep! |
03:12 |
cads |
although I won't doubt its persuasive power |
03:12 |
cads |
for I felt it |
03:12 |
cads |
;) |
03:12 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.123925 = 0.4957 BTC [-] {2} |
03:14 |
cads |
oh you guys do know that at one point english writing spelled the S sound with an F |
03:14 |
cads |
Hence "Femen stole our voice" |
03:14 |
cads |
is a naughty statement |
03:15 |
Namworld |
A friend of a friend wants to film me eating one of the hottest peppers in the world. If I don't die, he'll try it himself. What? |
03:15 |
Namworld |
Guess it can't be too bad. |
03:16 |
Namworld |
Sounds like fun. |
03:16 |
cads |
femen is a feminist group waging things such as a "topless jihad" |
03:17 |
cads |
Namworld: your friend is an evil bastard |
03:17 |
cads |
since I'm an evil bastard I encourage you to follow his heed! |
03:17 |
mircea_popescu |
semen ftole our fanny ? |
03:17 |
Namworld |
No. Me and my friends are evil bastards. I'll act like it's nothing and then we'll see his reaction. |
03:18 |
cads |
semen stole our voice. all we could make was gargling sounds |
03:18 |
mircea_popescu |
omfg. |
03:18 |
mircea_popescu |
dystopia : semen actually renders women mute. |
03:18 |
mircea_popescu |
some are happily and thus quietly married |
03:18 |
mircea_popescu |
the rest are feminists. |
03:18 |
mircea_popescu |
~ fin ~ |
03:18 |
Namworld |
I already tasted stuff ranked ~1 million on the Scoville scale without flinching. |
03:19 |
Namworld |
I'll make it look like it's nothing. |
03:19 |
cads |
Namworld: is there any way you can license the video for distribution to -assets? |
03:20 |
cads |
also your bastard friend's wimpy reaction :D |
03:20 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo once btc goes up enough i guess you'll have to graduate from pens to peppers. |
03:20 |
Namworld |
The guy asked my friend because he needed someone to try before him. My friend proposed me, because he thought it would be fun. =P |
03:21 |
Namworld |
It was my understanding the guy wanted to put it on youtube. |
03:21 |
mircea_popescu |
so none of you have girlfriends ? |
03:21 |
cads |
http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/infocus/femen040413/s_f01_65431732.jpg |
03:21 |
Namworld |
I don't, mircea. |
03:22 |
Duffer1 |
>.< |
03:22 |
mircea_popescu |
cads that guy looks like the vagina dentata bit his finger. |
03:22 |
mircea_popescu |
should we call spiral bacterial or w/e it was ? |
03:22 |
cads |
his expression is hilarious |
03:22 |
Namworld |
lol cads |
03:24 |
Namworld |
I'll keep you updated, cads |
03:26 |
cads |
http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/infocus/femen040413/s_f15_65342447.jpg |
03:26 |
cads |
hell yea! it looks like this girl just uppercutted the fuck out of this old man |
03:27 |
cads |
Truth: "A man kicks a topless Femen activist, as she raises her fist to protest against Islamists in front of the Great Mosque of Paris" |
03:27 |
cads |
I like the original interpretation |
03:29 |
cads |
it might be self selection bias but I notice none of these topless warriors are ugly - they're mostly slim and perky |
03:29 |
cads |
http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2013/04/femen-stages-a-topless-jihad/100487/ |
03:29 |
ozbot |
Femen Stages a 'Topless Jihad' - In Focus - The Atlantic |
03:30 |
cads |
this officer looks like he's seen some shit and this takes the cake 15 |
03:30 |
cads |
A man kicks a topless Femen activist, as she raises her fist to protest against Islamists in front of the Great Mosque of Paris |
03:30 |
cads |
err |
03:30 |
cads |
wrong paste buffer |
03:30 |
cads |
http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/infocus/femen040413/s_f23_0RTXY7ZU.jpg |
03:31 |
cads |
one does not belong: http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/infocus/femen040413/s_f30_65431623.jpg |
03:33 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00086877 = 1.1294 BTC [-] |
03:36 |
mircea_popescu |
the fatty or the titless ? |
03:36 |
cads |
hey, has anyone studied Kolmogorov's classic "Foundations of Probability Theory"? |
03:36 |
cazalla |
at least they are against mudslimes |
03:37 |
mircea_popescu |
hahaha |
03:39 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: Maybe. |
03:42 |
cads |
hmm |
03:43 |
cads |
"[..]"attention bonds," small warranties that some information will not be a waste of the recipient's time placed into escrow at the time of sending[..]" |
03:43 |
cads |
"receivers could cash in their bonds to signal to the sender that a given communication was a waste of their time or elect not to cash them in to signal that more communication would be welcome." |
03:44 |
cads |
this is a proposed system for reducing spam |
03:44 |
cads |
can we do this with bitcoin? |
03:46 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9484 @ 0.00087274 = 8.2771 BTC [+] {2} |
03:46 |
mircea_popescu |
so these are the stamps basically ? |
03:46 |
cads |
If you wanna comment on my blog, or drop a message in my website's inbox, say, you must give to an escrow |
03:47 |
mircea_popescu |
mail server automatically rejects all email that doesn't come with btc. |
03:47 |
cads |
then at any time I can exercise the right to claim the credits to punish spammers and trolls |
03:47 |
cads |
I dare not claim the credits of any valued readers |
03:47 |
cads |
lest my readership diminish |
03:49 |
cads |
it would be harder to implement for email but much easier for personal websites |
03:50 |
mircea_popescu |
the trilema credits system seems quite sufficient really. |
03:54 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9079 @ 0.00086793 = 7.8799 BTC [-] {4} |
03:56 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00086659 = 5.6328 BTC [-] {2} |
04:01 |
benkay |
never put into the blockchain that which you can handle on your own machines. |
04:03 |
jurov |
http://xman.idnes.cz/foto.aspx?r=&c=A140206_105614_xman-styl_fro&foto=FRO51112d_Z_profimedia_0183244550.jpg for bait lovers |
04:07 |
cads |
drunk white redneck at an intersection next to a car full of black teenagers playing their music loud. Man starts arguing with the kids about the music, gets out of car. Argument ensues, man takes out gun an fires into the car. one kid is dead, the others uninjured. |
04:08 |
cads |
at trial the man's defense is that the kid menaced him with a gun. No gun is found at the scene and the defense argues that it is the state's burden to prove the gun was there. |
04:08 |
cads |
The jury convicts him on 3 counts of second degree attempted murder for the passengers |
04:09 |
cads |
and a count of firing into a vehicle |
04:09 |
cads |
but cannot come to a decision on the first degree murder charge against kid |
04:09 |
cads |
the judge instructs them that they may choose a lesser charge - 2nd degree, or manslaughter |
04:10 |
cads |
but they hang and a mistrial is declared |
04:10 |
Namworld |
Whut? |
04:11 |
cads |
this is a case for a shooting that happening in florida while the zimmerman trial/circus was going on |
04:11 |
cads |
a man named micheal dunn |
04:11 |
cads |
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fatlantablackstar.com%2F2014%2F02%2F11%2Fprosecution-rests-case-murder-trial-michael-dunn-accused-killer-jordan-davis%2F&h=0&w=0&sz=1&tbnid=8sXFi_avG17bvM&tbnh=189&tbnw=267&zoom=1&docid=87r38dkSEbXN7M&ei=1YAAU6SuHMTAkQfgqYCoDQ&ved=0CAgQsCUoAg |
04:12 |
cads |
slimy looking redneck fuck if there was one... |
04:12 |
cazalla |
man needs a purple heart |
04:12 |
Namworld |
Looks like media can't cover stuff properly once again? |
04:13 |
cads |
Namworld: what you mean you're in the US? |
04:13 |
cazalla |
cads: you mean where they take a mugshot, which is likely the white mans worst day alive juxaposed with the nigras best day? |
04:13 |
cazalla |
too drunk to spell :\ |
04:13 |
Namworld |
nope |
04:13 |
Namworld |
I'm not. |
04:13 |
cads |
fuck yourself cazalla of course they |
04:13 |
cads |
do |
04:13 |
cads |
what sort of stupid question is that |
04:14 |
Namworld |
All medias would do that. |
04:15 |
cads |
in the zimmerman trial you saw juxtapositions of zimmerman looking all wellkempt next to trayvon looking like a thug on one media source |
04:15 |
cazalla |
he was a thug |
04:15 |
cads |
and pictures of trayvon a couple years younger looking angelic, next to zimmerman looking like a pile of crap |
04:15 |
cads |
every black kid is a thug |
04:16 |
cads |
Namworld: you think this is international news? |
04:16 |
cads |
I don't see what would have made it hard to find him guilty of manslaughter |
04:17 |
cazalla |
cads: he came from a broken home, was wandering the streets at night, dealing drugs, it was only a matter of time until it happened |
04:17 |
benkay |
i kinda begin to see why satoshi banged the client like he did |
04:17 |
benkay |
banged the client *out* |
04:17 |
cads |
I also wonder if the other kids in the car would have had opportunity to hide the weapon |
04:17 |
cazalla |
not that i care for zimmerman but given the media made it a black vs white issue and that black on white violence is the real issue, i can't help but smile to see him 6 foot under |
04:17 |
cads |
if /my/ shooter just got killed |
04:18 |
cads |
the least I can do for him is take his tool |
04:18 |
cads |
and hide it from the cops |
04:18 |
cads |
give him some dignity, you know? |
04:18 |
benkay |
asciilifeform, mircea_popescu: odds on the satoshi hoard moving to an unspendable address? |
04:18 |
cazalla |
perhaps they should listen to their music without disturbing the peace of others? |
04:19 |
cazalla |
there is nothing more rude than someone who plays their music within earshot of others and is oblivious to just how poor their taste is |
04:19 |
cads |
cazalla: but listen to yourself blithely say "well maybe they shouldn't annoy people", juxtaposed with the fact that a child was slaughtered. |
04:20 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 579 @ 0.00086704 = 0.502 BTC [+] |
04:20 |
cazalla |
it is what it is |
04:20 |
cads |
if white kids annoyed people and some black dude did the deed what would happen |
04:20 |
cazalla |
it's too late to complain your loud music draws attention after the fact |
04:20 |
Namworld |
I mean zimmerman case was probably too covered vs other cases. |
04:21 |
Namworld |
I'm not in the US and I've heard about it. |
04:21 |
cazalla |
zimmerman was just a cheap shot at whites, anti-racism meaning anti-white type crap |
04:21 |
cazalla |
the perp need not even be white to make it a black vs white issue these days |
04:22 |
cazalla |
which is why i have little sympathy for shot up black hoodlums, they do a good enough job of killing each other than we don't even need to string them up these days |
04:22 |
cazalla |
(and i think i've had enough port for this evening) |
04:23 |
cads |
so we have racists in the channel? |
04:23 |
cads |
who else? |
04:23 |
cads |
lets take a tally |
04:25 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5418 @ 0.00087293 = 4.7295 BTC [+] |
04:25 |
Namworld |
I'll avoid voicing an opinion on a case I know little about. |
04:26 |
jurov |
ôôseens davout |
04:26 |
jurov |
;;seen davout |
04:26 |
gribble |
davout was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 8 hours, 5 minutes, and 16 seconds ago: <davout> 2015 -> "intern accidentally deletes mpex" |
04:26 |
cads |
the worst part about these cases is when you see these men become heros to these lowbrow whitefuk rednecks here stateside |
04:27 |
cads |
they want to be like zimmerman |
04:27 |
cads |
they CAN'T WAIT to put a slug in a nigger |
04:27 |
cads |
ooooh boy |
04:27 |
cads |
to do that and get away with it |
04:27 |
cads |
it's their drea |
04:27 |
cads |
m |
04:27 |
cads |
don't tell me it wouldn't fucking thrill you, cazalla |
04:28 |
cads |
to kill a little punk pygmy that's threating YOUR life |
04:28 |
mircea_popescu |
if anyone wants to read my poem: |
04:28 |
mircea_popescu |
http://trilema.com/2014/the-letter-third/ |
04:28 |
ozbot |
The Letter Third pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
04:28 |
cazalla |
it's a cheap thrill, i don't really care tbh, it occurs far away from me with people of which there are very few where i reside |
04:28 |
mircea_popescu |
benkay i have no idea. |
04:29 |
cads |
so killing someone to you is a "cheap thrill" |
04:29 |
cads |
but meh, you don't really care about it |
04:29 |
mircea_popescu |
i cant believe that thing is still a topic. srsly ? |
04:29 |
mircea_popescu |
who cares, some guy killed some guy. |
04:29 |
cazalla |
why are you so invested when 2 idiots find themselves in a situation no sensible person would, where 1 of them will die |
04:31 |
cads |
I mean ideally both idiots would be punished - one is already dead, and the other needs to get his. Not for some moral reason. Only to deter further idiots. |
04:32 |
cazalla |
why are you not up in arms about the countless nigras being shot up by other nigras, why are you so focused on zimmerman? because he is portrayed as white and it's in the media? i think that's the only reason |
04:32 |
cads |
when a black person shoots a black person he goes to jail |
04:32 |
mircea_popescu |
cads or maybe he should get a reward for punishing one idiot. |
04:33 |
cads |
these are children we're talking about. |
04:33 |
mircea_popescu |
you know a black idiot being punished for being an idiot isn't therefore being punished for being black. |
04:33 |
mircea_popescu |
apparently children can die as well as adults. |
04:33 |
cads |
better |
04:33 |
mircea_popescu |
probably even better. |
04:33 |
cads |
without leaving a trace |
04:33 |
cazalla |
teenagers aren't children |
04:35 |
cads |
legally a teenager is a child until 17 or 18 |
04:35 |
cazalla |
you're being facetious now |
04:36 |
cads |
true |
04:36 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29050 @ 0.00086915 = 25.2488 BTC [-] {2} |
04:36 |
cads |
I actually consider even 22 year olds to be kids |
04:36 |
mircea_popescu |
teenager is not defined legally afaik. |
04:36 |
mircea_popescu |
cads pasty ass white kids are children at 39. |
04:36 |
cads |
because they still think like fucking kids |
04:36 |
mircea_popescu |
kids that grow up on the streets are adults at 12. |
04:37 |
cads |
if that's true try talking to one about a 401k |
04:37 |
mircea_popescu |
methinks his 401k will beat your dad's 401k. |
04:37 |
mircea_popescu |
hands down. |
04:37 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 60 @ 0.00297 = 0.1782 BTC [-] |
04:37 |
cazalla |
cads my point is this, a bunch of black teens driving around in an 82 corolla (thinking it's a 64 impala) blasting some rap music is going to attract the wrong type of attention, white man was stupid to react to it but this is how the world works |
04:37 |
mircea_popescu |
a particular facility to being taken advantage by the government is no particular qualification of maturity. |
04:37 |
cads |
my dad works 10 hour shifts |
04:37 |
cads |
he's too hardy for a 401k |
04:38 |
mircea_popescu |
well then you see my point. |
04:38 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 240 @ 0.00290146 = 0.6964 BTC [-] {6} |
04:38 |
cads |
cazalla: that's not making a point, that's the standard argument |
04:39 |
cazalla |
well quit suggesting they are innocent and share no blame in their own death |
04:39 |
mircea_popescu |
original sean! |
04:39 |
cazalla |
it's like women who dress slutty and cry rape, you can't step into a lions cage and then complain he ate you |
04:40 |
mircea_popescu |
what if she was dressed like a slut specifically for me ? |
04:40 |
mircea_popescu |
do you now have license to help yourself too ? |
04:41 |
cazalla |
if you extend that license to me, yes |
04:41 |
mircea_popescu |
but i do not. |
04:41 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5000 @ 0.00022187 = 1.1094 BTC [-] {13} |
04:41 |
mircea_popescu |
that'd be a sight, rapist obtaining prior permission from the male owner of the slut. |
04:41 |
mircea_popescu |
"yoiur honor, this wasn't rape. i asked some guy if it's ok." |
04:41 |
cads |
add a transaction to the mix and you have a pimp |
04:41 |
cazalla |
if you grant permission but it's rape, surely you are not the owner |
04:42 |
mircea_popescu |
incidentally, i hear that's why the trezor kid got shot. |
04:42 |
mircea_popescu |
some jew guy made a pie, the black kid ate the pie |
04:42 |
mircea_popescu |
the jew went "omg wtf you ate my pie for!" |
04:42 |
mircea_popescu |
and the nigger went "dude it smelled good! if you didn't want me to eat it |
04:42 |
mircea_popescu |
you shouldn't have made it smell good." |
04:43 |
mircea_popescu |
and so the jew got angry and shot him/ |
04:43 |
mircea_popescu |
and he got acquitted because the jury found the arguments unsavory. |
04:43 |
cads |
lesson is that women just need to start shooting their rapists |
04:43 |
mircea_popescu |
cads wouldn't that be rape ? |
04:43 |
mircea_popescu |
in that you know... the guy was trying to shoot it up her ? |
04:44 |
mircea_popescu |
they can, and they do. |
04:44 |
cazalla |
cads are you a sjw? |
04:44 |
cads |
sjw? |
04:44 |
mircea_popescu |
they just need an environment in which they feel safe and secure. |
04:44 |
cazalla |
social justice warrior |
04:45 |
mircea_popescu |
nah he's just a math geek. |
04:45 |
mircea_popescu |
they're a little touched. |
04:45 |
cads |
I do like to harass bigots though |
04:46 |
cads |
it's my own form of bigotry |
04:46 |
cazalla |
i was just about to ask that.. why are you bigotted against bigots |
04:46 |
mircea_popescu |
you mean you're intolerant with intolerance ? |
04:46 |
chetty |
bah you guys got no clue about rape |
04:46 |
cazalla |
btw cads, i'm fine with black people i have an acquataince with, it's the ones i don't that i'm suspect of, more so than whites i don't know |
04:47 |
mircea_popescu |
lol chetty epic statement. |
04:47 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla youj know that's exactly what xenophobia is ? |
04:47 |
cads |
you think that if a black person is walking 40 feet behind me on a sidewalk, or if a white person is walking 40 feet behind me on a sidewalk, I don't prefer to be in the latter situation? |
04:47 |
cads |
even a black person prefers that |
04:47 |
mircea_popescu |
what srslky ?!@ |
04:47 |
cads |
err |
04:47 |
cads |
wait a second |
04:47 |
cads |
I mean I prefer |
04:48 |
cazalla |
i am xenophobic |
04:48 |
cazalla |
but that doesn't bother me |
04:48 |
mircea_popescu |
i am honestly not getting you two. |
04:48 |
chetty |
rape has nothing to do with sex - you confuse the issues |
04:48 |
mircea_popescu |
it seriously makes no difference to me. wtf difference does it make ? |
04:48 |
cads |
chetty: I later realized that the women are also physically threatened and harmed/killed during rape |
04:49 |
cads |
(I was a kid when I wondered that) |
04:49 |
mircea_popescu |
hence my comment, re "they can and they do, provided they have a safe environment in which to enjoy it" |
04:49 |
cazalla |
what difference does it make? |
04:49 |
cazalla |
or is that directed at cads |
04:49 |
mircea_popescu |
at both of you. |
04:50 |
mircea_popescu |
i noticed this before, too, us people are fucking weird. |
04:50 |
cazalla |
i don't like foreigners coming into my country and upsetting the WASP ratio |
04:50 |
cads |
we'll argue for the joy of arguing |
04:50 |
cazalla |
if i get to know them on a 1 to 1 level, that's OK |
04:50 |
cads |
we're not particularly mean to each other even when we're insulting :D |
04:50 |
mircea_popescu |
i get in a bus, i sit with the black people, white people are all giving me wtf is this ?!?! looks |
04:50 |
cads |
cazalla: right, that's how I am too |
04:51 |
mircea_popescu |
black people are all omg this guy is like dangerous. |
04:51 |
cazalla |
i'd happily chant for the random black person to be shot, shout obscentities and then invite the black neighbour over for a bbq same day |
04:51 |
cazalla |
we don't really have black people in australia anyway |
04:51 |
mircea_popescu |
you're nuts already. |
04:51 |
mircea_popescu |
the only sane conclusion is that you've paid about 100x too much attention to this race thing. |
04:51 |
mircea_popescu |
perhaps 1000x |
04:51 |
cazalla |
yeah, reading too much /pol/ lately |
04:51 |
cazalla |
+ drinking |
04:52 |
mircea_popescu |
da fuck difference does it make, even if you were in fucking somalia |
04:52 |
mircea_popescu |
most dudes there are you know, boring derps. |
04:52 |
cazalla |
yes i'm sure everyone is friendly to strangers in mogadishu |
04:52 |
cads |
cazalla: the thing about that is that is that's really some fuckshit, that's like having a gay friend over for a barbeque on saturday and secretly picketing with "GOD HATES FAGS" signs in sunday |
04:52 |
cazalla |
cads: that's me |
04:53 |
cads |
who would your friend think you were if he knew? |
04:53 |
mircea_popescu |
i'd expect he appreciates the prime trollage. |
04:53 |
mircea_popescu |
wouldn't you ? |
04:53 |
cads |
if you don't really give a fuck what you fag ass friend thinks, what kind of friend can he be? |
04:53 |
mircea_popescu |
maybe scribble a Why So Srs on the back of the sign just in case you run into people you know. |
04:53 |
cads |
hahaha |
04:53 |
cazalla |
cads: because he isn't a stranger |
04:54 |
mircea_popescu |
a great friend, inasmuch as you don't give a shit what he thinks on retarded topics |
04:54 |
mircea_popescu |
it will encourage him to spend more time thinking of better stuff. |
04:54 |
mircea_popescu |
win-win |
04:54 |
cads |
what I'm saying is that how would he feel about his friend being part of a cause that is out to menace him and people like him? |
04:54 |
mircea_popescu |
menace my foot. |
04:54 |
cazalla |
cads: case in point, my wife has a gay friend + indian (immigrant) to boot! i don't like degenerate faggots or immigrants but i don't mind him coming over for dinner, holding my son etc, strange huh |
04:54 |
mircea_popescu |
god gives cancer to people he doesn't hate, too. |
04:54 |
cads |
cazalla: that's not strange, that's human |
04:55 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla that's only because he's not fingering your son yet. |
04:55 |
cads |
there's that, neh :P |
04:55 |
mircea_popescu |
(that you know about) |
04:55 |
cazalla |
mircea_popescu: i keep a close eye on him, don't you worry about that |
04:55 |
mircea_popescu |
good thinking. |
04:55 |
cazalla |
he is never with my son unsupervised |
04:55 |
mircea_popescu |
just to be sure, |
04:55 |
cazalla |
and baby monitor is good excuse to listen to all conversation going on in the loungeroom anyway |
04:55 |
mircea_popescu |
you should finger him at all times. |
04:55 |
cads |
make sure you get the first impression |
04:56 |
mircea_popescu |
impaction. |
04:56 |
cazalla |
gay friend or son? |
04:56 |
cads |
the fatherly touch |
04:56 |
mircea_popescu |
it just struck me about 500 people will be reading this log sunday morning with a hangover |
04:56 |
cazalla |
baby shits everywhere so it isn't a problem |
04:56 |
mircea_popescu |
and decide they really need new friends. |
04:56 |
punkman |
what kind of trollbox did I walk into |
04:56 |
mircea_popescu |
lmao |
04:57 |
cads |
The... horror. |
04:57 |
cazalla |
i've had a bottle of tawny port so i'm just about done |
04:57 |
cads |
eh cazalla you're arrite |
04:57 |
cads |
mixed up white man |
04:57 |
cads |
but arrite |
04:57 |
punkman |
no hangover, but drinking shall commence in 5 min |
04:57 |
cads |
and counding. |
04:57 |
cazalla |
still suss on you cads |
04:58 |
cazalla |
a bit too sjw-ish for me |
04:58 |
cads |
I offer something SJWs can't |
04:58 |
cazalla |
anyone who runs to the defense of unnamed blacks and supposed rape victims is suspect to me |
04:58 |
cads |
redemption. |
04:58 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15300 @ 0.00086676 = 13.2614 BTC [-] |
04:58 |
cads |
and freedom from sin! |
04:59 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla maybe he just hasn't gotten laid in a really long time |
04:59 |
mircea_popescu |
white knighting is in white man's genes. |
04:59 |
cazalla |
maybe i haven't.. fucking kid and breast feeding :\ |
04:59 |
cazalla |
i swear to god i never knew breast feeding could fuck up a good pair of tits in 5 weeks |
04:59 |
mircea_popescu |
how's getting laid prevent you from breastfeeding ? |
04:59 |
mircea_popescu |
there's other positions than doggy style you know |
05:00 |
cazalla |
"don't touch them" "they are too sensitive" "no i'm still sore from pregnancy for sex" "i'm tired" etc etc |
05:00 |
mircea_popescu |
spank her |
05:00 |
cazalla |
nah, gonna go to a gentlemans room soon |
05:00 |
cads |
and spank something else |
05:00 |
mircea_popescu |
what's the point of having gentlemen's rooms in australia ? |
05:00 |
cazalla |
no-one wants saggy tits with sour milk stained shirt :\ |
05:00 |
mircea_popescu |
for tourists like ? |
05:01 |
cazalla |
although our son seems to love em |
05:01 |
cazalla |
nfi, never been to one |
05:01 |
mircea_popescu |
no wonder. |
05:01 |
cazalla |
we had plenty of sex prior to pregnancy and birth |
05:01 |
cazalla |
cads: he has blue eyes and blonde hair btw, couldn't be prouder |
05:02 |
mircea_popescu |
from an indian guy ?! |
05:02 |
mircea_popescu |
that must be rare. |
05:02 |
cazalla |
lol |
05:02 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00087293 = 11.7846 BTC [+] |
05:04 |
cads |
a handsome young Aryan I'm sure |
05:04 |
cads |
cazalla: you're a new dad? congrats |
05:04 |
cazalla |
ty cads |
05:05 |
jurov |
congrats, too. but don't spoil him :) |
05:05 |
mircea_popescu |
well maybe a little. |
05:05 |
cazalla |
that'll depend on bitcoin over the years to come |
05:06 |
cads |
:D |
05:07 |
cazalla |
i'll be sure to tell him to check his bitcoin privilege |
05:07 |
cazalla |
anyway, i'm off to bed |
05:07 |
cazalla |
it is interesting that when sober, i only lurk/read |
05:08 |
cazalla |
few drinks and i spew all sorts of bullshit :\ |
05:08 |
cazalla |
typica fkn aussies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmL72sgVdAQ |
05:13 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32887 @ 0.00087355 = 28.7284 BTC [+] {2} |
05:17 |
cads |
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/climate_desk/2014/02/internet_troll_personality_study_machiavellianism_narcissism_psychopathy.html |
05:17 |
ozbot |
Internet troll personality study: Machiavellianism, narcissism, psychopathy, sadism. |
05:19 |
cads |
heck, I have all of the dark tetrad |
05:20 |
cads |
and you know the best trolls honestly think they're not trolling |
05:22 |
cads |
blah the article blatantly ignores the self reporting bias in requiring trolls to identify as trolls |
05:23 |
jurov |
troll and proud |
05:23 |
cads |
but it's significant that self identifying trolls still scored horribly |
05:24 |
cads |
so while some trolls may have hiden themselves the real blatant ones decided "fuck, lets troll this test" |
05:24 |
jurov |
but really, do any non-narcissistic, well-aligned, non-machhiavellistic people exist? |
05:25 |
jurov |
afaik if they do, then they only lurk |
05:26 |
cads |
I dunnno I think trolls are free riders |
05:27 |
cads |
if you're a sadist you need to pay for your entertainment like the rest us |
05:27 |
cads |
trolls will be ejected from the dialog space soon. |
05:27 |
cads |
and will come back with more refined tactics |
05:27 |
cads |
as I am. |
05:27 |
cads |
we shall evolve |
05:27 |
cads |
we shall revise. |
05:27 |
cads |
we are legion ;) |
05:28 |
jurov |
since when the sadists must pay? |
05:36 |
mircea_popescu |
<cads> so while some trolls may have hiden themselves the real blatant ones decided "fuck, lets troll this test" << what the fuck does slate know. |
05:37 |
mircea_popescu |
debating issues that are important to you, chatting with others, making new friends, trolling others, and other. |
05:37 |
assbot |
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05:37 |
mircea_popescu |
most fucktarded set of options ever. |
05:37 |
cads |
I have sent people to shock websites for the lulz. |
05:37 |
cads |
I like to troll people in forums or the comments section of websites. |
05:37 |
cads |
The more beautiful and pure a thing is, the more satisfying it is to corrupt. |
05:37 |
mircea_popescu |
"hi r retarded" "hi i am 12 and where does dildo go ?" "sanity" and "other" |
05:38 |
cads |
some people actually agree with such statements |
05:38 |
mircea_popescu |
you sound like the something awful crowd. |
05:38 |
cads |
sick people :P |
05:38 |
cads |
like us! :D |
05:38 |
cads |
those three lines I posted were from the slate article |
05:38 |
cads |
as examples of troll sentiments |
05:39 |
mircea_popescu |
o i |
05:39 |
mircea_popescu |
c |
05:39 |
cads |
I've been sending people to goatse.cx since I was 13 |
05:39 |
cads |
tubgirl, etc. |
05:39 |
cads |
not lots of people, mostly friends |
05:39 |
cads |
and irc peers |
05:40 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3961 @ 0.00087357 = 3.4602 BTC [+] |
05:40 |
cads |
I like trolling particularly bad arguments on, god help me, facebook and youtube comments |
05:41 |
cads |
and who doesn't love corrupting the innocent? |
05:41 |
mircea_popescu |
i trolled a guy right here, and he enjoyed it. |
05:41 |
mircea_popescu |
your weaksauce sjwing not as much. |
05:42 |
cads |
beh fuck your guys' face with y'all white people acronyms |
05:42 |
cads |
rednecks |
05:42 |
cads |
;) |
05:42 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
05:42 |
mircea_popescu |
wait, you're black too ? |
05:43 |
cads |
no |
05:43 |
mircea_popescu |
this place's really gone downhill. |
05:45 |
mircea_popescu |
"Once upon a time, there was an enchanted prince, who ruled the land beyond the wobbles. One day, he discovered a spot on his face. Foolishly, he ignored it...and three years later, he died of cancer. The spot, however, flourished, and soon set out to seek its fortune." |
05:50 |
cads |
"The game is essentially an abstract synthesis of all arts and sciences. It proceeds by players making deep connections between seemingly unrelated topics." |
05:50 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform so orlov finally found costa rica huh |
05:51 |
assbot |
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05:54 |
assbot |
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05:57 |
Namworld |
In Canada, people don't seem to care about immigrants. They all mix like it doesn't matter. I overheard someone at my old job say how he liked it so much more here than in the US because people weren't looking at him and less discrimination or something. |
05:57 |
Namworld |
Yet it doesn't seem like there's much difference between US and Canada to me in the culture. |
05:58 |
cads |
well there's a big difference even across the US |
05:59 |
Namworld |
Yes, guess it depends on the area. |
06:00 |
Namworld |
I'm in Montreal. I suppose that has some good on what I experience. |
06:01 |
cads |
wanna see a heat map of the geotagged tweets in the US using the word "nigger" in a negative sentiment? |
06:01 |
Namworld |
Sounds like fun |
06:01 |
cads |
http://cdn.frontpagemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/goh.png |
06:01 |
cads |
the data was normalized according to total twitter traffic |
06:01 |
cads |
lemme find the actual interactive map |
06:01 |
cads |
that lets you see the geography of all sorts of slurs |
06:02 |
Namworld |
Would be nice to have a population map too to put that in perspective. |
06:02 |
mircea_popescu |
fascinating : exactly the areas where black people live. |
06:02 |
Namworld |
That data too |
06:02 |
mircea_popescu |
cads how would you trust the negative sentiment detection ? |
06:02 |
cads |
http://users.humboldt.edu/mstephens/hate/hate_map.html# |
06:02 |
ozbot |
Hate Map |
06:02 |
Namworld |
Overlayed |
06:03 |
cads |
mircea_popescu: they paid students to manually code the statements for sentiment |
06:03 |
cads |
a little flaky but much better than automated sentiment detection, imo |
06:03 |
mircea_popescu |
fo sho |
06:03 |
mircea_popescu |
unless trolling |
06:03 |
cads |
right |
06:04 |
cads |
hopefully they blinded the kids enough to the geographic location that at least the overall shape is right |
06:04 |
cads |
mircea_popescu: actually |
06:04 |
cads |
the hate is /outside/ where blacks live |
06:05 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah it's at the north border of the space acually |
06:05 |
cads |
in little pods that correspond to high class suburbs or medium density rural |
06:05 |
cads |
and it drops off dramatically in the west, even for populated centers |
06:06 |
cads |
ie, LA has little proportion of the twitter bandwidth dedicated to "nigger" |
06:06 |
mircea_popescu |
californians lie. |
06:07 |
mircea_popescu |
your penny an hour students simple aren't sufficiently intellectually perverse to pick up on californian negative sentiment |
06:07 |
cads |
ahaah |
06:08 |
cads |
it would be hard to false positive a negative example of "nigger" :D |
06:09 |
cads |
there are a couple slurs in there like gook that are distributed in ways that seem completely arbitrary |
06:09 |
mircea_popescu |
i doubt you missed my point. |
06:10 |
cads |
I thought it was a jibe :) |
06:10 |
cads |
you're saying racist sentiment from white californians simply won't use the word 'nigger' |
06:10 |
cads |
which I'd grant you ten fold :D |
06:11 |
cads |
and indeed, this test has no way to protect against that |
06:12 |
cads |
hehe, the redneck that's been arguing against me on this one will enjoy your theory |
06:12 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
06:14 |
cads |
maybe it's better to be surrounded by idiots that yell slurs than by smooth talking devils in suits |
06:15 |
cads |
one can take the latter group as chumps |
06:15 |
cads |
and lead them around by nose rings |
06:15 |
cads |
maybe not so for californians! |
06:15 |
cads |
err |
06:15 |
cads |
former group! |
06:15 |
mircea_popescu |
my experience with racism is that it's usually the problem of the people concerned with it. |
06:16 |
cads |
people affected by it mostly don't understand how it affects them |
06:16 |
mircea_popescu |
mno. people who spend a lot of time thinking about it end up being fucking weird. |
06:16 |
mircea_popescu |
people who couldn't care less generally aren't a problem to anyone. |
06:17 |
mircea_popescu |
i would say that your average "sensitive" idiot is about twice as noxious as your average "racist". |
06:17 |
cads |
I do like to bait them :P |
06:17 |
assbot |
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06:18 |
mircea_popescu |
me too, but i kinda enjoy the first set more. |
06:19 |
cads |
keep in mind I and my brothers grew up here with a crappy accent as the cabbage eating weird kids that got picked on for our religion and culture |
06:20 |
cads |
remember romania is the mexico of europe to americans. |
06:20 |
cads |
so I've got some well placed hate for bigots and I'm okay with that for now |
06:20 |
mircea_popescu |
lol derp. |
06:21 |
mircea_popescu |
i don't think any us citizen alive today could pick out a romanian from a line-up if his anal virginity depended on it |
06:21 |
chetty |
really? |
06:21 |
mircea_popescu |
and you got picked out for being socially awkward and sexually unconvincing, not for "culture" |
06:21 |
mircea_popescu |
awkwardness is not culture. |
06:22 |
cads |
I'm not talking about in my adolescence, I'm talking about as a kid |
06:22 |
mircea_popescu |
picked on by who ? |
06:24 |
mircea_popescu |
well were they adults or other kids ? |
06:26 |
cads |
just kids and neighborhood bullies really |
06:27 |
mircea_popescu |
so other kids. socially awkward and sexually unconvincing. |
06:27 |
mircea_popescu |
what, you think sexual traits suddenly manifest at 18 ? |
06:27 |
cads |
well obviously socially ackward |
06:28 |
assbot |
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06:28 |
cads |
that's the fucking point, you're acting like people can't fucking treat socially ackward people with some fucking respect |
06:28 |
cads |
and I know that's false |
06:28 |
cads |
since people more or less treat me with respect despite my ackwardness |
06:28 |
mircea_popescu |
they can't. |
06:29 |
mircea_popescu |
the point is to help them overcome their issues. |
06:29 |
mircea_popescu |
this needs incentives. |
06:29 |
mircea_popescu |
"the beatings will continue until morale improves." |
06:31 |
cads |
I mean, a black kid in an all white classroom will be ackward. A boy with a vaganapenis will be ackward. A girl that wears a headdress is going to feel ackward. |
06:31 |
mircea_popescu |
just because people have meanwhile stopped giving a shit about you and your overall health and well being doesn't mean the people that used to care were wrong. |
06:31 |
cads |
why does it have to be an overburdening feeling though? |
06:31 |
mircea_popescu |
it's just meanwhile you live in a different sort of society, which is dispersed and disinterested. |
06:31 |
mircea_popescu |
it doesn't. it's up to them not to be. |
06:33 |
cads |
so by your counsel, would it have been up to the slaves to accept the burden, and would it have been your advice simply improve morale till the situation changes or you're lynched. |
06:33 |
cads |
? |
06:34 |
mircea_popescu |
no useful slave was ever lynched. |
06:34 |
mircea_popescu |
but yes, it is up to whoever to live his life, as his life is, rather than derp about how it should be. |
06:35 |
mircea_popescu |
i get it, everyone's special and dragons and the wrong gender and in the wrong time and insufficiently lottery winning. |
06:35 |
mircea_popescu |
not particularly interesting. |
06:35 |
cads |
so if someone is slandering you do you "derp about how it should be" or do you taking fucking recourse? |
06:35 |
cads |
or do you... "live your life" while your reputation is slandered? |
06:35 |
mircea_popescu |
well you may be inclined to review my record as the most slandered guy in the history of btc :) |
06:36 |
cads |
and take no offense or defense |
06:37 |
Namworld |
Had that in primary, living in the suburbs. Black kid in all white classroom. Had very few black people for the whole school. |
06:37 |
cads |
mircea_popescu: if I ever rape you in an alley one day you will limp back home, paste your asshole back together with some dabs of superglue and then tell no one and seek no revenge. |
06:37 |
Namworld |
Can't seem to recall any awkwardness to it. |
06:37 |
cads |
with that philosophy I can have you asshole when I want. |
06:37 |
mircea_popescu |
maybe i'll shoot you, what. |
06:37 |
cads |
that's the philosophy you want opressed kids to take |
06:37 |
mircea_popescu |
maybe you're the one getting raep'd. |
06:38 |
mircea_popescu |
no, that's just the strawman you find convenient lol |
06:38 |
cads |
well that's my point, you have built in recourse and you know how to exercise it |
06:38 |
mircea_popescu |
so do they, so can they. let them. |
06:38 |
cads |
you say you have it because you deserve it |
06:38 |
cads |
but you have it because you've been handed it |
06:38 |
mircea_popescu |
derp. |
06:38 |
mircea_popescu |
and if i have a business i didn't build that business ? |
06:38 |
mircea_popescu |
thank you obama for bitcoin and handing me mpex. |
06:39 |
mircea_popescu |
i suppose i owe tax nao too right ? |
06:39 |
cads |
you're saying if you were a nigger guinea you would have mpex. |
06:39 |
cads |
gtfo |
06:39 |
mircea_popescu |
i am a romanian in romania dood. |
06:39 |
mircea_popescu |
think it through. |
06:40 |
cads |
right, for the first thing you'd probably have been born in africa. |
06:40 |
cads |
good luck from that start. |
06:40 |
mircea_popescu |
i'd have been pretty much the same born whenever and wherever. |
06:41 |
cads |
born into the family of a destitute mother that couldn't feed you properly the first few years of your life? |
06:41 |
cads |
born into the family that lived in bitter poverty and taught you to take everything you can from the dole? |
06:41 |
mircea_popescu |
what makes you think i coud have been born to a destitute mother that couldn't feed me properly ? |
06:41 |
mircea_popescu |
what, we're equal nao ? |
06:41 |
mircea_popescu |
people aren't interchangeable. |
06:43 |
cads |
the part that really gets me is not that you can't imagine yourself as an average black person, weighted down with the average viral meme load and nonsense beliefs about finance and law and white people and everyone being out to get you |
06:43 |
mircea_popescu |
why am i not an average romanian weighted down with the average viral meme load and nonsense belief romanias get ? |
06:44 |
mircea_popescu |
what, you think blacks invented stupidity or soemthing ? |
06:44 |
cads |
but mostly that you think someone of your talent would get to the same place in life no matter what initial condition |
06:44 |
mircea_popescu |
this is exactly true. |
06:44 |
mircea_popescu |
the derpage about "conditions" is a very weak excuse. |
06:44 |
mircea_popescu |
i dunno who buys it, but judging by how often it needs to be repeated i would guess no one |
06:46 |
cads |
mircea_popescu: because you're not sampled from the sample space of romanians. You're sampled from the sample space of humans. You need to be concerned about the average expected outcome of humans if only because that's essential to collaborative solutions to problems. |
06:46 |
mircea_popescu |
what's the average gender of the human race ? |
06:47 |
mircea_popescu |
you're a clever guy, you know at least the basics of where statistics is meaningfully usable and where it isn't. |
06:50 |
cads |
hrm, is there no revolutionary effort you will have joined simply because you disagree with the way things are for a group of people you care about? |
06:50 |
mircea_popescu |
i have been at the forefront of fucking revolutionary effort lol. |
06:51 |
mircea_popescu |
that's the difference, i speak of things i know, you speak of things you dream and imagine. unflattering as that may sound. |
06:51 |
cads |
yeah that's a criticism I don't take lightly. |
06:52 |
cads |
and you can stop with any further expounding of that line now. |
06:52 |
mircea_popescu |
well, so you ever been in a revolution ? |
06:53 |
mircea_popescu |
and i don't mean on facebook, i mean with a gun. |
06:54 |
cads |
the closes to that is some underground cryptoanarchist stuff and some occupy bullshit, nothing with a gun.. yet, neh? |
06:55 |
mircea_popescu |
ok so then, if it's not your experience, why is it your preoccupation ? |
06:55 |
cads |
both efforts fell apart into violence and fighting with nothing I could do |
06:55 |
cads |
I mean, I went to rallies, I marched on board meetings, it was fun |
06:56 |
cads |
two friends in the 'movement' got into a fight at a rally |
06:56 |
mircea_popescu |
yes yes but my objection here is that you allow surogates to populate your mental forest. |
06:56 |
mircea_popescu |
which is in principle an evil. |
06:56 |
cads |
and police descended on them, broke bones, femur, put them in the hospital |
06:56 |
mircea_popescu |
a revolution is when you break the bones of the police |
06:56 |
mircea_popescu |
not the other way around. |
06:57 |
mircea_popescu |
this is the key aspect here. not that there is violence, |
06:57 |
cads |
exactly |
06:57 |
mircea_popescu |
but that the only limit to the violence is your own consicence. |
06:57 |
mircea_popescu |
and otherwise, everyone can go straight off to the guillotine. |
06:59 |
mircea_popescu |
but anyway, i'ma be off. we shall debate moar later! |
06:59 |
cads |
maybe I'll adress the mental forest thing, since I don't think you're entirely wrong, and I know it. |
07:01 |
chetty |
careful, MP's strange ideas grow on you |
07:03 |
cads |
it's the classic romanian "you know theory but you don't know practice" attack "o ai cu teoria. Dar practica te omoare." classic because every romanian has heard it from every other romanian they know, in one situation or another. |
07:05 |
cads |
Righteous Lecturing is actually Romania's official national past time, as I'm sure MP would acknowledge from his experiences with family, teachers, politicians, etc. :D |
07:06 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00087589 = 4.0291 BTC [+] {2} |
07:09 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14351 @ 0.00087531 = 12.5616 BTC [-] |
07:09 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.12256 = 0.6128 BTC [-] {2} |
07:11 |
chetty |
you are Romanian too cads? |
07:12 |
cads |
obviously not by choice :) |
07:12 |
cads |
how about you? what's your culture? |
07:13 |
chetty |
haha well I guess Romanain by choice would work - at least for the moment |
07:16 |
cads |
live in RO? |
07:16 |
cads |
or abroad? |
07:16 |
cads |
oh no |
07:16 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 45 @ 0.0055 = 0.2475 BTC |
07:17 |
cads |
I just saw lawrence fishbourne do a Kia commercial in his Morpheus charachter! |
07:17 |
cads |
Had two sets of keys, one in each hand |
07:17 |
chetty |
live in RO atm |
07:17 |
cads |
he was a valet for christ sakes, and offers the driver the choice of two keys |
07:18 |
cads |
the driver picks the kia. the matrix is real. |
07:18 |
chetty |
course it is, was there ever any doubt? |
07:20 |
cads |
chetty: as if the second and third movies were not progressively worse scams, I am just hoping we don't see neo dodging... bad insurance quotes or something... |
07:20 |
cads |
"Geico. Whoa." |
07:21 |
cads |
let me keep at least /some/ piece of media holy and pure in my thoughts, I say! |
07:21 |
chetty |
I never watch sequels ..or TV, bad for your health (mental) |
07:21 |
cads |
^ this is a rapidly fading desire |
07:21 |
cads |
right |
07:21 |
cads |
I've learned to stop caring and throw myself into the long tail without any exterior curator |
07:22 |
cads |
future shock is a bitch sometimes though |
07:26 |
cads |
chetty: I mostly watch commericals, sound turned off, to study the visual rhetoric |
07:26 |
cads |
kinda perverse, I know... I don't do this much... stuff like the superbowl, or when I'm chilling on the couch with friends watching something |
07:27 |
cads |
I sanitize all the advertisements from my internet experience though, and get the large majority of my AV content from pirate channels |
07:32 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21650 @ 0.00087549 = 18.9544 BTC [+] |
07:38 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.125 BTC [+] |
07:44 |
kakobrekla |
;;ticker --market mtgox |
07:44 |
gribble |
MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 250.3295, Best ask: 252.6, Bid-ask spread: 2.27050, Last trade: 249.47, 24 hour volume: 78979.07331245, 24 hour low: 247.0, 24 hour high: 540.0, 24 hour vwap: 333.23091 |
07:51 |
FabianB_ |
;;ticker --market all |
07:51 |
gribble |
MtGox BTCUSD last: 248.5, vol: 78869.04776296 | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 633.0, vol: 16702.98226469 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 600.9, vol: 10841.20438 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 636.3, vol: 9196.50560524 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 655.01, vol: 44.65753383 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 635.753811, vol: 6328.89500000 | Volume-weighted last average: 381.946016093 |
07:52 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19433 @ 0.00087536 = 17.0109 BTC [-] {2} |
| |
~ 16 minutes ~ |
08:08 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25000 @ 0.00087523 = 21.8808 BTC [-] |
08:14 |
ThickAsThieves |
dat ticker! |
08:14 |
ThickAsThieves |
yknow it would be really sad if gox opened and their users were buying up cheap coins and thus benefited from it's idiocy |
08:15 |
ThickAsThieves |
i guess omeone has to play the losing end |
08:17 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00087144 = 8.0172 BTC [-] |
08:25 |
kakobrekla |
anyone good at poker here? |
08:26 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25594 @ 0.00087554 = 22.4086 BTC [+] {2} |
08:26 |
ThickAsThieves |
i hear some magic the gathering players are good at it |
08:28 |
PsychoticBoy_ |
wanna buy a black lotus? |
08:28 |
PsychoticBoy_ |
beta |
08:28 |
PsychoticBoy_ |
got more old magic cards |
08:28 |
PsychoticBoy_ |
;) |
08:29 |
ThickAsThieves |
"Unfortunately, new research suggests that's not the case — trolls' personalities correlate highly with sadism. " |
08:29 |
ThickAsThieves |
"A new study by Erin Buckels and her colleagues at the University of Manitoba found that trolls' personalities are strongly linked to personality traits that form what some psychologists call the Dark Tetrad: sadism, narcissism, psychopathy, and Machiavellianism." |
08:30 |
chetty |
good description of this chan |
08:31 |
ThickAsThieves |
not enough isms though |
08:33 |
ThickAsThieves |
for example, contrarianism ^ |
08:33 |
MisterE |
whales are this is all over IRC today |
08:33 |
MisterE |
opps |
08:34 |
ThickAsThieves |
is that your brain wallet? |
08:34 |
ThickAsThieves |
:) |
08:34 |
MisterE |
already had some text inthe input line |
08:34 |
MisterE |
was gonna say whales are manipulating big time today |
08:34 |
MisterE |
and separately that the study is being talked about in many channels I'm in |
08:36 |
ThickAsThieves |
it's an imporrant development, learning trolls like to troll cuz theyre assholes |
08:38 |
ThickAsThieves |
another popular topic this morning, "how do i get cash into Gox quickly?" |
08:38 |
ThickAsThieves |
no wonder trolls exist... |
08:39 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7950 @ 0.00087659 = 6.9689 BTC [+] |
08:42 |
chetty |
in fairness there are also trolls that make you think - a lot of folks find that painful too |
08:44 |
ThickAsThieves |
nah |
08:44 |
ThickAsThieves |
i wont accept that all conflicting conversatinis trolling |
08:45 |
deadweasel |
i disagree :P |
08:45 |
deadweasel |
hi ThickAsThieves, morning |
08:45 |
ThickAsThieves |
herro |
08:46 |
deadweasel |
too much warm sake last night, with slices of jackfruit and vietnamese waitresses. |
08:46 |
deadweasel |
the grammar makes it seem like i'm eating slices of vietnamese waitresses. that was not the case. |
08:46 |
ThickAsThieves |
slices of waitresses? |
08:47 |
ThickAsThieves |
lol |
08:47 |
ThickAsThieves |
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1y2287/just_got_an_email_from_mtgox/ |
08:47 |
ozbot |
Just got an email from mt.gox : Bitcoin |
08:47 |
ThickAsThieves |
i like the first comment |
08:47 |
ThickAsThieves |
i guess the kickstarter security leak data is being used to log into gox? |
08:47 |
ThickAsThieves |
pretty awesome |
08:48 |
deadweasel |
plunder that place senseless! |
08:48 |
ThickAsThieves |
hack sucker site #1 for obv access to sucker site #2 |
08:48 |
ThickAsThieves |
"dont worry your funds arent going anywhere" |
08:49 |
ThickAsThieves |
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/2014/02/more-than-200-miners-trapped-south-africa-2014216131037223953.html |
08:49 |
ozbot |
Hundreds trapped in South African gold mine - Africa - Al Jazeera English |
08:52 |
ThickAsThieves |
;;market sell 2000 |
08:52 |
gribble |
Bitstamp | A market order to sell 2000 bitcoins right now would net 1222350.0727 USD and would take the last price down to 603.4600 USD, resulting in an average price of 611.1750 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 170.4864 seconds |
08:52 |
ThickAsThieves |
;;market sell --mtgox 2000 |
08:52 |
gribble |
(market sell [--usd] [--market <market>] <value>) -- Calculate the effect on the market depth of a market sell order of <value> bitcoins. If <market> is provided, uses that exchange. Default is Bitstamp. If '--usd' option is given, <value> denotes the size of the order in USD. |
08:52 |
ThickAsThieves |
;;market sell 2000 --mtgox |
08:52 |
gribble |
(market sell [--usd] [--market <market>] <value>) -- Calculate the effect on the market depth of a market sell order of <value> bitcoins. If <market> is provided, uses that exchange. Default is Bitstamp. If '--usd' option is given, <value> denotes the size of the order in USD. |
08:52 |
pankkake |
;;market sell --market mtgox 2000 |
08:52 |
gribble |
MtGox | A market order to sell 2000 bitcoins right now would net 443737.1817 USD and would take the last price down to 207.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 221.8686 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0645 seconds |
08:52 |
ThickAsThieves |
ty |
08:54 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.57499898 BTC [+] |
08:57 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12164 @ 0.00087695 = 10.6672 BTC [+] |
09:00 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.070399 = 0.2112 BTC [+] |
09:02 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.070399 = 0.2816 BTC [+] |
09:02 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.07011 = 0.2804 BTC [+] |
09:04 |
kakobrekla |
coinion.com/news/world/2014/02/more-than-2000-bitcoin-miners-trapped-over-huge-diff-increase |
09:12 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1736 @ 0.00087695 = 1.5224 BTC [+] |
09:13 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10915 @ 0.00087659 = 9.568 BTC [-] |
09:18 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.57499898 BTC [+] |
09:19 |
Apocalyptic |
.d |
09:19 |
ozbot |
2621404453.06462 | Next Diff in 81 blocks | Estimated Change: 18.7724% in 0d 10h 50m 43s |
09:20 |
ThickAsThieves |
http://btctrading.wordpress.com/2014/02/16/long-term-update-3-days-chart-at-bitstamp/ |
09:20 |
ozbot |
Long Term Update: 3 days chart at Bitstamp | Bitcoin Trading Signals |
09:20 |
ThickAsThieves |
Enky makes good posts |
09:20 |
ThickAsThieves |
in case you guys dont already follow him |
09:21 |
ThickAsThieves |
although his prediction of $200 on bitstamp is hard to digest |
09:21 |
ThickAsThieves |
wait i read that wrong |
09:21 |
ThickAsThieves |
he meant -$200 |
09:24 |
kakobrekla |
he is here under Enky2 |
09:24 |
kakobrekla |
fyi |
09:25 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17350 @ 0.00087735 = 15.222 BTC [+] |
09:29 |
ThickAsThieves |
word |
09:31 |
ThickAsThieves |
still waiting for my btc withdrawal from OpenEx... |
09:33 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 46 @ 0.19376446 = 8.9132 BTC [+] |
09:33 |
Apocalyptic |
according to their chatbox there are people complaining too |
09:34 |
ThickAsThieves |
i didnt even see the chatbox heh |
09:35 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 12 @ 0.07504333 = 0.9005 BTC [-] {4} |
09:35 |
ThickAsThieves |
these elastic designs arent always practical for large monitors |
09:36 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2000 @ 0.00024751 = 0.495 BTC [+] {6} |
09:47 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21000 @ 0.00087739 = 18.4252 BTC [+] |
09:52 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2011 @ 0.00024762 = 0.498 BTC [+] {2} |
09:54 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 69 @ 0.00557526 = 0.3847 BTC [+] {8} |
09:58 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.067108 = 0.3355 BTC [-] {2} |
09:59 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 20 @ 0.0055 = 0.11 BTC |
10:01 |
the20year1 |
dang, gox is 270 |
| |
~ 23 minutes ~ |
10:25 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.125 = 0.5 BTC [+] |
10:27 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.19376446 = 0.3875 BTC [+] |
10:28 |
kakobrekla |
dont listen to rap kids |
10:28 |
kakobrekla |
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-26217014 |
10:28 |
ozbot |
BBC News - Man guilty of 'loud music' shootings |
10:30 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00087739 = 6.9314 BTC [+] |
10:31 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11889 @ 0.0008782 = 10.4409 BTC [+] {2} |
10:31 |
asciilifeform |
epic troll: http://cryptome.org/2014/02/fitzpatrick-snowden-01.pdf |
10:46 |
Bugpowder |
Interesting... MPEX options exercise is not executing at the bitcoincharts.com price. |
10:47 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27300 @ 0.00087882 = 23.9918 BTC [+] {2} |
10:56 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24855 @ 0.00087915 = 21.8513 BTC [+] {2} |
11:01 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5000 @ 0.0002469 = 1.2345 BTC [+] {8} |
11:02 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5000 @ 0.00024764 = 1.2382 BTC [+] {5} |
11:03 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 19450 @ 0.00024888 = 4.8407 BTC [+] {12} |
11:06 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.57499899 BTC [+] |
11:07 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 623 @ 0.00024989 = 0.1557 BTC [+] {2} |
11:10 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.57499899 BTC [+] |
11:11 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07076966 = 0.2123 BTC [+] {2} |
11:13 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.57499899 = 1.15 BTC [+] |
11:13 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 56 @ 0.00297498 = 0.1666 BTC [+] |
11:14 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 176 @ 0.00565493 = 0.9953 BTC [+] {7} |
11:14 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.072 = 0.36 BTC [+] |
11:15 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.00569999 = 0.1425 BTC [+] {4} |
11:22 |
FabianB_ |
Bugpowder: what's it executing at instead? |
11:23 |
Bugpowder |
Your order to exercise 1 O.USD.P500T contracts has been received and will be executed. This will net you 0.83109870 BTC. |
11:23 |
Bugpowder |
So about $535. |
11:24 |
Bugpowder |
Maybe that was the last quoted price before the MPOEbot went down. |
11:24 |
FabianB_ |
that's more like the 7 days |
11:28 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 556 @ 0.00024989 = 0.1389 BTC [+] |
11:31 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17300 @ 0.00087693 = 15.1709 BTC [-] {3} |
11:43 |
nubbins` |
hi |
11:47 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.07228571 = 1.012 BTC [+] {3} |
11:59 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.76594243 BTC to 1`841 shares, 95923 satoshi per share |
12:00 |
deadweasel |
hey nubbins` |
12:01 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [COG] [PAID] 0.43004790 BTC to 9`595 shares, 4482 satoshi per share |
12:01 |
nubbins` |
what's the haps? |
12:03 |
ThickAsThieves |
http://i.imgur.com/9fEN4EO.jpg |
12:04 |
nubbins` |
oooooof |
12:05 |
nubbins` |
"my blue jeans and tucked-in t-shirt will make this sword look even more realistic" |
12:06 |
KRS-One |
lol what an infant. |
12:06 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7541 @ 0.0008793 = 6.6308 BTC [+] |
12:07 |
ThickAsThieves |
he hasnt changed like at all |
12:07 |
ThickAsThieves |
just rounder |
12:09 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0672 = 0.2688 BTC [-] |
12:12 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15400 @ 0.00087563 = 13.4847 BTC [-] {2} |
12:18 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.125 = 0.375 BTC [+] |
| |
~ 15 minutes ~ |
12:34 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16400 @ 0.00087942 = 14.4225 BTC [+] {3} |
12:37 |
deadweasel |
is that a current pic |
12:37 |
deadweasel |
? |
12:37 |
deadweasel |
of magicaltwat? |
12:38 |
kakobrekla |
from the latest facebook update. |
12:39 |
Bugpowder |
nice form |
12:40 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [COG] 50 @ 0.05823982 = 2.912 BTC [-] {17} |
12:41 |
deadweasel |
oh my. |
12:50 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15350 @ 0.00087707 = 13.463 BTC [-] |
12:50 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.06723333 = 0.4034 BTC [+] {2} |
12:51 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 45 @ 0.002963 = 0.1333 BTC [-] |
12:57 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.128 = 0.384 BTC [+] {2} |
12:58 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26150 @ 0.00087707 = 22.9354 BTC [-] |
13:00 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 48 @ 0.12210834 = 5.8612 BTC [-] {4} |
13:03 |
asciilifeform |
waitwhat - the fat man carries a sword? |
13:04 |
kakobrekla |
dunno, perhaps its a magic the gathering thing |
13:04 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 30 @ 0.19376446 = 5.8129 BTC [+] |
13:05 |
asciilifeform |
my first thought was, it's against angry creditors |
13:06 |
Bugpowder |
Tux rubs his +4 longsword of summoning... A venté vanilla chai latte appears! |
13:15 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.002963 = 0.2963 BTC [-] |
13:17 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16150 @ 0.00087676 = 14.1597 BTC [-] {2} |
13:31 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 650 @ 0.00087607 = 0.5694 BTC [-] |
| |
~ 20 minutes ~ |
13:51 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 192 @ 0.002963 = 0.5689 BTC [-] |
13:56 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32400 @ 0.00087625 = 28.3905 BTC [+] {3} |
13:58 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 50 @ 0.07256999 = 3.6285 BTC [+] {4} |
14:00 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.07299999 = 0.803 BTC [+] |
14:02 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27450 @ 0.00087882 = 24.1236 BTC [+] {2} |
14:03 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 23 @ 0.073 = 1.679 BTC [+] |
14:12 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.06714 = 0.3357 BTC [-] {4} |
14:21 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.128 = 0.384 BTC [+] |
14:23 |
Bugpowder |
$600 stamp |
14:23 |
asciilifeform |
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/16/us/eavesdropping-ensnared-american-law-firm.html |
14:23 |
Bugpowder |
My buddy is at that firm |
14:23 |
Bugpowder |
heheh |
14:24 |
Bugpowder |
595 |
14:24 |
Bugpowder |
I'm getting itchy... wanna buy on coinbase. |
14:30 |
kakobrekla |
ritchy. |
14:31 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 198 @ 0.073 = 14.454 BTC [+] |
14:31 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7799 @ 0.00087546 = 6.8277 BTC [-] |
14:34 |
ThickAsThieves |
bugpowder, youre a buyer in the 500s? |
14:34 |
Bugpowder |
haven't pulled trigger yet. |
14:34 |
Bugpowder |
thinking about an entry tho |
14:34 |
ThickAsThieves |
was thinking same, but seems like it could go to 565 |
14:35 |
Bugpowder |
might just start scaling in. |
14:35 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 60 @ 0.073 = 4.38 BTC [+] |
14:35 |
Bugpowder |
last buy I made was at $700 a month or two ago. |
14:35 |
ThickAsThieves |
hard to predict what will happen if gox opens too |
14:35 |
Bugpowder |
price goes up |
14:35 |
Bugpowder |
not that hard to predict |
14:35 |
ThickAsThieves |
and then down? |
14:35 |
ThickAsThieves |
on stasmp |
14:35 |
Bugpowder |
it think it rallies everywhere |
14:36 |
ThickAsThieves |
yeah at first |
14:36 |
ThickAsThieves |
i guess thats all we need |
14:36 |
Bugpowder |
I'm not a trader so... I don't really care about the next 3 months |
14:36 |
Bugpowder |
Just want lowest entry |
14:36 |
ThickAsThieves |
i trade but go long when i get stuck :) |
14:37 |
Bugpowder |
some defense of 600 at stamp |
14:37 |
ThickAsThieves |
with a small portion of coins really |
14:39 |
Bugpowder |
Did u see that options exercise is happening at the wrong price? |
14:40 |
FabianB |
;;ticker --market all |
14:40 |
gribble |
MtGox BTCUSD last: 247.0, vol: 83120.16093865 | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 610.0, vol: 23766.41845250 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 582.999, vol: 16671.38148 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 609.5, vol: 11813.83308207 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 641.0, vol: 68.53288743 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 623.844733, vol: 8032.04500000 | Volume-weighted last average: 397.308574612 |
14:41 |
ThickAsThieves |
well "wrong" depends on who you ask ;) |
14:42 |
FabianB |
it's supposed to ask bitcoincharts |
14:42 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.0672 = 0.1344 BTC [+] |
14:43 |
Bugpowder |
the bottom is in! |
14:43 |
Bugpowder |
missed it :( |
14:43 |
ThickAsThieves |
nah |
14:43 |
ThickAsThieves |
waitll tonight or tomorrow |
14:43 |
ThickAsThieves |
when gox says "sike!" |
14:45 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53600 @ 0.00087994 = 47.1648 BTC [+] {4} |
14:45 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 450 @ 0.00218173 = 0.9818 BTC [+] |
14:46 |
benkay |
"but the supreme court dismissed their fear as 'speculative'" |
14:47 |
benkay |
hm. maybe start a consulting company around "secure international comms" |
14:47 |
benkay |
sell everyone cardanos at 1000x markup. |
14:48 |
benkay |
defo gotta leave the us before doing that. |
14:51 |
asciilifeform |
benkay: what kind of idiot would buy at 1000x? |
14:52 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20700 @ 0.00088041 = 18.2245 BTC [+] {2} |
14:52 |
benkay |
the kind of idiots who don't know about cardanos to begin with. |
14:52 |
pankkake |
put a half eaten fruit on it |
14:52 |
asciilifeform |
i imagine there will be 1,000 of these once the plans are published. |
14:53 |
benkay |
asciilifeform: the cardanos come free with the implementation package for your two organizations. |
14:54 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9341 @ 0.00087531 = 8.1763 BTC [-] {2} |
14:58 |
asciilifeform |
one problem with this scheme is, as far as i can see, in order to want a cardano in the first place one needs a modicum of brains. |
14:58 |
benkay |
this is the enterprise sales problem. |
14:59 |
benkay |
there are fifty people over there - and only one with a checkbook and the brains to recognize a solution that needs implementing, frequently attended by much organizational resistance to doing anything. |
14:59 |
benkay |
nevertheless, that law firm needs some cardanos and training on how to use them. |
15:00 |
benkay |
besides they get to mark up the time spent fucking around with encryption to their clients - it's a win win win win win! |
15:01 |
asciilifeform |
if you personally can make this happen, talk to mp! |
15:02 |
asciilifeform |
the folks you're talking about might be a hard sell. they'd need to be talked out of their addiction to 'standards-compliant' (read: u.s.-diddled) turdware. |
15:02 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0735 = 0.735 BTC [+] |
15:03 |
benkay |
if the opportunity presents itself i'd be happy to. i'm not about to cold-call all the international law firms in dc, though. |
15:03 |
benkay |
although... |
15:04 |
benkay |
so the flipside of the additiction to 'standards-compliant' is that now some people in big cushy chairs are finally getting the idea that their standards are just a backdoor for the us of a. |
15:04 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20300 @ 0.00087413 = 17.7448 BTC [-] |
15:04 |
asciilifeform |
there is another, trickier problem that must be finessed. |
15:05 |
asciilifeform |
the clever ones will be very suspicious of anything presented as a pill against usg. |
15:06 |
asciilifeform |
on the other hand, witness all the lost souls salivating over 'silent circle' and related crap. |
15:08 |
benkay |
there is an awful chasm between people who want encryption and people who are willing to operate under the inconvenience of actual security. |
15:08 |
asciilifeform |
the 'good cop bad cop' algorithm is as old as mankind. |
| |
~ 22 minutes ~ |
15:30 |
KRS-One |
.bait |
15:30 |
ozbot |
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m72h4wROLM1qkzao6o1_1280.jpg |
15:31 |
KRS-One |
.bait |
15:31 |
twizt |
pretty slow bait |
15:31 |
ozbot |
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3np4jEXuS1r1c0w7o1_500.jpg |
15:31 |
KRS-One |
wtf is that? ONE boob? |
15:31 |
KRS-One |
.bait |
15:31 |
ozbot |
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8u5cyYHuw1rr6uq1o1_500.jpg |
15:31 |
KRS-One |
=/ |
15:31 |
KRS-One |
fuck yea |
15:32 |
Mats_cd03 |
could anyone recommend a reputable whois privacy service |
15:32 |
KRS-One |
Safenames |
15:32 |
KRS-One |
teh best i ever found as a sysadmin |
15:33 |
nubbins` |
few better ways to spend a sunday than calculating your net worth while enjoying a large mug of aeropress coffee |
15:33 |
Mats_cd03 |
thx qt |
15:34 |
benkay |
eyo nubbins` |
15:35 |
nubbins` |
oh hi |
15:35 |
benkay |
BingoBoingo's nominally gathering up the satoshi letters |
15:35 |
benkay |
you should enbookify 'em |
15:35 |
KRS-One |
oh wow aeropress is much less acidic |
15:35 |
nubbins` |
the satoshi letters? |
15:35 |
benkay |
but subject of coffee, y'all ever fuck with the clever brewer? |
15:35 |
nubbins` |
KRS-One, it's what got me drinking black. |
15:36 |
Mats_cd03 |
lol 'the satoshi letters' |
15:36 |
KRS-One |
wow black rly |
15:36 |
KRS-One |
is it plasic or glass? I hate plastic |
15:36 |
benkay |
nubbins`: yeah all of the things that szabo/satoshi wrote over the past 5 years or so |
15:36 |
nubbins` |
benkay: haven't tried the clever, but i do enjoy a good pour-over |
15:36 |
nubbins` |
benkay, i'd publish that |
15:36 |
benkay |
nubbins`: what i love about the clever is that it combines the extraction time of the french press with the filtering of the pour over |
15:37 |
benkay |
super precision coffee making |
15:37 |
KRS-One |
wiki doesnt say if aeropress is glass or plastic |
15:37 |
benkay |
it's plastic. |
15:37 |
benkay |
everything's plastic. |
15:37 |
KRS-One |
i'm a coffee snob |
15:37 |
KRS-One |
heat + plastic doesnt work well with me |
15:37 |
KRS-One |
plastic in fucken general |
15:37 |
benkay |
FUKKEN PLASTIC |
15:37 |
nubbins` |
aeropress is great |
15:37 |
nubbins` |
guy who invented the aerobie made it |
15:37 |
KRS-One |
ever drink water out of a plastic bottle? u can taste it |
15:37 |
KRS-One |
u cant tell me thats not bad for u |
15:37 |
nubbins` |
not sure offhand what type of plastic it's made from |
15:38 |
benkay |
hey KRS-One there are a bunch of different kinds of plastics |
15:38 |
benkay |
but hiding from them all in fear is a pretty safe approach. |
15:38 |
nubbins` |
http://aerobie.com/Products/Details/AeroPressMaterialsDescription.htm |
15:38 |
KRS-One |
whoever is in charge of plastic can shove them all up his ass. |
15:38 |
nubbins` |
heh |
15:38 |
KRS-One |
Sorry I just have a thing about plastic. |
15:38 |
nubbins` |
don't be sorry |
15:38 |
KRS-One |
i think its killing us |
15:39 |
nubbins` |
remember when everyone thought BPA was safe? |
15:39 |
nubbins` |
"oh whoops it's not lel sorry" |
15:39 |
KRS-One |
yeah |
15:39 |
Mats_cd03 |
i consume 500ug of bpa every day |
15:39 |
Mats_cd03 |
it makes me feel normal |
15:39 |
KRS-One |
what do u get it from |
15:39 |
nubbins` |
anyway, copolyester is what the aeropress is made of |
15:39 |
KRS-One |
nubbins`: thats better |
15:40 |
KRS-One |
it holds up to heat ok? |
15:40 |
nubbins` |
yeah, i brew at 80C |
15:40 |
nubbins` |
have been using one for ~3 years now, no signs of degradation |
15:41 |
benkay |
the clever's seal blows out after about 3 years of constant use |
15:41 |
kakobrekla |
yeah i need to get one of thsoe to try it out |
15:41 |
nubbins` |
"The AeroPress is made of three different plastics. The clear chamber and plunger are made of copolyester. The hard black filter cap, filter holder, funnel, and stirrer are made of polypropylene. The rubber like seal on the end of the plunger is made of a thermoplastic elastomer. All of these materials are FDA approved for use in contact with food. None of these materials contain bisphenol-A |
15:41 |
nubbins` |
(BPA) or any phthalates, chemicals that have been in the news lately because of possible health effects." |
15:41 |
nubbins` |
we have two ;( |
15:41 |
nubbins` |
as long as you don't store the aeropress with the plunger compressed, it should last forever |
15:41 |
KRS-One |
what do they have against glass and stainless steel? |
15:41 |
KRS-One |
more elegant |
15:42 |
benkay |
so make one |
15:42 |
KRS-One |
for instance, to smoke herb out of a nice ROOR Bong is a completely different experience than a fricken plastic one. |
15:43 |
nubbins` |
that link i pasted actually talks about glass and metal |
15:43 |
nubbins` |
consider that if ROOR made an aeropress it'd probably cost $200 |
15:44 |
kakobrekla |
i thought we were past foodstamps here |
15:44 |
nubbins` |
and although you could probably throw it at a brick wall without breaking, that's probably not enough to justify the cost |
15:44 |
kakobrekla |
o wait |
15:44 |
kakobrekla |
;;ticker --market mtgox |
15:44 |
gribble |
MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 244.40967, Best ask: 246.995, Bid-ask spread: 2.58533, Last trade: 246.995, 24 hour volume: 85327.37931997, 24 hour low: 220.29327, 24 hour high: 540.0, 24 hour vwap: 308.78456 |
15:44 |
KRS-One |
they are cheap |
15:44 |
kakobrekla |
nevermind that. |
15:44 |
KRS-One |
$25 USD on ThinkGeek |
15:44 |
KRS-One |
I shall try one |
15:44 |
nubbins` |
don't bother with a spare pack of filters, they give you like 300 |
15:45 |
KRS-One |
wow |
15:45 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15850 @ 0.00087262 = 13.831 BTC [-] |
15:45 |
nubbins` |
fair warning, they suggest you use a large number of beans per cup |
15:45 |
nubbins` |
like 2x what you'd use for drip |
15:46 |
benkay |
that's always struck me as an indicator of inefficiency |
15:48 |
nubbins` |
compensates for the 30 second brew time |
15:48 |
nubbins` |
you can get away with using less, tho |
15:48 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.19376446 BTC [+] |
15:48 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10354 @ 0.00087262 = 9.0351 BTC [-] |
15:48 |
nubbins` |
the aeropress actually makes an "espresso-like concentrate", that you then top up with hot water |
15:49 |
nubbins` |
inventor ragequit the coffeegeek forums after a months-long argument about whether it's "espresso" or not :D |
15:51 |
kakobrekla |
well its pressed and its express |
15:51 |
kakobrekla |
how can it not be espresso |
15:52 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.55000481 BTC [-] |
15:52 |
nubbins` |
KRS-One: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mdATGyziIY |
15:52 |
Mats_cd03 |
whats worse than audio geeks? coffee nerds |
15:53 |
kakobrekla |
what you get so stoned you cant hold your bong anymore? |
15:54 |
nubbins` |
kakobrekla, the lel is that those bongs cost several hundred dollars apiece |
15:54 |
nubbins` |
and it's assumed that their owners are just going to start dropping them off tables etc |
15:55 |
kakobrekla |
you could hit someone on the head if you could remember who you wanted to hit |
15:55 |
nubbins` |
Mats_cd03: what's worse than people who like things? people who don't think you should like the things you like |
15:55 |
nubbins` |
kakobrekla, +! |
15:55 |
nubbins` |
+1 even |
15:56 |
benkay |
nubbins`: 'cause i really want my house smelling of bong water. |
15:56 |
Mats_cd03 |
i like coffee, thc, and pussy |
15:56 |
kakobrekla |
well, its a saying, tell me who you hang out with and ill tell you who you are |
15:56 |
Mats_cd03 |
i dont go on forums and post walls of text about any of those though |
15:56 |
kakobrekla |
pretty much same goes for , tell me what you like and ill tell you if you are a retard |
15:56 |
nubbins` |
Mats_cd03: unsure if i should offer congratulations |
15:56 |
Mats_cd03 |
i guess i'm a consumer |
15:56 |
Mats_cd03 |
not a connoiseur though |
15:57 |
nubbins` |
kakobrekla: i like bitcoin, coffee, bicycles, and printing |
15:58 |
kakobrekla |
you are fine |
15:58 |
kakobrekla |
except for the mac thing. |
15:58 |
benkay |
he's also a filthy pothead |
15:58 |
pankkake |
but printing is evil! |
15:58 |
dub |
i like white wimminz |
15:59 |
nubbins` |
heh |
15:59 |
Mats_cd03 |
printing steals jobs from hard working bangladeshis and chinese |
15:59 |
nubbins` |
right, yeah, i like my laptop and drugs, too |
15:59 |
Mats_cd03 |
(we're talking about 3d printing here right) |
15:59 |
nubbins` |
nah, 2d printing |
15:59 |
nubbins` |
what the fuck is 3d printing |
15:59 |
kakobrekla |
and those stupid cas coins. |
15:59 |
nubbins` |
yes, those stupid coins too |
15:59 |
kakobrekla |
you are not fine! |
15:59 |
benkay |
so kakobrekla nubbins` retarded or not? |
15:59 |
nubbins` |
did i tell you i sold one of those for 6btc recently? :0 |
16:00 |
kakobrekla |
benkay its a hard case. |
16:00 |
nubbins` |
borderline retarded |
16:00 |
kakobrekla |
bikes coffee and bitcoin aint bad. |
16:01 |
kakobrekla |
mp would argue with the bike thing. |
16:01 |
nubbins` |
sure, but we're not all vulgar enough to have a driver cart us around ;p |
16:01 |
benkay |
hey d_rebel what's your deal |
16:01 |
benkay |
d_rebel why u change names constantly |
16:01 |
Mats_cd03 |
what does cas come loaded with? 5btc? |
16:02 |
nubbins` |
Mats_cd03, there are a variety of denominations, from 0.1btc to 1000btc |
16:02 |
Mats_cd03 |
o |
16:02 |
kakobrekla |
any they are _all_ useless pretty much |
16:03 |
nubbins` |
well don't tell that to the guy who paid 6btc for one loaded with 0.5btc |
16:03 |
benkay |
BWAT |
16:03 |
d_rebel |
i have no idea why that's happening. |
16:03 |
kakobrekla |
dafuq |
16:03 |
nubbins` |
it was an especially low mintage. |
16:03 |
benkay |
you crazy numismatists |
16:03 |
kakobrekla |
you mean especially retarded fella |
16:04 |
nubbins` |
well yes, that too |
16:04 |
Mats_cd03 |
robbed |
16:04 |
benkay |
scammer! |
16:04 |
nubbins` |
hey, fuck you guys |
16:04 |
benkay |
nubbins` u scamzor! |
16:04 |
nubbins` |
he knew what he was buying |
16:04 |
benkay |
so do all pmb purchasers |
16:04 |
nubbins` |
HAH |
16:04 |
nubbins` |
no they don't |
16:04 |
assbot |
Last 10 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1626821/plain/) |
16:04 |
kakobrekla |
!b 10 |
16:05 |
benkay |
nubbins` you just lost the moral high ground. |
16:05 |
kakobrekla |
maybe needs more contxt, ill decide later |
16:05 |
assbot |
Last 30 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1626823/plain/) |
16:05 |
kakobrekla |
!b 30 |
16:05 |
nubbins` |
"assuming network difficulty stays the same..." |
16:05 |
nubbins` |
benkay, there's moral high ground in here? |
16:05 |
nubbins` |
pmb purchasers think "hey, mining = win" and the sellers say "assuming diff doesn't change..." |
16:06 |
kakobrekla |
hmm |
16:06 |
Mats_cd03 |
KRS-One: how is whoisguard compared to safenames |
16:06 |
benkay |
"assuming this mintage is worth more than the underlying in the future" |
16:06 |
kakobrekla |
wasnt nubbing nagging someone couple of days or weeks ago |
16:06 |
nubbins` |
numismatic collectors think "hey, this will be worth more money in the future" and sellers say "maybe, dunno" |
16:06 |
kakobrekla |
re high moral grounds n stuffs |
16:06 |
benkay |
face it man we're all just dancing around trying to fuck each other |
16:06 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0738 = 0.1476 BTC [+] |
16:06 |
nubbins` |
kakobrekla, i was giving tat grief over his rubecoin and pmb |
16:06 |
Mats_cd03 |
id fuck you |
16:06 |
benkay |
yeah he's been banging on about pmbs being a scam |
16:06 |
kakobrekla |
ah yes . |
16:06 |
pankkake |
scammers scamming scammers |
16:06 |
benkay |
hasn't had the stones to call mp out on the same scam tho |
16:07 |
kakobrekla |
which one is that |
16:07 |
nubbins` |
f.pure.synth |
16:07 |
nubbins` |
AFAICT that was a scam too |
16:07 |
nubbins` |
just offered at a better rate than other similar scams |
16:07 |
kakobrekla |
lol |
16:07 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 58 @ 0.00569999 = 0.3306 BTC [+] {3} |
16:07 |
benkay |
it's allllll just paper. |
16:07 |
benkay |
whether it's fancy paper with imaginary value now, or metal stamped paper with imaginary value in the future. |
16:07 |
Chris_Sabian_ |
what about TAT? |
16:08 |
nubbins` |
anyway, all the info on f.pure.synth seems to be gone |
16:08 |
nubbins` |
so i wasn't able to suss out many details |
16:09 |
benkay |
it's not terribly complex. it's a pmb. |
16:09 |
nubbins` |
sure, but it was somehow tied into another pmb |
16:09 |
benkay |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=65569.0 |
16:09 |
benkay |
that'n |
16:09 |
ozbot |
[GLBSE] PureMining: Infinite-term, deterministic mining bond |
16:09 |
nubbins` |
yeah, it was essentially offering the same returns as that |
16:09 |
nubbins` |
but for a lower price |
16:10 |
benkay |
point is - life is a scam. |
16:10 |
nubbins` |
that's one outlook, yes |
16:10 |
nubbins` |
life's a scam, so you better try to get yours! |
16:11 |
benkay |
that's your play with the coins, certainly. |
16:11 |
benkay |
it's not a requirement. |
16:11 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32094 @ 0.00087453 = 28.0672 BTC [+] {3} |
16:11 |
nubbins` |
you'd be surprised the margins i get on most of these coins |
16:12 |
benkay |
great scam! |
16:12 |
benkay |
great margins. |
16:12 |
kakobrekla |
amazing profit |
16:12 |
assbot |
AMAZING COMPANY! |
16:12 |
nubbins` |
unfortunately, getting 6btc for a coin that cost ~1.2btc is a very rare thing |
16:13 |
mircea_popescu |
good evening gents |
16:13 |
nubbins` |
more common to get ~0.1 |
16:13 |
nubbins` |
evening |
16:13 |
Apocalyptic |
evening mircea |
16:15 |
benkay |
i get where you're coming from nubbins`, really i do |
16:15 |
benkay |
but bitcoins is fukken dangerous. |
16:15 |
nubbins` |
no argument there |
16:15 |
benkay |
not toys |
16:15 |
mircea_popescu |
bitcoins killd my auntie. |
16:15 |
benkay |
not 'consumer tech' |
16:15 |
mircea_popescu |
consumer tech also killed my auntie. |
16:15 |
benkay |
i suppose this is why normal humans aren't allowed to buy fancy paper in the us |
16:16 |
benkay |
they might get ripped off if they're not really smart and careful! |
16:16 |
benkay |
but there's 0.01% of people that are smart |
16:16 |
asciilifeform |
consumer tech demo |
16:16 |
asciilifeform |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mbD-LRTAIY |
16:16 |
benkay |
and 0.01% of people that are careful |
16:16 |
ozbot |
Monkey shooting in black with AK-47 (Kalashnikov) - YouTube |
16:16 |
mircea_popescu |
ripped off by the wrong people, even! |
16:17 |
nubbins` |
fancy paper |
16:17 |
mircea_popescu |
whoa it can handle the recoil ? |
16:17 |
benkay |
that makes like nobody that should be 'allowed' to play with these dangerous toys |
16:18 |
benkay |
or alternatively accept that 99.99999 of people are going to get fucked their whole lives, throw up hands and not give fucks. |
16:18 |
asciilifeform |
staged, if anyone didn't know. |
16:18 |
mircea_popescu |
somehow i imagined a monkey trying to fire an ak would end up flying. |
16:18 |
mircea_popescu |
what the fuck is it weigh, 50 lbs ? |
16:18 |
nubbins` |
what else can i do! |
16:19 |
benkay |
make the babes happy |
16:20 |
nubbins` |
mircea_popescu: well, if little kids can shoot em... |
16:20 |
benkay |
pursue personal power |
16:20 |
nubbins` |
benkay: but i'm already doing both of those things D: |
16:20 |
asciilifeform |
nobody cancelled newton's 3rd. |
16:20 |
benkay |
yeah so let the scammers alone |
16:20 |
benkay |
or at least stop trying to foist your differentiation of scams on -assets |
16:20 |
mircea_popescu |
wtf ?! |
16:21 |
mircea_popescu |
benkay whai ?! |
16:21 |
nubbins` |
hey, this was dead until you brought it up again :P |
16:21 |
nubbins` |
mircea_popescu, i've been inducted into the ranks of pmb/rubecoin pushers |
16:22 |
mircea_popescu |
what is that |
16:22 |
mircea_popescu |
jesus how long have i been asleep |
16:22 |
benkay |
fair 'nuff |
16:22 |
mircea_popescu |
last i recall i was talking revolucion with some guy |
16:23 |
nubbins` |
yeah last thing we heard from you was <mircea_popescu> time to shave my beard so i'll know how long i've been asleep |
16:23 |
mircea_popescu |
lmao |
16:25 |
mircea_popescu |
o wait pmb/rubecoin as in miner bonds and altchain scams ? |
16:25 |
nubbins` |
just go back like an hour |
16:26 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` i dunno if you've noticed this, but the logs are pretty much taylored for my convenience. if i'm up, an hour stretches over like 300 lines. yet the ten hours im asleep look in the log like an hour and a half. |
16:27 |
nubbins` |
that's got the makings of a great thesis statement |
16:27 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
16:27 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1200 @ 0.00083785 = 1.0054 BTC [+] {4} |
16:28 |
nubbins` |
http://science.slashdot.org/story/14/02/16/197236/mathematician-is-our-universe-a-simulation |
16:28 |
nubbins` |
^ old hat to many of you, but stories like this always get my gears turning |
16:28 |
ozbot |
Mathematician: Is Our Universe a Simulation? - Slashdot |
16:29 |
KRS-One |
ozbot: I think so. |
16:29 |
KRS-One |
or it can at least be modelled mathematically |
16:29 |
nubbins` |
Mathematical knowledge is unlike any other knowledge. Its truths are objective, necessary and timeless. |
16:30 |
KRS-One |
haha |
16:30 |
KRS-One |
.bait |
16:30 |
nubbins` |
in a just universe, .bait would link you to the proof of a theorem |
16:30 |
ozbot |
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8q213Qbu01ryjfq3o1_500.jpg |
16:30 |
KRS-One |
Eww, her bicycle seat gonna smell. |
16:31 |
asciilifeform |
http://www.inwap.com/pdp10/hbaker/hakmem/hacks.html#item154 |
16:31 |
ozbot |
HAKMEM -- PROGRAMMING HACKS -- DRAFT, NOT YET PROOFED |
16:31 |
asciilifeform |
(obligatory re: universe sim) |
16:32 |
mircea_popescu |
;;later tell cads actualy, it is not, not that i don't appreciate your culture on the topic. the difference is subtly this : that what you propose is geared towards the present and the future, a matter of action, whereas what i was discussing was strictly as to the past and a matter of representation. |
16:32 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
16:33 |
KRS-One |
wonder if anyone has tried to pinpoint the location in the universe to the precise location where the big bang occurred, taking into account skew or any offset |
16:33 |
KRS-One |
there was the wmap project but that wasnt a specific goal |
16:34 |
nubbins` |
eh, not sure such a thing is yet possible |
16:34 |
mircea_popescu |
KRS-One the location where the big bang occured is not within the universe. |
16:34 |
asciilifeform |
likewise p != np because the kid playing sim-verse has a finite budget too... |
16:34 |
mircea_popescu |
or at least, not particularly more in one place than the other. |
16:34 |
KRS-One |
if everything came from the singularity wouldnt there be that specific point in some kind of reference to us? |
16:35 |
mircea_popescu |
nope. |
16:35 |
nubbins` |
well, what's your frame of reference for locating the singularity? |
16:35 |
mircea_popescu |
might as well try to determine where on your body is the place where your mom got laid. |
16:35 |
KRS-One |
earth obviously |
16:35 |
mircea_popescu |
obviously she didn't get laid on your body. |
16:35 |
nubbins` |
relative to earth? we're flying through space |
16:35 |
KRS-One |
right but if we can model the universe somewhat and reverse time.. |
16:35 |
mircea_popescu |
but you can not reverse time. |
16:35 |
KRS-One |
we've done it with galaxies |
16:36 |
nubbins` |
^ |
16:36 |
KRS-One |
on sim's you can |
16:36 |
mircea_popescu |
no, we haven't lol. |
16:36 |
mircea_popescu |
sims are toys. |
16:36 |
nubbins` |
sims make assumptions |
16:36 |
KRS-One |
yeah |
16:36 |
nubbins` |
consider the benign case of two galaxies smashing together and merging |
16:36 |
KRS-One |
we've simluated that |
16:36 |
nubbins` |
is a sim gonna show you what those two galaxies looked like before they crashed? |
16:37 |
nubbins` |
if so, to what resolution? etc |
16:37 |
KRS-One |
ah |
16:37 |
nubbins` |
might as well do a simulation of a pile of rotten mush to see what shape the banana was |
16:38 |
KRS-One |
too many assumptions |
16:38 |
nubbins` |
or a simulation to see what shade of yellow the eggs in your cake were, etc |
16:38 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10773 @ 0.0008752 = 9.4285 BTC [+] |
16:38 |
ThickAsThieves |
guys, if you suddenly pass out, i iz just rebooting |
16:38 |
nubbins` |
too many assumptions and too many one-way events |
16:38 |
ThickAsThieves |
LifeOS needs to repopulate scams |
16:38 |
nubbins` |
ThickAsThieves, on the bright side, we won't remember being asleep |
16:39 |
ThickAsThieves |
we won't remember being alive either |
16:39 |
nubbins` |
or, to generalize: we won't |
16:39 |
ThickAsThieves |
sure we will |
16:39 |
mircea_popescu |
deadweasel just admitted to slashing a vietnamese girl while drunk ? or did i misread ? |
16:40 |
ThickAsThieves |
deadweasel spoke? |
16:40 |
nubbins` |
we will, yes, sure. but i'm talking about whether we won't |
16:40 |
mircea_popescu |
he said he was jacking a rabbit with slices of vietnamese waitress. |
16:40 |
ThickAsThieves |
ah yes |
16:40 |
ThickAsThieves |
weird guy that one |
16:41 |
nubbins` |
heh |
16:41 |
mircea_popescu |
especially... what i want to know is what he did to the weasel. |
16:41 |
ThickAsThieves |
mustve got confused which part was sushi |
16:41 |
mircea_popescu |
they're both sushi. |
16:41 |
KRS-One |
heh |
16:41 |
nubbins` |
i think wait staff does too much running around to make good eating |
16:41 |
ThickAsThieves |
Bugpowder it's falling again! |
16:42 |
ThickAsThieves |
get out yer wallet |
16:42 |
nubbins` |
ideally you want a combination of little/no exercise and healthy eating |
16:42 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61900 @ 0.00087702 = 54.2875 BTC [+] {2} |
16:42 |
nubbins` |
but those two things so rarely go together |
16:42 |
davout |
!t x.eur |
16:42 |
assbot |
Aren't those tins of tobacco right there behind you? |
16:42 |
mircea_popescu |
"Enky makes good posts" << is this the guy that bought t credits and rated me for it >? |
16:42 |
davout |
hmm how does that thing work? |
16:42 |
mircea_popescu |
!t m x.eur |
16:42 |
assbot |
[MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0.00218173 / 0.00218173 / 0.00218173 (450 shares, 0.98 BTC), 7D: 0.00194567 / 0.00201007 / 0.00218173 (3800 shares, 7.64 BTC), 30D: 0.00166114 / 0.00179489 / 0.00218173 (21300 shares, 38.23 BTC) |
16:42 |
ThickAsThieves |
enky knows kako i think |
16:42 |
davout |
mircea_popescu: ty |
16:43 |
ThickAsThieves |
do they do that 4x thing together? |
16:43 |
mircea_popescu |
;;gettrust enikesha |
16:43 |
gribble |
WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user enikesha: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=enikesha | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=enikesha | Rated since: Sun Sep 16 18:40:11 2012 |
16:43 |
mircea_popescu |
tthat guy ? |
16:43 |
ThickAsThieves |
dont think so |
16:43 |
mircea_popescu |
i would guess not huh |
16:43 |
ThickAsThieves |
;;gettrust enky |
16:43 |
gribble |
WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user ThickAsThieves to user enky: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=ThickAsThieves&dest=enky | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=enky | Rated since: never |
16:43 |
ThickAsThieves |
;;gettrust enky2 |
16:43 |
gribble |
WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user ThickAsThieves to user enky2: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=ThickAsThieves&dest=enky2 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=enky2 | Rated since: never |
16:43 |
mircea_popescu |
myeah nm, just my head got impacted. |
16:44 |
mircea_popescu |
Bugpowder: |
16:44 |
mircea_popescu |
Maybe that was the last quoted price before the MPOEbot went down. << exactly. |
16:44 |
nubbins` |
better your head than your bowel |
16:44 |
mircea_popescu |
FabianB no it's the last quoted. |
16:45 |
mircea_popescu |
benkay:sell everyone cardanos at 1000x markup. << i think you're the fifth guy planning to do basically that. |
16:46 |
mircea_popescu |
buy $5k worth of cardanos and $15k worth of suits, hassle execs for three months and bill $3.5mn worth of bs. |
16:46 |
mod6 |
are they ready to order? |
16:46 |
nubbins` |
now that's pulchritude |
16:47 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform: benkay: what kind of idiot would buy at 1000x? << the kind of idiot that expects service, which maximally extended is the kind of idiot who only deals with people in his wot. so basically, any serious businessman. |
16:47 |
mircea_popescu |
that's why startups have advantages in the mktplace. |
16:47 |
mircea_popescu |
mod6 not just yet. |
16:47 |
asciilifeform |
1000x sounds a bit tall, that's all. |
16:47 |
mod6 |
ok thx :) |
16:47 |
mircea_popescu |
a like that. well maybe. |
16:47 |
cazalla |
cads around? |
16:48 |
mircea_popescu |
;;calc 3500/(15+5) |
16:48 |
gribble |
175 |
16:48 |
mircea_popescu |
100x! |
16:49 |
mircea_popescu |
benkay:if the opportunity presents itself i'd be happy to. i'm not about to cold-call all the international law firms in dc, though. <<< because why ? |
16:49 |
asciilifeform |
main challenge will be assisting noobs in learning to 'tell shit from shinola.' |
16:49 |
mircea_popescu |
that's exactly equal to saying cca 2009 "well if some bitcoins appear on my harddrives i'll be glad. i'm not abouit to run bs code on my computer which i need for trying to strip naked the sims" |
16:50 |
ThickAsThieves |
<asciilifeform> main challenge will be assisting noobs in learning to 'tell shit from shinola.' /// sounds like competition is needed |
16:50 |
ThickAsThieves |
maybe make two rival companies |
16:50 |
asciilifeform |
S.KGB |
16:50 |
nubbins` |
s.hit and s.hinola |
16:50 |
mircea_popescu |
benkay: |
16:50 |
mircea_popescu |
there is an awful chasm between people who want encryption and people who are willing to operate under the inconvenience of actual security. << into the permanent records of bitcoin-assets this goes. |
16:50 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` you have to draw that one. |
16:51 |
benkay |
mircea_popescu: did you see the part where i said "although..." trailing off while pondering the work/payoff function? |
16:51 |
nubbins` |
mircea_popescu, there comes a point where you have to turn it into an abstract |
16:51 |
mircea_popescu |
benkay no. i only read the parts that i can use (twice). the rest i don't read at all :D |
16:52 |
benkay |
mircea_popescu: funny man |
16:52 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` ok, let's try as an abstract : there's an awful chasm \between the people who want to cum and the people who are willing to operate under the inconvenience of actually getting all that girlslime all over their cock. |
16:52 |
benkay |
the inconvenience of girlslime!? |
16:52 |
mircea_popescu |
it's abstract man. |
16:52 |
asciilifeform |
i was just gonna throw that in |
16:52 |
mircea_popescu |
whoa i beat someone at the quick typing game once. |
16:53 |
mircea_popescu |
now i can die happy. or at least content. or whatever. |
16:53 |
ThickAsThieves |
girlslime, pretty sure thatd make the politically incorrect list |
16:53 |
ThickAsThieves |
and snailtrail |
16:53 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves should it be gender-balanced-lubrication ? |
16:53 |
asciilifeform |
'wd-40' for all. |
16:53 |
asciilifeform |
no discriminatory advantage permitted! |
16:53 |
mircea_popescu |
you know the girls do most of the sliming. which is kind of weird seeing how the boys get most of the hurt if they didn't. |
16:54 |
mod6 |
lol @ snailtrail. |
16:54 |
ThickAsThieves |
so any predictions what gox will announce? |
16:54 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves chemtrails. |
16:55 |
ThickAsThieves |
i'm going with "btc withdrawals are now partially open, so we can monitor the situation |
16:55 |
mircea_popescu |
speaking of which, are chemtrails the result of quadriplegic women on chemo moving about the hospital ? |
16:55 |
ThickAsThieves |
then a wave of everyone saying they cant get coins out |
16:56 |
mod6 |
then a wave of everyone pelting magicaltwit with flaming bags of dog shit |
16:56 |
nubbins` |
mircea_popescu: http://imgur.com/k8F31RR |
16:56 |
mircea_popescu |
magicallol |
16:56 |
nubbins` |
no cocks necessary. |
16:56 |
ThickAsThieves |
well scammers find ways to drag it out |
16:56 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` pretty good! |
16:56 |
mircea_popescu |
want some atc ? |
16:56 |
ThickAsThieves |
maybe they release some coins for vocal customers |
16:57 |
ThickAsThieves |
take the atc nubs |
16:57 |
ThickAsThieves |
you know you wanna |
16:57 |
ThickAsThieves |
be one of us michael |
16:57 |
nubbins` |
mircea_popescu: sure, send 'em to 1AltcoinSucksCocks<however many extra chars necessary to make length> |
16:57 |
mircea_popescu |
hater. |
16:57 |
nubbins` |
who's michael? |
16:58 |
mircea_popescu |
you do realise that without a hater atc would never win. |
16:58 |
nubbins` |
my pleasure to be a necessary cog |
16:58 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins, the necessary cog |
16:58 |
mircea_popescu |
sounds like a good title for a kids book |
16:58 |
ThickAsThieves |
its from that vampire movie |
16:58 |
nubbins` |
or a business card |
16:58 |
ThickAsThieves |
lost boys? |
16:58 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` or that. |
16:58 |
nubbins` |
best business card title i ever saw was "scrabble blank feeler" |
16:59 |
mircea_popescu |
da fuck is that ?! |
16:59 |
mod6 |
haha |
16:59 |
nubbins` |
heh. well you have played scrabble, yes? |
16:59 |
mircea_popescu |
i have. |
16:59 |
ThickAsThieves |
"cheater" |
16:59 |
nubbins` |
and players often put the tiles in a bag |
16:59 |
mircea_popescu |
i like playing "all languages scrabble" but generally people dont want to |
16:59 |
nubbins` |
the scrabble blank feeler takes an extra long time getting his tiles. |
16:59 |
mircea_popescu |
o i see |
17:00 |
mircea_popescu |
haha |
17:00 |
asciilifeform |
nope. this one - |
17:00 |
asciilifeform |
http://cooperostresh.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/myproof2.jpg%3Fw%3D620 |
17:00 |
nubbins` |
:D |
17:00 |
nubbins` |
brilliant, no? |
17:00 |
mircea_popescu |
this is verboten in my harem. |
17:00 |
nubbins` |
now that's a nice business card |
17:00 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform reminds me of an old blog post lemme see |
17:00 |
nubbins` |
perforated blotter art would make an amusing card too |
17:00 |
nubbins` |
"law-abiding citizen" |
17:01 |
asciilifeform |
or, |
17:01 |
asciilifeform |
http://hackadaycom.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/businesscard_01_08.png%3Fw%3D580%26h%3D352 |
17:01 |
mircea_popescu |
http://www.actsofgord.com/Chronicles/chapter36.php |
17:01 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` nah, Sovereign Druglord |
17:01 |
mircea_popescu |
in weird type and rainbow collors. |
17:01 |
mod6 |
yeah that one looks like mitnick's card: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-fx1mFaheb0o/ThBJ9EP0XhI/AAAAAAAAEkQ/RLNs2xcYz1g/s1600/106709219_6c8be9703b_z.jpg |
17:01 |
nubbins` |
heh. |
17:02 |
asciilifeform |
prisoners get cards? |
17:02 |
nubbins` |
"J. Keefe, sovereign" |
17:02 |
mod6 |
asciilifeform: post release |
17:02 |
asciilifeform |
the post-release one probably reads 'obedient peon' ? |
17:02 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` with a picture of a pinky ring o nthe back for the recipient to kiss |
17:03 |
nubbins` |
we want encryption, not a fucking bridge |
17:03 |
nubbins` |
that has a ring to it |
17:03 |
mircea_popescu |
ahahaha |
17:03 |
mod6 |
after he was released he was on Tech-TV or something and said, "yeah, its nice to be out... but i gotta wait like a year or something to get a cell phone... and I hvae this ankle bracelt for a few months.." |
17:03 |
asciilifeform |
obligatory russian drowning joke |
| |
↖ ↖ ↖ ↖ |
17:03 |
mircea_popescu |
do i know that one ? |
17:03 |
nubbins` |
ankle bracelet, fancy |
17:03 |
asciilifeform |
some time in medieval times, a father is leading his useless-mouth son to be drowned |
17:04 |
nubbins` |
house arrest is usually on the honor system here |
17:04 |
asciilifeform |
they pass an old man who says, 'don't drown this fellow. i'll feed him dumplings, he won't have to do any work but to dip them' |
| |
↖ ↖ ↖ ↖ ↖ |
17:04 |
asciilifeform |
son: 'whatdoyamean i gotta dip them' |
| |
↖ ↖ |
17:04 |
asciilifeform |
old man: 'drown him, father, drown, drown.' |
| |
↖ ↖ |
17:04 |
mircea_popescu |
o o o yeah! |
17:06 |
cazalla |
i enjoyed his book from 2-3 years ago |
17:06 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla: you could hit someone on the head if you could remember who you wanted to hit << epic. |
17:07 |
ThickAsThieves |
evoorhees seems to be posting on reddit lately |
17:07 |
ThickAsThieves |
doing panic control |
17:07 |
mircea_popescu |
jeez kako is on a roll. |
17:07 |
nubbins` |
ThickAsThieves: every time i hear "one of us" i think of that old movie "freaks" or w/e it's called |
17:08 |
nubbins` |
gooble gobble! |
17:08 |
nubbins` |
if kako was any sharper he'd cut himself |
17:08 |
ThickAsThieves |
the correct quote was "Drink this Michael. Become one of us" |
17:08 |
benkay |
rad illustration nubbins` |
17:08 |
ThickAsThieves |
had to look it up |
17:08 |
benkay |
being a stick figure is disappointing though |
17:09 |
nubbins` |
benkay, couldn't find my sketchbook OR a pen. threw me off. |
17:09 |
asciilifeform |
mitnick, the fellow who was kept in solitary because judge declared 'will start ww3 by whistling' ? |
17:09 |
jurov |
what does evoorhees and kakobrekla? i feel completely out of loop |
17:09 |
cazalla |
interesting that i ran into evoorhees prior to bitcoin (wickedfire) |
17:09 |
mircea_popescu |
<benkay> being a stick figure is disappointing though << talk to the cook. |
17:10 |
mircea_popescu |
say "woman, make me a sammich. god knows being a stick figure is disappointing enough" |
17:10 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov you seen teh log ? |
17:11 |
jurov |
no, fell hopelessly behind last few days |
17:11 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.00087257 = 9.162 BTC [-] {2} |
17:12 |
mircea_popescu |
dub: i like white wimminz << why is that ? |
17:13 |
ThickAsThieves |
better slime |
17:13 |
mircea_popescu |
is it ? |
17:13 |
ThickAsThieves |
i wouldnt know, the only time i had a chance with a black girl i wasnt single |
17:14 |
mircea_popescu |
i don't much like other race womenz. i mean creoles can be insanely hot, but otherwise, black, yellow, eskimo, w/e, they're all ugly. |
17:14 |
mircea_popescu |
and i imagined it's prolly the same for everyone. |
17:14 |
benkay |
http://openlibernet.org/faq.html |
17:14 |
ThickAsThieves |
i find other races hot too |
17:14 |
ozbot |
Frequently Asked Questions |
17:14 |
mircea_popescu |
(creole meaning in that sentence, woman with some white ancestry) |
17:15 |
mircea_popescu |
2. Whats wrong with the current internet? |
17:15 |
mircea_popescu |
Many things actually. First of all, it is important to remember that the internet didnt just come to be in its current form. |
17:15 |
mircea_popescu |
benkay sorry, disqualified |
17:15 |
mircea_popescu |
FOR STUPIDITY. |
17:15 |
nubbins` |
benkay, http://imgur.com/se0YPEr |
17:15 |
pankkake |
doesn't work without javascript |
17:15 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 7041 @ 0.00022942 = 1.6153 BTC [-] {11} |
17:15 |
nubbins` |
me shrugs |
17:15 |
pankkake |
that's what is wrong with the internet |
17:15 |
nubbins` |
me forgets the / |
17:16 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla:mp would argue with the bike thing. << how the fuck does he know that. |
17:16 |
benkay |
http://openlibernet.org/paper/open-libernet.pdf |
17:16 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla you've been fucking my womenz on the quiet ?! |
17:16 |
pankkake |
you wrote about bikes being an instrument of evil remember? |
17:16 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2262 @ 0.000229 = 0.518 BTC [-] {3} |
17:16 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.12849999 = 1.285 BTC [+] |
17:16 |
mircea_popescu |
o i did ? k. |
17:16 |
nubbins` |
ha. |
17:17 |
mircea_popescu |
people reading my blogz and drilling my womenz ON THE QUIET |
17:17 |
nubbins` |
can't very well do it on the loud |
17:17 |
kakobrekla |
id still double check on the womans thing. |
17:17 |
benkay |
mircea_popescu: it's got awful js and css - that's how you know REAL PROGRAMMERS built it |
17:17 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` why does your guy have bycicle wheels in his eye sockets dood |
17:17 |
benkay |
nubbins`: is that me? |
17:17 |
nubbins` |
benkay, mircea_popescu: artistic license |
17:18 |
mircea_popescu |
you know it suddenly dawned on me... nubbins can't actually draw. |
17:18 |
mircea_popescu |
i think he might be blind. |
17:18 |
nubbins` |
mircea_popescu: shh, don't tell the clients |
17:18 |
benkay |
mircea_popescu: why u no bikes? how ams evil? |
17:18 |
mircea_popescu |
benkay bikes make men impotent. walking makes girl ass and legs look great. |
17:18 |
mircea_popescu |
you sort it out. |
17:18 |
asciilifeform |
nubbins`: iosif vissarionovich! |
17:18 |
b00lcrap |
1234 |
17:18 |
bo0lcrap |
hey why shouldn't you fart in an apple store? |
17:19 |
bo0lcrap |
because they dont have windows! |
17:19 |
mircea_popescu |
because the metrosexuals may fall in love ? |
17:19 |
nubbins` |
heh. |
17:19 |
mircea_popescu |
mine's better. |
17:19 |
nubbins` |
anyway, regarding my ability to draw |
17:19 |
mircea_popescu |
what, is that a topic ? |
17:19 |
nubbins` |
is now! |
17:19 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.12849999 = 0.514 BTC [+] |
17:20 |
nubbins` |
there's a reason why i asked pascale to draw those heraldics and not me ;p |
17:20 |
mircea_popescu |
she never drew you ? |
17:20 |
asciilifeform |
"We are still at idea stage. Weve built a few simulations to test some parts of the system, but the main development hasnt begun. We have published our whitepaper, which explains.." |
17:20 |
nubbins` |
ooh, good one |
17:20 |
nubbins` |
she has, in fact, drawn me |
17:20 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform could this be merged into the yarvin thing ? |
17:21 |
nubbins` |
i'm not much for realism tho |
17:21 |
nubbins` |
takes too much talent |
17:21 |
asciilifeform |
it could just as easily be merged into Duke Nukem XXX. |
17:21 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` i however am much for criticism! |
17:21 |
nubbins` |
heh |
17:21 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform lmao. maybe it should. |
17:21 |
nubbins` |
well you'll be happy to know that the band lapped up my snorting-coffee-grounds image: |
17:21 |
nubbins` |
http://imgur.com/cXupn13 |
17:21 |
ozbot |
imgur: the simple image sharer |
17:21 |
nubbins` |
i even have a picture of a smiling hipster wearing it, one sec |
17:21 |
mircea_popescu |
its actually pretty good |
17:21 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 70 @ 0.0055 = 0.385 BTC |
17:22 |
mircea_popescu |
it takes decent advantage of your few strengths while carefully avoiding all your numerous weaknesses. |
17:22 |
benkay |
haha |
17:22 |
nubbins` |
sorry, n/m, the hipster is not smiling |
17:22 |
nubbins` |
http://imgur.com/sk35KYw |
17:22 |
ThickAsThieves |
lol |
17:22 |
nubbins` |
mircea_popescu: if i wanted to highlight my weaknesses i'd just print a photo of myself |
17:22 |
ozbot |
imgur: the simple image sharer |
17:22 |
ThickAsThieves |
cake makes hipsters sad |
17:22 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
17:22 |
nubbins` |
i know right? face full of sugar and still not happy |
17:23 |
nubbins` |
shit, maybe he's upset about the shirts. |
17:23 |
ThickAsThieves |
looks cool enough to me |
17:23 |
nubbins` |
i'm always a bit surprised when i'm given free reign on design |
17:24 |
nubbins` |
always expecting "how about this?" to be met with "the fuck is your problem, asshole?" |
17:24 |
mircea_popescu |
"what are these people thinking" |
17:24 |
nubbins` |
well, yes |
17:24 |
nubbins` |
what ARE they thinking |
17:25 |
ThickAsThieves |
do you design shirts for non-hipster businesses? |
17:25 |
ThickAsThieves |
i bet those people would complain |
17:25 |
nubbins` |
most legit businesses come to us with art |
17:25 |
mircea_popescu |
which is how he got the idea he can draw in the first place. |
17:25 |
mircea_popescu |
by looking at all that art. |
17:25 |
benkay |
"art" |
17:25 |
ThickAsThieves |
so mean! |
17:25 |
benkay |
to bring us back to a much much earlier topic |
17:25 |
mircea_popescu |
someone stole my f's again |
17:26 |
nubbins` |
looking fat all that art |
17:26 |
mircea_popescu |
haha good 1 |
17:26 |
ThickAsThieves |
loo king fat all tha tart |
17:26 |
nubbins` |
make no mistake, i do not operate under the assumption that i can draw |
17:26 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves this is el englisho, doesn't spello like thato./ |
17:27 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` just under the hope that others can't tell ? |
17:27 |
nubbins` |
has worked reasonably well so far, this approach |
17:27 |
ThickAsThieves |
it's performance art, people just buy souvenirs |
17:27 |
mircea_popescu |
if anyone ever asks me to back up assertions about collapsing standards in education i am definitely linking this in support. |
17:27 |
nubbins` |
hey, hold on now. i didn't go to art school |
17:27 |
mircea_popescu |
and btw, we need to start selling -asset tickets, this shit's too much fun. |
17:28 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` not for you, for the viewers. |
17:28 |
nubbins` |
aha. |
17:28 |
nubbins` |
was waiting for "no, really?" |
17:28 |
mircea_popescu |
sidestepped :D |
17:28 |
nubbins` |
graciously |
17:28 |
mircea_popescu |
sarcasm is the lowest form of wit, you know. |
17:28 |
nubbins` |
no, really? |
17:28 |
nubbins` |
:DDDDD |
17:28 |
ThickAsThieves |
my english teacher told me puns are |
17:29 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves i bet your english teacher never got lied. |
17:29 |
nubbins` |
lights blinking and wind picking up, gonna try to fry some salmon while i still can. |
17:29 |
benkay |
american english teachers know neither english nor how to teach. |
17:29 |
ThickAsThieves |
he was a hideous creature of form and mind |
17:29 |
mircea_popescu |
imagine if he's from the hillbilly country and his parents are Form and Mindy |
17:30 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00087494 = 7.262 BTC [+] |
17:30 |
ThickAsThieves |
not punny |
17:30 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, has the esteemed & most serene college of the assets read my recent poem ? |
17:30 |
mircea_popescu |
pls to say nice things for else i'm cutting. |
17:30 |
ThickAsThieves |
;;google trilema writes a poem |
17:30 |
gribble |
Romanian Dicelist pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/romanian-dicelist>; Lewis's trilemma - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis's_trilemma>; C. S. Lewis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C._S._Lewis> |
17:31 |
mircea_popescu |
;;google trilema the letter third |
17:31 |
gribble |
Lewis's trilemma - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis's_trilemma>; Free exchange: A trio of trilemmas | The Economist: <http://www.economist.com/news/finance-and-economics/21580452-gold-standard-holds-worrying-lessons-single-currency-trio>; Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/> |
17:31 |
asciilifeform |
i read it. needs a part II. |
17:31 |
mircea_popescu |
google is so fucking borkt... |
17:31 |
asciilifeform |
where the sultan meets his fate. |
17:31 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform http://www.romanianvoice.com/poezii/poezii/scrisoarea3.php if you care |
17:32 |
mircea_popescu |
the 2nd part is not about the sultan (which is duly forgotten), but about how pissed off the author is with the current environment |
17:32 |
mircea_popescu |
cca 1880 he was distraught that people learn jack shit in school and everyone's lazy and stupid and wtf is this politics conspiraci of nonsense. |
17:32 |
asciilifeform |
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/50/Ilja_Jefimowitsch_Repin_009.jpg |
17:33 |
asciilifeform |
for anyone who never saw. |
17:33 |
benkay |
sottisier needs linking to bash.*, mircea_popescu |
17:33 |
mircea_popescu |
something like that. |
17:33 |
mircea_popescu |
benkay lol |
17:33 |
mircea_popescu |
don't be so mean, there's loads of smart things in there. |
17:34 |
mircea_popescu |
http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=3 |
17:34 |
benkay |
ah then then the forum |
17:34 |
benkay |
yeah that in particular |
17:35 |
ozbot |
#bitcoin-assets bash |
17:36 |
pankkake |
sottisier ? |
17:36 |
mircea_popescu |
cads what i want to know is when the fuck did romanian and cabbage get identified. what, cause cluj cabbage ? |
17:36 |
mircea_popescu |
pankkake certes. |
17:36 |
mircea_popescu |
nowai. |
17:37 |
mircea_popescu |
from ME ?! |
17:37 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28100 @ 0.00087224 = 24.5099 BTC [-] {2} |
17:37 |
pankkake |
from benkay technically |
17:38 |
benkay |
ZING |
17:38 |
mircea_popescu |
fu benkay stealer of my things. |
17:38 |
pankkake |
if only your posts weren't that long, I would read them sooner |
17:38 |
benkay |
yup |
17:39 |
Mats_cd03 |
can i have the sword |
17:39 |
mircea_popescu |
(which, incidentally, is a film with paolo villaggio |
17:39 |
pankkake |
does he lose his XP too? |
17:39 |
benkay |
i don't imitate, mircea_popescu i steap. |
17:39 |
benkay |
steal* |
17:40 |
benkay |
i begin to understand why offices work |
17:40 |
mircea_popescu |
pankkake no, that he keeps |
17:40 |
benkay |
you're responsible for the distractions roaming around |
17:40 |
Mats_cd03 |
i tried to buy a .jp relic once, dealer tried to gouge me for $5k |
17:41 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [COG.F] 1 @ 2 BTC [+] |
17:41 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: lucky me, turned up, http://lib.rus.ec/b/363206/read#n_49 |
| |
↖ |
17:41 |
Mats_cd03 |
found a replica that was better than the real thing on ebay for $200 |
17:42 |
Mats_cd03 |
although the replica didnt kill hundreds of chinese so i guess its inferior tbh |
17:42 |
mircea_popescu |
И, роняя капли света, словно брызги дождевые, |
17:42 |
mircea_popescu |
От восхода до заката встали радуги ночные. |
17:42 |
mircea_popescu |
you know that's not so bad. |
17:43 |
benkay |
you can always imbue your replica with that property, though, Mats_cd03 |
17:43 |
benkay |
anyways that kind of property is kind of unique and so therefore probably worth in excess of 5k |
17:43 |
benkay |
that's what, less than an mpex seat? |
17:43 |
benkay |
sounds like a deal. |
17:44 |
Mats_cd03 |
it was a relic owned by a descendant of a .jp soldier in nanjing |
17:44 |
benkay |
"how many human lives is an mpex seat worth" |
17:44 |
mircea_popescu |
o it's the old soviet translation isn't it. |
17:44 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah they actually put a lot of effort into getting it right for some reason. |
17:44 |
Mats_cd03 |
definitely worth more than 5k |
17:44 |
asciilifeform |
Mats_cd03: ww2 jp. swords suck (the issued ones, not the familial relics some of the nobles carried) |
17:45 |
asciilifeform |
not even reall japanese in style. more or less copies of eur. cavalry sabers of late 19th |
17:45 |
asciilifeform |
i thought serious sword folks knew that. |
17:45 |
Mats_cd03 |
ya i thought so, so i picked up a carbon fibre weapon made with modern techniques |
17:45 |
benkay |
read it |
17:45 |
benkay |
thing is most humans are totally fungible |
17:45 |
Mats_cd03 |
i have no expertise in that sort of thing, i meant to buy it as a gift for a colleague |
17:45 |
mircea_popescu |
teh sheeple!11 |
17:46 |
mircea_popescu |
Mats_cd03 why'd you buy things you don't know to make gifts ? |
17:46 |
benkay |
the upper end of skill experience and what have ye isn't but that's a vanishingly small slice. |
17:46 |
mircea_popescu |
putting your friend in the awkward position of having been vicariously scammed doesn't seem like much of a gift |
17:46 |
Mats_cd03 |
dude was a huge sword buff and owned all sorts of probably illegal war trophies |
17:47 |
mircea_popescu |
so therefore your odds of giving him something he doesn't think is shit are... <0.0001% ? |
17:47 |
Mats_cd03 |
well i expected him to know the shit gift i bought him was shit |
17:47 |
mircea_popescu |
oic. |
17:47 |
benkay |
300 bucks'll get you a pretty nice bottle of wine, Mats_cd03. |
17:48 |
Mats_cd03 |
the garbage wine he drinks is more than that |
17:48 |
benkay |
if you can avoid getting scammed ;) |
17:48 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7442 @ 0.00087201 = 6.4895 BTC [-] {2} |
17:48 |
Mats_cd03 |
how do you buy gifts for someone who has everything |
17:48 |
Mats_cd03 |
i mean... besides a vagina purse |
17:48 |
Mats_cd03 |
http://craftastrophe.net/2008/11/keep-your-money-safe-in-your-vagina/ |
17:48 |
ozbot |
Keep Your Money Safe – in Your Vagina | Craftastrophe |
17:48 |
mircea_popescu |
wait this was a woman ? |
17:49 |
Mats_cd03 |
no lol |
17:49 |
benkay |
human belt. |
17:49 |
benkay |
whoopie cushin |
17:49 |
benkay |
cushion |
17:51 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins`: hey, fuck you guys << lawl. |
17:51 |
mircea_popescu |
i cant believe after all you nuts picking on poor nubsy i came in and picked him off as new. |
17:52 |
mircea_popescu |
all that's missing is herbi driving a jet over his cat or something. |
17:52 |
ThickAsThieves |
mp the Like button and +1 button are missing from trilema |
17:52 |
ThickAsThieves |
how can i express myself without expressing myself? |
17:52 |
benkay |
oh yeah also while we're on the topic your discus implementation is fucking horrendous too |
17:53 |
benkay |
disqus* |
17:53 |
ThickAsThieves |
also where's your keyword cloud |
17:53 |
ThickAsThieves |
so useful those things |
17:53 |
mircea_popescu |
o yeah ? well i had sex with your wife! |
17:54 |
benkay |
yeah man keyword clouds are where its at |
17:54 |
benkay |
get with the 2004 mang |
17:54 |
mircea_popescu |
(the cannonical is, "his wife has cancer") |
17:54 |
mircea_popescu |
it's from the shrimpstore seinfeld episode. |
17:54 |
mircea_popescu |
http://www.seinology.com/scripts/script-147.shtml |
17:54 |
ozbot |
Seinology.com :: Scripts :: 147-The Comeback |
17:55 |
mircea_popescu |
bah fuck me, "his wife is in a coma". |
17:56 |
ThickAsThieves |
lol |
17:56 |
ThickAsThieves |
even better |
17:56 |
ThickAsThieves |
saying she's dead wouldnt be as funny either |
17:56 |
mircea_popescu |
nope. |
17:56 |
mircea_popescu |
they really polished those scripts. |
17:56 |
mircea_popescu |
you don't realise this on the first pass, watching it or w/e, but just try as a cw exercise to improve on them. |
17:57 |
ThickAsThieves |
i find tv shows to be increasingly predictable, i dont just mean boring |
17:57 |
cazalla |
curb is better |
17:57 |
ThickAsThieves |
i mean like where foreshadowing is painfully obvious |
17:58 |
ThickAsThieves |
or like how they use almost famous actors as cameo villians |
17:59 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33245 @ 0.00087525 = 29.0977 BTC [+] {3} |
17:59 |
Vexual |
asciilifeform: nothing wrong with ww2 japanese swords, good factory steel relinquished in shame |
17:59 |
benkay |
curb? CURB?! |
17:59 |
benkay |
show is miserable. |
18:00 |
benkay |
awkward comedy at its worst. |
18:00 |
benkay |
nobody on that show can tell a joke. |
18:00 |
benkay |
maybe the joke is on me expecting comedy |
18:01 |
ThickAsThieves |
it's the Altcoin of comedy shows |
18:01 |
ThickAsThieves |
"is this a joke?" |
18:02 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla curb is atrocious. |
18:02 |
mircea_popescu |
"bro do you even joke ?" |
18:03 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves yeah, well, that'd be a funcrtion of you growing less retarded over time. |
18:04 |
mircea_popescu |
like for instance the mtgox thing ? totally impredictable and shocking for a few people. |
18:04 |
mircea_popescu |
somewhere. |
18:04 |
benkay |
<benkay> so gox: criminally incompetent? criminals? or just incompetent? |
18:04 |
benkay |
[18:30] |
18:04 |
benkay |
<donpdonp> i cant tell which |
18:04 |
benkay |
i know some |
18:04 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 46 @ 0.00296 = 0.1362 BTC [-] |
18:04 |
mircea_popescu |
you're promiscuous :D |
18:05 |
benkay |
disregarded me for months |
18:05 |
benkay |
not terribly, it's the local btc irc channel |
18:05 |
benkay |
reptations get built in more places than -assets |
18:05 |
benkay |
and AND |
18:05 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30100 @ 0.00087198 = 26.2466 BTC [-] {2} |
18:05 |
benkay |
i wear condoms. |
18:05 |
benkay |
so it's okay baby |
18:06 |
mircea_popescu |
boys should b e promiscuous anyway. |
18:06 |
benkay |
hear hear |
18:06 |
benkay |
what about men? |
18:06 |
mircea_popescu |
"The term can carry a moral judgement and is viewed in the context of a mainstream social ideal for sexual activity to occur within exclusive committed relationships." |
18:06 |
mircea_popescu |
ahahaha wikipedia is grand. |
18:07 |
mircea_popescu |
"i know! let's give a bunch of clueless twits the unwarranted, indefensible idea that what they know and think is universal, and then let's have them write it all out. |
18:07 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 65 @ 0.00297498 = 0.1934 BTC [+] |
18:07 |
mircea_popescu |
educated, intelligent people everywhere will be entertained." |
18:07 |
mircea_popescu |
"for free." |
18:08 |
benkay |
britannica or gtfo |
18:08 |
cazalla |
mircea_popescu: because it's jewish? |
18:08 |
benkay |
and i mean the actual fucking bound volumes. |
18:08 |
mircea_popescu |
nah |
18:08 |
nubbins` |
<mircea_popescu> i cant believe after all you nuts picking on poor nubsy i came in and picked him off as new. |
18:09 |
nubbins` |
i can't even get a break! |
18:09 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-02-2014#487596 |
18:09 |
ozbot |
#bitcoin-assets log |
18:09 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla weren;t you from down under ? |
18:09 |
nubbins` |
earlier i was asking some guy about encryption and he starts going off about bridges! |
18:09 |
cazalla |
mircea_popescu: yes |
18:10 |
mircea_popescu |
jesus, herbi is the proximate cause for me trying to rewatch that crud, cause he also claimed it's better than seinfeld. |
18:10 |
mircea_popescu |
and he's also from there. |
18:10 |
mircea_popescu |
you people must have really brainrotting tv or something. |
18:10 |
nubbins` |
curb is funny if you think watching adults endure horrendously awkward situations is funny |
18:10 |
benkay |
he's also a wannabe quant computer guy |
18:10 |
nubbins` |
if you don't, well, it just isn't |
18:10 |
mircea_popescu |
but they suck. they can't act, they aren't funny. |
18:10 |
benkay |
and i think into anime shit as well. |
18:10 |
mircea_popescu |
i'd rather watch the surveillance cam |
18:10 |
cazalla |
curb is better than seinfeld |
18:10 |
benkay |
oh shit herbi's into some wackness |
18:10 |
nubbins` |
mircea_popescu, that's the thing. they're not even trying to act |
18:11 |
mircea_popescu |
hm, maybe that's what it is, the curb thing is funny for people who don't have access to surveillance cams, |
18:11 |
benkay |
he and Vexual were wanking each other off the nother night. |
18:11 |
nubbins` |
benkay :0 |
18:11 |
benkay |
it was vile |
18:11 |
benkay |
anime music videos |
18:11 |
benkay |
horrible house music |
18:11 |
nubbins` |
oof |
18:11 |
mircea_popescu |
at least it wasn't dub step. |
18:11 |
benkay |
eh |
18:11 |
benkay |
i've done too many drugs with dubstep playing to care about it anymore |
18:12 |
nubbins` |
(dub: don't want to be paged? don't choose a nick that's a genre of music) |
18:12 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: having loads of fun with herr eminescu. |
18:12 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` dun worry, he knows i only do it to bother him |
18:12 |
pankkake |
dubsteb isn't all bad. just ignore the mainstream |
18:12 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform hey, write a russian variant! |
18:12 |
nubbins` |
dubstep, aka run some techno through a VCF |
18:12 |
mircea_popescu |
dubstep is okay if you're into fucking fifteen year olds. |
18:12 |
nubbins` |
and tweak the cutoff & peak knobs so it goes WOM WOM |
18:13 |
benkay |
well once upon a time |
18:13 |
benkay |
can't get away with it anymore |
18:13 |
davout |
wow: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-02-16/money-launderer-until-proven-innocent-italy-imposes-20-tax-withholding-all-inbound-m |
18:13 |
benkay |
mircea_popescu: ^^ |
18:13 |
nubbins` |
dubstep is essentially "i bought a bunch of Moog modules and can't be fucked to learn how to use any of them" |
18:13 |
mircea_popescu |
i could but srsly... i prefer tits and a nicely formed hip-thigh complex. |
18:13 |
benkay |
nubbins`: nobody buys moog modules and so therefore has no incentive to actually learn them |
18:13 |
benkay |
no investment of money, no investment of time. |
18:13 |
benkay |
"why are these tools so hard bawwww" |
18:14 |
nubbins` |
heh. |
18:14 |
mircea_popescu |
italy is pretty much bankrupt. |
18:14 |
mircea_popescu |
how is this news ? |
18:14 |
nubbins` |
you have a point, they're doing it all with softsynths |
18:14 |
mircea_popescu |
italy has never, ever, at any poiint in its history, been able to pay the bills. |
18:14 |
mircea_popescu |
while the austrians paid for them, italy existed, then it didn't |
18:14 |
Vexual |
when in rome |
18:14 |
mircea_popescu |
then hitler took over, |
18:14 |
mircea_popescu |
then they didn't. |
18:14 |
mircea_popescu |
then germany took over, now they don't... |
18:14 |
nubbins` |
altho i suspect the "free" vs "$10k+" thing is a deciding factor when choosing softsynths over modulars too |
18:14 |
pankkake |
well most of the "dubstep" I like is closer to drum and bass. still… |
18:15 |
mircea_popescu |
it's not going to end. italians are willing to spend your money or starve. either way. |
18:15 |
pankkake |
eh, you can find 5-minute howto dubstep on youtube |
18:15 |
benkay |
nubbins`: that's precisely the problem. when people can't be arsed to figure out how to get their tools to make money, they don't arse themselves to grok the tools either. |
18:15 |
nubbins` |
pankkake, that's the problem |
18:15 |
Mats_cd03 |
https://soundcloud.com/whiiite/luniz-i-got-5-on-it-whiiite-x |
18:15 |
nubbins` |
10k "producers" watching a 5 minute tutorial on youtube and "releasing tracks" |
18:16 |
benkay |
if the tools are free, why develop competence when everyone else you know hacking on them is just as incompetent as yourself? |
18:16 |
Mats_cd03 |
if you feel gangster listening to this trap mix... we are in agreement |
18:16 |
pankkake |
so dubstep songs are like altcoins |
18:16 |
benkay |
all techno is cryptocoins |
18:16 |
nubbins` |
pankkake sort of, but more people take dubstep seriously |
18:16 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 202 @ 0.00084 = 0.1697 BTC [+] |
18:17 |
nubbins` |
and i suspect altcoins are no fun on club drugs |
18:17 |
nubbins` |
mircea_popescu, did you send those atc yet? |
18:17 |
mircea_popescu |
which atc ? the atc you never said you wanted ? |
18:17 |
cads |
behold the amazing power of 40,000 trolls to play pokemon for three days straight via random button presses: http://www.twitch.tv/twitchplayspokemon |
18:17 |
assbot |
AMAZING COMPANY! |
18:17 |
cads |
AMAZING |
18:17 |
nubbins` |
hey, i never said i didn't want em |
18:17 |
nubbins` |
i even gave you most of an address |
18:17 |
pankkake |
https://soundcloud.com/betamorph/logam-your-mom-makes-dubstep |
18:17 |
Mats_cd03 |
i imagine youd have to be doped up to care about altcoins |
18:18 |
mircea_popescu |
lolk |
18:18 |
nubbins` |
send as many as you want |
18:18 |
mircea_popescu |
cads i thought pokemon was a cartoon series. |
18:18 |
nubbins` |
Mats_cd03: oh, you might be onto something there |
18:18 |
Mats_cd03 |
it was a game first i thought |
18:18 |
cads |
mircea_popescu: I'm not sure what came first, the video game nerd or the egg. |
18:19 |
mircea_popescu |
aok. |
18:19 |
Vexual |
altcoin, not altcoins |
18:19 |
Mats_cd03 |
wtf am i listening to pankkake |
18:19 |
pankkake |
Mats_cd03: the impaled northern moonforest of dubstep |
18:19 |
benkay |
i'll take nubbins`' altcoins |
18:19 |
nubbins` |
you'll take them if your address starts with 1AltcoinSucksCocks |
18:19 |
Vexual |
altcoin is the plural! |
18:20 |
benkay |
shut up Vexual |
18:20 |
mircea_popescu |
A scientific study published in 2005 found that promiscuous men and women are judged equally harshly and a recent poll showed that both genders tend to express strong preference for sexually conservative partners. |
18:20 |
mircea_popescu |
dude this is absurd. |
18:20 |
Mats_cd03 |
this is the worst thing i have listened to in months |
18:20 |
CiPi |
Real men use real things. :) Like bitcoin, not altcoin. |
18:20 |
CiPi |
loosers use altcoins. |
18:20 |
mircea_popescu |
someone prefers sexually conservative parties, somewhere in that africa over there across the atlantic ?! |
18:21 |
benkay |
doncha know mircea_popescu |
18:21 |
benkay |
we all sit around and talk about what kind of sex we'd like to have |
18:21 |
benkay |
get all horny |
18:21 |
benkay |
and then go home |
18:21 |
pankkake |
but it's not altcoins, it's Altcoin |
18:22 |
nubbins` |
1AltcoinSucksCocks0123456789abcdef |
18:22 |
nubbins` |
there we go |
18:22 |
benkay |
pankkake: just transfer the coins nubbins` is throwing away to my account under your mgmt plz |
18:22 |
nubbins` |
the fuck is this, an auction? |
18:23 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
18:23 |
benkay |
it's sunday in -assets! |
18:23 |
benkay |
#musical number begins |
18:23 |
nubbins` |
i am entitled to my entitlements! |
18:23 |
benkay |
you guys we need a stage musical |
18:23 |
mircea_popescu |
benkay i'm not giving preciously minted atc to the heathens! |
18:23 |
TATwalking |
I tell ya tho software producing takes a shit ton of time to get good at |
18:23 |
benkay |
wait i'm no heathen |
18:23 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18583 @ 0.0008743 = 16.2471 BTC [+] |
18:23 |
nubbins` |
TATwalking, this is why so few are good at it |
18:24 |
benkay |
this stage musical would have GLBSE |
18:24 |
benkay |
Colored Coins |
18:24 |
benkay |
Amir Taaki |
18:24 |
nubbins` |
"i'm a producer" can almost universally be responded to with "no you're not" |
18:24 |
benkay |
all as like transient guests that occasionally show up and say nonsensical things |
18:24 |
Vexual |
lol |
18:25 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` or with "it'll still cost you 70 for half and half" |
18:25 |
nubbins` |
hah. |
18:25 |
mircea_popescu |
he's not a producer, she is a whore, honesty all the way. |
18:25 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 191 @ 0.00084157 = 0.1607 BTC [+] {2} |
18:25 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.1285 BTC [+] |
18:26 |
nubbins` |
"altcoin: the commodity so valuable that people don't even want others throwing theirs away" |
18:26 |
mircea_popescu |
i paid good satoshis for that stuff i'll have you know. |
18:26 |
TATwalking |
I dodge the occasional tree :) |
18:26 |
nubbins` |
tell that to my empty atc address! |
18:27 |
Apocalyptic |
nubbins`, then buy some |
18:27 |
nubbins` |
Apocalyptic, i think you missed the point by about 5km |
18:27 |
Apocalyptic |
yeah i must admit haven't read the scroll |
18:27 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 31 @ 0.0055 = 0.1705 BTC |
18:27 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 50 @ 0.06913778 = 3.4569 BTC [-] {4} |
18:27 |
mircea_popescu |
Apocalyptic few do. |
18:28 |
mircea_popescu |
it's five hours a day. |
18:28 |
nubbins` |
i was bequeathed some atc and now can't get anybody to follow through! |
18:28 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` because you were a smartass with derpy nonaddresses |
18:28 |
nubbins` |
totally is an address. |
18:28 |
nubbins` |
there's what, 2^9 private keys that will generate that address |
18:28 |
TATwalking |
now you must shoe on head |
18:28 |
mircea_popescu |
longest vanity in history. |
18:29 |
nubbins` |
well, 1MatthewNWrightIsAScammer was taken |
18:29 |
mircea_popescu |
obviously nubbins` did not read the protocol enough to know about the checksum. |
18:29 |
nubbins` |
OOOOOH |
18:29 |
nubbins` |
well fuck me |
18:29 |
mircea_popescu |
noty, but i did lel all the way/ |
18:29 |
nubbins` |
heh |
18:29 |
nubbins` |
isn't my face red! |
18:29 |
benkay |
i thought it was mostly white with some tatooos |
18:29 |
nubbins` |
guess i better go read up &c &c |
18:29 |
mircea_popescu |
ppl come to this chan thinking they're real smart all the time. |
18:29 |
nubbins` |
benkay, heh |
18:29 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1980 @ 0.00043849 = 0.8682 BTC [-] |
18:30 |
mircea_popescu |
we're kinda used to it. |
18:30 |
nubbins` |
tbf i came to this chan with no such delusion |
18:30 |
mircea_popescu |
why be fair ? |
18:30 |
nubbins` |
it's all that separates us from the savages |
18:30 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: "На коне своем любимом Мирча в самой гуще боя, / Он ведет свою лавину, попирая все живое." |
18:31 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [COG.F] 1 @ 2 BTC [+] |
18:31 |
TATwalking |
that and the Canadian border |
18:31 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform i know i know, it's very flattering. |
18:31 |
nubbins` |
TATwalking: unfortunately, we let americans through all the time |
18:31 |
asciilifeform |
named after this fellow? |
18:31 |
mircea_popescu |
the actual subject is mircea the old, http://istoriiregasite.wordpress.com/2012/06/08/cine-a-fost-mircea-si-de-ce-i-s-a-spus-cel-batran/ |
18:31 |
asciilifeform |
aha. |
18:31 |
mircea_popescu |
well no, named after my father. |
18:32 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.06720001 = 0.5376 BTC [+] |
18:32 |
nubbins` |
the only instance i can recall that a canadian went the other way is when that guy swam from windsor to detroit after slamming 8 beers, to see if he could |
18:32 |
nubbins` |
(he could) |
18:32 |
Vexual |
thats called@ after breakfast@ here |
18:32 |
TATwalking |
and birner |
18:32 |
TATwalking |
bieber |
18:33 |
mircea_popescu |
TATwalking stop derping with your smartphone and pick up women |
18:33 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.128625 = 0.5145 BTC [+] {2} |
18:33 |
mircea_popescu |
that's what walks are for. |
18:33 |
TATwalking |
lol |
18:33 |
TATwalking |
these are too heavy |
18:33 |
nubbins` |
the women? |
18:33 |
TATwalking |
:) |
18:33 |
Vexual |
hes carrying two desktops |
18:34 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00297498 = 0.2975 BTC [+] |
18:34 |
nubbins` |
one for irc, one for ___ |
18:34 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform technically Mircea însuşi mână-n luptă vijelia-ngrozitoare, Care vine, vine, vine, calcă totul în picioare; is mircea himself leads into battle the fearsome tempest that coming, coming, coming, tramples everything underfoot. |
18:34 |
mircea_popescu |
they didn't have cgi in the 1800s, and you can almost see how much they'd have liked it |
18:34 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: more or less exactly. |
18:34 |
mircea_popescu |
by all the effort they put into verbaly emmulating it |
18:34 |
asciilifeform |
hell, Homer does just this. |
18:35 |
mircea_popescu |
indeed. |
18:35 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.06720001 = 0.2688 BTC [+] |
18:35 |
nubbins` |
turns out dickens didn't go on about the grocers for the word count |
18:37 |
nubbins` |
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/john-morillo-windsor-man-who-swam-across-detroit-river-regrets-it-1.2476250 |
18:38 |
ozbot |
John Morillo, Windsor man who swam across Detroit River, regrets it - Windsor - CBC News |
18:39 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: love the ending. |
18:40 |
mircea_popescu |
remarkably reusable for 150 yo code. |
18:40 |
asciilifeform |
always had a soft spot for herr Tepes. |
18:40 |
Namworld |
Fun gif: http://i.imgur.com/RNW1vdF.gif |
18:41 |
mircea_popescu |
you mean the actual vlad or the other vlad dracul guy ? |
18:41 |
asciilifeform |
actual. |
18:41 |
asciilifeform |
the one who knew what to do with turks. |
18:41 |
mircea_popescu |
he beheaded a bunch of medieval jpm&co bankers |
18:41 |
benkay |
that's intense Namworld |
18:41 |
mircea_popescu |
as a result got a pretty bad wrap in the english language press of the time |
18:42 |
mircea_popescu |
which was german. |
18:42 |
benkay |
mircea_popescu: "bad rap" |
18:42 |
benkay |
as in rap sheet, arrest history |
18:42 |
Namworld |
It sure is... |
18:43 |
mircea_popescu |
that'd be the literal. |
18:45 |
mircea_popescu |
Kazıklı Bey haha good one. |
18:46 |
WillTablet |
Hello |
18:47 |
benkay |
welcome |
18:47 |
WillTablet |
I gave myself a challenge - break even on the $18 worth of server I used to mine about 0.007 BTC worth of dogecoin |
18:47 |
benkay |
and? |
18:47 |
WillTablet |
And I'm pretty interested to see how it ends up |
18:48 |
nubbins` |
:/ |
18:48 |
nubbins` |
anti-climax |
18:48 |
benkay |
;;ticker |
18:48 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 625.66, Best ask: 625.68, Bid-ask spread: 0.02000, Last trade: 625.68, 24 hour volume: 26319.78171749, 24 hour low: 590.01, 24 hour high: 670.0, 24 hour vwap: 627.53549918 |
18:48 |
WillTablet |
Ima try and get some of it back, I prolly won't break even |
18:48 |
benkay |
;;calc 623 * 0.007 |
18:48 |
gribble |
4.361 |
18:48 |
WillTablet |
Ima lend it to a reputable borrower on btcjam or something |
18:48 |
benkay |
why not just learn the lesson, WillTablet? |
18:49 |
benkay |
you're only out like 12 buck |
18:49 |
WillTablet |
During the loan period, I will read up on shares and economics |
18:49 |
nubbins` |
reputable borrower |
18:49 |
benkay |
hey WillTablet let me give you a bit of insight |
18:49 |
WillTablet |
Go ahead |
18:49 |
nubbins` |
if there's one thing that speaks to a man's repute, it's his constant need of loans |
18:49 |
pankkake |
is btcjam like coinlenders? |
18:49 |
benkay |
in ten years that 0.007 BTC will be worth several x your dollars |
18:50 |
benkay |
without any risk due to lending it out. |
18:50 |
WillTablet |
True |
18:50 |
mircea_popescu |
pankkake it;s more like a logical continuation of glbse. |
18:50 |
mircea_popescu |
they came out with figures at some point that on average 30% of loans were delinquent. |
18:50 |
mircea_popescu |
(course ignoramuses that they are, it was a victorious point of pride) |
18:50 |
nubbins` |
almost 70% of loans repaid! |
18:51 |
WillTablet |
benkay: if that's the case, why does anyone invest? I want to do it as an experiment, and expect to lose it all |
18:51 |
asciilifeform |
'Filtration System, a Marvel to Behold! It Removes 80% of Human Solid Waste!' |
18:51 |
benkay |
if you expect to lose it, why bother? |
18:51 |
benkay |
if you want to actually invest it, put it into MPEx. |
18:51 |
benkay |
it's a really good question, WillTablet. |
18:51 |
nubbins` |
yeah, put 0.0007 btc into mpex |
18:51 |
WillTablet |
Sarcasm? |
18:51 |
nubbins` |
yes |
18:52 |
nubbins` |
altho i think benkay was srs |
18:52 |
benkay |
the fundamental assumption is that a given operation will grow in value faster than btc. |
18:52 |
ThickAsThieves |
i saw a btcjam presentation once, he was surprisingly transparent |
18:52 |
ThickAsThieves |
considering how ba dthe numbers are |
18:52 |
benkay |
eh semi serious |
18:52 |
benkay |
kiddo doesn't know mpex |
18:52 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00087198 = 4.8831 BTC [-] |
18:52 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform the point there being that there's a point of delinquency where loan packages become unworthy. all this is old fiat finance grease. |
18:52 |
mircea_popescu |
like you know, knowing what a space cadet kbd is. |
18:52 |
benkay |
0.007'd get et by jurov's fees instantly right? |
18:52 |
WillTablet |
mpex costs like 30 BTC a seat though |
18:52 |
benkay |
WillTablet: http://coinbr.com, although i think fees would eat you alive |
18:53 |
nubbins` |
i think the min deposit is more than that |
18:53 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: fave story re: tepes: 'Некогда же обедоваше под трупием мертвых человек, иже на колие саженых, множество бо округ стола его; он же среди их ядяше и тем услажашеся. Слуга же его, иже пред ним ясти ставляше, смраду оного не могии тер |
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18:53 |
asciilifeform |
пети и заткну нос и на страну главу свою склони. Он же вопроси его: "что ради тако чинишь?" Он же отвеща государю: "не могу смрада сего терпети". Дракула же ту и повеле его на кол всадити, глаголя: "тамо ти есть высоко жити, смрад не м |
18:53 |
ThickAsThieves |
i imagine btcjam will be end up as proportionally unpopular as Prosper.com |
18:53 |
asciilifeform |
ожеть тебе доити".' (old russ. from http://www.old-russian.chat.ru/09drakula.htm) |
18:53 |
benkay |
your alternative is to throw it away on scams that don't have fees because they're not really businesses. |
18:53 |
ThickAsThieves |
-be |
18:53 |
ThickAsThieves |
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/15/us-germany-france-idUSBREA1E0IG20140215 |
18:53 |
benkay |
if you want to learn investing, borrow some money from your parents WillTablet and put it into Tesla. |
18:53 |
benkay |
some into us treasury bonds |
18:53 |
ozbot |
Merkel, Hollande to discuss European communication network avoiding U.S. |
18:54 |
asciilifeform |
translation: 'once dining under the corpses of men, those impaled on stakes, many sat around his table, dining among him and in this taking plasure. servant of his, placing food before him, could not endure the stench, |
18:54 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves i never heard of prosper.com |
18:54 |
ThickAsThieves |
tsla is a pretty nicely volatile stock to play with |
18:54 |
ThickAsThieves |
now you have! |
18:54 |
nubbins` |
but bitcoin gives my portfolio all the volatility that i need |
18:54 |
ThickAsThieves |
it's pretty old |
18:54 |
WillTablet |
benkay: heh my parents wouldn't let me |
18:54 |
asciilifeform |
and plugged his nose and turned his head. lord asked him, 'why do you this.' answered he: 'cannot endure the stench'. |
18:54 |
WillTablet |
I'm actually lending money to them atm |
18:55 |
benkay |
sounds like a rat fuck of bad decisions, WillTablet |
18:55 |
benkay |
why are you doing that? |
18:55 |
ThickAsThieves |
lend money to parents? |
18:55 |
ThickAsThieves |
just give it |
18:55 |
asciilifeform |
drakula ordered the man sat upon the stake, taller than others: 'high is this place, you will live free of the stench there.' |
18:55 |
nubbins` |
rat fuck, i like that |
18:55 |
asciilifeform |
(end of trans.) |
18:55 |
benkay |
they'll take it from you when they're old and dying anyways. |
18:55 |
mircea_popescu |
hehe |
18:55 |
WillTablet |
They are giving me something like 3% interest, might be 5 actually |
18:55 |
benkay |
more likely -100%. |
18:56 |
WillTablet |
I might play about with investopedia |
18:56 |
benkay |
*sigh* |
18:56 |
benkay |
have fun, kid. |
18:56 |
ThickAsThieves |
question, did any of you tell your parents to buy btc? |
18:56 |
benkay |
yup. |
18:56 |
nubbins` |
yes |
18:57 |
ThickAsThieves |
and did they? |
18:57 |
nubbins` |
no |
18:57 |
kakobrekla |
i got mine in at 5$. |
18:57 |
benkay |
good man |
18:57 |
nubbins` |
gave my dad a casascius coin for his birthday one year |
18:57 |
benkay |
mine were burning retirement capital until 6 months ago |
18:57 |
WillTablet |
benkay: sarcasm? |
18:57 |
benkay |
irony |
18:57 |
benkay |
WillTablet ^^ |
18:58 |
Mats_cd03 |
whats going on with these tx inssues |
18:58 |
Mats_cd03 |
^issues |
18:58 |
benkay |
the internet isn't going to teach you anything about investing except via exceptional losses. |
18:58 |
WillTablet |
So basically, the best thing to do with my bitcoins is to forget about them till I see on the news oh BTC is worth £4000 now |
18:58 |
asciilifeform |
EU: 'we'll build separate net. and run more winblows. our road to victory.' |
18:58 |
Mats_cd03 |
bitpay doesn't work anymore, whining about some signature or other |
18:58 |
ThickAsThieves |
"We'll talk with France about how we can maintain a high level of data protection," Merkel said. |
18:59 |
WillTablet |
They have a market simulator though I suppose the psychological effect is different if its not real money |
18:59 |
Duffer1 |
keep your btc |
18:59 |
benkay |
keep your btc |
18:59 |
ThickAsThieves |
seems like an awful lot of trouble to not solve spying |
19:00 |
WillTablet |
keep your btc |
19:00 |
benkay |
hang on WillTablet i have a book for you |
19:00 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform eu : we will say all sorts of things in no relation to what we actually do. it's what built rome. |
19:00 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16100 @ 0.0008724 = 14.0456 BTC [+] |
19:00 |
benkay |
WillTablet: there are two books for you to read before you put any money into the market |
19:00 |
WillTablet |
Okay |
19:00 |
benkay |
The Intelligent Investor by Benjamin Graham |
19:00 |
pankkake |
ThickAsThieves: yeah, it's a high level of full of shitness. I hope nothing comes out of it, because the real motives probably aren't good |
19:00 |
WillTablet |
Are they heavy reading? |
19:00 |
benkay |
and Buffett - the Making of an American Capitalist |
19:00 |
mircea_popescu |
hey not bad. |
19:01 |
mircea_popescu |
krugman approved reading. |
19:01 |
benkay |
yup. |
19:01 |
Duffer1 |
ha |
19:01 |
benkay |
if you can't make it through them, you're not ready for the markets. |
19:01 |
WillTablet |
Might get the pdf as parents would probably be like wtf investing |
19:01 |
benkay |
mircea_popescu: you have recommendations? |
19:01 |
benkay |
WillTablet: yeah get u some pdfs |
19:01 |
benkay |
WillTablet: learning is free these days. take advantage of it. |
19:02 |
benkay |
WillTablet: far more difficult than when we were taught, but hey this is the real world. |
19:02 |
mircea_popescu |
benkay i dun see a problem. |
19:02 |
Mats_cd03 |
books are for nerds |
19:02 |
mircea_popescu |
so is your girlfriend. |
19:02 |
WillTablet |
benkay: does it involve anything more that grade 10 maths? |
19:02 |
benkay |
nope. |
19:02 |
WillTablet |
Good |
19:02 |
Mats_cd03 |
i pray to god for investment purposes |
19:02 |
WillTablet |
Then I should be fine |
19:03 |
Mats_cd03 |
my homeboy jesus knows whats good with k street |
19:03 |
mircea_popescu |
if you gotta pray to god for investment purpoises better make sure you pray to the god of the jooze. |
19:03 |
benkay |
the most complicated thing you'll ever encounter in most practical investment problems is time discounting of money WillTablet |
19:03 |
benkay |
WillTablet: have you worked with exponentials? |
19:03 |
mircea_popescu |
either that or set theory. |
19:03 |
WillTablet |
Sort of |
19:03 |
benkay |
^1/5 etc? |
19:03 |
benkay |
e^-iπ? |
19:04 |
WillTablet |
No |
19:04 |
benkay |
it's not that bad :) |
19:04 |
WillTablet |
shouldn't be too bad, no |
19:04 |
benkay |
and you won't need it to learn the important stuff about not losing your shirt. |
19:04 |
benkay |
but kid listen |
19:04 |
benkay |
sit on your butts |
19:04 |
benkay |
acquire more, don't burn the ones you have. |
19:05 |
Mats_cd03 |
buy some atc, its the hot new thiing |
19:05 |
Mats_cd03 |
in fact... trade all your buttcoins for atc |
19:05 |
benkay |
yeah hey mircea_popescu give the kid some atc |
19:05 |
mircea_popescu |
what am i, made of money ? |
19:05 |
ThickAsThieves |
WillTablet go here and install the wallet www.therealaltcoin.org |
19:05 |
WillTablet |
The kid |
19:05 |
ThickAsThieves |
i'll give him some |
19:06 |
kakobrekla |
Willy The Kid |
19:06 |
mircea_popescu |
WillTablet he's trying to be me, don't take it to heart. |
19:06 |
WillTablet |
Sorry, I am on an android ATM |
19:06 |
WillTablet |
Will google |
19:06 |
pankkake |
https://x-bt.com/markets/atcbtc trades happenin! |
19:06 |
ozbot |
X-BT - The new marketplace for trading Bitcoin with Litecoin, Namecoin and Altcoin |
19:06 |
benkay |
so how do we get the atc ticker in -assets? |
19:06 |
mircea_popescu |
Learn your Atc Btc Ctcs! |
19:07 |
mircea_popescu |
mebbe if we .bait assbot |
19:07 |
Duffer1 |
.bait brought to you by Altcoin |
19:07 |
WillTablet |
ThickAsThieves: could you do so tomorrow maybe? I'm supposed to be in bed ATM, and am |
19:08 |
benkay |
.bait |
19:08 |
ozbot |
http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2unva3IM91r3drngo1_500.jpg |
19:08 |
Mats_cd03 |
lols |
19:09 |
Bugpowder |
ThickAsThieves: I got my dad in at $20, he exited at $80, happy to make $60k. |
19:09 |
pankkake |
well, x-bt API is annoying. need an api key even to get trades |
19:10 |
Vexual |
http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=0eb0fad |
19:10 |
ozbot |
Image View - TIS |
19:10 |
Apocalyptic |
pankkake, yeah, a public API is under construction |
19:10 |
Bugpowder |
I knew I should have bought on the dip below $600... |
19:10 |
Bugpowder |
Just added a bit at $625. |
19:11 |
Bugpowder |
Where is the alt faucet? |
19:11 |
asciilifeform |
"came to drakula two catholic monks, from the hungarian lands, pittances to collect. he ordered them brought apart, and called up one, pointed to the yard, where one could see many sat upon stakes, or on wheels broken. he did ask: 'was i just? and who are these people, sitting on stakes?' answered the monk, 'no, lord, you do evil, killing without mercy; a lord must be merciful. and those sat upon the stakes - a |
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19:11 |
asciilifeform |
re martyrs!' drakula called in the other monk and asked him same. he did answer: 'you, lord, are called by god to put to death evildoers and reward the virtuous. as for those upon the stakes, they wrought evil and were justly punished.' drakula spoke again to the first monk, 'why did you leave your cloister in the monastery and walk about the courts of great lords, if you know nothing of the world? you said you |
19:11 |
asciilifeform |
rself, these people are martyrs. so i wish to make you a martyr, be in the company of your fellows.' and ordered him sat upon a stake, but the other monk, sent with fifty golden ducats back to the hungarian borders, 'you are a wise man.' |
19:12 |
WillTablet |
Wonder what they mean by virtually priceless? |
19:12 |
benkay |
it's nice seeing y'all hash through the requirements of launching an altcoin |
19:12 |
WillTablet |
Does that mean worthless? |
19:12 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00087198 = 3.3135 BTC [-] |
19:12 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform :) |
19:13 |
mircea_popescu |
help create the world you wish to live in. |
19:13 |
asciilifeform |
circa 1486. "Сказание о Дракуле-воеводе." translation mine. |
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19:13 |
mircea_popescu |
benkay it's not really belonging on the list. let people do their own charity personally. |
19:14 |
pankkake |
well, it doesn't even werk. or I'm using my client wrong … |
19:15 |
mircea_popescu |
curious what cads reads off that story :D |
19:15 |
benkay |
i hear and obey |
19:15 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [COG.F2] 2 @ 2 = 4 BTC [+] |
19:16 |
mircea_popescu |
many hurias await thee in the land beyond the wobbles. |
19:17 |
mircea_popescu |
hm i guess in english it actually is houries |
19:17 |
benkay |
save the houries for chaang-noi |
19:18 |
mircea_popescu |
i doubt he gets any. |
19:18 |
cads |
hmm, what is this land beyond the wobbles? |
19:18 |
ThickAsThieves |
<WillTablet> ThickAsThieves: could you do so tomorrow maybe? I'm supposed to be in bed ATM, and am /// yes just find me whenever |
19:18 |
mircea_popescu |
he'll prolly have to fuck cockroaches for all eternity. |
19:18 |
asciilifeform |
'came once from the hungarian lands a merchant to the city of drakula. and, as is custom at his court, left his cart on the city street in front of the house, and his wares - on the cart, and himself went to sleep in the house. and someone did steal from the cart 160 gold ducats. the merchant came to drakula, spoke to him of the missing gold. drakula answered, 'go, this same night you will have your gold again. |
19:18 |
asciilifeform |
' and ordered that in the whole city the thief be sought, 'should you fail to find him, the city shall perish.' and ordered the same night his old gold placed on the cart - with one added duacat. morning came, the mechant counted the gold, and counted again, then exclaimed: 'i have my gold again, but a ducat is extra!' and then the thief was caught, and the stolen gold brought. spoke drakula to the merchant th |
19:18 |
asciilifeform |
us: 'go with peace. and had you not spoken to me of the ducat, you would sit on this same stake as the thief.' |
19:18 |
WillTablet |
ThickAsThieves: yes |
19:19 |
mircea_popescu |
cads you know monty python ? the "there goes the neighbourhood" sketch ? |
19:19 |
WillTablet |
I have my PC on, since I am remarkably bad-ass |
19:19 |
cads |
:D |
19:19 |
cads |
ah, I haven't seen it |
19:19 |
cads |
is it john cleese making the speech about the wobbles? |
19:19 |
mircea_popescu |
see, romanians are uncultivated. |
19:19 |
ThickAsThieves |
<Bugpowder> Where is the alt faucet? /// is this needed for proliferation you think? |
19:19 |
mircea_popescu |
no, it's a cartoon |
19:20 |
benkay |
asciilifeform: what is this from which you're quoting? |
19:20 |
ThickAsThieves |
<WillTablet> Wonder what they mean by virtually priceless? /// so do we |
19:20 |
WillTablet |
Ah |
19:20 |
asciilifeform |
benkay: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-02-2014#509711 |
19:21 |
WillTablet |
Are yoy trying to make a point here? That altcoin is just another random coin that will never be used? |
19:21 |
benkay |
asciilifeform: context? |
19:21 |
asciilifeform |
benkay: scroll up. |
19:21 |
ThickAsThieves |
that's not the point |
19:21 |
WillTablet |
What is the point? |
19:21 |
ThickAsThieves |
that there doesnt need to be one for everything to change |
19:22 |
WillTablet |
One what? |
19:22 |
ThickAsThieves |
point |
19:22 |
WillTablet |
Uhhhh-uh |
19:22 |
ThickAsThieves |
it's heavy shit |
19:22 |
WillTablet |
ThickAsThieves: I don't follow this |
19:23 |
cads |
asciilifeform: hah, awesome stories |
19:23 |
Chris_Sabian_ |
TAT - so the only thing different about Altcoin is the name? |
19:23 |
WillTablet |
However, I'm guessing the altcoins were a lie |
19:23 |
kakobrekla |
WillTablet its the 15th standard. |
19:23 |
ThickAsThieves |
youre trying too hard to fit it into a box, but it is a box |
19:23 |
benkay |
the coin is a lie |
19:23 |
kakobrekla |
the cake is a bill |
19:24 |
cads |
asciilifeform: are there more in the collection? |
19:24 |
mircea_popescu |
the little boy was a slice of cake! |
19:24 |
asciilifeform |
cads: tons. |
19:24 |
WillTablet |
ThickAsThieves: not helping that much |
19:24 |
cads |
:D |
19:24 |
Chris_Sabian_ |
there are people buying altcoin for 350 - 500 satoshi on 2 exchanges |
19:25 |
mircea_popescu |
Chris_Sabian_ your mistake here is to proceed on the wholly prepasterous cads worldview, whereas that which matter doesn't matter, and that which is left once you're done ignoring what matters can then be counted. |
19:25 |
ThickAsThieves |
all these coins are just coins, and what makes them different is how people use them, whether they use them, etc |
19:25 |
mircea_popescu |
and who uses them, and for what. |
19:25 |
ThickAsThieves |
yep |
19:25 |
mircea_popescu |
because, yet again, people aren't interchangeable. |
19:25 |
mircea_popescu |
and there's no such thing as "views". |
19:26 |
WillTablet |
So any investment is just defined by how its used? Like if all pound coins but one in the world was destroyed, the one pound would become worth more than jhst a pound? |
19:26 |
mircea_popescu |
so you are, you'll be forever remembered as the goldstain of some views you didn't even hold. |
19:26 |
mircea_popescu |
(consciously) |
19:26 |
mircea_popescu |
in a sense, you're being raped. |
19:26 |
ThickAsThieves |
no Will |
19:26 |
mircea_popescu |
s/goldstain/goldstein |
19:27 |
WillTablet |
If confusing teenagers is this fun, I can kinda see why teachers do it |
19:27 |
ThickAsThieves |
coins arent exactly investments |
19:27 |
mircea_popescu |
yw. |
19:27 |
benkay |
goldstain was pretty good |
19:27 |
ThickAsThieves |
they are vessels |
19:27 |
WillTablet |
ThickAsThieves: so in order to make a good decision one has to look at what other people do and where that got them? |
19:28 |
ThickAsThieves |
hey! |
19:28 |
kakobrekla |
sounds like something desirable, goldstain. |
19:28 |
mircea_popescu |
WillTablet as the girl explains. didja read it ? |
19:28 |
ThickAsThieves |
good thougth |
19:28 |
ThickAsThieves |
thought* |
19:28 |
mircea_popescu |
spicasspielers can't speal. |
19:28 |
WillTablet |
mircea_popescu: where? |
19:28 |
ThickAsThieves |
i can spell just fine, it's my fingers that never graduated |
19:29 |
mircea_popescu |
;;google mpoe-pr personal responsibility and the ponzi scam |
19:29 |
gribble |
Personal responsiblity and the Ponzi scam. - Bitcoin Forum: <https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=106391.0>; How Pyramid Schemes and Ponzi Schemes are Prosecuted in the ...: <http://kschang.hubpages.com/hub/How-Pyramid-Schemes-and-Ponzi-Schemes-are-Prosecuted-in-the-US>; Domestic Taxation - LEHMAN TAX LAW: <http://www.lehmantaxlaw.com/category/domestic-taxation-2/> |
19:29 |
mircea_popescu |
1. Learn the pecking order. All opinions are not equal. Some people are to be respected. Learn who. Some people are irrelevant and easily ignored. Learn who. More importantly than the who, learn why. Is it just because "everyone else seems to think so"? That's no good, forget it. Is it because they were right when everyone else was wrong? That's perfect, especially if it occurs with any sort of consistency. |
19:29 |
mircea_popescu |
4. Step outside of your ideology. You might have been brought up in a very repressive social milieu in which some particular ideological slant was drilled into you. This is working to your disadvantage, get rid of it. Are you sticking up for your friends because they're your friends rather than because they have a point? Great for facebook, horrible for BTC. You will lose money. Are you following the crowd like a welfa |
19:29 |
mircea_popescu |
re state lemming? Great for the white collar slave, horrible for BTC. You will lose money. Do you think form is above content and as such it's okay to invade foreign countries and slaughter civilians just as long as nobody says shit, piss, fuck, cunt, cocksucker, motherfucker or tits on TV? Great for being an American, horrible for the free world. You will lose money. |
19:29 |
mircea_popescu |
etc |
19:29 |
benkay |
welfare state lemming. |
19:29 |
benkay |
yummy. |
19:30 |
mircea_popescu |
i hear people actually eat lemming |
19:30 |
mircea_popescu |
never had one myself. |
19:30 |
benkay |
shoes too, some of 'em. |
19:30 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves probably cause while you were in school, they were cutting class into the schoolmates. |
19:31 |
WillTablet |
Right |
19:31 |
WillTablet |
Maybe I get this |
19:31 |
WillTablet |
Idk |
19:31 |
mircea_popescu |
what's the rush anyway. |
19:31 |
benkay |
WillTablet: you're probably young enough for it to make sense the first time you read it. consider it a blessing! |
19:31 |
WillTablet |
Seriously, prolly having some form of ASD is taking its toll hear |
19:31 |
WillTablet |
*here |
19:32 |
WillTablet |
Can someone just explain what they mean |
19:32 |
mircea_popescu |
what's the asd/atc rate ? |
19:32 |
benkay |
maybe, but channel that into focus on important things and learn how to handle humans. it /is/ a learnable skill. |
19:32 |
WillTablet |
Oh and my altcoin client says no block source available |
19:33 |
Duffer1 |
pankakke have an addnode list? |
19:33 |
mircea_popescu |
wasn't it on the forum ? |
19:33 |
Chris_Sabian_ |
you need to add a node |
19:33 |
asciilifeform |
'came once to drakula an envoy from the great hungarian king mathias; a noble baron, of polish birth. and drakula did sit and dine with him among the corpses. and the envoy saw before him on the ground, a thick and gilded stake, and then drakula asked of the envoy: 'tell me, for what have i prepared this stake?' fear took hold of the envoy, who thought a while, and spoke: 'seems to me, my lord, that someone amo |
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19:33 |
asciilifeform |
ng the noble has dealt with you unjustly, and for him you have prepared a death more stately than for others.' drakula answered, 'you speak the truth. here you are - an envoy of a great lord, a kingly emissary, it is for you that i have crafted this stake.' answered the envoy, 'lord, if i have wrought an injustice worthy of death - do with me as you will. you are an impartial judge - it is not you who shall be |
19:33 |
asciilifeform |
to blame for my demise, but i alone.' drakula laughed, and spoke thus, 'had you not answered as you did, you would have sat down upon this stake.' and the lord ordered the envoy honoured, and gifted, and sent off in peace, with the words: 'you may walk as an envoy from great lords, to great lords, because you know how to speak to great lords; while others ought not even try, but let them first learn how to spea |
19:33 |
asciilifeform |
k to a great lord.' such was the custom of drakula: when an inexperienced envoy came to him, from a king or an emperor, and could not answer the wily questions of drakula, he would be sat upon a stake, drakula saying to him this: 'not i am to blame for your demise, but your lord is, or perhaps you are. for if your lord knew that you are unintelligent and inexperienced, and still sent you to me - a wise lord, yo |
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19:33 |
asciilifeform |
ur own lord has slaine you. if you yourself had decided to come, with your own hand you have slain your own self.' and thus did the lord prepare for an emissary a tall gilded stake, and sat him down upon it, and to his lord he would send a message praying that in the future he not send to the wise and learned ruler a stupid and unlearned envoy.' |
19:34 |
mod6 |
Need to add a node to altcoin.conf: Nodes: 188.165.216.59, 125.120.196.224, 68.35.72.33, 162.243.123.118 |
19:34 |
WillTablet |
Yuhuh |
19:35 |
WillTablet |
So does this advice have anything to do with the offer of atc |
19:35 |
mircea_popescu |
what offer of atc ?! |
19:35 |
WillTablet |
Does the offer somehow make a point or do the points somehow make the offer |
19:35 |
mircea_popescu |
who's offering atc! |
19:36 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform going a little too far isn't it ? |
19:36 |
kakobrekla |
the round rocks beneath the ground have spoken through the fire |
19:37 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 30 @ 0.12278 = 3.6834 BTC [-] {4} |
19:37 |
Bugpowder |
MPEx should have an ATC futures market, with delivery. |
19:37 |
Duffer1 |
I believe I recall TaT offering ATC |
19:37 |
mircea_popescu |
nobody really has enough atc yet |
19:37 |
WillTablet |
I don't gave an altcoin.conf |
19:37 |
Bugpowder |
Maybe ATC.DIFF? |
19:37 |
WillTablet |
*have |
19:37 |
Duffer1 |
it's just a .txt you create yourself and drop in the wallet folder |
19:38 |
Chris_Sabian_ |
you need to make one |
19:38 |
Bugpowder |
We need some way to get in the ATC game. Why can't MPEx provide it? |
19:38 |
kakobrekla |
its not a .txt its a .conf! |
19:38 |
Duffer1 |
er yea |
19:38 |
benkay |
Bugpowder: maybe an alt PMB |
19:38 |
Duffer1 |
use notepad, add your text, name the file altcoin.conf |
19:38 |
Apocalyptic |
heh |
19:38 |
Chris_Sabian_ |
you create a .txt file with the info in it and then remain it as .conf |
19:38 |
mircea_popescu |
Bugpowder what's wrong with just populating the spot on apocalyptic's thing |
19:38 |
kakobrekla |
why dont we just call pirate do do another round of trust |
19:39 |
Chris_Sabian_ |
path in windows: C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Roaming\Altcoin |
19:39 |
pankkake |
kakobrekla: niggers.conf |
19:39 |
Vexual |
.dubstep |
19:39 |
Duffer1 |
lol |
19:39 |
kakobrekla |
ithink its more beautysalon.txt |
19:40 |
pankkake |
the node I'm running is 188.165.216.59 and it's in the source code, if you built from it |
19:40 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 19 @ 0.19376446 = 3.6815 BTC [+] |
19:40 |
Apocalyptic |
Bugpowder, they're waiting for you @ https://www.x-bt.com/markets/atcbtc |
19:40 |
kakobrekla |
if you had to put css on it, at least make it look rite |
19:40 |
Bugpowder |
Do you have charts? I need charts to do TA. |
19:41 |
pankkake |
doesn't even have working api! |
19:41 |
WillTablet |
So I put this in the altcoin.conf? |
19:41 |
WillTablet |
Nodes: 188.165.216.59, 125.120.196.224, 68.35.72.33, 162.243.123.118 |
19:41 |
Apocalyptic |
no charts, pankkake lies |
19:42 |
kakobrekla |
kako doesnt! |
19:43 |
kakobrekla |
WillTablet the third book is the book of assets log |
19:43 |
mod6 |
WillTablet no |
19:43 |
mod6 |
needs to be: |
19:43 |
mod6 |
addnode=<IP> |
19:43 |
WillTablet |
Okay |
19:44 |
kakobrekla |
just do it in console |
19:44 |
kakobrekla |
simpler. |
19:44 |
mod6 |
and as much as i lothe btctawk, read through this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=443108.0;all |
19:45 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18400 @ 0.00087211 = 16.0468 BTC [+] |
19:46 |
WillTablet |
Got it |
19:47 |
WillTablet |
Might take a while to sync |
19:47 |
mod6 |
werd |
19:48 |
Bugpowder |
I need to setup my miner |
19:48 |
Duffer1 |
how many mb is the altcoin blockchain up to? |
19:48 |
WillTablet |
I have a feeling this might take a while |
19:48 |
mircea_popescu |
Duffer1 100mb overhead and like 750 bytes of txn |
19:49 |
Duffer1 |
did you guys ever get the source? |
19:49 |
mircea_popescu |
the most inefficient way to process information ever invented. |
19:49 |
cads |
hey guys, lemme offer my apologies for stirring up the channel last evening |
19:49 |
cads |
I was a trollish ass |
19:50 |
WillTablet |
So what exactly is special about ATC? What does priceless even mean? |
19:50 |
Bugpowder |
I am willing to buy 10BTC worth of ATC, OTC... pm me. |
19:50 |
mircea_popescu |
cads that's the point of life dood. |
19:50 |
mircea_popescu |
Bugpowder at what price ? |
19:50 |
nubbins` |
to drink good wine before one's time? |
19:51 |
Vexual |
troll your pancreas |
19:51 |
WillTablet |
So this is still 2 weeks behind, no progress |
19:51 |
WillTablet |
Should I have added more nodes? |
19:51 |
Bugpowder |
250 satoshi / ATC |
19:51 |
mod6 |
Bug: I didn't have much luck with an order on the book for a week. Try x-bt, market seems to be between 400-500 satoshi |
19:52 |
mircea_popescu |
Bugpowder i doubt that many atcs exist yet even |
19:52 |
mircea_popescu |
;;calc 10*10**8 / 250 |
19:52 |
gribble |
4000000 |
19:52 |
Vexual |
nope |
19:52 |
kakobrekla |
Coins in circulation: 8,735,232 of ~268 Million (3.25%) |
19:52 |
WillTablet |
I feel so fucking stupid |
19:52 |
Bugpowder |
People said dogecoin was a joke, but ended up being very profitable for me. Altcoin's great benefit is optionality (look it up, I mean the technical finance term). |
19:53 |
WillTablet |
Ermahgerd |
19:53 |
mod6 |
I got scammed out of 44k ATC @ openex so beware. |
19:53 |
mircea_popescu |
wow how ? |
19:53 |
Vexual |
how scammed? |
19:53 |
Chris_Sabian_ |
mod6: there is an admin online on openex so you can be able to chat |
19:53 |
mod6 |
they banned my account for no apparent reason, and haven't processed my last withdrawl. |
19:53 |
WillTablet |
Though doing cpu mining with altcoins and then buying BTC seems more profitable |
19:53 |
Bugpowder |
gox strat |
19:54 |
mircea_popescu |
outrageous. |
19:54 |
mod6 |
So, it's kinda a wait and see situation. Ihave an email into their admins. Will give update when they make good. |
19:54 |
Bugpowder |
WillTablet: Depends on where you are on the adoption curve |
19:54 |
WillTablet |
Well, I am just burning up free azure credit |
19:55 |
Chris_Sabian_ |
if anyone wants to make an altcoin p2p pool with bfgminer, that would be great |
19:55 |
Vexual |
mod6, they pay a lot of admins, i wonder what they do all day? |
19:55 |
mircea_popescu |
doesn't the current one support bfg ? |
19:55 |
Chris_Sabian_ |
cgminer |
19:55 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.06720001 = 0.2688 BTC [+] |
19:55 |
mod6 |
Looks like x-bt did process my withdrawl today.. so far so good. Thx to Apoc. |
19:55 |
benkay |
also WillTablet you're going to want to ditch that Microsoft habit. gonna get you in trouble. |
19:55 |
WillTablet |
benkay: how so? |
19:55 |
Bugpowder |
ATC needs a killer app though. Has anyone talked to dooglus about ATCdice/ |
19:55 |
Bugpowder |
? |
19:56 |
mod6 |
Vexual: they just ban accounts apparently. |
19:56 |
pankkake |
Chris_Sabian_: http://coinminer.net:19982/static/ is a p2pool |
19:56 |
Chris_Sabian_ |
mod6: was that your 20k alt sold? |
19:56 |
mod6 |
for no gd reason |
19:56 |
mod6 |
Chris:that was a buy |
19:56 |
benkay |
no time to explain. ask the channel. |
19:56 |
Chris_Sabian_ |
how can I pm on here? |
19:56 |
WillTablet |
So why must I quit this Microsoft habit? |
19:56 |
mircea_popescu |
/query name |
19:57 |
jborkl |
Bitcore library made all that much easier |
19:57 |
WillTablet |
So is altcoin a joke or a deliberately bad example? |
19:58 |
mircea_popescu |
it's a deliberately bad joke. |
19:58 |
Chris_Sabian_ |
but it is a bad joke that is selling for 350 satoshi each |
19:59 |
mircea_popescu |
amusingly, i bought a bunch for a third of that two weeks ago |
19:59 |
Bugpowder |
https://www.bitcoinbuilder.com |
19:59 |
mircea_popescu |
i guess this makes me like one of the early atc success stories / nouveau riches. |
19:59 |
Vexual |
bc is oldmoney now huh? |
19:59 |
mod6 |
^^^ |
20:00 |
WillTablet |
mircea_popescu: so should I just play along? |
20:00 |
WillTablet |
And be like oh yeah I knew it |
20:01 |
WillTablet |
Actually, I don't think I have time in life for BTC |
20:01 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20528 @ 0.00087172 = 17.8947 BTC [-] {2} |
20:01 |
WillTablet |
I mean, I haven't even figured out my intense social problems, nor stopped procrastinating |
20:01 |
nubbins` |
lel |
20:02 |
Chris_Sabian_ |
right now altcoin has a market cap of ~30 btc |
20:03 |
WillTablet |
Well, procrastination I'll figure out tomorrow |
20:04 |
BingoBoingo |
WillTablet: First work on kicking the MS habit. |
20:04 |
WillTablet |
Okay, what's the problem with it? |
20:04 |
WillTablet |
It isn't losing me momey |
20:04 |
WillTablet |
*money |
20:04 |
benkay |
not yet |
20:04 |
mircea_popescu |
WillTablet not really. just give yourself time to understand stuff. |
20:04 |
WillTablet |
But it stops when the credit runs out |
20:05 |
BingoBoingo |
WillTablet: If you have intense social problems there are few better things to do anyways than pick up a *nix habit. |
20:06 |
kakobrekla |
not sure if bashable |
20:06 |
WillTablet |
*nix |
20:06 |
WillTablet |
? |
20:06 |
cads |
:D |
20:06 |
cads |
+1 |
20:06 |
BingoBoingo |
WillTablet: Linux, Unix, BSD, Solaris, Plan 9 |
20:06 |
WillTablet |
Oh the server is ubuntu |
20:07 |
WillTablet |
My PC dual boots lm |
20:07 |
mircea_popescu |
you know it occurs to me oses are really like altchains |
20:07 |
WillTablet |
Which I use 50/50 with windows |
20:07 |
mircea_popescu |
and it's incredible there's no titsos yet |
20:08 |
cads |
oh hey, that reminds me |
20:08 |
cads |
has anyone applied portfolio theory to the bitcoin/altcoins system? |
20:09 |
Bugpowder |
Sure.... see https://twitter.com/trengriffin |
20:09 |
BingoBoingo |
http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=39 |
20:09 |
ozbot |
#bitcoin-assets bash |
20:10 |
mircea_popescu |
Bugpowder what's he written on the topic ? |
20:13 |
pankkake |
no titsos, but http://hannahmontana.sourceforge.net/ |
20:13 |
mircea_popescu |
meh, loli os |
20:13 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 60 @ 0.0055 = 0.33 BTC |
20:13 |
pankkake |
which was followed by the more serious http://lwn.net/Articles/565844/ |
20:14 |
benkay |
Q : How/why did you make such a great OS? |
20:14 |
benkay |
A : I thought - what would attract young users to Linux? So I created this idea after a lot of reading and work. |
20:14 |
benkay |
such work |
20:14 |
benkay |
much readong |
20:14 |
mircea_popescu |
who the fuck is rebecca black |
20:14 |
benkay |
ahahahaha |
20:14 |
cazalla |
gotta get down on friday |
20:14 |
benkay |
today in -assets, mircea_popescu catches up to 2012 |
20:14 |
pankkake |
poor girl ending up as a meme |
20:15 |
Chris_Sabian_ |
...just dont go there |
20:15 |
Duffer1 |
^ |
20:15 |
cads |
"Manfred drops in at his hotel suite, unpacks his Aineko, plugs in a fresh set of cells to charge, and sticks most of his private |
20:15 |
cads |
keys in the safe. Then he heads straight for the party, which is currently happening at De Wildemann's; it's a twenty-minute |
20:15 |
cads |
walk, and the only real hazard is dodging the trams that sneak up on him behind the cover of his moving map display. |
20:15 |
cads |
Along the way, his glasses bring him up to date on the news. Europe has achieved peaceful political union for the first time |
20:15 |
cads |
ever: They're using this unprecedented state of affairs to harmonize the curvature of bananas. The Middle East is, well, it's |
20:15 |
cads |
just as bad as ever, but the war on fundamentalism doesn't hold much interest for Manfred. In San Diego, researchers are |
20:15 |
cads |
uploading lobsters into cyberspace, starting with the stomatogastric ganglion, one neuron at a time. They're burning GM |
20:15 |
cads |
cocoa in Belize and books in Georgia. NASA still can't put a man on the moon. Russia has reelected the communist |
20:15 |
cads |
government with an increased majority in the Duma; meanwhile, in China, fevered rumors circulate about an imminent |
20:15 |
cads |
rehabilitation, the second coming of Mao, who will save them from the consequences of the Three Gorges disaster. In |
20:15 |
cads |
business news, the US Justice Department is ironically outraged at the Baby Bills. The divested Microsoft divisions have |
20:15 |
cads |
automated their legal processes and are spawning subsidiaries, IPOing them, and exchanging title in a bizarre parody of |
20:15 |
cads |
bacterial plasmid exchange, so fast that, by the time the windfall tax demands are served, the targets don't exist anymore, |
20:15 |
cads |
even though the same staff are working on the same software in the same Mumbai cubicle farms. |
20:15 |
cads |
Welcome to the twenty-first century." |
20:15 |
mircea_popescu |
omfg we'll have to put dpaste.com in the fucking topic of the fucking channel because all the fucking noobs can't find it on their own. |
20:15 |
cads |
- snip from Accelerando |
20:15 |
cazalla |
hello again cads, how are you today |
20:16 |
cazalla |
can't use pastebin or say hello? you are rude aren't you |
20:17 |
cads |
yeah, sorry guys, I was expecting it to be two or three lines |
20:17 |
Bugpowder |
mircea_popescu: Nothing that I have seen. Just likes to blather on about theory of alt coins and bitcoins and VC shit. The whole Andressen Horowitz Twitter axis does it (Chris Dixon, Balaji Srinasivan, and Marc) Not a bad follow though |
20:17 |
Bugpowder |
Twitter exclusively from what I've seen. |
20:18 |
mircea_popescu |
Bugpowder no argument, i just thought he actually published something useful / put some work into actually applying it or w/e. |
20:20 |
Bugpowder |
Oh hey this is kinda interesting.... Almost all NEW bitcoins are spent. http://www.technologyreview.com/graphiti/524796/show-me-the-bitcoins/ |
20:20 |
assbot |
123! |
20:21 |
BingoBoingo |
Bugpowder: Because pools have to pay their hashers. |
20:21 |
Bugpowder |
Although, do they count pool payouts as "being spent" |
20:21 |
Chris_Sabian_ |
spent just means sent to a different address |
20:21 |
Bugpowder |
Yup |
20:21 |
Chris_Sabian_ |
some new users could use a tumbler |
20:22 |
cads |
Bugpowder: I figured it be strange for miners to predominantly sell at the market price |
20:22 |
mircea_popescu |
someone mining on their own will still use a pool. |
20:22 |
cads |
exactly |
20:22 |
mircea_popescu |
set to private. |
20:22 |
mircea_popescu |
the block rewards will be sent to some sort of storage, even if it's just a cold wallet. |
20:22 |
mircea_popescu |
consequently, derpy article about no subject. |
20:22 |
cads |
so the news is just telling us the majority of new bitcoins are mined by the pools |
20:23 |
pankkake |
actually, some pools pay with the block reward |
20:23 |
mircea_popescu |
cads except it doesn't even do that. all it says is what i said above, |
20:23 |
mircea_popescu |
"past a certain hash even solo mining uses a private pool" |
20:23 |
pankkake |
so you can know, for those pools |
20:23 |
pankkake |
but for the others, you can't |
20:23 |
Chris_Sabian_ |
how about this one: https://blockchain.info/charts/n-transactions-excluding-popular?timespan=all&showDataPoints=false&daysAverageString=1&show_header=true&scale=1&address= |
20:23 |
Bugpowder |
Why is intelligent coverage so hard to come by? Are they actually stupid or are they just building a narrative that is catchy but they know actually false? |
20:24 |
pankkake |
answer is in the question |
20:24 |
Bugpowder |
Jonah Lehrer and Gladwell should collab on a bitcoin book. |
20:25 |
mircea_popescu |
Bugpowder because "views". |
20:25 |
mircea_popescu |
if you optimise for the largest possible counter of "views" it is antieconomical to actually publish intelligent coverage. |
20:25 |
Bugpowder |
This is the problem with scientific publishing too |
20:25 |
mircea_popescu |
indeed. |
20:26 |
mircea_popescu |
publishers should be rewarded by indingnance. |
20:26 |
mircea_popescu |
the more pissed off more people are, the more dough they get. |
20:26 |
Bugpowder |
For example, the recent dip cells in acid and they become super stem cells paper in Nature... Bullshit |
20:26 |
mircea_popescu |
Bugpowder aww and i was eating all these oranges trying t oturn my stomach into an octopus! |
20:26 |
Bugpowder |
Post pup peer review ongoing... nobody can replicate it, now irregularities being discovered in the gel blots... |
20:28 |
Bugpowder |
http://www.ipscell.com/stap-new-data/ |
20:28 |
Bugpowder |
But the narrative is so sexy... Nature publishes |
20:28 |
mircea_popescu |
i imagine it'll be a good day when most of the people commenting on Nature are going "hey guise Nature is nasty I am ignoring it hahaha!" |
20:28 |
Bugpowder |
See also "Arsenic DNA" |
20:28 |
Vexual |
hey if it gives a viable story for where the stem cells came from in future findings, it can only be good for science |
20:28 |
Bugpowder |
mircea_popescu: That's the way it is on Twitter |
20:29 |
cads |
hmm, I might have an example of convenient narrative. I read an article of a blogger hyping maxcoin. She claims something about the mtgox situation that I can't quite understand, but seems to level the accusation that mtgox was engaging in fractional banking. |
20:29 |
mircea_popescu |
twitter is really very fragmented. |
20:29 |
mircea_popescu |
lots of idiot tribes. |
20:29 |
Bugpowder |
Vexual: Not if its total bullshit. It is negative for science, as that Nature slot is not used for something real. |
20:29 |
cads |
I don't know enough or care enough about mt gox to know what is going on there, but there was no mention of the bug or the millions lost |
20:30 |
cads |
and it seemed contrived, meant to attract money market types to maxcoin |
20:30 |
mircea_popescu |
i wouldn't go as far as to say it's bad for science, but it definitely is inconvenient for anyone not an idiot with a nature subscription. |
20:30 |
Bugpowder |
Nature guarantees that your work will be read and discussed by many scientists. We have limited bandwidth, must use it optimally. (like hanging in bitcoin-assets) |
20:30 |
mircea_popescu |
cads was it also a rewrite of the trilema gox article ? |
20:30 |
mircea_popescu |
Bugpowder obtaining cvorum on a definition of optimality however... |
20:32 |
mircea_popescu |
i mean this channel was fundamentally born out of some clueless noobs' inability to grok that intelligent discussion is more important than avoiding displays of cunt. |
20:33 |
mircea_popescu |
that and a practical smattering of impudent cockletry with delusions of hitlerism, but anwyay. |
20:35 |
cads |
my though was that if money and fund types hear there was a bug that let criminals make off with millions they'd be unlikely to even consider what maxcoin has got going on that makes it 'even better' than bitcoin |
20:35 |
cads |
but if they hear that what's going on is that a trading house is doing a fractional banking scam, that's something that appeals much more to their refined palates |
20:35 |
mircea_popescu |
nobody asked the fund types. |
20:36 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.1221 = 0.2442 BTC [-] |
20:36 |
BingoBoingo |
Fucking Guinea wops http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-02-16/money-launderer-until-proven-innocent-italy-imposes-20-tax-withholding-all-inbound-m |
20:36 |
mircea_popescu |
bitcoin will prevail in spite of the current hierarchy. |
20:36 |
mircea_popescu |
whether elements contribute or don't contribute has no systemic impact |
20:36 |
mircea_popescu |
as the sine qua non for contribution is abjuration. |
20:37 |
BitcoinPropagand |
We make free bitcoin advertising-posters-wallpapers for non-crypto users, take a look: http://bitcoinpropaganda.blogspot.com If you like what you see pls donate! |
20:37 |
mircea_popescu |
BitcoinPropagand hey, you the guy with the posters ? |
20:37 |
BitcoinPropagand |
yes |
20:37 |
mircea_popescu |
do you actually print and glue those things or just design them ? |
20:38 |
BitcoinPropagand |
just design and give them for free why? |
20:38 |
mircea_popescu |
because i'd be interested in supporting a program of propaganda against us banking interests signed MPEx/BTC |
20:38 |
benkay |
ship some to me |
20:39 |
benkay |
i'll go bike around town wheatpasting 'em |
20:39 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 209 @ 0.00084499 = 0.1766 BTC [+] |
20:39 |
BitcoinPropagand |
interesting |
20:39 |
benkay |
i need something btc to do that's not this damn parser |
20:39 |
mircea_popescu |
but the facebook angle of "here's some pdfs of stuff we made in illustrator" has little adherence. |
20:39 |
mircea_popescu |
they'd have to be posted, and the postings photographed and so on. |
20:39 |
mircea_popescu |
lot of work on the ground. |
20:40 |
Duffer1 |
billboards even |
20:40 |
BitcoinPropagand |
where can i see some of that? |
20:40 |
mircea_popescu |
they want to run illiterate articles in their bullshit rags nobody reads anyway, fine, let's put some paper on their limos. |
20:40 |
mircea_popescu |
Duffer1 no, specifically not billboards. |
20:41 |
mircea_popescu |
BitcoinPropagand http://trilema.com/2013/snsa-cardano-pricing-other-statements/ for instance |
20:41 |
mircea_popescu |
or http://trilema.com/2013/rng-board-is-here-cute-shirts-bonus/ if you prefer women. |
20:41 |
mircea_popescu |
i did the exact thing with Trilema posters in Romania five years ago, country was fucking full of stickers and whatnot. |
20:42 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.00087245 = 12.2143 BTC [+] {3} |
20:43 |
BitcoinPropagand |
the t shirt of the woman is too short |
20:43 |
mircea_popescu |
that's a new one. |
20:43 |
benkay |
au contraire, not nearly short enough |
20:44 |
cads |
http://therealasset.co.uk/bitcoin-maxcoin/ okay here's the article -- the first paragraph in the section "trouble at mt gox" gives a summary of the mt gox problems - glitches in gox + a bug in bitcoin + trade halt at gox + double counting. |
20:44 |
asciilifeform |
can't resist asking, why no billboards. |
20:45 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: In the US CBS owns them all and fuck CBS. |
20:45 |
cads |
The it does this: "In effect, Mt Gox had left themselves wide open to any accusation that they were no different to any other system operating on a fractional reserve basis." |
20:45 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform roughly for the same reason you don't come to the global warming protest in your car. |
20:46 |
asciilifeform |
haha |
20:46 |
cads |
It reduces the (essentially context free) summary to that single rhetorically charged statement. |
20:46 |
cads |
first of all I just have to ask, 'wtf'? |
20:46 |
mircea_popescu |
cads why does some clueless piece in an irrelevant venue merit this much of your time ? |
20:47 |
benkay |
i'm pleased that 'fractional reserve' is now an insult. |
20:47 |
mircea_popescu |
now this is a good point. |
20:47 |
benkay |
3! |
20:48 |
cads |
I was wondering about Bugpowder's earlier statement. Is this writer an idiot or a smooth PR savage? |
20:48 |
mircea_popescu |
useful idiot |
20:48 |
mircea_popescu |
covers everything. |
20:49 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 50 @ 0.07182995 = 3.5915 BTC [+] {5} |
20:49 |
mircea_popescu |
i'm kind-of surprised there isn't a localbitcoins but for activists. |
20:49 |
mircea_popescu |
a central exchange where people can trade their deeds. |
20:50 |
mircea_popescu |
decentralised, of course. |
20:50 |
benkay |
people who can build web applications while derpy as fuck are significantly less derpy than people who burn their hours trying to fix the world. |
20:50 |
benkay |
in that the former chase profit and the later abhor it. |
20:50 |
mircea_popescu |
well seems like a bug more than a feature, this. |
20:51 |
cads |
mircea_popescu: did you ever hear of the 'Freicoin' demurage currency formulated by some of the occupy wallstreet people? |
20:51 |
benkay |
except that fixing the world is impossible except randomly from time to time as in the satoshi case. |
20:51 |
mircea_popescu |
cads yes, at the time. |
20:51 |
mircea_popescu |
and yes, i thought it's a good match, it's about as misguided as the people that came up with it. |
20:51 |
asciilifeform |
freicon! arbeit macht frei. |
20:52 |
asciilifeform |
i still don't get how that was supposed to work. 'eat shit! it tastes just as good as food! trust us' |
20:52 |
BingoBoingo |
freicoin removes Bitcoin's biggest market driver - "store of value" |
20:52 |
mircea_popescu |
benkay "being rich" is also impossible, how about that. |
20:52 |
cads |
The Freicoin website says, "Freicoin's parameters are carefully chosen to eliminate the basic interest component of investments, called the liquidity premium by economists. Usurious non-zero basic interest distorts the free market, incentivises poisonous greed, excess, and short-term thinking, and perpetuates a vicious cycle of boom/bust recessions." |
20:52 |
BitcoinPropagand |
Whos ur target, what's ur budget? |
20:52 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform because if you really really will something, that'll matter. in that your imagination has some bearing on reality. |
20:52 |
benkay |
you and i are both using "impossible" in the sense of "impossible for you or most other people" |
20:53 |
benkay |
mircea_popescu ^^ |
20:53 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1390 @ 0.00087169 = 1.2116 BTC [-] |
20:53 |
mircea_popescu |
benkay no, it's just self-defeating. the previous fixage becomes the baseline for the new brokedness |
20:53 |
mircea_popescu |
the richness of yesterday is merely poverty now. |
20:53 |
benkay |
except in bitcoin, mircea_popescu |
20:53 |
cads |
mircea_popescu: the market cap of freicoin is an initial jump followed by an absolutely perfect exponential decay: http://coinmarketcap.com/frc_90.html |
20:53 |
benkay |
the richness of today is the more richness of tomorrow |
20:54 |
mircea_popescu |
maybe. |
20:54 |
cads |
mircea_popescu: freicoin ain't going to inspire no greed, no sir! |
20:54 |
mircea_popescu |
cads you grossly misrepresent "greed". |
20:54 |
cads |
arguably their mission is complete :) |
20:54 |
cads |
mircea_popescu: I'm mostly laughing at freicoin. |
20:55 |
mircea_popescu |
BitcoinPropagand my budget is for the purpose of this discussion unlimited, but it is also unfortunately useless. |
20:55 |
mircea_popescu |
i could have just bought out the damned billboards if that was the angle i wanted. |
20:55 |
asciilifeform |
http://furtherglory.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/arbeit_macht_frei.jpg |
20:55 |
mircea_popescu |
cads o i missed a sarcasm there. |
20:56 |
cads |
I heard about it from, get this, a grungy muddy finance grad student living with two other grungy dudes in a 300 tent colony that had sprung up in one of the main parks in the center of atlanta |
20:56 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6338 @ 0.00087376 = 5.5379 BTC [+] {2} |
20:56 |
cads |
living cramped in a tent* |
20:56 |
mircea_popescu |
were they confused as to the whereabouts of wall street ? |
20:56 |
asciilifeform |
i still don't grok this. did anyone actually wish to use freicoin? or merely for others to use it. |
20:56 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform that question cuts to the heart of the matter. |
20:57 |
cads |
mircea_popescu: no no, to the left and the right and the north and the south towered the enormous buildings of the billionaires |
20:57 |
mircea_popescu |
does the "feminist" not wish to wear slutty clothes herself, |
20:57 |
cads |
laughing at them |
20:57 |
mircea_popescu |
or for other girls stop doing it ? |
20:57 |
cads |
boxing them in :D |
20:57 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
20:57 |
cads |
it was funny because there were business men filing nervously past the tents every day |
20:58 |
mircea_popescu |
you know, i'd have gone to work early and hung out with the bums half an hour. |
20:58 |
cads |
on the camp ground there was hustle and bustle and optimism and the undeniably knowledge that they were DOING SOMETHING. |
20:58 |
mircea_popescu |
why pay for entertainment. |
20:58 |
asciilifeform |
'less world, more bank!' |
20:58 |
cads |
they had, get thiss |
20:58 |
cads |
runners |
20:58 |
cads |
runners that would run between camps in the city |
20:58 |
cads |
and spread news :D |
20:58 |
mircea_popescu |
i'd have been all like "but yo, if there's no more banks, were'd you check your privilege ?" |
20:59 |
mircea_popescu |
so good for them. running is quite healthy for young men. |
20:59 |
benkay |
you keep it in your encrypted privelege wallet |
20:59 |
cads |
the dialog of privilege had not been opened in the public yet |
20:59 |
cads |
the key meme was the rhetoric of the "one percent" |
20:59 |
mircea_popescu |
i'd have had my printer print special PRIVILEGE CHECKs |
20:59 |
mircea_popescu |
and distributed them. |
20:59 |
cads |
haha |
20:59 |
cads |
maybe that's all white people have to do |
20:59 |
benkay |
privileged to rape one feminist? |
20:59 |
mircea_popescu |
and the kids' be all "but we don't have an account" |
21:00 |
cads |
well come on to the MP bank! |
21:00 |
cads |
and sign up! |
21:00 |
mircea_popescu |
and i'd have been all like a well. |
21:00 |
mircea_popescu |
nah. |
21:00 |
benkay |
"it's just a fantasy, office! this is totally consensual!" |
21:00 |
cads |
"free checking and savings for students" |
21:00 |
mircea_popescu |
mp bank prolly charges 100k to open an acct anyway. |
21:00 |
KRS-One |
heh |
21:00 |
benkay |
it's really a membership fee to the cigar and wine vaults |
21:00 |
BingoBoingo |
The original 1%'ers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outlaw_motorcycle_club#One_percenter |
21:00 |
benkay |
banking's just a side-bennie |
21:01 |
mircea_popescu |
i wonder what'll happen once teh bitcoin forum crowd finds out there actually are plenty of irl banks that work exactly this way. |
21:01 |
asciilifeform |
i actually entertained myself at the wash. d.c. 'occupy' regularly, until it finally croaked. got GBs of video of these folks clowning around in a thousand riotously inane ways. |
21:01 |
nubbins` |
mircea_popescu:because i'd be interested in supporting a program of propaganda against us banking interests signed MPEx/BTC |
21:01 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform did you pick up ? |
21:01 |
nubbins` |
^ you know, that's not an entirely difficult task to pull off. |
21:02 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` provided enough people think with their heads, yes. |
21:02 |
asciilifeform |
it wasn't like they quizzed you for redditard orthodoxy at the door (what door) |
21:02 |
asciilifeform |
lots of idlers, in nice suits or otherwise, came to gawk. |
21:03 |
mircea_popescu |
ha! |
21:03 |
mircea_popescu |
so i wouldn't have been the only one huh, |
21:03 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 9 @ 0.116 = 1.044 BTC [-] {5} |
21:03 |
nubbins` |
mircea_popescu: any decent-sized city likely has a number of print shops that would happily churn out and slap up posters |
21:04 |
mircea_popescu |
srsly, if the ny mayor had any sense he'd have passed an ordinance saying that kids are allowed to camp indefinitely oly for as long as they're naked, also get three meals a day courtesy of the city. |
21:04 |
nubbins` |
you could even get some of the big names to do some designs, get a bit of momentum behind it |
21:04 |
mircea_popescu |
then pass clothes dump trucks to collect the textile contraband, and beat the shit out of any dressed kids left. |
21:04 |
asciilifeform |
here, eventually the city confiscated their latrines. |
21:04 |
BingoBoingo |
nubbins`: You don't want to hit the big cities. Go for the select suburbs and exurbs where they actually live. |
21:05 |
asciilifeform |
some found their way into restaurant shitters, others did what they will where they stood |
21:05 |
asciilifeform |
eventually health inspectors condemned the tents. |
21:05 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 7 @ 0.19376446 = 1.3564 BTC [+] |
21:05 |
BitcoinPropagand |
I need to know more about that program of propaganda |
21:05 |
mircea_popescu |
http://thehill.com/blogs/global-affairs/asia-pacific/198506-report-spies-watched-us-lawyers-in-trade-deal |
21:06 |
nubbins` |
BitcoinPropagand: what's to know? make posters and hire kids to put 'em up. this is how shows are advertised all across north america |
21:06 |
benkay |
mircea_popescu: that's what made me think about cold-calling DC intl law firms. |
21:07 |
ThickAsThieves |
dammit i'm missing good conversations |
21:07 |
ozbot |
US law firm ensnared in spying by NSA ally | TheHill |
21:07 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform new york missed a huge opportunity to start the largest fuckfest/rave in the history of the us. |
21:07 |
mircea_popescu |
could have eaten rio's festival tourist trade right off. |
21:07 |
benkay |
what do you call 8 bankers jumping out of a plane? |
21:07 |
asciilifeform |
they sorta did |
21:07 |
benkay |
scuse me 8 programmers |
21:08 |
asciilifeform |
but with genuine bums in the mix, it was 'acquired taste' rather than 'general interest' kind of affair. |
21:08 |
ThickAsThieves |
<Bugpowder> Do you have charts? I need charts to do TA. /// http://atc.blockr.io |
21:08 |
benkay |
NO WAIT FORUMFOLK |
21:08 |
benkay |
"air pollution" |
21:08 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform you mean all the waspish wallflowers weren't about to take smelly bum cock ? |
21:08 |
asciilifeform |
sumthinglikethat |
21:08 |
mircea_popescu |
bs. |
21:08 |
mircea_popescu |
they'd have been all over that. |
21:09 |
ThickAsThieves |
<WillTablet> Though doing cpu mining with altcoins and then buying BTC seems more profitable /// yeah but nubbins might call you a scammer |
21:09 |
asciilifeform |
evidently not enough. |
21:09 |
mircea_popescu |
only because of the ny mayor missing some very reasonable measures. |
21:09 |
ThickAsThieves |
<Bugpowder> ATC needs a killer app though. Has anyone talked to dooglus about ATCdice /// has he made alt versions before? |
21:09 |
mircea_popescu |
if they did what i propose you'd have a baby boom on your hands atm |
21:09 |
asciilifeform |
at any rate, the politically-aspirational academtards who were the 'krysha' of occupy eventually pulled the plug |
21:09 |
asciilifeform |
after der fuhrer's re-election was clinched |
21:09 |
benkay |
last thing we need is more 99%ers |
21:09 |
mircea_popescu |
myeah. |
21:10 |
ThickAsThieves |
<WillTablet> I mean, I haven't even figured out my intense social problems, nor stopped procrastinating // dont confuse procrastinating with not wanting to do stupid shit |
21:10 |
mircea_popescu |
benkay more children is a time-tested solution to any social problem. |
21:10 |
Bugpowder |
ThickAsThieves: doge-dice has huge volume |
21:10 |
Bugpowder |
I had to add it to my hosts file |
21:10 |
Bugpowder |
along with just-dice |
21:10 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform http://eurasian-law-breaking-news.blogspot.ro/2011/11/abramovich-explains-krysha-concept-to.html for lelz. |
21:10 |
KRS-One |
i took just-dice money and they arent getting it back |
21:11 |
asciilifeform |
as if it needs much of an explanation beyond simple translation in the anglo world. |
21:11 |
BingoBoingo |
KRS-One: Move it into BitBet |
21:11 |
asciilifeform |
(or elsewhere for that matter) |
21:11 |
KRS-One |
i will |
21:11 |
ThickAsThieves |
<mircea_popescu> lots of idiot tribes. // you owe Seth Godin royalties now |
21:11 |
BingoBoingo |
KRS-One: What bets are you looking at atm? |
21:11 |
Bugpowder |
benkay: If you want, my good friend is a DC associate at said international law firm. |
21:11 |
KRS-One |
havent looked for the last week or two |
21:12 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves right, the dood contributed. |
21:12 |
Bugpowder |
don't exactly understand why you want to contact them |
21:12 |
cazalla |
check your bitcoin privilege |
21:12 |
benkay |
sell 'em cardanos, Bugpowder |
21:12 |
benkay |
plus "how to keep comms secure" lessons |
21:12 |
Bugpowder |
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS |
21:12 |
kakobrekla |
O_o |
21:12 |
benkay |
oh you no cardano? |
21:13 |
benkay |
homie you behind the times like whoa |
21:13 |
benkay |
;;google cardano |
21:13 |
gribble |
Gerolamo Cardano - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerolamo_Cardano>; Cardano: <http://www.cardano.com/>; Cardan biography: <http://www-history.mcs.st-andrews.ac.uk/Biographies/Cardan.html> |
21:13 |
benkay |
;;google trilema cardano |
21:13 |
gribble |
S.NSA - Cardano pricing, other statements pe Trilema - Un blog de ...: <http://trilema.com/snsa-cardano-pricing-other-statements>; Unsorted collection of various Cardano related updates + ... - Trilema: <http://trilema.com/2013/unsorted-collection-of-various-cardano-related-updates-spurious-pics/>; S.NSA, January 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: (1 more message) |
21:13 |
benkay |
(first (second %)) |
21:13 |
BingoBoingo |
KRS-One: Take 'NO' on this one http://bitbet.us/bet/281/btc-usd-at-mtgox-will-be-above-150-on/ |
21:14 |
mircea_popescu |
from the random herp with mental issues and lulzy url department : http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/archives/10482 |
21:14 |
KRS-One |
hmm |
21:14 |
KRS-One |
why is everyone yes? |
21:14 |
KRS-One |
mostly ys |
21:14 |
BingoBoingo |
KRS-One: You know it will be an interesting sweat. |
21:14 |
kakobrekla |
<mircea_popescu> i mean this channel was fundamentally born out of some clueless noobs' inability to grok that intelligent discussion is more important than avoiding displays of cunt. < not really, was just to impress girls. |
21:15 |
mircea_popescu |
that too |
21:16 |
Bugpowder |
sounds good |
21:16 |
Vexual |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sikjs9Jl_tg |
21:16 |
Bugpowder |
BingoBoingo: weighting sux |
21:16 |
mircea_popescu |
look at that, benkay may have actually got himself rich. |
21:16 |
ozbot |
Sam Simmons Problems 'Daddy wants a biscuit' - YouTube |
21:16 |
Bugpowder |
cardano... looks legit! |
21:16 |
BingoBoingo |
Bugpowder: Not really given where Gox is going. |
21:17 |
Bugpowder |
BingoBoingo: I think there is an 80% chance that resolves as yes. |
21:17 |
BingoBoingo |
Oh, ye of excessive faith. |
21:19 |
BingoBoingo |
KRS-One: A decent second choice would be to start a BitBet. |
21:20 |
BingoBoingo |
South Syndney Rabbitohs to win the NRL regular season. |
21:21 |
cazalla |
up the tigers |
21:21 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.115 = 0.345 BTC [-] |
21:22 |
ThickAsThieves |
i took no on that bet |
21:22 |
Bugpowder |
BingoBoingo: If you feel so strongly, why not buy the O.USD.P500T @ 1.500 BTC |
21:22 |
ThickAsThieves |
just in case |
21:23 |
BingoBoingo |
Bugpowder: I'm tied up in other things atm. |
21:23 |
ThickAsThieves |
well, for fun |
21:23 |
KRS-One |
That gox bet stinks, if they arent insolvent I'm sure they will be above $150 |
21:23 |
BingoBoingo |
Well it depends on how long they can play pretend. |
21:23 |
ThickAsThieves |
well thats the bet at this point |
21:24 |
KRS-One |
They can get bought out too before anything drastic happens, I'm sure. |
21:24 |
BingoBoingo |
KRS-One: How much BTC are you looking to Bitbet, enough to play both sides? |
21:24 |
KRS-One |
There is a bit of goodwill with the mtgox brand..its been around a while. |
21:24 |
KRS-One |
Heh interesting |
21:25 |
KRS-One |
u can play both huh |
21:25 |
Duffer1 |
brand presence sure but i wouldn't really call it goodwill :P |
21:25 |
BingoBoingo |
KRS-One: Playing both sides is often the best way to BitBet |
21:25 |
KRS-One |
goodwill is also negative |
21:25 |
KRS-One |
just the fact the brand is well known is what counts and even adds to balance sheets |
21:25 |
Duffer1 |
ya |
21:25 |
mircea_popescu |
KRS-One you're wrong on that score. |
21:26 |
mircea_popescu |
mtgox is widely known for being shit. |
21:26 |
mircea_popescu |
this makes it a net negative, like bfl. |
21:26 |
mircea_popescu |
anyone seriously thinking of running their business would immediately rebrand. |
21:26 |
mircea_popescu |
not that anyone seriously is thinking of running their business. |
21:27 |
ThickAsThieves |
rebrand by pissing on it |
21:27 |
KRS-One |
goodwill whether negative or positive is accounted for on balance sheets |
21:28 |
Duffer1 |
ohh i see like trilema asset reports |
21:28 |
nubbins` |
at this point trading magic cards would add legitimacy to their operation |
21:28 |
Vexual |
^^ |
21:29 |
Duffer1 |
i took that to mean something else... |
21:29 |
BingoBoingo |
I still have no answer to my wondering if maybe Mark Gox has a touch of Downs. |
21:29 |
KRS-One |
so even though mtgox has a negative reputation, most publications reference them..is that a bad thing to a new company trying to acquire the brand? |
21:30 |
KRS-One |
publications are always quoting prices from mtgox |
21:30 |
KRS-One |
and they've had a bad rep for years |
21:30 |
BingoBoingo |
KRS-One: Unless you are fiat capitalized out of the wazoo. |
21:30 |
mircea_popescu |
KRS-One it is, yes. |
21:30 |
mircea_popescu |
bitcoin is not a mass venture. this isn;'t trying to bring about the next britney spears. |
21:31 |
KRS-One |
Im not making an argument for that really but i dig. |
21:31 |
mircea_popescu |
that aside "publications" are about as relevant as mice. |
21:31 |
mircea_popescu |
mice have been trying to eat cheese for millenia. does this mean cheese is a bank ? |
21:31 |
KRS-One |
Started out as bitbet wheher gox will go out of business. |
21:31 |
mircea_popescu |
should i plug my keyboard into a large block of cheese ? |
21:33 |
KRS-One |
Happy Birthday dude..not sure what the whole thing is on birthdays anyway..I passed the last 3 without any fanfare. |
21:33 |
kakobrekla |
happy bingo birthday |
21:35 |
BingoBoingo |
Thank you. I already had the delicous birthday dinner. Roast beef tongue. |
21:35 |
ThickAsThieves |
kinky |
21:47 |
mike_c |
gratz bingo. make a bet today. b-day bets are always lucky. |
21:48 |
BingoBoingo |
mike_c: I made the unluckiest bet of all. I bought a lottery ticker with my vodka from the Arab store. |
21:48 |
mike_c |
hah. might as well swing big |
21:50 |
BingoBoingo |
Well it was for the little lotto so I have a 1 in 500,000 chance of winning. |
21:53 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17819 @ 0.00087615 = 15.6121 BTC [+] {2} |
21:53 |
BingoBoingo |
If I win though, I'll probably add 50 BTC to my holdings. |
21:54 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: if one must play lotto, why the fiat variety, and not xxx-dice? |
21:55 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Lotto has a longer lead time until chance renders its verdict. I like to savor the tension. |
21:57 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 12 @ 0.115 = 1.38 BTC [-] |
21:57 |
pankkake |
yeah it feels weird for lotto chances of winning |
21:57 |
BitcoinPropagand |
nubbins` 1st you need to have the right message otherwise you will pass unnoticed |
21:58 |
nubbins` |
no need to tell me that! |
21:58 |
BingoBoingo |
pankkake: Well another upside to the lotto is most of my losing ticket I can know goes to miseducating the children. |
21:58 |
BitcoinPropagand |
what's the concept then? |
21:58 |
nubbins` |
no concept |
21:58 |
pankkake |
I've only bet 3×0.01BTC at 0.0099% chance |
21:58 |
nubbins` |
just talking hypotheticals |
21:58 |
BitcoinPropagand |
i see. |
21:59 |
pankkake |
BingoBoingo: your sentence does not compute |
21:59 |
pankkake |
at least in my head |
22:00 |
nubbins` |
another upside to X is that Y goes to Z |
22:00 |
BingoBoingo |
pankkake: Maybe you are Sparc, while I am still 68k |
22:00 |
nubbins` |
Y being bingo's wasted money |
22:01 |
nubbins` |
Z goes to reading wallabee entrails |
22:01 |
nubbins` |
wallaby |
22:01 |
nubbins` |
w/e |
22:02 |
BingoBoingo |
nubbins`: I'm not an Aussie. Wallabee would be too expensive to fly out just for that. |
22:02 |
nubbins` |
why do i think you are? |
22:03 |
nubbins` |
i think it's your nick |
22:03 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.07001 = 0.9801 BTC [-] {2} |
22:03 |
Vexual |
of the extra hydroxyls |
22:04 |
BingoBoingo |
nubbins`: Prolly cause I'm awake when the Aussies are. |
22:06 |
pankkake |
this chan has weird sleep patterns |
22:06 |
pankkake |
I guess it's why I got sucked into it! |
22:06 |
nubbins` |
it's 11:36pm |
22:06 |
pankkake |
it's 4:06 am |
22:07 |
nubbins` |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=470165.0 |
22:08 |
nubbins` |
it's a new type of win |
22:08 |
ozbot |
[BOUNTY] Need a logo and slogan for new hybrid exchange |
22:08 |
KRS-One |
I still think even though there are companies with bad reputations that buying the brand is still worthwhile and even adds to the balance sheet. |
22:08 |
BingoBoingo |
It's 8 minutes after the hour |
22:08 |
BingoBoingo |
Sometime you suckers will abandon days and learn to embrace living by the hour |
22:08 |
KRS-One |
I'd have to disagree with mircea_popescu. I mean look at K-Mart it was bought by sears and nobody liked K-Mart. |
22:08 |
nubbins` |
heh. |
22:09 |
KRS-One |
A lot of money was involved with that. |
22:09 |
KRS-One |
I learned a little something in college. |
22:09 |
KRS-One |
between parties |
22:09 |
KRS-One |
and work and goofing off |
22:10 |
kakobrekla |
yes, time is arbitrary. i have been saying this for years now. |
22:10 |
nubbins` |
what are numbers, anyway? |
22:11 |
BingoBoingo |
Nobay likes sears either KRS-One |
22:12 |
kakobrekla |
and with that, im leaving cause its fukken late! |
22:12 |
nubbins` |
i'm leaving because i'm listless |
22:14 |
KRS-One |
yeah and they didnt change the kmart brand |
22:14 |
KRS-One |
point is, even though there are people who might not like the brand, its well known. |
22:14 |
KRS-One |
it can be improved |
22:15 |
KRS-One |
try starting up a compnay with some new name that you just pull out of your ass |
22:15 |
BingoBoingo |
No, K-mart has been doomed since Rosanne took its guns |
22:15 |
KRS-One |
even shitts companies make sales |
22:15 |
KRS-One |
*shitty |
22:16 |
BitcoinPropagand |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102333.40 |
22:16 |
KRS-One |
im not saying they are doing well just the fact that iwas a big aquisition and they didnt change the brand |
22:16 |
BitcoinPropagand |
is he/she always like this? |
22:16 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00087601 = 8.5849 BTC [-] |
22:16 |
ozbot |
Here's where I spew my accusations against MPOE. All are welcome. |
22:18 |
BingoBoingo |
BitcoinPropagand: That thread is an excellent exercise in separating soil from shit. |
22:19 |
BitcoinPropagand |
idk i'm just a tourist |
22:19 |
BingoBoingo |
BitcoinPropagand: No, that's my line. |
22:20 |
the20year1 |
taking guns from retailers in teh US always has a negative effect on business. Men hate to shop, by selling guns they bring in men |
22:20 |
Bugpowdurr |
Goat needs to get his Lambo repo'ed and hauled off to jail. |
22:20 |
BingoBoingo |
BitcoinPropagand: Take some time and read. Everyone expects everyone else to try for six months on the reading anyways. |
22:20 |
BitcoinPropagand |
i just did it |
22:21 |
BingoBoingo |
The full six months? |
22:21 |
BingoBoingo |
How many BTC for your time machine? |
22:21 |
BitcoinPropagand |
read |
22:22 |
KRS-One |
ozbot just give my my bait |
22:22 |
KRS-One |
.bait |
22:22 |
ozbot |
http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8ga3op0ir1rs2jpso1_1280.jpg |
22:22 |
ThickAsThieves |
i thought that butt was gold for a second |
22:23 |
pankkake |
gold butts are only for bitcoin conferences |
22:23 |
pankkake |
when's the altcoin conference? |
22:23 |
pankkake |
and altcoin foundation |
22:24 |
Vexual |
know any cool catacomb clubs? |
22:24 |
BingoBoingo |
Vexual: Maybe if you offer evidence of not being a cop. |
22:25 |
mircea_popescu |
Bugpowdurr whats your story with goat ? |
22:25 |
mircea_popescu |
pankkake you should prolly be doing the altcoin conference. |
22:26 |
pankkake |
last time I presented something in public, no one understood what my project was |
22:26 |
Vexual |
perfect |
22:26 |
nubbins` |
that's because you're not supposed to take your cock out on the bus ;( |
22:27 |
mircea_popescu |
pankkake now you see my wisdom. |
22:27 |
pankkake |
not really |
22:27 |
mircea_popescu |
"He had a 4.0 GPA in English (and English fluency-required) classes throughout high school and college" < lol |
22:27 |
mircea_popescu |
pankkake nobody understands wtf atc is also. |
22:32 |
benkay |
goat on the forum today |
22:32 |
benkay |
re mpex |
22:32 |
benkay |
"sooner or later greater fools will run out of money" |
22:32 |
benkay |
s/money/btc |
22:32 |
mircea_popescu |
lol ok. |
22:33 |
mircea_popescu |
amusingly, he's been derping this since 2011 |
22:33 |
mircea_popescu |
in the interval, he ran out of "investor's" money 3x |
22:35 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.11403333 = 0.6842 BTC [-] {3} |
22:35 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12820 @ 0.0008765 = 11.2367 BTC [+] |
22:35 |
mircea_popescu |
here's something to consider : ancient china had FOUR beauties. that's it. four. |
22:35 |
mircea_popescu |
meanwhile the us has had four "major" singer-songwriter chicks this week |
22:35 |
Mats_cd03 |
beauties? |
22:35 |
mircea_popescu |
and bitcoin has had at least fourty-four greatest businesses last half hour. |
22:35 |
mircea_popescu |
in any field oif "business" one might be interested. |
22:36 |
mircea_popescu |
Mats_cd03 ya. beauties. |
22:36 |
pankkake |
I'd think it's mostly because information flows faster. and there's almost unlimited bandwidth |
22:36 |
pankkake |
more crap now! |
22:37 |
Mats_cd03 |
what do you mean beauties |
22:37 |
the20year1 |
greatest businesses? |
22:37 |
mircea_popescu |
and because since they're all ugly and stupid, how are you to even distinguish. |
22:37 |
mircea_popescu |
Mats_cd03 the plural of the noun beauty. like a beauty, two beauties. |
22:38 |
mircea_popescu |
the20year yes. like these dorks https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=465334.msg5143475#msg5143475 |
22:38 |
asciilifeform |
the four uglies. one entices rocks to float. one enwings bricks. one puts out the sun, who refuses to illuminate her face. one wilts flowers. |
22:39 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
22:39 |
mircea_popescu |
"turns rocks to turds" |
22:40 |
asciilifeform |
amazing! rock converter. |
22:40 |
assbot |
AMAZING COMPANY! |
22:40 |
Vexual |
is she a volcano? |
22:41 |
mircea_popescu |
judging by the hydrogen sulfide... |
22:41 |
asciilifeform |
Vexual: nah, merely an anti-Midas. |
22:41 |
Vexual |
can't smell it, just lit my philospohy pipe |
22:41 |
Bugpowdurr |
<mircea_popescu> in the interval, he ran out of "investor's" money 3x Nothing personal. Just one of the scammers that hasn't been shut down yet. |
22:41 |
mircea_popescu |
he has, tho. |
22:42 |
mircea_popescu |
it's just... he has not much better to do with his time anyway, so he keeps coming back. |
22:42 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: So far the altcoin trading isn't going bad. |
22:42 |
mircea_popescu |
cool. |
22:42 |
Bugpowdurr |
I really do want some ATC. |
22:42 |
BingoBoingo |
Bugpowdurr: Buy at market on x-btc |
22:42 |
Bugpowdurr |
I think it could really appreciate in value and I could flip it for 10x |
22:43 |
BingoBoingo |
Sorry x-bt |
22:43 |
Bugpowdurr |
given the trajectory |
22:43 |
mircea_popescu |
what value ? and why would it appreciate in price anyway ? |
22:43 |
Bugpowdurr |
Can one deposit to ATC |
22:43 |
mircea_popescu |
sure. |
22:43 |
BingoBoingo |
Bugpowdurr: x-bt.com is the least scammy ATC exchange. |
22:43 |
Bugpowdurr |
Collective delusions cause price increases all the tim. |
22:43 |
BingoBoingo |
Bugpowdurr: Buy all of my asks |
22:44 |
Bugpowdurr |
What makes ATC any different from 10s of 'mining stocks' or other alt coins? Nothing essential |
22:44 |
Vexual |
its the only altcoin and it has a philosophy club |
22:44 |
BingoBoingo |
Bugpowdurr: Because defining is has continued longer than any meme has in history. |
22:44 |
Bugpowdurr |
It has at its core, the same driver of price as any other one of these. |
22:45 |
Bugpowdurr |
doge is the biggest winner in that fiedl |
22:45 |
mircea_popescu |
doge is in a mudslide all of its own. |
22:45 |
mircea_popescu |
no fields. |
22:45 |
nubbins` |
ooh, 'fi' looks gross in this font |
22:45 |
Bugpowdurr |
The enthusiasm level on the street is palpable. |
22:46 |
KRS-One |
Vexual: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCCkDQ6gbg4 |
22:46 |
Bugpowdurr |
You might not see it over in RO, but in Santa Monica meet up, people were pumped about doge. |
22:46 |
Bugpowdurr |
PRE price runup |
22:47 |
mircea_popescu |
lmao. |
22:47 |
mircea_popescu |
what runup, afair it was going down |
22:48 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, the reason i put zero stock in whatever the us folk get "pumped up" about is because that's what they do for the sake of doing it. they have nothing to talk about so they tell each other how excited they are about random, unremarkable stuff. |
22:48 |
BingoBoingo |
Doge just had a halving didn't it and it still trades below ATC? |
22:49 |
ThickAsThieves |
Doge is basically the social media of altcoins |
22:49 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo doge basically runs a dump and dillute, to extract five bux a head from the starbucks crowd in santa monica |
22:49 |
ThickAsThieves |
a fukn scourge |
22:49 |
mircea_popescu |
in this sense it makes zero difference to count "halvings" and whatnot |
22:49 |
mircea_popescu |
they just change the pow whenever to inflate it all away. |
22:49 |
BitcoinPropagand |
my favourite altcoin: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=458860.0 |
22:50 |
mircea_popescu |
and honestly, if i wanted fiddy grand out of a bunch of cali retards a) i wouldn't spend 80 grand to get it and b) i wouldn't bother this many people with the nonsense. |
22:50 |
mircea_popescu |
but then again that's me. |
22:50 |
ThickAsThieves |
Altcoin is worth more than AKC |
22:50 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: And thousands of penny stocks have done that before. It is why wops that don't read are doomed to repeat history, because Ponzi was a fucking Guinea. |
22:50 |
Bugpowdurr |
It went from 25 to 290 satoshi... I had 20M I bought low and sold at 50 to rebuy on a dip. Felt like I had been unfaithful and was punished. |
22:51 |
ThickAsThieves |
BitcoinPropagand -> www.therealaltcoin.org |
22:51 |
Bugpowdurr |
Case in point - Tweeter |
22:51 |
Bugpowdurr |
TWTRQ |
22:52 |
mircea_popescu |
yes dood, and some twerps made a "brand" out of some youtube video. |
22:52 |
mircea_popescu |
the word is epiphenomena. |
22:54 |
Bugpowdurr |
I respect the position of not wanting to participate in epiphenomena, but this attitude is exactly the same as what Joe Phil Morgan types use to talk themselves out of making bitcoin investments. Or Tren Griffin into thinking that alt-coins are where its really at. |
22:55 |
mircea_popescu |
no argument. |
22:55 |
BitcoinPropagand |
ThickAsThieves there's a exchange for that? |
22:55 |
mircea_popescu |
i was entirely at risk of missing bitcoin entirely, if it weren't for all teh people screaming at me, |
22:55 |
BingoBoingo |
BitcoinPropagand: x-bt.com |
22:56 |
mircea_popescu |
so it's a street not a fence. |
22:59 |
ThickAsThieves |
^ |
23:02 |
Vexual |
BingoBoingo, did you buy some half decent vodka for your birthday? |
23:03 |
BitcoinPropagand |
looks interesting this is yours? |
23:03 |
BingoBoingo |
Vexual: No. I made a point to get the cheapest. |
23:04 |
mircea_popescu |
and with that i bid you all a very good time and you can call me asleep. |
23:05 |
BingoBoingo |
BitcoinPropagand: It is Apocalyptic's exchange |
23:10 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 320 @ 0.00297498 = 0.952 BTC [+] |
23:11 |
BingoBoingo |
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/02/police-arrest-a-woman-for-failing-to-return-9-year-overdue-j-lo-vhs/ |
23:11 |
ozbot |
Police arrest a woman for failing to return 9-year-overdue J-Lo VHS | Ars Technica |
23:12 |
Vexual |
shes luck it wasn't my j-lo tape |
23:13 |
Vexual |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dly6p4Fu5TE&feature=kp |
23:13 |
ozbot |
Jennifer Lopez - Jenny from the Block - YouTube |
23:14 |
BingoBoingo |
Vexual: You know what would be nice? |
23:14 |
Vexual |
whats that friend? |
23:14 |
BitcoinPropagand |
a billion dollars |
23:14 |
BitcoinPropagand |
gtg too |
23:15 |
BitcoinPropagand |
my twitter: btcpropaganda |
23:15 |
BitcoinPropagand |
nice to meet u guys |
23:15 |
Vexual |
link tat propa |
23:16 |
BitcoinPropagand |
lol https://twitter.com/btcpropaganda |
23:16 |
BitcoinPropagand |
bye |
23:16 |
BingoBoingo |
Vexual: Imagine Niki Minaj's ass adapted to J-Lo's frame |
23:17 |
Duffer1 |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_66jPJVS4JE |
23:18 |
ozbot |
Jennifer Lopez - Waiting For Tonight - YouTube |
23:20 |
KRS-One |
j-lo boooooty |
23:20 |
KRS-One |
.bait |
23:20 |
ozbot |
http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8ga3op0ir1rs2jpso1_1280.jpg |
23:20 |
KRS-One |
.bait |
23:21 |
ozbot |
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbza4usTFL1ra0n5co1_500.jpg |
23:21 |
KRS-One |
Mmmm nicew |
23:21 |
Vexual |
how u do that? |
23:22 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9699 @ 0.00087647 = 8.5009 BTC [-] |
23:22 |
KRS-One |
eh |
23:23 |
MisterE |
morning guys |
23:23 |
Vexual |
-booty |
23:23 |
MisterE |
I'm starting to think this Manu Sporny fellow is quite the tool |
23:23 |
KRS-One |
type: .bait |
23:23 |
MisterE |
from his twittwe |
23:23 |
MisterE |
and turn on inline images |
23:23 |
MisterE |
Twitter* |
23:24 |
MisterE |
.bait |
23:24 |
ozbot |
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_madfh1X9GG1qap4tbo1_1280.jpg |
23:24 |
Vexual |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kGvlESGvbs |
23:24 |
ozbot |
Jennifer Lopez - Love Don't Cost a Thing - YouTube |
23:25 |
Duffer1 |
oh nice i totally forgot about that one |
23:26 |
Jere_Jones |
In a currency pair, one of them is called the "Base Currency". WTF is the other side of the currency pair called? Does it even *have* a name? |
23:27 |
Vexual |
other |
23:28 |
Jere_Jones |
Seriously? |
23:28 |
Vexual |
u new? |
23:29 |
Jere_Jones |
I have not the knowledge of someone experienced and often ask stupid questions. |
23:29 |
Jere_Jones |
I have been encouraged to do so. :) |
23:30 |
BingoBoingo |
Discuss https://twitter.com/BBoingo/status/435267161267773440 |
23:30 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 105 @ 0.00290432 = 0.305 BTC [-] {2} |
23:32 |
Vexual |
Jere_Jones, have some cake and finish your blog later |
23:33 |
BingoBoingo |
Jere_Jones: Ask your question better. |
23:33 |
Jere_Jones |
I don't blog |
23:33 |
Vexual |
context? |
23:33 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2850 @ 0.0008765 = 2.498 BTC [+] |
23:34 |
Jere_Jones |
"There are two hard problems in computer science". The second problem. |
23:35 |
Jere_Jones |
BingoBoingo Vexual's answer was surprising but it was a good enough answer for my purposes. |
23:35 |
Vexual |
i just repeated what you said |
23:35 |
BingoBoingo |
Jere_Jones: Maybe blogging is your answer |
23:35 |
cads |
what the fuck |
23:35 |
cads |
martingales are really simple |
23:36 |
BingoBoingo |
cads: martingales suck. |
23:36 |
cads |
they seem surreal |
23:36 |
BingoBoingo |
What works better than martingale is full orderbook comination with a wide bid-ask spread |
23:37 |
pankkake |
lol |
23:37 |
BingoBoingo |
Or betting on sporting events with certain outcomes against brain damaged handicappers.\ |
23:37 |
BingoBoingo |
Right now Olympic hockey is quite the honeyhole |
23:38 |
cads |
I'm not sure how martingales relate to trading strategies yet, I'm talking about martingale measures in the mathematical probability |
23:38 |
cads |
I'm trying to build up to stochastic integrals |
23:38 |
BingoBoingo |
cads: The problem is the problem you identified is too broken to solve. |
23:39 |
BingoBoingo |
Stochiastic shit works in chemistry when mistakes == death from poison gas. |
23:40 |
BingoBoingo |
In BTC/(rando alternative) idiots happen though. |
23:40 |
Vexual |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KE3_6CUMpYY |
23:40 |
ozbot |
D'Angelo - Untitled [How Does It Feel] - YouTube |
23:41 |
BingoBoingo |
If you want to plate the hood and trunklid of your car in rhodium sulfate idiots generally won't interfere. |
23:41 |
BingoBoingo |
If however you try to make some sort of market trade... Idiots emerge to gum the gears of efficiency |
23:45 |
Vexual |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Y4K0J3fPmw |
23:46 |
ozbot |
Cody ChesnuTT - Look Good In Leather - YouTube |
23:46 |
BingoBoingo |
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs-jpA97Wyw |
23:50 |
Vexual |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rDWEMZG0lE |
23:51 |
ozbot |
The Roots _The Seed HD+lyrics. - YouTube |
23:51 |
Jere_Jones |
AHA! "Quote Currency" |
23:51 |
KRS-One |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O20Sljxmy9M |
23:51 |
ozbot |
Quincy Jones - The Streetbeater aka Sanford & Son Theme - YouTube |
23:53 |
cads |
BingoBoingo: idiot percolation theory :) |
23:53 |
cads |
like holes in a semiconductor |
23:53 |
BingoBoingo |
cads: Not quite percolation |
23:53 |
cads |
regulation of idiot flows with subtle currents |
23:53 |
cads |
:D |
23:54 |
cads |
BingoBoingo: indeed, a lot less predictable |
23:56 |
Mats_cd03 |
dongs basically |
23:57 |
Vexual |
fuck thats funky |
23:59 |
BingoBoingo |
12 minutes left in my birthday. WHo wants to level up some cunts 1LvCuntsJyFFQsLuJhBXBPokbQa7SAyMr4 |