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00:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21938 @ 0.0007065 = 15.4992 BTC [+] {3}
00:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8228 @ 0.00070367 = 5.7898 BTC [-]
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00:39 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-08-2015#1252200 << remind me briefly what exactly is is that makes you think you belong here.
00:39 assbot Logged on 25-08-2015 23:55:51; *: Adlai seconds http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=25-05-2015#1144802 until, byte-for-byte, human commentary outweighs assbot spammentary
00:39 mircea_popescu i get it, you leech and wish to complain about how the content you leech is packaged. this makes sense in your alt-universe ?
00:40 mircea_popescu fucking "votes", like that's how it works now.
00:43 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-08-2015#1252207 << why does the woman get a bra! same boobs...
00:43 assbot Logged on 26-08-2015 00:22:33; BingoBoingo: https://slimgur.com/images/2015/08/25/1e1a509a242738a88c28abc6d300165a.jpg
00:44 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: The pretense. As the Obeast loses distinctive sex characteristics it overcompensates in adopting cultural signifiers.
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01:12 mircea_popescu now that's a point
01:19 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-08-2015#1252213 << indeed huh.
01:19 assbot Logged on 26-08-2015 00:34:51; trinque: BingoBoingo: sounds a bit like this news I'm reading of the "market rally" "disintegrating".
01:19 mircea_popescu so why'd they shoot the toddler BingoBoingo ? was it the "officer felt his life endangered" or was it "toddler didn't obey comamnds"
01:20 mircea_popescu heck, give fathers back the power to shoot toddlers that don't obey commands, see the "demographics problems" end overnight.
01:20 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-08-2015#1252289 << the lulzy part is that, iirc, the man writes tradebots himself!
01:20 assbot Logged on 26-08-2015 04:39:34; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-08-2015#1252200 << remind me briefly what exactly is is that makes you think you belong here.
01:21 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-08-2015#1252300 >>>> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-02-2014#509010
01:21 assbot Logged on 26-08-2015 05:20:15; mircea_popescu: heck, give fathers back the power to shoot toddlers that don't obey commands, see the "demographics problems" end overnight.
01:21 assbot Logged on 16-02-2014 22:04:18; asciilifeform: they pass an old man who says, 'don't drown this fellow. i'll feed him dumplings, he won't have to do any work but to dip them'
01:21 mircea_popescu which is fine, whosoever can do whatever the fuck they do, but this voting braindamage...
01:21 mircea_popescu anyway.
01:21 asciilifeform wai wut?!
01:21 asciilifeform vote?
01:22 mircea_popescu in other news, this building is easily 200 years old, the pipes are certainly solid steel, and they got the curse
01:22 mircea_popescu (for they unfamiliar : old pipes in old buildings have, like any other rigid formation, resonancy frequencies.
01:23 asciilifeform waterhammer, they call it here.
01:23 mircea_popescu and one unlucky repair, even one just-such-weight faucet can make the whole thing an organ)
01:23 mircea_popescu aha
01:23 asciilifeform in usa this is pestilential in old flats and there is a - partial - fix
01:23 asciilifeform you can get dampeners.
01:23 asciilifeform (piston of known tension in a cylindrical vessel, attaches to a pipehead)
01:24 mircea_popescu asciilifeform incidentally, this isn';t that. you turn on the water, and five minutes later the whole thing bellows. no banging.
01:24 asciilifeform who said plumbers don't need to stay awake in diff. eq. !
01:24 mircea_popescu and it goes on after you turn it off, for like 5 minutes
01:24 mircea_popescu it actually ends up resonant
01:24 asciilifeform water, rather than air hammer. not 100% laminar flow!
01:25 asciilifeform neato.
01:25 mircea_popescu aha.
01:25 * asciilifeform has vague memories of this as a boy
01:26 mircea_popescu it's about, if i had to guess, 20khz. and prolly was there before but w/e, 8khz or somerthing
01:27 asciilifeform if this were my flat i'd hook up antiphase speaker to the pipe
01:27 asciilifeform For Science.
01:29 mircea_popescu lol i don't give that much of a shit. but i also wouldn't want to own.
01:30 mircea_popescu the many loltraps of real estate ownership, or why you can't really own "as an individual"
01:30 asciilifeform or as with the toddler example,
01:30 asciilifeform don't own anything you couldn't or wouldn't demolish and rebuild correctly.
01:31 asciilifeform (questionable whether word 'own' is even applicable)
01:31 mircea_popescu aha
01:31 mircea_popescu deedbot- feeds
01:31 mircea_popescu hm. how did that thing work
01:32 asciilifeform i rent my bldg. and wouldn't like to have it any other way. unless were so loaded that i could throw it away like a toothbrush if it gets tiresome.
01:32 mircea_popescu owning real estate is its own economic enterprise.
01:32 asciilifeform do it if +ev !
01:32 asciilifeform otherwise why.
01:32 mircea_popescu and hiding the cost of real estate from yourself (i don't rent, i own!) is just bad business
01:33 mircea_popescu "oh, i couldnb't afford to live here if i had to rent"
01:33 mircea_popescu well then guess what ?
01:33 asciilifeform hiding from self is generally bad mojo.
01:34 * asciilifeform just got back from the house of a phriend who, i shit thee not, filled two notebooks with one derivation, pen and paper, because ~none of the computeralgebrasystems he could find were able to swallow it~
01:34 asciilifeform without upchucking
01:34 asciilifeform srsly the whole computer thing never quite happened.
01:35 mircea_popescu !up Casper-
01:35 mircea_popescu nah im not surprised. derivation notation is fucking pn
01:35 * mircea_popescu lived with the exact same problem, even in the old days of derive.exe
01:36 asciilifeform derive.exe !!!
01:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14150 @ 0.00070367 = 9.9569 BTC [-]
01:36 asciilifeform i just set it up on my hp200lx a few days ago.
01:36 mircea_popescu ikr ?
01:36 asciilifeform glorious, it is.
01:36 mircea_popescu a sort of its very own ida.
01:36 mircea_popescu but EVEN IT!
01:36 asciilifeform didja know that it is in mulisp !
01:36 mircea_popescu yes.
01:36 asciilifeform and ported to the 'texas instruments 89' calculator ?
01:36 asciilifeform (runs silently, internally)
01:36 mircea_popescu that i never gas'd about.
01:36 asciilifeform little pocket calculator.
01:37 asciilifeform (m68k cpu)
01:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33045 @ 0.00070198 = 23.1969 BTC [-] {3}
01:37 mircea_popescu anyway. the notion that you can get a computer to "do your derivation" is exactly like the notion that you can get a computer to "do your thing"
01:37 mircea_popescu sure.
01:37 mircea_popescu in... principle.
01:37 asciilifeform should at least cooperate, as excavator in digging a pit
01:37 asciilifeform ought to beat shovel
01:37 mircea_popescu if you're willing to set it up.
01:37 asciilifeform naturally.
01:39 asciilifeform back to 'derive' - there are so, so few proggies that are so ~pants-creamingly~ good at what they do,
01:39 asciilifeform that one remembers fondly, a decade or two later.
01:40 mircea_popescu it actually was so good the baby brother of a friend mostly wanted to "play derive" when he visited.
01:40 asciilifeform i still 'play derive.'
01:40 asciilifeform because i, elementarily, motherfuckingly, ~can~
01:40 * mircea_popescu is grinning by himself like an idiot lol.
01:41 mircea_popescu but yeah, i was explaining to the 5yo plane composition and shit.
01:41 mircea_popescu he made a bunch of 3d sines he did.
01:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00070716 = 5.728 BTC [+]
01:42 mircea_popescu anyway. at least in romania's 90s, the life of a young theoretical physicist was ~90% derive and the rest chicken scribblings of the kind you mention.
01:42 mircea_popescu "what language is this ?!"
01:42 mircea_popescu "math"
01:43 asciilifeform >>> loper-os.org/pub/derive.zip <<< l337 w4r3z !!!
01:43 mircea_popescu unsigned i take it.
01:44 asciilifeform loper-os.org/pub/derive.zip.sig
01:44 asciilifeform just for mircea_popescu.
01:44 mircea_popescu no but see what i mean ?
01:45 mircea_popescu pre bitcoin nobody had any fucking idea what computing even is supposed to be.
01:45 mircea_popescu loper-os.org/pub goes to loper-os.nfshost.com/pub/ if you care.
01:45 asciilifeform prefix www
01:46 asciilifeform but what matter. it ought to resolve, and leech
01:46 asciilifeform this copy is circa 1990 iirc.
01:46 mircea_popescu http://www.loper-os.org/pub
01:46 assbot 403 Forbidden ... ( http://bit.ly/1LvZvox )
01:47 asciilifeform this ain't simtel
01:47 asciilifeform not indexed.
01:47 asciilifeform !s http://www.loper-os.org/pub
01:47 assbot 403 Forbidden ... ( http://bit.ly/1LvZvox )
01:47 assbot 78 results for 'http://www.loper-os.org/pub' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.loper-os.org%2Fpub
01:47 asciilifeform ^ most of'em
01:47 mircea_popescu aok
01:48 mircea_popescu "a buyer who paid 146,500 pounds formerly known as sterling"
01:48 mircea_popescu ahahaha
01:49 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo was this because "no longer silver" or because "no longer a consideration", as in "sterling promise" ?
01:49 Casper- Hey, i've read some of your stuff (qntra, contravex, dilema). is there a list of guys who's opinion you respect? e.g. more blogs/twitter
01:49 asciilifeform dilema ?!
01:49 mircea_popescu Casper- http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/mircea_popescu/ 2nd chunk.
01:49 assbot mircea_popescu WoT Overview - Btc Alpha ... ( http://bit.ly/1LvZEIt )
01:49 Casper- trilema, haha
01:49 mircea_popescu also i rarely write on qntra and pete_dushenski does contravex
01:50 mircea_popescu tho i suspect he might well be flattered.
01:50 Casper- e.g. do u like Eric Vorhees?
01:50 mircea_popescu got a specific text in mind ?
01:51 Casper- no, nothing specific, i'm just trying to figure out who like to read that's all, i've liked Eric
01:53 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo http://qntra.net/2015/08/twitter-forbids-monitoring-politicians-deleted-tweets/#comment-45453 << incidentally the man is right. social media (perhaps pioneered by twitter, when they were trying to get google to spread the fake money by paying for access) have been using something very much akin to the "unheard of" trilema paid content scheme.
01:53 assbot Twitter Forbids Monitoring Politicians' Deleted Tweets | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1LvZMrB )
01:53 mircea_popescu except you get a few thousand meaningless pages per day or something. but those are mere parameters. the idea is the same.
01:53 asciilifeform botnet folks gotta eat somehow!
01:53 asciilifeform not that many practical applications for maxint ip
01:54 mircea_popescu ironically this isn't either. who gives a shit what derps say on twitter.
01:54 mircea_popescu this is the deep dark secret they don't want to face. the "effaceable" trend on social media is just that - another expression of the fundamental truth that social media does not matter.
01:55 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-08-2015#1252258 << clearly community college's keeping up with the times.
01:55 assbot Logged on 26-08-2015 02:31:23; asciilifeform: and the required reading dir is full of 'whitepapers' concerning 1990s-style centralized shitpal-esque 'coins'
01:56 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: for reference, this is the same mega-citadeloflearning where elaine shi and andrew miller ply their trade
01:56 mircea_popescu obviously.
01:56 asciilifeform clitadel.
01:56 mircea_popescu http://40.media.tumblr.com/3c67ec86122253f5d2eb70757b91d789/tumblr_noymgqryMl1uqlm9xo1_1280.jpg << pic related.
01:56 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1LvZWiu )
01:56 mircea_popescu because you'd have to be pretty high to imagine THAT is how eating cunt works.
01:57 Casper- this is Eric's blog, btw. http://moneyandstate.com/bitcoin-separation-money-state/
01:57 assbot Bitcoin and the Separation of Money and State - Money and State ... ( http://bit.ly/1LvZYqI )
01:57 mircea_popescu "what, with the relevant bits safely pushed away, the pudendal shield pressing against the nose. LOGIC!"
01:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21516 @ 0.00070633 = 15.1974 BTC [-] {2}
01:59 asciilifeform srsly, that thumbdrive shit blew me away, it's like you were walking in a medical school campus and found a disk full of guides to bloodletting
01:59 asciilifeform dated in the past year
01:59 mircea_popescu pushing the point a little, neh ? i mean what, even the first basic qualification thing for bitcoin is not a week old.
01:59 mircea_popescu teh ppl dunno yet!
02:00 asciilifeform understand, these weren't even scamcoinz
02:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 94300 @ 0.00070964 = 66.9191 BTC [+] {5}
02:00 asciilifeform but central-ledger thingies
02:00 mircea_popescu yeah.
02:01 mircea_popescu tell you what, plenty of guides on bloodletting in 1795
02:04 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-08-2015#1252284 << sad times huh.
02:04 assbot Logged on 26-08-2015 03:20:23; mod6: low was 0.00014430 on mar. 23rd according to btcalpha
02:18 mircea_popescu danielpbarron hey, how do you feed your twitter ? is it by hand or some sort of remarkably clever script ?
02:23 mircea_popescu and also, http://40.media.tumblr.com/681160776ca56b2ea25a8156ef74034c/tumblr_np27s7HJI81uqlm9xo1_1280.jpg
02:23 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1JxCXEh )
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02:38 mircea_popescu cazalla_ https://www.quantcast.com/qntra.net << you got any fucking idea why the sudden change in baseline ?
02:38 assbot Qntra.net Traffic and Demographic Statistics by Quantcast ... ( http://bit.ly/1JxDGW6 )
02:39 mircea_popescu are these dudes just lying / making up random numbers / multipliers or wtf.
02:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36400 @ 0.0007136 = 25.975 BTC [+] {4}
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03:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.00071022 = 7.3863 BTC [-]
03:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00071022 = 9.588 BTC [-]
03:32 mircea_popescu in the ever-amusing tor saga, http://pastebin.ca/3129249
03:32 assbot pastebin - Miscellany - post number 3129249 ... ( http://bit.ly/1K04654 )
03:34 mircea_popescu "Support is building for changing part of bitcoin's design, after two high-profile developers introduced an alternate version of the virtual currency aimed at speeding up transactions and future-proofing the digital money.
03:34 mircea_popescu Some of bitcoin's biggest backers, including BitPay, Blockchain.info, Circle and KnCMiner.com, wrote a letter this week in support of the existing version of bitcoin—but only if it adopts some of the central ideas proposed by the renegade developers, Gavin Andresen and Mike Hearn."
03:35 mircea_popescu ^ Olga Kharif logic.
03:45 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2012/the-politics-of-bitcoin/ << for the "nobody could havew predicted" pile.
03:45 assbot The politics of Bitcoin on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1K07c9f )
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04:05 cazalla mircea_popescu, qntra been discussed a bit on twitter lately thanks to BingoBoingo's articles
04:06 mircea_popescu ah
04:06 cazalla and fuck millennials and their inability to look before they merge lanes, last thing i fkn needed was a car smash
04:06 mircea_popescu o.O
04:08 cazalla her insurance will cover it but still, they don't cover my time
04:10 cazalla mircea_popescu, https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&vertical=default&q=qntra.net&src=typd ya might have to scroll for the jon matonis and peter todd qntra mentions
04:10 assbot qntra.net - Recherche sur Twitter ... ( http://bit.ly/1K0e9qT )
04:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.0007129 = 1.7823 BTC [-]
04:28 punkman mircea_popescu: and also, http://40.media.tumblr.com/681160776ca56b2ea25a8156ef74034c/tumblr_np27s7HJI81uqlm9xo1_1280.jpg << https://cumshoteditor.com/product/cumshot-editor-pro
04:28 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1JxCXEh )
04:28 assbot Cumshot Editor Pro - Cumshoteditor ... ( http://bit.ly/1KMsTDX )
04:29 cazalla punkman, what's a bet it is used predominantly with pics sourced from facebook friends
04:29 mircea_popescu lolright
04:29 punkman cazalla: even says so in copy
04:29 punkman "Let me tell you – this 37 bucks editor has literally saved me more than 5.000 bucks in my estimates, by just satisfying my needs without the strong need to pamper the next gold digging whore."
04:30 mircea_popescu ...
04:31 mircea_popescu who the fuck is into sex for the ... what, the view of after-sex outside ejaculation ?!
04:34 mircea_popescu i wonder if there actually exists the weirdo out there who spends 9 month intervals on "projects" which consist of amassing pics of random neighbour, then photoshopping wild orgy, then photoshopping her fictitious pregnancy resulting from there, then photoshopping her delivery and so on.
04:37 cazalla sounds like you've given that much thought
04:38 cazalla punkman, lol @ the testimonials "Dude.. this is.. this is… fucking awesome. lol I have never thought I’d actually pay money for software but I couldn’t resist cumming on all my facebook friends pics.. Works like a charm and is actually the best masturbation material ~_~"
04:38 cazalla anyway, that sorta thing is a popular request thread on 4chan from time to time
04:45 mircea_popescu Casper-
04:45 mircea_popescu cazalla actually it's the first time it occured to me
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05:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3991 @ 0.00071556 = 2.8558 BTC [+]
05:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5785 @ 0.00071583 = 4.1411 BTC [+] {2}
05:20 shinohai I shall forever keep this in pr0n bots memory: https://vid.me/QlD7
05:20 assbot Video upload (QlD7) - vidme ... ( http://bit.ly/1i18Meo )
05:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.00071908 = 2.1932 BTC [+]
05:45 cazalla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-08-2015#1252211 <<< easier to just kill the dogs than plead and beg someone to do something about their barking dog at 3am
05:45 assbot Logged on 26-08-2015 00:26:32; BingoBoingo: “This is a mess,” said Jana Chamblee, who lives with her husband, Don, and their three children. “This is the biggest mess I’ve had in my life.” ... Chamblee and others on the block point to a house behind them, where Maritha Hunter-Butler has lived since May 9. She moved in with her three sons, a female partner and their four dogs. The neighbors say the dogs bark at all hours of the night, visitors con
05:49 cazalla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-08-2015#1252232 <<< lol maybe related to the ditz that merged into me today
05:49 assbot Logged on 26-08-2015 01:54:49; mats: he was high and literally said, "i'm not going to crash the car, man" five seconds before he went off the road
05:54 punkman https://planetbell.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/image33.jpg
05:54 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1NTS3DX )
05:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00071908 = 1.2224 BTC [+]
05:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00071908 = 2.0853 BTC [+]
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06:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.0007129 = 3.6358 BTC [-]
06:58 punkman http://bigstory.ap.org/article/0379f53773dd4d359076386ea526cedc/detroit-police-seek-men-who-robbed-couples-raped-women
06:58 assbot Detroit police seek men who robbed couples, raped the women ... ( http://bit.ly/1LAaO1C )
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07:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3386 @ 0.0007129 = 2.4139 BTC [-]
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07:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2661 @ 0.00071908 = 1.9135 BTC [+]
07:52 fluffypony https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3ifrse/iq_190_versus_japanese_police_mtgox_update_in/
07:52 assbot iq 190 versus japanese police - mtgox update (in japanese) : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1NB5Ylk )
07:52 fluffypony "of even 1.1 billion yen from the mount Gokkusu company funds have been lending to affiliated companies"
07:52 fluffypony Mount Gokkusu
07:53 fluffypony awesome
07:53 fluffypony and Marc Karupuresu
07:53 fluffypony lol
07:54 fluffypony Marc Karupuresu-san, glorious leader of famous industry Mount Gokkusu
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08:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.00071448 = 2.1792 BTC [-] {3}
08:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3350 @ 0.00071301 = 2.3886 BTC [-]
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08:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16856 @ 0.0007129 = 12.0166 BTC [-]
08:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10860 @ 0.00070926 = 7.7026 BTC [-] {3}
09:00 danielpbarron http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-08-2015#1252447 << by hand, yes
09:00 assbot Logged on 26-08-2015 06:18:48; mircea_popescu: danielpbarron hey, how do you feed your twitter ? is it by hand or some sort of remarkably clever script ?
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09:19 funkenstein_ "Needless to say, this dumping of sensitive personal and financial information is bound to have catastrophic effects on the lives of the website's users," according to a lawsuit filed Friday on behalf of an anonymous Los Angeles man who created an account with Ashley Madison in March 2012.
09:21 funkenstein_ Is it really needless to say that people are noncommunicative fuckwits, and even if so, does that mean they should be awarded damages?
09:25 punkman http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/ashley-madison-faces-578m-canadian-class-action-lawsuit-article-1.2333933
09:25 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1K1Ifdz )
09:27 punkman funkenstein_: the people that paid a fee to get their account deleted have every right to sue
09:32 punkman http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/woman-downs-200-bottle-cognac-beat-airport-rules-article-1.2337482 heh
09:32 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1JlYKgR )
09:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00070734 = 1.9806 BTC [+] {2}
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09:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1550 @ 0.00071328 = 1.1056 BTC [+]
09:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3230 @ 0.0007065 = 2.282 BTC [-] {2}
09:53 funkenstein_ punkman, ok you have a point there. but hardly "bound to have catastrophic effects"
10:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.0007065 = 2.0489 BTC [-] {2}
10:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7475 @ 0.00070594 = 5.2769 BTC [-] {3}
10:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33550 @ 0.00070394 = 23.6172 BTC [-]
10:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5060 @ 0.00070298 = 3.5571 BTC [-] {2}
10:10 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> so why'd they shoot the toddler BingoBoingo ? was it the "officer felt his life endangered" or was it "toddler didn't obey comamnds" << WHo shot toddler presented as a mystery so far
10:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3249 @ 0.00070042 = 2.2757 BTC [-]
10:15 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo was this because "no longer silver" or because "no longer a consideration", as in "sterling promise" ? << No longer silver nor a pound in weight
10:16 mats http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-05-2015#1144858 << i'm in favor of raising threshold, to 10 or 100 BTC
10:16 assbot Logged on 25-05-2015 20:19:42; BingoBoingo: <kakobrekla> as stated, there is enough interest with a small rebellion on top - so they stay << Maybe raise the limit? Perhaps 1BTC is nao too small and spammy, but 100 BTC is ok.
10:29 punkman traders could vote for tradeblock size by appending a number of satoshis in their mpex trades!
10:29 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> are these dudes just lying / making up random numbers / multipliers or wtf. << Lots of social media creatures got very excited about the certainty we were using to dismiss XTCoin
10:37 BingoBoingo But the actual Quantcast numbers could very well be invented
10:37 mats $ grep -c '[MPEX][S.MPOE]' \#bitcoin-assets.txt
10:37 mats 26993
10:37 mats $ wc -l \#bitcoin-assets.txt
10:37 mats 570689 #bitcoin-assets.txt
10:38 mats goes back a year and some change.
10:41 asciilifeform meanwhile...
10:41 asciilifeform http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/4DB1842C9A8152D692712E1C547CCB631A94D2DD0B72C509FFCC0A1D66BAE2CF
10:41 assbot Welcome | Phuctor ... ( http://bit.ly/1Igc9mQ )
10:41 asciilifeform gcd==6635724473865; Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. <macy@upenn.edu>
10:41 asciilifeform http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/193B1475A224970C48CBAEFB676286194E1CB3AA58826D40081DCECD932D612B
10:41 assbot Welcome | Phuctor ... ( http://bit.ly/1Igcc27 )
10:41 asciilifeform gcd==176093659177
10:41 asciilifeform Charly Avital (1.0.7) <shavital@mac.com>; Charly Avital (1.0.7) <shavital@netbox.com>; Charly Avital (1.0.7) <shavital@netvision.net.il>;
10:42 asciilifeform and, more interestingly,
10:42 asciilifeform http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/5C98BDAEE4C2F62589E9AA3A48BA3A83672C2D118BC92C174D0ED05E85E374F5
10:42 asciilifeform gcd==115689563593438224355064235381090056755163859480449174433830003975037467950966309481394007709292222401673721911305757070903002186880134248491556817065874097861521564574240083326343937488908899708599174992366919884328839153192482261044065875685676447097938344009705169081015113163350134173402351902967563106577
10:42 asciilifeform alice@example.com
10:42 asciilifeform ^ somebody apparently insisted on testing whether we actually gcd or merely trialdivide by smallints ?
10:43 asciilifeform the first two are classic 32-bit-mirror pattern.
10:43 mats phuctor only a week behind now huh
10:43 mats nice.
10:44 asciilifeform mats: i've been feeding it in ~week batches.
10:45 asciilifeform btw, even though phuctor doesn't know it yet,
10:46 asciilifeform 1892723568087551493618009926760646349750467909459205522740818964105167347100605148404547621231828137233618985557651353972652544834696902490261435508019184913443852889174299036165741658177022592368459736005914185040826479573661843378682873100657805929320966265028821081871933334201224905640147632447988816821204762280887813873227995514589266043350766730094335329902939423219963864086671420764362056760171241392986612229786936976293
10:46 asciilifeform 8782865030610011580585795814396421806357354395965320159640864707390392014207044836043353715693836994998437234838731485153184127003171175279749428713283864650143760704836263568001942385593 == 16360365700220383083992880523651957772484327905585940654336777478534165450848968948511765861171837485450883856464038603399315640317512366397354934510310019469606107654802941687468389058162309313111941860583228386078296432650103403156222831
10:46 asciilifeform 5199932231505284351687168764809408601196984251559017124370646263943209 * 115689563593438224355064235381090056755163859480449174433830003975037467950966309481394007709292222401673721911305757070903002186880134248491556817065874097861521564574240083326343937488908899708599174992366919884328839153192482261044065875685676447097938344009705169081015113163350134173402351902967563106577.
10:46 * asciilifeform waves hello to 'researcherz doing research'
10:48 asciilifeform https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindex&fingerprint=on&search=0xE4D2A44D1D8A78CC << our 'alice'.
10:48 assbot Search results for '0xe4d2a44d1d8a78cc' ... ( http://bit.ly/1IgdnP4 )
10:54 asciilifeform https://www.med.upenn.edu/bbl/macy_publications.shtml << dr. macy
10:54 assbot Neuropsychiatry Section ... ( http://bit.ly/1Igez4R )
10:55 asciilifeform ^ apparently specialist in reproductive biology
10:57 asciilifeform http://gnupg.10057.n7.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=user_nodes&user=87 << charly avital. gpg tester ?
10:57 assbot GnuPG - Profile of Charly Avital ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jy7jqs )
10:58 asciilifeform '(GnuPG/MacGPG2) 2.0.20 - gpg (GnuPG) 1.4.15 TB 24.0.1 Enigmail version 1.6 (20131006-1849)'
10:58 asciilifeform finally.
10:58 asciilifeform but i still see no reason to think that the faux key was uploaded from his own system. or that this took place with any of the others.
10:59 asciilifeform who wants to write to mr avital...?
11:14 punkman http://paxos.systems/index.html
11:14 assbot Paxos Made Moderately Complex ... ( http://bit.ly/1IgiQoO )
11:19 mats ;;calc 26993/570689
11:19 gribble 0.0472989666876
11:19 mats ~5% 'pure noise'
11:23 mircea_popescu lol alfie.
11:25 mircea_popescu mount gokksu is the official new name of the generic bitcoin scam with delusions of grandeur.
11:26 mircea_popescu bitcoin-mount-gokksu being what mount hearnu & gokksu a be doing.
11:26 mircea_popescu aka bitcoin-mg
11:27 mircea_popescu danielpbarron oh ok. was gonna want to see that perl wonder otherwise :D
11:28 mircea_popescu <funkenstein_> Is it really needless to say that people are noncommunicative fuckwits, and even if so, does that mean they should be awarded damages? << i hope the trial is directed at THE LYING FRAUDULENT SCUMBAGS that ran the site.
11:29 mircea_popescu <punkman> traders could vote for tradeblock size by appending a number of satoshis in their mpex trades! << yeah seriously. how about this : voice costs about the same.
11:30 mircea_popescu i wanna see all these people who are too busy to read a line worth two hundred bux prove it.
11:30 mircea_popescu <mats> $ grep -c '[MPEX][S.MPOE]' \#bitcoin-assets.txt << not like it's SO HARD to kill a line so marked. which is why they have the motherfucking tags.
11:30 mircea_popescu but apparently we suffer from "xt" syndrome and don';t even know it.
11:33 mircea_popescu asciilifeform our 'alice'. << created 27 aug last year no less.
11:35 mircea_popescu punkman " Before you start, make sure you are familiar with the terms in the word cloud above." motherfucker. being "familiar" is exactly what these poorly brought up children do, and the word for it is impudence.
11:39 mircea_popescu (for the record - lest you be "familiar" with the term from the broken contemporary dictionaries - impudence does not mean "being disrespectful of another person". it has nothing to do with others. impudence is grossly manifest pretense to unwarranted importance. and it's been the distinguishing mark of young adults in agrarian societies since forever.)
11:45 ben_vulpes http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-08-2015#1252300 << reducing the tyke to starvation wages at 18 is the pressed shitboard stand in
11:45 assbot Logged on 26-08-2015 05:20:15; mircea_popescu: heck, give fathers back the power to shoot toddlers that don't obey commands, see the "demographics problems" end overnight.
11:46 mircea_popescu pfff.
11:46 mircea_popescu what starvation wages.
11:47 ben_vulpes "the wife'd never let you"
11:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3990 @ 0.00070872 = 2.8278 BTC [-]
11:47 mircea_popescu so basically the vp is "let's make one of these things that'll never be able to stand on its own" "i'd rather build a perpetual money flame"
11:48 mircea_popescu or a commemorative melted cheese fountain.
11:48 ben_vulpes http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-08-2015#1252346 << subject of, asciilifeform, didja see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X69_42Mj-g ??
11:48 assbot Logged on 26-08-2015 05:34:47; asciilifeform: without upchucking
11:48 assbot Clasp: Common Lisp using LLVM and C++ for Molecular Metaprogramming - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1NUt0jY )
11:49 ben_vulpes guy is rewriting class and pointer locations in memory on the fly
11:49 ben_vulpes among other gems
11:49 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: why would i want to see this ?!
11:49 ben_vulpes claims that his lisp works with force fields and constrait systems as first class concepts
11:49 * ben_vulpes shrugs
11:49 asciilifeform so whence the cpp horrors ?
11:50 asciilifeform if 'his lisp works'
11:50 ben_vulpes fast molecular dynamics tools he didn't care to rewrite himself.
11:50 ben_vulpes etymological interest?
11:50 ben_vulpes er
11:50 asciilifeform entomological?
11:50 ben_vulpes entomological
11:50 mats TIL the HTTP referrer header is misspelled 'referer' in the actual standard and subsequently in the implementations
11:51 asciilifeform mats: old nyooz, whole religions have been built on mistranslations and orthographic mistakes
11:52 mircea_popescu https://bitbet.us/bet/1191/the-hearn-gavin-scamcoin-will-fizzle-in-2016/ << it is my pleasure to report that so far, the herniated minds with the bitcoin-mount gokksu fixation have contributed a total of 533 words and 0.53231949 BTC in actual bets,
11:52 assbot BitBet - The Hearn-Gavin scamcoin will fizzle in 2016 :: 101.09 B (98%) on Yes, 1.54 B (2%) on No | closing in 10 months 1 week| weight: 98`985 (100`000 to 1) ... ( http://bit.ly/1JoYZVq )
11:52 mircea_popescu putting their per-word value at 0.0001 btc by this simple test.
11:53 ben_vulpes i stopped reading at "so if just one XT node..." the other day.
11:53 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: aren't these the same folks who wouldn't buy the ethereum 'derp' futures?
11:53 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: actually ~using~ bitbet, to them, would be a kind of surrender, no ?
11:53 mircea_popescu mats yup. which is how i learned that particular misspelling ;/
11:54 mircea_popescu asciilifeform they're the same folks that aren't buying cars and time with the sluts born the same year as themselves, by the same token. so what of it.
11:54 asciilifeform though, you gotta love the very special imbecile who complained about the 'risk' of being paid bet winnings in '1mbcoin'
11:54 mircea_popescu if it's not on the "electronic foodstamp list" in the supermarket, how'd they buy it
11:54 mats 0.5323? whaddabout the other 1.01?
11:54 mircea_popescu the part on yes ?
11:54 mircea_popescu da fuck ?!
11:55 mircea_popescu that's another mindfuck : aside my feed, people actually bet MORE on yes. in spite of there being 100 on yes.
11:55 mircea_popescu mats oh, yeah. im only counting things happening after thew thing hit the reddits.
11:56 asciilifeform speaking of,
11:56 asciilifeform https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3icef3/leaked_btc_foundation_digest_2013_complete_with
11:56 assbot Leaked Btc Foundation Digest (2013) - complete with confessed NSA stoolies, planned lies to public, etc. : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1hEnOqH )
11:56 asciilifeform ~193 pts
11:56 mircea_popescu pts ?
11:56 asciilifeform 'ups'
11:56 mircea_popescu huh
11:56 asciilifeform or whatever they're called now.
11:56 mircea_popescu oh oh
11:58 mircea_popescu asciilifeform honestly, might not be so very imbecile. it wouldn't surprise me if the fork gets improved to remove selected old coinbases once it's in.
11:58 mircea_popescu after all, once it's in, it's in, they can do whatever they want. which is the entire point.
11:58 asciilifeform camel's nose, elementary.
11:58 mircea_popescu quite.
11:58 asciilifeform 'remove t3rr0r1st coinz!!11'
11:58 mircea_popescu hey, they're already derping about how "bitcoin is regulated" and whatnot.
11:59 asciilifeform 'give back stolen btc to the rightful ownerz'
11:59 mircea_popescu i fully expect they fall back to that nonsense once they [somehow comprehend] they got beaten on technical dispute.
11:59 mircea_popescu just like they fell on this once the previous failed and so on
12:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4850 @ 0.00071408 = 3.4633 BTC [+] {4}
12:02 asciilifeform they have a bottomless barrel of 'improvements'. if that fails, it'll be 'environmentally-friendly minerless distribution' or some other crock of shit
12:02 mircea_popescu notrly.
12:02 mircea_popescu this was the golden bullet, doesn't have a spare silver even.
12:03 BingoBoingo Problem with voting, idiots can vote for things that don't exist yet https://archive.is/eLLcl
12:03 assbot Bitfury joins Chinese pools and backs BIP100, nearly 50% of hashing power is now publicly backing BIP100 : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1NUv5fX )
12:03 punkman http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-08-2015#1252598 << and website's not even half done!
12:03 assbot Logged on 26-08-2015 15:35:27; mircea_popescu: punkman " Before you start, make sure you are familiar with the terms in the word cloud above." motherfucker. being "familiar" is exactly what these poorly brought up children do, and the word for it is impudence.
12:04 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo imo that wants to mean "we don't want things stuck here forever, but we don't support gavin"
12:04 punkman but hey they have a cool domain and they already got the USG grants
12:04 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: if cn miners insist on testing the voltage on the electric fence using own cocks, who am i to disagree
12:04 mircea_popescu which is perhaps the only sane position a fiat-backed venture can take.
12:05 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Of course, but I await the idiot train that assumes it means something else.
12:05 mircea_popescu asciilifeform bip100 is not actually specified yet.
12:05 mircea_popescu it can mean "go suck mp's cock in argentina" for all anyone knows.
12:06 BingoBoingo Or it could be a symlink to BIP $maxint: No more BIPs
12:06 mircea_popescu or that.
12:06 mircea_popescu for all its warts, the bip system did have the practical utility of discouraging discussion over a majority of historical harebrained schemes.
12:06 mircea_popescu it's very own sort of soft !v
12:07 mircea_popescu who even knew that for YEARS this was actually enough.
12:07 mircea_popescu years!
12:07 BingoBoingo Seriously, just enough years for the cartilage of bitcoin to calcify enough to support walking even
12:10 mircea_popescu i guess that's a point
12:10 mircea_popescu biology, eh BingoBoingo ?
12:10 BingoBoingo Seriously
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13:16 mats s.mpoe so stable
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13:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00070037 = 3.4318 BTC [-] {5}
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13:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5350 @ 0.00070032 = 3.7467 BTC [-]
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14:10 trinque deedbot-: feeds add http://nosuchlabs.com/rss
14:10 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1gNelws )
14:10 deedbot- http://nosuchlabs.com/rss added.
14:11 trinque mircea_popescu: currently the thing listens to me only; when I get a chance, I'll grab the code from the deeds module and let L1 control feeds
14:11 trinque meanwhile I can add whatever you'd like
14:19 deedbot- [Trilema] RObotzi S03 Ep3 : Hobby - http://trilema.com/2015/robotzi-s03-ep3-hobby/
14:19 deedbot- [Trilema] The three friends and the means of meaning - http://trilema.com/2015/the-three-friends-and-the-means-of-meaning/
14:19 deedbot- [Qntra] British 'Cultural' Capital Controls Interfere With Commerce - http://qntra.net/2015/08/british-cultural-capital-controls-interfere-with-commerce/
14:19 deedbot- [Recently Phuctored RSA Moduli] Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=609 (Blevins <<wblevins@ix.netcom.com>>; THIS KEY HAS BEEN REVOKED <PLEASE DO NOT USE>; ) - http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/B6D497A91DB9DE78E559BF952FFC44A45C0C8CA5FAB4A23E547F125A6541B7A6#B437CABB5475E65CED65A102B206BE9857C3FD0C9A24DF62941BF5FF46D73AB5
14:19 deedbot- [Recently Phuctored RSA Moduli] Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=519691042937 (Andrew Orr <andrew@andreworr.ca>; ) - http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/D9C5494A7B03BBA6E8699AF3EBACA1A2E3ED77906921EB829571A5AEF2623FBC#BD2846B267D49C865911E7513CAF4254669848792AA6903D280A0F8EBD2813F6
14:19 deedbot- [Recently Phuctored RSA Moduli] Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=4294967297 (Andrew Orr <andrew@andreworr.ca>; ) - http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/D9C5494A7B03BBA6E8699AF3EBACA1A2E3ED77906921EB829571A5AEF2623FBC#211791FC37A1BB035F09E688CE238EE61F2933B6A01D2FC7512BD771F4C23032
14:19 deedbot- [Recently Phuctored RSA Moduli] Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=357 (__test__ <__test__@ribble.cn>; ) - http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/553307AFE540EF3E57BB4D3558C9C7FA88F2C4B81CBCB9F5ADEF116B4055E582#5A0C130A24BF1E31756C501252C9F008E2453391CF4B48D78272C73DCA8CB16A
14:19 deedbot- [Recently Phuctored RSA Moduli] Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=4294967297 (Luciano Buszmicz (Never forget: 2 + 2 = 5 for extremely large values of 2.) <lbuszmicz@zimbra.itx.net>; ) - http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/1C37B216D569982CD4D18802D703548E1A352C5E3C3F6057CEC02FFAFF9C8ABD#9098364A0C829D2334C1FEB28BB32586DD715CDA7CA82EA77EDB06C310FB6268
14:19 deedbot- [Recently Phuctored RSA Moduli] Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=141733920801 (Luciano Buszmicz (Never forget: 2 + 2 = 5 for extremely large values of 2.) <lbuszmicz@zimbra.itx.net>; ) - http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/1C37B216D569982CD4D18802D703548E1A352C5E3C3F6057CEC02FFAFF9C8ABD#A2E1D97BFA1AA0431B12F36B8AB2669779FA7D59960E8323C98B9DA9158B4469
14:19 trinque ^ bleh, got stuck. I'm looking into it.
14:31 trinque I've sprinkled logging throughout. If anyone sees him miss an article, give me a shout.
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14:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.00070032 = 2.8363 BTC [-]
15:00 deedbot- [Qntra] Agora Marketplace Suspends Operations Citing Potential Tor Attack - http://qntra.net/2015/08/agora-marketplace-suspends-operations-citing-potential-tor-attack/
15:06 trinque ^ found some shitty code related to sqlite3 and gevent interacting poorly, made some changes.
15:13 lobbes !rate trinque 1 deedbot-
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15:14 lobbes !v assbot:lobbes.rate.trinque.1:418ef9d0ac439137a8bb5a0f58492af4934b856b27798a3d0754a3cc34eb6a8f
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15:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.00070381 = 2.1466 BTC [+]
15:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00070119 = 2.384 BTC [-] {3}
15:44 mircea_popescu soo how about that virginia shooting.
15:44 mircea_popescu !up anjap12
15:44 trinque the guy says he was bullied!
15:45 mircea_popescu totally justifiable homicide.
15:45 mircea_popescu she wasn't nice to him.
15:45 mircea_popescu it's practically rape.
15:45 mircea_popescu !rate wyrdmantis 1 Good name
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15:46 mircea_popescu !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.wyrdmantis.1:12236e13cb845c19a23fa64c1562d16235680590216f20bc9bde525dc0a619c9
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15:46 trinque there seems to be an ever-growing category of americans which can't handle the slightest jostle of their emotional state.
15:46 trinque pollution? death-rattle of a country? I'm not sure.
15:47 mircea_popescu well, they weren't beaten as kids. so how'd they be sane as adults.
15:47 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> she wasn't nice to him. << Apparently there is a manifesto. He's also pissed about the black church fires and Dylan Storm Roof.
15:48 trinque manifesto, lol
15:48 mircea_popescu trinque i don't see why it has to listen to anyone else.
15:48 trinque k
15:49 trinque and yes, I think it's abundantly clear that being raised in an environment without consequences yields horrible results.
15:49 mircea_popescu without even the possibility of ~
15:50 mircea_popescu !up ascii_field
15:50 trinque and that someone being oh so very upset with you is not a consequence.
15:50 trinque I certainly wasn't arbitrarily attacked in childhood, but I knew very well that certain behavior choices would result in an ass-kicking.
15:51 trinque and I think that's exactly the right approach.
15:51 ascii_field i think this one might be the first 1stperson-pov-filmed postal in usa
15:52 mircea_popescu https://bitbet.us/bet/1191/the-hearn-gavin-scamcoin-will-fizzle-in-2016/#c5038 << that epic moment when xt-ians figure out they're destined to lose, by design.
15:52 assbot BitBet - The Hearn-Gavin scamcoin will fizzle in 2016 :: 101.09 B (98%) on Yes, 1.54 B (2%) on No | closing in 10 months 1 week| weight: 98`932 (100`000 to 1) ... ( http://bit.ly/1JyIOJJ )
15:52 mircea_popescu ascii_field some woman blew her brains out on live cam
15:52 mircea_popescu actually multiple of these.
15:52 trinque I've seen a vid of a dude doing the same
15:52 ascii_field that ain't a postal
15:52 mircea_popescu ;;googe live reporter suicide
15:52 trinque yeah
15:52 gribble Error: "googe" is not a valid command.
15:52 mircea_popescu googe should be a word.
15:52 trinque sounds like an unpleasant substance
15:53 trinque hm, #suicideselfie
15:53 trinque can we get it to trend?!
15:53 mircea_popescu no, for obvious reasons.
15:54 trinque I suppose it'd be short-lived.
15:54 mircea_popescu haha
15:54 trinque were these instances of people acting out common around the soviet collapse?
15:54 mircea_popescu mnop
15:55 mircea_popescu this collapse couldn't be more unlike that collapse in the following fundamental way :
15:55 mircea_popescu the soviet state was a slow, inept drain on the resources of an otherwise powerful, self reliant and resourceful population.
15:56 mircea_popescu contrariwise, the usg is a competent prop of an otherwise inept, worthless and disabled population.
15:57 mircea_popescu the us is going to fail like argentina and the congo, not like russia or romania.
15:58 ascii_field more of a rhodesia
15:58 trinque makes sense.
15:58 mircea_popescu ascii_field i dun think so.
15:59 trinque I wonder if there's some subconscious awareness of this, being overextended and unable to help oneself.
15:59 trinque hence nervous breakdown all over
15:59 mircea_popescu if you push the point, you can claim the various attacks as quite edifyingly narcissistic
16:00 mircea_popescu ascii_field what, you figure the chinese care ? i don't think they care.
16:00 mircea_popescu they might rhodesia japan, and certainly will do something or other to korea. but the us ? i dunno.
16:02 mats https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz6KeqSMAUiubkRxbXN3b1JQM0E le video for those interested in seeing it
16:02 assbot 2015-08-26-1118-50.flv - Google Drive ... ( http://bit.ly/1JyJSgD )
16:04 mircea_popescu is there a transcript ?
16:04 mircea_popescu :D
16:04 BingoBoingo https://slimgur.com/images/2015/08/26/fbd10438e22d1ebbbb299e76d1e96ddf.png
16:04 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1JyJXkk )
16:04 punkman mats doesn't work here
16:04 BingoBoingo mats: You dig up the manifesto, I've been looking for it.
16:04 ascii_field http://www.theverge.com/2015/8/24/9202957/ashley-madison-hack-competitor-dating-site << mega-l0l
16:04 assbot Ashley Madison CEO allegedly wanted to hack competitor after executive discovered security hole | The Verge ... ( http://bit.ly/1JyJVcp )
16:04 mircea_popescu herp
16:04 ascii_field https://krebsonsecurity.com/2015/08/leaked-ashleymadison-emails-suggest-execs-hacked-competitors << original
16:04 assbot Leaked AshleyMadison Emails Suggest Execs Hacked Competitors — Krebs on Security ... ( http://bit.ly/1hfJDvV )
16:05 ascii_field (or i suppose the actual original is the leaked mailbox, which anyone can go and get)
16:05 trinque mats: guy seems like a terrible shot.
16:05 trinque squeezed off 3-4 at <10ft? target runs away?
16:06 mircea_popescu that's another thing. all these "gun violence" exponents are barely acquainted with guns.
16:06 mircea_popescu it's like a "end violence - ban sinks" because a buncha bums keep running into houses, stealing the sinks and buldgeoning the poor ladies to death with 'em
16:06 trinque if he'd ever picked one up before, it was in front of the mirror
16:06 trinque heh, yup
16:07 mircea_popescu "clearly - sinks kill people"
16:07 mats BingoBoingo: i don't think ABC has released it
16:07 mircea_popescu "you don't need a sink anyway, who doesn't eat at mcd ? terrorists, that's who!"
16:08 mircea_popescu trinque dude thinking about it... 4 misses under 10 feet is not even terrible anymore. this is http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ATeamFiring level.
16:08 assbot A-Team Firing - TV Tropes ... ( http://bit.ly/1hfL7pT )
16:08 ascii_field hey there are folks who miss own head !
16:08 ascii_field from 10cm
16:08 trinque hahaha
16:09 mircea_popescu that i can see.
16:09 mircea_popescu people are wired to miss own head. but nobody's wired to miss a fucking monkey 10 feet away.
16:09 punkman http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=45f_1440493492 heh
16:09 assbot LiveLeak.com - Clumsy Kid Destroys $1.5M Painting ... ( http://bit.ly/1hfLqB2 )
16:09 trinque the guy was probably so internally conflicted that half of him didn't want to do it
16:09 trinque flinching with every squeeze
16:10 mats punkman: is a flash video, mayhaps thats why?
16:10 punkman mats, I downloaded it, but such scam, too short
16:10 mircea_popescu trinque untrained shooters have problems controlling their own reactions to the noise/physical stress.
16:10 trinque yep
16:11 trinque everything paints a picture of impulsive lashing out, not some plan, and certainly nothing deserving a "manifesto"
16:11 ascii_field mircea_popescu: actually, even before the round fires - 'anticipatory flinch'
16:12 mats i dunno about impulsive, if he was telling the truth about getting the handgun ~3mos ago
16:12 mircea_popescu well yeah, he learned from prev one
16:12 mircea_popescu trinque the manifesto is prolly just the nigger activistas creaming their pants
16:13 mircea_popescu "whay none of these tyrones can wraet good like white folks! we should do something about it!"
16:13 trinque mats: I dunno that I'd equate not being able to muster the (what? not courage) to do it == having a plan
16:13 mircea_popescu "here's something that i just had my secretary type up and it was subseuqently found yesterday in the guy's dirty laundry bin."
16:14 trinque nobody on the continent has a plan
16:14 trinque just knows how having one looks on tv
16:14 mircea_popescu bip 1337!
16:14 ascii_field if he had a plan, there'd be a ruined bridge or demolished dam
16:14 trinque with steampunk gogglez
16:14 mircea_popescu ascii_field why this civil engineering bend ?
16:15 ascii_field because it is abundantly clear that the standard u.s. 'postal' is going for tlp/fantasy-actualization, rather than partizan/corpse-maximization
16:16 mircea_popescu if he had a plan, he'd have gone with a vest at one of those endless "conferences", except one for law enforcement. that's where all the alread-stole-enough DEA agents & c go to prowl for young meat.
16:16 mircea_popescu wait for 9pm on friday night, pull the pin
16:16 ascii_field spray petrol first.
16:16 mircea_popescu nah, fire's ineffectual.
16:16 mircea_popescu roll around in plastique, roll around in bearing balls.
16:16 ascii_field on the contrary
16:17 mircea_popescu call it the boom donut
16:17 ascii_field fire holds the record thus far in north amer.
16:17 ascii_field !s happyland
16:17 assbot 0 results for 'happyland' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=happyland
16:17 ascii_field !s happy land fire
16:17 assbot 3 results for 'happy land fire' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=happy+land+fire
16:17 mircea_popescu ascii_field fuel bombs are great but impossible to deliver on foot.
16:18 ascii_field that's be fuel-air demolition thingie
16:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00070032 = 7.7035 BTC [-]
16:19 ascii_field not what was meant here.
16:19 mircea_popescu this said, it should be interesting to see what happens if there's say a coordinated booming of all the dams on the sacramento river. 15 minute intervals, going downstream.
16:19 mircea_popescu not like they have water as it is.
16:19 ascii_field ask orlov, l0l
16:20 mircea_popescu still, this approach is ill advised.
16:20 mircea_popescu currently there exists 0 example of a terrorist attack that actually justifies the government effort.
16:21 mircea_popescu what, the terrorists bombed wall street ? uh oh, man in the street is so upset.
16:23 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
16:23 ascii_field my point was that whatever it was the 'postal' folks were optimizing for, it certainly isn't max damage or even intimidation
16:24 ascii_field and the only thing they all have in common is that they play into the hands of usg agenda.
16:24 mircea_popescu (incidentally : usable demolition charges are so unremarkable, they had to make a special treaty so everyone agrees to outlaw untagged charges. which is why all the brouhaha about "Sniffing explosives". properly made c4/semtex etc are not actually detectable on their own)
16:24 ascii_field not as other than quadrapole/nmr
16:24 mircea_popescu ascii_field i dun see it, just because you ex post facto define that agenda (as do they) doesn't mean it;'s anything
16:24 ascii_field (ever wonder why the stereotypical arabian explosive is the suicidally unstable peroxide of acetone? no N !)
16:25 mircea_popescu eh, good luck with nmr on such a scale.
16:26 mircea_popescu for that matter, it's not THAT hard to manufacture.
16:26 mircea_popescu certainly easier than meth.
16:26 ascii_field mircea_popescu: the detector is commercially-available, and mostly works
16:26 ascii_field (with the obvious limitations)
16:26 mircea_popescu right.
16:27 mircea_popescu chief among them, that it runs on windows ?
16:27 ascii_field almost certainly
16:27 ascii_field iirc mats was involved in mine-clearing
16:27 ascii_field mats: does quadrupole nmr earn its pay ?
16:28 mircea_popescu im sure if you have a lot of time and a well defined cube to look into it's useful.
16:28 mircea_popescu ;;google container port
16:28 gribble ContainerPort Group, Inc.: <http://www.containerport.com/>; Newark - ContainerPort Group, Inc.: <http://www.containerport.com/newark-nj.shtml>; Cincinnati - ContainerPort Group, Inc.: <http://www.containerport.com/cincinnati-oh.shtml>
16:29 ascii_field anyone remember the lulzy 'ADE 651' scam ?
16:29 ascii_field (one of the many fake quadrupole mineseekers)
16:29 mats i had to google to find out what you're talking about
16:29 mats i was never trained on such a device if .mil operates them
16:32 mats bread n butter was handheld GPR systems and bigger ones attached to huskies
16:32 * ascii_field just now learned that the quadrupole thing was, apparently, ~not~ commercially available at any point other than in scam form
16:32 ascii_field (empty box)
16:33 ascii_field portable mass spec / gas chromatograph for volatiles - yes
16:33 ascii_field and can be seen at american airports
16:33 mats and some misc sensing/jamming RF equipment intended to diddle remotely operated IEDs
16:33 ascii_field also famous
16:33 ascii_field though one has to wonder what the designers of the mines had instead of brains, for it to work
16:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.00070839 = 1.8064 BTC [+]
16:34 mats poorly informed instructors i would presume
16:34 mats afaik folks caught on pretty quick and vast majority of IEDs became victim activated pressure plates
16:35 mats or manual det via km-long lamp wire
16:37 mats nasty stuff. my unit was rendered 'combat ineffective' overseas a buncha times because all their vehicles got fucked and half the joes were in germany getting fitted for prosthetics
16:37 mats but hey -- get blown up twice, you go home. that's nice of 'em, i guess...
16:38 ascii_field has to be ~twice~ !?
16:39 mats well, if it doesn't maim you, yeah
16:40 mats if you just get rocked, you go back on mission after you an eval by the doc
16:40 mats you get an*
16:41 ascii_field mats: went to a lecture once, by a fella who put forth a model where soldier's helmet ends up playing the role of an acoustic lens
16:41 ascii_field and focuses shock wave
16:41 ascii_field he suggested changing the shape of the helmet
16:41 ascii_field iirc never went anywhere
16:42 mats http://www.amazon.com/NEW-ORIGINAL-US-ARMY-ISSUE/dp/B004RCLM8Q << thats why these were standard issue
16:42 assbot Amazon.com : NEW ORIGINAL US ARMY ISSUE - PADS SET (7 PADS) FOR THE ACH / MICH HELMET : Office Products ... ( http://bit.ly/1JjNNKL )
16:42 mats took a few years for DoD to figure it out, though
16:43 mircea_popescu <mats> and half the joes were in germany getting fitted for prosthetics << germany is like the king of this trade by now.
16:43 ascii_field mircea_popescu: it's where usg has its mega-colonialbase in eu
16:43 mircea_popescu ascii_field you seen those open cone helmet things ?
16:44 ascii_field open cone? as in bismark ?
16:44 mircea_popescu "just as good as the real one, but focuses the waves away from your head
16:44 mircea_popescu dorkiest look ever, too. "hey, i'm a wizard-soldier"
16:44 ascii_field if it's an actual cone, the viet cong might have patent !
16:45 mircea_popescu those just had a point
16:45 mircea_popescu imagine an asymptotic curve rotated around its asymptote with the ends cut off.
16:46 ascii_field l0l!
16:46 ascii_field onion ?
16:46 ascii_field or more like a klyster ?
16:47 ascii_field mircea_popescu: iirc there were 16th c. spanish helms which looked rather like this.
16:47 mircea_popescu well i can't fucking find a piocture, and i don't recall where the fuck this was. some sort of innovative tank helmet
16:47 mircea_popescu prolly classified.
16:48 mircea_popescu no im pretty sure it was cereal.
16:49 mircea_popescu speaking of, "Modi faces crucial test in India as onion prices soar. High onion prices are creating a challenge for Indian Prime Minister Narendra."
16:51 mircea_popescu and vaguely related, http://41.media.tumblr.com/njE9Bw4rvhrhr1i2jOBnpt1Go1_1280.jpg
16:51 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ejt1xL )
16:52 mircea_popescu slash http://36.media.tumblr.com/njE9Bw4rvhrhklphE6oXgAtlo1_1280.jpg
16:52 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ejt4d3 )
16:52 mats http://fluxdesign.blogspot.com/2008/01/didnt-this-guys-mom-ever-tell-him-not.html << warning, graphic image
16:52 assbot the shrunken head repair clinic & sacrificial brazier: Didn't This Guy's Mom Ever Tell Him Not to Bite Blasting Caps? ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ejt90n )
16:53 mats this photo often shown in sapper training to remind joes not to bite the caps. used to be you'd do that to activate 'em
16:53 mircea_popescu oh wait, there's more. http://36.media.tumblr.com/njE9Bw4rvhnzutgn7RqC7Zb5o1_1280.jpg
16:53 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1EjtkbZ )
16:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9750 @ 0.00071215 = 6.9435 BTC [+] {5}
16:58 mats http://www.lexpev.nl/images/m142usa2.jpg << nifty device
16:58 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1EjtSyK )
17:01 mats http://www.cyterra.com/products/anpss14.htm << GPR/MD device. all sappers received instruction on operating this in initial training, starting in 2005 iirc
17:01 assbot L3 Communications - CyTerra Corporation ... ( http://bit.ly/1JjPesA )
17:02 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
17:02 ascii_field l0l l3
17:02 ascii_field they own the ip range of the vampire tap (discussed earlier)
17:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2583 @ 0.00070032 = 1.8089 BTC [-]
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17:27 deedbot- [Qntra] Trilema Publishes Bitcoin Competency Exam - http://qntra.net/2015/08/trilema-publishes-bitcoin-competency-exam/
17:28 ascii_field ;;later tell thestringpuller the name was vitalik, not vitilak
17:28 gribble The operation succeeded.
17:28 ascii_field ;;later tell thestringpuller 'have you believe' -> 'would have you believe' ?
17:28 gribble The operation succeeded.
17:31 BingoBoingo fxd
17:32 mats https://www.jkry.org/ouluhack/Toyota%20Touch%20%26%20Go
17:33 assbot Toyota Touch & Go - Tarlab Oulu ... ( http://bit.ly/1JwvXmR )
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18:00 BingoBoingo So meta: https://www.firerecruit.com/articles/1863329-7-reasons-fire-trucks-catch-fire
18:00 assbot 7 reasons fire trucks catch fire ... ( http://bit.ly/1JwyuNM )
18:05 trinque PSA: I'm moving the blockchain for deedbot- to a larger volume, during which it will reject all deeds.
18:05 trinque back in action shortly
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18:32 thestringpuller !up mitchell_callaha
18:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00070032 = 1.8909 BTC [-]
18:51 trinque ^ back in action.
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19:09 mircea_popescu wb
19:12 BingoBoingo Oh shit, is BetBet the most reccomended betting solution in a reddit thread? https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3ihtwt/this_is_the_most_reddit_sounding_thing_possible/
19:12 assbot This is the most reddit sounding thing possible, but how would you recommend I bet bitcoin that Bernie Sanders will win the election? : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1Klu0Pb )
19:17 thestringpuller i just saw that. they downvoted the betmoose recommendation.
19:17 BingoBoingo Prolly because it doesn't attract bettors, no one goes there.
19:18 thestringpuller yea i di enjoy baseball season on bitbet
19:18 thestringpuller do*
19:23 mircea_popescu not a bad idea actually, some election bets. when is it, nov ?
19:23 mircea_popescu in other news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/njE9Bw4rvh8c6wkdJi64baObo1_1280.png
19:23 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1hgffBq )
19:26 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: November 2016. Primary season starts early 2016
19:26 BingoBoingo The two partie's nominees should be decided by this time 2016
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19:42 mircea_popescu aha. kinda too soon yet huh
19:45 BingoBoingo Yeah
19:47 BingoBoingo Actually the party conventions are in July 2016, could have bets on the nominations open, but still rather early
19:48 mircea_popescu yeah.
19:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2688 @ 0.00070056 = 1.8831 BTC [+]
20:01 BingoBoingo If someone proposes and adequately funds a bet on a nominee I suppose there would be no reason not to open it.
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20:19 BingoBoingo !up Duffer1
20:19 Duffer1 xt :/ wtf
20:20 BingoBoingo Eh, about a weeklong fad
20:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00070032 = 1.3306 BTC [-]
20:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00070032 = 3.4316 BTC [-]
20:28 trinque this "powder keg of anger" trend in the news causes me to anticipate the criminalization *of* anger.
20:29 mats https://grsecurity.net/announce.php
20:29 assbot grsecurity ... ( http://bit.ly/1EXsX1L )
20:30 mats >With that in mind, today's announcement is concerned with the future availability of our stable series of patches. We decided that it is unfair to our sponsors that the above mentioned unlawful players can get away with their activity. Therefore, two weeks from now, we will cease the public dissemination of the stable series and will make it available to
20:30 mats sponsors only.
20:33 trinque well that sucks.
20:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4750 @ 0.000706 = 3.3535 BTC [+] {3}
20:37 trinque kinda points to the idiocy of talking about software in terms of "rights" and "fair" too
20:38 trinque what's the cost of a secure(-ish) operating system? nobody knows
20:38 trinque rather, the price, I mean.
20:39 trinque actually, 200/mo isn't bad at all
20:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00070032 = 2.0309 BTC [-]
20:40 trinque I take it back. They're doing exactly what they should.
20:40 trinque if oddly indirect compared to just buying software
20:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00069843 = 3.7715 BTC [-] {3}
20:45 trinque http://www.cbsnews.com/news/report-joe-biden-not-sure-emotional-fuel-for-a-2016-election-bid/ << team blue falling apart before they even reach 2016
20:45 assbot Joe Biden not sure he has the "emotional fuel" for a bid - Election 2016 - CBS News ... ( http://bit.ly/1EXvxEY )
20:45 trinque I guess Trump's the anointed one.
20:45 asciilifeform nah - clitler
20:52 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-08-2015#1252969 <<< obligatory naggum >>> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-11-2014#923948
20:52 assbot Logged on 27-08-2015 00:30:44; mats: >With that in mind, today's announcement is concerned with the future availability of our stable series of patches. We decided that it is unfair to our sponsors that the above mentioned unlawful players can get away with their activity. Therefore, two weeks from now, we will cease the public dissemination of the stable series and will make it available to
20:52 assbot Logged on 15-11-2014 18:18:27; asciilifeform: l of this "code sharing" is an economic surplus phenomenon. It works only when none of the people involved in it are in any form of need. As soon as the need arises, a lot of people discover that it has cost them real money to work for the community and they reap very little benefit from it, because they are sharing value-less services and getting value out of something that people take for granted
20:55 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: You know soon we will get to find out Preet's feelings or lack thereof for Clitler
20:55 * asciilifeform has very little patience for peddlers of 'hardenings,' 'mitigations,' and other so-called 'solutions' which are guaranteed to advance the pestilence of non-fits-in-head
20:55 trinque they have plenty of time to destroy her yet.
20:55 mats i predicted both of these responses by asciilifeform
20:55 mats where do i collect my winnings
20:55 BingoBoingo Biden might though legitimately want to retire to the country and spend his days waxing his pontiac firebird
20:55 asciilifeform mats: at the international bank of obvious
20:58 asciilifeform i have very special hatred reserved for so-called 'hardening' because it is a sly and weasely psychological trick, which exploits the customary context of the word (as it pertains to, e.g., metallurgy) to support an entirely spurious analogy
20:59 asciilifeform in so far as there is greater complexity, there is greater 'attack surface,' and the result is in every sense softer, squishier, and more turdlike, rather than 'hardened'
21:00 asciilifeform even if it appear to address some familiar exploit.
21:00 asciilifeform *appears to
21:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00070076 = 3.2936 BTC [+]
21:02 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-08-2015#1252966 << we aren't so far from one of the worlds of robert sheckley's stories, the ones with the 'normality meters' in public doorways
21:02 assbot Logged on 27-08-2015 00:28:14; trinque: this "powder keg of anger" trend in the news causes me to anticipate the criminalization *of* anger.
21:04 asciilifeform (doesn't need telepathic electronics, either. face recognizer vendors are sinking $maxint into detectors of 'hinky' (term of art - named after hinkley!) behaviour in crowds)
21:04 trinque aounds exactly like what I have in mind
21:04 mats for fans of anime, 'psycho pass' is kind of a ghost in the shell, minority report take on the 'normality meter'
21:04 trinque *sounds
21:04 trinque citizens with tendencies toward anger shall be required to wear a state-issued bracelet at all times, lest they become a danger to themselves and others.
21:04 asciilifeform first anger, then any deviation from bovinity conceivable.
21:05 mats i recommend watching it, its quite good
21:05 trinque mats: neat, I'll check both out.
21:07 mats 'ghost in the shell' is about a world where 'cyberization', that is, replacement of virtually every organ except the brain, becomes affordable to some folks
21:08 mats the protagonist is a supah-hackah woman who was in an accident early in life and doesn't remember what its like to have a physical body
21:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4350 @ 0.00069822 = 3.0373 BTC [-] {3}
21:12 mats 'psycho pass' is about a japan where devices that can measure mental health are on every street corner, managed by an entity known as the 'sybil system' and enforced by public security. the focus of the story is a public security officer
21:17 phf i wish psycho pass didn't have such obvious animu art style, gives me unpleasant flashback to college
21:17 mats did the animu touch you in a bad place
21:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [BTR] 1461 @ 0.00075546 = 1.1037 BTC [-] {3}
21:18 trinque I rather enjoy it when done well, not that I've seen that many.
21:25 phf yeah, the whole "nerd culture" bait and switch. i watched some anime growing up, mostly because cyberpunk, ghost in the shell, armitage, akira, so when moved here was somehow was also expected to enjoy shit like evangelion or what's that one with rubber guy
21:25 phf one piece
21:26 phf "hey, i see you have heard of movies, we also like movies you should watch movies with us"
21:27 mats lol
21:33 asciilifeform phf: ... so when moved here was somehow was also expected to enjoy shit like evangelion <<< YES!
21:33 asciilifeform phf: my current understanding is that there are 2 basic types of 'anime'
21:33 asciilifeform one meant to be watched like a normal movie, and one with heavy lsd
21:34 asciilifeform (or idk how else even it might work.)
21:35 mats re: grsec post, apparently the offending corporation is Intel
21:36 mats bazinga
21:36 asciilifeform mega-unsurprise.
21:36 asciilifeform though somewhat surprising that they have any involvement with a linux at all
21:37 BingoBoingo Linux is a buzzword, why wouldn't Intel try to exert control over it
21:37 mats apparently in relation to 'a product of a subsidiary', one 'Wild River Linux': https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10126648
21:37 assbot Looks like the product in question is Wind River Linux, a product of a subsidiar... | Hacker News ... ( http://bit.ly/1KOK483 )
21:38 asciilifeform wind
21:38 asciilifeform river.
21:38 mircea_popescu mats really this market will narrow out.
21:38 asciilifeform mats: you know what they're famous for, no ?
21:38 asciilifeform !s wind river
21:38 assbot 3 results for 'wind river' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=wind+river
21:39 mats IoT thingies?
21:39 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-11-2014#910548 << most recently.
21:39 assbot Logged on 05-11-2014 03:54:30; asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: http://cryptome.org/2014/11/wind-river-security-crypto.pdf << what wind river was dinged for
21:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15950 @ 0.0006979 = 11.1315 BTC [-] {2}
21:40 mats ha... 750k
21:40 asciilifeform and, iirc, earlier, involvement with the sco scumbags
21:40 phf asciilifeform: it's a cargo cult. my understanding is that japanese use manga as illustrated prose. situation with japanese culture in u.s. american u.s. culture around anime/manga is essentially "let's read furniture assembly manuals, then read some yukio mishima, then watch cellphone instructional video for 12 yr/old girls, because superior culture of japan!"
21:41 mircea_popescu <mats> did the animu touch you in a bad place << bwahaha
21:41 BingoBoingo RE: 'Murica's decline http://www.edmunds.com/car-reviews/top-10/top-10-vehicles-for-obese-drivers-for-2013.html
21:41 assbot Top 10 Best Vehicles for Obese Drivers for 2013 - Edmunds.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1KOKiMt )
21:41 mircea_popescu segway on list ?
21:41 asciilifeform segway is best vehicle for vertical earthwise travel.
21:41 BingoBoingo Nope, doesn't carry enough weight, also requires standing
21:41 asciilifeform as demonstrated by ceo.
21:41 BingoBoingo !b 4
21:41 assbot Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2VQ57EZ.txt )
21:42 mircea_popescu there's this ancient segway story from the early days of bitcoin
21:42 mircea_popescu back when amir was a "core developer"
21:42 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-03-2014#569437
21:42 assbot Logged on 20-03-2014 03:08:11; asciilifeform: http://www.nbcnews.com/id/39377851/ns/world_news-europe/t/segway-company-owner-rides-scooter-cliff-dies/
21:43 BingoBoingo lol
21:43 mircea_popescu ;;google "Oh, and next time you trash and break a Segway in Vienna that Alex paid for because some fat girl offers you a hug...DONT RUN AWAY AND LEAVE THE SEGWAY IN THE STREET!!!!!! (true story for whoever wants to know. Roger, Erik and myself were there)"
21:43 gribble Bram Cohen, inventor of BitTorrent: "Having met peter todd in ...: <https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2zkkj9/bram_cohen_inventor_of_bittorrent_having_met/>; the of to a and in that is for on it with as was he his - Free Document ...: <http://www.downhi.com/word/YDWCCilJ2M1K.txt>
21:43 mircea_popescu lolz
21:44 asciilifeform l0l, whizzardz!
21:44 * asciilifeform reads their logz on occasion
21:44 mircea_popescu you probably read the fucking eskimo book of the dead, on occasion.
21:44 asciilifeform occasion.
21:45 asciilifeform get the walrus-skin binding, if available.
21:47 mircea_popescu you know, plural of walrus should be walroi
21:47 asciilifeform i usually 'walri'
21:47 mircea_popescu wtf is this walrus"es" bs.
21:47 BingoBoingo Wal-Roy
21:47 mircea_popescu next to wal-fart, the largest employer in america!
21:49 asciilifeform mallfart.
21:49 BingoBoingo https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67199.msg1100157#msg1100157
21:49 assbot Bitcoin Conference 2012- London 15-16 Sept | ANNOUNCEMENT sponsorship available! ... ( http://bit.ly/1KOKSd1 )
21:50 mats curiously, INTC took a ~10% dive in the two weeks following the publication of 'Intel Subsidiary Agrees to 750k Penalty for Unauthorized Encryption Exports'
21:51 asciilifeform '750k plus a light tap by the fed on the brake pedal'
21:52 asciilifeform reminds me of my crackpot hypothesis that the 47 megabux '419sp4mz0red away' by ubiquiti corp. is actually a secret fine levied by nsa star chamber
21:52 mats 750k shouldn't even sting. in fact, i'd think their stock _would go up_ following the closure of the matter and such a light settlement
21:52 asciilifeform and that outrageous losses by public american corps are in fact results of gag order
21:52 asciilifeform and the fact that ~something~ must be said,
21:53 asciilifeform because shareholders' pocket calculators don't respond to gag orders (yet.)
21:53 mircea_popescu the soviets did outright steal from the various coops, entreprises scl towards the end
21:54 asciilifeform where else.
21:54 mircea_popescu so perhaps.
21:54 mircea_popescu exactly
21:54 mircea_popescu circulating capital.
21:54 mircea_popescu so this shop sells dried fruit. omfg it's good.
21:54 mircea_popescu sundried peaches. mangoes. you name it.
21:57 asciilifeform 24k btc !
21:57 asciilifeform woah.
21:58 * asciilifeform had an early but astonishingly (likely beyond anybody here's belief) introduction to bitcoin
21:58 asciilifeform astonishingly asocial ^^^^
21:59 asciilifeform was interested, for instance, in mining, but at no point contemplated buying anything or paying anyone to do it
21:59 mircea_popescu 24 hm ?
21:59 asciilifeform so missed all of this hilarious 2012 drama
21:59 mircea_popescu oh. yeah.
21:59 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: was reading BingoBoingo's link
21:59 * BingoBoingo too the asocial introduction to BTC route as well
21:59 trinque I found out about bitcoin when a friend of mine mentioned he'd lost 136 on an encrypted hard drive for which he lost the keys.
22:00 asciilifeform trinque: he still has it ?
22:00 asciilifeform trinque: 'cause i'll buy it.
22:01 trinque no, idiot reformatted it and put music or movies on it if I recall.
22:01 asciilifeform eh.
22:02 asciilifeform hint for anybody contemplating this line of adventure: ~don't~ ask 'encrypted how' before bidding.
22:02 asciilifeform reveals information to adversary for free.
22:02 asciilifeform but perhaps this is obvious.
22:05 kakobrekla i also know a guy who lost bout that much on a week old ssd - controller dead
22:05 asciilifeform would also buy.
22:06 asciilifeform why didn't kakobrekla buy it!
22:06 trinque that one sounds way more salvageable
22:08 kakobrekla if you think the trick with replacing the controller with another from same model will work - it will not.
22:08 asciilifeform i know very well that it does not.
22:09 asciilifeform kakobrekla: what one does in such a case is to lift the nands
22:10 mats and then?
22:10 asciilifeform (and no, restoring the contents, once they are resoldered onto something built for the occasion, is not trivial - need to reconstruct the 'wear-leveling' scheme)
22:10 asciilifeform but this is a much easier way to earn 100+ btc than nearly anything else.
22:10 kakobrekla well, not in 2012 or whenever it happened.
22:11 kakobrekla 2011 even perhaps.
22:11 asciilifeform today.
22:11 kakobrekla well - you know why kako didnt buy.
22:11 BingoBoingo because car?
22:11 asciilifeform because 100btc were lying on the pavement in those days...
22:11 kakobrekla aha.
22:16 asciilifeform https://cryptome.org/2015/08/flash-boys-050.pdf << many lulz >> http://dpaste.com/1ECRSC1
22:16 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1KONgQV )
22:16 assbot dpaste: 1ECRSC1 ... ( http://bit.ly/1KONeZt )
22:17 asciilifeform ^ concerns organized mass whining re: 'high frequency traders'
22:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6850 @ 0.00071098 = 4.8702 BTC [+] {5}
22:31 mircea_popescu asciilifeform https://github.com/bitcoinxt/bitcoinxt/commits/master << check out how a github project of "code handed from above" looks.
22:31 mircea_popescu they dumped it, after which they fixed two typos in five weeks.
22:32 BingoBoingo Oh, gitrub is down here
22:32 BingoBoingo "The page isn't redirecting properly"
22:33 mircea_popescu odd.
22:35 BingoBoingo Well, china is DDoSing them again...
22:36 BingoBoingo Github reportedly mitigated that quickly this time. Could be fresh DDoS or maybe BGP shennanigans
22:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00070125 = 1.8934 BTC [-]
22:42 mircea_popescu so i'm comissioning a commemorative drawing of the defeat of the xt,
22:42 mircea_popescu and i got a coupla spots to fill in hell.
22:42 mircea_popescu anyone care to suggest ?
22:42 BingoBoingo Stingray raping Hearn?
22:42 mircea_popescu obviously he'd be in there. suggest whom i might have overlooked.
22:43 BingoBoingo No, I'm more concerned with suggesting the stingray getting its rape on.
22:43 BingoBoingo Ver?
22:43 mircea_popescu ver is involved ?!
22:43 BingoBoingo e tweeted support
22:43 mircea_popescu i thought he was in customs detention
22:44 mircea_popescu anyway, im not beating [too many] dead horses.
22:44 BingoBoingo No, he was jsut barred entry
22:46 BingoBoingo Ver barred entry in much the way I am barred exit (for nao)
22:47 mircea_popescu fu8cking ridiculous, no actual names in favour to be found.
22:47 mircea_popescu gavin, dyke, and that's ite.
22:48 BingoBoingo Well Conde Nast et al in the media
22:48 BingoBoingo There's also the letter of 8 companies sharing a bunch of VC's who wrote about supporting XT without saying XT
22:49 mircea_popescu i guess ima have to dig in that shitpile.
22:49 mircea_popescu a you know what ? i'm putting murck in there.
22:49 mircea_popescu because fuck your stupid mother, you idiot you.
22:50 BingoBoingo Lotta atroturf, few actual names I've cared to remember beyond the two An heroes for XT's cause
22:53 mircea_popescu myeah.
22:53 BingoBoingo I mean there's unknown reddit derps including a few who shilled for mining scams before.
22:56 BingoBoingo Really gotta go to fucks like Ver to get recognizable names
22:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00070224 = 1.4045 BTC [+]
22:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3288 @ 0.00070165 = 2.307 BTC [-] {3}
22:59 BingoBoingo "addr" : "128.8.124.7:34971" << Another "subver" : "/UMD-Coinscope:0.0/"
23:04 BingoBoingo !up bekusoraru
23:04 BingoBoingo 'Introduce yourself bekusoraru
23:15 asciilifeform <BingoBoingo> "addr" : "128.8.124.7:34971" << Another "subver" : "/UMD-Coinscope:0.0/" << elaine shi & co
23:15 asciilifeform <mircea_popescu> fu8cking ridiculous, no actual names in favour to be found. << andreesen ?
23:16 asciilifeform <mircea_popescu> so i'm comissioning a commemorative drawing of the defeat of the xt, << it was defeated ?!
23:20 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-08-2015#1253130 << appears to be mostly identical to gavin's pile o'shit
23:20 assbot Logged on 27-08-2015 02:31:45; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform https://github.com/bitcoinxt/bitcoinxt/commits/master << check out how a github project of "code handed from above" looks.
23:22 BingoBoingo lol Auracoin http://www.econotimes.com/Bitfilm-starts-crowdfunding-campaign-for-%E2%80%9CSatoshis-Last-Will%E2%80%9D-80649
23:22 assbot Bitfilm starts crowdfunding campaign for “Satoshis Last Will” - EconoTimes ... ( http://bit.ly/1LxCOQF )
23:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1470 @ 0.00070308 = 1.0335 BTC [+]
23:24 * asciilifeform contemplates 'pools are a fatal bug
23:24 asciilifeform '
23:24 asciilifeform esp. in light of last night's thread, and of http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=08-08-2015#1230072
23:24 assbot Logged on 08-08-2015 03:27:00; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-08-2015#1229784 << this is only a problem of resource distribution. yes, in a world where for incomprehensible reasons every unit of plancton gets disposable money, you get britney spears and reddit.
23:28 mircea_popescu pools are a bug. fatal... dunno
23:29 asciilifeform guess we find out soon, neh ?
23:29 mircea_popescu myeah.
23:30 bekusoraru my segway does 120 vert. i fucked the landing, now i am hurt.
23:31 asciilifeform and they're a bug not merely in the hearnia-enabling sense. but in a philosophical sense - dollars to doughnuts it was the existence of the pool, of derps-mattering-in-the-aggregate-and-knowing-it, that bred many of the socio-psychiatric ills of 2011-present btc
23:31 * asciilifeform was thinking of only this while being eaten alive by mosquitoes
23:33 BingoBoingo They are definitely a bug satoshi missed when he wrote up mining attached nodes.
23:34 mircea_popescu eh, get out of here. you should have been here earlier, back when someone being in btc was 50-50 they're pedos too.
23:34 asciilifeform l0l i thought there was just that one
23:34 asciilifeform pierce something-or-other
23:35 BingoBoingo Eh, I went back and read the "don't run bitcoin on a VPS because you will get bounced for CPU usage"
23:35 BingoBoingo So much archaeology
23:35 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> pierce something-or-other << Also the Wagner guy
23:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3450 @ 0.00070509 = 2.4326 BTC [+] {3}
23:44 BingoBoingo Pierce as a child https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0c/FirstKidfilm.jpg
23:44 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1i3pM3R )
23:45 BingoBoingo related https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--L_8Y8Hqy--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/1402943634426404784.jpg
23:45 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1i3pRo3 )
23:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2156 @ 0.00070308 = 1.5158 BTC [-]
23:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00070028 = 4.4118 BTC [-] {4}
23:58 asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2015/the-fetlife-meatlist-volume-ii/#comment-115148 << mega-reply
23:58 assbot The Fetlife Meatlist - Volume II on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jx44Lt )
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