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00:04 BingoBoingo Win http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--GsVkysXZ--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/1400215357088099761.png
00:04 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1MQ1ZRQ )
00:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20100 @ 0.00071698 = 14.4113 BTC [+]
00:15 mircea_popescu da fuck is that ?
00:15 BingoBoingo A frat house on freshman move in day
00:16 BingoBoingo They put out a polite invitation for the girls and their mums
00:17 mircea_popescu mmkay.
00:19 BingoBoingo ;;bc,stats
00:19 gribble Current Blocks: 371413 | Current Difficulty: 5.425663032788996E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 372959 | Next Difficulty In: 1546 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 0 hours, 56 minutes, and 6 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
00:29 mircea_popescu http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/priority-ashley-madison-leak-no-big-deal-think/ << shit i was wrong.
00:29 assbot Ashley Madison Leak No Big Deal? Think Again ... ( http://bit.ly/1KJd7K9 )
00:30 mircea_popescu "Ironically, this is the second time I’ve run across Popescu in my writing. Popescu is a member of a group who call themselves “The Bitcoin Lordship,” who opposed a necessary increase in the Bitcoin block size for some very silly and shortsighted reasons. I remember thinking that he in particular was an ugly combination of paranoid, narcissistic, and downright mean. I now feel somewhat vindicated in that assessme
00:30 mircea_popescu nt, and more than a little gratified that his blog seems to have shutdown in the ensuing mess."
00:30 mircea_popescu herp ?
00:30 mircea_popescu "Trust me: nothing of value was lost."
00:31 mircea_popescu "The latest Tweets from Andre Infante (@AndreTI). FutureTech editor at MakeUseOf. Game developer. Future savior of humanity. New Mexico."
00:31 mircea_popescu mmkay.
00:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21200 @ 0.00071723 = 15.2053 BTC [+]
00:36 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: 'if i say it three times, it is true!' (tm) (r) (lewis carroll)
00:37 mircea_popescu still, derp gets the prize for paying attention.
00:37 asciilifeform handler gets prize.
00:37 asciilifeform derp - gets salary.
00:37 BingoBoingo "I now feel somewhat vindicated in that assessment, and more than a little gratified that his blog seems to have shutdown in the ensuing mess." << IncrediLoL
00:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44400 @ 0.00071796 = 31.8774 BTC [+] {3}
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01:07 felipelalli mircea_popescu, just buy 5000 nodes and stop with this joke, please: http://www.xtnodes.com/
01:07 assbot XTnodes.com - Bitcoin XT Nodes ... ( http://bit.ly/1Lu6LBf )
01:07 BingoBoingo Can't even spell Andressen, can't even link qntra https://archive.is/zokeX
01:07 assbot The Hard Fork: Will Bitcoin XT Take? - NASDAQ.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1Lu6NJe )
01:09 BingoBoingo <felipelalli> mircea_popescu, just buy 5000 nodes and stop with this joke, please: http://www.xtnodes.com/ << But that wouldn't be very shiny and chrome
01:09 assbot XTnodes.com - Bitcoin XT Nodes ... ( http://bit.ly/1Lu6LBf )
01:09 felipelalli BingoBoingo, lol I'm so ingenuous. Thank you!
01:10 felipelalli I just forgot that.
01:11 felipelalli BingoBoingo, but it would be funny.
01:12 BingoBoingo felipelalli: But not maximally funny. Better to keep therealbitcoin gearing low nao to better handle rocks. Gotta get pwer from the flywheel to the ground to climb a mountain
01:14 felipelalli They setup 3500 nodes in few minutes, low blow.
01:14 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo he prolly loaded it during a ddos bout or something
01:15 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: There surprisingly hasn't been a qntra DoS that I have noticed since the XT'ening
01:15 mircea_popescu felipelalli im not entirely sure what the fake node count does tbh.
01:15 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo or since some guy came in here and apologize about something vague
01:16 BingoBoingo Well, onto the qntra comments for the same. These things happen with increasing frequency.
01:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58757 @ 0.00071113 = 41.7839 BTC [-] {2}
01:22 mircea_popescu http://bitcoingriefers.com/rankings/ << 2nd!
01:22 assbot Rankings | Bitcoin Griefers ... ( http://bit.ly/1Lu7d2v )
01:24 BingoBoingo Above Pirateat40!!!
01:26 BingoBoingo the 1418 is pretty weak though mircea_popescu, better fix that
01:27 mircea_popescu i am the only "political prisoner" on the list so to speak.
01:29 BingoBoingo lol
01:33 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: now you are #1
01:34 mircea_popescu lol ?
01:34 mircea_popescu http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-21537-post-1096996.html#pid1096996 << kinda incredible how far bitcoin actually reaches.
01:34 assbot The Bitcoin thread ... ( http://bit.ly/1U3BnRD )
01:34 mircea_popescu what do zerohedge, rooshv and whatever have in common ? a live interest in bitcoin
01:34 mircea_popescu sorta like being a name in flying cca 1920, everyone's got a throught for you.
01:37 mircea_popescu wait BingoBoingo is that you ?
01:37 BingoBoingo Not that one, no
01:39 BingoBoingo I am never apologetic to randos on the interwebz
01:45 BingoBoingo So, I moved the Popescu, Ulbricht slate above the shitheads on that griefer site. No good reason why MP and RU should have low elo ratings.
01:49 mircea_popescu what am i gonna tell my mom!
01:50 BingoBoingo You won?
01:50 mircea_popescu hm.
01:50 BingoBoingo I'm voting based on misery brought upon Derps, no moral consideration involved
01:51 BingoBoingo Or is griefing not the act of bringing grief upon people/beoble
01:54 ben_vulpes ;;later tell pete_dushenski not really my jam.
01:54 gribble The operation succeeded.
01:54 mircea_popescu i have no idea lol. voting stuff.
01:57 ben_vulpes http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-08-2015#1251096 << i actually ran into a client thing that looks 90% hand rolled
01:57 assbot Logged on 25-08-2015 00:40:27; phf: is a standard answer to "howto in ruby?" "we use pegster gem with mustashbar extension, though lately we've been migrating to fellater gem"
01:57 ben_vulpes has been limping along since 2007
01:57 ben_vulpes ghost galleon in orbit. everyone fears it and doesn't know how it works.
02:07 * mircea_popescu wonders if fellater gem is actually a thing
02:07 ben_vulpes 'factory girl' is close
02:08 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: i'll be puzzling over that quiz for a bit. wonderful fun!
02:08 ben_vulpes i'd probably sweat through a shirt taking it
02:09 mircea_popescu make sure you reload it sometime tomorrow just in case i actually wake up with any ideas.
02:10 * BingoBoingo seriously suggests biology section
02:11 mircea_popescu it does give me a taste of a very old yet apparently not forgotten "you are not expected to understand this" day at special math studies group within gifted kids hs. which is hopefully a ghood thing.
02:11 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo im not putting a biology section in there!
02:11 mircea_popescu what if it raises ctulhu!
02:11 BingoBoingo Isn't it supposed to!
02:12 mircea_popescu no.
02:12 mircea_popescu it's like perverse asian sex practice. edging only.
02:13 BingoBoingo Fine, if it is edging Biology section only needs one question: "Is fire alive?"
02:15 mircea_popescu ima make a metaphysical section with quotes from you.
02:16 BingoBoingo Could work. I just dunno why alf is so anti-section b
02:16 ben_vulpes c4: "python so that the world might participate"
02:18 mircea_popescu avram iancu is a romanian folk hero. famously a guy answered "describe in brief the life and activity of avram iancu" task by writing down the letter R
02:18 mircea_popescu which turns the name into "Avram takes it in the butt"
02:18 ben_vulpes http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-08-2015#1251301 << input parsing is hard yo just ask the pygpg people
02:18 assbot Logged on 25-08-2015 01:22:58; mircea_popescu: either &lt; or something. esp <--- is a comment.
02:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38950 @ 0.00071516 = 27.8555 BTC [+] {2}
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02:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17650 @ 0.00070876 = 12.5096 BTC [-] {4}
02:52 trinque deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/0A1CH2K.txt
02:52 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jix6Bz )
02:52 deedbot- accepted: 1
02:57 wyrdmantis !h
02:57 assbot http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots/assbot
03:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 76669 @ 0.00071422 = 54.7585 BTC [+] {3}
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03:36 fluffypony http://mybroadband.co.za/news/software/136148-most-popular-programming-languages-on-github-2008-to-2015.html
03:36 assbot Most popular programming languages on Github: 2008 to 2015 ... ( http://bit.ly/1WPnsxg )
03:37 fluffypony tl;dr: decline in Ruby, Python, and C. Massive increase in Java, C#, and CSS. Javascript is #1.
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04:00 mircea_popescu lol sorry about that wyrdmantis
04:01 mircea_popescu heh
04:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48200 @ 0.00070869 = 34.1589 BTC [-]
04:06 mircea_popescu fluffypony in fairness, if one did the same calculation for "artists", bellybutton lint would probably figure very high
04:06 fluffypony hah hah
04:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19500 @ 0.00071542 = 13.9507 BTC [+]
04:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 77000 @ 0.00071681 = 55.1944 BTC [+] {3}
04:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 92050 @ 0.00070768 = 65.1419 BTC [-] {4}
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05:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 84200 @ 0.00070699 = 59.5286 BTC [-] {2}
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05:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00070654 = 5.3697 BTC [-] {2}
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06:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56350 @ 0.00071242 = 40.1449 BTC [+]
06:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30150 @ 0.00071242 = 21.4795 BTC [+]
06:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6550 @ 0.00070905 = 4.6443 BTC [-]
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07:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35000 @ 0.00071159 = 24.9057 BTC [+]
07:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 85900 @ 0.00071058 = 61.0388 BTC [-] {5}
07:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67903 @ 0.00070654 = 47.9762 BTC [-]
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07:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36750 @ 0.00071443 = 26.2553 BTC [+]
07:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38550 @ 0.00070751 = 27.2745 BTC [-]
08:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10143 @ 0.00070779 = 7.1791 BTC [+]
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08:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35850 @ 0.00070707 = 25.3485 BTC [-] {3}
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08:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47000 @ 0.00070659 = 33.2097 BTC [-] {3}
08:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61627 @ 0.00070645 = 43.5364 BTC [-] {5}
09:07 asciilifeform ;;later tell mircea_popescu dulap is down - whole machine.
09:07 gribble The operation succeeded.
09:09 kakobrekla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-08-2015#1251447 +1
09:09 assbot Logged on 25-08-2015 02:13:39; mircea_popescu: care to put some selections on your blog ?
09:10 asciilifeform ;;later tell mircea_popescu 'network is unreachable'
09:10 gribble The operation succeeded.
09:12 asciilifeform ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://dpaste.com/17SQB7H.txt
09:12 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1MR5LKH )
09:12 gribble The operation succeeded.
09:12 gernika BingoBoingo: did you mean cron instead of "chron" here? http://qntra.net/2015/08/twitter-forbids-monitoring-politicians-deleted-tweets/
09:12 assbot Twitter Forbids Monitoring Politician's Deleted Tweets | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1MPW2Ex )
09:13 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: and shouldn't it be 'politicians' deleted tweets' ?
09:13 wyrdmantis asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=23-08-2015#1249548 can you explain more about this? why l2 cache is relevant? thanks in advance
09:13 assbot Logged on 23-08-2015 15:08:04; wyrdmantis: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=19-08-2015#1244364 asciilifeform can you explain me why this is relevant? i person i know has told me that L2 chache is irrelevant because "the working set of memory pages veryfing ECDSA signatures is extremely small and takes places also in L1” I don’t have counter-arguments with him because this is not my field but… i trust your opinion more. Also he says that
09:14 asciilifeform wyrdmantis: for instance, there is more than one signature in a block !
09:15 asciilifeform wyrdmantis: likewise, you must count not only data but code pages;
09:16 asciilifeform wyrdmantis: on top of this, but not last, is the fact that context switches happen and your cached pages are regularly evicted to admit crud
09:17 wyrdmantis ok, so this is why bigger blocks and verification time don't scale linearly?
09:17 asciilifeform roughly.
09:18 asciilifeform if interested in the subject, try to study - experimentally - how your cache works. recent (2007+) cpu from both major houses make this feasible.
09:18 wyrdmantis asciilifeform thank you
09:18 asciilifeform wyrdmantis: yw
09:20 * asciilifeform bbl
09:20 kakobrekla i dont see why the idiots dont take the leap and think that limited block size may actually give some small value to their beloved alts
09:26 wyrdmantis kakobrekla: only idiots thinks that there must be no limit. the issue is WHERE to put this limit
09:27 wyrdmantis i'm for not touching it at all
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09:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18637 @ 0.00070779 = 13.1911 BTC [+]
09:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 106610 @ 0.00070667 = 75.3381 BTC [-] {3}
10:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25235 @ 0.00071442 = 18.0284 BTC [+] {2}
10:10 BingoBoingo ty gernika and asciilifeform, corrected
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10:53 asciilifeform ;;isup nosuchlabs.com
10:53 gribble nosuchlabs.com is down
10:56 asciilifeform anybody on the other side of the atlantic wanna post a traceroute 195.211.154.159 ?
10:57 asciilifeform presently not able to reach it from anywhere in usa
10:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23600 @ 0.00070642 = 16.6715 BTC [-]
11:01 wyrdmantis asciilifeform: trying
11:02 wyrdmantis http://dpaste.com/0SJW2Q7 <<--- asciilifeform
11:02 assbot dpaste: 0SJW2Q7: by gabriele.dalroverezurla@gmail.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1EhBJgq )
11:03 asciilifeform ty wyrdmantis
11:05 mod6 <+asciilifeform> http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-August/000156.html << cool! i'll try to get mine signed here soon. today or tomorrow.
11:05 assbot [BTC-dev] orchestra+breath-of-life (UPDATED) ... ( http://bit.ly/1LtSNzo )
11:06 asciilifeform mod6: don't bother signing the tarballs, they are included for completeness. the thing to be signed is vpatches.
11:07 asciilifeform mod6: i recommend to follow the format nameofpatch.vpatch.mod6.sig
11:11 Jautenim stan http://pastebin.com/rqsfgNcY
11:11 assbot -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: GnuPG v1 hQEMA4iazE/I7/8TAQgAoUczBaxqX+ - Pastebin.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1PQ5V3p )
11:11 asciilifeform ty Jautenim !
11:13 mod6 <+asciilifeform> mod6: don't bother signing the tarballs, they are included for completeness. the thing to be signed is vpatches. << ok np.
11:14 mod6 <+asciilifeform> mod6: i recommend to follow the format nameofpatch.vpatch.mod6.sig << cool, sounds good.
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11:39 asciilifeform 14 April 2015: Cryptome Public Key forgery: 4096R/922D08D9 2015-03-24 Cryptome <cryptome@earthlink.net> Fingerprint=442E FB9B 6BD0 E069 86D4 E335 CD2F 43B5 922D 08D9 << l0l
11:42 BingoBoingo I went to the cigarette emporium at exactly the right time today. RJ Reynolds rep was there and offered for an additional $2 on top of the cigs I was buying one of these kits http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2427721,00.asp
11:42 assbot Vuse Digital Vapor Cigarettes Review & Rating | PCMag.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1hEnCaS )
11:42 asciilifeform pcmag !?
11:42 asciilifeform these have usb port, or what
11:43 asciilifeform (... and why?)
11:43 lobbes whenever I try to switch to e-cigs I just end up wanting real cigs
11:43 BingoBoingo Charger plugs into a usb port
11:43 asciilifeform ah
11:43 phf double as bitcoin wallets
11:43 BingoBoingo So far this one has adequate "burn" at the throat.
11:43 lobbes that is a very crucial property
11:44 * BingoBoingo just plans on using phone charger for this thing if I keep up with it.
11:44 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: don't know why i bothered, but https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3icef3/leaked_btc_foundation_digest_2013_complete_with
11:44 assbot Leaked Btc Foundation Digest (2013) - complete with confessed NSA stoolies, planned lies to public, etc. : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1hEnOqH )
11:45 BingoBoingo upvoted asciilifeform
11:45 BingoBoingo Rep could tell I was a loyal RJ Reynolds customer though when I merely asked for smokes and the clerk new which kind
11:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13850 @ 0.00070642 = 9.7839 BTC [-]
11:53 BingoBoingo Ecigs might be the only thing in 'Murica that's gotten less shitty since 2012
11:54 asciilifeform 'I apologise for my tardiness, but here is the 5.11BTC I promised for the CoinJoin effort.' << >> https://blockchain.info/address/1BDSZMaUvrbTjWsSgLA4XqYUK4dDzxREEV
11:54 assbot Bitcoin Address 1BDSZMaUvrbTjWsSgLA4XqYUK4dDzxREEV ... ( http://bit.ly/1hEozQv )
11:54 lobbes they have improved quite a bit. I remember when they were the size of markers. I had one once where the plastic mouthpiece would break at least once a month
11:55 asciilifeform https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3ibh95/coins_stolen_from_mycelium_wallet_how_do_you << lulzies
11:55 assbot Coins stolen from mycelium wallet. How do you think it might have happened? : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1hEoGM4 )
11:56 lobbes to make them a true replacement though, I think they'd need to simulate the ammonia and arsenic et al.
11:57 lobbes I think I crave that as much as the nicotine heh
11:58 BingoBoingo lobbes: My theory is they need to include more than the nicotine. There's actually a pretty potent MAOI in tobacco that persists in the smoke
11:59 BingoBoingo But maybe it is in this mix, only testing can confirm
11:59 phf main issue is that ecigs can never look this cool https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuZklVrHspM
11:59 assbot Gainsbourg, The initials BB - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1hbJpWx )
11:59 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: how is the 'juice' made ? i.e. clean mix of pesticidal-grade nicotine and flavourings, or is it actually squeezed from tobacco ?
12:01 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: I have to imagine extracted. Even pesticide grade nicotine is typically extracted and then isolated to my knowledge. This package says extracted from tobacco, but RJ Reynolds is not in my WoT to the extent I can take that on face value.
12:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56081 @ 0.00070489 = 39.5309 BTC [-] {5}
12:02 BingoBoingo I dunno if there is a cheaper way to get nicotine, even for pesticide than extracting from tobacco
12:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50577 @ 0.000704 = 35.6062 BTC [-] {3}
12:03 punkman BingoBoingo: what do you think about inhaling glycerine/propylene-glycol?
12:04 BingoBoingo A little soap can't be that bad for the lungs
12:04 phf asciilifeform: i think there's a range. there's an ecigar (not sure how it's called) place next door, which is favored by asians and blacks. actually pipes are large and made out of machined parts, but produce massive amounts of smoke. they source nicotine oil separately, and my impression is that you can get anything from dodgy chinese stuff with flavors like "coca cola bubble gum" to u.s. local hand extracted tobacco oil
12:06 deedbot- [Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] Can you please call me ? No. - http://www.contravex.com/2015/08/25/can-you-please-call-me-no/
12:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70907 @ 0.00071792 = 50.9056 BTC [+] {4}
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12:34 thestringpuller lol lobbes you crave the bad stuff of cigarettes lol?
12:35 thestringpuller i've always thought e-cigs can wane you off more easily than other things because you can cram so much nicotine in the juice
12:36 thestringpuller and the delivery to the lungs is much more efficient.
12:37 davout https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PTtX1HPWj4
12:37 assbot These Kids Made The Most Genius Basketball Trick Shot Video Of All-Time - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1U4tfjQ )
12:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27693 @ 0.00071992 = 19.9367 BTC [+]
12:48 mircea_popescu asciilifeform looking into it.
12:53 lobbes thestringpuller: lol. Well there's somethin' about the 'pure' nicotine that doesn't do it for me with e-cigs. Though BB's point about MAOI persisting in 'traditional' tobacco smoke perhaps makes more sense
12:54 mircea_popescu asciilifeform dunno, seems to be blackholed somehow. the server itself is fine. the looking into continues.
12:55 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: see log. traceroutes all fall into neverneverland
12:55 mircea_popescu well sure. from pretty much everywherre
12:55 asciilifeform aha. both sides of atlantic.
12:56 mircea_popescu http://dpaste.com/1YEMCVW << pretty early, too.
12:56 assbot dpaste: 1YEMCVW ... ( http://bit.ly/1U4vjIu )
12:56 mircea_popescu i mean... what's the connection between core11.hetzner.de and verizon-gni.net
12:56 asciilifeform none, it's the dropoff
12:56 asciilifeform the former - yours, the latter - mine
12:56 mircea_popescu course trilema is also a little sluggish
12:56 lobbes ;;later tell trinque is deedbot- handling phuctor now too? No worries either way; I just want to make sure our gears are turning in-sync
12:56 gribble The operation succeeded.
13:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53560 @ 0.00071421 = 38.2531 BTC [-] {5}
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13:20 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-08-2015#1251759 << incidentally, on a multicore system one could probably do some pretty spiffy kernel improvements to squeeze more juice for a purely node system.
13:20 assbot Logged on 25-08-2015 13:16:07; asciilifeform: wyrdmantis: on top of this, but not last, is the fact that context switches happen and your cached pages are regularly evicted to admit crud
13:20 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: best kernel improvement is to single-task the thing
13:20 mircea_popescu just the fact that "these pages don't get swapped" would prolly 3x the whole thing or some shit
13:21 mircea_popescu and who watches the ethercard ?
13:21 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: the nic knows how to dma, recall.
13:21 mircea_popescu i do not think there ever existed a "single task programmable computer" yet, in spite of convincing early ibm emulation. you either get signal processing or multi tasking
13:21 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: thing is, none of this is even worth thinking about until items like multiprocessorized sig validation are a thing
13:22 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: 'single task' in the sense of there not being a timeslicer
13:22 mircea_popescu kernel gets a timeslicer for itself anyway
13:22 asciilifeform yes, you still have interrupt handlers.
13:22 mircea_popescu so it can run "this timeslicing is no longer supporterd please run upgrade"
13:22 asciilifeform but it is perfectly feasible to run something like bitcoin as an embedded proggy.
13:23 mircea_popescu no argument. was just pounding the more theoretical side of things.
13:24 asciilifeform i worked it out. the only interrupt handlers one even needs, are a) timer b) nic frame ring buffer (tx, rx) full/empty.
13:24 asciilifeform (and, optionally, disk dma req. complete)
13:25 mircea_popescu anyway, our friends' apparently well intended conundrum is i think illustrative for the woe betid the modern man, asked to come up with "votes" on matters so far removed from his understanding.
13:25 asciilifeform could, theoretically, do this port even now, if one were to 'de-thread' the thing
13:26 mircea_popescu asciilifeform if the chinese are actually fucktarded enough to allow usg to not get its wish but nevertheless move the window in not getting it, we'll probably not only de-thread it but rewrite the whole sheband, and with a better pow algo at that.
13:26 asciilifeform lucky job that i have one. (and i'd be disappointed if only i)
13:26 mircea_popescu i'm curious if the size of that empire will allow the young and clueless mining derps be squashed by decade-old us foreign policy technology that their older, more politically central counterparts have long ago figured how to sink
13:27 mircea_popescu but, this discussion's yet out of its time.
13:27 asciilifeform parachute!
13:27 mircea_popescu mno.
13:27 mircea_popescu you ever seen the robotzi re parachutes ?
13:27 asciilifeform dun think so
13:28 mircea_popescu lemme dig it up, then you can watch it then i can say something pithy about it
13:28 mircea_popescu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0Ei81re1Ao
13:28 assbot RObotzi.S03.Ep3.Hobby - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1JWlSWP )
13:28 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: https://www.reddit.com/r/litecoin/comments/1qvgld/a_leak_in_the_bitcoin_reddit_shows_private << lulz
13:28 assbot A leak in the bitcoin reddit, shows private messages between bitcoin developers included litecoin head developer : litecoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1JWm0Wn )
13:29 mircea_popescu lol
13:29 asciilifeform apparently no one gave a shit then, either.
13:29 asciilifeform (spoiler: it's the paste from last night.)
13:30 mircea_popescu as you say, entomological interest.
13:31 asciilifeform much entomological sample, so scarce the ddt.
13:32 mircea_popescu so didja see it ?
13:32 asciilifeform see what?
13:33 mircea_popescu youtube above!
13:33 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-08-2015#1251766 << i recall this tidbit of shisdom peppered throughout the "conversation"
13:33 assbot Logged on 25-08-2015 13:20:26; kakobrekla: i dont see why the idiots dont take the leap and think that limited block size may actually give some small value to their beloved alts
13:34 kakobrekla ah ok then
13:34 mircea_popescu wyrdmantis no fucking way your name actually is "dalroverezurla"
13:34 kakobrekla so the 5 btc went to buy silk road stuff ?
13:35 mircea_popescu nfi. something with donations or w/e.
13:35 * asciilifeform still not very handy with spoken ro
13:35 mircea_popescu prolly went to sergent blackforce the 9th power or w/e
13:35 mircea_popescu asciilifeform ok, ima translate it in a second then
13:35 mircea_popescu these guys are impossible anyway
13:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52162 @ 0.00070977 = 37.023 BTC [-] {3}
13:39 mircea_popescu !rated wyrdmantis
13:39 assbot You have not rated wyrdmantis.
13:39 mircea_popescu !rate wyrdmantis 1 Good name.
13:39 assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/34b678e3f80d850e
13:39 jurov !t m f.mpif
13:39 assbot I don't give a shit who saw what and who did what or who did who.
13:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 15 @ 0.10097459 = 1.5146 BTC [-] {5}
13:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 108500 @ 0.00072101 = 78.2296 BTC [+] {3}
14:02 mircea_popescu asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2015/robotzi-s03-ep3-hobby/
14:02 assbot RObotzi S03 Ep3 : Hobby on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1JwSnc1 )
14:03 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: neato!
14:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18750 @ 0.00070977 = 13.3082 BTC [-]
14:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39507 @ 0.00070977 = 28.0409 BTC [-]
14:08 mircea_popescu dja see what i mean ?
14:08 asciilifeform aha.
14:08 mircea_popescu anyway, the whole as is down, being worked on, dulap should be back later.
14:08 asciilifeform spiffy
14:09 asciilifeform all of this reminds me of the famous sovderpitude re: phone tap installation
14:09 asciilifeform ~crackle~, ~hiss~, ..., ..., outage
14:10 mircea_popescu lol
14:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43950 @ 0.00070449 = 30.9623 BTC [-]
14:11 mircea_popescu progress is what happens when everything gradually goes to shit
14:11 mircea_popescu so whadja expect.
14:11 asciilifeform hogress.
14:12 asciilifeform ... and it appear that i'm ~still~ the only one keeping public therealbitcoin nodez ?? are folks waiting for the version string thing (imho pretty useless...) or what ?
14:13 jurov ;;later tell felipelalli btc-dev l2 keys are updated once per day, if your emails still aren't accepted, i'll check it it on weekend (currently abroad, no access)
14:13 gribble The operation succeeded.
14:15 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3icef3/leaked_btc_foundation_digest_2013_complete_with << they luvv it
14:15 assbot Leaked Btc Foundation Digest (2013) - complete with confessed NSA stoolies, planned lies to public, etc. : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1hEnOqH )
14:15 asciilifeform (anybody need a bucket of cockroaches for anything ??!11)
14:22 punkman so petertodd loaned John Dillon 5.1 btc, which he then sent to gmaxwell, to https://blockchain.info/address/1BDSZMaUvrbTjWsSgLA4XqYUK4dDzxREEV which is tagged "DPR seized coins"?
14:22 assbot Bitcoin Address 1BDSZMaUvrbTjWsSgLA4XqYUK4dDzxREEV ... ( http://bit.ly/1hEozQv )
14:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46100 @ 0.00070377 = 32.4438 BTC [-] {2}
14:25 punkman oh wrong link, 1FfmbHfnpaZjKFvyi1okTjJJusN455paPH was supposed to be gmaxwell's address
14:25 kakobrekla is that when sr was still up?
14:25 * mircea_popescu looks for the "as mp said a few months ago", doesn't find it, doesn't give a shit.
14:27 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-10-2013#337920
14:27 assbot Logged on 02-10-2013 15:46:43; ozbot: FBI raids alleged online drug market Silk Road, arrests owner
14:28 asciilifeform kakobrekla: yes
14:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 99900 @ 0.00070361 = 70.2906 BTC [-] {4}
14:28 kakobrekla so, someone bought some drugs.
14:28 punkman the 5.1099 btc was sent on 2013-11-16
14:29 kakobrekla wasnt it 2013-10-26
14:29 asciilifeform hm
14:29 asciilifeform even more peculiar.
14:30 punkman kakobrekla: no that's when petertodd sent the money to Dillon
14:30 jurov http://www.explo.yt/slush_on_xt.png a little kek
14:30 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ubqec7 )
14:30 kakobrekla https://blockchain.info/address/1BDSZMaUvrbTjWsSgLA4XqYUK4dDzxREEV this address i thin kwas under dprs control
14:30 assbot Bitcoin Address 1BDSZMaUvrbTjWsSgLA4XqYUK4dDzxREEV ... ( http://bit.ly/1hEozQv )
14:30 kakobrekla https://blockchain.info/address/1FfmbHfnpaZjKFvyi1okTjJJusN455paPH this one is under usms
14:30 assbot Bitcoin Address 1FfmbHfnpaZjKFvyi1okTjJJusN455paPH ... ( http://bit.ly/1UbqhES )
14:30 punkman so john dillon wasn't a spook, was dpr?
14:31 kakobrekla deposited to sr wallet
14:31 kakobrekla id say
14:31 kakobrekla dunno
14:31 kakobrekla yes, after bust .
14:33 mircea_popescu jurov guy's gone full retard.
14:33 mircea_popescu !rated slush
14:33 assbot You rated user slush on 20-Aug-2015, with a rating of -10, and supplied these additional notes: fuckwit.
14:34 mircea_popescu but lol @gogulski
14:34 mircea_popescu the only shit that's bad is still in your head, yo.
14:34 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: funnily enough, i encountered gogulski entirely by chance, elsewhere:
14:34 mircea_popescu that's what not agreeing with me usually means. that you got some horse droppings in a portion of your brain.
14:35 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: here >> http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1352 << he bought my 'dukedom'
14:35 assbot Loper OS » Dukedom for Sale. ... ( http://bit.ly/1JwU6Oz )
14:35 mircea_popescu good for him
14:36 * asciilifeform does not know anything else about herr gogulski, other than the incident where he publicly burned his u.s. passport and formally renounced citizenship
14:37 mircea_popescu there's an immense pile of people who "don't agree with mp" as if that's some sort of vanity prop.
14:37 mircea_popescu which... whatevs. growing up happens to the best of 'em.
14:40 * asciilifeform was contemplating the apparent fact that: whatever other things the rogue's gallery of stoolies, shills, miscellaneous usg vermin got in reward for their collaboration, coin does not appear to be among them. hence there is likely massive enthusiasm for anything that smacks of destroying or at least defiling bitcoin, on grounds of sheer envy
14:40 asciilifeform 'perhaps ~now~ we get a chance'
14:48 asciilifeform https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3icef3/leaked_btc_foundation_digest_2013_complete_with/cufbrx6 << cockroach squirms
14:48 assbot petertodd comments on Leaked Btc Foundation Digest (2013) - complete with confessed NSA stoolies, planned lies to public, etc. ... ( http://bit.ly/1UbtuUK )
14:48 punkman https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=279249.msg3009444#msg3009444 << addresses used by jdillon to donate 10btc to coinjoin fund https://blockchain.info/tx/1332f6d0ba9b7101edab1f183d36a09d6036561cf36de1326a68523107b3e7b2
14:48 assbot CoinJoin: Bitcoin privacy for the real world ... ( http://bit.ly/1UbtxA8 )
14:48 assbot Bitcoin Transaction 1332f6d0ba9b7101edab1f183d36a09d6036561cf36de1326a68523107b3e7b2 ... ( http://bit.ly/1UbtxQo )
14:53 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: re: workfunctions, there was once some theoretical work concerning 'non-outsourceable puzzles', i.e. mathematical magic preventing the formation of pools by allowing any pool participant to silently and untraceably claim the entire block reward. but i cannot recall if this went anywhere other than academiwankery.
14:54 asciilifeform (naturally, not applicable to extant bitcoin.)
14:57 mircea_popescu it was discussed in bitcoin too.
14:57 mircea_popescu predictably, pool ops do not like the idea at all.
14:57 mircea_popescu nevertheless, it's plenty applicable, if one talks forks.
14:58 mircea_popescu but by the time one talks forks to that level, some sort of much different bitcoin would be on the table anyway. with ring signatures and various other items.
15:02 mircea_popescu " whatever other things the rogue's gallery of stoolies, shills, miscellaneous usg vermin got in reward for their collaboration, coin does not appear to be among them" <<< ahahahaha. fucking DOH. not even usg is this fucking stupid. albeit this is not deliberately, just, the low level idiots have no access to any btc and the high level doods know better. but for that matter : usg employees don't even get fiat.
15:02 mircea_popescu people in the camp work for a) promises of future and b) mortgage-and-meal tickets.
15:02 mircea_popescu what bitcoin.
15:03 mircea_popescu you think the fucktards writing "gawker" and all its clones are getting paid ? thjey aren't. they do it because i won't take them to work for qntra, and they imagine that if they persevere they can somehow prevail without needing to actually do the hard work.
15:03 mircea_popescu the same's true throughout.
15:06 asciilifeform even pig is sometimes permitted to eat truffle
15:06 asciilifeform but not often.
15:08 asciilifeform 'usg employees don't even get fiat' << this is true in a strictly technical sense. but in fact senior nomenklatura ('ses' and up, but also grey-usg folk like uni professors) bring in very decent dough via 'contracting' and pseudo-industrial gigs.
15:10 mircea_popescu how many monets' worth ?
15:10 mircea_popescu this is the point easily missed. "oh, bitcoin is a 5 bn dollar system". no it's fucking not lol.
15:10 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: easily into the multiple millimonets, for a typical case
15:11 mircea_popescu you can buy about 100k and it stays at 5bn
15:11 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: but for senior brass, whole monets
15:11 mircea_popescu once you buy 1bn, it's suddenly a 50 trillion system
15:11 mircea_popescu same is true of monets, but the exponential's going the other way
15:11 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: somehow no one is foolish enough to make the mistake in, e.g., aluminum market
15:12 * asciilifeform was using 'millimonet' as an approximate unit, 4 * 10^4 usd.
15:12 funkenstein_ http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-08-2015#1251979 <-- a test implementation exists called "spreadcoin"
15:12 assbot Logged on 25-08-2015 18:53:47; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re: workfunctions, there was once some theoretical work concerning 'non-outsourceable puzzles', i.e. mathematical magic preventing the formation of pools by allowing any pool participant to silently and untraceably claim the entire block reward. but i cannot recall if this went anywhere other than academiwankery.
15:13 asciilifeform 'spreading works!!111!!!11'
15:14 asciilifeform funkenstein_: appears to be entirely dead
15:15 asciilifeform funkenstein_: so dead that not even a copy of the paper can be turned up.
15:16 asciilifeform or, hm, maybe not
15:16 asciilifeform http://www.spreadcoin.info/downloads/SpreadCoin-WhitePaper.pdf
15:16 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1NH9dqx )
15:16 asciilifeform ^http://dpaste.com/2CMFP15
15:19 asciilifeform 'In SpreadCoin mining is organized in such way that miner must know the following things: 1. Private key corresponding to the coinbase transaction. 2. Whole block, not only its header. ... Pool may detect and ban cheating miners. However, many miners may still prefer to cheat so that pool will be completely unusable for honest miners.'
15:19 * asciilifeform not convinced that this works as described
15:22 mircea_popescu asciilifeform funnily, the "corner silver market" was the opposite mistake. ie, "we'll make thius a 500 bn system for no reason"
15:22 mircea_popescu odd how selective stupidity is. it'll only do its stupid thing where it doesn';t stand a chance, but will avoid where it'd work.
15:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10102 @ 0.00070449 = 7.1168 BTC [+]
15:29 punkman https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=6430 interesting
15:29 assbot ECDSA Signatures allow recovery of the public key ... ( http://bit.ly/1NHayNO )
15:30 punkman (linked from spreadcoin text)
15:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53750 @ 0.00070323 = 37.7986 BTC [-] {3}
15:34 mircea_popescu well yes ?
15:35 mircea_popescu check out gavin from 2011 : "What's the extra CPU cost for recovering the public key? Current bottleneck for bitcoin transaction processing is the CPU cost of ECDSA signature verification, not disk space or bandwidth, so saving bytes at the expense of more CPU is not the right thing to do."
15:37 mircea_popescu it's not like he doesn't KNOW what he's doing oir anything.
15:39 punkman https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=186264
15:39 assbot Improving the trustworthyness of PGP keys with Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1NHbJNh )
15:39 punkman "If you are part of the PGP strong set or your PGP key is on bitcoin-otc you now have a timestamp. Take your PGP fingerprint and convert that into a Bitcoin address and you'll find a 1 satoshi payment to it"
15:44 punkman https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=189792.msg1968200#msg1968200
15:44 assbot Bitcoin Blocksize Problem Video ... ( http://bit.ly/1NHco1l )
15:57 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: and now we know why he made no attempt to parallelize, also.
15:59 BingoBoingo ;;later tell fluffypony You know of any working OpenBSD monero builds?
15:59 gribble The operation succeeded.
16:00 fluffypony BingoBoingo: binaries or building from source?
16:00 BingoBoingo fluffypony: Building from source
16:01 fluffypony head should build if you "make release-static" and have the depsa
16:01 fluffypony *deps
16:01 fluffypony but I haven't checked the last few commits on BSD, so it's entirely possible we broke something
16:02 BingoBoingo Ah, I think I was missing rt
16:04 ben_vulpes marvel of marvels, still leaking IP.
16:13 mircea_popescu asciilifeform some of us :)
16:14 mircea_popescu incidentally, the hash-and-nonce approach to pow originally proposed is quite obviously hackery.
16:15 mircea_popescu a bitcoin purified of ec bullcrap could do some pretty splendid factorisation-based pow.
16:15 asciilifeform ^
16:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 256700 @ 0.00070277 = 180.4011 BTC [-] {5}
16:17 asciilifeform ;;isup nosuchlabs.com
16:17 gribble nosuchlabs.com is up
16:18 punkman mircea_popescu: how's the hash pow related to ec?
16:24 mircea_popescu in being stupid.
16:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28502 @ 0.00070347 = 20.0503 BTC [+]
16:27 mircea_popescu if you think about it, unless you have a nvidia farm you're trying to find a use for, your pow has no business being a recursive hash and shouldreally be a lot more like what phuctor's doing
16:27 mircea_popescu that obviously reduces to a ram farm, but at least ram is a degree of magnitude more commodised than gpus.
16:28 mircea_popescu in general, as it has been correctly observed and oft repeated, the simpler the gun, the worse for the state.
16:28 asciilifeform my only misgiving about this is if you stop and think who's been baking factoratrons for the past 20 yrs.
16:28 asciilifeform to them, the spoils ?
16:29 asciilifeform they perhaps were not quite good enough for pgp, but for this - perfect
16:30 BingoBoingo !up auxon
16:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 102800 @ 0.00070164 = 72.1286 BTC [-] {5}
16:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30330 @ 0.00070132 = 21.271 BTC [-]
16:37 punkman http://dpaste.com/1WPD2NM some excerpts from jdillon leak and bonus links
16:37 assbot dpaste: 1WPD2NM ... ( http://bit.ly/1JXi5Zc )
16:46 funkenstein_ i'm surprise nobody has an RSA coin out yet
16:47 asciilifeform funkenstein_: possibly for the reason i mentioned
16:47 funkenstein_ factoratrons?
16:48 asciilifeform aha.
16:50 funkenstein_ i meant address, tx signing, DSA not POW
16:50 asciilifeform 'too heavy'
16:51 asciilifeform is the usual excuse.
16:51 asciilifeform !s rsacoin
16:51 assbot 0 results for 'rsacoin' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=rsacoin
16:51 asciilifeform hm
16:51 asciilifeform quite sure that we discussed it.
16:53 funkenstein_ sounds familiar
16:53 funkenstein_ signature verification is more intensive than modinv stuff with ecdsa?
16:54 funkenstein_ it seems thats the bottleneck
16:54 asciilifeform that wasn't the concern
16:54 funkenstein_ pubkeys are big i guess
16:54 asciilifeform relatively.
16:55 funkenstein_ addresses are hashes, that's not a problem
16:56 mircea_popescu !up auxon
16:56 mircea_popescu asciilifeform myeah
16:57 mircea_popescu it is heavy.
16:57 funkenstein_ it's also hard to make good rsa privkeys with dice
16:58 asciilifeform funkenstein_: also hard with stone axe, mammoth teeth, bear skin.
16:58 funkenstein_ lol
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17:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71803 @ 0.00070097 = 50.3317 BTC [-] {4}
17:19 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
17:19 gribble Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 224.11, Best ask: 224.39, Bid-ask spread: 0.28000, Last trade: 224.42, 24 hour volume: 75242.0072563, 24 hour low: 196.6, 24 hour high: 228.77, 24 hour vwap: None
17:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69941 @ 0.00069936 = 48.9139 BTC [-] {6}
17:26 punkman http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/25/world/europe/migrants-push-toward-hungary-as-a-border-fence-rises.html?_r=0
17:26 assbot Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1KLcwrt )
17:28 punkman from Syria, to Kos and Lesvos, to the promised land of Germany and Sweden
17:29 asciilifeform n0rd1c syst3m!!
17:30 punkman http://money.cnn.com/2015/07/15/investing/bank-of-america-branches-layoffs/
17:30 assbot Hundreds of Bank of America branches are disappearing - Jul. 15, 2015 ... ( http://bit.ly/1KLcZty )
17:30 punkman http://money.cnn.com/2015/08/24/investing/stocks-markets-selloff-circuit-breakers-1200-times/index.html
17:30 assbot Trading was halted 1,200 times Monday - Aug. 24, 2015 ... ( http://bit.ly/1KLd6Fv )
17:31 asciilifeform punkman: see also, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=08-07-2015#1193376
17:31 assbot Logged on 08-07-2015 17:08:58; mircea_popescu: mod6 "our free market is this thing you can only buy!!1"
17:32 asciilifeform http://money.cnn.com/2015/08/21/technology/ashley-madison-users-extorted/index.html?iid=ob_article_footer&iid=obnetwork << l0l, from same fishwrap
17:32 assbot Ashley Madison users now facing extortion - Aug. 21, 2015 ... ( http://bit.ly/1KLdjII )
17:33 asciilifeform http://money.cnn.com/2015/08/19/news/niagara-painting-sale-blocked-uk/index.html?iid=ob_article_footer&iid=obnetwork << and re: the art thing
17:33 assbot Buyer pays over $200,000 for painting, but can't take it home - Aug. 19, 2015 ... ( http://bit.ly/1KLdnID )
17:33 * trinque cranks the R.E.M., kicks back
17:33 asciilifeform 'The government hopes that by blocking the painting from export there will be time for a new, serious buyer to come forward.'
17:33 asciilifeform soviet win.
17:34 mod6 asciilifeform: I see you attached the sigs for the vpatch files, and included the tarballs in your orchestra+breath-of-life (UPDATED) email. I think it'd like to attach the raw .vpatch files as well as the .sigs for completeness. Anything against this other than it's a bit redundant since you already posted the tarballs of the .vpatches?
17:34 mod6 s/it'd/i'd/
17:34 asciilifeform mod6: redundant, imho
17:34 asciilifeform mod6: once 'v' is live, it can be retrofitted to the turdatron directly
17:35 mod6 alright, i'll leave them off, and maybe just leave a linkback in the body to your message.
17:35 mod6 that way a person can find the tarballs, etc.
17:39 mircea_popescu punkman fascinatingly, it's china's fault!
17:40 mircea_popescu lol @the uk.
17:40 mircea_popescu maybe the guy should rape some teenagers ? apparently it's how you get shit done in the queen's realms.
17:41 asciilifeform neh that's reserved for authorized race-replacerz
17:41 mircea_popescu honestly if it was mine i'd burn it.
17:41 mircea_popescu send the "minister of culture" the ash.
17:42 asciilifeform for bonus points, buy that little stove in ro they used earlier
17:42 asciilifeform to burn it in
17:42 mircea_popescu yeah srsly.
17:42 mircea_popescu tho ro govt would perhaps forbid its export :D
17:42 asciilifeform l0l!!
17:42 asciilifeform wonder what the ashes are worth
17:42 asciilifeform betcha they're at least mildly authenticable.
17:42 mircea_popescu same as the painting, really.
17:43 mircea_popescu "helps you better understand the role of mp in shaping the 21st century"
17:43 asciilifeform !b 4
17:43 assbot Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/17D9G5M.txt )
17:44 mod6 oh i just realized something.
17:45 mod6 these sigs that you posted won't verify out-of-the box, not that i've tried. but the detached sig must match the file name with the exception of the trailing .sig on the end.
17:45 asciilifeform mod6: nope.
17:45 asciilifeform mod6: give gpg both args
17:45 mod6 so if we do <patchname>.<wotGuy>.sig then will fail
17:45 asciilifeform mod6: first payload, then sig
17:45 mod6 oh aight, lemme see here...
17:46 asciilifeform (this is also done from inside 'v'. but, importantly, it also works - must work - manually.)
17:48 mod6 ok, yah, works. just needed to do `gpg --verify <sigfile> <origfile>`
17:48 asciilifeform aha i got it backwards
17:48 asciilifeform but yes, works
17:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 77050 @ 0.00069836 = 53.8086 BTC [-]
17:51 mod6 I'm about to try to fry up some of these cheese & potato pierogies .. any tips ? just fry 'em until golden brown ?
17:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36000 @ 0.00069805 = 25.1298 BTC [-]
17:53 mod6 alright, i'll just wing-it
18:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29773 @ 0.00069804 = 20.7827 BTC [-] {2}
18:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3627 @ 0.00069781 = 2.531 BTC [-]
18:08 phf mod6: you want to cook them in water for a bit first, and then fry them once they are cooked
18:09 mats wat
18:10 mats is it common to do that?
18:12 phf i thought that's a standard way of cooking pierogies on account of thicker dough, you want to stuff inside to get fully cooked
18:12 phf as opposed to say, dumplings
18:15 thestringpuller https://twitter.com/bitfinex/status/636258874606133248 >> We are experiencing data corruption issues and will be offline until corrected. Sorry for the inconvenience.
18:15 mats ive tried that before and it ruined them
18:15 asciilifeform lol shitfinex
18:15 phf mats: you probably overcooked them so they started falling apart
18:17 mircea_popescu mats you need one of those wire whisks. get the water to boiling, lower them into the water, give them ~90 seconds. take out, let them drip fully, then deepfry.
18:17 mircea_popescu in hot oil.
18:17 mircea_popescu (dry-deepfry is so fucking retarded i have nfi why anyone even does it tbh)
18:18 mats hm, ok
18:18 mircea_popescu asciilifeform gotta say something to salvage the pretense.
18:18 mircea_popescu broomstick fires first, speaks after, it's a land of magical puffery over there.
18:19 mircea_popescu and i guarantee you they'll continue to have all the "market share" they had before : 0 actual users, a few confused people with their quarter btc and otherwise, the whole might and noise of the usg.
18:21 phf or mp way, which is a lot more deliberate then mine, because i only ever fry leftover dumplings that were previously cooked. in any case you want the insides to get cooked too, so if you're deep frying them straight you want to cook insides first, then wrap in own dough, then fry the result
18:26 mircea_popescu now i want blinyi
18:28 Adlai http://dpaste.com/0AKD3VC
18:28 assbot dpaste: 0AKD3VC ... ( http://bit.ly/1KLkh0D )
18:28 Adlai deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/0AKD3VC.txt
18:28 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1KLkjph )
18:28 deedbot- accepted: 1
18:29 * Adlai assures the concerned members of the audience that this is not from shitfinex... anybody who's written exchange APIs will probably recognize this
18:31 punkman Adlai: what's that
18:33 Adlai if you had to ask, someday you'll know
18:34 mircea_popescu how to bother people, entry #985468546 : pronounce adult as "a dolt". insist.
18:34 mod6 i got these ones from a lady from .ua at the farmers makert. instructions on the top said "don't cook in water", don't cook if frozen. so I let 'em thaw overnight. then just put 'em in a pan with a bit of cooking oil. simmered 'em until golden. tasted great to me!
18:35 mod6 but maybe im pierogie heathen
18:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23600 @ 0.00070235 = 16.5755 BTC [+]
18:39 punkman I wonder, do they sell bottles of "cooking oil" in US supermarkets? (where you have to read the fine print to figure out what it's made of)
18:43 mod6 i can go look. this is 'vegetable oil'
18:44 mod6 Ingrediant: SOYBEAN OIL
18:52 mircea_popescu iirc it was mostly rapeseed
18:52 mircea_popescu (yes it's an actual plant)
18:54 Adlai entry #985468547 : abbreviate 'grownups' as 'groans'
18:55 mod6 heh 'rapeseed'
18:56 mod6 ahh yah, canola, saw fields upon fields of this driving through manatoba
18:57 shinohai rapeseed is used as a filler in cheap peanut butter in us groceries
18:59 mod6 "food"
18:59 punkman protip: if your peanut butter doesn't develop a layer of oil at the top, it probably has hydrogenated vegetable oil in it
19:00 punkman same with tahini
19:00 shinohai smuckers makes yummy natural pb
19:01 mod6 but it also makes this abortion: http://www.smuckers.com/products/peanut-butter/goober-pb-j/goober-grape-38
19:01 assbot Goober Grape PB & J - Peanut Butter - Smucker's ... ( http://bit.ly/1KLpDsw )
19:02 punkman not that hard to make at home
19:02 mod6 everytime i see that stuff on the shelf, i think, "this shit is a metephor for the whole goddamn thing."
19:06 shinohai girls go fer goober grape
19:10 mod6 heheh
19:21 mod6 http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-August/000158.html
19:21 assbot [BTC-dev] orchestra+breath-of-life (UPDATED) ... ( http://bit.ly/1KLszWf )
19:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00069781 = 3.838 BTC [-] {2}
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19:44 mats https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CEB0aYjVIAI88Wx.jpg genius
19:44 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1KLviig )
19:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24500 @ 0.00069781 = 17.0963 BTC [-]
19:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49740 @ 0.00070235 = 34.9349 BTC [+]
19:55 * Adlai seconds http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=25-05-2015#1144802 until, byte-for-byte, human commentary outweighs assbot spammentary
19:55 assbot Logged on 25-05-2015 19:24:43; ascii_modem: pure noise imho
19:56 Adlai this is merely a matter of dynamic minimum-announced-trade-size
19:57 Adlai anybody who really cares that much should be in -trades or have their own feed
20:00 mod6 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-05-2015#1144946
20:00 assbot Logged on 25-05-2015 23:34:32; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-05-2015#1144802 << apparently this is not obvious, but the principal reason i'm here is that convenient packaging of mpex tickers.
20:11 BingoBoingo !up sueastside
20:22 BingoBoingo https://slimgur.com/images/2015/08/25/1e1a509a242738a88c28abc6d300165a.jpg
20:22 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1PxgMhY )
20:25 BingoBoingo A toddler was shot and killed today, but this is the local news http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metro/tension-escalates-in-a-st-charles-county-subdivision-after-a/article_f4803317-4ee7-5b4c-807f-4c9d9472d15b.html
20:25 assbot Tension escalates in a St. Charles County subdivision after a new neighbor moves in : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1Pxh34h )
20:26 BingoBoingo “This is a mess,” said Jana Chamblee, who lives with her husband, Don, and their three children. “This is the biggest mess I’ve had in my life.” ... Chamblee and others on the block point to a house behind them, where Maritha Hunter-Butler has lived since May 9. She moved in with her three sons, a female partner and their four dogs. The neighbors say the dogs bark at all hours of the night, visitors constantly come and g
20:26 BingoBoingo o and Hunter-Butler has made threatening remarks.
20:34 trinque BingoBoingo: sounds a bit like this news I'm reading of the "market rally" "disintegrating".
20:35 trinque http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/08/25/us-markets-stocks-usa-idUSKCN0QU13F20150825
20:35 assbot Wall Street's rally goes up in smoke, indexes end lower| Reuters ... ( http://bit.ly/1MLQYzp )
20:35 trinque it's definitely not a crash.
20:35 trinque and that toddler wasn't killed.
20:36 trinque because we can just declare things... and what's reality anyway?
20:36 BingoBoingo You have to hit something for it to be a crash. If your car goes off the road and sink into the mud, but it stopped because of mud and not impact it wasn't a crash.
20:36 trinque heh, I'll grant that
20:37 BingoBoingo All of that QE was mud.
20:40 trinque heh, the QE was a mudslide that lifted the car up, carried it along in the same direction for a bit
20:41 trinque could toss it in a ditch, could engulf it and continue on, who knows!
20:42 BingoBoingo I like to think of QE as the bog the car was driven into because OMG a skunk. To avoid the pain of a honest crash the doors became embeded too deep to allow exit from the vehicle
20:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24200 @ 0.00070293 = 17.0109 BTC [+] {3}
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21:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36276 @ 0.00069767 = 25.3087 BTC [-] {3}
21:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15274 @ 0.00069723 = 10.6495 BTC [-]
21:34 scoopButt http://qntra.net/2015/08/british-cultural-capital-controls-interfere-with-commerce/
21:34 assbot British 'Cultural' Capital Controls Interfere With Commerce | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1hFbtmc )
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21:52 mats i climbed out of a sun roof after a wreck once
21:54 mats the driver hadn't turned off the dance music yet and it felt like i was in a B rated movie
21:54 mats he was high and literally said, "i'm not going to crash the car, man" five seconds before he went off the road
21:54 trinque heh
21:55 trinque "I'm go...I'm good man"
21:55 trinque never a clearer sign the guy isn't
21:57 Adlai nah, actually leaving the lane is clearer
21:58 Adlai and unfortunately (from the perspective of "fail earlier oftener louder faster stronger") usually just results in returning to the lane
22:02 * BingoBoingo prefers those nice well paved country roads that don't have marked "lanes" (because why mark up the tarmac when tractors obliviate much things?)
22:07 thestringpuller ;;seen smickles
22:07 gribble smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 year, 10 weeks, 6 days, 21 hours, 48 minutes, and 50 seconds ago: <smickles> easily a few more bil in things like BPOs and BPCs
22:07 thestringpuller :(
22:08 BingoBoingo !gettrust smickles
22:08 assbot Trust relationship from user BingoBoingo to user smickles: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 7 via 7 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=BingoBoingo&to=smickles | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/smickles/
22:19 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all
22:19 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 225.18, vol: 37690.07736915 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 223.279, vol: 15466.33828 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 225.52, vol: 49475.33784738 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 227.6, vol: 0.19 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 224.063199, vol: 49788.19410000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 224.49439, vol: 322.23035795 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 244.436, vol: 208.98435776 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
22:19 BingoBoingo ;;more
22:19 gribble 224.759084069
22:23 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-08-2015#1252205 << l0l, i always imagined mircea_popescu had a wooden panel full of analogue gauges for mpex, a ship's telegraph for changing course, and a speaking horn for dictating more complex orders
22:23 assbot Logged on 26-08-2015 00:00:08; assbot: Logged on 25-05-2015 23:34:32; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-05-2015#1144802 << apparently this is not obvious, but the principal reason i'm here is that convenient packaging of mpex tickers.
22:29 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> ... << l0l, i always imagined mircea_popescu had a wooden panel full of analogue gauges for mpex, a ship's telegraph for changing course, and a speaking horn for dictating more complex orders << I imagine at times even the ships captain wants to step away from the bridge for a bit of sodomy without being completely cut off
22:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29850 @ 0.0007032 = 20.9905 BTC [+] {3}
22:30 asciilifeform sooo i was out walking by the uni, and found a thumb drive
22:30 * BingoBoingo was surptised when joining #bitcoin-asset-trades just how much stuf didn't make the cut for arriving here
22:30 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Interesting trap in thumbdrive?
22:30 asciilifeform full of 'business school' homework from unpronounceably-named chinese exchange students
22:30 BingoBoingo lol
22:30 asciilifeform they were assigned 'digital currencies'
22:31 asciilifeform and the required reading dir is full of 'whitepapers' concerning 1990s-style centralized shitpal-esque 'coins'
22:31 thestringpuller asciilifeform: i'ma let you finished but what level of hotness are the sorority girls at said uni?
22:32 asciilifeform some chick cries now for lacking her powerpointz
22:32 asciilifeform thestringpuller: all levels
22:32 asciilifeform thestringpuller: but very commonly they (at least the native ones) have 'agricultural face'
22:32 asciilifeform or whatever it is called here
22:32 mod6 haha
22:32 thestringpuller diversity at its finest.
22:32 thestringpuller mod6 def knows the type.
22:33 asciilifeform it's not even an ethnicity, but more of a state of mind
22:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54639 @ 0.0007004 = 38.2692 BTC [-] {5}
22:51 gernika BingoBoingo: something's wrong with this sentence I think: "Vaizey instead want to part the buyer and his purchase to part in a sale as has happened previously when 'cultural' export bans have been applied to artifacts."
22:52 BingoBoingo gernika: thanks, fixed
22:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3956 @ 0.00070347 = 2.7829 BTC [+]
22:56 BingoBoingo http://s17.postimg.org/pz3aowt7z/11705365_1460274277632496_7058363122198226781_n.jpg
22:56 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Lzwtar )
22:57 Adlai Logged on 26-08-2015 02:57:57; Adlai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-08-2015#1252204 << apparently this is not obvious, but the principle reason i'm here is that convenient nucleation in the superheated fluid of trollcoin
22:57 assbot Logged on 26-08-2015 00:00:08; mod6: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-05-2015#1144946
22:58 Adlai fuck
22:58 Adlai !down Adlai
22:59 trinque ^lol
23:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13050 @ 0.00070609 = 9.2145 BTC [+] {3}
23:08 BingoBoingo Ah and here's assbot feed's best part. Keeps the conversation going.
23:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00070367 = 4.4331 BTC [-]
23:18 * BingoBoingo remembers MPOE under 2 not that long ago
23:19 BingoBoingo Or was it 3
23:20 mod6 low was 0.00014430 on mar. 23rd according to btcalpha
23:21 BingoBoingo ah
23:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.0007064 = 6.2163 BTC [+]
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