#trilema | 2014-11-03

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32200 @ 0.00073341 = 23.6158 BTC [-] {2}

00:19

XC6SXL150

00:20

aha

00:29

Old mining conversation: http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-dev/logs/2012/02/10#l1328912036

00:29

BitcoinStats

00:30

snore.

00:31

Well, old. From the days where scrypt was to many the anti-GPU pill, and delivered BTC ASIC were about a year away

00:31

<mircea_popescu> decimation kinda what we're trying recently. << oh hey we're paying people nao? who's this "we" and hey jurov what's the story on an addy, eh?

00:32

^^^

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mircea_popescu: http://38.media.tumblr.com/2071218dd794fc678ba3272537ecd010/tumblr_n7speit5Op1ra163eo4_r1_250.gif << lol! reminiscent of your grenade proposal

00:33

asciilifeform's looking for his rocket

00:34

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asciilifeform doubts we have anything larger than a toy rocket here in this box

00:34

anyone who wants to ride that - is welcome to...

00:34

*pfhsheeeeew*

00:34

ah, estes.

00:35

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ben_vulpes was working on the big engine handling license for a bit

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asciilifeform reads the logs and finds the very pertinent unix-on-z80 atrocity

00:36

yes, no shortage of folks willing to ride toy rocket.

00:36

interesting thing about toy rockets

00:36

build your own exotica, be exempt from licensensing.

00:36

derp

00:37

licensing*

00:37

buy exotica via mail order - must have license for such.

00:37

afaik in usa one can even fly an airplane, below (100? kg) in mass, without license

00:37

this is similar to the canadian firearms protocol, where when during the process of acquisition they ask one to

00:38

"please list all people with whom you cohabitated or were in a relationship for the last two years so that we can ask them if you're going to go shoot them"

00:38

nevermind that the sane person will never answer that question in a way useful to the questioner.

00:41

ben_vulpes: speaking of rockets and small arms, familiar with american invention, 'gyrojet' ?

00:42

tiny rocket, ejected from what amounts to a flare pistol - goes through, e.g., a truck

00:51

vaguely

00:51

more interested in mems systems

00:51

<- hipster

00:51

eh this was a vietnam-era mechanical thing.

00:51

micro elecro mechanical systems systems

00:52

i want mems-controlled aero surfaces in my projectiles

00:52

i am a child of my time

00:52

there's a 'golden toilet' vendor claiming to be churning out the proverbial 'bullet that goes around corners' on precisely this principle

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asciilifeform not involved with this

00:54

i find it hard to believe that corners can be turned with the control forces effected by mems systems

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depends on radius of turn

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(picture a 'question mark' shape. easy to keep turn radius wide if there is room)

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corners attractive to purchasers in urban combat are unrealistic

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trajectory tweaks for ballistics or sniper action, though...

01:09

[MPEX] [S.NSA] 20000 @ 0.00011 = 2.2 BTC [+]

01:11

Level 2: 0 via 1 connections lol da fuck does that work

01:11

<fluffypony> Beauty << looking for beauty in la ? what, like on the street ?! you want beauty, go to burbank.

01:15

.status

01:15

BingoBoingo: 2 pending deeds | Last bundle 2 hours and 31 minutes ago

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<ben_vulpes> nevermind that the sane person will never answer that question in a way useful to the questioner. << yeah but then if they get in an altercation with that person later not answering usefully usually makes the difference between a dismissed case and a felony convicion.

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<asciilifeform> ben_vulpes: speaking of rockets and small arms, familiar with american invention, 'gyrojet' ? <<< isn't this really that french invention ? the rocket powered grenade that regularly gets stopped in branches etc and kills the shooter ?

01:17

Vexual +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0

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02:09

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22350 @ 0.00071871 = 16.0632 BTC [-]

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02:30

http://trilema.com/2014/waroflife-swol-october-2014-statement-closing/

02:30

WarOfLife (S.WOL), October 2014 Statement (closing) pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

02:34

another one bites the dust

02:35

Fall drama season arrives!

02:35

First atc, then X-BT, nao WoL

02:38

oh first atc?

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coulda sworn something died before that

02:38

Prolly was something forgettable

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clearly nothing of import

02:47

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00072451 = 9.1288 BTC [+]

02:52

well these'd be the clean closures

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there's all the moolah mcxnow breakoutgaming moopay etc blowups

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there's all the unannounced ethereum etc deaths,

02:54

piles of stuff.

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http://qntra.net/2014/11/disney-patents-piracy-free-search-engine/ << Done

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Disney Patents "Piracy Free" Search Engine | Qntra.net

03:14

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.00073602 = 7.8018 BTC [+]

03:18

http://qntra.net/2014/11/war-of-life-closing/

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War of Life Closing | Qntra.net

03:23

what a scam

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the worst.

03:24

reskin as nigs vs whites

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!t s.wol mp

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It says some pelt-wearin' trapper, some stinkin' bean-suckin' possum skinner, he's gonna collect that reward money.

03:24

!t mp s.wol

03:24

[MPEX:S.WOL] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / / ( shares, BTC), 30D: 0.000086 / 0.000086 / 0.000086 (2 shares, 0.00 BTC)

03:24

ouchies for whoever bought at 8600

03:25

;;later tell hanbot you've been awarded some s.qntr shares for your contributions to qntra as per http://trilema.com/2014/qntra-sqntr-october-2014-statement/ talk to jurov

03:25

Qntra (S.QNTR) October 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

03:25

The operation succeeded.

03:25

;;later tell devthedev you've been awarded some s.qntr shares for your contributions to qntra as per http://trilema.com/2014/qntra-sqntr-october-2014-statement/ talk to jurov

03:25

Qntra (S.QNTR) October 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

03:25

The operation succeeded.

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thestringpuller you've been awarded some s.qntr shares for your contributions to qntra as per http://trilema.com/2014/qntra-sqntr-october-2014-statement/ talk to jurov

03:25

Qntra (S.QNTR) October 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

03:25

;;later tell princessnell you've been awarded some s.qntr shares for your contributions to qntra as per http://trilema.com/2014/qntra-sqntr-october-2014-statement/ talk to jurov

03:25

Qntra (S.QNTR) October 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

03:25

The operation succeeded.

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;;later tell pete_dushenski you've been awarded some s.qntr shares for your contributions to qntra as per http://trilema.com/2014/qntra-sqntr-october-2014-statement/ talk to jurov

03:26

Qntra (S.QNTR) October 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

03:26

The operation succeeded.

03:27

;;later tell PinkPosixPXE you've been awarded some s.qntr shares for your contributions to qntra as per http://trilema.com/2014/qntra-sqntr-october-2014-statement/ talk to jurov

03:27

Qntra (S.QNTR) October 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

03:27

The operation succeeded.

03:27

teh p

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teh p's have it huh.

03:28

So many p's and to think diametric and decimation are hard to tell apart

03:33

.status

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BingoBoingo: 2 pending deeds | Last bundle 4 hours and 50 minutes ago

03:41

Tipping service update feat Weev (who was suspended from twitter nao) http://weev.livejournal.com/410337.html

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weev: Gratipay allowed its SJW employee to stop my donations in secret.

03:42

BingoBoingo isn't this the guy with the totally failed pseudo-kiclstarter max keiser campaign thing ?

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Yeah

03:42

The Troll with the "Hedge Fund"

03:43

that was so much lulz. what was it called, jumpkick ? startderp ?

03:43

Troll llc.

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!s sad and disappoint

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0 results for 'sad and disappoint' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=sad+and+disappoint

03:44

no the "platform"

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startjoin

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ah yes!

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!s startjoin

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4 results for 'startjoin' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=startjoin

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https://www.startjoin.com/comments/project/trollc

03:45

User comments around the project: TRO LLC

03:47

http://41.media.tumblr.com/1cbd5bdff9ad29d8b278b90a9344d98c/tumblr_n3e4gz3bii1t8zkreo1_500.jpg girls just wanna have fun...

03:48

Ah, those comments

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it did deliver ze mucho lulz.

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anyway, this is all for me. tomorrow!

03:51

!up Vexual

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bag girl did she survive ;;8ball

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;;8ball

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One would be wise to think so.

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count the teeth make th ebet

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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/superracing/forget-the-real-melbourne-cup-form-guide-this-is-what-you-need-if-you-know-nothing-about-racing/story-fnibcaa0-1227110357781?nk=c075cca746594e4227002a4c821d4a6f

04:16

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14976 @ 0.00074343 = 11.1336 BTC [+]

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04:43

BingoBoingo: you rascal, triggered another bug in bot with your last two deeds

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O.o

04:43

hi all, i received the s.qntr shares, will start distributing them, or the receipts later today

04:43

Thank you jurov

04:43

bug fixed 3 hours ago by upstream, living on the edge!

04:44

is the website snappy for everyone?

04:44

Sure.

04:45

Website hides the secret "if bingo then fuck you" code that drives the backend

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this thing got so many threads and subprocesses, I wonder what new and exciting breakage tomorrow will bring

04:47

punkbot: Tomorrow you find an SHA collision

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http://arstechnica.com/business/2014/11/epic-2014-recalling-a-decade-old-imagining-of-the-tech-driven-media-future/

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EPIC 2014: recalling a decade-old imagining of the media’s future | Ars Technica

05:05

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16200 @ 0.00074539 = 12.0753 BTC [+]

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prefer the greyhounds to the cup tbh

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!up phf

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gabriel_laddel

!s deedbot language

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0 results for 'deedbot language' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=deedbot+language

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gabriel_laddel

punkman: what language have you written deedbot in?

05:18

RagnarDanneskjol

python

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gabriel_laddel: https://github.com/extempore/deedbundler

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extempore/deedbundler · GitHub

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you can grab the script under deedtools/ and sweep some of the unspent bundle txs

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05:38

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12850 @ 0.00074705 = 9.5996 BTC [+] {2}

05:44

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3350 @ 0.00074837 = 2.507 BTC [+]

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06:11

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27731 @ 0.00074615 = 20.6915 BTC [-] {3}

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06:42

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20212 @ 0.00074155 = 14.9882 BTC [-]

06:44

Bundled 2 deeds | http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/b/1uM6gZk7

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07:07

Confirmed bundle 1uM6gZk7VBTWEKabZXK5EPcugt9dYijvc | http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/b/1uM6gZk7

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07:32

;;seen jurov

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jurov was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 hours, 49 minutes, and 34 seconds ago: <jurov> hi all, i received the s.qntr shares, will start distributing them, or the receipts later today

07:46

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16500 @ 0.00074512 = 12.2945 BTC [+]

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08:17

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00074572 = 4.5489 BTC [+]

08:25

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13600 @ 0.00074541 = 10.1376 BTC [-] {2}

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09:00

;;later tell mircea_popescu nope, not the french one. gyrojet went out of print because, iirc, of misfires.

09:00

The operation succeeded.

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WOL << RIP.

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it was neato.

09:06

http://techcrunch.com/2014/11/03/drone-wars

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China Builds Anti-Drone Laser Tech | TechCrunch

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Logged on 08-02-2014 00:14:14; asciilifeform: let's do gedankenexperiment.

09:10

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26825 @ 0.00074131 = 19.8856 BTC [-] {2}

09:13

ben_vulpes, mod6: http://therealbitcoin.org << where's the other stuff?

09:20

mornin

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23200 @ 0.00074281 = 17.2332 BTC [+]

09:42

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28350 @ 0.00074133 = 21.0167 BTC [-] {2}

09:54

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13255 @ 0.00074371 = 9.8579 BTC [+] {2}

09:55

dub:ouchies for whoever bought at 8600 << nobody did. fabian was testing and bought 1 share of everything.

09:56

FabianB

not of s.wol

09:58

you sure? it was at the same time and only 1 share.

09:58

in any case, it was only 1-2 shares.

10:03

I'm holding 72277 S.WOL purchased at 0.00004006

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*

ThickAsThieves wins.

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plus a boatload of ATCs

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good times

10:04

holding usually wins in mpex

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yeah, we didn't do each other any favors.

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not anymore

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i've got boats of atc too

10:05

curse of pankkake

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anyway, sorry WoL sucked.

10:05

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12685 @ 0.00074266 = 9.4206 BTC [-]

10:05

i'm not sure we got to learn whether it sucked

10:05

but if theres any desire to kill it, it should of course be killed

10:05

the market (consumers) certainly voted

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did consumers know it existed?

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like any business, some did. and they didn't want to play. many additions/changes were made, with no effect.

10:06

yeah it was tricky sell

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maybe would be better encompassed in a broader gaming site

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thing is, if you market a little and get a little, you market more. if you market a little and get nothing..

10:07

various rounds of improvements & marketing were tried

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mike_c youre probably right, but to be annoying, it's also possible your initial set of bettors werent your target market

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frankly I didnt have the patience for it, I played a couple times but kept forgetting to check back

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ie me

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i dont play games

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but i tried it

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then stopped cuz well of course

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probly most of us dont play bitgames

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i don't know what the right answer is, and I am not a master marketer. but if the games had been more fun there would have been more traction than 0.

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word

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<< not much on straight gambling

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then my final crit would be that maybe it shouldnt have IPOd at all

10:09

that is possible

10:11

maybe swol can sell it?

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"it"?

10:11

the game

10:11

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14300 @ 0.00074266 = 10.62 BTC [-]

10:11

sell it to satoshicasino or whaetver

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meh. "how much will you pay me for this game nobody likes"

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haha

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one man's trash

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maybe they'll give me ATC for it ;)

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i'll give you all my atc for it

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it's only fair

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sorry to hear mike_c :\

10:13

thanks. them's the breaks.

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actually this is a question

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is the game not an asset of SWOL's?

10:14

asset valued at 0, yes.

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everything never sold is 0

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in that sense

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idk whats up with buttcoins users but my take is that btcusd chumpatroning takes 90%+ of the cake in 'services' category

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certainly its value is higher than 0

10:15

not sure i agree, but say its value is 1 btc. how much would it cost to sell it?

10:15

btcfiat i will correct myself.

10:16

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21138 @ 0.00074491 = 15.7459 BTC [+] {2}

10:16

i dont think either of those values is known

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but you da boss

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mike_c: was thinking of playing some WoL, just my luck :P

10:17

so did everyone drop out of the btc games too?

10:17

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1462 @ 0.0007484 = 1.0942 BTC [+]

10:17

yeah. 0 bets on last 4 weekly games.

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<+kakobrekla> idk whats up with buttcoins users but my take is that btcusd chumpatroning takes 90%+ of the cake in 'services' category << I can't think of any examples to refute this.

10:19

now that JD is gone

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the parrot.

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it is dead.

10:24

puzzle now has 0.05btc http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/deed/HEvYcqtx

10:24

Deed HEvYcqtx | #bitcoin-assets deed registry

10:25

I'm making a series of puzzles, this one is not very good, checking difficulty

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help me test

10:34

FabianB

http://guardtime.com/ksi-technology/ <-- are they trying to market their own fork of closed-source namecoin?

10:34

KSI Technology | Guardtime

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11:00

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35907 @ 0.00074124 = 26.6157 BTC [-] {3}

11:13

asciilifeform: updated. jurov: any word on the turdatron?

11:21

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20050 @ 0.00074061 = 14.8492 BTC [-]

11:24

Pierre_Rochard

I’m writing up bitcoin accounting software, do y’all have any feature requests? https://github.com/NakamotoInstitute/pacioli

11:24

NakamotoInstitute/pacioli · GitHub

11:36

Pierre_Rochard, some good verifyable encryption, like you can use your own pgp key or something to cover any stored files

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.deed http://dpaste.com/0CEGF80.txt

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nubbins`: Queued 1 valid deed for next bundle.

11:38

right on

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expected deed id: 62Mg7bxwiWUSHFzytWMyDsLdDUKRDnsF4MoJbsMNFKcL

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expected public address: 18puZUqAxbErt5V92xCr1DaDYgnoRmkmhr

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*

nubbins` crosses fingers

11:42

Pierre_Rochard

chetty: that’s reasonable, though only archived ‘source documents’ could be encrypted with PGP without really hurting performance. The other accounting records would use postgresql’s built in encryption features: http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.3/static/encryption-options.html

11:42

PostgreSQL: Documentation: 9.3: Encryption Options

11:43

Pierre_Rochard

chetty: keep in mind, you would host the database yourself, ideally on localhost without exposing it to the internet

11:48

Bundled 1 deed | http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/b/1AKLFcJb

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nubbins`: expected deed id: 62Mg7bxwiWUSHFzytWMyDsLdDUKRDnsF4MoJbsMNFKcL << that can't be right

11:50

nod, checking now

11:50

Confirmed bundle 1AKLFcJbTfFJzVyqdEc2jrZnWNBuAQc4yt | http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/b/1AKLFcJb

11:51

I guess hex string used where you need byte string

11:52

yeah, if i pull the hex down via json it verifies ok

11:52

what is this? is there documentation on it yet?

11:52

http://www.underhanded-c.org/

i'm sure it's something else to do with line endings

11:57

diametric

11:57

The Underhanded C Contest

12:03

punkman: yeah, verified it's a line ending issue

12:04

my local file has \n, but if i grab the raw deed from pastebin / dpaste via curl and save it to a file, it's all \r\n

12:04

but if i pipe it to my clipboard instead of using curl -o, and then paste into a new text file, it preserves \n

12:04

so... shrug.

12:05

that id was too long though

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o?

12:06

oh wait, my bad

12:06

just a straight-up shasum

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*

nubbins` scratches chin

12:07

so i guess my verification/prediction util should convert any \n to \r\n

12:07

underhanded c contest << and yes, that's a brand-new one!

12:07

ben_vulpes, asciilifeform: it should accept patches/sigs as described in http://therealbitcoin.org/mailman/listinfo/btc-dev

12:08

just db output is missing

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but now i need to sort out s.wol first

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db output ?

12:08

the TODO links

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nubbins`: hmm same here, so does dpaste convert to CRLF?

12:11

.deed http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=WtVe054c

12:11

nubbins`: Queued 1 valid deed for next bundle.

12:11

'There were a few serialization tricks. Submitter Arthur ODwyer writes usernames and IDs into a string' - from last year's winner.

12:12

punkman i have nfi. like i said, i get different results when i do curl -o vs curl | pbcopy

12:12

'Ti am pleased to learn that o'dwyer is alive. he, or at least a fellow by very same name, and i, went to school together.

12:12

almost makes me wonder if curl is doing it :0

12:12

tried with wget/curl, both gave me CRLF

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didja try piping it into a pastebin/clipboard util?

12:13

' todo links?

12:13

and then pasting into text editor

12:13

yeah got LF then

12:13

asciilifeform: on the listinf/btc-dev there will be links to list with accepted patches and their signatures

12:14

strange hey?

12:14

jurov: does that mean we have a maintainer?

12:14

curl > output.txt also preserves CRLF

12:15

asciilifeform: i mean, accepted by turdatron . that does not mean they are valid in any sense

12:15

aha.

12:16

<+nubbins`> .deed http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=WtVe054c <<< expecting deed id AF1zMmjkgvSVLM5dmTZH3hqndeHpG1KukwYahkhcSsj6 and public address 14GVvUrtrNvszwKEr9Qnqevmuy3RNHA3yF

12:17

*sigh* if s.wol paid out dividends and then immediately vanished, it would be so much easier

12:17

now it just one balance thither, another yonder.. as susual on mpex

12:18

http://www.underhanded-c.org/_m_201409.html << best C!

12:18

The Underhanded C Contest » 2014 » September

12:18

punkman see above ^^

12:18

http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/deed/AF1zMmjkgvSVLM5dmTZH3hqndeHpG1KukwYahkhcSsj6

12:18

Deed AF1zMmjk | #bitcoin-assets deed registry

12:19

assuming no other deeds get submitted, address should match up as well

12:20

punkbot, status

12:20

punkman: 1 pending deed | Last bundle 31 minutes ago

12:20

btw, punkbot will now announce additions/removals from trust list

12:21

nice

12:21

;;rate punkman -10 test :DDDD

12:22

tool for verifying submitted deeds: http://pastebin.com/AXpdkmvJ

12:22

checkdeed.js - Pastebin.com

12:23

tool for predicting deed ID of clearsigned file: http://pastebin.com/Ls76h1kd

12:23

processdeed.js - Pastebin.com

12:23

joecool you wanted documentation, see above ;)

12:24

nubbins`, here's how I do it for raw bundles, also checks blockchain https://github.com/extempore/deedbundler/blob/master/deedtools/deedtools.py

12:24

deedbundler/deedtools.py at master · extempore/deedbundler · GitHub

12:24

handy deed utils

12:25

!s deed utils

12:25

0 results for 'deed utils' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=deed+utils

12:25

shrug, :D

12:26

punkman this thing is coming together :D

12:28

Bet created: "Eric Frein to receive death sentence" http://bitbet.us/bet/1061/

12:28

Unable to get details for bet 1062: invalid character '<' looking for beginning of value

12:29

wasn't that bet created a few days ago

12:30

yes, someone requested to make a custom rss feed for []bot only for it not to be used

12:31

(its still using twitter and i just pushed some nonsense there)

12:31

fuck you to anyone who mentions rss again.

12:32

kakobrekla: what's the custom rss URL, maybe it'd be useful for bitbet.py

12:32

you mentioned rss.

12:36

heh

12:48

Bundled 1 deed | http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/b/14GVvUrt

12:48

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8309 @ 0.0007433 = 6.1761 BTC [+]

12:55

http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/u-s-gene-patents-patient-care-stymied-in-canada-hospital-claims-1.2820211

12:55

U.S. gene patents: Patient care stymied in Canada, hospital claims - Health - CBC News

12:56

<+punkbot> Bundled 1 deed | http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/b/14GVvUrt << it works!

12:56

Bundle 14GVvUrt | #bitcoin-assets deed registry

12:56

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zk_VszbZa_s

12:56

Такого как Путин / One Like Putin, English Subs - YouTube

12:56

*

jurov invites asciilifeform to dance

12:56

o/

12:57

\o

12:59

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00074028 = 11.1042 BTC [-]

12:59

speaking of Putin, if anyone doesnt know of, check out Rasputin.

12:59

Grigori?

12:59

;;google Grigori Rasputin

12:59

Grigori Rasputin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grigori_Rasputin>; Rasputin - Biography - Religious Figure - Biography.com: <http://www.biography.com/people/rasputin-9452162>; Grigory Rasputin - Russiapedia - RT.com: <http://russiapedia.rt.com/prominent-russians/history-and-mythology/grigory-rasputin/>

13:02

rastafarian putin

13:04

Confirmed bundle 14GVvUrtrNvszwKEr9Qnqevmuy3RNHA3yF | http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/b/14GVvUrt

13:13

joecool i did this once

13:13

can't find original, here's a lo-res copy

13:13

http://imgur.com/0bukv18

13:13

imgur: the simple image sharer

13:16

Okay, it turns out the balance changes were just cancelled orders and S.WOL balance did not vanish yet

13:16

so i can move on to s.qntr writers

13:16

coinbr users, auth with gribble and claim here or PM me your username

13:17

will be processed in FIFO manner

13:18

BingoBoingo ^

13:19

cazalla peterl PinkPosixPXE ^

13:22

jurov: BingoBoingo submitted a deed. check logs.

13:24

so we'll let our lawyers talk, okay

13:32

.deed http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=CZvVKFM9

13:32

nubbins`: Queued 1 valid deed for next bundle.

13:32

better late than never

13:35

nubbins`: did the poster ever leave canada? I tracked it last night and it said "scanned"

13:35

i'll look into it :)

13:35

ty :D

13:35

asciilifeform in the meantime it looks like i fucked up the dates in this contract

13:36

(Darwin) < got that right.

13:39

thestringpuller BingoBoingo: transferred

13:48

Bundled 1 deed | http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/b/1DiTPHSU

13:52

Confirmed bundle 1DiTPHSU9ztLsLvYeT9qTqB9n4vJUrPHZU | http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/b/1DiTPHSU

13:53

also from today http://www.bestbitcoincasino.com/bitcoin-adds-new-flavors-to-prediction-markets/

13:53

Bitcoin Adds New Flavors to Prediction Markets

13:54

>Perhaps the most common brand is Predictious. It takes pride as the premier Bitcoin prediction market that requires bettors to sign in using a Google account.

13:54

><

13:55

they should change their name to firstbestbitcoincasino.

13:55

000000001firstbestbitcoincasino

13:56

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18800 @ 0.00073914 = 13.8958 BTC [-]

13:57

text is weird but at least bitbet has the crown on the .jpg

13:59

if you put the word 'premier' on the homepage you would have won the text too.

13:59

*

kakobrekla still learning.

14:04

;;ticker

14:04

Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 327.32, Best ask: 327.9, Bid-ask spread: 0.58000, Last trade: 327.98, 24 hour volume: 10636.65677201, 24 hour low: 322.0, 24 hour high: 333.99, 24 hour vwap: 328.637453091

~ 20 minutes ~

14:24

"During her rise to fame DePol insured her legs for $100,000 after which newspapers claimed Morlacchi was 'more valuable than Kentucky'." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giuseppina_Morlacchi

14:24

Giuseppina Morlacchi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

14:27

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B1Zcu3yCAAAuw5I.png

14:29

!up growth

14:29

hope it's benign

14:30

heh

14:34

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11205477/Ted-Baker-loses-5m-after-employee-steals-seven-tonnes-of-clothes.html

14:34

Ted Baker loses £5m after employee steals seven tonnes of clothes - Telegraph

14:37

that article delivers

14:38

"NODL had spotted losses after he joined the company in 2003, but had mistakenly put them down to flaws in its stock control system."

14:41

!t m s.qntr

14:41

[MPEX:S.QNTR] 1D: 0.00013514 / 0.00013638 / 0.00014 (3911 shares, 0.53 BTC), 7D: 0.00013514 / 0.00013638 / 0.00014 (3911 shares, 0.53 BTC), 30D: 0.00013514 / 0.00013638 / 0.00014 (3911 shares, 0.53 BTC)

14:42

whoa it's moving

14:43

[trust-update] no changes

14:44

that's the oddest damn donation mechanism i've seen in my life.

14:44

ben_vulpes: heh

14:44

!t m s.bbet

14:44

[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / / ( shares, BTC), 30D: 0.00049 / 0.00049 / 0.00049 (8 shares, 0.00 BTC)

14:50

*

jurov just learned of "openssl smime" ...truly a kitchen sink, this

14:51

<punkman> "newspapers claimed Morlacchi was 'more valuable than Kentucky'. << well, at that time they were!

14:52

ben_vulpes the clothes ?!

14:53

punkman getting ready to dump ? ><

14:53

also unfortunate name, now you need to be tabbed twice.

14:53

^

14:53

very much so. it pains me to tab twice.

14:54

maybe I should be 1punkman

14:54

maybe just 1punk

14:54

you know punk and man form an oxymoron btw ?

14:54

1p. cheap bugger.

14:54

bot's alt-name is dpbot, can switch

14:54

good idea.

14:54

deep penetration bot?

14:55

and incidentally, the same naming convention as for websites (distinct first two letters) works here, too.

14:55

deep, double, dry, take your pick

14:55

daniel p bot ?

14:56

mircea_popescu: what's the oxymoron

14:56

a punk is a young boy used (generally against his will) for the sexual gratification of adult males.

14:56

!up kiwi-test-user

14:56

kiwi-test-user

syn

14:56

ack

14:57

punkman http://trilema.com/2012/big-rock-candy-mountain/ "The punk rolled up his big blue eyes And said to the jocker, Sandy,"

14:57

Big Rock Candy Mountain pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

14:58

I thought it had to do with mohawks and guitars and things

14:58

well yes.

14:58

eeexactly.

14:58

why not 'deedbot' anyway?

14:59

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13534 @ 0.00073678 = 9.9716 BTC [-] {2}

15:02

rapidssl transmits certificates in the clear via email

15:03

!up cb_bitcoin

15:03

ben_vulpes what, that is a problem ? o.O

15:03

i don't even know any more

15:04

danielpbarron

;;later tell punkman <+punkman> bot's alt-name is dpbot, can switch << please do

15:04

The operation succeeded.

15:04

double penetration bot?

15:05

sorta on topic, i tried to get a box at OVH and when they asked for dox, i asked for pgp. after about 10 days, i got a reply : You can upload the documents to Dropbox or google Docs and password protect them. And provide us with the password. And we will be able to validate your account.

15:05

gtfo.

15:05

speaking of young boys http://dpaste.com/383BH45

15:05

dpaste: 383BH45

15:06

lol!!

15:07

kakobrekla: where does bitbet live now? or is it state secret?

15:07

danielpbarron

and by please do I mean please do not call it dpb*

15:08

kakobrekla lol. nice going!

15:09

punkman you need to be tabbed twice. << i suggest change to spunkman

15:10

then it needs to be stabbed like fifty times.

15:10

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15200 @ 0.00073624 = 11.1908 BTC [-]

15:12

wtf does ovh even demand dox at all? isn't money enough these days?

15:12

lots of hosting companies do that

15:12

in case you are a haxx0r or whatever

15:12

yes they cover their ass if you start doing sth illegal

15:12

mike_c actually im going to be moving it tonight it seems atm still on hetzner, new home is securedservers.com as anyone with the public ip address can figure out

15:14

"100% uptime, GUARANTEED!"

15:14

mhm

15:14

it must be good

15:14

hehe

15:14

that site takes about five seconds to go from blank page to something visible.

15:14

bounce money is nothing these days.

15:14

which dc you going with?

15:14

i picked this by recommendation, not by design

15:14

amsterdam/phonix/ashburn?

15:14

ams

15:15

good choice. now just convince management you need to visit the servers often.

15:15

lol why

15:16

cuz amsterdam is fun!

15:16

ah

15:16

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21700 @ 0.00073385 = 15.9245 BTC [-] {2}

15:16

that'd help getting the hosting bill to 9k a month

15:16

you are not spending enough kako!

15:17

jus need 8.5k really

15:17

plane tickets to buenos aires will help, too

15:18

how much is yurp to ba ? like 1k ?

15:18

2k ?

15:19

i dunno

15:19

also, anyone own aged/trusted accounts on BlackHatWorld TrafficPlanet WarriorForum DigitalPoint SitePoint they might wish to sell or share ?

15:20

gotta buy some media support for this qntra thing.

15:21

about 1.5k round-trip from Italy

15:21

euro ?

15:21

yea

15:22

still, not so terrible.

15:22

what are those?

15:22

bounce forums where the derpy web kids gather.

15:23

mp just wants more ddos

15:23

"hey, its pageviews"

15:23

kakobrekla it totally was worth every dime i didn't pay, that ddos.

15:23

did you see the thanks from the capitol of fires i got ?

15:23

dunno?

15:24

!s from:mircea_popescu pastebin

15:24

43 results for 'from:mircea_popescu pastebin' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from%3Amircea_popescu+pastebin

15:25

everything but a pastebin link

15:25

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-11-2014#906564

15:25

Logged on 01-11-2014 19:28:51; mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/PnsGiZ2A <<< dude... this is just what i do. i save the people who save people from FIRE

15:26

lolk

15:27

no dude, now i have an in with brooklyn fd. if i ever got a fire problem in brooklyn ima call my man raffa direct.

15:27

you don't understand how the world works.

15:27

https://twitter.com/st_vincent/status/528982224075763712

15:27

Really need to do laundry, but torn between "SLUT" and "COWBOY" settings... http://t.co/AkFJnECkzm

15:28

bwahaha

15:28

it's really "cowboytoy"

15:28

which i suppose means cowgirl ?

15:30

http://cryptome.org/2014/11/fbi-mil-isis-homeland-threat.htm

15:33

what happened to fbi miner guy?

15:33

http://qntra.net/2014/11/7th-underhanded-c-contest-going-on-now/

15:33

7th Underhanded C Contest Going on Now | Qntra.net

15:34

is this proof the USG is completely filled with muppets?

15:34

bounce well it will be completely filled with cartoon characters soon

15:34

BingoBoingo o hey cool. you participating ?

15:34

yeah probably a slander on the muppets. sorry jim!

15:35

mircea_popescu: No, just figured a writeup fits Qntra's demographic.

15:35

prolly.

15:35

if anyone from b-a gets in there im buyin' you a beer.

15:36

Thanks, I just wanted to link to a relevant past challenge in the writeup http://www.underhanded-c.org/_page_id_16.html

15:36

The Underhanded C Contest » 2007

15:42

punkman: this thing got so many threads and subprocesses, I wonder what new and exciting breakage tomorrow will bring

15:42

spoken like a true admin!

15:43

punkman is it stable nao ? i was planning to do a trilema write-up, is it time ?

15:43

maybe give it a few days

15:43

mircea_popescu: there will be qntra writeup soon

15:43

too*

15:44

http://trilema.com/2014/introducing-the-qntra/ ?

15:44

Introducing the qntra pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

15:46

mircea_popescu: qntra writeup about punkbot

15:46

ah, talk to these other guys.

15:47

i kno. it's on editor's desk now. just letting you know. ;)

15:47

ah cool.

15:47

i didn't get it originally :) good for you.

15:49

ThickAsThieves: maybe swol can sell it? <<< it definitely can. it's been publicly announced it closes, someone wants to make an offer they know where to make it.

15:49

kakobrekla: idk whats up with buttcoins users but my take is that btcusd chumpatroning takes 90%+ of the cake in 'services' category << just about right.

15:51

joecool: what is this? is there documentation on it yet? <<< you mean the deedbot ?

15:51

mircea_popescu: yes

15:52

i had been absent from here for a month or two, it is new

15:52

ah, its a deed registrar we've been trying to get going since summer. finally punkman made it work.

15:52

if you look through the logs the spec is a pastebin plastered like a dozen diff places.

15:53

^ text of gpg-signed deed is used as passphrase for brainwallet, address of which is funded with pittance to prove document's existence at a particular point in time

15:53

oh so it has a reference in the blockchain too?

15:53

nubbins`: punkman i have nfi. like i said, i get different results when i do curl -o vs curl | pbcopy << this sounds like os/x

15:53

joecool yes.

15:53

pretty cool

15:53

totally.

15:54

jurov: *sigh* if s.wol paid out dividends and then immediately vanished, it would be so much easier <<< that's how it will work ?

15:55

mircea_popescu funny thing is, pbcopy is the only osx-specific tool, and it's the only one that preserves \n line endings

15:55

cause it knows it should see ?

15:55

all the unix stuff is "eh, whatevs"

15:56

pbcopy is really annoying

15:56

got a mac recently...and yea

15:56

kakobrekla: fuck you to anyone who mentions rss again. <<< awww angry kako!!! of WRATH!

15:56

thestringpuller ehh it does what it should

15:56

joecool here's an example

15:57

http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/deed/AF1zMmjkgvSVLM5dmTZH3hqndeHpG1KukwYahkhcSsj6

15:57

Deed AF1zMmjk | #bitcoin-assets deed registry

15:57

if you sha256sum the text of that deed, you'll get AF1zMmjkgvSVLM5dmTZH3hqndeHpG1KukwYahkhcSsj6 as a result

15:58

that ^ is then used as a brainwallet passphrase to get the public address 14GVvUrtrNvszwKEr9Qnqevmuy3RNHA3yF and its associated private key

15:58

next, that address is funded: https://blockchain.info/address/14GVvUrtrNvszwKEr9Qnqevmuy3RNHA3yF

15:58

Bitcoin Address 14GVvUrtrNvszwKEr9Qnqevmuy3RNHA3yF

15:58

thereby proving the document's existence at the time of funding.

15:58

deeds 101

15:59

kakobrekla: >Perhaps the most common brand is Predictious. It takes pride as the premier Bitcoin prediction market that requires bettors to sign in using a Google account. <<< ahahahaha bejesus.

15:59

then again i shouldn't laugh, the aborigines also took pride in smearing shit all over their faces or w/e it is they did, when the bitcoin colonists found them.

16:00

!t m s.qntr

16:00

[MPEX:S.QNTR] 1D: 0.00013514 / 0.00013638 / 0.00014 (3911 shares, 0.53 BTC), 7D: 0.00013514 / 0.00013638 / 0.00014 (3911 shares, 0.53 BTC), 30D: 0.00013514 / 0.00013638 / 0.00014 (3911 shares, 0.53 BTC)

16:00

mod6

.deedbot http://therealbitcoin.com/charter-B71EADAF.asc

16:00

hehe check that out, trading!

16:00

jurov you got an addy for trasurer for bitcoin foundation published yet ? or how's that thing coming along ?

16:01

mod6

.deed http://therealbitcoin.com/charter-B71EADAF.asc

16:01

mod6: Queued 1 valid deed for next bundle.

16:02

use the genesis deed address for donations 8)

16:02

lol

16:02

meantime, my 0-fee tx finally made it thru

16:02

https://blockchain.info/address/149LB8VYaT1BdMLyQUL92Kj6KrJfNwcp64

16:02

Bitcoin Address 149LB8VYaT1BdMLyQUL92Kj6KrJfNwcp64

16:02

tbh, punkman made a major innovation with the bot. that it responds when you call it, like

16:02

punkbot deed baby

16:02

mircea_popescu: Error: 'baby' is not a valid http url.

16:03

this is pretty fucking great, because the special char space was getting crowded

16:03

i think this should be the standard bot calling procedure. say its name.

16:03

;;it !sure ,,was

16:03

Error: "it" is not a valid command.

16:03

assbot t m s.qntr

16:03

gribble ticker

16:03

%no *it #wasnt

16:03

kakobrekla omg whay the haet!

16:03

kako haetmoad OFF

16:03

anyway, it's gonna be the standard going forward.

16:04

mircea_popescu: on it

16:04

its a good thing we can have as many standards as we need

16:04

fifteen

16:04

so many standards, so few substandards

16:05

lmao

16:05

perhaps we'll call this the superstandard, yes? set it apart a bit?

16:05

davout

nubbins`: just call it microsoft

16:05

my standard is a standard one, you can use whatever.

16:05

i support the standard standards

16:06

on a go-forward basis

16:06

as a consumer of kako's standards, I can vouch they are anything but standard

16:06

my standards just got for-pay model.

16:06

erm, is that standard?

16:06

!Contre nous de la tyrannie l'étendard sanglant est levé!

16:06

it is now.

16:06

but they work, which is also not standard.

16:07

!up Zebetus

16:07

mike_c idk i make em up on spot :|

16:07

so they're more like spotdards ?

16:07

well they are standard for me

16:07

try making them on the stan next time.

16:08

so you can call em potato

16:08

standard potato

16:08

nice round n shit.

16:08

like a tomato.

16:11

Azelphur

mircea_popescu: haha, I see you upped a friend of mine :)

16:11

my, isn't that nice. google slowly breaking stuff in browsers to push their own craptastic contraption with copious user friendlyness and vendor lock-in sauce

16:12

ool.

16:12

bounce strategy!

16:13

*

bounce is using pre-webkit opera now. not too happy everything is going webkit, just with shittier and shittier user interfaces wrapped around it.

16:13

Bundled 1 deed | http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/b/1MXeLHi5

16:14

bounce ever try the w3c browser

16:14

bounce makes two of us.

16:14

on both scores.

16:14

http://www.w3.org/Amaya/

16:14

Amaya Home Page

16:15

presto sux though.

16:15

years and years ago, and it didn't impress me with the w3c

16:15

from thestringpuller http://qntra.net/2014/11/new-bitcoin-deed-system-launches/

16:15

New Bitcoin Deed System Launches | Qntra.net

16:16

13EVfGFm2MYM8rFfz5n2pzJh6AznEh8126 will do?

16:16

how many man-years would it cost to come up with a decent web rendering engine these days?

16:16

bout two.

16:17

new qntra share model: word_count - (footnotes * 100)

16:17

and ima bbl!

16:17

that sounds low

16:17

news flash: news doesn't have footnotes.

16:18

its not news

16:18

its views and cumentary

16:19

but i agree on big footnotes being big

16:19

Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/328QWJ8.txt )

16:19

!b 4

16:20

mircea_popescu: or i can generate something like 1BTCFund but it 'll take a while

16:20

especially when you explain with 4 words taking up 2 lines space

16:21

but i can see it, mp having big cultural influence in this cult, weird bitbet doesnt have footnotes (yet)

16:22

also has anyone ever done headnotes?

16:22

maybe something like -3. this site is not for stupid, -2. ....

16:22

hehe

16:27

!b4

16:30

http://www.thoughtcrime.org/blog/telegram-crypto-challenge/

16:30

Moxie Marlinspike >> Blog >> A Crypto Challenge For The Telegram Developers

16:31

Confirmed bundle 1MXeLHi5CRAAkeoJqxFRzBwgMjg7LrLxsA | http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/b/1MXeLHi5

16:31

mircea_popescu, ben_vulpes: 1FundZy7m7b8begbh9haCguKJcAdFopRJ9

16:43

jurov now gpg sign dat shit

16:43

http://therealbitcoin.org/treasurer_contract.html

16:43

and deed it up!

16:45

with the blablablas?

16:46

preferably replace the blablas with something that at least passes checksum

16:46

!up scoopbot

16:49

the REFERENCES can't be replaced by definition.. why they must be there?

16:50

is kakobrekla here?

16:52

yea

16:54

so scoopbot is ready (penguirker replacement), I suppose I need to talk to you about registering him in the chan?

16:56

PeterL: did you use irker too?

16:56

no, it is a bot I made myself

16:57

but does it work?

16:57

yes

16:57

is the syntax such that my great ass suggested?

16:57

s/that/as

16:58

huh?

16:58

!s if you are going to do it

16:58

10 results for 'if you are going to do it' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=if+you+are+going+to+do+it

16:59

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-10-2014#882883

16:59

Logged on 19-10-2014 02:27:17; kakobrekla: PeterL if you are going to do it, make the syntax 'New blog post on $sitename by $author: $url"

16:59

oh, that. right now it is "new blog post on $sitename: $url"

17:00

add the author?

17:02

ok, I will do that now

17:02

great

17:03

once this works and if you are bored, add wordcount at the end of report and estimated reading time

17:04

ugh.

17:04

wha?

17:04

*

bounce was about to say something about making the notice shorter, but estimated reading time? ew!

17:04

yeah

17:05

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17600 @ 0.00073187 = 12.8809 BTC [-] {2}

17:05

easier to make the call - click or not to click

17:05

plus # of footnotes

17:05

no, it's complete bs. reading time does not depend on wordcount alone. or even taking word length into consideration.

17:06

maybe

17:06

on the other hand would work for qntra

17:06

reading @ easy difficulty

17:07

so youse gots a difficulty estimator @ qntra?

17:07

ok, now scoopbot should include the author.

17:08

!up scoopbot

17:08

but anyway a simplistic approach : estimate reading time by multiplying the word count by result of brainwallet test

17:09

;;isup deeds.bitcoin-assets.com

17:09

deeds.bitcoin-assets.com is up

17:10

author, wordcount, footnote count would give some indication to make your own estimation

17:10

whats footnote measure?

17:10

nothing.

17:10

reading time

17:10

maybe the cultness of the article

17:10

if you don't want to hear the answer, you might as well not ask the question.

17:10

would I be able to tell where the footnotes start from the blob of text in the rss feed?

17:11

lol

17:11

is up but sloooow

17:11

PeterL we just masturbating here

17:11

my next task is to rework all scoopbot's commands to respond to his name

17:11

the entire article ends up in the rss feed?

17:12

depends on the feed, I think?

17:12

who knows, its rss

17:12

footnotes are a major break in reading flow, so they're quite influential for the overall reading user experience and therefore the total amount of time the user gets to waste going back and forth

17:13

to answer your

17:13

anyway, we are measuring reading time, not comprehension time

17:13

question you didn't want answered

17:13

if i give you 300 pages of easy text, you can not read it in 1 minutes

17:13

no matter how easy it is

17:13

you're not measuring anything, you're making vague estimates on unsound assumptions

17:14

01:27 #bitcoin-assets: <+mircea_popescu> ;;later tell PinkPosixPXE you've been awarded some s.qntr shares for your contributions to qntra as per http://trilema.com/2014/qntra-sqntr-october-2014-statement/ talk to jurov << Thanks for adding it to the exchange and doling out some shares, and thanks as well jurov :)

17:14

Qntra (S.QNTR) October 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

17:14

mircea_popescu: we need some default agreement for shares that don't get claimed

17:14

i propose if they don't get claimed in 14 days, then they get loaned to coinbr.

17:14

and after that, shares+dividends will be delivered after 14 days of the request

17:15

er.. in 14days of the request

17:16

now, what with the treasurer stuff? i'll just sign in without the references.

17:16

I've been meaning to chat more on here about assisting with some of the bitcoin dev and testing work I've been watching go on, but I've been slammed with projects, I have too many projects/hobbies I'm beginning to think. Either way, I wrote up an install_bitcoin script that takes into account dependency issues for certain versoins of debian and ubuntu.. not sure if anyone would find it useful,

17:16

mod6 expressed interest, and I set it up after running into issues on one of my instances, and then tested it across a vagrant+virtualbox testing environment with a few debian and ubuntu distros.

17:16

PinkPosixPXE ditch the bad hobbies

17:16

sounds like a good addition to wiki.b-a

17:17

wiki , yes, as stan pointed out, needs work.

17:17

yea, I can point out several pages where people complain about hte dependency issues, and so I thought 'well this script would fix them all' then idiots don't go using berklydb/bdb 5.3 or another versoin that isn't wallet or blockchain storage compatible

17:17

would qntra like to sponsor a WP plugin that accepts signed posts and puts them in editor's queue?

17:18

cazalla, ^

17:18

Looks like we'll close on our next bank funding round this week

17:18

punkman i can create another mailing list for that

17:18

kakobrekla: well it's all that + full time syseng work.. so .. been trying to find time and get rid of the unimportant ones

17:18

jurov, ah yeah that might be a good way to duct-tape this together

17:18

Not sure if any of you are into rentalstarter...

17:22

;;rate PinkPosixPXE 1 helps noobs

17:22

Rating entry successful. Your rating for user PinkPosixPXE has changed from 1 to 1.

17:23

ty :)

17:23

its true

17:23

!t h rent

17:23

[HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00450000 / 0.00456986 / 0.00490800 (482 shares, 2.20267263 BTC), 7D: 0.00412527 / 0.00465236 / 0.00490998 (1567 shares, 7.29024029 BTC), 30D: 0.00400000 / 0.00451531 / 0.00509996 (4875 shares, 22.01212200 BTC)

17:24

I can also help you guys figure out the gpg git key signing if that's still a debacle or issue for you, but I'll have to ask more questions, and find out the scope/desires first, before we could dive into that. But I'm happy to help throw my extra cpu cycles at this stuff :)

17:25

PinkPosixPXE: current status is: http://therealbitcoin.org/mailman/listinfo/btc-dev , no git at all

17:26

PinkPosixPXE were you actually following the debate?

17:27

hello everyone, its been a while

17:28

thanks jurov, perfect.. wanted to see where things were at..

17:28

kakobrekla: I followed much of it for the past few weeks

17:28

the idscussions around the patches, and testing, bitcoin foundation, git signing, etc.

17:28

discussions*

17:28

but the last week has been really busy

17:29

well color me surprised then.

17:29

I was going to speak up sooner, but I didn't want to commit/promise anything, when I was so busy

17:29

so I just kept watching the discussions, and kept up with what was going on

17:30

!up scoopbot

17:31

PeterL is that thing registered with nickserv?

17:31

punkbot, deed https://coinbr.com/foundation.txt.asc

17:31

jurov: Queued 1 valid deed for next bundle.

17:31

yes

17:31

;;ident scoopbot

17:31

Nick 'scoopbot', with hostmask 'scoopbot!~scoopbot@cphost02.qhoster.net', is not identified.

17:32

do I need to make a grible ident for it?

17:32

no

17:32

;;rate ninjashogun -3 UnSavory Garnish, Vegetable Can't find right IRC window

17:32

Rating entry successful. Your rating for user ninjashogun has changed from -3 to -3.

17:32

a nickserv account would be decent, though

17:32

as in, with a cloak saying to bug you if it misbehaves

17:33

oh, how do I do that?

17:33

PeterL get a cloak in #freenode

17:33

you need to group a second nick for it first

17:34

so the bot should be logged in under my account?

17:34

no I mean to get a cloak, you need to have an alternate nick grouped in the account

17:34

*

bounce would make a separate account, but dunno what freenode wants

17:35

lol cs

17:35

oh, a second nick grouped to scoopbot?

17:35

anyway, should be voiced on join

17:35

https://freenode.net/faq.shtml - see "what is the recommended way to set up my irc nickname" #5 & #6

17:35

freenode: frequently-asked questions

17:35

Right now we have about .015btc/share in equity, stock price is well under that though

17:35

if i got the command right anyway

17:36

The20YearIRCloud: any more ipos coming up?

17:36

Nope

17:36

http://qntra.net/2014/11/american-malls-converted-to-data-centres/

17:36

American Malls Converted To Data Centres | Qntra.net

17:36

Absolutely no need for em

17:37

;;calc (0.000031 * 12) / 0.015

17:37

0.0248

17:38

is the company building up cash or paying out most free cash flow in divs?

17:38

RIght now we're looking at changing the div pay to reflect higher re-investment in the company

17:39

Especially since the banks right now are offering us 1:5 leverage for each dollar we put into the loans, and that's pretty hard to refuse.

17:39

so lowering divs and building up equity

17:39

Divs won't actually go down, they just won't go up

17:39

While equity will increase significantly more

17:40

I'm looking by end of year under current system to be paying out around 10-14btc/month in dividends if we don't change the setup. Our last month's payment was something like 5btc

17:40

cool. well if you're not issuing more shares who cares what the price is

17:40

I personally don't, it lets me buy more shares. However I know we have some that want to see high dividends

17:41

well lucky for you they aren't voting shares

17:41

and a mix of high share price & dividend price shows more of a proof-of-concept to investors

17:41

So we expanded our layer 4 attacking power. Qntra/Trilema, therealbitcoin, bitbet, bitcoin-assets.com... take your pick!

17:41

Even if they were voting shares it wouldn't change much. Our top 3 shareholders whom account for something like 60% of share ownership are all on the board and agree with where we're headed

17:42

PinkPosi4PXE, Its stupid to reconnect without a cloak

17:42

great, so keep plugging? you're profitable and don't need more investment. sounds good to me.

17:42

Pretty much

17:42

congrats.

17:42

The bank's telling us we should be able to loan a little under $1mm with our current margins

17:42

<+jurov> the REFERENCES can't be replaced by definition.. why they must be there? <<< heh

17:43

biggest risk to your business now is probably being associated with havelock.

17:43

And our margins are *quite* healthy considering industry averages

17:43

fivezerotwo, you never got back to me

17:43

Yep

17:43

cazalla, oh yeah

17:43

jurov in fact, that REFERENCE should be amended to point to the foundation charter.

17:43

Bundled 1 deed | http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/b/12CJHNrB

17:43

I wouldn't be surprised to see the BOA want to move away in the next year

17:43

^ too late

17:44

that would be smart.

17:44

ben_vulpes this deed^

17:44

ah for shame, was just about to post the details in question

17:44

http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/deed/J74EmoXm5mggdfGwAWvFCx4Z9KWycj3jeeLthijXAvY

17:44

Deed J74EmoXm | #bitcoin-assets deed registry

17:45

But, for the time being that's where we are, it's working for us (kind of).

17:45

now there's a [R.1] in the doc w/ no reference below :S

17:45

yeah, it works right up until it doesn't.

17:46

[R.1] As established in The Bitcoin Public Record, Deed ID 9ULZPc7yeZ9fQEA1aZ73H6mcv1s2C4gYFAbNTb5urovj,

17:46

Bundle 12CJHNrBGLNxLaYbX9NH2tnU1JAeXxByZ6 confirmed in block BLOCKHEIGHT with transaction ID db155b101580cf08c366f6016abe3310a1122f7f67f7303878a7254e854e2689.

17:47

Arbeit Macht Frei http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/11/03/_work_sets_you_free_sign_stolen_dachau_memorial_robbed.html

17:47

"Work sets you free" sign stolen: Dachau memorial robbed.

17:47

hah

17:48

Confirmed bundle 12CJHNrBGLNxLaYbX9NH2tnU1JAeXxByZ6 | http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/b/12CJHNrB

17:50

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2l7by9/new_bitcoin_deed_system_launches/

17:50

New Bitcoin Deed System Launches : Bitcoin

17:51

upvote this please :)

17:51

ddos incoming?

17:52

punkman, yeah, getting PinkPosixPXE's AWS account suspended first, then moving to assets sites

17:52

well this particular one won't take much

17:52

could probably refresh really fast in your browser

17:52

have fun, i'll see you soon :D

17:52

I'm having fun with the company though, one day a month I get to feel what it's like to walk around like a drug dealer with $3k-$4k cash in my pocket.

17:53

fivezerotwo wants 2 btc to stop lol http://pastebin.com/zYgMgPhU

17:53

<fivezerotwo> i haz vry p0wrful LOIC cannonz <fivezerotwo> 15mpps <cazalla> i - Pastebin.com

17:53

"hey pssst got anything on ya??" "nothing but some apartment dust."

17:54

is it not funny?

17:54

too dry?

17:54

*

kakobrekla puts more water on the thing.

17:55

kakobrekla: See, that's useful. Wet Apartment dust === Spackle

17:57

That's about it

17:57

"hey, got any bedbugs?"

18:03

<fivezerotwo> 15mpps << wait, all this trouble from 15mbits?

18:04

its packets per second

18:04

also dick millimeters

18:04

same thing

18:04

millipenises?

18:05

well better post any deeds before it explodes

18:17

imagine paying someone to stop a ddos

18:17

my sides

18:25

could only get funnier if he hasked to put the ransom note into a deed

18:26

heh

18:26

punkman fwiw:

18:26

<@gmaxwell> nubbins`: Change the hash to get rid of the crazy base58 (pita to implement) in the inner loop and make it a merkle tree so the proof can be compact even with many things commited. And instead of using a private key, use a pay-to-contract https://github.com/Blockstream/contracthashtool

18:26

Blockstream/contracthashtool · GitHub

18:28

punkman: would qntra like to sponsor a WP plugin that accepts signed posts and puts them in editor's queue? <<< it's an idea but i think we keep process as is atm

18:30

ben_vulpes: you run cascadianhacker.com?

18:31

nubbins`: lol base58 is the pita to implement

18:32

but good point about merkle tree

18:36

that was entertaining

18:36

what a jackass.. with his leet .NET framework skillz

18:37

allow me to recommend you a cloak.

18:37

yea, im already setting one up.. I can flip my ip as often as I like, but I'm setting up ipv6 cloaking

18:38

I also spoke to amazon just in case .. his 'ddos' was pretty weak

18:38

lol

18:40

i bet it was like 1% of xmas traffic ;/

18:41

PinkPosixPXE don't knock .net, where else can you combine c-style code with visual basic in the same executable? :D

18:43

hehe

18:45

I'm actually in the process of migrating off aws to my beefier vps' with ddos mitigation and the works, but just hadn't done so yet.. didn't know mr. micro penis police was going to decide to pull my pigtails while he sits in his mothers basement..

18:45

I didn't get a calendar invite from him.. ;)

18:46

yes, lets irc get 10gbps lines for our ircing needs

18:46

-irc

18:49

but how will we generate deeds locally and fund the addresses ourselves if deeds.bitcoin-assets.com is down

18:49

by using the available tools?!

18:50

paper and pen?

18:50

it's as if there's no stopping us ;0

18:51

maybe using asciilifeform's blockchain telegraph?

18:51

blockchain ham

18:52

hehe these vps' are for a few other projects as well, but will also meet my irc needs

18:53

jurov another boxen is cheaper than that :)

19:00

PeterL: oui c'est moi

19:00

does it have a rss feed?

19:10

ok, time to finish up some work/be productive, and have some delightful Pho for dinner!

19:15

you live in the nam?

19:17

hehe nah, I just buy food from the nam's restaurant.. the good ones

19:19

nom 'nam

19:21

PeterL: i made one at one point, but it's fallen over since.

19:22

aha, let me know if you get a feed working so I can add it to the bot's list

19:32

;;rate fivezerotwo -1 >I wanna see if trust list notifications work correctly (next one in a couple of hours)

19:32

Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user fivezerotwo has been recorded.

19:34

New post on BTC Scoop by peter: http://blog.btcscoop.com/introducing-the-scoopbot/

19:36

it werks

19:36

drinks for everyone!

19:36

when I tried to add author i borked it, but now it works again

19:37

you cant really claim that

19:37

scoopbot request n00dz

19:38

> http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-10-2014#905173

19:38

Logged on 31-10-2014 04:09:06; kakobrekla: there is only non working code atm so stfu.

19:42

ahhh that was the best salmon in soffran sauce i ever had.

19:42

Oh another "if massive mining power, then this had probably been discussed to death before" attack http://bramcohen.com/2014/11/03/an-attack-on-the-timestamp-semantics-of-bitcoin

19:43

nah, actually, the timestamping is known to be weak.

19:43

soffran ? saffron?

19:43

saffron yea

19:43

that thing is poison.

19:44

mike_c: news flash: news doesn't have footnotes. << i dunno, maybe i'm nuts but imo the current solution to the problem of illiterare population (dumb down the news) is maybe not the best. putting footnotes in there so even the clueless can follow may work ?

19:45

kakobrekla isn't that if you eat thr wrong part ?

19:46

jurov: mircea_popescu: or i can generate something like 1BTCFund but it 'll take a while <<< eeentirely up to you.

19:47

news doesn't have footnotes because they have not adapted to using the technology yet

19:47

and totally bitbet needs moar footnotes :D

19:47

they are still stuck trying to make their websites look like a paper newspaper

19:47

^

19:47

mircea_popescu afaik no. but you need 10 grams to take you out.

19:47

and breaking all the fucking browsers as a result.

19:48

kakobrekla seeing how i didn't pay like 10k for the sauce alone, i somehow doubt there was enough in there then

19:48

lucky for us it has a strong taste so you dont need much of it.

19:48

less than half a gram for a persons meal +-

19:49

punkman Sorry, the requested URL 'http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/raw_bundles/1M/1MXeLHi5%00bundle' caused an error: Not found: '/raw_bundles/1M/1MXeLHi5\x00bundle'

19:49

i just clicked a link!

19:50

0x1) CLAUSES 0x0] INTRODUCTION ; RESPONSIBILITIES => ) ==== ]

19:51

where was that link?

19:52

Download bundle: JSON | Raw << raw part

19:52

oic

19:53

bounce: no, it's complete bs. reading time does not depend on wordcount alone. or even taking word length into consideration. <<< seriously guise, this "reading time" thing is poppy.

19:53

putting footnotes in there so even the clueless can follow may work ? << lol! what next, footnotes for linux kernel so illiterates can understand? bitcoind? lev landau's 'mechanics' ?

19:54

ftr im against against.

19:54

bounce: footnotes are a major break in reading flow [...] <<< here's a tip&trick : hover pointer over footnote mark, there's a tooltip that loads it.

19:55

asciilifeform sure.

19:55

it'd be better than the current pretense of "we invented a new, easier one!"

19:55

nobody notices kakos headnotes.

19:55

"it doesn't work, and it's pretty stupid, but at least you know, ux!"

19:56

kakobrekla heads too big, hard to notice.

19:56

what would, e.g., herr landau, have accomplished, if he had to occupy himself with teaching arithmetic.

19:56

fwiw, i don't think the kakobrekla's and asciilifeform's of this world are the target audience for Qntra

19:56

cazalla: who, if it isn't a deep secret, is?

19:56

fine ill go back to coindesk.

19:56

cazalla: kakobrekla is the audience for everything

19:57

jurov: i propose if they don't get claimed in 14 days, then they get loaned to coinbr. <<< i think that's how brokers work anyway, minus the 14 days

19:57

*

asciilifeform a believer in 'last psychiatrist's theorem' - 'if yer reading it, it's for you'

19:57

asciilifeform not landau. later contributors can footnote it.

19:57

qntra doesn't make the news, it just footnotes it!

19:58

although maybe BingoBoingo's articles have more appeal to the sophisticated Qntra reader

19:59

qntra, american malls converting to data centers << obligatory >> http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2011/07/dead-souls.html

19:59

*

BingoBoingo thinks this is prolly the most qntra piece so far. http://qntra.net/2014/10/matonis-to-resign-from-vessenes-bitcoin-foundation/

19:59

punkman: would qntra like to sponsor a WP plugin that accepts signed posts and puts them in editor's queue? << it's not a bad idea on the face but the truth is that the pipeline is too finnicky and too dependent on handwork for it to be useful. yet.

20:00

signed posts << incidentally, this - plus a dose of wot - is the final thermonuclear pill against spam.

20:01

call it 'ninjashotgun.'

20:01

it seems to be working fine yes.

20:02

also good idea for solo blog and comments

20:02

so you can post with logging in or such

20:02

*without

20:02

screw logging in.

20:02

^

20:02

what's wrong with "you can just post"

20:03

box (or mail gate) that swallows signed ascii text. a la turdatron.

20:04

assbot: "Work sets you free" sign stolen: Dachau memorial robbed. <<< that thing gets stolen periodically.

20:04

poppy.< i dunno if poppy is good or bad (imma guess bad) but the diff between word count and reading time is the diff between 'df' and df -h'

20:05

*

asciilifeform wonders about the value of the pinched sign on the artcoin market

20:05

poppycock, ie, bad

20:05

yes totally bad to put it human companionable form

20:05

sux beyond vacuum

20:06

jesus autofail

20:06

cazalla: fivezerotwo wants 2 btc to stop lol <<< guy sounds a lot more like, he'd want to start above the grunt level, doesn't know how to ask but figures (correctly) that no matter how he'd ask he won't get it.

20:06

comprehendable is what i meant?

20:06

comprehensible.

20:07

see

20:07

like reprehensible, but with cunt instead of raep.

20:07

so reading this log, is trilema down or what.

20:08

not down for me.

20:08

no, bitbet is.

20:08

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxz8P7JA_Zo << re: 2btc

20:08

nubbins`: <@gmaxwell> nubbins`: blabla <<< how about we each do our part to keep idiocy cointained in -otc -dev and wherever else.

20:09

my domain name slave is sleeping unfortunately

20:09

and while i could call him up, eh.

20:10

what's the rush.

20:10

nubbins`: PinkPosixPXE don't knock .net, where else can you combine c-style code with visual basic in the same executable? :D <<< os/x ?

20:11

re: merkle tree - maybe in the future where we have 100 deeds per bundle, but it's already a hash tree so...

20:11

'We never pay any-one Dane-geld / No matter how trifling the cost; / For the end of that game is oppression and shame, / And the nation that pays it is lost!"'

20:11

*

punkman blows raspberry

20:11

;;isup log.bitcoin-assets.com

20:11

log.bitcoin-assets.com is up

20:12

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 128200 @ 0.00073227 = 93.877 BTC [+] {8}

20:12

punkman fatswell is an expert at the wikigame. how to say words that appear like they have substance.

20:15

punkbot: status

20:15

ben_vulpes: No pending deeds | Last bundle 2 hours and 31 minutes ago

20:15

punkbot: balance

20:15

ben_vulpes: Balance at 1LAwrWMbPLLSpt7nkD5Jv1Yf4cwPhD98ny is 0.0146 BTC (0.0 unconfirmed), enough for 132 more bundles.

20:15

!ping

20:15

scoopbot hello

20:16

artifexd

<kakobrekla> yes, someone requested to make a custom rss feed for []bot only for it not to be used << It will be. Just... not yet.

20:17

oki

20:19

https://blockchain.info/address/1FundZy7m7b8begbh9haCguKJcAdFopRJ9 << mega-lol.

20:19

Bitcoin Address 1FundZy7m7b8begbh9haCguKJcAdFopRJ9

20:20

*

asciilifeform not surprised, expected precisely this.

20:24

!up foo_nugget

20:24

punkbot: help

20:24

ben_vulpes: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. You may also want to use the 'list' command to list all available plugins and commands.

20:24

punkbot: list

20:24

...

20:25

punkbot list deedsystem

20:36

* asciilifeform not surprised, expected precisely this. << wouldja give a man a moment ? i gotta answer comments and whatnot!

20:39

lulzies

20:43

[trust-update] | removed: fivezerotwo

20:43

!s from:nubbins` pastebin.com

20:43

14 results for 'from:nubbins` pastebin.com' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from%3Anubbins%60+pastebin.com

20:44

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-02-2014#509702

20:44

Logged on 17-02-2014 00:11:53; asciilifeform: "came to drakula two catholic monks, from the hungarian lands, pittances to collect. he ordered them brought apart, and called up one, pointed to the yard, where one could see many sat upon stakes, or on wheels broken. he did ask: 'was i just? and who are these people, sitting on stakes?' answered the monk, 'no, lord, you do evil, killing without mercy; a lord must be merciful. and those sat upon the

20:44

^ re: fl4m3w4r in mircea_popescu's comments

20:46

asciilifeform you got a pointer to where you and nubbins` cut the book deal ?

20:46

more fivezerotwo garbage > http://dpaste.com/1QE0QRB

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dpaste: 1QE0QRB: fivezerotwo 2014-11-03, by PinkPosixPXE

20:46

mircea_popescu: url bug fixed, and there's the trust-list notification

20:46

search is being unfriendly.

20:46

essentially the same crap

20:46

punkbot loveya.

20:46

that was from earlier, but same as the threats you guys are getting, just threw it out there

20:46

ok Pho, bbl!

20:46

enjoe.

20:48

15:31 <fivezerotwo> these people have a world view that 99% of the populance are dumb morons < its not my fault :(

20:49

99% of the populace actually are dumb morons.

20:49

it'

20:49

s not a worldview.

20:53

kakobrekla: I have a gift for you

20:53

http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/from/kakobrekla/rss

20:53

deeds signed by kakobrekla

20:53

nowai, mp takes those away from me

20:58

who will step forward to claim responsibility for taking the deed faucet booty?

20:58

has someone, and i failed to notice?

20:58

I'm waiting for a bunch to be out there and then I am going to take them all at once

20:59

http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/from/nubbins%60 even nubbins` url works, success!

20:59

#bitcoin-assets deed registry

20:59

Maybe fivezerotwo waits a few years and he can scrape his ransom out of the deedbot bin?

20:59

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48500 @ 0.00073039 = 35.4239 BTC [-] {2}

21:00

punkman: what's the story with deed titles?

21:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2l7by9/new_bitcoin_deed_system_launches/cls7erz << someone missed the point

21:00

majorpaynei86 comments on New Bitcoin Deed System Launches

21:01

https://blockchain.info/address/1D4kG2YPA6WHnkVs57VJXsRkpEF2TNB6zP

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Bitcoin Address 1D4kG2YPA6WHnkVs57VJXsRkpEF2TNB6zP

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ben_vulpes, just add Deed_title: bla bla on a line

21:01

maybe I make that just Title: ?

21:01

"recordation"

21:01

yeeeeah

21:02

seems superfluous to me

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plus, imposing a structure on deeds is questionable

21:02

punkman: ^^

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*

ben_vulpes goes back to permutating an api that the clients didn't want to document

21:02

someone asked for it at some point

21:03

my favorite part of software is telling clients "no".

21:03

for some reason saying no is harder in -assets.

21:04

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16695 @ 0.0007295 = 12.179 BTC [-]

21:04

what happens if the document has more than one line with Title: on it?

21:05

PeterL: uses first match

21:07

bitbet is on the new boxen. if there is an emergency you can edit your hosts or wait couple of hours.

21:07

http://trilema.com/2014/the-bitcoin-foundation-finally-incorporated/

21:07

The Bitcoin Foundation finally incorporated! pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

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throw parseError("Don't fuck with me, assets")

21:09

good god mircea_popescu

21:09

hm ?

21:09

don't *do* that

21:09

what!

21:09

*

kakobrekla knew thats gonna happen

21:09

deed/9ULZPc7yeZ9fQEA1aZ73H6mcv1s2C4gYFAbNTb5urovj << urovj , that deed hash

21:10

https://blockchain.info/address/1FundZy7m7b8begbh9haCguKJcAdFopRJ9

21:10

Bitcoin Address 1FundZy7m7b8begbh9haCguKJcAdFopRJ9

21:10

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kakobrekla guessed the sum.

21:10

why not ?!

21:10

kakobrekla wd. punkman yeah lol i did a dbl take too.

21:10

i mean, it's fucking incredible, the guy's anagram? rly ?! but sig checked out so.

21:11

maybe we call him urovj from now on in memory of it.

21:11

vanity deeds! just append nonces until you get it

21:11

;;isup bitbet.us

21:11

bitbet.us is up

21:11

now he stops....

21:11

meh

21:12

you don't understand how the world works kakobrekla

21:12

clearly nobody does anymore

21:12

( i have been reading the logs)

21:12

!up eightyeight

21:12

the world is decentralised, so it no longer works!

21:16

<BingoBoingo> reddit << someone missed the point << yeah, tarddit continues to inhabit this delusion whereby what it thinks and understands matters and is important. for greater lulz!

21:17

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33100 @ 0.00073087 = 24.1918 BTC [+]

21:17

not having a reddit account helps me resist the occasional urge to educate them.

21:18

works for me 2.

21:18

meh i have put it back on the old box lol

21:19

I never saw the appeal of reddit, it's like having all the inane comments from newspaper sites, but without the article to read

21:19

do newspaper sites still get comments anymore ?

21:20

some do, but not anything useful as far as I've seen

21:20

<mircea_popescu> do newspaper sites still get comments anymore ? << Haven't seen any on the local papers recently, seems to have moved to Topix mostly, aka reddit for the poorer and stupider

21:21

21:21

ah on ze mirror

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o im in a bubble ?!

21:22

nm then

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no no that thing is hardcoded

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waits for my manual edit

21:22

hold on

21:23

http://xkcd.com/481/

21:23

http://qntra.net/2014/11/boost-vc-close-6-6-million-in-funding/

21:24

*

mircea_popescu tries to recall what boost supposedly did

21:25

aha, here is the one I was actually looking for: http://xkcd.com/1385/

21:25

kakobrekla listen, bitbetworks

21:25

mircea_popescu, "incubate" startups like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BA40yMept8c

21:25

wasn't it supposed not to work ?! wtf scam is this.

21:25

yes we have a problem

21:25

bitbetworks

21:26

<fivezerotwo> reddit killed digg, one of the fastest growing tech startups at that time <<< ahahhhaha o gawd.

21:26

log1 fixd

21:27

"digg decided to shoot itself in the head with web2.0, and reddit was one of the places that allowed child porn back then so here we are, hear us roar!"

21:27

mthreat

Bariloche photo of the day: https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t31.0-8/1522883_10105277724055560_3211410691125884834_o.jpg

21:27

all hail the b-a explorer!

21:27

now dont add anymore .ba services

21:27

or else imma have to recode that header

21:27

why not!

21:27

New post on Qntra.net by cazalla: http://qntra.net/2014/11/boost-vc-close-6-6-million-in-funding/

21:27

kik

21:27

mthreat

I can see why hitler came here after ww2

21:27

New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/the-bitcoin-foundation-finally-incorporated/

21:28

;;rate PeterL 1 author of scoopbot

21:28

Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user PeterL has been recorded.

21:28

nice to have that back.

21:28

is checking every 5 minutes a good timeframe you think?

21:29

sounds good.

21:29

PeterL: name of website is a bit redundant, also might be better with irc names instead of rss authors

21:30

right now it is pulling the author from the rss feed, to get irc nick would be a bit trickier

21:31

hard code it. you have to maintain the list of blogs anyway

21:31

it is also pulling the site title from the feed, it is not my fault they don't have a more interesting name for thier blog

21:32

author not in rss?

21:32

what rss is that?

21:32

just thinking it might be silly when it eventually says "by admin"

21:32

like a shitty one?

21:32

yes, author is in rss, but author in rss feed does not match irc nick

21:32

mike_c hardcode not worky. point is qntra has many contributors

21:33

yeah well fuck them

21:33

seems like the logs have been ddos'ed

21:33

I guess it could get the author from the rss, then compare it against a list of irc nicks?

21:33

yea looks like it decimation

21:33

and assbot stopped saying the names of linked pages

21:34

yes thats what happens under ddos

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point is qntra has many contributors << derp. oh yeah.

21:34

or else someone comes here, pastes a link he controls, gets the ip from behind cloak

21:35

I wonder if usg has attempted to jail someone for possessing a private rsa key that is directly linked with extortion?

21:35

http://i.imgur.com/AXiOs9q.png < are they telling me to go elsewhere?

21:35

have there been private rsa keys linked to extortion?

21:35

PeterL, shots fired!

21:36

punkbot sell price be their bid

21:36

who shot what?

21:36

cazella's linked pastebin strongly implied such

21:37

although to be fair, the link to the gpg key is a bit tenuous

21:37

PeterL, this "they don't have a more interesting name for thier blog", do you know we took almost 2 days to pick the name

21:37

I just mean the blog name is exactly the same as the url

21:38

even has the .net

21:38

if this was reddit, i would down vote you right now

21:40

seriously though, i always like how penguirker did it

21:41

which was just the link?

21:42

PeterL, it was like http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-10-2014#875299 but maybe others want more info, who knows

21:42

Logged on 15-10-2014 16:28:31; penguirker: New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/vietnam-prosecutors-reject-charging-bitcoin-traders/

21:42

hm so i was just notified by the reddit sec that there's no reddit police

21:42

and the reddit fbi confirmed.

21:43

i think we may have a case of http://www.watchcartoononline.com/cow-and-chicken-season-4-episode-4-mall-cop

21:43

and reddit nsa denied the whole thing.

21:43

https://www.quantcast.com/qntra.net does this means qntra dropped out of 200k?

21:43

<PeterL> is checking every 5 minutes a good timeframe you think? << yeah.

21:44

<decimation> seems like the logs have been ddos'ed << i see em ?

21:44

<cazalla> https://www.quantcast.com/qntra.net does this means qntra dropped out of 200k? << Never went under 200k yet

21:44

so the bitcoin foundation has an address, what do they do with the donated bitcoins?

21:44

cazalla: The rank is based on the last full month

21:46

;;isitdown logs.bitcoin-assets.com

21:46

PinkPosixPXE: did the scriptkiddies getcher aws account?

21:46

logs.bitcoin-assets.com is down

21:46

;;isitdown log.bitcoin-assets.com

21:46

log.bitcoin-assets.com is down

21:46

;;isitdown log1.bitcoin-assets.com

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log1.bitcoin-assets.com is up

21:46

ahok

21:46

PeterL whatever they feel like, basically.

21:47

buttcorns again, probably knowing the jackoffs involved.

21:47

mircea_popescu: have they stated anything they feel like doing yet?

21:47

i vaguely remember trying to lure testers maybe ?

21:49

so after watching Stierlitz, I surfed the wikipedia describing the NASDP government intelligence 4th department http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gestapo "According to Canadian historian Robert Gellately's analysis of the local offices established, the Gestapo was—for the most part—made up of bureaucrats and clerical workers who depended upon denunciations by citizens for their information.[78] Gellately argued that it was because of

21:49

the widespread willingness of Germans to inform on each other to the Gestapo that Germany between 1933 and 1945 was a prime example of panopticism."

21:49

lol i like cazalla's pastebin.

21:49

decimation this is factual.

21:49

so, really all you need to have a 'reign of terror' is to put a 'suggestion box' in front of the secret police office

21:50

all you need to have a reign of terror is to empower the bottom of the social hierarchy. it never fails.

21:50

be it the peasants in russia, or the derps in nazi germany, whenever the "common man" is taken from under the foot and put on the table trouble soon follows.

21:51

the us worked just fine, and definitely better than the entire rest of the world, BEFORE extending the franchise.

21:51

Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/22PXEMC.txt )

21:51

!b 4

21:51

yeah, if the NASDP leadership weren't fucktards, they would have put more emphasis on actual intelligence rather than harassing idiots

21:53

mircea_popescu: agreed. as I drive to work, I listen to that french revolution podcast, and they just covered the 'housewife army' that managed to dislodge Louis from Versailles

21:53

whenever "joe said" is not automatically followed by "oh yea ? and who the fuck is joe ?" the situation is already in the handbasked and moments away from hell.

21:53

19:46 #bitcoin-assets: <+ben_vulpes> PinkPosixPXE: did the scriptkiddies getcher aws account? << nope

21:53

:)

21:54

may be dropped about 10000 packets total, and did nothing as soon as I flipped my ip..

21:55

perhaps they decided going after 1 person wasn't enough for their e-peen-inflation

21:55

mircea_popescu: incorporated << neato. now nubbins` can bake tshirts!

21:56

but everything here is one single person or another.

21:56

asciilifeform lol what, tshirts with the charter ?

21:56

with sumthing.

21:57

how do tshirts help?

21:57

idk, but 10 btc would buy a good fat crate'o'em

21:57

wait a seccond. is lawsky the reddit supernintendo or the actual supernintendo ?

21:57

have we been fooled ?!

21:58

'attacking #bitcoin-assets for their comments on reddit, assault against basic income, and other crap' << l0l!!

21:58

there it is, 'basic income' again

21:58

is that 'a thing' now?

21:58

what else do you suppose keeps approximately-washed middle aged boys in shared apartments with internet access ?

21:59

i'd dearly love to know. where do i get some.

21:59

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asciilifeform has to do all kinds of gnarly things for his 'b4s1c 1nc0m3'

22:00

I guess some idiots on reddit have to be scam trolls to get their daily income...

22:00

Then, didn't they like demand 2BTC ?

22:00

idk, but 10 btc would buy a good fat crate'o'em < is this a protest of how unusable btc is to you or ?

22:01

kakobrekla: iirc you invented a way of using

22:01

wha?

22:01

how long can one run a kakobrekla on 10 btc ?

22:02

sadly i also need to convert to a more acceptable format

22:02

still

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asciilifeform: I recall that you were a proponent of 'guaranteed income'

22:03

decimation: nah, more like guaranteed cloister

22:03

ignoring the ridicule for having an iphone, i was going to write up this circle app but cannot because there is 2180 results for apps with the name circle and you must install ichunes to use the link to install :\

22:03

asciilifeform and to answer your question, a few months

22:03

cazalla lol problem solved.

22:03

kakobrekla is clean, environmentally-spiffy engine

22:03

first off, ridicule! second, how do you run an iphone without itunes anyway?

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kakobrekla has optimized his reoccurring costs quite a bit

22:04

asciilifeform: like, if you are unwilling to provide for yourself, the gov't will supply one small stone cell with three gruels per day?

22:04

decimation: where i live, they sorta do this already, but gotta be aryan

22:04

mike_c, what would i use ichunes with my iphone for?

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well i don't know what you'd use an iphone for at all. but i thought you needed itunes to install shit on it.

22:05

mike_c: the current pNohe is entirely usable without a computer.

22:06

mike_c, you can use the appstore and just upload your music, download pics via ftp provided it is broken

22:07

i guess you can use an iphone to impress the other girls at the party. gotta get a cute cover for it though.

22:07

asciilifeform: in Stierlitz, is it some kind of inside joke when they go through the 'personnel file' of every high ranking Nazi and they all say exactly the same thing?

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decimation: aha.

22:07

decimation: idea is, you can't play unless 'aryan, good nordic character'

22:07

decimation: so clearly, if you're in the game, that's you.

22:08

decimation: notice, 'baron von stierlitz' has the same in his file.

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of course. I feel like I started halfway in though, they keep mentioning his earlier exploits with V weapons and I seem to have missed that

22:09

mike_c, i thought it was the girls that like to impress with their phone, blinged up cases and all

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yes, the key to the joke was "the other girls"

22:10

stone cell with three gruels << notice a peculiar fact about various 'advanced' bezzlatron nations where one can get a nice flat and three fine restaurant meals a day. but, for some reason, the occupants of said flats are not coughing up any great advances in sciences, arts.

22:10

ergo, the sponsors are selective about who gets the cell and three gruels. in a very particular way.

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mike_c, matters not, sporting an old phone will just get you labelled as a hipster because the 3310 is vintage yo

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(only exception i know of re: 'not coughing up' was j. k. rowling, author of the children's book 'harry potter.' i wonder if they billed her for the pension retroactively...)

22:12

certainly works in brooklyn

22:12

i suppose ed limonov might be another exception.

22:13

either those who are rich in bezzlars are sitting on their brilliant inventions or the method by which one comes to hold bezzlars has little to do with productive activity

22:13

of course, there is the 'george boole' problem, as you point out in the comments

22:14

neh, the thread was, in some parts of the world one can get the 'three gruels and a cell', but very few of the folks subscribed have shat out anything worth talking about

22:17

asciilifeform: it is an odd fact that most 'upright' folks in the us would prefer to starve rather than depend on welfare, yet the same folks view their mortgage deductions as a birthright

22:17

decimation: outside of usa, there are misconceptions. it isn't like anyone can just go and sign up for 'welfare.'

22:18

if you aren't in the target demographics (not purely 'ethnic', but approximately for most purposes) it may as well be 'macarthur grant' or nobel, for all you'll ever see of it

22:19

<mircea_popescu> wait a seccond. is lawsky the reddit supernintendo or the actual supernintendo ? << scam, he's just one of those rpi based emulators made the chicoms

22:19

<asciilifeform> one can get a nice flat and three fine meals [...] not coughing up any great advances in arts. <<< yes, they are.

22:19

cocksucking's an art too you know.

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and afaik, most of 'homo redditicus' is not living from government pensions, but from relatives

22:20

and where do the relatives get it ?

22:20

same place i get it.

22:20

from tax breaks to deferring of college debt, it's all a gift.

22:20

<cazalla> ignoring the ridicule for having an iphone, i was going to write up this circle app but cannot because there is 2180 results for apps with the name circle and you must install ichunes to use the link to install :\ << sounds like a review in itself

22:21

the tax breaks mostly subsidize playing in chumpatrons like real estate

22:21

now to the massive task of documenting this deedsbot thing.

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(e.g., the 2k i pay landlord is 100% tax-free income for him)

22:23

jebus 2k rent?

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kakobrekla: aha.

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srsly.

22:23

kakobrekla: 'cheap' too.

22:24

unserious

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kakobrekla: Seriously plausible for a US coast.

22:24

yeah in ascii's area $2k for a house is cheap

22:24

significantly cheaper than mine..

22:24

mircea_popescu has it right re: the massive bezzle gifts, but notice that these aren't really handouts to the plebes - they only get to touch the money and feel warm inside for a few seconds, then they have to give it directly to real estate chumpmeisters or college racket

22:25

well of course.

22:25

kakobrekla unlike europe, the us is very poorly developed.

22:25

heh

22:26

not even kidding. you know that thing where you can't walk for 50 miles without ending up in a town, nor 10 miles without crossing a road ?

22:26

well... they ain't got that.

22:26

the 2k does not include other bezzles. e.g., auto, without which it is flatly impossible to buy edibles much less earn anything

22:26

and various insurances.

22:27

asciilifeform: I added all this up once, and came to the conclusion that every single person in the washington DC area must have an income of >$100k

22:27

which didn't seem right

22:28

punkbot list deedsystem

22:28

what is this supposed to do ?

22:28

decimation: every 'burgher' (see mircea_popescu's essay on the subject) - exactly right

22:28

but there are several categories of inhabitant who don't need money at all

22:29

unfortunately those categories are almost entirely membership-by-birth.

22:31

regarding birth, the ironic thing about wash dc is that the majority of these 'burghers' are holding gov't jobs, which are more-or-less sinecures for life

22:31

meanwhile they have kids, who also need to eat

22:32

those kids being the exact objects which the real estate/job-for-life chumpatrons must devour to sustain themselves

~ 15 minutes ~

22:47

<mircea_popescu> not even kidding. you know that thing where you can't walk for 50 miles without ending up in a town, nor 10 miles without crossing a road ? << True story, did that.

22:48

http://qntra.net/2014/11/commissioner-mark-wetjen-cftc-would-have-authority-to-bring-enforcement-actions-against/

22:52

New post on Qntra.net by cazalla: http://qntra.net/2014/11/commissioner-mark-wetjen-cftc-would-have-authority-to-bring-enforcement-actions-against/

22:53

beat you to it, scoopbot

22:53

o nice, scoopbot.

22:54

scooptbot request n00dz

22:54

lol so the wall street journal op-ed is where one makes usg policy now?

22:54

decimation: No, it's where USG policy used to be made

22:59

decimation: government jobs << in usa, everyone - at least, within a few steps of recursion - has a government job.

22:59

(see the canonical piece by 'last psychiatrics' re: one town where this was demonstrable to the naked eye.)

23:00

yeah, in the wash dc area it's just a little flatter I guess

23:00

that is, either works for usg, works for entity funded by usg, or works for a humble physical service (e.g. restaurant, plumber's shop) that is frequented by 1 and 2

23:00

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41888 @ 0.00072794 = 30.492 BTC [-] {5}

23:01

if you're a potato monger in idaho - usg funded.

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even if you only sell for gold dubloons and have never heard of farm subsidy.

23:02

of course 99% of farmers prefer to receive usg electronic transfers directly to their accounts

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aha.

23:02

but the point here is, the most humble tomato peddler at my local market - still usg funded.

23:03

yeah, this is true

23:03

for instance, he's still going to have to sell some gold to pay his land tax in dollars

23:03

(it blew my mind the other week when i noticed that these were being paid, by many folks in the crowd, with... something quite like actual monopoly money. issued by the state, it turned out, 'vegetable food stamps.' presumably these are redeemable for usd in some dark cellar at city hall.)

23:03

that fellow who lived under a stump or whatever might claim to be somewhat independent, but really he's just taking advantage of usg's lack landlordship

23:03

asciilifeform nope, they're not.

23:04

no ascii that's EBT

23:04

mircea_popescu: ?

23:04

they're not redeemable for usd.

23:04

wai wat

23:04

what're they redeemable for? veggies at neighbouring tables?

23:04

arse-mouth system?

23:04

asciilifeform tax receipts mostly.

23:05

you can't go plunk down a pile of em and get dollars in exchange.

23:05

you can't sell them to a guy down the street

23:05

etc.

23:05

*

asciilifeform floored

23:05

you recall when california paid its suppliers in ious

23:05

then REFUSED to take the same in exchange for tax receipts ?

23:05

the only innovation there is refusing to take them in exchange for the only thing they used to be good for.

23:06

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLTTX35LNJo

23:06

Chapter Jackson - It's Free Swipe Yo EBT (Explicit) - YouTube

23:06

ca should've been cut up and loaded onto slave ships long ago

23:07

but in reality, the place is a miniature r&d laboratory for usg bezzlatronics.

23:07

mircea_popescu: I've heard it's common practice to buy 'qualified' goods and sell on ebay for usd

23:07

mebbe, i dunno

23:07

aha like cc scammers.

23:07

punkman hey how does one download the bundle db ?

23:12

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/2012-05/D9UV7NDO0.htm

23:12

Food stamp fraud raising concerns in gov't offices - BusinessWeek

23:13

75 billion a year.

23:14

http://qntra.net/2014/11/court-order-bfl-to-transfer-bitcoins-to-court/ << USG shorting augmented

23:14

Court Order: BFL to transfer Bitcoins to Court | Qntra.net

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that comes to... brace yourselves... 250 bucks a year per capita.

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on food stamps alone

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mircea_popescu: misplaced a zero again?

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about 1/4 ton tomato paste in bulk

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there's also WIC http://www.fbi.gov/atlanta/press-releases/2014/fifty-four-defendants-charged-in-18-million-wic-and-food-stamp-fraud-conspiracy

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FBI — Fifty-Four Defendants Charged in $18 Million WIC and Food Stamp Fraud Conspiracy

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decimation yeah the mob's making a killing with it.

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i dunno why they keep playing it coy and oh, people.

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whats left in bfl, a few k btc?

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New post on Qntra.net by Bingo Boingo: http://qntra.net/2014/11/court-order-bfl-to-transfer-bitcoins-to-court/

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Court Order: BFL to transfer Bitcoins to Court | Qntra.net

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lol at the AKA's

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kakobrekla doubtful anything's left, fgor a year now

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I like how one arm of USG is threating anyone who has touched a bitcoin, while the other arm claims that they could not possibly investigate welfare fraud

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welfare fraud is good.

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' The order also gives the receiver authorization to convert the bitcoins "to cash on a systematic and reasoned basis."' << brace for waterfall.

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i have enough of this waterboarding :p

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well, welfare fraud definitely serves some purpose, otherwise usg would 'investigate' it

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decimation lemme illustrate the point with a humorous story.

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http://www.27bslash6.com/massanutten.html

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Massanutten. Water slides, mini-golf and bears.

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the part where he says "Regardless of whether you waive the fine or not, and despite conditional terms added to reassert authority"

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New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/the-bitcoin-assets-deed-system/

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The #bitcoin-assets deed system pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

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just as long as you agree to move your sustenance to stealing from the government, the government won.

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you're still depending on it, whether you like it or not.

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it doesn't care if you fight "for" or "against" it, just as long as your fight is ~about~ it.

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on it goes.

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there's a good reason http://trilema.com/2014/how-to-deal-with-pseudoscience/ comes up with "ignore it" not with "debunk it" or "use it" or w/e else.

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lol I've stayed at massanutten

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asciilifeform 'private key for the confirmatory transaction' << misread as 'the crematory transaction'

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lol

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massanutten is kind of a weird retirement area/resort for the wash dc area

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for people who are not creative enough to find a more amusing place to live than a hill in rural Virginia

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lol "That looks like a dog with a blanket on it. I'm not going to waste anyones time sending an officer out to check that. "

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this guy is strong with the art of troll

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"ignore it" not with "debunk it" or "use it" << ignoring herr lysenko is best done from across an ocean.

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although even this no longer suffices.

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seems like they don't make oceans wide enough, any more.

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so the anarcho-tyranny that 'upstanding citizens' complain about is really just two sides of the same customer service counter

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the stick, for those who are willing to yield, the carrot for those who are willing to eat

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right.

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people generally are slaves. this holds true irrespective of what the fashionable slavegarb is at any point.

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<asciilifeform> "ignore it" not with "debunk it" or "use it" << ignoring herr lysenko is best done from across an ocean. << the internet is an ocean.

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Oh, we also beat coinfire to the BFL story

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By about 20 minutes

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wd!

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https://twitter.com/BBoingo/status/529494297117487104 << Calling them out

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Court in the /ButterflyLabs case has ordered for some of the co bitcoins to be moved to a court wallet & to be sold: https://t.co/7nxuZcdG7t

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Since we were firsted the link http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&type=submission&id=3955937

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