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00:00 BingoBoingo !up devthedev
00:00 devthedev I love this president
00:05 BingoBoingo lol
00:05 BingoBoingo So did he really say learn English and go to the back of the line?
00:06 BingoBoingo !up Blazedout419
00:06 BingoBoingo !up Blazedout420
00:09 asciilifeform is that why you flip them vertically << ideally they'd all be vertical. nothing to do with angle, you've the causality reversed.
00:12 decimation because vertical real estate is more useful than horizontal?
00:13 asciilifeform aha.
00:13 asciilifeform the array, naturally, is shaped a little like a titanic horizontal display (to match visual field of eyes)
00:14 asciilifeform but you can't get the solid equivalent
00:14 asciilifeform (not even for $maxint. where do you get bent display?)
00:15 asciilifeform and i seriously don't get people who suggest 'use tv'. are they using computer with tv? if not, why not? and why eager to suggest to others.
00:15 decimation tvs have terrible resolution
00:15 decimation I use tv for computer display
00:15 decimation but it's in the living room and is a media computer
00:16 BingoBoingo http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/officers-again-make-arrests-at-protest-outside-ferguson-police-hq/article_de7daf03-5747-5a9f-88e8-e64c548be7aa.html
00:16 assbot Officers again make arrests at protest outside Ferguson police HQ : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1xYbipN )
00:16 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: TV has use cases
00:16 asciilifeform not involving computer.
00:16 asciilifeform or text
00:17 punkman ;;google lg curved monitor
00:17 gribble LG 34UC97-S: 34" Class 21:9 UltraWide™ WQHD IPS Curved LED ...: <http://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-34UC97-S-ultrawide-monitor>; LG 34UC97-S 34" UltraWide QHD Curved LED Backlit LCD Monitor: <http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1083446-REG/lg_34uc97_s_34_3440x1440_ips_curved.html>; LG 34UC97 34" Curved LCD Monitor - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcaktV1iiGk>
00:17 asciilifeform yes, there was a time when we have 'commodore 64' or 'bk-0010' and tv out, and that was it.
00:17 devthedev See everyone in a week
00:17 mircea_popescu not since the z80 days anywya
00:17 BingoBoingo devthedev: Where you headed, Cuba?
00:18 devthedev https://twitter.com/DevinSenaUI/status/534733650349535233
00:18 assbot I'm taking pictures in some sweet places next week! Saturday- Ft. LauderdaleMonday- HaitiTuesday- JamaicaThursday- MexicoSunday- Miami
00:18 asciilifeform punkman: if that thing came in a double-height variant i'd buy
00:19 BingoBoingo http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/ferguson-officer-s-lawyer-union-official-say-ap-story-on/article_214c7eee-5729-5b2a-bf1c-a16a0f17cb68.html << latest on whether spark meets tinder
00:19 assbot Ferguson officer's lawyer, union official, say AP story on grand jury confidence was misleading : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1xU9oW4 )
00:19 asciilifeform except i'd probably end up throwing it through a wall on account of vibrating pixels
00:20 BingoBoingo devthedev: If you ever want practice killing people, Mexico is prolly the place to do it. Huge security issues, but they'll never mention it
00:22 decimation asciilifeform: yeah most 'hdtv' 'monitors' use all kinds of downsampling/downconversion tricks
00:22 asciilifeform afaik everything presently on the market, with exception of eizo's 'colour-edge' series, uses dithering.
00:23 asciilifeform (vs. none whatsoever 6 yrs. ago!)
00:23 asciilifeform iirc we spoke of this here at least once.
00:23 BingoBoingo Plasma TV I think of considering this problem was acquired 8 years ago
00:23 asciilifeform fuck dithering hard, with red hot poker.
00:24 * asciilifeform can see the led blinkers on cars in traffic, which 'no one can see', it's a torment
00:24 BingoBoingo Eh, these candles warming the room dither
00:24 asciilifeform the pulse flicker thereof, rather
00:24 decimation dithering works great if you want to suppress spurs on an adc
00:25 asciilifeform works great for folks who have properly slow retina
00:25 BingoBoingo There are reasons I drink.
00:26 * asciilifeform has somewhat perverse senses. for example, 'amazon kindle' is fairly loud to him when flipping pages.
00:26 asciilifeform (model 'dx' with the rev. 2 black chassis, if anyone wants to compare notes)
00:26 asciilifeform inductor hiss.
00:29 decimation I definite hear something when I flip mine but I think I have the smaller model
00:30 asciilifeform aha so not only me!
00:30 BingoBoingo !up Vexual
00:31 BingoBoingo I think the efficent problem at the moment is that no one but foxconn makes anything anymore
00:31 decimation inductor microphonics are the bane of anyone trying to make a very stable rf circuit
00:36 BingoBoingo I listen to AM radio all of the time, but I'm still not sure I believe in stable RF circuits
00:36 asciilifeform like 'stable' governments, or marriages, the stability spoken of here is comparative.
00:36 Vexual I can see tailights flicker
00:37 asciilifeform there we go.
00:37 * asciilifeform not the only mutant!
00:37 BingoBoingo https://www.xkcd.com/1450/
00:37 assbot xkcd: AI-Box Experiment ... ( http://bit.ly/1xYdihM )
00:37 Vexual I also know when my favourite song is on the radio tho
00:37 BingoBoingo Wait, are tail lights not supposed to flicker?
00:37 decimation asciilifeform: have you ever had one of those occupational hearing tests?
00:37 Vexual no, theyre not
00:38 asciilifeform decimation: occupational, no, but did as a child. passed.
00:38 asciilifeform afaik they're built to detect deaf folks, rather than insufficiently deaf
00:39 decimation I've had a few as adult, and I found that I passed if I breathed through my mouth - breathing through my nose was too noisy
00:39 mats_cd03 yes, they suck. i am partially deaf due to too many explosions without earpro
00:39 BingoBoingo What's next? The power led on the laptop isn't supposed to blink at F2#
00:39 mats_cd03 i can still hear the beeps ... of other participants, even. the test doesn't measure intensity afaik
00:42 mircea_popescu <decimation> I've had a few as adult, and I found that I passed if I breathed through my mouth - breathing through my nose was too noisy <<< if breathing through your nose is noisy you should prolly have it fixed
00:43 decimation yeah, actually I've been told I have a deviated septum
00:43 decimation but the point is that apparently it sets a 'noise floor' for low lever signals
00:43 Vexual do a beat box
00:46 Vexual when ledtailights flicker, you can almost see which way the calbing runs
00:46 assbot Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0CEQ2ZX.txt )
00:46 BingoBoingo !b 1
00:48 Vexual audi and toyota use different drivers
00:49 decimation some cars in the us have a 'flicker' mechanism built into the tail lights which I find highly annoying
00:51 BingoBoingo !up angles
00:51 Vexual i like my flasher under the dash
00:52 Vexual that way i've got a story ready for when i get pulled over
00:53 Vexual "yeah I know it's borked..."
00:54 Vexual 6v stuffs always blowing, it's the amplitude modulations, see?
00:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52800 @ 0.00042835 = 22.6169 BTC [-] {2}
00:55 Vexual sir, this is a prime mover.
00:55 Vexual ciao
00:56 Vexual *crunch*
00:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7407 @ 0.00042831 = 3.1725 BTC [-]
01:00 Vexual must be the voltage regulator
01:02 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/the-gui-the-twerk-and-the-most-valuable-resource/
01:02 assbot The GUI, the twerk and the most valuable resource pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1z0EHhr )
01:02 mircea_popescu you get to guess the op.
01:03 asciilifeform l0l
01:10 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: re: nurse's article: http://www.bards.ru/archives/part.php?id=15568 << obligatory. vysotsky's 'doctor reanimator.'
01:10 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1AqTXbB )
01:15 mircea_popescu somehow not on http://www.kulichki.com/vv/eng/songs/
01:15 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1AqUXMN )
01:15 asciilifeform not 1 in 10 has a known english
01:18 decimation Liberté, égalité, fraternité!
01:22 mircea_popescu lol
01:24 mircea_popescu !up MykelSIlver
01:30 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: 'Girl under a train - they sometimes fumble, / She might cry hysterically, or no; / You can hear Reanimator mumble: / 'Please give up your ghost, my dearest, go!' / Lifetime as a cripple? Who will feed you? / Even could I do a bloody thing? / Tell me, dearest, who you think will need you, / Without legs, and without everything?' << approx. partial transl.
01:30 mircea_popescu who fumbles and what's that mean ?
01:31 mircea_popescu like, derpy chick falls by accident ?
01:31 asciilifeform ehe
01:31 asciilifeform or 'accident'
01:31 * asciilifeform might write a real translation if he were awake, sober, and anyone gave half a damn
01:31 mircea_popescu actually 4 way amputee chicks is a shiockingly large fetish
01:33 asciilifeform 4 way plus their 'everything's?
01:33 mircea_popescu http://img.chan4chan.com/img/2011-07-30/1311996360899.jpg
01:33 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1AqYAlK )
01:34 asciilifeform cock-arms ?
01:34 asciilifeform (or just plain thalidomide ? experts, chime in)
01:34 mircea_popescu that's the flipper arms thalidomide brought about
01:34 asciilifeform aha, guessed as much
01:34 mircea_popescu in other news, the chan4chan webiste donation address ? https://blockchain.info/address/1KaHdHYgYUDUYuMYCXLu83gXuniZMiSMhb
01:34 assbot Bitcoin Address 1KaHdHYgYUDUYuMYCXLu83gXuniZMiSMhb ... ( http://bit.ly/1AqYTNJ )
01:35 mircea_popescu collected 0.101 btc in its lifetime. all of which in 2013.
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02:05 notary Confirmed bundle 18xnKTfE with 1 deed | http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/bundle/18xnKTfEe8bQRu5Qh8mvPte1wPFeXQ55az
02:05 assbot Bundle 18xnKTfE | #bitcoin-assets deed registry ... ( http://bit.ly/1uhyGso )
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03:23 mircea_popescu http://qntra.net/2014/11/us-department-of-justice-kim-dotcom-cant-challenge-asset-forfiture/ < BingoBoingo it's spelled "forfeiture" you know.
03:23 assbot US Department of Justice: Kim Dotcom can't challenge asset forfiture | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1xIMNyb )
03:25 mircea_popescu http://www.10news.com/news/rapper-tiny-doo-will-go-to-trial_
03:25 assbot Rapper Tiny Doo will go to trial, judge decides - 10News.com KGTV ABC10 San Diego ... ( http://bit.ly/1z1e6kk )
03:25 mircea_popescu "Though Duncan hasn't been tied to the shootings, prosecutors argued that he benefited from the shootings because his gang gained in status, allowing him to sell more albums."
03:25 mircea_popescu this is so fucking out there....
03:26 mircea_popescu here's a thought : preet bharara benefited from the shootings, because HIS gang gained in status, allowing him to sell more whatever the fucks he's selling.
03:26 mircea_popescu he should be in jail with duncan.
03:26 mircea_popescu "We're not just talking about a CD of anything, of love songs. We're talking about a CD (cover) … there is a revolver with bullets," said Deputy District Attorney Anthony Campagna.
03:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28003 @ 0.00041998 = 11.7607 BTC [-]
03:29 mircea_popescu in other news, qntra seems to look pretty good : http://browsershots.org/http://qntra.net/
03:29 assbot Page not found | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1xINHLd )
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03:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53575 @ 0.000422 = 22.6087 BTC [+]
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04:20 cazalla mircea_popescu, fixed typo so dw BingoBoingo
04:21 mircea_popescu coo
04:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26050 @ 0.00042813 = 11.1528 BTC [+]
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04:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35123 @ 0.00042813 = 15.0372 BTC [+]
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05:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53750 @ 0.00041992 = 22.5707 BTC [-] {3}
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05:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20904 @ 0.00043091 = 9.0077 BTC [+] {2}
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06:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29800 @ 0.00041861 = 12.4746 BTC [-]
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07:06 cazalla http://qntra.net/2014/11/ben-bernanke-mervyn-king-share-their-thoughts-on-bitcoin/
07:06 assbot Ben Bernanke & Mervyn King Share Their Thoughts On Bitcoin | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1vvO9MF )
07:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 14 @ 0.09700427 = 1.3581 BTC [+] {8}
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08:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00041451 = 6.2591 BTC [-]
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08:35 davout http://fr.anco.is/2014/11/21/x-eur-november-20th-2014-statement/
08:35 assbot X.EUR November 20th 2014 statement | fr.anco.is ... ( http://bit.ly/1yyosYT )
08:40 davout pankkake disappeared, and with him penguirker :/
08:43 jurov there's supposed to be scoopbot
08:43 jurov ;;seens scoopbot
08:43 gribble Error: "seens" is not a valid command.
08:43 jurov ;;seen scoopbot
08:43 gribble scoopbot was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 0 days, 8 hours, 7 minutes, and 14 seconds ago: <scoopbot> New post on Qntra.net by Bingo Boingo: http://qntra.net/2014/11/isis-introduces-coins/
08:44 jurov :/
08:45 BingoBoingo scoopbot has growing pains
08:46 jurov did he too broke his penis or what?
08:47 BingoBoingo Maybe?
09:02 davout i wonder if the broken cock dude's friends will visit him in the hospital and write their names on his cast
09:06 BingoBoingo There's always the chance
09:06 BingoBoingo !up berndj
09:17 jurov we all should visit him. so that he knows we are really serious
09:18 jurov that we aren't making fun of him
09:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 482 @ 0.00215408 = 1.0383 BTC [-] {7}
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09:54 mats_cd03 #b-a trip? i'll rent a van.
09:56 mats_cd03 we can go to the beach, do a pub crawl, discuss world domination, scribble on a man's dong cast... it'll be great
10:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44650 @ 0.0004336 = 19.3602 BTC [+]
10:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33604 @ 0.00043438 = 14.5969 BTC [+] {2}
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10:23 xanthyos hello kids. i'm on drugs.
10:24 xanthyos still not allowed to bathe
10:24 BingoBoingo Probably best to follow those instruction
10:25 xanthyos https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2-BRhjIgAAhCPP.jpg
10:25 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1xVToDb )
10:33 davout "hello kids. i'm on drugs." <<< saying hi like a boss
10:34 xanthyos the one positive aspect of having a broken penis is having an excuse to show it to people on webcam in a non-perverted medical way. so they can all see how big i am
10:34 assbot Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2R5DB6Q.txt )
10:34 BingoBoingo !b 1
10:34 xanthyos and i can get away with that without bragging
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11:08 ben_vulpes i had a nightmare about cracking my cock
11:09 TomServo Well I'm still chuckling about you flapping your hands, if its any consolation.
11:23 xanthyos really ben
11:23 xanthyos ben_vulpes: i got into your subconscious?
11:24 * asciilifeform waits for one of you folks to write an updated 'the nutcracker' opera
11:25 assbot Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3D6FCZM.txt )
11:25 BingoBoingo !b 1
11:25 xanthyos or a sequel
11:25 xanthyos thankfully my testicles are still large and in charge
11:25 xanthyos free dna for girls!
11:25 xanthyos queue up
11:32 xanthyos about to buy
11:32 xanthyos i have 1.24 btc currently and i'm going to buy .76 to push me to 2.0
11:32 xanthyos coinbase ~356ish
11:33 xanthyos yes i'm drugged up, i hope my judgment isn't impaired
11:33 xanthyos normally too afraid to buy
11:33 asciilifeform ;;later tell mircea_popescu https://twitter.com/ecb/status/535781717760811008
11:33 assbot Following publication of legal act on the implementation of the ABS purch. programme, the Eurosystem has started the purchases on 21/11/2014
11:33 gribble The operation succeeded.
11:35 asciilifeform and, https://www.bullionstar.com/blog/koos-jansen/the-netherlands-has-repatriated-122-5t-gold-from-us
11:35 assbot The Netherlands Has Repatriated 122.5t Gold From US ... ( http://bit.ly/11CIdmX )
11:35 asciilifeform why nl gets to and de not ?
11:35 * asciilifeform not expert
11:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31300 @ 0.00044201 = 13.8349 BTC [+]
11:37 asciilifeform and did it even happen.
11:37 * asciilifeform wasn't there, didn't move it
11:37 TomServo Article claims de will be, over 8 years
11:38 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-02-2014#511736 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-02-2014#511737
11:38 assbot Logged on 17-02-2014 20:07:33; asciilifeform: stalin, during famous party plenum, re: spanish civil war gold:
11:38 assbot Logged on 17-02-2014 20:07:46; asciilifeform: 'these fellows won't see it again like they won't see their ears [without mirror].]
11:42 xanthyos Success! Your purchase completed successfully.
11:42 xanthyos 0.76 BTC will arrive in your My Wallet account on Friday Nov 28, 2014.
11:42 xanthyos coinbase purchases are better for btc than otc because they are made on low volume exchanges and are more likely to spike the price
11:43 xanthyos i just hope i'm not a sucker, i was a bitcoin denier for years until i got backdoored into it through my interest in getting around the internet poker ban
11:43 xanthyos i am so high you guys
11:44 xanthyos i shoudlnt' be shopping
11:44 xanthyos BingoBoingo: what store is your local wamart, i'm buying you some christmas mittens
11:44 xanthyos walmart*
11:47 BingoBoingo xanthyos: You don't need to worry about that.
11:53 mircea_popescu asciilifeform what about it ?
11:54 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: wondered if actually 'news' or smoke.
11:55 mircea_popescu well, the embargo on russia is working
11:55 mircea_popescu on the eu.
11:55 asciilifeform lol
11:55 mircea_popescu no but im serious.
11:56 * asciilifeform knows. or at least, observes ru press gloating
11:57 mircea_popescu the ru press aside, the english fuckwits are fucking incredible.
11:57 mircea_popescu all autumn they spent in this "o noes, bombama put teh hurts on putin!111"
11:58 mircea_popescu which, you know, back when putin was merely pissing in the guy's mouth at public meetings, hey, i guess it's what people do, make this type of false claims.
11:58 mircea_popescu sports press fulla it, especially if you count wrestling as a sport.
11:58 mircea_popescu but as soon as fucking novemver rolled around, it's not even winter yet, the eu is already soft like the average penis of the average european
11:59 mircea_popescu them being on average 55 yo or some shit
11:59 mircea_popescu and yet, nobody, and i mean NOBODY comes out with the fucking obvious.
11:59 asciilifeform then, as in all cases, 'the obvious' will have to eat them for lunch.
11:59 mircea_popescu what is wrong with these people! give them some technology award, this cultish idiocy is unheard of.
12:02 mircea_popescu you'd expect you know, as much as a "hey, maybe this embargo thing is actually fucking eu more than ru"
12:02 mircea_popescu how, it boggles the mind. how is this not even entertained.
12:02 mircea_popescu i mean these are all idiots with pretenses. they wear fucking suits and ties.
12:03 mircea_popescu they keep supposed wives, have what they refer to as their children.
12:03 mircea_popescu why even bother with all the pretense ? if you're going to do THIS sort of thing, why even bother dress ? eat fucking roadkill, go around screaming and tossing garbage, what fucking difference does it make.
12:07 punkman girl worked hotel reception in the summer, all the russians were calling in saying they needed proof vacation was booked before embargo otherwise they weren't allowed to get on plane.
12:07 mircea_popescu i suppose what im saying, in the end, is that i absolutely don't see any connection between the noises coming out of europe currently and the european tradition.
12:07 mircea_popescu might as well be the greater congo masquerading as europe.
12:08 mircea_popescu punkman duh.
12:10 mircea_popescu the eu just got proclaimed illegitimate wholesale o.O
12:14 mats_cd03 xanthyos: might wanna hold off in the event of waterfall following nov 28
12:14 punkman mats_cd03: black friday?
12:15 mats_cd03 yeah.
12:16 mircea_popescu fwiw the november thing is mostly bull, esp in btc.
12:16 mircea_popescu buncha redditors get excited, make donations of fiddy picocents
12:17 punkman always found these shops curious, trying to sell furs in a place that doesn't get cold http://www.vossfurs.com/media/1087/Hersonissos1.jpg
12:17 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1vwEbe7 )
12:17 mircea_popescu davout: i wonder if the broken cock dude's friends will visit him in the hospital and write their names on his cast <<< well, mebbe their gfs.
12:18 mircea_popescu punkman it's a luxury thing tho.
12:18 mircea_popescu anyway, very nicely done shop.
12:19 punkman there's a ton of these shops, wonder how many went under this year
12:19 mircea_popescu half ?
12:19 BingoBoingo Tales of Jaundiced Pooh horror http://www.croatiantimes.com/news/Around_the_World/2014-11-19/36417/Half_Naked_Winnie_The_Pooh_Banned_From_Playground_
12:19 assbot Half Naked Winnie The Pooh Banned From Playground - Around the World News - Croatian Times Online News - English Newspaper ... ( http://bit.ly/1vwEu8D )
12:20 BingoBoingo One official is heard saying: "It doesn’t wear underpants because it doesn’t have a sex. It’s a hermaphrodite."
12:20 punkman lol
12:20 mircea_popescu asciilifeform: why nl gets to and de not ? <<< because nl is not a fucking ally, and was not defeated in ww2.
12:21 BingoBoingo She said: "This is very disturbing but can you imagine! The author was over 60 and cut his [Pooh's] testicles off with a razor blade because he had a problem with his identity."
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12:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34700 @ 0.00044479 = 15.4342 BTC [+] {2}
12:46 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: nl is nato colony however
12:46 mircea_popescu apparently not.
12:47 asciilifeform http://www.nato.int/multi/mapgame/public/index.html << lol, nato has www games.
12:47 assbot NATO Map Game ... ( http://bit.ly/1r5kin3 )
12:48 asciilifeform somebody should 'helpfully' replace it with 'risk'
12:49 mircea_popescu lol
12:49 asciilifeform http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/news_114902.htm << mega-lol
12:49 assbot NATO - News: Largest ever NATO cyber defence exercise gets underway, 18-Nov.-2014 ... ( http://bit.ly/1r5kDGu )
12:50 asciilifeform whether nl is colony, they will know when they drill the bars, assuming they do.
12:50 asciilifeform and assuming bars moved
12:52 mircea_popescu bars moved, an' im sure they're drilling.
12:59 asciilifeform http://klikki.fi/adv/wordpress.html (via diametric)
12:59 assbot Klikki Oy - WordPress 3 Persistent Script Injection ... ( http://bit.ly/1r5mQS5 )
13:01 punkman they still can't sanitize HTML?
13:01 punkman ffs
13:03 mircea_popescu 3.x lol
13:04 punkman but not to worry! we can now push code to your WP installation at will!
13:05 mircea_popescu heh. also 3.x
13:10 BingoBoingo Is qntra a 500 internal server error for anyone else?
13:10 BingoBoingo http://qntra.net/2014/11/netherlands-repatriates-some-gold/
13:10 assbot 404 Not Found ... ( http://bit.ly/1p6h5rM )
13:10 punkman that redirected me to http://go.away/
13:10 xanthyos yes
13:10 punkman homepage worked though
13:11 TomServo both working here
13:11 xanthyos dns fail
13:11 xanthyos not 404
13:11 teward ^
13:13 mircea_popescu uh.
13:13 mircea_popescu as per usual, i see all fine ?
13:16 BingoBoingo http://dpaste.com/1TR5XZ9 << Sometimes it works, other times this
13:16 assbot dpaste: 1TR5XZ9 ... ( http://bit.ly/1p6ileh )
13:17 mircea_popescu hm.
13:20 mircea_popescu asciilifeform well if nothing else that advisory thing is useful because it explais how to turn off the idiotic "html texturizing" wp been doing
13:21 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo are you actually seeing it with any sort of frequency ? or was transient ?
13:21 BingoBoingo It happened a few times all right after making the latest post
13:22 mircea_popescu well say if you see more.
13:24 BingoBoingo Will do
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13:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53300 @ 0.00044624 = 23.7846 BTC [+] {2}
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14:20 BingoBoingo ;;ticker
14:20 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 356.52, Best ask: 356.77, Bid-ask spread: 0.25000, Last trade: 357.26, 24 hour volume: 15754.98265088, 24 hour low: 342.05, 24 hour high: 362.0, 24 hour vwap: 352.203846856
14:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HASH] 1862 @ 0.00080029 = 1.4901 BTC [+] {6}
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14:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60650 @ 0.00045087 = 27.3453 BTC [+] {2}
14:43 asciilifeform http://pastebin.com/ZNvYKUiC << mega-lol from #b-wizzards
14:43 assbot megalol - Pastebin.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1tnr7Ak )
14:47 asciilifeform ^ that channel appears to be besieged by obnoxious crackpots, and they're starting to talk of #b-a-esque voice controls
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15:06 mircea_popescu asciilifeform well if you're gonna copy something, gotta copy the lot neh ?
15:07 asciilifeform leads to the question of - why the schism
15:07 * asciilifeform doesn't know the story
15:07 mircea_popescu the idiots preexisted. we're the new thing here.
15:07 mircea_popescu the skism is unavoidable : they don't fit here, and know they don't. they can't admit they're idiots, and so they';re stuck
15:07 mircea_popescu copying the voice or w/e.
15:07 asciilifeform 'wizards' is recent, but does contain several known hooligans, yes
15:08 mircea_popescu i thought that's what you were asking about.
15:08 * asciilifeform has been reading it, on and off, because there are two or three thinking folks in there who occasionally discuss maths/crypto
15:08 * asciilifeform wondered why there, and not here
15:09 asciilifeform kanzure, fluffypony, a few others i think
15:11 asciilifeform *or rather, why they do it there vs here
15:14 mircea_popescu ;;seen kanzure
15:14 gribble kanzure was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 weeks, 6 days, 22 hours, 14 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: <kanzure> did he claim that his property rights were violated, or that the owner's property rights were violated?
15:15 mircea_popescu mebbe it's context dependant.
15:18 BingoBoingo !up Stocker
15:18 Stocker thk
15:20 BingoBoingo So what brings you around these parts?
15:22 mircea_popescu who're you Stocker ?
15:22 Stocker ?
15:22 Stocker trader and you
15:23 mircea_popescu same i guess.
15:23 rithm i'm a part-time Stalker
15:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27090 @ 0.00044508 = 12.0572 BTC [-]
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15:41 kanzure asciilifeform: because i don't want to setup a pgp user agent with my irc client
15:42 mats_cd03 https://www.dropbox.com/sh/bkfajegn2mn35ng/AABm_RyD4x9VLzYjI9n9Dl2Wa hardware assisted virtualization in AV software
15:42 assbot Dropbox - zn_0x4 ... ( http://bit.ly/1uOb4ky )
15:47 BingoBoingo http://qntra.net/2014/11/us-department-of-justice-kim-dotcom-cant-challenge-asset-forfeiture/#comment-1875 << Apparently traffic is not all DDoS and this chan
15:47 assbot 404 Not Found ... ( http://bit.ly/1uObqr7 )
15:50 TomServo pretty cool. Anybody read his stuff?
15:55 BingoBoingo I haven't
15:55 BingoBoingo Dunno who he is
15:55 asciilifeform kanzure: afaik most of us here use hand-cranked pgp
15:55 TomServo Well the name in the qntra post links to: http://www.amazon.com/Philip-Mullan/e/B00IC5R90Y/
15:55 assbot Amazon.com: Philip Mullan: Books, Biography, Blog, Audiobooks, Kindle ... ( http://bit.ly/1uObSFO )
15:55 punkman http://www.dgcmagazine.com/dgc-founder-discusses-his-new-book-the-digital-currency-challenge/
15:55 assbot DGC Founder Discusses His New Book, The Digital Currency Challenge | DGC ... ( http://bit.ly/1uObSFS )
15:56 TomServo Assuming it's the same dude? idk.
15:56 asciilifeform kanzure: (no irc client plugins or anything of the kind)
15:56 punkman he used to run that DGC magazine
16:00 punkman http://www.dgcmagazine.com/silentvault-launches-aims-silence-blockchain/
16:00 assbot SilentVault launches aiming to 'silence the blockchain' - DGC | DGC ... ( http://bit.ly/1uOcb3B )
16:00 kanzure asciilifeform: that sounds awful
16:01 kanzure i'm not gonna sit around like a jackass sending signed messages to gribble all the time
16:01 asciilifeform kanzure: it takes me all of 5 minutes to auth, and i do it every other week or so (when isp disconnects for a spell)
16:01 TomServo it's really not a big deal.
16:01 kanzure 5 minutes to auth?
16:02 kanzure you have a very high tolerance
16:02 asciilifeform 5 minutes max
16:02 asciilifeform most of it spent with [censored] rather than on anything particular to 'gribble'
16:03 asciilifeform any reasonable person keeps his key [censored] in [censored]
16:05 mircea_popescu kanzure generally the way i use it is hit a curl http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/8A736F0E2FB7B452|gpg and feed it my pw
16:06 assbot 404 Not Found ... ( http://bit.ly/1oY7SBR )
16:06 mircea_popescu then paste the result. it's maybe 30 seconds. but yeah, i guess, a hassle.
16:06 mircea_popescu !up Molt
16:07 asciilifeform thing is, a fellow who doesn't 'believe in' or like pgp, and doesn't care for the guarantees proper use provides, can automate up to a hundred percent of the process
16:07 asciilifeform but he should not be surprised later.
16:08 mircea_popescu anyway, how did that theory go, it's a balancing act.
16:08 mircea_popescu but there's your answer at any rate : voice model chills speech. this includes some speech you didn't apparently want chilled.
16:09 asciilifeform hell, some apparently clever folks (taleb?) can't even be bothered to dredge up a computer, or figure out 'irc' - so, no amount of free voice will help.
16:09 * punkman wonders how many people in the WoT use airgapped gpg to auth
16:10 asciilifeform punkman: generally there is very little to be gained by telling other people anything re: where and how you keep your key.
16:11 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/the-wisdom-of-crowds-apparently-it-mostly-depends-on-the-crowds-in-question/#comment-110072 o look, there's a debate.
16:11 assbot The wisdom of crowds. Apparently, it mostly depends on the crowds in question. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1uOcHOW )
16:11 BingoBoingo Especially don't tell people where you keep your private key if it is derived from using an Iris scanner on your butthole
16:11 asciilifeform 'what two men know - the sow knows'
16:12 mircea_popescu asciilifeform some amount of free voice will help some cases. no amount will help all cases.
16:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1000 @ 0.00121203 = 1.212 BTC [+] {2}
16:17 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/the-wisdom-of-crowds-apparently-it-mostly-depends-on-the-crowds-in-question/#comment-110073
16:17 assbot The wisdom of crowds. Apparently, it mostly depends on the crowds in question. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1uOcWd1 )
16:20 mircea_popescu hm where's that discussion re labs and measurements and how things get accepted
16:20 asciilifeform !s eotvos
16:20 assbot 8 results for 'eotvos' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=eotvos
16:21 asciilifeform there.
16:25 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-08-2014#816994
16:25 assbot Logged on 31-08-2014 02:17:56; assbot: Logged on 27-07-2014 19:05:02; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in 2010 i concocted a variant of the test that could be carried out for approx. 50k USD, from scratch. schwartz answered that, in his estimation, the test would work to spec, but results would not be accepted by the field unless carried out on one of the two existing eotvos balances. one - adelberger's, one - chicom.
16:25 asciilifeform ^ thread re: 'provenance'
16:27 mats_cd03 http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/DOJ-Tells-Apple-Kids-Will-Die-Because-of-Their-Encryption-Stand-131411
16:27 assbot DOJ Tells Apple Kids Will Die Because of Their Encryption Stand | DSLReports, ISP Information ... ( http://bit.ly/1uOdpMd )
16:30 danielpbarron http://youtu.be/RybNI0KB1bg
16:30 assbot The Simpsons - Helen Lovejoy - Think of the children - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1uOdy2d )
16:31 asciilifeform the apple et. al. 'born again in crypto' thing is cheap psyop.
16:46 BingoBoingo http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/11/21/its-amazing-how-fast-these-weeks-are-moving-now/
16:46 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
16:46 assbot It's amazing how fast these weeks are moving now | Bingo Blog ... ( http://bit.ly/1uOe5RU )
16:53 rithm BingoBoingo possible run-on sentence: It's beautiful this thing barely old enough to squirm managing to commit forward locomotion under its own power
16:53 rithm not sure if one comma or two
16:53 chetty http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/nov/21/e-cigarettes-malware-computers
16:53 assbot Now e-cigarettes can give you malware | Technology | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1uOeofk )
16:55 BingoBoingo fixed
16:55 asciilifeform translation: 'please fear usb disks, not winblows, winblows is yer friend'
16:56 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu ya that article was embarassingly shitty
16:56 asciilifeform incidentally, the one type of winblows 0day that will remain in inexhaustible supply for so long as microshit remains a thing, is the usb drive 0day.
16:57 mircea_popescu asciilifeform a very easy sell.
16:57 asciilifeform winblows file system handlers are porous on personal orders of lizard hitler.
16:58 pete_dushenski lessons learned 1) speak to what you know, 2) don't say "yes" to everything just because, 3) if you're going to do something, do it well, 4) have qntra articles vetted before publishing, 5) never quote wikipedia, duh.
16:58 BingoBoingo My bad on hitting the publish button
17:00 pete_dushenski BingoBoingo all good. you assumed that everything i touch is gold. but alas. a human is i and a human is you.
17:01 asciilifeform incidentally, there are folks who reverse microshit's patches for a living.
17:01 asciilifeform one day they will talk.
17:01 asciilifeform (what will we hear, when they do? approximately, what everyone already knew.)
17:02 pete_dushenski so here's some redeeming contravex: 1) http://www.contravex.com/2014/11/21/the-community-will-bust-your-balls-if-you-dont-listen-to-them-and-break-your-bank-account-if-you-do/
17:02 assbot “The Community” Will Bust Your Balls If You Don’t Listen To Them And Break Your Bank Account If You Do | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1uOeHa2 )
17:02 asciilifeform which is to say, the exact mechanism whereby the supply of 0day is in fact inexhaustible
17:02 pete_dushenski 2) http://www.contravex.com/2014/11/21/why-are-you-in-such-a-huff-all-i-said-was-we-should-think-about-quarantining-africa/
17:02 assbot Why Are You In Such A Huff? All I Said Was “We Should Think About Quarantining Africa” | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1uOeJ1J )
17:02 asciilifeform usg cycle goes approximately: 1) produce anal orifice (entirely plausibly-deniable bugpharms like microshit, with pedigrees going back into the sands of time, and impossibility of attribution or meaningful study - easy)
17:03 asciilifeform 2) exploit for a spell
17:03 asciilifeform 3) exploit is discovered by humans and put to use by wild men
17:03 pete_dushenski 4) party?
17:03 asciilifeform 4) exploit is patched, patch introduces more of the substance seen in step (1) (plausibly-deniable spaghetti that contains seeds of next iteration of cycle)
17:04 pete_dushenski o that's step 5
17:04 asciilifeform 5) patch is reversed by folks paid or otherwise happy to carry out this duty, and go to step 2.
17:04 asciilifeform microshit periodically goes to step 1, on release cycle (new winblows and 'service packs')
17:05 undata asciilifeform: certainly there are intentional back-doors, but I'm not going to give every steaming pile of microshit that excuse
17:05 asciilifeform undata: the entire architecture (soft & hard stack) is a meta-backdoor
17:05 asciilifeform actual, engineered back doors are seldom necessary
17:05 undata haha, yes
17:05 asciilifeform and when produced, are typically built to be physically indistinguishable from the 'natural' kind.
17:06 asciilifeform the only apparent exception is pki, which 'everyone' seems to know is a master key anal orifice of the first order, wherever it chances to appear, and yet virtually no one objects
17:06 asciilifeform on account of 'but they wouldn't dare'
17:07 asciilifeform (when 'they' - dare, e.g., stuxnet, somehow it goes 'down the memory hole' and magicked into 'never happened you consp1r4cy nutter')
17:10 asciilifeform pete_dushenski: i kept waiting, in your article, for the link to the canonical classic on the subject ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/924795/posts )
17:10 assbot Let Africa Sink ... ( http://bit.ly/1uOf1Wa )
17:11 pete_dushenski asciilifeform ah! my canon needed some fleshing out. ty!
17:11 pete_dushenski i'll see if i can't find a place for that
17:11 asciilifeform read it first, perhaps you'll disagree
17:13 pete_dushenski myes. most definitely
17:15 pete_dushenski so far so good..
17:16 asciilifeform in other news,
17:16 asciilifeform http://cryptome.org/2013/06/usss-cryptome.htm
17:16 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1r6d42c )
17:16 asciilifeform (repost, nm)
17:17 * asciilifeform not awake apparently
17:18 asciilifeform http://propagandahistory.ru/pics/2012/02/1329780434_c1ec.jpg
17:18 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1r6dpBZ )
17:21 asciilifeform (source: http://kryaker.dwg.ru/?p=2011 )
17:21 assbot Бред Сивой Кобылы » Ужастики по ТБ… ... ( http://bit.ly/1uOfurw )
17:23 undata asciilifeform: the characters in those posters have an almost minstrel quality
17:25 jurov lol ironically i did puncture myself once with pitchfork
17:26 asciilifeform http://anzgar.livejournal.com/51682.html << moar
17:26 assbot Varnish Error 503 Service Unavailable ... ( http://bit.ly/1uOfE21 )
17:27 jurov ne xodi po rybe !!11 :D
17:28 asciilifeform some of these could work well with new text.
17:34 jurov smotri pod nogi << da!
17:36 jurov Hello Sir When You Gonna Message At-Lest Tell Me Sir What's Going On Are You Fixing My Bugs Or Not Are You Seeing My Bugs Or Not Do You Have Any Problem With My Bugs ? Why Are You Behave Like That Sir Why Are You Ignoring Peoples This Is Not Well Behavior Sir Please Respect Our Work Ok Cause It Was Really Hard Work Which I Had Done And You Again Didn't Send Me Message ?/???
17:37 asciilifeform wat
17:37 jurov ^ copied some text about insecure cookies from wikipedia previously
17:37 jurov dud tries hard to get some "bug bounty"
17:37 jurov *dude
17:39 jurov i'll prolly reply "yes, bugs are fine, they eat every day and laid some eggs"
17:39 assbot Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2NVQGZ0.txt )
17:39 BingoBoingo !b 3
17:42 BingoBoingo https://twitter.com/KidElls1/status/535922835571478529
17:42 assbot /hashtag/goaliesacrifice?src=hash /hashtag/goalieproblems?src=hash/hashtag/igot99problems?src=hash/hashtag/highpitchvoice?src=hash/hashtag/ballsofsteal?src=hash/hashtag/XLcup?src=hash http://t.co/4nYa7CSN8l
17:43 BingoBoingo ^ Since there's a theme this week
17:43 BingoBoingo https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2_6uUnCIAAscsw.jpg
17:43 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1uOghIV )
17:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 27 @ 0.1024959 = 2.7674 BTC [+] {10}
17:55 xanthyos god is teasing me, the same way he teased jesus
17:56 xanthyos no one's supposed to struggle this much in life
17:56 xanthyos pick an ailment god
17:56 BingoBoingo Well, that's what you get for doing a persian penis trick
17:56 xanthyos pick one and stick with it you fickle fuck
18:02 ben_vulpes what's your cross today, xanthyos ?
18:04 BingoBoingo Healing is never painless
18:05 xanthyos i grew up watching saved by the bell. zack morris never had these problems.
18:11 pete_dushenski pankkake is firing up more than just trilema today :) http://www.contravex.com/2014/11/21/the-community-will-bust-your-balls-if-you-dont-listen-to-them-and-break-your-bank-account-if-you-do/#comment-5452
18:11 assbot “The Community” Will Bust Your Balls If You Don’t Listen To Them And Break Your Bank Account If You Do | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1z5e62R )
18:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14860 @ 0.00044508 = 6.6139 BTC [-]
18:14 mircea_popescu pete_dushenski BingoBoingo i like how positive you two are tho.
18:16 mircea_popescu asciilifeform 1/2/3/4 it seems quite probable that's exactly how this particular "engineering for excellence" thing works.
18:20 mircea_popescu "Finally, if you add the horrifying spread of AIDS into the equation, anyone born in sub-Saharan Africa this century will be lucky to reach age forty." ahem.
18:20 mircea_popescu quite a different story on life expectancy.
18:20 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: this gaffe is pestilentially ubiquitous
18:21 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i suspect he might mean it correctly.
18:21 asciilifeform possible.
18:21 mircea_popescu ANYONE. is lucky. to make it past 40.
18:21 mircea_popescu Two friends died from stepping on landmines while on Army duty in Namibia. Three died in horrific car accidents (and lest one thinks that this is not confined to Africa, one was caused by a kudu flying through a windshield and impaling the guy through the chest with its hoof--not your everyday traffic accident in, say, Florida).
18:22 mircea_popescu african guy never been to canada.
18:22 pete_dushenski lol yup. a moose will do the same thing
18:23 pete_dushenski not uncommon either
18:24 mircea_popescu anyway, the "casual attitude to life and death" he discusses is in no way typically african.
18:24 pete_dushenski https://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/motorvehiclesafety/tp-tp14798-1289.htm << ok only 12-32 ppl/year in canada
18:24 assbot Statistical Review - Transport Canada ... ( http://bit.ly/1z5hdI4 )
18:24 mircea_popescu it's just typical of actual people, as neatly opposed to dickles otakus or w/e populate teh us.
18:24 asciilifeform not uniquely african, no. all orcs.
18:24 mircea_popescu all men.
18:24 asciilifeform !s orcs humans
18:24 assbot 6 results for 'orcs humans' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=orcs+humans
18:25 asciilifeform (can replace with whatever names one prefers, so long as remembering that 'orc' regards 'human' as effete nithling, and 'human' regards 'orc' as a filthy shaved ape.)
18:25 mircea_popescu lemme make the argument here.
18:26 mircea_popescu your own life is not actually within your control. valuing something outside of your control is logically broken, and that basis is enough for any ulterior brokenness to be itnroduced.
18:26 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: http://copypast.ru/uploads/posts/1342177290_mntbf1m5zo0.jpg << relevant
18:26 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1z5hOtj )
18:27 asciilifeform ^ not a 'virginal' poster, if anyone is confused
18:27 mircea_popescu lol rabbits
18:27 jurov orcs shave? TIL
18:28 jurov soo gay
18:28 asciilifeform approximately: 'bravely the railman / drunkenly struts / if he's run over / he'll show you some guts!' - 'comrade, don't fear death!'
18:29 mircea_popescu lettuce see there. boldly
18:29 mircea_popescu mnah, safely along the tracks
18:29 mircea_popescu lol
18:29 mircea_popescu i guess you're faster than me
18:29 asciilifeform looser.
18:30 mircea_popescu "In my lifetime, the following tragedies have occurred, causing untold millions of deaths: famine in Biafra"
18:31 mircea_popescu i remember this. when i was like 6 old women around me were "omg, you look like you're from biafra! eat something!"
18:32 jurov i was quite a brat: "you don't want to eat this? think of starving children in africa, they'd like this" "well, so send it to them"
18:32 mircea_popescu lol
18:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00044224 = 4.7762 BTC [-]
18:32 mircea_popescu see jurov, and now god gave them aids for your sins.
18:33 mircea_popescu you shoulda just ate the damned peas!
18:34 mircea_popescu Among old Africa hands, we have a saying, usually accompanied by a shrug: "Africa wins again." This is usually said after an incident such as: a beloved missionary is butchered by his congregation, for no apparent reason.
18:35 jurov lol wins again... a brazil joke came to mind:
18:36 jurov Brazil is the country of future. And forever shall be.
18:36 mircea_popescu lmao
18:36 mircea_popescu 17 countries saw a decline in real per capita GNP between 1970 and 1999, despite receiving well over $100 billion in World Bank assistance
18:36 pete_dushenski i'm off, have a lovely evening b-a!
18:36 mircea_popescu well, in fairness part of this may be that the african gdp is sinking in realer terms. if same were applied, the us sunk since the 80s something fiercer
18:36 mircea_popescu 3/4 or some shit
18:37 asciilifeform more height, more splat.
18:37 mircea_popescu The result of decades of "foreign aid" has resulted in a continental infrastructure which, if one excludes South Africa, couldn't support Pittsburgh.
18:37 mircea_popescu this is very unfair. i have personally used the egyptian trains, cairo to luxor
18:38 mircea_popescu first class had better service than anywhere i've ever been, including switzerland
18:38 mircea_popescu complete with private gay butler, in white gloves.
18:38 asciilifeform afaik egypt is africa solely in geographic sense.
18:38 jurov if they exclude maghreb, too.. but nairobi seems to have decnt infra, too
18:39 mircea_popescu well you know, without this without that... basically you're what, talking of "african americans" ?
18:40 * asciilifeform not expert on africa, does not know how much of the piece is 'reversed stupidity'
18:40 mircea_popescu other than being an european in the "mare nostrum" sense of that concept, me either.
18:40 asciilifeform perhaps the chicoms, in a decade or three, will share an honest picture of that continent.
18:41 asciilifeform once they're done terraforming it.
18:43 mircea_popescu yeah seems the inescapble fate of the black race, extermination at the hands of the yellow.
18:43 mircea_popescu at least whitey TRANSPORTED them, ya know ?
18:44 mircea_popescu "If a cure for AIDS was found tomorrow, and offered to every African nation free of charge, the growth of the disease would scarcely be checked, let alone reversed." i ca see this.
18:45 mircea_popescu amusingly, what the african activists willing to speak plainly say sounds a whole fuckload of a lot just like what the paternalist southern lobby was saying in the us, early 1800s.
18:45 asciilifeform elementary. consider simple vitamin deficiencies. easy pill - no difference.
18:45 asciilifeform and they aren't even infectious.
18:45 mircea_popescu what do you mean ?
18:46 mircea_popescu i just treated girly anemia with succinate
18:46 asciilifeform e.g., pellagra.
18:46 mircea_popescu oh you mean in africa
18:46 asciilifeform aha
18:46 mircea_popescu a yea
18:46 mircea_popescu somehow i deduced you mean pills just don't work in principle somehow
18:47 asciilifeform lol
18:50 mircea_popescu Even worse would be to think that the simplicity of Africa holds some kind of answers for Western society: remember "It Takes A Village"? Trust me on this: there is not one thing that Africa can give the West which hasn't been tried before and failed, not one thing that isn't a step backwards, and not one thing which is worse than, or that contradicts, what we have already.
18:50 asciilifeform there's typo in there, i think
18:50 mircea_popescu this is actually a general point. i recall a few decades ago bored stupid californian housewifes and ex actresses went all crazy about how india is going to be teh great cure
18:51 mircea_popescu fizzled as one'd expect. there's a reason india was a colonial empire and not vice-versa.
18:51 asciilifeform 'isn't worse'
18:52 mircea_popescu i guess ya
18:53 asciilifeform 'Hindus enjoy 36 crores of gods - that's 360 million, or more. None of them offered a Sanscrit pre-publication proof of Classical Electrodynamics by Jackson or volunteered Novocain.' -- al schwartz
18:53 mircea_popescu anyway, lulzfest in comments, #5 is where i stopped.
18:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23850 @ 0.00044521 = 10.6183 BTC [+] {5}
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19:59 nubbins` !up OneNomos
19:59 nubbins` !up theotcguy
20:02 OneNomos ty nubbins`, lurking for now
20:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5278 @ 0.00045381 = 2.3952 BTC [+]
20:18 nubbins` !up twizt
20:19 twizt random voice outs? lol
20:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57150 @ 0.00045245 = 25.8575 BTC [-] {2}
20:25 mircea_popescu happens all teh time.
20:38 Bet created: "BitPay to process $12M or more during 2014 Bitcoin Black Friday" http://bitbet.us/bet/1072/
20:39 Bet created: "Case hardware wallet theft reported before November 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/1073/
20:44 mats_cd03 what's with the weights on these bets?
20:47 kakobrekla they go to 1?
20:48 mats_cd03 im seeing 0 weight yes and no for both
20:49 kakobrekla yeah wait a block
20:49 mats_cd03 oh.
20:49 kakobrekla or refresh
20:49 kakobrekla it happened
20:49 mats_cd03 ;;tslb
20:49 gribble Time since last block: 2 minutes and 34 seconds
20:50 kakobrekla sez on bottom of page
20:50 kakobrekla Last block: 2 minutes ago (331060)
20:51 mats_cd03 they're displaying now, i didn't know that happened with new bets
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22:14 decimation http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/senate-blocks-nsa-phone-records-measure/2014/11/18/41275bfe-6f88-11e4-a2c2-478179fd0489_story.html
22:14 assbot AP Exclusive: Before Snowden, a debate inside NSA - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1uOqZiH )
22:14 decimation "The now-retired NSA official, a longtime code-breaker who rose to top management, had just learned in 2009 about the top secret program that was created shortly after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. ... “An individual did bring us these questions, and he had some great points,” Alexander told the AP. “I asked the technical folks, including him, to look at it,”"
22:15 decimation Alexander seems to be a master at deflecting blame
22:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40100 @ 0.00045466 = 18.2319 BTC [+]
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22:52 thestringpuller http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/11/21/peter-thiel-explains-why-bitcoin-isnt-money/ << lol more laffs for popescu
22:52 thestringpuller "The idea that taxes drive the value of money.known as chartalism.goes back at least as far as German economist Georg Friedrich Knapp.s 1905 book .The State Theory of Money."
22:53 thestringpuller laffs for mircea_popescu *
22:57 mircea_popescu derp.
22:57 mircea_popescu mebbe thiel should stick to what he knows
22:57 mircea_popescu whatever that is.
22:58 decimation he knows how to please those who please the state
22:58 decimation he knows how to please those who please the state
22:58 mircea_popescu a right. mkay.
22:58 thestringpuller sounds like a definition of a prostitute.
22:58 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/the-wisdom-of-crowds-apparently-it-mostly-depends-on-the-crowds-in-question/#comment-110090 << if anyone feels like explaining to the kid 'what the unix/linux values are'
22:58 assbot The wisdom of crowds. Apparently, it mostly depends on the crowds in question. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1BWs391 )
22:58 mircea_popescu i feel unequal to the task.
23:00 asciilifeform trilema no loady
23:01 mircea_popescu eh wtfd.
23:01 mircea_popescu !up kdomanski
23:01 decimation heh yeah I read that. to be honest, I'm not sure the existing init system is worthy of much praise
23:03 mircea_popescu decimation i can see that point.
23:03 decimation but systemd is worse, in the sense that it adds a layer of obfuscation
23:03 mircea_popescu exactly.
23:03 mircea_popescu just because your old clunker is rusty doesn't mean you should add a bamboo patio on the roof.
23:04 decimation now, it does give some functionality in exchange - faster boot times, 'carefully managed' boot process, etc
23:04 asciilifeform actually we have here a rare case of danger from an unwillingness to move from the technological into the political gear of thought.
23:04 mircea_popescu decimation yes, exactly what monoturdism usually promises.
23:04 mircea_popescu then fails to deliver.
23:04 mircea_popescu you familiar with the "giant stool" approach to economics ?
23:05 decimation nope, what does that mean?
23:05 asciilifeform poettering and his followers have demonstrated that they cannot be trusted to build a non-diabolical doorknob, much less init system
23:05 mircea_popescu think of a supermarket as if it were a giant, walking the land of midgets.
23:05 mircea_popescu should it find a nice place to sit for a while, such as a neighbourhood, it will be fine for as long as it sits, and when that's done can walk away
23:05 mircea_popescu the stool he sat on, however, will never recover from having been sat upon.
23:06 decimation in the sense that the midgets were all slain
23:06 mircea_popescu ye, the people that left in exasperation at all the sprawl won't come back.
23:06 mircea_popescu the shops that were closed by its competition won't return
23:06 mircea_popescu soon enough you turned greenwich village into detroit.
23:06 mircea_popescu now, this is a general economic principle, and it applies jut as well to monolithic coding approaches.
23:07 mircea_popescu at first they promise "jobs for everyone and cheapoer prices"
23:07 mircea_popescu then they don't deliver
23:07 mircea_popescu then they leave.
23:07 mircea_popescu compare ms-dos, still to this day accepted here as a paragon of programming,
23:07 mircea_popescu with microsoft windows.
23:07 decimation the window of economic possibility is narrowed
23:07 mircea_popescu so, yes, "faster boot times". a more irrelevant metric could scarcely be devised.
23:08 mircea_popescu how about "my uptime is longer than poettering's coding experience". what bootup "?
23:09 decimation now the question is, are the economic possibilities of the midgets really narrowed, or do they just perceive that they are?
23:09 mircea_popescu they are really narrowed. what happens there is treason. treason never works politically.
23:09 mircea_popescu specifically, some midgets betray some other midgets, which they need to survive.
23:09 mircea_popescu those latter midgets leave
23:09 mircea_popescu and the former can't live.
23:11 mircea_popescu the best case study for this in my view is romania in the 30s. idiot, indolent romanians allowed the worst among them (iron guard, dubious local fascist wannabe) to assassinate the best romanian that then lived, one duca.
23:11 mircea_popescu without him, romania spent half a century in the warsaw shitter. with him, it'd have probably been greece instead.
23:12 decimation this idea could also explain why debt-funding (usg bank style) is ruinous compared to capital-funding in the long run
23:14 mircea_popescu sure.
23:14 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2011/trei-exemple-si-o-concluzie/#comment-39254 << duca reference, for the perenially curious.
23:14 assbot Trei exemple si o concluzie. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1BWu0lR )
23:15 decimation at any rate, asciilifeform makes a good point, the main ding against systemd is that its main author has written several well-known turds, thus the fruit of the tree
23:15 mircea_popescu it's that "first they came for x but i said nothing" thing, exactly. it's not in any sense a novel or a marginal idea.
23:15 asciilifeform decimation: no.
23:15 mircea_popescu and it goes right into the extraction economy discussion. you familiar with that one ?
23:15 asciilifeform decimation: not simply 'known turds,' but the -behaviour- of him & followers.
23:16 decimation I don't follow the extraction economy comment
23:16 decimation asciilifeform: the 'join or die' mentality?
23:16 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2011/jaful-si-economia/ << reference.
23:16 assbot Jaful si economia pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1BWuf07 )
23:17 mats_cd03 http://youtu.be/5Qj8p-PEwbI
23:17 assbot Ubuntu Causes Girl To Drop Out of College - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1BWudpg )
23:18 mircea_popescu yeah, she sounds just like a college chick.
23:19 mats_cd03 i was tickled by the chick flipping through a picture book
23:21 decimation "her verizon internet cd won't load on ubuntu"
23:21 mircea_popescu legit complaint.
23:23 decimation her problem is that she is a tiny, aimless midget in a world where massive giants are wondering, and they get 'roided daily with debt
23:24 mircea_popescu basically, her problem is that the people who can think have decided lying to her is okay.
23:24 mircea_popescu and certainly better than hurting her.
23:24 mircea_popescu it's a pov. i don't happen to subscribe to it is all.
23:25 decimation yeah, it is the exact opposite of that german education circa 1880 that we discussed earlier
23:26 mircea_popescu quite.
23:26 mircea_popescu "I also have no doubt that Poettering has received such attacks. Unfortunately, that comes with being a public figure on today's Internet. I myself have gotten death threats serious enough that I've turned them over to the FBI"
23:26 mircea_popescu somehow the quality of the assholes in question never comes before the debate.
23:27 mircea_popescu it's not that poettering gets pissed on wherever he goes because he in point of fact is a poitless, middlesome imbecile.
23:27 mircea_popescu oh, no. it's because the internet is bad. because when you get negative feedback, you gotta blame the feedback.
23:27 decimation that suddenly makes me sorry for fbi agents. they are essentially at the bottom of a gigantic public suggestion box/toilet
23:28 mircea_popescu anyway. the right way has to be defended.
23:28 mircea_popescu it's not just that systemd is a piece of shit.
23:28 mircea_popescu it's that poettering personally is a malignancy, that what he says is poisonous, not just for the free world but individually for people that are intellectually mature,
23:28 asciilifeform that's sorta what i was trying to explain
23:28 mircea_popescu and that the groups he tends to attract and promote are nothing short of malicious.
23:29 mircea_popescu that he dares to spin this entire web where "he puts the blame" on linus is nothing short of outrageous.
23:29 mircea_popescu any cat may look at the king. sure. no cat may file a suit against the crown.
23:30 decimation so, this girl should have been told "You are not smart enough to become a scholar, but you have the material needed to become an excellent wife - learn to make non-lashable cooking, darn socks, and be feminine"
23:31 mircea_popescu quite.
23:31 decimation the receiving fbi agent should have had the same to say to poettering
23:31 mircea_popescu problem is, the derps in the studio should have a) been repressed enough that they never dared think of speaking in front of the camera, let alone be allowed to do it
23:31 mircea_popescu and b) be told the exact same thing.
23:31 mats_cd03 b-but that's sexist
23:31 mircea_popescu stupidity is genderless.
23:32 mircea_popescu decimation r fbi agents. they are essentially at the bottom of a gigantic public suggestion box/toilet << check this shit out!
23:32 mircea_popescu !s gestapo
23:32 assbot 15 results for 'gestapo' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=gestapo
23:32 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2014#908866
23:32 assbot Logged on 04-11-2014 02:49:05; decimation: so after watching Stierlitz, I surfed the wikipedia describing the NASDP government intelligence 4th department http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gestapo "According to Canadian historian Robert Gellately's analysis of the local offices established, the Gestapo was—for the most part—made up of bureaucrats and clerical workers who depended upon denunciations by citizens for their information.[78] Gellately
23:33 decimation yeah I think I mentioned about how the gestapo used the same effect to 'terrorize' the population
23:33 mircea_popescu not even a matter of going that far.
23:33 mircea_popescu my point is, in a socialist system, be it us-socialist or national-socialist or soviet-socialist or anything it may be
23:33 mircea_popescu the supposed fbi/gru/gestapo/etc is simply a toilet box for the public idiocy.
23:34 mircea_popescu this is a very visible symptom of the problem of well metastasized socialism : a general sense of entitlement in the crowd of idiots. an unwarranted expectation of efficiency on their part.
23:34 mircea_popescu the pernicious idea that they matter and can do things. etc.
23:35 mircea_popescu in short, what do we observe right before a kinetic crash ? why, a body with high energy density and low navigational control.
23:35 mircea_popescu now, go ahead and explain this to pankkake somehow. but in such a way so it fits his preconceptions comfortably.
23:37 decimation there are millions of pankkakes who have become comfortable with living in whatever jungle conditions they find themselves
23:37 decimation they might even find a particular patch of jungle that is more pleasing than another
23:37 mircea_popescu sure, but that's cleaved. personal experience is one thing, personal understanding another.
23:38 decimation it might be the case that this kind of understanding can only be had through a few cycles of systemds
23:38 decimation * a few cycles of personal systemd experience
23:39 mircea_popescu in any case, no amount of energy put into cutting short the ego and curbing the enthusiasm of the general population is wasted.
23:39 mircea_popescu just like it's better to run a car just slightly slower than the maximum speed at which you can control a car, just so it's better to aspire to less than what one can actually do.
23:39 mats_cd03 not as long as people like poettering keep breathing amd contributing.
23:40 mircea_popescu mats_cd03 the one thing three eyar olds have in common across language and geography is this tendency to bring you a piece of paper they took a shit on, for your admiration.
23:40 mircea_popescu aka, they "contribute".
23:41 mircea_popescu ;;google maddox better than your kids
23:41 gribble I Am Better Than Your Kids - Page 1: <http://www.iambetterthanyourkids.com/>; I am better than your kids. - The Best Page In The Universe.: <http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=irule>; Crappy Children's Art: Maddox: 9781439182888: Amazon.com: Books: <http://www.amazon.com/Crappy-Childrens-Art-Maddox/dp/1439182884>
23:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22193 @ 0.00046024 = 10.2141 BTC [+]
23:43 decimation semi-related lols (warez): http://www.isegoria.net/2014/11/denigration-of-the-great-revolution/ "The latest Assassin’s Creed video game takes place in Paris during the French Revolution, and French leftists are appalled that the heroes of the People are depicted as bloodthirsty savages:"
23:43 assbot Denigration of the Great Revolution « Isegoria ... ( http://bit.ly/1uNEPQQ )
23:48 decimation I want to play a game where I can stab Marat in the back
23:48 asciilifeform i want to stab authors of www browsers who enable 'right click disable' in the front.
23:48 asciilifeform and back.
23:48 decimation asciilifeform: a betrayal of the first order, this, the computer serving someone other than its master
23:49 asciilifeform paradoxically, it is actually more annoying to me than to most lamers, because i end up doing some actual work, to grab the machine by the neck until shits itself into submission
23:50 asciilifeform whereas lamer can surrender and go on with his life
23:51 decimation I wonder if one can 'disable' the javascript hook that causes this
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