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00:02 mircea_popescu myeah.
00:05 BingoBoingo Eh, there's always room to name flavors
00:18 mircea_popescu true
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00:39 mircea_popescu and in other pools, http://68.media.tumblr.com/be57a88d478a19f420ba6bcd8a01c062/tumblr_ndvydn1kEV1u0ns10o1_1280.jpg
00:39 mod6 i need to go to that pool party
00:44 mircea_popescu totally.
00:45 mircea_popescu of course... her blocks are getting kinda full.
00:49 BingoBoingo Well, rate limited scarcity!!!
00:50 mircea_popescu should hambeast for great justice ?
00:50 BingoBoingo Nah
00:50 mircea_popescu "put down the fork and eat no more... eat no more..."
00:51 mircea_popescu "eat no more shit..."
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01:08 deedbot http://qntra.net/2017/07/as-fake-news-hammers-russian-fanfiction-number-of-believers-crashes/ << Qntra - As Fake News Hammers Russian Fanfiction Number Of Believers Crashes
01:09 BingoBoingo ^ related "eat no more shit..."
01:12 mircea_popescu hehe
01:20 mircea_popescu good thing the fake media has readership, otherwise it'd be like, less influential than trilema irl.
01:23 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/9B2B6BCD108A73255D7C96C56F4D05290FDCF0D4EB76182146B86644232D3EE8 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1449...5427 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '173.255.192.16 (ssh-rsa key from 173.255.192.16 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (poseidon.zonemail.co.za. US NJ)
01:23 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/9B2B6BCD108A73255D7C96C56F4D05290FDCF0D4EB76182146B86644232D3EE8 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1686...4417 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '173.255.192.16 (ssh-rsa key from 173.255.192.16 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (poseidon.zonemail.co.za. US NJ)
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02:13 mircea_popescu !!up fromdeedbot
02:13 deedbot fromdeedbot voiced for 30 minutes.
02:14 BingoBoingo fromdeedbot: WHo is your daddy? What does he do?
02:15 BingoBoingo please don't let it be https://archive.is/GrHgo
02:24 mircea_popescu in a shocking development
02:26 BingoBoingo Maybe you shouldn't ground yourself if you don't want shocks?
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04:11 deedbot http://qntra.net/2017/07/columbia-university-settles-in-case-of-mattress-harassment-against-student/ << Qntra - Columbia University Settles In Case Of Mattress Harassment Against Student
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08:23 mod6 asciilifeform: real 313m41.727s
08:25 mod6 the start of the number is 1D1CB6CEFC854C98FC338B0A2757950AE2F87 ...
08:25 mod6 im gonna re-run, see what it looks like second time.
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09:11 shinohai In btc phork lulz: https://github.com/btc1/bitcoin/issues/81
09:20 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/4896C098CC22A82F9EBFCBF5DA65C1EA90B6525A51EC838B320C27F0CBB62C4C << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1231...7439 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '77.37.17.125 (ssh-rsa key from 77.37.17.125 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown DE HE)
09:20 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/4896C098CC22A82F9EBFCBF5DA65C1EA90B6525A51EC838B320C27F0CBB62C4C << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1213...2489 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '77.37.17.125 (ssh-rsa key from 77.37.17.125 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown DE HE)
09:25 asciilifeform soooo mod6 et al:
09:25 asciilifeform trial #3 of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-16#1685029 >>>> 153m11.170s
09:25 a111 Logged on 2017-07-16 20:07 asciilifeform: 'Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz' : 153m7.214s
09:26 asciilifeform trial #3 of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-16#1685030 >>>> 155m49.960s
09:26 a111 Logged on 2017-07-16 20:08 asciilifeform: 'Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4870HQ CPU @ 2.50GHz' (Crapple MBP) : 155m57.246s
09:26 asciilifeform nao for some new:
09:26 asciilifeform 'Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-1660 v3 @ 3.00GHz' : 221m26.876s
09:28 asciilifeform i also got hold of a 'celeron', but that one is running STILL !
09:29 asciilifeform oh, almost forgot, trial #2 of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-16#1685031 >>>> 298m12.551s
09:29 a111 Logged on 2017-07-16 20:08 asciilifeform: 'AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 2393 SE @ 3.1 GHz' : 298m6.240s
09:32 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-17#1685338 << mod6 please diff with the actual answer, at http://nosuchlabs.com/pub/fact_out.txt .
09:32 a111 Logged on 2017-07-17 12:25 mod6: the start of the number is 1D1CB6CEFC854C98FC338B0A2757950AE2F87 ...
09:32 asciilifeform live is too short to attempt to use eyeballs as diff.
09:32 asciilifeform *life
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09:56 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/6A7EA940DD01FFB67446D983270359E0A7B7D937312B63ADE36B17982CC8863B << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1623...1337 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '213.252.158.19 (ssh-rsa key from 213.252.158.19 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (web03.luenecom.de. DE)
09:56 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/6A7EA940DD01FFB67446D983270359E0A7B7D937312B63ADE36B17982CC8863B << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1621...3919 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '213.252.158.19 (ssh-rsa key from 213.252.158.19 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (web03.luenecom.de. DE)
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10:13 mod6 <+asciilifeform> http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-17#1685338 << mod6 please diff with the actual answer, at http://nosuchlabs.com/pub/fact_out.txt . << ok, will check it out and report back
10:13 a111 Logged on 2017-07-17 12:25 mod6: the start of the number is 1D1CB6CEFC854C98FC338B0A2757950AE2F87 ...
10:13 mod6 thanks for the link.
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10:39 asciilifeform in other noose, 'Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU N2807 @ 1.58GHz' >>>> 840m49.075s
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11:20 erlehmann http://news.dieweltistgarnichtso.net/posts/gnome-thumbnailer-msi-fail.html
11:30 asciilifeform 'Thumbnail generation for MSI files in GNOME Files executes arbitrary VBScript.' << run moar wingnomez!111
11:30 asciilifeform 'Remedy (for users) Delete all files in /usr/share/thumbnailers....' << wai not 'remove gnome and all other poetteringware' ?? erlehmann
11:33 erlehmann oh, i found a typo
11:39 erlehmann asciilifeform gnome-core depends on nautilus.
11:39 asciilifeform so?
11:39 erlehmann this means kebab will be removed from premises
11:39 asciilifeform wtf even is that
11:40 erlehmann if you uninstall nautilus (the GNOME file manager), the majority of gnome follows suit
11:40 asciilifeform and..?
11:40 erlehmann so my suggestion involves uninstalling it?
11:40 asciilifeform straight to the furnace with ALL of it
11:40 asciilifeform not 'majority'. ALL.
11:41 erlehmann i have no wish to engage with gnome internals to find out HOW MUCH is uninstalled when you remove its core libraries
11:41 asciilifeform just. don't. install. any.
11:41 erlehmann as it would either mean reading about dependencies or installing gnome
11:41 erlehmann both concepts i am not too fond of
11:41 asciilifeform why is it on your box?!! to begin with
11:41 erlehmann i read about the evince CVE
11:41 erlehmann code execution in comic book parsers
11:42 erlehmann and then i was like “other thumbnailers are surely as stupid”
11:42 erlehmann and behold, i found a COPY of that CVE, in the source code of atril
11:42 erlehmann copy & paste coding
11:42 erlehmann also i found this vbscript goodness
11:42 asciilifeform erlehmann: gnome etc. is same nsaware as the microshit icon-and-payload-loader garbage
11:43 erlehmann then i stopped looking, as around a third of the thumbnail handlers had obvious issues and this topic bores me already.
11:43 erlehmann i'd bet money that thumbnail handlers on every OS are uniformly garbage
11:43 asciilifeform adult os dun have 'thumnail handler' or any such thing.
11:43 erlehmann i don't need them anway, so why look more for stuff?
11:43 asciilifeform or 'desktop', etc.
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13:20 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-17#1685340 << summer of lulz
13:20 a111 Logged on 2017-07-17 13:11 shinohai: In btc phork lulz: https://github.com/btc1/bitcoin/issues/81
13:21 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-17#1685355 << he has a point. plus it seems to never work for me.
13:21 a111 Logged on 2017-07-17 13:32 asciilifeform: live is too short to attempt to use eyeballs as diff.
13:25 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> erlehmann: gnome etc. is same nsaware as the microshit icon-and-payload-loader garbage << AHA! Very coordinated these pixels.
13:26 BingoBoingo <erlehmann> i'd bet money that thumbnail handlers on every OS are uniformly garbage << Not all...
13:28 BingoBoingo This is how pantsuit mind works "What could we undermine that CANNOT be done without? THUMBNAILER!!!"
13:28 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-17#1685367 and also, http://trilema.com/2014/ubuntu-is-a-worse-piece-of-shit-than-ms-dos-ever-was/#selection-149.0-149.273
13:28 a111 Logged on 2017-07-17 15:39 erlehmann: asciilifeform gnome-core depends on nautilus.
13:28 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo i suspect you're right, at that. because their niggers could never go outta da house without the bling.
13:29 erlehmann for context: nautilus == gnome files
13:29 mircea_popescu nautilus = ubuntu default file manager.
13:29 mircea_popescu you can get ~any file manager to work with any x-skin, which is what kde gnome etc all are.
13:29 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: To solve that problem your gotta edit /etc/niggers.txt
13:30 BingoBoingo !up EIC
13:30 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo moar like change registry entry for AreUsANigger to 42.
13:31 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Nah, that's how people without any land do it. Registry isn't robust enough for active farm use though.
13:32 erlehmann sorry, but when is a suit a pantsuit?
13:32 erlehmann when a clinton or merkel wears it?
13:32 erlehmann we have a word for that in german – hosenanzug
13:32 erlehmann but i don't get the difference at all
13:33 mircea_popescu erlehmann a pantsuit denotes a certain sort of female mind -- that puts the esteem of the female herd above the esteem of randomly chosen male.
13:33 mircea_popescu it is the opposite behaviour of what they call a slut.
13:34 mircea_popescu the girl who would say "i can't leave with you, i'm here with my friends", just like the boy that'd vote hillary, just like anyone who reads the fake news media, just like the drones in offices who never propositioned their coworkers for sex in the elevators == pantsuits.
13:34 erlehmann get it
13:35 mircea_popescu basically the socialist is he who has thought about the matter, and for his sins and utterly broken head has come to the conclusion that yes indeed, the problems of individuals are to be resolved by recoursew to groups ; whereas the pantsuit is he who has never stopped to consider, but instinctually or otherwise follows this herd.
13:37 BingoBoingo ^ Pantsuit label attaches to behavior and ideology, is imposed upon guilty without regard for party affiliation
13:38 BingoBoingo For its fiat counterweight see "IPP"
13:38 BingoBoingo *fiat world
13:38 BingoBoingo http://qntra.net/2017/01/trump-now-president-ushered-in-by-a-show/ << MWGA
13:39 asciilifeform meanwhile #2 of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-17#1685349 , with less extraneous load >>>> 202m2.191s .
13:39 a111 Logged on 2017-07-17 13:26 asciilifeform: 'Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-1660 v3 @ 3.00GHz' : 221m26.876s
13:43 mircea_popescu meanwhile in fluid dynamics, http://68.media.tumblr.com/549a7055863498f494a3599da64e2876/tumblr_oeypelGVbk1sytl3wo1_400.gif
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14:17 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-17#1685400 <<< >>> http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-13#1669650 !
14:17 a111 Logged on 2017-07-17 17:28 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-17#1685367 and also, http://trilema.com/2014/ubuntu-is-a-worse-piece-of-shit-than-ms-dos-ever-was/#selection-149.0-149.273
14:17 a111 Logged on 2017-06-13 22:37 asciilifeform: end result is to be a vaguely msdos-like thing that understands how to configure x64 page table, put/get blocks of disk, and speak over rs232 port. and on top of this, a self-building gnat.
14:17 mircea_popescu aha
14:18 mircea_popescu !~later tell EIC wouldja stop with the join/part spam
14:18 jhvh1 mircea_popescu: The operation succeeded.
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14:40 mircea_popescu ahahaha this stupid bitch was even almost-raped!!11
14:42 mircea_popescu harriette fucking wilson, the apodictical modern girl of the 1800s. just like deep throat she traded all she could for attention as a young ugly woman, and then grown old and growing upset at having derived altogether too little in unearned rents from the entire affair, moved on to trying to attention whore out of the perceived injustice of it all.
14:53 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: gotta ask, what exactly is an ~earned rent~
14:53 mircea_popescu the greatest boy born every year is entitled by the fact of his greatness to eager service of a good majority of the girls similarily born. this is an earned rent -- by right of birth.
14:54 mircea_popescu the man who, walking into a room, overpowers all present, is entitled, by right of force, to whatever he may extract.
14:54 mircea_popescu all rents are earned but by the whiners.
14:54 asciilifeform and the slippiest pickpocket , to all of their wallets, also ?
14:54 mircea_popescu yep.
14:55 mircea_popescu umm
14:55 asciilifeform lol
14:55 mircea_popescu that is the objection -- that she sucks. she wasn't ever any good, and yet hallucinates entitlements for herself.
14:55 asciilifeform why even remembered, if not anygood
14:56 asciilifeform iirc subj was a whore..?
14:56 asciilifeform i have nfi anybody memorialized badwhores
14:56 mircea_popescu not even. she was../. what do you call those japanese schoolgirls that go have diner with lame "businessmen" so the other lame businessmen can see them ?
14:56 asciilifeform enjo kosai
14:56 mircea_popescu no actual fucking, just this very superficial sort of escort service. there, ty.
14:57 asciilifeform though iirc enjo kosai fuck . you're thinking of ameritard 'wingman'
14:57 mircea_popescu this flourished in a time when high born men were shockingly stupid, and she is not remembered. a litany of their names arranged by unclean hands is still, (and only by the most antiquarianly minded) reviewed.
14:57 mircea_popescu asciilifeform all women will fuck on occasion. point being there's no fuck on the bill of fare, as with whores.
14:59 mircea_popescu asciilifeform see, this is the important point here : there may or may not have been a stupid cunt / sack of flesh with the label "harriette wilson" at one point or another. this is ireelevant to anything. a collection of stupidities of people in a meanwhile defunct wot has received, FOR NO REASON, and through coincidental cause, the "same" label. it is not same in any meaningful sense. this is the fate of the various harriet
14:59 mircea_popescu te wilsons : that "their" name shall be used as label, though it wasn't their name nor were they ever anything.
14:59 asciilifeform meanwhile, trial #3 of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-17#1685351 >>>> 297m57.012s !
14:59 a111 Logged on 2017-07-17 13:29 asciilifeform: oh, almost forgot, trial #2 of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-16#1685031 >>>> 298m12.551s
15:00 mircea_popescu an entirely unrelated process, whereby lord newton's name is used to denote lord newton's work makes the untrained mind confuse the foregoing for "some kind of this", and imagine "harriette lives through her work"
15:00 mircea_popescu she does not.
15:00 asciilifeform herostratus lol
15:01 mircea_popescu quite.
15:02 asciilifeform funnily enough, his sentence of damnatio memoriae seems to be finally taking effect -- i've yet to meet the usa-born folx who know who subj was
15:02 mircea_popescu yes we call it "hariette wilson's memoirs", but it has no author just like a collection of peasant ballads have no author. the point of interest is that fred lamb or argyle didn't pay to not be named, whereas the early pantsuit ally http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-15#1684405 did.
15:02 a111 Logged on 2017-07-15 17:57 mircea_popescu: he could as well be their fucking patron saint, the party of vaux.
15:02 asciilifeform waiwat how did vaux 'pay to not be named' ?
15:03 mircea_popescu the publisher of "harriette wilson" memoirs wrote to all people named to give them the option to pay and have their names elided.
15:03 asciilifeform aa
15:03 asciilifeform interesting business model.
15:03 mircea_popescu this was legal in 1800, and that happenstance combined withtheir batshit insane attitude towards the women clearly paints the picture of a rotten expire.
15:10 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: insane how
15:11 mircea_popescu i'm writing an article about it, but at the gist -- allowing one who is neither productive on their own (ie, as a black box) nor competend to examination any degree of autonomy whatsoever.
15:11 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-17#1685436 << life-as-neverending-wrestling-match is a very expensive thing, that afaik was not lived out in practice by anybody at all -- samurai included. in practice everybody does some combination of actually squaring off and 'fleet in being'. which eventually converges to britain.
15:11 a111 Logged on 2017-07-17 18:54 mircea_popescu: the man who, walking into a room, overpowers all present, is entitled, by right of force, to whatever he may extract.
15:12 mircea_popescu if they let cows graze where they will, opening and closing doors for them and cleanning up after them, you'd term the arrangement insane. the way most people keep "pets" is insane.
15:12 mircea_popescu this is what they did to women, and it was just as insane.
15:12 mircea_popescu asciilifeform does not converge to britain except among the stupid.
15:12 mircea_popescu converges to one hell of a party among the smart.
15:12 asciilifeform i haven't been to the smartpeopleplanet
15:12 asciilifeform so have nfi.
15:12 mircea_popescu you missed out 90s in your native lands.
15:13 asciilifeform i see 0 smart about 90s. orgy of sofa burn.
15:13 mircea_popescu and that -- was a horrible thing to miss.
15:13 asciilifeform 'only good party is powered by burning sofa' ?!
15:13 mircea_popescu everything is always powered by burning sofa my good man. the us of today is powered by burning sofa designed by hamilton ; while the china of today is powered by burning sofa designed by confucius.
15:13 mircea_popescu wherever you turn, a sofa burns.
15:14 asciilifeform at some point somebody gotta make new sofa neh
15:14 mircea_popescu stalin's industrializatrion fires were stoked by litographs of the batiushka tzar ; and napoleon's grandee armee was powered by the invisible machinery of richelieu and mazarin.
15:14 mircea_popescu asciilifeform nobody has yet made a new sofa, nor will they.
15:15 mircea_popescu the only point that makes a difference is who burns the sofas, and how they do it.
15:16 asciilifeform how does it make a difference ?
15:16 mircea_popescu the sofas, to be clear, are teh young women and teh young men who aspire to them. the former will graze, and in between their legs which run perl sofas constantly grow to be burned.
15:17 mircea_popescu now -- when old women do the burning, you get a lot of choking smoke and very little fire.
15:17 mircea_popescu a miserable mode.
15:17 mircea_popescu and contrary to old woman pretense, a mode actually preferred by no-one.
15:17 asciilifeform if i didn't know better, i'd think mircea_popescu were an escapee from egypt or usa. in su 'old woman' counted for 0.
15:17 asciilifeform could not possibly have worked on this model.
15:18 mircea_popescu whole fucking pantsuit ideology being an endless repeat of the ridiculous cycle of 1. saint pantsuit told us everyone loves raymond ; 2. apparently nobody can stand raymond ; 3. wut do ? which you know, "gotta educate teh public abou raymond" etc.
15:18 mircea_popescu asciilifeform this is VERY MUCH not so.
15:18 asciilifeform unless 'old woman' is term of art here, and does not refer to actual oldwoman
15:18 mircea_popescu look at how polite and shy phf is and you'll see the hands of old woman all over society.
15:18 mircea_popescu no, it is a term of art that DOES refer to actual old woman.
15:18 asciilifeform i thought that was just from smoking too much hookah
15:18 mircea_popescu perhaps it is.
15:19 asciilifeform 'И, склонясь в дыму кальяна На цветной диван, У жемчужного фонтана Дремлет Тегеран' (tm)(r)(lermontov)
15:19 mircea_popescu but lets not talk of the absent, and instead fish it out of your own log lines.
15:20 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-14#1643375 << who do you think is responsible for wall rug ? granpa or granma ?
15:20 a111 Logged on 2017-04-14 00:41 asciilifeform: in classical su rug like this is 1) on floor 2) on wall (usually next to bed)
15:21 asciilifeform whoever scored it on the market one day, presumably
15:21 mircea_popescu but the ~thought~. the mental space where this notion fits, who made that vacuole ? who maintains it ?
15:21 mircea_popescu who, in the dispute between "we shall move, this place is too cold to live in, and to ugly to boot" provided the "solution" ?
15:21 asciilifeform move where, lol
15:22 mircea_popescu to the other world, obviously.
15:22 asciilifeform still living in this mental space of choices.
15:22 mircea_popescu who still has business to attend in this one ?
15:22 mircea_popescu who knows which perfectly fine way the bread is right and which perfectly fine way the bread is terrible ? who approves or disapperoves of the young girl's curtsy ?
15:22 mircea_popescu who even gives a shit, at all, about the things ?
15:23 mircea_popescu who knoes, or notices, whether the three year old should be naked outdoors or not ? who counts the gray of linens to make comments in church ?
15:23 * asciilifeform gets the drift
15:23 mircea_popescu no but i shall insist for the rest ofg the day, because not only do i have a whole silo of these things, but, importantly, it is THE PILE not the item that makes the point.
15:23 asciilifeform but mircea_popescu himself had observation where 'not the fault of the spring, for being springy, if the ratchet broke'
15:24 mircea_popescu i am not proposing fault ; but responsibility.
15:24 mircea_popescu old women make terrible parties, and that's all there is to it.
15:24 asciilifeform they make ok preflight checklist tho.
15:24 mircea_popescu if alloyed.
15:25 mircea_popescu otherwise, left to their own devices, they make preflight lists consisting of 1. do not fly and then an endless enumerations of items to avoid the reader ever finishing his evaluation of the list.
15:25 asciilifeform they keep these annoying yappydogs too
15:25 mircea_popescu the poor darlings would starve without.
15:25 asciilifeform lol
15:27 mircea_popescu whole generation of dorks and dupes whined in unison "COOOOOME .... AAAS YOU ARE!!!!!" and what, i'm supposed to not notice what that was all about ?
15:27 mircea_popescu "we have to prepare for having a child!" "you prepare, bitch, i'm already as erect as im gonna get."
15:29 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2014-12-08#948416 << relatedly.
15:29 a111 Logged on 2014-12-08 17:41 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://yarchive.net/med/social_osteoporosis.html << related hypothesis
15:30 mircea_popescu contemporary anthropology, as a day-to-day endeavour, suddenly ended one day in the 90s when they finally saw pulp fiction. the heard s l jackson go "if my answers scare you, stop asking scary questions" and there was a collective sigh from the entire fucking profession.
~ 1 hours 6 minutes ~
16:36 deedbot http://trilema.com/2017/the-perennial-harriette-wilson/ << Trilema - The perennial Harriette Wilson.
16:38 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: 'heavens own her a debt' --> owe ??
16:38 mircea_popescu aty
16:40 asciilifeform meanwhile #3 of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-17#1685423 >> 179m53.647s ( loaded with naught but the benchmarkthing )
16:40 a111 Logged on 2017-07-17 17:39 asciilifeform: meanwhile #2 of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-17#1685349 , with less extraneous load >>>> 202m2.191s .
16:41 mircea_popescu btw, someone make a txt of the list of all factorials up to say 65536 and publish it on yer blog. it dun seem to exist online.
16:41 asciilifeform and sooo it turns out that the current champ horse, from among the x86 runners, is...
16:41 asciilifeform ~drumroll~
16:41 asciilifeform a 'lenovo w540' lappy.
16:41 mircea_popescu lol!
16:41 asciilifeform ( and not the much larger, costlier comps )
16:41 asciilifeform race included, e.g., dulap.
16:42 asciilifeform turns out the initial suspicion was correct, memory bandwidth is the ~sole determinant.
16:43 asciilifeform now for somebody to run on non-x86.
16:43 asciilifeform ( anybody got a, e.g., mips64, that ain't otherwise booked ?? )
16:50 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: you want decimal or hex factorials ?
16:51 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/oV3pr/?raw=true << gives decimal
16:51 mircea_popescu either should be fine. hex less space, decimal easier for total noobs.
16:52 mircea_popescu a nice.
16:52 asciilifeform ( not very efficient proggy, but uses minimum of code not-posted-before-nao )
16:52 asciilifeform it's about half-done here.
16:52 asciilifeform i suppose we post times-tables next....
16:52 mircea_popescu what can you do.
16:52 mircea_popescu "everything is online".
16:53 mircea_popescu "really ? factorial table ?" "no i meant, fanfic about simpson episodes" "ah ok then"
16:53 asciilifeform yeah i went to look for one the other day and headache
16:54 mircea_popescu very acultural world, this anglotardlandia.
16:55 asciilifeform this thing promises to be north of 500MB when done
16:55 mircea_popescu so like a sex tape
16:55 asciilifeform aha
16:55 asciilifeform old secam sextape
16:56 asciilifeform 'пал рим, и пал секам...' (tm)(r)( asciilifeform's brother )
16:57 mircea_popescu lol
17:01 mircea_popescu anyway, for the record, "oh, and what is the use of storing 500mb when i can calculate this in seconds" : because, dumbass, you might want as we wanted TO HAVE SOMETHING TO COMPARE YOUR CALCULATIONS TO.
17:01 mircea_popescu bs "what is the point of star maps, you can just look out the window".
17:01 asciilifeform addition table!111
17:01 mircea_popescu actually used to exist.
17:02 asciilifeform anybody recall when i proposed a 'cpu' made 98% by weight of old roms ?
17:02 mircea_popescu yes.
17:02 asciilifeform you can do almost anything via lookup table.
17:02 mircea_popescu yes.
17:10 asciilifeform ( the endgame of this method, of course, is illustrated here -- http://btcbase.org/log/2016-01-21#1380077 )
17:10 a111 Logged on 2016-01-21 19:49 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: when i was a small boy, my elder brother taught me a lesson once:
17:11 mircea_popescu sure, culture is not intended to be either a prison or an answer (these haven't yet been unglued). nevertheless, the young man who does not understand why have cameras in the bedroom when mirrors suffice is the fundamental anticultural agent.
17:12 mircea_popescu "but you can't film everything" "of course not" "the noise is distracting" "Youi'll get used to it" "but why!" "you'll see."
17:12 asciilifeform i dungetit, people tripped over each other's heads in the hurry to buy cameras for bedroom, toilet, etc
17:12 asciilifeform who was it who said 'eh mirror suffices' ?
17:13 asciilifeform dunno if today you can buy even electric mop without a camera.
17:13 mircea_popescu ironically -- me :) but that's a different story.
17:13 asciilifeform lol!
17:13 mircea_popescu it is STILL the fundamental anticultural agency.
17:16 mircea_popescu consider though, how easily it flips on its head. mp recommends blogging, which was fashionable like cameraing was at some point, but no longer. and "you can't film everything stays the same", and "but the noise is distracting" morphs into "but i am afraid my well hidden shortcvomings which nobody can otherwise observe may be exposed" and who's teh anticultural nao.
17:18 mircea_popescu !!up user705
17:18 deedbot user705 voiced for 30 minutes.
17:18 user705 cool pop in here for first time and MP is here
17:19 mircea_popescu im generally here.
17:19 user705 what be the proper way to ask questions
17:19 mircea_popescu just ask
17:20 user705 is your view on the segwit lite that seems to be bandied about as the solution same as segwit2x which is just outright wrong?
17:21 mircea_popescu you'll have to unwrap that into something that makes sense. say what ?
17:22 user705 the hard fork that was proposed by idiots who claimed to be the economic majority but forgot to sign their BTC balances to actually prove that is obviously a non starter
17:22 user705 but what is your view on just the segwit part?
17:23 user705 is that still considered to be a block size increase and therefore will lead to a lot of pain for many?
17:24 mircea_popescu let's approach the easier end of this. the necessary precondition for any fork succieeding on the bitcoin network was set forth last year : http://trilema.com/2016/the-necessary-prerequisite-for-any-change-to-the-bitcoin-protocol/
17:24 mircea_popescu no fork will succeed that does not satisfy that.
17:25 user705 hmm I read a lot of trilemma must've missed that one
17:25 user705 brb
17:25 mircea_popescu inexplicably, as the dorks made a lot of noise about it then and have studiously pretended to have forgotten all about it ever since, as if that's how this works now.
17:29 * asciilifeform reread the piece and ended up in the old luby thread, lol
17:32 mircea_popescu aha.
17:32 mircea_popescu not a half bad idea at that.
17:34 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> very acultural world, this anglotardlandia. << AHA, not even AGRIcultural anymore
17:35 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: aha, i have not since found a better pill, nor afaik has anyone else.
17:35 asciilifeform i suspect that it is The Right Thing.
17:35 mircea_popescu nor has the matter been seriously considered by actual thinkers.
17:35 mircea_popescu just the periodic herd wank on turner's captive cow sites.
17:36 BingoBoingo user705: Also, see recent new coverage on Qntra http://qntra.net/2017/07/drama-heats-up-as-fiatbitcoin-interfaces-prepare-for-next-round-of-fork-failures/ and most recently http://qntra.net/2017/07/usg-domain-squatters-hype-soon-to-fail-luke-jrxt-fork/
17:36 user705 I did
17:36 user705 that's why I decided to finally go to the source
17:36 * mircea_popescu suspected as much
17:36 BingoBoingo Ah, then perhaps read older Qntra too? Not much has changed since 2015. Enemies of Bitcoin simply cycling through new names as old ones burn credibility
17:37 BingoBoingo Hence going all the way back to 2013 scammer Luke-jr
17:37 BingoBoingo That's how many names have been burned
17:38 user705 the instinctual understanding is that hardfork is obviously bad but the way this new softfork was being sold I guess I got bamboozled a bit
17:39 mircea_popescu kinda why the entire fake media exists in the first place.
17:39 mircea_popescu sanity apparently doesn't hold up well to insistent stupidity.
17:39 whaack the idea that segwit is safer because it is a "soft fork" is nonsense. during a hard fork one can vote with their coins. soft forks are a sneak attack to add a new rule on the part of the miners.
17:39 user705 stupidity has infinite hitpoints someone once said
17:39 mircea_popescu they did.
17:40 mircea_popescu anyway, the paradigmatic "soft fork" is "we will not mine transactions involving 1Terrorists address". permitting any other one is simply going towards this at whatever pace and from whatever distance.
17:41 mircea_popescu all soft forks are temporary ; and WILL be unwound.
17:46 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2015-12-28#1355445 << see also thread.
17:46 a111 Logged on 2015-12-28 18:09 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-12-2015#1355361 << quite. all this verbiage about how "oh lalala, if miners stop enforcing X fork they will be excluded" fails to account for the fact that unlike the various PRBs, TRB does NOT actually implement any of the soft forks. so no, they won't be "excluded". nobody will notice they stopped.
17:47 mircea_popescu aha
17:53 mircea_popescu !!up user705
17:53 deedbot user705 voiced for 30 minutes.
17:58 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i was thinking, at some point really gotta write up the luby-pow thing into a proper algo
17:58 user705 how would one mine on the correct chain or would it not be possible because of pools?
17:58 mircea_popescu user705 you would mine then as you mine now. if you're pool mining, select a pool that isn't scamming you then , just as you would now.
17:59 mircea_popescu the notion that 1 august bears any relevancy is entirely borne out of spending too much time on social media.
18:00 mircea_popescu well, "social media". usg's astroturf for its own sheeple. much like you know, the notion that "embargo of russia" or "recapture of mosul -- two weeks starting in 2016", the sort of ideas with no further substance than "i really watch too much tv"
18:01 user705 unfortunately true. have to work hard to change. mining now is an unprofitable venture. but with this fork would coinbase transactions be impacted? no right? but pools would pay out from that so how would it work when it all unwinds?
18:02 mircea_popescu i'm not sure what you're asking. if i send a bitcoin to someone, no third party can do anything to it.
18:02 mircea_popescu do you mean, coinbase as in mining rewards ?
18:02 user705 yes
18:02 mircea_popescu a block will still pay what it pays now.
18:02 mircea_popescu at least afaik they've not yet built up the cheek to pretend to change that part.
18:02 user705 to the pool then on to individual miners
18:03 mircea_popescu if you use a pool.
18:03 user705 yes
18:03 mircea_popescu so, ample opportunity for the entrepreneurial -- start a pool that's not a scam, if all others are, or you perceive they might be.
18:03 user705 so with bigger blocks vs smaller blocks the clusterfuck will be epic
18:03 mircea_popescu ~nothing observable will happen.
18:06 asciilifeform nothing observable to ~people~ -- i.e. folx using trb -- yes. to redditus running gavincoin etc - thermonukokalypse
18:06 mircea_popescu i thought wediditreddit was ~weekly eveny anyway, in their own little cesspool.
18:09 user705 how would the endgame unfold? this "soft" fork will just become a hard fork. right or how would it unwind?
18:10 whaack It's been "the critical moment for a fork" since I've known about btc
18:11 mircea_popescu far as i can tell, people who can't retain employment will whine about it for the next two weeks as if it were a thing, then the date will come, nothing whatsoewver will happebn, and they'll just move on to whining about some other pie in the sky
18:11 mircea_popescu in preference of saying "i was a fucktard and i shall not be a fucktard any longer".
18:11 mircea_popescu ie, path of least resistance.
18:11 mircea_popescu mahahahaybe a few of them will actually manage to find a job instead of dicking around online, but it seems unlikely. who wants to employ an idle ustard and what useful could they do ?
18:14 mircea_popescu but at any event -- i do not care what bitcoin client joe reddit "uses". he has no money in the first place ; and even if he had money he has nothing interesting to do with them. sloshing the payola back and forth from one usg pocket to another is scarcely worth wasting paper, let alone bitcoin ledger.
18:14 mircea_popescu jane reddit may care, or at the least pretend to care what bitcoin client joe reddit uses, in obvious exchange of joe reddit pretending to care about "that one time she was almost raped".
18:15 mircea_popescu but they, both joint and several, can't possibly influence the world.
18:15 user705 Bitmain seemed pretty serious with it's footstomping though
18:15 mircea_popescu and not because it would be racist to try ; but because they are impotent.
18:15 mircea_popescu user705 so ?
18:16 mircea_popescu bitmain can either make bitcoin miners or not make bitcoin miners. this isn't evben a choice -- for as long as they can they'll make, and once they become irrelevant they won't make. whether they also whine with it or not... who cares.
18:16 user705 true but they certainly can try to cut off the nose to spite the face so to speak
18:16 mircea_popescu so let them. if it works we needed a new bitcoin anyway.
18:17 mircea_popescu and if it doesn't work, it'll just be case #517 or whatever the count is at of self important ustard dorks.
18:17 mircea_popescu how's "the toomim brothers" doing these days ?
18:17 mircea_popescu still wheelin' an' dealin' teh blockchain seas ?
18:25 shinohai https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/zmvg58/hacker-allegedly-steals-dollar74-million-in-ethereum-with-incredibly-simple-trick <<< This is so hilarious I almost wrote it up ....
18:25 mircea_popescu next step on ethereum's fascinating journey being "the one weird trick hacker used to make 74 trillion"
18:26 asciilifeform also pgp never existed, apparently
18:26 asciilifeform nor is there such a thing as a signature
18:26 asciilifeform in fact we are in a everettiverse where nobody invented publickey
18:27 mircea_popescu outbrain eagerly awaits the brainchild of mit, or, to quote, "She does stink. And she should quit. But I don't want it to be because of me. It should be the traditional route. Years of rejection and failure until she's spit out the bottom of the porn industry."
18:28 asciilifeform best part : 'In the official Coindash Slack channel, the app's developers wrote that all investors, even if they sent funds to the phony address, will receive tokens. "All CoinDash investors will get their tokens," the developers wrote in Slack. "We are working to solve the situation."'
18:28 asciilifeform didjaknow.
18:28 mircea_popescu heh
18:28 asciilifeform dilutola just as good as original scam!!
18:28 mircea_popescu asciilifeform this is actually true in their case.
18:28 mircea_popescu !~calc 0*75 = 0*70
18:28 jhvh1 mircea_popescu: I could not find an output from Google Calc for: 0*75 = 0*70
18:29 mircea_popescu well jhvh1 look into the official coindash slack channel then
18:30 mircea_popescu impotence is teh least racist of all!
18:30 mircea_popescu !!up Floog
18:30 deedbot Floog voiced for 30 minutes.
18:31 mircea_popescu floog who are you again ?
18:31 floog some dude who found your blog and found the conversation interesting enough to lurk
18:31 mircea_popescu i see.
18:34 mircea_popescu incidentally alf dilutola would make a great postapocalyptic fizz
18:34 mircea_popescu if you ever make fallout-alf...
18:34 asciilifeform lolyes
18:37 BingoBoingo lol, could be great pet-project
18:44 mircea_popescu !!up daffadil
18:44 deedbot daffadil voiced for 30 minutes.
18:44 floog im trying to understand the purpose of V.from the python code it seems like some sort of interpersonal network tool, but that's about as far as i've been able to get
18:45 mircea_popescu no, it's a versioning system
18:46 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2015-08-31#1257062 etc
18:46 a111 Logged on 2015-08-31 07:10 deedbot-: [Trilema] No Such lAbs releases V for Victory. - http://trilema.com/2015/no-such-labs-releases-v-for-victory/
18:46 BingoBoingo To be fair, V is the premier tool for anti-social networking
18:46 mircea_popescu http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2016/02/07_v-tronics-101-a-gentle-introduction-to-the-most-serene-republic-of-bitcoins-cryptographically-backed-version-control-system.html
18:47 asciilifeform floog: see also http://cascadianhacker.com/07_v-tronics-101-a-gentle-introduction-to-the-most-serene-republic-of-bitcoins-cryptographically-backed-version-control-system .
18:47 mircea_popescu ha-HA!
18:47 asciilifeform probably best, to date, n00b tutorial on subj
18:48 daffadil "Friendship" is just a transient software patch that we install on one another.
18:48 mircea_popescu how's the sv scene ?
18:49 daffadil Pretty chill right now ~
18:49 floog ill take a look
18:49 floog thx
18:50 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: good noose : list of factorials 0..65536 is here.
18:50 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: bad noose : 9G
18:50 asciilifeform want it /
18:50 asciilifeform ?
18:50 mircea_popescu o.O
18:50 asciilifeform ( folx who followed the stirling thread, should not be surprised )
18:51 mircea_popescu sure.
18:51 asciilifeform aite, i'ma gzip & upload.
18:51 mircea_popescu ty
18:51 asciilifeform http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/xbK3i/?raw=true << proggy it was output of.
18:51 asciilifeform ( any other method, is impractically slow )
18:52 asciilifeform 'we dunno WHY you asked for 9,000 defective transistors, but for your convenience we have packaged them here separately!'
18:53 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i have a plan.
18:53 asciilifeform aite.
18:53 mircea_popescu actually, let's save on teh upload and tell you the plan :
18:54 mircea_popescu lettuce create a bitmap image 1024px wide, 32 bit color depth, so that each factorial is followed by a white line, and each pixel from left to right contains 3 bytes of data.
18:54 mircea_popescu that "abstract art" work we shall call the colors of factorial.
18:54 asciilifeform gonna snip the 0s or not ?
18:55 mircea_popescu leading 0s yes.
18:55 mircea_popescu late 0s no.
18:55 asciilifeform there ain't any leading 0s, wtf
18:55 asciilifeform ( exercise for reader: prove that 'factorials.txt' will consist %% of late 0s. what is %% ? and is it independent of base ? )
18:56 floog okay, that makes a lot more sense now
18:56 asciilifeform floog: what did you think v was ? and from where did you hear of it ?
18:56 mircea_popescu some github i'd guess.
18:57 asciilifeform that doesn't explain how he'd end up here.
18:58 floog i was reading http://satoshi.nakamotoinstitute.org/ which linked to a blog, which linked to trilema
18:59 mircea_popescu o was that rochard's thing ?
19:00 floog contravex/bitcoinpete
19:00 mircea_popescu cool.
19:01 BingoBoingo Rochard's thing that occasionally archives pete
19:01 BingoBoingo !!up floog
19:01 deedbot floog voiced for 30 minutes.
19:01 floog i thought it had more to do with tracking people in your wot, which ive just become barely familiar with. but i only briefly skimmed the V.py implementation
19:02 floog a brief skim clearly wasnt enough
19:03 mircea_popescu yes, the ample towers and bridges of the most serene republic's capitol may take a while to mentally unwrap.
19:03 mircea_popescu sina's actually working on something closer to your original idea, gossipd.
19:07 floog ive been looking for something to mentally unwrap, so it seems ive stumbled into the right place
19:07 mircea_popescu enjoy.
19:07 mircea_popescu oh and consider registering your key so you can voice.
19:08 floog how?
19:08 mircea_popescu see bots.contravex, re deedbot
19:09 shinohai http://deedbot.org/help.html
19:09 mircea_popescu also.
19:10 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: http://nosuchlabs.com/pub/fct.txt.gz , sha512==5edb867b1a3c7eac1cc3c1e2eddb8c501958f018a98af0d99fa35501c6697269b78f18c7a3d7857efcef313ed6c2410876aca00de51209cf77063d5a6e49f594
19:11 mircea_popescu ty
19:11 asciilifeform np.
19:13 asciilifeform ( ~4G gzipped )
19:13 mircea_popescu looks lkike 4 hrs
19:14 asciilifeform took 5min to upload..
19:14 mircea_popescu what's the format like ? will hafta write a converter
19:15 asciilifeform exactly 65536 ascii lines
19:15 mircea_popescu a perfect.
19:15 asciilifeform each containing a decimal num.
19:15 asciilifeform terminated by ln.
19:15 asciilifeform is all.
19:15 mircea_popescu very nice.
19:15 floog !!register http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/EcG9n/?raw=true
19:15 deedbot 7B308B69A7CD283E3B7549DBE9B833266594AD15 is already registered as floog.
19:15 mircea_popescu ah ?
19:15 mircea_popescu !!gettrust deedbot floog
19:15 deedbot L1: 0, L2: 0 by 0 connections.
19:15 floog hm... did i do it already?
19:16 mircea_popescu apparently ?
19:16 mircea_popescu try !!up
19:16 floog !!up
19:16 deedbot You may not $up yourself.
19:16 mircea_popescu a sec
19:16 mircea_popescu !!rate floog 1 perhaps he's stumbled into the right place
19:16 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/BDRoP/?raw=true
19:16 mircea_popescu !!v 189E07B50F03BF618F2E0437D6490449184B1DD31D1ACA9E6189A1CA399D3602
19:16 deedbot mircea_popescu rated floog 1 << perhaps he's stumbled into the right place
19:17 mircea_popescu floog try nao
19:17 floog !!up
19:17 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/WuFpQ/?raw=true
19:21 floog !!v 4F41A7CF723A1E05E19D827D600AE03F470F599E475287F2C3BC01275DB26499
19:21 deedbot You are now voiced in #trilema
19:22 floog neat
~ 17 minutes ~
19:40 mircea_popescu so there you go.
19:42 floog http://cascadianhacker.com/how-to-actually-learn-programming seems like a good next step for me
19:42 mircea_popescu it works if you work it.
19:44 floog ?
19:44 mircea_popescu you know, if it seems a good next step then it likely is.
19:46 floog well, the intro seems all too relevant to my current situation as a "software engineer" at a hightraffic clickbait website
19:46 mircea_popescu you poor soul.
19:47 floog at least it pays for the whale of student debt from the private uni that my parents convinced me was a good investment
19:48 mircea_popescu you poor soul!
19:49 asciilifeform http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1821&cpage=1#comment-18258 << in other lulz
19:50 floog emphasis on 'poor'
19:50 mircea_popescu asciilifeform heh i guess you're the internets sageprobe authority. cuz everything is online and mit keeps churning out experts
19:51 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: original vendor's site loooong gone. so -- apparently yes
19:51 mircea_popescu aha.
19:51 mircea_popescu in truth avbout half engineering careers of any brightness started with a 15yo in a junkshop going " i wonder if worth "
19:55 asciilifeform the demise of sage co. is imho an interesting thing. afaik amd very specifically killed it -- locked the debug port, as explained in http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-04#1552690
19:55 a111 Logged on 2016-10-04 15:36 asciilifeform: ACHTUNG, PANZERS! pc engines 'apu2' (the board with the intel nics - vs. 'apu1', with realtek) , turns out, is crippled, hdt probe barfs with it, the cpu is reputed to have a drm fuse set.
19:56 asciilifeform about the same time as when amd stopped contributing to 'coreboot'
19:56 asciilifeform ( i.e. when nsa was tightening the bolts , unifying the 'we control the vertical and horizontal' thing )
19:59 mod6 evenin'
19:59 asciilifeform heya mod6
20:07 mod6 http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-17#1685337 << second run on same environment was 'real 313m33.341s'; results of the diff between my 65536! and yours: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/xxuX9/?raw=true
20:07 a111 Logged on 2017-07-17 12:23 mod6: asciilifeform: real 313m41.727s
20:08 mod6 <+mircea_popescu> http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-17#1685355 << he has a point. plus it seems to never work for me. << noted
20:08 a111 Logged on 2017-07-17 13:32 asciilifeform: live is too short to attempt to use eyeballs as diff.
20:09 mircea_popescu in other lulz, takes this box longer to sha, or to gzip, than it takes to download.
20:16 mod6 <+asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: bad noose : 9G << heh, ok pr0n dvd
~ 22 minutes ~
20:39 mircea_popescu and in other "a proper weight has its advantages", http://68.media.tumblr.com/7c1877d605646a19a6befb96c5cfbadc/tumblr_ogygp6HaoA1r2sy0fo1_540.gif
20:41 mod6 <+asciilifeform> exactly 65536 ascii lines << sweet
20:44 mod6 some proper anal right there
20:44 mircea_popescu i'm sorry ? pooper what you say ?
20:44 mod6 haha.
20:44 mircea_popescu :p
20:45 mod6 <+mircea_popescu> that "abstract art" work we shall call the colors of factorial. << this sounds interesting
20:53 floog http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-17#1685784 why is the blue version better than the red version of 'applied crypto'?
20:54 mod6 ben_vulpes lays it out there eh?
20:55 mod6 there've been a bunch of threads on it in the logs.
20:56 floog well, it just says 'redacted the actual goodies'
21:00 mod6 hehe, i just stumbled across this: http://btcbase.org/log/2013-10-12#349139 and http://btcbase.org/log/2013-10-12#349209
21:00 mircea_popescu phf is a111 sick ?
21:04 mod6 damn these old logs.
21:04 mod6 fun to read this stuff
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21:25 mircea_popescu hehe
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22:02 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/A61681083D411A69B9D431A7AB342C455D3533E16F186CD6D87C1328471F3838 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1741...1867 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '188.231.154.26 (ssh-rsa key from 188.231.154.26 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (geosinteh.com. UA 30)
22:02 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/A61681083D411A69B9D431A7AB342C455D3533E16F186CD6D87C1328471F3838 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1542...3683 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '188.231.154.26 (ssh-rsa key from 188.231.154.26 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (geosinteh.com. UA 30)
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22:36 mircea_popescu and in other great suits, http://68.media.tumblr.com/9c99afcae815353714400dea7e4a744f/tumblr_od3e4rJaKf1u5gkkao1_1280.jpg
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23:07 BingoBoingo <floog> at least it pays for the whale of student debt from the private uni that my parents convinced me was a good investment << Get fiat poor, stop paying, admit powerlessness. You are at rock bottom. Your bankruptcy now is not a financial one, but a moral and spiritual one. However THERE IS A SOLUTION!
23:08 BingoBoingo <floog> emphasis on 'poor' << Next come to believe that a HIGHER POWER (perhaps one your came here to unwrap) can restore you to sanity
23:10 BingoBoingo !!up badD00d
23:10 deedbot badD00d voiced for 30 minutes.
23:10 BingoBoingo badD00d: Who is your daddy and what does he do?
23:10 badD00d my daddy, for your fucking information is.... alive and well
23:10 BingoBoingo <mod6> some proper anal right there << Also great example of the importance of selecting the woman for ergonomics.
23:11 badD00d question for the TRB node running gentlemen
23:11 BingoBoingo Well, that's somewhat informative.
23:12 badD00d will TRB nodes start rejecting blocks whenever BIP91 or other bologna segwit proposals gain the majority hashing power?
23:13 BingoBoingo TRB will continue accepting valid blocks
23:13 asciilifeform and rejection liquishit tomorrow just as it did yesterday.
23:13 asciilifeform *of
23:13 asciilifeform dun matter what kind.
23:13 badD00d right, and I respect that. I guess I am wondering when you think the majority of hashing power will start agreeing on non-legit shit blocks?
23:14 badD00d like at some point, the shitty masses are going to start consuming their fake shitty blocks.
23:15 mircea_popescu so ?
23:15 mircea_popescu they're consuming teh fiat dollars as it is, doesn't seem to have much impact on anything.
23:15 badD00d I am wondering if you have an estimation as to when this will be and as a second questions (if TRB nodes will be the ONLY non-shit accepting nodes, or if you think there are other groups of people running nodes that will side with your nodes and continue rejecting shit
23:16 mircea_popescu your question is ill posed. if tomorrow a large enough collection of idiots decides to call making hooky "bitcoin", this will be great and good and entirely uninteresting for bitcoin.
23:16 mircea_popescu if the us fed starts printing "one hundred bitcoin" bills instead of the current one hundred dollar bills, this'll also do ~nothing as far as nayone is concerned.
23:17 mircea_popescu the notion that bitcoin can somehow by stolen by name is so ridoinculous as to betray its ustardian origins. bitcoin is not a name.
23:18 BingoBoingo badD00d: TRB now WILL accept segwit blocks, but it will not parse the segwit'd portion as anything other than "anyone can spend"
23:22 floog BingoBoingo: I'm going to keep paying my bills, i'd rather not get rammed by the USG when it comes after its money. im cool with everything else though
23:22 mircea_popescu apparently the "it REALLY doesn't matter what you do" point is entirely incomprehensible to teh esl.
23:22 mircea_popescu floog the only reason you're not getting rammed is that you don't have anything worth stealing.
23:22 BingoBoingo floog: Nah, that's the thing. If you make yourself fiat poor THEY en-PRIVILEDGE YOU
23:23 BingoBoingo The solution is get poor, stack up some turkeys, and blow the joint
23:24 badD00d anyway, thanks for putting up with my questions
23:24 floog where do get turkeys? where do run after turkeys acquired?
23:24 mircea_popescu ikr ?
23:25 mircea_popescu meanwhile at dedicated slut camp, http://68.media.tumblr.com/78838a7a2be17a5c7d1032186851423c/tumblr_myflcjUUTE1qjhn09o1_400.gif
23:26 asciilifeform mircea_popescu or anybody ever so far bothered to count the total coin presently sitting in 'anyonecanspend' ?
23:26 BingoBoingo !http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=turkey+dollars
23:27 asciilifeform probably even nao a pretty good haul for the first serious miner to break cartel and unwind the 'soft' liquishit
23:27 mircea_popescu (echo "obase=16" ; cat fct.txt) | bc >> fact-hex.txt works as expected to convert btw.
23:27 asciilifeform oughta, neh
23:28 mircea_popescu asciilifeform sorta job each miner gotta do for himself neh ?
23:28 mircea_popescu eventually, i expect they will.
23:28 asciilifeform i can already almost smell the shat pants
23:28 mircea_popescu thing is, time builds only one way on that.
23:29 mircea_popescu the taller the tower of shit, the certainer the doom.
23:29 asciilifeform and the moar spectacular.
23:29 mircea_popescu indeed.
23:30 asciilifeform though i imagine the plan of the pantshits is to cement the 'soft' fork as hard, somehow
23:30 asciilifeform before day-x
23:30 mircea_popescu eh, plans.
23:30 mircea_popescu "we'll call it classic and pretend like it's totally different in our fakenews rags"
23:30 mircea_popescu that's a plan.
23:31 asciilifeform iirc prb already is written to reject blocks that attempt to 'illicitly' spend the perfectly legitimately anyonecanspendolade
23:31 asciilifeform so technically already forked, long ago, only latently.
23:31 mircea_popescu sooooo ?
23:32 asciilifeform petrol poured, only needs match.
23:32 mircea_popescu by this understanding of forking, everyone running a bitcoin node on a box that's lost internet connection "forked"
23:32 asciilifeform 1 d00d with borked modem is 1 d00d , 9000 is a northkr
23:32 asciilifeform possibly model is the latter.
23:33 BingoBoingo KKKoreaCoin
23:33 mircea_popescu but anyway, it's quite evident and not a matter open to much dispute that a whole lot of not-really-into-bitcoin barnacles have been steadily accumulating, at least in their own esitmation, since 2012 or so.
23:33 mircea_popescu they get scraped off, new sets come on, it's the fate of ship on open seas.
23:34 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-13#1683139 ie "the bitcoin banking cartel" very much apropos.
23:35 mircea_popescu ie, people will drop ~a specific form~ of a stupid idea just as soon as it's literally beaten from their cold, dead hands, AND NEVER BEFORE.
23:35 mircea_popescu "gotta try!"
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