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00:00 mircea_popescu !!rated revnja
00:00 deedbot mircea_popescu has not rated revnja.
00:00 mircea_popescu !!reputation revnja
00:00 deedbot http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/G5aPc/?raw=true
00:09 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-02#1762207 << muahahahaha!
00:09 a111 Logged on 2018-01-02 03:55 ben_vulpes: myup that is 'the website' alrighty
00:10 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-02#1762213 << did you write it ?
00:10 a111 Logged on 2018-01-02 03:56 esthlos: http://notes.esthlos.com/notes/2018-01-01-ultima-ratio-regum.txt << an offering
00:13 mircea_popescu !#s westphalia
00:13 a111 5 results for "westphalia", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=westphalia
00:14 mircea_popescu ah, nm, it was apparently in http://trilema.com/2016/cia-factbook-the-most-serene-republic/#footnote_2_68314
00:19 mircea_popescu anyway, i had no idea anyone actually read bobbitt. for the sake of likbezing -- the last gasp of the western academic tradition (rip 1999, "bologna declaration") was this pile of cvasi-blog publications, trying to bring together what (scant) was left of scholarly knowledge and the limited forms of public consumption still vaguely functional. they're rather immediately evident for their structure, reference tree, even the tit
00:19 mircea_popescu ular conventions ("simple english" titles that admit a direct and somewhat meaningful interpretation while also referencing literary cannon, generally layeredly [there's both a modern poem as well as an item of that name in the instant case]), but not universally terrible.
00:20 mircea_popescu the most positive light to shine upon political hacks such as curtis yarvin would be that they "continue" this decay.
00:21 mircea_popescu the whole thing is basically "hey, middle earth worked for the oxford gang, nothing else worked in the post-war period, might as well apply it. what choice do we have ?"
00:27 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-02#1762219 << his obvious counter is thart it's insane to arrange things such that progeny would come -ev.
00:27 a111 Logged on 2018-01-02 04:08 ben_vulpes: why is it insane to not waste the resources on the quite likely -ev project of progeny?
00:28 mircea_popescu (this is mostly needed for the illusion of the female state to be maintained -- you can bet your sweet ass, literally speaking, that if there's money to be made in childbearing there's no "right of choice", nor does "no means yes, yes means yes, anal means we'll burn you at the stake" need any stating for how obvious it is)
00:32 ben_vulpes tangentially related, i was browsing the pantsuit history of victory in eradication of child labor just last night!
00:33 ben_vulpes but afaik you are correct in that the formulation hasta be "if you can't raise them as a +ev proposition, you didn't have any business doing it in the first place" and just like everything else of +/- ev in this world, there is only one way to know if you can pull it off
00:36 mircea_popescu ahaha child labour was erradicated ?
00:37 mircea_popescu when the fuck did that happen. or rather, WHERE ? same alt-universe where "isis was defeated ; war in afghanistan won ; war on drugs victories" etcetera i expect ?
00:37 mircea_popescu for the record -- it's deeply idiotic to try and prevent children from working. about as stupid as trying to prevent them from fucking adults, actually.
00:38 mircea_popescu human culture is entirely dependent on these transmission processes, if you don't work & fuck the kids they'll exterminate you when they come of age, and for the proper reason : you're little more than a bug to them.
00:50 ben_vulpes soi-disant victory i shoulda said
00:50 ben_vulpes because "not done in usa, and we don't shop at target because child slavery!"
00:50 ben_vulpes this is victory, ysee
00:55 mircea_popescu of course it's done in usa, are you kidding me ?
00:56 mircea_popescu go to montgomery. leave tonight, can have 13 yo prostitute sucking you off with her friend before sun goes down on the horizon again
00:56 mircea_popescu o wait, alabama not in usatoday, i forgot a little.
00:56 mircea_popescu good thing same exact thing's not entirely just as true in southern cali or the outskirts of seattle then.
00:57 ben_vulpes look i'm not saying that this is so, merely that it is claimed to be so.
00:57 ben_vulpes what you think i don't shop at target because some confusion of hairshirt ethics and economics? no, they sell plastic trash, that's why i don't.
00:59 mircea_popescu i thjought white guys shop at the gap
01:00 ben_vulpes gap, cocoa-cola, banana republic, pepsi, target, nordstrom, macys, ford, chevrolet...
01:01 ben_vulpes just statsheet yrself up a personality, the kit even comes with stamps and an ink pad!
01:04 mircea_popescu i thought nordstrom is for like, blond girls that play volleyball
01:04 revnja mmm cocoa-cola
01:07 ben_vulpes well and the aspirational bank tellers the poor dears hafta teach how to dress
01:08 mircea_popescu btw, shouldn't chocolate be illegal in the us ?
01:08 mircea_popescu it's kinda like a drug...
01:10 ben_vulpes no need, real chocolate is prohibitively expensive for more folks than cocaine
01:11 ben_vulpes portion sizes shrinking daily, new ersatz showing up on shelves daily, styled as healthy and pandering to lord only knows what delusions
01:11 ben_vulpes you know what's surprisingly legal? marketing something as chocolate with no milk in it
01:12 trinque give 'em legal weed and they'll eat anything
01:12 revnja i live in a legal state -- confirmed
01:12 mircea_popescu now this is a point
01:13 mircea_popescu best thing for all the sysco outlets out there, legal pot.
01:13 trinque ^
01:13 mircea_popescu heck, if they had any sense they'd offer it free in the waiting areas.
01:14 mircea_popescu "what do you mean you're not hungry, and even if you were you wouldn't eat the shit we peddle ?!? here, have a bowl!"
01:16 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes ftr most chocolate i eat has no milk in it. amargo, it's a thing.
01:19 ben_vulpes all cocoa solids or what all is in it
01:23 mircea_popescu basically you use cocoa butter instead of milk fat for emulsification
01:26 mircea_popescu anyway, hershey, nestle and the rest of the scum have been lobbying to be permitted to replace the milk fat with margerine for what, decades now.
01:29 ben_vulpes no lobbying necessary it turns out, just make 'chocolate' for vegans, call it 'chocolate' and them 'vegans' instead of 'poor and deluded'
01:31 deedbot http://trilema.com/2018/in-which-naranjo-is-a-place-and-other-things/ << Trilema - In which Naranjo is a place and other things
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03:17 lobbes !!deed http://lobbesblog.com/billing/2017/q4/danielpbarron.txt
03:17 deedbot accepted: 1
03:17 lobbes !!deed http://lobbesblog.com/billing/2017/q4/diana_coman.txt
03:18 deedbot accepted: 1
03:18 lobbes !!deed http://lobbesblog.com/billing/2017/q4/hanbot.txt
03:18 deedbot accepted: 1
03:18 lobbes !!deed http://lobbesblog.com/billing/2017/q4/mircea_popescu.txt
03:18 deedbot accepted: 1
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04:20 diana_coman my invoice seems to be for 1 according to deedbot instead of the correct 7660ecu i.e. 0.00000766; lobbes can you check that?
04:22 diana_coman oh, lobbes never mind, it didn't yet get through it seems and I was seeing a stale invoice instead, will wait
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04:43 diana_coman http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-02#1762161 <- ugh, I'd never have described ro as streamlined; I get what you mean though and at least the holidays certainly froze everything over there
04:43 a111 Logged on 2018-01-02 02:15 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-01#1762131 << ro is very streamlined, from memory specialist accountat/lawyer will get everything together in about a week ; in the us the ~same service (well not really, but anyway) is available online even, takes maybe a coupla weeks till the secretary of state of X (delaware amirite) "signs" the whatevers. im guessing if he finally got everything packaged with local accountant mid dec that ea
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10:09 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-02#1762265 << troo chocolate contains 0 milk
10:09 a111 Logged on 2018-01-02 06:11 ben_vulpes: you know what's surprisingly legal? marketing something as chocolate with no milk in it
10:21 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-02#1762276 << already iirc happened. but nobody with any options ate americhocolate before, and nobody now.
10:21 a111 Logged on 2018-01-02 06:26 mircea_popescu: anyway, hershey, nestle and the rest of the scum have been lobbying to be permitted to replace the milk fat with margerine for what, decades now.
10:22 asciilifeform in other heathen lulz, http://archive.is/QmV5G >> 'there is presently an embargoed security bug impacting apparently all contemporary CPU architectures that implement virtual memory, requiring hardware changes to fully resolve'
10:23 asciilifeform ( massive multilayered disinfo shitsandwich , for expert entomologists strictly. )
10:23 asciilifeform !#s tv raft
10:23 a111 12 results for "tv raft", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=tv%20raft
10:24 asciilifeform linked strictly for the responsibledisclosurism cancer implicit in any such embargo.
10:27 mircea_popescu heh
10:28 asciilifeform it isn't even clear to me how linus -- supposing that he participates in the coverups -- differs from e.g. florian weimer et al
10:28 asciilifeform selective disclosure of 0days to benefit empire -- same as any other wetwork for empire
10:32 mircea_popescu generally, it's powered by "eu sunt mic nu stiu nimic" ie selective disavowal of existence, identity and a notion of self in the cucks.
10:32 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> rly/mid jan it should be coming out the other end, seals & decorations applied. << This is a comfort
10:32 mircea_popescu which, for the record, is the fundamental feminine device, so much so as to mark a psyche for femaleness in the exact manner cunts mark a body for femaleness
10:32 asciilifeform http://archive.is/kAJen << positive confirmation of linus involvement
10:32 mircea_popescu it is after all both the normal and the intended survival device for historical women
10:33 mircea_popescu and also why the pretense that rape "hurts" the woman somehow ~entirely rests on the pretense that the linus behaviour "doesn't exist", which is part and parcel of empire trying to hijack it for its own ends.
10:33 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: << 'eu sunt mic, nu stiu nimic' << ~= 'моя хата с краю ничего не знаю' ?
10:33 asciilifeform ( in meaning, not word for word )
10:33 mircea_popescu ie, if "eu sunt mic nu stiu nimic" ISNT specifically female and in general a mark of inferiority, but rather "unspeakable" and therefore universal, well heck, vote hillary!
10:34 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> well no, he still has what's left of a pile of cash << The pile is sufficient for just about everything except renting the rack.
10:36 mircea_popescu asciilifeform quite exactly
10:36 BingoBoingo * mircea_popescu is very fucking happy to see other people can apparently secrete these wonders, i was starting to suspect http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-31#1761935 issues. << It took substantial reading, and re-reading. For the definition of cash used in the standard... There is simply no way USD counts as cash
10:36 a111 Logged on 2017-12-31 17:28 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu loox almost like an earthling man in this one
10:37 asciilifeform 'With the page table splitting patches merged, it becomes necessary for the kernel to flush these caches every time the kernel begins executing, and every time user code resumes executing. For some workloads, the effective total loss of the TLB lead around every system call leads to highly visible slowdowns: @grsecurity measured a simple case where Linux “du -s” suffered a 50% slowdown on a
10:37 asciilifeform recent AMD CPU.'
10:37 asciilifeform ^ bonus lul
10:38 asciilifeform remember when caches were made 80+% of die space because 'makes things faster' ?
10:38 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> i thought nordstrom is for like, blond girls that play volleyball << Nordstrom is alt-walmart for babushkas that imagine themselves "rich"
10:39 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> best thing for all the sysco outlets out there, legal pot. << Other back on mind worry is that perhaps the legal pot thing is slowing down the population here
10:39 mircea_popescu anyway. the attempted de-speakabilization of the item previously discussed as "spread your legs and think of the empire" would pretty much be the ~only "cultural contribution" of the new wannabe angloempire over the old one.
10:45 BingoBoingo !~ticker --market all
10:45 jhvh1 BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 13681.37, vol: 10706.72692343 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 13651.0, vol: 34796.83280491 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 13770.6, vol: 2507.7245169 | Volume-weighted last average: 13664.0195882
10:47 BingoBoingo http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-02#1762316 << Perhaps in March after more crashing, S.NSA can fab a MIPs board not too uncompetitive with the "patched" AMD/Intelium
10:47 a111 Logged on 2018-01-02 15:37 asciilifeform: 'With the page table splitting patches merged, it becomes necessary for the kernel to flush these caches every time the kernel begins executing, and every time user code resumes executing. For some workloads, the effective total loss of the TLB lead around every system call leads to highly visible slowdowns: @grsecurity measured a simple case where Linux “du -s” suffered a 50% slowdown on a
10:47 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: out of what ?
10:47 mircea_popescu what are you the engineer for!
10:47 mircea_popescu come up with a way to use up stale bread.
10:47 BingoBoingo Out of more USD crashing!
10:48 asciilifeform i half suspect crapple already uses stalebread, lol
10:48 mircea_popescu heh
10:48 asciilifeform going by the way their iron worx
10:49 mircea_popescu asciilifeform anyway, "revelations" may well mean "current cpus do not support multi-process software"
10:49 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: this was hammer-in-face obvious after the ~original~ rowhammer demo
10:49 asciilifeform but , to borrow mircea_popescu's formulation, 'unspeakabled'
10:50 mircea_popescu but the similarities with http://btcbase.org/log/2015-09-18#1278730 ftr
10:50 a111 Logged on 2015-09-18 18:49 kakobrekla: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/19/business/volkswagen-is-ordered-to-recall-nearly-500000-vehicles-over-emissions-software.html?_r=0
10:50 mircea_popescu "install this new kernel to make your computer slower"
10:50 asciilifeform exactly same item
10:50 asciilifeform and massive gravy for e.g. usg hardware suppliers
10:50 asciilifeform 'good noose, they'll need 10x the boxes to serve same # of cloudzeks'
10:51 mircea_popescu funny bit being that i recall some "not serious" guy explaining this is exactly how empire will decay. empire was liek "oh, our conversation dun need to include that!"
10:51 mircea_popescu well... indeed. dun have to.
10:51 BingoBoingo Y entonces una chica de China has an application.
10:52 BingoBoingo Find fab that has 14-22 nm process, make simple multicore MIPS and a MUSL'd cuntoo for it
10:55 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: if you wanted to do this for real, vs. gabriel_laddelization, cost is roughly comparable to a moon flight.
10:55 asciilifeform (in turkeydollar.)
10:57 * BingoBoingo doubts ASICminer spent moonflight in 2013
10:57 mircea_popescu yes well you'll have to put in more than hashers.
10:58 asciilifeform ru, for instance, pointedly ~did~ gabriel_laddelize the elbrus.
10:59 asciilifeform ( see http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-01#1620477 & elsewhere )
10:59 a111 Logged on 2017-03-01 14:29 asciilifeform: actually this is a mega-snoar, looks like the makers used 100% western toolchain, even macrocells
11:01 BingoBoingo Well, can the 1980's or schoolbook toolchain be used, but for smaller fab process.
11:02 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: '1980s toolchain' was a room full of d00dz with black electrical tape.
11:02 BingoBoingo So it can be used
11:03 BingoBoingo Senor Vulpes y Senor Dushenski tienen ninos
11:03 asciilifeform if you have the requisite number of d00dz , the +ev strategy is to issue rifles and go and take by the sword.
11:03 asciilifeform not masking tape.
11:05 mircea_popescu this is a dubious point even if we leave aside its factuality.
11:05 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: how does that work ?
11:05 mircea_popescu "different skillsets" are needed for either approach, which is a polite way of saying that your doods have no ballsacs.
11:05 mircea_popescu they were blinded at birth by their despicable mothers.
11:05 asciilifeform the mega-discovery of the 2000s is that the folx with 0ballsack cannot be used ~for anything~
11:06 asciilifeform not for chip layout, not for floor sweeping.
11:06 asciilifeform not only not-for-soldiering.
11:06 mircea_popescu well yes, but in the meanwhile some "uses" are less evidently wasteful than others.
11:06 BingoBoingo Un poquito relatit... Many of the streets here are named after dates on the calendar. Routinely the dates mark military victories against the empires won by anywhere from a dozen to three dozen men and their assembled serfs
11:06 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo and which as a general rule were no kiond of victories.
11:06 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: dunno, they can just as readily plug embrasures as anybody
11:07 mircea_popescu eg, argentina celebrates the day of its defeat in the faulklands as "victory over whatever" day.
11:07 mircea_popescu i've no doubt soon the day the ocean ate their sub "manned by very competent idiots in our own estimation" will get similar treatment, "day of victory over the marine element"
11:07 mircea_popescu asciilifeform the products of modern woman can not plug anything, because "what if there's a better use of their priceless person later on"
11:08 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Ah, it is a mix. The Uruguayos did defeat the Brits to retake Montevideo. But against the second Brazilian emperor...
11:08 mircea_popescu practically speaking, washing the cunt off your eyes today means "getting rid of precious cuntled syndrome at some point before senescence"
11:09 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: no 'what-ifs', заградотряд with mg at their back
11:09 mircea_popescu used to be easier when all it took was water which could be applied at birth.
11:09 asciilifeform 'it takes a brave man to be a coward in red army' (tm)(r)
11:09 mircea_popescu but meanwhile the secretions got thicker and stickier.
11:09 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i have no doubt that red army is exactly what happened to the jews in warsaw.
11:09 asciilifeform at which end
11:09 mircea_popescu they -- more advanced on path to ustardianism than cossacks.
11:10 mircea_popescu so no jew army resulted, just pile of bodies.
11:10 mircea_popescu similarily if you went with machine guns into campus of your choice, the output will be pile of bodies, not red army.
11:10 mircea_popescu need a certain sort of rural for that to work, for the exact reason that "used to be easier when all it took was water which could be applied at birth."
11:11 mircea_popescu ie, no dumb cunt had the opportunity to tell rando mirvnik that "you baby are precious and bla bla bla".
11:11 asciilifeform mircea_popescu has a quite selective reading of the warsaw incident. 1000+ of the warsaw pile -- were german
11:11 mircea_popescu the заградотряд process doth not promise 0 losses among the guards ; merely ~manageable~ (as opposed to womanageable) losses.
11:12 mircea_popescu even milling will wear down the knives a little.
11:12 BingoBoingo Very lulzy are the Lopez regimes in nearby Paraguay
11:12 asciilifeform ( and most of the remainder -- the old, the female, the diseased, the zeks who did 0 soldiering, attempted or otherwise )
11:12 mircea_popescu eh. it was a complete country, what.
11:12 asciilifeform warsaw ghetto?!
11:12 mircea_popescu not like all the men were away threshing in lusitania.
11:12 mircea_popescu yes.
11:13 asciilifeform it was a remainder from the j00z not yet nailed elsewhere
11:13 mircea_popescu that's too meta for this conversation.
11:13 asciilifeform that's the key, them folx were never 'complete country'
11:13 mircea_popescu you confuse country and state.
11:13 mircea_popescu the jews weren't a state ; but very much country.
11:14 mircea_popescu much like the aztecs were a complete country when the spanish state showed up.
11:14 asciilifeform evidently not complete
11:14 mircea_popescu that's not how that works.
11:14 asciilifeform just as mouse without white cells ain't complete mouse.
11:14 mircea_popescu you being lazy doesn't mean "evidently i'm not complete body"
11:15 asciilifeform if so lazy that won't bother to 'dip them' -- then yes, not complete
11:15 mircea_popescu not true.
11:15 mircea_popescu this is tulpa talk, no more,.
11:15 asciilifeform i had nfi this was controversial. folx 'so lazy' that won't feed selves -- end up today typically in nuthouse
11:16 mircea_popescu physiology is no criteria upon anatomy. that your arm "dun work" especially in the "as well as neighbour's" flavour is very strictly no proof of "broken arm".
11:16 mircea_popescu it works if you work it, now gert to work.
11:16 asciilifeform and what's the formula for who -- in nuthouse, and who -- not ? 'subclinical' vs 'clinical' neh
11:16 mircea_popescu asciilifeform what mom does with them is of no interest./
11:16 mircea_popescu men too lazy to feed self are still complete, and still SHOULD feed self.
11:16 asciilifeform what in mircea_popescu's pov ~is~ 'lazy'
11:16 asciilifeform what's it made of ?
11:17 mircea_popescu that your arm "dun work" especially in the "as well as neighbour's" flavour <
11:17 asciilifeform ( can a horse be lazy ? mule ? )
11:17 mircea_popescu whenever you are outperformed, you were lazy.
11:17 mircea_popescu this is definitional.
11:17 mircea_popescu the slowest horse in a pack of horses is the laziest horse in the pack of horses.
11:17 mircea_popescu you know what a lazy eye is ? same exact fucking principle -- moves slower than its brother, =lazy.
11:18 asciilifeform if you apply this insight literally, you end up with 0 horses in yer cart, rather than an infinitely fast set
11:18 asciilifeform ( shoot the slowest one every morning... )
11:18 mircea_popescu watch me give a shit.
11:18 asciilifeform i suppose you can propell yer charior with farts of not-giving-a-shit then
11:18 asciilifeform *chariot
11:18 mircea_popescu "oh, what'll the teacher do, if he flunks all of us he can't be a teacher anymore, he needs us"
11:18 mircea_popescu dude... what is this, jr high ?
11:19 asciilifeform it happened tho. teacher -- took his chalkboard and went home, to drink
11:19 mircea_popescu if only.
11:19 asciilifeform just didn't turn out to be the valhalla the f-students imagined.
11:19 asciilifeform because in his place, new 'teacher'.
11:20 mircea_popescu well, either that or married what's her name and had portmanteau kiddos with her.
11:20 mircea_popescu (latter brin's children are called "wojin", if you can imagine that.)
11:21 asciilifeform waiwaaat
11:21 mircea_popescu you recall brin the elder ?
11:21 mircea_popescu he had a son.
11:21 asciilifeform aha
11:21 mircea_popescu this son married.
11:21 mircea_popescu they had children.
11:21 mircea_popescu the children were not named so and so brin ; but so and so wojin.
11:21 asciilifeform ahahahahaha
11:21 * asciilifeform slept through this
11:22 asciilifeform this is hilarious
11:22 asciilifeform can you picture rockefeller kid named whateverjin ?
11:22 mircea_popescu daca doriti sa revedeti : http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-31#1761912
11:22 a111 Logged on 2017-12-31 17:18 mircea_popescu: the woj chickies ? kinda remind me of http://trilema.com/2012/test-de-curvidentificare-vizuala/
11:22 mircea_popescu asciilifeform the TRULY AMUSING part being that those, also russian immigrants!
11:23 asciilifeform sadoveanu?!
11:26 mircea_popescu hm ?
11:26 asciilifeform which 'those'
11:26 asciilifeform i dunget
11:27 mircea_popescu o wait, rockefeller were protestants not jews huh
11:27 mircea_popescu nm
11:28 mircea_popescu j p rockefeller, rhineland miner, the german rather than the russian parentage of "american"
11:29 asciilifeform aha
11:29 asciilifeform the backbone of the americans
11:29 mircea_popescu notice that the hitler-stalin pact actually made a lot more sense historically than the two nuts realised.
11:29 asciilifeform ( per mircea_popescu's old piece, 'the men who ought to have been crewing german freighters, were instead in philadelphia, unloading american ones' or how did it go )
11:30 mircea_popescu "it worked well in north america..."
11:30 mircea_popescu asciilifeform just about.
11:32 mircea_popescu so now to answer the orig. question : this miner from the french german lands was no particular religious fellow. his wife however -- was.
11:32 mircea_popescu so, yes. i can very much picture rockefeller kids named whateverjin, but in the sense meaningful cca 1817 rather than in the 2017 sense.
11:32 mircea_popescu in point of fact -- they were.
11:33 mircea_popescu cuckoldry in the americas has not perceptibly changed, i suspect it's driven by the very land. same exact item as before euros showed up, really.
11:37 asciilifeform where on planet3 is the wholesome, noncuckoldating land ?
11:38 asciilifeform buried under ice in antarctica ?
11:39 mircea_popescu consider one point -- russians, romanians, germans all went "la america" in the 1800s. the russians and germans -- stayed. the romanians -- returned.
11:40 mircea_popescu i will readily grant that the "russians" ~only stayed because actually, they were jews.
11:40 asciilifeform i have nfi why returned
11:40 asciilifeform and why stayed
11:40 mircea_popescu the sad counter to thyis is to observe that the actual russians -- too dumb to even go.
11:40 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i'm proposing a heuristic here, no moar.
11:42 mircea_popescu the ~other~ available heuristic, likely weaker but reaching further into the past, is to observe that the moor ~strangles~ desdemona, doesn't raise her princess little venetian-aspirant daugthers.
11:42 asciilifeform the traditional picture is that folx went for land. and it ain't as if you can bring it back to old europistan.
11:43 asciilifeform gold , yes, can bring ( tho witness what happened when spain brought. ) land - nope
11:43 mircea_popescu but does land come with women ? is this a construct, landwomen, upon which to find a place for yourself ? or does land come without anything or anymore, and is woman another sort of cow for you to work upon it ?
11:44 asciilifeform i'ma guess that in mircea_popescu cosmography , well-oiled, early rome was sabine-powered; later - 'cow'-powered ?
11:44 mircea_popescu because that's the fundamental difference across the northern ocean -- left, landwoman, right, cowoman.
11:45 mircea_popescu asciilifeform the greek world was mostly "land, cowoman separate". the early roman world similarily, but consider : the roman law knew two (principal, we'll omit the half dozen or so special, patrician only, priesthood styles) kinds of marriage :
11:45 mircea_popescu in the hand, and out of the hand.
11:46 asciilifeform aha i recall this
11:46 mircea_popescu marrying into the hand of the husband signified that the woman became his property, like any other slave (with some exceptions, such as can't be given in lieu of the damage like common slave), and was achieved through continuous cohabitation (one year with no break longer than two days)
11:46 mircea_popescu out of the hand signified that the woman remained (no dude, no fucking free agent women, wtf is this) the property of her father.
11:47 mircea_popescu there were some special rituals for this.
11:47 mircea_popescu now, which was prevalent in antiquity and decayed over time, and which grew over time and was prevalent by the late republic ?
11:47 asciilifeform not mega-prize puzzle, is it
11:48 mircea_popescu so then. as the demographic pressure increases, the conceptualization (the MALE conceptualization, as the only kind there is) of the environment switches from land, cowoman separate to landwoman.
11:48 mircea_popescu the latter is also known as "how cucks see the world"
11:49 mircea_popescu consider this major point : in ancient greece, people were depicted with small penii ; large ones were considered bestial, comedic and insulting.
11:49 mircea_popescu today -- opposite.
11:50 mircea_popescu do you see the logic of "well -- if landwoman better perform, lest it finds a better performer ?", aka trilema's "wtf, ~I~ should work to entertain the slaves ?!"
11:52 mircea_popescu and let's breadcrumb http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-20#1571682 as it's quite apropos.
11:52 a111 Logged on 2016-11-20 23:49 mircea_popescu: all through this seeking my approval in the sense of trying to verify if im all that impressed. i... wasn't fucking impressed, because why the fuck would i be impressed with the male nurse.
11:52 asciilifeform the related observation is re classical slavery in every possible sense milder fate than wage-slavery, for same reason
11:52 asciilifeform the real joke on the equalistas -- they created auschwitz.
11:53 mircea_popescu well, the arrangement is psychoting in many numerous ways, what the hell, forcing any given female into "venus genetrix" matrix is going to hurt.
11:53 mircea_popescu this isn't a discussion about how "delilah cut some hair and sold it at the market becoming rich and happy". the fact of the matter is, they fucked each other over, and irrecoverably.
11:54 mircea_popescu sorta like the conversation in submarine, "why did you put grenade pin ?" "it was there to pull!" "but now we're all going to die" "sorry"
11:58 asciilifeform !#s spring ratchet
11:58 a111 1 result for "spring ratchet", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=spring%20ratchet
11:59 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-17#1685518 << but originally on trilema and can't seem to excavate the concrete item
11:59 a111 Logged on 2017-07-17 19:23 asciilifeform: but mircea_popescu himself had observation where 'not the fault of the spring, for being springy, if the ratchet broke'
11:59 mircea_popescu word.
12:00 mircea_popescu it's actually like a half dozen articles, including one with a screencap from "les veinards", girault screaming "TU L'AURAS VOULU!!!!!111" at clech
12:02 mircea_popescu (and it behooves me to point out that the antique arrangement is transparently evident in the domestic affairs of the french, (and slightly, somewhat, the italians) as late as the 60s.)
12:03 mircea_popescu (the matter is often specifically lampshaded -- yes the lady owns the land, but watch de funes interact with her in, say, hibernatus. yes the accountant is there for HER to sign the expense sheets, but "ou, selon vous, est votre grand pere!!!11")
12:12 asciilifeform in lulz re earlier x86 thread, https://lkml.org/lkml/2017/12/27/2
12:12 * asciilifeform has nfi whether claim is factual
12:18 asciilifeform re 'rowhammer', for some reason when i first found out about it, the immediate picture was ye olde legend re how zeks supposedly at least once overturned a train, from the inside, in a stolypin car , 'let's all heave-left' then 'right' etc
12:18 asciilifeform it isn't a physical impossibility, petrol trucks have overturned from 'slosh' effect
12:18 asciilifeform and ditto sailing ships in 18th c
12:19 mircea_popescu very much physical impossibility.
12:19 mircea_popescu petrol trucks have whiplash, mansacks do not.
12:19 asciilifeform and romans broke cadence on a bridge, why exactly
12:20 mircea_popescu if you study the dynamic equilibrium of liquid you notice first off that most kinetic energy is transferred to wobbly vessel at the peak ends not at the center of movement, and by the fringe liquid not the central mass
12:20 mircea_popescu clip those, you lose disproportionately in the effect.
12:20 mircea_popescu asciilifeform that bridge was marginal ; train car is not marginal.
12:20 asciilifeform would depend on the car, neh
12:20 asciilifeform if it's already resonant -- can pump
12:20 asciilifeform like child's swing.
12:20 mircea_popescu no, because if train car was as marginal as bridge, you couldn't drive it with fucking grain.
12:21 asciilifeform consider the infamous 'galloping gertie'
12:21 mircea_popescu ie, one comes "not from a good life" unlike the other, so higher de facto standard baked in
12:21 asciilifeform train car is built to resist noncoherent bumps. not idjits pumping its resonance.
12:21 asciilifeform ( and it is build nonresonant at the rail sleeper 'freq'. not arbitrary. )
12:22 asciilifeform *built
12:22 mircea_popescu nah. train car that doesn't have major safety factor over resonance is taken out within first 10 miles.
12:22 mircea_popescu bridge that doesnt -- can sit undisturbed for century.
12:22 asciilifeform train that doesn't -- can also work undisturbed for century
12:22 mircea_popescu moreover, resonance is not exactly the problem here. whiplash, slightly different item
12:22 asciilifeform whiplash problem in petrol truck yea
12:23 asciilifeform in train, story went -- pumping.
12:23 * mircea_popescu does not believe.
12:23 asciilifeform i dun fully buy it, but unlike mircea_popescu would not categorically rule out.
12:23 asciilifeform orc tech does 'wonders'.
12:23 mircea_popescu i suppose they could have had a shitty curve for instance, train went off track half the time anyway, zek thought "button -- connected!"
12:24 asciilifeform for completeness i'll mention the denoument:
12:24 asciilifeform joke was on the zeks
12:24 asciilifeform in classical (stalin) su, the iron law was 'prison transport may not be opened outside of prison or courthouse grounds, for ANY reason'
12:24 asciilifeform not even if on fire and off the rails etc.
12:24 mircea_popescu so they left them i nthere
12:24 asciilifeform aha.
12:25 asciilifeform so goes the story.
12:25 mircea_popescu seems reasonable. "Dear zek, do your part in building of this great state as we define it".
12:25 mircea_popescu pretty republican outlook.
12:25 asciilifeform aha.
12:25 asciilifeform hence reprinted here.
12:26 asciilifeform ( much has been written re other aspects, re 'no work, no eat' labour quotas in zekland etc. so i won't repeat. )
12:30 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-02#1762517 << this is too juicy to leave alone : you can actually rederive it from the child's experiment where you put a pingpong ball through the ceiling
12:30 a111 Logged on 2018-01-02 17:20 mircea_popescu: if you study the dynamic equilibrium of liquid you notice first off that most kinetic energy is transferred to wobbly vessel at the peak ends not at the center of movement, and by the fringe liquid not the central mass
12:30 asciilifeform ( didja ever do that one ? )
12:30 mircea_popescu nope.
12:30 mircea_popescu "in my country celing already had enough holes"
12:30 asciilifeform great experiment in gym
12:30 asciilifeform you find 3-4 types of ball
12:31 asciilifeform arrange large to small, bottom to top, and drop ( this is the tricky bit )
12:31 asciilifeform momentum transfers...
12:31 mircea_popescu aha.
12:31 asciilifeform can embed in wooden ceiling quite easily.
12:31 * mircea_popescu spent a while in junior high getting girls to spin legs extended and then pull them in. "o noes!111"
12:32 asciilifeform lol
12:32 asciilifeform that was actually part of 'official' curriculum at asciilifeform's school
12:32 mircea_popescu in retrospect the whole fucking point of the "game" is evidently "take girl outside of her own safety margins as she herself imagines them" ie fundamental maturation step.
12:32 mircea_popescu but at the time it was just fun.
12:32 asciilifeform then again we had a 25 y.o. physics d00d . and i'd bet he was eventually sacked
12:33 asciilifeform he had various demos that would show gurlz were bottom-heavy
12:33 mircea_popescu lol
12:34 asciilifeform at any rate, the 'bulk of the liquid' ~= 'largest ball'
12:34 mircea_popescu ~only 25yo male we had in the crew was ro lit dork, who refused to explain what "oftica" (= tuberculosis, but in ro folklore "disease of unfulfilled love") meant, and when pressed "you'll see in the army".
12:34 asciilifeform lol in english world was called 'pining away'
12:35 mircea_popescu right.
12:35 asciilifeform concretely in application to http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-29#1760742
12:35 a111 Logged on 2017-12-29 16:01 asciilifeform: but moar like victorian typhoidal 'nedeflorena' or who was it
12:35 mircea_popescu 50yo women much better at the... roman, shall we call it, approach to education.
12:37 mircea_popescu especially the tiny dop of a woman that took over when he was sacked (ie, next year), and who "ce pizda ma-sii!!!1" then noticing completely frozen/silent bunch of 13yo went "what, you never heard that before ?!"
12:38 asciilifeform чо пиздите lol
12:39 mircea_popescu lol
12:47 deedbot http://trilema.com/2018/tamara-drewe/ << Trilema - Tamara Drewe
12:47 mircea_popescu but talking of whiplash, https://media.8ch.net/file_store/0f9c7cae8d4b5c5891288651deadb8e0fc08abaecc5c92365fdda00b03b5c572.gif
~ 31 minutes ~
13:18 mircea_popescu anyway, to revisit the upstack problem : the solution to rowhammer, 3.0 as 1.0, is not to "make kernel flush all the time, 50% performance penalty" nor the original "solutions" nor any of that crap.
13:19 mircea_popescu the correct solution is http://trilema.com/2016/please-stop-using-dns-already-and-other-considerations/ and so on, ie -- no multiuser box. yank "ssh", yank the rest of the empire-on-your-box crapola and ignore the "problem" that dun exist.
13:19 mircea_popescu what THEY are trying to solve, "how to perpetuate empire-on-your-box???" is not a problem that needs any solving.
13:20 asciilifeform and if you must build a public toilet ( i.e. box where allcomers get to affect the memory addressing sequence ) build it from sram.
13:20 * mircea_popescu thoroughly ignored "cloud" since the day it was invented. the fact that they failed to address this for a decade does not somehow enact a special sovereignity for them, and make cloud a thing. it is still not a thing, as it NEVER FUCKING WAS. hurr.
13:21 mircea_popescu and in fucking general -- idiot's failure to register with the republic "for a really long time" doth not somehow enact idiot into anything else, what the everloving fuck.
13:21 asciilifeform item aint strictly about 'clouds' tho, quite broad, includes errything from www browsers with scripting, to , potentially, trb's commandprocessor
13:21 mircea_popescu what next, "african proverb", what is this, the pantsuited hilarity radio show ?
13:21 mircea_popescu asciilifeform yes ; just picked a point at the core of the cloud of idiocy.
13:22 asciilifeform i.e. anywhere that an allcomer gets to make the thing branch, or affect an array index
13:22 mircea_popescu absolutely was not proposed that imperial idiocy is now "limited to cloud". no, imperial idiocy is imperial idiocy.
13:23 asciilifeform that particular idiocy isn't even new , existed more or less as-is in 1970s ('timesharing')
13:23 mircea_popescu nah, 1970s timesharing is an outgrowth of "zeks are not persons", was fine.
13:23 asciilifeform the use of dram where you can stolypin it off the rails -- new
13:23 asciilifeform but general presense, not
13:23 asciilifeform *pretense
13:23 mircea_popescu not tenable today because "zek + cellphone" is more like "nsa contractor" than zek
13:25 asciilifeform btw worth revisiting http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-24#1702815 in re why cache-timingleak cannot actually be fixed on dram
13:25 a111 Logged on 2017-08-24 14:41 asciilifeform: ( why to do this ? just as in other cases of 'i can't believe it's not X!', dram is not actually random-access -- all currently sold drams only achieve their rated speed in 'burst mode'; and from that it follows that they are only ever read to fill a cache line; and from this, trivial timing leak etc. and the joys of 'rowhammer', bonus. )
13:25 asciilifeform i.e. the 'R' is a lie
13:26 asciilifeform it ain't a randomaccess device. any moar then cassette.
13:27 asciilifeform *than
13:28 mircea_popescu in entirely unrelated news, here's a simple idea on how to leverage computing power to generate "game" content : create a hexagon filled with hexagonal cells ; cut an arbitrary number of partitions to it, present the pieces to human to "solve" the problem.
13:28 mircea_popescu combinatoric explosion -- always on your side. that's fucking how.
13:29 asciilifeform iirc 'panzer general' looked like this
13:29 asciilifeform and buncha others of the period
13:29 mircea_popescu yeah, hex grid was a "strategy" thing for a while
13:29 asciilifeform originally from tabletop
13:30 mircea_popescu funny, nobody to my knowledge leveraged multi-cell plane fills.
13:30 mircea_popescu "if you go into octagon you get X, but in square you get Y".
13:30 mircea_popescu because, i guess, socialist poison, "in all things we do must be one thing where all things are equal!"
13:31 * asciilifeform pictures a hextetris
13:31 mircea_popescu that was done
13:31 asciilifeform yea gotta be
13:31 mircea_popescu back in dos days was even pentix, if you recall, and then that arbitrary tetris generator in space, you saw it ?
13:31 mircea_popescu where you could actually define your piece sets.
13:33 asciilifeform possibly
13:34 asciilifeform 4 was really the golden # , pentix pieces have trouble 'sliding past'
13:34 asciilifeform same thing with hexatiled pieces
13:34 mircea_popescu BLOCKOUT! holy shit
13:35 mircea_popescu god the time i spent with that thing...
13:35 mircea_popescu http://www.freegameempire.com/Img/Cache/Games/Blockout/Screenshot-2.png < item
13:35 mircea_popescu imo still very much playable today, at that.
13:35 asciilifeform aa i played a clone, 'welltris' iirc
13:36 mircea_popescu not sure which is the clone ; but emulated today.
13:36 asciilifeform or hm, not same
13:36 asciilifeform i think 'blockout' also.
13:36 asciilifeform somebody even had a '4d' tetris.
13:37 mircea_popescu not so useful for humans, that, is it
13:40 asciilifeform moar of a 'because we could' than actually-playable, aha
13:40 mircea_popescu well, moar of a "if you can't use time band for signalling you're stuck with a stitched together in-band signalling monstrosity"
13:44 asciilifeform upstack re dram , in particularly in its role as 'cheap simulacrum chocolate made of liquishit' item -- in august asciilifeform exhaustively researched available sram, and found that most of it ALSO does not get anywhere near rated speed except in sequential burst !
13:45 mircea_popescu heh
13:45 asciilifeform and when you impose the condition that it MUST -- you end up with...
13:45 mircea_popescu shit's hard, what.
13:45 asciilifeform ... same parts as were sold in 1996.
13:45 asciilifeform literally, same items we put in those 486 mobos with user-inserted cache.
13:46 asciilifeform 'hard' is not the word. item could be trivially made in existing 14nm or whatnot
13:46 asciilifeform with current-day densities
13:46 asciilifeform but it ain't. because 'dun help c-machine any'
13:46 mircea_popescu the sram you mean ?
13:47 asciilifeform aha.
13:47 asciilifeform sane, i.e. random-access , sram.
13:47 asciilifeform no burst nonsense.
13:47 mircea_popescu i guess.
13:49 asciilifeform and in the narrowed set, found that : you can get 7-10ns sram at something like human cost. below : goes up exponentially
13:50 asciilifeform ( and, on top of this, most of the offerings at 'high' end turn out to be 'pseudostatic' , i.e. internally has dram + refresher )
~ 2 hours 13 minutes ~
16:03 mircea_popescu !!key nolan_bugg
16:03 deedbot http://wot.deedbot.org/AA3FE7C6CB533021FA996DB2272806F8D52F0793.asc
~ 2 hours 55 minutes ~
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19:08 ben_vulpes that was fast
19:08 mircea_popescu diff names
19:08 ben_vulpes ah
19:08 ben_vulpes in other dipshitteries: https://medium.com/@enkiv2/trajectories-for-the-future-of-software-34f06b8c8fc7
19:08 mircea_popescu did anyone ever write something not-idiotic on that medium idiocy ?
19:08 ben_vulpes look at wannabe-hacker-oriented linux distros like Arch and Gentoo, which refuse to supply an installer and instead require users to retype the source code of an installer script from the manual
19:09 ben_vulpes dude's a wannabe alan kay, writing on a smaller shittier blogspot which is about to implode due to implementing the "three free articles per month" idiocy
19:09 ben_vulpes time for that died ~2014
19:09 mircea_popescu ie, "something we lifted from 2010 trilema and forgot to SAY SO"
19:10 mircea_popescu ah the good ole days of http://trilema.com/2011/hello-nyt-goodbye-nyt/
19:17 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-03#1762658 << i dunget what this was actually about
19:17 a111 Logged on 2018-01-03 00:08 ben_vulpes: in other dipshitteries: https://medium.com/@enkiv2/trajectories-for-the-future-of-software-34f06b8c8fc7
19:17 asciilifeform kept waiting for something concrete -- never came
19:19 mircea_popescu medium-concrete.
19:22 BingoBoingo !~ticker --market all
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19:23 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Medium can't concrete porque not latino
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19:39 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: may have some fun savaging this one https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/01/brotopia-silicon-valley-secretive-orgiastic-inner-sanctum
19:39 mircea_popescu nah, it's ok, i'm playing blockout.
19:40 ben_vulpes sounds vastly more entertaining than pantsuit whinging
19:45 mircea_popescu possibly because it is.
~ 3 hours 52 minutes ~
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